Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
Michele, I usually just open the first child's source window, copy the citation to the clipboard, open the second child's source window, and copy the citation from the clipboard. I tend to work more like Jenny does, though I will keep the ability to process a bounty of 5 sources of information for one person or event simultaneously in mind. ;) --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: Michele/Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 9:33 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 I usually use this as I am cleaning up my file and I noticed that I forgot to source something (like I sourced one child but forgot the other). You can fix the sources quicker if you can paste the multiple sources at one time. Michele Technical Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com snip Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
Many of us are working with individuals for whom there are no censi, unless you count the Domesday Book, which is problematic because of several generations of aristocracy having the same name and living at the same time. If you don't work with mediaeval ancestors and with the historians whose lifework is researching the transfer of estates, the only reliable way to discern ancestry in instances too numerous to mention, you have no idea. Online databases, with several erudite exceptions, are a bunch of -, their sources being other totally false databases, too many of which are from the LDS, which does not verify sources of their databases. Too many of the databases that ancestry,com uses are no more than compilations of internet databases, meaning they are also totally inreliable. Their latest addition, the Wills from the Prerogative Court of Canterbury ALL have the wrong probate dates, easily determined because they have probate dates that are before the person even died! They don't use double-dating; their transcribers cannot even transcribe correctly when the documents are legible, and ancestry.com doesn't care, so they are NEVER a source. If you do not use the Testamenta Eboracensia, Testamenta Leodiensia, Testamenta Vetusta, Calendar of Close Rolls, Calendar of Fine Rolls, Inquisitions Miscellaneous, Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem, Calendar of Papal Registers, Calendarium Rotulorum Patentium, and other primary sources; if you do not use the epitome of secondary sources, The Complete Peerage, and follow the corrections that are continually being made to it, you may have no need whatsoever to ever enter more than one source at a time. Fine. But for those of us who have traced our ancestors back, we research thoroughly, and when we find these undisputed sources in agreement, want to enter them. It has been far too long that we have had to enter 5 or more sources INDIVIDUALLY for each event. If you never have a need to do so, you have no obligation to do so. But please, realize that many of us have been IMMENSELY inconvenienced during the time the multiple source clipboard was eliminated. To source one individual has taken often 6+ hours during its absence. There are probably many options you do not use. One of the great things about Legacy has always been that it has many options you may not need, but that others do. This is one of them. CE From: genea...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:56:07 +0800 CE Thanks for the list. I'll pass it on to a friend who is back to Medieval times. I agree that sometimes secondary sources are all you have and you have to rely on the scholarly work of others. Various medieval scholars agreeing strengthens the argument. Quite different from a number of Ancestry trees agreeing and one being different. I'd give serious consideration to the different one in that case unless the others referred to a primary source. But I still don't get how I'd use multiple clipboards. The way I work, I'd explore one source at a time. I know enough from discussing things with my friend, that sources like these often don't agree and even some that do don't make sense when the dates are looked at closely. When I started a branch of my family I had a number of family trees from family members in that branch. It was only by entering them one at a time that I became aware of the differences between them and was able to even ask the relevant questions to find the most reliable and seek primary sources. I recall I fleetingly thought of using the multiple clipboards but soon realised it would be far more time consuming for me to do that. I think that was when I learnt that they all attach together. I'm glad it works for you. Different methods do work for different people because we think differently. Regards, Cathy At 12:06 PM 13/01/2014, you wrote: Obviously you do not yet have mediaeval ancestors in your file, for whom original documents are mostly non-existent, confused by persons with the same names and title living at the same time, and for whom only RELIABLE secondary sources are possible. For these MANY people, having several of these RELIABLE secondary sources agree on the facts is essential to surety that the fact is correct, ie: Altschul, Michael, A Baronial Family in Medieval England: The Clares, 1217-1314. Baltimore: John Hopkins Press, 1965. Dana Library (Rutgers Newark) CS439.C6285. A concurrence of such RELIABLE secondary sources os essential to have surety. It is essential to list them ALL. If you have only one source for an event, that is not a problem. But when, to verify events, you need have the concurrence of many RELIABLE sources, having to enter all of them each time is, often literally, a royal pain, and VERY time-consuming. Oh, yes, you need to make sure that you
RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
Do calm down CE I said I was glad it worked for you. I've been learning about the medieval sources because of my friend's work. I do understand they are different and the need to rely on scholars who can study the difficult data available. I still wouldn't enter more than one persons findings at a time. BUT if it works for you - that's terrific. Cathy At 04:36 PM 13/01/2014, you wrote: Many of us are working with individuals for whom there are no censi, unless you count the Domesday Book, which is problematic because of several generations of aristocracy having the same name and living at the same time. If you don't work with mediaeval ancestors and with the historians whose lifework is researching the transfer of estates, the only reliable way to discern ancestry in instances too numerous to mention, you have no idea. Online databases, with several erudite exceptions, are a bunch of -, their sources being other totally false databases, too many of which are from the LDS, which does not verify sources of their databases. Too many of the databases that ancestry,com uses are no more than compilations of internet databases, meaning they are also totally inreliable. Their latest addition, the Wills from the Prerogative Court of Canterbury ALL have the wrong probate dates, easily determined because they have probate dates that are before the person even died! They don't use double-dating; their transcribers cannot even transcribe correctly when the documents are legible, and ancestry.com doesn't care, so they are NEVER a source. If you do not use the Testamenta Eboracensia, Testamenta Leodiensia, Testamenta Vetusta, Calendar of Close Rolls, Calendar of Fine Rolls, Inquisitions Miscellaneous, Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem, Calendar of Papal Registers, Calendarium Rotulorum Patentium, and other primary sources; if you do not use the epitome of secondary sources, The Complete Peerage, and follow the corrections that are continually being made to it, you may have no need whatsoever to ever enter more than one source at a time. Fine. But for those of us who have traced our ancestors back, we research thoroughly, and when we find these undisputed sources in agreement, want to enter them. It has been far too long that we have had to enter 5 or more sources INDIVIDUALLY for each event. If you never have a need to do so, you have no obligation to do so. But please, realize that many of us have been IMMENSELY inconvenienced during the time the multiple source clipboard was eliminated. To source one individual has taken often 6+ hours during its absence. There are probably many options you do not use. One of the great things about Legacy has always been that it has many options you may not need, but that others do. This is one of them. CE From: genea...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:56:07 +0800 CE Thanks for the list. I'll pass it on to a friend who is back to Medieval times. I agree that sometimes secondary sources are all you have and you have to rely on the scholarly work of others. Various medieval scholars agreeing strengthens the argument. Quite different from a number of Ancestry trees agreeing and one being different. I'd give serious consideration to the different one in that case unless the others referred to a primary source. But I still don't get how I'd use multiple clipboards. The way I work, I'd explore one source at a time. I know enough from discussing things with my friend, that sources like these often don't agree and even some that do don't make sense when the dates are looked at closely. When I started a branch of my family I had a number of family trees from family members in that branch. It was only by entering them one at a time that I became aware of the differences between them and was able to even ask the relevant questions to find the most reliable and seek primary sources. I recall I fleetingly thought of using the multiple clipboards but soon realised it would be far more time consuming for me to do that. I think that was when I learnt that they all attach together. I'm glad it works for you. Different methods do work for different people because we think differently. Regards, Cathy At 12:06 PM 13/01/2014, you wrote: Obviously you do not yet have mediaeval ancestors in your file, for whom original documents are mostly non-existent, confused by persons with the same names and title living at the same time, and for whom only RELIABLE secondary sources are possible. For these MANY people, having several of these RELIABLE secondary sources agree on the facts is essential to surety that the fact is correct, ie: Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
On 13/01/2014 01:58, Michele/Support wrote: Here is an example. Let’s say you are going to use multiple census records as a source for something. You can put them all on the clipboard and paste them all at once. An example of that is using multiple censuses to show the relationship of the children to the parents or the marriage of the parents. If some people want to work that way, that's fine. But it would never work for me. I would never be finding all those Census records at the same time. Once I've found a particular Source, say the first Census, I would enter all the details from that to everyone to whom it applied. Then I might move on to another Source or look to find more people in the same Census. I would never find information, put it on the Clipboard and then not use it until I had amassed a lot more - which I might never be able to do. The nearest I do to storing a Source - if it's late at night, say, and I want to go to bed, or if I run out of time - is make a note of what I've found and I come back to it the next day and enter the information. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
Ron, You are correct that Legacy is responsive to the user base. Thank you Millennia. This topic is much like Lumpers vs Splitters or Apple vs PC discussions about the 'best' way to do things. It is apparent that there are two strong camps and this thread has helped me determine which method I prefer to use. That is what a User Group does. This might make an interesting blog article for Geoff. Larry Lee On Jan 13, 2014 4:09 AM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: I am not at all certain as to why this subject is being discussed ad infinitum. The fact is that when multiple sourcing was removed there were more complaints about this than anything else. A substantial number of the silent users arose unison to condemn the action. A perfect example of Legacy giving the users what they need. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
I usually use this as I am cleaning up my file and I noticed that I forgot to source something (like I sourced one child but forgot the other). You can fix the sources quicker if you can paste the multiple sources at one time. Michele Technical Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 5:28 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 On 13/01/2014 01:58, Michele/Support wrote: Here is an example. Let’s say you are going to use multiple census records as a source for something. You can put them all on the clipboard and paste them all at once. An example of that is using multiple censuses to show the relationship of the children to the parents or the marriage of the parents. If some people want to work that way, that's fine. But it would never work for me. I would never be finding all those Census records at the same time. Once I've found a particular Source, say the first Census, I would enter all the details from that to everyone to whom it applied. Then I might move on to another Source or look to find more people in the same Census. I would never find information, put it on the Clipboard and then not use it until I had amassed a lot more - which I might never be able to do. The nearest I do to storing a Source - if it's late at night, say, and I want to go to bed, or if I run out of time - is make a note of what I've found and I come back to it the next day and enter the information. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
Please note that I fully agree with going to the original source whenever possible. However, if you have 6 books, all published in, say 1884 +/- 3 years, how do you determine which if any WAS the original source? As in: Clara Aardvark married in 1804 Elias Batterbum; their daughter Inez married Clem Kadiddlehopper and their son Sanford married Paula Retry. This series is repeated in an Aardvark family history, in a family history done by Elias' mother's brother, in a Retry family history, and in one done by Clara's mother's uncle. Clearly these authors had equal access to word-of-mouth and probably knew all the parties named. So /which/ can you cite as the original? Easier to put all of 'em in as a source at least until you can find the documents that confirm/refute something. Cheryl Jackie King wrote: I understand how it works in theory - but since I find most of my multiple sources all actually cite the same source (say 18 books that cite the same original source), I find i use this very little since I prefer to go back to the original source - and hopefully later be able to obtain the documentation for myself. There may be times it is useful... I just haven't found it. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com mailto:ldlee...@gmail.com wrote: CE, I am glad to know there is someone who uses this option and I understand it theoretically but am having trouble understanding how this works in reality. Could you provide a simple example of how you have 5 or more sources at the same time for any given piece of information? I really am struggling to grasp this. Maybe it would be something I could use if I knew how. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com mailto:a...@gmail.com On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 4:42 PM, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com mailto:wood...@msn.com wrote: It is SO wonderful to have the multiple source option back! I have SCADS of times when I have found sources that document an event and have been SO frustrated at having to enter each source separately since Legacy removed the ability to apply multiple sources at the same time. Too many times, I have had to expend inordinate amounts of time and effort entering five (and even more) sources to an event for dozens of individuals! When you have multiple source that confirm an event, it is imperative to have the ability to enter all the sources at one time. Hours of effort and frustration saved. I am SO VERY glad Legacy has restored this much needed function! CE From: whbosw...@gmail.com mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:03:44 -0500 Thank you for explaining this because I was confused about applying five sources at once. I've never used this nor do I think I ever will. I do save some clipboard items then apply each of them as needed then delete them. This sounds like a feature that should have stayed gone. It sounds like an accident waiting to happen when someone inadvertently goes to apply what they think is one source then applies up to five. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:46 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 Hi Kathy, I've never had five sources that I wanted to apply all at the same time to the same items of data! But assuming you did, you'd want to go into Customise Sources and set 7.5 Clipboard capacity to Allow up to five sources at once on the Source Clipboard. Then when you open the Source Clipboard, you will see Source 1, Source 2, etc. Set up the first source, then click on Source 2 and set up the second one, and so on. When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your database. You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't pick and choose which one you'll use. Personally, I've not yet come across any situation where I'd find this useful - but I'm sure that day will come. When this option was removed a while back there were apparently many complaints, so it has been reinstated. If you don't want
RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
: Charles Skilton Ltd, 1977), 24, 84. 41. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge (European Family Trees: Family Trees for the History of European States, New Series) 3rd Series -16 Vols.. 4th Series - 8 Vols. (Marburg, Germany: J. A. Stargardt, 1903-1995), II #85, III #157. CE From: Larry Lee [mailto:ldlee...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 4:09 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 CE, I am glad to know there is someone who uses this option and I understand it theoretically but am having trouble understanding how this works in reality. Could you provide a simple example of how you have 5 or more sources at the same time for any given piece of information? I really am struggling to grasp this. Maybe it would be something I could use if I knew how. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
Hi Kathy, I've never had five sources that I wanted to apply all at the same time to the same items of data! But assuming you did, you'd want to go into Customise Sources and set 7.5 Clipboard capacity to Allow up to five sources at once on the Source Clipboard. Then when you open the Source Clipboard, you will see Source 1, Source 2, etc. Set up the first source, then click on Source 2 and set up the second one, and so on. When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your database. You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't pick and choose which one you'll use. Personally, I've not yet come across any situation where I'd find this useful - but I'm sure that day will come. When this option was removed a while back there were apparently many complaints, so it has been reinstated. If you don't want to see the five source tabs in the Source Clipboard, go to 7.5 Clipboard capacity and select Only allow one source on the Source Clipboard - that's the option I have selected for now, until such time as I find a need to apply more than one source at a time. Hope this helps. :-) Wendy Kathy Thompson said the following on 12/01/2014 8:45 p.m.: I've searched the help files, I can't see the answer. Can someone Please explain to me How to use the 5 different Source clipboards? I can't even work out how to get more than one source on there at this point. In that explanation, please tell me if all 5 clipboards get pasted at once, or if only the active on top clipboard gets pasted. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
Mike, Does the SearchFind allow one to use not equal to as the search criteria? If so, since the OP wishes all to be replaced wouldn't not equal to blank to it? (not on my PC) Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Kathy Thompson kmthoms...@gmail.com wrote: I've searched the help files, I can't see the answer. Can someone Please explain to me How to use the 5 different Source clipboards? I can't even work out how to get more than one source on there at this point. In that explanation, please tell me if all 5 clipboards get pasted at once, or if only the active on top clipboard gets pasted. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
Mike The last sentence of my previous post should read not equal to blank DO it Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Mike, Does the SearchFind allow one to use not equal to as the search criteria? If so, since the OP wishes all to be replaced wouldn't not equal to blank to it? (not on my PC) Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Kathy Thompson kmthoms...@gmail.com wrote: I've searched the help files, I can't see the answer. Can someone Please explain to me How to use the 5 different Source clipboards? I can't even work out how to get more than one source on there at this point. In that explanation, please tell me if all 5 clipboards get pasted at once, or if only the active on top clipboard gets pasted. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
The Source clipboard has slightly odd behaviour, For example select a citation and copy it to the clipboard, overwriting if necessary. Open the source clipboard (set up for 5 sources) and the first tab, Source 1, contains your citation. At the bottom of the clipboard there is a right facing arrow. Click it to move Source 1 into the Source 2 position. This moves the master source and the Detail Information but not the Text/Comments, which is a bit strange, however, it does load the Source 2 tab with a master source. This can be repeated until all 5 tabs are filled. What you do with them after that I do not know. A more useful option, in my opinion, is the Save and Name option at the bottom right of the source clipboard. You can ssve up to 10 citations with your own names. Having saved them then they can be used from the Assigned Sources screen by right clicking on the source clipboard icon, choose one of the list to load into the source clipboard (first position) and then the usual paste icon will paste that citation. David On 12/01/2014 08:46, Wendy Howard wrote: Hi Kathy, I've never had five sources that I wanted to apply all at the same time to the same items of data! But assuming you did, you'd want to go into Customise Sources and set 7.5 Clipboard capacity to Allow up to five sources at once on the Source Clipboard. Then when you open the Source Clipboard, you will see Source 1, Source 2, etc. Set up the first source, then click on Source 2 and set up the second one, and so on. When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your database. You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't pick and choose which one you'll use. Personally, I've not yet come across any situation where I'd find this useful - but I'm sure that day will come. When this option was removed a while back there were apparently many complaints, so it has been reinstated. If you don't want to see the five source tabs in the Source Clipboard, go to 7.5 Clipboard capacity and select Only allow one source on the Source Clipboard - that's the option I have selected for now, until such time as I find a need to apply more than one source at a time. Hope this helps. :-) Wendy Kathy Thompson said the following on 12/01/2014 8:45 p.m.: I've searched the help files, I can't see the answer. Can someone Please explain to me How to use the 5 different Source clipboards? I can't even work out how to get more than one source on there at this point. In that explanation, please tell me if all 5 clipboards get pasted at once, or if only the active on top clipboard gets pasted. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
On 12/01/2014 08:46, Wendy Howard wrote: When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your database. You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't pick and choose which one you'll use. Which is the only way this multi-clipboard feature would be of any use to me. Very often one is entering the details of a new-found family, including perhaps entries for BMDs from Indexes, and Census entries. The same Master Sources for every person, just differing in Detail. Being able to put several of these Sources on the Clipboard and then SELECTIVELY paste them would be a bit time saver, but pasting all of them to each person is just not required. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
Thanks David, Wendy Jenny. If all 5 are pasted at once, I'm not in favour of it afterall. I had hoped to be able to use the 5 sources selectively when entering a newly found / newly source-proved family. Thanks for the explanations everyone. On 12 January 2014 20:46, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: On 12/01/2014 08:46, Wendy Howard wrote: When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your database. You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't pick and choose which one you'll use. Which is the only way this multi-clipboard feature would be of any use to me. Very often one is entering the details of a new-found family, including perhaps entries for BMDs from Indexes, and Census entries. The same Master Sources for every person, just differing in Detail. Being able to put several of these Sources on the Clipboard and then SELECTIVELY paste them would be a bit time saver, but pasting all of them to each person is just not required. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
Kathy Using the Source Clipboard is not the way. Use the Save and Name option and that will allow selective pasting from up to 10 sources. David On 12/01/2014 11:26, Kathy Thompson wrote: Thanks David, Wendy Jenny. If all 5 are pasted at once, I'm not in favour of it afterall. I had hoped to be able to use the 5 sources selectively when entering a newly found / newly source-proved family. Thanks for the explanations everyone. On 12 January 2014 20:46, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: On 12/01/2014 08:46, Wendy Howard wrote: When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your database. You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't pick and choose which one you'll use. Which is the only way this multi-clipboard feature would be of any use to me. Very often one is entering the details of a new-found family, including perhaps entries for BMDs from Indexes, and Census entries. The same Master Sources for every person, just differing in Detail. Being able to put several of these Sources on the Clipboard and then SELECTIVELY paste them would be a bit time saver, but pasting all of them to each person is just not required. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
I'll give that a go, thanks David On 12 January 2014 21:31, David Newton lugda...@drdavid.plus.com wrote: Kathy Using the Source Clipboard is not the way. Use the Save and Name option and that will allow selective pasting from up to 10 sources. David On 12/01/2014 11:26, Kathy Thompson wrote: Thanks David, Wendy Jenny. If all 5 are pasted at once, I'm not in favour of it afterall. I had hoped to be able to use the 5 sources selectively when entering a newly found / newly source-proved family. Thanks for the explanations everyone. On 12 January 2014 20:46, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: On 12/01/2014 08:46, Wendy Howard wrote: When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your database. You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't pick and choose which one you'll use. Which is the only way this multi-clipboard feature would be of any use to me. Very often one is entering the details of a new-found family, including perhaps entries for BMDs from Indexes, and Census entries. The same Master Sources for every person, just differing in Detail. Being able to put several of these Sources on the Clipboard and then SELECTIVELY paste them would be a bit time saver, but pasting all of them to each person is just not required. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
Thank you for explaining this because I was confused about applying five sources at once. I've never used this nor do I think I ever will. I do save some clipboard items then apply each of them as needed then delete them. This sounds like a feature that should have stayed gone. It sounds like an accident waiting to happen when someone inadvertently goes to apply what they think is one source then applies up to five. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:46 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 Hi Kathy, I've never had five sources that I wanted to apply all at the same time to the same items of data! But assuming you did, you'd want to go into Customise Sources and set 7.5 Clipboard capacity to Allow up to five sources at once on the Source Clipboard. Then when you open the Source Clipboard, you will see Source 1, Source 2, etc. Set up the first source, then click on Source 2 and set up the second one, and so on. When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your database. You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't pick and choose which one you'll use. Personally, I've not yet come across any situation where I'd find this useful - but I'm sure that day will come. When this option was removed a while back there were apparently many complaints, so it has been reinstated. If you don't want to see the five source tabs in the Source Clipboard, go to 7.5 Clipboard capacity and select Only allow one source on the Source Clipboard - that's the option I have selected for now, until such time as I find a need to apply more than one source at a time. Hope this helps. :-) Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
Don't forget that it is very quick to either reload a saved source, or copy an existing source to the Source Clipboard. I have some long projects going on, that I return to from time to time in-between other bits and pieces in the family tree. Rather than setting up the Source Clipboard from scratch when I come back to a project, I recall the information from a previously-applied/saved source. This ensures there are no differences that result in separate source citations where-ever possible. Usually, I go to someone in the tree where I've already entered data from the same source, and copy that source to the clipboard using the Copy Source to Clipboard icon in the bottom left-hand corner of the Assigned Sources window. I then make any updates needed (usually just the recorded date changed to today), and it's ready to use. Alternately, I could have saved that source using the Save button in the bottom right-hand corner of the Source Clipboard window, and then used the Load button to retrieve it next time I wanted to use it. This could be an answer to the situation Jenny described. I've saved one one of these long-project sources just now as I type, to check out how it works, and it's just as quick to load a saved source as it is to copy an existing source to the clipboard. When I go to load that saved source back into the clipboard, I could assign it to any of the five source tabs I wanted to, if I was going to use more than one source at a time. William said in his post This sounds like a feature that should have stayed gone. It sounds like an accident waiting to happen when someone inadvertently goes to apply what they think is one source then applies up to five. As I said before, I've never had a use for five sources all at the same time - but plenty of people here on this list have said they did when it was available before. In this incarnation you have the option of showing one or five sources, which we didn't have before. Kind Regards, Wendy Kathy Thompson said the following on 13/01/2014 12:26 a.m.: Thanks David, Wendy Jenny. If all 5 are pasted at once, I'm not in favour of it afterall. I had hoped to be able to use the 5 sources selectively when entering a newly found / newly source-proved family. Thanks for the explanations everyone. On 12 January 2014 20:46, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: On 12/01/2014 08:46, Wendy Howard wrote: When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your database. You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't pick and choose which one you'll use. Which is the only way this multi-clipboard feature would be of any use to me. Very often one is entering the details of a new-found family, including perhaps entries for BMDs from Indexes, and Census entries. The same Master Sources for every person, just differing in Detail. Being able to put several of these Sources on the Clipboard and then SELECTIVELY paste them would be a bit time saver, but pasting all of them to each person is just not required. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
Wendy, I completely agree with William.post just gave me an inspiration! I d not see why anyone would need 5 sources to be applied at one time either. As this could lead to major problems for the 'average' user I think this should be an opt-in option. With a popup warning Are you sure Y/N? That wasn't the inspiration. It is: rather than saving 10 sources to the clipboard how about selecting the ones desired from the Sources Master List? Assuming that one would not be entering from 5 new sources at the same time. For the life of me I cannot fathom why one would EVER need to do this! Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Wendy Howard wendy.how...@gmail.comwrote: Don't forget that it is very quick to either reload a saved source, or copy an existing source to the Source Clipboard. I have some long projects going on, that I return to from time to time in-between other bits and pieces in the family tree. Rather than setting up the Source Clipboard from scratch when I come back to a project, I recall the information from a previously-applied/saved source. This ensures there are no differences that result in separate source citations where-ever possible. Usually, I go to someone in the tree where I've already entered data from the same source, and copy that source to the clipboard using the Copy Source to Clipboard icon in the bottom left-hand corner of the Assigned Sources window. I then make any updates needed (usually just the recorded date changed to today), and it's ready to use. Alternately, I could have saved that source using the Save button in the bottom right-hand corner of the Source Clipboard window, and then used the Load button to retrieve it next time I wanted to use it. This could be an answer to the situation Jenny described. I've saved one one of these long-project sources just now as I type, to check out how it works, and it's just as quick to load a saved source as it is to copy an existing source to the clipboard. When I go to load that saved source back into the clipboard, I could assign it to any of the five source tabs I wanted to, if I was going to use more than one source at a time. William said in his post This sounds like a feature that should have stayed gone. It sounds like an accident waiting to happen when someone inadvertently goes to apply what they think is one source then applies up to five. As I said before, I've never had a use for five sources all at the same time - but plenty of people here on this list have said they did when it was available before. In this incarnation you have the option of showing one or five sources, which we didn't have before. Kind Regards, Wendy Kathy Thompson said the following on 13/01/2014 12:26 a.m.: Thanks David, Wendy Jenny. If all 5 are pasted at once, I'm not in favour of it afterall. I had hoped to be able to use the 5 sources selectively when entering a newly found / newly source-proved family. Thanks for the explanations everyone. On 12 January 2014 20:46, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: On 12/01/2014 08:46, Wendy Howard wrote: When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your database. You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't pick and choose which one you'll use. Which is the only way this multi-clipboard feature would be of any use to me. Very often one is entering the details of a new-found family, including perhaps entries for BMDs from Indexes, and Census entries. The same Master Sources for every person, just differing in Detail. Being able to put several of these Sources on the Clipboard and then SELECTIVELY paste them would be a bit time saver, but pasting all of them to each person is just not required. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
Sorry. The previous email was sent while being drafted as a separate email and was not yet meant for posting, although it somewhat applies. Please disregard. For some reason an unidentified key combination causes this to happen. I even got a new wireless keyboard since I thought this was a function of my laptop keyboard but it still happens. Very sporadic and unpredictable. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
It is SO wonderful to have the multiple source option back! I have SCADS of times when I have found sources that document an event and have been SO frustrated at having to enter each source separately since Legacy removed the ability to apply multiple sources at the same time. Too many times, I have had to expend inordinate amounts of time and effort entering five (and even more) sources to an event for dozens of individuals! When you have multiple source that confirm an event, it is imperative to have the ability to enter all the sources at one time. Hours of effort and frustration saved. I am SO VERY glad Legacy has restored this much needed function! CE From: whbosw...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:03:44 -0500 Thank you for explaining this because I was confused about applying five sources at once. I've never used this nor do I think I ever will. I do save some clipboard items then apply each of them as needed then delete them. This sounds like a feature that should have stayed gone. It sounds like an accident waiting to happen when someone inadvertently goes to apply what they think is one source then applies up to five. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:46 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 Hi Kathy, I've never had five sources that I wanted to apply all at the same time to the same items of data! But assuming you did, you'd want to go into Customise Sources and set 7.5 Clipboard capacity to Allow up to five sources at once on the Source Clipboard. Then when you open the Source Clipboard, you will see Source 1, Source 2, etc. Set up the first source, then click on Source 2 and set up the second one, and so on. When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your database. You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't pick and choose which one you'll use. Personally, I've not yet come across any situation where I'd find this useful - but I'm sure that day will come. When this option was removed a while back there were apparently many complaints, so it has been reinstated. If you don't want to see the five source tabs in the Source Clipboard, go to 7.5 Clipboard capacity and select Only allow one source on the Source Clipboard - that's the option I have selected for now, until such time as I find a need to apply more than one source at a time. Hope this helps. :-) Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
See?! I knew there would be someone here who finds it useful. ;-) Thanks for letting us know how you use it, CE. Wendy CE WOOD said the following on 13/01/2014 12:42 p.m.: It is SO wonderful to have the multiple source option back! I have SCADS of times when I have found sources that document an event and have been SO frustrated at having to enter each source separately since Legacy removed the ability to apply multiple sources at the same time. Too many times, I have had to expend inordinate amounts of time and effort entering five (and even more) sources to an event for dozens of individuals! When you have multiple source that confirm an event, it is imperative to have the ability to enter all the sources at one time. Hours of effort and frustration saved. I am SO VERY glad Legacy has restored this much needed function! CE From: whbosw...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:03:44 -0500 Thank you for explaining this because I was confused about applying five sources at once. I've never used this nor do I think I ever will. I do save some clipboard items then apply each of them as needed then delete them. This sounds like a feature that should have stayed gone. It sounds like an accident waiting to happen when someone inadvertently goes to apply what they think is one source then applies up to five. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:46 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 Hi Kathy, I've never had five sources that I wanted to apply all at the same time to the same items of data! But assuming you did, you'd want to go into Customise Sources and set 7.5 Clipboard capacity to Allow up to five sources at once on the Source Clipboard. Then when you open the Source Clipboard, you will see Source 1, Source 2, etc. Set up the first source, then click on Source 2 and set up the second one, and so on. When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your database. You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't pick and choose which one you'll use. Personally, I've not yet come across any situation where I'd find this useful - but I'm sure that day will come. When this option was removed a while back there were apparently many complaints, so it has been reinstated. If you don't want to see the five source tabs in the Source Clipboard, go to 7.5 Clipboard capacity and select Only allow one source on the Source Clipboard - that's the option I have selected for now, until such time as I find a need to apply more than one source at a time. Hope this helps. :-) Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
CE, I am glad to know there is someone who uses this option and I understand it theoretically but am having trouble understanding how this works in reality. Could you provide a simple example of how you have 5 or more sources at the same time for any given piece of information? I really am struggling to grasp this. Maybe it would be something I could use if I knew how. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 4:42 PM, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote: It is SO wonderful to have the multiple source option back! I have SCADS of times when I have found sources that document an event and have been SO frustrated at having to enter each source separately since Legacy removed the ability to apply multiple sources at the same time. Too many times, I have had to expend inordinate amounts of time and effort entering five (and even more) sources to an event for dozens of individuals! When you have multiple source that confirm an event, it is imperative to have the ability to enter all the sources at one time. Hours of effort and frustration saved. I am SO VERY glad Legacy has restored this much needed function! CE From: whbosw...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:03:44 -0500 Thank you for explaining this because I was confused about applying five sources at once. I've never used this nor do I think I ever will. I do save some clipboard items then apply each of them as needed then delete them. This sounds like a feature that should have stayed gone. It sounds like an accident waiting to happen when someone inadvertently goes to apply what they think is one source then applies up to five. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:46 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 Hi Kathy, I've never had five sources that I wanted to apply all at the same time to the same items of data! But assuming you did, you'd want to go into Customise Sources and set 7.5 Clipboard capacity to Allow up to five sources at once on the Source Clipboard. Then when you open the Source Clipboard, you will see Source 1, Source 2, etc. Set up the first source, then click on Source 2 and set up the second one, and so on. When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your database. You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't pick and choose which one you'll use. Personally, I've not yet come across any situation where I'd find this useful - but I'm sure that day will come. When this option was removed a while back there were apparently many complaints, so it has been reinstated. If you don't want to see the five source tabs in the Source Clipboard, go to 7.5 Clipboard capacity and select Only allow one source on the Source Clipboard - that's the option I have selected for now, until such time as I find a need to apply more than one source at a time. Hope this helps. :-) Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
This feature was actually in Version 6. I used it all the time and I was very sad when they didn’t include it in Version 7.5. Needless to say, I am now very happy again :) Michele Technical Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com www.LegacyFamilyTree.com From: CE WOOD [mailto:wood...@msn.com] Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 6:43 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 It is SO wonderful to have the multiple source option back! I have SCADS of times when I have found sources that document an event and have been SO frustrated at having to enter each source separately since Legacy removed the ability to apply multiple sources at the same time. Too many times, I have had to expend inordinate amounts of time and effort entering five (and even more) sources to an event for dozens of individuals! When you have multiple source that confirm an event, it is imperative to have the ability to enter all the sources at one time. Hours of effort and frustration saved. I am SO VERY glad Legacy has restored this much needed function! CE Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
I understand how it works in theory - but since I find most of my multiple sources all actually cite the same source (say 18 books that cite the same original source), I find i use this very little since I prefer to go back to the original source - and hopefully later be able to obtain the documentation for myself. There may be times it is useful... I just haven't found it. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com wrote: CE, I am glad to know there is someone who uses this option and I understand it theoretically but am having trouble understanding how this works in reality. Could you provide a simple example of how you have 5 or more sources at the same time for any given piece of information? I really am struggling to grasp this. Maybe it would be something I could use if I knew how. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 4:42 PM, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote: It is SO wonderful to have the multiple source option back! I have SCADS of times when I have found sources that document an event and have been SO frustrated at having to enter each source separately since Legacy removed the ability to apply multiple sources at the same time. Too many times, I have had to expend inordinate amounts of time and effort entering five (and even more) sources to an event for dozens of individuals! When you have multiple source that confirm an event, it is imperative to have the ability to enter all the sources at one time. Hours of effort and frustration saved. I am SO VERY glad Legacy has restored this much needed function! CE From: whbosw...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:03:44 -0500 Thank you for explaining this because I was confused about applying five sources at once. I've never used this nor do I think I ever will. I do save some clipboard items then apply each of them as needed then delete them. This sounds like a feature that should have stayed gone. It sounds like an accident waiting to happen when someone inadvertently goes to apply what they think is one source then applies up to five. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:46 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 Hi Kathy, I've never had five sources that I wanted to apply all at the same time to the same items of data! But assuming you did, you'd want to go into Customise Sources and set 7.5 Clipboard capacity to Allow up to five sources at once on the Source Clipboard. Then when you open the Source Clipboard, you will see Source 1, Source 2, etc. Set up the first source, then click on Source 2 and set up the second one, and so on. When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your database. You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't pick and choose which one you'll use. Personally, I've not yet come across any situation where I'd find this useful - but I'm sure that day will come. When this option was removed a while back there were apparently many complaints, so it has been reinstated. If you don't want to see the five source tabs in the Source Clipboard, go to 7.5 Clipboard capacity and select Only allow one source on the Source Clipboard - that's the option I have selected for now, until such time as I find a need to apply more than one source at a time. Hope this helps. :-) Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup
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Michelle, See my last post to CE regarding an example of how this is used please. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Michele/Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: This feature was actually in Version 6. I used it all the time and I was very sad when they didn’t include it in Version 7.5. Needless to say, I am now very happy again :) Michele Technical Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com www.LegacyFamilyTree.com From: CE WOOD [mailto:wood...@msn.com] Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 6:43 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 It is SO wonderful to have the multiple source option back! I have SCADS of times when I have found sources that document an event and have been SO frustrated at having to enter each source separately since Legacy removed the ability to apply multiple sources at the same time. Too many times, I have had to expend inordinate amounts of time and effort entering five (and even more) sources to an event for dozens of individuals! When you have multiple source that confirm an event, it is imperative to have the ability to enter all the sources at one time. Hours of effort and frustration saved. I am SO VERY glad Legacy has restored this much needed function! CE Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
Jackie, Even if you were to find 18 secondary sources that mention the same primary source you wouldn't find or even be working with all 18 at the same time would you? This is the part I am not understanding. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Jackie King jskin...@gmail.com wrote: I understand how it works in theory - but since I find most of my multiple sources all actually cite the same source (say 18 books that cite the same original source), I find i use this very little since I prefer to go back to the original source - and hopefully later be able to obtain the documentation for myself. There may be times it is useful... I just haven't found it. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com wrote: CE, I am glad to know there is someone who uses this option and I understand it theoretically but am having trouble understanding how this works in reality. Could you provide a simple example of how you have 5 or more sources at the same time for any given piece of information? I really am struggling to grasp this. Maybe it would be something I could use if I knew how. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 4:42 PM, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote: It is SO wonderful to have the multiple source option back! I have SCADS of times when I have found sources that document an event and have been SO frustrated at having to enter each source separately since Legacy removed the ability to apply multiple sources at the same time. Too many times, I have had to expend inordinate amounts of time and effort entering five (and even more) sources to an event for dozens of individuals! When you have multiple source that confirm an event, it is imperative to have the ability to enter all the sources at one time. Hours of effort and frustration saved. I am SO VERY glad Legacy has restored this much needed function! CE From: whbosw...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:03:44 -0500 Thank you for explaining this because I was confused about applying five sources at once. I've never used this nor do I think I ever will. I do save some clipboard items then apply each of them as needed then delete them. This sounds like a feature that should have stayed gone. It sounds like an accident waiting to happen when someone inadvertently goes to apply what they think is one source then applies up to five. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:46 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 Hi Kathy, I've never had five sources that I wanted to apply all at the same time to the same items of data! But assuming you did, you'd want to go into Customise Sources and set 7.5 Clipboard capacity to Allow up to five sources at once on the Source Clipboard. Then when you open the Source Clipboard, you will see Source 1, Source 2, etc. Set up the first source, then click on Source 2 and set up the second one, and so on. When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your database. You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't pick and choose which one you'll use. Personally, I've not yet come across any situation where I'd find this useful - but I'm sure that day will come. When this option was removed a while back there were apparently many complaints, so it has been reinstated. If you don't want to see the five source tabs in the Source Clipboard, go to 7.5 Clipboard capacity and select Only allow one source on the Source Clipboard - that's the option I have selected for now, until such time as I find a need to apply more than one source at a time. Hope this helps. :-) Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
Unfortuntely, that is exactly what I find a lot of people doing. It is indicates the mentality that the more people who cite this particular source, the more valuable it must be. My point being is how many primary sources do you find for say a birth record? Late enough you may have the actual certificate -you may have the county register for that certificate, and you may have a bible reference. But when it boils down to it - you have the certificate. Now you may have a dozen books citiing that certificate and a ton of folks will cite all dozen books - but those are secondary sources all citing the original certificate or register. How many of those do you really need? On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com wrote: Jackie, Even if you were to find 18 secondary sources that mention the same primary source you wouldn't find or even be working with all 18 at the same time would you? This is the part I am not understanding. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Jackie King jskin...@gmail.com wrote: I understand how it works in theory - but since I find most of my multiple sources all actually cite the same source (say 18 books that cite the same original source), I find i use this very little since I prefer to go back to the original source - and hopefully later be able to obtain the documentation for myself. There may be times it is useful... I just haven't found it. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com wrote: CE, I am glad to know there is someone who uses this option and I understand it theoretically but am having trouble understanding how this works in reality. Could you provide a simple example of how you have 5 or more sources at the same time for any given piece of information? I really am struggling to grasp this. Maybe it would be something I could use if I knew how. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 4:42 PM, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote: It is SO wonderful to have the multiple source option back! I have SCADS of times when I have found sources that document an event and have been SO frustrated at having to enter each source separately since Legacy removed the ability to apply multiple sources at the same time. Too many times, I have had to expend inordinate amounts of time and effort entering five (and even more) sources to an event for dozens of individuals! When you have multiple source that confirm an event, it is imperative to have the ability to enter all the sources at one time. Hours of effort and frustration saved. I am SO VERY glad Legacy has restored this much needed function! CE From: whbosw...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:03:44 -0500 Thank you for explaining this because I was confused about applying five sources at once. I've never used this nor do I think I ever will. I do save some clipboard items then apply each of them as needed then delete them. This sounds like a feature that should have stayed gone. It sounds like an accident waiting to happen when someone inadvertently goes to apply what they think is one source then applies up to five. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:46 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 Hi Kathy, I've never had five sources that I wanted to apply all at the same time to the same items of data! But assuming you did, you'd want to go into Customise Sources and set 7.5 Clipboard capacity to Allow up to five sources at once on the Source Clipboard. Then when you open the Source Clipboard, you will see Source 1, Source 2, etc. Set up the first source, then click on Source 2 and set up the second one, and so on. When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your database. You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't pick and choose which one you'll use. Personally, I've not yet come across any situation where I'd find this useful - but I'm sure that day will come. When this option was removed a while back there were apparently many complaints, so it has been reinstated. If you don't want to see the five source tabs in the Source Clipboard, go to 7.5 Clipboard capacity and select Only allow one source on the Source Clipboard - that's the option I have selected for now, until such time as I find a need to apply more than one source at a time. Hope this helps. :-) Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server
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Here is an example. Let’s say you are going to use multiple census records as a source for something. You can put them all on the clipboard and paste them all at once. An example of that is using multiple censuses to show the relationship of the children to the parents or the marriage of the parents. Michele Technical Support mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com mich...@legacyfamilytree.com www.LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com From: Larry Lee [mailto:ldlee...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 7:09 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 CE, I am glad to know there is someone who uses this option and I understand it theoretically but am having trouble understanding how this works in reality. Could you provide a simple example of how you have 5 or more sources at the same time for any given piece of information? I really am struggling to grasp this. Maybe it would be something I could use if I knew how. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com mailto:a...@gmail.com On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 4:42 PM, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com mailto:wood...@msn.com wrote: It is SO wonderful to have the multiple source option back! I have SCADS of times when I have found sources that document an event and have been SO frustrated at having to enter each source separately since Legacy removed the ability to apply multiple sources at the same time. Too many times, I have had to expend inordinate amounts of time and effort entering five (and even more) sources to an event for dozens of individuals! When you have multiple source that confirm an event, it is imperative to have the ability to enter all the sources at one time. Hours of effort and frustration saved. I am SO VERY glad Legacy has restored this much needed function! CE From: whbosw...@gmail.com mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:03:44 -0500 Thank you for explaining this because I was confused about applying five sources at once. I've never used this nor do I think I ever will. I do save some clipboard items then apply each of them as needed then delete them. This sounds like a feature that should have stayed gone. It sounds like an accident waiting to happen when someone inadvertently goes to apply what they think is one source then applies up to five. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com ] Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:46 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 Hi Kathy, I've never had five sources that I wanted to apply all at the same time to the same items of data! But assuming you did, you'd want to go into Customise Sources and set 7.5 Clipboard capacity to Allow up to five sources at once on the Source Clipboard. Then when you open the Source Clipboard, you will see Source 1, Source 2, etc. Set up the first source, then click on Source 2 and set up the second one, and so on. When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your database. You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't pick and choose which one you'll use. Personally, I've not yet come across any situation where I'd find this useful - but I'm sure that day will come. When this option was removed a while back there were apparently many complaints, so it has been reinstated. If you don't want to see the five source tabs in the Source Clipboard, go to 7.5 Clipboard capacity and select Only allow one source on the Source Clipboard - that's the option I have selected for now, until such time as I find a need to apply more than one source at a time. Hope this helps. :-) Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy
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If you have any ancestors in the mediaeval era, you would not be asking this question. It is essential. CE Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 17:08:54 -0700 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 From: ldlee...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com CE, I am glad to know there is someone who uses this option and I understand it theoretically but am having trouble understanding how this works in reality. Could you provide a simple example of how you have 5 or more sources at the same time for any given piece of information? I really am struggling to grasp this. Maybe it would be something I could use if I knew how. Larry leeldlee...@gmail.com On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 4:42 PM, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote: It is SO wonderful to have the multiple source option back! I have SCADS of times when I have found sources that document an event and have been SO frustrated at having to enter each source separately since Legacy removed the ability to apply multiple sources at the same time. Too many times, I have had to expend inordinate amounts of time and effort entering five (and even more) sources to an event for dozens of individuals! When you have multiple source that confirm an event, it is imperative to have the ability to enter all the sources at one time. Hours of effort and frustration saved. I am SO VERY glad Legacy has restored this much needed function! CE From: whbosw...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:03:44 -0500 Thank you for explaining this because I was confused about applying five sources at once. I've never used this nor do I think I ever will. I do save some clipboard items then apply each of them as needed then delete them. This sounds like a feature that should have stayed gone. It sounds like an accident waiting to happen when someone inadvertently goes to apply what they think is one source then applies up to five. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:46 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 Hi Kathy, I've never had five sources that I wanted to apply all at the same time to the same items of data! But assuming you did, you'd want to go into Customise Sources and set 7.5 Clipboard capacity to Allow up to five sources at once on the Source Clipboard. Then when you open the Source Clipboard, you will see Source 1, Source 2, etc. Set up the first source, then click on Source 2 and set up the second one, and so on. When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your database. You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't pick and choose which one you'll use. Personally, I've not yet come across any situation where I'd find this useful - but I'm sure that day will come. When this option was removed a while back there were apparently many complaints, so it has been reinstated. If you don't want to see the five source tabs in the Source Clipboard, go to 7.5 Clipboard capacity and select Only allow one source on the Source Clipboard - that's the option I have selected for now, until such time as I find a need to apply more than one source at a time. Hope this helps. :-) Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow
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I'm among those who haven't found a use for multiple source clipboards. When they existed before I got tired of explaining to people that they all attached at once as so many though only the front tab would. I can't imagine using multiple clipboards in this way either, Michelle. I'd get a massive headache and it would take far longer than doing them one at a time. Different children are at home in different censuses. Either the younger ones aren't born or the older ones have left home. Besides, I would have entered it as the source for relationship when I was entering the details I'd learnt from the census if I was wanting to source the relationship. A lot of my data entry was done before we could source the relationship and I was used to putting this information in for the name of parents and child. Now I tend to only specifically source the relationships for direct line and for people where the relationship has been difficult to find. Any other examples? Like Larry, I can't see any use at all for multiple source clipboards which all attach at once. On the other hand there is value in the Load and Save option to keep some sources quickly and easily accessible, with or without their current detail. Cathy At 09:58 AM 13/01/2014, you wrote: Here is an example. Letâs say you are going to use multiple census records as a source for something. You can put them all on the clipboard and paste them all at once.  An example of that is using multiple censuses to show the relationship of the children to the parents or the marriage of the parents. Michele Technical Support mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.commich...@legacyfamilytree.com www.LegacyFamilyTree.com From: Larry Lee [mailto:ldlee...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 7:09 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 CE, I am glad to know there is someone who uses this option and I understand it theoretically but am having trouble understanding how this works in reality. Could you provide a simple example of how you have 5 or more sources at the same time for any given piece of information? I really am struggling to grasp this. Maybe it would be something I could use if I knew how. Larry Lee ldlee.mailto:a...@gmail.coma...@gmail.com On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 4:42 PM, CE WOOD mailto:wood...@msn.comwood...@msn.com wrote: It is SO wonderful to have the multiple source option back! I have SCADS of times when I have found sources that document an event and have been SO frustrated at having to enter each source separately since Legacy removed the ability to apply multiple sources at the same time. Too many times, I have had to expend inordinate amounts of time and effort entering five (and even more) sources to an event for dozens of individuals! When you have multiple source that confirm an event, it is imperative to have the ability to enter all the sources at one time. Hours of effort and frustration saved. I am SO VERY glad Legacy has restored this much needed function! CE From: mailto:whbosw...@gmail.comwhbosw...@gmail.com To: mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.comLegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:03:44 -0500 Thank you for explaining this because I was confused about applying five sources at once. I've never used this nor do I think I ever will. I do save some clipboard items then apply each of them as needed then delete them. This sounds like a feature that should have stayed gone. It sounds like an accident waiting to happen when someone inadvertently goes to apply what they think is one source then applies up to five. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:46 AM To: mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.comLegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 Hi Kathy, I've never had five sources that I wanted to apply all at the same time to the same items of data! But assuming you did, you'd want to go into Customise Sources and set 7.5 Clipboard capacity to Allow up to five sources at once on the Source Clipboard. Then when you open the Source Clipboard, you will see Source 1, Source 2, etc. Set up the first source, then click on Source 2 and set up the second one, and so on. When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your database. You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't pick and choose which one you'll use. Personally, I've not yet come across any situation where I'd find this useful - but I'm sure that day will come. When this option was removed a while back there were apparently many complaints, so it has been reinstated. If you don't want to see the five source tabs in the Source Clipboard, go to 7.5
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Well I haven't gotten nearly that far and I still see no use for it so I won't bother myself with it. Thanks to those who have answered my question. Larry Lee Sent from my Nook On Jan 12, 2014 8:16 PM, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote: If you have any ancestors in the mediaeval era, you would not be asking this question. It is essential. CE -- Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 17:08:54 -0700 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 From: ldlee...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com CE, I am glad to know there is someone who uses this option and I understand it theoretically but am having trouble understanding how this works in reality. Could you provide a simple example of how you have 5 or more sources at the same time for any given piece of information? I really am struggling to grasp this. Maybe it would be something I could use if I knew how. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 4:42 PM, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote: It is SO wonderful to have the multiple source option back! I have SCADS of times when I have found sources that document an event and have been SO frustrated at having to enter each source separately since Legacy removed the ability to apply multiple sources at the same time. Too many times, I have had to expend inordinate amounts of time and effort entering five (and even more) sources to an event for dozens of individuals! When you have multiple source that confirm an event, it is imperative to have the ability to enter all the sources at one time. Hours of effort and frustration saved. I am SO VERY glad Legacy has restored this much needed function! CE From: whbosw...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:03:44 -0500 Thank you for explaining this because I was confused about applying five sources at once. I've never used this nor do I think I ever will. I do save some clipboard items then apply each of them as needed then delete them. This sounds like a feature that should have stayed gone. It sounds like an accident waiting to happen when someone inadvertently goes to apply what they think is one source then applies up to five. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:46 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 Hi Kathy, I've never had five sources that I wanted to apply all at the same time to the same items of data! But assuming you did, you'd want to go into Customise Sources and set 7.5 Clipboard capacity to Allow up to five sources at once on the Source Clipboard. Then when you open the Source Clipboard, you will see Source 1, Source 2, etc. Set up the first source, then click on Source 2 and set up the second one, and so on. When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your database. You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't pick and choose which one you'll use. Personally, I've not yet come across any situation where I'd find this useful - but I'm sure that day will come. When this option was removed a while back there were apparently many complaints, so it has been reinstated. If you don't want to see the five source tabs in the Source Clipboard, go to 7.5 Clipboard capacity and select Only allow one source on the Source Clipboard - that's the option I have selected for now, until such time as I find a need to apply more than one source at a time. Hope this helps. :-) Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived
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Obviously you do not yet have mediaeval ancestors in your file, for whom original documents are mostly non-existent, confused by persons with the same names and title living at the same time, and for whom only RELIABLE secondary sources are possible. For these MANY people, having several of these RELIABLE secondary sources agree on the facts is essential to surety that the fact is correct, ie: Altschul, Michael, A Baronial Family in Medieval England: The Clares, 1217-1314. Baltimore: John Hopkins Press, 1965. Dana Library (Rutgers Newark) CS439.C6285. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant. Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Holloway, Naomi D, The Genealogy of Mary Wentworth, Who Became the Wife of William Brewster, Revised Edition, October 1969. LDS Film#1738313 item#5 Keats-Rohan, K.S.B., Domesday Descendants, A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166. Vol II: Pipe Rolls to Cartae Baronum. Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk: Boydell Press, 2002. NYPL ARF 03-4178 vol 2. Corrections at http://users.ox.ac.uk/~prosop/domesday-descendants-corrigenda.pdf Louda, Jiri, and Michael MacLagan, Heraldry of The Royal Families of Europe. New York: Clarkson Potter, 1981. Morris County Library 929.6094. Paget, Gerald, The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales. London: Charles Skilton Ltd, 1977. Nypl ARF+ 78-835. Pierce, Samuel, Mary WENTWORTH, in Society of Mayflower Descendants in District of Columbus, Vol 1 #11, Sep 1968, quoted in Walters, Patricia, WALTERS, HERMANN, and other related families, unpublished manuscript of 23 vols., vol 15: AUSTIN/HARMON, Film#1597556 item#4. Previte-Orton, C. W., The Shorter Cambridge Medieval History, Cambridge: University Press, 1952. Chatham 940.1PRE. Redlich, Marcellus Donald R Von, Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants. Order of the Crown of Charlemagne, 1941. Roberts, Gary Boyd, Ancestors of American Presidents, First Authoritative Edition. Santa Clarita, CA: Carl Boyer, 1995. Roberts, Gary Boyd, The Royal Descents of 600 Immigrants to the American Colonies or the United States: who were themselves notable or left descendants notable in American history, with a 2008 Addendum, Coda, and Final Additions. Baltimore, MD: Gen Pub Co, 2008. NYPL APK 08-4216. Sanders, I. J., English Baronies, A Study of Their Origin and Descent 1086-1327. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. II: Die Ausserdeutschen Staaten Die Regierenden Hauser der Ubrigen Staaten Europas. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1984. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. III.1 (#1-#200): Herzogs und Grafenhauser des Heiligen Romischen Reiches Andere Europaische Furstenhauser. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1984. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. III.2 (#201-#400): Nichtstandesgemasse und Illegitime Nachkommen der Regierenden Hauser Europas. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1983. Watney, Vernon James, The Wallop Family and their Ancestry, Oxford:John Johnson, 1928. LDS Film#1696491 items 6-9. Weis, Frederick L, Magna Charta Sureties 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna Charta and Some of Their Descendants. 4th Ed. Baltimore: Gen Pub Co, 1991. Weis, Frederick Lewis, Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, David Faris, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America before 1700, 7th Edition, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1992. Wurts, John S., Magna Charta: The Pedigrees of the Barons, Philadelphia, PA: Brookfield Publishing Co, 1942 A concurrence of such RELIABLE secondary sources os essential to have surety. It is essential to list them ALL. If you have only one source for an event, that is not a problem. But when, to verify events, you need have the concurrence of many RELIABLE sources, having to enter all of them each time is, often literally, a royal pain, and VERY time-consuming. Oh, yes, you need to make sure that you are attaching the correct clipboard. That obtains, no matter whether your clipboard contains one or five sources. But having to change clipboards 5 times for each event for each of dozens of people is much more headache-producing than having to remember what you have on your clipboard. This is not a problem for you now, but you may yet find mediaeval ancestors, and find this an incredible time-saver/boon/welcome return. CE From: genea...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 11:17:28 +0800 I'm among those who haven't found a use for multiple source clipboards. When they existed before I got tired
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CE Thanks for the list. I'll pass it on to a friend who is back to Medieval times. I agree that sometimes secondary sources are all you have and you have to rely on the scholarly work of others. Various medieval scholars agreeing strengthens the argument. Quite different from a number of Ancestry trees agreeing and one being different. I'd give serious consideration to the different one in that case unless the others referred to a primary source. But I still don't get how I'd use multiple clipboards. The way I work, I'd explore one source at a time. I know enough from discussing things with my friend, that sources like these often don't agree and even some that do don't make sense when the dates are looked at closely. When I started a branch of my family I had a number of family trees from family members in that branch. It was only by entering them one at a time that I became aware of the differences between them and was able to even ask the relevant questions to find the most reliable and seek primary sources. I recall I fleetingly thought of using the multiple clipboards but soon realised it would be far more time consuming for me to do that. I think that was when I learnt that they all attach together. I'm glad it works for you. Different methods do work for different people because we think differently. Regards, Cathy At 12:06 PM 13/01/2014, you wrote: Obviously you do not yet have mediaeval ancestors in your file, for whom original documents are mostly non-existent, confused by persons with the same names and title living at the same time, and for whom only RELIABLE secondary sources are possible. For these MANY people, having several of these RELIABLE secondary sources agree on the facts is essential to surety that the fact is correct, ie: Altschul, Michael, A Baronial Family in Medieval England: The Clares, 1217-1314. Baltimore: John Hopkins Press, 1965. Dana Library (Rutgers Newark) CS439.C6285. A concurrence of such RELIABLE secondary sources os essential to have surety. It is essential to list them ALL. If you have only one source for an event, that is not a problem. But when, to verify events, you need have the concurrence of many RELIABLE sources, having to enter all of them each time is, often literally, a royal pain, and VERY time-consuming. Oh, yes, you need to make sure that you are attaching the correct clipboard. That obtains, no matter whether your clipboard contains one or five sources. But having to change clipboards 5 times for each event for each of dozens of people is much more headache-producing than having to remember what you have on your clipboard. This is not a problem for you now, but you may yet find mediaeval ancestors, and find this an incredible time-saver/boon/welcome return. CE From: genea...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 11:17:28 +0800 I'm among those who haven't found a use for multiple source clipboards. When they existed before I got tired of explaining to people that they all attached at once as so many though only the front tab would. I can't imagine using multiple clipboards in this way either, Michelle. I'd get a massive headache and it would take far longer than doing them one at a time. Different children are at home in different censuses. Either the younger ones aren't born or the older ones have left home. Besides, I would have entered it as the source for relationship when I was entering the details I'd learnt from the census if I was wanting to source the relationship. A lot of my data entry was done before we could source the relationship and I was used to putting this information in for the name of parents and child. Now I tend to only specifically source the relationships for direct line and for people where the relationship has been difficult to find. Any other examples? Like Larry, I can't see any use at all for multiple source clipboards which all attach at once. On the other hand there is value in the Load and Save option to keep some sources quickly and easily accessible, with or without their current detail. Cathy At 09:58 AM 13/01/2014, you wrote: Here is an example.à Letâs say you are going to use multiple census rs records as a source for something.à You can put them all on the clipboard and paste them all at once. à An example of that is using multiple censuses to show the relationship of the children to the parents or the marriage of the parents. Michele Technical Support mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.commich...@legacyfamilytree.com www.LegacyFamilyTree.com From: Larry Lee [mailto:ldlee...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 7:09 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 CE, I am glad to know there is someone who uses this option and I understand
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Here are a few examples where I have used multiple sources on the source clipboards (although very rarely do I need to use 5 at once): (1)I used to use one citation for a particular Scottish census. More recently, I’ve realized that I need to be more exact as to where the information came from. In a few instances, I have the actual image of the census that I got from ScotlandsPeople. In some earlier instances, I have the transcription that was provided by FreeCEN. More recently, I have transcriptions done by Ancestry.com. All of these different sources were referenced simply as “1841 Census of Scotland” but even though they refer to the same event, they are different sources. And sometimes that difference is critical. So… in fixing my census sources, I may have one, two, or even all three of those sources that were consulted in the course of my examination of this particular family. So I load up all three on the clipboard and paste away as necessary to document the family. (2)For a birth record in Scotland… I may have an old IGI record that came from transcribed parish records; I may have the new transcription from FamilySearch’s “Scottish Births and Baptisms” database; I may have the actual birth certificate from ScotlandsPeople. I also have a generic record called “Birth Certificate” which simply means (to me), that I have a paper or digital copy of the original record (regardless of what agency created the certificate). So I may want to have all of these on the clipboard at once as I document a person (or a series of individuals from a family). Now… do I need to document all these different sources? That’s another question… and the answer may be no… but on the other hand… for someone tracking my work… it may be easier for them to get a hold of one of those sources than another. And sometimes there’s a discrepancy … the transcribed record said one thing, the certificate says another. In these cases, sometimes it’s faster to apply all five sources, and just simply delete the ones that don’t apply via the individual’s sources window. (3)When I was new (and using a different genealogy program), it seemed too much effort to apply a particular source to every single fact that I had acquired from that source. So I made the stupid decision to simply apply the source to the person’s name. Now that I’m wiser, I see it is important that I know that the birth dates, locations, marriage dates, nicknames, occupations, etc. also came from this source. When I happen on these cases and am adding new sources to the person, I load up a copy of the old source from the name and paste away. Again, sometimes it’s faster to apply multiple sources and delete an occasional source from a particular field than it would be to load up each of these sources individually and apply each one individually to all the places necessary in separate passes. In sum, I find using multiple sources on the clipboards most useful when I’m fixing old mistakes. I’ve found it faster sometimes to apply multiple sources once, and delete the occasional one that doesn’t belong rather than do each one in its own pass. And, finally, once I’m done, I clean out all the other clipboards and re-set the main one to my default source. From: Larry Lee [mailto:ldlee...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 4:09 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 CE, I am glad to know there is someone who uses this option and I understand it theoretically but am having trouble understanding how this works in reality. Could you provide a simple example of how you have 5 or more sources at the same time for any given piece of information? I really am struggling to grasp this. Maybe it would be something I could use if I knew how. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Thanks Kirsty those examples are helpful. Larry Lee Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
