Re: [MBZ] OT, boot from external drive
no, I dont think the hardware is bad, I think its a software issue. Sometimes it does it, sometimes it doesnt. Who knows. OK Don wrote: If it started working fine, then suddenly went to crap, I'd start thinking bad hardware --- On 6/4/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its very strange. I turned it on and it worked fine, then all the sudden it started freaking out again with the long thin windows that display nothing. Im sure you have no clue what Im talking about, it really has to be seen to believe. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my ugly 190D
I keep it under a car cover. I messed with the sunroof the other day and its just loose and jammed. You can move it back and forth somewhat but it will only close to a certain point. Will need to be completely removed probably to fix the problem. Luckely its not a tilt roof. OK Don wrote: I'm thinking that an ugly, cheap 190D is a good candidate for a flower child paint job, complete with brush strokes -- The sunroof has been open, and it still needs to be aired out? Do you actually have it covered? On 6/3/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: uh, no Ed Booher wrote: You're wanting what $75 for it? On 6/3/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: floor panels are fine, I do not know if the odo works, it smells moldy, needs to be aired out -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CA '87 190D Was Re: [ SPAM ] Is Autocheck as good as Carfax
oh jeez Allan Streib wrote: Here's an '86 for $2,295. If you can stomach the gawdawful school-bus yellow, and oh yeah the rebuilt title. http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=223085014 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Grey market issues
not really. Zoltan Finks wrote: Does a car being a so-called grey market car present any issues to the owner or buyer in terms of registering ownership or title? Are there any other complications surrounding a grey market car? Thanks Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 116 vs 126 517.9xx engines
The only thing I can say is to take the vacuum pump off and see how its setup behind it. I would almost bet the newer one will fit just fine. Hans Neureiter wrote: If I do, I appreciate it. I looked through the EPC and could not find anything on vac. pumps??? On 6/4/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I said I will send you the air cleaner if you need it. Hans Neureiter wrote: My 126 300SD is in need of an engine transplant and I have a engine from a 116 donor car (thanks to Kaleb). There are a few minor differences I noticed. One of them is the vacuum pump. The 116 has the double piston type, the 126 the single piston. Are these pumps interchangeable? I like to keep mine since it just got rebuilt and I have no idea what the life span of the older double piston type may be. The other thing is the aircleaner. The 116 has no oildrain from the aircleaner to the pan, thus the pan does not have a hole/connection for it. I was thinking of swapping the pans, but questioning if the drain is a must. What if I plug the hole in the aircleaner? The deain on the 126 had no rubber seals for a long time and it never leaked. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a new convert to Rusty
now you need to sign him up for the list. Luther wrote: - Forwarded Message From: Jeff Fulford To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2007 3:20:10 PM Subject: [biodieselstl] Re: 1986 Mercedes 190D -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 95 E320
head gasket leaks oil, evaporator issues, self distructing wiring harness eric peterson wrote: What problems should I look for in a 95 E320?? Car is said to be well maintained with aprox 120K. Thanks in advance Eric 85 300CD 112K Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 116 vs 126 517.9xx engines
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: The only thing I can say is to take the vacuum pump off and see how its setup behind it. I would almost bet the newer one will fit just fine. Umm wasn't there an oil passage added at some point? -j.
Re: [MBZ] CA '87 190D Was Re: [ SPAM ] Is Autocheck as good as Carfax
MB never had a 201, 2.5 in 1986 in the US market. On 6/5/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oh jeez Allan Streib wrote: Here's an '86 for $2,295. If you can stomach the gawdawful school-bus yellow, and oh yeah the rebuilt title. http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=223085014 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CA '87 190D Was Re: [ SPAM ] Is Autocheck as good as Carfax
John Freer wrote: MB never had a 201, 2.5 in 1986 in the US market. The 201.126 was available in the US as a non-turbo between '86 and '89. The turbo (201.128) was ONLY available in the US in '87 and less than 1400 were imported. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] CA '87 190D Was Re: [ SPAM ] Is Autocheck as good as Carfax
Marshall Booth wrote: John Freer wrote: MB never had a 201, 2.5 in 1986 in the US market. The 201.126 was available in the US as a non-turbo between '86 and '89. The turbo (201.128) was ONLY available in the US in '87 and less than 1400 were imported. Marshall In '84-85 the 2.2 liter (201.122) was the only US delivered diesel 201. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] CA '87 190D Was Re: [ SPAM ] Is Autocheck as good as Carfax
Ops: I meant to type 85 and I thought I was posting to the thread about the banana colored 85 2.5 diesel. On 6/5/07, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Freer wrote: MB never had a 201, 2.5 in 1986 in the US market. The 201.126 was available in the US as a non-turbo between '86 and '89. The turbo (201.128) was ONLY available in the US in '87 and less than 1400 were imported. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A/C compressor failure modes
Thanks guys, it all makes sense now! The compressor is a Zexel DKV-14D, which looks from a quick Google search to be found on a number of other Japanese cars. Should be plentiful in junkyards, I guess. Anybody know if these can be rebuilt, though, or if I could maybe even replace it with ye olde stone-cold-reliable York? Yorks are hard to fit in cars that weren't intended to take them. They need a pretty beefy bracket, the lack of cylinders makes them 'throbby', and I think that can work them loose with time. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] OT: welders, again
I'll back up what Zach said about the Lincoln SP135; it's a sweet setup. I love its ease of use and quality US-built construction. I think I paid ~$300, three years ago. I paid an extra $100 for Miller, and another $100 to get the 220V/175A next larger welder. So far, so good! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] OT: I think this qualifies
It turns out the trigger was just dirty. I cleaned it up and put it all back in and it works just fine thus saving the family the price of a new lawnmower. I *think* this qualifies as a Jim Cath[e]y repair Absolutely! Anytime you repair an existing electrical item instead of replacing it is an automatic qualification... -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] OT: welders, again
The Harbor Freight TIG is probably the scratch-start DC only unit that my friend has, there is no foot pedal and no AC so you can not weld aluminum... That means it sucks? Setting aside the super-cheap stuff for a moment, I have what I would consider an entry level TIG and it set me back $1800, but it has AC with wavebalance, adjustable weld paramaters, etc, etc. It will do up to 160 amps. The TIG is way cool, I can weld my own aluminum intercooler pipes, do fine repairs on exotic metals, etc. However I want TIG for the odd exotic/small items. I just can't justify that kind of scratch for it. there are a lot of times where I wish I had a MIG as well it is much faster and easier for the day to day stuff. If you dont ever Oh yeah, you need a MIG. It's the first thing I reach for. (The Miller AC stick welder comes out for the big bad jobs, like 1/4 plate welding on the crane frame, hard surfacing, or anything I don't really care about burning holes in like the time I welded wheels on the bottom of the shop oven.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] installing new radiio in old car??
a kit but I doubt there is any point in looking for something at an audio store to fit this old car. Don't want to alter the car to attach the radio if I can help it. Can you fit a DIN sleeve to the car somehow? Then the new unit just slides into and out of it. First take a microwave oven and some tin snips... -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Grey market issues
At least in Oklahoma. On 6/5/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not really. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. -James Madison '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] OT: welders, again
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 19:05:57 -0700 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Setting aside the super-cheap stuff for a moment, I have what I would consider an entry level TIG and it set me back $1800, but it has AC with wavebalance, adjustable weld paramaters, etc, etc. It will do up to 160 amps. The TIG is way cool, I can weld my own aluminum intercooler pipes, do fine repairs on exotic metals, etc. However I want TIG for the odd exotic/small items. I just can't justify that kind of scratch for it. there are a lot of times where I wish I had a MIG as well it is much faster and easier for the day to day stuff. If you dont ever Oh yeah, you need a MIG. It's the first thing I reach for... OK, for those of us who are ignorant, what's the difference. (And I broke out my Dayton buzz-box this past weekend for welding up some 16ga galvanized steel to make a new riser for our water meter cover. I had it down to minimum (about 60 A) and wish it went still lower. Welding the galvanized to the 1/4 steel plate that covers most of the meter pit was difficult. It was the first time I had welded in 20 years. Looks like it, too, but it's not going anywhere.) Craig
Re: [MBZ] Need Help Locating Banjo Fittings!
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 08:10:31 -0400 LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thx Craig - Actually, I have a set of the ijection lines from an old 240D project, - I hadn't thought about them - I'l drag them out and check the sizes - except for the lack of a barb fitting, they might be close. Thx!! I'll take a look - had forgot I even had them. ;-) Not the injection lines, but the fuel supply and return lines for the injection pump. Those have banjo fittings and hose barbs. Craig
Re: [MBZ] OT: welders, again
You must be making welds with muscles! Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: welders, again On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 19:05:57 -0700 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Setting aside the super-cheap stuff for a moment, I have what I would consider an entry level TIG and it set me back $1800, but it has AC with wavebalance, adjustable weld paramaters, etc, etc. It will do up to 160 amps. The TIG is way cool, I can weld my own aluminum intercooler pipes, do fine repairs on exotic metals, etc. However I want TIG for the odd exotic/small items. I just can't justify that kind of scratch for it. there are a lot of times where I wish I had a MIG as well it is much faster and easier for the day to day stuff. If you dont ever Oh yeah, you need a MIG. It's the first thing I reach for... OK, for those of us who are ignorant, what's the difference. (And I broke out my Dayton buzz-box this past weekend for welding up some 16ga galvanized steel to make a new riser for our water meter cover. I had it down to minimum (about 60 A) and wish it went still lower. Welding the galvanized to the 1/4 steel plate that covers most of the meter pit was difficult. It was the first time I had welded in 20 years. Looks like it, too, but it's not going anywhere.) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] test
I am trying to post. Z
Re: [MBZ] test
I see it --- On 6/5/07, Chaykowsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to post. Z -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. -James Madison '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] test
your post make it through Z On 05/06/07, Chaykowsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to post. Z ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] test
OK. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chaykowsky Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 10:04 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] test I am trying to post. Z ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A/C compressor failure modes
Jim has aptly put it . the car gets a vibration with the York cooling . I replaced mine with a ND unit quiet efficient and vibe free cooling mak - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 7:00 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] A/C compressor failure modes Thanks guys, it all makes sense now! The compressor is a Zexel DKV-14D, which looks from a quick Google search to be found on a number of other Japanese cars. Should be plentiful in junkyards, I guess. Anybody know if these can be rebuilt, though, or if I could maybe even replace it with ye olde stone-cold-reliable York? Yorks are hard to fit in cars that weren't intended to take them. They need a pretty beefy bracket, the lack of cylinders makes them 'throbby', and I think that can work them loose with time. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.8.7/830 - Release Date: 6/3/2007 12:47 PM
[MBZ] Fwd: [Fwd: failure notice]-- HELP PLEASE!
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Re: [MBZ] Grey market
- Original Message - -- If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. -James Madison '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager Seems it's just round the corner mak ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.8.7/830 - Release Date: 6/3/2007 12:47 PM
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: [Fwd: failure notice]-- HELP PLEASE!
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Re: [MBZ] OT: welders, again
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 22:01:06 -0500 Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 19:05:57 -0700 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want TIG for the odd exotic/small items. I just can't justify that kind of scratch for it. Oh yeah, you need a MIG. It's the first thing I reach for... OK, for those of us who are ignorant, what's the difference. (And I broke out my Dayton buzz-box this past weekend for welding up some 16ga galvanized steel to make a new riser for our water meter cover. I had it down to minimum (about 60 A) and wish it went still lower. Welding the galvanized to the 1/4 steel plate that covers most of the meter pit was difficult. It was the first time I had welded in 20 years. Looks like it, too, but it's not going anywhere.) You must be making welds with muscles! Huh? Craig
Re: [MBZ] OT: welders, again
Some experienced welders call welds with a lumps welds with muscles. It's just a slang term for one of several bad welds. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06/05/07 10:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: welders, again -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 22:01:06 -0500 Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 19:05:57 -0700 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want TIG for the odd exotic/small items. I just can't justify that kind of scratch for it. Oh yeah, you need a MIG. It's the first thing I reach for... OK, for those of us who are ignorant, what's the difference. (And I broke out my Dayton buzz-box this past weekend for welding up some 16ga galvanized steel to make a new riser for our water meter cover. I had it down to minimum (about 60 A) and wish it went still lower. Welding the galvanized to the 1/4 steel plate that covers most of the meter pit was difficult. It was the first time I had welded in 20 years. Looks like it, too, but it's not going anywhere.) You must be making welds with muscles! Huh? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: welders, again
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 22:59:29 -0500 Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some experienced welders call welds with a lumps welds with muscles. It's just a slang term for one of several bad welds. Oh! I hadn't heard that term before, but it definitely fits. I made some really good beads, and some really bad ones. Running 1/8 6013 at 90 amps would punch a hole in the vertical 16ga very easily. I ended up making a lump beside the vertical 16ga galvanized with the 6013 and then changing to 3/32 7014 and minimum current to join the galvanized to the lump. Craig
Re: [MBZ] OT: welders, again
The key is a steady hand and knowing how fast to move, so says a welder who's much better than me. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06/05/07 11:27 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: welders, again -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 22:59:29 -0500 Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some experienced welders call welds with a lumps welds with muscles. It's just a slang term for one of several bad welds. Oh! I hadn't heard that term before, but it definitely fits. I made some really good beads, and some really bad ones. Running 1/8 6013 at 90 amps would punch a hole in the vertical 16ga very easily. I ended up making a lump beside the vertical 16ga galvanized with the 6013 and then changing to 3/32 7014 and minimum current to join the galvanized to the lump. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: welders, again
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 22:27:00 -0600 Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ended up making a lump beside the vertical 16ga galvanized with the 6013 and then changing to 3/32 7014 and minimum current to join the galvanized to the lump. That is, a lump made by several passes with the rod to build the bead up above the flat 1/4 plate. Question: When using a stick welder, does one need to clean the slag off the bead before one runs another bead on top of it? Putting the stick down, taking off the helmet, getting the angle grinder, grinding off the slag, putting the helmet back on, picking up the stick and finally running another bead takes awhile. Thanks, Craig
Re: [MBZ] OT: welders, again
Yes, you need to clean the weld. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06/05/07 11:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: welders, again -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 22:27:00 -0600 Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ended up making a lump beside the vertical 16ga galvanized with the 6013 and then changing to 3/32 7014 and minimum current to join the galvanized to the lump. That is, a lump made by several passes with the rod to build the bead up above the flat 1/4 plate. Question: When using a stick welder, does one need to clean the slag off the bead before one runs another bead on top of it? Putting the stick down, taking off the helmet, getting the angle grinder, grinding off the slag, putting the helmet back on, picking up the stick and finally running another bead takes awhile. Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: welders, again
Question: When using a stick welder, does one need to clean the slag off the bead before one runs another bead on top of it? Putting the As I understand it, yes. (That's one advantage of MIG: no slag.) stick down, taking off the helmet, getting the angle grinder, grinding off the slag, putting the helmet back on, picking up the stick and finally running another bead takes awhile. Chipping hammer? That's what I use. That and an auto-darkening helmet. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] OT: welders, again
OK, for those of us who are ignorant, what's the difference [TIG/MIG]. MIG is just an automated version of your basic stick welder. It feeds wire from a roll, either flux-core without shielding gas, or plain wire with shielding gas. Otherwise it's a lot like stick welding, the arc is drawn between a consumable electrode and the work. TIG uses a non-consumable tungsten electrode to draw an arc to the work. Like gas welding/brazing, you feed in filler rod. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] brake anti-squeal paste
Buy softer, and cheaper pads. The cheapest ones at NAPA work fine. Pads are a place where more expensive is NOT better. Expensive ones are hard, and designed to wear the rotors, not the pads. That is why they usually come with a lifetime warranty. Your rotors will fall off first. I have never used ANY anti squeal anything. My pads never squeal, and my rotors last a long long time. AFAIK over 400k miles on the SDL. and they are still ok. Loren At 12:59 PM 6/4/2007, you wrote: Is this anything like the sunroof lube in that it is quasi-magical and has no equivalent in the 3rd party market? I recently updated the brakes on my 300D (new calipers and pads all around, new rotors in front) but did not use the MB anti-squeal paste. Lo and behold, my brakes are now squealing quite annoyingly. Can I get something locally that will address the issue, or do I need to use the genuine MB paste? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] Grey market issues
Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Makes me glad I live in Alabama. Indiana -- no emissions check, no safety check. You pay your registration fees and you can drive it. Has its good and bad points. I occasionally see a car that absolutely should NOT be on the road. -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] Grey market issues
I had some weirdities with the title for the 230TE. It had a VIN issued by the state of MA, not the manufacturer. But, I got it done. Loren only grey mkt car now is a 126 280SEL junker. Good Euro engine and trans, if anyone is interested. At 03:51 AM 6/5/2007, you wrote: Does a car being a so-called grey market car present any issues to the owner or buyer in terms of registering ownership or title? Are there any other complications surrounding a grey market car? Thanks Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] Grey market issues
Just give Rusty the VIN, he can get anything. (as in 123.123.10.xx) At 09:07 AM 6/5/2007, you wrote: Identifying and procuring the correct parts can occasionally be interesting, but I believe they're all generally available. -- Jim Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] Grey market issues
Same here, plus many do not have insurance. But I'll still take the good with the bad. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06/06/07 12:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Grey market issues -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Makes me glad I live in Alabama. Indiana -- no emissions check, no safety check. You pay your registration fees and you can drive it. Has its good and bad points. I occasionally see a car that absolutely should NOT be on the road. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] brake anti-squeal paste
I used to subscribe to the cheapest is best theory but then I put ceramic pads on the Jeep. Now I've decided to switch everything over as I need pads. Braking is superior to even the soft, cheap pads plus brake dust disappears. I'm sure that I'm wearing the rotors faster but it's worth the trade for me. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06/06/07 12:57 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] brake anti-squeal paste -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Buy softer, and cheaper pads. The cheapest ones at NAPA work fine. Pads are a place where more expensive is NOT better. Expensive ones are hard, and designed to wear the rotors, not the pads. That is why they usually come with a lifetime warranty. Your rotors will fall off first. I have never used ANY anti squeal anything. My pads never squeal, and my rotors last a long long time. AFAIK over 400k miles on the SDL. and they are still ok. Loren At 12:59 PM 6/4/2007, you wrote: Is this anything like the sunroof lube in that it is quasi-magical and has no equivalent in the 3rd party market? I recently updated the brakes on my 300D (new calipers and pads all around, new rotors in front) but did not use the MB anti-squeal paste. Lo and behold, my brakes are now squealing quite annoyingly. Can I get something locally that will address the issue, or do I need to use the genuine MB paste? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Grey market issues
My friend at cal state LA had NO problem passing LA smog check with his Grey 6.9.It helped that he was a professor of power and Mechanics, and his lab had all the toys, including dynos. He was a true genius also. He knew every type of fuel injection system inside and out, and designed and built 1 and 2 cyl FI systems for research. Same guy that built hydrogen engines and made a hydrogen turbine engine out of an old turbo. His machining looked like a German machinist's masterpiece. Always. We will always miss Jim. Loren At 10:54 AM 6/5/2007, you wrote: On 6/5/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any other complications surrounding a grey market car? Emissions, emissions, emissions. I will never again buy a gray-market car as long as I live in an area that runs regular smog checks. Getting the 1980 280SLC I used to own registered in Oregon was a huge PITA. Part of the smog check here involves a visual check that all factory emissions equipment is present and accounted for. The DEQ drones look up your car by make and model in a big book (now computerized, I think) and compare pictures of what's supposed to be there with your car. Since they couldn't find the SLC in their book, it automatically failed. (Guilty until proven innocent!) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] Grey market issues
Why bother? A bb in the vacuum line is WAY cheaper and faster. At 05:12 PM 6/5/2007, you wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: This same visual inspection procedure also prevents me from removing the EGR from my 300D. I'll be moving to another county where the rules are different any day now, though. Seems like a solid copper EGR gasket would pass visual. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] Grey market issues
OM 60x are included in that fix also At 05:18 PM 6/5/2007, you wrote: Or a BB in the line if it is a 617! On 6/5/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: This same visual inspection procedure also prevents me from removing the EGR from my 300D. I'll be moving to another county where the rules are different any day now, though. Seems like a solid copper EGR gasket would pass visual. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] Grey market issues
Or you can use the original racer's edge, and add some bootleg hooch. At 05:50 PM 6/5/2007, you wrote: Makes me glad I live in Alabama. I can even mix leaded 110 Octane racing fuel with 93 Octane Premium for my converter free, 77 Corvette with no concerns in this state. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Freer Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 5:18 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Grey market issues Or a BB in the line if it is a 617! On 6/5/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: This same visual inspection procedure also prevents me from removing the EGR from my 300D. I'll be moving to another county where the rules are different any day now, though. Seems like a solid copper EGR gasket would pass visual. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] brake anti-squeal paste
I can't argue on that. I don't know how they work on older vehicles. My reference is contrast to the metalic pads. Most of the hard pads have some sort of metal in them. Let us know how the pads and rotors are as you rack up the miles. Loren At 01:15 AM 6/6/2007, you wrote: I used to subscribe to the cheapest is best theory but then I put ceramic pads on the Jeep. Now I've decided to switch everything over as I need pads. Braking is superior to even the soft, cheap pads plus brake dust disappears. I'm sure that I'm wearing the rotors faster but it's worth the trade for me. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06/06/07 12:57 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] brake anti-squeal paste -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Buy softer, and cheaper pads. The cheapest ones at NAPA work fine. Pads are a place where more expensive is NOT better. Expensive ones are hard, and designed to wear the rotors, not the pads. That is why they usually come with a lifetime warranty. Your rotors will fall off first. I have never used ANY anti squeal anything. My pads never squeal, and my rotors last a long long time. AFAIK over 400k miles on the SDL. and they are still ok. Loren At 12:59 PM 6/4/2007, you wrote: Is this anything like the sunroof lube in that it is quasi-magical and has no equivalent in the 3rd party market? I recently updated the brakes on my 300D (new calipers and pads all around, new rotors in front) but did not use the MB anti-squeal paste. Lo and behold, my brakes are now squealing quite annoyingly. Can I get something locally that will address the issue, or do I need to use the genuine MB paste? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] OT: welders, again
I'll add to that, TIG can do amazing things, but requires a greater degree of artistic skill and coordination to operate, MIG is darn near idiot proof. I've got the MIG, it even makes my welds look pretty :-) I used to have gas and stick weld setups, but didn't use them much . The mig setup gets used all the time. Easy to setup in a hurry for quick fixes. Hobart had one of their demonstration trucks out at the local Tractor Supply one day letting folks try them out. Those guys are worse than bunch of drug dealers. Within 3 weeks I had one. --Robert Jim Cathey wrote: OK, for those of us who are ignorant, what's the difference [TIG/MIG]. MIG is just an automated version of your basic stick welder. It feeds wire from a roll, either flux-core without shielding gas, or plain wire with shielding gas. Otherwise it's a lot like stick welding, the arc is drawn between a consumable electrode and the work. TIG uses a non-consumable tungsten electrode to draw an arc to the work. Like gas welding/brazing, you feed in filler rod. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Grey market issues
Okay, guys, here is something y'all might be interested in - I know I am! But I can't have it! Look on craigslist under Charlottesville? Virginia. It's a 190D supposed Euro with manual windows and manual sunroof, and a 2.2 5 speed. *BUT* it is in very rough shape - you would essentially be buying it to restore. The lady ran it on veggie oil and now says it has timing problems. And the trunk, she recently discovered, is filled to the brim in the spare tire well with spilled peanut oil. She claims F and R suspension problems. She claims front bumper pushed in to the point that it impedes the fan Before any of you go reading her the riot act via email, take it easy - she is really a nice lady, and nice and forthcoming with all the problems with the car. She doesn't claim to know much about these cars, she's just sort of a flower child, I think. I wish I could buy this car, but we just bought another 190D that hopefully needs much, much less work. Brian On 6/6/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or you can use the original racer's edge, and add some bootleg hooch. At 05:50 PM 6/5/2007, you wrote: Makes me glad I live in Alabama. I can even mix leaded 110 Octane racing fuel with 93 Octane Premium for my converter free, 77 Corvette with no concerns in this state. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of John Freer Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 5:18 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Grey market issues Or a BB in the line if it is a 617! On 6/5/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: This same visual inspection procedure also prevents me from removing the EGR from my 300D. I'll be moving to another county where the rules are different any day now, though. Seems like a solid copper EGR gasket would pass visual. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mid month goodies
MAN! I wish those auctions were on this side of the country..They always have such cool stuff. Always wanted a mini helicopterI'd get myself in a world of shit with one of those...;) Mike - Original Message - From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 12:39 PM Subject: [MBZ] Mid month goodies Just might be a few things for the auto collector at this auction. Doubt Kaleb will be headed here, but he could bid live online and see if he can snag some goodies. I would gladly deliver. http://www.murphyauctions.net/kenmore07jun.html 2003 CHEV 3500 12' flatbed, V8, auto, p/s, p/b, /ac 1995 ISUZU NPR tow truck, 4 cyl diesel, auto, VULCAN 881 hoist 1967 FREIGHTLINER HOLMES 600 twin line C/O wrecker, DETROIT diesel, 4/2, ps, a/b 1996 HARLEY DAVIDSON ROAD KING motorcycle, fuel injected v-twin, 5 spd 1991 HARLEY DAVIDSON Electraglide motorcycle 1979 HONDA GOLDWING motorcycle, 4 cyl, 5 spd Something for LT Don? REVOLUTION Mini 500 helicopter, ROTAX engine, 0045 hrs, s/n: 0478, w/ TRITON XT-10-101 trailer -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: I think this qualifies
Even if it doesn't it's a whole heck of a lot smarter than buying a new mower... That's the way things are supposed to be done.Don't just keep fixing the switch or jerry rig it with others.Figure out what is burning up the switch and solve the whole deal... Why can't more Americans see this? Mike - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:13 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: I think this qualifies My grandmother has an old Crapsman RER lawnmower. For the last few years the keyswitch wouldn't start the mower, it'd shut it off but not start it. One of my uncles wired up a series of different switches for starting but since the switch has to carry full voltage for starting they don't last long. So this year when yet another switch failed I had a look at the solenoid. Took it out and shook it and could hear the contacts moving around. It turns out the trigger was just dirty. I cleaned it up and put it all back in and it works just fine thus saving the family the price of a new lawnmower. I *think* this qualifies as a Jim Cathy repair -Curt - Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: welders, again
Interesting you should ask. I recently picked up a Lincoln Handy Mig. It runs off 110v, comes with shielded wire and the conversion equipment to go to gas. I got it on sale from Sears for less than $300 shipped. My Dad had loaned me a cheapie toolshow Arc welder a few months ago and the Mig is WAY easier to use. TIG should also be easy to use but is much more expensive. In retrospect I should have coughed up another $100 for a Hobart Handler. My HandyMig has 2 heat settings which so far has made it hard to weld thin stock. I'm really really good at burning holes in stuff though... -Curt Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 20:22:56 -0400 From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OT: welders, again To: mercedes@oKiEBeNz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Think this was hashed through recently, but since I was not really in the market I glossed over the thread. I have an old Wheel Horse lawn tractor. The mower deck hangs from the a lift mechanism under the tractor by a bracket that is bolted to the deck. The deck sheet metal must be slightly too thin, because over the years metal fatigue has caused the bolts to pull through the deck, taking a small section of the deck with them. The deck is otherwise sound, and the tractor is otherwise built like a tank and very reliable, so I'm thinking of trying to grind the fatigued area back to solid metal and weld in a patch. I've never done any welding, but I can foresee that having a welder could be very handy. Plus for the cost of a new deck for the mower I could probably come very close to buying a welder. So I am wondering what might be a good welder to start off with. My garage is already equipped with a 240 outlet. I've heard that TIG welders have more flexibility but are harder to learn. Would a wire-feed MIG unit be a good choice? How hard is it to learn from books/video? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 - Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jun 06 13:29:48 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=mtsqhexc1.mtsqh.com) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1Hvva7-Q6-CM for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 13:29:48 + Received: from mtsqhexc1.mtsqh.com ([24.249.104.140] helo=mtsqhexc1.mtsqh.com) by ASSP.nospam; 6 Jun 2007 13:29:47 + content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6619.12 Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 08:27:40 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [MBZ] 95 E320 Thread-Index: AceoPoIfrEW6PdwiRHez0b8WnbyZLQ== From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Assp-Delay: not delayed (whitelisted); 6 Jun 2007 13:29:47 + X-Assp-Whitelisted: Yes X-Assp-Envelope-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Assp-Intended-For: mercedes@okiebenz.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: [MBZ] 95 E320 X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 13:29:49 - What problems should I look for in a 95 E320?? Car is said to be well maintained with aprox 120K.=20 =20 I was looking at the same car, Eric, so I will report what I have learned. In 95, they had VERY EXPENSIVE a/c problems you have to replace the evaporator, they also have wiring harness going bad - also pretty expensive if you can't do it yourself. =20 =20 In 95 you won't have the corrosion problems of the later models. The 95 has all the bells and whistles and I think it is the best looking 124. =20 =20 You know what you won't have any of these problems with? A nice 1990 300SEL. :-) =20 =20 =20 Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale)=20
Re: [MBZ] OT: welders, again
--- Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That means it sucks? I dont know if it sucks, I havent used it yet. But it is definately very basic. There is a current control on the front panel so I bet you could rig a foot pedal if you did some wiring mods... I want TIG for the odd exotic/small items. I just can't justify that kind of scratch for it. Once you use it you wont regret the $$. I have seen used units for quite a bit less. Welding Aluminum is pretty cool!
[MBZ] Suspension Pump
The suspension pump on my 1991 560SEL is leaking, Rusty was able to get one of the O-rings, but not the one that is leaking. Does anyone have the part number for the second O-ring in the suspension pump? I checked and it is not listed in Mercedes parts software. Thanks Trampas
[MBZ] Wagon Suspension
I don't know much about the 124 wagon suspension. But, I have heard about some costly maintenance items on the 123 wagons. Does the 95 Wagon have the same set-up. What should I look for to determine if the rear suspension is in good shape? Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale) http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=221355344
Re: [MBZ] 95 E320
Eric, While I still love mine, there are a few issues you should be aware of before buying. Not all of these are catastrophic, but may be used to negotiate price :^) 1) Most of the later W124 chassis cars (I know starting with the M104 engine intorduced in 1993) came with a newly introduced biodegradeable wiring harness. Unfortunately, the high heat environement of the engine compartment caused the insulation to degrade prematurely. Many of these have probably been replaced by the 120K mile point, but it's always good to ask. If the current owner doesn't know if it's been replaced, assume it hasn't. It's not a particularly difficult DIY job, but is very time consuming if you're doing it for the first time. 2) Head gaskets have been known to begin to seep oil out at about the middle on the passenger side. Take a look here for old, crusty, seeping oil. If the gasket needs to be replace, might as well do a valve job while it's off. The M104 bottom end is quite robust, so with a fresh valve job, you're easily good for another 150K miles. 3) In warm southern climates, where the A/C goes through a lot of thermal cycles, the evaporators have been known to spring leaks around the seams. This doesn't sound too bad until you realize Mercedes hung the evaporator by a string and then built a car around it. I've seen quotes between 14 and 18 shop hours to replace, though I good tech who's done a few can get it done in one solid day. Not for the faint of heart to DIY. Ask the current owner about A/C issues, and be wary of any car that just needs a charge. It can be very difficult to diagnose the evap leak since you can't get to it directly. Sometimes a good leak sniffer (or even your nose if you know what PAG oil smells like) can get a whiff of refrigerant out of the vents when the blower is first started up. In other cases, you can detect refrigerant or oil coming out the evap drain under the car. Don't want to sound too discouraging as the 1995 E320 is really quite a car. Gary Thompson Georgetown, TX 1995 E320 139K miles On 6/5/07, eric peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What problems should I look for in a 95 E320?? Car is said to be well maintained with aprox 120K. Thanks in advance Eric 85 300CD 112K
Re: [MBZ] Wagon Suspension
What costly maintenance items? I have a 123 wagon and have been patiently waiting to replace the rear strut for 280,000 miles and 24 years. The air cells have been done but they weren't that bad. 1983 300TD On 6/6/07, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know much about the 124 wagon suspension. But, I have heard about some costly maintenance items on the 123 wagons. Does the 95 Wagon have the same set-up. What should I look for to determine if the rear suspension is in good shape? Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale) http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=221355344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 95 E320
A friend purchased a 1998 E320. Will he have the same AC problems? On 6/6/07, Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric, While I still love mine, there are a few issues you should be aware of before buying. Not all of these are catastrophic, but may be used to negotiate price :^) 1) Most of the later W124 chassis cars (I know starting with the M104 engine intorduced in 1993) came with a newly introduced biodegradeable wiring harness. Unfortunately, the high heat environement of the engine compartment caused the insulation to degrade prematurely. Many of these have probably been replaced by the 120K mile point, but it's always good to ask. If the current owner doesn't know if it's been replaced, assume it hasn't. It's not a particularly difficult DIY job, but is very time consuming if you're doing it for the first time. 2) Head gaskets have been known to begin to seep oil out at about the middle on the passenger side. Take a look here for old, crusty, seeping oil. If the gasket needs to be replace, might as well do a valve job while it's off. The M104 bottom end is quite robust, so with a fresh valve job, you're easily good for another 150K miles. 3) In warm southern climates, where the A/C goes through a lot of thermal cycles, the evaporators have been known to spring leaks around the seams. This doesn't sound too bad until you realize Mercedes hung the evaporator by a string and then built a car around it. I've seen quotes between 14 and 18 shop hours to replace, though I good tech who's done a few can get it done in one solid day. Not for the faint of heart to DIY. Ask the current owner about A/C issues, and be wary of any car that just needs a charge. It can be very difficult to diagnose the evap leak since you can't get to it directly. Sometimes a good leak sniffer (or even your nose if you know what PAG oil smells like) can get a whiff of refrigerant out of the vents when the blower is first started up. In other cases, you can detect refrigerant or oil coming out the evap drain under the car. Don't want to sound too discouraging as the 1995 E320 is really quite a car. Gary Thompson Georgetown, TX 1995 E320 139K miles On 6/5/07, eric peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What problems should I look for in a 95 E320?? Car is said to be well maintained with aprox 120K. Thanks in advance Eric 85 300CD 112K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mid month goodies
O Something for LT Don? REVOLUTION Mini 500 helicopter, ROTAX engine, 0045 hrs, s/n: 0478, w/ TRITON XT-10-101 trailer As in, http://www.geocities.com/chopperjoker/mini500.htm Crash reports at http://www.provide.net/~pratt1/ambuilt/helicopter.htm Frequently Asked Questions about Amateur-Built Aircraft at http://web.archive.org/web/20010202153500/www.provide.net/~pratt/ambuilt/faqhmblt.htm Craig
Re: [MBZ] Suspension Pump
Is it a vickers pump? If you are not in a big hurry, I may have one leftover form a partially used kit. I may not get to it until the last half of the month. At 07:52 AM 6/6/2007, you wrote: The suspension pump on my 1991 560SEL is leaking, Rusty was able to get one of the O-rings, but not the one that is leaking. Does anyone have the part number for the second O-ring in the suspension pump? I checked and it is not listed in Mercedes parts software. Thanks Trampas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] OT: welders, again
I dont know if it sucks, I havent used it yet. But it is definately very basic. There is a current control on the front panel so I bet you could rig a foot pedal if you did some wiring mods... So the foot pedal is just the heat potentiometer? Not something like a spark-starter or something else weird? That would be doable, there are plenty of old sewing machine foot-operated rheostats around that I'm sure could be modified to carry the right potentiometer. :-) Once you use it you wont regret the $$. I have seen used units for quite a bit less. Welding Aluminum is pretty cool! I've welded aluminum with the MIG. Most 'impressive' was the hole blown in the side of our tiller's aluminum crankcase. But it doesn't come out pretty. I also welded up the pinholes in some of my Mom's favorite old heavy aluminum pots. Those were a mess, and took a lot of grinding. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Mid month goodies
Gee, thanks Craig. Spoiled the heck out of that fantasy. Maybe a glider would be good;) Mike - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mid month goodies O Something for LT Don? REVOLUTION Mini 500 helicopter, ROTAX engine, 0045 hrs, s/n: 0478, w/ TRITON XT-10-101 trailer As in, http://www.geocities.com/chopperjoker/mini500.htm Crash reports at http://www.provide.net/~pratt1/ambuilt/helicopter.htm Frequently Asked Questions about Amateur-Built Aircraft at http://web.archive.org/web/20010202153500/www.provide.net/~pratt/ambuilt/faqhmblt.htm Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] brake anti-squeal paste
Several cogent points here: Cheapo pads that don't wear the rotors wear out super fast and don't usually stop the car nearly as well as the OEM pads. Learned that lesson 25 years ago -- stick with the OEM ones, rotor wear is normal, and they are cheap. Much cheaper than rear-ending someone because your cheapo pads overheated and quit working right. Second, if the ceramic pads (or any other for that matter) do not have the heavy anti squeal coating on the back of the backing plate, you MUST use an anti-squeal shim or they will scream. Also make positively certain that the slots in the calipers are completely clean, otherwise the pad will stick, causing both drag and squeal. Another cause of squeal is tired caliper piston seal not retracting the piston enough, allowing minor drag and hence uneven wear. Last, when installing new rotors, use some heavy sandpaper to rough them up (not the newest ones where you dont' remove the coating, though) -- most of them are turned these days, not ground, and if you don't rough up the surface, the spiral groove left by the manufacturing process will cause them to groan for quite a while, even after they wear it some. Not pleasant. Peter -Original Message- From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jun 6, 2007 1:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] brake anti-squeal paste Buy softer, and cheaper pads. The cheapest ones at NAPA work fine. Pads are a place where more expensive is NOT better. Expensive ones are hard, and designed to wear the rotors, not the pads. That is why they usually come with a lifetime warranty. Your rotors will fall off first. I have never used ANY anti squeal anything. My pads never squeal, and my rotors last a long long time. AFAIK over 400k miles on the SDL. and they are still ok. Loren At 12:59 PM 6/4/2007, you wrote: Is this anything like the sunroof lube in that it is quasi-magical and has no equivalent in the 3rd party market? I recently updated the brakes on my 300D (new calipers and pads all around, new rotors in front) but did not use the MB anti-squeal paste. Lo and behold, my brakes are now squealing quite annoyingly. Can I get something locally that will address the issue, or do I need to use the genuine MB paste? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 95 E320
I haven't heard of evaporator problems on the W210 and later models, but have no idea if they use the same aluminum/copper evaporator disaster as the late W124. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 6/6/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend purchased a 1998 E320. Will he have the same AC problems?
Re: [MBZ] Wagon Suspension
Harsh ride means $200 for spheres. leaky pump means $125 or so (last quote I heard about from PGA) for a used pump, if you can find one. If it has been piled full of newspapers and driven over rough roads, and the rear is saggin and the oil reservoir is empty, it means at least $1k for new rear struts, lines and pump, plus labor. or it needs a $3 hose. all are parts only price ranges. Loren 230TE sold new spheres 300TD, 85 sold 300TD 87 300TE 88, with new struts and lines and oil, resealed pump (advanced DIY) At 08:39 AM 6/6/2007, you wrote: I don't know much about the 124 wagon suspension. But, I have heard about some costly maintenance items on the 123 wagons. Does the 95 Wagon have the same set-up. What should I look for to determine if the rear suspension is in good shape? Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale) http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=221355344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] Wagon Suspension
To check, it must sit level, have oil in the hydraulic tank (left fender, next to the ABS system), and the rear suspension must move easily. If it is rock hard, the gas spheres are shot, you need new ones (about $90 each, plus installation and a quart of fluid). Check very closely for bad struts, though, if the suspension is hard, because failed gas chambers seriously overloads the seals on the struts, and they can blow out. Not replaceable, so you are out new struts. Crosswind sensitivity and torque steer accompanied by thumps under the back seat are bad links, just like the sedans (and I would plan on having to replace them sooner or later, they go bad). Peter
Re: [MBZ] OT: I think this qualifies
Dang... I've got Shoe Goo around, I just forget to use it. I did use some Liquid Electrical tape to patch a hole in the seat of my Montgomery Ward lawntractor. Worked great until I was using some body english to climb a hill and I snapped the seat mounts out of the seat... I didn't fall off the back of the mower, but dang near... Of course I was towing my Cub Cadet 72 at the time. -Curt Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 13:21:54 -0400 From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: I think this qualifies To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] I *think* this qualifies as a Jim Cathy repair Well there was no use of Shoo Goo -- 1983 300D 1966 230 - We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jun 06 14:51:07 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=alnrmhc14.comcast.net) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1Hvwqp-000570-De for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 14:51:07 + Received: from alnrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.225.94] helo=alnrmhc14.comcast.net) by ASSP.nospam; 6 Jun 2007 14:51:07 + Received: from aceraspire (c-68-57-102-142.hsd1.va.comcast.net[68.57.102.142]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc14) with SMTP id 20070606144604b140040m1ce; Wed, 6 Jun 2007 14:46:04 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 10:46:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Assp-Delay: delayed for 5m 1s; 6 Jun 2007 14:51:07 + X-Assp-Score: 10 (BombRe) X-Assp-Envelope-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Assp-Intended-For: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Assp-Version: 1.3.2(final.1) X-Assp-Spam: YES X-Assp-Block: NO (Spamlover) X-SMSMSE-SCL: 9 X-Assp-Spam-Reason: BombRe: 'virus found' Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: welders, again X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 14:51:07 - Hi Curt, I have the same welder but bought it at Home Depot. As far as heat settings, the 2 are frustrastingly too few but the wire feed is critical also - you must adjust it also - more than I thought needed - it made a bigger difference than I expected. Anyway, I enjoy learning with it. The biggest advance is welding technology IMHO, is the self-darkening welding hood. it makes life *much* easier. later -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: welders, again Interesting you should ask. I recently picked up a Lincoln Handy Mig. It runs off 110v, comes with shielded wire and the conversion equipment to go to gas. I got it on sale from Sears for less than $300 shipped. My Dad had loaned me a cheapie toolshow Arc welder a few months ago and the Mig is WAY easier to use. TIG should also be easy to use but is much more expensive. In retrospect I should have coughed up another $100 for a Hobart Handler. My HandyMig has 2 heat settings which so far has made it hard to weld thin stock. I'm really really good at burning holes in stuff though... -Curt Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 20:22:56 -0400 From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OT: welders, again To: mercedes@oKiEBeNz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Think this was hashed through recently, but since I was not really in the market I glossed over the thread. I have an old Wheel Horse lawn tractor. The mower deck hangs from the a lift mechanism under the tractor by a bracket that is bolted to the deck. The deck sheet metal must
Re: [MBZ] Grey market issues
Zoltan Finks wrote: Okay, guys, here is something y'all might be interested in - I know I am! But I can't have it! Look on craigslist under Charlottesville? Virginia. It's a 190D supposed Euro with manual windows and manual sunroof, and a 2.2 5 speed. *BUT* it is in very rough shape - you would essentially be buying it to restore. The lady ran it on veggie oil and now says it has timing problems. And the trunk, she recently discovered, is filled to the brim in the spare tire well with spilled peanut oil. She claims F and R suspension problems. She claims front bumper pushed in to the point that it impedes the fan Before any of you go reading her the riot act via email, take it easy - she is really a nice lady, and nice and forthcoming with all the problems with the car. She doesn't claim to know much about these cars, she's just sort of a flower child, I think. I wish I could buy this car, but we just bought another 190D that hopefully needs much, much less work. The 601.911/912 engine that was standard in all the rest of the world was a 2 liter engine. For US delivery (and nowhere else as far as I can tell) they supplied the car with a 2.2 liter 601.921 engine with the same hp (72) but about 5-6% greater torque. If it's a real gray market with crank windows (they were never available in the US, THEN THE ENGINE HAS BEEN REPLACE IF IT HAS A 2.2 IN IT. I have owned a gray market '85 190D 5 spd for 12+ years. It's a NICE car (about 6 seconds faster 0-60 than a 240D) and can deliver spectacular fuel economy both on the highway (44 mpg) and in the city (38). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] OT: I think this qualifies
Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Even if it doesn't it's a whole heck of a lot smarter than buying a new mower... Exactly why I want to learn to weld so I can repair the broken mower deck of my old Wheel Horse tractor. The thing is 25 years old but it starts up instantly, otherwise works perfectly. Why should I spend for a new mower when only one piece is broken, and is readily repairable. -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] 95 E320
Gary Thompson wrote: I haven't heard of evaporator problems on the W210 and later models, but have no idea if they use the same aluminum/copper evaporator disaster as the late W124. The defective evaporators are in ALL 124s - not just late ones, and possibly present to a lesser degree in late (1986 on) 126s. The problem doesn't appear to be present in 210 chassis cars. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] 95 E320
Donald wroteA nice 1990 300SEL. :-) Hi DOnald, I thought that car was sold a couple of times? Did *another* deal fall through? How much are you looking far anyway? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: [MBZ] 95 E320 What problems should I look for in a 95 E320?? Car is said to be well maintained with aprox 120K. I was looking at the same car, Eric, so I will report what I have learned. In 95, they had VERY EXPENSIVE a/c problems you have to replace the evaporator, they also have wiring harness going bad - also pretty expensive if you can't do it yourself. In 95 you won't have the corrosion problems of the later models. The 95 has all the bells and whistles and I think it is the best looking 124. You know what you won't have any of these problems with? A nice 1990 300SEL. :-) Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/834 - Release Date: 6/5/2007 2:38 PM
[MBZ] W124 Front Shocks
Howdy, How many miles do ya'll typically get from the original shocks? Mine look original and it passes the bounce test but lately, when we hit a bump in the road, I get an extra kick thru the steering wheel. My assumption is front shocks. Could they be going ir should I just watch out for potholes? They're probably Bilsteins which seem to last forever. BTW, I don;t see any leaks on the shock bodies. TIA - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ .
Re: [MBZ] Suspension Pump
I am not sure what a Vickers pump is, can you tell me where you got the repair kit? Thanks Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:48 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Suspension Pump Is it a vickers pump? If you are not in a big hurry, I may have one leftover form a partially used kit. I may not get to it until the last half of the month. At 07:52 AM 6/6/2007, you wrote: The suspension pump on my 1991 560SEL is leaking, Rusty was able to get one of the O-rings, but not the one that is leaking. Does anyone have the part number for the second O-ring in the suspension pump? I checked and it is not listed in Mercedes parts software. Thanks Trampas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 Front Shocks
LarryT wrote: Howdy, How many miles do ya'll typically get from the original shocks? Mine look original and it passes the bounce test but lately, when we hit a bump in the road, I get an extra kick thru the steering wheel. My assumption is front shocks. Could they be going ir should I just watch out for potholes? They're probably Bilsteins which seem to last forever. BTW, I don;t see any leaks on the shock bodies. Front shocks usually last between 100-200kmi. If they don't pass the bounce test they are not just out of spec - they are DEAD. If they have more than 100kmi on them and the car is riding a little worse, then replace them (after having someone that REALLY knows Mercedes steering look at the front end). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] W124 Front Shocks
i generally will replace shocks at about 80k miles on bilstein. i don't much like worn shocks. On 6/6/07, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LarryT wrote: Howdy, How many miles do ya'll typically get from the original shocks? Mine look original and it passes the bounce test but lately, when we hit a bump in the road, I get an extra kick thru the steering wheel. My assumption is front shocks. Could they be going ir should I just watch out for potholes? They're probably Bilsteins which seem to last forever. BTW, I don;t see any leaks on the shock bodies. Front shocks usually last between 100-200kmi. If they don't pass the bounce test they are not just out of spec - they are DEAD. If they have more than 100kmi on them and the car is riding a little worse, then replace them (after having someone that REALLY knows Mercedes steering look at the front end). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Suspension Pump
There were two pump manufacturers used. Vickers are in both of my wagons. There is a tag on the side of the pump. You will need the maker and model number of the pump to order a kit from Rusty. Tandem pump kits were about $75 18 months ago or so. A good used pump was $125 at Potomac about the same time, but they had none when i was working on the TE Changing the shaft seal is difficult. and is supposed to take special tools. Loren At 10:05 AM 6/6/2007, you wrote: I am not sure what a Vickers pump is, can you tell me where you got the repair kit? Thanks Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:48 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Suspension Pump Is it a vickers pump? If you are not in a big hurry, I may have one leftover form a partially used kit. I may not get to it until the last half of the month. At 07:52 AM 6/6/2007, you wrote: The suspension pump on my 1991 560SEL is leaking, Rusty was able to get one of the O-rings, but not the one that is leaking. Does anyone have the part number for the second O-ring in the suspension pump? I checked and it is not listed in Mercedes parts software. Thanks Trampas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
[MBZ] Vintage MB Parts
Hi Guys, One of the guys on the 911 list is building a engine using mechanical fuel injection and offered the following: And if you get the injectors from a Mercedes Benz 230 or 260 (circa 65-70) and cut them down from 19mm to 17mm to fit the holes you can get 5-10 more hp He is willing to do the modifications if he can find the original parts. I checked Rustys site but back the far his catalogue is pretty thin. Does anyone have PNs? I have the Microfische bit my reader was solder years ago. Thanks for any help you may offer. Very much appreciated! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ .
Re: [MBZ] OT: welders, again
Let me point out a safety tip - any skin exposed to light from the arc will sunburn. Same goes for Plasma Cutters (another fun toy). Wear gloves on both hands, long sleeved shirt, and long pants. Welding leathers are nice and look cool. Also keep pets and kids away. They both tend to stare at the arc - not good. You ever see the hot rod or OCC shows where some yahoo will arc weld without any eye or skin protection? You have to be brain dead to try a stunt like that. -Dave Walton On 6/6/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Curt, I have the same welder but bought it at Home Depot. As far as heat settings, the 2 are frustrastingly too few but the wire feed is critical also - you must adjust it also - more than I thought needed - it made a bigger difference than I expected. Anyway, I enjoy learning with it. The biggest advance is welding technology IMHO, is the self-darkening welding hood. it makes life *much* easier. later -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: welders, again Interesting you should ask. I recently picked up a Lincoln Handy Mig. It runs off 110v, comes with shielded wire and the conversion equipment to go to gas. I got it on sale from Sears for less than $300 shipped. My Dad had loaned me a cheapie toolshow Arc welder a few months ago and the Mig is WAY easier to use. TIG should also be easy to use but is much more expensive. In retrospect I should have coughed up another $100 for a Hobart Handler. My HandyMig has 2 heat settings which so far has made it hard to weld thin stock. I'm really really good at burning holes in stuff though... -Curt Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 20:22:56 -0400 From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OT: welders, again To: mercedes@oKiEBeNz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Think this was hashed through recently, but since I was not really in the market I glossed over the thread. I have an old Wheel Horse lawn tractor. The mower deck hangs from the a lift mechanism under the tractor by a bracket that is bolted to the deck. The deck sheet metal must be slightly too thin, because over the years metal fatigue has caused the bolts to pull through the deck, taking a small section of the deck with them. The deck is otherwise sound, and the tractor is otherwise built like a tank and very reliable, so I'm thinking of trying to grind the fatigued area back to solid metal and weld in a patch. I've never done any welding, but I can foresee that having a welder could be very handy. Plus for the cost of a new deck for the mower I could probably come very close to buying a welder. So I am wondering what might be a good welder to start off with. My garage is already equipped with a 240 outlet. I've heard that TIG welders have more flexibility but are harder to learn. Would a wire-feed MIG unit be a good choice? How hard is it to learn from books/video? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 - Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/834 - Release Date: 6/5/2007 2:38 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vintage MB Parts
If you mean a 230SL the part number is 000 078 11 23. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:13 AM Subject: [MBZ] Vintage MB Parts Hi Guys, One of the guys on the 911 list is building a engine using mechanical fuel injection and offered the following: And if you get the injectors from a Mercedes Benz 230 or 260 (circa 65-70) and cut them down from 19mm to 17mm to fit the holes you can get 5-10 more hp He is willing to do the modifications if he can find the original parts. I checked Rustys site but back the far his catalogue is pretty thin. Does anyone have PNs? I have the Microfische bit my reader was solder years ago. Thanks for any help you may offer. Very much appreciated! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: I think this qualifies
Wouldn't it be quicker to just take it to a welder and get it fixed now? If you ask around you can likely find a welder that is reasonable in his charges. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:55 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: I think this qualifies Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Even if it doesn't it's a whole heck of a lot smarter than buying a new mower... Exactly why I want to learn to weld so I can repair the broken mower deck of my old Wheel Horse tractor. The thing is 25 years old but it starts up instantly, otherwise works perfectly. Why should I spend for a new mower when only one piece is broken, and is readily repairable. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: I think this qualifies
R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wouldn't it be quicker to just take it to a welder and get it fixed now? If you ask around you can likely find a welder that is reasonable in his charges. Yeah, but I kinda am using it as an excuse to justify buying a welder. ;-) Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] Grey market issues
On 6/6/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before any of you go reading her the riot act via email, take it easy - she is really a nice lady, and nice and forthcoming with all the problems with the car. She doesn't claim to know much about these cars, she's just sort of a flower child, I think. I predict we'll be hearing a lot more of this kind of story with all the well-meaning but mechanically naive folks buying old M-Bs to run biodiesel and WVO, then finding that they don't have the mindset and/or aptitude to keep an old car running. I wish I could buy this car, but we just bought another 190D that hopefully needs much, much less work. Congrats on finding the right car! Tell us more. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC
[MBZ] Disabling EGR (was: Grey market issues)
On 6/5/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why bother? A bb in the vacuum line is WAY cheaper and faster. But doesn't work if the valve is stuck open. BTDT. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC
Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] brake anti-squeal paste
Rusty says Pagid is the OE brake and includes the anti-squeel pad on them. They work well, I just installed some 3 weeks ago and they do not squeel. They are middle of the line 's. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (271,xxx mi) needs head '83 300SD (246,645 mi) SOLD! '82 300CD (166 kmi) getting front end rebuild '82 300D (74 kmi) getting '85 donor engine-SOLD! '85 300D (280,176) parts car-sans engine Quoting Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Buy softer, and cheaper pads. The cheapest ones at NAPA work fine. Pads are a place where more expensive is NOT better. Expensive ones are hard, and designed to wear the rotors, not the pads. That is why they usually come with a lifetime warranty. Your rotors will fall off first. I have never used ANY anti squeal anything. My pads never squeal, and my rotors last a long long time. AFAIK over 400k miles on the SDL. and they are still ok. Loren
Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] brake anti-squeal paste
Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rusty says Pagid is the OE brake and includes the anti-squeel pad on them. They work well, I just installed some 3 weeks ago and they do not squeel. They are middle of the line 's. There was no paste with the pads that Rusty sent with my rebuilt calipers, unless I overlooked it. Mine did not start squeeking until about 3 months after I installed them. At first they were silent. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] Disabling EGR (was: Grey market issues)
missed the earlier part of this thread...the EGR removal kit I used was about $25 and is very slick. Nice to have that THING out of the way. Chris Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/5/07, Loren Faeth wrote: Why bother? A bb in the vacuum line is WAY cheaper and faster. But doesn't work if the valve is stuck open. BTDT. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jun 06 16:24:01 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=pmail22c2.megamailservers.com) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HvyIj-0002wf-44 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 16:24:01 + Received: from pmail22c2.megamailservers.com ([69.49.111.212] helo=pmail22c2.megamailservers.com) by ASSP.nospam; 6 Jun 2007 16:24:00 + Received: from pmail22c2.megamailservers.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmail22c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l56GNu1O009134 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 6 Jun 2007 12:23:57 -0400 Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by pmail22c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.12.2/Submit) id l56GNufM009133 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 6 Jun 2007 12:23:56 -0400 Received: from mail.usa-truck.com (mail.usa-truck.com [70.182.105.226]) by webmail.technostars.com (Webmail 2.0) with HTTP for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 11:23:56 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 11:23:56 -0500 From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Webmail 4.0 X-Assp-Delay: not delayed (whitelisted); 6 Jun 2007 16:24:01 + X-Assp-Whitelisted: Yes X-Assp-Envelope-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Assp-Intended-For: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] brake anti-squeal paste X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 16:24:01 - It's a pad, not paste. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (271,xxx mi) needs head '83 300SD (246,645 mi) SOLD! '82 300CD (166 kmi) getting front end rebuild '82 300D (74 kmi) getting '85 donor engine-SOLD! '85 300D (280,176) parts car-sans engine Quoting Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rusty says Pagid is the OE brake and includes the anti-squeel pad on them. They work well, I just installed some 3 weeks ago and they do not squeel. They are middle of the line 's. There was no paste with the pads that Rusty sent with my rebuilt calipers, unless I overlooked it. Mine did not start squeeking until about 3 months after I installed them. At first they were silent. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] Grey market issues
Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I predict we'll be hearing a lot more of this kind of story with all the well-meaning but mechanically naive folks buying old M-Bs to run biodiesel and WVO, then finding that they don't have the mindset and/or aptitude to keep an old car running. Not only keep an old car running, but keep it running on fuel that it was not designed to use. I don't really get the bio-fuel mania. There is of course some initial politically correct green appeal to the idea, but my guess is that veg. oil has less energy per volume unit than diesel #2, so you will get worse mileage, use more fuel, pollute more, etc. as well as chance screwing up your injection system. For most people, I'd bet that the amount of $$ they actually save using bio-fuel is likely to be insignificant. -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] Disabling EGR (was: Grey market issues)
yes. It needs to be done before the valve is stuck open. At 11:00 AM 6/6/2007, you wrote: On 6/5/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why bother? A bb in the vacuum line is WAY cheaper and faster. But doesn't work if the valve is stuck open. BTDT. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
[MBZ] Finally got one Lets hope its an okay 190D
Thanks for asking, Alex. We actually wound up winning that ebay auction last night - the CA 87 190D (with so many miles on it, I say cringing). The seller was incommunicado on my questions via ask the seller a question. I chalked this up to sellers being sick to death of quesions. Oh, and his not taking us seriously because we are brand new to ebay. In the photos, it looks to us like the clearcoat is peeling some - he claims ignorance. And we see one dent behind the driver front wheel - he claims ignorance. I will post pics later to get opinions. I talked to him on phone today. I will be flying out to CA to pick it up, then I will be driving it on up to our new home in WA. He says he can meet me at airport, reluctantly, if he is not preforming surgery. Question for list: He has in writing as part of his auction listing that we have 7 days to pick up car and pay him balance. But on phone he says this deadline is so big deal - he just has it since some people take a long time to pick up car. I would love to have a few extra days to get there - and not have to rush to get there by Tuesday, but could this guy technically cancel the sale because we are not paying balance and picking up car by 7 days from end of auction? Brian 83 240D 87 190D (hopeful)
Re: [MBZ] Disabling EGR (was: Grey market issues)
What are the symptoms of one that is stuck open? Levi On 6/6/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes. It needs to be done before the valve is stuck open. At 11:00 AM 6/6/2007, you wrote: On 6/5/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why bother? A bb in the vacuum line is WAY cheaper and faster. But doesn't work if the valve is stuck open. BTDT. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 VCV swap cures hard shifting
On 6/4/07, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At some point during the trip I sprung a major vacuum leak---the center air vent snapped shut and now doesn't open regardless of ACC setting, and all shifts went back to the previous state of CLUNKiness regardless of throttle position. A quick look under the hood didn't show any obvious disconnections or other open points in the circuit, so I imagine I stressed one or more of the lines and cracked it/them while manhandling things to get the old parts out and new ones in. Update: I found a couple of leaks where I expected them to be (between the vacuum pump and vacuum control valve) and corrected them. ACC works now. The new VCV and old modulator (blue flying saucer) are performing to spec---sending 17 in. of vacuum to the trans at idle. But shifts are still clunky! I haven't got under the car yet. What's at the other end of the black vacuum line from the flying saucer to the transmission? Rusty's site shows an AT Modulator Valve that looks like it has a vacuum connection on one side. Is this what I'm looking for? How do I test it? I couldn't find anything about it in the W124 FSM, but there's not much there on transmissions. If it does need to be changed, is it going to be messy? Should I drain the tranny first? Help! My brief taste of correct Mercedes transmission operation was like a drug---I want more. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC
Re: [MBZ] Disabling EGR (was: Grey market issues)
In my case, a big patch of soot on the hood pad just above it! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC On 6/6/07, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are the symptoms of one that is stuck open? Levi On 6/6/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes. It needs to be done before the valve is stuck open. At 11:00 AM 6/6/2007, you wrote: On 6/5/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why bother? A bb in the vacuum line is WAY cheaper and faster. But doesn't work if the valve is stuck open. BTDT. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Finally got one Lets hope its an okay 190D
I worked out a similar arrangement when I purchased my van on ebay. It turned out that I couldn't book a flight down to LA until about three weeks after the close of the auction, but the seller was ok holding onto the van and waiting for the balance. I'd just try to work with him. I ended up very happy with my purchase. Make sure you document the actual price you paid in writing (bill of sale), especially if it's less than blue book. That way the DOR won't ding you when it comes time to license. On 6/6/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for asking, Alex. We actually wound up winning that ebay auction last night - the CA 87 190D (with so many miles on it, I say cringing). The seller was incommunicado on my questions via ask the seller a question. I chalked this up to sellers being sick to death of quesions. Oh, and his not taking us seriously because we are brand new to ebay. In the photos, it looks to us like the clearcoat is peeling some - he claims ignorance. And we see one dent behind the driver front wheel - he claims ignorance. I will post pics later to get opinions. I talked to him on phone today. I will be flying out to CA to pick it up, then I will be driving it on up to our new home in WA. He says he can meet me at airport, reluctantly, if he is not preforming surgery. Question for list: He has in writing as part of his auction listing that we have 7 days to pick up car and pay him balance. But on phone he says this deadline is so big deal - he just has it since some people take a long time to pick up car. I would love to have a few extra days to get there - and not have to rush to get there by Tuesday, but could this guy technically cancel the sale because we are not paying balance and picking up car by 7 days from end of auction? Brian 83 240D 87 190D (hopeful) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Casey __ '87 300TD intercooler/propane/biodiesel '94 100CSQ Avant '90 90Q '89 Bluestar
Re: [MBZ] Grey market issues
Makes me glad I live in Alabama. Indiana -- no emissions check, no safety check. You pay your registration fees and you can drive it. Except in Clark, Lake and Porter Counties. I live in Porter County. Diesels are exempt. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT
Re: [MBZ] Finally got one Lets hope its an okay 190D
Ah, good idea - Bil of Sale. Instead of my attempting to post pics, I'll post the link to the auction. Let me know if you guys see clearcoat issues, and if you see the dent? behind the driver front wheel. Yes, I know it's a moot point now, but I am just very curious. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140123695393sspagename=ADME:L:RTQ:US:1 Brian On 6/6/07, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I worked out a similar arrangement when I purchased my van on ebay. It turned out that I couldn't book a flight down to LA until about three weeks after the close of the auction, but the seller was ok holding onto the van and waiting for the balance. I'd just try to work with him. I ended up very happy with my purchase. Make sure you document the actual price you paid in writing (bill of sale), especially if it's less than blue book. That way the DOR won't ding you when it comes time to license. On 6/6/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for asking, Alex. We actually wound up winning that ebay auction last night - the CA 87 190D (with so many miles on it, I say cringing). The seller was incommunicado on my questions via ask the seller a question. I chalked this up to sellers being sick to death of quesions. Oh, and his not taking us seriously because we are brand new to ebay. In the photos, it looks to us like the clearcoat is peeling some - he claims ignorance. And we see one dent behind the driver front wheel - he claims ignorance. I will post pics later to get opinions. I talked to him on phone today. I will be flying out to CA to pick it up, then I will be driving it on up to our new home in WA. He says he can meet me at airport, reluctantly, if he is not preforming surgery. Question for list: He has in writing as part of his auction listing that we have 7 days to pick up car and pay him balance. But on phone he says this deadline is so big deal - he just has it since some people take a long time to pick up car. I would love to have a few extra days to get there - and not have to rush to get there by Tuesday, but could this guy technically cancel the sale because we are not paying balance and picking up car by 7 days from end of auction? Brian 83 240D 87 190D (hopeful) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Casey __ '87 300TD intercooler/propane/biodiesel '94 100CSQ Avant '90 90Q '89 Bluestar ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: welders, again
--- Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the foot pedal is just the heat potentiometer? Not something like a spark-starter or something else weird? That would be doable, there are plenty of old sewing machine foot-operated rheostats around that I'm sure could be modified to carry the right potentiometer. :-) It is a current-limiting device. On a normal TIG you set the max current on the panel, then the foot pedal varies the current between zero and that max setting. There is also a microswitch that turns the arc and gas on/off. Shouldnt be hard to fab something I will be at my friends house tonight, if I get a chance I will try out the welder and report results as compared to my fancy unit. I can also try diddling the dial on the front panel while welding to see if it functions the same as a foot pedal. I've welded aluminum with the MIG. Most 'impressive' was the hole blown in the side of our tiller's aluminum crankcase. But it doesn't come out pretty. I also welded up the pinholes in some of my Mom's favorite old heavy aluminum pots. Those were a mess, and took a lot of grinding. You need a TIG! ;)
Re: [MBZ] Grey market issues
Yes, I love being exempt from emission testing. I am all for a clean environment, but the long lines and rude employes who like to lean on your car kinda suck. Brian On 6/6/07, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Makes me glad I live in Alabama. Indiana -- no emissions check, no safety check. You pay your registration fees and you can drive it. Except in Clark, Lake and Porter Counties. I live in Porter County. Diesels are exempt. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] The joys of emissions testing (was Grey market issues)
On 6/6/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I love being exempt from emission testing. I am all for a clean environment, but the long lines and rude employes who like to lean on your car kinda suck. Tell me about it. If I had a dollar for every brain cell I've lost breathing the exhaust of the cars in front of me in line at the DEQ... Things have gotten a little better since the majority of cars on the road now are OBD2 compliant. The DEQ drones just plug in a handheld tester and read off the fault codes---if there are any stored engine-related codes (or if your check engine light is on) you fail. Quick and easy for them (but a pain for you if the idiot light is on for no good reason, or for an expensive one that you don't want to deal with). Ironically, though, the longest I've ever waited in line there was behind a late-model Aston Martin. Apparently it should have had an OBD2 port, but nobody could find it. Not sure how the story ended---after an hour of head-scratching they shunted the Aston off somewhere to let the cars behind it through. Alex Chamberlain
Re: [MBZ] Disabling EGR (was: Grey market issues)
I must admit I, too, have not been following this thread - but - does either of my cars (83 240D, and 87 190D) have this EGR valve, and are you guys advocating simply removing it? Brian On 6/6/07, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my case, a big patch of soot on the hood pad just above it! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC On 6/6/07, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are the symptoms of one that is stuck open? Levi On 6/6/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes. It needs to be done before the valve is stuck open. At 11:00 AM 6/6/2007, you wrote: On 6/5/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why bother? A bb in the vacuum line is WAY cheaper and faster. But doesn't work if the valve is stuck open. BTDT. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com