Re: MD: A question on TOC cloning

2001-10-23 Thread Mark E. Crane


If  a portable unit is failing to record TOC information, (this is a dumb question) 
then can one safely assume that it is broken and not misconfigured?

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Michael Johnson asked,

| What MD decks can I absolutely count on for being able to clone or restore
| the TOC, or restore the audio on a disc that has recorded, but doesn't
| register the track??


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Re: MD: A question on TOC cloning

2001-10-22 Thread Peter Ravn


Hi Michael

Several decks can do it JB930, JB940, JE640, JE530 to name a few (all Sony)
can do it.
Maybe the new Sony's JE470 and -770 can too.

Peter

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 Ok, Here's a basic question that I'm sure has been asked before, but here
 goes

 What MD decks can I absolutely count on for being able to clone or restore
 the TOC, or restore the audio on a disc that has recorded, but doesn't
 register the track??

 Lemme know. Thanks

 Michael Johnson
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RE: MD: MZR900 Question

2001-10-21 Thread Mike Lastucka



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It's probably pre-bent slightly so that when the player closes (since the 
lid is coming in at an angle) it doesn't bend it.  Just my guess.

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Mine is the same way. I got my unit in December of last year. The very
top edge of the latch is bent slightly inwards, and I haven't used my
unit all that much, so I'm guessing it's by design. When you think about
it, it makes sense...a slight bend helps ensure that the top lid will
close and not catch on this latch by mistake should their tolerances be
*just* a tad off or the latch somehow loosens a bit.

Wes Hsu

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  Subject: MD: MZR900 Question
 
 
 
  I've had an MZR900 since around August and I was wondering
  about one little thing. The latch that is in the center,
  somewhat towards the left, when you open the player that
  keeps it closed, etc, is slightly battered.  The edge of it,
  closest to me while looking down on it, is somewhat pushed
  down on the end.  I never did anything to the player to make
  this happen.  I think it's because of the number of times
  I've closed it because it must be pushed in to close.  Is
  there something wrong with this?  In a few more months will
  it close at all?!  Can those of you with MZR900's look to see
  if you have the same problem.  or, quite possibly, is it
  MEANT to be this way?  I might have just never seen this
  quality before.  Thanks!  I really appreciate it.  (This list
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RE: MD: MZR900 Question

2001-10-20 Thread Wesleyan Hsu



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Mine is the same way. I got my unit in December of last year. The very
top edge of the latch is bent slightly inwards, and I haven't used my
unit all that much, so I'm guessing it's by design. When you think about
it, it makes sense...a slight bend helps ensure that the top lid will
close and not catch on this latch by mistake should their tolerances be
*just* a tad off or the latch somehow loosens a bit.

Wes Hsu

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 I've had an MZR900 since around August and I was wondering
 about one little thing. The latch that is in the center, 
 somewhat towards the left, when you open the player that 
 keeps it closed, etc, is slightly battered.  The edge of it, 
 closest to me while looking down on it, is somewhat pushed 
 down on the end.  I never did anything to the player to make 
 this happen.  I think it's because of the number of times 
 I've closed it because it must be pushed in to close.  Is 
 there something wrong with this?  In a few more months will 
 it close at all?!  Can those of you with MZR900's look to see 
 if you have the same problem.  or, quite possibly, is it 
 MEANT to be this way?  I might have just never seen this 
 quality before.  Thanks!  I really appreciate it.  (This list 
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Re: MD: A question for Mac MD users

2001-10-17 Thread Bob


this card you can select many different input and output sampling rates.
I hope this helps.

No, you don't understand; the issue has already been discussed on this list,
but I'll spell it out again.
SoundBlasters have traditionally been deprecated because their internal
representation uses a fixed rate, 48khz.  Thus when you input the usual 44.1
it's converted to 48, and if you select 44.1 out it's converted back to 44.1.
 The conversion is inexact and the result isn't equal to the input.


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 Does this edition suffer from the traditional SoundBlaster resampling
flaw?
 (POS SBs resample to 48khz internally, so an 44.1 input signal doesn't
equal
 its 44.1 out.)


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re: MD: A question for Mac MD users

2001-10-15 Thread Bob


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I see you found the Delta card. The other option is the Mac SoundBlaster
Live. You can get an inexpensive daughtercard for the SBL that adds optical
and coax out.

Does this edition suffer from the traditional SoundBlaster resampling flaw? 
(POS SBs resample to 48khz internally, so an 44.1 input signal doesn't equal
its 44.1 out.)

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Re: MD: A question for Mac MD users

2001-10-15 Thread Matt Wall


this card you can select many different input and output sampling rates.  I
hope this helps.





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 I see you found the Delta card. The other option is the Mac SoundBlaster
 Live. You can get an inexpensive daughtercard for the SBL that adds
optical
 and coax out.

 Does this edition suffer from the traditional SoundBlaster resampling
flaw?
 (POS SBs resample to 48khz internally, so an 44.1 input signal doesn't
equal
 its 44.1 out.)

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re: MD: A question for Mac MD users

2001-10-13 Thread macdef


On Wed, 10 Oct 2001 18:40:43 -0500, Matt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK, well this is more of a mac question than a md question but here goes
 anyway. has anyone found a pci card that works with pci based mac's that
 has digital out on them? and if you have how well do they work recording to
 md?

Matt:

I see you found the Delta card. The other option is the Mac SoundBlaster
Live. You can get an inexpensive daughtercard for the SBL that adds optical
and coax out.

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Re: MD: A question for Mac MD users

2001-10-13 Thread Matt Wall


Actually i used this card because the pc it was in is being upgraded, it
will be removed when the upgrade stuff is ready to put back together.
anyway for mac users it works great.

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  OK, well this is more of a mac question than a md question but here goes
  anyway. has anyone found a pci card that works with pci based mac's that
  has digital out on them? and if you have how well do they work recording
to
  md?

 Matt:

 I see you found the Delta card. The other option is the Mac SoundBlaster
 Live. You can get an inexpensive daughtercard for the SBL that adds
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RE: MD: SCMS question

2001-08-31 Thread Simon Mackay


=BEGIN QUOTE=
Last night I made a compilation CD on a Pioneer twin deck recorder for a
mate of mine, using a number of Minidisc tracks. The first few were
ANALOGUE copies of MD's as the MD's were digital copies of the original
CD. The last few were digital copies (bringing my Sony MZ-1 out of
retirement and using its digital output to feed into the CD deck! I KNEW
it would come in useful one day!), as the source was an MD recording of
an analogue tape
Once having compiled this I thought 'Hmmm, I'll make a copy of this for
myself', and put the new CD (a mixture of analogue and digital tracks)
into the CD recorder, and managed to copy it all to a blank CD.
My question is because the first few tracks were analogue copies of the
MD, the burner was quite happy to record these, but I was surprised the
last few were allowed as these were digital copies of the MD. When does
the SCMS check get done? At the start of the disc or at the start of
each track? If its the start of the disc, the analogue tracks seem to
have let the digital ones slip through. The only alternative I can think
of is that the CD recorder switched to an analogue copy for the last few
tracks?
===END QUOTE

I would suspect that the Pioneer, like most twin-deck audio CD burners,
would use SCMS-driven analogue routing. This means that if the tracks on the
original CD are marked SCMS-final, the unit would route the signal through
an internal analogue bus. The reason that this practice is common and able
to be done is that a lot of these units have dual DACs - one for each
transport. This also allows for the unit to be treated as two CD players --
useful for music stores, mixing and the like.

With regards,

Simon Mackay

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Re: MD: MDLP Question

2001-06-14 Thread Dodge


Thanks...

Then i'd have to get me a new recorder AND a new portable AND a new car MD 
AND the MDS-PC3 (if it supports MDLP)
It's a bit too costly for me... :(

But thank you anyway

Greetz,
D


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RE: MD: MDLP Question

2001-06-13 Thread Steve Hill


 Is it possible to play back MD's that were recorded in MDLP 
 on an older, 
 non MDLP player ?

No. IIRC, the tracks will play as a silence half as long as the track that
was recorded and, unless it was turned off on the recording deck, the track
title will be prefixed with LP:. Of course, tracks recorded in SP mode
will play on all MD players regardless of which recorder was used.

S.
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Re: MD: MDLP Question

2001-05-29 Thread Ken Clinger


I've made some compilation discs at LP4, for my *noisy* commute (crowded
bus, downtown traffic noises) and it's fine for that. Also probably would
work well for low-volume background music. But at home, it's obvious that
the high frequencies aren't there, and stereo isn't as stereo. 

I can't hear any difference between LP2 and SP, but I grew up on
cassettes, so my demands are probably not that stellar.


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Re: MD: MDLP Question

2001-05-29 Thread Stainless Steel Rat


* Ken Clinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]  on Tue, 29 May 2001
| I've made some compilation discs at LP4, for my *noisy* commute (crowded
| bus, downtown traffic noises) and it's fine for that. Also probably would
| work well for low-volume background music. But at home, it's obvious that
| the high frequencies aren't there, and stereo isn't as stereo.

Yep, that is pretty much exactly what you should be hearing.

Keep in mind that the majority of people carrying around portables use the
crap headphones that come with the unit.  Which means that they probably
won't be able to tell the difference between SP and LP4 and really don't
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RE: MD: MDLP Question

2001-05-26 Thread Simon Mackay


=BEGIN QUOTE===
I downloaded the codec from that page and did some tests by encoding a
WAV file at various ATRAC bitrates.  I find the LP2 bitrate to be quite
acceptable, and the LP4 bitrate to be unacceptable for music with a wide
stereo field, but perfectly acceptable for mono or narrow stereo
sources.
==END QUOTE===

MDLP, especially the LP4 mode, also can come in handy for background music
or PA-related applications where quality isn't critical. In these
environments, stereo separation isn't critical because speakers are often
located where the business owner sees fit so as to cover the area with
music. Also, the music often competes with lots of other background noise,
especially in a restaurant or bar.

Sony also promoted the concept of MDLP being suitable for long-distance
driving in countries like USA and Australia, where there is a large federal
area and you can cross the country east-to-west without passing through
border controls. They envisage that the music would be competing with the
engine and road noise while the driver is concentrating on covering the
long-distance journey and there is a need to only carry one disc full of
music to cover the journey one-way; or two discs to cover the journey there
and back without the music repeating. This would work well if the car MD
player was set in shuffle-play mode.

As for equipment used for this kind of application, the equipment should
support segue-shuffle where the next track appears to start the moment the
current track ends if the MD player is playing a disc where dead-air at
the start and end of songs is edited out. This is the behaviour that the
Sony portables and car units exhibit when placed in shuffle-play mode.

With regards,

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Re: MD: MDLP Question

2001-05-25 Thread Marc Britten


I have a R700 but i've been too lazy to play around with the mdlp function, maybe i'll 
play with it this weekend.

but thats pretty much what i've been wondering too, how much more lossy is it?

marc


On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 11:03:40AM -0400, Thomas, Ferris wrote:
 
 Has anyone on the list gone out and gotten one of the new MDLP recorders
 like SONY MZ-R700?  If so, I was wondering if this fantastic new disc-length
 comes with a cost of lossy compression?
 While the added disc length would be much appreciated, I wouldn't go for it
 at a cost of sound quality.
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Re: MD: MDLP Question

2001-05-25 Thread Steve Corey


Here's a MDLP faq:

http://www.minidisc.org/mdlpfaq.html

I downloaded the codec from that page and did some tests by encoding a
WAV file at various ATRAC bitrates.  I find the LP2 bitrate to be quite
acceptable, and the LP4 bitrate to be unacceptable for music with a wide
stereo field, but perfectly acceptable for mono or narrow stereo
sources.

Try the codec for yourself and see if you find the compression
acceptable.

-steve

Marc Britten wrote:
 
 I have a R700 but i've been too lazy to play around with the mdlp function, maybe 
i'll play with it this weekend.
 
 but thats pretty much what i've been wondering too, how much more lossy is it?
 
 marc
 
 On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 11:03:40AM -0400, Thomas, Ferris wrote:
 
  Has anyone on the list gone out and gotten one of the new MDLP recorders
  like SONY MZ-R700?  If so, I was wondering if this fantastic new disc-length
  comes with a cost of lossy compression?
  While the added disc length would be much appreciated, I wouldn't go for it
  at a cost of sound quality.
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Re: MD: MDLP Question

2001-05-25 Thread Marc Britten


cool faq, didn't see that on the sight.  i think the problem w/ mindisc.org is theres 
just too much info ;)

the 132(aka lp2) file seemed acceptable(only lisnted to a little of the example file 
linked from the faq) I'll definatly have to give it a shot this weekend, the extra 
space could goto some good use for making disc's for work use.

(any typeo's are because one arm is in a sling and that makes it hard to type)

marc

On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 11:01:47AM -0600, Steve Corey wrote:
 
 Here's a MDLP faq:
 
 http://www.minidisc.org/mdlpfaq.html
 
 I downloaded the codec from that page and did some tests by encoding a
 WAV file at various ATRAC bitrates.  I find the LP2 bitrate to be quite
 acceptable, and the LP4 bitrate to be unacceptable for music with a wide
 stereo field, but perfectly acceptable for mono or narrow stereo
 sources.
 
 Try the codec for yourself and see if you find the compression
 acceptable.
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RE: MD: Md question, Uk residents

2001-03-14 Thread Gerard Naude


The sharp mt-77 has an usb link, that the Sony models lack (correct me if
I'm wrong)...Which is useful for me, cause I need to do some recordings from
different pc's sometimes, and the sound cards on those are not always
reliable.

Thanks

Gerard Naude
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   I live in Manchester, and haven't seen the mt-77 anywhere. That
said, just on specs, I reckon the Sony MZR900 is a lot better (just
look at the battery life and extra functions).In fact, given the
differences in spec I can't see why anyone would want to buy the 77
(unless its a lot cheaper).


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Re: MD: USB question

2001-02-05 Thread J. Coon



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Thanks, Matt, Your answer helped me find a webpage that had some info on
it 
http://www.usb.org/forums/retail/messages/1845.html

and http://www.usb.org/forums/retail/messages/3251.html

http://www.usb.org/forums/retail/webboard_12031999.html

Matt Wall wrote:
 
 yes i know the answer as i've dealt with this before.  you have to get an
 ABIT specific usb header usb connector.  they really didn't use anything
 standard and so they used thier own thing.  anyway you have to get a usb
 thing that is abit specific.  go to your local computer shop (non best buy)
 and ask them, if they dont know, then look for it on pricewatch.com.  hope
 that helps.
 
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  I just picked up a 2 port USB connector for my computer.  The
  motherboard is an ABIT PX5 and it says it has USB on it.  It shows up in
  the device manager as working properly.  However, the header pins it has
  for it show a 2 pin wide 16 pin header.  the usb socket has two 5 pin
  plugs.  Anyone got any ides on how to connect it?  The ABIT site is for
  the birds...The have a newer version of the manual, but the link to it
  is bad.
 
 
 
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Re: MD: USB question

2001-02-04 Thread JT


On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, J. Coon wrote:

 I just picked up a 2 port USB connector for my computer.  The
 motherboard is an ABIT PX5 and it says it has USB on it.  It shows up in
 the device manager as working properly.  However, the header pins it has
 for it show a 2 pin wide 16 pin header.  the usb socket has two 5 pin
 plugs.  Anyone got any ides on how to connect it?  The ABIT site is for
 the birds...The have a newer version of the manual, but the link to it
 is bad.

From my understanding, there are different connections to the motherboard,
and you have to make sure you get the right one (i.e. one that fits your
motherboard).  I've only seen 2x8pin headers (on the motherboard) for USB
though, so I'm probably not much help :(

Josh

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Re: MD: USB question

2001-02-04 Thread Matt Wall


yes i know the answer as i've dealt with this before.  you have to get an
ABIT specific usb header usb connector.  they really didn't use anything
standard and so they used thier own thing.  anyway you have to get a usb
thing that is abit specific.  go to your local computer shop (non best buy)
and ask them, if they dont know, then look for it on pricewatch.com.  hope
that helps.


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 I just picked up a 2 port USB connector for my computer.  The
 motherboard is an ABIT PX5 and it says it has USB on it.  It shows up in
 the device manager as working properly.  However, the header pins it has
 for it show a 2 pin wide 16 pin header.  the usb socket has two 5 pin
 plugs.  Anyone got any ides on how to connect it?  The ABIT site is for
 the birds...The have a newer version of the manual, but the link to it
 is bad.



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Re: MD: A question...

2001-01-28 Thread Jeanmougin


At the beginning of MD, Sony sold a portable recorder with digital
optical out. Nowaday, the only equipments that have digital out capacity are
MD decks. They very often have optical out but the high-end decks have
TOSLink and S/PDIF.
Concerning me, the only equipment with digital out I own is a Sony JE 530
(excellent deck) that has one optical out only.

Don Capps a *crit :

 ...for all the MD gurus.

 Does anyone know of a MD Recorder that has a digital out (optical or spdif
 or what-have-you) other than the rather pricey HHB Portadisc professional
 recorder? Any? Thanks in advance.

 Don C.

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Re: MD: A question...

2001-01-28 Thread las


Don Capps wrote:

 Does anyone know of a MD Recorder that has a digital out (optical or spdif
 or what-have-you) other than the rather pricey HHB Portadisc professional
 recorder? Any?

Since the first Sony MZ-1 portable, they don't make them.

CD players are not problem.  But for reasons I don't understand, digital
outputs of any kind are not offered on portable MD gear.  It has nothing to do
with being able to make digital copies since they make home decks with them.

Sorry.

Larry

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RE: MD: A question...

2001-01-28 Thread Tony Antoniou


I'd say that's precisely it - a reason to make more money. Still, I can't
complain. I'd rather save my portable for live recordings and let my JA30ES
do everything else.


Adios,
LarZ

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Don Capps wrote:

 Does anyone know of a MD Recorder that has a digital out (optical or spdif
 or what-have-you) other than the rather pricey HHB Portadisc professional
 recorder? Any?

Since the first Sony MZ-1 portable, they don't make them.

CD players are not problem.  But for reasons I don't understand, digital
outputs of any kind are not offered on portable MD gear.  It has nothing to
do
with being able to make digital copies since they make home decks with them.

Sorry.

Larry

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Re: MD: A question about the titler...

2001-01-27 Thread Simon Gardner


At 10:43 27/01/2001 -0500, Donald Person wrote:
 I was reading the posts about the titling program for tha Palm. I
personally don't own a PDA because I don't like having to "draw" every
letter to enter information into it.

[OT] I don't input much by actually using the Palm itself - it just syncs 
with all my desktop data and means I have it in a much quicker and easier 
device for when I need it.

SO my question is: Is there a program
(for Windows) that will accomplish the same thing using the IrDA port on my
notebook? THAT would be awesome, and any help would be greatly appreciated
!!

There's WinRemote - http://www.czechin.com/minidisc/ , but I think you have 
to use the supplied IR box (plugs into your serial port). VirtualRemote - 
http://www.virtualremote.co.uk/ - is something similar. Again, I don't know 
whether you can use the IR on your notebook.

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RE: MD: Headphones Question

2001-01-08 Thread Francisco J. Huerta


I'd pick Senn580s over almost any dynamic headphone in the planet (with the
exception of Grado HP-1s or Sennheiser's own HD-600). But they would not be
adequate for DJ'ing. Reason being, they are open-back headphones. You won't
get no isolation from the outside whatsoever. Try www.audioadvisor.com; they
have sealed back Sennheisers (HD-210, I think?), which are also very good.
Or you could also try Beyerdinamic. Check those out on www.headphone.com.

If sound quality is what matters, though, get the 580s. If sound quality
REALLY matters, get any Stax =).

Francisco.



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 Hi all

Anybody that uses the HD-580s for djaying? If

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Re: MD: Headphones Question

2001-01-08 Thread Stainless Steel Rat


* "Francisco J. Huerta" [EMAIL PROTECTED]  on Mon, 08 Jan 2001
| have sealed back Sennheisers (HD-210, I think?), which are also very good.

HD250-II (aka HD250 linear-II).  I have a set of these.  Very nice sounding
sealed headphones.

| Or you could also try Beyerdinamic. Check those out on www.headphone.com.

As previously mentioned, the Beyerdynamic 831 sealed headphones are a
little weaker than the Sennheiser HD250-II in the bass range.
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Re: MD: Headphones Question

2001-01-05 Thread Stainless Steel Rat


* "Magic" [EMAIL PROTECTED]  on Thu, 04 Jan 2001
| I want to thank everyone for your messages. The main reason I want to
| purchase the Sony model was that I am djaying and have heard many good words
| about them for djaying... Anybody that uses the HD-580s for djaying? If
| anyone could comment on them for this particular job. Well, I know it
| depends on the music and my music (progressive house and trance) demand
| strong headphones.

Either HD580 or HD250-II will sound significantly better than anything Sony
makes.  Sony headphones are notoriously weak in the bass and upper
mid-range (and the world gets "Mega-Bass" from Sony instead of better
headphones).  Both HD580 and HD250-II have significantly better bass
response.

Do not assume that because the 580s have a higher model number they are
somehow superior.  That isn't true.  The two are comparable, with the
difference being that HD580 is open and HD250-II is sealed.  If you need
good isolation from external noise then HD250-II is the better choice,
otherwise go with HD580.

Beyer Dynamic's model 831 are a little better than HD250-II overall, but
are a little bit lacking in the bass response, whereas HD250-II is a little
bit lacking in the midrange, which is like saying that 33 degrees is a
little bit colder than 34 degrees :).
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Re: MD: Headphones Question

2001-01-04 Thread Francisco J. Huerta


HeadRoom does ship Int'l with a minimum of fuss. And yes, for 250 USD I
would go for the HD-580s and the DSP Pro virtualizer. The DSP Pro is nothing
more than a nice gimmick, but the HD-580s are really ot of this world. For
$199, you can't go wrong.

Note: Todd just made a post at Headwize.com stating that  Sennheiser will
put the 580s back in production. Which means it will go up in price in the
following months (the 580 is very cheap right now because it was supposed to
be discontinued).

Francisco.
 http://www.headphone.com/ProductsHeadphones/SennheiserHD250.asp
 http://www.headphone.com/ProductsHeadphones/SennheiserHD580.asp



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RE: MD: Headphones Question

2001-01-04 Thread Magic


Hi all

I want to thank everyone for your messages. The main reason I want to
purchase the Sony model was that I am djaying and have heard many good words
about them for djaying... Anybody that uses the HD-580s for djaying? If
anyone could comment on them for this particular job. Well, I know it
depends on the music and my music (progressive house and trance) demand
strong headphones.

Thank you in advance,

Harry

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HeadRoom does ship Int'l with a minimum of fuss. And yes, for 250 USD I
would go for the HD-580s and the DSP Pro virtualizer. The DSP Pro is nothing
more than a nice gimmick, but the HD-580s are really ot of this world. For
$199, you can't go wrong.

Note: Todd just made a post at Headwize.com stating that  Sennheiser will
put the 580s back in production. Which means it will go up in price in the
following months (the 580 is very cheap right now because it was supposed to
be discontinued).

Francisco.
 http://www.headphone.com/ProductsHeadphones/SennheiserHD250.asp
 http://www.headphone.com/ProductsHeadphones/SennheiserHD580.asp



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Re: MD: Headphones Question

2001-01-03 Thread Sh0rTy515


hey man, try www.minidisco.com   they may have them and i think they ship 
internationaly

good luck
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Re: MD: Headphones Question

2001-01-03 Thread Stainless Steel Rat


* "Magic" [EMAIL PROTECTED]  on Wed, 03 Jan 2001
| I was wandering around the net looking to buy online the Sony MDR-V900

For that kind of money (~$250US) you will do much better with Sennheiser
HD250-II or HD580 headphones.

http://www.headphone.com/ProductsHeadphones/SennheiserHD250.asp
http://www.headphone.com/ProductsHeadphones/SennheiserHD580.asp

I don't know if HeadRoom ships international, but you can always ask Todd
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Re: MD: MD question

2000-12-28 Thread J. Coon


record in stereo with a stereo mike. 
http://www.tir.com/~liteways/Mandolin.html#Microphone 

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 Hey all,
 it seems when i record a mini disc, the music only plays out of one of
 the ear phones, the left one. is there a way to make play out of both?
 
thanks,
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RE: MD: Cedric's Question

2000-11-09 Thread Peter Forest


Thanks Jim and James...

I really appreciate your kind word...

If you could visit this link

http://www.t-station.net/cgi-bin/rms/etailer/do/display_reviews.cgi?product-
sku=us_kheopsproduct-info-routine=installed

and if you want submit a review on Kheops MiniDisc.  Thank you!!

I will really appreciate this since I receive questions all the time about
this by email...

Best Regards,

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James Jarvie wrote:

 May I make another suggestion?  What about the Sony
 portable CD player with optical out?  You could make
 digital recordings from it, and not be replacing a
 unit that you otherwise are happy with.  The Sony CD
 portable with optical out goes for about USD 139.00
 here in the states.

I have, what was at the time, a top of the line portable Sony with an
optical out.  Not only is this a very convenient way to go (you can take
your two portables to a friend's house and make MDs from his collection
:) ) but this unit is the best tracking CD player that I have ever
owned.

Unfortunately like most Sony products, even though I have hardly used
it, the remote died already!

 By the way, I don't know what MD blanks go for in La
 Belle France, since the last time I was there was
 1993, but Pierre sells blanks through his on-line
 store.  His prices are excellent as is his service.


I concur.  I have bought dozens and dozens of blanks and accessories
from him.  He is very good about returns too.

Larry

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Re: MD: Cedric's Question

2000-11-09 Thread J. Coon



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Lets see if I can keep all of the URL address together

http://www.t-station.net/cgi-bin/rms/etailer/do/display_reviews.cgi?product-sku=us_kheopsproduct-info-routine=installed

if that doesn't work go here http://www.t-station.net/index.html


Peter Forest wrote:
 
 Thanks Jim and James...
 
 I really appreciate your kind word...
 
 If you could visit this link
 
 http://www.t-station.net/cgi-bin/rms/etailer/do/display_reviews.cgi?product-
 sku=us_kheopsproduct-info-routine=installed
 
 and if you want submit a review on Kheops MiniDisc.  Thank you!!
 
 I will really appreciate this since I receive questions all the time about
 this by email...
 
 Best Regards,
 
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 www.kheopsinternational.com
 
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 Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 10:37 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: MD: Cedric's Question
 
 James Jarvie wrote:
 
  May I make another suggestion?  What about the Sony
  portable CD player with optical out?  You could make
  digital recordings from it, and not be replacing a
  unit that you otherwise are happy with.  The Sony CD
  portable with optical out goes for about USD 139.00
  here in the states.
 
 I have, what was at the time, a top of the line portable Sony with an
 optical out.  Not only is this a very convenient way to go (you can take
 your two portables to a friend's house and make MDs from his collection
 :) ) but this unit is the best tracking CD player that I have ever
 owned.
 
 Unfortunately like most Sony products, even though I have hardly used
 it, the remote died already!
 
  By the way, I don't know what MD blanks go for in La
  Belle France, since the last time I was there was
  1993, but Pierre sells blanks through his on-line
  store.  His prices are excellent as is his service.
 
 
 I concur.  I have bought dozens and dozens of blanks and accessories
 from him.  He is very good about returns too.
 
 Larry
 
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Re: MD: Cedric's Question

2000-11-08 Thread las


James Jarvie wrote:

 May I make another suggestion?  What about the Sony
 portable CD player with optical out?  You could make
 digital recordings from it, and not be replacing a
 unit that you otherwise are happy with.  The Sony CD
 portable with optical out goes for about USD 139.00
 here in the states.

I have, what was at the time, a top of the line portable Sony with an
optical out.  Not only is this a very convenient way to go (you can take
your two portables to a friend's house and make MDs from his collection
:) ) but this unit is the best tracking CD player that I have ever
owned.

Unfortunately like most Sony products, even though I have hardly used
it, the remote died already!

 By the way, I don't know what MD blanks go for in La
 Belle France, since the last time I was there was
 1993, but Pierre sells blanks through his on-line
 store.  His prices are excellent as is his service.


I concur.  I have bought dozens and dozens of blanks and accessories
from him.  He is very good about returns too.

Larry

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Re: MD: Cloning question.

2000-11-05 Thread David W. Tamkin


Jim coon wrote,

| I frined sent me a disk that he was recording and as the battery was
| giving out, he replaced the battery without stopping the unit so the TOC
| could be written.  He wants me to recover the recording.  I have a Sony
| 520 deck and a SOny R30 recorder.  I have some instructions that [David]
| Tamkin sent to the list for cloning with w 520.

OK ...

| So my question is do I need to know if the disc with out hte toc is
| recorded in mono or stereo before I try to recover it?

It certainly helps; ask your friend if you can get in touch with him.  In
case he isn't reachable or he doesn't remember, I think it's best to start my
answer by taking your question literally: you do not have to know before you
*try* to recover it.  You can find out in the process of recovery and start
over if the first mode you try is wrong.  I recommend trying stereo first
because (1) it is more likely and (2) it takes less time to prepare the
source disc.

Fill a scratch disc of at least the same duration as your friend's disc with
stereo silence and clone its TOC to your friend's disc.  If it plays cor-
rectly, you're fine.  If it plays at double speed, then the data are in mono;
delete the track from the scratch disc, fill it with mono silence, and clone
again.

Possibly the deleted disc had both some stereo and some mono, in which case
the procedure becomes more complicated, and I can detail it if you need it.

Unless your friend's disc was fully recorded on, you'll find that clusters
that were never used are now listed in the TOC as being in an active track.
Even if you don't try to restore all his track marks, *do* divide off and
delete the area at the end that has never been recorded on.  You'll recognize
it when you try to play it and the disc seems to get stuck there, with the
time not advancing.  Leaving it undeleted will just confuse the owner of the
disc.

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Re: MD: Cloning question (clarification)

2000-11-05 Thread David W. Tamkin


Jim Coon (whose capital C I managed to miss shifting on this new keyboard)
asked if he needs to know whether the material is mono or stereo in advance
before he starts to recover a disc for a friend.  I answered, in part,

| It certainly helps; ask your friend if you can get in touch with him.

Er, make that, "if you can get in touch with your friend, ask him."

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Re: MD: Cloning question (clarification)

2000-11-05 Thread J. Coon


Dave, I just followed you instructions and I am listening to it  now.  I
will wait till it gets to the end and mark the un used part and delete
it.  THanks for posting such great and easy to follow instructions.  It
worked like a champ the  first time I tried it. 

"David W. Tamkin" wrote:
 
 Jim Coon (whose capital C I managed to miss shifting on this new keyboard)
 asked if he needs to know whether the material is mono or stereo in advance
 before he starts to recover a disc for a friend.  I answered, in part,
 
 | It certainly helps; ask your friend if you can get in touch with him.
 
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Re: MD: FAQ, question

2000-10-22 Thread David W. Tamkin


Josh asked,

| Is there a FAQ anywhere for this mailing list?

Yes, on the MiniDisc Community Pages at http://www.minidisc.org.

| Also, what is a good Portable Player/Recorder to get?

You'll have to compare features, availability, and price.  There's no
universal answer for everyone.  Good luck.

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Re: MD: MDLP question

2000-08-11 Thread PrinceGaz


From: "Nicholas Christ" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hello, I'm new to the list.
 I was wondering if the new MDLP records will also be able to record in
 the standard SP (74 or 80 minute) mode as well as the MDLP24 modes.
 I read the MDLP FAQ and couldn't find the answer in there (Although I
 apologize if it was there and I somehow missed it.)  Thanks.
 -Nicholas Christ
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I would say the answer has to be yes, there is no way they could hope
to make a new generation of equipment that is totally incompatible
with older units.

Actually I would expect the default setting for the new units to be SP
mode, and recording in LP2 or LP4 requires specifying in a record-mode
selection.

PrinceGaz.


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Re: MD: beginner question

2000-04-25 Thread Ralph Smeets


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Just purchased Sony MZ-R55, am recording environmental sounds. Eventually, I
 want to publish these for my friends by digitally transferring to my Mac,
 editing as necessary, and then saving the final version on a recordable CD.
 Can anyone point me to the resource or Web site that explains how said
 digital transfer can be accomplished, or am I just tilting at windmills?

I don't know for the mac, but for a PC you need:

1) a PC... (or Mac).

2) a digital audio-card. Ie, at least a audio-card with an S/PDIF compatible
   in.

3) An md-recorder/player with a digital out. Unfortunatly no portable has
   this function. So you'll need a deck

Cheers,
Ralph



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Re: MD: A question..

2000-03-31 Thread rmeeder


Date sent:  Thu, 30 Mar 2000 22:06:56 -0500
From:   "J. Coon" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:        Re: MD: A question..

 Yep, you can buy a PC with a good sound card.  G
 
A little off-topic... but anyone who knows the mac doesn't want to 
go back to a PC...

Remco
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Re: MD: A question..

2000-03-30 Thread jds


Yes, there is a device called the DATport that will
output a digital signal (spdif) from any usb connection.
The same company (sorry  ican't recall the name
right now) also makes one called the Socnicport
which is a TOSlink output...

do a search for the product names, or check out the 
MDCP equipment page.  

I haven't used either of these products so I can't 
say how the results are, but I don't recall hearing
anything bad about them on the list.

good luck
and if you find a solution
keep us posted.

-Jeffrey

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will be the day they start making vacuum cleaners. 

On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Anybody out there know if there is any way I can buy something that will give 
 my iMAC an optical out???  That little analog output just doesn't cut 
 it...any help would be greatly appreciated!!
 
 Tom
 psWOW.I had my first mp3 experience todayI heard some tunes from 
 a friend's portablethere is no way around itthey sound awful!  So 
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Re: MD: A question..

2000-03-30 Thread J. Coon


Yep, you can buy a PC with a good sound card.  G

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Anybody out there know if there is any way I can buy something that will give
 my iMAC an optical out???  That little analog output just doesn't cut
 it...any help would be greatly appreciated!!
 
 Tom
 psWOW.I had my first mp3 experience todayI heard some tunes from
 a friend's portablethere is no way around itthey sound awful!  So
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Re: MD: Cheesy Question of the Day.

2000-03-26 Thread Taky Cheung




There are a  couple of online stores selling TRV900 around that price. I am
about to buy one next month (short on cash). Check this link

http://electronics.shopper.com/cgi/crunch/ExpressSSearch2.asp?Ptable=Camcord
ersPID=1000208State=1Sub1=Recording_FormatSub2=NONESub3=NONESub4=NONE
Sub5=NONEVal1=DigitalVal2=Val3=Val4=Val5=Title1=DigitalTitle2=Title3
=Title4=Title5=ShowAllValue=AllResult=TitleAllResult=

or go to shopper.com and search for TRV900

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 Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2000 11:54 AM
 Subject: MD: Cheesy Question of the Day.


 
  Cheesy Question of the Day:
 
  Is it possible to attach a larger display screen for the titles I've
 programmed
  into my MDs?
 
  Thanks.
 
  Yours,
  Richard

 That depends on what MD you have. IF it's a Sony portable then it
certainly
 is possible - you can find details of the communications signals output to
 the remote on www.minidisc.org, but I don't know if there is a circuit to
do
 what you are asking, I would imagine not.


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Re: MD: Cheesy Question of the Day.

2000-03-26 Thread Magic


From: Richard Ian Träcy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2000 11:54 AM
Subject: MD: Cheesy Question of the Day.



 Cheesy Question of the Day:

 Is it possible to attach a larger display screen for the titles I've
programmed
 into my MDs?

 Thanks.

 Yours,
 Richard

That depends on what MD you have. IF it's a Sony portable then it certainly
is possible - you can find details of the communications signals output to
the remote on www.minidisc.org, but I don't know if there is a circuit to do
what you are asking, I would imagine not.


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RE: MD: SCMS question

2000-01-13 Thread Filip


 
  Newbie question: If I make a field recording using an 
  analog microphone,
  may I may a duplicate of that MD digitally? That is, play 
  the MD in a
  player and link digitally to a recorder.
 
 
 Yes, you can do that no problem at all. What you *cant* do is 
 then make a digital copy of that copy. If your original
 recording is on disc "A" you can digitally copy it to
 another disk, "B". You can't make a digital copy of "B"
 onto another disk "C" although you can using analogue.
 You could make a digital copy from "A" to "C".
 

I believe this is only true for copyrighted material, ie. digital source
that has copyright flag set to true (like commercial CD's). In that
case, copy-of-original is OK, copy-of-copy is forbidden. I own my MD for
two weeks, so I haven't tried this yet, but I'd expect you could make as
many digital copies as you wished from your own recordings, since the
copyright flag would not be set. Correct me if I'm wrong.


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Re: MD: SCMS question

2000-01-13 Thread J. Coon


Filip wrote:
 
  
   Newbie question: If I make a field recording using an
   analog microphone,
   may I may a duplicate of that MD digitally? That is, play
   the MD in a
   player and link digitally to a recorder.
  
 
  Yes, you can do that no problem at all. What you *cant* do is
  then make a digital copy of that copy. If your original
  recording is on disc "A" you can digitally copy it to
  another disk, "B". You can't make a digital copy of "B"
  onto another disk "C" although you can using analogue.
  You could make a digital copy from "A" to "C".
 
 
 I believe this is only true for copyrighted material, ie. digital source
 that has copyright flag set to true (like commercial CD's). In that
 case, copy-of-original is OK, copy-of-copy is forbidden. I own my MD for
 two weeks, so I haven't tried this yet, but I'd expect you could make as
 many digital copies as you wished from your own recordings, since the
 copyright flag would not be set. Correct me if I'm wrong.


Ok, we correct you, because the first statement is correct.  If you make
an anallog copy, you can make a digital copy of it, but you can't make a
digital copy of the copy.


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Re: MD: SCMS question

2000-01-11 Thread P. Grover Cleveland


Newbie question: If I make a field recording using an analog microphone,
may I may a duplicate of that MD digitally? That is, play the MD in a
player and link digitally to a recorder.

Thanks in advance.

Grover

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Re: MD: SCMS question

2000-01-11 Thread Magic


From: P. Grover Cleveland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: MD: SCMS question



 Newbie question: If I make a field recording using an analog microphone,
 may I may a duplicate of that MD digitally? That is, play the MD in a
 player and link digitally to a recorder.

 Thanks in advance.

 Grover

Yes, you can do that no problem at all. What you *cant* do is then make a
digital copy of that copy.
If your original recording is on disc "A" you can digitally copy it to
another disk, "B".
You can't make a digital copy of "B" onto another disk "C" although you can
using analogue.
You could make a digital copy from "A" to "C".

Hope this helps!


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Re: MD: A question for Macintosh users

2000-01-02 Thread P. Grover Cleveland


Given that I have a G-3 and that I'm not going to change to Windoze, I have
this question: What does it take for me to get the S/PDIF signal from the
player into the Mac so that I can edit my field recordings in Sound Edit 16?

I can and do use the line out and the audio input on the G-3 (this one is an
A?V version with a rather decent sound/video card) and the results are
acceptable. I would rather do this digitally.

Assuming that whoever eventually do a Mac version of their SPDIF - USB
device, this still leaves the question of software that will allow me to
capture the digital signal.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Iechyd da,

Grover Cleveland

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RE: MD: A question for Macintosh users

2000-01-02 Thread Moran Bentzur


Grover Cleveland wrote:
 Given that I have a G-3 and that I'm not going to change to
 Windoze, I have
 this question: What does it take for me to get the S/PDIF signal from the
 player into the Mac so that I can edit my field recordings in
 Sound Edit 16?

I have never used a Mac so I can't even start to answer your question yet I
have to point out one thing which you might have missed (others have missed
it before).
In your post you asked: "what does it take ... from my player...".
The first thing you have to check is that your "player" has a digital
output. If this "player" isn't a Minidisc deck or bookshelf (even on some of
those there is no digital output for the MD sub-component) all you have is
an analog output.
Bottom line: If you are using a portable MD player or player/recorder
(except the MZ-R1) there is no way to make a digital transfer to your
computer (any computer).

Bentz - if (reaction == "NO DUH!!") then Bentz.apologize("Grover");

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Re: MD: A question for Macintosh users

2000-01-02 Thread P. Grover Cleveland



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The player has optical and coaxial digital outputs

 From: "Moran Bentzur" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 18:50:25 +0200
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: MD: A  question for Macintosh users
 In your post you asked: "what does it take ... from my player...".
 The first thing you have to check is that your "player" has a digital
 output. If this "player" isn't a Minidisc deck or bookshelf (even on some of
 those there is no digital output for the MD sub-component) all you have is
 an analog output.
 

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Re: MD: A question for Macintosh users

2000-01-02 Thread PrinceGaz


Hi,

 Bottom line: If you are using a portable MD player or player/recorder
 (except the MZ-R1) there is no way to make a digital transfer to your
 computer (any computer).

When Sony released the MZ-1, was it the only "portable" model, thus not the
MZ-R1 branding to signify a recordable portie?

Cheers,
PrinceGaz -- "just seems loadsa guys call it the R1 instead of the MZ-1 and
that predates my entry to the minidisc world"


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Re: MD: A question for Macintosh users

2000-01-02 Thread Dan Frakes


"P. Grover Cleveland" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Given that I have a G-3 and that I'm not going to change to 
Windoze, I have this question: What does it take for me to get 
the S/PDIF signal from the player into the Mac so that I can 
edit my field recordings in Sound Edit 16?

If the player doesn't have a digital out, you're out of luck ;-)

If you have a digital out, you'll need a PCI audio card with digital 
input. Opcode makes some pro-level cards, but they are pretty expensive. 
If you don't mind waiting, Creative Labs (of SoundBlaster fame) has 
announced that they are going to be offering/supporting all of their 
sound cards for Macs. The drivers aren't available yet, but they will be 
soon.
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Re: MD: Cable question

2000-01-02 Thread Stainless Steel Rat


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|   I got a phono-phono cable to record stuff from my computer to my
| Sony minidisc player.  I plugged it into the back of my computer, in the
| same plug on my soundcard which I plug my speakers into.  My speakers play
| in stereo, but the minidisc only recorded in mono!  Did I get the wrong
| cable?

Possibly.  Look at the plugs; do they have two contacts or three?  If the
former, it is a monaural patch cord.
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Re: MD: newbie question re: MZ-R30

1999-12-30 Thread Lost_Sailor


 cc:(bcc: Steven Brooks/HOME_OFF/AGLIFE)

Before logging my comments on the MZ-R30... Am I correct in the assumption
that there was some kind of SMTP conversion on this message that resulted in
a bcc field being included visibly in the message body?
Christ, if the product I serve as point for did that we'd be out of
business... hopefully, it's either the Steven's client or someone needs to
spank their ISP for not setting the MX up correctly.
nuff said ...
 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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 Subject:  MD: newbie question re: MZ-R30





 I don't have any minidisc devices, however i am thinking of purchasing a
 used Sony MZ-R30. Is this a good unit?

 I don't have many choices, so im looking for maybe "dont buy it and save
 your money" answers, rather than "buy this or that instead" answers.

I have an R30 and I absolutely love it. I would imagine the R55 or one of
it's other decendents is even nicer, but I haven't really played with em. I
would even risk the debate and say that the difference in audio output is
remarkably close to that of my portable DAT deck (PCM-M1), considering all
the psychoimaging going on. My attorney regular goes to concerts with me and
patches optically to my deck using my md deck. And the CDs he burns, sound
only marginally different. Course the model is several years old, and I
doubt it's still in production. But if you can score a close-out for under
say $225 (which is what I bought mine for from an outfit in California),
it's a good deal. I doubt I'd ever consider buying _any_ used md portable
from anyone I didn't know, simply because they're so delicate. But just bear
in mind when shopping on ebay and places like that, if it's "catchy"
technology, the sellers want way too much even at the opening bid.
  I frequently see old TCD-D3 DATs (so obsolete, they're practically an
ashtray) go for over $400... which is rediculous considering they're
probably sporting badly worn heads. What's worse is that I routinely see the
PCM-M1 go for $650 and you can buy new ones @ Oade.com for that price.
Bottom line, if you're paying more than $250, just spend another $100
and get the R55
  Peace,
Tom

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Re: MD: Copyright question

1999-12-27 Thread J. Coon


Who's gonna ask?  If you got a copy on cassette, go for it. They are
junky things anyway.  

David Fincher wrote:
 
 With all the discussion about copyright, I have a related question that
 I'd like some illumination on.  If I have my own copy of a cassette, and
 the cassette is now defective (eaten by a player, magnetized, baked in
 the sun), is it legal for me to make a copy from a friend's cd (of the
 same album, just the cd version of it) to a minidisc?  I assume since
 I've paid the royalty when I purchased the album that it would be
 legal.  What if the tape is workable, but I just want a digital copy, so
 I borrow a friend's cd and make a copy to md?
 
 Thanks for your help.
 
 David Fincher
 
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Re: MD: Copyright question

1999-12-27 Thread Magic


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From: David Fincher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 6:35 AM
Subject: MD: Copyright question



 With all the discussion about copyright, I have a related question that
 I'd like some illumination on.  If I have my own copy of a cassette, and
 the cassette is now defective (eaten by a player, magnetized, baked in
 the sun), is it legal for me to make a copy from a friend's cd (of the
 same album, just the cd version of it) to a minidisc?  I assume since
 I've paid the royalty when I purchased the album that it would be
 legal.  What if the tape is workable, but I just want a digital copy, so
 I borrow a friend's cd and make a copy to md?

 Thanks for your help.

 David Fincher


Hi David.

Yes, this is legal in US and UK because you have bought a commercial
copy and therefore have "permission" to have other copies. You can by all
means copy your friends CD, provided you hang on to the chewed tape, as this
is your "license" for want of a better word, to own a copy.

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Re: MD: Copyright question

1999-12-27 Thread Dan Frakes


David Fincher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With all the discussion about copyright, I have a related 
question that I'd like some illumination on. If I have my own 
copy of a cassette, and the cassette is now defective (eaten by 
a player, magnetized, baked in the sun), is it legal for me to 
make a copy from a friend's cd (of the same album, just the cd 
version of it) to a minidisc? I assume since I've paid the 
royalty when I purchased the album that it would be legal. What 
if the tape is workable, but I just want a digital copy, so I 
borrow a friend's cd and make a copy to md?

Yes, this is perfectly legal. When you buy a CD, tape, LP, etc. you are 
buying a license for that particular work, not for the physical form. If 
you own the tape, you have purchased a license of that work, so copying a 
friend's CD when you already own the tape is fine.
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Re: MD: Copyright question

1999-12-27 Thread Stainless Steel Rat


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| With all the discussion about copyright, I have a related question that
| I'd like some illumination on.  If I have my own copy of a cassette, and
| the cassette is now defective (eaten by a player, magnetized, baked in
| the sun), is it legal for me to make a copy from a friend's cd (of the
| same album, just the cd version of it) to a minidisc?

There is one piece of case law that I know of.  The case was MicroSparc,
Inc. (Nibble Magazine) and a typing company the name of which I do not
recall -- it is on record if you want to dig it up.

The issue was this.  Nibble Magazine published source code for Apple ][
microcomputers.  As is required by copyright law, each issue had a license
of sorts that the original purchaser of an issue of the magazine had the
right to type the code into his machine and save it to diskette -- in other
words, specific, explicit permission to copy the work from print to bits
was given by MicroSparc, the copyright holder, to the purchaser of the
magazine.  Now, in order to make more money, Nibble also sold the programs
on diskette, separately from the magazine.  So, if you could afford the $25
per diskette per issue, you could save yourself the time of doing the
typing yourself.

What this typing company did was to buy a few copies of the magazines, hand
them to their typers to type in, and sold diskettes with the programs for
half the price MicroSparc charged, but only if buyers could prove that they
had purchased the relevant issue of the magazine (I believe it was by
sending them the cover of the issue or some such).

MicroSparc took them to court, charging copyright violation.  The typing
company countered that if you legally own a copy of an issue of Nibble
Magazine, then you may legally own copies of it made from other sources.

MicroSparc won the case.  The court ruled that each individual instance of
a copyrighted work is protected separately from every other instance of the
same work.

So, to finally answer the your question, no.

But if you are serious about the answer, ask a copyright lawyer.
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RE: MD: Newbie question re: Record times, Battery life

1999-12-17 Thread Martin Schiff


The Sharp 702 has an optional external battery pack that holds AA batteries
and extends the life of the LION battery that is in the unit and
rechargeable. The 702 is also very inexpensive as you can buy a new one for
around $160 and refurbished ones for less.  I have two of them and am very
satisfied. As long as none of your animals are playing french horn, you
shouldn't have any problems [grin].

With just the LION battery, you get about 4.5 hours of recording on a full
charge. With just two AA batteries, you get about 4 hours, and if you have
both connected you get about 8.5 hours. That should be plenty for your
requirements.

You also get the ability to adjust the recording level on the fly while you
are recording which you don't get with Sony.

I think the Sharp 722 which is a bit more money will record even longer with
the above.

-- Martin

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Re: MD: newbie question re: MZ-R30

1999-12-14 Thread Steven Brooks


Well, I've got a MZ-E40 for an excellent price (~$92 on Ebay) so I can't
complain too much... it is my first minidisc portie.  But ideally, I would
like to find a unit that doesn't skip as much, and munch both AA batteries
in 1.5 hours. I've even dropped the thing, and it still works (Thank God.)
As long as you don't mind holding it fairly still and buying batteries in
bulk, it's an alright MD portie :)

-spb


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I don't have any minidisc devices, however i am thinking of purchasing a
used Sony MZ-R30. Is this a good unit?

I don't have many choices, so im looking for maybe "dont buy it and save
your money" answers, rather than "buy this or that instead" answers.

Thanks for any advice :)

 - Roadmaster

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Re: MD: newbie question re: MZ-R30

1999-12-14 Thread PrinceGaz


From: "Steven Brooks" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Well, I've got a MZ-E40 for an excellent price (~$92 on Ebay) so I can't
 complain too much... it is my first minidisc portie.  But ideally, I would
 like to find a unit that doesn't skip as much, and munch both AA batteries
 in 1.5 hours. I've even dropped the thing, and it still works (Thank God.)
 As long as you don't mind holding it fairly still and buying batteries in
 bulk, it's an alright MD portie :)
 -spb

My old MZ-R3 manages about 1.5 - 2hrs playback on 650mAh NiCad AA
cells.  I guess using 900mAh cells would give about 2.5hrs and using
1200mAh NiMH should give 3.5hrs playback.  I must say it eats batteries
while recording, roughly twice the current drain of playback.  Since an
alkaline AA cell has about 2000mAh or a little more you may get 6 hours
playback or 3 hours recording (though the heavy drain the R3 makes
when recording will shorten the life).

Anyone who uses non-rechargables with their MD is mad.  Almost all
portable CD players have a recharge circuit for nicads.  I use the R3's
recharge circuit to charge my 650mAh nicads (2hr rate 350mA maximum
but I think it pumps them up a bit faster).  Yeah I use a bit of cardboard to
make it thinks its the official NiMH pack.

Personally I think this tendency to use "gumpack" proprietory batteries
is a total rip-off, when you can get 2AA nicads for under ukp3 (or ukp5
for 950mAh nicads).  For ukp7 you can get 2AA NiMH 1200mAh cells
so except for LiIon batteries (which need special charging circuitry or
they complain violently) I think we are being ripped off with gumpacks.

If I want long life on the move, I stick a handfull of nicad AAs in my pocket
and I can run my R3 from dawn till dusk :-)

Cheers,
PrinceGaz


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Re: MD: newbie question re: MZ-R30

1999-12-14 Thread Aivar_Grislis


Daniel Manrique:
i am thinking of purchasing a used Sony MZ-R30. Is this a good unit?
Steven Brooks:
I've got a MZ-E40 for an excellent price (~$92 on Ebay) so I can't
 complain too much... it is my first minidisc portie.  But ideally, I
would
 like to find a unit that doesn't skip as much, and munch both AA
batteries
 in 1.5 hours. I've even dropped the thing, and it still works (Thank
God.)
 As long as you don't mind holding it fairly still and buying batteries
in
 bulk, it's an alright MD portie :)
Prince Gaz:
Anyone who uses non-rechargables with their MD is mad.  Almost all
portable CD players have a recharge circuit for nicads.  I use the R3's
recharge circuit to charge my 650mAh nicads (2hr rate 350mA maximum
but I think it pumps them up a bit faster).  Yeah I use a bit of cardboard
to
make it thinks its the official NiMH pack.

From what I've heard on this list I think the MZ-R30 is a good unit.  Like
the Prince, I have an even older R3.

The E40 does have a charging circuit also.


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Re: MD: TOC question

1999-10-30 Thread Peter Wood


Hya Brain,

snipage

So, is there a problem when trying to record to an MD that was created with
a different version of ATRAC? What could be the problem here? I don't want
to have remember which disc was created on which machine when trying to edit
or record.
IIRC I remember hearing about a slight compatability between disc's
recorded on the Sony and the Sharp. Discs recorded on the Sharp work
on both, but the ones recorded on the Sony mostly only work on the
Sony unit.

It's nothing to do with ATRAC, all versions are compatible with each
other. I think it's like the old floppy disc problem, heads being
misaligned. But that's only me taking an educated guess. Don't know if
there is a fix, Eric? (ie try looking on www.minidisc.org for more
info ;).

HTH,

P.
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Re: MD: Newbie Question

1999-10-18 Thread Yann LEZY


 Plus the Wav recording must be in 16bit / 44kHz stereo.
 (or at least converted to that if the original is not).

Wrong !
Yesterday, I recorded a speech on my MD then recorded as a 22Khz 16bits
mono wav file and burnt it to an audio CD using Easy CD Creator.
I didn't do any conversion to the file.

I didn't get any warning nor error, and the CD plays perfectly.

My $0.02

Yann
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Re: MD: Newbie Question

1999-10-18 Thread Simon Gardner


 Wrong !
 Yesterday, I recorded a speech on my MD then recorded as a 22Khz 16bits
 mono wav file and burnt it to an audio CD using Easy CD Creator.
 I didn't do any conversion to the file.

You may not have done, but your writing software did...

Simon

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Re: MD: Newbie Question

1999-10-18 Thread Yann LEZY



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yup ! so the file does NOT need to be converted before burning.
The conversion is implicit.

Yann

Simon Gardner wrote:
 
  Wrong !
  Yesterday, I recorded a speech on my MD then recorded as a 22Khz 16bits
  mono wav file and burnt it to an audio CD using Easy CD Creator.
  I didn't do any conversion to the file.
 
 You may not have done, but your writing software did...
 
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Re: MD: Newbie Question

1999-10-18 Thread Ralph Smeets


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Plus the Wav recording must be in 16bit / 44kHz stereo.
  (or at least converted to that if the original is not).
 
 Wrong !
 Yesterday, I recorded a speech on my MD then recorded as a 22Khz 16bits
 mono wav file and burnt it to an audio CD using Easy CD Creator.
 I didn't do any conversion to the file.
 
 I didn't get any warning nor error, and the CD plays perfectly.
 
 My $0.02
 
 Yann

Wow... Cool down...

Let me quote from GC:
GC Plus the Wav recording must be in 16bit / 44kHz stereo.
GC (or at least converted to that if the original is not).

Let me translate it:
The wav file must be in 44k1Hz/16bit. If not it must be converted. Some
tools will do the conversion for you. This might not be visable to you.

Cheers,
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Re: MD: Newbie Question

1999-10-17 Thread Guy Churchill


 The process burns it to a cd track.  

The CDR must be recorded as an audio  CD for playback
on standard CD players.. not a data disc just with Wavs file on it.
(though it is possible to mix the two mediums on the one CDR)

Plus the Wav recording must be in 16bit / 44kHz stereo.
(or at least converted to that if the original is not).

The process is not exceedingly complex with the current crop
of software now available.   But don't be dismayed if you
stuff one or two CDR's up at first, most of us have made coasters
at some stage.  :)

Cheers   GC


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Re: MD: Newbie question recording from Minidisc to CDR

1999-10-08 Thread Ze'ev Maor


 Is it possible to do digital to digital minidisc to CDR recordings?  I
 assume to do this u need a line out on the Sony minidisc that is a TOS
 connection? Is this the case and is there a TOS line out on the Sony
 minidisc recorder.  Where does SPIDIF fall into this and what exactly are
 SPDIF and TOS, are they different?  Secondly you need a TOS/SPDIF
connection
 on the PCs soundcard (for the CDR).  As long as that is the case I presume
 these recordings can be made.  Or am I wrong and is the only output on a
 minidisc recorder analogue  As you can see I am confused any any
advice
 would be appreciated.

A. S/PDIF is the format of the audio data being transmitted (Sony/Philips
Digital Interface Format).

B. TOSlink (Toshiba Link) is a connection type for a physical medium
(optical) which may be used to transfer the above mentioned data (other
mediums include coax cables etc.)

C. What you need is a digital output from the Z90 (you'll have to check that
for yourself), if such an output exists it's probabely optical.

D. You need a soundcard with a digital input (SB Live/Value, Hoontech's ST
series etc.), and make sure the bracket on the card has the desired digital
connection (either optical or RCA(coax)). If you have the Live/Value you can
get Hoontech I/O board III for about 35$ which has both optical and RCA
input and output. (www.hoontech.com)

E. Then you record the audio stream from the MD using the sound card
DIGITALY to a standard PCM encoded file on your hard drive (.wav), after
which you're ready to burn it on a CDR in the standard CD-Audio format, thus
the whole proccess is done digitaly and the only source for audio quality
degredation is the ATRAC compression algorithm which is used to store the
audio data on the MD.

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Re: MD: Newbie question recording from Minidisc to CDR

1999-10-08 Thread Peter Brown



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Thanks very much, that makes sense.

Pete

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Subject: Re: MD: Newbie question recording from Minidisc to CDR



  Is it possible to do digital to digital minidisc to CDR recordings?  I
  assume to do this u need a line out on the Sony minidisc that is a TOS
  connection? Is this the case and is there a TOS line out on the Sony
  minidisc recorder.  Where does SPIDIF fall into this and what exactly
are
  SPDIF and TOS, are they different?  Secondly you need a TOS/SPDIF
 connection
  on the PCs soundcard (for the CDR).  As long as that is the case I
presume
  these recordings can be made.  Or am I wrong and is the only output on a
  minidisc recorder analogue  As you can see I am confused any any
 advice
  would be appreciated.

 A. S/PDIF is the format of the audio data being transmitted (Sony/Philips
 Digital Interface Format).

 B. TOSlink (Toshiba Link) is a connection type for a physical medium
 (optical) which may be used to transfer the above mentioned data (other
 mediums include coax cables etc.)

 C. What you need is a digital output from the Z90 (you'll have to check
that
 for yourself), if such an output exists it's probabely optical.

 D. You need a soundcard with a digital input (SB Live/Value, Hoontech's ST
 series etc.), and make sure the bracket on the card has the desired
digital
 connection (either optical or RCA(coax)). If you have the Live/Value you
can
 get Hoontech I/O board III for about 35$ which has both optical and RCA
 input and output. (www.hoontech.com)

 E. Then you record the audio stream from the MD using the sound card
 DIGITALY to a standard PCM encoded file on your hard drive (.wav), after
 which you're ready to burn it on a CDR in the standard CD-Audio format,
thus
 the whole proccess is done digitaly and the only source for audio quality
 degredation is the ATRAC compression algorithm which is used to store the
 audio data on the MD.

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Re: MD: Battery Question

1999-09-10 Thread Simon Gardner


 I've a Sharp 722 with a Lithium Ion battery.  After using the battery, I
 plug it in to charge.  Is this a good idea?  I remember my dad having to
use
 a battery conditioner to drain all the power from his old Motorola cell
 phone battery, but it was NiMH and fairly old.  Does recharging after a
few
 hours use cause battery memory?  advTHANXance

Lithium-Ion is the opposite to NiMH - top it up often and try *not* to drain
it all the way.

Simon


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RE: MD: Battery Question

1999-09-10 Thread Tony Antoniou


Li-Ion batteries prefer to be topped up rather than completely discharged.
Of course, they don't like being overcharged either, but that's not easily
achieved given the thought that goes into designing the built-in chargers in
today's equipment suited to these batteries.

The rule of thumb with these batteries is that you don't let them run flat.
If you've used it for a little bit, completely charge it anyway. Should your
capacity reach 50%, charge it. The idea is, Li-Ion batteries last for 300
complete charge/discharge cycles. By topping it up, you can "cheat" the
battery of its own death.

Adios,
LarZ

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Subject:MD: Battery Question


I've a Sharp 722 with a Lithium Ion battery.  After using the battery, I
plug it in to charge.  Is this a good idea?  I remember my dad having to use
a battery conditioner to drain all the power from his old Motorola cell
phone battery, but it was NiMH and fairly old.  Does recharging after a few
hours use cause battery memory?  advTHANXance

~S~

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Re: MD: MP3 question with Cool Edit

1999-08-31 Thread J. Coon



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I looked in Control Panel/ Multimedia/ audio Commpression Codecs.  The
one that I have says Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec (advanced).

I think I downloaded it from the Microsoft site under NetShow Tools. 
The files seem to play ok if I leave them as WAV files or rename them as
MP# files, however, with WAV files, the Windows Sound recorder plays
them and the other way, as MP3 files, Real Player plays them.

richard wrote:
 
 They have a .WAV header, so anything that can play wave files will play
 them, and the decocmpression is done by the windows media codecs, not your
 player app - i.e. if you use winamp, it will not be decoding the wave, just
 passing it onto windows.
 
 If you go into control panel and sounds there is a list of installed
 compression formats there, you can convert them in sound recorder.
 
 You can just rename them to .MP3 and most MP3 applications will skip over
 the header and just play the audio. Some will give a little burst of static
 at the start on these files.
 
 Keep in mind that it will probarbly have used whatever MPEG compression
 library you have installed - some are pretty crap as far as sound goes. (ie
 Xing)
 
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 I recorded some material on my SOny R30 and made an MP3 file using
 CoolEdit96.  The files that it makes are compresses, but have a WAV
 suffix.  Does anyone know if these are different than a file that has an
 MP3 suffix?
 
 
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Re: MD: MP3 question with Cool Edit

1999-08-26 Thread Colin Burchall


J. Coon wrote:

I recorded some material on my SOny R30 and made an MP3 file using
CoolEdit96.  The files that it makes are compresses, but have a WAV
suffix.  Does anyone know if these are different than a file that has an
MP3 suffix?

Yes they are different, but the difference is only in the header
information - the actual compressed audio data is the same.  I somehow
created a file like the ones you have (just using Windows Sound Recorder I
think) with the .wav extension, renamed it to .mp3 and it played perfectly
in Winamp.  I think that's only because Winamp can handle many different
file formats (including Windows .wav) and doesn't spit the dummy if the
filename extension doesn't match the file format.  Renaming a 'real' MP3 to
.wav doesn't make it play in Sound Recorder (a very dumb MS applet).

-cb

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