Re: who has built Mozilla from source?
Net Llama wrote: > --- Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>IIRC, just ./configure, no options at all. I'd do it again to make >> > > That worked. So, its definitely some of the options I chose. thanks. Cool. BTW, if you pulled from CVS, they recommend NOT using 'cvs update' to update the tree, but rather 'make -f client.mk checkout'. Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: who has built Mozilla from source?
Previously, Net Llama chose to write: > --- Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Net Llama wrote: > > > Ughh...make bombed out after about 45 seconds of compiling: > > > gcc -Wl,--wrap -Wl,malloc -Wl,--wrap -Wl,free -Wl,--wrap -Wl,realloc > > > -Wl,--wrap -Wl,__builtin_new -Wl,--wrap -Wl,__builtin_vec_new > > > > -Wl,--wrap > > > > > -Wl,__builtin_delete -Wl,--wrap -Wl,__builtin_vec_delete -Wl,--wrap > > > -Wl,PR_Free -Wl,--wrap -Wl,PR_Malloc -Wl,--wrap -Wl,PR_Calloc > > > > -Wl,--wrap > > > > > -Wl,PR_Realloc -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -W -Wno-unused > > > > -Wpointer-arith > > > > > -Wcast-align -pedantic -Wno-long-long -pthread -pipe -DDEBUG > > > > -D_DEBUG > > > > > -DDEBUG_netllama -DTRACING -ffunction-sections -O -o xpt_dump > > > > xpt_dump.o > > > > >-L../../../../dist/bin -L../../../../dist/lib > > > ../../../../dist/lib/libxpt.a -ldl -lm -lc > > > ../../../../dist/lib/libxpt.a(xpt_arena.o): In function > > > `XPT_DestroyArena': > > > xpt_arena.o(.text.XPT_DestroyArena+0x28): undefined reference to > > > `__wrap_free' > > > xpt_arena.o(.text.XPT_DestroyArena+0x3a): undefined reference to > > > `__wrap_free' > > > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > > > make[5]: *** [xpt_dump] Error 1 > > > make[5]: Leaving directory > > > `/home/netllama/stuff/mozilla/xpcom/typelib/xpt/tools' > > > make[4]: *** [export] Error 2 > > > make[4]: Leaving directory > > > `/home/netllama/stuff/mozilla/xpcom/typelib/xpt' > > > make[3]: *** [export] Error 2 > > > make[3]: Leaving directory > > > > `/home/netllama/stuff/mozilla/xpcom/typelib' > > > > > make[2]: *** [export] Error 2 > > > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/netllama/stuff/mozilla/xpcom' > > > make[1]: *** [tier_9] Error 2 > > > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/netllama/stuff/mozilla' > > > make: *** [default] Error 2 > > > > > > I've got no clue what this means. Anyone? > > > > What are your versions of gtk+, gtk+-devel, gtk+-devel-static (1.2.8 > > for > > me), libglib and libglib-devel (1.2.9)? > > gtk+-1.2.10 > gtk+-devel-1.2.10 > glib-1.2.10 > glib-devel-1.2.10 > > > What version of libIDL and libIDL-devel (0.6.5 for me)? > > libIDL-0.6.5 > libIDL-devel-0.6.5 > > Any other ideas? Do you know what your configure line looked like? Its > highly possible that i chose some bad options, since i was guessing > fairly wildly on some of the stuff. > > BTW: What about libglib? I've got glib-1.2.8, glib-devel-1.2.8, but I also have libglib, and libglib-devel installed (1.2.9). Apparently, they're different -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: who has built Mozilla from source?
Net Llama wrote: > --- Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Net Llama wrote: >> >>>Ughh...make bombed out after about 45 seconds of compiling: >>>gcc -Wl,--wrap -Wl,malloc -Wl,--wrap -Wl,free -Wl,--wrap -Wl,realloc >>>-Wl,--wrap -Wl,__builtin_new -Wl,--wrap -Wl,__builtin_vec_new >>> >>-Wl,--wrap >> >>>-Wl,__builtin_delete -Wl,--wrap -Wl,__builtin_vec_delete -Wl,--wrap >>>-Wl,PR_Free -Wl,--wrap -Wl,PR_Malloc -Wl,--wrap -Wl,PR_Calloc >>> >>-Wl,--wrap >> >>>-Wl,PR_Realloc -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -W -Wno-unused >>> >>-Wpointer-arith >> >>>-Wcast-align -pedantic -Wno-long-long -pthread -pipe -DDEBUG >>> >>-D_DEBUG >> >>>-DDEBUG_netllama -DTRACING -ffunction-sections -O -o xpt_dump >>> >>xpt_dump.o >> >>> -L../../../../dist/bin -L../../../../dist/lib >>>../../../../dist/lib/libxpt.a -ldl -lm -lc >>>../../../../dist/lib/libxpt.a(xpt_arena.o): In function >>>`XPT_DestroyArena': >>>xpt_arena.o(.text.XPT_DestroyArena+0x28): undefined reference to >>>`__wrap_free' >>>xpt_arena.o(.text.XPT_DestroyArena+0x3a): undefined reference to >>>`__wrap_free' >>>collect2: ld returned 1 exit status >>>make[5]: *** [xpt_dump] Error 1 >>>make[5]: Leaving directory >>>`/home/netllama/stuff/mozilla/xpcom/typelib/xpt/tools' >>>make[4]: *** [export] Error 2 >>>make[4]: Leaving directory >>>`/home/netllama/stuff/mozilla/xpcom/typelib/xpt' >>>make[3]: *** [export] Error 2 >>>make[3]: Leaving directory >>> >>`/home/netllama/stuff/mozilla/xpcom/typelib' >> >>>make[2]: *** [export] Error 2 >>>make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/netllama/stuff/mozilla/xpcom' >>>make[1]: *** [tier_9] Error 2 >>>make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/netllama/stuff/mozilla' >>>make: *** [default] Error 2 >>> >>>I've got no clue what this means. Anyone? >>> >>> >>What are your versions of gtk+, gtk+-devel, gtk+-devel-static (1.2.8 >>for >>me), libglib and libglib-devel (1.2.9)? >> > > gtk+-1.2.10 > gtk+-devel-1.2.10 > glib-1.2.10 > glib-devel-1.2.10 > > >>What version of libIDL and libIDL-devel (0.6.5 for me)? >> > > libIDL-0.6.5 > libIDL-devel-0.6.5 > > Any other ideas? Do you know what your configure line looked like? Its > highly possible that i chose some bad options, since i was guessing > fairly wildly on some of the stuff. IIRC, just ./configure, no options at all. I'd do it again to make sure, but I'm running into a time crunch over the next few hours. Probly won't get to look at it again until tomorrow. You want my config.log? Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Comcast mail
Bill Campbell wrote: > On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 01:46:01PM -0500, Tim Wunder wrote: > >> >>FYI, Joel: >>I just went to http://www.comcast.net and was allowed to go to member >>services and create additional users. Got the same names as before. I >>had to use MSIE, since the page wouldn't load properly in Mozilla. >> > > There was an article in the Seattle Times this morning on Comcast tracking > the web sites their customers visit. I read the whole thing, but if > they're using something like akami to proxy web requests, this would be > easy for them to do. > Really? Even if you don't use their proxy server? Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Comcast mail
FYI, Joel: I just went to http://www.comcast.net and was allowed to go to member services and create additional users. Got the same names as before. I had to use MSIE, since the page wouldn't load properly in Mozilla. Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: who has built Mozilla from source?
Net Llama wrote: > --- Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Net Llama wrote: >> >>>Subject basically asks it all. Has anyone successfully built >>> >>Mozilla >> >>>from source? If so, what kind of voo-doo monkey magic did you need >>> >>to >> >>>get it to build into a fully functional package? >>> >>Built it. Haven't tested it a whole lot. >>Followed instructions on >>http://www.mozilla.org/build/unix-details.html >> >>Used make and not gmake, of course. >>I executed dist/bin/mozilla and it started right up. But, I really >>haven't used it all that much. It did load my profile data since all >>my >>bookmarks were there and my home page hafdn't changed. But... I really >> >>just started it up to see if it worked and didn't browase much or try >>to >>read mail/news with it. >> >>eW3.1 with some updates. I met the minimum requirements listed on the >>referenced page. >> > > Ughh...make bombed out after about 45 seconds of compiling: > gcc -Wl,--wrap -Wl,malloc -Wl,--wrap -Wl,free -Wl,--wrap -Wl,realloc > -Wl,--wrap -Wl,__builtin_new -Wl,--wrap -Wl,__builtin_vec_new -Wl,--wrap > -Wl,__builtin_delete -Wl,--wrap -Wl,__builtin_vec_delete -Wl,--wrap > -Wl,PR_Free -Wl,--wrap -Wl,PR_Malloc -Wl,--wrap -Wl,PR_Calloc -Wl,--wrap > -Wl,PR_Realloc -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -W -Wno-unused -Wpointer-arith > -Wcast-align -pedantic -Wno-long-long -pthread -pipe -DDEBUG -D_DEBUG > -DDEBUG_netllama -DTRACING -ffunction-sections -O -o xpt_dump xpt_dump.o >-L../../../../dist/bin -L../../../../dist/lib > ../../../../dist/lib/libxpt.a -ldl -lm -lc > ../../../../dist/lib/libxpt.a(xpt_arena.o): In function > `XPT_DestroyArena': > xpt_arena.o(.text.XPT_DestroyArena+0x28): undefined reference to > `__wrap_free' > xpt_arena.o(.text.XPT_DestroyArena+0x3a): undefined reference to > `__wrap_free' > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > make[5]: *** [xpt_dump] Error 1 > make[5]: Leaving directory > `/home/netllama/stuff/mozilla/xpcom/typelib/xpt/tools' > make[4]: *** [export] Error 2 > make[4]: Leaving directory > `/home/netllama/stuff/mozilla/xpcom/typelib/xpt' > make[3]: *** [export] Error 2 > make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/netllama/stuff/mozilla/xpcom/typelib' > make[2]: *** [export] Error 2 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/netllama/stuff/mozilla/xpcom' > make[1]: *** [tier_9] Error 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/netllama/stuff/mozilla' > make: *** [default] Error 2 > > I've got no clue what this means. Anyone? > What are your versions of gtk+, gtk+-devel, gtk+-devel-static (1.2.8 for me), libglib and libglib-devel (1.2.9)? What version of libIDL and libIDL-devel (0.6.5 for me)? There's a possibility that it's not buildable, but that's doubtful. I built the cvs version at around 1:00 PM EST yesterday. Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: who has built Mozilla from source?
Net Llama wrote: > Subject basically asks it all. Has anyone successfully built Mozilla > from source? If so, what kind of voo-doo monkey magic did you need to > get it to build into a fully functional package? Built it. Haven't tested it a whole lot. Followed instructions on http://www.mozilla.org/build/unix-details.html Used make and not gmake, of course. I executed dist/bin/mozilla and it started right up. But, I really haven't used it all that much. It did load my profile data since all my bookmarks were there and my home page hafdn't changed. But... I really just started it up to see if it worked and didn't browase much or try to read mail/news with it. eW3.1 with some updates. I met the minimum requirements listed on the referenced page. Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: couple of quick stupid questions
Ted Ozolins wrote: > On Tuesday 12 February 2002 11:21 am, Federico Voges wrote: > >>Doug, >> >>The correct URL form is: irc://irc.openprojects.net/linux-users :) >> >>On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:16:16 -0300, Federico Voges wrote: >> >>>Doug, >>> >>>1. Channel: #linux-users >>> Server: irc.openprojects.net >>> >>>2. irc://irc.openprojects.net/#linux-users ?? >>> > > When connected to irc.openprojects.net using KVIrc (2.1.1) and do a list of > channels, I do not see #linux-users. Is it actually up and running? > > Well, it was yesterday afternoon and last night... Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: couple of quick stupid questions
Federico Voges wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Doug, > > The correct URL form is: irc://irc.openprojects.net/linux-users :) > Clicking that link with Mozilla will open a ChatZilla window and connect to the #linux-users channel on irc.openprojects.net. Haven't tried with Konqueror, yet. FWIW, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: couple of quick stupid questions
Douglas J Hunley wrote: > 1. what's the linux-users channel on IRC? I forget... On irc.openprojects.net, channel #linux-users > 2. can one create a hyperlink in HTML to an irc channel? if so, how? > 3. anyone know of an irc->html forum (and vice-versa) gateway? > dunno either :-( ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Comcast mail
I feel your pain... You could always run a pop3 server, or imap, and allow external access to hammershome.com. Better than having her use AOL... BTW, my wife uses yahoo web-based mail. She switched everything over to that after @home lost her configuration data and her e-mail was inactive for 3 days (happened over a weekend last year sometime and nobody was available that could fix their database...). I've read that you can even get POP access to your yahoo account, if you agree to receive spam^H^H^H^Hadvertising. Regards, Tim Previously, Joel Hammer chose to write: > What a @#$%^ service. I use my hammershome address for most of my stuff but > my daughter needs an email address, too. I suppose she'll need to use aol. > Thanks, > Joel > > On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 12:02:10AM -0500, Tim Wunder wrote: > > Previously, Joel Hammer chose to write: > > > Any comcast users here? > > > Currently I have multiple mail boxes on my @HOME account. The people at > > > comcast tell me that I can only have one mailbox (account name) when I > > > switch over to the comcast mail server. Can this be true? > > > Joel > > > > AFAIK, that's true, for the time being. Eventually, we're supposed to be > > able to set up a total of 7 e-mail addresses. They will not guarantee > > that all non-primary users will get the same e-mail address names. > > > > > > Things to Keep in Mind: > > > > * Your e-mail address will change from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > (1) > > * Coming soon, you will have the ability to create up to 6 additional > > e-mail addresses (for a total of 7) should you prefer to use a different > > e-mail address than the one provided above. > > > > > > That's one of the reasons I got aroud to setting up sendmail to send and > > receive mail. One less thing I need to rely on Comcast to provide me. > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above > URL. -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Comcast mail
Previously, Joel Hammer chose to write: > Any comcast users here? > Currently I have multiple mail boxes on my @HOME account. The people at > comcast tell me that I can only have one mailbox (account name) when I > switch over to the comcast mail server. Can this be true? > Joel > AFAIK, that's true, for the time being. Eventually, we're supposed to be able to set up a total of 7 e-mail addresses. They will not guarantee that all non-primary users will get the same e-mail address names. Things to Keep in Mind: * Your e-mail address will change from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (1) * Coming soon, you will have the ability to create up to 6 additional e-mail addresses (for a total of 7) should you prefer to use a different e-mail address than the one provided above. That's one of the reasons I got aroud to setting up sendmail to send and receive mail. One less thing I need to rely on Comcast to provide me. HTH, Tim -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: weird opera behavior
dep wrote: > damndest thing. on my wife's machine, opera all of a sudden displays > no images at all and instead merely has the boxes containing "image." > everywhere, so it's not as if advertisements are getting busted. no > changes in system -- it just one day began doing this. > > i haven't really dived into it yet. anybody have ideas where to look > when i do? > Sounds like a cache problem to me, FWIW Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Comcast question: dynamic ip and hostname
Previously, Joel Hammer chose to write: > BTW, my current plan is, if I have to reboot, I will not run dhcpd and > not ask to be reassigned an ip number. In effect, I will act like I have a > static number. Afterall, they did give an infinite lease when they assigned > my number to me. Has anyone tried this? > Joel > Hi Joel, Thru several re-boots of my router (opening and closing ports), my IP address has yet to change. I don't think you have to worry about using DHCP to get your IP address. It seems each cable modem gets a unique IP address that doesn't change. HTH, Tim -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: xfce question
Previously, Net Llama chose to write: > --- Rick Sivernell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > List > > > > In xfce can you put icons on the desktop like in kde2 does? I > > would like to set some icon shortcuts. xfce is great. > > AFAIK, you can't place icons on the desktop, only in the control panel > bar thingy. > You can customize the mouse generated menu (left mouse button click) to > include whatever you want in it. > You can iconify apps, which places them on the desktop as an icon, but there still open and running, I think. Probly not what he wants... Tim -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Attn Sendmail experts
Previously, David A. Bandel chose to write: > On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 14:42:47 -0500 > begin Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed forth: > > I've got a bunch of files with .mc extensions in > > /usr/share/sendmail/cf/cf. Should I edit the "generic-linux.mc", > > "generic-openlinux.mc" file, or the "mail.cs.mc" file? Or should I be > > looking somewhere else? > > use the generic-openlinux.mc file. But you should already have > genericstable support (in hash format). > That's what I did. It didn't have genericstable in there, so I added it. > > > BTW I'm running sendmail-8.11-1 on Caldera eWorkstation 3.1. > > I believe you already have what you need, you just need to create the > genericstable and genericstable.db. > > You will also need CG lines (outgoing domains) or sendmail will refuse to > rewrite per the genericstable stuff. > Hmmm... lessee. Nope, no CG lines. Is that a problem? The re-writing appears to be happening OK. > Now, if you have defined DM (masquerade_as) and also have > (masquerade_envelope), you'll almost certainly need > FEATURE(limited_masquerade). > I have a defined DM, yes. I just added FEATURE(limited_masquerade) because of a problem I was having with the Return Path not getting masqueraded. Why would I nead "limited_masquerade"? It seems to be working without it. From the blurb on the sendmail.org site, it doesn't really apply to my small home network (I don't think). > You can check out your changes like this: > > sendmail -bt -d21.9 > /tryflags hs > /try local <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > you can use +d to get out. > > Ciao, > > David A. Bandel Thanks David. Tim -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
(NEVERMIND!) Re: Attn Sendmail experts
I figgered it out, sorry to have bothered you. Tim Tim Wunder wrote: > Hi all, > OK. I got sendmail working. I can use sendmail to send mail and I can > receive mail into my domain for all users. I'm remapping some mail names > using "virtusertable" and everything is working just beautifully. I even > tested my server for an open relay on abuse.net and everything appears > normal. > I now want to reverse map login names to e-mail names and this is where > I'm stuck. According to the FAQs at www.sendmail.org: > > > If you would like to reverse-map local users for out-bound mail, you > will need to add support for the generics table to your .mc file: > > FEATURE(`genericstable', `dbm /etc/mail/genericstable')dnl > GENERICS_DOMAIN_FILE(`/etc/mail/generics-domains')dnl > > > My question is: WTF is my ".mc file"? > > I've got a bunch of files with .mc extensions in > /usr/share/sendmail/cf/cf. Should I edit the "generic-linux.mc", > "generic-openlinux.mc" file, or the "mail.cs.mc" file? Or should I be > looking somewhere else? > > Also, this is telling me to use "`dbm /etc/mail/genericstable'". When I > made my virtusertable.db, I had to use "makemap hash" because my version > of makemap didn't support "dbm", should I convert this to "`hash > /etc/mail/genericstable'"? > > BTW I'm running sendmail-8.11-1 on Caldera eWorkstation 3.1. > ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Attn Sendmail experts
Hi all, OK. I got sendmail working. I can use sendmail to send mail and I can receive mail into my domain for all users. I'm remapping some mail names using "virtusertable" and everything is working just beautifully. I even tested my server for an open relay on abuse.net and everything appears normal. I now want to reverse map login names to e-mail names and this is where I'm stuck. According to the FAQs at www.sendmail.org: If you would like to reverse-map local users for out-bound mail, you will need to add support for the generics table to your .mc file: FEATURE(`genericstable', `dbm /etc/mail/genericstable')dnl GENERICS_DOMAIN_FILE(`/etc/mail/generics-domains')dnl My question is: WTF is my ".mc file"? I've got a bunch of files with .mc extensions in /usr/share/sendmail/cf/cf. Should I edit the "generic-linux.mc", "generic-openlinux.mc" file, or the "mail.cs.mc" file? Or should I be looking somewhere else? Also, this is telling me to use "`dbm /etc/mail/genericstable'". When I made my virtusertable.db, I had to use "makemap hash" because my version of makemap didn't support "dbm", should I convert this to "`hash /etc/mail/genericstable'"? BTW I'm running sendmail-8.11-1 on Caldera eWorkstation 3.1. Thanks, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: test
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Re: Commercial CD burning software
Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 09:13:39 -0500
> Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> | Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
> | > Has anyone tried this for Linux?
> | >
> | > http://www.musicmatch.com/home/
> | >
> | > It is CD/DVD ripper/burner software that claims to do alot.
> | >
> | > There is a Linux version. The basic version is a free (big) download.
> | > The pro costs a bit but seems to do alot.
> | >
> | > So, before I download, I thought I would ask.
> |
> | All I know about them is their website doesn't play nice with the
> | current Mozilla nightly I'm using.
>
> I still use 0.94 (or 0.91 - I can't remember and it is at home) and
> it worked fine. As this has usually been the case, I have not
> upgraded Mozilla for a while. Any suggestions as to the latest
> greatest version?
>
>
0.9.4 is the same base code as Netscape 6.2. For a more stable version
of the same code base, you could download 0.9.4.1 (Netscape 6.2.1), but
I believe you'd need to compile it. Moz is currently at 0.9.7, but 0.9.8
is very close... they're working on a few crasher bugs. There is a
significant performance boost with recent versions over 0.9.4. So, that
being said, wait a week and grab 0.9.8.
Regarding MusicMatch's web site, I believe they're pages have some
fancy-ass browser sniffing code that I don't completely understand that
causes the problem:
var isMac = (bP.indexOf("Mac") != -1) ? true : false;
var isPC = (bP.indexOf("Win") != -1) ? true : false;
var isLinux = (bP.indexOf("Linux") != -1) ? true : false;
var isIE4 = (bP.indexOf("MSIE 4") != -1) ? true : false;
var isIE45 = (bP.indexOf("MSIE 4.5") != -1) ? true : false;
var isNav3 = (bV == 3 && bN == "Netscape") ? true : false;
var isNav4 = (bV == 4 && bN == "Netscape") ? true : false;
var isNav6 = (bV > 4 && bN == "Netscape") ? true : false;
var isIE = (bN.indexOf("Microsoft") != -1) ? true : false;
var isDHTML = (bV > 3) ? true : false;
This is telling my untrained eye that they test for linux first and
present a different web page based on that, so it would make sense that
it works correctly under linux (I haven't tried it there, yet). It will
not work properly with the Mozilla nightly I'm currently using under
Win2K. I'm guessing that had I been using Netscape 6, it would work. My
problem could also be a bug in Mozilla. I'll persue that angle a little
further...
Regards,
Tim
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Re: Commercial CD burning software
Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > Has anyone tried this for Linux? > > http://www.musicmatch.com/home/ > > It is CD/DVD ripper/burner software that claims to do alot. > > There is a Linux version. The basic version is a free (big) download. > The pro costs a bit but seems to do alot. > > So, before I download, I thought I would ask. > > All I know about them is their website doesn't play nice with the current Mozilla nightly I'm using. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Linux Compete for Microsoft partners
dep wrote: > On Tuesday 29 January 2002 09:17, Rick Sivernell wrote: > > | Actually a friend of his put XP on a machine & has had nothing but > | problems ever since. I would think he would have gotten the > | message. What is a dad to do? > > laugh when it blows up on him and, if he mentions it, say, "i do not > have time for that crap." > FWIW, this is EXACTLY what I did at my house. I stopped supporting Windows completely at home. Any problems and they were on their own. My response would be, "if it were linux, I could help you". I support Windows enough at work, I certainly don't want to do it at home. My son's PC is now 100% linux while I still have Win98 laying around so that I can use it for doing my taxes. (I'm finally Quicken free, using GNUCash.) Rick, your son might find this article interesting. It's not written by anyone at LinuxPlanet, but it's good none-the-less: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/23777.html Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: xfce
Rick Sivernell wrote: >> > > Thanks guys. I have dl the latest already. I can force the rpm -nodeps as it has a > depens on xscreensaver. I did build the src rpm as Lonnie suggested. My problem is > after building xscreensaver ./conf make make install. the rpm does not see > xscreen. trying to rpm build from rpm --tarbuild but nothing seems to be > understood by rpm. > > [root@RSivernell xfce]# rpm -tarbuild xscreensaver-4.00.tar > rpm: --tarbuild (-t) requires one of a,b,i,c,p,l as its sole argument rpm won't see the install via tarball, yes that's true. If xscreensaver is installed, it'll work. There's nothing wrong with installing rpms with --nodeps, as long as you KNOW that whatever deps it has are satisfied (as rpm only knows about things installed via rpm, it will not know about things installed from tarball). I don't know anything about the --tarbuild feature of rpm, but I believe it requires a specfile and a bunch of other hoo-hah to get it to work properly. If you're concerned about maintaining the rpm database so that it knows about your xscreensaver, it might be easier for you to use a program called checkinstall to build an rpm for you. Check it out at http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/ I've only used it a few times, myself, but it seems to work as advertised. Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: xfce
Net Llama wrote: > XFCE can also be downloaded from the XFCE website, http://www.xfce.org > Seeing how a new stable version of XFCE was released about a week ago, i > kinda doubt what's on the CD is remotely up to date. > Agreed, but it was a painless install using rpm, unlike what it appears that Rick is going through. With that in mind though, perhaps I'll mosey over to xfce.org and download the latest for myself. I've played in XFCE a few times and am impressed with it's speed. I use it when I want to quickly get to an xterm. But I still prefer KDE and all its bloated glory ;-) Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: xfce
Rick Sivernell wrote: > How do you build a *.tar to rpm > the xfce rpm wants a xscreensaver as dep. I have dled it & still the rpm > complains. So I will try to make rpm od xscreensaver. > > [root@RSivernell xfce]# rpm -Uvh > /usr/src/OpenLinux/RPMS/i386/xfce-3.8.14c-1.i386.rpm error: failed dependencies: > xscreensaver is needed by xfce-3.8.14c-1 > [root@RSivernell xfce]# > > used the following > [root@RSivernell xfce]# rpm --tarbuild xscreensaver-4.00.tar > rpm: --tarbuild (-t) requires one of a,b,i,c,p,l as its sole argument > > rpm will install with --nodeps > > does xscreen server need xml gle glut to be used > > cheers Hi Rick, XFCE is part of the supplimental CD that shipped with OL3.1 and can be downloaded from ftp://ftp.iso.caldera.com/pub/skunkware/. It's what I used to install Gnome 1.4, XFCE and a bunch of other stuff. Of course, I don't know if you're willing to do a 650MB download to get an XFCE that will most assuredly work with Caldera (at least 3.1...). Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: xfree-4.2+ now does a weirdness
dep wrote: > puzzling thing is, and it could be merely coincidence, this has > happened only during the night. if i leave the computer alone for > many hours during the day, it does not exhibit this misbehavior. > which leads me to wonder if there's something in a cron job that is > triggering the problem. > > no, i don't have a telnet server set up at all, so i can't go in and > look that way. > > ideas? > Can't you use ssh to get into the box to see what's up? I'm not running telnet either, but I can ssh to both my linux machines at home. An invaluable troubleshooting tool. Beyond that, I have no idea what could be causing your problem, although I'm inclined to believe your suspicion that it's a cron job. Can you determine what specific cron jobs are running overnight? Execute them manually and see if any of them trigger the problem. Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: init and defunct process cleanup
Net Llama wrote: > My understanding is that defunct processes are zombies, and can't be > cleaned up with a reboot. Do you mean can't be cleaned up *without* a reboot? Under AIX, defuncts process can only be cleaned up by a reboot, AFAIK. Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Intel compiler
Kurt Wall wrote: >>--- Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>My take on the whole affair is that Intel is making sure it's new P4 >>>is properly supported... in that its' new optimizaions are being >>>exploited by this compiler. That said... I'll find out shortly if >>>its' worth the salt. The curious thing is... they want $500.00 for >>>the fully supported product... >>> >>I don't know that this is their reasoning. Intel worked very closely >>with various OSS groups to make sure that their I64 had good support >>in Linux. I think Intel is just looking to make a buck. >> > > Likely so. Various folks from Intel also participate in GCC development. > Intel has a vested interest in making sure that code will run on the > IA64 platform. > Any word on how well the compiler works with AMD Athlon/Duron chips? Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Article: Converting A Company To OSS
Previously, Joel Hammer chose to write: > Like the author, I too find that staroffice works, despite being > ugly. Since I have upgraded to a faster work station, it doesn't seem > so slow. I was suprised that he sounded as if all the various workers > were running software installed locally, not on a server with X terminals > for clients. That is the place you make your money, I think. However, > unlike him, I have found staroffice to be a fine platform to load *ppt > documents, and, if you want, it is OK for email and web browsing. It seems > especially nice for reading attachements, compared to other alternatives. > I am a bit suprised they just didn't use StarOffice all the way, ie. for > email and web browsing, too. > FYI, StarOffice 6 will not have e-mail or web browsing capabilities. The entire desktop thingy that SO 5.2 had is gone, too. Tim -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: routing a private ip
If you've got an old PC laying around, you could build yourself a freesco router. I'm using an old P133 with 32 MB RAM, which is overkill. All you really need is a 486 and 8 to 16 MB RAM. I'm using just the motherboard, 2 NICs and a floppy. It can handle port forwarding, which is what you want. You can forward any external port to any port on any machine on your LAN. It connects to my Cable modem without a problem. How well it connects to ADSL, I don't know. You can check out at http://www.freesco.org. HTH, Tim Previously, Tom Wilson chose to write: > On Friday 25 January 2002 11 23:55 pm, Bruce Marshall's voice rose above > the ones in my head and declared: > > I assume by 'private ip' you really mean a static IP. (it's always the > > same) > > I have a DHCP assigned address although it has been the same one since I > got my DSL a year ago. My assigned IP is a private class A. > 10.xxx.xxx.xxx > > > Sounds like you want the same situation that I have here (static IP, but > > I use a dial-up line) I host a web server and wouldn't *dare* put up > > an ftp server. You'll be over-run with door knockers... > > I was thinking of hosting my own web server and ftp. My IPS provides me > with 10 MB of webspace but I want the experience of setting up my own. And > I have some friends that swap a lot of MP3's of Phish and Grateful Dead > concerts and they mostly do it via ftp. I was gonna put up a non-anonymous > ftp using something other than wu-ftp. > > > In any event all I think you need is masquerading of your internal > > network. All your machines would have local addresses of 192.168.0.xx > > or such and your ADSL connected machine becomes the gateway to the Inet. > > I am going to set up my internal network (192.168.0.xx range) to masq > through my firewall that has my external interface point to the > 10.xxx.xxx.xxx that I have from my ISP. Problem is how do I get incoming > connections routed to a 10.xxx.xxx,xxx private address. > > > Now I have my web server on my inet connected machine. Placing it on > > some other machine in your LAN that isn't directly connected can take > > some work as you will have to forward incoming connections to that > > machine. > > Yes it is. But I am willing to put in the work and have had some previous > help in IP forwarding. It may take awhile but I am willing to give it my > best. > > > But dyndns is the way to go if you can't get your ISP to host your > > domain. > > They will host the domain for me but it all cost more money above and > beyond my current ISP and DSL provide costs. And that is what I want to > avoid is paying more money for stuf I am really just doing for fun right > now. > > Thanks a bunch -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Netscape and symbolic links
Are you running Netscape 6.2.1 or 6.2. 6.2.1 fixes some things, but I don't know if your problem is one of them. FYI, Netscape 6.2 and 6.2.1 are based on Mozilla 0.9.4, which was released in September, over 4 months ago. Mozilla is days away from 0.9.8. You also don't have to compile it if you don't want to , they have binary tarballs. Bookmarks should transfer over fine, as should e-mails. Mozilla will store profile data in ~/.mozilla, I believe Netscape 6x will store it in ~/.nestape6, but I don't know for sure (I've never actually installed Netscape 6 ;-) ) . So it should be possible to run them both simultaneously. Regards, Tim Previously, Joel Hammer chose to write: > I don't have a new version of mozilla to run. I have no assurance it would > compile and run on my machine, and I am getting too old and tired to switch > applications (netscape 4.75 to netscape 6.0 to opera (two versions), and > finally to netscape 6.2, just because there are a few things on the current > app not working quite right. I am tired of solving the same problem over > and over. Bring on some new ones! > And, there are always unforeseen problems. Would my bookmarks transfer > over? Anyway, netscape 6.2 has worked on every webpage I have tried so far > EXCEPT the federal loan page for my son's school loan. That I had to use > explorer for with win4lin. I will try mozilla on my redhat machine to see > if that will work for this federal loan page. > Joel > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 04:04:45PM -0800, Net Llama wrote: > > --- Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have just noticed a problem with netscape 6.2. When I try to open a > > > file or look into a directory on my local computer, it will not do it > > > if it involves following a symbolic link. I can go directly to the > > > file, > > > bypassing the link, and open the file with no difficulties. Has anyone > > > seen this before? > > > > *sigh* > > Joel, what do you have against using Mozilla? This bug doesn't exist in > > Mozilla. > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above > URL. -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Nameserver fails after Comcast@home transition to Comcast.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Tim, > > That's exactly what I mean. It should be 64.48.0.5 and 64.48.0.6 as > nameservers under the new IP, but I still have to use 24.5.80.33 or > 24.5.80.34 for my internet connection sharing, 'cause if I use the > 64.48, nothing gets forwarded. Huh? Well, I can't help you there. I'm using a router (freesco, http://www.freesco.org) for NAT and forwarding. Reconfiguring it for the new Comcast.net was a simple as re-booting. Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Nameserver fails after Comcast@home transition to Comcast.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello All,. > > Last night was the night for my market to transition from comcast@home to > comcast.net. I have a box setup with Suse7.2, suse-firewall2 as a router > and it uses dhcp to get it's IP address. I had to reboot for some strange > reason to find out the new IP and nameservers. I then immediately went to > change all my boxes (mix of Linux/Win9x) nameservers to the new one found > in resolv.conf, but nothing will forward. I went back to the old name > servers but with the new IP address via dhcp and things work as usual. > Detail: I am on the dalecty01.va.comcast.net domain, but the nameservers > are md.comcast.home.com or something ( I am at work now and don't remember) > Has anyone made the transition and if so, are your nameserver IP's working > right or did you have to use the old ones? > I'm confused, how can you use a domain name for a nameserver (md.comcast.home.com), don't you need an IP address? Otherwise, how can you resolve the name of the nameserver? Mine's working fine using IP addresses: 68.34.76.5 68.34.76.6 Under @home, the nameservers were: 24.3.0.33 24.3.0.34 I'm in the Baltimore, MD area, if that matters... HTH, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: install of XFree86-4.2.0 not quite right
I was thinking that your .xsession-errors file might contain a clue, but that doesn't come into play until you log in, I think... It IS possible that there's something specific to gdm and X 4.2.0 that's causing the problem. Because a file hasn't changed doesn't mean that something within it can't cause a problem with a new program. When you issue startx from the command line, nothing in gdm affects X and it works for you. Entering runlevel 5 and using gdm causes you a problem. It seems logical that the problem is within gdm. I rather doubted fonts and the config file (unless whatever command invokes gdm specifies a config file that has a problem within it), but threw them out as potential problem areas. The key here is that startx works fine, gdm doesn't. It might be worth trying another GUI login manager to see if the problem persists. If it does, you're back to square one. Previously, Net Llama chose to write: > All of the files in /etc/X11/gdm (including gdmrc) have not been changed > in nearly a year. I just wish I had more of an error to go on than just > that stupid respawning one. > > --- Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can you try xdm or maybe update gdm? Maybe something's wrong with gdm > > (as I > > grasp for another straw...) > > > > Is there anything wierd in you gdmrc file (if it exists -- I use kdm > > and it > > has a kdmrc file)? > > = > > Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com > > . > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above > URL. -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: install of XFree86-4.2.0 not quite right
Previously, Net Llama chose to write: > --- Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Net Llama wrote: > > > Greetings, > > > I built XFree86-4.2.0 from source this morning. I had been running > > > XFree86-4.1.0 for several months. THe build went swimmingly in > > > > about 45 > > > > > minutes. > > > However, something isn't quite right somewhere, and i can't figure > > > > out > > > > > why at the moment. If I attempt to switch to runlevel 5 from 3 X > > > > fails > > > > > to start, and i got the ominous error on the console: > > > id 'x' respawning too quickly, suspended for 5 minutes > > > > > > However, if i simply do a 'startx' at the console, X fires up > > > > without a > > > > > single problem for any user (root & others). In fact, i'm typing > > > > this > > > > > in Mozilla on the afflicted box right now. > > > > > > So, my best guess is that something wacky is going on with gdm. > > > > BTW, > > > > > this is box is running a very heavily altered version of Redhat. > > > > > > To add a few more data points, I looked in /var/log/XFree86.0.log > > > > and > > > > > there were no errors at all. I looked at /var/log/messages, and > > > > there > > > > > are no clues either. > > > > > > > > > Anyone have any ideas on where I can poke around? > > > > XF86Config-4 or XF86Config > > This isn't a Caldera box, its Redhat, and I installed XFree86-4.1.0 from > source as well. > > > Could it be a font problem? > > Doubtful. Like i said, X fires up and runs just fine with 'startx'. It > just bombs when trying to run gdm as it goes to runlevel 5. > > Can you try xdm or maybe update gdm? Maybe something's wrong with gdm (as I grasp for another straw...) Is there anything wierd in you gdmrc file (if it exists -- I use kdm and it has a kdmrc file)? -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: install of XFree86-4.2.0 not quite right
Net Llama wrote: > Greetings, > I built XFree86-4.2.0 from source this morning. I had been running > XFree86-4.1.0 for several months. THe build went swimmingly in about 45 > minutes. > However, something isn't quite right somewhere, and i can't figure out > why at the moment. If I attempt to switch to runlevel 5 from 3 X fails > to start, and i got the ominous error on the console: > id 'x' respawning too quickly, suspended for 5 minutes > > However, if i simply do a 'startx' at the console, X fires up without a > single problem for any user (root & others). In fact, i'm typing this > in Mozilla on the afflicted box right now. > > So, my best guess is that something wacky is going on with gdm. BTW, > this is box is running a very heavily altered version of Redhat. > > To add a few more data points, I looked in /var/log/XFree86.0.log and > there were no errors at all. I looked at /var/log/messages, and there > are no clues either. > > > Anyone have any ideas on where I can poke around? > XF86Config-4 or XF86Config Could it be a font problem? Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: an interesting experience
Net Llama wrote: > --- Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Net Llama wrote: >> >> >>>Windoze will let you completely fubar the video settings to >>> >>something >> >>>above what the monitor will handle. Good luck getting that fixed >>>without reinstalling the OS, when you have no video, no telnet, no >>> >>ssh. >> >>You boot into safe mode and run 640x480 and fix it. Not ALL Windows >>problems require re-installing the O/S. In fact, Windows users >>re-install the O/S far more frequently than is required. >> > > Last I checked NT4 didn't have a safe mode. If some luser > unintentionally (or otherwise) screwed the video settings, it was time > to see how the blind use windoze. Maybe not... No NT4 experience here. I've only used/supported Win 9x and Win2K. Win2K has a safe mode, of sorts (I forget the exact terminology it uses). Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: an interesting experience
Michael Hipp wrote: > > FWIW, as a fifteen-year customer of MS and mostly satisfied one. I have > decided to boycott XP - it's just intolerable. Worst UI design I've ever > seen. And to have been marketed as the most stable OS ever, they missed that IIRC, it's marketed as the most stable WINDOWS O/S ever. That is not necessarily wrong. However, I do agree that the the UI is hideous... Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: an interesting experience
Net Llama wrote: > Windoze will let you completely fubar the video settings to something > above what the monitor will handle. Good luck getting that fixed > without reinstalling the OS, when you have no video, no telnet, no ssh. > You boot into safe mode and run 640x480 and fix it. Not ALL Windows problems require re-installing the O/S. In fact, Windows users re-install the O/S far more frequently than is required. Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: an interesting experience
Previously, Douglas J Hunley chose to write:
> Michael Hipp babbled on about:
> > I just spent a very long frustrating week working for many hours every
> > day to get an ATI XPERT 128 card to work under Linux. Xfree says it
> > works. The COL list says it works. But I tried 2+ different distros and 3
> > different machines and more XF86Config files than I care to remember and
> > it would not function under X even at 640x480/60Hz. All the helpful ideas
> > from the COL list were to no avail. I put it in a Win2k box and it is
> > configured 1st time correctly (and no reboot required). I put it in a
> > Win98 box and it at least comes up and works at VGA resolution. {Many
> > other examples could be cited - this is just the one I'm infuriated about
> > at this moment.}
>
> that's strange. just list the ChipID statement in your XF86Config file.
> I had this working before I switched machines. 4.2.0 (which just came out)
> supports this out of the box as well. This particular issue is no different
> on windows vs. linux. it's a driver issue. the chipset on recent xpert
> cards are different than the previous. windows will say "i dont know what
> the video card is, use vga" where linux says "i dont' know what the video
> card is. tell me." no real difference
Except if you boot into runlevel 5. Windows will give you a usable GUI, linux
won't.
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Re: Where is the news.linux.nf newsgroup?
Previously, Mel Roman chose to write: > >Um... > >news.linux.nf is the server not the newsgroup. > > OK. I'm an idiot. There. I said it. And to prove > it, I'm still having problems. > > I registered news.linux.nf as a news server on my > newsreader(KNode) and I got an error message > indicating that KNode could not resolve the domain > name. I tried nntp.news.linux.nf also (same result). > I realize that this is incredibly simple. What am I > doing wrong? I've never had this problem with other > newsgroups. > dunno, resolved just fine for me. Check your spelling. Try ping'g news.linux.nf Tim -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Where is the news.linux.nf newsgroup?
Previously, Mel Roman chose to write: > Hello: > > I like to be able to participate in this forum through > the advertised news.linux.nf newsgroup, but I can't > seem to find it (after looking on a couple of news > servers). > > Is the newsgroup inactive? Do I need to point to a > particular news server? Um... news.linux.nf is the server not the newsgroup. HTH, Tim -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Microsoft Support
Previously, Ian chose to write: > Douglas J Hunley wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled on about: > > > > > Not bad, I kinda watched this thread with amusement, in case nobody was > keeping track here are the entries in no particular order, although > possibly chronological. > > Must Consult with Someone Else, > Mouse Certified System Engineer > Must Confer with Someone Experienced > Microsoft Certified Solitaire Expert > Mandrake Consultant & Suse Expert > My Certification Somewhat Exaggerated > Mentally Crippled Self Evangelists > My Capabilities Seriously Exaggerated Valuable info like this need to be on the SxS. Bedtime reading, perhaps? -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: [fsl-discuss] Standards: Register: Phillips moves to put 'poison' label on protected audio CDs
Douglas J Hunley wrote: > Looks like Phillips actually has a clue! Go Phillips! OK. I admit it. I'm confused... If these "protected audio" CDs are playable in an ordinary CD player, how, exactly, are they copy protected? Can't I just plug the output of my CD player into the input of my soundcard and record the audio as a .wav, then burn it to CD? Please enlighten me. Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: More Steps Jan16
Previously, Mike Andrew chose to write: > On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 04:27, Tim Wunder wrote: > >ide-scsi does NOT cover them with *the exact same* /dev/names. > > Thanx for that Tim, I have crib notes that state otherwise, they're wrong. > I do know that ide-scsi will take over the ls120/zip ide-internal > if allowed to, so I'll investigate which is what so that even this wrinkle > is sorted out. Well, while I was updating my checkbook using GNUCash from CVS (it has scheduled transactiosn -- sort of...), I decided to compile the sd_mod.o module that I was missing (I chose not to compile SCSI disk support last time I recompiled my kernel). ide-scsi is all you need, yes. It uses (on my system with no other SCSI disks) /dev/sda4 to access the Zip drive, ide-floppy uses /dev/hdc4. Which is as I expected. Regards, Tim -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Netscape webmin fails
Rick Sivernell wrote: > Roger > > I have gone & reinstalled netscape. I moved all, /opt/netscape & .netscape > to backup roles, reinstalled netscape. Reset path in /etc/profile & rebooted, > netscape now operates. When I insert url localhost:1000/, I stll get the mess > Failed to load requested page in opera & in netscape : Document has no data. > any Ideas here. Is there a cgi page missing or some file? > > cheers > > You say "I insert url localhost:1000/", does that mean http://localhost:1000 or https://localhost:1000 Webmin on Caldera OL3.1 uses https. HTH, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Partitioner
Previously, Keith Antoine chose to write: > On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:33,Bruce Marshall scribed: > > On Tuesday 15 January 2002 18:26 pm, Peter Ruskin wrote: > > > Partition Magic _still_ does not understand ext3, reiserfs, jfs, etc. > > > Â If you're only interested in NTFS and ext3 ( and linux swap ) it's OK > > > but far too expensive. > > > > It doesn't have to. There are other ways to format once a partition is > > made. > > However what happens when you wish to resize a partition/partitions that > are ext3; it cannot do that, just found out this week. Cannot work with > ext3 partitions. But isn't ext3 just ext2 with journaling? Can't you make the partition ext2 without destroying the data? Then, resize the partition as ext2 and the rebuild the journal and make it an ext3 partition? Just asking... Tim -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: More Steps Jan16
Mike Andrew wrote: > Bedtime -> ide cd burning (revised) Says: "The above order of module loading will ensure that your zips and tapes will remain as ide controlled devices, if that is want you want. The reality is that both of these drivers are SCSI emulators and they in fact use truncated code from ide-scsi to achieve an identical result. Thus, you can cheerfully eliminate their need. ide-scsi will cover them with the exact same /dev/names. I have included the above modprobe list to orient you to what's happening, not, what you need to do. The end result of all this is that by eliminating any reference to any of the ide-xxx type drivers in your /etc/modules.conf (or wherever device loading is instantiated /etc/rc.modules eg) and simply stating ide-scsi, your problems are over for modular drivers." But, the fact remains that if I do NOT load ide-floppy first and rely on ide-scsi, ide-scsi does NOT cover them with *the exact same* /dev/names. With ide-floppy loaded first, I access my Zip drive on /dev/hdc4, without it, I have NO access to my Zip drive (ostensibly because I have NOT compiled scsi disk support into my kernel (CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD)). At least it is that way using Caldera eW3.1 with kernel 2.4.9. Other that that little nit, the document is very well written and has helped me understand the ide-scsi process a great deal. Thanks! Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: Need help to get back on the list
Douglas J Hunley wrote: > forwarded per Joel's request. He can receive mail from the list fine, but > whenever he tries to send to linux.nf he gets rejected with what's below. > anyone know how to help him? > > -- Forwarded Message -- > > Subject: Need help to get back on the list > Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 21:27:57 -0500 > From: Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I need help to get back on the linux step by step mailing list. > Maybe you can relay this to the list or to the right person. I had to > change my ip address because of the @HOME troubles. Everything seems to > be going well except I couldn't post to the linux list. I re-subscribed, > but this is what I get in return mail now: > > 451 [EMAIL PROTECTED] reply: read error from linux.nf. > > ... while talking to mail.panamanow.net.: > RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <<< 550 5.7.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Relaying denied. IP name possibly > forged [68.33.0.214] > > That possibly forged ip is the one I was assigned by @HOME. If you > could forward this to the list, maybe someone could let me know how to > solve this. > > Thanks, > Joel > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- > > Joel, Are you using your own box as the smtp server for sending mail? I'm not experiencing any problems and I'm using mail.twsn1.md.home.com as my smtp server (while at home, anyway). Try setting up your mailer to use the old @home mail server as your smtp server and see if you can post. HTH, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: How trashed is it?
Net Llama wrote: > --- Jay Nugent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Greetings, >> >>On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, burns wrote: >> >> >>>On January 14, 2002 09:13 pm, Jerry McBride wrote: >>> If you're running a linux box as root and you execute a root only executable and it comes back with... error: this must be run in root mode... >>>Are you in a root session? Or are you only SU? >>> >>>If the latter, try logging into an actual root session. >>> >> Exactly. You're really only HALF-root if you just do an 'su' or an >>'su >>root'. You need to use 'su - root' in order to attain all of root's >>profile, priveledges, and permissions... >> > > Funny, i've never had any such problems becoming root with a simple 'su'. > My installation of RedHat 7.0 requires 'su -' to get root's path. Executing 'su -' puts you in /root and you get full root paths and access. Every Caldera distro I've used (2.3, 2.4, 3.1) didn't require that, simply 'su'. As Collins said, it varies by distro. Since you've used RedHat, I'm surprised you haven't run into this. I haven't seen where including 'root' in the su command is required, on either AIX or linux. AFAIK a user name on the su command is only required if you want to switch to a non-root user. Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: IDE ZIP drive problems (SOLVED!)
Previously, Mike Andrew chose to write: > ide-floppy MUST be hard wired. Meaning it must either be part of the > inittab process for the distro. Eg: /etc/rc.d/rc.local for RH, > /etc/modules/default for Caldera. OR, it must be compiled monolothic. > > OR > > you can invoke ide-scsi > > Either way, you *also* require > > sd_mod.o and scsi-mod.o to load. (These normally autoload on an > /sbin/mount) > Well, now I know why ide-scsi won't work for me. When I compiled my kernel, I did not configure it for SCSI disk support (# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD is not set), I have no sd_mod.o module. So, with my kernel, I need to load ide-floppy before ide-scsi so that I can access my Zip drive as an IDE device (/dev/hdc4). I can live with that. At least now I know why. Regards, Tim -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: CUPS...
Jerry McBride wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 08:38:50 -0500 Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 17:47:36 -0800 (PDT) "stayler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>>Oh yes. >>> >>>The damned thing likes to time out and shut down at random intervals. >>>I am considering LPRng as a replacement >>> >>> >>> > > > What I don't understand is... I can : less text.file > /dev/lp0 and it prints out >perfectly... > > Try the same thing from Kups setup (test page) or anywhere else and it's a failure. >Kups never detects my printer! It used to work somewhat, but now it's dead. > > You're not running lpd alongside cupsd are you? cupsd should serve as a replacement for lpd and it should be able to handle lp commands. HTH, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: IDE ZIP drive problems (SOLVED!)
Mike Andrew wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 06:36, Tim Wunder wrote: > >>Previously, Tim Wunder chose to write: >> >> > > [slash] > > [snippety] > > [hack] > > 1) network issues are irrelevant, look elsewhere. > Agreed. > 2) paride is required for any parallel connected zip, ls120 or backpack > device. It, and all it's associated drivers (pf, epat etc) are TOTALLY > irrelevant to your ide based zip drive. Compile or no compile, they make no > difference. > Agreed. > 3) ide-floppy >>>>IS<<<<< the driver for ide zips and ls120's. Period. > > it is NOT for floppies per se. > Agreed. > 4) ide-scsi (surprise surprise) will serve as a REPLACEMENT to ide-floppy. > Why? Because ide-floppy is a cut down lean and mean ide-scsi. (so too, > ide-tape) > > ide-floppy MUST be hard wired. Meaning it must either be part of the inittab > process for the distro. Eg: /etc/rc.d/rc.local for RH, /etc/modules/default > for Caldera. OR, it must be compiled monolothic. > > OR > > you can invoke ide-scsi > > Either way, you *also* require > > sd_mod.o and scsi-mod.o to load. (These normally autoload on an /sbin/mount) > > The resulting device name from either method is /dev/sdX (a hard drive) > > The problem you are having (with either method) is discovering where the hell > your *&%%&*(* /dev/sdXn device got to!!! > > The reason is that the scsi base module (scsi_mod.o) will assign device names > on a first come, first served basis. If you have no other scsi devices in > your system, it's /dev/sda. Otherwise it depends solely on what gets loaded > first. > > see bulk storage-> zip->internal->ide on the site below for a topology of the > modules required. > > This is contrary to my experience yesterday. I have one other SCSI device, my scsi CD-RW, scd0 (sr0). I'm fairly certain I tried mounting sda AND sda4, no go (mighta even tried sda1, 2 and 3...). I know tried various sdX4 devices, none of which would mount. What works, as I mentioned in my previous post, is loading the ide-floppy module before ide-scsi. When i do this, I can mount the device hdc4 as my Zip drive. Now if what you're telling me is true, and ide-floppy is a subset of ide-scsi, there should be no reason why I need to load ide-floppy to get access to the Zip drive. And this may well be true. I know that I tried insmod'ing ide-floppy after ide-scsi was already loaded and I couldn't find the drive anywhere. This is worth more experimentation and when I get home, I'll play around with it a little more. Regards, Tim -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, Kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.1, XFree86 4.1.0 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
ZIP drive and AMD
I'm having trouble with copying files to my Zip drive when it's automounted using amd. I get an error pertaining to not being able to change permissions for /auto/hdc4/. If I mount the drive without using amd, I'm able to copy the file without error. I'm guessing that I get the error because cp wants to preserve permissions on the file (user/group). Since amd mounts the drive as root user, my user can't change permissions on the file to preserve user/group. Is there a way to get amd to mount the drive as an ordinary user? Permissions on /mnt/hdc4 are drwxrwxrwx 7 root root16384 Dec 31 1969 hdc4 Whithout amd running, the permissions of /auto/hdc4 are # ll /auto drwxrwxrwx 2 root users1024 Jan 13 09:10 hdc4 Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks, Tim -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: CDROM and ZIP problems
Previously, Keith Antoine chose to write: > As I was an interested party I have been in both threads. I also realise > that NO-ONE mentioned the distro they were using, for it has been my > experience lately swapping between Caldera, Mandrake, Suse all to often > that there are differences in the way they handle things. > > I have seen comments like, well mine works fine, or mine does so-an-so. > Might be a good idea to quote what the distro and version is in future. Trying a new sig... If it don't come thru: Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 HTH, Tim -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: IDE ZIP drive problems (SOLVED!)
Previously, Tim Wunder chose to write: This works: > I'm gonna test appending the line "hdc=ide-floppy" to my kernel line for my > normal kernel and see if that changes anything. I believe that would be > equivalent to CONFIG_DEV_IDEFLOPPY=y when compiling a kernel. > What also works, and what I've ended up doing, is loading the ide-floppy module before ide-scsi. I've now got my CD devices working properly: getting seen by my burning software (xcdroast and koncd) and getting automounted; AND my ZIP drive working, with and without automount. Why my other kernel couldn't see my NIC is something I just don't care about right now... Next, try to figure out why the hell KDE 2.2.1 wants to put 2 CD-ROM links on my desktop (in addition to my CD Writer link), one for /auto/cdrom and another for /auto/sr1. Those are both the same device. I've tried rm'ing /dev/cdrom and /auto/cdrom, but the blasted desktop icon keeps coming back. I believe ther's a FAQ somwhere on this, but I doubt that I'll get to it today. Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: IDE ZIP drive problems
Previously, Joel Hammer chose to write: > I am puzzled that your are talking about /dev/hdc4 /mnt/floppy when you > are saying that your network card is not working. > Well, to attempt to clarify: The network card works when I boot the normall kernel that I use day-to-day, but the ZIP won't. The example mount command I referenced was with that kernel. I can mount the ZIP just fine with the alternate kernel, but the network card gets lost. > As I recall, the trick with the IOMega zip drive was to configure printer > support as a module (lp), since that has to be loaded after the modules > for the zip drive. > This would make sense for a parallel port ZIP, I can't see where printer support as a module would affect communications with an IDE device. (of course, I don't know why my network card won't work when I boot with the kernel from which I CAN access my ZIP drive). > That was the only trick as far at the kernel, I believe. I don't see > how that will interfere with your floppy drive or your network card. > Me either. > The CONFIG_DEV_IDEFLOPPY is not required for floppies. Maybe unset that and > your floppy will work. > No, it's not required for access to std floppies, but it can be used to access an IDE ZIP (at least according to the help text associated with it). That why I compiled it into the one kernel version I've tried. And that's the kernel that works. Don't be confused by my attempting to mount the device onto /mnt/floppy. I'm trying to troubleshoot an IDE ZIP drive. Trying to mount it on /mnt/floppy had no more significance than any oher mount point I would've tried. I'm gonna test appending the line "hdc=ide-floppy" to my kernel line for my normal kernel and see if that changes anything. I believe that would be equivalent to CONFIG_DEV_IDEFLOPPY=y when compiling a kernel. Thanks, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
IDE ZIP drive problems
Now that I've taken the morning to clean up my system WRT to ide-scsi and my CD-ROM and CD-RW, I've decided to try to tackle the problem of why I can't get access to my IDE-ZIP drive with my normal kernel. I managed to configure and build a kernel from which I CAN access my ZIP drive, but when I use it, my netwrok card becomes inaccessible. I've tried to compare the two configurations to see what's wrong, but the only diffs I find are as follows: Can access ZIPCan't access ZIP CONFIG_PARIDE=m not set CONFIG_PARIDE_PARPORT=ynot set CONFIG_DEV_IDECD=y=m CONFIG_DEV_IDEFLOPPY=y =m The normal kernel (the one that can't seem to talk to my ZIP drive) seems to find it based on this (from dmesg): hda: IBM-DJNA-371350, ATA DISK drive hdb: Maxtor 53073H4, ATA DISK drive hdc: IOMEGA ZIP 100 ATAPI, ATAPI FLOPPY drive hdd: CD-950E/TKU, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive But when the ide-scsi module gets loaded, it seems to find the ZIP drive and assign it a scsi ID (again, from dmesg): scsi1 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices Vendor: IOMEGAModel: ZIP 100 Rev: 03.H Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 Vendor: E-IDE Model: CD-950E/TKU Rev: A40 Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Attached scsi CD-ROM sr1 at scsi1, channel 0, id 1, lun 0 sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 52x/52x cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray Attempts to mount /dev/hdc4 fail as follows: # mount -tvfat /dev/hdc4 /mnt/floppy mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc4, or too many mounted file systems (aren't you trying to mount an extended partition, instead of some logical partition inside?) I get similar errors with and without loading the ide-floppy module. /dev/sr1 was created by me as a symlink to /dev/scd1, which seems to have been automagically created and works fine. Do I need to create a device file for the ZIP drive? If so, how do I go about determining the major/minor number that it should have? Thanks, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cdrom help
Previously, Tim Wunder chose to write: Yeah, I know, replying to my own post, yada, yada > My COL3.1 apparently uses both srx and scdx to refer to the same things: > brwxrwxrwx 2 root disk 11, 0 Apr 27 2001 /dev/scd0 > brw--- 1 dad root 11, 1 Apr 27 2001 /dev/scd1 > brw--- 1 dad root 11, 0 Apr 27 2001 /dev/sr0 > brw-rw-r-- 1 root disk 11, 1 Apr 27 2001 /dev/sr1 > > Interesting to note the user/group for my devices. Not sure what's going on > there... > sr0 and scd0 are my SCSI CDRW, sr1 and scd1 are my IDE CD-ROM, /dev/hdd. I > happen to have hdd=ide-scsi in my menu.lst. I also have ide-scsi loaded as > a module in /etc/modules/default. Everything works, but it sure seems > horked. Guess I'll try to play around with it some to see if I can figger > out what's going on. It is likely only the only thing this task will > accomplish, though, is breakage... > I'll start by removing the /dev/sr0 and sr1 files and take "hdd=ide-scsi" > out of grub's menu.lst file and see what happens. Well, I removed the /dev/sr0 and sr1 files and took "hdd=ide-scsi" out of grub's menu.lst file and, upon first reboot, my ide CD-ROM was no longer seen by xcdroast as a scsi device. In order for my IDE CD-ROM to be seen as a scsi device, I had to add "hdd=ide-scsi" to the kernel line in my menu.lst file. This is contrary to what the bedtime reading document states. So I set out to determine why. Upon investigation, I made a WAG that the reason I needed to load ide-scsi during boot was that I had IDE CDROM support compiled into the kernel. I tested my WAG by recompiling the kernel with IDE-CDROM support as a module. Upon reboot with this new kernel, I am able to access my IDE-CDROM using xcdroast. Now, off to figure out why I can't access my IDE-ZIP drive with this same kernel. But that should be another thread... Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cdrom help
Previously, David A. Bandel chose to write: > On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 21:33:19 +1130 > Mike Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed into the bitstream: > > [snip] > > > modern distros deprecate the use of srX, get rid of them, literally. > > Promise from me that you can do no harm by deleting them. > > What's your source for this? I run 2.4.17 w/ devfs (the latest). At > boot, I have neither scd# nor sr# devices, but when I modprobe ide-scsi > then sr_mod, the only devices created are sr0 and sr1. These devices are > created dynamically by sr_mod. The info is built into the module. If > what you say is true, then I don't understand why I only get sr# and not > scd#. > > ? > My COL3.1 apparently uses both srx and scdx to refer to the same things: brwxrwxrwx 2 root disk 11, 0 Apr 27 2001 /dev/scd0 brw--- 1 dad root 11, 1 Apr 27 2001 /dev/scd1 brw--- 1 dad root 11, 0 Apr 27 2001 /dev/sr0 brw-rw-r-- 1 root disk 11, 1 Apr 27 2001 /dev/sr1 Interesting to note the user/group for my devices. Not sure what's going on there... sr0 and scd0 are my SCSI CDRW, sr1 and scd1 are my IDE CD-ROM, /dev/hdd. I happen to have hdd=ide-scsi in my menu.lst. I also have ide-scsi loaded as a module in /etc/modules/default. Everything works, but it sure seems horked. Guess I'll try to play around with it some to see if I can figger out what's going on. It is likely only the only thing this task will accomplish, though, is breakage... I'll start by removing the /dev/sr0 and sr1 files and take "hdd=ide-scsi" out of grub's menu.lst file and see what happens. Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cdrom help
Rick, I'm bowing out on this one, now. Checking my own system sure seems to have confused the issue (for me, anyway). I've got 1 SCSI CDRW and an IDE CD-ROM and they both work and I'm not having any problems. That being said, however, I seem to have both "hdd=ide-scsi" in the kernel line of my menu.lst file AND ide-scsi getting loaded as a module in /etc/modules/default. After reading that bedtime reading page, it's a wonder anything works... Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: CD Burn Software
Previously, Ken Moffat chose to write: > On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 15:07:04 -0500 > > Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For KDE2x, I prefer KonCD, which you seem to have not listed. > > Seems to be beta software. Stable enough, I assume? I use 0.9.8. Current beta is 1.1, but you have to get it from CVS, IIRC. I believe there was once a 1.0 release, but it doesn't seem to be on the download page, just 1.0rc2. I'd try that if I were you. Unless you have the strange desire to try to download koncd from KDE CVS and compile it from there. Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cdrom help
Previously, Ken Moffat chose to write: > On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 16:02:53 -0500 > > Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Recommendation: > > Remove all symlinks in /dev > > Remove the kernel line "hdc=ide-scsi" > > Re-boot the system and look at your /dev directory. As I understand it, > > you > should then have > > > /dev/sr0: SCSI CD-ROM or CDRW > > /dev/sr1: SCSI CDRW or CD-ROM > > /dev/hdc: IDE CD-ROM > erm, make that /dev/scd0: SCSI CD-ROM or CDRW /dev/scd1: SCSI CDRW or CD-ROM /dev/hdc: IDE CD-ROM > PMFJI > Here is what worked for me. > I have 1 cdrw and one dvd, both shown as scsi, and the devices are scd0 > and scd1. (I've seen somewhere that sr0 and sr1 are outdated. (?)) And I I stand corrected. (jeez, and I JUST read the damn bedtime reading page, too!) Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cdrom help
Previously, Rick Sivernell chose to write: > On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 15:12:15 -0500 > Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ok now have read the BedTime reader. What I get is > > 1 If cdrom is not IDE-RW then hdx=ide-scsi is not needed, > especially if you have real scsi cdroms & writers. > As long as you don't you want your cd burning software to see it, yes. > 2. if you have 3 cdrom drives you should have sr0 sr1 sr2 & > etc for list of the drives you have. > If they are all scsi or emulated as scsi by the ide-scsi module. > 3. If you have 3 or more drivbes & all ypou have is /sev/sr0 / sr1, > do you need to creat a new device for the remaining cddrives. > If so, how or what is the propper meth to perform this. > I don't follow this. AFAIK, all devices identified by the kernel and the ide-scsi module will have their device names created automagically. FWIW, I believe mknod is the command you need to use to create devices. But I'm not convinced that's what you want to do. Recommendation: Remove all symlinks in /dev Remove the kernel line "hdc=ide-scsi" Re-boot the system and look at your /dev directory. As I understand it, you should then have /dev/sr0: SCSI CD-ROM or CDRW /dev/sr1: SCSI CDRW or CD-ROM /dev/hdc: IDE CD-ROM If you want the IDE CD-ROM to be seen by xcdroast, or your preferred CD burning software, you'll need to load the ide-scsi module during the boot process (refer to the Bedtime reading to find the right place according to your distro). That should give you a third device, /dev/sr2, which should be the IDE-CDROM as seen thru scsi-emulation. Test the config by placing a data CD in each drive, one by one, and mounting it, 'mount -tiso9660 /dev/srx /mnt/' Then, create the /dev/cdrom, /dev/cdwriter, /dev/ symlinks you want. HTH, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cdrom help
Rick, There's a new page on linux.nf under Bedtime Reading under IDE-Burners that explains the ide-scsi module. You'd do well to check it out. I believe your problem stems from the assumtion that /dev/sr0 and /dev/scd0 are different devices. From reading that newly authored bedtime reading page, those devices are the same. HTH, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: CD Burn Software
Previously, Ken Moffat chose to write: > Ii have 3 choices on my kde menu under cd burners: > cdbakeoven, gnome toaster, and xcdroast > Is there a consensus of opinion as to which is best? > The only burning I've done outside of windows is 'cdrecord'ing. For KDE2x, I prefer KonCD, which you seem to have not listed. My guess regarding this list is that xcdroast will be preferred by most. Another good front-end for cd burning is gcombust, which you also failed to mention. HTH, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Comcast Cable server DHCP experience
Previously, Joel Hammer chose to write: Bear in mind that I do not run my own DNS server, nor do I host my own e-mail server (yet -- waiting for the comcast crap to work itself out). I do have a domain name, though. Once I determined that my @Home IP was no longer active, I re-booted my freesco router, which was originally configured to connect to @Home via DHCP when I installed it. It connected to Comcast.net with a new IP address using the same account number (aka hostname) that was assigned to my cable modem (which happens to be different from my original account number). I logged into the freesco, ran ifconfig to see what the new IP address is and updated my DNS records at dyndns.org. Four hours later, my hostname, www.thewunders.org (don't go there, it ain't much to look at ;-) ) was back up. My recommendation? If you've got cable internet or DSL, get yourself a router. I'm glad, though, that Joel went through what he did. Because now I know what the nameservers are supposed to be in my resolv.conf file ;-) and I now can use Comcast's servers instead of @Home's. Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
Previously, Robert L. Hemus chose to write: > My local Windoze guru says you get a better copy from CDRW to hd? and > back to CDRW. Correct or incorrect? > Bob Hemus For aduio CDs this is definately true. It's a least a good idea to rip them to the hard drive first to test the read device's ability to rip audio. I've got a 50x CD-ROM that cannot handle ripping audio at high speed (even 8x). I'm not sure why, but audio formats are different enough to cause problems with some CD readers. HTH, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Switching to DHCPDC on Comcast:SOLVED, so far
Joel Hammer wrote: > > Well, it is 5:00am here, and nothing seems to have changed overnight > in my ip addresses. So, either this went very smoothly or nothing at > all happened. > Hi Joel, Apparently, you're pretty close to where I am, since you seem to be using the same mail server as me (mail.twsn1.md.home.com). Looks like Comcast has changed my IP addy, so the change has taken effect. I have a personal web calendar running on my linux box that I access from work, and I can't get to it anymore. Seems like you're in the same boat, now. Pings of www.hammershome.com, which resolves to 24.182.146.18, time out. Do you happen to know what the new mailserver name is supposed to be? In all the correspondence they've sent me (two e-mails and a snail mail, same as you), they haven't said anything regarding the mail server that my comcast.net e-mail address wants. Since we're supoosed to be geting @home mail until Feb. 28, I'm not too worried about it, but it'd be nice if, like other ISPs, they'd give the information required to their customers. From the headers of your e-mail, it looks like it'll be "pcp361333pcs.towson01.md.pvcomcast.net", or something like that. Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: joydesk
Schmeits, Roger wrote: > I am surpised that they have no listserv at all. Rats.. I find their > prices very reasonable for 125 clients. Around $2200 with a 2 year supprt > contract with all the bells and whistles. the wireless would be nice PDAs > keep coming up in the conversion around (education you know..). > > Wonder if anyone has done any reviews-- CNET, etc on this company? > A quick search on Google for "Joydesk review" yielded these: http://serverwatch.internet.com/reviews/group-joydesk.html http://linux.davecentral.com/articles/view/770/ Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: joydesk
Schmeits, Roger wrote: > Does anyone know much about this company? http://www.joydesk.com We were > possibility looking at the Business Edition 2.6 for a replacement of our MS > Exchange 5.5 email/groupware. I know nothing other than what their website says. I found out about them while searching for groupware using google. So I, too, would be interested if anybody on list knows anything about them. Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Switching to DHCPDC on Comcast:SOLVED, so far
Joel Hammer wrote: > Thanks. That did the trick. @HOME was expecting a hostname. > I am a bit puzzled by the startup scripts. I don't know what to put into > the ifcfg-eth1 script for the dynamic parameter. So, in my usual style, > I just ripped out all the fancy garbage (That is, stuff I can't > understand) in the network startup script and configured everything > manually. Here are the three lines required to configure the network > interface. These begin with the eth1 interface down. > > /sbin/dhcpcd -d -h cc641790-a eth1 > . /var/run/dhcpcd-eth1.info > /sbin/route add -net default gw $GATEWAY eth1 > > This doesn't do anything about name resolution, I THINK. (I don't have > a clue about what happens to the /etc/hosts file, if anything.) Hard to > be sure, since the old and the new servers are still the same. We don't > switch over for a couple more days. > /etc/resolv.conf is where you want Comcast's DNS servers, on a 'nameserver ' line. I've always configured mine manually, but there may be a way to have dhcpcd or dhclient do it. HTH, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
IBM/Lotus requires using MSIE on their website
I get this when attempting to use Lotus' iNotes on line demo at http://showcase2.notes.net/inreg.nsf/regform We have detected that you are not using Microsoft Internet Explorer as your Web browser. The iNotes Web Access live demo is optimized to work with Microsoft Internet Explorer. Please reopen this demo in Microsoft Internet Explorer. Thank you! I thought IBM was a linux-friendly company... Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ssh plus PATH
Keith Antoine wrote: > On Friday 04 January 2002 06:54 am, scott curtis observed: > >>Keith Antoine wrote: >> >>>#2. Can someone tell me how one adds a PATH statement. Is there something >>>on SxS, that I missed, know its been said before but I have no hardcopy. >>>I also remember there is a prescribed command line with PATH in caps and >>>also export PATH somewhere. >>> >>As far as the path goes, if you would like to put something in the path of >>the user so that they can access it every time that they login, just edit >>the .bash_profile (I believe it is this file, provided that you are using >>bash for your shell) file in that user's directory. That is probably the >>easiest way of adding stuff to the path, just be sure to put in the ':' >>between different paths. >> >>-Scott >> > > No thats not wahat I want, sorry. Waht i need is the path ststement used when > trying to install something, tarball, and the libs are not where the prog > expects em to be ! > > Are you looking for the LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable? export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH HT, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: IT jobs Florida
Randy wrote: >>Check out the mailing list at www.flux.org for S. Florida. There are >>a lot of good techie people on it, and not being one myself, I can >>not answer intelligently (also grew up in the 70's and not many brain >>cells still alive) Or, if you wish, I can ask a few folks at the next >>meeting. >> > The 70's were hell on brain cells, I think, it's all just a blur. The Who was the commedian who said, "sure, alcohol kills brain cells, but only the WEAK ones"? ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: exchange 5.5
Schmeits, Roger wrote: > What is similar in the Linux world for a replacement of Exchange 5.5? Group > scheduling, email, resources planning (i.e. room scheduling). > > Oh yeah... You may find this link useful: http://nexist.sourceforge.net/groupware.html Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: exchange 5.5
Schmeits, Roger wrote: > What is similar in the Linux world for a replacement of Exchange 5.5? Group > scheduling, email, resources planning (i.e. room scheduling). > > You mean Groupware? Funny, I'm starting to look into this myself. Not as a replacement for Exchange, but as a new installation. I've found some that look interesting, but haven't tried any yet: Open Source: http://www.phpgroupware.org/ http://www.moregroupware.org/ http://www.anteil.com/pre_crm.htm Closed Source: http://joydesk.com/product_business.html Based on the limited demo's I tried, moregroupware looks pretty good. Anyone use any of these or have other suggestions? HTH, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: Re: elx linux
Previously, Ted Ozolins chose to write: > On Sunday 30 December 2001 08:07 am, you wrote: > > On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 07:48:54 -0800 Ted Ozolins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -- Forwarded Message -- > > > Here is the reply I received from "elx" re: some short-coming with > > > their distro. Its almost scary to think that anyone would be foolish > > > enough to run their system mainly as root. Their approach is starting > > > to look and feel ___ almost Micro$oftish :( Has anyone been able to > > > find any source code on their site? If its there, I'm definately > > > missing it, I've looked but no joy. > > > > > > Subject: Re: elx linux > > > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 14:24:49 +0530 (IST) > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Hi Ted, > > > > > > This spell check is not matured in K mail , it is still an experimental > > > feature which soon be made proper. In linux world every bit of code is > > > written with great passion and on the best effort basis. But we are > > > working to make things better. ELX believes that the main user will > > > always be root and therefore it does not give full priviledges to all > > > users. To grant access to any device you can log in as root and run > > > open your file manager and can grant access to any device or file. > > > This is more of a secuirty feature. > > > > > > Please do keep sending your suggestions and input. > > > > Ted, I believe you are misinterpreting their response (Indian British > > English?). What I think they are saying is logon as root and change the > > permissions to grant access to a particular device which is exactly what > > I've had to do for /dev/dsp on many distros to get any sounds played by > > mere mortals. > > not really since and I quote "ELX believes that the main user will > always be root " seems very clear to me. This is not a good thing. I think they mean that root is the main user in that it is the user that shall control other users and what the other users have access to. Not that you should use the system mainly as root. I think they do not mean 'main' as 'primary'. In other words, I think you lost something in their translation ;) Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: elx linux evaluation continued
Previously, Collins Richey chose to write: > On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 14:58:16 -1000 (HST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On 30-Dec-01 Collins Richey wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > 5) Unlike every distro I've used in the past, elx does not include the > > > telinit command, so the only way I could switch to run level 3 was to > > > edit > > > /etc/inittab and reboot. > > > > [snip] > > > > telinit is just a link to init > > init 3 doesn't work either. init should be in /sbin. Is it there? You may need to execute '/sbin/init 3' Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: is mozilla getting *more* buggy?
David Aikema wrote: > > On December 26, 2001 05:23 am, Tim Wunder wrote: > >> You could also try changing your chrome. Occasionally that fixes >> things. But, that being said, I suspect that upcoming milestones >> (0.9.8, 0.9.9, 0.9.10) should reverse the seeming destablization >> trend. >> > > That's what I would expect as well 0.9.7 isn't the only poor > milestone from Mozilla that I've experienced problems with. > To paraphrase the Moz developers (at least those who post to the newsgroups), Mozilla isn't for end users, per se. Only those users who are willing to test the Mozilla platform. If you want a stable, end user app, go with Netscape 6x, or Beonex. You'll be several steps in development behind Moz, but it should be a much more stable app. Even the pitiful Netscape 6.0 was more stable than the Mozilla 0.8 milestone that was released near the same time. Mozilla's milestone releases are, essentially, a slightly polished nightly. They are not immune to ANY of the problems that a typical nightly might have. That's the main reason I haven't used a milestone release in months. 0.9.4 is the last I installed under Win2K, and I rarely used it, I haven't installed a milestone under linux since I upgraded my COL2.4 to COL3.1 a few months back. In fact, if you grab a nightly from a week or so after a milestone release, you'll probly be much happier with it. Many bugs found in the milestone, as a result of more people using it, will be fixed in the upcoming nightlies. > If only Opera would start releasing versions of their browser for > linux other than these tech preview releases. I'm currently I've got no interest in Opera, at this point. But choice is a beautiful thing... Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: is mozilla getting *more* buggy?
Net Llama wrote: > --- Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Net Llama wrote: >>However, IIRC, I needed to re-create my profile not too long ago. Just >> > > Recreate it because mozilla wouldn't run, or just for the hell of it? Crashes reading mail/news. Probly segfaults, but who knows with Winders... Ordinarily, just deleting the .msf files fixes things, but that didn't work. I re-created the profile and backed up to a known good nightly. After a couple of days, I tried a new nightly and everything was fine. Not the sort of thing I'd expect to need to do when using milestone releases, but it's not unheard of. When you updated to 0.9.7, did you remove 0.9.6 completely or just untar the files on top of wherever you put 0.9.6? When I update my nightlies, I remove the old one completely, first. I rarely have problems. If you don't wanna do the new profile thing, try deleting the .msf files and the Cache. Should accomplish the same thing. > I've done that long ago, when Mozilla had some compatibility versions > between versions, and a new profile was needed every time. Ugh, was > that a pain in the ass. I spent close to an hour copy things back & > forth trying to find the right combination. > Shouldn't take that long... Just copy the Mail files with no extensions. Should be in .mozilla//.slt/Mail// and .mozilla//.slt/Mail/Local Folders/ What else is there to move? Mail and bookmarks, perhaps the user.js file, if you've modified that. You'll have to re-sub to any newsgroups, but that's no big deal. > >>backup your mail files and bookmarks.html file and you can just copy >>them into your new profile. >>You could also try changing your chrome. Occasionally that fixes >> > > Errr...changing the chrome? Do you mean the Modern/Classic thing? > Yep. Occasionally fixes things. Don't know why. Some kinda XUL thing. > > I dunno. I tried Galeon about 6 months ago, and i absolutely hated it. > Ugliest app i ever used. > That was before Galeon-1.0. Granted, I haven't used it, one of these days, maybe... Problem is, I'm satisfied with KMail/Konqueror/Mozilla at home with little motivation to try other browsers. I spend most of my playin' around time at home testing the CVS version of GNUCash, and trying to learns how the hell SND (a sound file editor) works, so I don't do alot of websurfing to really care what browser I use. Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: is mozilla getting *more* buggy?
Net Llama wrote: > > > > Subject: > > is mozilla getting *more* buggy? > From: > > Net Llama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: > > Tue, 25 Dec 2001 12:54:10 -0800 (PST) > To: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > I've been an advid Mozilla fan since something like BUILD 15. I've made > Mozilla my primary browser since about release 0.8, and i've seen some > fairly impressive progress, up until recently. > I'm typing this on 0.9.7 (the latest stable release) and i've noticed > that since 0.9.6 mozilla seems to have become more buggy & unstable. > Over the past month, Mozilla locks up on me *alot*, and segfaults > (Netscape style) almost daily. The lock ups used to be a seldom > occurance, perhaps once a week, if that. The segfaults *never* happened > to me, and now its almost expected. My web surfing habits haven't > changed. > > Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed this trend as of late? > Seems to be a common thread to some recent newsgroups postings, at least WRT 0.9.7. So I don't think you're the only one. I've been having good luck with the Nightly builds, though (W2K at work). One would think the milestone releases would be MORE stable. However, IIRC, I needed to re-create my profile not too long ago. Just backup your mail files and bookmarks.html file and you can just copy them into your new profile. You could also try changing your chrome. Occasionally that fixes things. But, that being said, I suspect that upcoming milestones (0.9.8, 0.9.9, 0.9.10) should reverse the seeming destablization trend. The Galeon recomendation is probly a good one. I haven't tried it myself, but I've yet to read anything bad about it. Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: killed gui...
Just a thought... Have you tried making /opt/kde a symlink to /opt/kde2? Could be a hard-coded script somewhere mucking things up. HTH, Tim Previously, BadMan chose to write: > Tim, I checked out the /opt/kde2/share/config but found no refrences to > kde2 in the kdmrc file.. Im not real sure what I am looking for right now. > > I get the kde2 Login gui when from console as su I do telinit3, then > telinit 5. However any user that tries to login, root, bill, etc..(about > 20) Login fails and I recieve the PAM messages, no others in any of my logs > other than secure.. going to check around in what lonnie wrote... > > > Bill Day ( a.k.a. BadMan ) 188133 http://counter.li.org > irc.openprojects.net #linux-users ( Open 24/7 ) > Our crystal tears now fall upon the ashes, but from the dust shall grow a > spirit, to be in compassion for those who are lost, and one in > determination to break those who dare test our resolve to be free... > > http://www.daysdomain.com/tribute.html > > 7:30am up 144 days, 22:01, 16 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 > > - Original Message - > From: Tim Wunder > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 7:07 PM > Subject: Re: killed gui... > > Previously, BadMan chose to write: > > This is what I receive in tail -f /var/log/secure from the kde2 kdm: > > Dec 23 17:29:03 linuxbox PAM-warn[2726]: service: kde [on terminal: :0] > > Dec 23 17:29:03 linuxbox PAM-warn[2726]: user: (uid=0) -> bill [remote: > > ?nobody@?nowhere] Dec 23 17:30:05 linuxbox PAM-warn[2726]: service: kde > > [on terminal: :0] Dec 23 17:30:05 linuxbox PAM-warn[2726]: user: > > (uid=0) -> root [remote: ?nobody@?nowhere] > > > > I can find no other items with errors from attempted logins... I have > > been doing all this without reboots(and hope to continue so) > > > > Any other Ideas where I should look for possible problems...? > > Can you return things to the way they were and start over? > > Can you log in as root and edit the login manager from within KDE? I > can't remember if KDE 2.1.1 on eD2.4 let you configure that or not. If you > can, remove all users then add them back again. > > Of course, if you can't login using kdm, I guess that'll be tough. I > never tried to remove KDE1 from eD2.4, so I can't offer too much help on > this. I assume you've read everything on the SxS site regarding the > removal of KDE1. > > Have you looked at your kdmrc file in /opt/kde2/share/config/? > > HTH, > Tim > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: killed gui...
Previously, BadMan chose to write: > This is what I receive in tail -f /var/log/secure from the kde2 kdm: > Dec 23 17:29:03 linuxbox PAM-warn[2726]: service: kde [on terminal: :0] > Dec 23 17:29:03 linuxbox PAM-warn[2726]: user: (uid=0) -> bill [remote: > ?nobody@?nowhere] Dec 23 17:30:05 linuxbox PAM-warn[2726]: service: kde [on > terminal: :0] Dec 23 17:30:05 linuxbox PAM-warn[2726]: user: (uid=0) -> > root [remote: ?nobody@?nowhere] > > I can find no other items with errors from attempted logins... I have been > doing all this without reboots(and hope to continue so) > > Any other Ideas where I should look for possible problems...? Can you return things to the way they were and start over? Can you log in as root and edit the login manager from within KDE? I can't remember if KDE 2.1.1 on eD2.4 let you configure that or not. If you can, remove all users then add them back again. Of course, if you can't login using kdm, I guess that'll be tough. I never tried to remove KDE1 from eD2.4, so I can't offer too much help on this. I assume you've read everything on the SxS site regarding the removal of KDE1. Have you looked at your kdmrc file in /opt/kde2/share/config/? HTH, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: killed gui...
Previously, BadMan chose to write: > ok, I changed my path for inittab to look in /opt/kde2/bin/kdm and receive > my gui login for kde again, however, all users(including root) get a > failed login for the kde2 desktop > > little more info, all (both kde1 and kde2 we're working perfectly before I > began this little escapade to remove kde1) > > Also, now on lookout so please excuse the crappy wordwrap > > checked /var/log/gui and pointed to /etc/X11/kdm/Xsetup_0: > /etc/X11/kdm/Xsetup_0: /opt/kde/bin/kdmdesktop: No such file or directory > > So I edited it did telinit 3 then telinit 5 got gui back but still not able > to login, see the kdm with all the available suers but login fails > /opt/kde2/share/config/kdm/kdmrc configures kdm in KDE 2.2.x, /opt/kde2/share/config/kdmrc controls it for earlier versions of KDE2. There was a major change to kdmrc from 2.1x to 2.2x. Look there for clues. HTH, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Ok... so its a stupid question
Previously, David Aikema chose to write: > 2. Would an optical mouse get enough electro-juice via the serial port to > enable it to work... or are the ps2 and usb ports capable of powering more > demanding devices? > I wouldn't think the serial port can provide enough power. The PC serial port doesn't have a dedicated power pin. AFAIK, power is gotten from there by tying certain signal pins (RTS+CTS??). I would doubt it could power it. I think you can buy adapters that'll steal power from the keyboard or mouse ports, though. Check out B&B Electronics, or Black Box. I think they have web sites. HTH, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: make uninstall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > $ ls -l a.out > -rwxr-xr-x1 kwallusers 24234 Dec 20 15:03 a.out* > > The standard "Hello, World!" program compiled without debugging > symbols (gcc hello.c): > > $ ls -l a.out > -rwxr-xr-x1 kwallusers 13250 Dec 20 15:03 a.out* > > After stripping the binary: > > $ strip a.out > $ ls -l a.out > -rwxr-xr-x1 kwallusers2984 Dec 20 15:15 a.out* > > Quite the difference in size. > Why? As it was explained to me, and as I read in the man page, *strip* "discards all symbols". What does it to the binary without debugging symbols compiled in to get such a large filesize difference? What *symbols* are compiled in other than debugging symbols? Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: make uninstall
Douglas J Hunley wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled on about: > > >>It certainly ruins debugging, but a lot of corporate IT shops strip >>executables as a matter of policy (such as making reverse engineering >>more difficult). >> > > I routinely strip the files on my system. however, the method that > checkinstall uses to determine which files to strip is flawed. try compiling > and installing XFree86 with it. It will strip the libs in such a way that X > wont' work... > > What version of Checkinstall? I'm wondering if it's a known issue that's been fixed. Current version is 1.5.0, released November 18th. The release notes don't mention anything explicitly, but not all changes make it to the release notes. There's a mailing list now (created December 5). You didn't, by chance, mention the issue on there, did you? Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: make uninstall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Douglas J Hunley wrote: > % Tim Wunder babbled on about: > % > Is it anything like Checkinstall? I was reading a little about that today. > % > It's supposed to allow you to use rpm to keep track of things you install > % > via tarball. Anyone on list use it? > % > % I use checkinstall all the time! wouldn't admin a box without it. > % HOWEVER, make sure you edit it's checkinstallrc to NOT strip executables. it > % will mess up certain things otherwise.. > > It certainly ruins debugging, but a lot of corporate IT shops strip > executables as a matter of policy (such as making reverse engineering > more difficult). > > K > Erm, pardon my ignorance, but what's "strip executables" mean? ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: make uninstall
Previously, Net Llama chose to write: > I just noticed this project on Freshmeat called "make uninstall". It > does exactly as its name describes, allows you to cleanly uninstall > packages that have been installed via the "make install" command. > > I haven't yet tried it out, but here's where you can get it: > http://freshmeat.net/releases/65197/ > Is it anything like Checkinstall? I was reading a little about that today. It's supposed to allow you to use rpm to keep track of things you install via tarball. Anyone on list use it? http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall-en.html ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT cool site
Previously, Ronnie Gauthier chose to write: > telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl Now that's neat. How long does it last? I gave it 5 minutes or so, but then gave up to do other stuff. Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: more rpm ooops
Net Llama wrote: > ...but i suspect you took a > longer, circuitous route to getting this working than was neccesary. > I wouldn't think so. His problem was that rpm didn't know about the db version he had installed (or, more specifically, the libdb version), and as a result didn't know the libdb dependancy was resolved. I imagine he coulda "--force"'d the install, or "--nodep"'d it and all woulda been OK. But, if you're gonna use rpm to install, you might as well satisfy what it thinks are its dependancies, even though the dependancies are met and rpm just doesn't know about it. As it stands now, rpm knows about his db install, and he's running a newer version than he was when he started, and he's got a current rpm version that'll read version 4 rpm's. Seems to me to be worth the potentially more ciruitous route. Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Happpy B-day Doug
Douglas J Hunley wrote: > Jer Scanlon babbled on about: > >>28, ehhh? >> >>That's not so bad. >> >>Done it a couple of time or so. >> > > LOL. thanks! > > and thanks also to zohar for the kind words (I meant to reply, but hit delete > by mistake) > Musta been youthful exuberance... Well, as long as Skippy's on list, I'm young! Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: more rpm ooops
Tony Alfrey wrote: > On Tuesday 18 December 2001 06:56 am,Tim Wunder wrote: > >>Tony Alfrey wrote: >> >>>Hi gang! >>> >>>I'm sure this must have come up before; please bear with me. >>>What's the general approach for solving "failed dependencies" when >>>the library that rpm cannot find is clearly installed? >>>Specifically, I'm installing rpm-3.0.6-4.i386.rpm and libdb.so.2 >>>cannot be found. But I know it is in /lib. >>>I've done rpm --rebuilddb and updatedb. >>>I'm not going to do --nodeps on rpm and risk having no rpm at all. >>>Thanks! >>> >>I'd try to find the package that contains libdb.so.2 and re-install >>that with 'rpm -Uvh --replacefiles'. >> >>HTH >>Tim >> > > Oh, I forgot to mention that on my box, libdb.so.2 is a link to > libdb1-2.1.2.so > > Does this confuse rpm?? > > Who knows? I know I'M confused about RPM. AFAIK, rpm only knows about what rpm installs. If you've loaded a lib via tarball, rpm won't know about it. FYI, I've got 3.0.6 installed on my Caldera eW31 system and /lib/libdb.so.2 -> libdb.so.2.7.7 /lib/libdb1.so.2 -> libdb1.so.2.7.7 libdb.so.2.7.7 & libdb1.so.2.7.7 are part of the db-2.7.7-12 rpm. 'What does rpm -q db' say? Perhaps upgrading your db package will solve your dilema. Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: more rpm ooops
Tony Alfrey wrote: > Hi gang! > > I'm sure this must have come up before; please bear with me. > What's the general approach for solving "failed dependencies" when the > library that rpm cannot find is clearly installed? > Specifically, I'm installing rpm-3.0.6-4.i386.rpm and libdb.so.2 cannot > be found. But I know it is in /lib. > I've done rpm --rebuilddb and updatedb. > I'm not going to do --nodeps on rpm and risk having no rpm at all. > Thanks! > > > I'd try to find the package that contains libdb.so.2 and re-install that with 'rpm -Uvh --replacefiles'. HTH Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Happpy B-day Doug
Tina M. Hunley wrote: > Congrats.. Best wishes and many happy returns. Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Win95 replacement
Previously, Anita Lewis chose to write: > that's the general idea. I just finished installing slackware on a laptop > with 4Mb RAM and using floppies. First there was the boot floppy with the So there might be a use for my old 486SX-33 Gateway laptop with 8MB RAM? Hmmm. Maybe I could turn it into a linux terminal... It needs a NIC, though... Anybody done this? Made a linux terminal using an old laptop. Is 8MB and a 486SX-33 enough horsepower for an X-Terminal? Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Re: ssh public key
Net Llama wrote: > What if I have a dish washer? > Fill it (with dirty) and empty it (when clean) ;-) ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: News reader
Previously, Ken Moffat chose to write: > On Sat, 15 Dec 2001 17:10:14 -0500 > > Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > While at work (Win2K), Mozilla > > serves me fine. > > Have you found Mozilla for windows to be responsive, quick to load? > I use it in Linux along with Galeon, and am looking for a replacement > for the bloated Netscape 6.2 in Windows. Yes, at least on my 1.0GHz Athlon with 256MB RAM. It had been lagging behind Netscape 4.79, until this past week. Thursday's build loaded quicker. (After logging on in the morning, I start NC4.7x, then Moz -- Moz won Friday morning for the first time.) Over the last 6-8 weeks, performance has gotten significantly better. I would expect Netscape 6.2 to lag behind since it's built from 0.9.4 (6.2.1 comes from 0.9.4.1). And I realy like the Tabs feature (N6.2 doesn't have it). Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Apache Error log entries
Ian wrote: > Tim Wunder wrote: > >>Since updating Apache to 1.3.22 on my RedHat server, I've gotten these >>entries in my error_log: >>[Tue Dec 11 04:02:01 2001] [notice] SIGHUP received. Attempting to restart >>[Tue Dec 11 04:02:01 2001] [notice] Apache/1.3.22 (Unix) >>(Red-Hat/Linux) mod_perl/1.24 configured -- resuming normal operations >>[Tue Dec 11 04:02:01 2001] [notice] suEXEC mechanism enabled (wrapper: >>/usr/sbin/suexec) >>[Tue Dec 11 04:02:01 2001] [notice] Accept mutex: sysvsem (Default: sysvsem) >>[Tue Dec 12 04:02:01 2001] [notice] SIGHUP received. Attempting to restart >>[Tue Dec 12 04:02:02 2001] [notice] Apache/1.3.22 (Unix) >>(Red-Hat/Linux) mod_perl/1.24 configured -- resuming normal operations >>[Tue Dec 12 04:02:02 2001] [notice] suEXEC mechanism enabled (wrapper: >>/usr/sbin/suexec) >>[Tue Dec 12 04:02:02 2001] [notice] Accept mutex: sysvsem (Default: sysvsem) >> > > Check your cron jobs, I'd _guess_ this is a restart for log rotation. > Yep. That's it. It didn't dawn on me that apache must be stopped in order to rotate the logs. Thanks, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
