Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[Paula Ryburn]

Michele,
I usually just open the first child's source window, copy the citation to the 
clipboard, open the second child's source window, and copy the citation from 
the clipboard.
I tend to work more like Jenny does, though I will keep the ability to process 
a bounty of 5 sources of information for one person or event simultaneously in 
mind. ;)
 
--Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman 
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field 
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle 
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche 
Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams



 From: Michele/Support 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 9:33 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5


I usually use this as I am cleaning up my file and I noticed that I forgot to 
source something (like I sourced one child but forgot the other).  You can fix 
the sources quicker if you can paste the multiple sources at one time.



Michele
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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[CE Wood]

Here is one:



Spouses and Children

  _

1. BLANCHE Plantagenet of Lancaster (25 Mar 1342 - 12 Sep 1368)  
 17  
 18  
 19  
 20  
 21  
 24  
 25

2. Constance, Queen de León & Castile (1354 - 24 Mar 1394)  
 6  
 30  
 31  
 32  
 35

3. *KATHERINE de Roet (25 Nov 1350 - 10 May 1403)  
 6  
 32  
 38  
 39  
 40  
 41







6. Moriarty, George Andrews, Plantagenet Ancestry of King Edward III and Queen 
Philippa of Hainault (Salt Lake City, UT:  Mormon Pioneer Genealogical Society, 
1985), 2.

17. Cokayne, George Edward, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, 
Great Britain, and the United Kingdom Extant, Extinct, or Dormant, 2nd edition 
(London:  St Catherine Press), VII:410, IV:204.

18. GEN-MEDIEVAL, "Children of Henry de Beaumont, Earl of Buchan," Brad Verity, 
9/1/04.

19. Fowler, Kenneth, The King's Lieutenant Henry of Grosmont, First Duke of 
Lancaster 1310-1361 (New York:  Barnes and Noble, 1969).

20. Great Britain Public Record Office, Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem 
and Other Analagous Documents Preserved in the Public Records Office (London, 
UK:  Printed for H. M. Stationery Off. by Makie, 1904-), Vol. 11, no. 
118:92-116.

21. Phillips, Chris, Some Corrections and Additions to the Complete Peerage, 
Lancaster, 8/26/04;
“Volume 7, page 410 (as modified by volume 14):
His two daughters and coheirs [i.e. the daughters of Henry, Earl of Lancaster 
and Leicester (d. 1360/1)], between whom a partition was made 6 July 1361, 
were: (i) Maud, aged 22 in 1361. ... ... (ii) Blanche, aged 20 in 1361 [See 
Inq. p.m., vol. xi, no. 118 (pp. 96 and 105), but John of Gaunt's Register 
1372-6, vol. 2, p. 70, says she was 24 when she died (in 1368), and was thus 16 
in 1361.].
At the inquisitions taken after the death of their father, a range of ages were 
given for the two daughters. The ages given for Maud lie between 18 and 26, and 
those for Blanche between 16 and 21. The most precise indications of age are in 
the inquisitions for Derbyshire and Staffordshire, taken 4 and 6 May 1361, 
according to which Maud was 21 at the feast of St Ambrose last [4 April 1361], 
implying that she was born 4 April 1340, and Blanche was 19 at the feast of the 
Annunciation last [25 March 1361], implying that she was born 25 March 1342 
[Calendar of inquisitions post mortem, vol. 11, no 118 (pp. 92-116)].”

24. Stephen, Leslie & Lee, Sidney, eds., Dictionary of National Biography (New 
York:  Macmillan & Co., 1885-).

25. Cokayne, George Edward, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, 
Great Britain, and the United Kingdom Extant, Extinct, or Dormant, 2nd edition 
(London:  St Catherine Press), VII:415, XIV:421.

30. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur 
Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge ("European Family Trees: Family 
Trees for the History of European States, New Series") 3rd Series -16 Vols.. 
4th Series - 8 Vols. (Marburg, Germany: J. A. Stargardt, 1903-1995), II #64, 85.

31. Paget, Gerald, The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles, Prince of 
Wales (London: Charles Skilton Ltd, 1977), 22.

32. Weis, Frederick Lewis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who 
came to America before 1700: the Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, 
Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants 
(Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publ. Co., 7th ed., 1999), 1-31.

35. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur 
Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge ("European Family Trees: Family 
Trees for the History of European States, New Series") 3rd Series -16 Vols.. 
4th Series - 8 Vols. (Marburg, Germany: J. A. Stargardt, 1903-1995), II #64.

38. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur 
Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge ("European Family Trees: Family 
Trees for the History of European States, New Series") 3rd Series -16 Vols.. 
4th Series - 8 Vols. (Marburg, Germany: J. A. Stargardt, 1903-1995), II #85.

39. Paget, Gerald, The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles, Prince of 
Wales (London: Charles Skilton Ltd, 1977), 22, 84.

40. Paget, Gerald, The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles, Prince of 
Wales (London: Charles Skilton Ltd, 1977), 24, 84.

41. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur 
Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge ("European Family Trees: Family 
Trees for the History of European States, New Series") 3rd Series -16 Vols.. 
4th Series - 8 Vols. (Marburg, Germany: J. A. Stargardt, 1903-1995), II #85, 
III #157.





CE



From: Larry Lee [mailto:ldlee...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 4:09 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5



CE,



I am glad to know there is someone who uses this option and I understand it 
theoretically but am having trouble understanding how

Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[singhals]

Please note that I fully agree with going to the original
source whenever possible.

However, if you have 6 books, all published in, say 1884 +/-
3 years, how do you determine which if any WAS the original
source?

As in: Clara Aardvark married in 1804 Elias Batterbum; their
daughter Inez married Clem Kadiddlehopper and their son
Sanford married Paula Retry.

This series is repeated in an Aardvark family history, in a
family history done by Elias' mother's brother, in a Retry
family history, and in one done by Clara's mother's uncle.
Clearly these authors had equal access to word-of-mouth and
probably knew all the parties named.  So /which/ can you
cite as the original?

Easier to put all of 'em in as a source at least until you
can find the documents that confirm/refute something.

Cheryl



Jackie King wrote:
> I understand how it works in theory - but since I find most
> of my multiple sources all actually cite the same source
> (say 18 books that cite the same original source), I find i
> use this very little since I prefer to go back to the
> original source - and hopefully later be able to obtain the
> documentation for myself.
>
> There may be times it is useful... I just haven't found it.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Larry Lee
> mailto:ldlee...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> CE,
>
> I am glad to know there is someone who uses this option
> and I understand it theoretically but am having trouble
> understanding how this works in reality.
>
> Could you provide a simple example of how you have 5 or
> more sources at the same time for any given piece of
> information? I really am struggling to grasp this.
>
> Maybe it would be something I could use if I knew how.
>
> Larry Lee
> ldlee...@gmail.com <mailto:a...@gmail.com>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 4:42 PM, CE WOOD
> mailto:wood...@msn.com>> wrote:
>
> It is SO wonderful to have the multiple source
> option  back! I have SCADS of times when I have
> found sources that document an event and have been
> SO frustrated at having to enter each source
> separately since Legacy removed the ability to apply
> multiple sources at the same time. Too many times,
> I have had to expend inordinate amounts of time and
> effort entering five (and even more) sources to an
> event for dozens of individuals!
>
> When you have multiple source that confirm an event,
> it is imperative to have the ability to enter all
> the sources at one time. Hours of effort and
> frustration saved.
>
> I am SO VERY glad Legacy has restored this much
>         needed function!
>
>
> CE
>
>
>  > From: whbosw...@gmail.com
> <mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com>
>  > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>  > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
>  > Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:03:44 -0500
>  >
>  > Thank you for explaining this because I was
> confused about applying five sources at once. I've
> never used this nor do I think I ever will. I do
> save some clipboard items then apply each of them as
> needed then delete them. This sounds like a feature
> that should have stayed gone. It sounds like an
> accident waiting to happen when someone
> inadvertently goes to apply what they think is one
> source then applies up to five.
>  >
>  > Bill Boswell
>  >
>  > -Original Message-
>  > From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com
> <mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com>]
>  > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:46 AM
>  > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>  > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
>  >
>  > Hi Kathy,
>  >
>  > I've never had five sources that I wanted to
> apply all at the same time to the same items of data!
>  >
>  > But assuming you did, you'd want to go into
> Customise > Sources and set
>  > 7.5 Clipboard capacity to "Allow up to five
> sources at once on the Source Clipboard".
>  >
>  > Then when you open the Source Clipboard, you will
> see "Source 1", "Source 2", etc. Set up the first
> source, then click on "Source 2" and set up the
> second one, and so on.
>  >
>  > When 

RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[Michele/Support]

I usually use this as I am cleaning up my file and I noticed that I forgot to 
source something (like I sourced one child but forgot the other).  You can fix 
the sources quicker if you can paste the multiple sources at one time.



Michele
Technical Support
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 5:28 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

On 13/01/2014 01:58, Michele/Support wrote:
> Here is an example.  Let’s say you are going to use multiple census
> records as a source for something.  You can put them all on the
> clipboard and paste them all at once.  An example of that is using
> multiple censuses to show the relationship of the children to the
> parents or the marriage of the parents.

If some people want to work that way, that's fine.  But it would never work for 
me.  I would never be finding all those Census records at the same time.  Once 
I've found a particular Source, say the first Census, I would enter all the 
details from that to everyone to whom it applied.
Then I might move on to another Source or look to find more people in the same 
Census.

I would never find information, put it on the Clipboard and then not use it 
until I had amassed a lot more - which I might never be able to do.
The nearest I do to "storing" a Source - if it's late at night, say, and I want 
to go to bed, or if I run out of time - is make a note of what I've found and I 
come back to it the next day and enter the information.

--
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[Larry Lee]

Ron,

You are correct that Legacy is responsive to the user base. Thank you
Millennia.

This topic is much like  Lumpers vs Splitters or Apple vs PC discussions
about the 'best' way to do things. It is apparent that there are two strong
camps and this thread has helped me determine which method I prefer to use.
That is what a User Group does.

This might make an interesting blog article for Geoff.

Larry Lee
 On Jan 13, 2014 4:09 AM, "Ron Ferguson"  wrote:

> I am not at all certain as to why this subject is being discussed ad
> infinitum.
>
> The fact is that when multiple sourcing was removed there were more
> complaints about this than anything else. A substantial number of the
> silent users arose unison to condemn the action.
>
> A perfect example of Legacy giving the users what they need.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[Ron Ferguson]

I am not at all certain as to why this subject is being discussed ad infinitum.

The fact is that when multiple sourcing was removed there were more complaints 
about this than anything else. A substantial number of the silent users arose 
unison to condemn the action.

A perfect example of Legacy giving the users what they need.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[Jenny M Benson]

On 13/01/2014 01:58, Michele/Support wrote:
> Here is an example.  Let’s say you are going to use multiple census
> records as a source for something.  You can put them all on the
> clipboard and paste them all at once.  An example of that is using
> multiple censuses to show the relationship of the children to the
> parents or the marriage of the parents.

If some people want to work that way, that's fine.  But it would never
work for me.  I would never be finding all those Census records at the
same time.  Once I've found a particular Source, say the first Census, I
would enter all the details from that to everyone to whom it applied.
Then I might move on to another Source or look to find more people in
the same Census.

I would never find information, put it on the Clipboard and then not use
it until I had amassed a lot more - which I might never be able to do.
The nearest I do to "storing" a Source - if it's late at night, say, and
I want to go to bed, or if I run out of time - is make a note of what
I've found and I come back to it the next day and enter the information.

--
Jenny M Benson



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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[Cathy Pinner]

Do calm down CE

I said I was glad it worked for you.

I've been learning about the medieval sources because of my friend's
work. I do understand they are different and the need to rely on
scholars who can study the difficult data available. I still wouldn't
enter more than one persons findings at a time.

BUT if it works for you - that's terrific.

Cathy

At 04:36 PM 13/01/2014, you wrote:
>Many of us are working with individuals for whom there are no censi,
>unless you count the Domesday Book, which is problematic because of
>several generations of aristocracy having the same name and living
>at the same time.
>
>If you don't work with mediaeval ancestors and with the historians
>whose lifework is researching the transfer of estates, the only
>reliable way to discern ancestry in instances too numerous to
>mention, you have no idea. Online databases, with several erudite
>exceptions, are a bunch of -, their sources being other totally
>false databases, too many of which are from the LDS, which does not
>verify sources of their databases. Too many of the databases that
>ancestry,com uses are no more than compilations of internet
>databases, meaning they are also totally inreliable. Their latest
>addition, the Wills from the Prerogative Court of Canterbury ALL
>have the wrong probate dates, easily determined because they have
>probate dates that are before the person even died! They don't use
>double-dating; their transcribers cannot even transcribe correctly
>when the documents are legible, and ancestry.com doesn't care, so
>they are NEVER a source.
>
>If you do not use the Testamenta Eboracensia, Testamenta Leodiensia,
>Testamenta Vetusta, Calendar of Close Rolls, Calendar of Fine Rolls,
>Inquisitions Miscellaneous, Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem,
>Calendar of Papal Registers,
>Calendarium Rotulorum Patentium, and other primary sources; if you
>do not use the epitome of secondary sources, The Complete Peerage,
>and follow the corrections that are continually being made to it,
>you may have no need whatsoever to ever enter more than one source
>at a time. Fine.
>
>But for those of us who have traced our ancestors back, we research
>thoroughly, and when we find these undisputed sources in agreement,
>want to enter them. It has been far too long that we have had to
>enter 5 or more sources INDIVIDUALLY for each event.
>
>If you never have a need to do so, you have no obligation to do so.
>But please, realize that many of us have been IMMENSELY
>inconvenienced during the time the multiple source clipboard was
>eliminated. To source one individual has taken often 6+ hours during
>its absence.
>
>There are probably many options you do not use. One of the great
>things about Legacy has always been that it has many options you may
>not need, but that others do. This is one of them.
>
>
>CE
>
> > From: genea...@gmail.com
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
> > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:56:07 +0800
> >
> > CE
> > Thanks for the list. I'll pass it on to a friend who is back to
> Medieval times.
> >
> > I agree that sometimes secondary sources are all
> > you have and you have to rely on the scholarly
> > work of others. Various medieval scholars
> > agreeing strengthens the argument. Quite
> > different from a number of Ancestry trees
> > agreeing and one being different. I'd give
> > serious consideration to the different one in
> > that case unless the others referred to a primary source.
> >
> > But I still don't get how I'd use multiple
> > clipboards. The way I work, I'd explore one
> > source at a time. I know enough from discussing
> > things with my friend, that sources like these
> > often don't agree and even some that do don't
> > make sense when the dates are looked at closely.
> >
> > When I started a branch of my family I had a
> > number of family trees from family members in
> > that branch. It was only by entering them one at
> > a time that I became aware of the differences
> > between them and was able to even ask the
> > relevant questions to find the most reliable and
> > seek primary sources. I recall I fleetingly
> > thought of using the multiple clipboards but soon
> > realised it would be far more time consuming for
> > me to do that. I think that was when I learnt that they all
> attach together.
> >
> > I'm glad it works for you. Different methods do
> > work for different people because we think differently.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Cathy
> >
> > At 12:0

RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[CE WOOD]

Many of us are working with individuals for whom there are no censi, unless you 
count the Domesday Book, which is problematic because of several generations of 
aristocracy having the same name and living at the same time.

If you don't work with mediaeval ancestors and with the historians whose 
lifework is researching the transfer of estates, the only reliable way to 
discern ancestry in instances too numerous to mention, you have no idea. Online 
databases, with several erudite exceptions, are a bunch of -, their sources 
being other totally false databases, too many of which are from the LDS, which 
does not verify sources of their databases. Too many of the databases that 
ancestry,com uses are no more than compilations of internet databases, meaning 
they are also totally inreliable. Their latest addition, the Wills from the 
Prerogative Court of Canterbury ALL have the wrong probate dates, easily 
determined because they have probate dates that are before the person even 
died! They don't use double-dating; their transcribers cannot even transcribe 
correctly when the documents are legible, and ancestry.com doesn't care, so 
they are NEVER a source.

If you do not use the Testamenta Eboracensia, Testamenta Leodiensia, Testamenta 
Vetusta, Calendar of Close Rolls, Calendar of Fine Rolls, Inquisitions 
Miscellaneous, Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem, Calendar of Papal 
Registers,
Calendarium Rotulorum Patentium, and other primary sources; if you do not use 
the epitome of secondary sources, The Complete Peerage, and follow the 
corrections that are continually being made to it, you may have no need 
whatsoever to ever enter more than one source at a time. Fine.

But for those of us who have traced our ancestors back, we research thoroughly, 
and when we find these undisputed sources in agreement, want to enter them. It 
has been far too long that we have had to enter 5 or more sources INDIVIDUALLY 
for each event.

If you never have a need to do so, you have no obligation to do so. But please, 
realize that many of us have been IMMENSELY inconvenienced during the time the 
multiple source clipboard was eliminated. To source one individual has taken 
often 6+ hours during its absence.

There are probably many options you do not use. One of the great things about 
Legacy has always been that it has many options you may not need, but that 
others do. This is one of them.


CE

> From: genea...@gmail.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:56:07 +0800
>
> CE
> Thanks for the list. I'll pass it on to a friend who is back to Medieval 
> times.
>
> I agree that sometimes secondary sources are all
> you have and you have to rely on the scholarly
> work of others. Various medieval scholars
> agreeing strengthens the argument. Quite
> different from a number of Ancestry trees
> agreeing and one being different. I'd give
> serious consideration to the different one in
> that case unless the others referred to a primary source.
>
> But I still don't get how I'd use multiple
> clipboards. The way I work, I'd explore one
> source at a time. I know enough from discussing
> things with my friend, that sources like these
> often don't agree and even some that do don't
> make sense when the dates are looked at closely.
>
> When I started a branch of my family I had a
> number of family trees from family members in
> that branch. It was only by entering them one at
> a time that I became aware of the differences
> between them and was able to even ask the
> relevant questions to find the most reliable and
> seek primary sources. I recall I fleetingly
> thought of using the multiple clipboards but soon
> realised it would be far more time consuming for
> me to do that. I think that was when I learnt that they all attach together.
>
> I'm glad it works for you. Different methods do
> work for different people because we think differently.
>
> Regards,
> Cathy
>
> At 12:06 PM 13/01/2014, you wrote:
> >Obviously you do not yet have mediaeval
> >ancestors in your file, for whom original
> >documents are mostly non-existent, confused by
> >persons with the same names and title living at
> >the same time, and for whom only RELIABLE
> >secondary sources are possible. For these MANY
> >people, having several of these RELIABLE
> >secondary sources agree on the facts is
> >essential to surety that the fact is correct, ie:
> >
> >Altschul, Michael, A Baronial Family in Medieval
> >England: The Clares, 1217-1314. Baltimore: John
> >Hopkins Press, 1965. Dana Library (Rutgers Newark) CS439.C6285.
> >
> >
> >
> >A concurrence of such RELIABLE secondary sources
> 

RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[Larry Lee]

Thanks Kirsty  those examples are helpful.

Larry Lee



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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[Kirsty M. Haining]

Here are a few examples where I have used multiple sources on the source 
clipboards (although very rarely do I need to use 5 at once):



(1)I used to use one citation for a particular Scottish census. More 
recently, I’ve realized that I need to be more exact as to where the 
information came from.  In a few instances, I have the actual image of the 
census that I got from ScotlandsPeople.  In some earlier instances, I have the 
transcription that was provided by FreeCEN. More recently, I have 
transcriptions done by Ancestry.com.  All of these different sources were 
referenced simply as “1841 Census of Scotland” but even though they refer to 
the same event, they are different sources.  And sometimes that difference is 
critical.  So… in fixing my census sources, I may have one, two, or even all 
three of those sources that were consulted in the course of my examination of 
this particular family.  So I load up all three on the clipboard and paste away 
as necessary to document the family.

(2)For a birth record in Scotland… I may have an old IGI record that came 
from transcribed parish records; I may have the new transcription from 
FamilySearch’s “Scottish Births and Baptisms” database; I may have the actual 
birth certificate from ScotlandsPeople.  I also have a generic record called 
“Birth Certificate” which simply means (to me), that I have a paper or digital 
copy of the original record (regardless of what agency created the 
certificate). So I may want to have all of these on the clipboard at once as I 
document a person (or a series of individuals from a family).  Now… do I need 
to document all these different sources?  That’s another question… and the 
answer may be no… but on the other hand… for someone tracking my work… it may 
be easier for them to get a hold of one of those sources than another.  And 
sometimes there’s a discrepancy … the transcribed record said one thing, the 
certificate says another.  In these cases, sometimes it’s faster to apply all 
five sources, and just simply delete the ones that don’t apply via the 
individual’s sources window.

(3)When I was new (and using a different genealogy program), it seemed too 
much effort to apply a particular source to every single fact that I had 
acquired from that source. So I made the stupid decision to simply apply the 
source to the person’s name.  Now that I’m wiser, I see it is important that I 
know that the birth dates, locations, marriage dates, nicknames, occupations, 
etc. also came from this source.  When I happen on these cases and am adding 
new sources to the person, I load up a copy of the old source from the name and 
paste away.  Again, sometimes it’s faster to apply multiple sources and delete 
an occasional source from a particular field than it would be to load up each 
of these sources individually and apply each one individually to all the places 
necessary in separate passes.



In sum, I find using multiple sources on the clipboards most useful when I’m 
fixing old mistakes.  I’ve found it faster sometimes to apply multiple sources 
once, and delete the occasional one that doesn’t belong rather than do each one 
in its own pass.  And, finally, once I’m done, I clean out all the other 
clipboards and re-set the main one to my default source.





From: Larry Lee [mailto:ldlee...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 4:09 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5



CE,



I am glad to know there is someone who uses this option and I understand it 
theoretically but am having trouble understanding how this works in reality.



Could you provide a simple example of how you have 5 or more sources at the 
same time for any given piece of information? I really am struggling to grasp 
this.



Maybe it would be something I could use if I knew how.




Larry Lee

ldlee...@gmail.com








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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[Cathy Pinner]

CE
Thanks for the list. I'll pass it on to a friend who is back to Medieval times.

I agree that sometimes secondary sources are all
you have and you have to rely on the scholarly
work of others. Various medieval scholars
agreeing strengthens the argument. Quite
different from a number of Ancestry trees
agreeing and one being different. I'd give
serious consideration to the different one in
that case unless the others referred to a primary source.

But I still don't get how I'd use multiple
clipboards. The way I work, I'd explore one
source at a time. I know enough from discussing
things with my friend, that sources like these
often don't agree and even some that do don't
make sense when the dates are looked at closely.

When I started a branch of my family I had a
number of family trees from family members in
that branch. It was only by entering them one at
a time that I became aware of the differences
between them and was able to even ask the
relevant questions to find the most reliable and
seek primary sources. I recall I fleetingly
thought of using the multiple clipboards but soon
realised it would be far more time consuming for
me to do that. I think that was when I learnt that they all attach together.

I'm glad it works for you. Different methods do
work for different people because we think differently.

Regards,
Cathy

At 12:06 PM 13/01/2014, you wrote:
>Obviously you do not yet have mediaeval
>ancestors in your file, for whom original
>documents are mostly non-existent, confused by
>persons with the same names and title living at
>the same time, and for whom only RELIABLE
>secondary sources are possible. For these MANY
>people, having several of these RELIABLE
>secondary sources agree on the facts is
>essential to surety that the fact is correct, ie:
>
>Altschul, Michael, A Baronial Family in Medieval
>England: The Clares, 1217-1314. Baltimore: John
>Hopkins Press, 1965. Dana Library (Rutgers Newark) CS439.C6285.
>
>
>
>A concurrence of such RELIABLE secondary sources
>os essential to have surety. It is essential to list them ALL.
>
>If you have only one source for an event, that
>is not a problem. But when, to verify events,
>you need have the concurrence of many RELIABLE
>sources, having to enter all of them each time
>is, often literally, a royal pain, and VERY time-consuming.
>
>Oh, yes, you need to make sure that you are
>attaching the correct clipboard. That obtains,
>no matter whether your clipboard contains one or
>five sources. But having to change clipboards 5
>times for each event for each of dozens of
>people is much more headache-producing than
>having to remember what you have on your clipboard.
>
>This is not a problem for you now, but you may
>yet find mediaeval ancestors, and find this an
>incredible time-saver/boon/welcome return.
>
>
>CE
>
>
> > From: genea...@gmail.com
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
> > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 11:17:28 +0800
> >
> > I'm among those who haven't found a use for
> > multiple source clipboards. When they existed
> > before I got tired of explaining to people that
> > they all attached at once as so many though only the front tab would.
> >
> > I can't imagine using multiple clipboards in this
> > way either, Michelle. I'd get a massive headache
> > and it would take far longer than doing them one
> > at a time. Different children are at home in
> > different censuses. Either the younger ones
> > aren't born or the older ones have left home.
> >
> > Besides, I would have entered it as the source
> > for relationship when I was entering the details
> > I'd learnt from the census if I was wanting to
> > source the relationship. A lot of my data entry
> > was done before we could source the relationship
> > and I was used to putting this information in for
> > the name of parents and child. Now I tend to only
> > specifically source the relationships for direct
> > line and for people where the relationship has been difficult to find.
> >
> > Any other examples?
> > Like Larry, I can't see any use at all for
> > multiple source clipboards which all attach at
> > once. On the other hand there is value in the
> > Load and Save option to keep some sources quickly
> > and easily accessible, with or without their current detail.
> >
> > Cathy
> >
> > At 09:58 AM 13/01/2014, you wrote:
> > >Here is an example. Let’s say you are going
> > >to use multiple census rs records as a source for
> > >something. You can put them all on the
> > >

RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[CE WOOD]

Obviously you do not yet have mediaeval ancestors in your file, for whom 
original documents are mostly non-existent, confused by persons with the same 
names and title living at the same time, and for whom only RELIABLE secondary 
sources are possible. For these MANY people, having several of these RELIABLE 
secondary sources agree on the facts is essential to surety that the fact is 
correct, ie:

Altschul, Michael, A Baronial Family in Medieval
England: The Clares, 1217-1314.  Baltimore: John Hopkins Press, 1965.
Dana Library (Rutgers Newark) CS439.C6285.

 Cokayne, George
Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain,
and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant.  Gloucester: A
Sutton, 1982.

 Holloway, Naomi D, The Genealogy of Mary
Wentworth, Who Became the Wife of William Brewster, Revised Edition,
October 1969.  LDS Film#1738313 item#5

 Keats-Rohan, K.S.B.,
Domesday Descendants, A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English
Documents 1066-1166. Vol II: Pipe Rolls to Cartae Baronum. Bury St
Edmunds, Suffolk: Boydell Press, 2002. NYPL ARF 03-4178 vol 2.
Corrections at
http://users.ox.ac.uk/~prosop/domesday-descendants-corrigenda.pdf


 Louda, Jiri, and Michael MacLagan, Heraldry of The Royal Families of
Europe. New York: Clarkson Potter, 1981.  Morris County Library
929.6094.

 Paget, Gerald, The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H.
Prince Charles, Prince of Wales.  London: Charles Skilton Ltd, 1977.
Nypl ARF+ 78-835.

 Pierce, Samuel, Mary WENTWORTH, in Society of
Mayflower Descendants in District of Columbus, Vol 1 #11, Sep 1968,
quoted in Walters, Patricia, WALTERS, HERMANN, and other related
families, unpublished manuscript of 23 vols., vol 15: AUSTIN/HARMON,
Film#1597556 item#4.

 Previte-Orton, C. W., The Shorter Cambridge Medieval History, Cambridge: 
University Press, 1952.  Chatham 940.1PRE.


 Redlich, Marcellus Donald R Von, Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor
Charlemagne's Descendants.  Order of the Crown of Charlemagne, 1941.

 Roberts, Gary Boyd, Ancestors of American Presidents, First Authoritative 
Edition.  Santa Clarita, CA: Carl Boyer, 1995.


 Roberts, Gary Boyd, The Royal Descents of 600 Immigrants to the
American Colonies or the United States: who were themselves notable or
left descendants notable in American history, with a 2008 Addendum,
Coda, and Final Additions. Baltimore, MD: Gen Pub Co, 2008. NYPL APK
08-4216.

 Sanders, I. J., English Baronies, A Study of Their Origin and Descent 
1086-1327.  Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960.


 Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur
Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. II: Die Ausserdeutschen
 Staaten Die Regierenden Hauser der Ubrigen Staaten Europas. Marburg:
Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1984.

 Schwennicke, Detlev, ed.,
Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen
Staaten, New Series. III.1 (#1-#200): Herzogs und Grafenhauser des
Heiligen Romischen Reiches Andere Europaische Furstenhauser. Marburg:
Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1984.

 Schwennicke, Detlev, ed.,
Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen
Staaten, New Series. III.2 (#201-#400): Nichtstandesgemasse und
Illegitime Nachkommen der Regierenden Hauser Europas. Marburg: Verlag
von J. A. Stargardt, 1983.

 Watney, Vernon James, The Wallop Family and their Ancestry, Oxford:John 
Johnson, 1928.  LDS Film#1696491 items 6-9.


 Weis, Frederick L, Magna Charta Sureties 1215: The Barons Named in the
Magna Charta and Some of Their Descendants. 4th Ed. Baltimore: Gen Pub
Co, 1991.

 Weis, Frederick Lewis, Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, David
Faris, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America
 before 1700, 7th Edition, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1992.

 Wurts, John S., Magna Charta: The Pedigrees of the Barons, Philadelphia, PA: 
Brookfield Publishing Co, 1942  A concurrence of such RELIABLE secondary 
sources os essential to have surety. It is essential to list them ALL.

If you have only one source for an event, that is not a problem. But when, to 
verify events, you need have the concurrence of many RELIABLE sources, having 
to enter all of them each time is, often literally, a royal pain, and VERY 
time-consuming.

Oh, yes, you need to make sure that you are attaching the correct clipboard. 
That obtains, no matter whether your clipboard contains one or five sources. 
But having to change clipboards 5 times for each event for each of dozens of 
people is much more headache-producing than having to remember what you have on 
your clipboard.

This is not a problem for you now, but you may yet find mediaeval ancestors, 
and find this an incredible time-saver/boon/welcome return.

CE


> From: genea...@gmail.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 11:17:28 +0800
>
> I'm among those who haven't found a use for
> multiple source clipboar

RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[Larry Lee]

Well I haven't gotten nearly that far and I still see no use for it so I
won't bother myself with it. Thanks to those who have answered my question.

Larry Lee
Sent from my Nook
On Jan 12, 2014 8:16 PM, "CE WOOD"  wrote:

> If you have any ancestors in the mediaeval era, you would not be asking
> this question.  It is essential.
>
>
> CE
>
> --
> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 17:08:54 -0700
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
> From: ldlee...@gmail.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>
> CE,
>
> I am glad to know there is someone who uses this option and I understand
> it theoretically but am having trouble understanding how this works in
> reality.
>
> Could you provide a simple example of how you have 5 or more sources at
> the same time for any given piece of information? I really am struggling to
> grasp this.
>
> Maybe it would be something I could use if I knew how.
>
> Larry Lee
> ldlee...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 4:42 PM, CE WOOD  wrote:
>
> It is SO wonderful to have the multiple source option  back! I have SCADS
> of times when I have found sources that document an event and have been SO
> frustrated at having to enter each source separately since Legacy removed
> the ability to apply multiple sources at the same time. Too many times,
> I have had to expend inordinate amounts of time and effort entering
> five (and even more) sources to an event for dozens of individuals!
>
> When you have multiple source that confirm an event, it is imperative to
> have the ability to enter all the sources at one time. Hours of effort and
> frustration saved.
>
> I am SO VERY glad Legacy has restored this much needed function!
>
>
> CE
>
>
> > From: whbosw...@gmail.com
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
> > Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:03:44 -0500
> >
> > Thank you for explaining this because I was confused about applying five
> sources at once. I've never used this nor do I think I ever will. I do save
> some clipboard items then apply each of them as needed then delete them.
> This sounds like a feature that should have stayed gone. It sounds like an
> accident waiting to happen when someone inadvertently goes to apply what
> they think is one source then applies up to five.
> >
> > Bill Boswell
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:46 AM
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
> >
> > Hi Kathy,
> >
> > I've never had five sources that I wanted to apply all at the same time
> to the same items of data!
> >
> > But assuming you did, you'd want to go into Customise > Sources and set
> > 7.5 Clipboard capacity to "Allow up to five sources at once on the
> Source Clipboard".
> >
> > Then when you open the Source Clipboard, you will see "Source 1",
> "Source 2", etc. Set up the first source, then click on "Source 2" and set
> up the second one, and so on.
> >
> > When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can
> then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your database.
> You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't pick and
> choose which one you'll use.
> >
> > Personally, I've not yet come across any situation where I'd find this
> useful - but I'm sure that day will come. When this option was removed a
> while back there were apparently many complaints, so it has been reinstated.
> >
> > If you don't want to see the five source tabs in the Source Clipboard,
> go to 7.5 Clipboard capacity and select "Only allow one source on the
> Source Clipboard" - that's the option I have selected for now, until such
> time as I find a need to apply more than one source at a time.
> >
> > Hope this helps. :-)
> >
> > Wendy
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[Cathy Pinner]

I'm among those who haven't found a use for
multiple source clipboards. When they existed
before I got tired of explaining to people that
they all attached at once as so many though only the front tab would.

I can't imagine using multiple clipboards in this
way either, Michelle. I'd get a massive headache
and it would take far longer than doing them one
at a time. Different children are at home in
different censuses. Either the younger ones
aren't born or the older ones have left home.

Besides, I would have entered it as the source
for relationship when I was entering the details
I'd learnt from the census if I was wanting to
source the relationship. A lot of my data entry
was done before we could source the relationship
and I was used to putting this information in for
the name of parents and child. Now I tend to only
specifically source the relationships for direct
line and for people where the relationship has been difficult to find.

Any other examples?
Like Larry, I can't see any use at all for
multiple source clipboards which all attach at
once. On the other hand there is value in the
Load and Save option to keep some sources quickly
and easily accessible, with or without their current detail.

Cathy

At 09:58 AM 13/01/2014, you wrote:
>Here is an example.  Let’s say you are going
>to use multiple census records as a source for
>something.  You can put them all on the
>clipboard and paste them all at once. Â An
>example of that is using multiple censuses to
>show the relationship of the children to the
>parents or the marriage of the parents.
>
>Michele
>Technical Support
><mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com>mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
>www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
>From: Larry Lee [mailto:ldlee...@gmail.com]
>Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 7:09 PM
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
>
>CE,
>
>I am glad to know there is someone who uses this
>option and I understand it theoretically but am
>having trouble understanding how this works in reality.
>
>Could you provide a simple example of how you
>have 5 or more sources at the same time for any
>given piece of information? I really am struggling to grasp this.
>
>Maybe it would be something I could use if I knew how.
>
>Larry Lee
>ldlee.<mailto:a...@gmail.com>a...@gmail.com
>
>
>On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 4:42 PM, CE WOOD
><<mailto:wood...@msn.com>wood...@msn.com> wrote:
>It is SO wonderful to have the multiple source
>option  back! I have SCADS of times when I have
>found sources that document an event and have
>been SO frustrated at having to enter each
>source separately since Legacy removed the
>ability to apply multiple sources at the same
>time. Too many times, I have had to expend
>inordinate amounts of time and effort entering
>five (and even more) sources to an event for dozens of individuals!
>
>When you have multiple source that confirm an
>event, it is imperative to have the ability to
>enter all the sources at one time. Hours of effort and frustration saved.
>
>I am SO VERY glad Legacy has restored this much needed function!
>
>
>CE
>
>
> > From: <mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com>whbosw...@gmail.com
> > To: <mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com>LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
> > Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:03:44 -0500
> >
> > Thank you for explaining this because I was
> confused about applying five sources at once.
> I've never used this nor do I think I ever
> will. I do save some clipboard items then apply
> each of them as needed then delete them. This
> sounds like a feature that should have stayed
> gone. It sounds like an accident waiting to
> happen when someone inadvertently goes to apply
> what they think is one source then applies up to five.
> >
> > Bill Boswell
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:46 AM
> > To: <mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com>LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
> >
> > Hi Kathy,
> >
> > I've never had five sources that I wanted to
> apply all at the same time to the same items of data!
> >
> > But assuming you did, you'd want to go into Customise > Sources and set
> > 7.5 Clipboard capacity to "Allow up to five
> sources at once on the Source Clipboard".
> >
> > Then when you open the Source Clipboard, you
> will see "Source 1", "Source 2", etc. Set up
> the first source, then click on "Source

RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[CE WOOD]

If you have any ancestors in the mediaeval era, you would not be asking this 
question.  It is essential.

CE

Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 17:08:54 -0700
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
From: ldlee...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

CE,

I am glad to know there is someone who uses this option and I understand it 
theoretically but am having trouble understanding how this works in reality.

Could you provide a simple example of how you have 5 or more sources at the 
same time for any given piece of information? I really am struggling to grasp 
this.

Maybe it would be something I could use if I knew how.
Larry leeldlee...@gmail.com





On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 4:42 PM, CE WOOD  wrote:




It is SO wonderful to have the multiple source option  back! I have SCADS of 
times when I have found sources that document an event and have been SO 
frustrated at having to enter each source separately since Legacy removed the 
ability to apply multiple sources at the same time. Too many times, I have had 
to expend inordinate amounts of time and effort entering five (and even more) 
sources to an event for dozens of individuals!


When you have multiple source that confirm an event, it is imperative to have 
the ability to enter all the sources at one time. Hours of effort and 
frustration saved.


I am SO VERY glad Legacy has restored this much needed function!


CE


> From: whbosw...@gmail.com

> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:03:44 -0500
>
> Thank you for explaining this because I was confused about applying five 
> sources at once.  I've never used this nor do I think I ever will.  I do save 
> some clipboard items then apply each of them as needed then delete them.  
> This sounds like a feature that should have stayed gone.  It sounds like an 
> accident waiting to happen when someone inadvertently goes to apply what they 
> think is one source then applies up to five.

>
> Bill Boswell
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:46 AM

> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
>
> Hi Kathy,
>
> I've never had five sources that I wanted to apply all at the same time to 
> the same items of data!

>
> But assuming you did, you'd want to go into Customise > Sources and set
> 7.5 Clipboard capacity to "Allow up to five sources at once on the Source 
> Clipboard".
>
> Then when you open the Source Clipboard, you will see "Source 1", "Source 2", 
> etc.  Set up the first source, then click on "Source 2" and set up the second 
> one, and so on.

>
> When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can then 
> apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your database.  You 
> can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't pick and choose 
> which one you'll use.

>
> Personally, I've not yet come across any situation where I'd find this useful 
> - but I'm sure that day will come.  When this option was removed a while back 
> there were apparently many complaints, so it has been reinstated.

>
> If you don't want to see the five source tabs in the Source Clipboard, go to 
> 7.5 Clipboard capacity and select "Only allow one source on the Source 
> Clipboard" - that's the option I have selected for now, until such time as I 
> find a need to apply more than one source at a time.

>
> Hope this helps.  :-)
>
> Wendy



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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[Michele/Support]

Here is an example.  Let’s say you are going to use multiple census records as 
a source for something.  You can put them all on the clipboard and paste them 
all at once.  An example of that is using multiple censuses to show the 
relationship of the children to the parents or the marriage of the parents.



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From: Larry Lee [mailto:ldlee...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 7:09 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5



CE,



I am glad to know there is someone who uses this option and I understand it 
theoretically but am having trouble understanding how this works in reality.



Could you provide a simple example of how you have 5 or more sources at the 
same time for any given piece of information? I really am struggling to grasp 
this.



Maybe it would be something I could use if I knew how.




Larry Lee

ldlee...@gmail.com <mailto:a...@gmail.com>





On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 4:42 PM, CE WOOD mailto:wood...@msn.com> > wrote:

It is SO wonderful to have the multiple source option  back! I have SCADS of 
times when I have found sources that document an event and have been SO 
frustrated at having to enter each source separately since Legacy removed the 
ability to apply multiple sources at the same time. Too many times, I have had 
to expend inordinate amounts of time and effort entering five (and even more) 
sources to an event for dozens of individuals!

When you have multiple source that confirm an event, it is imperative to have 
the ability to enter all the sources at one time. Hours of effort and 
frustration saved.

I am SO VERY glad Legacy has restored this much needed function!


CE



> From: whbosw...@gmail.com <mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com>
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com <mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com>
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:03:44 -0500
>
> Thank you for explaining this because I was confused about applying five 
> sources at once. I've never used this nor do I think I ever will. I do save 
> some clipboard items then apply each of them as needed then delete them. This 
> sounds like a feature that should have stayed gone. It sounds like an 
> accident waiting to happen when someone inadvertently goes to apply what they 
> think is one source then applies up to five.
>
> Bill Boswell
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com> ]
> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:46 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com <mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com>
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
>
> Hi Kathy,
>
> I've never had five sources that I wanted to apply all at the same time to 
> the same items of data!
>
> But assuming you did, you'd want to go into Customise > Sources and set
> 7.5 Clipboard capacity to "Allow up to five sources at once on the Source 
> Clipboard".
>
> Then when you open the Source Clipboard, you will see "Source 1", "Source 2", 
> etc. Set up the first source, then click on "Source 2" and set up the second 
> one, and so on.
>
> When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can then 
> apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your database. You can 
> only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't pick and choose which 
> one you'll use.
>
> Personally, I've not yet come across any situation where I'd find this useful 
> - but I'm sure that day will come. When this option was removed a while back 
> there were apparently many complaints, so it has been reinstated.
>
> If you don't want to see the five source tabs in the Source Clipboard, go to 
> 7.5 Clipboard capacity and select "Only allow one source on the Source 
> Clipboard" - that's the option I have selected for now, until such time as I 
> find a need to apply more than one source at a time.
>
> Hope this helps. :-)
>
> Wendy



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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[Jackie King]

Unfortuntely, that is exactly what I find a lot of people doing. It is
indicates the mentality that the more people who cite this particular
source, the more valuable it must be.

My point being is how many primary sources do you find for say a birth
record? Late enough you may have the actual certificate -you may have the
county register for that certificate, and you may have a bible reference.
But when it boils down to it - you have the certificate. Now you may have a
dozen books citiing that certificate and a ton of folks will cite all dozen
books - but those are secondary sources all citing the original certificate
or register. How many of those do you really need?



On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Larry Lee  wrote:

> Jackie,
>
> Even if you were to find 18 secondary sources that mention the same
> primary source you wouldn't find or even be working with all 18 at the same
> time would you? This is the part I am not understanding.
>
> Larry Lee
> ldlee...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Jackie King  wrote:
>
>> I understand how it works in theory - but since I find most of my
>> multiple sources all actually cite the same source (say 18 books that cite
>> the same original source), I find i use this very little since I prefer to
>> go back to the original source - and hopefully later be able to obtain the
>> documentation for myself.
>>
>> There may be times it is useful... I just haven't found it.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Larry Lee  wrote:
>>
>>> CE,
>>>
>>> I am glad to know there is someone who uses this option and I understand
>>> it theoretically but am having trouble understanding how this works in
>>> reality.
>>>
>>> Could you provide a simple example of how you have 5 or more sources at
>>> the same time for any given piece of information? I really am struggling to
>>> grasp this.
>>>
>>> Maybe it would be something I could use if I knew how.
>>>
>>> Larry Lee
>>> ldlee...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 4:42 PM, CE WOOD  wrote:
>>>
>>>> It is SO wonderful to have the multiple source option  back! I have
>>>> SCADS of times when I have found sources that document an event and
>>>> have been SO frustrated at having to enter each source separately since
>>>> Legacy removed the ability to apply multiple sources at the same time. Too
>>>> many times, I have had to expend inordinate amounts of time and
>>>> effort entering five (and even more) sources to an event for dozens of
>>>> individuals!
>>>>
>>>> When you have multiple source that confirm an event, it is imperative
>>>> to have the ability to enter all the sources at one time. Hours of effort
>>>> and frustration saved.
>>>>
>>>> I am SO VERY glad Legacy has restored this much needed function!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> CE
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > From: whbosw...@gmail.com
>>>> > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>>> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
>>>> > Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:03:44 -0500
>>>> >
>>>> > Thank you for explaining this because I was confused about applying
>>>> five sources at once. I've never used this nor do I think I ever will. I do
>>>> save some clipboard items then apply each of them as needed then delete
>>>> them. This sounds like a feature that should have stayed gone. It sounds
>>>> like an accident waiting to happen when someone inadvertently goes to apply
>>>> what they think is one source then applies up to five.
>>>> >
>>>> > Bill Boswell
>>>> >
>>>> > -Original Message-
>>>> > From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com]
>>>> > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:46 AM
>>>> > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>>> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi Kathy,
>>>> >
>>>> > I've never had five sources that I wanted to apply all at the same
>>>> time to the same items of data!
>>>> >
>>>> > But assuming you did, you'd want to go into Customise > Sources and
>>>> set
>>>> > 7.5 Clipboard capacity to "Allow up to five sources at once on the
>>>> Source Clipboard".
>

Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[Larry Lee]

Jackie,

Even if you were to find 18 secondary sources that mention the same primary
source you wouldn't find or even be working with all 18 at the same time
would you? This is the part I am not understanding.

Larry Lee
ldlee...@gmail.com



On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Jackie King  wrote:

> I understand how it works in theory - but since I find most of my multiple
> sources all actually cite the same source (say 18 books that cite the same
> original source), I find i use this very little since I prefer to go back
> to the original source - and hopefully later be able to obtain the
> documentation for myself.
>
> There may be times it is useful... I just haven't found it.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Larry Lee  wrote:
>
>> CE,
>>
>> I am glad to know there is someone who uses this option and I understand
>> it theoretically but am having trouble understanding how this works in
>> reality.
>>
>> Could you provide a simple example of how you have 5 or more sources at
>> the same time for any given piece of information? I really am struggling to
>> grasp this.
>>
>> Maybe it would be something I could use if I knew how.
>>
>> Larry Lee
>> ldlee...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 4:42 PM, CE WOOD  wrote:
>>
>>> It is SO wonderful to have the multiple source option  back! I have
>>> SCADS of times when I have found sources that document an event and
>>> have been SO frustrated at having to enter each source separately since
>>> Legacy removed the ability to apply multiple sources at the same time. Too
>>> many times, I have had to expend inordinate amounts of time and
>>> effort entering five (and even more) sources to an event for dozens of
>>> individuals!
>>>
>>> When you have multiple source that confirm an event, it is imperative to
>>> have the ability to enter all the sources at one time. Hours of effort and
>>> frustration saved.
>>>
>>> I am SO VERY glad Legacy has restored this much needed function!
>>>
>>>
>>> CE
>>>
>>>
>>> > From: whbosw...@gmail.com
>>> > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
>>> > Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:03:44 -0500
>>> >
>>> > Thank you for explaining this because I was confused about applying
>>> five sources at once. I've never used this nor do I think I ever will. I do
>>> save some clipboard items then apply each of them as needed then delete
>>> them. This sounds like a feature that should have stayed gone. It sounds
>>> like an accident waiting to happen when someone inadvertently goes to apply
>>> what they think is one source then applies up to five.
>>> >
>>> > Bill Boswell
>>> >
>>> > -Original Message-
>>> > From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com]
>>> > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:46 AM
>>> > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
>>> >
>>> > Hi Kathy,
>>> >
>>> > I've never had five sources that I wanted to apply all at the same
>>> time to the same items of data!
>>> >
>>> > But assuming you did, you'd want to go into Customise > Sources and set
>>> > 7.5 Clipboard capacity to "Allow up to five sources at once on the
>>> Source Clipboard".
>>> >
>>> > Then when you open the Source Clipboard, you will see "Source 1",
>>> "Source 2", etc. Set up the first source, then click on "Source 2" and set
>>> up the second one, and so on.
>>> >
>>> > When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can
>>> then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your database.
>>> You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't pick and
>>> choose which one you'll use.
>>> >
>>> > Personally, I've not yet come across any situation where I'd find this
>>> useful - but I'm sure that day will come. When this option was removed a
>>> while back there were apparently many complaints, so it has been reinstated.
>>> >
>>> > If you don't want to see the five source tabs in the Source Clipboard,
>>> go to 7.5 Clipboard capacity and select "Only allow one source on the
>>> Source Clipboard&

Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[Larry Lee]

Michelle,

See my last post to CE regarding an example of how this is used please.

Larry Lee
ldlee...@gmail.com



On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Michele/Support <
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> wrote:

> This feature was actually in Version 6.  I used it all the time and I was
> very sad when they didn’t include it in Version 7.5.  Needless to say, I am
> now very happy again :)
>
> Michele
> Technical Support
> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
> www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
> From: CE WOOD [mailto:wood...@msn.com]
> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 6:43 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
>
> It is SO wonderful to have the multiple source option  back! I have SCADS
> of times when I have found sources that document an event and have been SO
> frustrated at having to enter each source separately since Legacy removed
> the ability to apply multiple sources at the same time. Too many times, I
> have had to expend inordinate amounts of time and effort entering five (and
> even more) sources to an event for dozens of individuals!
>
> When you have multiple source that confirm an event, it is imperative to
> have the ability to enter all the sources at one time. Hours of effort and
> frustration saved.
>
> I am SO VERY glad Legacy has restored this much needed function!
>
>
> CE
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[Jackie King]

I understand how it works in theory - but since I find most of my multiple
sources all actually cite the same source (say 18 books that cite the same
original source), I find i use this very little since I prefer to go back
to the original source - and hopefully later be able to obtain the
documentation for myself.

There may be times it is useful... I just haven't found it.



On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Larry Lee  wrote:

> CE,
>
> I am glad to know there is someone who uses this option and I understand
> it theoretically but am having trouble understanding how this works in
> reality.
>
> Could you provide a simple example of how you have 5 or more sources at
> the same time for any given piece of information? I really am struggling to
> grasp this.
>
> Maybe it would be something I could use if I knew how.
>
> Larry Lee
> ldlee...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 4:42 PM, CE WOOD  wrote:
>
>> It is SO wonderful to have the multiple source option  back! I have SCADS
>> of times when I have found sources that document an event and have been SO
>> frustrated at having to enter each source separately since Legacy removed
>> the ability to apply multiple sources at the same time. Too many times,
>> I have had to expend inordinate amounts of time and effort entering
>> five (and even more) sources to an event for dozens of individuals!
>>
>> When you have multiple source that confirm an event, it is imperative to
>> have the ability to enter all the sources at one time. Hours of effort and
>> frustration saved.
>>
>> I am SO VERY glad Legacy has restored this much needed function!!!!!
>>
>>
>> CE
>>
>>
>> > From: whbosw...@gmail.com
>> > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
>> > Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:03:44 -0500
>> >
>> > Thank you for explaining this because I was confused about applying
>> five sources at once. I've never used this nor do I think I ever will. I do
>> save some clipboard items then apply each of them as needed then delete
>> them. This sounds like a feature that should have stayed gone. It sounds
>> like an accident waiting to happen when someone inadvertently goes to apply
>> what they think is one source then applies up to five.
>> >
>> > Bill Boswell
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:46 AM
>> > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
>> >
>> > Hi Kathy,
>> >
>> > I've never had five sources that I wanted to apply all at the same time
>> to the same items of data!
>> >
>> > But assuming you did, you'd want to go into Customise > Sources and set
>> > 7.5 Clipboard capacity to "Allow up to five sources at once on the
>> Source Clipboard".
>> >
>> > Then when you open the Source Clipboard, you will see "Source 1",
>> "Source 2", etc. Set up the first source, then click on "Source 2" and set
>> up the second one, and so on.
>> >
>> > When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can
>> then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your database.
>> You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't pick and
>> choose which one you'll use.
>> >
>> > Personally, I've not yet come across any situation where I'd find this
>> useful - but I'm sure that day will come. When this option was removed a
>> while back there were apparently many complaints, so it has been reinstated.
>> >
>> > If you don't want to see the five source tabs in the Source Clipboard,
>> go to 7.5 Clipboard capacity and select "Only allow one source on the
>> Source Clipboard" - that's the option I have selected for now, until such
>> time as I find a need to apply more than one source at a time.
>> >
>> > Hope this helps. :-)
>> >
>> > Wendy
>>
>>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[Michele/Support]

This feature was actually in Version 6.  I used it all the time and I was very 
sad when they didn’t include it in Version 7.5.  Needless to say, I am now very 
happy again :)

Michele
Technical Support
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

From: CE WOOD [mailto:wood...@msn.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 6:43 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

It is SO wonderful to have the multiple source option  back! I have SCADS of 
times when I have found sources that document an event and have been SO 
frustrated at having to enter each source separately since Legacy removed the 
ability to apply multiple sources at the same time. Too many times, I have had 
to expend inordinate amounts of time and effort entering five (and even more) 
sources to an event for dozens of individuals!

When you have multiple source that confirm an event, it is imperative to have 
the ability to enter all the sources at one time. Hours of effort and 
frustration saved.

I am SO VERY glad Legacy has restored this much needed function!


CE






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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[Larry Lee]

CE,

I am glad to know there is someone who uses this option and I understand it
theoretically but am having trouble understanding how this works in
reality.

Could you provide a simple example of how you have 5 or more sources at the
same time for any given piece of information? I really am struggling to
grasp this.

Maybe it would be something I could use if I knew how.

Larry Lee
ldlee...@gmail.com



On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 4:42 PM, CE WOOD  wrote:

> It is SO wonderful to have the multiple source option  back! I have SCADS
> of times when I have found sources that document an event and have been SO
> frustrated at having to enter each source separately since Legacy removed
> the ability to apply multiple sources at the same time. Too many times,
> I have had to expend inordinate amounts of time and effort entering
> five (and even more) sources to an event for dozens of individuals!
>
> When you have multiple source that confirm an event, it is imperative to
> have the ability to enter all the sources at one time. Hours of effort and
> frustration saved.
>
> I am SO VERY glad Legacy has restored this much needed function!
>
>
> CE
>
>
> > From: whbosw...@gmail.com
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
> > Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:03:44 -0500
> >
> > Thank you for explaining this because I was confused about applying five
> sources at once. I've never used this nor do I think I ever will. I do save
> some clipboard items then apply each of them as needed then delete them.
> This sounds like a feature that should have stayed gone. It sounds like an
> accident waiting to happen when someone inadvertently goes to apply what
> they think is one source then applies up to five.
> >
> > Bill Boswell
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:46 AM
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
> >
> > Hi Kathy,
> >
> > I've never had five sources that I wanted to apply all at the same time
> to the same items of data!
> >
> > But assuming you did, you'd want to go into Customise > Sources and set
> > 7.5 Clipboard capacity to "Allow up to five sources at once on the
> Source Clipboard".
> >
> > Then when you open the Source Clipboard, you will see "Source 1",
> "Source 2", etc. Set up the first source, then click on "Source 2" and set
> up the second one, and so on.
> >
> > When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can
> then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your database.
> You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't pick and
> choose which one you'll use.
> >
> > Personally, I've not yet come across any situation where I'd find this
> useful - but I'm sure that day will come. When this option was removed a
> while back there were apparently many complaints, so it has been reinstated.
> >
> > If you don't want to see the five source tabs in the Source Clipboard,
> go to 7.5 Clipboard capacity and select "Only allow one source on the
> Source Clipboard" - that's the option I have selected for now, until such
> time as I find a need to apply more than one source at a time.
> >
> > Hope this helps. :-)
> >
> > Wendy
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[Wendy Howard]

See?!  I knew there would be someone here who finds it useful.  ;-)
Thanks for letting us know how you use it, CE.

Wendy

CE WOOD said the following on 13/01/2014 12:42 p.m.:
> It is SO wonderful to have the multiple source option  back! I have
> SCADS of times when I have found sources that document an event and
> have been SO frustrated at having to enter each source separately
> since Legacy removed the ability to apply multiple sources at the same
> time. Too many times, I have had to expend inordinate amounts of time
> and effort entering five (and even more) sources to an event for
> dozens of individuals!
>
> When you have multiple source that confirm an event, it is imperative
> to have the ability to enter all the sources at one time. Hours
> of effort and frustration saved.
>
> I am SO VERY glad Legacy has restored this much needed function!
>
>
> CE
>
>
> > From: whbosw...@gmail.com
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
> > Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:03:44 -0500
> >
> > Thank you for explaining this because I was confused about applying
> five sources at once. I've never used this nor do I think I ever will.
> I do save some clipboard items then apply each of them as needed then
> delete them. This sounds like a feature that should have stayed gone.
> It sounds like an accident waiting to happen when someone
> inadvertently goes to apply what they think is one source then applies
> up to five.
> >
> > Bill Boswell
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:46 AM
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
> >
> > Hi Kathy,
> >
> > I've never had five sources that I wanted to apply all at the same
> time to the same items of data!
> >
> > But assuming you did, you'd want to go into Customise > Sources and set
> > 7.5 Clipboard capacity to "Allow up to five sources at once on the
> Source Clipboard".
> >
> > Then when you open the Source Clipboard, you will see "Source 1",
> "Source 2", etc. Set up the first source, then click on "Source 2" and
> set up the second one, and so on.
> >
> > When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can
> then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your
> database. You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you
> can't pick and choose which one you'll use.
> >
> > Personally, I've not yet come across any situation where I'd find
> this useful - but I'm sure that day will come. When this option was
> removed a while back there were apparently many complaints, so it has
> been reinstated.
> >
> > If you don't want to see the five source tabs in the Source
> Clipboard, go to 7.5 Clipboard capacity and select "Only allow one
> source on the Source Clipboard" - that's the option I have selected
> for now, until such time as I find a need to apply more than one
> source at a time.
> >
> > Hope this helps. :-)
> >
> > Wendy



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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[CE WOOD]

It is SO wonderful to have the multiple source option  back! I have SCADS of 
times when I have found sources that document an event and have been SO 
frustrated at having to enter each source separately since Legacy removed the 
ability to apply multiple sources at the same time. Too many times, I have had 
to expend inordinate amounts of time and effort entering five (and even more) 
sources to an event for dozens of individuals!

When you have multiple source that confirm an event, it is imperative to have 
the ability to enter all the sources at one time. Hours of effort and 
frustration saved.

I am SO VERY glad Legacy has restored this much needed function!

CE


> From: whbosw...@gmail.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:03:44 -0500
>
> Thank you for explaining this because I was confused about applying five 
> sources at once.  I've never used this nor do I think I ever will.  I do save 
> some clipboard items then apply each of them as needed then delete them.  
> This sounds like a feature that should have stayed gone.  It sounds like an 
> accident waiting to happen when someone inadvertently goes to apply what they 
> think is one source then applies up to five.
>
> Bill Boswell
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:46 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
>
> Hi Kathy,
>
> I've never had five sources that I wanted to apply all at the same time to 
> the same items of data!
>
> But assuming you did, you'd want to go into Customise > Sources and set
> 7.5 Clipboard capacity to "Allow up to five sources at once on the Source 
> Clipboard".
>
> Then when you open the Source Clipboard, you will see "Source 1", "Source 2", 
> etc.  Set up the first source, then click on "Source 2" and set up the second 
> one, and so on.
>
> When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can then 
> apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your database.  You 
> can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't pick and choose 
> which one you'll use.
>
> Personally, I've not yet come across any situation where I'd find this useful 
> - but I'm sure that day will come.  When this option was removed a while back 
> there were apparently many complaints, so it has been reinstated.
>
> If you don't want to see the five source tabs in the Source Clipboard, go to 
> 7.5 Clipboard capacity and select "Only allow one source on the Source 
> Clipboard" - that's the option I have selected for now, until such time as I 
> find a need to apply more than one source at a time.
>
> Hope this helps.  :-)
>
> Wendy


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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[Larry Lee]

Sorry. The previous email was sent while being drafted as a separate email
and was not yet meant for posting, although it somewhat applies. Please
disregard.

For some reason an unidentified key combination causes this to happen. I
even got a new wireless keyboard since I thought this was a function of my
laptop keyboard but it still happens. Very sporadic and unpredictable.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[Larry Lee]

Wendy,

I completely agree with William.post just gave me an inspiration!

I d not see why anyone would need 5 sources to be applied at one time
either. As this could lead to major problems for the 'average' user I think
this should be an opt-in option. With a popup warning  "Are you sure Y/N?

That wasn't the inspiration. It is: rather than saving 10 sources to the
clipboard how about selecting the ones desired from the Sources Master
List? Assuming that one would not be entering from 5 new sources at the
same time.

For the life of me I cannot fathom why one would EVER need to do this!


Larry Lee
ldlee...@gmail.com



On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Wendy Howard wrote:

> Don't forget that it is very quick to either reload a saved source, or
> copy an existing source to the Source Clipboard.
>
> I have some long projects going on, that I return to from time to time
> in-between other bits and pieces in the family tree.  Rather than
> setting up the Source Clipboard from scratch when I come back to a
> project, I recall the information from a previously-applied/saved
> source.  This ensures there are no differences that result in separate
> source citations where-ever possible.
>
> Usually, I go to someone in the tree where I've already entered data
> from the same source, and copy that source to the clipboard using the
> "Copy Source to Clipboard" icon in the bottom left-hand corner of the
> Assigned Sources window.  I then make any updates needed (usually just
> the recorded date changed to today), and it's ready to use.
>
> Alternately, I could have saved that source using the Save button in the
> bottom right-hand corner of the Source Clipboard window, and then used
> the Load button to retrieve it next time I wanted to use it.  This could
> be an answer to the situation Jenny described.
>
> I've saved one one of these long-project sources just now as I type, to
> check out how it works, and it's just as quick to load a saved source as
> it is to copy an existing source to the clipboard.  When I go to load
> that saved source back into the clipboard, I could assign it to any of
> the five source tabs I wanted to, if I was going to use more than one
> source at a time.
>
> William said in his post "This sounds like a feature that should have
> stayed gone. It sounds like an accident waiting to happen when someone
> inadvertently goes to apply what they think is one source then applies
> up to five."
>
> As I said before, I've never had a use for five sources all at the same
> time - but plenty of people here on this list have said they did when it
> was available before.  In this incarnation you have the option of
> showing one or five sources, which we didn't have before.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Wendy
>
>
> Kathy Thompson said the following on 13/01/2014 12:26 a.m.:
> > Thanks David, Wendy & Jenny.
> >
> > If all 5 are pasted at once, I'm not in favour of it afterall.
> >
> > I had hoped to be able to use the 5 sources selectively when entering
> > a newly found / newly source-proved family.
> >
> > Thanks for the explanations everyone.
> >
> >
> > On 12 January 2014 20:46, Jenny M Benson  > > wrote:
> >
> > On 12/01/2014 08:46, Wendy Howard wrote:
> > > When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you
> can
> > > then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your
> > > database.  You can only apply all the set-up sources together,
> > you can't
> > > pick and choose which one you'll use.
> >
> > Which is the only way this "multi-clipboard" feature would be of
> > any use
> > to me.
> >
> > Very often one is entering the details of a new-found family,
> > including
> > perhaps entries for BMDs from Indexes, and Census entries.  The same
> > Master Sources for every person, just differing in Detail.  Being
> able
> > to put several of these Sources on the Clipboard and then SELECTIVELY
> > paste them would be a bit time saver, but pasting all of them to each
> > person is just not required.
> >
> > --
> > Jenny M Benson
> >
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[Wendy Howard]

Don't forget that it is very quick to either reload a saved source, or
copy an existing source to the Source Clipboard.

I have some long projects going on, that I return to from time to time
in-between other bits and pieces in the family tree.  Rather than
setting up the Source Clipboard from scratch when I come back to a
project, I recall the information from a previously-applied/saved
source.  This ensures there are no differences that result in separate
source citations where-ever possible.

Usually, I go to someone in the tree where I've already entered data
from the same source, and copy that source to the clipboard using the
"Copy Source to Clipboard" icon in the bottom left-hand corner of the
Assigned Sources window.  I then make any updates needed (usually just
the recorded date changed to today), and it's ready to use.

Alternately, I could have saved that source using the Save button in the
bottom right-hand corner of the Source Clipboard window, and then used
the Load button to retrieve it next time I wanted to use it.  This could
be an answer to the situation Jenny described.

I've saved one one of these long-project sources just now as I type, to
check out how it works, and it's just as quick to load a saved source as
it is to copy an existing source to the clipboard.  When I go to load
that saved source back into the clipboard, I could assign it to any of
the five source tabs I wanted to, if I was going to use more than one
source at a time.

William said in his post "This sounds like a feature that should have
stayed gone. It sounds like an accident waiting to happen when someone
inadvertently goes to apply what they think is one source then applies
up to five."

As I said before, I've never had a use for five sources all at the same
time - but plenty of people here on this list have said they did when it
was available before.  In this incarnation you have the option of
showing one or five sources, which we didn't have before.

Kind Regards,
Wendy


Kathy Thompson said the following on 13/01/2014 12:26 a.m.:
> Thanks David, Wendy & Jenny.
>
> If all 5 are pasted at once, I'm not in favour of it afterall.
>
> I had hoped to be able to use the 5 sources selectively when entering
> a newly found / newly source-proved family.
>
> Thanks for the explanations everyone.
>
>
> On 12 January 2014 20:46, Jenny M Benson  > wrote:
>
> On 12/01/2014 08:46, Wendy Howard wrote:
> > When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can
> > then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your
> > database.  You can only apply all the set-up sources together,
> you can't
> > pick and choose which one you'll use.
>
> Which is the only way this "multi-clipboard" feature would be of
> any use
> to me.
>
> Very often one is entering the details of a new-found family,
> including
> perhaps entries for BMDs from Indexes, and Census entries.  The same
> Master Sources for every person, just differing in Detail.  Being able
> to put several of these Sources on the Clipboard and then SELECTIVELY
> paste them would be a bit time saver, but pasting all of them to each
> person is just not required.
>
> --
> Jenny M Benson
>



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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[William Boswell]

Thank you for explaining this because I was confused about applying five 
sources at once.  I've never used this nor do I think I ever will.  I do save 
some clipboard items then apply each of them as needed then delete them.  This 
sounds like a feature that should have stayed gone.  It sounds like an accident 
waiting to happen when someone inadvertently goes to apply what they think is 
one source then applies up to five.

Bill Boswell

-Original Message-
From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:46 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

Hi Kathy,

I've never had five sources that I wanted to apply all at the same time to the 
same items of data!

But assuming you did, you'd want to go into Customise > Sources and set
7.5 Clipboard capacity to "Allow up to five sources at once on the Source 
Clipboard".

Then when you open the Source Clipboard, you will see "Source 1", "Source 2", 
etc.  Set up the first source, then click on "Source 2" and set up the second 
one, and so on.

When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can then apply 
those sources to any item of data you enter into your database.  You can only 
apply all the set-up sources together, you can't pick and choose which one 
you'll use.

Personally, I've not yet come across any situation where I'd find this useful - 
but I'm sure that day will come.  When this option was removed a while back 
there were apparently many complaints, so it has been reinstated.

If you don't want to see the five source tabs in the Source Clipboard, go to 
7.5 Clipboard capacity and select "Only allow one source on the Source 
Clipboard" - that's the option I have selected for now, until such time as I 
find a need to apply more than one source at a time.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy





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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[Kathy Thompson]

I'll give that a go, thanks David


On 12 January 2014 21:31, David Newton  wrote:

> Kathy
>
> Using the Source Clipboard is not the way. Use the Save and Name option
> and that will allow selective pasting from up to 10 sources.
>
> David
>
> On 12/01/2014 11:26, Kathy Thompson wrote:
> > Thanks David, Wendy & Jenny.
> >
> > If all 5 are pasted at once, I'm not in favour of it afterall.
> >
> > I had hoped to be able to use the 5 sources selectively when entering a
> > newly found / newly source-proved family.
> >
> > Thanks for the explanations everyone.
> >
> >
> > On 12 January 2014 20:46, Jenny M Benson  > > wrote:
> >
> > On 12/01/2014 08:46, Wendy Howard wrote:
> >  > When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you
> can
> >  > then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your
> >  > database.  You can only apply all the set-up sources together,
> > you can't
> >  > pick and choose which one you'll use.
> >
> > Which is the only way this "multi-clipboard" feature would be of any
> use
> > to me.
> >
> > Very often one is entering the details of a new-found family,
> including
> > perhaps entries for BMDs from Indexes, and Census entries.  The same
> > Master Sources for every person, just differing in Detail.  Being
> able
> > to put several of these Sources on the Clipboard and then SELECTIVELY
> > paste them would be a bit time saver, but pasting all of them to each
> > person is just not required.
> >
> > --
> > Jenny M Benson
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[David Newton]

Kathy

Using the Source Clipboard is not the way. Use the Save and Name option
and that will allow selective pasting from up to 10 sources.

David

On 12/01/2014 11:26, Kathy Thompson wrote:
> Thanks David, Wendy & Jenny.
>
> If all 5 are pasted at once, I'm not in favour of it afterall.
>
> I had hoped to be able to use the 5 sources selectively when entering a
> newly found / newly source-proved family.
>
> Thanks for the explanations everyone.
>
>
> On 12 January 2014 20:46, Jenny M Benson  > wrote:
>
> On 12/01/2014 08:46, Wendy Howard wrote:
>  > When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can
>  > then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your
>  > database.  You can only apply all the set-up sources together,
> you can't
>  > pick and choose which one you'll use.
>
> Which is the only way this "multi-clipboard" feature would be of any use
> to me.
>
> Very often one is entering the details of a new-found family, including
> perhaps entries for BMDs from Indexes, and Census entries.  The same
> Master Sources for every person, just differing in Detail.  Being able
> to put several of these Sources on the Clipboard and then SELECTIVELY
> paste them would be a bit time saver, but pasting all of them to each
> person is just not required.
>
> --
> Jenny M Benson
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[Kathy Thompson]

Thanks David, Wendy & Jenny.

If all 5 are pasted at once, I'm not in favour of it afterall.

I had hoped to be able to use the 5 sources selectively when entering a
newly found / newly source-proved family.

Thanks for the explanations everyone.


On 12 January 2014 20:46, Jenny M Benson  wrote:

> On 12/01/2014 08:46, Wendy Howard wrote:
> > When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can
> > then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your
> > database.  You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't
> > pick and choose which one you'll use.
>
> Which is the only way this "multi-clipboard" feature would be of any use
> to me.
>
> Very often one is entering the details of a new-found family, including
> perhaps entries for BMDs from Indexes, and Census entries.  The same
> Master Sources for every person, just differing in Detail.  Being able
> to put several of these Sources on the Clipboard and then SELECTIVELY
> paste them would be a bit time saver, but pasting all of them to each
> person is just not required.
>
> --
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[Jenny M Benson]

On 12/01/2014 08:46, Wendy Howard wrote:
> When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can
> then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your
> database.  You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't
> pick and choose which one you'll use.

Which is the only way this "multi-clipboard" feature would be of any use
to me.

Very often one is entering the details of a new-found family, including
perhaps entries for BMDs from Indexes, and Census entries.  The same
Master Sources for every person, just differing in Detail.  Being able
to put several of these Sources on the Clipboard and then SELECTIVELY
paste them would be a bit time saver, but pasting all of them to each
person is just not required.

--
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[David Newton]

The Source clipboard has slightly odd behaviour, For example select a
citation and copy it to the clipboard, overwriting if necessary. Open
the source clipboard (set up for 5 sources) and the first tab, Source 1,
contains your citation. At the bottom of the clipboard there is a right
facing arrow. Click it to move Source 1 into the Source 2 position. This
moves the master source and the Detail Information but not the
Text/Comments, which is a bit strange, however, it does load the Source
2 tab with a master source. This can be repeated until all 5 tabs are
filled. What you do with them after that I do not know.

A more useful option, in my opinion, is the Save and Name option at the
bottom right of the source clipboard. You can ssve up to 10 citations
with your own names.

Having saved them then they can be used from the Assigned Sources screen
by right clicking on the source clipboard icon, choose one of the list
to load into the source clipboard (first position) and then the usual
paste icon will paste that citation.


David


On 12/01/2014 08:46, Wendy Howard wrote:
> Hi Kathy,
>
> I've never had five sources that I wanted to apply all at the same time
> to the same items of data!
>
> But assuming you did, you'd want to go into Customise > Sources and set
> 7.5 Clipboard capacity to "Allow up to five sources at once on the
> Source Clipboard".
>
> Then when you open the Source Clipboard, you will see "Source 1",
> "Source 2", etc.  Set up the first source, then click on "Source 2" and
> set up the second one, and so on.
>
> When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can
> then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your
> database.  You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't
> pick and choose which one you'll use.
>
> Personally, I've not yet come across any situation where I'd find this
> useful - but I'm sure that day will come.  When this option was removed
> a while back there were apparently many complaints, so it has been
> reinstated.
>
> If you don't want to see the five source tabs in the Source Clipboard,
> go to 7.5 Clipboard capacity and select "Only allow one source on the
> Source Clipboard" - that's the option I have selected for now, until
> such time as I find a need to apply more than one source at a time.
>
> Hope this helps.  :-)
>
> Wendy
>
> Kathy Thompson said the following on 12/01/2014 8:45 p.m.:
>> I've searched the help files, I can't see the answer.
>>
>> Can someone Please explain to me How to use the 5 different Source
>> clipboards?
>> I can't even work out how to get more than one source on there at this
>> point.
>>
>> In that explanation, please tell me if all 5 clipboards get pasted at
>> once, or if only the "active" on top clipboard gets pasted.
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[Ron Ferguson]

Mike

The last sentence of my previous post should read "not equal to" blank DO it

Ron Ferguson
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Ron Ferguson  wrote:

>Mike,
>
>Does the Search>Find allow one to use "not equal to" as the search criteria?
>
>If so, since the OP wishes all to be replaced wouldn't "not equal to" blank to 
>it?
>
>(not on my PC)
>
>Ron Ferguson
>http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
>Kathy Thompson  wrote:
>
>>I've searched the help files, I can't see the answer.
>>
>>Can someone Please explain to me How to use the 5 different Source
>>clipboards?
>>I can't even work out how to get more than one source on there at this
>>point.
>>
>>In that explanation, please tell me if all 5 clipboards get pasted at once,
>>or if only the "active" on top clipboard gets pasted.
>>
>>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[Ron Ferguson]

Mike,

Does the Search>Find allow one to use "not equal to" as the search criteria?

If so, since the OP wishes all to be replaced wouldn't "not equal to" blank to 
it?

(not on my PC)

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

Kathy Thompson  wrote:

>I've searched the help files, I can't see the answer.
>
>Can someone Please explain to me How to use the 5 different Source
>clipboards?
>I can't even work out how to get more than one source on there at this
>point.
>
>In that explanation, please tell me if all 5 clipboards get pasted at once,
>or if only the "active" on top clipboard gets pasted.
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Kathy,

I've never had five sources that I wanted to apply all at the same time
to the same items of data!

But assuming you did, you'd want to go into Customise > Sources and set
7.5 Clipboard capacity to "Allow up to five sources at once on the
Source Clipboard".

Then when you open the Source Clipboard, you will see "Source 1",
"Source 2", etc.  Set up the first source, then click on "Source 2" and
set up the second one, and so on.

When you've set up as many sources (up to five) as you need, you can
then apply those sources to any item of data you enter into your
database.  You can only apply all the set-up sources together, you can't
pick and choose which one you'll use.

Personally, I've not yet come across any situation where I'd find this
useful - but I'm sure that day will come.  When this option was removed
a while back there were apparently many complaints, so it has been
reinstated.

If you don't want to see the five source tabs in the Source Clipboard,
go to 7.5 Clipboard capacity and select "Only allow one source on the
Source Clipboard" - that's the option I have selected for now, until
such time as I find a need to apply more than one source at a time.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy

Kathy Thompson said the following on 12/01/2014 8:45 p.m.:
> I've searched the help files, I can't see the answer.
>
> Can someone Please explain to me How to use the 5 different Source
> clipboards?
> I can't even work out how to get more than one source on there at this
> point.
>
> In that explanation, please tell me if all 5 clipboards get pasted at
> once, or if only the "active" on top clipboard gets pasted.



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