Re: Novell buys SuSE!
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 17:02, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: Are you using Calendars from the exchange server? Yep. Been working fine. I don't get invited to very many meetings but the ones I have gotten and I've replied to have added nicely to the calender. The same with ones that I've sent out. They updated the calender fine. But like I said, I don't do those very often. It has also worked well just for my basic calendering needs of adding an item and setting a reminder. What version of Evolution are you running? How about of GTK and all that? Running it on RH 9 and KDE. 1.4.5 on Evolution. GTK+ 1.2.10-25 and GTK2-2.2.1-4. Connector 1.4.5. I keep these updated via Ximian Red Carpet. And what version of exchange server do you access? 2000 Here it crashes just about every time when closing. In the previous release, it was also crashing when it was started. I was having that problem with 1.4.4 I believe but it went away when I upgraded to 1.4.5. I think ximiam had released a fix pretty quickly IIRC. We have Evolution 1.4.5 and gtk 2.4.0. I don't know what the version of exchange server is running. It has just been updated, so it is surely recent. Strange. I know that you have to have outlook web access enablde for it work work right. Could that be part of it? Tom Wilson McSwain Carpets 513.771.1400 x124 - The savior becomes the victim. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Problem booting from disk
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 13:31, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: [snip of tales of woe] In a previous message I mentioned that it also balks on booting from the previous HD, claiming problems with the ReiserFS partition (which should have been fine after a gentle shut down). This implies a problem with the hardware of the motherboard, or the BIOS, to my non-hardware oriented mind. Not being facetious but have you set the HD jumpers to be the master or stand-alone? Make sure the IDE cable is plugged into the mb with the pins aligned right? Older motherboards often don't have the guides on them. Also, some bioses (IBM's come to mind) keep giving the error until you enter the bios and exit saving changes. Tom Wilson McSwain Carpets 513.771.1400 x124 - No matter how old a mother is, she watches her middle-aged children for signs of improvement. -- Florida Scott-Maxwell ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 16:35, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: I have been curious what this means for the Ximian desktop. Novell also bought them. Perhaps a merging of the two? Does this mean SuSE will become more Gnome-ish? That would be too bad, IMHO. But I would love to see Evolution grow. Maybe not crash all the time when connecting to an Outhouse server. The irony is that the one part of Evolution I have actually paid for is the one part that does not work. The rest I like very much. Bumped Sylpheed of the desk... I'm using the exchange connector at work and it is fine. It occasionally crashes but not even at a rate that is annoying. Maybe once every couple weeks at the most. After a crash I run 'evolution --force-shutdown' and it always comes right back up and hums along smoothly. Tom Wilson McSwain Carpets 513.771.1400 x124 - A word to the wise is enough. -- Miguel de Cervantes ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: colors in lynx
On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 15:44, Jorge Almeida wrote: Hi, Would somebody tell me what to do to customize colors in lynx? Above all, I want to get rid of that hateful black background... I tried to edit lynx.cfg with no success whatsoever. Thanks in advance. Jorge Almeida Hello, It may depend on how it was compiled as to what you can do with colors. Check it out there. http://www.hippo.ru/%7Ehvv/lynxcfg_toc.html There is a visual appearance link that has a colors option on it. Tom Wilson McSwain Carpets 513.771.1400 x124 - Nothing astonishes men so much as common sense and plain dealing. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Apt question
On Monday 10 November 2003 03:18 pm, Aaron Grewell's voice rose above the ones in my head and stated: [snips of sources file] I commented out the Sid stuff to see if I could force it to use the experimental stuff, but when I run apt-get upgrade it says: Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. I went into http://http.us.debian.org/debian/project/experimental/main/binary-i38 6/Packa ges to make sure the packages for 4.3 were listed there. They are. So how do I get APT to recognize them? Did you do an apt-get update before the apt-get upgrade after you changed you sources.list file? If you didn't, apt is still hitting the sid repository instead of the experimental. -- Tom Wilson Reg. Linux user# 199331 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: KDE screensaver problem
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 22:10, Alan Jackson wrote: I have one of those little nagging problems that mystifies me. I'm running gentoo 2.4.20-r6 with KDE 3.1.2. The problem? I cannot get the screensaver to work. I set it up, the test works fine, but then it never automatically starts. Has anyone seen this before? I have a similar problem. Sometimes the screensave kicks in, sometimes it doesn't. If the screensaver hasn't started after the set time, open a terminal and do a ps -ef. Look for a process that has something like kdedesktop_lock or desktop_lock or something like that. I can't remember exactly what it is but it has the lock at the end. Kill that process and the screensaver should kick on. HTH, Tom Wilson McSwain Carpets 513.771.1400 x124 - You will overcome the attacks of jealous associates. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: KDE screensaver problem
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 09:15, Tom Wilson wrote: On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 22:10, Alan Jackson wrote: I have one of those little nagging problems that mystifies me. I'm running gentoo 2.4.20-r6 with KDE 3.1.2. The problem? I cannot get the screensaver to work. I set it up, the test works fine, but then it never automatically starts. Has anyone seen this before? I have a similar problem. Sometimes the screensave kicks in, sometimes it doesn't. If the screensaver hasn't started after the set time, open a terminal and do a ps -ef. Look for a process that has something like kdedesktop_lock or desktop_lock or something like that. I can't remember exactly what it is but it has the lock at the end. Kill that process and the screensaver should kick on. I just had the problem and here is the exact name of the process. It is '/usr/bin/kdesktop_lock'. Kill that process and the screensaver will come on next time. Tom Wilson McSwain Carpets 513.771.1400 x124 - It is better for civilization to be going down the drain than to be coming up it. -- Henry Allen ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Star Office 7
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 21:16, Chong Yu Meng wrote: Bruce Marshall wrote: Well gee... I guess at 65 and having bought from Sun, I feel 2. times better than you do... :-) That's amazing ! I thought most of the people on this list were in their 30's, because you guys sound so young ! I'm probably the youngest here, I expect (I'm 34). But I am also very aware of time being in short supply , but money is also one of my main worries! Regards, pascal chong Not quite the youngest. I'm coming in at 33. And I've seen Net Llama mention he is in his 20's, maybe 26. There are a few of us youngun's out here. Tom Wilson McSwain Carpets 513.771.1400 x124 - Sic transit gloria mundi. [So passes away the glory of this world.] -- Thomas `a Kempis ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Question
On Monday 03 November 2003 04:18 pm, Rick Sivernell's voice rose above the ones in my head and stated: lIST I have a Dell Latitude cpx laptop. I have a pcmcia lan card now running perfectly, but a school they have setup a wireless system. It will auto on systems, my question is leave the lan pcmcia at home and use the wireless at school, what do I need to do to make this work? Can I do this, I assume so. I can get a new netgear wireless for $70.00, is this too much? If they are using encryption you generally need the passphrase or encryption codes to gain access to the wireless network. As far as cards go, I would recommend getting Orinoco. They right around the same price as the Netgear and I've have had good experiences with them. And make sure you get the same 802.11 standard your school is using or a multi standard card (which are more expensive). -- Tom Wilson Reg. Linux user# 199331 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: rdesktop and Win Terminal $erver
On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 23:12, Michael Hipp wrote: Rdesktop works like a champ as a way to get into a W2k Server box and run Win apps. But it appears it will only work for 90 days unless I cough up some *more* $ to MS. (I own more licenses of various MS junk than any 3 people I know. The idea of having to buy yet another license in order to run apps on an O/S I already own seems ludicrous). Is there some alternative? Michael It isn't rdesktop that is the problem. It would be your temporary TS access license expiring. The only way I can think of to trick it is change the name of your pc connecting to it. It may issue a new temporary license then. There used to be an option, -l I think, that was for don't request a license. But it looks like it was done away with. Do you have any purchased TS CAL's at all for the server? If so, rdesktop should pick one up just fine. At least it has for me. I use it at the office and at home to login remotely. Haven't had a problem with either. If not, I dunno. You may have to pay the devil. Tom Wilson McSwain Carpets 513.771.1400 x124 - Thus mathematics may be defined as the subject in which we never know what we are talking about, nor whether what we are saying is true. -- Bertrand Russell ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: This is just a test
On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 06:55, Robert E.Raymond wrote: On Friday 31 October 2003 6:31, David A. Bandel wrote: On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:20:29 -0500 Robert E.Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] If you're wondering why a home user would want sendmail for himself, I just want it so I can send large files by email to people who don't have enough FTP upload accounts, as the Earthlink SMTP server has a 10 MB filesize limit. So why don't _you_ set up an FTP server they can d/l stuff from? 10MB+ e-mails? SMTP was never designed for that kind of nonsense. Called using the right tool for the job (ftp, rsync). Is it possible to do an ftp server with dialup where the IP address changes every time I log on and I don't have a domain registered anywhere so a DNS service would be useless? Have you looked at dyndns.org or one of the similar services? That may be what you need. Tom Wilson McSwain Carpets 513.771.1400 x124 - System going down at 5 this afternoon to install scheduler bug. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: This is just a test
On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 11:04, Robert E.Raymond wrote: See, the thing about a place like that, I'd need to reg a domain, right? I'm trying to do this for free, which sendmail and ftp both are. I just need to send the guy files periodically (right now is one of those times ;)), and I suppose I could mail him a CD but it's certainly cheaper to just send him the files. I'm not sure but it definately helps. :-) Does you ISP offer free web hosting? If they do and depending on the amount of space they offer for free, you could always make a website and post the files there for downloading. Tom Wilson McSwain Carpets 513.771.1400 x124 - Hofstadter's Law: It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take Hofstadter's Law into account. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: backwards
On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 19:45, Kurt Wall wrote: Quoth Net Llama!: http://www.linux-sxs.org.mirror.sytes.org/ It kinda reminds me of www.pornolize.com. Go there and enter a URL in their search field and it brings up the page you entered with various uhh, colorful words and sayings, sprinkled throughout. It can be quite funny. Tom Wilson McSwain Carpets 513.771.1400 x124 - The game of life is a game of boomerangs. Our thoughts, deeds and words return to us sooner or later with astounding accuracy. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Multifunction-printer recommendations?
On Monday 27 October 2003 03:01 pm, Matthew Carpenter's voice rose above the ones in my head and stated: I am looking for a good MFP which is Linux-friendly, prints well, with decent color and text quality. My target price is about $150. Does anyone have any recommendations? Faxing and printing are the important parts. I don't really need a scanner (HPSJ4P still works great). Thanks! Matt I've had good experiences with HP G85. It does it all; Fax, print, copy, scan. It works well with Linux. There is a driver for in in RH9 (for printing) so I imagine there is one in any other modern distro. It is an inkjet though if that is OK. The downside is I believe it is out of the price range you want. I believe the go for around $300-$400. -- Tom Wilson Reg. Linux user# 199331 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: BarbieOS anyone?
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 23:36, Collins Richey wrote: Ok, who'll be first to try BarbieOS 1.0? It's debian based; if it's named gnu/barbie, I'll puke. http://linuxtoday.com/developer/2003102400226NWCY I wish this was for real. My daughter would eat something like that up. She would love to have her own little laptop to tote around. -- Tom Wilson McSwain Carpets 513.771.1400 x124 - Xerox does it again and again and again and ... ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I need a distro recommendation!
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 16:23, Robert E. Raymond wrote: Terence McCarthy wrote: On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:20:23 + Robert E. Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP! Rehat is too buggy. Gentoo takes too long. Debian leaves you with a bad taste in your mouth. You don't want to pay for SuSE. You also want Ease of use after installation, lack of show-stopping bugs (i.e. no workarounds just to get on the web to get mail- we had that with Redhat on the laptop), and fast setup are of main importance (oh yeah.. free as well) Why don't you try M$ Windows? (The only problem there is you will have to pay for it- but then, nothing in life is free) Terence ___ That's actually what I try to tell him (gasp!) as he's really about the most computer-illiterate person I've ever seen.. and Windows is already on there... but n.. he wants Linux... You could always try one of the rookie distros. Lycoris, Lindows, or Xandros. Don't have a clue of how they would do on a laptop. I'm actually looking into testing one of these on my brother, who is also completely computer illiterate. He just got an old p133 pc and DSL. He wants to get a new pc and I've been thinking of having him order one of the Wal-mart specials with either Lindows or Lycoris. But I don't know squat about either of them so I have been putting it off. Good luck. Tom Wilson McSwain Carpets 513.771.1400 x124 -- The luck that is ordained for you will be coveted by others. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I need a distro recommendation!
On Friday 17 October 2003 05:49 pm, Collins Richey's voice rose above the ones in my head and stated: So the choices are free/not-free, good/sloppy, quick/slow. You may not find an optimal answer. Kinda like the old you can get it good and fast but it ain't gonna be cheap. You can get it fast and cheap, but it ain't gonna be good. You can get it cheap and good, but it ain't gonna be fast. -- Tom Wilson Reg. Linux user# 199331 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: sharing an inbox in kmail
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 23:36, Andrew Mathews wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Wilson wrote: | Hi all | | My wife and I have an e-mail address that we share for general | corresponce with friends and family. She is getting tired of having | to have me login under my username so she can see any e-mail that she | gets that I happened to download. | | Any recommendations on a method so we can share the inbox for our shared | e-mail account? | [...] If you have the ability to use IMAP4 instead of POP3 this would solve the problem immediately. If not, it's multiple copies of email on multiple machines (why I went to IMAP4 instead). According to my ISP's web site they only use POP3 for home users. Maybe I should call and find out for sure. Thanks Andrew, --Tom Wilson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: sharing an inbox in kmail
On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 11:19, Bruce Marshall wrote: On Friday 03 October 2003 23:36 pm, Andrew Mathews wrote: Tom Wilson wrote: | Hi all | | My wife and I have an e-mail address that we share for general | corresponce with friends and family. She is getting tired of | having to have me login under my username so she can see any e-mail | that she gets that I happened to download. | | Any recommendations on a method so we can share the inbox for our | shared e-mail account? [...] If you have the ability to use IMAP4 instead of POP3 this would solve the problem immediately. If not, it's multiple copies of email on multiple machines (why I went to IMAP4 instead). Or use fetchmail and procmail to make two copies of each email. And procmail could do spam filtering (spamassassin) as well as backing up each incoming email as well as other filtering. I was looking into setting this up. Seemed a bit much just for one e-mail address but it may be the best way in the long run. Thanks, --Tom Wilson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: sharing an inbox in kmail
On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 12:48, Mike Reinehr wrote: This would be my preferred solution, as well. Otherwise, I believe the following would work, as well. Kmail stores all your messages in ~/Mail, that is, a Mail subdirectory in your home directory. Using your login, configure Kmail as you would like it. Then, under her login configure Kmail identically. Then, replace the ~/Mail subdirectory in her home directory (or yours) with a link pointing to the other ~/Mail subdirectory. Next, make sure all permissions relating to the ~/Mail subdirectories and any and all files and subdirectories therein are readable, writeable and searchable by both of you. Both of you should then be able to login as appropriate, check and send e-mail, as long as you're not both logged in simultaneously. No warranty expressed or implied! :-) mike I had tried this once and never quite got the permissions right. I may give it a whirl again. --Thanks, --Tom Wilson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: sharing an inbox in kmail
On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 09:49, Harry Giles wrote: Create the account on both users Kmail, but set it to leave messages on the server. Then both will get copies. Every now and then (or when you get a warning from your server telling you are reaching your limit) set one of them to delete the messages on the server, check the mail once or twice, and set it back to leave messages on server. This will clear the server. Many thanks for the idea. I didn't think of that one. --Tom Wilson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: sharing an inbox in kmail
On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 23:02, burns wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 23:05, Tom Wilson wrote: Hi all My wife and I have an e-mail address that we share for general corresponce with friends and family. She is getting tired of having to have me login under my username so she can see any e-mail that she gets that I happened to download. Any recommendations on a method so we can share the inbox for our shared e-mail account? I looked at Kmail filtering a copy of every message downloaded into her $HOME/Mail/inbox file but there is only a move to option not a copy to. If you can put up with Ximian Evolution mail, their filter rules allow you to 'Copy To' a specified folder or mailbox, et volia! Is there a way to import mail from kmail with Evolution. I messed with using it when I initially setup op this pc but I couldn't get all my mail from Kmail to import to it. Same problem with sylpheed. So I stuck with using Kmail. I use Evolution at work (As I send these e-mails from it) and I like it ok. Thanks. --Tom Wilson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
sharing an inbox in kmail
Hi all My wife and I have an e-mail address that we share for general corresponce with friends and family. She is getting tired of having to have me login under my username so she can see any e-mail that she gets that I happened to download. Any recommendations on a method so we can share the inbox for our shared e-mail account? I looked at Kmail filtering a copy of every message downloaded into her $HOME/Mail/inbox file but there is only a move to option not a copy to. I also though that copying the inbox from my $HOME/Mail directory over to hers via a nightly cron job would work but then there is the problem of her not wanting to keep certain e-mails that I would and vice versa and her inbox being overwritten. Plus permission problems, etc. I don't know procmail but did a little research on it and it seems to be overkill for this minor task. Although I'd like to learn to use it for spam filtering. But I don't have sendmail running on the desktop machine. And the recieving of pop mail is done via Kmail. Not q-popper or fetchmail or any such thing. Any advice, tips, pointers, or ideas on how to get this working? TIA, -- Tom Wilson Reg. Linux user# 199331 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: linux network administration guide
On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 18:53, zohar wrote: I want to know about various configuration files in Linux. I tried Linux network administration guide of Orally but that book was made in 2000 and also does not over many of the configuration files of system utilities. Can you please help me to go to correct web page . Thanx in advance. Zohar Have you tried looking at www.linux.org and cruising to documentation. I don't know if what you are looking for is there specifically but it should be a good jump point to finding some of the info you need. -- Tom Wilson McSwain Carpets Programming today is a race between software developers trying to build bigger, better, idiot proof programs and the Universe trying to build bigger, better idiots. So far the Universe is winning. --Robert Cringely signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Displaying octal numbers in bash
Joel Hammer wrote: I understand that bash will do arithmetic in octal if you prefix the constant with 0. So: a=05 b=017 c=$((a*b)) echo $c yields 75 This is the correct answer, but it is in decimals, not octals. Is there a way to make echo display octal? Thanks, Joel More arithmetic? echo $((8#$c*1)) gives 61 Tom Wekell ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OTprogrammer humor
I have an uncle that plays in a jug band that does a spoof of this tune. I think it is call Doe Ray Me? and yes it is from the Sound of Music. Thier take: Dos a beer, a mexican beer Ray a guy who buy's me beer Me a guy I buy beer for Far a long from the bar So let's have another beer La la la la la la la Tea is not as good as beer So lets go and drink some beer They end every set the play with that little diddy. --Tom Wilson On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 11:23, Douglas J Hunley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I don't remember what the name of this song is, but it's from 'The Sound of Music', IIRC: DO, a loop, a normal loop, Array, a 2-D storage space, Me, recursion, I call myself, Bar, a variable to chase. No, a value meaning not, Yes, a term to follow No, C, a lang where will rot, That will bring us back to DO, Array, Me, Bar, No, Yes, C, DO, A loop, a . . . - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 http://doug.hunley.homeip.net http://www.linux-sxs.org How about never? Is never good for you? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/bxPn2MO5UukaubkRAsuzAKCvAZiZrz6f7+qTYku22XBJdPU+/ACdGtH0 efFJ4HFOsC5Yl37CuPdoqG0= =mIw+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: RH 5.2 Printing
--- Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know RH 5.2 is anciant but that is what is used for accounting where I work. It is well hidden behind a firewall and seen only by the intranet. We've moved to a new location and have made a lot of changes. The intranet use to be in the 199.xxx.xx.xxx series and is now 192.168.x.xxx. The accounting software (accessed via telnet from a win98 box) works as it should, almost. It will no longer print from the RH box. The printer is on a win98 box and yes its ip has changed from 199.xxx.xx.xxx to 168.192.x.xxx. I've looked at printcap an and filter but I can not find where the entry would be as to location of printer would be. I ran across this before but can't remember what I had to do to get this working. Any help would be welcome. Hmm, I have used it, but from memory... I think Red Hat 5.2 has the typical config file you want modified located at ; /etc/printcap I think there is a ncurses utility much like the COAS utility. Maybe try something called from the command line like; printtool [ I can't remember exactly, sorry TED ] But, I'm thinkin' you may also be able to change the settings from the /etc/lpd.conf file, right? HTH __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Server question
On Friday 12 September 2003 13:52, burns carved in granite: How do you plan on configuring security? Well, a firewall set up using ShoreWall to control iptables. Don't ask me what settings, yet, except that the only open ports will be for SCP, SSH and Apache. SSH SCP will go through RSA encryption authentication. i.e., unless I put the public key onto the server a user isn't getting in. So far there is only one person who needs access -- me. It will probably stay that way. I've probably overlooked something here, too, so suggestions are welcome. In Harmony's Way and In A Chord, Tom ;-}) Tom. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 Plain Text Emails Don't Spread Virii ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Server question
On Thursday 11 September 2003 17:56, Kurt Wall carved in granite: My current plans include only the following services on this server: Apache SSH iptables Shorewall Anyone care to suggest what I've left out? SSL? Mail? Backup? Log analysis tools (ModLogAn, Webalizer)? Kurt SSL is in (I considered it, incorrectly, part of Apache). No mail on this server. Backup, ah, yes. Better do that. It has a CD burner, and the temptation is to use CD-RW for the sites. The size is small enough. Thanks. Log tools, ditto the thanks. Someone also mentioned DB. I'll check with the creator of the other site that it will host. None of the sites currently on it requre DB support. Thanks again, all. As a novice at servers I *knew* I'd left several things out. In Harmony's Way and In A Chord, Tom ;-}) Tom. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 Plain Text Emails Don't Spread Virii ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Test[ing again] - No need to reply
On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 03:22, Jean Sagi wrote: Lotto? What do you mean?... Baloto perhaps... Chucho! Here in America, many states have what they call a Lotto. What happens is you go to a local convenience store and purchase a Lotto ticket for a US $1 a ticket. They usually have 6 numbers on them from 1 to 40 or so. Then once a week they draw numbers out of a contraption that has a bunch of numbered ping pong balls in it and you hope that the six you picked (or had randomly generated) on your ticket are the same six that pop up out of the ball machine. Is so you win the jackpot of generally some tens to hundreds of millions of dollars. Most people don't win. Thus you have to pretty lucky if you do. --Tom Wilson ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: More SCO Humor
On Saturday 30 August 2003 21:04, Kurt Wall carved in granite: Here: http://www.kurtwerks.com/humor/index.html Kurt Regarding the picture of the workers on the RF tower: I've just found an old copy of this that tells that the picture was taken by Vincent Laforet of the New York Times. It was part of a bunch of working conditions pictures I received in January. In Harmony's Way and In A Chord, Tom ;-}) Tom. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 Plain Text Emails Don't Spread Virii ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Redhat 9.0 /usr/src/linux-2.4.x won't compile
James McDonald wrote: RedHatters, I have installed RH9.0 and the kernel-source*.rpm When I cd into /usr/src/linux-2.4.x and run make oldconfig or cp /boot/config-2.4.x to /usr/src/linux-2.4.x/.config use `make xconfig' to add ntfs filesystem support and run `make dep bzImage modules' It fails every time with compile errors However downloading the latest 2.4.22 source and compiling it using the /boot/config-2.4.x file with just ntfs support enabled works. Can anyone tell me if they have successfully compiled the default RH source or is it just there to add 30MB+ to the system? Have you installed the RH supplied kernel headers? As I recall, RH doesn't install them on install, you have to do by hand. I can't remember if their in the first installation CD, or the Source CD's. HTH. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Why all this- Undeliverable Mail
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 13:45, Douglas J Hunley wrote: are you guys actually getting the virus or just notices that a virus was caught? - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 http://doug.hunley.homeip.net http://www.linux-sxs.org I have not received the virus. Just a bunch of notices from some virus scanners saying they received a copy of the virus from the linux-users list. Obviously the address has been spoofed. And now the list is spammed by automagic messages from virus scanners. --Tom Wilson ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Video card
Joel Hammer wrote: Good idea. which `gcc` returns: /usr/local/bin/gcc and file `which gcc` shows a binary file. strings `which gcc` shows version 2.95.3, which is what I think I am using. I went the extra step and recompiled my modules and make'd modules_install. However, depmod wouldn't work, never has on this machine. I still get the same error when I try to compile the NV kernel module, the NV install script complaining about the compiler version being different from the one used to compile the running kernel. uname -a show the newly compiled kernel is running. I would put this card into another computer (one of my lindows boxes, for example) but those kernels come precompiled and there is little chance the compiler I have downloaded was used to compile those kernels. So, until I can find which Makefile into which I have to insert the IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH directive, I appear to be stuck. Joel On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 07:20:14PM -0700, Ken Moffat wrote: joel wrote: Yes, I wouldn't lie about something like this. The nvidia install script has its own ideas about which compiler it is using. Are there any other names for the compiler except gcc? I have searched my box for gcc and cc and all I get is /usr/bin/gcc. Nothing else. Joel Generally gcc is a link to gcc-2.95 or gcc-3.2 or 3.3. If you ls -l /usr/bin/gcc* you'll see what's there to choose from. You can change the link to point to a different version. I'm sorry for jumping in late, but maybe you installed and mixed files, binaries, and libraries for all your GCC stuff? I always check for gcc version like this; $ gcc --version Here is what I've done in my case. KURT and DAVID BANDEL, Andrew Mathews, and Net Llama pointed me in the right direction, although it took awhile to for me comprehend and understand their advice. ;) I wanted to upgrade the compilers, be able to quickly dump them when necessary, but still retain the original compiler intact; installed gcc version 2.95, 3.1, 3.2, 3.2.2 in the following manner; /usr/local/share/gcc/version_number/ When I built all my installation files for the compiler, I placed them all under that particular directory, so say for instance 2.95.3, which I learned was the wrong thing to do, but it worked...It makes deleting them very easy now, since I merely dump that particular directory. So, for instance, 2.95.3 looked like and had all the compiler files in the following locations. /usr/local/share/gcc/2.95.3/bin /usr/local/share/gcc/2.95.3/lib /usr/local/share/gcc/2.95.3/include /usr/local/share/gcc/2.95.3/info /usr/local/share/gcc/2.95.3/man /usr/local/share/gcc/2.95.3/i686-pc-linux Then I edited my /etc/.bashrc file for the root account, and then add a export for the particular compiler I want to use. I merely had to specify the /bin directory of that particular compiler. When I tried the first time, I was using the Caldera 3.1.1 distro, and the compiler I wanted to use was for all users, so I copied and saved, then changed the /etc/.bashrc file to something like this... You may want to save and then alter your root .bashrc file, and have a statment order that specify the compiler you wish to use first, pointing to that particular binary. [ typically, /usr/local/bin ] What my setup looked like, what I did. The Original /etc/.bashrc statement; tab means insert tab here... # try to generate an elaborate PATH ... _p=$HOME/bin [ $UID = 0 ]tab _p=$_p /usr/local/bin /sbin /usr/sbin === My modified /etc/.bashrc statement; I exchange /usr/local/bin for /usr/local/share/gcc/2.95.3/bin NOTE: the last line is all one line... tab means insert tab here... # try to generate an elaborate PATH ... _p=$HOME/bin [ $UID = 0 ]tab _p=$_p usr/local/share/gcc/2.95.3/bin /sbin /usr/sbin Next, The compiler specific included libraries. I had to include them for the particular compiler. I had to modify the /etc/ld.so.conf file to see them, so I had to edit that file. The original /etc/ld.so.conf; /usr/X11R6/lib /opt/kde/lib /opt/kde2/lib /usr/lib/qt2/lib The modified version of /etc/ld.so.conf; /usr/X11R6/lib /opt/kde/lib /opt/kde2/lib /usr/lib/qt2/lib /usr/local/share/gcc/2.95.3/lib /usr/local/share/gcc/2.95.3/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux/2.95.3/ Then load the cache, as root, $ ldconfig -v I confirm the cache contents by doing this... $ ldconfig -p Done. I have yet to figure out how to reload the current libraries loaded on boot up by Linux. If I knew, it would be a matter of simply stopping and restarted or rather, reloading the libraries required. I was stuck with rebooting the computer, but since I was the only user, it didn't matter. HTH. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: More SCO Humor
On Sunday 31 August 2003 14:16, Kurt Wall carved in granite: Excellent! But I have to wonder about the cubicle picture - what happens if someone in the middle of a row suddenly has to go to the loo *really* bad? Pee in a cup? Which solves both the speed problem and the drug testing problem at once. This looks distinctly like Sundstrand when I worked there. You get in 5 minutes of real work, then you start heading for the can. By the time you get back to your desk you can work for another 5 minutes before it is time to start out again... ;-}) And then they wonder why you don't get enough work done for the optimistic schedule they sold to the customers. In Harmony's Way and In A Chord, Tom ;-}) Tom. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 Plain Text Emails Don't Spread Virii ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Apache setup help [SOLVED]
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 19:13, Kurt Wall carved in granite: Directory /web/site.burps/htdocs Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory Do be sure to restart Apache. Also have a look at the server logs. Thanks, Kurt, Tim and all the others who helped. I found a version of this Directory directive in the /etc/apache/conf/commonapache.conf file which was included in the /etc/apache/conf/apache.conf file. Except the version was for directory / and was set Deny from all. Fixing this fixed it and now I can deliver a website. Thanks again. In Harmony's Way and In A Chord, Tom ;-}) Tom. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 Plain Text Email Does Not Spread Virii ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Kudos
Douglas J Hunley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 burns shocked and awed us all by speaking: listing issued by a vigilante group in the Netherlands. Their rationale was that the SxS listserver uses DHCP, and many rogue spam servers also employ DHCP. What utter BS - that's like banning the use of computers unfortunately, AOL uses the same rationale to justify doing the exact same thing. I've since figured out a way to get email to AOL (same method I used for your email), but sadly, most of the AOL people who were on this list don't know that they can get back on... :( Ah, but I don't want you receive too much spam from the AOL site :) I'll try it though, might be interesting ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT VBscript in html: Security threat?
--- Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see that vbscript can be embedded in html. [snipped for length] Ever since its conception. Who in his right mind would use vbscript over javascript in their html, anyway? Why would you keep out anyone not using IE and a modern version of windows? (Let me guess. People who use MS development products.) Thanks, Joel As KURT mentioned in his reply, it happens. I mean, after all, you did hear about the 'ILUVYOU' virus awhile back, right? That was a VBSCRIPT virus, and look what inconvience it did when it went around...Well, except for the Open Source/Non-MS platform users ... __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Test
On Tuesday 26 August 2003 21:17, burns carved in granite: radio check, over There are no checks in radio buttons, only in check boxes. In Harmony's Way and In A Chord, Tom ;-}) Tom. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 A Jester Unemployed ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Apache setup help
On Tuesday 26 August 2003 17:45, Kurt Wall carved in granite: This hardly seems sufficient. This is one situation where using the sample httpd.conf file will help you. It seems long, but it's mostly comments. Entries I change ServerAdmin ServerName CustomLog User Group DocumentRoot After you make your changes, run apachectl configtest to validate your configuration file. Thanks. The syntax is OK according to apachectl. I set: ServerName spyder.condonia.org User webuser Group webgroup DocumentRoot /web/site.burps/htdocs This URL contains the same HTML code that I'm working with: http://www.eskimo.com/~tomc/BURPS.html so it looks pretty clean as far as HTML goes. I do not have an index.html doc in that directory. Having made these changes to apache.conf I restarted apache, then tried again. I get: ** Forbidden You don't have permission to access /BURPS.html on this server. --- Apache/1.3.27 Server at spyder.condonia.org Port 80 ** This happens when I access it either through the name or the IP. I checked, and changed all of the /web directories and files to be owned by webuser:webgroup. No effect. I know better than to leave it that way, and will be changing it back momentarily. The config file has no Allow or Deny in any combination of cases. Next step? In Harmony's Way and In A Chord, Tom ;-}) Tom. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 A Jester Unemployed ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Apache setup help
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 04:29, Tim Wunder carved in granite: What are the permissions on the directory: web/site.burps/htdocs and the file: web/site.burps/htdocs/BURPS.html Permissions on the directories are 755 (drwxr-xr-x) and on all of the files are 544 (-rw-r--r--). In Harmony's Way and In A Chord, Tom ;-}) Tom. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 A Jester Unemployed ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Apache setup help
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 05:27, Tim Wunder carved in granite: Permissions on the directories are 755 (drwxr-xr-x) and on all of the files are 544 (-rw-r--r--). Well, that's not the problem, then :-( Is there another conf file that Apache may be looking at, possibly in /etc/httpd/conf.d, that might be messing things up? There is: /etc/apache/apache.conf That is the file I've been assuming makes a difference, since modifying the one in: /web/site.burps/conf had no effect. I just copied the /etc/apache/apache.conf file into /web/site.burps/conf/apache.conf and restarted apache with no change. There is no /etc/httpd directory, and I'm assuming that either the gentoo distribution folks or the apache folks have changed the structure to call it apache, since that is the command name, too. In Harmony's Way and In A Chord, Tom ;-}) Tom. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 A Jester Unemployed ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Email from 'Microsoft'
On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 07:12, David A. Bandel wrote: On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:09:18 -0700 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill Campbell wrote: the BSA extortionists hit them with about 80 grand in licensing charges. This was the straw that broke them, and the company went out of business. ouch! Same thing has happened here in Panama. The resurrected companies wnat nothing to do with M$. In this way, M$ often helps Linux by shooting itself in its own foot. They sure do. Along these lines, I read this story last week off of /. It particularly appealed to me because it involves the brand of guitar strings I use. It is a grand Linux success story. http://news.com.com/2008-1082_3-5065859.html?tag=lh --Tom Wilson ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT To all New Zealand SxS members
Ted Ozolins wrote: Collins Richey wrote: The one thing we Americans and Canadians have in common, besides the language, is the best politicians money can buy. They all suck. I just learned that the reason that we (here in B. C.) are short of manpower to address these fires is that a Workers Compaensation ruling requires that anyone fighting a forest fire must possess cirtification by the Forestry. I've heard of all kinds of stupidity but this takes the cake. I think its time for a class action suit against WCB. I can not believe that a private organization none of which are elected officials can pass laws. I thought that within the british-north amercan act states that only elected officials can pass laws here. Dang I better drop this. I was just out of highschool, and was tree-planter/firefighter for the summer in and around the Penticton area in mid 1987. The only WCB regs at that time were the requirements for safety gear ( you know, gloves, brain bucket, boots, cover alls ), a manditory 2 hr training course on how to fight forest fires, and a single guy with Industrial First Aid for crew of fire fighters. Back then it was; for every 5 man firefighter crew, you had to have a I.F.A. Level 1 ticket holder in the group. If the crew was 20 or over, the I.F.A. guy had to be LEVEL 3. Now your saying the volunteers firefighters need Forestry Certification ? What the heck is that exactly? Damn, things have changed a lot in BC since the mid 1990's. I never heard about this before, and I live here. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Open Source content management
Ian Stephen wrote: Hi all Is anyone familiar with the Typo3 content management system? http://typo3.com The Exec. Dir. of a non-profit I'm on the board of wants a quick yes or no whether to spend a fair chunk of coin on putting this system in place to help staff (who have no web experience) look after the website. Thanks for any info, I don't. But after taking a peek at the site, why not try it out for a while, as a test run? The site does offer a demo release. Could you not find a spare small PC and set up a inhouse demo server for them to try for around a month? The staff there could then tell you if it is worthwhile to pursue. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO fizzles
Kurt Wall wrote: Quoth Alma J Wetzker: Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu, 21 Aug 2003 21:50:19 -0400 Yes, but what will the jury think? Joel On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 07:21:49PM -0600, Collins Richey wrote: http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/smoking-fizzle.html That is the $3,000,000,000.00 question. It is a VERY safe bet that SCO will remove any juror that uses a computer, let alone can read code. So it all comes down to which expert witness is prettier. Which pretty much removes ESR and RMS from the running. :-) That said, self-promotion notwithstanding, ESR is very good at making complex technical issues clear. However, this is not about complex _technical_ issues, but, rather, about IBM's alleged contract violoations. SCOs trial-by-press-release is calcualated attempt to cloud the core legal issue: did IBM subvert the contract or not? Kurt Aww Kurt, you and Lonnie just had to open your mouths... http://newsforge.com/newsforge/03/08/22/1746248.shtml?tid=19 Well, now you both done it ! So, I guess when ESR goes to court, the sxs.org group led by Mr. A. Mathews will force you both to shave his legs for his court appearance when he testifies [ I can't do it, I still wanna live. The mere visualization of that event makes me wanna hurl... ] ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT To all New Zealand SxS members
Ted Ozolins wrote: burns wrote: I've also just heard from my sister-in-law that they are under evacuation notice as part of the forest fires in Kelowna, British Columbia (western Canada). The mountain behind their house is ablaze and ash is dropping on their front garden. Last night 25 houses further out were burned, although it's got a way to go yet to reach my in-laws. Their bags are packed in the front hallway. Guess people everywhere are coping with these things that get dropped on us. I'm across the lake from Kelowna and believe me its one heck of a scary sight. A large part of Kelown is under evacuation notice. Quite a few homes have been lost and more anticipated. This is one fire that should have been stopped dead in its track, but as always too little too late has created one heck of a mess here. At the begining the Forestry had four golden opertunities to stop the advance of this fire but they chose not to act. Its been a jurisdictional pissing match from the start and now a lot of good people are losing their homes. These homes are not ones in the interface but in the town itself. If there was any justice on earth, then only bureaucrats would perish in natural desasters. Here I go dreaming againsigh Well TED, you *could* make the recommendation to your friends that they file a claim in court. Make Premier Gordon Campbell and Minister De Jong personally and financially responsible for cutting 740 jobs out of the Forestry Ministry back in Jan 2002, and the 600 from WAter Land Air Protection services the year befor that, [ the argument: despite the advice against such actions, as recommended by the Auditor General's report 2001 http://bcauditor.com/PUBS/2001-02/Report1/sec1.htm ] ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO fizzles
Kurt Wall wrote: Quoth Tom Marinis: Aww Kurt, you and Lonnie just had to open your mouths... I can't speak for Llama, but I've been restrained. Ah, I understand now. Your married :) http://newsforge.com/newsforge/03/08/22/1746248.shtml?tid=19 Another ESR screed. So, I guess when ESR goes to court, the sxs.org group led by Mr. A. Mathews will force you both to shave his legs for his court appearance when he testifies Assuming They haven't gottem me with their orbital mind control lasers. Gee, I didn't realize just how innovative and modest this group really was. :) ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO fizzles
Andrew Mathews wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Marinis wrote: [...] | | Aww Kurt, you and Lonnie just had to open your mouths... | | | http://newsforge.com/newsforge/03/08/22/1746248.shtml?tid=19 | | | Well, now you both done it ! | | So, I guess when ESR goes to court, the sxs.org group | led by Mr. A. Mathews will force you both | to shave his legs for his court appearance when he testifies Eeew. I think his hairy legs are safe for the moment. I don't want to even think about it. It was Lonnie who mentioned the skirt... | [ I can't do it, I still wanna live. The mere visualization | of that event makes me wanna hurl... ] | Now that you mention it, have you noticed the similarities between Llama and Linus Torvalds? Llama: http://www.linux-works.org/sxs/bio/lonni_friedman_bio.html Linus: http://www.zejack.com/perso/linus/linus_en.php3 Scary isn't it? ROTFL !!! Very scary... Damn, I forgot how cruel you could get, I shouldn't have said anything... :) - -- Andrew Mathews ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HELP - Dialogue windows bug in Slackware 9
Greets Bruno Bruno Vieira wrote: Hi everyone. I am having problems on Slackware 9. The problem is : the dialogue windows close themseself in the second time i call them. Example: When I click on setup button of the KPPP the dialogue window appear correctly. But if i close that and try clicking again on KPPP setup button the dialogue box appears and close itself in less than 1 second. It also happens with other applications that use dialogue windows. Someone Knows how to solve that ? Thanks a lot. Bruno Vieira Uhm, I have a question: Are you trying this from fresh installation of Slackware 9.0, with no patches yet? ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO is suing SCO
On Sunday 17 August 2003 09:23, bof carved in granite: For background to this article, first read http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/61/32233.html. In a surprise press conference today, SCO's Darryl McBride announced that SCO is suing SCO . Major Snip The conference ended when he fired himself, rehired himself, and then fired himself again. Further investigative reporting shows that Mr. McBride is resting comfortably in a hospital bed after treatment for lacerations, contusions and fractures. Witnesses report that after the press conference he took himself out into the alley and beat the *#^% out of himself. Doctors refuse to speculate whether the coma he appears to be in was caused by blunt force trauma or blunt logic. In Harmony's Way and In A Chord, Tom ;-}) Tom. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 A Jester Unemployed ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: northeast power outage
Jack Berger wrote: Well, could be, but... Ted Kopel interviewed FORMER fed cyber security czar Richard Clark. What a self serving piece of work this guy is, insinuating that this is the work of terrorist hackers, since the electrical system was designed to contain this type of outage to a small area. (Yeah under the load conditions of 20-30 years ago!) Sensationalism at its best. The truth is that everyone wants/loves/needs electricity, but no one wants to pay for it in terms of building the necessary infrastructure to support it (NIMBY). Large portions of the existing electrical grid are operating at or near the operating limits and stability margins they were designed for. The dynamics of the inter-connected power grids is very complex. In some areas it doesn't take much to cause an outage or disturbance, which depending on the magnitude, and where it occurs, can cascade to neighboring locations. Most of the grid can handle a voltage sag. The problem is when some segments of the grid trip off-line they cause phase shifts on the system, which are harder to deal with. Maybe this is the wake up call that we need to upgrade the existing system to (at least) current demand. -jhb- [ Greets list, I apologize for the length ] I don't agree with you. However, the case for modernization for something is made everyday in government circles. Government has always been slow to change. Only real political will has ever moved government along. I'm pretty sure that the governments from both countries will adopt a new policy for power interconnection to be agreed upon, but those developments will never address the current issue I believe is occuring out there. Bill Campbell's reply to your thread is actually closer to the truth than you may think. The problem, I believe, could be that the existing system between Ontario and the US simply ran out of power, and the failure was due to the power drain because of the excessively hot weather. ( that, and around 4 million stoves turning on to cook dinner, because it was 4:00pm after all ) You people not from Canada may not be aware of what happened in Ontario, May to Sept 19th 2002 last year, so I will try to give as many facts, with as little space as possible; Following de-regulation of the PUBLIC works known as HYDRO 1 to private contractors last MAY 2002, 8 power plants faculities including 2 nuclear plants that were promised to be maintained after sale were closed and dismantled within 1 month after the sale. The given reason: after another re-assessment these private contractors conducted 2 weeks after the deal, these contractors concluded that these keeping these plants online was excessively expensive non-money makers, and at a spare capacity that the provincial population could not possibly use or pay for. What these private companies did: Prices for residential electrical then rose 300% by JULY 2002, and the in certain locations of ONTARIO people's homes were being isolated and the power turned off if the customer was unable to make payment. The elderly on fixed incomes, and the very young on low wages, were the people having trouble paying new rate hikes, and their power was shut off. 300% in under 4 months was too much for anyone to take. A cry for independant audit was demanded by about 100 lawyers and 5 judges. The Public outcry in AUG came to a head, and by SEPT 12th, when the AUDITOR GENERAL reviewed the situation, and tabled the results publicly. Premier Ernie Els then stepped in, reduced the rates to pre-MAY prices, refunded all customers the over charges. [ Premier is equivalent to a US STATE Governor ] ELS then locked in all those reduced power rates for 4 years at the pre-MAY 2002 levels, pleasing the public, despite the complaints of the new independant private power contractors. ONTARIO has been since then for the last year saving money trying to re-purchase the parts to try and reactivate the 6 gas burners and re-condition the 2 nuclear plants, but it will not happen before the next provincial election. [ 2004 late ] So, I wouldn't be surprised if the result of the combined US-Canadian investigation turns up that there wasn't enough power to supply the Canadian-US Eastern Seaboard. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Edwards Air Force Base computers shut down due to worm
burns wrote: On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 15:25, Bill Campbell wrote: A more obvious question is why they're running mission-critical applications on Windows in the first place! They may not be. The people that write these articles sometimes do not have the full story and occasionally are clueless, themselves. Traditionally, DoD would employ Unix systems such as Solaris on command Control and other mission-critical systems, while Windows would be an option for general desktop systems. What they may be referring to is the shutdown of their general use (MIS) WAN, rather than Operational Information Systems. I wouldn't know either way. It's laughable, in either case. All I can tell you is that the 5 companies that I visited yesterday afternoon, running W2K and WinXP, had their sys admins finishing backups early. These people were also physically disconnecting the firewalls from the external routers, DSU/CSU, T1, ISDN circuits in anticipation for Saturday's ping fest at MS. You should have seen some of the looks I got when I told them the same thing just before leaving, Don't you wish you were running Linux right about now? Hell, I even had an expensive pen thrown at me for my trouble. ]:-} ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: sco's lastest blathering
burns wrote:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11031
I know what we should say.
[ snipped, length but kept hint of message :) ]
What is required is for the government to launch an immediate
investigation to see if Microsoft is indeed behind this. If they find
that it is, not only does it raise the most serious instances yet of
antitrust and tampering, it also could/should result in criminal charges
against top MS executives if sufficient evidence was found.
Unfortunately, the current US administration has already demonstrated
that they are not willing to do anything to keep MS in line - and on the
basis of what certainly seems to be a well-orchestrated campaign, it
appears that Bill knows it too.
That's everybodies wish, burns.
But If somebody did file today, it would only be
2011 when the case was finally heard and decided.
{ I'm guessing longer, considering the size of
American Courts don't increase that much }
I know how you feel, but the futility of it would make
me feel used. I'm quite sure if MS lost this case,
they would APPEAL until a sitting US government that
did support their position was elected.
I'm sorry, but I would want IBM to hammer MS
instead, because IBM has the deeper pockets.
It would be worth to see MS get trashed and hammered, even
if it was payback for the flushing they recieved for the
destruction of OS/2.
Linux developers have a hard time as it is just trying
to stay above water, let alone fight MS on MS turf.
What I would love to see instead, is some of the OS/2
code enter the LINUX Kernel.
God, MS and possibly Bill Gates, would put in their
place then :)
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Re: Linux running IIs?
Kurt Wall wrote: The site www.microsoft.com is running Microsoft-IIS/6.0 on Linux Because Akamai runs Linux and the Microsoft site(s) run Windows Server 2003? Kurt Is that why the movies run so smoothly, even on a P-II ? ]:-) ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: sco's lastest blathering
Kurt Wall wrote: Quoth Tom Marinis: I'm in agreement with you, but this is the test argument that many Linux supporters have feared would occur. This is the really last mountain to climb really, for Linux world wide acceptance. I'm happy to see the GPL tested. I also believe it will stand up. SCO's legal theory is just plain nonsense. If I own the copyright to something, I can do anything I want with it. IANAL, but SCO's argument falls over because the notion that I can only make 1 copy of a piece of software is impenetrably stupid - it simply doesn't apply because, as copyright holder, _I_ am the one who can dispense (or not) authorization to make copies of my copyrighted work. GPL is finally going to challenged in a FEDERAL court, and if it is deemed in any way vague, mis-leading, faulty, or maybe even politically incorrect, SCO's case is made. IBM will have to pay, and all the software at the FSF must be under copyright. It already _is_ copyrighted - GNU project software has copyright assigned to the FSF. You have to file paperwork with the FSF in order to make any substantive contributions to official GNU projects. That costs money, and guess who's got a lot of money in the bank to spend to entice a lot of programmers out there who haven't made almost any money for their software? This is true, as far as it goes, but an awful lot of people write code because they want to, not because they get paid to do it. Kurt's Right; He should have greeted the corporate heads from SCO at the front door at Caldera a few years back with his shotgun. Put some sense into them... No, what I said was that I'd be happy to pay the license fee if Darl McBride showed up at my door to request it and survived the blast from my street howitzer. That's quite a different statement from a threat to show up SCO's front door and start shooting - which is _not_ what I would do, BTW. Kurt I'm sorry Kurt, I took liberties :) I stand corrected. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Best LAN browser for Linux?
On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 12:45, Michael Hipp wrote: What is the best browser for SMB shares under Linux? Unfortunately, I'm looking for something comparable to 'Network Neighborhood' or 'My Network Places'. Haven't been particularly happy with using Konq or Nautilus for such (they're a look but don't touch browser)? Any recommendations appreciated, Michael I've used Gnomba, Xsmbrowser and Linneighborhood. Linneighborhood and Xsmbrowser are both good. I like linneighborhood a bit better though. Either should work well. --Tom Wilson ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT google fun
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 23:45, Burns MacDonald wrote: Sounds like something straight out of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, or should be. Which I might add, I am reading yet again. --Tom Wilson ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO's first licensee
Matthew Carpenter wrote: SCO Gets First Licensee For Unix Intellectual Property Software License The unnamed Fortune 500 company is apparently the first to sign up for a SCO Unix intellectual property software license under a program started just last week. http://computerworld.com/newsletter/0,4902,83906,00.html?nlid=OS Who wants to bet that it's Microsoft or Sun? Who cares? It will probably be their last... ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
sco's lastest blathering
LMFAO. Found the link on /. I don't even know what to say about this one because it is so far fetched. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11031 --Tom Wilson ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: sco's lastest blathering
Tom Wilson wrote: LMFAO. Found the link on /. I don't even know what to say about this one because it is so far fetched. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11031 --Tom Wilson What do you mean, far fetched? Eric Raymond always stated that a direct attack against the GPL was inevitable. When that legal attack occurred, it would test the GPL in the courts, and make a final determination for LINUX. This article now confirms that this day has finally arrived. IF SCO wins, LINUX will go the way of BEOS, MSDOS, and mainframe; into the halls of non-existance. else IF SCO loses, then LINUX will dominate and eliminate the MICROSOFT OS the desktop in 15 years, and reduce Microsoft to the size of SUN. Damn, Microsoft started this, and just think, Linux will finish it :) === Beside, nothing more will happen today, since the NORTHEAST power outage occured around 2:00pm PST, 5:00pm EST. Province of Ontario, State of New York, Columbia, Maine, Detroit, Buffalo, all without power... No lights, no computer, No traffic lamps, no airports, no trains, no restaurants, and more importantly, NO Air Conditioning :) [ Probably a power generator being controlled by POWER MANAGER, and that computer suffered a MS windows BSOD fault ] I hope KURT survives it :) ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: sco's lastest blathering
On Thursday 14 August 2003 05:34 pm, Tom Marinis's voice rose above the ones in my head and stated: Tom Wilson wrote: LMFAO. Found the link on /. I don't even know what to say about this one because it is so far fetched. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11031 --Tom Wilson What do you mean, far fetched? Not saying the legal test is far fetched, just this arguement. Copyright law invalidates a form of copyright (or copyleft if you prefer). -- Tom Wilson Reg. Linux user# 199331 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: sco's lastest blathering
Tom Wilson wrote: On Thursday 14 August 2003 05:34 pm, Tom Marinis's voice rose above the ones in my head and stated: Tom Wilson wrote: LMFAO. Found the link on /. I don't even know what to say about this one because it is so far fetched. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11031 --Tom Wilson What do you mean, far fetched? Not saying the legal test is far fetched, just this arguement. Copyright law invalidates a form of copyright (or copyleft if you prefer). I'm in agreement with you, but this is the test argument that many Linux supporters have feared would occur. This is the really last mountain to climb really, for Linux world wide acceptance. GPL is finally going to challenged in a FEDERAL court, and if it is deemed in any way vague, mis-leading, faulty, or maybe even politically incorrect, SCO's case is made. IBM will have to pay, and all the software at the FSF must be under copyright. That costs money, and guess who's got a lot of money in the bank to spend to entice a lot of programmers out there who haven't made almost any money for their software? In this battle, its not code, but whoever has the deeper pockets will win; MS, or IBM. If the GPL wins, SCO not only loses, but MS loses in a really really big way. Unix will probably die within 5 years, with LINUX replacing it where ever possible. Sun would be one of the biggest casulties to the UNIX OS, and the LINUX OS. Linux when compared to MS products, MS almost always looses; think of the code that people are writing now for any platform, and think about those writing for XP. I would hate to port to Windows for Whistler, but I could port a C program to almost any Linux or BSD/UNIX platform outthere, eventually. It's happening now. The only difference is that MS programmers are getting paid, and make money doing so :) If Microsoft does lose, it will still be around, but probably in the Game console business, like Sony or Dreamcast or even Intellivision, and you know what happened to them. Kurt's Right; He should have greeted the corporate heads from SCO at the front door at Caldera a few years back with his shotgun. Put some sense into them... ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Unknown host error message when trying to ping Internet
On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 12:18, bof wrote: I am trying to set up a Suse 8.2 desktop box, (Bob, address 192.168.1.33) but am having trouble connecting to the Internet. I am not running a firewall on it. I can ping an Internet address by IP address without problem. When I try to ping by hostname I receive the error message unknown host. I can ping other machines local to my network by both IP address and hostname without problem. One of the other machines in the network (Sam, address 192.168.1.2, RH 7.3) has no problems when pinging the Internet, either by IP address or hostname, and it can ping the Suse box without problem. My Internet access is through a NAT gateway/firewall box with address 192.168.1.1 (Bill) on the internal net card, and whatever address assigned to tthe external card by my ISP using DHCP. From the firewall box, I can ping the Suse box, the RH box, and the Internet using both IP address and hostname, all without problems, The configuration files for the Suse box are set up as follows: /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost 192.168.1.1 bill.mynet.net bill 192.168.1.2 sam.mynet.net sam 192.168.1.33bob.mynet.net bob # special IPv6 addresses ::1 localhost ipv6-localhost ipv6-loopback fe00::0 ipv6-localnet ff00::0 ipv6-mcastprefix ff02::1 ipv6-allnodes ff02::2 ipv6-allrouters /etc/host.conf order hosts, bind multi on /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 216.229.33.250 nameserver 216.229.33.251 search local local /etc/nsswitch.conf passwd: compat group: compat hosts: files dns networks: files dns services: files protocols: files rpc:files ethers: files netmasks: files netgroup: files publickey: files bootparams: files automount: files nis aliases:files The output of netstat -nr Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt face 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 Can anyone help me figure out what is going on? Sounds like the Internet DNS is not resolving on Bob. Can you ping the nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf from Bob? --Tom Wilson ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Unknown host error message when trying to ping Internet
On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 14:50, bof wrote: pcisys.net uses 216.229.32.173 as their mail server. Their DNS server is 216.229.33.250. If I try to dig or nslookup pcisys.net I get a connection timed out. no servers could be reached message. Here are the results of my dig. Looks like your name servers are ns1.pcisys.net. 216.229.32.170 and ns2.pcisys.net. 216.229.32.166 [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]$ dig pcisys.net ; DiG 9.2.1 pcisys.net ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 22031 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 3 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;pcisys.net.IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: pcisys.net. 86400 IN A 216.229.32.173 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: pcisys.net. 86400 IN NS jerry.pcisys.net. pcisys.net. 86400 IN NS ns1.pcisys.net. pcisys.net. 86400 IN NS ns2.pcisys.net. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ns1.pcisys.net. 84756 IN A 216.229.32.170 ns2.pcisys.net. 84756 IN A 216.229.32.166 jerry.pcisys.net. 86400 IN A 207.76.102.251 ;; Query time: 84 msec ;; SERVER: 192.168.0.3#53(192.168.0.3) ;; WHEN: Fri Aug 1 14:58:19 2003 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 148 --TOm Wilson ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: GNU/Linux Might Be Free of SCO Threats
--- Andrew Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 SCO Agrees IBM Owns AIX, JFS, NUMA, RCU Copyrights http://mozillaquest.com/Linux03/ScoSource-24-Copyrights_Story01.html Andrew Mathews Too bad really for IBM; If SCO was a Canadian company and had originally filed their lawsuit in Canada, as many Canadians know, the loser said lawsuit pays all court costs... __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Australia Sends SCO on Walkabout
On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 19:59, Leon A. Goldstein wrote: [snip] Here in the Sovereign State of North Carolingia the Booze Bureaucrats decide what can be sold to us groundlings. This is fittingly analogous to the method by which M$ and SCO contrive with the politicians and judiciary to limit our OS choices. (Note the crafty way I keep this post from going TID.) Actually, I could sure go for a Belgian Rodenbach right now, but the North Carolina Booze Bureaucrats have ruled that I may not buy this delectable brew here. SCOL! -- Leon A. Goldstein So is that why beer is so expensive there? They have a Booze Bureaucracy? I was in Kill Devil Hills in late June and paid $20 US for a case of Miller Lite. I felt I was stroked. Now here in Ohio, we drive to Kentucky and get Miller Lite for $12 a case. And Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout is only $3.99 a pint. M... I was going to stop by Red Hat headquarters on my way home from OBX but I didn't know where it was in relation. (My attempt to not drift TID). --Tom Wilson ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Australia Sends SCO on Walkabout
On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 12:37, Bill Campbell wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 08:48:48AM -0400, Tom Wilson wrote: ... So is that why beer is so expensive there? They have a Booze Bureaucracy? I was in Kill Devil Hills in late June and paid $20 US for a case of Miller Lite. I felt I was stroked. Now here in Ohio, we drive to Kentucky and get Miller Lite for $12 a case. And Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout is only $3.99 a pint. M... I don't think you could sell Miller Lite, Bud Lite, Coors, etc. for any price in Oz, New Zealand, or other places where real beer, ale, and stout is available. The only thing people here in the Pacific NW would use Miller Lite for is slug bait. Agreed. I prefer fine English Ales myself. But I was on vacation with the family so I had to please the, err, unenlightened beer drinkers. --Tom ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: gentoo stage 2 question
On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 17:09, Collins Richey wrote: On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:26:46 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No outdated packages were found on your system. * Regenerating GNU info directory index... * Processed 49 info files: 1 errors; run with emerge --verbose to view errors. * IMPORTANT: 1 config files in /etc need updating. * Type emerge --help config to learn how to update config files. I see no errors in /var/log/emerge.log Every time I see this error, it is totally benign, and it goes away after some later emerges. You could search on gentoo forums or the gentoo-user list archive, if you want to know more. You do need to run etc-update to enable the 1 config file or modify your existing config file. Gentoo does not directly update config files in /etc and some other directories, which is a pretty good idea, because occasionally they offer to update fstab, etc., which would not be pretty. You should be ready to roll with X, etc., etc. The info file error is insignificant, been getting the same here at times. Be careful of the automated update of etc-update, I totally horked one of my systems with it. Now I run a backup copy of /etc *before* ( if) I run it. Once bitten, twice shy. Usually I manually update the files so I know exactly what is being changed. Don't know what backfired, hope it was a once in a lifetime experience. Best of luck to you your new Gentoo system, Lonni! -- Tom Jandl Powered by GENTOO 1.4-RC4 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: samba error messages???
On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 09:49, Gerry Doris wrote: I'm seeing the following error message about every 30 min in /var/log/samba/log/smbd. This is on a RH 9 system that was recently upgraded from 7.3. I'm not sure if they were appearing before or not? Any idea what this is trying to tell me??? [2003/07/26 09:31:27, 0] smbd/oplock_linux.c:linux_init_kernel_oplocks(287) Found this at: http://info.ccone.at/INFO/Mail-Archives/redhat/May-2003/msg03178.html I am just guessing here, but it looks like you are trying to use kernel oplocks. Maybe your kernel doesn't support them. I am not sure if this behavior is controlled in the compilation of smbd or in smb.conf. According to man smb.conf, kernel oplocks are on by default but if the kernel doesn't support them, it won't cause an error. Why not try: kernel oplocks = no in smb.conf. HTH --Tom Wilson ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: NFS responding on wrong interface
Greets Bill, --- Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having a wierd problem at one of our customer's sites. The system has multiple IP addresses bound to one NIC, eth0 and eth0:[0-3]. NFS clients can't mount NFS directories because the UDP replies are coming from addresses other than eth0. I've looked at the source for mountd.c, and there's no option to bind to a specific interface (the man pages don't have one so I went to the source to make sure that there's not an undocumented option). The system in question is running Caldera eDesktop 2.4, but I've looked at the source on SuSE 8.2 Professional and the code is largely the same. It seems to me that the return packet should show as coming from the primary interface on that network. The only thing I see that looks a little strange is that ``netstat -rn'' shows two routes to the internal network, both on eth0: # netstat -rn Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 192.168.254.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 192.168.254.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 192.168.254.8 0.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 eth0 Any ideas? Bill I know I'm really late with this reply, but if you are still trouble shooting, I do have a few ideas, but you'll probably laugh at me for mentioning them, since I am still a newbie. I noticed you've got your multiple ip's in the 192.168.254.X range for eth0. Can I ask if maybe the other clients moved very recently to differnet network subnets? The only other things I can think of that you probably already checked ; the /etc/export file had been modified with wrong ip address or computer names to the proper shared directories, and of course, white space; the mount volumes had been unmounted for fsck maintainence, with the clients still on the mount; maybe someone modified the /etc/hosts.allow file, on either the server or the client, without remembering to tell anyone, for reasons of security. A DENY ALL statement maybe somewhere? I'm sorry Bill, but that's all I can really think of. That's all this newbie can think of... __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mandrake or Slackware
Thanks for all the inputs. Slackware ordered. In Harmony's Way and In A Chord, Tom ;-}) Tom. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 A Jester Unemployed ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: gentoo stage 2 question
On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 10:32, Net Llama! wrote: I finally bit the bullet, and decided to give Gentoo a whirl. I opted to build everything from scratch. Stage1 went fine, however Stage2 completed 1 with one error, however I can't figure out what that error is. As a result, I don't know if its safe to continue. I'm also puzzled how something that is completely built from the software that Gentoo provides can have any build errors? Try emerge rsync to include the latest changes to the packages list. I have seen bad packages slip through that are updated within day or two. Then emerge portage to insure you are using the latest and greatest version. Next emerge -p system which will check for missing/outdated packages in the basic system and print a list of any that are missing or need to be updated. If any packages are listed in the above step, run emerge system to finish stage 2. Once finished with this you are ready to emerge whatever software you wish to add to the basic system. Without any error messages to go by, this is my best shot at getting stage 2 finished for you. -- Tom Jandl Powered by GENTOO 1.4-RC4 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: 2.6.0 kernel compile doc
On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 21:32, Kurt Wall wrote: Another helpful doc, although a little bit dated, is http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/post-halloween-2.5.txt. However, just now, I'm gettin Connection Refused errors. Anyone else? Kurt Same story here in South Dakota. -- Tom Jandl Powered by GENTOO 1.4-RC4 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: gentoo stage 2 question
On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 22:12, Net Llama! wrote: Hrmmm. THat's not what the documentation on gentoo's website suggests. My reading of their dox indicate that stage 1 compiles the basic tools of the OS (glibc, binutils, gcc, and a few others) from source, and stage 2 then compiles just about everything else. Am i missing something obvious here? In the previous versions of Gentoo the stage 2 and stage 3 were two different levels of pre compiled systems for those that would rather not go through the pain of compiling a system from scratch. They discontinued the stage 2 and stage 3 tarballs with rc4 if I remember correctly. As long as emerge system is completed you have your base system ready to rock. Welcome to the Gentoo fold! (If the above message is mangled, Evolution did it ;) ) -- Tom Jandl Powered by GENTOO 1.4-RC4 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: gentoo stage 2 question
On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 23:24, Myles Green wrote: But... I have an ISO image here of 1.4rc4 with stage 1, 2 3 tarballs contained within. If you start with a stage 1 tarball you must still build the system (stage one is just the packages needed to bootstrap the system) by going through stage 2 and stage three (as in once you are done you are at the same state you'd be in if you'd chosen a stage 2 [or stage 3] tarball). What error(s) did you get Llama? Myles, you are right. I reread the docs and discovered that the tarballs optimized for different processors is what was discontinued. As of rc4 the tarballs are only for i386, and you have to build from stage 1 to optimize for any other cpu. My mistake -- Tom Jandl Powered by GENTOO 1.4-RC4 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Slightly OTHappy Sys Admin Appreciation Day
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 11:33, Tony Alfrey wrote: On Friday 25 July 2003 08:11 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 June 25 (today) is the annual Sys Admin Appreciation Day. I'd just like to take a moment to tip my hat to my fellow admins on this list. I'll be throwing down a cold beverage in your honor later tonite! Considering that this is July (not June), perhaps you've already thrown down a few cold beverages too many?? But we appreciate you anyway. I believe that is a typo on Doug's part. Sys Admin Day is the day after my birthday which was yesterday. Two celebrations in a row! --Tom Wilson ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
sorta otMemtest86
Hi all, First time I've used memtest86 and I am running it on a couple machines here at work. I was wondering does it stop itself or will it just keep going through the tests again and again and again. It's been running for 42 hrs on one machine and I wasn't sure if I need to stop it or not. Thanks. --Tom Wilson ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 10:35, Net Llama! wrote: On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Tom Wilson wrote: Hi all, First time I've used memtest86 and I am running it on a couple machines here at work. I was wondering does it stop itself or will it just keep going through the tests again and again and again. It's been running for 42 hrs on one machine and I wasn't sure if I need to stop it or not. It runs indefinitely. 1 or 2 passes are usually sufficient for catching 99% of problems. Many thanks Net Llama. --Tom ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: network to xp to xp
Greets Keith;
--- Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 07:26 PM 19/07/2003 -0700, you wrote:
As Lonni pointed out, you need to set up your
DNS ip's in XP. If you don't, your XP boxes will
never traverse outside your internal home network, and
out onto the internet.
I think if your user setting has the rights, you can
adjust the settings for the NIC via...
Start == My Network Places == Nic Device
Advanced Settings = DNS settings.
Well after My Network places there is no Nic Device etc.
I can set up DNS if I had IP's to place in there but I do not
have any.
I am on cable and do not have any primary IP's.
Skippy
My bad Keith.
I should have thought about it for a moment.
Hmmm
To find your NIC settings in XP should be something like
Start == My Network Places == Local Area Connection ==
{ I don't know if you can right click that one or not}
Internet Protocol TCP/IP Properties==
In the General Dialogue box, you should have at the top
something that says 'Connect using ' and your NIC
descriptor.
If you place your mouse over the
NIC icon, your properties of the nic and if it
is active will appear after 5 seconds.
If you left click while doing so, your turn off your
NIC. If you left click again, you'll turn it back
on. Click once now, and turn it off.
Further down, in the General dialogue box, will be the
TCP/IP properties box. Left click on that line, and
another General menu will pop up.
I would, if I were you, select the 'USE the following IP'
and fill out the IP and Subnet info that you had before
here.
Then move further downward, and select the 'Use the
following DNS server addresses', and fill in the Primary
and Secondary DNS server ip addresses for this computer.
You may have to move on to the ADVANCED SECTION to fill
in the settings.
Click okay once, make sure that your at the General box
for 'Local Area Connection Properties', and move the mouse
pointer over the NIC icon again, and click on the icon.
The new network settings should take effect right about
then.
I'd open the browser and try to surf a webpage to see if
the settings took.
HTH Keith,
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Re: network to xp to xp
Greets Keith,
--- Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am having to do some many hours of recoding vhs tapes to HD.
Because it is
far easier to use something like Power Director I am in XP for
long times.
The trouble is that daughter wants to get online, no real
suprise, and I
cannot shutdown and go to linux at the drop of a hat. I had it
working on XP
to XP but now the downstairs machine does not see out to the
net.
Settings: downstairs:-
192.168.1.2
255.2545.255.0
GW 192.168.1.1
Cannot ping upstairs machine
Main Machine: LINUX
eth0: 192.168.1.1
255.255.255.0
Can ping the downstaris machine
eth1:
210.49.48.75
BC: 210.49.48.255
255.255.255.0
As for the settings on this machine with XP will send that in
a few minutes
As Lonni pointed out, you need to set up your
DNS ip's in XP. If you don't, your XP boxes will
never traverse outside your internal home network, and
out onto the internet.
I think if your user setting has the rights, you can
adjust the settings for the NIC via...
Start == My Network Places == Nic Device
Advanced Settings = DNS settings.
{ something like that... doing it from memory, don't
run any MS anymore here... }
I'd review your /etc/resolv.conf file, and glean the
IP's for XP box for what to fill in. Looks like
you'll need a pencil and paper, since the computers
are on different floors.
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Re: DHS and M$
--- Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 06:57:17AM -0500, David A. Bandel
wrote:
did I miss anything?
Yes, you did. The IS professionals they are going to hire
don't know squat
about anything but windows. Thus, they will need to buy MS
boxes with everything
pretty much set up for them.
Actually, in David's own subtle way, he said just that...
Besides, Homeland Security is about making America safer,
which means
protecting the American economy, which means MS$ Uber Alles.
Which was my original point at [EMAIL PROTECTED],
condensed considerably...
And, if Homeland Security went with linux, every hacker in the
Middle
East would be trying to hack into their computers, and they
would have
the source code to help them. With windows, I suspect that
only a handful
of trusted friends (Russia, Israel, France, China, and a few
others),
have the windows source code. And, they likely don't want to
advertise
it and therefore won't bother hacking around with Homeland
Security,
which isn't directed against them, anyway.
Uhm, sorry Joel.
Bullshit.
I may see a new trend that MS might demand H.S. to go with,
but I don't see this kind of thing being able to happen
at all with Open Source.
Since when has Unix gotten over 75,000+ viruses
to protect itself from, have remote system back doors and
other garbage letting in all the goofs on the internet?
Even though Unix is around 15 years older, MS Windows and
Dos are afflicted by at least 3 new viruses every day.
{ Symantec gave that estimate on their newest Anti-Virus
Software products last year. I hear it now may be going
higher. }
From what I've heard, seen, read, Linux and most of the
other Unix-like systems out there, although suseptable to
worms, I'm unaware of the more than 3 to 5 viruses that
the community is aware of currently for the Linux/UNIX OS.
If someone does write a virus for Linux, don't you think
someone, somewhere, would eventually find out who wrote it, and
find out something is wrong with that file or program?
Don't you think, when he's found out, that this guy's email,
website, ftp-site would be written up and in the future flagged
for all others to know?
Unless this guy is a real dumbass, and accidentally
incorporated this so-called virus into a program that he was
developing, that he's gonna get black-listed by the community?
Oh, it's been tried, but the virus or a corrupted file
doesn't get or spread very far. Case in point;
OpenBSD's ftpsite in Alberta got broken into last year, and
someone fooled around with the latest OpenSSH package at the
time.
A simple check of the MD5 checksum proved the file at the
site did not match the file that was already checked.
Theo went quickly through the source, and the source from
the FTP site was proved that it was a hacked version. Let's
just say for the next 4 hours the 15 messages from Theo to the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] were, shall we say, quite blue
Round trip time, 6 hour after a person posted was the
the program later replaced.
3 people that I know of that were on the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailing list ( which I'm also a member of ) admitted that
they had downloaded the offending program, and installed it.
All 3 people performed re-installs.
Theo never found out from where, but he give the
University of Calgary's System Admin a tongue lashing
for letting a student change something group permissions
at the ftp site.
Just try to get something like that turn around time from MS
on a defective piece of software.
So, I'm sorry Joel, that's a MS story about the
source code for the kernel being abused by those
people from the middle east.
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Re: small network problem
--- Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 19 July 2003 07:51 am, Matthew Carpenter wrote: Is DNS working on the Linux box? (if that's where you are running it from) No AFAIK, its just setup by mandarke to share the net. Whoa, wait a minute...what about your /etc/hosts.allow fileis your subnet permitted to connect? __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Latest From SCO
--- Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/07/18/HNscolicense_1.html Gee, too bad I use Slackware now :) Besides, the only thing that SCO's lawyer could say Monday that could frighten me is to say that Linus Torvalds now works for SCO. E. __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Home Network Connections
David, Thank you again! I found more about the router: Channel = 6 WEP encryption disabled The laptop: In the Network Configuration tool the DNS tab contains this info: Hostname = wireless Primary DNS 192.168.2.1 Secondary DNS = [blank] Tertiary DNS = [blank] In the KDE Control Center, Network LAN Browsing settings: LISa daemon Scan these addresses 192.168.2.2/255.255.255.0 Trusted addresses 192.168.2.2/255.255.255.0 Broadcast network addresses 192.168.2.2/255.255.255.0 ResLISa daemon Trusted addresses 192.168.2.2/255.255.255.0 I truly appreciate your help, David. David A. Bandel wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 23:06:26 -0700 Tom Lombardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David, Thank you so much for your time! The firewall feature on XP was already disabled. Here are the settings: DESKTOP IP Address 192.168.2.2 Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway 192.168.2.1 DHCP Server 192.168.2.1 DNS Server 192.168.2.1 Router IP Address 192.168.2.1 Subnet Mask - I couldn't find this listed anywhere Thinking I understood where you are going with this, I tried re-setting everything on the laptop to match these numbers, but it still didn't work (although I don't know what I'm doing so I may have missed something). I also tried leaving everything on auto so it would detect settings on its own, but that didn't work either. I really appreciate your help! no prob. But you didn't give me your laptop setup. I need this too. I assume your router has another address for the wireless card too? You gave me the values for your router's ethernet card only. [snip] Ciao, David A. Bandel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Home Network Connections
David, Thank you so much for your time! The firewall feature on XP was already disabled. Here are the settings: DESKTOP IP Address 192.168.2.2 Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway 192.168.2.1 DHCP Server 192.168.2.1 DNS Server 192.168.2.1 Router IP Address 192.168.2.1 Subnet Mask - I couldn't find this listed anywhere Thinking I understood where you are going with this, I tried re-setting everything on the laptop to match these numbers, but it still didn't work (although I don't know what I'm doing so I may have missed something). I also tried leaving everything on auto so it would detect settings on its own, but that didn't work either. I really appreciate your help! David A. Bandel wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:35:51 -0700 Tom Lombardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to get my laptop, running RedHat Linux 8, to connect to my desktop, running Windows XP, both of which are attached to my Dell router. The desktop is attached with a cable, and the laptop is connected with a wireless card. Please tell us the IP/netmask of each interface (router and systems) I can ping the router from my laptop just fine, and I can connect to the Internet as well (thanks to Fourmun, who replied to an earlier post to this excellent newsgroup). Note: XP has a firewall feature you may need to disable. Sometimes XP outsmarts itself. But I can't get the laptop to connect to the desktop so I can back up files and use the printer. I am using KDE and Konqueror, and I've gone through the LISa set-up. The network's name is earthfirst and the router's name is my.router and the desktop's name is DESKTOP. When I type in lan://earthfirst or lan://my.router or lan://DESKTOP in Konqueror or in the terminal window command line, the laptop can't connect. I mention all of this becuase I think it is relevant. Let's get TCP working first. NetBEUI is braindead and needs help, but won't work at all if the TCP/IP stack/routing is hosed. Also, the route command does not work in my Linux terminal window, so I can't check to see what the laptop sees. When I type route man in the terminal I get the manual page for route, but when I try to run the route command I get a bash: route: command not found error. This has happened to me before, where a command will show up in the manual but it won't run when I try to use it. That seems weird to me. Try running it as root or using a full path /sbin/route -n If you have any suggestions as to how I can get my laptop to write files on the desktop and use the printer, I would be very grateful. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Ciao, David A. Bandel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Home Network Connections
David, Thank you so much for your time! The firewall feature on XP was already disabled. Here are the settings: DESKTOP IP Address 192.168.2.2 Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway 192.168.2.1 DHCP Server 192.168.2.1 DNS Server 192.168.2.1 Router IP Address 192.168.2.1 Subnet Mask - I couldn't find this listed anywhere Thinking I understood where you are going with this, I tried re-setting everything on the laptop to match these numbers, but it still didn't work (although I don't know what I'm doing so I may have missed something). I also tried leaving everything on auto so it would detect settings on its own, but that didn't work either. I really appreciate your help! David A. Bandel wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:35:51 -0700 Tom Lombardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to get my laptop, running RedHat Linux 8, to connect to my desktop, running Windows XP, both of which are attached to my Dell router. The desktop is attached with a cable, and the laptop is connected with a wireless card. Please tell us the IP/netmask of each interface (router and systems) I can ping the router from my laptop just fine, and I can connect to the Internet as well (thanks to Fourmun, who replied to an earlier post to this excellent newsgroup). Note: XP has a firewall feature you may need to disable. Sometimes XP outsmarts itself. But I can't get the laptop to connect to the desktop so I can back up files and use the printer. I am using KDE and Konqueror, and I've gone through the LISa set-up. The network's name is earthfirst and the router's name is my.router and the desktop's name is DESKTOP. When I type in lan://earthfirst or lan://my.router or lan://DESKTOP in Konqueror or in the terminal window command line, the laptop can't connect. I mention all of this becuase I think it is relevant. Let's get TCP working first. NetBEUI is braindead and needs help, but won't work at all if the TCP/IP stack/routing is hosed. Also, the route command does not work in my Linux terminal window, so I can't check to see what the laptop sees. When I type route man in the terminal I get the manual page for route, but when I try to run the route command I get a bash: route: command not found error. This has happened to me before, where a command will show up in the manual but it won't run when I try to use it. That seems weird to me. Try running it as root or using a full path /sbin/route -n If you have any suggestions as to how I can get my laptop to write files on the desktop and use the printer, I would be very grateful. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Ciao, David A. Bandel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
gcc not working
Hi all,
I'm trying to run ./configure to get the install process rolling on a
program and I get this error.
checking whether the C++ compiler (gcc ) works... no
configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler
cannot create executables.
When I check the config.log file in the source directory it has:
configure:1042: checking for gcc
configure:1074: checking whether the C++ compiler (gcc ) works
configure:1090: gcc -o conftestconftest.C 15
gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or
directory
configure: failed program was:
#line 1085 configure
#include confdefs.h
int main(){return(0);}
Anybody know what is going on with this shove me in the right direction
to solve it?
Thanks.
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Re: gcc not working
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Home Network Connections
I am trying to get my laptop, running RedHat Linux 8, to connect to my desktop, running Windows XP, both of which are attached to my Dell router. The desktop is attached with a cable, and the laptop is connected with a wireless card. I can ping the router from my laptop just fine, and I can connect to the Internet as well (thanks to Fourmun, who replied to an earlier post to this excellent newsgroup). But I can't get the laptop to connect to the desktop so I can back up files and use the printer. I am using KDE and Konqueror, and I've gone through the LISa set-up. The network's name is earthfirst and the router's name is my.router and the desktop's name is DESKTOP. When I type in lan://earthfirst or lan://my.router or lan://DESKTOP in Konqueror or in the terminal window command line, the laptop can't connect. I mention all of this becuase I think it is relevant. Also, the route command does not work in my Linux terminal window, so I can't check to see what the laptop sees. When I type route man in the terminal I get the manual page for route, but when I try to run the route command I get a bash: route: command not found error. This has happened to me before, where a command will show up in the manual but it won't run when I try to use it. That seems weird to me. If you have any suggestions as to how I can get my laptop to write files on the desktop and use the printer, I would be very grateful. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
/boot won't mount through fstab
Hi all, I installed Knoppix to hda things went well. I had the disk previously partitioned and after the install went to set them up how I wanted it. I got /home and /var to work fine w/ fstab. The one giving me headaches is the /boot partition. No matter what I've tried it won't mount at boot. If I mount it from the command line it works fine. The partition layout I set up is /dev/hda1/boot /dev/hda2swap /dev/hda3/ /dev/hda5/home /dev/hda6/var Here is my /etc/fstab file. # /etc/fstab: filesystem table. # # filesystem mountpoint type options dump pass /dev/hda3 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 1 1 /dev/hda1 /boot ext3 defaults,noauto 1 2 /dev/hda2 none swap sw 0 0 /dev/hda5 /home auto rw,auto,user,exec 1 2 /dev/hda6 /var auto defaults 1 2 proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/fd0 /floppy vfat defaults,user,noauto,showexec,umask=022 0 0 /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noexec,noauto 0 0 # partitions found by Knoppix #/dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 ext3 noauto,users,exec 0 0 #/dev/hda3 /mnt/hda3 ext3 noauto,users,exec 0 0 #/dev/hda5 /mnt/hda5 ext3 noauto,users,exec 0 0 #/dev/hda6 /mnt/hda6 ext3 noauto,users,exec 0 0 If anyone could give me a push in the right direction I would appreciate it. This has been killing me since I got back from vacation on Monday. And even before I left. e. Thanks. --Tom Wilson ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: /boot won't mount through fstab
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 15:51, Net Llama! wrote: On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Tom Wilson wrote: /dev/hda1 /boot ext3 defaults,noauto 1 2 noauto usually means, do not automatically mount at bootup. Looked right over that. Thanks, it worked. --Tom Wilson ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Command line questions
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Re: Blame [OT]
On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 13:54, Michael Scottaline wrote: On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 12:39:12 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled furiously: On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Bill Campbell wrote: Could we do editor wars again then (emacs sucks :-). No war there, emacs does suck. Pico is superior to all others. == `cept *Nedit* ;o) It's all about Joe. --Tom Wilson ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Command line questions
You're awesome, Mike - thank you very much! Michael Scottaline wrote: On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 01:22:02 -0700 Tom Lombardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: I'm starting to get a handle on using the command line, but the book I have fails to answer a few questions: 1. How can you open a program like OpenOffice from the command line? == Depending on the path you might have to type the full path to the executable command: ~/OpenOffice.org/ooffice (or something like that, depending on the version. === 2. using just the command line, how do you install a program from the .tar or .gz file you get from the download? tar zxvf downloaded.program.tar.gz now cd to the newly created directory ./configure make su [password for root] make install = 3. How do you uninstall a program? (I need to wipe my copy of RealPlayer clean and re-install it.) == depends on how it was installed. RPM From source?? = 4. When you get good at using the command line, do you get to the point where you don't even use the GUI (I have RedHat v8)? My window manager of choice (for now) is ratpoison. No menues, no icons. I have a few hotkey combinations in my .ratpoisonrc file to open some frequently used programs (e.g., sylpheed, pheonix, Textmaker, emacs, xmms, etc), then the rest from command line. == 5. If you launch applications and all the rest from the command line, does the machine run faster overall? = Depends on the machine, but if you can avoid the more bloated desktop environments like KDE or Gnome, yes your machine will likely run faster. HTH, Mike ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Blame [OT]
On Tuesday 01 July 2003 06:13 pm, Kurt Wall's voice rose above the ones in my head and stated: No war there, emacs does suck. Pico is superior to all others. == `cept *Nedit* ;o) It's all about Joe. I had several cups of Joe before I left for work this morning. :-P Kurt I was waiting for that one. :-) I wait till I get to work and drink the companies joe. It's not the gourmet stuff I keep around the house but it saves on coffee expenses so I can keep buying the gourmet stuff. Joe's Own Editor is still the best. :-o -- Tom Wilson Reg. Linux user# 199331 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Blame [OT]
Blame Author Unknown Let's see if I understand how the world works lately... If a man cuts his finger off while slicing salami at work, he blames the restaurant. If you smoke three packs a day for 40 years and die of lung cancer, your family blames the tobacco company. If your neighbor crashes into a tree while driving home drunk, he blames the bartender. If your grandchildren are brats without manners, you blame television. If your friend is shot by a deranged madman, you blame the gun manufacturer. And if a crazed person breaks into the cockpit and tries to kill the pilot at 35,000 feet, and the passengers kill him instead, the mother of the crazed deceased blames the airline. I must have lived too long to understand the world as it is anymore. So, if I die while my old, wrinkled butt is parked in front of this computer, I want you to blame Bill Gates...okay? Works for me! ;-}) In Harmony's Way and In A Chord, Tom ;-}) Tom. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 A Jester Unemployed ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: utterly OT -- the view here this morning
out the front door about half an hour ago. http://www.linuxandmain.com/artwork/allieandpal.jpg Peaceful co-existence? saltlick? Ubangis in the fuel supply? In Harmony's Way and In A Chord, Tom ;-}) Tom. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 A Jester Unemployed ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Even more on SCOdera vs IBM
--- Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoth tom marinis: The only lawsuit left I'm waiting for, is for SCO to go after the GPL, and make the source code license for Linux invalid, and in direct violation of the UNIX license. SCO can't go after the GPL. Well, I suppose they could, but I'll be darned if I can imagine how. Me too, but even the lawsuit against IBM was one many people could not imagine occuring now. I'm sure a MS paid lawyer could 'steer' the SCO staff into the right direction, given even money is involved. I'm pretty sure OpenSoftware and the Linux kernel project will die in about another 5 - 7 years after that, whether of or not SCO is successful. I doubt that. ...I only hope that I'm proven wrong. Kurt __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re:OT Even more on SCOdera vs IBM
--- David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 23:23:24 -0300 Federico Voges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,59266,00.html quote McBride added that SCO has no intention of killing off Linux with its current legal actions, but instead is trying to help Linux mature past what has become an out-of-control development process. /quote Yeah, right... and santa will give me an Audi TT for xmas :) What he's trying to say is: Linux has no money to buy us out with, so we're not interested in it. Then of course there's the slam against Linus Torvalds who has been patient, but should (IMHO) sue SCO for slander, misappropriation of Linux code in violation of the GPL, etc. Ciao, David A. Bandel Never happen. Linus is to much of a moderate to do something so personally extreme. Linus reflects the thinking of a majority of developers within theLINUX community, and most of those people *hate* dealing lawyers, and only work with lawyers if they have to. And that is the opensource software community only real weakness, and Linux as an OS could die from this. SCO has raised the ante and tossed another 2 suits at IBM, at another billion each. The suit SCO vs IBM now totals some $3 Billion, so I don't see a forseeable end in sight for a while in this legal monetary lawsuit mess. SCO corporate must continue to pursue this course, since it made a promise to it's shareholders that it will endeavour to return to profitability. So far, their stock has jump to past $11.50 since the stock falloff. So, their doing what they promised. Since SCO is a puppet of MS, and IBM is making to return to the personal PC market, MS will make Linux a costly or at least unprofitable for IBM if it pursues further developement, support, advertising with/for Linux. Microsoft can't get their feet wet in Linux, and it really pisses them off that a hobby OS is taking market share away from them. The only lawsuit left I'm waiting for, is for SCO to go after the GPL, and make the source code license for Linux invalid, and in direct violation of the UNIX license. I'm pretty sure OpenSoftware and the Linux kernel project will die in about another 5 - 7 years after that, whether of or not SCO is successful. __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
