[MBZ] C140 Coolant Issues
Changed my coolant today... Drained the radiator Drained the block Citric acid flush Drained radiator and block again Flushed with clean water twice Go to fill it back up to 16,5l capacity... Add 2 gal Mercedes antifreeze 1 bottle water wetter Expansion tank is full Ran engine to operating temp Heater on max Topped up with .25 gal clean water Expansion tank full Why am I nowhere close to getting 16,5l? Tarek ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 73 220D....What gear ratio rear diff?
I already bought one...Now i sorta wish I didn't. It's rusty POS that looks sweet. I didn't know the friggin' thing was rusted so bad up under the windshield that it's going to fall in half. So, i am going to pull the engine and trans and use them in my Suzuki rock buggy. Mike are you going to buy a 220D? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Craig!! Mike -Original Message- From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: [MBZ] 73 220DWhat gear ratio rear diff? Date: Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:34 pm Size: 617 bytes To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:02:31 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the gear ratio in the rear diff of my 73 220D with manual tranny? I don't remember for sure and my ancient Chilton's doesn't say. I remember something above 4:1 (4.11?) Also, is fourth gear a 1:1 final drive? Yes. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Muffler O-Rings
Thx Craig - Can't find where I saw the Hard V Soft o-rings (must of dreamed it) - I need the donuts for the '91 300D that go at the very end of the rear mufler - you;re right - no choice. Maybe you can help with the location of the other muffler hanger shown - perhaps that's the figure 8 you mentioned? It's p/n H8050-26058 - I;ll order one - but need to figure out where it goes ;-) I also need the donuts for the 240D but it's clear where they go - Thx for the help -- Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 10:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Muffler O-Rings On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:24:00 -0400 LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all - I was going to order some new muffler o-rings from Rusty for my 78 240D and 91 300D but one of the says I have a choice of Hard or Soft O-Rings. You're going to have to be a little more specific, Larry. According to Rusty's website, there are no muffler o-rings. For the '78 240D, there is a muffler hanger (commonly called donut), pictured at http://img.eautopartscatalog.com/live/H805025717.JPG (unfortunately, a poor picture) that's used to suspend the rear part of the exhaust system. I don't see a choice between hard and soft. For the '91 300D/2.5, there is an exhaust hanger at http://img.eautopartscatalog.com/live/H805026058AFT.JPG and an Exhaust Hanger Soft Compound Small round at http://img.eautopartscatalog.com/live/H805014328.JPG These two do not look at all like each other. In the past, I've seen a choice between plain round ones like http://img.eautopartscatalog.com/live/H805014328.JPG and ones shaped more like a figure-8 like http://img.eautopartscatalog.com/live/H805025717.JPG for W123s. The plain round ones are easier to install and the figure-8 ones keep the muffler from bouncing around as much. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Muffler O-Rings
Hi Craig - Found the Hard V soft o-rings - they are for the 78 240D PN H8050-14328 - Soft PN H8050-14875 - Hard (used on both the 78 240D the 91 300D) Thx - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 10:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Muffler O-Rings On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:24:00 -0400 LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all - I was going to order some new muffler o-rings from Rusty for my 78 240D and 91 300D but one of the says I have a choice of Hard or Soft O-Rings. You're going to have to be a little more specific, Larry. According to Rusty's website, there are no muffler o-rings. For the '78 240D, there is a muffler hanger (commonly called donut), pictured at http://img.eautopartscatalog.com/live/H805025717.JPG (unfortunately, a poor picture) that's used to suspend the rear part of the exhaust system. I don't see a choice between hard and soft. For the '91 300D/2.5, there is an exhaust hanger at http://img.eautopartscatalog.com/live/H805026058AFT.JPG and an Exhaust Hanger Soft Compound Small round at http://img.eautopartscatalog.com/live/H805014328.JPG These two do not look at all like each other. In the past, I've seen a choice between plain round ones like http://img.eautopartscatalog.com/live/H805014328.JPG and ones shaped more like a figure-8 like http://img.eautopartscatalog.com/live/H805025717.JPG for W123s. The plain round ones are easier to install and the figure-8 ones keep the muffler from bouncing around as much. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Muffler O- rings
Doughnuts, maybe? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Hitachi Hard Drive
BartPE can be intimidating for casual users. You have to load it with appropriate Network and Disk drivers and regenerate the disk image. If anyone needs a special config, I can create an ISO and let you download it. -Dave Walton On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 11:53 AM, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not use a BartPE disk? You can download the ISO for free at bootdisk.com. You can start just about anything with that Dan --- Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone wanting to try the Hirens boot CD is welcome to it. Only requirement is to send it back. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill R Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 9:37 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T Hitachi Hard Drive I am by no means among the enlightened on this stuff, but I just went through this with a 320G hard drive. I ended up taking off all the jumpers and the computer sorted it out nicely. I was having some trouble with the hard drive not working and the seller sent me a Hirens boot CD that straightened it out pretty well. I think I still am short a few gigs, but the 320g is large enough so that I don't mind. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 11:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T Hitachi Hard Drive On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:02:38 -0400 Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not a wizard at this, maybe some help out there? I bought a new Hitachi 250GB hard drive from Tiger. It came with no instructions at all. I want to use it as a slave. I installed it, WinXP found it on the first boot, or so the little pop-up said. Now it's no where in my system, I can't find it ?? I can find it in Control Panel/devices Looks good there. I'm sure I have jumpers wrong, I can find no info. Suggestions? Search on Hitachi's website for the manual on the disk. That will tell you where the jumpers need to be. Shut down the computer and boot into your BIOS screen. Look for two disks listed, one of which may be the Hitachi. If both disks show up, your jumpers are correct. Before XP will allow you to use it, you need to format it and then tell the system where to mount it. I've done it in the past, but I don't recall the steps. As I recall, the information about the steps was hard to locate. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 73 220D....What gear ratio rear diff?
It wasnt on craigs list was it? Not sure where you are but I have seen a couple of 73's on there I was interested in. Just curious if it was one of those. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I already bought one...Now i sorta wish I didn't. It's rusty POS that looks sweet. I didn't know the friggin' thing was rusted so bad up under the windshield that it's going to fall in half. So, i am going to pull the engine and trans and use them in my Suzuki rock buggy. Mike are you going to buy a 220D? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Craig!! Mike -Original Message- From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: [MBZ] 73 220DWhat gear ratio rear diff? Date: Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:34 pm Size: 617 bytes To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:02:31 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the gear ratio in the rear diff of my 73 220D with manual tranny? I don't remember for sure and my ancient Chilton's doesn't say. I remember something above 4:1 (4.11?) Also, is fourth gear a 1:1 final drive? Yes. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Air guns
Hendrik Fay wrote: Ahh more movie BS, anything bigger than a box cutter (we call them Stanley knifes) is now illegal and even for a box cutter you have to have an lawful excuse. When you say Stanley knife I think of this (in my family, we always called them carpet knives): http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=3359 When you say Box Cutter, I think of a thin handle for a single edge razor blade, with a sliding metal sheath, the whole thing is maybe 5mm thick. Can't find a pic of it on the 'net. They were cheap, you could buy one for maybe $0.25 in the 70's or you could often get a free one as advertising. I had a yellow one with Schweppes' beverages logo on it when I was a wee lad. From Wiki:In Australia, it is illegal to sell a cutting implement such as a utility knife to anyone under 16 years of age, and proof of age is often demanded of purchasers. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] C140 Coolant Issues
Changed my coolant today... Drained the radiator Drained the block Citric acid flush Drained radiator and block again Flushed with clean water twice Go to fill it back up to 16,5l capacity... Add 2 gal Mercedes antifreeze 1 bottle water wetter Expansion tank is full Ran engine to operating temp Heater on max Topped up with .25 gal clean water Expansion tank full Why am I nowhere close to getting 16,5l? Tarek ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] FW: Keeping Track of the Facts on Chrysler LLC
For those interested in where Chrysler is going. Thanks, Tom Hargrave HYPERLINK http://www.kegkits.comwww.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 7:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fw: Keeping Track of the Facts on Chrysler LLC - Forwarded by Karen J Hargrave/HNT/DCC/DCX on 06/23/2008 07:31 AM - The Office of Nancy Rae 06/20/2008 03:15 PM To Chrysler Employees and Contractors cc Subject Keeping Track of the Facts on Chrysler LLC As the industry goes through a period of great change and a slowing economy, we all face difficult questions about the status of the industry and our company. Following are a number of the leading subjects that come up in the media and in our daily conversations, as well as information you need to know and share: The State of the U.S. Auto Industry in 2008 * Our full year plan for the market in 2008 has been aggressively conservative, allowing us to be better positioned for the current slowdown. We are clearly in a challenging environment, but continue to be focused on building a profitable enterprise for the long term. * We are committed to good business practices despite the market slowdown such as reducing fleet sales (volume down more than 20% YTD) and dealer inventory (volume is down 67,000 units from a year ago). The State of Chrysler * As a private company, we are like a $60 billion startup with a real owner-operator mentality. * Despite the challenges, we are meeting or exceeding our financial targets. * According to Bob Nardelli (in The Wall Street Journal), “Cerberus nor its backers are second-guessing the deal. They are not looking back.” * According to Tim Price, Cerberus spokesman, “We are comfortable. We are long-term investors. Chrysler is ahead of its cash flow forecast by $1 billion.” * We currently have our top 300 leaders going through a comprehensive leadership development program consisting of five segments focusing on strategic thinking, operating excellence and leadership. * We are developing project-specific alliances to help bring the world’s best technology to our customers, as soon as possible. Examples range from working with Nissan on a new small car for global markets to partnering with GM, Daimler and BMW on hybrid technology. * We enacted a 5 percent cost reduction on certain nonproduction materials and services as a part of ongoing efforts to reduce our cost footprint in a highly competitive marketplace. Chrysler’s Sales in 2008 * Worldwide sales are down 14% YTD, which includes YTD increases in Canada, Mexico and International Markets. Fleet sales in the U.S. were down 40% in May and 23% for the year. * Sales are rising for new products, such as Dodge Journey (2nd best selling mid-size crossover in May), Dodge Avenger (+15% YTD), Dodge Caliber (+9% YTD), Chrysler Sebring Sedan/Convertible (+11% YTD), and Jeep Patriot/Compass (+65% YTD). * Our long-wheelbase minivans’ U.S. retail sales are up 30% YTD, and retail share is up. * In Canada, Chrysler is the #2 best selling manufacturer in the country, and up 5.5% YTD. * In Mexico, Chrysler’s sales are up 5.1% YTD. * Outside North America, Chrysler’s international sales are up 8% YTD, with markets like China and Russia becoming a larger part of our business. * Dealers have embraced Project Genesis, and we are making progress in transforming the U.S. dealer network. Through May, 58% of our dealers are tri-branded, compared to 50% a year ago. In the U.S., we now have 3,488 dealers, down from a year ago 3,684. Chrysler’s Alignment with Marketplace * Chrysler is better aligned than previously for the shift towards smaller, more fuel efficient vehicles. We also believe there is a strong and viable pickup truck market going forward. * Through May, our U.S. sales were 41% pickup trucks and traditional SUVs, and 59% cars, car-based crossovers, compact vehicles and minivans. (Industry is at 33%/67% ratio) * Chrysler has six vehicles that achieve 28 mpg on the highway: Dodge Caliber, Dodge Avenger, Chrysler Sebring, Chrysler Sebring Convertible, Jeep Patriot and Jeep Compass. Chrysler’s Launch Lineup for 2008 These new vehicles have competitive advantages and are well-suited for today’s marketplace: * Dodge Journey -- A crossover with class–leading (25 mpg) with a 4-cylinder engine. * Chrysler Aspen/Dodge Durango Hybrids – Full-size SUVs offering up to 40% improved fuel economy in the city at a price thousands of dollars less than the compeition. * 2009 Dodge Ram –- There is no better way to fight truck buyer malaise than with our best truck lineup ever boasting breakthrough new features. The new Dodge Ram lineup will also soon add optional light-duty diesel and hybrid powertrain options. * Dodge
Re: [MBZ] C140 Coolant Issues
Why am I nowhere close to getting 16,5l? Because you didn't take every part out of the car and dump it out over a bucket? That number is probably the dry system capacity. Hard to replicate outside of the factory. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More government waste
How are you going to track what I spend if I pay in cash? I dropped about $40 yesterday at the local farm store on projects. Haven't you ever made a purchase in a sales-tax collecting state? (Most of them, that is.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another reason to stay home
Peter Frederick wrote: Government is NOT evil, it's what makes the difference between civilization and plain chaos. Government is a necessary evil. The more it sticks its nose where it is not necessary for it to be involved, the more evil it becomes. The problem is coming to an agreement over just what is a necessary gov't function. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D ac
Measure between wire and compressor case. I am not sure about the 190D but some compressors use case as ground and only one wire for clutch. Some compressors have a pressure switch for other wire or a sensor which detects if compressor is turning. Of the three wires on my 190D compressor, one is to the clutch (returning via case ground), the other two are its tachometer. All vitally important for the system as designed. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy
I'd love to see it, Wilton. This operation is one of the things on my long to-do list. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 6/22/08, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody want me to writeup a summary of my operation - not necessarily detailed step-by-step procedures, but sticking points/solutions, tips, etc? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another reason to stay home
Government is a necessary evil. The more it sticks its nose where it is not necessary for it to be involved, the more evil it becomes. The problem is coming to an agreement over just what is a necessary gov't function. If more people would actually think about the fact that any government collects _all_ of the money required to do its business at gunpoint then this controversy would quiet down a lot. If any proposed function is _not_ worth the real threat of bodily injury or death to support then it should _not_ be a function of government. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Oooooo. 300TD Euro with 4spd manual trans on ebay.
OoOOooOOOo http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemviewitem=item=140243114401 Not to shabby looking. Just needs some touch up paint and a good wax. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Make your car look like one from cars
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1151725 Wish I had those mad Photoshop skillz John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another reason to stay home
Mitch wrote: Government is a necessary evil. The more it sticks its nose where it is not necessary for it to be involved, the more evil it becomes. The problem is coming to an agreement over just what is a necessary gov't function. I think it is time for some wisdom from someone who has offered many thoughts on government: 'Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.' 'The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a government program.'- 'The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'- I bet some of the more politically astute members of this list will be able to discern the author. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another reason to stay home
Donald Snook wrote: 'Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.' I don't know if it was original to him, but Ronald Reagan said that. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another reason to stay home
Mitch Haley wrote: Donald Snook wrote: 'Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.' I don't know if it was original to him, but Ronald Reagan said that. I forgot to add, Mr Reagan preferred outright theft of private property, aka forfeiture, to taxation. http://www.lewrockwell.com/anderson/anderson9.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Torque Wrench Question
I'm changing the pinion seal on my Supercrew. The manual says to use a torque wrench and check to see how much torque it takes to turn the flange after supporting on jack stands and removal of the rear wheels and the drive shaft. It also says to count the threads exposed. Then it says to remove the nut etc and replace the seal. It then says to re-install the flange and nut and tighten to the number of threads, check the torque to turn and tighten in increments until there is about 5 inch pounds more drag than previous to account for the new seal. Sounds easy until you try to do it. It takes very little effort to turn the flange and the result is that none of the torque wrenches that I have will do. I made some calls this morning and determined that any sort of low torque wrench or driver is very expensive. Not worthwhile for something I will seldom use. So, the question is whether anyone has any good ideas as to how else one might test and reset to similar torque value. I know that the garages just crank it on and don't worry about it and that is what I will do if need be. I can just tighten to the a5 exposed threads and will be pretty close. However, I would do it the right way if possible. One thing I believe I have seen is the use of a spring scale to test the pre-load on front wheel bearings. I believe the manual for our old Toyota 4Runner suggests that as the proper manner to test for preload. That might be possible but I suspect I would need a fairly light spring scale as it really takes very little effort to turn the flange. I suppose another idea might be a lever bolted to the flange and hanging weights on it to see what weight is required to make it turn. Anyone got better ideas? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 190D
I spotted a 190D over the weekend - not sure what year it is but I believe its been on the used car lot for a year of so - along with most of their other W126 and W116 diesel sedans. There's also a W140 Diesel but they were not open so I did not find the history of each - but the paint on all was badly oxidized. So, what kind of fuel mileage is a late 80s 190D with AT likely to get - assuming the engine is in typical condition? I've heard ya'll mention amazing MPGs for 190ds with Manual trannies - Also what typical problems areas are there in the 190D? Thx Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D ac
ahhh, ok, I see what I did wrong then. Jim Cathey wrote: Measure between wire and compressor case. I am not sure about the 190D but some compressors use case as ground and only one wire for clutch. Some compressors have a pressure switch for other wire or a sensor which detects if compressor is turning. Of the three wires on my 190D compressor, one is to the clutch (returning via case ground), the other two are its tachometer. All vitally important for the system as designed. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 87 F250
What is the HP on the Frod 7.3 or whatever engine is in the 87. Any problems with this engine or are they reliable? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D
LarryT wrote: So, what kind of fuel mileage is a late 80s 190D with AT likely to get - 86-up, you're talking 2.5 5cyl. I doubt it will be significantly different from a 90-93 300D 2.5T, it might even be worse due to lower gearing. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Torque Wrench Question
YOur right, an inch pound torque wrench that measures less that 15 in/lbs is very expensive. NOt a common thing, as torque wreches are calibrated as a function of their highest reading. One would wonder how they made the first one ? I'd reassemble to proper torque and ignore the rest. What would you do if the 5 in.lbs was 7 in.lbs? How about 3 in/lbs? In either case they'd be off by about 50%. Leave it be Pete -- Original message -- From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm changing the pinion seal on my Supercrew. The manual says to use a torque wrench and check to see how much torque it takes to turn the flange after supporting on jack stands and removal of the rear wheels and the drive shaft. It also says to count the threads exposed. Then it says to remove the nut etc and replace the seal. It then says to re-install the flange and nut and tighten to the number of threads, check the torque to turn and tighten in increments until there is about 5 inch pounds more drag than previous to account for the new seal. Sounds easy until you try to do it. It takes very little effort to turn the flange and the result is that none of the torque wrenches that I have will do. I made some calls this morning and determined that any sort of low torque wrench or driver is very expensive. Not worthwhile for something I will seldom use. So, the question is whether anyone has any good ideas as to how else one might test and reset to similar torque value. I know that the garages just crank it on and don't worry about it and that is what I will do if need be. I can just tighten to the a5 exposed threads and will be pretty close. However, I would do it the right way if possible. One thing I believe I have seen is the use of a spring scale to test the pre-load on front wheel bearings. I believe the manual for our old Toyota 4Runner suggests that as the proper manner to test for preload. That might be possible but I suspect I would need a fairly light spring scale as it really takes very little effort to turn the flange. I suppose another idea might be a lever bolted to the flange and hanging weights on it to see what weight is required to make it turn. Anyone got better ideas? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 F250
My 95 has been very good, not sure of power but it pulls me 11,000 5th wheel with little effort. It has 200Kmi. Trouble: Cooling system must be kept at correct Ph or you will junk the engine with cavitation. Wiring for GPlugs and injectors go under valve covers, last about 150Kmi, very expensive to change. Mine was $1800 at a very trusted Indy. E40D tranny need o'haul at 150Kmi. I had a Ford warranted (3yr 75Kmi) installed by same indy, $1500 + $800 labor. Pete -- Original message -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is the HP on the Frod 7.3 or whatever engine is in the 87. Any problems with this engine or are they reliable? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 F250
Yike, '87 is not a powerstroke, sorry for bad info. The 87 is an international, mechanical injection, soft on power, long on life. Pete -- Original message -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is the HP on the Frod 7.3 or whatever engine is in the 87. Any problems with this engine or are they reliable? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 F250
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What is the HP on the Frod 7.3 or whatever engine is in the 87. Any problems with this engine or are they reliable? Reliable but thirsty. I think in 1987 it was still non turbo IDI 6.9. Thirsty might not be accurate, the one I'm familiar with was a dually with 3sp auto and 67mph top speed. Running it against the governor, you might achieve 10-11mpg and it was noisy as heck. If it had 3.x final drive and a clutch, it probably would have done much better. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Torque Wrench Question
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 10:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: YOur right, an inch pound torque wrench that measures less that 15 in/lbs is very expensive. NOt a common thing, as torque wreches are calibrated as a function of their highest reading. http://www.wihatools.com/200seri/285vario_s.htm You're going to need it if you ever take off the A/T pan anyway... Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo, '86 300E, etc. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] FW: Keeping Track of the Facts on Chrysler LLC
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 5:52 AM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those interested in where Chrysler is going. Interesting stuff. Thanks, Tom. Of course it's mostly straight from the PR department, and they would paint the same rosy picture if the company were (again) on the verge of bankruptcy. On the other hand, (Mercedes content!) the merger with Daimler-Benz was great for Chrysler technology-wise, IMHO, even if it turned out to be a bad move for D-B. I just drove an '07 Charger. The last Chrysler product I drove was a rental '04 Intrepid and this was light-years beyond. The LX platform cars seem to me the closest you can come to going back in time and getting a brand new Mercedes from the era most of us like best---the '80s and '90s. Really nice car. The big steering wheel and the controls were just like my 124s! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al., '86 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] C140 Coolant Issues
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 12:13 AM, Tarek Elshenawy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Changed my coolant today... What's a banned_misfit? People who were banned from banned? I wouldn't think anybody would be on THAT list except maybe Hursty. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Torque Wrench Question
As I said, the wrench (#28502) you would need to measure this job would be 5-10 in/lbs. It cost $102! What were you going to tighten that was less that 10 but more than 5 In Pounds? Pete -- Original message -- From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 10:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: YOur right, an inch pound torque wrench that measures less that 15 in/lbs is very expensive. NOt a common thing, as torque wrenches are calibrated as a function of their highest reading. http://www.wihatools.com/200seri/285vario_s.htm You're going to need it if you ever take off the A/T pan anyway... Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo, '86 300E, etc. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 F250
I thought 86 was the last year of the 6.9? Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What is the HP on the Frod 7.3 or whatever engine is in the 87. Any problems with this engine or are they reliable? Reliable but thirsty. I think in 1987 it was still non turbo IDI 6.9. Thirsty might not be accurate, the one I'm familiar with was a dually with 3sp auto and 67mph top speed. Running it against the governor, you might achieve 10-11mpg and it was noisy as heck. If it had 3.x final drive and a clutch, it probably would have done much better. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Iowa flooding
The below is so very true. The self reliance shown by people of the mid-west stands so far apart from the 'people' in N.O. that were in the exact same situation. I say again, THE EXACT SAME SITUATION!!! Also, there was / is zero looting. I have pretty much given up hope for the 'victims' of that culture. Welfare has reduced them to what they are today. Sad, very, very sad... Something to think about. Where are all of the Hollywood celebrities holding telethons asking for help in restoring Iowa and helping the folks affected by the floods? Where is all the media asking the tough questions about why the federal government hasn't solved the problem? Asking where the FEMA trucks (and trailers) are? Why isn't the Federal Government relocating Iowa people to free hotels in Chicago? When will Spike Lee say that the Federal Government blew up the levees that failed in Des Moines? Where are Sean Penn and the Dixie Chicks? Where are all the looters stealing high-end tennis shoes and big screen television sets? When will we hear Governor Chet Culver say that he wants to rebuild a 'vanilla' Iowa, because that's the way God wants it? Where is the hysterical 24/7 media coverage complete with reports of cannibalism? Where are the people declaring that George Bush hates white, rural people? How come in 2 weeks, you will never hear about the Iowa flooding ever again? ** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Torque Wrench Question
Talked to a friend who used to be a mechanic before he went off to run a restaurant and then go into construction in his semi-retirement. He says run the nut down until I just start to feel it is making contact and then tighten it just a little bit more. Don't want to put too much preload on the bearings for fear of making them overheat and cause more trouble. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Iowa flooding
'Cause Iowa just aint the big easy. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 12:50 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Iowa flooding The below is so very true. The self reliance shown by people of the mid-west stands so far apart from the 'people' in N.O. that were in the exact same situation. I say again, THE EXACT SAME SITUATION!!! Also, there was / is zero looting. I have pretty much given up hope for the 'victims' of that culture. Welfare has reduced them to what they are today. Sad, very, very sad... Something to think about. Where are all of the Hollywood celebrities holding telethons asking for help in restoring Iowa and helping the folks affected by the floods? Where is all the media asking the tough questions about why the federal government hasn't solved the problem? Asking where the FEMA trucks (and trailers) are? Why isn't the Federal Government relocating Iowa people to free hotels in Chicago? When will Spike Lee say that the Federal Government blew up the levees that failed in Des Moines? Where are Sean Penn and the Dixie Chicks? Where are all the looters stealing high-end tennis shoes and big screen television sets? When will we hear Governor Chet Culver say that he wants to rebuild a 'vanilla' Iowa, because that's the way God wants it? Where is the hysterical 24/7 media coverage complete with reports of cannibalism? Where are the people declaring that George Bush hates white, rural people? How come in 2 weeks, you will never hear about the Iowa flooding ever again? ** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] old favorites
..Donald Snook wrote: 'Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.' I don't know if it was original to him, but Ronald Reagan said that... This is a variation of an old favorite. During my Military period it went: If it moves, salute it. If it doesn't move, pick it up. If you can't pick it up, paint it. I painted a lot of rocks white during my training period. RLE ** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 F250
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I thought 86 was the last year of the 6.9? I'm not sure. I think the 6.9 was about 165hp, and the NA 7.3 may have been more like 180. At any rate, an engine in desperate need of an overdrive if you're putting $5 fuel in it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Another Carfax request
VIN is 2B3KA43GX7H836248 I can't get used to VINs starting with numbers. It's not exactly intuitive that 2 means Canada the way J does Japan. Anyway, should be an '07 Dodge Charger. Dealer says it's a program car. I wonder, is it really, or just a retired rental with unusually low miles? (8K on an '07?) Thanks Kaleb! (or whoever) Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Iowa flooding
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where are all the looters stealing high-end tennis shoes and big screen television sets? They're all busy eating donuts in police department break rooms in N.O. You don't expect them to drop their donuts and drive 1,000 miles just to steal more stuff, do you? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another reason to stay home
I forgot to add, Mr Reagan preferred outright theft of private property, aka forfeiture, to taxation. http://www.lewrockwell.com/anderson/anderson9.html; That is a dumb argument, Mitch. Because the congress passed drug money seizure laws and most other states followed you blame President Reagan? How about the 1993 Bombing of the World Trade Center? Clinton was president. He was cutting defense spending dramatically and cutting funding to CIA and counter terrorism plans, so that Osama bin Laden was not caught, captured or killed. So, here is a response to your statement that has as much credibility behind it: I forgot to add, Mr. Clinton preferred terrorism, aka killing Americans in the WTC on Sept 11, 2001, to actually funding the military and counter terrorists branches of the CIA. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 124 evapectomy
'Just found the little spring clip I thought I had lost several days ago on the carpet/rug!! Some may remember that I was trying to press one of the little spring clips in place on the outside of my evap box when my thumb slipped, and the clip flew; 'thought I heard it land on the rug behind me. 'Couldn't find it; used a ziptie in its place. 'Was getting in the car 'bout an hour ago and reached down to fold my walker and put it in the back seat. There on the bottom of the cargo area (canvas bag) of my walker was the clip!! Mystery solved! What I thought was sound of clip hitting the rug was the clip hitting the canvas. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another reason to stay home
Donald Snook wrote: I forgot to add, Mr. Clinton preferred terrorism, aka killing Americans in the WTC on Sept 11, 2001, to actually funding the military and counter terrorists branches of the CIA. The asset theft ring known as the DEA really got going in the Reagan era, but Clinton expanded it quite a bit. If you think any of the Repugnant party presidents of the last 30 years could have prevented those plane crashes, you're nuts enough to support the so-called Patriot Act. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another reason to stay home
Donald Snook wrote: That is a dumb argument, Mitch. Because the congress passed drug money seizure laws and most other states followed you blame President Reagan? How about the 1993 Bombing of the World Trade Center? Clinton was president. He was cutting defense spending dramatically and cutting funding to CIA and counter terrorism plans, so that Osama bin Laden was not caught, captured or killed. So, here is a response to your statement that has as much credibility behind it: I forgot to add, Mr. Clinton preferred terrorism, aka killing Americans in the WTC on Sept 11, 2001, to actually funding the military and counter terrorists branches of the CIA. I just happened to skim the last paragraph first, and I'm glad I read the first two before I fired off a reply!! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Something about light bulbs - NO MB
And something's is wrong! Chuck Phoenix AZ just CLICK ON LINE BELOW ...You WILL Love It and get a little PO'd ... http://youtube.com/watch?v=e-LOtKIIKcg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd love to see it, Wilton. This operation is one of the things on my long to-do list. Ditto! The more info on this daunting job, the better. Alex Chamberlain passel of 124s ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '87 300D monovalve weirdness
I've been suspecting for a while now that my W124 300D's monovalve is stuck partway open, with a couple of different symptoms pointing to the same thing (A/C not blowing as cool as it should although the rest of the system checks out OK, and uneven heat at idle and on acceleration from a stop). I put a pair of hose pliers on the hose from the monovalve to the heater core to get some cool air from the A/C since it was a hot day. The pliers are as tight as can be, but I'm still getting lukewarm air, and when I turn the temp control knob up to full heat I get HOT air! What the heck is going on? Is there any other way for warm coolant to get into the heater core? Air direction problem (i.e. vacuum flaps not doing their job)? I thought by pinching the hose on either side of the monovalve I should be doing what the valve is designed to do when full cooling is called for, i.e. let the air cooled by passing through the evaporator stay cool (and thereby also there shouldn't be any way to get hot air either). Somebody enlighten me. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300D monovalve weirdness
Alex Chamberlain wrote: I thought by pinching the hose on either side of the monovalve I should be doing what the valve is designed to do when full cooling is called for, i.e. let the air cooled by passing through the evaporator stay cool (and thereby also there shouldn't be any way to get hot air either). Somebody enlighten me. Doesn't the monovalve have three ports? ie, a bypass.. Maybe you clamped the wrong hose? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy
So. . . . . you going to pull it apart again and install the clip so it will be perfect??? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 1:32 PM To: mercedes Subject: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy 'Just found the little spring clip I thought I had lost several days ago on the carpet/rug!! Some may remember that I was trying to press one of the little spring clips in place on the outside of my evap box when my thumb slipped, and the clip flew; 'thought I heard it land on the rug behind me. 'Couldn't find it; used a ziptie in its place. 'Was getting in the car 'bout an hour ago and reached down to fold my walker and put it in the back seat. There on the bottom of the cargo area (canvas bag) of my walker was the clip!! Mystery solved! What I thought was sound of clip hitting the rug was the clip hitting the canvas. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Something about light bulbs - NO MB
Thats hilarious and sad. Chuck Landenberger wrote: And something's is wrong! Chuck Phoenix AZ just CLICK ON LINE BELOW ...You WILL Love It and get a little PO'd ... http://youtube.com/watch?v=e-LOtKIIKcg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Carfax request
All dealers should be providing carfax reports at no charge. If they don't, I walk knowing they are hiding something and let them know that. John On 6/23/08, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VIN is 2B3KA43GX7H836248 I can't get used to VINs starting with numbers. It's not exactly intuitive that 2 means Canada the way J does Japan. Anyway, should be an '07 Dodge Charger. Dealer says it's a program car. I wonder, is it really, or just a retired rental with unusually low miles? (8K on an '07?) Thanks Kaleb! (or whoever) Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Carfax request
x2 I got one free of charge with my CDI. Nevermind that I left that + my service history at the dealer (realized after I left town...). They still gave it to me for free. John R John Freer wrote: All dealers should be providing carfax reports at no charge. If they don't, I walk knowing they are hiding something and let them know that. John On 6/23/08, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VIN is 2B3KA43GX7H836248 I can't get used to VINs starting with numbers. It's not exactly intuitive that 2 means Canada the way J does Japan. Anyway, should be an '07 Dodge Charger. Dealer says it's a program car. I wonder, is it really, or just a retired rental with unusually low miles? (8K on an '07?) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy
'Gonna hafta accept the fact that it's now slightly less than perfect. 'Still LOOKS showroom, though. Wilton - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy So. . . . . you going to pull it apart again and install the clip so it will be perfect??? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 1:32 PM To: mercedes Subject: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy 'Just found the little spring clip I thought I had lost several days ago on the carpet/rug!! Some may remember that I was trying to press one of the little spring clips in place on the outside of my evap box when my thumb slipped, and the clip flew; 'thought I heard it land on the rug behind me. 'Couldn't find it; used a ziptie in its place. 'Was getting in the car 'bout an hour ago and reached down to fold my walker and put it in the back seat. There on the bottom of the cargo area (canvas bag) of my walker was the clip!! Mystery solved! What I thought was sound of clip hitting the rug was the clip hitting the canvas. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 F250
3.x final drive and a clutch, it probably would have done much better. Our '85 crew cab F350 dually 6.9L 4spd manny got 15MPG average. I think that it had a 3.55 final drive. It did the job well! Of course, it was back in the mid 90's before Diesel pickups became MONSTERS! The '07 Cummins Diesel Ram with the 9300# (fully loaded) travel trailer on it would outrun the old Ford towing the 4000# boat! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300D monovalve weirdness
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 1:30 PM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: I thought by pinching the hose on either side of the monovalve I should be doing what the valve is designed to do when full cooling is called for, i.e. let the air cooled by passing through the evaporator stay cool (and thereby also there shouldn't be any way to get hot air either). Somebody enlighten me. Doesn't the monovalve have three ports? ie, a bypass.. Maybe you clamped the wrong hose? That sounded like such a potential happy ending that I ran outside to check. No dice---I looked (and felt) all over the unit and there's definitely only the two hoses, one going towards the firewall (into the heater core, I presume), and one going to the expansion tank. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another reason to stay home
Mitch wrote: If you think any of the Repugnant party presidents of the last 30 years could have prevented those plane crashes, you're nuts enough to support the so-called Patriot Act. I agree with you that it would have been damn near impossible to prevent the actual acts on September 11th once the plan was in action. But, bin Laden was getting more and more bold in his plans and Clinton didn't do enough to stop him. That is what happens when you cut hum intelligence assets dramatically. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Iowa Flooding
As a Des Moines resident, I've got to say that as bad as the iowa flooding is, it in no way compares in scale or severity to New Orleans and Katrina. Many fewer people affected, much more notice, a FEMA that learned a few things after Katrina, much less population density, more routes out. Also, the memory of the 1993 floods here is still fresh, and people knew to take this seriously. The two situations are just not comparable, for many more than purely cultural differences. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] C140 Coolant Issues
16,5L is nearly 4 gallons, and I don't think it holds that much, more like12L -- the radiator would need to be HUGE to hold 2 gal of coolant! Did you burp it? Squeeze the upper radiator hose flat, crimp the line from the top of the radiator to the reserve tank shut, and then let go of the radiator hose. This will draw coolant through the block from the bottom hose on the tank. Repeat until the level no longer drops in the tank, adding coolant as necessary. Peter On Jun 23, 2008, at 2:13 AM, Tarek Elshenawy wrote: Changed my coolant today... Drained the radiator Drained the block Citric acid flush Drained radiator and block again Flushed with clean water twice Go to fill it back up to 16,5l capacity... Add 2 gal Mercedes antifreeze 1 bottle water wetter Expansion tank is full Ran engine to operating temp Heater on max Topped up with .25 gal clean water Expansion tank full Why am I nowhere close to getting 16,5l? Tarek ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300D monovalve weirdness
No, the 300D has only to connections, the later W124's have a split core. Your clamp is leaking -- remember, there is a pump pushing the coolant throught. Clamp the hose going into the heater core, up by the brake booster as well. Flat jaw vise grips work the best. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Carfax request
Report Run Date: 06/23/2008 The vehicle identification number you submitted has been analyzed and summary information on your car is shown below. AutoCheck Unlimited with TitleGuard - Optional upgrade for just $25.00 more! Protect your investment against title problems. Add TitleGuard protections to your unlimited 60-day AutoCheck subscription. VIN: 2B3KA43GX7H836248 Year: 2007 Make: Dodge Model: Charger Base / SXT Style/Body: Sedan 4D Class: Mid Range Car - Standard Engine: 3.5L V6 EFI Country of Assembly: Canada Vehicle Age: 1 year(s) Calculated Owners: 1 Last Reported Odometer Reading: 8,208 This vehicle's AutoCheck Score 92 91-93 This vehicle qualifies for Buyback Protection About Buyback Protection Section summaries Title and ProblemCheck:Your vehicle checks out! OdometerCheck:Your vehicle checks out! Vehicle Use and EventCheck:Specific vehicle use(s) or events reported Full History:Detailed information available Title and ProblemCheck Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck's database for this 2007 Dodge Charger Base / SXT (2B3KA43GX7H836248) shows no negative titles or other problems. When reported to AutoCheck, these events can indicate serious past damage or other significant problems. 0 Problem(s) Reported: 15 Title/Problem areas checked: No abandoned title record No damaged title or major damage incident record No fire damaged title record No grey market title record No hail damage title record No insurance loss title record No junk or scrapped title record No manufacturer buyback/lemon title record No odometer problem title record No rebuilt/rebuildable title record No salvage title or salvage auction record No water damaged title record No NHTSA crash test record No frame damage record No recycling facility record OdometerCheck Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck examined the reported odometer readings reported to AutoCheck for this 2007 Dodge Charger Base / SXT (2B3KA43GX7H836248) and no indication of an odometer rollback or tampering was found. AutoCheck uses business rules to determine if reported odometer readings are significantly less than previously reported values. Not all reported odometer readings are used. Title and auction events also report odometer tampering or breakage. 0 Problem(s) Reported: Mileage Date Reported 5 06/26/2007 8,202 03/13/2008 8,208 03/19/2008 Vehicle Use and EventCheck Information Reported! AutoCheck shows additional information reported to AutoCheck about how this 2007 Dodge Charger Base / SXT (2B3KA43GX7H836248)has been used and other events. This includes reported accidents and corrected or duplicate titles and storm area registrations. 1 Event(s) Reported: 6 Vehicle uses checked: Fleet, rental and/or lease use record(s) No taxi use record No police use record No government use record No livery use record No driver education record 1 Event(s) Reported: 9 Vehicle events checked: No accident record reported through state agencies or independent sources No corrected title record No duplicate title record No emission/safety inspection record Loan/Lien record(s) No fire damage incident record No repossessed record No theft record No storm area registration/title record Full History Below are the historical events for this vehicle listed in chronological order. Any discrepancies will be in bold text. Report Run Date:: 06/23/2008 Vehicle: 2007 Dodge Charger Base / SXT (2B3KA43GX7H836248) Event date Location Odometer reading Data Source Details 06/26/2007 OR 5 Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV 07/17/2007 PORTLAND, OR Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:0719855834) REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL TITLED OR REGISTERED AS A RENTAL VEHICLE, OR PART OF A RENTAL FLEET (Lien Reported) 03/13/2008 PACIFIC NW REGION 8,202 Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION AS MANUFACTURER VEHICLE 03/19/2008 SAINT HELENS, OR 8,208 Dealer Record VEHICLE IN DEALER INVENTORY (COLOR REPORTED AS BLUE) 03/28/2008 PORTLAND, OR Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL TITLED OR REGISTERED AS A RENTAL VEHICLE, OR PART OF A RENTAL FLEET This Vehicle's Glossary Below are the specific definitions for events that appear in this vehicle's report. More information is available in the full AutoCheck glossary. Term Section Location Definition Loan/Lien Vehicle Use and EventCheck A loan/lien is the legal right to take and hold or sell the vehicle of a debtor as security or payment for a debt. Normally, a vehicle will have a lien due to a loan or unpaid repair bill against the vehicle. Fleet, Rental and/or Lease Use Vehicle Use and EventCheck The vehicle has been reported as used as a fleet, rental and/or lease vehicle. Alex Chamberlain wrote: VIN is 2B3KA43GX7H836248 I can't get used to VINs starting with numbers. It's not exactly intuitive that 2
Re: [MBZ] '87 300D monovalve weirdness
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, the 300D has only to connections, the later W124's have a split core. Your clamp is leaking -- remember, there is a pump pushing the coolant throught. Clamp the hose going into the heater core, up by the brake booster as well. Flat jaw vise grips work the best. Thanks Peter, will try that tonight when I get back to my tools. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another reason to stay home
Donald Snook wrote: I agree with you that it would have been damn near impossible to prevent the actual acts on September 11th once the plan was in action. But, bin Laden was getting more and more bold in his plans and Clinton didn't do enough to stop him. That is what happens when you cut hum intelligence assets dramatically. What I was (not so politely) getting at was GWB has spent half a trillion dollars or so, and over six years, with military and CIA, trying to get Bin Laden, with no better result than Clinton had. Worse yet, Reagan used the CIA to train and equip Bin Laden, so it's really hard to blame Clinton for the various attacks on the WTC. I used to watch those PSAs on TV six years ago: Want to help finance international terrorism? If you buy illegal drugs, you probably already do, and I'd think to myself: Want to help finance international terrorism? If you pay federal taxes, you already do. Same thing with the Taliban, as long as they were attacking the Soviets, their activities were fine with us. As far as ability to protect our own sovereign soil is concerned, I believe the USA military is currently in the worst shape it's been in for decades. Can't blame Clinton for that either. Mr You support our troops while I give them the shaft is more to blame for that. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Carfax request
Vehicle: 2007 Dodge Charger Base / SXT (2B3KA43GX7H836248) Event date Location Odometer reading Data Source Details 06/26/2007 OR 5 Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV 07/17/2007 PORTLAND, OR Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:0719855834) REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL TITLED OR REGISTERED AS A RENTAL VEHICLE, OR PART OF A RENTAL FLEET (Lien Reported) 03/13/2008 PACIFIC NW REGION 8,202 Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION AS MANUFACTURER VEHICLE 03/19/2008 SAINT HELENS, OR 8,208 Dealer Record VEHICLE IN DEALER INVENTORY (COLOR REPORTED AS BLUE) 03/28/2008 PORTLAND, OR Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL TITLED OR REGISTERED AS A RENTAL VEHICLE, OR PART OF A RENTAL FLEET Huh, OK. This car was a rental from July through February, and got eight thousand miles on it. Seems low. What do y'all think? Fishy? The next to last entry above is the dealer on whose lot it is sitting right now, and the current mileage is 8,400 and change. 200 miles of test driving in three months? That part sounds reasonable. But why did they retitle it as a rental, or is that a mistake? At least if they've had it in inventory for three months and haven't been able to move it, that gives me a good bargaining chip. Ever feel like Carfax brings up more questions than it answers? Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Carfax request
TITLED OR REGISTERED AS A RENTAL VEHICLE, OR PART OF A RENTAL FLEET Could be a rental or lease car. I wonder if 'factory official' would show up that way too. 03/13/2008 PACIFIC NW REGION 8,202 Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION AS MANUFACTURER VEHICLE Hmm, looking like Chrysler was the leasing company, or maybe it was an executive car. 03/19/2008 SAINT HELENS, OR 8,208 Dealer Record VEHICLE IN DEALER INVENTORY (COLOR REPORTED AS BLUE) They've been sitting on it for three months, so it's not worth what they are asking for it. Lowball them hard, but let them know that you are serious and will close today if they meet your price. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Torque Wrench Question
Use one of the little food weighing scales that read up to 1lb. to push a wrench, and read the ounces? They're relatively cheap. You really only need relative readings, so absolute accuracy isn't an issue. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy
Amen, brother! On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd love to see it, Wilton. This operation is one of the things on my long to-do list. Ditto! The more info on this daunting job, the better. Alex Chamberlain passel of 124s -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Torque Wrench Question
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 4:23 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Use one of the little food weighing scales that read up to 1lb. to push a wrench, and read the ounces? Times the length of your wrench, of course! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Carfax request
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TITLED OR REGISTERED AS A RENTAL VEHICLE, OR PART OF A RENTAL FLEET Could be a rental or lease car. I wonder if 'factory official' would show up that way too. 03/13/2008 PACIFIC NW REGION 8,202 Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION AS MANUFACTURER VEHICLE Hmm, looking like Chrysler was the leasing company, or maybe it was an executive car. The salesperson referred to it as a program car, which I know theoretically means a car lent to an exec or used for some promotional purpose... but I took it with a grain of salt, since I know low-mileage rentals and lease returns are also often described that way. Maybe she really did mean the former. It sure seemed like a creampuff, but any car with that few miles does when you're used to driving 20 yr old cars with 200K+ mi. 03/19/2008 SAINT HELENS, OR 8,208 Dealer Record VEHICLE IN DEALER INVENTORY (COLOR REPORTED AS BLUE) They've been sitting on it for three months, so it's not worth what they are asking for it. Lowball them hard, but let them know that you are serious and will close today if they meet your price. Yeah, that was pretty much how I was planning to approach it, if I go for this one. Thanks for the verification that my thinking is sound. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Torque Wrench Question
Or, push at five inches out -- then the test after installing the new seal should be one more ounce. On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 4:23 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Use one of the little food weighing scales that read up to 1lb. to push a wrench, and read the ounces? Times the length of your wrench, of course! Alex -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Muffler O-Rings
I put the hard hangers on my 240D when I installed the new exhaust a couple weeks ago. I did it because I figured they might last a bit longer than the donuts. I think somebody said they might have chain inside the rubber. The ones I installed are really tight and the rear muffler is now rubbing against its heatshield and making a noise at idle. I think once the system warms up completely they'll sag a bit and won't be a problem. If that doesn't work I'd bought some of the soft donuts and I'll use those instead and try the hard ones on my 190D. -Curt Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:20:47 -0400 From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Muffler O-Rings To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Hi Craig - Found the Hard V soft o-rings - they are for the 78 240D PN H8050-14328 - Soft PN H8050-14875 - Hard (used on both the 78 240D the 91 300D) Thx - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Something about light bulbs - NO MB
Doesn't our congress have anything better to do? Also how the heck does he not have a glass jar with a metal top? Doesn't he eat pickles? Why is it a big deal to pick up glass fragments with duct tape? Is it better to use your skin? Yeah CFL bulbs have mercury. No we shouldn't use that as an argument to drill in ANWAR, we should use less energy... -Curt Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:04:57 -0700 From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Something about light bulbs - NO MB To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed And something's is wrong! Chuck Phoenix AZ just CLICK ON LINE BELOW ...You WILL Love It and get a little PO'd ... http://youtube.com/watch?v=e-LOtKIIKcg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Muffler O-Rings
I went away for a few days a couple weeks ago and came home to Brunnhilde's muffler and tailpipe sitting on the pavement. All 4 donuts gone, they were maybe a year or so old. Maybe the Houston heat. Brunnhilde is moving to Johns Island SC next week, maybe she will be happier and not be dragging her privates. --R Curt Raymond wrote: I put the hard hangers on my 240D when I installed the new exhaust a couple weeks ago. I did it because I figured they might last a bit longer than the donuts. I think somebody said they might have chain inside the rubber. The ones I installed are really tight and the rear muffler is now rubbing against its heatshield and making a noise at idle. I think once the system warms up completely they'll sag a bit and won't be a problem. If that doesn't work I'd bought some of the soft donuts and I'll use those instead and try the hard ones on my 190D. -Curt Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:20:47 -0400 From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Muffler O-Rings To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Hi Craig - Found the Hard V soft o-rings - they are for the 78 240D PN H8050-14328 - Soft PN H8050-14875 - Hard (used on both the 78 240D the 91 300D) Thx - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Muffler O-Rings
Holy snot! I think the reason Hammie originally dropped his whole exhaust back in 2003 was catastrophic failure of the exhaust hangers. That time I had nothing but the manifold and collector pipe left... The latest failure I *think* was just the front hangers, I've got 2 donuts left over... -Curt Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:23:19 -0500 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Muffler O-Rings To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I went away for a few days a couple weeks ago and came home to Brunnhilde's muffler and tailpipe sitting on the pavement. All 4 donuts gone, they were maybe a year or so old. Maybe the Houston heat. Brunnhilde is moving to Johns Island SC next week, maybe she will be happier and not be dragging her privates. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Muffler O-Rings
It's my understanding that the O rings that had the chains in them were primarily for 107 chassis cars, or were originally used on them - I seem to recall my dealer parts guy telling me that.. Dan --- Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Holy snot! I think the reason Hammie originally dropped his whole exhaust back in 2003 was catastrophic failure of the exhaust hangers. That time I had nothing but the manifold and collector pipe left... The latest failure I *think* was just the front hangers, I've got 2 donuts left over... -Curt Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:23:19 -0500 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Muffler O-Rings To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I went away for a few days a couple weeks ago and came home to Brunnhilde's muffler and tailpipe sitting on the pavement. All 4 donuts gone, they were maybe a year or so old. Maybe the Houston heat. Brunnhilde is moving to Johns Island SC next week, maybe she will be happier and not be dragging her privates. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Muffler O-Rings
I have not had an O ring failure since I replaced them with several loops of 3/16 dacron guy wire. An additional feature is that you can snug them up to get the muffler position you want. Holy snot! I think the reason Hammie originally dropped his whole exhaust back in 2003 was catastrophic failure of the exhaust hangers. That time I had nothing but the manifold and collector pipe left... The latest failure I *think* was just the front hangers, I've got 2 donuts left over... -Curt I went away for a few days a couple weeks ago and came home to Brunnhilde's muffler and tailpipe sitting on the pavement. All 4 donuts gone, they were maybe a year or so old. Maybe the Houston heat. Brunnhilde is moving to Johns Island SC next week, maybe she will be happier and not be dragging her privates. --R -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 2:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** ** * **** * * *** U.S. Department of Energy** ** ** * Energy Information Administration * **** ******* To unsubscribe/change address, ** ** ** ** ** * see the message footnotes * * EIA, the Nation's clearinghouse for energy statistics. *** ** (NOTE: To best view this document, your email software should be set to view the item in an 80 character format, using a non-proportional font, e.g. courier) ** On-Highway Diesel Prices, by Week and PADD (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes) Diesel Prices Web URL: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp Average All Types US NATL EASTNEWCENTLOWER GULF ROCKY WEST DATE AVGCOAST ENGLAND ATL ATL MIDWEST COAST MTN COAST CA PADD PADDPADDPADDPADDPADD PADDPADD I IA IB IC II III IV V -- - - --- - - --- - - - - 080623 4.648 4.711 4.833 4.831 4.648 4.574 4.602 4.652 4.816 4.922 080616 4.692 4.752 4.853 4.874 4.690 4.618 4.656 4.685 4.852 4.969 080609 4.692 4.743 4.834 4.879 4.677 4.615 4.658 4.698 4.874 4.992 080602 4.707 4.759 4.846 4.907 4.687 4.643 4.664 4.680 4.878 5.027 080526 4.723 4.779 4.843 4.913 4.717 4.667 4.673 4.653 4.883 5.027 080519 4.497 4.544 4.610 4.682 4.480 4.463 4.443 4.442 4.610 4.737 080512 4.331 4.377 4.463 4.516 4.310 4.298 4.268 4.276 4.454 4.547 080505 4.149 4.194 4.337 4.345 4.117 4.101 4.084 4.156 4.303 4.382 080428 4.177 4.230 4.346 4.376 4.157 4.133 4.113 4.141 4.312 4.390 080421 4.143 4.207 4.346 4.370 4.126 4.098 4.077 4.111 4.255 4.317 080414 4.059 4.117 4.239 4.266 4.043 4.013 4.000 4.039 4.176 4.234 080407 3.955 4.005 4.121 4.142 3.936 3.917 3.894 3.974 4.052 4.118 080331 3.964 4.014 4.130 4.160 3.941 3.929 3.907 3.972 4.049 4.112 080324 3.989 4.045 4.142 4.186 3.975 3.964 3.928 3.953 4.056 4.119 080317 3.974 4.035 4.119 4.177 3.967 3.958 3.914 3.892 4.018 4.083 080310 3.819 3.870 3.938 3.989 3.814 3.784 3.798 3.732 3.885 3.955 080303 3.658 3.700 3.813 3.825 3.636 3.639 3.609 3.573 3.736 3.803 080225 3.552 3.608 3.710 3.693 3.562 3.525 3.510 3.473 3.609 3.672 080218 3.396 3.444 3.588 3.526 3.396 3.365 3.367 3.350 3.454 3.511 080211 3.280 3.324 3.542 3.412 3.266 3.249 3.239 3.264 3.347 3.393 080204 3.280 3.338 3.566 3.438 3.275 3.243 3.247 3.260 3.325 3.377 080128 3.259 3.327 3.583 3.432 3.258 3.218 3.218 3.236 3.301 3.346 080121 3.270 3.343 3.594 3.472 3.264 3.228 3.222 3.229 3.327 3.360 080114 3.326 3.391 3.621 3.510 3.318 3.288 3.266 3.261 3.420 3.459 080107 3.376 3.436 3.644 3.554 3.366 3.345 3.318 3.276 3.474 3.526 071231 3.345 3.399 3.600 3.519 3.328 3.309 3.293 3.269 3.451 3.491 071224 3.308 3.356 3.584 3.497 3.275 3.277 3.246 3.268 3.411 3.434 071217 3.309 3.359 3.581 3.511 3.273 3.271 3.245 3.319 3.415 3.426 071210 3.325 3.372 3.570 3.514 3.293 3.276 3.265 3.397 3.440 3.455 071203 3.416 3.444 3.595 3.570 3.376 3.385 3.345 3.487 3.532 3.567 071126 3.444 3.453 3.590 3.574 3.389 3.423 3.360 3.527 3.587 3.620 071119 3.410 3.407 3.488 3.524 3.350 3.389 3.324 3.507 3.586 3.624 071112 3.425 3.415 3.484 3.523 3.362 3.403 3.347 3.532 3.608 3.663 071105 3.303 3.290 3.375 3.381 3.244 3.278 3.219 3.411 3.508 3.524 071029 3.157 3.148 3.250 3.251 3.095 3.122 3.062 3.281 3.394 3.406 071022 3.094 3.078 3.182 3.186 3.022 3.067 2.994 3.229 3.323 3.338 071015 3.039 3.023 3.122 3.125 2.970 3.025 2.941 3.169 3.229 3.249 071008 3.035 3.031 3.123 3.137 2.977 3.028 2.946 3.139 3.167 3.197 071001 3.048 3.052 3.117 3.141 3.008 3.061 2.975 3.100 3.090 3.143 070924 3.032 3.037 3.100 3.124 2.993 3.054 2.971 3.028 3.054 3.093 070917 2.964 2.961 3.025 3.054 2.916 2.984 2.903 2.972 2.998 3.023 070910 2.924 2.912 2.968 2.991 2.872 2.942 2.865 2.955 2.982
Re: [MBZ] Muffler O-Rings
The ones I installed are really tight and the rear muffler is now rubbing against its heatshield and making a noise at idle. There's a rubber bumper above the muffler that's supposed to prevent that. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Torque Wrench Question
One would wonder how they made the first one ? Easy. A spring scale or weight pulling on the end of a fixed wrench. Torque is force applied at a distance from an axle of some sort. I used a common fishing scale (pull spring) when I tried to do this job. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Okay brain trust
I've got next week off from work and need to get Hammie the 240D roadworthy. The two big projects are a new hood (relatively easy) and getting the door locks to work. Neither works at all, the driver's lock barely budges at all, the passenger's side turns a little. I can't take the door handle off without being able to turn the lock... So if I cut the shaft from the lock to the locking mechanism do I have a hope of being able to get a new one or repair this one? Meaning if I cut it will I really have screwed myself? My wife can't be driving a car that has doors she can't lock... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Torque Wrench Question
OK Don wrote: Or, push at five inches out -- then the test after installing the new seal should be one more ounce. Shouldn't that be one more pound? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] FW: The new Dodge Ram -- a game-changer
Another Chrysler update for anyone who might care. Thanks, Tom Hargrave HYPERLINK http://www.kegkits.comwww.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 2:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fw: The new Dodge Ram -- a game-changer - Forwarded by Karen J Hargrave/HNT/DCC/DCX on 06/23/2008 02:40 PM - Chrysler Comm 06/23/2008 12:28 PM To Chrysler Employees and Contractors cc Subject The new Dodge Ram -- a game-changer Dear Colleagues, The countdown begins. Yesterday marked 100 days until the Marketing launch of the all-new 2009 Dodge Ram 1500, a vehicle that truly stands apart from the competition. Since the dawn of the big rig look, the Dodge Ram has always been a game-changer. This new truck is no different. With a typically bold Dodge exterior design, a crafted and refined interior, engineering excellence, superb innovation and best-in-class features and amenities, this truck is ready for demanding truck buyers. Below are just a few facts to consider and share: * First-for-Ram crew cab model, giving Dodge an entry into the largest and fastest-growing part of the market * First-in-segment coil-spring, multilink rear suspension fitted to a solid rear axle provides superb ride and handling without sacrificing truck capability * Industry-first RamBox cargo management system (crew cab) includes versatile, weatherproof, lockable, illuminated and drainable storage; pickup bed divider; 2-foot bed extender; and cargo rail system with four sliding, adjustable cleats * Segment exclusive “store in the floor” storage bins with removable liners, big enough for ten 12-ounce beverages and ice * New 5.7-liter HEMI® V-8 provides more horsepower and more torque with improved fuel economy * Segment-exclusive chrome-tipped dual exhaust styled dramatically into the rear bumper * Safety is standard with more than 30 safety features, including standard four-wheel Anti-lock Brake System and Electronic Stability Program with Hill Start Assist and Trailer Sway Control * More than 35 new or improved features And the list goes on. No one will dispute the fact that this is a challenging market in which to launch a new pickup truck, but light-duty pickups still comprise one of the largest and most profitable vehicle segments in the automotive market. We all should be extremely proud of this truck. The whole team has worked very hard to put the best possible Dodge Ram on the market –- one that is truly bold, powerful and capable. With this truck, we can be confident that we will increase our share of the light-duty truck market. Let's all do our part to help build excitement for the launch of a truck that is sure to be a standout in the segment –- the 2009 Dodge Ram 1500. Sincerely, Mike Accavitti Director -- Dodge Brand No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1513 - Release Date: 6/22/2008 7:52 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1513 - Release Date: 6/22/2008 7:52 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Torque Wrench Question
Well, now that you mention it - YES! Duh! On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 8:32 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK Don wrote: Or, push at five inches out -- then the test after installing the new seal should be one more ounce. Shouldn't that be one more pound? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] FW: The new Dodge Ram -- a game-changer
Just in time for the demise of the pickup market? 2008/6/23 Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Another Chrysler update for anyone who might care. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] U2 cockpit tour
http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/exclusivevids/ExclusiveVideo_U2CockpitTour_197436-1.html ** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] FW: The new Dodge Ram -- a game-changer
There will never be a demise of the pickup market. If you need one, you need one, there is no substitute. OK Don wrote: Just in time for the demise of the pickup market? 2008/6/23 Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Another Chrysler update for anyone who might care. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another reason to stay home
I think the official term is blowback. We are reaping quite a bit of the harvest we sowed during the cold war -- much of which was to benefit the makers of military equipment. I won't contiue, it's been a good day and I don't want to mess it up. Peter On Jun 23, 2008, at 6:00 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Donald Snook wrote: I agree with you that it would have been damn near impossible to prevent the actual acts on September 11th once the plan was in action. But, bin Laden was getting more and more bold in his plans and Clinton didn't do enough to stop him. That is what happens when you cut hum intelligence assets dramatically. What I was (not so politely) getting at was GWB has spent half a trillion dollars or so, and over six years, with military and CIA, trying to get Bin Laden, with no better result than Clinton had. Worse yet, Reagan used the CIA to train and equip Bin Laden, so it's really hard to blame Clinton for the various attacks on the WTC. I used to watch those PSAs on TV six years ago: Want to help finance international terrorism? If you buy illegal drugs, you probably already do, and I'd think to myself: Want to help finance international terrorism? If you pay federal taxes, you already do. Same thing with the Taliban, as long as they were attacking the Soviets, their activities were fine with us. As far as ability to protect our own sovereign soil is concerned, I believe the USA military is currently in the worst shape it's been in for decades. Can't blame Clinton for that either. Mr You support our troops while I give them the shaft is more to blame for that. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Muffler O-Rings
Check the condition of the rubber pad the muffler sits up against on that model. There is a flat on the front or on the resonator that is supposed to be pressed up firmly against a rubber pad on the frame. If the pad is gone (likely) it will rattle, and if the pipes are sagging, it may also drum. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] FW: The new Dodge Ram -- a game-changer
Most aren't needed. Those that are will still be bought/sold, but the mass market for trucks that make you feel like a man are declining, or so my boss told me. On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There will never be a demise of the pickup market. If you need one, you need one, there is no substitute. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '86 SDL Klima
The a/c voltage from the compressor RPM sensor is to low. It showed about .03vac instead of the required .3vac. Measuring resistance gave me 620ohms, which is within range. So, that leads me to belive that according to 1986.pdf, starting at page 9 (found here: www.gulseth.net/benz/1986.pdf ), the Klima relay is bad. Thoughts? Do I need to replace the a/c RPM sensor? -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] FW: The new Dodge Ram -- a game-changer
But I'll bet far fewer of them will be seen as commuter vehicles soon You need a pickup to haul stuff, but not to haul your backside 50 miles to a factory or office job. A sedan works great. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another reason to stay home
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:38:45 -0400 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Donald Snook wrote: I forgot to add, Mr. Clinton preferred terrorism, aka killing Americans in the WTC on Sept 11, 2001, to actually funding the military and counter terrorists branches of the CIA. The asset theft ring known as the DEA really got going in the Reagan era, but Clinton expanded it quite a bit. If you think any of the Repugnant party presidents of the last 30 years could have prevented those plane crashes, you're nuts enough to support the so-called Patriot Act. But the Republican presidents would not have errected barriers to information transfer between the CIA and the FBI, among other things. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Okay brain trust
Six or seven years ago, I purchased for my 81 300D a NEW door handle assembly from Caliber Motors in CA with factory original locking cylinder, key, etc. I think I vaguely remember that I got a coupla handle assemblies from salvage yard about the same time. 'Planned to put my cylinders in them. Meanwhile, while waiting for new handle, I switched all the handles from left to right, which turned them all over, putting new-looking chrome visible on top and moved the little-used front passenger lock./handle to the driver door. This worked so well I never installed the new handle; 'gave it to buyer of the car 4 yrs ago. I'll look in attic tomorrow to see if I may have coupla handles. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 9:31 PM Subject: [MBZ] Okay brain trust I've got next week off from work and need to get Hammie the 240D roadworthy. The two big projects are a new hood (relatively easy) and getting the door locks to work. Neither works at all, the driver's lock barely budges at all, the passenger's side turns a little. I can't take the door handle off without being able to turn the lock... So if I cut the shaft from the lock to the locking mechanism do I have a hope of being able to get a new one or repair this one? Meaning if I cut it will I really have screwed myself? My wife can't be driving a car that has doors she can't lock... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] FW: The new Dodge Ram -- a game-changer
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: There will never be a demise of the pickup market. If you need one, you need one, there is no substitute. What I'm seeing right now is maximum pain in the passenger truck market, where few people want a new Escalate or Unnavigable, and nobody wants a used one. This bothers me not one bit, I welcome a little distress in that market segment. And if somebody wants a leather trimmed work truck and can't afford a pickup, just find a nice supermega SUV marked down to $8k and offer them $4k for it. You can't get a comparable pickup for that much. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] FW: The new Dodge Ram -- a game-changer
Good time to buy stock in Viagra. On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 10:40 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most aren't needed. Those that are will still be bought/sold, but the mass market for trucks that make you feel like a man are declining, or so my boss told me. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another reason to stay home
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:00:53 -0400 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as ability to protect our own sovereign soil is concerned, I believe the USA military is currently in the worst shape it's been in for decades. Can't blame Clinton for that either. Mr You support our troops while I give them the shaft is more to blame for that. You mean that Reid fellow in Congress? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] U2 cockpit tour
Great video! Thanks -- I found this one on the site as well --- http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/exclusivevids/ExclusiveVideo_PattyWagstaff_SunNFun2008_197789-1.html On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 9:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/exclusivevids/ExclusiveVideo_U2CockpitTour_197436-1.html -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Okay brain trust
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:31:54 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So if I cut the shaft from the lock to the locking mechanism do I have a hope of being able to get a new one or repair this one? Meaning if I cut it will I really have screwed myself? Not having time to look at the innards of our car's doors, I think you would be wise to not cut it. My wife can't be driving a car that has doors she can't lock... That's for sure. But you're not clear what the problem is: Is it the parts inside the door handle, or the parts inside the door that the parts inside the door handle turn? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Okay brain trust
That'd be great. I'm reasonably sure if I could get the *%#! thing apart I could free up the cylinder. The passenger side has been making progress by filling it with penetrating oil (first PB Blaster, now SeaFoam Deep Creep). I think if I could soak the cylinder in penetrant it'd free up pretty easily... -Curt --- On Mon, 6/23/08, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Okay brain trust To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Monday, June 23, 2008, 10:47 PM Six or seven years ago, I purchased for my 81 300D a NEW door handle assembly from Caliber Motors in CA with factory original locking cylinder, key, etc. I think I vaguely remember that I got a coupla handle assemblies from salvage yard about the same time. 'Planned to put my cylinders in them. Meanwhile, while waiting for new handle, I switched all the handles from left to right, which turned them all over, putting new-looking chrome visible on top and moved the little-used front passenger lock./handle to the driver door. This worked so well I never installed the new handle; 'gave it to buyer of the car 4 yrs ago. I'll look in attic tomorrow to see if I may have coupla handles. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 9:31 PM Subject: [MBZ] Okay brain trust I've got next week off from work and need to get Hammie the 240D roadworthy. The two big projects are a new hood (relatively easy) and getting the door locks to work. Neither works at all, the driver's lock barely budges at all, the passenger's side turns a little. I can't take the door handle off without being able to turn the lock... So if I cut the shaft from the lock to the locking mechanism do I have a hope of being able to get a new one or repair this one? Meaning if I cut it will I really have screwed myself? My wife can't be driving a car that has doors she can't lock... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
