Re: linux telephone apps
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 01:45 am, dep wrote: greets, folks . . . having endured a *way* too big phone bill this month, most of it long-distance stuff with other linux users and some of it long-distance with windows users who have high-speed connections, i'm looking for a better approach. six or seven years ago i played with some windows and OS/2 apps which let people do telephone over the internet. i'm trying to get a sense of the current state of that technology, with an eye toward setting it up here on the linux box. anybody here have any experience with it? Try SIPPS works fine on mine. http://www.sippstar.com -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT: Here we go again ...
I am sending this to both lists due to the discussion not moving to 'general' where it shouild be by now. Doubtless Doug will step in shortly and wield the stick, or will Meinherr Kurt enbolden himself: befelen ist befelen grin. Being that I am an Australian 'looking in', I think the term SS was a misnomer and an ill advised usage. If we are to equate apples with apples then the Geheimstatzpolitzi : Gestapo would be a better choice of words. However most internal intelligence agencies then and now: again wartime abwer (the spelling is incorrect but the memory is faulty) was a nearer example to MI6, CIA and NSA than any other german organisation. I am sure as Alma says that you would know the difference if you had the Satzi or Gestapo instead of what you do have. Yes we do have a sort of 'Big Brother' system looking over our shoulders these days, but no one, as far as I know, sees friends or relatives disappear overnight, not to be seen ever again. Mind you I am also sure that in both the US and UK, it could be arranged it the right political atmosphere was present. It is up to each and everyone to make sure it does not. With what I see on TV: that which is fed to us is mostly what the estabishment both wants us to see and act on (propaganda). The recent Iraqi incident, the lead up to it and the brave poiticians (sheep) who followed: Australia and the UK are as much to blame for the outcome as is The Bush administration. Again as Alma said, she is scared: that is exactly what the politicians and the terrorists want us to be, so as we can be controlled/cajoled. From the age of 6 to 22 I was either bombed, shot at, ordered to kill or be mindless. I left the UK because I was sick of all that. Now I have no fear of terrorism and have nothing but contempt for politicians and government. The intelligence services have been self serving in the past and I cannot see them changing now, no matter what name they have. Having typed all that 'bilge water' my arthritis is not giving me hell in both shoulders, my fingers are tired, as for my [EMAIL PROTECTED]^%(*^) @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@^ (noise) -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: A contented linux user
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 02:34 am, Collins Richey wrote: [ snips ] On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 09:50:49 -0400 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OT_RANTI can't help but compare this situation to the drug industry. We Americans pay more for pharmaceuticals because we respect copyright laws ... This can't go on, and already Americans are finding out ways to buy cheaper drugs from Canada. This will of course lead to fundelmental changes in the pharmaceutical industry, that is to say, a lot less drug research and a lot fewer new drugs. /OT_RANT Wrong, in true American fashion, this will only lead to new draconian laws that make it highly illegal for Americans to purchase cheaper drugs from abroad. The American drug companies will be protected at all costs. And the said drug companies will/do dump those drugs that are declared unsafe in the US on other unsuspecting countries. There are some great examples in Oz at the moment I am informed. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: 2.6-test5 problem
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 10:44 am, Bruce Marshall wrote: Thanks for the tips...What I just tried (and it's working so far) is to go back to 'make mrproper' and after adding in XFS and EXT3 and making sure the cpu was set properly, I just compiled the damn thing. Lots of stuff missing but at least it is booting and I can slowly tweak it to see where it breaks. But that's progressIt may be that I missed some of the cpu options on the first go-around when I saw that it correctly set the cpu type to P4. I read somewhere in the docs etc for 2.5/2.6 that one no longer calls make mrproper or make dep. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: net radio
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:36 am, Tim Wunder wrote: On Thursday 11 September 2003 5:09 pm, someone claiming to be Keith Antoine wrote: On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 05:59 am, Bill Davidson wrote: On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 09:42:13 -0700 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone found good sources of internet radio that work in mozilla? Many that I have tried use a url including playlist=... which opens to a blank window. http://www.shoutcast.com Bill My mozilla says it does not know what to do with the file. version 1.5 beta. Just tell it to open with /usr/bin/xmms WFM... MozillaFirebird 0.6.1 Tim That did it, ta! -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: net radio
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:08 pm, Bill Davidson wrote: r On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 07:09:23 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 05:59 am, Bill Davidson wrote: On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 09:42:13 -0700 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone found good sources of internet radio that work in mozilla? Many that I have tried use a url including playlist=... which opens to a blank window. http://www.shoutcast.com Bill My mozilla says it does not know what to do with the file. version 1.5 beta. You need to tell mozilla what to do with it. I use xmms. Bill That dorked. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: net radio
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 05:59 am, Bill Davidson wrote: On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 09:42:13 -0700 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone found good sources of internet radio that work in mozilla? Many that I have tried use a url including playlist=... which opens to a blank window. http://www.shoutcast.com Bill My mozilla says it does not know what to do with the file. version 1.5 beta. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
another nail ?
EWEEK: ENTERPRISE LINUX VS SERVER 2003 : SMACKDOWN! What's this? People whining about the cost of serious Linux enterprise use? Folks get real? Have you priced Microsoft Server 2003 lately...? COMPLETE STORY: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1238672,00.asp -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Why all this- Undeliverable Mail
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 11:11 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Keith Antoine shocked and awed us all by speaking: Doug, I am getting virii sent to me, I have actually lost count of how many times I have received a copy. All I seem to be doing at the moment is deleting mail. you're getting actual copies of the virus from this list? if so, we need to look into this asap BTW, they do seem to have stopped as of today will let you know if they continue, but yes they came from the list. I am only getting undelivered mail notices now via the list, however that has dropped to 4 today. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Why all this- Undeliverable Mail
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 03:45 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tim Wunder shocked and awed us all by speaking: I suspect we're all getting them and I'm hoping the powers that be are doing what they can to eliminate the problem. I suspect it's non-trivial, or it woulda been fixed by now... are you guys actually getting the virus or just notices that a virus was caught? Doug, I am getting virii sent to me, I have actually lost count of how many times I have received a copy. All I seem to be doing at the moment is deleting mail. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What the hell is going on - SOBIG.F
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 05:37 am, Gerry Doris wrote: Well, I guess if no one else has been seeing all these virii then the infected system(s) picked up my email address and is using the list as the source. No you are NOT the only one as i am inundated with UMCx messages from this list plus uUndelivered mail notices. I also got 3 SOBIG-F virii as well and I am also slightly pissed off that the list is letting over 24 messages slip by. If I was and could be in windows I would be infected, maybe! It has only happened with the Sobig virus and i am guessing that the virus scanner being used is not doing its job. I also am seeing messages to other people that the list seems to n be letting through. VACATION Kaycy Martin in particular. It just seems that things have gone haywire over the past few days. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Test
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:44 am, burns wrote: Test, over Hell, I did not even know it had begun! Waht was I tested for? -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Test
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 12:54 pm, burns wrote: On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 21:41, Keith Antoine wrote: On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:44 am, burns wrote: Test, over Hell, I did not even know it had begun! Waht was I tested for? sexually transmitted diseases. You failed and now will have to study much harder for the re-test. Thats no bloody good, I lost the instruction sheet. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: French Sobig emails
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:32 pm, Shawn Tayler wrote: Hi Guys, Has anyone on the list been getting supposed bounced emails from an MS MUA that contain the Sobig virus the past 24hrs? Shawn Yes I did, via this list g. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT To all New Zealand SxS members
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 09:27 am, Collins Richey wrote: SNIP 1) People like to build in areas that look pretty and green without any thought given to what might happen when it's all ablaze. In the case of towns, the decisions were made decades or centuries ago. 2) Environmentalists are usually opposed to any efforts to thin the forests and remove dead fuel in aging forests near populated areas. The standard argument: Forest management is just clearcutting, but if nature is doing the clearing, that's aok. People who might suffer aren't extremely important. 3) All of the above leaves the way open for arsonists and/or careless people to trigger a disaster. A few of the people who live in the foothills communities west of Denver are now starting to prepare themselves by clearing around their homes and removing excess downed timber. This is very much what happens in OZ. There are certain places on this earth where fire is a natural environmental rejuvinator; there are trees and shrubs here that need fire to germinate. So Oz is a place where big fires can and do occur. Yet if there is no fire for a while its DEVELOPED, and people start living there: short term memory is naon existant. Last but not least are the pollies and of course the greenies and arsonists. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT To all New Zealand SxS members
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 06:18 pm, Ted Ozolins wrote: Myles Green wrote: The one thing we Americans and Canadians have in common, besides the language, is the best politicians money can buy. They all suck. Amen to that! Over three hundred homes were lost to this fire last night! The officials that fumbled and bungled this should be taken out and shot. Starting with the highly incompetent premier. Good grief, if I repaired and calibrated scopes and other test equipment as they administer their duties to this province, I would not only be fired, Id probably be black-listed. You can bet that I'll be actively canvassing the victims of this mess urging them to launch a class action suit against these twits. There, now I feel better guess I should get a cup of javaG If you remember this was exactly a mirror that happened to Canberra (ACT), earlier this year in a firestorm. The subsequent inquiry; guess you will have one too, blamed total lack of communication plus complacency. In the event it is the small guy that gets hit; I'm all right jack syndrome. BTW was there loss of life or did they ALL get away in time. It does seem co-incidental that both continents seem to swap fire hazzard, again is arson part of it too as with us. Mind you Europe copped it this time as well and the death toll was bigger that we ever had. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: backing up windows
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 04:51 am, Michael Hipp wrote: Since, IIRC, Outlook, Outlook Express, and Internet Explorer are reported to run near perfectly in Wine (or Crossover Office), it would be prudent to assume a virus would have access to all the right facilities to run as normal. But I'm speculating alot. It does, however, severely call into question our never ending efforts to be able to run Windows apps on Linux (VMWare, Win4Lin, Wine). Even if you only let half the camel into the tent, it still makes life in the tent alot worse. Michael Especially the smell. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT To all New Zealand SxS members
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:41 am, Harry Giles wrote: I remember seeing posts from folks in New Zealand. I hope things are OK. If you can, give a shout and let us know. For the rest of us, New Zealand had a major earthquake today. See http://xtramsn.co.nz/news/0,,3882-2605126,00.html Harry G FYI, NZ is not far from Oz mainland and my daughter has lived there for some years. The kiwis live with tremors and quakes its very normal to them, but not Oz as we are just far enough away. NZ is know as the land of the long white cloud, or also 'shaky ??' which alludes to all the trmors etc. Fjiordland, where this one was epicentred is very sparsly populated and a national park, secondly its on the South Island which is mostly moutainous. We here in Oz have only heard about it in passing so it cannot be real FYI-http://www.backpack-newzealand.com/mapofnewzealand.html Its right down low on the L/H side Milford Sound/Te Anau the green bit to the left of Te Anau -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: backing up windows
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:34 am, Ian Stephen wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 01:03, Keith Antoine wrote: snip free cd's, included 'Ext2FS Anywhere 2,5'. It had some blurb about being able to see linux partitions and files from windows. I thought that this was one of those windows hacks, but decided to give it a try. Lo and behold it managed to find and mount the partitions I wished to see : i.e /home /backup /build etc. I can transfer files back and forth just as I can from a linux booted system. snip Skippy Will this new toy enable Windows viruses to attack Linux partitions on a dual-boot machine, or Linux machines on a mixed-platform network? NO way! Windows files are not executable on Linux, so it is immune to win viruii, this is one of the reasons I use linux. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: backing up windows
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 03:31 pm, Ian Stephen wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 20:41, Keith Antoine wrote: free cd's, included 'Ext2FS Anywhere 2,5'. snip I can transfer files back and forth just as I can from a linux booted system. snip NO way! Windows files are not executable on Linux, so it is immune to win viruii, this is one of the reasons I use linux. My concern is that the code will execute on Windows and use this Ext2FS to access Linux and do something nasty there. If my dual-boot machine is running Windows (rare, but it happens) and something infected Windows that can read/write the Linux partitions... couldn't that thing have its way with my Linux stuff while the penquin is 'asleep'? It has to be on windows and windows running for anything to execute. If its on linux and its not running then its dormant. Even so if its on linux it needs to execute, but it cannot do so because the system is not compatible. It cannot jump across OS's without you physicallyy doing that operation. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT To all New Zealand SxS members
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 06:08 am, burns wrote: On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 00:03, Keith Antoine wrote: Hi mate! Hi Skip!! Like old times. Yeh, mate, thought you might have fallen off the edge of the planet for a while there. BTW re NZ, They did feel it in Sydney at about 3 on the scale. There were no injuries afaik in nz from it just mostly lost stock in shops and a big fright for a 7.1 that was very good. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
backing up windows
I have just had an answer to my exhortations to Zeus! A national PC mag which has for a while been putting in some linux software on its free cd's, included 'Ext2FS Anywhere 2,5'. It had some blurb about being able to see linux partitions and files from windows. I thought that this was one of those windows hacks, but decided to give it a try. Lo and behold it managed to find and mount the partitions I wished to see : i.e /home /backup /build etc. I can transfer files back and forth just as I can from a linux booted system. So I now have the ability to do backups from windows partitions to linux partitions. What I would like is reccomendations for a win backup program that can be automated and made to save to a particular destination. Skippy ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: backing up windows
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 02:43 am, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: Keith Antoine wrote: I have just had an answer to my exhortations to Zeus! A national PC mag which has for a while been putting in some linux software on its free cd's, included 'Ext2FS Anywhere 2,5'. It had some blurb about being able to see linux partitions and files from windows. I thought that this was one of those windows hacks, but decided to give it a try. Lo and behold it managed to find and mount the partitions I wished to see i.e /home /backup /build etc. I can transfer files back and forth just as I can from a linux booted system. So I now have the ability to do backups from windows partitions to linux partitions. What I would like is reccomendations for a win backup program that can be automated and made to save to a particular destination. Skippy, Do you have any idea if this software is compatible with older versions of Winders? Specifically an old win95 laptop I have laying around... Have a look at http://www.paragon-gmbh.com also see thier 'mount everything'. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
NZ tremors
I just remembered the other pseudonom for them is the shaky isles. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: hd problem
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 02:03 am, David A. Bandel wrote: AFAIK, ftp wasn't designed for recursive transfers. For that, I would use rsync. That said, I use cpio to grab directories/disks. Generally, I create a TOC using find, then cat that TOC through cpio with all the appropriate switches. Once I have a .cpio file, I bzip2 it and xfer it. cpio has always had the advantage that it will grab special files (named pipes, sockets, device files) that tar won't. I also verify backups, and I note that most youngsters today don't. But then you're asking an old school admin who still types sync three times before unmounting a disk. Could be tar will do you nicely. Ciao, David A. Bandel David, I was thinking that if I installed a linux on this other drive and called a cron job from there, would it backup windows to linux even though its not actually running? Just a no brain query. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: hd problem
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 02:17 am, Leon A. Goldstein wrote: Keith Antoine wrote inter alia: Looking at the drive in dos it sees c: only and If I access the R and fixmbr it says its not a standard mbr. All we did was change the motherboard, could this wipe the mbr and scaramble it? Is there a way to fix without losing all the data? It looks to me as if there is no way out but to reformat and re partition etc. Sounds like another partition overlay problem (Maxblast, EZDrive, etc.). I believe these programs interact with the BIOS, so a different BIOS will mess up how it reads the MBR. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 Now I see the light, as the saying goes. Yes that would account for the problem in that the new baord has these 'new fangled dual bios thigo's'. I did try the old board back in but it also was corrupted by this time. Ok lesson well learnt. Mind you have run XP after a MB change before, with R in the install section, this was the first glitch. Lesson backup to something else first. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
hd problem
Sorry this is really M$ related but: I had a customer with a constant rebooting machine, which we found was a motherboard problem, PSU was fine and also switch was. So I used the latest Gigabyte motherboard as a replacement GA-700N-400Pro, which was an advanced board on the older 333 motherboard that went. Installed MB strted the machine up with the XP cd in as boot to access R (repair) so as to reconfigure the hd system to boot on new board, done this before. However it all of a sudden had just a C: drive whilst it used to have AFAICR C,D,E,F. It now sees only a c: of 80 gig and will not access repair. Looking at the drive in dos it sees c: only and If I access the R and fixmbr it says its not a standard mbr. All we did was change the motherboard, could this wipe the mbr and scaramble it? Is there a way to fix without losing all the data? It looks to me as if there is no way out but to reformat and re partition etc. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
raid mirror
I think that when i sent the last mail I was as usual confused and did not give enough information. We will be using the Asus A7N8X Delux board with built in SATA raid. So its hardware raid. Also does it require that they drives sit either both on the SATA side or both on the IDE side ? Does one on the ide sit on the normal primary and the second drive sit on the raid connection ? With the Sata raid I am guessing that both drives sit on the SATA bus. Do I need raid 0 or 1, it seems that I need 1, However it also seems to me that if you lose the primary its not so easy, unless you replace the drive with a duplicate that its that easy to recover ?? Help grin Skippy ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
mirror raid question
As I have never set up a mirror raid computer, yet! I need to know something more about it. I have been asked to setup 2 HD so as they can mirror raid what is on the primary bootable' HD to the raid. The OS will be Windows XP. I also assume that they will need raid 2. They seem to think that if the system goes down that they can immediately boot with the raid drive. I have not said anything but I do not think that this is feasible. YES/NO ? Would it not be better to setup 2 HD and somehow have the primary written to the secondary, it would only need the data mirrored. C;\ will bet XP only D:\ will be just a very few programs with photoshop the primary one. E:\ will be data only. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Recomendation
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 07:05 am, Shawn Tayler wrote: hi guys, I have a friend who is looking to break the MS circle of death. He's eyeballing Mandrake 9.1 Power Pack edition. He is definitely a *nix newbie so I am curious what is thought of this offering? Shawn Had two newbies here that I put mandrake 9.1 that i helped put up for them. It was a breeze and they have had no problems so far. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: rpm install
On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 12:36 pm, Ted Ozolins wrote: Keith Antoine wrote: At the risk of being boring and getting back to kernel compile: I do an rpm -q gtk+, only to get told its not installed. Yet I did install the package, so I tried for about the third time, but in command mode I rpm -ihv --nodeps --force gtk+2.0x.rpm after installing it obce agin tells me its not installed and locate cannot find any of its libs etc either. Is it me or Mandrake ? For locate try running updatedb and for rpm try rpm --rebuilddb and see if you still have that prob... Yes I did that all to no avail, did not fix the anything. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: rpm install
On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 09:11 am, Net Llama! wrote: On 08/02/03 15:58, Keith Antoine wrote: At the risk of being boring and getting back to kernel compile: I do an rpm -q gtk+, only to get told its not installed. Yet I did install the package, so I tried for about the third time, but in command mode I rpm -ihv --nodeps --force gtk+2.0x.rpm after installing it obce agin tells me its not installed and locate cannot find any of its libs etc either. Is it me or Mandrake ? A bit of each :) try: rpm -qa | grep gtk+ Right, this is the result: [EMAIL PROTECTED] kantoine]# rpm -qa | grep gtk+ gtk+mdk-0.1.6-14mdk libgtk+1.2-1.2.10-32mdk libgtk+mdk0.1_6-0.1.6-14mdk libgtk+-x11-2.0_0-2.2.2-4mdk libgtk+-x11-2.0_0-devel-2.2.1-2mdk gtk+2.0-2.2.2-4mdk libgtk+2.0_0-devel-2.2.1-2mdk libgtk+1.2-devel-1.2.10-32mdk libgtk+mdk0.1_6-devel-0.1.6-14mdk libgtk+2.0_0-devel-2.2.2-4mdk libgtk+2.0_0-2.2.2-4mdk -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: rpm install
On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 12:51 am, Net Llama! wrote: OK, so apparently mandrake named it 'gtk+2.0'. You still need to install gtk+2.0-devel Thats the real problem in that I am unable to find gtk+2.0-devel anywhere online. Not in rpmfind or mandrake lists. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: rpm install
On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 12:54 am, Tim Wunder wrote: On Sunday 03 August 2003 4:34 am, someone claiming to be Keith Antoine wrote: On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 09:11 am, Net Llama! wrote: On 08/02/03 15:58, Keith Antoine wrote: At the risk of being boring and getting back to kernel compile: I do an rpm -q gtk+, only to get told its not installed. Yet I did install the package, so I tried for about the third time, but in command mode I rpm -ihv --nodeps --force gtk+2.0x.rpm after installing it obce agin tells me its not installed and locate cannot it? What is telling you that gtk+ is not installed. rpm? Well, that's because the package is called gtk+2.0, not gtk+. Try rpm -q gtk+2.0. Yes that showed it Tim, however as Lonni said I need the devel of that which I cannot find anywhere. I have the tarball of gtk+2.2.2 but it will not compile because the glib version I have is incorrect. So I have compiled glib 2.2.2 but that is not enough, or because its a tarball its not seen. or ATK is the wrong version but the best i can see is 1.2.4 and the compile wants 2.1.4. Sh** its just a merry-go-round. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What was it about eD 2.4?
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 11:20 pm, Michael Hipp wrote: Tina M Berendt wrote: So, what *specifically* made eD so great? I'm surprised no-one has mentioned this ... Mike Andrew He helped me alot. Wherever he is, God bless him. Michael Being a Norfolk islander, thats where he will still be. His address will be hard to get though. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What was it about eD 2.4?
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 11:54 pm, Net Llama! wrote: On 08/02/03 06:20, Michael Hipp wrote: Tina M Berendt wrote: So, what *specifically* made eD so great? I'm surprised no-one has mentioned this ... Mike Andrew He helped me alot. Wherever he is, God bless him. Last I heard he's still on Norfolk Island, in self-imposed exile. They are a special sort of people, one cannot live there unless you have a Norfolk hereitage or kin. They have there own languauge, its rare for them to leave the island except on business etc. Colleen McCullough lives there as she married an islander, loves the isolation. Its 2 hrs North on NZ and 2 Hrs East of Sydney in the Sth Pacific and it ain't big. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What was it about eD 2.4?
On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 12:34 am, Michael Hipp wrote: Net Llama! wrote: Mike Andrew Last I heard he's still on Norfolk Island, in self-imposed exile. Maybe we should organize a Skippy-esque manhunt. As I said he is isolated and frankly all the islanders want it that way. They govern themselves although they are still uner Oz Govt umbrella. Its a beautiful place very small and its popular here as a short holiday destination. However they restrict the number of visitors to the available accomodation also its not cheap. Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bring back eD? (was Re: I am dissatisfied)
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:35 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote: dedicated lists (yes plural), CVS repository, and various other 'needs' can be up and running in minutes. Since I'm currently unemployed, I got nothing else taking up my time... - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 http://doug.hunley.homeip.net http://www.linux-sxs.org Oh! so you have retired too grin. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bring back eD? (was Re: I am dissatisfied)
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:36 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Keith Antoine shocked and awed us all by speaking: Doug, mate! Do you not remember one angry old fart a couple of years ago that was not going to let go of Caldera. He tried updating for a while till he became a real nuciance on a certain list. It became too involved and masochistic even though I do have leanings that way. Not only that my memory retention spans 90 seconds. I remember. I also remember personally maintaining my eD 2.4 and submitting the notes to you, Kurt, Marcus and others.. Learned a hell of a lot trying to figure out how Caldera had to do things 'their' way for this package, and 'that' way for this other package... Umm, yes there were quite a few of us involved at the time. That is the frustrating tart for me in that in a short time my memory has got so faulty. If I do not do thing repetitiously or within a short space of time the knowledge is lost. I also do not have a copy of Caldera anymore. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Who's going to LinuxWorld next week?
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 02:33 am, Net Llama! wrote: I'm planning to attend on Tuesday. Anyone else going to be there that day? Perhaps we could meet up for lunch? As walking on water is one of my specialities, these days, and I need the excersize, I'll see if I can make it on time. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Australia Sends SCO on Walkabout
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 02:37 am, Bill Campbell wrote: I don't think you could sell Miller Lite, Bud Lite, Coors, etc. for any price in Oz, New Zealand, or other places where real beer, ale, and stout is available. The only thing people here in the Pacific NW would use Miller Lite for is slug bait. Bill Bill, you seem to have a penchant for causeing me strife. However actually we are currently using it to try and drown the the bloody 'fire' ants that got imported by ship into queensland from the US. They have had some initial sucess but last night they were found in properties west of Brisbane. If they manage to migrate 'out west' we will have another environmental disaster on our hands. Its too sparsely populated and big to manage. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Australia Sends SCO on Walkabout
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 04:08 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 19:53, Bill Campbell wrote: I've found that even backwater bars usually have Guiness which is a good fallback. If they don't have Guiness, I drink ice tea rather than the unrecycled piss that passes for beer there. I do lots of work in England and it is odd how many Brits in the pub will order a Bud (the American variety) and drink it like they enjoy it. They must run M$ at home... I think we becime innured to our 'local' brew with time and anything 'new' takes for a while. As I am nowadays on the wagon I still remember with fondness my days on the continent and TUBORG. Well I remember it in bits and pieces. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What was it about eD 2.4?
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 04:40 am, Shawn L Johnston wrote: On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 12:49, Tina M Berendt wrote: So, what *specifically* made eD so great? It was elegant, from installation to end use. Shawn Yes, that describes it souciently. Plus maintenance was so easy it did not matter, rpm or tarball it went up and worked. The lousy rpm dependency issue I have these days was not around or very minor. In fact one could abuse thesystem and get away with it within reason. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bring back eD? (was Re: I am dissatisfied)
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 08:05 am, Collins Richey wrote: On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 07:13:47 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:35 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote: dedicated lists (yes plural), CVS repository, and various other 'needs' can be up and running in minutes. Since I'm currently unemployed, I got nothing else taking up my time... - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 http://doug.hunley.homeip.net http://www.linux-sxs.org Oh! so you have retired too grin. There's a lot of that going around. As of yesterday I am a layoff statistic. My prior employer has been laying off 30-50 people a quarter for as long as I can remember. I was lucky and got retired before this all came in. The problem is that if you are over 25 your ratshit these days. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What was it about eD 2.4?
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 08:29 am, Leon A. Goldstein wrote: Lots of people wrote too much to quote. Between reminiscing about eDesk 2.4 and favorite brews, this is becoming another eDesk 2.4 wake. Not that that is a bad thing. How many other distro's of the past command such fond loyalty? I still wonder though how much the excellent mailing list contributed to its success. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Australia Sends SCO on Walkabout
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 08:02 am, Michael Hipp wrote: The fire ants came to use by ship from S. America in the same uninvited way. And don't expect much success. The only thing that seems to even slow them down is cold weather. We have had a real good eradication program: started up as soon as they were spotted but that may have been too late. They are a reportable pest and if you know but do not report you can end up in court. We also got Africanized killer bees much the same way. If you'd like we could perhaps send a load of them also :-D Yes we got them but isolated em and killed them asap, looks as if we are on top of that one. Ain't globalization wonderful! Michael -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I am dissatisfied
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 01:12 pm, Federico Voges wrote: If you wan't a Caldera like distro, checkout Lycoris (formerly Redmond Linux). It's based on Caldera's LTP (it even uses Lizard). http://www.lycoris.com/ Bye! Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Tel/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 Malabia 2137 14 A e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C1425EZC) Buenos Aires Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar Argentina Yes I knew Joseph when he was just one of the crowd on the old Caldera list. I have often wondered about Lycoris, but what I heard was that it was mainly for newbies and not too may developed files etc. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: trying to compile 2.6 kernel
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:11 am, Net Llama! wrote: On 07/29/03 17:49, Keith Antoine wrote: Well at least my computer is stubborn and consistent: [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux-2.6.0-test1]# make gconfig * * Unable to find the GTK+ installation. Please make sure that * the GTK+ 2.0 development package is correctly installed... * You need gtk+-2.0, glib-2.0 and libglade-2.0. what do you get from the following commands: rpm -q gtk+ rpm -q libglade rpm -q glib The only one that returns a negative is gtk+, however it is installed. I am guessing that its missing its devel file but I cannot find a compatible gtk+2.0-2.2.2.rpm that is installed on this computer. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bring back eD? (was Re: I am dissatisfied)
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 03:12 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Keith Antoine shocked and awed us all by speaking: Now what I want is the old Caldera back and updated, but that is a pipe dream of course. So I have Redhat 9.0 (shrike) and also Slackware 9.0 on why is this a pipe dream? almost the whole damn distro is 100% OSS (the only exceptions being a little bit of the management guis). I'm sure the community could certainly break out an old copy of eD 2.4 and then make it current hell, we could even provide resources for it on the SxS site (within reason) - -- Doug, mate! Do you not remember one angry old fart a couple of years ago that was not going to let go of Caldera. He tried updating for a while till he became a real nuciance on a certain list. It became too involved and masochistic even though I do have leanings that way. Not only that my memory retention spans 90 seconds. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I get a lot from router
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 04:25 am, Matthew Carpenter wrote: Hope it's all working for you. I've been offline for a week so I might have missed it, but what's the status of this? Are you able to use both machines at the same time? Matt Yes Matt, its working fine as soon as I put the router in. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bring back eD? (was Re: I am dissatisfied)
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 04:40 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote: true dat. just want to keep reminding people that if they are willing to put their money where their mouth is, we can help a lot... I have all the time needed but not the expertise anymore. The only thing that I can contribute is time and labour, there would have to be a dedicated list for this too, easy nuff I guess. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bring back eD? (was Re: I am dissatisfied)
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 03:39 am, Net Llama! wrote: We've gone this route before. I mentioend that there's no point in starting such a project unless: 0) A sufficient number of people are willing to contribute 1) All of those people have the time to see it through to completion I'm quite happy to get involved with this, but i don't want to spend many hours for something that will die from neglect. I agree it could be done, but I proved that a lone yachtsman was not the way. It would have to be a comitted group effort. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bring back eD? (was Re: I am dissatisfied)
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 04:48 am, Net Llama! wrote: Indeed. I've got lots of ideas, but i don't have the time or skillz to do it solo. Ummm, just as a test case, are there people out there interested enough to get involved, as advisors and ideas men plus wall bouncers grin. WARNING, this could be addictive. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: trying to compile 2.6 kernel
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:13 pm, Net Llama! wrote: Out puts as follows, guess that I have to install atk and glib. Had problems with rpms and mandrake if its not .mdk rpm its refused so will try as tarballs Keith, What is the output from the following: locate .pc Huge output 99% from /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ etc then from /usr/src kernels rpm -q pango pango-1.2.1-1mdk rpm -q atk Not installed rpm -q glib Not installed thanks! Since I did the lookups I have managed to install both missing progs. But it still tells me; * * Unable to find the GTK+ installation. Please make sure that * the GTK+ 2.0 development package is correctly installed... * You need gtk+-2.0, glib-2.0 and libglade-2.0. * make[1]: *** [scripts/kconfig/.tmp_gtkcheck] Error 1 make: *** [scripts/kconfig/gconf] Error 2 also: [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux-2.6.0-test1]# rpm -q gtk+2.0 gtk+2.0-2.2.2-4mdk and [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux-2.6.0-test1]# rpm -q glib glib-1.3.15-1 libglade is now install also but same result. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: trying to compile 2.6 kernel
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 04:34 pm, James McDonald wrote: I tried to use gconfig last night and it failed miserably too Keith I tried to do the same install stuff and got the dependency night mare aswell. BUT... make xconfig (which launches the QT interface worked fine). So if your not biased against KDE/AT then just use that. Its the challange that I love, even if I do not succeed. Thats was whole point in drawing me into Linux, now they are making it too difficult for the non tech software guy. I wnat to get gconfig to work to see if it is simpler than the other commands to handle, especially as compiling a kernel is now much more difficult if the documentation is lacking/poor. I was able to handle the very early 0.xx series kernels on command line, but they were time consuming, mainly due to low speed buses. Somewhere about the begining of the 2 series or slightly earlier, they got X/gui and xconfig, which made it all simpler. Also with the advent of faster proceeeors/buses it was a dream. Now they are giving us a massive information overload: I wonder sometimes if progress is worth the it, course I am locked into memories etc now and my learning curve is too steep. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
unable to compile with gconfig
Lonni, am unsure whether I gave you all the info. [EMAIL PROTECTED] kantoine]# rpm -q atk atk-1.2.4-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] kantoine]# rpm -q glib glib-1.3.15-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] kantoine]# rpm -q pango pango-1.2.1-1mdk locate .pc is massive in fact it runs the terminal window out of history. I have taken a tail of which the last 8 lines are relevant. The rest is all from /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi... /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timI18-ISO8859-9.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timI18.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timI24-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timI24-ISO8859-13.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timI24-ISO8859-15.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timI24-ISO8859-2.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timI24-ISO8859-9.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timI24.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR08-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR08-ISO8859-13.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR08-ISO8859-15.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR08-ISO8859-2.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR08-ISO8859-9.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR08.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR10-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR10-ISO8859-13.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR10-ISO8859-15.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR10-ISO8859-2.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR10-ISO8859-9.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR10.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR12-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR12-ISO8859-13.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR12-ISO8859-15.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR12-ISO8859-2.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR12-ISO8859-9.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR12.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR14-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR14-ISO8859-13.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR14-ISO8859-15.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR14-ISO8859-2.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR14-ISO8859-9.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR14.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR18-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR18-ISO8859-13.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR18-ISO8859-15.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR18-ISO8859-2.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR18-ISO8859-9.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR18.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR24-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR24-ISO8859-13.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR24-ISO8859-15.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR24-ISO8859-2.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR24-ISO8859-9.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR24.pcf.gz /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-0.13mdk/Documentation/isdn/README.pcbit /usr/src/linux-2.6.0-test1/Documentation/isdn/README.pcbit /backup/kantoine/.kde/share/cache/http/p/www.pcmag.com_images_shim.gif_6473d08e /backup/kantoine/.kde/share/cache/favicons/www.pclinuxonline.com_themes_pclinuxonline_images_favicon.png /backup/src/linux-2.4.21-0.13mdk/Documentation/isdn/README.pcbit /backup/src/linux-2.6.0-test1/Documentation/isdn/README.pcbit /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.13mdk/modules.pcimap -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: trying to compile 2.6 kernel
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:40 pm, James McDonald wrote: James: Well ! KEITH install libglade2-devel Mine had that exact error aswell and after Installed the devel package I finally got the gtk interface YE HAR! It's on CD3 of the Mandrake distributions CDs Also I found the code that does the check for the right environment pkg-config gtk+-2.0 exists echo $? pkg-config gmodule-2.0 --exists echo $? pkg-config libglade-2.0 --exists echo $? The echo should be zero if you have the package. Did the above, should I get no return at all at the prompt ? That is what I am getting just a return prompt. Well at least my computer is stubborn and consistent: [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux-2.6.0-test1]# make gconfig * * Unable to find the GTK+ installation. Please make sure that * the GTK+ 2.0 development package is correctly installed... * You need gtk+-2.0, glib-2.0 and libglade-2.0. * make[1]: *** [scripts/kconfig/.tmp_gtkcheck] Error 1 make: *** [scripts/kconfig/gconf] Error 2 This was after the install of libglade-2.0 ??? -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
I am dissatisfied
I am after 2 years or so still dissatisfied with Mandarke/SuSe, in point of fact I have after spending much money given Suse away and am thinkink of doing the same with Mandrake. Mandrake is great but for one thing, installation of rpms through urpmi and all its inherant dependencies. If the rpm is not a mandrake compiled the it is fairly certain it will either reject it out of hand or the dependencies are an absolute menace. Now what I want is the old Caldera back and updated, but that is a pipe dream of course. So I have Redhat 9.0 (shrike) and also Slackware 9.0 on cd's. As I do not wish, as I have done in the past, start a flame war: Could I ask for some detatched and dispasionate thoughts on both of these, ease of install also how good are they seeing 100% of hardware installed, no real big gotchas. How arev they with tarball installs and also rpm's. How well do they stick to std program install no beta install or esoteric installs that need workrounds. I am sure that you all know what I want, I have not asked for any others as I know little re the rest. However feedback would be appreciated, again I ask no this is a great OS' without the reasons as to why. grin Now what have I started !! -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I am dissatisfied
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:56 am, Net Llama! wrote: If you're looking for overall ease of use, with something that is somewhat familiar then Redhat is definitely the way to go. Slackware will be completely foreign to you, as RPMs are really not part of the picture, and there's the entire filesystem layout which differs from just about all the others too. I've been using RH9 on 2 laptops, and a workstation for about 3 months now, and have been quite pleased. And Redhat tends to have many more compatible RPMs than any other distro. Very early on in my love affair with Linux I started out as a ISP using Slackware: probably 0.8.x to 1.0x. I used that up to the time I got engaged with the original Caldera list and installed Calder 1.xx, maybe you may remember when I joined those years ago. However Slackware must have changed a great deal since that time as I have never gone back. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I am dissatisfied
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:28 pm, Michael Hipp wrote: BIG SNIP RH does occasionally do dumb things like include a 0.9x version of Mozilla (RH 7.3) and never update it to a production release. I wish it had some kind of decent LAN browser (aka Network Neighborhood). And I'll never get over the absence of Webmin and Caldera's control panel extensions. That is why I asked to see if it has matured, as it certainly was a maverick for some time. I know nothing of Slackware, as I've heard you have to be 3 meters tall, weighing 200 kilos with chest hair like an Amazon rain forest. That description doesn't fit me, so I don't even try. I thank you for your observation, but am at a complete loss as to how you knew what I looked like these days. I wonder if we'll ever stop mourning for the once great Caldera (snif)? No I do not think so, especially as it was way ahead of its time, and like Amiga was rooted by its makers and put to an early grave. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I am dissatisfied
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:28 pm, Myles Green wrote: There, not a flame to be seen ;o) HTH Isn't that nice, maybe because I asked the question instead of answering ? -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
trying to compile 2.6 kernel
I am stopped at the first base. When I type in gconfig it says that : * Unable to find the GTK+ installation. Please make sure that * the GTK+ 2.0 development package is correctly installed... * You need gtk+-2.0, glib-2.0 and libglade-2.0. I have installed from a tarball glib-2.2.2, when I try to install gtk+-2.2.2 I get: - checking for glib-2.0 = 2.1.4 atk = 1.0.1 pango = 1.0.1... Package glib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `glib-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'glib-2.0' found configure: error: Library requirements (glib-2.0 = 2.1.4 atk = 1.0.1 pango = 1.0.1) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them. - There does not appear to be an rpm that I can install to mandrake from, which is what I need these days as I have no idea how to fix the install as is. They have made things real difficult to even start into now. By the same token Mandrake is remiss too. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: 2.6.0 kernel compile doc
On Saturday 26 July 2003 10:32 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: Quoth Keith Antoine: On Saturday 26 July 2003 05:35 pm, David A. Bandel wrote: Might try http://linuxbooks.pananix.com/kernel2.6.html for my stab at 2.6 gotcha documentation. Ciao, David A. Bandel Phewww!! I could breathe again at last: Many thanks. Another helpful doc, although a little bit dated, is http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/post-halloween-2.5.txt. However, just now, I'm gettin Connection Refused errors. Anyone else? Kurt YUP! -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: 2.6.0 kernel compile doc
On Sunday 27 July 2003 09:57 am, Kurt Wall wrote: I was able to get it from kernel.org (ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/davej/misc/post-halloweeen-2. 5.txt) When I tried this URL it came back saying no such file is avaiable. So I tried the local mirror and got it from there. ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/linux/kernel/people/davej/misc/post-halloweeen-2.5.txt -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: my networking problem is over
On Saturday 26 July 2003 08:44 am, David A. Bandel wrote: Will post the URL when it's ready. I'm shooting for finishing it this weekend. Ciao, David A. Bandel Great! Will hold my breath g -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: 2.6.0 kernel compile doc
On Saturday 26 July 2003 05:35 pm, David A. Bandel wrote: Might try http://linuxbooks.pananix.com/kernel2.6.html for my stab at 2.6 gotcha documentation. Ciao, David A. Bandel Phewww!! I could breathe again at last: Many thanks. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: CDROM and eth0 not detected on reboot
On Saturday 26 July 2003 08:00 am, Joel Hammer wrote: I burned a CD at work and could not read it at home on any computer. (XP home, XP pro, Caldera 2.4, lindows 3.0, lindows 4.0). Everytime the first big jpeg file gets accessed (6 million bytes), everybody just hangs. Windows explorer won't even shut down, requiring a reboot. The first thing that i would suspect is that the cd file is bad. I have also seen this when its burnt on an older cd-writer and the new laser will not read the old burnt cd. I dual boot lindows 3.0 and windows XP pro. So, after a hang reading this CD in XP pro and a reboot into lindows, booting lindows results in no eth0 device detected, and the cdrom isn't detected. In the bios setup up the eth0 is enabled and the cdrom is detected. The cdrom problem is especially bad since I can't run any of the diagnostic software I think might be on the motherboards's CD. First up is the cdrom and eth0 seen in dmesg ? If not what does dmesg say about them ? How can you run motherboard diagnostics which are for windows in linux, even if it is lindows. Is this just a new motherboard going bad? Could XP crashing have damaged the linux partition? I had the linux partition disabled in XP before the problem began. Why suspect the motherboard when you say its detected in bios ? and also seen in XP but not read. Any suggestions appreciated. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: CDROM and eth0 not detected on reboot
On Saturday 26 July 2003 08:23 am, Joel Hammer wrote: Well, I booted back into XP Pro, and both those problem devices work fine. So, I must conclude that when XP Pro went down, it damaged the lindows partition, even though lindows resides on a different drive and this drive was removed from the device list in XP. AFAIK there is no way that XP crashing can or will have effect on linux/lindows or how it boots. Especially as its on a differing drive, you are whistling in the wind mate! -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: my networking problem is over
On Friday 25 July 2003 12:07 pm, David A. Bandel wrote: Actually, mrproper is still there and has its utility. Try `make help` to see how things have changed. I'm writing a document on all this to post on my website to help folks along. Ciao, David A. Bandel Will this appear on the company site, www.pananix.com ? -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Serial ATA on Linux
On Friday 25 July 2003 04:52 pm, Michael Hipp wrote: A while back I posted a question about serial ATA support in Linux. Someone on another list pointed me toward this provider of S-ATA RAID and it claims Linux support (RH and SuSE): http://www.3ware.com/products/serial_ata.asp Michael I have an Asus A7N8X delux Motherboard with a Seagate SATA 120gig hd for playing around with vhs to DVD and recording programs to. The write time is approx twice the speed of the std ide drives. Mandrake sees the sata raid drive and installs drivers. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Serial ATA on Linux
On Friday 25 July 2003 05:11 pm, Net Llama! wrote: On 07/25/03 13:52, Michael Hipp wrote: A while back I posted a question about serial ATA support in Linux. Someone on another list pointed me toward this provider of S-ATA RAID and it claims Linux support (RH and SuSE): http://www.3ware.com/products/serial_ata.asp As far as I know, 3ware is the only vendor providing any degree of SATA support under linux. From the (granted) little that i've read, the performance is quite bad. As in newspapers take most of what ytou read with a pinch of salt. I have such a board and drives that is written in half the time of a std drive, and it is seen by Mandrake. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
my networking problem is over
I do not know what i did differently, obviously something but I am now connected with both XP and linux, plus the secondary machine is now also online. So my major problem is now solved. What can I do next to keep everyone busy, I know i'll do a 2.6 compile. All jokes aside many thanks to all those who put in their .05 cents worth. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: my networking problem is over
On Thursday 24 July 2003 07:56 am, David A. Bandel wrote: It's not the compilation that will get you, but the little things that you will forget to include or include as modules. In that respect, 2.6 is a nightmare. It's getting to the point that not just anyone can compile their own kernel and expect it to work. The config script needs simplification. Ciao, David A. Bandel I have tried over recent months and none worked. So the explanation lies above. In many respects its a real pity, as that was to many, part of the fun of Linux, being able to compile your own kernel. They do call it progress but I see progress contains many losses as well as 'gains'. Do the gains outweigh the losses, in many cases I think not. As you say though it often gets back to the old bain, insufficient or bad documentation. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mandrake or Slackware
On Thursday 24 July 2003 04:04 pm, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: Folks, If you had to choose, with only a couple hours to decide, between Slackware and Mandrake for a laptop install, which would you choose? I don't know either of them well enough to make a logical decision, but I'm in the position of needing to make that decision. Any insights from the list would be appreciated. In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) I use Mandrake for ease of installation and it does pick 99% of the hardware up correctly. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: network problem: internet sharing
At 12:23 PM 23/07/2003 -0400, you wrote: I'd be interested in hearing your experience. My company has invested a lot into Linux as a firewall/router/NAT device because we can depend on them better than just about anything else available. Short of Hardware failure, Linux firewalls/routers/NAT devices are one of the most powerful and reliable on the market, being able to do complex firewalling, IDS/IDP, NAT (both directions), reporting, and much more. The only times I have found Linux not function well in this roll has been resulting from a lack of basic education. The workstations behind it weren't configured for IP or there wasn't a DHCP server or the DHCP configuration wasn't handing out a default route correctly. No offense to you, Alma... I know I must be sounding like a biggot at the moment (sounding the trumpet while on the Linux list and all), but most problems I've found have been lack of knowledge about how a TCP/IP network works, including configuration and routing. And Microsoft tries to automate it... but AUTO is a four-letter word, because AUTO only works part of the time. And the AUTO methods tend to make you not consider some potential problem areas because they work sometimes. While I'm not sure what is going on at Keith's I have to say that in the event of random or inconsistent issues, most problems I've dealt with have been a Windows problem. My biggest unknown here is Mandrake, since Mandrake is attempting to be a Microsoft competitor, they may be attempting some automated stuff. I'm not sure whether this was covered or not, but if you have the XP box set to dynamic, you need a DHCP server. If it is hard-set to 192.168.1.2, it needs to have the correct netmask (most often chosen as 255.255.255.0 but if generated by network class, it could be 255.255.0.0), Default Gateway of 192.168.1.2, and DNS servers need to be set to whatever the Linux box is being handed in DHCP. Otherwise, you can point to mine: 69.33.10.245 and 69.33.10.246. Again, no offense to anyone here. Thanks, Matt Maybe you did not see my last mail to David, I have bascically chucked the towel on with XP downstairs as I have experienced this before. So I went and bought a Netgear cable router, now evryone is connected fine except linux sheesh. If I try to setup linux manually it still does not connect but it also stuffs up the XP connection seeing i am dual boot. Skipp in windoze ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: network problem: internet sharing
At 12:20 PM 23/07/2003 -0400, you wrote: To run ipconfig open a command prompt first - start, run cmd. Once the command window is open try ipconfig. Regards, Wil McGilvery Manager Lynch Digital Media Inc Ta for that little info. So now I have the settings, but getting them into linux ? Up till now using the Mandrake Control centre and inserting what I found from IPconfig still does not connect and still messes with XP if I reboot to that. I want to use both online without having to reconfig the router and modem each time. I' ll get there soon I hope grin Skippy ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: network problem: internet sharing
At 12:49 PM 23/07/2003 -0400, you wrote: On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 15:38:13 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The ip of the router seems to be 192.168.0.1, used for http config. I have not ips for downstairs computer either. Can I asume the this one would be 192.168.0.2 and the downstairs 192.168.0.3, or is this impossible. How can i find out what is using what ip's. Use ipconfig you say but when i call it here a little black window flashes up and is gone in a flash. If the IP of the router is 192.168.0.1, what is the netmask? That needs to be the netmask for all of the machines. Is the NetGear router doing DHCP? If so, set the Linux machine and the XP machine both to use DHCP and everything else should be good (unless the NetGear DHCP is messed up. You have to call ipconfig from inside a command window Start - Run - cmd enter Well I got ipconfig to work thaks to Will, the numbers I got: XP 192.168.0.2 GW 19+2.168.0.1 NM 255.255.255.0 Skippy ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: network problem: internet sharing
At 10:48 PM 23/07/2003 -0400, you wrote: On Wednesday 23 July 2003 10:50 pm, Collins Richey wrote: Stick around Alma. This group (like most others) is a mixture of those who are knowledgable and who will help anyone who asks and those who sometimes give the impression that anyone who hasn't reached their exalted level of understanding must be a troll. I've learned a lot here, helped out some, and been called a troll. A thick skin helps. A little brandy helps, too. I tried ilkahal and lost the bloody keyboard. Skuuppyy hic ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: network problem: internet sharing
At 11:07 PM 23/07/2003 -0400, you wrote: Asbestos undergarments are a real plus, too. There are lots of, um, strong personalities here, to be sure. The occasional troglodyte shows up. Mostly, though, a lot of really talented, smart, and entertaining people hang out here, and they kindly tolerate and humor the rest of us who are mere mortals. Kurt Oh No!! Is that kurt Wall saying he is mortal, getaway. The Smart- Handsome- Intelligent- Skippy ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
I get a lot from router
I am getting mail from the router which I do not understand. The following IP's are being dropped. I can see they are local but why are they being generated at all and why are they not received. some from 192.168.0.2,137 are allowed. Tue, 2003-07-22 22:55:37 - Device Receive UDP Packet - Source:192.168.0.2,138,LAN - [Drop] Tue, 2003-07-22 22:55:43 - Device Receive UDP Packet - Source:10.55.0.1,67,WAN - [Drop] Tue, 2003-07-22 22:55:51 - Device Receive UDP Packet - Source:10.55.0.1,67,WAN - [Drop] Tue, 2003-07-22 22:55:59 - Device Receive UDP Packet - Source:10.55.0.1,67,WAN - [Drop] Tue, 2003-07-22 22:56:04 - Device Receive UDP Packet - Source:10.55.0.1,67,WAN - [Drop] Tue, 2003-07-22 22:56:06 - Device Receive UDP Packet - Source:192.168.0.2,137,LAN - [Receive] Tue, 2003-07-22 22:56:07 - Device Receive UDP Packet - Source:10.55.0.1,67,WAN - [Drop] Tue, 2003-07-22 22:56:12 - Device Receive UDP Packet - Source:10.55.0.1,67,WAN - [Drop] Tue, 2003-07-22 22:56:28 - Device Receive UDP Packet - Source:10.55.0.1,67,WAN - [Drop] Tue, 2003-07-22 22:56:30 - Device Receive UDP Packet - Source:10.55.0.1,67,WAN - [Drop] Tue, 2003-07-22 22:56:32 - Device Receive UDP Packet - Source:10.55.0.1,67,WAN - [Drop] Tue, 2003-07-22 22:56:41 - Device Receive UDP Packet - Source:10.55.0.1,67,WAN - [Drop] Tue, 2003-07-22 22:56:57 - Device Receive UDP Packet - Source:10.55.0.1,67,WAN - [Drop] Tue, 2003-07-22 22:57:43 - Device Receive UDP Packet - Source:192.168.0.2,137,LAN - [Drop] Tue, 2003-07-22 22:57:43 - Device Receive UDP Packet - Source:192.168.0.2,137,LAN - [Drop] Tue, 2003-07-22 22:57:44 - Device Receive UDP Packet - Source:192.168.0.2,137,LAN - [Drop] Skippy ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: network problem: internet sharing
On Tuesday 22 July 2003 12:25 am, Alma J Wetzker wrote: Keith, I know I am just the clueless newbie here but before you reinstall XP I just want to clarify the problem in my head. The modem goes to the linux box through an ethernet card. The linux box works. The linux box has a second ethernet card that is connected to the XP box elsewhere. The XP box can ping the linux box. (I hope this is correct.) yes Can the XP box ping an address on the wild wild web? (Using the ip address as the name will not work.) If it can then the issue could be the linux box not routing the DNS lookup correctly. If you cannot then the linux box is not acting as a router and it should be. see below I am NOT suggesting that the XP install is perfect but I still have my doubts that it is the entire problem given the above picture in my head. If you can ping the web from the XP box, it may be the DNS stuff not configured correctly somewhere. I would think that is easier to fix than doing a reinstall. (Although I would suggest a clean install rather than an upgrade from dos to NT, which is what 98 to XP is.) Always do a clean install on both machines still no go. -- Alma Do not aplogise for being a newbie as all of us in this list were new at one stage or another. I have managed to stuff things up very well now, after playing around with XP on both machines. I need to reinstall XP on this dual boot machine, however on linux I can ping 192.168.0.2 but cannot ping 192.168.0.1 from the downstairs XP. No point in looking to net when I cannot reach this machine. I have used another nic on the downstairs machine, also got another cable. No go. If I can ping one way why not the other ? -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: network problem: internet sharing
On Tuesday 22 July 2003 10:17 am, Matthew Carpenter wrote: No, it's sysctl, not sysclt like was originally posted. It not found anyway so it must have been a typo on my part. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: network problem: internet sharing
On Tuesday 22 July 2003 10:47 am, Matthew Carpenter wrote: Is the Linux box running a firewall that blocks ICMP or only accepts limited ICMP? I set it for HIGH security and its running stonewall, other than that ?? But then it does not matter whether ists XP I am in or linux it still refuses to work on the downstairs machine. Looks like I need a cable router. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?
On Tuesday 22 July 2003 11:00 am, Net Llama! wrote: On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Matthew Carpenter wrote: I'm not quite sure I follow the logic in the last sentence. But I would tell How so? Michael to learn SuSE. It's a breath of fresh air over RH and MDK. It pleases even an old COL-er That's not been my experience. My use of SuSE has been nothing but frustration. It looks like they hacked up the distro just enough to make it different confusing. But, have fun if you like it. I am afraid that for once I MUST agree with Lonni grin, but all I get with SuSe is grief, sent one of my good friends crazy too. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?
On Tuesday 22 July 2003 11:41 am, Bill Campbell wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 11:00:35AM -0400, Net Llama! wrote: On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Matthew Carpenter wrote: I'm not quite sure I follow the logic in the last sentence. But I would tell How so? Michael to learn SuSE. It's a breath of fresh air over RH and MDK. It pleases even an old COL-er Me too! That's not been my experience. My use of SuSE has been nothing but frustration. It looks like they hacked up the distro just enough to make it different confusing. But, have fun if you like it. That's largely changed with SuSE 8.x. No longer does it depend on a monster, monolithic configuration file (e.g. you can manually edit configuration files and they stay changed after running yast2). Not so AFAIAC its still a dog. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: network problem: internet sharing
On Tuesday 22 July 2003 12:09 pm, David A. Bandel wrote: On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 18:58:48 -0400 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] If I can ping one way why not the other ? I've seen this stupidity from Windoze before. Pings from Linux work, but from XP, no. Could be one of several things: 1. netmask on the XP computer 2. second interface the XP system wants to use instead of the correct one (especially bad for gateway) 3. necessary service not installed (is this wired with Cat5 or a wireless signal -- if wireless, you need QOS service installed) Review _all_ the networking stuff in XP. Remove and reinstall all of it if necessary. Ciao, David A. Bandel Will do, but it is Cat5 wired. Had a similar one with XP to XP sometime ago, the secondary sharer would not work so we resorted to a cable router. However this particular setup WILL NOT share the printer. We have it sort of going, send a print jab and it eventually prints after at least 15 -25 minutes. We have had 3 so called network experts try, most failed. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: network problem: internet sharing
At 06:47 PM 22/07/2003 -0400, you wrote: Just a thought, but could this issue be a hardware issue? Is the cable a new one or an old one? Can you test or replace the network cards with a spare? A while back I had a Linux firewall go wonky on me and I spent a lot of time troubleshooting because it was an intermittent problem with connectivity. Turns out one of the Nics was dying a slow death. It could be a card in either box. Regards, Wil McGilvery Manager Lynch Digital Media Inc Its acedemic now that i bought a router. However cables are brand new had a tested replacement card it worked with neither. The nics in the master machine are MB built in ASUS A7N8X delux both working just fine. Can say this with confidence as they are fine with the router. It was the downstairs XP that was the problem and yes I did have another that i installed last year for a Pro photographer the did the same thing. I along with others spent 4 weeks trying only to give up and buy a router. So there are shared internet satallite machines that with windows that will not network come what may. Skippy ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: network problem: internet sharing
At 05:04 PM 22/07/2003 -0500, you wrote: No. You have networking UNIX style (the way over 100+ OSs do it, including non-UNIX OSs) and there's M$' version of networking. There are no M$ networking experts, only MCSEs (with no clue how real networking works). I doubt any of the non-UNIX MCSEs could tell you what tcpdump is, much less read the output. Speaking of which, why don't you try to see what's going on w/ tcpdump? On the Linux box, do this: tcpdump -ni eth0 (assuming eth0 is connected to the XP box) then, in another box, ping the XP box, then from the XP box ping the Linux box. You should first see arp who-has messages, then icmp echo-requests and echo-replies. If you have trouble reading it, just redirect it to a file and e-mail it to me. David, again many thanks but I have thrown up my hands and bought a netgear router FR114P with some bells and whistles. I now have daughters computer on the damd net at last. I am also online with XP but NOT with linux. Sheesh its a either or situation! The problem is with me not linux, however I did try using the mandrake gui connection and I could not manage to get it to connect. Hence I cannot call up ifconfig but there was no default gateway showing in ROUTE and only an ip of 192.168.0.0 on eth0. When I got back to windows it would not connect and I had to go through the setup proceedures once again. I presume that what I was fooling with stuffed the router settings. There are no visible settings that i can use from windows that i can use in linux. The ip of the router seems to be 192.168.0.1, used for http config. I have not ips for downstairs computer either. Can I asume the this one would be 192.168.0.2 and the downstairs 192.168.0.3, or is this impossible. How can i find out what is using what ip's. Use ipconfig you say but when i call it here a little black window flashes up and is gone in a flash. One day I will have both online but its still frustrating, but at least i have a daughter (monkey) off my back. Skippy in windows. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] welcome back skippy!
At 08:51 AM 22/07/2003 -0400, you wrote: I would also like to say welcome back. I have lurked on this list and the old caldera list for years, its nice to hear from you. -- Ray Russell Mac OS X 10.2.6 Thanks grin, it's not till one does something like unsubbing that one realises that some people care. Caldera list, ummm, that was a while ago, wasn't it ? also a brain away. Skippy ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: network problem: internet sharing
On Monday 21 July 2003 07:22 am, David A. Bandel wrote: no, you said you had ip_forward=1. I just always run sysctl as part of my firewall script to make sure. Well, Keith, for what it's worth, everything on the Linux side looks good. I'd reboot the XP system downstairs (actually, I'd boot it up with KNOPPIX) to see if it gets fixed. Your problem almost certainly lies with the XP system. Can't help you much there, XP is way too hosed for me. I have to Call Someone Else. Ciao, David A. Bandel many thanks David for all that effort; you only confirm what I was getting to suspect that the problem lies with the box downstairs. So it does look like that I will have to do a reinstall. Mind you I should have known as i did an upgrade to XP from 98 on it, that very often does mean its flaky. Was just hoping to get away with it, law of averages and Murphy work against that. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: dvd burners
On Monday 21 July 2003 07:33 am, Collins Richey wrote: BTW, I failed to get in on the welcome back, Keith series, so here it is now. Sorry, Mr.Richey but the black mark stays!! :) -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: network problem: internet sharing ot
On Monday 21 July 2003 07:56 am, Collins Richey wrote: Just an aside. I had to replace my wife's winders PC (always locking up) this weekend. The back to school special at my local PC store for $350 was a pretty decent Celeron machine (2Gz 256M 40G harddrive LAN card etc.) with WinXP Professional. The WinXP wizard for networking detected it's place on my LAN (Netgear router) automagically, setup for DHCP, and even enabled File and Printer Sharing without any of the screwing around I've had to do in the past. Only 1 reboot. g I was able to copy all the necessary files from the ailing PC in short order. We should have such a simple procedure for linux that stores all the parameters including Samba. I'm able to use Office97, but my CD writer software fails to install on XP (bummer). My Lexmark Z53 software is only marginal under WinXP, but I was able to download the current drivers. I'm not rushing out to convert everything to WinXP, but from my perspective (occasional use) it's not really hosed at all, at least no more so than any M$ product. It's still a virus waiting to happen. That is what I do get normally. However if there has been a problem or it was an update to XP, one can and does get problems which do not seem to relate to what has gone before. I had it working then it just stopped after a reboot. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: network problem: internet sharing ot
On Monday 21 July 2003 08:11 am, Gary Wilson wrote: --- Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The WinXP wizard for networking detected it's place on my LAN (Netgear router) automagically, setup for DHCP, and even enabled File and Printer Sharing without any of the screwing around I've had to do in the past. Only 1 reboot. g I was able to copy all the The secret here is that you got XP Pro, which has full networking support. It can still get tricky. If the automatic settings don't work, manual configuration is a real dog and it will keep trying to go back to the automatic settings. XP Home edition has minimal networking support. It's a dog and should be banned from all computer systems, along with Windows ME, its close cousin. You can boot up with Knoppix and get the same kind of automatic networking and Samba support is built in. It has Linneighborhood installed and has almost always found other computers on the network for me. Gary I am sure that others here will know what I mean when I say that Daughter was brought up in a office with windows. So I REALLY hesitate to give her anything else. I am already blamed for upgrading from 98. It is a temporary networking as she graduates as a teacher in Nov and can go anywhere in Queensland then. Oh! for peace a nd quiet again. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: XP to XP
At 05:53 PM 19/07/2003 -0700, you wrote: On 07/19/03 17:19, Keith Antoine wrote: Just checked the downstairs machine and that can piong this upstairs machine under XP on both, but its not seeing the net. It appears not to be able to resolve the addresses. I do not have any DNS settings downstairs as I do not have any stable IP I can use. Can you explain how you have no DNS IP address? XP uses dhcp to setup its network therefore ther is no dns shown. As I do not have any IP's that I can use there are non on the lan machine downstairs. Skippy ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: network to xp to xp
At 07:26 PM 19/07/2003 -0700, you wrote: As Lonni pointed out, you need to set up your DNS ip's in XP. If you don't, your XP boxes will never traverse outside your internal home network, and out onto the internet. I think if your user setting has the rights, you can adjust the settings for the NIC via... Start == My Network Places == Nic Device Advanced Settings = DNS settings. Well after My Network places there is no Nic Device etc. I can set up DNS if I had IP's to place in there but I do not have any. I am on cable and do not have any primary IP's. Skippy ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: small network problem
At 08:22 PM 19/07/2003 -0700, you wrote: --- Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 19 July 2003 07:51 am, Matthew Carpenter wrote: Is DNS working on the Linux box? (if that's where you are running it from) No AFAIK, its just setup by mandarke to share the net. Whoa, wait a minute...what about your /etc/hosts.allow fileis your subnet permitted to connect? As I have said before my memory will not work re networking anymore. I used the Mandrake Control Centre to share the internet it has worked perfectly before. I Do NOT remember how to do networking via a command line. If I do not do something often the I totally forget how I did it, 2 weeks is too long to retain memory. Sorry but it has to be explained in very simple step[ terms for me these days. A cryptic question as you ask means nothing to me. That is why partly why I unsubbed. ITS bloody frustrating. Skippy ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: network to xp to xp
On Sunday 20 July 2003 08:48 am, tom marinis wrote:
Start == My Network Places == Local Area Connection ==
{ I don't know if you can right click that one or not}
Internet Protocol TCP/IP Properties==
In the General Dialogue box, you should have at the top
something that says 'Connect using ' and your NIC
descriptor.
BIG SNIP
I would, if I were you, select the 'USE the following IP'
and fill out the IP and Subnet info that you had before
here.
Ok now I follow you, however the way to get there is now very different.
Then move further downward, and select the 'Use the
following DNS server addresses', and fill in the Primary
and Secondary DNS server ip addresses for this computer.
You may have to move on to the ADVANCED SECTION to fill
in the settings.
I have done this already and setup as per the mail, 192.168.1.2
255.255.255.0 and gateway 192.168.1.1
Those are all the IP's that i can use seeing that I do not have access
to any DNS IP's. Optusnet use dymanic only.
Click okay once, make sure that your at the General box
for 'Local Area Connection Properties', and move the mouse
pointer over the NIC icon again, and click on the icon.
The new network settings should take effect right about
then.
I'd open the browser and try to surf a webpage to see if
the settings took.
Linux box sees the internet ok from the cable modem and other nic
eth1. I setup eth0 192.168.1.1 and 255.255.255.0. The cable modem is also usb
and it sees that as another nic, so I disabled it.
--
Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY'
18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161
Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage
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Re: XP to XP
On Sunday 20 July 2003 02:01 pm, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: XP defaults to dhcp - meaning MS has that button checked - but that assumes there is a dhcp server somewhere. On my XP machine I have a fixed address. You can change it in the network setup. Yes that is true and I have tried both without avail. Using dhcp it comes up with some really wierd IP that has no like on the network. On the otherhand I can setup as I have explained in another mail both machines manually. Mine can get out to the not fine, but not the downstairs machine, but they can ping. So its not resolving the addresses ? -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: small network problem
On Sunday 20 July 2003 08:57 am, James Conner wrote: Here's a site that has a Step-by-Step using the gui to configure Mandrake 9.0 to WinXP. Dunno if this will help or not. http://www.tweakhound.com/mdk9/mdk9net.htm Jim Many thanks for taking the trouble to reply. However what the article does is to network and fileshare XP and Linux, whilst all I want to do is share the internet interface and NOT fileshare. What frustartes me is the ease with which the setup I had 'disappeared' and now getting it reconnected is being a pain. Just as much as it lost the XP to XP ability too, how can XP and linux on my machine lose networking at the same time? -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
network problem: internet sharing
I seem to have given may an incorrect version of my internet sharing problem. The problem is NOT that I cannot share my machine with daughters downstairs machine, but that I cannot share theinternet connection. This does not entail any file sharing on either machine and is normally done both in XP and in Mandrake 9.x via aGUI interface. This has always worked in the past on may other machines that i have installed. However not this monster. OUTPUT of ifconfig: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:E0:18:F1:BE:AE inet addr:192.168.1.1 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:11 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:13 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:2725 (2.6 Kb) TX bytes:2546 (2.4 Kb) Interrupt:11 Base address:0xb000 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:E0:18:FE:6E:70 inet addr:210.49.48.75 Bcast:210.49.48.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:715 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:42 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:54804 (53.5 Kb) TX bytes:3624 (3.5 Kb) Interrupt:5 Base address:0x2000 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:56 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:56 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:3800 (3.7 Kb) TX bytes:3800 (3.7 Kb) OUTPUT of route: [EMAIL PROTECTED] kantoine]# route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 210.49.48.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth1 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 00 lo default 210.49.48.1.opt 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth1 OUTPUT of ping to downstairs machine: [EMAIL PROTECTED] kantoine]# ping 192.168.1.2 PING 192.168.1.2 (192.168.1.2) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128 time=0.246 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=128 time=0.228 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=3 ttl=128 time=0.219 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=4 ttl=128 time=0.222 ms Now if I go downstairs I cannot ping to this machine 192.168.1.1 nor can I 'see' the net with a browser. This is irrespective of the OS on this upstairs machine. So there is something wrong on the downstairs machine or the connection to this machine !! Logic dictates that. No the nic leads are fine as I would not be able to ping downstairs and the cards would have X on them. Question what moves do you suggest that I make now, given the above. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
