date:20210118

>> Gas prices have gone up a little bit
> Up $.35 in Rockville Maryland in the past 2 weeks

"Only the beginning".

https://youtu.be/pizRRft3_8Y

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

> As Mrs. Dan is a believer in binary throttle control, she loved it.

On / off. Same with brakes.

I have had to troubleshoot engine issues and found no problems until I mashed 
my foot to the floor.

People that drive like that need to be given Hellcats or Charger SRT8's for a 
couple days with the traction control disabled.

"I don't understand why it won't go. And there's this awful burning smell and 
smoke when I take off. And the car slides sideways."

Rick

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Wife's Mazda 6 was like that. Feather on the throttle and you were zoom-zooming 
big time. I hated it. So did the boys.

-D

> On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:07 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
>> raining (or even just slightly wet), the tires will spin when trying to take 
>> off from a stop.
>
> I wonder if it's due to the wretched 'modern' tendency, especially of GM (?), 
> to have a very
> sudden throttle onset, which I'm inclined to believe is intended to trick the 
> buyer into thinking
> the vehicle has a lot of power.  (To me it's just a dismaying lack of 
> control-ability.)
>
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Re: [MBZ] Everytime I leave the house....

Up $.35 in Rockville Maryland in the past 2 weeks

On Mon, Jan 18, 2021, 10:21 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> Gas prices have gone up a little bit. I have a feeling we will soon see $4
> diesel again.
>
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[MBZ] Everytime I leave the house....

Gas prices have gone up a little bit. I have a feeling we will soon see $4 
diesel again. 

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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

My W123 300D is currently wearing 195-70R14 Uniroyal Tiger Paw tires,
the W116 300SD (with what appears to be the same Bundt style wheels) has
205-70R14 General Altimax RT. I would not swear that either one is
officially the "best" size. The W116 has the tires that were on it when
I got it, and the W123 has gotten the same size it had before anytime
I've replaced tires. Both cars have atrocious traction in the snow.

Allan

Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:

> I just looked at Tire Rack. Hankook Kinergy ST and General Altimax  
> RT43 in both 175r70-14 and 185R70.
>
> Weren't the originals something like 175R80 or R83?
>
> I did a car search at Tire Rack, for 1984 300D they told me 195/70,  
> for 1979 240D they told me 'we don't sell that'. A lot more choices in  
> 195 than in 185, including the classic Vredestein Sprint (which costs  
> more than a 17" Michelin Crossclimate for my mom's Malibu).
>
> Just ordered a couple of wheels and four TPMS for the Malibu, Farm  
> Bureau will sell me Firestone WeatherGrip for $149 installed if I  
> supply the TPMS. They seem to be pretty high ranked among the Three  
> Mountain Snowflake stuff if you care more about snow performance than  
> summer performance.
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] might be interesting


On 2021-01-18 19:51, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Too bad you have to have a dealers license or use a broker for TN

https://www.copart.com/lot/53868750/clean-title-1985-mercedes-benz-500-sel-tn-memphis


Around here, the donation places don't want to mess with retitling, so 
they just leave it on the donor's title and sell it to dealers who can 
reassign the title. But that kills the auction value of the donated car. 
It's as if the charities don't care, because the car was free.


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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs to buy this

Rofl.

On Mon, Jan 18, 2021, 5:38 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 'Drew inquires:
>
> >Is he a councilor or counsellor?
>
> Lawyer.
> Esquire.
> Attorney.
> Barrister.
> Legal counsel.
> Counselor.
>
> Present company (RB, DS) excepted synonyms.
>
> Shyster.
> Crook.
> Ambulance Chaser.
>
> As a side note, a recall a tale of a local attorney who used to send pizza
> to the ER with his business card attached. Not sure if it was true, but
> it's a good story.
>
> Rick
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[MBZ] might be interesting


Too bad you have to have a dealers license or use a broker for TN

https://www.copart.com/lot/53868750/clean-title-1985-mercedes-benz-500-sel-tn-memphis


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Re: [MBZ] 1992 400E - $2,750 "Mint Condition"

This looks like it could be a nice deal. I kid you not, if you’ve owned a 
W124/300E and want the same rock solid chassis with bad*ss performance, you 
want a 400E or E420. Lots of smiles per mile.


-D

> On Jan 18, 2021, at 8:29 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Paging Mercedes Martha.
> We have another BaT flip candidate.
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: January 18, 2021 2:06 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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> Subject: [MBZ] 1992 400E - $2,750 "Mint Condition"
> 
> Looks pretty nice, but wonder about the German flag on the right rear
> wheel arch?
> 
> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/indianapolis-mint-condition-1992/7263619400.html
> 
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] 1992 400E - $2,750 "Mint Condition"

Paging Mercedes Martha.
We have another BaT flip candidate.


Rick

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Subject: [MBZ] 1992 400E - $2,750 "Mint Condition"

Looks pretty nice, but wonder about the German flag on the right rear
wheel arch?

https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/indianapolis-mint-condition-1992/7263619400.html

Allan

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[MBZ] OT: stackbarrel shotguns

OF Mossberg and Sons, purveyors of budget friendly firearms, introduce 
some potentially nice shotguns with black walnut furniture. $700 MSRP 
field grade, $1000 gold reserve.


https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/mossberg-announces-the-new-silver-reserve-field-and-gold-reserve-sporting-o-u-shotguns/

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Re: [MBZ] OT: 2005 Jetta TDI wagon - $6,450

AFAIK all VW automatics are known to be weak behind the diesel engines.
Curt

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 6:56 PM, Peter Frederick via 
Mercedes wrote:   Didn't that model have a torque 
converter known for self-destruction?  

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Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?


On 2021-01-18 18:21, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Is PGP any good anymore? Or has a backdoor?
Probably "B".



What bugs me about bitlocker is M$ won't activate it unless you sign up 
for a M$ account and let them keep your encryption key for you. The 
closest I want to having my key out of my control is putting it in my 
safe deposit box.


Of course, that comes in handy sometimes, like when my bosses laptop 
took a dump on her last winter and she had done some payroll work on it 
that was not backed up anywhere. Took it to a shop and they pulled the 
HD, found it encrypted, and asked her for her bitlocker key. My what?
I told her to log into her M$ account and get the key. Why didn't the 
computer shop tell me I could get it that way? Good question.



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Re: [MBZ] OT 1959 Jaguar D-Type, $4, 500 This is a very rear car that will need a full restoration


On 2021-01-18 18:36, Frederick Moir via Mercedes wrote:

That is a Mark 8 or Mk 9 Saloon wreck.
A "D" type Jaguar is a very successful single seat race car.
I had a Mk 9 saloon automajik in the UK.


I figured a bent D-Type parts car or SS parts car would be worth a lot 
more than $5k.
Marks are graceful cars, but I don't think they're made of "I don't care 
what it costs, I need that".


Who was it that called the E Type the worlds greatest crumpet catcher? 
Maybe Stirling Moss?
I don't think I'll ever stop being surprised when I see a E project sell 
for over 50k.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: 2005 Jetta TDI wagon - $6,450

2021-01-18 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes

Didn't that model have a torque converter known for self-destruction?  

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Re: [MBZ] OT 1959 Jaguar D-Type, $4, 500 This is a very rear car that will need a full restoration

2021-01-18 Thread Frederick Moir via Mercedes

That is a Mark 8 or Mk 9 Saloon wreck.
A "D" type Jaguar is a very successful single seat race car.
I had a Mk 9 saloon automajik in the UK.
Fred


On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 3:15 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The car he is trying to sell is a wreck
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/206312787807807/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: 2005 Jetta TDI wagon - $6,450

Automatic.
RUN AWAY!

I think this guy is a curbstoner.
There was a low miles Camry that I saw posted in Valparaiso a while back.


Rick

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Subject: [MBZ] OT: 2005 Jetta TDI wagon - $6,450


https://tippecanoe.craigslist.org/cto/d/valparaiso-05-volkswagen-jetta-wagon/7261623604.html

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?

Is PGP any good anymore? Or has a backdoor?
Probably "B".

https://philzimmermann.com/EN/background/index.html


Rick

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?

Signal was/is considered a major threat to intelligence collection in the NSA 
and CIA. There are direct references to this in a number of the slide decks 
that Snowden exposed, and the FBI in particular has continued to clutch it’s 
pearls to Congress and the DOJ over it’s use by private citizens. It’s open 
source and not funded by any government agency. Working in the industry I can 
assure you that if I wanted 100% end to end encrypted messaging I would be 
using it.

And that’s all I’m going to say about it.

-D

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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

2021-01-18 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes

I don’t have a heavy foot.  I thought it was just because the bed was empty. 
But, after reading all the reviews of people complaining about the same thing 
in SUVs and vans, I don’t think it’s just a truck thing.  My old 92 F150 rode 
better when it was loaded. But, it didn’t spin on slightly wet roads. AND it 
had ordinary Firestone tires. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Jan 18, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:
> 
> 
>> I was just thinking about my upcoming trip from Okie Acres to Memphis in the 
>> 240D. I’m not sure about condition of tires so I imagine I will replace the 
>> tires later if needed. I was checking and the original size is 175/70/14.  
>> Apparently that size doesn’t exist anymore and most people are using 
>> 185-70-14 which is pretty close to the original.
>> 
>> Anybody have recommendations for tires in this size that you all have used 
>> on a 123?
>> 
>> As far as the OT Truck question, I have a 2019 Chevy Silverado that I bought 
>> back in May. It has 10,000 miles now. I have noticed that if it is raining 
>> (or even just slightly wet), the tires will spin when trying to take off 
>> from a stop.  I wondered if this was just because it was a truck with no 
>> weight in the bed. BUT, I was just reading reviews of these tires (Goodyear 
>> Fortitude HT) and LOTS of people complain about wet traction.
>> 
>> Anybody have a full size truck/SUV and really like the tires they have? Or 
>> have experience with others to avoid?  The truck is 2WD and weather in 
>> Memphis is pretty mild (except in the summer!).
>> 
>> Donald H. Snook
> 
> Do you just have a heavy foot? My F150 will spin the wheels when it is wet if 
> I step on it hard but I generally don't have an issue when I pull away from a 
> light. Don't recall what tires are on it but will look.
> 
> RB
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions


On 2021-01-18 16:45, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

There's a set of Michelin snow tires on my1995 E420. They work great.


If I were taking over mom's car, I might buy these, but for her I want 
something less performance and more snow.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Pirelli-P-Zero-All-Season-215-55R-17-Tires-Ultra-High-Performance-500AA-New/184422624258?

I briefly thought of sticking mom with these, they're as close to useful 
in the summer as snow tires get.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-215-55R17-Pirelli-Winter-Sotto-Zero-3-98V-XL-Tires/303778774296?

For all seasons, it looks like Michelin Crossclimate and Firestone 
WeatherGrip are the new kings of the hill. I feel sad for Continental, 
their DWS started the whole trend ten years ago and now they don't 
really have anything competitive.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=243

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Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?

2021-01-18 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes

If you don't have a web provider, you have to have your own hosting servers and 
internet connections.  Not cheap, and you have to have people to run them.  For 
a service that operates world wide with hundreds of millions of users 
potentially, we aren't talking a couple desktops in a corner.
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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

There's a set of Michelin snow tires on my1995 E420. They work great.

-D

> On Jan 18, 2021, at 5:15 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I just looked at Tire Rack. Hankook Kinergy ST and General Altimax RT43 in 
> both 175r70-14 and 185R70.
> 
> Weren't the originals something like 175R80 or R83?
> 
> I did a car search at Tire Rack, for 1984 300D they told me 195/70, for 1979 
> 240D they told me 'we don't sell that'. A lot more choices in 195 than in 
> 185, including the classic Vredestein Sprint (which costs more than a 17" 
> Michelin Crossclimate for my mom's Malibu).
> 
> Just ordered a couple of wheels and four TPMS for the Malibu, Farm Bureau 
> will sell me Firestone WeatherGrip for $149 installed if I supply the TPMS. 
> They seem to be pretty high ranked among the Three Mountain Snowflake stuff 
> if you care more about snow performance than summer performance.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs to buy this

'Drew inquires:

>Is he a councilor or counsellor?

Lawyer.
Esquire.
Attorney.
Barrister.
Legal counsel.
Counselor.

Present company (RB, DS) excepted synonyms.

Shyster.
Crook.
Ambulance Chaser.

As a side note, a recall a tale of a local attorney who used to send pizza to 
the ER with his business card attached. Not sure if it was true, but it's a 
good story.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Light green -- 1978 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D Sedan 4D, $2, 100

2021-01-18 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes

My 79 240D was that color. silber gruen?
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


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> This looks like a really good deal, car is mostly very nice, needs
> driver seat bottom
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3954949237876616/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined
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Re: [MBZ] OT: 2005 Jetta TDI wagon - $6,450


Hard to find a teenage diesel with 80k miles.

On 2021-01-18 14:31, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

https://tippecanoe.craigslist.org/cto/d/valparaiso-05-volkswagen-jetta-wagon/7261623604.html


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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions





I just looked at Tire Rack. Hankook Kinergy ST and General Altimax  
RT43 in both 175r70-14 and 185R70.


Weren't the originals something like 175R80 or R83?

I did a car search at Tire Rack, for 1984 300D they told me 195/70,  
for 1979 240D they told me 'we don't sell that'. A lot more choices in  
195 than in 185, including the classic Vredestein Sprint (which costs  
more than a 17" Michelin Crossclimate for my mom's Malibu).


Just ordered a couple of wheels and four TPMS for the Malibu, Farm  
Bureau will sell me Firestone WeatherGrip for $149 installed if I  
supply the TPMS. They seem to be pretty high ranked among the Three  
Mountain Snowflake stuff if you care more about snow performance than  
summer performance.



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Re: [MBZ] JUST CHANGED COLOR FROM BLACK TO PURPLE, PINK, BLUE, STEEL FLIP PAINT

2021-01-18 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes

That’s a double D for a double dose of pimpin’ 

Bob R

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> On Jan 18, 2021, at 12:49 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have no words...
> 
> 2009 Mercedes-Benz CLS-Class
> $13,000
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/404539877442231/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined
> 
> 
>   Seller's description
> 
> NO PROBLEMS WITH CAR AT ALL,,JUST CHANGED COLOR FROM BLACK TO 
> PURPLE,PINK,BLUE,STEEL FLIP PAINT.MOTOR AMD TRANSMISSION STRONG. FRONT SEAT 
> HAS TEAR. HEAT AC PERFECT. ONLY SELLING BECAUSE FAMILY GOT BIGGER AND NEED 
> ANOTHER CAR!!!
> See Less
> St George, SC
> Location is approximate
> 
> 
>   Seller Information
> 
> Jervaz'e N Angel Salley
> Joined Facebook in2014
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Re: [MBZ] OT: 2005 Jetta TDI wagon - $6,450

That looks like a good deal.

-D

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Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?

Actually, they had a developer’s API that was coded by a 10 year old that 
allowed some European hackers to access the stored data even after their rights 
got pulled. They were able to download a significant amount of message traffic 
with user names and other identifying data. Interestingly, Parler did not scrub 
metadata on pictures or other such things, so EXIF and other goodies 
identifying the devices and their locations were ripe for the picking, so to 
speak.

-D

> On Jan 18, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The Par ler COE said (on TV last night) that they used AWS servers for 
> development (dumb, IMO) and were unable to download all their codes, etc. 
> before Amazon pulled the plug.  Bad on Amazon but Par lor should have had 
> safe backups.  I have multiple local and cloud backups for even for my little 
> church site.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 2:42 PM
> To: Okie Benz 
> Cc: Dan Penoff 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?
> 
> Not to pick nits, but Parlor wasn’t “banned” from Amazon Web Services (AWS), 
> they were “de-platformed”. That’s essentially when your (cloud) service 
> provider turns off the switch. Amazon said they violated their terms of 
> service, so they turned it off.
> 
> Same results, though.
> 
> They’re back, as in they now have a hosting provider who is hosting their 
> domain, but that’s a far cry from having a web service provider. You can have 
> all the domains you want, but if there’s nowhere to host your content, you’re 
> pretty much SOL.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't use either one (I'm not on social media at all, actually) but 
>> the pitch for Signal is secure end-to-end encryption. I thought it was 
>> mostly a competitor to SMS or iMessage or other direct message apps. 
>> Maybe it has a "follow" feature like Twitter? Don't know.
>> 
>> Parler appears to have some issues on the technical side, from what 
>> I've read. Some clues that their programmers were not very experienced 
>> or well-educated in secure programming practices (things like using a 
>> simple sequential number for message IDs, which makes them easy to 
>> guess). Their main selling point is/was free speech, not so much 
>> secrecy or privacy. They didn't seem very prepared for being suddenly 
>> banned from Amazon services, which is maybe understandable but when 
>> you use cloud providers you should always have a tested plan "B" in 
>> case you need it. Services like Google and Amazon are known to ban 
>> accounts for no discernable reason, and talking to a real person to 
>> get it sorted out is near-impossible.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:
>> 
>>> I drive firmly down the middle of the road but these apps seem 
>>> interesting given all the hoo-rah these days over FB and Tweeter and 
>>> whatnot and data privacy and such.  I don't know Parler so that is 
>>> not something I have used.
>>> 
>>> https://signal.org/en/
>>> 
>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/technology/telegram-signal-apps-bi
>>> g-tech.html
>>> 
>>> Keep the conversation technical please, I don't care what your 
>>> politics are in regards to the issues of data privacy, etc.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

2021-01-18 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes




I was just thinking about my upcoming trip from Okie Acres to Memphis in the 
240D. I’m not sure about condition of tires so I imagine I will replace the 
tires later if needed. I was checking and the original size is 175/70/14.  
Apparently that size doesn’t exist anymore and most people are using 185-70-14 
which is pretty close to the original.

Anybody have recommendations for tires in this size that you all have used on a 
123?

As far as the OT Truck question, I have a 2019 Chevy Silverado that I bought 
back in May. It has 10,000 miles now. I have noticed that if it is raining (or 
even just slightly wet), the tires will spin when trying to take off from a 
stop.  I wondered if this was just because it was a truck with no weight in the 
bed. BUT, I was just reading reviews of these tires (Goodyear Fortitude HT) and 
LOTS of people complain about wet traction.

Anybody have a full size truck/SUV and really like the tires they have? Or have 
experience with others to avoid?  The truck is 2WD and weather in Memphis is 
pretty mild (except in the summer!).

Donald H. Snook


Do you just have a heavy foot? My F150 will spin the wheels when it is 
wet if I step on it hard but I generally don't have an issue when I pull 
away from a light. Don't recall what tires are on it but will look.


RB


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Re: [MBZ] Light green -- 1978 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D Sedan 4D, $2, 100

I see a lot of sellers get confused by choices on descriptions, it might 
be the FB interface for posting stuff, or they are just sloppy or not 
particularly strong in their computer skills


--FT

On 1/18/21 3:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
Interior is supposedly black.  No photos of the rear seat.  Any rust?  
Could be catfishing.


On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 3:31 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


The market there is probably not particularly strong

--FT

On 1/18/21 3:23 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> Holy crap, aside from that seat somebody needs to jump on that.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 1:52 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>
>> That’s a BaT flip, or Cars and Bids if you don’t want to wait
the 2+ months to get on BaT.
>>
>> If that were closer I would jump on it.
>>
>> -D
>>
>>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This looks like a really good deal, car is mostly very nice,
needs driver seat bottom
>>>
>>>

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3954949237876616/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined


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Re: [MBZ] Light green -- 1978 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D Sedan 4D, $2, 100

Interior is supposedly black.  No photos of the rear seat.  Any rust?
Could be catfishing.

On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 3:31 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The market there is probably not particularly strong
>
> --FT
>
> On 1/18/21 3:23 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> > Holy crap, aside from that seat somebody needs to jump on that.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jan 18, 2021, at 1:52 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> That’s a BaT flip, or Cars and Bids if you don’t want to wait the 2+
> months to get on BaT.
> >>
> >> If that were closer I would jump on it.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> This looks like a really good deal, car is mostly very nice, needs
> driver seat bottom
> >>>
> >>>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3954949237876616/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

2021-01-18 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes

Trying to back up uphill is the worst (in empty pickup).  Once (spinning
rear wheel on pine needles) I thought I would need the tractor to retrieve
the truck.  Ever since, I park pointed uphill if traction is iffy.  I bought
a used Torsen differential but haven't installed yet.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Allan Streib via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 10:42 AM
To: Don Snook via Mercedes 
Cc: Allan Streib 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

Don Snook via Mercedes  writes:

> As far as the OT Truck question, I have a 2019 Chevy Silverado that I 
> bought back in May. It has 10,000 miles now. I have noticed that if it 
> is raining (or even just slightly wet), the tires will spin when 
> trying to take off from a stop.  I wondered if this was just because 
> it was a truck with no weight in the bed. BUT, I was just reading 
> reviews of these tires (Goodyear Fortitude HT) and LOTS of people 
> complain about wet traction.

I have had the same issue in all the trucks I've ever owned, especially
starting on an uphill. Only thing that really avoided it was weight in the
bed. The tires might make a bit of difference, but probably won't be a
cure-all.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?

 Thats extraordinarily lame. I can't imagine trusting any cloud provider at 
that level.
-Curt

On Monday, January 18, 2021, 3:27:16 PM EST, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 The Par ler COE said (on TV last night) that they used AWS servers for 
development (dumb, IMO) and were unable to download all their codes, etc. 
before Amazon pulled the plug.  Bad on Amazon but Par lor should have had safe 
backups.  I have multiple local and cloud backups for even for my little church 
site.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 2:42 PM
To: Okie Benz 
Cc: Dan Penoff 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?

Not to pick nits, but Parlor wasn’t “banned” from Amazon Web Services (AWS), 
they were “de-platformed”. That’s essentially when your (cloud) service 
provider turns off the switch. Amazon said they violated their terms of 
service, so they turned it off.

Same results, though.

They’re back, as in they now have a hosting provider who is hosting their 
domain, but that’s a far cry from having a web service provider. You can have 
all the domains you want, but if there’s nowhere to host your content, you’re 
pretty much SOL.

-D

> On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don't use either one (I'm not on social media at all, actually) but 
> the pitch for Signal is secure end-to-end encryption. I thought it was 
> mostly a competitor to SMS or iMessage or other direct message apps. 
> Maybe it has a "follow" feature like Twitter? Don't know.
> 
> Parler appears to have some issues on the technical side, from what 
> I've read. Some clues that their programmers were not very experienced 
> or well-educated in secure programming practices (things like using a 
> simple sequential number for message IDs, which makes them easy to 
> guess). Their main selling point is/was free speech, not so much 
> secrecy or privacy. They didn't seem very prepared for being suddenly 
> banned from Amazon services, which is maybe understandable but when 
> you use cloud providers you should always have a tested plan "B" in 
> case you need it. Services like Google and Amazon are known to ban 
> accounts for no discernable reason, and talking to a real person to 
> get it sorted out is near-impossible.
> 
> Allan
> 
> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> I drive firmly down the middle of the road but these apps seem 
>> interesting given all the hoo-rah these days over FB and Tweeter and 
>> whatnot and data privacy and such.  I don't know Parler so that is 
>> not something I have used.
>> 
>> https://signal.org/en/
>> 
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/technology/telegram-signal-apps-bi
>> g-tech.html
>> 
>> Keep the conversation technical please, I don't care what your 
>> politics are in regards to the issues of data privacy, etc.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

 The traction control of modern trucks is nothing short of amazing. Combined 
with a limited slip my Dodge rarely breaks traction on pavement.
-Curt

On Monday, January 18, 2021, 10:43:02 AM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Don Snook via Mercedes  writes:

> As far as the OT Truck question, I have a 2019 Chevy Silverado that I
> bought back in May. It has 10,000 miles now. I have noticed that if it
> is raining (or even just slightly wet), the tires will spin when
> trying to take off from a stop.  I wondered if this was just because
> it was a truck with no weight in the bed. BUT, I was just reading
> reviews of these tires (Goodyear Fortitude HT) and LOTS of people
> complain about wet traction.

I have had the same issue in all the trucks I've ever owned, especially
starting on an uphill. Only thing that really avoided it was weight in
the bed. The tires might make a bit of difference, but probably won't be
a cure-all.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

 For truck tires I can't say enough good about General Grabbers. I just got our 
second set, these are the A/TX, previous were AT2. Both carry the mountain 
(snow rated) symbol and are excellent offroad and on.
The A/TX are much quieter than the AT2 although they'd be loud compared to a 
car tire.
They're quite aggressive but last well, the AT2s went 45 or 50,000. Would have 
gone longer but I think I might have missed a rotation interval. We had them 
for just over 4 years. Not terribly expensive either.
-Curt

On Monday, January 18, 2021, 9:06:34 AM EST, Don Snook via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I was just thinking about my upcoming trip from Okie Acres to Memphis in the 
240D. I’m not sure about condition of tires so I imagine I will replace the 
tires later if needed. I was checking and the original size is 175/70/14.  
Apparently that size doesn’t exist anymore and most people are using 185-70-14 
which is pretty close to the original. 

Anybody have recommendations for tires in this size that you all have used on a 
123? 

As far as the OT Truck question, I have a 2019 Chevy Silverado that I bought 
back in May. It has 10,000 miles now. I have noticed that if it is raining (or 
even just slightly wet), the tires will spin when trying to take off from a 
stop.  I wondered if this was just because it was a truck with no weight in the 
bed. BUT, I was just reading reviews of these tires (Goodyear Fortitude HT) and 
LOTS of people complain about wet traction. 

Anybody have a full size truck/SUV and really like the tires they have? Or have 
experience with others to avoid?  The truck is 2WD and weather in Memphis is 
pretty mild (except in the summer!).  

Donald H. Snook
FedEx Freight 
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[MBZ] OT: 2005 Jetta TDI wagon - $6,450



https://tippecanoe.craigslist.org/cto/d/valparaiso-05-volkswagen-jetta-wagon/7261623604.html

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Re: [MBZ] Light green -- 1978 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D Sedan 4D, $2, 100


The market there is probably not particularly strong

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On 1/18/21 3:23 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Holy crap, aside from that seat somebody needs to jump on that.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 18, 2021, at 1:52 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

That’s a BaT flip, or Cars and Bids if you don’t want to wait the 2+ months to 
get on BaT.

If that were closer I would jump on it.

-D


On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

This looks like a really good deal, car is mostly very nice, needs driver seat 
bottom

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3954949237876616/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined

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Re: [MBZ] Light green -- 1978 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D Sedan 4D, $2, 100

About 12 hours from me. H

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> On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:19 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I looked up the location - pretty much dead nuts in the middle of deep 
> Appalachia. Between Knoxville and Johnson City.
> 
> Bummer.
> 
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> 
>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> yeah it would be 5-6hr drive, and getting there any other way would be 
>> troublesome.  It would probably drive home though.
>> 
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>> 
 On 1/18/21 2:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> That’s a BaT flip, or Cars and Bids if you don’t want to wait the 2+ months 
>>> to get on BaT.
>>> 
>>> If that were closer I would jump on it.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
> On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 This looks like a really good deal, car is mostly very nice, needs driver 
 seat bottom
 
 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3954949237876616/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?

2021-01-18 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes

The Par ler COE said (on TV last night) that they used AWS servers for 
development (dumb, IMO) and were unable to download all their codes, etc. 
before Amazon pulled the plug.  Bad on Amazon but Par lor should have had safe 
backups.  I have multiple local and cloud backups for even for my little church 
site.

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Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 2:42 PM
To: Okie Benz 
Cc: Dan Penoff 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?

Not to pick nits, but Parlor wasn’t “banned” from Amazon Web Services (AWS), 
they were “de-platformed”. That’s essentially when your (cloud) service 
provider turns off the switch. Amazon said they violated their terms of 
service, so they turned it off.

Same results, though.

They’re back, as in they now have a hosting provider who is hosting their 
domain, but that’s a far cry from having a web service provider. You can have 
all the domains you want, but if there’s nowhere to host your content, you’re 
pretty much SOL.

-D

> On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don't use either one (I'm not on social media at all, actually) but 
> the pitch for Signal is secure end-to-end encryption. I thought it was 
> mostly a competitor to SMS or iMessage or other direct message apps. 
> Maybe it has a "follow" feature like Twitter? Don't know.
> 
> Parler appears to have some issues on the technical side, from what 
> I've read. Some clues that their programmers were not very experienced 
> or well-educated in secure programming practices (things like using a 
> simple sequential number for message IDs, which makes them easy to 
> guess). Their main selling point is/was free speech, not so much 
> secrecy or privacy. They didn't seem very prepared for being suddenly 
> banned from Amazon services, which is maybe understandable but when 
> you use cloud providers you should always have a tested plan "B" in 
> case you need it. Services like Google and Amazon are known to ban 
> accounts for no discernable reason, and talking to a real person to 
> get it sorted out is near-impossible.
> 
> Allan
> 
> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> I drive firmly down the middle of the road but these apps seem 
>> interesting given all the hoo-rah these days over FB and Tweeter and 
>> whatnot and data privacy and such.  I don't know Parler so that is 
>> not something I have used.
>> 
>> https://signal.org/en/
>> 
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/technology/telegram-signal-apps-bi
>> g-tech.html
>> 
>> Keep the conversation technical please, I don't care what your 
>> politics are in regards to the issues of data privacy, etc.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Light green -- 1978 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D Sedan 4D, $2, 100

Holy crap, aside from that seat somebody needs to jump on that.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 18, 2021, at 1:52 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> That’s a BaT flip, or Cars and Bids if you don’t want to wait the 2+ months 
> to get on BaT.
> 
> If that were closer I would jump on it.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> This looks like a really good deal, car is mostly very nice, needs driver 
>> seat bottom
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3954949237876616/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Light green -- 1978 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D Sedan 4D, $2, 100

I looked up the location - pretty much dead nuts in the middle of deep 
Appalachia. Between Knoxville and Johnson City.

Bummer.

-D

> On Jan 18, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> yeah it would be 5-6hr drive, and getting there any other way would be 
> troublesome.  It would probably drive home though.
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 1/18/21 2:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> That’s a BaT flip, or Cars and Bids if you don’t want to wait the 2+ months 
>> to get on BaT.
>> 
>> If that were closer I would jump on it.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This looks like a really good deal, car is mostly very nice, needs driver 
>>> seat bottom
>>> 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3954949237876616/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined
>>> 
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[MBZ] Complete idiot 1992 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 SD, $20, 000


It's an SL of some sort

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2478386289130999/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined

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[MBZ] OT 1959 Jaguar D-Type, $4, 500 This is a very rear car that will need a full restoration


The car he is trying to sell is a wreck

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Re: [MBZ] 1992 400E - $2,750 "Mint Condition"

might be some kind of plastic guard for rock chips or something, or it 
is covering up some rust.  the 99 E320 wagon I got for my daughter has 
something like (black plastic tape sort of stuff) that on one side, 
looked like the other side peeled off.


--FT

On 1/18/21 3:06 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Looks pretty nice, but wonder about the German flag on the right rear
wheel arch?

https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/indianapolis-mint-condition-1992/7263619400.html

Allan

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[MBZ] 300SDL -- Alright fellas. I’m selling this prime specimen of a Benz. No title


More like $100 but whatever

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Re: [MBZ] Light green -- 1978 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D Sedan 4D, $2, 100

yeah it would be 5-6hr drive, and getting there any other way would be 
troublesome.  It would probably drive home though.


--FT

On 1/18/21 2:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

That’s a BaT flip, or Cars and Bids if you don’t want to wait the 2+ months to 
get on BaT.

If that were closer I would jump on it.

-D


On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

This looks like a really good deal, car is mostly very nice, needs driver seat 
bottom

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3954949237876616/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined

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[MBZ] 1992 400E - $2,750 "Mint Condition"

Looks pretty nice, but wonder about the German flag on the right rear
wheel arch?

https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/indianapolis-mint-condition-1992/7263619400.html

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] DROP THE TOP AND ROLL LOOK & CALL NOW

Yeah 99kmi 1996 and a 320 is not a $8k car maybe $5k on a real good 
day.  A later 500 maybe for that kind of money


--FT

On 1/18/21 2:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/largo-mercedes-sl320-imperial-red-creme/7263980911.html
 


Not bad, really, other than it’s a 320.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Light green -- 1978 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D Sedan 4D, $2, 100

That’s a BaT flip, or Cars and Bids if you don’t want to wait the 2+ months to 
get on BaT.

If that were closer I would jump on it.

-D

> On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> This looks like a really good deal, car is mostly very nice, needs driver 
> seat bottom
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3954949237876616/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined
> 
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[MBZ] This is my 1981 Mercedes 300sd rat rod


The roof racks make the car what it is

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[MBZ] JUST CHANGED COLOR FROM BLACK TO PURPLE, PINK, BLUE, STEEL FLIP PAINT


I have no words...

2009 Mercedes-Benz CLS-Class
$13,000

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/404539877442231/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined


   Seller's description

NO PROBLEMS WITH CAR AT ALL,,JUST CHANGED COLOR FROM BLACK TO 
PURPLE,PINK,BLUE,STEEL FLIP PAINT.MOTOR AMD TRANSMISSION STRONG. FRONT 
SEAT HAS TEAR. HEAT AC PERFECT. ONLY SELLING BECAUSE FAMILY GOT BIGGER 
AND NEED ANOTHER CAR!!!

See Less
St George, SC
Location is approximate


   Seller Information

Jervaz'e N Angel Salley
Joined Facebook in2014

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[MBZ] Light green -- 1978 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D Sedan 4D, $2, 100

This looks like a really good deal, car is mostly very nice, needs 
driver seat bottom


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Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?

Not to pick nits, but Parlor wasn’t “banned” from Amazon Web Services (AWS), 
they were “de-platformed”. That’s essentially when your (cloud) service 
provider turns off the switch. Amazon said they violated their terms of 
service, so they turned it off.

Same results, though.

They’re back, as in they now have a hosting provider who is hosting their 
domain, but that’s a far cry from having a web service provider. You can have 
all the domains you want, but if there’s nowhere to host your content, you’re 
pretty much SOL.

-D

> On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don't use either one (I'm not on social media at all, actually) but
> the pitch for Signal is secure end-to-end encryption. I thought it was
> mostly a competitor to SMS or iMessage or other direct message
> apps. Maybe it has a "follow" feature like Twitter? Don't know.
> 
> Parler appears to have some issues on the technical side, from what I've
> read. Some clues that their programmers were not very experienced or
> well-educated in secure programming practices (things like using a
> simple sequential number for message IDs, which makes them easy to
> guess). Their main selling point is/was free speech, not so much secrecy
> or privacy. They didn't seem very prepared for being suddenly banned
> from Amazon services, which is maybe understandable but when you use
> cloud providers you should always have a tested plan "B" in case you
> need it. Services like Google and Amazon are known to ban accounts for
> no discernable reason, and talking to a real person to get it sorted out
> is near-impossible.
> 
> Allan
> 
> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> I drive firmly down the middle of the road but these apps seem 
>> interesting given all the hoo-rah these days over FB and Tweeter and 
>> whatnot and data privacy and such.  I don't know Parler so that is not 
>> something I have used.
>> 
>> https://signal.org/en/
>> 
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/technology/telegram-signal-apps-big-tech.html
>> 
>> Keep the conversation technical please, I don't care what your politics 
>> are in regards to the issues of data privacy, etc.
>> 
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[MBZ] DROP THE TOP AND ROLL LOOK & CALL NOW

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/largo-mercedes-sl320-imperial-red-creme/7263980911.html
 


Not bad, really, other than it’s a 320.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?

I don't use either one (I'm not on social media at all, actually) but
the pitch for Signal is secure end-to-end encryption. I thought it was
mostly a competitor to SMS or iMessage or other direct message
apps. Maybe it has a "follow" feature like Twitter? Don't know.

Parler appears to have some issues on the technical side, from what I've
read. Some clues that their programmers were not very experienced or
well-educated in secure programming practices (things like using a
simple sequential number for message IDs, which makes them easy to
guess). Their main selling point is/was free speech, not so much secrecy
or privacy. They didn't seem very prepared for being suddenly banned
from Amazon services, which is maybe understandable but when you use
cloud providers you should always have a tested plan "B" in case you
need it. Services like Google and Amazon are known to ban accounts for
no discernable reason, and talking to a real person to get it sorted out
is near-impossible.

Allan

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:

> I drive firmly down the middle of the road but these apps seem 
> interesting given all the hoo-rah these days over FB and Tweeter and 
> whatnot and data privacy and such.  I don't know Parler so that is not 
> something I have used.
>
> https://signal.org/en/
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/technology/telegram-signal-apps-big-tech.html
>
> Keep the conversation technical please, I don't care what your politics 
> are in regards to the issues of data privacy, etc.
>

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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

I think it's mostly that there's no weight (relatively speaking) over
the rear wheels. Also the way pickup trucks are geared. Good for
pulling, not so good for starting on a slippery surface.

In my Frontier I can control it by slipping the clutch (which I don't
really like to do more than necessary) or starting in 2nd gear.

In general, every truck I've ever owned handled and felt better with
about 500lbs in the bed.

Allan

Jim Cathey via Mercedes  writes:

>> raining (or even just slightly wet), the tires will spin when trying to take 
>> off from a stop.
>
> I wonder if it's due to the wretched 'modern' tendency, especially of GM (?), 
> to have a very
> sudden throttle onset, which I'm inclined to believe is intended to trick the 
> buyer into thinking
> the vehicle has a lot of power.  (To me it's just a dismaying lack of 
> control-ability.)
>
> -- Jim

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Re: [MBZ] The rear left wheel barron needs to be replaced 2004 Mercedes Benz S500 - $3, 000

2021-01-18 Thread Craig via Mercedes

On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 10:33:51 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/statesville-2004-mercedes-benz-s500/7263255875.html

And what, pray tell, is te rear left wheel barron?

Does the thing have adaptive suspension?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 1987 Mercedes Benz 560 SL - $24,900 (Fleming Island)

*Only thing that could overcome this would be a stunning provenance*

Such as if you were a previous owner?

On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 11:17 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> Price is a bit high with the miles. Only thing that could overcome this
> would be a stunning provenance.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Gorgeous car, looks almost new
> >
> >
> https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/orange-park-1987-mercedes-benz-560-sl/7263508187.html
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 1986 Mercedes SE 350 - $4,500 (Matthews)

Brown?  Where's the trunk photo showing the badge?

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> This looks nice, whatever it is
>
>
> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/matthews-1986-mercedes-se-350/7263690002.html
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1993 Mercedes-Benz 400E (W124)

I told the seller I wouldn't pay a nickel under $10k.

On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 11:06 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Have you bought it yet?
>
> --FT
>
> On 1/17/21 10:35 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes wrote:
> > -- Forwarded message -
> > From: 
> > Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 7:38 PM
> > Subject: 1993 Mercedes-Benz 400E (W124)
> > To: 
> >
> >
> > fredy4.s...@yahoo.com forwarded you this from craigslist:
> > --
> > 1993 Mercedes-Benz 400E (W124)
> >
> >
> https://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/pts/d/milford-1993-mercedes-benz-400e-w124/7262732628.html
> > --
> >
> > *Please go to the preferences page
> > <
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Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?

Correct.

-D

> On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Signal was/is considered a major threat to intelligence collection in the NSA 
> and CIA. There are direct references to this in a number of the slide decks 
> that Snowden exposed, and the FBI in particular has continued to clutch it’s 
> pearls to Congress and the DOJ over it’s use by private citizens. It’s open 
> source and not funded by any government agency. Working in the industry I can 
> assure you that if I wanted 100% end to end encrypted messaging I would be 
> using it.
> 
> And that’s all I’m going to say about it.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> interesting.  I am trying to overthrow Johns Island but I don't know who to 
>> throw over yet.  I probably need to buy a boat first though.  Maybe I should 
>> get to know this guy
>> 
>> https://www.postandcourier.com/news/the-navys-uss-high-point-was-abandoned-a-charleston-man-hopes-to-bring-it-back/article_9ed6c200-55c1-11eb-9b26-ab25366b15d3.html
>> 
>> 
>> The Navy’s USS High Point was abandoned. A Charleston man hopes to
>> bring it back to life.
>> 
>> But we might need a bigger boat
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> On 1/18/21 11:35 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Signal was developed by a CIA contractor so big brother can keep tabs on
>>> you while you think you've got an encrypted communication channel.  I guess
>>> that may be better than google / apple / fakebook / borg having control
>>> over your data and selling it for a profit.  Just don't use it to plot the
>>> next overthrow of the banana republic.
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 11:28 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 I drive firmly down the middle of the road but these apps seem
 interesting given all the hoo-rah these days over FB and Tweeter and
 whatnot and data privacy and such.  I don't know Parler so that is not
 something I have used.
 
 https://signal.org/en/
 
 
 https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/technology/telegram-signal-apps-big-tech.html
 
 Keep the conversation technical please, I don't care what your politics
 are in regards to the issues of data privacy, etc.
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT:Medical Alert devices

2021-01-18 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes

I've used a Great Call Lively Mobile for a number of years. $50 for the unil 
and then $17/month for the service. Before Great Call came on the scene I used 
a different companies unit that required a base station. It was easy to get out 
of range of the base station which which had a limited range.
The Great Call Lively Mobile needs no base station. The pocket units range is 
anywhere in the U.S.
except for a few areas where cell phones won't work. The service has been good 
and there is one button to push in order to talk to the operator at Great Call.
There may be other units similar to Great Call or your Mom may be happy happy 
with a base station unit if she stays in the house 24/7.
Good luck,
Gerry

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> Or, I've fallen and I can't get up!
> 
> Looking into getting one of these for my mom.
> Any experience with these things, especially Medical Guardian or 
> GreatCall?
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Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?

2021-01-18 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes

To get the encryption, both parties have to download the app.

On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 8:56 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Signal was/is considered a major threat to intelligence collection in the
> NSA and CIA. There are direct references to this in a number of the slide
> decks that Snowden exposed, and the FBI in particular has continued to
> clutch it’s pearls to Congress and the DOJ over it’s use by private
> citizens. It’s open source and not funded by any government agency. Working
> in the industry I can assure you that if I wanted 100% end to end encrypted
> messaging I would be using it.
>
> And that’s all I’m going to say about it.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > interesting.  I am trying to overthrow Johns Island but I don't know who
> to throw over yet.  I probably need to buy a boat first though.  Maybe I
> should get to know this guy
> >
> >
> https://www.postandcourier.com/news/the-navys-uss-high-point-was-abandoned-a-charleston-man-hopes-to-bring-it-back/article_9ed6c200-55c1-11eb-9b26-ab25366b15d3.html
> >
> >
> > The Navy’s USS High Point was abandoned. A Charleston man hopes to
> > bring it back to life.
> >
> > But we might need a bigger boat
> >
> > --FT
> >
> > On 1/18/21 11:35 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Signal was developed by a CIA contractor so big brother can keep tabs on
> >> you while you think you've got an encrypted communication channel.  I
> guess
> >> that may be better than google / apple / fakebook / borg having control
> >> over your data and selling it for a profit.  Just don't use it to plot
> the
> >> next overthrow of the banana republic.
> >> -
> >> Max
> >> Charleston SC
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 11:28 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I drive firmly down the middle of the road but these apps seem
> >>> interesting given all the hoo-rah these days over FB and Tweeter and
> >>> whatnot and data privacy and such.  I don't know Parler so that is not
> >>> something I have used.
> >>>
> >>> https://signal.org/en/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/technology/telegram-signal-apps-big-tech.html
> >>>
> >>> Keep the conversation technical please, I don't care what your politics
> >>> are in regards to the issues of data privacy, etc.
> >>>
> >>> --
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Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?

Signal was/is considered a major threat to intelligence collection in the NSA 
and CIA. There are direct references to this in a number of the slide decks 
that Snowden exposed, and the FBI in particular has continued to clutch it’s 
pearls to Congress and the DOJ over it’s use by private citizens. It’s open 
source and not funded by any government agency. Working in the industry I can 
assure you that if I wanted 100% end to end encrypted messaging I would be 
using it.

And that’s all I’m going to say about it.

-D

> On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> interesting.  I am trying to overthrow Johns Island but I don't know who to 
> throw over yet.  I probably need to buy a boat first though.  Maybe I should 
> get to know this guy
> 
> https://www.postandcourier.com/news/the-navys-uss-high-point-was-abandoned-a-charleston-man-hopes-to-bring-it-back/article_9ed6c200-55c1-11eb-9b26-ab25366b15d3.html
> 
> 
> The Navy’s USS High Point was abandoned. A Charleston man hopes to
> bring it back to life.
> 
> But we might need a bigger boat
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 1/18/21 11:35 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> Signal was developed by a CIA contractor so big brother can keep tabs on
>> you while you think you've got an encrypted communication channel.  I guess
>> that may be better than google / apple / fakebook / borg having control
>> over your data and selling it for a profit.  Just don't use it to plot the
>> next overthrow of the banana republic.
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 11:28 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I drive firmly down the middle of the road but these apps seem
>>> interesting given all the hoo-rah these days over FB and Tweeter and
>>> whatnot and data privacy and such.  I don't know Parler so that is not
>>> something I have used.
>>> 
>>> https://signal.org/en/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/technology/telegram-signal-apps-big-tech.html
>>> 
>>> Keep the conversation technical please, I don't care what your politics
>>> are in regards to the issues of data privacy, etc.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

I got some Kumhos for the 210 E300 I smashed. Inexpensive but generally
get good reviews. Seemed like decent tires. You could probably get a
set mounted for like $300 or a bit more. I had a $75 MIR I got from
somewhere when I got mine, they shipped them to a tire store, I took the
old wheels over and they swapped them. I can't remember where I got
them, TireRack maybe? But El Mercado de Wal sell them too

https://www.speedytire.com/tires/kumho/solus-ta11/185-70r14-2182603?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIpdCPpPil7gIVQ_7jBx1bawDNEAQYAyABEgJB4vD_BwE

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On 1/18/21 9:05 AM, Don Snook via Mercedes wrote:

I was just thinking about my upcoming trip from Okie Acres to Memphis in the
240D. I’m not sure about condition of tires so I imagine I will replace the
tires later if needed. I was checking and the original size is 175/70/14.
Apparently that size doesn’t exist anymore and most people are using 185-70-14
which is pretty close to the original.

Anybody have recommendations for tires in this size that you all have used on a
123?

As far as the OT Truck question, I have a 2019 Chevy Silverado that I bought
back in May. It has 10,000 miles now. I have noticed that if it is raining (or
even just slightly wet), the tires will spin when trying to take off from a
stop. I wondered if this was just because it was a truck with no weight in the
bed. BUT, I was just reading reviews of these tires (Goodyear Fortitude HT) and
LOTS of people complain about wet traction.

Anybody have a full size truck/SUV and really like the tires they have? Or have
experience with others to avoid? The truck is 2WD and weather in Memphis is
pretty mild (except in the summer!).

Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?

interesting.  I am trying to overthrow Johns Island but I don't know who 
to throw over yet.  I probably need to buy a boat first though.  Maybe I 
should get to know this guy


https://www.postandcourier.com/news/the-navys-uss-high-point-was-abandoned-a-charleston-man-hopes-to-bring-it-back/article_9ed6c200-55c1-11eb-9b26-ab25366b15d3.html


 The Navy’s USS High Point was abandoned. A Charleston man hopes to
 bring it back to life.

But we might need a bigger boat

--FT

On 1/18/21 11:35 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Signal was developed by a CIA contractor so big brother can keep tabs on
you while you think you've got an encrypted communication channel.  I guess
that may be better than google / apple / fakebook / borg having control
over your data and selling it for a profit.  Just don't use it to plot the
next overthrow of the banana republic.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 11:28 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I drive firmly down the middle of the road but these apps seem
interesting given all the hoo-rah these days over FB and Tweeter and
whatnot and data privacy and such.  I don't know Parler so that is not
something I have used.

https://signal.org/en/


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/technology/telegram-signal-apps-big-tech.html

Keep the conversation technical please, I don't care what your politics
are in regards to the issues of data privacy, etc.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?

2021-01-18 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes

https://weehingthong.org/2021/01/16/signal-is-a-us-govt-operation-having-been-created-and-fund-by-a-cia-spin-off-is-it-true/

It's written on the internet, so it must be true.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 11:35 AM Meade Dillon  wrote:

> Signal was developed by a CIA contractor so big brother can keep tabs on
> you while you think you've got an encrypted communication channel.  I guess
> that may be better than google / apple / fakebook / borg having control
> over your data and selling it for a profit.  Just don't use it to plot the
> next overthrow of the banana republic.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 11:28 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> I drive firmly down the middle of the road but these apps seem
>> interesting given all the hoo-rah these days over FB and Tweeter and
>> whatnot and data privacy and such.  I don't know Parler so that is not
>> something I have used.
>>
>> https://signal.org/en/
>>
>>
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/technology/telegram-signal-apps-big-tech.html
>>
>> Keep the conversation technical please, I don't care what your politics
>> are in regards to the issues of data privacy, etc.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?

2021-01-18 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes

Signal is what the military is requiring all active duty people to use, if
that is any indication.

This article from Forbes details the metadata collected by Messenger,
WhatsApp and Signal.

https://flip.it/n0jk-l

On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 8:28 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I drive firmly down the middle of the road but these apps seem
> interesting given all the hoo-rah these days over FB and Tweeter and
> whatnot and data privacy and such.  I don't know Parler so that is not
> something I have used.
>
> https://signal.org/en/
>
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/technology/telegram-signal-apps-big-tech.html
>
> Keep the conversation technical please, I don't care what your politics
> are in regards to the issues of data privacy, etc.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?

2021-01-18 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes

Signal was developed by a CIA contractor so big brother can keep tabs on
you while you think you've got an encrypted communication channel.  I guess
that may be better than google / apple / fakebook / borg having control
over your data and selling it for a profit.  Just don't use it to plot the
next overthrow of the banana republic.
-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 11:28 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I drive firmly down the middle of the road but these apps seem
> interesting given all the hoo-rah these days over FB and Tweeter and
> whatnot and data privacy and such.  I don't know Parler so that is not
> something I have used.
>
> https://signal.org/en/
>
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/technology/telegram-signal-apps-big-tech.html
>
> Keep the conversation technical please, I don't care what your politics
> are in regards to the issues of data privacy, etc.
>
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[MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?

I drive firmly down the middle of the road but these apps seem 
interesting given all the hoo-rah these days over FB and Tweeter and 
whatnot and data privacy and such.  I don't know Parler so that is not 
something I have used.


https://signal.org/en/

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/technology/telegram-signal-apps-big-tech.html

Keep the conversation technical please, I don't care what your politics 
are in regards to the issues of data privacy, etc.


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Re: [MBZ] 1987 Mercedes Benz 560 SL - $24,900 (Fleming Island)

Price is a bit high with the miles. Only thing that could overcome this would 
be a stunning provenance.

-D

> On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> 
> Gorgeous car, looks almost new
> 
> https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/orange-park-1987-mercedes-benz-560-sl/7263508187.html
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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

Wife's Mazda 6 was like that. Feather on the throttle and you were zoom-zooming 
big time. I hated it. So did the boys. As Mrs. Dan is a believer in binary 
throttle control, she loved it.

-D

> On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:07 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> raining (or even just slightly wet), the tires will spin when trying to take 
>> off from a stop.
> 
> I wonder if it's due to the wretched 'modern' tendency, especially of GM (?), 
> to have a very
> sudden throttle onset, which I'm inclined to believe is intended to trick the 
> buyer into thinking
> the vehicle has a lot of power.  (To me it's just a dismaying lack of 
> control-ability.)
> 
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[MBZ] 1987 Mercedes Benz 560 SL - $24,900 (Fleming Island)


Gorgeous car, looks almost new

https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/orange-park-1987-mercedes-benz-560-sl/7263508187.html

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[MBZ] 1986 Mercedes SE 350 - $4,500 (Matthews)


This looks nice, whatever it is

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/matthews-1986-mercedes-se-350/7263690002.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT:Medical Alert devices

2021-01-18 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

A thing to look into, for some, is an Apple watch.
Fall detection is apparently built in to those, but I
don't know what it would take on the service side.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] I also still have the white gloves for tire changes AMG CLK 55 Mercedes Benz - $10, 000 (Kingsland)


Cat delete and straight pipes, top down would be an awesome ride

https://brunswick.craigslist.org/cto/d/kingsland-amg-clk-55-mercedes-benz/7263833743.html



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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

2021-01-18 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

> raining (or even just slightly wet), the tires will spin when trying to take 
> off from a stop.

I wonder if it's due to the wretched 'modern' tendency, especially of GM (?), 
to have a very
sudden throttle onset, which I'm inclined to believe is intended to trick the 
buyer into thinking
the vehicle has a lot of power.  (To me it's just a dismaying lack of 
control-ability.)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1993 Mercedes-Benz 400E (W124)


Have you bought it yet?

--FT

On 1/17/21 10:35 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes wrote:

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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

Don Snook via Mercedes  writes:

> As far as the OT Truck question, I have a 2019 Chevy Silverado that I
> bought back in May. It has 10,000 miles now. I have noticed that if it
> is raining (or even just slightly wet), the tires will spin when
> trying to take off from a stop.  I wondered if this was just because
> it was a truck with no weight in the bed. BUT, I was just reading
> reviews of these tires (Goodyear Fortitude HT) and LOTS of people
> complain about wet traction.

I have had the same issue in all the trucks I've ever owned, especially
starting on an uphill. Only thing that really avoided it was weight in
the bed. The tires might make a bit of difference, but probably won't be
a cure-all.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs to buy this

Is he a councilor or counsellor?

On Mon, Jan 18, 2021, 12:29 AM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Welcome back! It can be fun to drive a slow car fast --- how often can you
> floor a car, get it's maximum performance and not worry about breaking the
> law?
>
> How is Memphis treating you?
>
> On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 9:37 PM Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Mitch wrote:
> >
> > “240D?”
> >
> > Max wrote:
> > >
> > > “Did you low ball Kaleb?  Send a cashier's check for twice the price
> and
> > get the refund by wire transfer?”
> >
> > Dwight wrote:
> >
> > “Congratulations councillor Snook. I really thought about that 240D.
> Great
> > buy  & welcome back”
> >
> > FT wrote:
> >
> > “Seller has 1/2 star rating. Run away.”
> >
> > We made a good deal. And I get to visit OkieAcres!  It’s like a trip to
> > Mecca (or Stuttgart West).
> >
> > Yes, it’s a 240D. I knew they were slow. But, 70 HP? 0-60 in 20 seconds.
> > I’ll have a chance to do some Italian tune-ups on the way from OkieAcres
> to
> > Memphis.  I’m very happy the heat works. I have bought a few cars in the
> > summer without working a/C.  So, this will be a treat.
> >
> >
> > Donald H. Snook
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 17, 2021, at 8:38 PM, Max Dillon  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > Max Dillon
> > > Charleston SC
> > >
> > >
> > > Jan 17, 2021 9:05:19 PM Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > >:
> > >
> > >> I’m glad Rick posted this on the Facebook group!  Kaleb and I made a
> > deal!
> > >> I’m back in the fold with a diesel Mercedes and it’s a manual!
> > >> Donald H. Snook
> >  On Jan 17, 2021, at 3:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin 
> > wrote:
> > >>> Who wants to post it to the 123 fakebook group?
> > >>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1147685862317970/
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> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
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> Wernher
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> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1993 Mercedes-Benz 400E (W124)

. I remember being shocked at the High sticker price 4400 series car that
was not an S-class

On Mon, Jan 18, 2021, 9:15 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> By 'in the 70s', I meant $70-80k.
> If Andrew was shopping 400E at 70K, either the 500E was a relative
> bargain or I misremembered the MSRP on the 500E
>
> Quoting Dan Penoff via Mercedes :
>
> > You’re thinking 500SEL as in W126.
> >
> > The W124 500E was built from 1991 through 1195,
>
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1993 Mercedes-Benz 400E (W124)


By 'in the 70s', I meant $70-80k.
If Andrew was shopping 400E at 70K, either the 500E was a relative  
bargain or I misremembered the MSRP on the 500E


Quoting Dan Penoff via Mercedes :


You’re thinking 500SEL as in W126.

The W124 500E was built from 1991 through 1195,





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[MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

2021-01-18 Thread Don Snook via Mercedes

I was just thinking about my upcoming trip from Okie Acres to Memphis in the 
240D. I’m not sure about condition of tires so I imagine I will replace the 
tires later if needed. I was checking and the original size is 175/70/14.  
Apparently that size doesn’t exist anymore and most people are using 185-70-14 
which is pretty close to the original. 

Anybody have recommendations for tires in this size that you all have used on a 
123? 

As far as the OT Truck question, I have a 2019 Chevy Silverado that I bought 
back in May. It has 10,000 miles now. I have noticed that if it is raining (or 
even just slightly wet), the tires will spin when trying to take off from a 
stop.  I wondered if this was just because it was a truck with no weight in the 
bed. BUT, I was just reading reviews of these tires (Goodyear Fortitude HT) and 
LOTS of people complain about wet traction. 

Anybody have a full size truck/SUV and really like the tires they have? Or have 
experience with others to avoid?  The truck is 2WD and weather in Memphis is 
pretty mild (except in the summer!).  

Donald H. Snook
FedEx Freight 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1993 Mercedes-Benz 400E (W124)

You’re thinking 500SEL as in W126.

The W124 500E was built from 1991 through 1195, I believe. Porsche was involved 
in some of the design and assembly, in fact, the cars were finished at the 
Porsche factory. M119 5.0 liter engine, SLS, different suspension and fenders 
were flared out. There may have been other things but that’s the main 
take-aways.

-D

> On Jan 18, 2021, at 8:48 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I thought the 500E was in the 70s.
> What was the price difference between 400 and 500?
> A lot more effort went into building the 500E.
> 
> 
> Quoting Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes :
> 
>> I was over at HBL (dealership) in Tysons Corner, VA back in the early 90s.
>> They had a 400E on the lot.  Sticker price was $70k.  Glad I waited until
>> now to get one.
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1993 Mercedes-Benz 400E (W124)


I thought the 500E was in the 70s.
What was the price difference between 400 and 500?
A lot more effort went into building the 500E.


Quoting Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes :


I was over at HBL (dealership) in Tysons Corner, VA back in the early 90s.
They had a 400E on the lot.  Sticker price was $70k.  Glad I waited until
now to get one.




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Re: [MBZ] OT:Medical Alert devices