Re: [MBZ] I have become one with the crack....

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

If it was from ADSIT, that is quite possible. He would have also gotten a free 
dose of verbal abuse as well.

-D

> On May 1, 2017, at 6:24 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I like that he got himself an Adsit transmission and says it has not been 
> driven since.  Does that mean it does not drive anymore?
> 
> clay
> 
> 
>> On May 1, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Dig the custom AC system!
>> 
>> https://ocala.craigslist.org/cto/6112983163.html 
>> 
>> 
>> Meth head from Kyle and Manfred’s neck of the woods.
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Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

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What Floyd said. Both of my 1990 W126 chassis' cars are wired directly to the 
switch.  This I know as I disconnected the motor on my 300SEL in order to 
remove it from the door.

-D

> On May 1, 2017, at 1:33 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> No.  The 84 SDs have that arrangement but this 88 the motor wires are right 
> in the switch block, green and black.  The switch has 3 other wires going 
> into it, I guess power, ground, and power from the front switch.  That was 
> new to me and it made me wonder what they were thinking as it is not "easy" 
> to disconnect them like with the screw terminal or a plug.  Not your general 
> Hun engineer forethought it seemed to me.  The motors looked a bit smaller 
> too, but maybe I misremember.
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 5/1/17 1:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> The wires to the motors should go to a double wiring block deal in the door 
>> with 2 Phillips head screws. Does yours not have this?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 1, 2017, at 11:43 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Since I didn't sget the car started I worked on the LR window, which was 
>>> down and wouldn't move.  Looked like the PO had started to take it apart 
>>> and gave up.  Having considerable experience in windows I got it apart 
>>> right quick and saw a busted plastic slide.  I fortunately had one (2 
>>> actually, I buggered one trying to peen the post) so got the regulator out 
>>> (and for some reason the motors don't have a connector, they are wired 
>>> directly to the switch, and getting the wire off involves taking the switch 
>>> apart, no thanks, so just removed the motor from the regulator) and the 
>>> slide put on, got it put back and window works!  Yay!  Accomplishment for 
>>> the day!
>>> 
>>> I have some cleaning to do, and it is actually pretty clean inside, and 
>>> assuming I get it running, and diagnose the tranny issue and deal with 
>>> that, this is a very nice car, looks to have been pretty well taken care of.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> --FT
>>> Winston Churchill:
>>> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, 
>>> large or petty,
>>> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
>>> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of 
>>> the enemy.”
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Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

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Yes, the W126 window motors are wired directly to the switch. You chose wisely 
by removing the motor in situ.  That's what I had to do when I replaced the 
"sliding jaw" on the LR window regulator on the 300SEL.

-D

> On May 1, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Since I didn't get the car started I worked on the LR window, which was down 
> and wouldn't move.  Looked like the PO had started to take it apart and gave 
> up.  Having considerable experience in windows I got it apart right quick and 
> saw a busted plastic slide.  I fortunately had one (2 actually, I buggered 
> one trying to peen the post) so got the regulator out (and for some reason 
> the motors don't have a connector, they are wired directly to the switch, and 
> getting the wire off involves taking the switch apart, no thanks, so just 
> removed the motor from the regulator) and the slide put on, got it put back 
> and window works!  Yay!  Accomplishment for the day!
> 
> I have some cleaning to do, and it is actually pretty clean inside, and 
> assuming I get it running, and diagnose the tranny issue and deal with that, 
> this is a very nice car, looks to have been pretty well taken care of.
> 
> -- 
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> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large 
> or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
> enemy.”
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Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

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No distributor, it's got COPs (coil on plugs).

-D

> On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:47 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Double check the distributor rotor as well; that's why my 300E wasn't
> running when I got it.
> 
> On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
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> 
>> Thanks all.  I'll dig into the fuel pump relay wiring to see how to power
>> the fuel pumps.
>> 
>> Testing spark will also require some research, it seems.
>> 
>> I think it would be wise to drain the fuel tank and lines of the stale gas
>> and any accumulated water, no?
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Re: [MBZ] Compression test results

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

If it's got COPs, you're probably OK. They're pretty bulletproof and easy to 
troubleshoot if one's not working.  I'm betting on a fuel problem.

-D

> On Apr 29, 2017, at 10:55 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks all.  I'll dig into the fuel pump relay wiring to see how to power the 
> fuel pumps.
> 
> Testing spark will also require some research, it seems.
> 
> I think it would be wise to drain the fuel tank and lines of the stale gas 
> and any accumulated water, no?
> -- 
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Re: [MBZ] Len Sokoloff

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Thanks, everyone. Max helped me track Len down. Thanks, Max!

-D

> On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:55 PM, Craig via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 13:34:53 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Len's domain is no longer active and is owned by someone else.  That's
>> why I know this address is not valid.
> 
> Oh, OK. It's 15 years old.
> 
> I have an address that is 17 years old of: sokol...@nccoast.net
> 
> Maybe do a "whois sokoloff.com" and call the telephone numbers listed?
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
>>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 1:27 PM, Craig via Mercedes
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 10:43:49 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Does anyone have Len's email address? I wanted to ask him something
>>>> and I can't seem to find it in my contact list...
>>> 
>>> Well, in 2002 you send me a message:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Dan Penoff"
>>> To: "Craig"
>>> Cc: "Len Sokoloff" <l...@sokoloff.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 9:54 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Ezi-Bleed
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> At 08:39 PM 6/8/02 -0500, you wrote:
>>>>> How does yours compare with the one Joe Knight mentioned (at
>>>>> http://www.falcotools.com/html/euro_kit.html )?
>>>> 
>>>> That's one of the "fancy" ones like Randy Steele sells. Very nice,
>>>> and would definitely be my choice had I not already had an EziBleed.
>>>> You can get them for around $40 from the maker at:
>>>> 
>>>> ezibl...@aol.com
>>>> 
>>>> I'll check and see who's gotten one recently. I think Len Sokoloff
>>>> did.
>>>> 
>>>> Len? Did you ever get with the EziBleed guy?
>>>> 
>>>> Craig is looking for a pressure bleeder on a budget . .
>>>> 
>>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> I've had my EZBleed for about four or five years, but have been in
>>> touch with the guy within the last few months.  He was prety
>>> responsive and shipped what I needed pretty quickly.  I really like
>>> the EZBleed.  I've never had any of the problems I've heard others
>>> talking about.
>>> 
>>> Len
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Re: [MBZ] Len Sokoloff

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Len's domain is no longer active and is owned by someone else.  That's why I 
know this address is not valid.

-D

> On Apr 27, 2017, at 1:27 PM, Craig via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 10:43:49 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Does anyone have Len's email address? I wanted to ask him something and
>> I can't seem to find it in my contact list...
> 
> Well, in 2002 you send me a message:
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dan Penoff"
> To: "Craig"
> Cc: "Len Sokoloff" <l...@sokoloff.com>
> Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 9:54 PM
> Subject: Re: Ezi-Bleed
> 
> 
>> At 08:39 PM 6/8/02 -0500, you wrote:
>>> How does yours compare with the one Joe Knight mentioned (at
>>> http://www.falcotools.com/html/euro_kit.html )?
>> 
>> That's one of the "fancy" ones like Randy Steele sells. Very nice, and
>> would definitely be my choice had I not already had an EziBleed. You can
>> get them for around $40 from the maker at:
>> 
>> ezibl...@aol.com
>> 
>> I'll check and see who's gotten one recently. I think Len Sokoloff did.
>> 
>> Len? Did you ever get with the EziBleed guy?
>> 
>> Craig is looking for a pressure bleeder on a budget . .
>> 
>> Dan
> 
> I've had my EZBleed for about four or five years, but have been in touch
> with the guy within the last few months.  He was prety responsive and
> shipped what I needed pretty quickly.  I really like the EZBleed.  I've
> never had any of the problems I've heard others talking about.
> 
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[MBZ] Len Sokoloff

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Does anyone have Len's email address? I wanted to ask him something and I can't 
seem to find it in my contact list...

Thanks,

-D

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Re: [MBZ] Find Me a Finnie!

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First and last are not finnies (W110/111/112) but W108 chassis cars. Middle one 
is, but it's been lowered. Ugh.

Thanks for these - keep them coming!

I really won't be ready to buy for another week or two, but it can't hurt to 
see what's out there as it might still be around when I'm ready...

Dan

> On Apr 26, 2017, at 3:01 PM, clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/6027013210.html
> 
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/6086245572.html
> 
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/6094426573.html  - CDN $$
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2017, at 7:44 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The 300SEL is just about complete, so it's time to move on to my next bucket 
>> list car - a Finnie.
>> 
>> I am now actively seeking a W110/111/112 chassis car, gas or diesel, auto or 
>> manual. As with any car I would consider, I'm looking for something with a 
>> solid body, no rust, maybe in need of serious Martha-ing. In other words, 
>> cosmetics over mechanicals.  No project cars, it must be a driver. No museum 
>> pieces, as my budget won't support it.  I don't have an exact budget number 
>> just yet, but it would definitely be under $10k.
>> 
>> Given the choice I would prefer to avoid the W112 due to its complexity and 
>> parts cost/availability.  AC would be icing on the cake but lack of it is by 
>> no means a deal breaker.  
>> 
>> Location is not important, as I will gladly travel for the right car.
>> 
>> So please keep your eyes out for a Finnie!
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Find Me a Finnie!

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No violations as long as the cars are currently registered and operational. 
It's when they're parked and tires go flat that we go after the residents

Dan "Mr. President"

> On Apr 26, 2017, at 1:25 PM, Craig via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 13:14:04 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
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> 
>> A very crowded driveway right now. If these kids would ever move out I
>> would have more space...
> 
> It's fortunate you are on the HOA board ...
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Find Me a Finnie!

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A very crowded driveway right now. If these kids would ever move out I would 
have more space...

I have a two car garage (300D & SL500) a three car wide driveway (1994 S420, 
350SDL, 300SEL) and the street (1998 S420).

The two W126 cars are usually parked end to end in front of the 300D's garage 
so the SL500 can come and go freely. Needless to say it's quite a ballet when I 
need to work on a particular car in the garage.

With the 300SEL coming online soon, either it or the 98 S420 will be departing. 
 I will have room for the Finnie.

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> On Apr 26, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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> 
> +1  You need a place up towards MG.
> 
>> Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>> April 26, 2017 at 10:37 AM
>> 
>> Where do you park all these cars?
>> 
>> Time to move to an acreage like Kleb?
>> 
>> RB
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[MBZ] Find Me a Finnie!

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

The 300SEL is just about complete, so it's time to move on to my next bucket 
list car - a Finnie.

I am now actively seeking a W110/111/112 chassis car, gas or diesel, auto or 
manual. As with any car I would consider, I'm looking for something with a 
solid body, no rust, maybe in need of serious Martha-ing. In other words, 
cosmetics over mechanicals.  No project cars, it must be a driver. No museum 
pieces, as my budget won't support it.  I don't have an exact budget number 
just yet, but it would definitely be under $10k.

Given the choice I would prefer to avoid the W112 due to its complexity and 
parts cost/availability.  AC would be icing on the cake but lack of it is by no 
means a deal breaker.  

Location is not important, as I will gladly travel for the right car.

So please keep your eyes out for a Finnie!

Thanks,

-D

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Re: [MBZ] I am the Salkerlina Kleb

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I'm thinking it's the same.   I just took the battery out of the 1990 300SEL 
when I did the upper control arm and it looked the same as the one in the 
350SDL.

-D

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> On Apr 26, 2017, at 10:29 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> What battree does the 300SEL use?  Will the Group99 (diesel) battree fit the 
> tray?
> 
> -FT
> 
> 
>> On 4/26/17 10:20 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> At this point I would just get some fresh fuel in it and hit the key. Worry 
>> about the details if it won't start.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Apr 26, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Exactly my thought.  Wouldn't that be something, pop in a bushing or two 
>>> and it's good to go...  It did have fluid in it and didn't smell burned so 
>>> that part seemed OK.  I'll have to wait until I get it where I can get it 
>>> lifted.  I think my friend might let me put it in her barn so that would be 
>>> a good place to work on it.
>>> 
>>> I need to get a battery for it too, get a filter and see about gas.  Any 
>>> thoughts on resurrecting that aspect to see if the engine will run after so 
>>> long?
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 4/26/17 10:09 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>>>> Check the shift linkage bushings before you do anything else. And fluid 
>>>> level, of course.
>>>> 
>>>> Fun!
>>>> 
>>>> -D
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 26, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Max and I went and looked at the POSEL300 yesterday.  The kid wanted $300 
>>>>> for it, said the tranny was bad, had sat for 5 or 6 years.  It was in 
>>>>> surprisingly good shape, body very good, paint starting to fade a bit on 
>>>>> top (calling MarthaPoos), interior not too bad though one window was down 
>>>>> with a tarp in it and another was down about an inch, but it wasn't moldy 
>>>>> or anything.  Fairly clean. Gave him $200 for it, gonna go pick it up 
>>>>> this afternoon or tomorrow with my trailer.  It is a sorta brown/bronze 
>>>>> color, not too dark.  I'll have to run the VIN.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As we were leaving we noticed a 126 sitting at a tow yard across the 
>>>>> street.  We went over to take a look at it, really nice maroon 500SEL 
>>>>> that someone had hit 2 palmettos on the RF and completely destroyed it, 
>>>>> they had just towed it in.  Tow guy said it was on Keewaw.  Blood on 
>>>>> driver airbag, he said the driver was in the hospital.  I asked about 
>>>>> buying the hulk, thinking a 500->300SEL swap...  He said they would have 
>>>>> to wait for insco to sort it out, call back in a week.  I'll keep track 
>>>>> of it, see if the engine/tranny looks intact.  I tried to track down who 
>>>>> it might have belonged but no luck so far.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am supposing that swapping about any 126 engine into a 126 chassis 
>>>>> should be fairly straightforward?  Wilton/Max's dizzel (though from diff 
>>>>> chassis)?  This POSEL could be a fairly nice car maybe.  Or if we can get 
>>>>> the engine running, is the 300 tranny anything special to that engine or 
>>>>> will any 126 tranny fit?  Or maybe the t
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Re: [MBZ] I am the Salkerlina Kleb

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At this point I would just get some fresh fuel in it and hit the key. Worry 
about the details if it won't start.

-D

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> On Apr 26, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Exactly my thought.  Wouldn't that be something, pop in a bushing or two and 
> it's good to go...  It did have fluid in it and didn't smell burned so that 
> part seemed OK.  I'll have to wait until I get it where I can get it lifted.  
> I think my friend might let me put it in her barn so that would be a good 
> place to work on it.
> 
> I need to get a battery for it too, get a filter and see about gas.  Any 
> thoughts on resurrecting that aspect to see if the engine will run after so 
> long?
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 4/26/17 10:09 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> Check the shift linkage bushings before you do anything else. And fluid 
>> level, of course.
>> 
>> Fun!
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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>>> On Apr 26, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Max and I went and looked at the POSEL300 yesterday.  The kid wanted $300 
>>> for it, said the tranny was bad, had sat for 5 or 6 years.  It was in 
>>> surprisingly good shape, body very good, paint starting to fade a bit on 
>>> top (calling MarthaPoos), interior not too bad though one window was down 
>>> with a tarp in it and another was down about an inch, but it wasn't moldy 
>>> or anything.  Fairly clean. Gave him $200 for it, gonna go pick it up this 
>>> afternoon or tomorrow with my trailer.  It is a sorta brown/bronze color, 
>>> not too dark.  I'll have to run the VIN.
>>> 
>>> As we were leaving we noticed a 126 sitting at a tow yard across the 
>>> street.  We went over to take a look at it, really nice maroon 500SEL that 
>>> someone had hit 2 palmettos on the RF and completely destroyed it, they had 
>>> just towed it in.  Tow guy said it was on Keewaw.  Blood on driver airbag, 
>>> he said the driver was in the hospital.  I asked about buying the hulk, 
>>> thinking a 500->300SEL swap...  He said they would have to wait for insco 
>>> to sort it out, call back in a week.  I'll keep track of it, see if the 
>>> engine/tranny looks intact.  I tried to track down who it might have 
>>> belonged but no luck so far.
>>> 
>>> I am supposing that swapping about any 126 engine into a 126 chassis should 
>>> be fairly straightforward?  Wilton/Max's dizzel (though from diff chassis)? 
>>>  This POSEL could be a fairly nice car maybe.  Or if we can get the engine 
>>> running, is the 300 tranny anything special to that engine or will any 126 
>>> tranny fit?  Or maybe the t


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Re: [MBZ] I am the Salkerlina Kleb

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Check the shift linkage bushings before you do anything else. And fluid level, 
of course.

Fun!

-D

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> On Apr 26, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Max and I went and looked at the POSEL300 yesterday.  The kid wanted $300 for 
> it, said the tranny was bad, had sat for 5 or 6 years.  It was in 
> surprisingly good shape, body very good, paint starting to fade a bit on top 
> (calling MarthaPoos), interior not too bad though one window was down with a 
> tarp in it and another was down about an inch, but it wasn't moldy or 
> anything.  Fairly clean. Gave him $200 for it, gonna go pick it up this 
> afternoon or tomorrow with my trailer.  It is a sorta brown/bronze color, not 
> too dark.  I'll have to run the VIN.
> 
> As we were leaving we noticed a 126 sitting at a tow yard across the street.  
> We went over to take a look at it, really nice maroon 500SEL that someone had 
> hit 2 palmettos on the RF and completely destroyed it, they had just towed it 
> in.  Tow guy said it was on Keewaw.  Blood on driver airbag, he said the 
> driver was in the hospital.  I asked about buying the hulk, thinking a 
> 500->300SEL swap...  He said they would have to wait for insco to sort it 
> out, call back in a week.  I'll keep track of it, see if the engine/tranny 
> looks intact.  I tried to track down who it might have belonged but no luck 
> so far.
> 
> I am supposing that swapping about any 126 engine into a 126 chassis should 
> be fairly straightforward?  Wilton/Max's dizzel (though from diff chassis)?  
> This POSEL could be a fairly nice car maybe.  Or if we can get the engine 
> running, is the 300 tranny anything special to that engine or will any 126 
> tranny fit?  Or maybe the tranny problem is something simple, the kid said it 
> just quit working, would not go into F or R, which does not sound like a 
> progressive failure.  i wonder if the shifter is working.
> 
> I got plates for the 560SEC yesterday so gonna get that beeste on the road 
> and having some fun.
> 
> -- 
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> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes SL300 $1500

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I would avoid any R129 made prior to 1997, especially the earliest ones.  Worse 
yet, the 3.0 liter cars were not known for their performance, either.

-D

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> 
> How much is this worth?
> 
> 1991 Mercedes SL300
> http://tulsa.craigslist.org/pts/6103203871.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT cheap genset

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Yeah.  All the New Yorkers and jersey folks were all agog when they opened up 
here. Not sure why. Must be a local thing.

First time I had a Philly cheesesteak was at a WaWa in Trenton, NJ. Not 
particularly memorable.

-D

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> On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 14:09:58 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
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> 
>> WaWa is a gas station/convenience store that originated in PA or NJ,
>> I'm not sure. They just recently opened a bunch of stores in the Tampa
>> area, one of which is close to me. I buy diesel there, not because
>> they're any better than others, but because 1.) Costco doesn't sell
>> diesel here and 2.) they're a brand new station as opposed to the Hess
>> across the street that's been there for 15 years. I figure WaWa's tanks
>> are probably cleaner.
> 
> Oh, so WaWa is a brand name.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT cheap genset

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WaWa is a gas station/convenience store that originated in PA or NJ, I'm not 
sure. They just recently opened a bunch of stores in the Tampa area, one of 
which is close to me. I buy diesel there, not because they're any better than 
others, but because 1.) Costco doesn't sell diesel here and 2.) they're a brand 
new station as opposed to the Hess across the street that's been there for 15 
years. I figure WaWa's tanks are probably cleaner.

-D

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> On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 13:04:20 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
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> 
>> We have "ethanol free" gas at some stations here, mostly the new WaWa
>> places.
> 
> The new "WaWa places"?
> 
> What are those?
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT cheap genset

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We have "ethanol free" gas at some stations here, mostly the new WaWa places. 
As I fill up my tanks for yard equipment and generator I'll be buying this for 
all future consumption.

Looks like it's about the same price as premium fuel with ethanol.

I always run my small engine powered equipment out of fuel when I'm done using 
it. A habit I got into years ago.

-D

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> Premium gas here has alcohol added also, so it's a no win to use it. I have
> airport access and use 100 Low Lead aviation gas, which is very stable and
> has no alcohol, although it now runs near $5 per gallon.
> Of all the possible selections, seems Av Gas is the best choice for storage
> for me, even then, I add stabilizer, and go through the "run the carb dry
> drill".
> 
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>>> On 25/04/2017 10:41 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> It has become my practice to shut down gas generators by shutting off the
>>> fuel valve at the tank and letting them run out of fuel at the carburetor,
>>> THEN opening the drain screw in the bottom of the carb to drip out the
>>> little bit of gas that remains, close that screw and the carb is dry for
>>> storage.
>>> 
>>> So far, it's saved having to remove carburetors and clean the dried
>>> varnish
>>> from long dead gas.
>>> Start up requires opening the tank valve and wait a bit for the carb to
>>> fill. a bit of choke, couple pulls on the rope.. and if the gas isn't more
>>> than 6 months old.. a start.
>>> I have found the new gas with the EPA ethanol blend is horrible to store..
>>> It absorbs water, the ethanol evaporates, and it turns to sludge much more
>>> quickly.
>>> If your generator will be setting for any time, drain the tank.
>>> 
>>> 
>> Does premium gas have alcohol added where you are?
>> Our premium does not and I have started using it in things like the
>> snowblower and lawnmower etc.
>> 
>> 
>> RB
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Re: [MBZ] WAS RESTORED ** 1979 - NOW oil issues

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I think this was the stuff:

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat=1877242

-D

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> On Apr 25, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
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> In the 1980s, Slick 50 had Teflon in it...
> Since then, there have been some with molybdenum disulfide, but it seems 
> that's not a good idea to have around copper/bronze/brass/babbitt bearings.   
> 
> Mitch.
> 
> 
>> On April 25, 2017 at 5:22 AM Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> What was the stuff that was all the rage in the late 70s that had graphite 
>> in it? I remember using it in some of my cars at the time.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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>>> On Apr 24, 2017, at 8:45 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oops, did some fact checking. Most, including M1, were PAO. POE was more 
>>> expensive. All-Proof was an oddball, using alcohol diester instead of 
>>> poly-alpha olefins or  polyol ester.
>>> 
>>> A lot of Houston city fleet vehicles were destroyed by an off-brand oil 
>>> using AO base stock produced by All-Proof.
>>> 
>>> http://www.msttn.com/dyna/OilReport.pdf
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap rodbender for Mitch

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Yeah, I though that was a bit of a d*ck move on their part. I certainly 
wouldn't have given them $1000 for the car knowing they were going to scrap it 
for $300-$400 later that week.

Want to bet it's still there on Friday?

-D

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> 
> That seller sounds a bit of a jerk. He thinks that on Thursday, he's going
> to get $300 or $400 from a junkyard, more like $100 I'll bet.  "...but
> since $1,000 is a good price for this, I will not come down on principle,
> if someone waits until the last day to pay $400 just because that is how
> much the junk yard will give me."
> 
> I'd park across the street from the seller's house, find out what junkyard
> it goes to, and then purchase it from them for less than $1k I'll bet.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 9:25 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
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>> There's a $1000 240D near Jaime on Benzworld that looks nice, too, for the
>> money.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap rodbender for Mitch

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

There's a $1000 240D near Jaime on Benzworld that looks nice, too, for the 
money.

-D

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> On Apr 25, 2017, at 9:18 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
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> 
> So who's going to snap this up?  Mitch?
> 
> Supposedly the engine was replaced just 10k miles ago, maybe with a factory
> crate engine?
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Meade Dillon  wrote:
>> 
>> 1990 350SDL for $750
>> 
>> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-cars-sale/
>> 385589-1990-3500sdl-must-go-%24750.html
>> 
>> -
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Re: [MBZ] 1971 W109 300SEL 3.5

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At the time it predated such venues as eBay, so finding a market for it on a 
large scale was tough - maybe Hemings, if that.

I ended up selling it for $7k when we relocated to Florida, as I wouldn't have 
room for it t the new house.  It got totaled a few months later when hit on the 
right rear by a UPS truck, or so the owner told me. It was hit so hard it 
sheared the right rear wheel off, along with the fender.  Their insurer refused 
to repair it, and they didn't know what they were doing when it came to 
challenging the claim, I guess.

Today it might be worth in the mid teens, maybe?

You can see some pictures of it in this Dropbox folder:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vrcj7rqzeerf5gn/AAAQXTX-M_eP1x462AaK0uhqa?dl=0

Dan

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> On Apr 25, 2017, at 9:15 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
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> 
> What could you have sold it for after restoration?
> Gerry
> 
>> Sounds like the $400 VW convertible that I "restored" years ago. Granted, it 
>> was showroom perfect when done, but I was easily $10k poorer.
>> 
>> Lesson learned. Painfully. Buy the best you can and leave the restorations 
>> to those who can afford them.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 24, 2017, at 10:36 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> $8000 parts per Jaime, X 2 = $16k  from $20k BAT value  leaves you $4k for 
>>> profit and buying the hulk. Even at $2k, or $1k, or even free, you could 
>>> easily end up upside down.
>>> (it always ends up costing more than you think...)
>>> 
>>> I bid a job once that I knew had a lot of unknowns.  I figured out what I 
>>> thought it would take to turn a profit, then doubled it for the estimate.  
>>> Before I turned in the estimate, I let it ride for a day while working on 
>>> other stuff, then decided to triple the original estimate.  Then I turned 
>>> it in.  Got the job.  Turned out at double what I thought, I'd have not 
>>> been paid for a lot of time.  At triple, I came out OK, made some money.  
>>> It was a one day job for a Korean BBQ place.
>>> 
>>> What caused me to triple it was that I thought about what kind of wiring 
>>> mess I might encounter in the attic, and need to put in boxes, rewire, and 
>>> such to make it up to code.  That was indeed the problem that cost all the 
>>> extra time.   There are always unforeseen things that eat time and money on 
>>> a project like repairing this car.
>>> 
>>> (I know,  ... preaching to the choir)  Most of you have BTDT.
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 April 24, 2017 at 8:58 PM
 Yea but how much you think it's worth at the moment?
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT cheap genset

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Very true.

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> On Apr 25, 2017, at 8:49 AM, tyee165 via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> But if the thing won't run when you need it, you have lost 100%.
> 
> 
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>  Original message From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  Date: 2017-04-25  5:34 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
> Discussion List  Cc: Dan Penoff  
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT cheap genset 
> Understand that if you do convert from gasoline to a dry fuel such as propane 
> or natural gas you'll lose about 10-20% of your output due to the lower BTU 
> content.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 24, 2017, at 11:37 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> you can convert any vergasser to propane.  For one like this, you might not 
>> be able to get everything under the covers.  I plan to convert the old 
>> Kohler I have, but have not yet done it.
>> 
>>> tyee165 via Mercedes 
>>> April 24, 2017 at 10:34 PM
>>> Look for one  that runs on propaneThen it will still work when you need it 
>>> and not have a plugged up carburetor
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] WAS RESTORED ** 1979 - NOW oil issues

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What was the stuff that was all the rage in the late 70s that had graphite in 
it? I remember using it in some of my cars at the time.

-D

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> 
> Oops, did some fact checking. Most, including M1, were PAO. POE was more 
> expensive. All-Proof was an oddball, using alcohol diester instead of 
> poly-alpha olefins or  polyol ester.
> 
> A lot of Houston city fleet vehicles were destroyed by an off-brand oil using 
> AO base stock produced by All-Proof.
> 
> http://www.msttn.com/dyna/OilReport.pdf
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Re: [MBZ] 1976 mercedes 300D diesel auto $2400

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What's a "broking windshield"?  And what is he name of the exterior color? I 
love it!

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> OMG that is depressing.
> 
> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 9:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> 
>> I would be close to jumping on this if it wasn't for the horrible
>> aftermarket seat covers. Sad part is that I have a set of front seats the
>> the proper color but had them in the storage building at the old house and
>> the seat rail from another set of seats caught it and ripped a big hole in
>> the front of the cover ruining it. Crap. I used to have the backseat also.
>> This car would need proper seat covers for sure.
>> 
>> 1976 mercedes 300D diesel auto
>> http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/6092019647.html
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Re: [MBZ] WAS RESTORED ** 1979 - NOW oil issues

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I believe that was the case.

Understand that it doesn't cause or create the leaks - its ability to flow 
makes it easier to get past what might have been small or marginal leaks with 
Dino oil.  If it causes the seals or gaskets to swell slightLy, the leaks 
should decrease or stop on their own.

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> 
> I have a vague recollection that Marshall Booth said that switching to 
> synthetic oil might make an engine leak more at the outset, but that it would 
> be fine after some time.
> Anyone else recall this or am I lost in space?
> 
> RB
> 
>> On 23/04/2017 11:53 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> Curt,
>> When I got my Dodge, it was an off lease that had roughly 100,000 miles. It 
>> had been run with dino 10w30, forget the brand. I switched it to Valvoline 
>> Maxlife 10w40 for engines with over 75K. Both main seals were dry and I 
>> wanted to keep it that way. But I was tempted at one point and put in Mobil 
>> synthetic. As I said, it did not turn out well, but switching back to 
>> Valvoline stopped the leaks. I change oil and filter on the truck and both 
>> diesels around 3-3.5K miles. The Escape using Mobil synthetic I change at 
>> 7500. It uses 1 to 1.5 quarts between change, burns some I guess and leaks 
>> some from the valve covers. I asked the Ford dealership about running a 
>> thicker oil, but I was told the oil ports in the 3.0 V6 are too small to 
>> risk running a thicker oil. I think it uses 5w20 or 0w20, can't remember 
>> right off.
>> My 83 300D has a block heater, but being in the South, I've only used it 
>> once or twice in 20+ years. For some reason, the 300D will start faster at 
>> colder temps than the 300SD even though they have basically the same 617 
>> engine.
>> Best Wishes,
>> Roger
>> Roger Hale
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Re: [MBZ] Clay needs this

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I would think you could fab something up using expanding foam.  Then it would 
just be a matter of covering it.

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> On Apr 23, 2017, at 11:19 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
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> I asked a local upholstery shoppe if they could fake one up.  Positive 
> response came with a large price tag.  At least more than I want to invest.  
> I have time and there are ample cars at PnP that I can engineer something one 
> of these days.  At the moment I am neck deep in getting Allen prepped for 
> paint.
> 
> clay
> 
>> On Apr 22, 2017, at 12:44 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I would guess a posting on fleaby.de with the picture  might get you a 
>> response for door cards without the hardware.  Problem is, by now all but a 
>> few in museums are scrapped in .DE.  Might be some sold to turd world 
>> countries in junkyards.
>> 
>>> Craig via Mercedes 
>>> April 22, 2017 at 1:09 PM
>>> On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 11:43:56 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
>>> 
>>> So where does one get one of those setups?
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 126 rear foot rests

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Look here:

http://mercedesmark.com/trim-carpet-etc/199-w126-se-sel-series-i-ii-genuine-mercedes-carpeted-rear-foot-rest-bolsters.html

They're effectively a carpet colored wedge that just sits on the floor of the 
rear cabin behind the front seats. Not sure how functional they really are.

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> What do they look like?
> Does this car have them?
> https://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/6079362296.html
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Re: [MBZ] 126 rear foot rests

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$50 shipped.

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> I see them for $70-$100 all the time. How much did you pay? 
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>> Bought them off a guy on BW.  It was an impulse purchase, I'm not sure they 
>> add a lot of value.
>> 
>> Dan
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>>> Did they come with it or did you buy them?  They only came in the 560 as 
>>> far as I know.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 4/21/2017 9:57 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>>>> I have a set in my 350SDL.
>>>> 
>>>> Dan
>>>> 
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>>>>> On Apr 21, 2017, at 10:46 PM, Craig via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 21:28:33 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Are those rear foot rests that came in the 560's still a thing anymore?
>>>>>> I know people used to love them to put in other cars and to be honest I
>>>>>> have never had a set before.  Even my 560 did not have them as they are
>>>>>> usually missing out of the car.  I see them from time to time on ebay
>>>>>> still, wondered if folks thought they were worth buying.
>>>>> Never heard of them before. Never sit in the rear of a Mercedes Benz.
>>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 126 rear foot rests

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Bought them off a guy on BW.  It was an impulse purchase, I'm not sure they add 
a lot of value.

Dan

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> Did they come with it or did you buy them?  They only came in the 560 as far 
> as I know.
> 
> 
>> On 4/21/2017 9:57 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> I have a set in my 350SDL.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
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>>> 
>>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 21:28:33 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Are those rear foot rests that came in the 560's still a thing anymore?
>>>> I know people used to love them to put in other cars and to be honest I
>>>> have never had a set before.  Even my 560 did not have them as they are
>>>> usually missing out of the car.  I see them from time to time on ebay
>>>> still, wondered if folks thought they were worth buying.
>>> Never heard of them before. Never sit in the rear of a Mercedes Benz.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 126 rear foot rests

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I have a set in my 350SDL.

Dan

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> On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 21:28:33 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
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>> Are those rear foot rests that came in the 560's still a thing anymore? 
>> I know people used to love them to put in other cars and to be honest I 
>> have never had a set before.  Even my 560 did not have them as they are 
>> usually missing out of the car.  I see them from time to time on ebay 
>> still, wondered if folks thought they were worth buying.
> 
> Never heard of them before. Never sit in the rear of a Mercedes Benz.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED ** 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD ** BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

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Roger,

"Zundfogle" is German for "firing order".  This was cast in the valve covers 
and heads of older MB engines for reference purposes. Sellers who don't know 
these cars like we do will often put a reference in their for sale ads about 
the "zundfogle" engines, thinking this term means there's something of great 
value relative to this.

It's sort of like the folks who refer to the laminated glass windows on the 
W140 models as being "bulletproof".

Always gives us a good chuckle

Dan

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> Kaleb, I don't know what the zundfogle engine is. Mine is just the last 617 
> version put in the 116 body. It has some different vacuum 
> functions/connections for the tranny, plus the glow plug relay is different. 
> And of course it has the Chrysler servo. These things all changed with the 
> 1981 126 300SD. 
> It gets around 28 mpg on the highway at 70-80 mph, I have gotten 30 mpg when 
> it was younger. Around town it probably only gets around 24-26. The ride is 
> what I like...really built like no other car for its time period. 
> Best Wishes, 
> Roger 
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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED ** 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD ** BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

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And ICE COLD AIR, too?


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> On Apr 21, 2017, at 9:56 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> 
> Does your car have the MILLION MILE ENGINE???
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 4/21/17 9:52 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> Well, since I have a 1980 300SD which I've had for over 20 years and had the 
>> leather and pads replacedI'll chime in here. It is leather and probably 
>> what you can still get. The paint should last awhile, mine was repainted 
>> about 15 years ago and still looks good, clear coat and all. Yes, he should 
>> have used the softer, felt/fleece look carpet, especially for up the 
>> console. This carpet is too harsh. As to the engine blow by and leaks, he 
>> may be using that wonderful synthetic oil. The old 617 turbos of that era 
>> don't tolerate synthetic that well and run better on dino. Yes, he's asking 
>> too much, but if you're interested, offer less and replace the carpet. 
>> Unlike the 126 with its plastic sides hiding rust and poor seat construction 
>> (they constantly rip), the old 116 will last forever. Mine is still going 
>> with around 425,000 miles and yes on dino oil. I've only replaced the tranny 
>> at around 420,000 and the interior as I said about 22 years ago. It still 
>> has the original exhaust, IP, turbo, etc.
>> Just some personal info to add.
>> Best Wishes,
>> Roger
>> Roger Hale
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 Mercedes E320S $500

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They don't want to sell it today?

-D

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> On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 19:30:23 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
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>> 
>>> On April 18, 2017 at 7:14 PM Craig via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I know what an E320 is, what is an E320S?
>> 
>> 
>> A 320SE with a dyslexic owner. Or maybe a 320SEL, but I doubt it's LWB. 
> 
> I emailed the seller and got this reply on Tuesday:
> --
> The "S" means sedan, a 4 door vehicle
> And E320 is the model
> Also you can find the water pump on google shopping for under 100$, as
> low as around 60$ if you can work on it yourself, or know a mechanic. The
> car still runs. It is good if you or someone you know just badly needs a
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Re: [MBZ] M103 Air Flow Meter Boot

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I'll have the lines off, so I figure I can flush them out while they're off the 
car. Wasn't something on my "to do" list, but it is now. Thanks!

-D

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> Bad injectors will give you rough idle and mixture control issues.
> 
> When you replace them, leave the lines off at the injector and crank a bit 
> (watch for spilt fuel, of course) -- crap collects in the lines and you can 
> plug up new ones making them as bad as the old ones!
> 
> I need to replace the ones in the TE, it's got 270k on it and I don't know 
> when they were done last.
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Re: [MBZ] M103 Air Flow Meter Boot

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Thanks, Peter, but as inexpensive as the boot and idle air valve hoses are, I'm 
going for broke and replacing all of them. Ordered the parts from MB yesterday, 
they should be in on Monday. They're not terribly expensive - I think the boot 
lists for around $45, and the hoses about $10/each.

I also ordered all of the injector O rings and holders, too. I'm seriously 
considering replacing the injectors while I'm in there.  I can get a set of new 
Bosch injectors for around $125. My only concern is comments I've seen in the 
various forums about Bosch's lack of QC on their injectors.

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> I had big air leaks on mine around that barb, the old boot was rock hard.  It 
> also leaks around the throttle body when it gets old as it shrinks and the 
> clamp becomes loose.  Tighten the clamp and it may fix the leak for a bit, 
> but if it does, the boot is shot.
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Re: [MBZ] W220 death MODERATOR - approve the pix

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No sign of anything in the queue. Send again and email me immediately after.

-D

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> AH
> 
>> On Apr 14, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Craig via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 22:10:48 -0700 clay via Mercedes
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> This is not normal.  I just want to weld some monroe shocks in and call
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>> There were no pictures attached.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Freebies!

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Will do.

The headlights are going to replace the set I got from Kaleb that didn't have 
vacuum levelers that are current installed on the 350SDL.  I'll move those to 
the 300SEL. I'll swap the brand new Bosch lenses from the Kaleb set to my new 
ones, too.

Also, I didn't include pictures of the headlight wipers, motors and brackets 
that came with the headlights, either.

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> Find me some 124 cabriolet parts next time...
> 
> We need pix of those lights installed!
> -- 
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> '95 E300
> 
>> On April 16, 2017 6:59:32 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Here are some pictures of the freebies I picked up today from a guy
>> over in South Tampa, about 30 minutes away from me.  He didn’t want to
>> toss any of this stuff out:
>> 
>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/erir1qvktyl30dc/AAC5Zoa3vmbQg_7iwIljiZila?dl=0
>> 
>> Take a look at my haul and let me know if you think it was worth an
>> hour of my time and a couple bucks worth of fuel…
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Poos better sell now while narcotics are still on sale

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This was his reply:
> 
> It's a great running vehicle for its age!  Non of that non-sense b/s is 
> needed for this vehicle!  If you're looking for It's a great running vehicle 
> for its age! If you're looking for a perfect vehicle, you may consider a new 
> car!  This is a collector's vehicle and it's not perfect!  Hope this helps! 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> DR

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> wrote:
> 
> I emailed him asking about the service history and if it had any major work 
> done to it.  Got a totally noncommittal and very evasive response with 
> nothing about history or service.  I wrote him back and asked for the VIN and 
> a pre-purchase inspection.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 4, 2017, at 7:22 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> No, he would need to ask If It Has Dumped A Jug
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
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[MBZ] Today's 300SEL Fun

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Picked up the new transmission vacuum modulator from the dealer at lunch.

Got home, got the car in the air and got the old modulator out without a lot of 
work.  It was the original modulator from the looks of it, as it had the old 
style rubber cap which was eliminated in 1991. The cap had some cracks in it, 
so that was probably the leak.

Got the new modulator in without a lot of effort. Connected up a pressure gauge 
to check working pressure on the modulator (58 psi). Had to adjust a couple of 
times to get it dialed in, after which I installed the "T" and the locking cap.

Took it for a test drive and it shifted well.  Now I just need to drive it some 
more to determine if that was the (last) vacuum leak...

-D

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cell phone flakiness

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In all the years I've been with Verizon, I have never exceeded my data cap.  
Mostly texts and checking/sending mail, that's about it.

I love it when I go into their store, and the first thing they always want to 
do is "check my account activity so they're sure I've got the best plan." I 
gave up telling them not to bother, I just let them figure it out each time.
-D

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> 
> So you are more concerned with the amount of data than the minutes??
> 
> RB
> 
>> On 04/04/2017 2:02 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> I rarely ever talk on mine
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On Apr 4, 2017, at 3:01 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Do you really talk on your cell phone for more than 1500 minutes per month, 
>>> Curt?
>>> 
>>> RB
>>> 
>>>> On 04/04/2017 1:48 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>>> Unlimited to 1500 min, what kind of logic is that? Its unlimited until it 
>>>> isn't?
>>>> How much data is more than you'll ever use?
>>>> -Curt
>>>> 
>>>>   From: Curley McLain via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>  To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>> Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
>>>>  Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 2:38 PM
>>>>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cell phone flakiness
>>>>I made the switch from Verizon to Consumer cellular.  Went from $75 to
>>>> $25  Unlimited to 1500 min, and more data than i ever use.  Same fone.
>>>> I only had to get a CC sim card.  CC uses ATT towers and has been
>>>> flawless.  SWMBO's fone will be added for $10/mo.  For both of us, we go
>>>> from about $140 to $35/mo.  That is significant savings.
>>>> 
>>>> If anyone wants a card for a CC discount, let me know.In spite of
>>>> CC's association with the AA(S)RP they seem to be good.  You don't have
>>>> to pay AA(S)RP.
>>>>> Curt Raymond via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>> April 4, 2017 at 1:24 PM
>>>>> Smartphone plans have come wy down.3 years ago when my employer
>>>>> pushed me off their plan I was getting a corporate discount and still
>>>>> paying $91/mo with Verizon for 2GB of data. Now I could get the same
>>>>> plan for $35...
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cell phone flakiness

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I rarely ever talk on mine

-D

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> On Apr 4, 2017, at 3:01 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
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> 
> Do you really talk on your cell phone for more than 1500 minutes per month, 
> Curt?
> 
> RB
> 
>> On 04/04/2017 1:48 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> Unlimited to 1500 min, what kind of logic is that? Its unlimited until it 
>> isn't?
>> How much data is more than you'll ever use?
>> -Curt
>> 
>>   From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
>>  Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 2:38 PM
>>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cell phone flakiness
>>I made the switch from Verizon to Consumer cellular.  Went from $75 to
>> $25  Unlimited to 1500 min, and more data than i ever use.  Same fone.
>> I only had to get a CC sim card.  CC uses ATT towers and has been
>> flawless.  SWMBO's fone will be added for $10/mo.  For both of us, we go
>> from about $140 to $35/mo.  That is significant savings.
>> 
>> If anyone wants a card for a CC discount, let me know.In spite of
>> CC's association with the AA(S)RP they seem to be good.  You don't have
>> to pay AA(S)RP.
>>> Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>> April 4, 2017 at 1:24 PM
>>> Smartphone plans have come wy down.3 years ago when my employer
>>> pushed me off their plan I was getting a corporate discount and still
>>> paying $91/mo with Verizon for 2GB of data. Now I could get the same
>>> plan for $35...
>>> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] I want to look away....

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From what you can see it looks like the guy did a decent job with the build. If 
you were able to keep all the relevant systems working, like AC and the top 
hydraulics, it's not a bad car IMHO.

It's probably worth more than the original unmolested car...

-D

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> On Apr 4, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> 
> OK here's one. 
> https://jalopnik.com/for-4-800-could-this-sbc-equipped-1990-volvo-240-be-v-1793956545
> 
> There's a guy that has come to the C a coupla times with pretty much the 
> same thing (though I think it was a wagon) but engine done up right.  He says 
> the thing is a total screamer and fun as hell.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
>> On 4/4/17 12:01 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
>> Now come on . . .
>> You folks tend to think that any MB advertised above $500 is the result of 
>> someone smoking bad stuff.
>> There is really nothing wrong with a small block Chevy drivetrain.
>> If he had used a more recent engine with fuel injection and thus a lower 
>> profile and avoided the hole in the hood, no one would even know what was 
>> under the hood unless they opened it.
>> As I suggested earlier, if one got rid of the hole in the hood and the side 
>> pipes, it really might not be all that bad.
>> One would need to look closer to see how well the transplant was done but if 
>> it was not a total butcher job, it might well be better than the original 
>> drivetrain.
>> 
>> 
>> RB
>> 
>>> On 04/04/2017 10:31 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> That car is completely worthless to anybody other than a small number who 
>>> think it's cool.
>>> 
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>>>> On Apr 4, 2017, at 6:30 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ...but I can't:
>>>> 
>>>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/6071546744.html
>>>> 
>>>> 
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[MBZ] I want to look away....

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

...but I can't:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/6071546744.html

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Re: [MBZ] Release Fuel Door Actuator?

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Thanks, but I'm good. I found the service procedure for R and it say little 
more than "release the tab."

I just have to shove my arm back up in there and start poking around until it 
comes off or I break something

-D

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> 
> Yeah, that's what I see in the manual. It's just a line drawing. I can send 
> it to you if you don't have it. My best guess is to push the tab toward the 
> front of the car and push the vac pod toward the right side of the car. Thats 
> if the orientation in the picture is the same as in life. The picture is in 
> the correct orientation for the earlier models as if you are looking at it 
> from the back where you are working.
> 
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>> Above. I have the later model that's barrel shaped with the red mushroom for 
>> the manual release.
>> It looks like there's a tab on the forward part that has to be pressed to 
>> release the actuator from the part anchored to the car.
>> I'll poke around on it this afternoon when I get home from work.
>> -D
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>>> 
>>> Does your vehicle ID number end above or below 354452
>>> 
>>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>>> I’m trying to figure out how to disconnect the vacuum actuator on the fuel 
>>>> door on the 300SEL (W126).  You can’t see in there very well, and the 
>>>> business end of everything is in the opposite direction, too.
>>>> I know there’s a tab of some sort that you can push on to release the 
>>>> actuator from the bushing that goes through the opening to the fuel door, 
>>>> but without some sort of visualization I’m not having a lot of luck.
>>>> I’ve found a few pictures and references to this on the interwebs, but 
>>>> none of them are terribly detailed or have a good picture.
>>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] 1938 Packard on BAT

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I had my eye on that car as well. Looks like a great car to just drive as-is 
and enjoy. I don't think the price will get run up at the end, I think it's too 
generic of a car.

-D

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> On Apr 3, 2017, at 10:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
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> Restoration hell, it looks good. Bring the mechanicals up to snuff and enjoy. 
> A real gem at $4k, I bet it'll go for at least triple that...
> -Curt
> 
>  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 9:52 AM
> Subject: [MBZ] 1938 Packard on BAT
> 
> This could be a bargain find and a great restoration candidate for someone
> into these cars.
> 
> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1938-packard-1600/
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Re: [MBZ] Release Fuel Door Actuator?

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Above. I have the later model that's barrel shaped with the red mushroom for 
the manual release.

It looks like there's a tab on the forward part that has to be pressed to 
release the actuator from the part anchored to the car.

I'll poke around on it this afternoon when I get home from work.

-D

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> On Apr 3, 2017, at 9:23 AM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Does your vehicle ID number end above or below 354452
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> I’m trying to figure out how to disconnect the vacuum actuator on the fuel 
>> door on the 300SEL (W126).  You can’t see in there very well, and the 
>> business end of everything is in the opposite direction, too.
>> I know there’s a tab of some sort that you can push on to release the 
>> actuator from the bushing that goes through the opening to the fuel door, 
>> but without some sort of visualization I’m not having a lot of luck.
>> I’ve found a few pictures and references to this on the interwebs, but none 
>> of them are terribly detailed or have a good picture.
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Re: [MBZ] Okie follow up

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Darwinism at its best, sadly.

-D

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> On Mar 31, 2017, at 3:10 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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> 
> All old enough to know better.  All got what they had coming. Darwin 
> awards.
> 
> The sad thing is that the son had to protect himself.
> 
>> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> March 31, 2017 at 1:58 PM
>> Pretty sad story. All the victims were under 19.
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Re: [MBZ] 13 and 15

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Nothing but a hole. You'll need the Metra harness. I can look up the number for 
it if you need one, it's a standard DIN radio harness.

When I bought one for my 350SDL I bought the Metra harness and wired it up 
myself. Pretty easy and straightforward.

I may have another on the way from an R129 buddy who bought one and didn't like 
it. Not sure which car I'll put it in yet...

-D

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> On Mar 31, 2017, at 1:42 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Will it come with the plugs for the radio end at least so the pigtails could 
> be spliced in, or would it come with nothing but the hole in the radio in 
> which to insert the plug?
> 
> 
> Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
>  Original message From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  Date: 2017-03-31  12:00 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
> Discussion List  Cc: Meade Dillon 
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] 13 and 15 
> The harness should be the connectors / adapters to plug into the back of
> the radio and then into your car's existing wiring without any cutting and
> splicing.
> 
> Yes, that is steep.  I'll be that Crutchfield sells the separate components
> for about $25 each or so?
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 12:45 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> What do they mean by "without harness"?
>> $50 seems a lot extra for a "harness".
>> 
>> RB
>> 
>>> On 31/03/2017 9:54 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> For the non-CD versions, here is a place that has pretty good prices and
>>> shipping should be faster:
>>> 
>>> http://www.egauges.com/12-Volt-Radios-s/33233.htm
>>> 
>>> For the CD versions, the above website is selling the wrong version for US
>>> market (it has the Euro equivalent of HD radio, won't work here) so I got
>>> the correct version (Continental CD7416UB_OR) from eBay Germany.
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I despise the W220

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If there was ever a poster child for the "There's no such thing as a cheap 
Mercedes", the W220 is it.

This continues to validate my extrication from my previous S430.

-D

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> Wow, that's a harsh assessment.  Thanks for letting me know when not to act
> on my impulses to purchase a bargain S class from the 90s.
> 
> On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 1:08 PM, clay via Mercedes 
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> 
>> After more than five weeks, I picked up the S430 from the shop.  It was
>> there to have the speedo cluster dealt with.  New part is $24xx.00.
>> Sending the old part to Beckmann in NC was $900.  But, that takes time for
>> them to get it on the bench and made good.
>> 
>> ANY how, the car was picked up, minor fee to have it installed and checked
>> out.  I drove off the lot, and the driver mirror glass falls off.  I park
>> and see what the fee to fix that would be.  Part is $495 from his
>> distributor.  I hate this car.  I get home and hop on the Bay of Fleas, and
>> find some guy in Latvia with glass for $20.  I will be able to use the car
>> again sometime in late April.
>> 
>> On a positive note, I got Polei’s 500k Km badge in the mail.
>> 
>> The W220 will never see a badge, as it will most likely be scrapped by the
>> next owner due to value of parts being more than the vehicle is worth.
>> 
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1986 SDL - Polei
>> 1982 300 SD - Allen
>> 
>> retired models-
>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
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Re: [MBZ] 13 and 15

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It uses a standard DIN connector, like mid 90s and later MBs use. The  
alternative is a Metra harness for about $15.00.

-D

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> On Mar 31, 2017, at 12:45 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What do they mean by "without harness"?
> $50 seems a lot extra for a "harness".
> 
> RB
> 
>> On 31/03/2017 9:54 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> For the non-CD versions, here is a place that has pretty good prices and
>> shipping should be faster:
>> 
>> http://www.egauges.com/12-Volt-Radios-s/33233.htm
>> 
>> For the CD versions, the above website is selling the wrong version for US
>> market (it has the Euro equivalent of HD radio, won't work here) so I got
>> the correct version (Continental CD7416UB_OR) from eBay Germany.
>> 
>> -
>> Max
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Re: [MBZ] 13 and 15

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Try the link Max put in his message?

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> Where do you get them? I really hate changing our factory radios for 
> aftermarket 
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Re: [MBZ] Oil pressure drop

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Ok, so he can buy them from FCP a Euro then.  For that matter, I've found a 
bunch of Mann oil filters on closeout from Rock Auto lately. I cleaned them out.

I only buy Mann or OE.

-D

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> 
> Bzzzt wrong. Checked 606 filters for example 108.80 when buying case of 10 
> from your Mann site, fcp has the case for $94.99. Or you can get oem Mahle 
> for 8.10 each from importec. 
> 
> For a 617 it's 223.20 for case of 20, or 8.45 each from importec, $8.69 each 
> from fcp.  In 80-90% of the cases importec is going to be cheaper except if 
> it's something that fcp has on clearance but you have to be careful with 
> that. I ordered a clearance hood pad from them that said it had the metal 
> shield and it did not, the pre fuel filters I ordered they had listed for mb 
> but when they arrived they appear to be gasoline filters for vw. They look 
> similar to the mb diesel fuel filters but have paper elements inside and the 
> end fittings are different.
> 
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>> On Mar 31, 2017, at 4:25 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> If you’re buying filters (Mann) by the case, buy them from Mann for the best 
>> deal:
>> 
>> http://www.mannfiltersrus.com 
>> 
>> And trim your posts, please!
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 31, 2017, at 1:02 AM, clay via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> And another very good idea.  I will put in an order with Gary for a case of 
>>> filters.  I have two cars that take them, so will probably need a bunch
>>> 
>>> clay
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Re: [MBZ] Phone sales

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Sorry - I just reread your post and saw that you purchased.

-D

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> On Mar 30, 2017, at 4:48 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> What I paid was heavily dependent on the complexity of installation so is 
> meaningless. It's really best to obtain a custom estimate from your local or 
> national (e.g., Solar City) installer.  PV production has ranged between 750 
> (Jan.) - 2000 (Aug.) kw/month since last August   Federal tax credit of 30% 
> made a huge difference in convincing me to buy rather than lease the panels.
> 
> The net metering works flawlessly - if I produce more than I need (October - 
> November) I feed the grid and get a credit for the excess power from Pepco.  
> In March my bill was under $20; in August, I needed to tap into the grid to 
> satisfy demands of central AC above and beyond panel production.
> 
> Environmental Benefits
> 
> CO2 Emission Saved
> 7,550.58 kg
> 
> Equivalent Trees Planted
> 418.88
> 
> Light Bulbs Powered
> 32,547 For a day
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> So Andrew - what did this system cost you, and what sort of net metering are 
>> you getting out of it?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> > On Mar 30, 2017, at 4:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > You're right - they are 285 watt panels.
>> >
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Phone sales

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Understood. Did you lease or purchase outright?

Solar City has just landed here, since the state regulations have been relaxed 
slightly, giving them the ability to do business. The laws here that hose 
things up basically say that no one can be a power producer (seller) other than 
the utilities.  That is now changing, so folks like Solar City can finally do 
business here.

Another change in state law covers value to the home, that is, up until this 
year appraisers didn't have to consider a solar system as a permanent fixture 
and include its value in the value of the home. Now they do.

This state has been so messed up when it comes to solar energy, and sadly it's 
all due to a bunch of greedy utilities.

-D

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> 
> What I paid was heavily dependent on the complexity of installation so is 
> meaningless. It's really best to obtain a custom estimate from your local or 
> national (e.g., Solar City) installer.  PV production has ranged between 750 
> (Jan.) - 2000 (Aug.) kw/month since last August   Federal tax credit of 30% 
> made a huge difference in convincing me to buy rather than lease the panels.
> 
> The net metering works flawlessly - if I produce more than I need (October - 
> November) I feed the grid and get a credit for the excess power from Pepco.  
> In March my bill was under $20; in August, I needed to tap into the grid to 
> satisfy demands of central AC above and beyond panel production.
> 
> Environmental Benefits
> 
> CO2 Emission Saved
> 7,550.58 kg
> 
> Equivalent Trees Planted
> 418.88
> 
> Light Bulbs Powered
> 32,547 For a day
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> So Andrew - what did this system cost you, and what sort of net metering are 
>> you getting out of it?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> > On Mar 30, 2017, at 4:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > You're right - they are 285 watt panels.
>> >
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Phone sales

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Not when the legislators are getting boatloads of lobbyist money.  We've got 
another one going in the legislature right now. The power companies are pushing 
a bill through that will allow them to charge Florida rate payers for the 
utilities' costs for energy exploration outside of Florida.

The locals are raising Cain with the legislators over it, yet they're still 
voting to make it law anyway.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2017/03/house-committee-gives-okay-to-fpl-backed-bill-requiring-customers-to-pay-for-fracking-investments.html

-D

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> 
> The residents get what they vote for...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
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> 
> Don't blame the residents, blame the greedy utilities like Duke Energy and 
> Florida Power who want to keep paying dividends to stockholders rather than 
> focus on those who they serve. It's them and the asshats in the state 
> government like Rick Scott who are doing this.
> 
> They tried to get a constitutional amendment through last year that would 
> have made it near impossible to be an independent power producer, but the 
> voters saw through it as a grab for more power. They dumped $30M on lobbying 
> and advertisements to try and push it through.
> 
> -D
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> > On Mar 29, 2017, at 1:15 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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> > It is all about ripping off the snowbirds AND a lot of it is inflicted by 
> > northeasterners who move there to escape the stupdity of their home, but 
> > bring the stupidity with them.
> > 
> > If the panhandle was a separate state, I'd really like it there.
> >> Curt Raymond via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> 
> >> March 29, 2017 at 12:09 PM
> >> Another reason to hate Florida, the "Sunshine state" squanders it most 
> >> plentiful resource.
> >> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Phone sales

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Don't blame the residents, blame the greedy utilities like Duke Energy and 
Florida Power who want to keep paying dividends to stockholders rather than 
focus on those who they serve. It's them and the asshats in the state 
government like Rick Scott who are doing this.

They tried to get a constitutional amendment through last year that would have 
made it near impossible to be an independent power producer, but the voters saw 
through it as a grab for more power. They dumped $30M on lobbying and 
advertisements to try and push it through.

-D

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> On Mar 29, 2017, at 1:15 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It is all about ripping off the snowbirds AND a lot of it is inflicted by 
> northeasterners who move there to escape the stupdity of their home, but 
> bring the stupidity with them.
> 
> If the panhandle was a separate state, I'd really like it there.
>> Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> March 29, 2017 at 12:09 PM
>> Another reason to hate Florida, the "Sunshine state" squanders it most 
>> plentiful resource.
>> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Phone sales

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Well, unfortunately due to the lobbying efforts of the big utilities down here 
net metering in nearly impossible to do. In rural areas where there are smaller 
utilities, not typically investor owned I might add, they'll work with you much 
like the system that Manfred recently installed.

Where I am the utility had a lottery for the number of accounts they would 
accept net metering for each year. This is the first year they stopped doing it 
- that means you can still do solar if you want, but you're not getting 
anything from them out of the deal.

And pray tell, Andrew, how much did your system set you back in total? Or is it 
leased?

-D

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> On Mar 29, 2017, at 10:31 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> I installed 55 solar panels @ 985 watts on my sunny south facing roof.  In 
> the shoulder months Pepco owes me money. 
> 
>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 5:29 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Around $0.09-0.11/kWH here, depending on the tier (more usage, lower rate).
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> > On Mar 28, 2017, at 9:40 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > Does anyone else get the incessant calls about lower electric rates?
>> > None of the rates are near what I pay, so for years I give them a hard
>> > time.  Today the lady said she was paying 17cents in FL - really?  Do
>> > you guys pay that much?
>> > tintin
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Re: [MBZ] 300SEL Fun

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Pretty much.

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> On Mar 29, 2017, at 8:12 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> So what I'm hearing is my offer of $500 has been rejected. It's fine man, I
> can take it. I'm only a man! Flesh and blood! It'll be alright.
> 
> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> 
>> Took some time to look closely at the front suspension at lunch today.
>> Good news!
>> 
>> The lower ball joints are intact and tight.  There was all sorts of cruft
>> covering them, giving them the appearance of leaking grease.  I cleaned
>> them off and checked them closely and they’re intact with no cracks or
>> damage. Good and tight, too.
>> 
>> The upper control arm joints are the culprit for the occasional noise I’m
>> hearing when turning.  They’re shot, at least the boots are.  The right
>> side is almost completely torn off, the left side just cracked with some
>> small tears, but it’s definitely open to the elements.  I used my grease
>> injector to push as much grease as I could into both as a stop gap measure,
>> but I’ll be ordering the control arms today.
>> 
>> This is great news, as it means I’ll probably keep the car and pass it
>> along to the eldest boy.  I’ll do the upper control arms and fix the left
>> rear window and gas door lock and the car will be pretty much complete.
>> I’ve read up on the CIS duty cycle adjustment some more and I’m planning on
>> checking that out tonight to see how close it is to spec.
>> 
>> Cool.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W126 Rear Window Regulator

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Rear window, not front. Rears are different.

-D

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> On Mar 27, 2017, at 8:56 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Late front ones are stamped steel, and the teeth wear/break off.  
> Car-part.com for a good used regulator and motor.
> 
> I put cast gear regulator in the driver door of one SDL.  It was from a gen I 
> 126.  You have to swap the motor and regulator together.  different sprockets 
> on the motor.
> 
> My guess is you have a stamped one, and it has the teeth gone.
> 
> I've only had slide/rivet problems on the rear.
> 
> with the door open, try pushing down the glass while your assistant switches 
> the window down (or up, in  case some monkey reversed the wires.)  If the 
> window works except clear up, then it is the gear rack.
> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> March 27, 2017 at 7:26 PM
>> Looking into the last of the issues on the 300SEL, I knew the PO said one of 
>> the back windows didn’t work, but that was a minor thing I haven’t paid any 
>> attention to.
>> 
>> I checked it out tonight and found the left rear window doesn’t work. I can 
>> hear the motor in both directions, but no movement of the glass. I looked a 
>> the regulators on some of the parts sites and the rear window regulators 
>> look very different than the ones I’ve been used to seeing. Is there 
>> something about these that is prone to failure, or that I should expect to 
>> find when I crack open the door panel? Sliding jaw issues? Mechanical 
>> problems?
>> 
>> They look a lot simpler than the regulators on the front doors.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] 300SEL For Sale

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Sure. How many miles? 

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> On Mar 27, 2017, at 3:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> Interested in a trade for a 2007 Honda Accord?
> 
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 8:48 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
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> 
>> Sounds great! I'll give you $500 for it. Can you hold it for me until next
>> month, when I can start paying you $50 a quarter for it? Great! Thanks.
>> 
>> EdB.
>> 
>> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Daniel Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Just for grins I put the 300SEL for sale on CL. If I can get a taker in
>>> the next week or two I’m doing it.  I’ve got some work related stuff
>> that’s
>>> going to take a lot of my time in April, so if it’s still around once I
>> get
>>> past that I’ll be taking on the front end rebuild.
>>> 
>>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/6060825853.html
>>> 
>>> Personally, I think it’s a great deal and will sell quickly. We’ll see.
>>> 
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Headlights and Deet.

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Sounds like using Lemon Pledge to clean plastic windows on convertibles. Sounds 
silly, but it works.

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> On Mar 27, 2017, at 4:09 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> It also makes MY skin so shiny the bugs can't find me!
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 3/27/17 3:56 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>> This is a thing. How'd it take me so long to know this?
>> I'm spending the day at my indy's, new EGR, EGR hose, power steering res, 
>> and a random cooling hose on my w211. We started talking about headlights 
>> and he said, "watch this..." he grabbed the Off and a towel, and 30 seconds 
>> later a crystal clear headlight lens where a once cloudy one was. Damn.
>> It's like effing magic.
>> The other wrench in the shop said that he cleaned the lenses with the 
>> highest % Deet spray he could find them covered his lenses with the 3M clear 
>> bra stuff
>>  Interesting.
>> Anyone know of this Deet sweet, clear headlight connection?
>> 
>> Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Spring Stretch Results

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Go search the PP forums as I recall reading about it over there. IIRC it was 
due to a complaint about poor or low power.

-D

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> On Mar 27, 2017, at 1:37 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> Well somebody have replace theirs in their 603 and let me know if it is worth 
> it. 
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>> 
>> The OM617 relief valve is a part number 000 078 72 84 and lists for $27.00.
>> 
>> The OM603 relief valve is a part number 601 070 01 47 and lists for $57.00.
>> 
>> Don't know about physical sizes.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Spring Stretch Results

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

The OM617 relief valve is a part number 000 078 72 84 and lists for $27.00.

The OM603 relief valve is a part number 601 070 01 47 and lists for $57.00.

Don't know about physical sizes.

Dan

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> On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Not sure 
> 
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>> On Mar 27, 2017, at 9:04 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Is the bolt size/thread pitch the same as on OM616/7?   If so the OM60x 
>> could be "upgraded" with a bolt salvaged from an OM61x.


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Re: [MBZ] Andrew's next car

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

When I flew to Little Rock to pick up the 350SDL I carried on with a bunch of 
tools. I realized my mistake when I got to security, as I had intended to check 
that bag. Dang it!

I spent about 20 minutes with some HS employee with a gauge that measured the 
length of my tools to see if they could go or not. Mostly HF stuff on purpose, 
it went in the bin if they didn't approve.

I probably got flagged because I had a one way ticket, too.

-D

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> On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:39 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Back in the early 80s I was flying from BOS to DCA with a colleague, we get 
> on the plane, after we get up a ways he pulls out his briefcase to get some 
> document or something, his loaded .38 was sitting there, he had gone to the 
> range the night before and forgot to take it out when he got home.  Oops!  No 
> big deal...  We got a good laugh out of that.  he got it back home that 
> evening too, I think he told them and unloaded it and it was OK.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Spring Stretch Results

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Michael,

Just follow the clear plastic return line from the filter assembly that goes to 
a banjo bolt on the engine side of the IP. You'll know you've found it when you 
see the banjo bolt that looks like it has a bolt head with a lock nut 
underneath it.

-D

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> On Mar 27, 2017, at 9:26 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Could someone post the email with picture of the location of this spring/nut? 
>  Or the description? I can't find the original email and I want to give it a 
> try in 85 300D. 
> Thanks 
> Mike 
> 
> Michael E. Esh
> 
> 
>> On Mar 27, 2017, at 8:53 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I still haven't driven the 300D since I did the spring stretch.  Once I do 
>> I'll report back.
>> 
>> I'm sort of interested in the OM603's version of this and how it might 
>> affect that engine. There are some threads on PeachParts about low power or 
>> poor performance on the OM603 relative to this part.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On Mar 27, 2017, at 9:19 AM, MG via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That is my thought. I believe the spring may have been weak enough to lower 
>>> the pressure in the pump to the point where the fuel wasn't filling the 
>>> injector pistons all the way especially the last ones in line. It may also 
>>> have advanced the timing some. In the injection pump on the GM 6.2 and 6.5 
>>> when the ignition is turned to start a wire that goes to the injection pump 
>>> pulls the relief valve open which the manual says, if I remember correctly, 
>>> drops the pressure in the injection pump to 0, retarding the injection 
>>> timing by I think 4 deg. The normal pressure in there is about 10-12lbs. My 
>>> thought is the same thing is happening here even though the pumps are 
>>> different the principle is probably the same.
>>> 
>>> In any case the more even idle and the quieter engine under power as well 
>>> as the better response seem to point to that conclusion. Though I really 
>>> need to do that 2mm chain stretch test to see what my chain stretch 
>>> actually is. The quick and dirty method says around 4-5deg but that's not 
>>> very precise.
>>> 
>>> Anyway even the manual recommends stretching the spring to 27mm if the 
>>> pressure is low. No I didn't check the pressure but given the age of the 
>>> car I have little doubt that it wasn't where it once was when new.
>>> 
>>> My next little project is to put an electric pressure gauge on the line 
>>> between the final filter and the pump to keep track of the pressure while 
>>> driving. This should tell me when my filter is getting to the point of 
>>> needing a change.
>>> 
>>> Manfred
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Spring Stretch Results

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I still haven't driven the 300D since I did the spring stretch.  Once I do I'll 
report back.

I'm sort of interested in the OM603's version of this and how it might affect 
that engine. There are some threads on PeachParts about low power or poor 
performance on the OM603 relative to this part.

Dan

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> On Mar 27, 2017, at 9:19 AM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> That is my thought. I believe the spring may have been weak enough to lower 
> the pressure in the pump to the point where the fuel wasn't filling the 
> injector pistons all the way especially the last ones in line. It may also 
> have advanced the timing some. In the injection pump on the GM 6.2 and 6.5 
> when the ignition is turned to start a wire that goes to the injection pump 
> pulls the relief valve open which the manual says, if I remember correctly, 
> drops the pressure in the injection pump to 0, retarding the injection timing 
> by I think 4 deg. The normal pressure in there is about 10-12lbs. My thought 
> is the same thing is happening here even though the pumps are different the 
> principle is probably the same.
> 
> In any case the more even idle and the quieter engine under power as well as 
> the better response seem to point to that conclusion. Though I really need to 
> do that 2mm chain stretch test to see what my chain stretch actually is. The 
> quick and dirty method says around 4-5deg but that's not very precise.
> 
> Anyway even the manual recommends stretching the spring to 27mm if the 
> pressure is low. No I didn't check the pressure but given the age of the car 
> I have little doubt that it wasn't where it once was when new.
> 
> My next little project is to put an electric pressure gauge on the line 
> between the final filter and the pump to keep track of the pressure while 
> driving. This should tell me when my filter is getting to the point of 
> needing a change.
> 
> Manfred
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[MBZ] Today's 300SEL Fun

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Drive to work was uneventful. Didn't get any rumbling at freeway speeds on the 
drive in, so I'm assuming all is now well relative to the drive train.  I'll be 
curious to get a tank of fuel through this beast to see what kind of mileage it 
gets without all the service related stuff that affected the first tank I ran 
through it. The gas gauge seems to move around a lot even when the tank is 
full. I'm wondering if someone disassembled it or the disc has fallen off the 
bottom of the sender. That would allow the float to move around a lot more than 
it should, eliminating the dampening it provides.

I need to snag an analog VOM so I can adjust the CIS duty cycle. I've tested 
the input from the temperature sensor and other external things and they're all 
within spec, so I'm hoping the system is pretty much dialed in.

-D

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Re: [MBZ] 300sdl ac compressor

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I was able to take mine apart without any special tools other than snap ring 
pliers.

It's really, really easy to reseal these.

And shame on you, Kaleb - how can you have all that stuff and not have at least 
one pair of snap ring pliers??

-D

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> On Mar 26, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a clutch holding tool but need to locate or go get some snap ring 
> pliers. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 26, 2017, at 11:35 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Just do the seals (front, rear, and top), they are easy once you get past
>> the clutch.  If you've got the clutch tool, this is a no-brainer.
>> 
>> I'm going on something like ten years on the compressor I put new seals in.
>> 
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> So I removed the compressor from the sdl with the intentions of replacing
>>> it with a new one I had on the shelf. I pulled the top like attachment
>>> plate and it's got the 4 individual ports where as the new one has the
>>> single large rectangle plate. I did around a bit and all the used
>>> compressors I have on the shelf have the 4 port deal. I have replaced many
>>> compressors with the rectangle plate. I found one that was still mounted to
>>> the engine and it does have the correct top plate but just to make are I
>>> decided to test mount the compressor. Nope, it ain't right, mounting holes
>>> are too far apart. Crap, so I am shut down for the moment. I can either
>>> just put in a used one and hope it works to get I done today, order the
>>> seal kit like poos does and reseal one of the used ones I have, or get a
>>> new/rebuilt one. Crap. I am sure poos would say get the seals and go that
>>> route but I am scared.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Engine rebuilders [was: Re: Hey Kyle!]

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Yes, ADSIT has a horrible reputation, but I heard a while back that they 
changed management and were getting better. Good luck with that, guys.

-D

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> On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:38 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
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> 
> On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 14:58:41 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> It is kind of like sun valley transmissions. If you are going to pay
>> for a rebuild, go to the place that has been doing it the longest. It
>> is the same money.
>>...
>> http://mercedesengines.net/
> 
>  From some old emails:
> 
> ===
> From: Marshall Booth 
> To: die...@mbz.org
> Reply-To: die...@mbz.org
> Subject: Re: [DIESEL] Engine rebuilders
> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 13:27:28 -0400
> Sender: owner-die...@mbz.org
> Organization: University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
> 
> Adsit has a VERY poor reputation and has been the subject of more
> customer dissatisfaction than any other Mercedes parts supplier that I
> know of (but I could have missed one or two).
> 
> Metric Motors and Noels are the two with the best reputation in the US
> that I know of.
> 
> http://noel1.bizland.com/HOME_OF_MERCEDES-BENZ_AT_NOELS.htm
> 
> http://www.mercedesengines.net/300s.htm  
> 
> Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Sad local 1983 300SD on BAT

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Yeah, that's nuts, but it's what I've been finding as I've looked for one 
myself.

-D

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> On Mar 23, 2017, at 8:21 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Winning Bid USD $4,550
> 
> Looked at most to be a $2500 car
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 3/22/17 12:44 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> Get your bids in.  Someone will either steal or overpay for this sad W126.
>> Vienna, VA is just SW of D.C.
>> 
>> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-mercedes-benz-300sd-2/
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> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] W126 Weird Hose

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It got compromised because the clamp I used to clamp it off perforated the 
hose. I'm comfortable with the integrity of the hose itself.

I'm going to look for a metal or plastic sleeve for the repair. I'm not 
terribly keen on the silicone tape thing, as a repair like this tends to fail 
again when you least expect it.

Thanks, everyone. It's good to have some folks to bounce these things off of 
for different viewpoints.

-D

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> On Mar 23, 2017, at 6:40 AM, Karl Wittnebel  wrote:
> 
> Penny wise, pound foolish. Odds of durable patch are pretty much zero. High 
> chance of failure and overheating engine on freeway with attendant head 
> issues.
> 
> I like the cut and splice metal sleeve in idea. But it cracked for a reason. 
> I never really mind shelling out cash for oe hoses when needed, because then 
> I no longer have to think about that hose for a decade or whatever. I think I 
> destroyed one like that on the 617 at the back of the head when the head came 
> off; it looked fine but when I pulled on it to remove, the inside of a bend 
> came apart.. They all got replaced with hoses from Tom Hanson. When you 
> manilulate it to splice you may crack it again in another spot, so be careful 
> not to pull too hard on it.
> 
> 
>> On Mar 22, 2017 6:35 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes"  
>> wrote:
>> Good point, and something to consider for sure.
>> 
>> As I mentioned in an earlier post, the hose itself is in good condition and 
>> does not appear likely to fail otherwise.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> > On Mar 22, 2017, at 9:19 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > I don't like the idea of patching it, failure of a coolant hose can be 
>> > catastrophic.  Maybe splice in a metal pipe with MB hose clamps?
>> >
>> > Could the hose be ready to fail in another place?
>> > --
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>> > Charleston SC
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>> > '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] OK guys it's time to grow up

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

The Lethal Weapon franchise is the adult equivalent of the "Land Before Time" 
kids series. Massage the story line to make it marginally different and spit 
out another to cash in.

I kid you not, there must have been 20 or more iterations of "Land Before 
Time", and my kids had to see/own every one...

-D

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> On Mar 22, 2017, at 1:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You want implausible?  Watch Lethal Weapon 3 with Renee Russo as a martial
> arts expert with Mel Gibson and Danny Glover as buddycops.
> 
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I'm given to understand they went to great lengths to make everything
>> plausible. For instance maybe you could do the thing but it would take an
>> implausibly long time or be ridiculously difficult or require a tremendous
>> about of the stuff you were doing it with but it COULD be done.
>> Unlike the A-Team that could make ANYTHING bulletproof with a gas torch
>> and a couple trash cans.
>> -Curt
>> 
>>  From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 1:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OK guys it's time to grow up
>> 
>> McGuyver was immensely popular with urbanites who have no clue about how
>> things really work.  for the working people who make products repair,
>> or install products, it is goofy as anything from hollyweird.
>> 
>> The premise is good, but it needed to be realistic.
>> 
>> Mission impossible (original tv) had some similar premises, but was a
>> good show, not hokey like mcdumber.
>>> Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>> March 22, 2017 at 12:23 PM
>>> The first season is pretty good but as it went on they were clearly
>>> grasping for ideas. The longer Richard Dean Anderson's mullet gets the
>>> farther you are into the series and the lamer it is.Remember that the
>>> '80s was a bd time for TV. That said I still like it.
>>> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OK guys it's time to grow up

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There is a local television feed on cable that's a national provider in most 
markets called "MeTV". They show all kinds of older TV shows, like Hogan's 
Heroes, Twilight Zone, etc., etc.  One of the shows they run is MacGyver, which 
precedes Hogan's Heroes (which I often watch before I fall to sleep.)

I never watched the show when it aired, but have heard about it, especially the 
spoofs on Saturday Night Live.  I occasionally see the last few minutes of it, 
and since having done so, have found that it's got to be one of the goofiest 
bad 80s shows that ever existed

-D

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>  wrote:
> 
> I don't think its specifically a region, MacGyver was supposed to be from 
> Minnesota. Its an attitude thing. I've got it, most here on the list have it, 
> lots of people don't.
> -Curt
> 
>  From: Mountain Man 
> To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
>  
> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 11:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OK guys it's time to grow up
> 
> Curt wrote:
>> ... "What will you do if it breaks?" "Uuuuh, fix it?"
> 
> definitely new england
> use it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without
> tin.tin
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Re: [MBZ] Sad local 1983 300SD on BAT

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Why is it sad?

And yes, someone is already overpaying at the current $3005 bid.

That being said, values on these cars has gone up significantly in the recent 
past.

-D

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> On Mar 22, 2017, at 12:44 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> 
> Get your bids in.  Someone will either steal or overpay for this sad W126.
> Vienna, VA is just SW of D.C.
> 
> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-mercedes-benz-300sd-2/
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Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Question / Weirdness

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I'm sure the issue will resurface.  I'll snag a new glow plug on my next order 
from an aftermarket supplier. That way I'll have one handy when I feel the need 
for some serious car repair self abuse.

-D

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> On Mar 22, 2017, at 8:31 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The diagnostic circuit is not perfect, so it doesn't always tell you that
> there is a problem.  The glow plug is still bad.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:28 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Worked normally this morning. Ambient around 60F, took 25-30 seconds to
>> glow, no glow lights on the 25 minute drive to work.
>> 
>> Hmmm.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Put some used injectors in The White Whale

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Other than tongue, the alternate and far more effective means of lapping 
injector halves is with a glass plate and emery cloth or very fine sandpaper.

-D

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> On Mar 22, 2017, at 8:21 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
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> 
> I didn't lap them at all neither by tongue nor by some other abrasive, just
> cleaned and put them back together.  What would be the proper method for
> lapping, some abrasive like valve grinding compound on a plate of glass?
> 
> I used diesel purge to try to clean them at first, and then as the assembly
> lube.  Diesel purge didn't really cut the carbon like I had hoped, but
> brake cleaner did a pretty good job of loosening it up.
> 
> Car ran very nicely this a.m. except for the uneven idle, but then that is
> how it would perform before after a diesel purge treatment.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 8:04 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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> 
>> Yeah, the one time I tried the DIY injector rebuild didn't go so well.
>> Lapping the injector halves was the worst. It was probably a week before I
>> could get the taste of diesel out of my mouth.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Put some used injectors in The White Whale

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Yeah, the one time I tried the DIY injector rebuild didn't go so well.  Lapping 
the injector halves was the worst. It was probably a week before I could get 
the taste of diesel out of my mouth.

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> On Mar 21, 2017, at 10:36 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
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> 
> I had some free time tonight, so I decided to clean up the two fouled
> injectors (that had been run without heat shields) and put that whole set
> back in while I wait for Mark to properly set the injectors with the new
> Monark nozzles.
> 
> I'm not very good at cleaning injectors apparently, the engine ran pretty
> badly once I got them all in and the lines bled.  I ran a can of diesel
> purge through the car straight, that helped immensely, and then went for a
> test drive.  The idle is not as smooth as it used to be, but the knocking
> is about 95% gone.  I'll run these injectors for a few days and then swap
> them out with the Monark nozzle injectors later this week.
> 
> I've also got fuel leaking from between the two halves of the nozzle holder
> body on #1 injector.  I'd need more practice and better tools before I'd be
> any good at injector work.
> -
> Max
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Re: [MBZ] power seat

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Check the BW forum, but if my memory serves me correctly the differences are 
significant due to the inclusion of the memory function in the Gen II controls.

-D

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> On Mar 22, 2017, at 12:25 AM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> The seat controls on the 300SD are sort of messed up.   I was wondering if I 
> could swap in the Gen II controls into a Gen I.  The old style is hard wired, 
> so I would need to hack into the wires and splice the connectors.  Anybody 
> know the pin out or wire designation?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

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We use it for grilling shrimp, too. Works great. Ours looks something like this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/112327610830?lpid=82=ps_ref=http%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F1%252F711-117182-37290-0%252F2%253Fmtid%253D1588%2526kwid%253D1%2526crlp%253D53601919689_324272%2526itemid%253D112327610830%2526targetid%253D73951648147%2526rpc%253D0.06%2526rpc_upld_id%253D999%2526device%253Dt%2526mpre%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.ebay.com%25252Fulk%25252Fitm%25252Flike%25252F112327610830%25253Flpid%25253D82%252526chn%25253Dps%2526adtype%253Dpla%2526googleloc%253D9012098%2526poi%253D%2526campaignid%253D239125209%2526adgroupid%253D14978428809%2526rlsatarget%253Dpla-73951648147%2526gclid%253DCLjvtsPf59ICFdgYgQods1IDPg%2526srcrot%253D711-117182-37290-0%2526rvr_id%253D1186857422251_noapp=true

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> On Mar 21, 2017, at 8:40 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> I've seen those sold for grilling soft fish like haddock.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> To: Okie Benz  
> Cc: Dan Penoff 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 5:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun
> 
> I do mine on the gas grille.  I have a metal pan that’s got a ceramic coating 
> and small holes punched in it.  Sort of like a heavy duty cookie sheet with 
> perforations.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On Mar 20, 2017, at 10:14 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > I'd love to cook this on the gas grille, but would need larger pieces so
> > they don't fall through the grate.
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] Becker BE-1432

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In a nutshell, every time an incorrect code is entered a watchdog timer in the 
radio's logic resets and adds more time to the previous interval.  In other 
words, the more you attempt to enter incorrect codes the longer it will be 
before you're allowed to re-enter a code. The timer increments in pretty large 
amounts, as after making just a few attempts it can take many hours before it 
resets, possibly over a day. The timer only runs while the radio is powered up, 
so powering it down doesn't gain anything in the way of time.

-D

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> On Mar 20, 2017, at 1:10 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
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> Thanks Kaleb -
> 
> 
>> On 03/20/2017 12:37 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> You probably have to wait 24 hours
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Guys,
>>> I bought a used Becker and when I powered it up all it does is flash 
>>> "Wait".  I have the security code but it never asked for it.I put my 
>>> old Becker back in and it performed normally - flashed "Wait" then asked 
>>> for the code.
>>> Any ideas?
>>> LarryT
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Re: [MBZ] My $500 124 cabriolet project is finally home

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Outside looks nice. Any idea of the condition of the hydraulics?

The very, very best hydraulic cylinder rebuild guy in the world is Klauss at 
Top Hydraulics. And his stuff is very reasonably priced, too.

-D

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> On Mar 20, 2017, at 12:36 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
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> Here she is.  Lot's and lots of work ahead, but "she's got good bones".
> 
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Re: [MBZ] My $500 124 cabriolet project is finally home

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Didn't happen if there are no pictures.

-D

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> On Mar 20, 2017, at 11:29 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
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> 
> Hey Max,
> It sounds pretty good!   How's the soft top?  IIRC those thingsare pretty 
> expensive to have professionally installed.   Sends me some photos if you get 
> a chance.  Do you plan this to be a daily driver or a fix and sell?  Did they 
> ever put manual trans in those?  Doubt it...
> Larry
> 
>> On 03/20/2017 9:49 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> So now I have something to keep me out the streets.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>   I bought this car from a tow company that was selling it 
>> as abandoned
>> property.  Tow Co. had already gotten the title, so I've got a good title
>> for it.
>> 
>> Driver's side window was left rolled completely down for several years, so
>> the interior is just a little scruffy.  Someone tried to steal the car at
>> some point, so the ignition lock is messed up as well as the center console
>> which was torn into to get the transmission parking lock released.
>> -
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[MBZ] Todd Knutson

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

A lot of you here know Todd.  Todd and his family lost their 21 year old son 
last week.

If you want to reach out to Todd you can do so at:  to...@wi.rr.com

I am sure they would be appreciative of any and all kind words and support.

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Re: [MBZ] One for Mitch.....

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You know those are the standard Euro wheel covers of that vintage?  That's what 
the folks on the Continent got when we got bundts.

-D

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> On Mar 17, 2017, at 9:55 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
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> I find the included jumpstarter somewhat...unencouraging.
> 
> I do like the wheels, though.
> 
> On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 6:12 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> ...wherever he may be (buried under tax forms?)
>> 
>> https://flint.craigslist.org/cto/6041521231.html
>> 
>> Nice Eurorific wheel covers, too. Interior crap is included at no
>> additional cost as current owner is too lazy to clean the car themselves.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] If there were ever a couple of Kleb cars....

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Good point - for the diesels, which she rarely drives. They're "too slow" for 
her. She also doesn't like the larger S class cars. She likes her SL500 the 
best.

I apologize to that car every time I get in it, because I know she just 
thrashes the poor thing. I'll give it credit that it has held up well and is 
probably the least troublesome MB I've ever had.

-D

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> On Mar 16, 2017, at 10:33 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
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> At least you don't lack for Italian tuneups.  ;-)
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Who is Best?

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Mercedes is about $100

Corteco (OEM) is about $30

Remainder are $20 and below (not under consideration as this range is clearly 
substandard.) No more Lemförder, NLA. They were OEM prior to Corteco.

I'm going with the Corteco. A new bearing including all the goodies like dust 
boots and such from Mercedes is only around $30. Go figure.

-D

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> On Mar 17, 2017, at 12:54 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
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> Fact-based decisions are best.  What are the costs for the MB part, and the 
> other parts?  
> -- 
> Max Dillon
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> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
>> On March 16, 2017 9:35:46 PM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> I'd go MB for that.  A lot of the oe/oem aftermarket stuff is too soft.
>> 
>>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>> March 16, 2017 at 6:49 PM
>>> I am looking at some drive train (soft) parts for the 300SEL. 
>>> Understand that I want to minimize my investment, but not at the cost
>> 
>>> of using a part that I know will crap out in a year (URO.)
>>> 
>>> A drive shaft center support, for example:
>>> 
>>> Febi/Bilstein
>>> 
>>> Corteco
>>> 
>>> Meyle
>>> 
>>> Vaico (URO/APA?)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I’m guessing Corteco is probably the best quality short of an MB
>> part.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Do I?

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You can find them cheaper elsewhere:

https://www.amazon.com/Mityvac-7201-Fluid-Evacuator-Plus/dp/B0002SR7TC

-D

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> What does a new one cost?
> 
>> On Mar 17, 2017 5:28 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes"  
>> wrote:
>> $40.00 + to ship?  Hardly a deal if it gets bid ups much more.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> > On Mar 17, 2017, at 1:02 AM, clay via Mercedes  
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>> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fluid-Evacuator-Plus-2-3-Gallons-8-8-Liters-Mityvac-MV7201-w-Box-/332156173191?hash=item4d560cfb87:g:c1AAAOSwXYtYysjF
>> >
>> > I have a good Topsider, but … you never know when you might want more than 
>> > just one
>> >
>> > I think I will pass, maybe somebody here needs it
>> >
>> >
>> > clay
>> >
>> > 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
>> > 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>> > 1986 SDL - Polei
>> > 1982 300 SD - Allen
>> >
>> > retired models-
>> > 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>> > 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>> > 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>> > POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>> >
>> >
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[MBZ] Kaleb Car Alert!!!!

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And it even has working AC!

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/6047277875.html

-D

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[MBZ] One for Mitch.....

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...wherever he may be (buried under tax forms?)

https://flint.craigslist.org/cto/6041521231.html

Nice Eurorific wheel covers, too. Interior crap is included at no additional 
cost as current owner is too lazy to clean the car themselves.

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Re: [MBZ] If there were ever a couple of Kleb cars....

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Two speeds:

STOP; and
GO GO GO

She actually went through a set of front brake pads (OE organic) in 15k miles 
on a W124. Smoked those babies.

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> On Mar 16, 2017, at 2:58 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
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> If she drives anything like my wife, I can just about imagine how it would be.
> My wife drives a 4 cylinder Honda Accord like it was F1. It is a good thing 
> those little engines are designed to rev.
> 
> RB
> 
>> On 16/03/2017 1:52 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> Provide details...
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3/16/17 2:51 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I need another W140 like I need a hole in my head.  Especially a V12.
>>> 
>>> Visions of the wife tearing up the streets with it
>>> 
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] If there were ever a couple of Kleb cars....

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I need another W140 like I need a hole in my head.  Especially a V12.

Visions of the wife tearing up the streets with it

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Re: [MBZ] If there were ever a couple of Kleb cars....

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At least.

I'm now working on a lead for a 1999 CL600. 

-D

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> On Mar 16, 2017, at 1:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> What makes you think he doesn't already have such a warehouse? Over the
> past five years I have documented 27 cars that he has purchased fixed up.
> Give or take 15 or 25.
> 
> On Mar 16, 2017 12:03 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" <
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> Poos needs to go buy an old warehouse in a ratty part of town and become
> the Flahduh Kleb, that's a hell of a deal.
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
> 
>> On 3/15/17 11:00 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>> 2 junkers and a 16' dovetail trail for $1500, how could you go wrong?
>> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>> March 15, 2017 at 6:52 PM
>>> …these would be it:
>>> 
>>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/6045696939.html
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
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> large or petty,
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Re: [MBZ] Strange Noises, Too

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FLAPS (Advance Auto) has 3 ounce packets for a couple of bucks. Just ordered a 
couple online with my 20% discount. I'll pick them up on the way home.

-D

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> On Mar 15, 2017, at 1:25 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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> I put in my go to:  Molykote BR2 gun grease.  Never had any problems with it. 
>  better than factory grease.  Synthetic base with moly added.
> 
>> Dan--- via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> March 15, 2017 at 10:06 AM
>> 300SEL rumbles starting around 50 mph, definitely perceptible by 65. You can 
>> even slightly feel it in your seat, too.
>> 
>> I'm thinking center support bearing, but I'm also wondering if the inner CV 
>> joint that has a cracked boot could be doing it, too? There is still grease 
>> in the joint/boot and it doesn't make noise or sound "grindy" if you move it 
>> around.
>> 
>> On that same subject, I've got a split boot I'm going to put on it this 
>> weekend - what kind of grease should I use to load it up before I close 
>> everything up? I know it lost a little bit of grease when the boot cracked, 
>> as I can see where it flung it on the bottom of the car.
>> 
>> I've got a tube of Mobil 1 chassis grease. Could I use that?
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Strange Noises, Too

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Me too.

-D

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> On Mar 15, 2017, at 11:20 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sounds like drive shaft vibration to me. 
> 
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[MBZ] Strange Noises, Too

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

300SEL rumbles starting around 50 mph, definitely perceptible by 65. You can 
even slightly feel it in your seat, too.

I'm thinking center support bearing, but I'm also wondering if the inner CV 
joint that has a cracked boot could be doing it, too?  There is still grease in 
the joint/boot and it doesn't make noise or sound "grindy" if you move it 
around.

On that same subject, I've got a split boot I'm going to put on it this weekend 
- what kind of grease should I use to load it up before I close everything up? 
I know it lost a little bit of grease when the boot cracked, as I can see where 
it flung it on the bottom of the car.

I've got a tube of Mobil 1 chassis grease. Could I use that?

-D



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Re: [MBZ] Strange noises

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

In the W140 vergassers there is all sorts of sheet metal shielding in the 
tunnel. Between that and the insulation that falls off, I'll bet you've got a 
piece of insulation that's flopping around or hitting the drive shaft.

-D

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> On Mar 15, 2017, at 10:08 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It's not that at all and no vibration. It sounds like the metal shield that 
> sits up above the shaft is rattling or hitting something. I recently replaced 
> the motor mounts but it's still not as smooth as it should be, I'm wondering 
> if the trans mount is making enough metal to metal contact somewhere to cause 
> that high pitched rattle. 
> 
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>> On Mar 15, 2017, at 9:03 AM, Craig via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On Wed, 15 Mar 2017 09:25:55 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> The driveshaft will move around a bit and whumpwhump as it clunks
>>> around.
>> 
>> Yeah, what he said, except whumpwhumpwhumpwhumpwhump or
>> thumpthumpthumpthumpthump ...
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>>> Horses whinny.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
 On 3/15/17 8:57 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 If center supports make noise, and you would not describe it as
 whinny, how would you describe it?
 
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> On Mar 14, 2017, at 10:45 PM, Craig via Mercedes
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> On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 22:25:26 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
>> I drove the 140 diesel today and at about 55 and up I start getting
>> a strange whinny/rattling noise. It sort of sounds like either the
>> trans mount is collapsed or some metal cover under the car is
>> rattling.
> I would expect noises from those two sources to be very different.
> 
> Have you had anyone ride along in the car to see if the additional
> ears can pinpoint the source? Maybe have you rider in the front
> passenger seat and then in the rear seats? Maybe the rider drives
> and you listen from both locations?
> 
> 
>> The noise quits when you get down to about 45, then starts up again
>> at
>> 55. Gets louder the faster you go. Do center supports make noise?
> Yes, but in no way would I describe it as "whiney".
> 
> 
>> Planning on taking it out of town tomorrow.
> May it perform flawlessly for you.
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Re: [MBZ] Klima Konfusion about part numbers

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Read my last post. I explained it.

-D

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> On Mar 15, 2017, at 10:10 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> So what is the knob used for?
> 
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>> On Mar 15, 2017, at 6:31 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The relay on my W126 300SEL is not a KLIMA, it's a MAS. It will have a knob 
>> (not a button) on the top with an "I" and an "O" positions, indication that 
>> it is locked down ("I") or open "(O").
>> 
>> It does have the functions of a KLIMA, but it also interfaces with the fuel 
>> system idle control as well.  I don't totally understand the interaction, 
>> but I know that's a part of its operation.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
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>>> On Mar 14, 2017, at 11:04 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> According to what I find on the bay of fleas:
>>> 001 545 80 05  300D, 300D2.5, 190D 2.5, 300SDL (124/201/126)
>>> 
>>> 003 545 56 05   M103/M014 models  124/126
>>> 
>>> The info from  Mother Benz would be more trustworthy...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have a way to find the applications for the 2 Klima numbers?
>>> 001 545 80 05 Which I think may be for a M103 vergasser as it has the 
>>> button on top like Dan's, but it apparrently WAS working in the car.  It 
>>> has extra pins.  (probably does not matter in the 124.133 socket)
>>> 
>>> 003 545 56 05
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> MB of South atlanta website says 002 545 65 05 is the right Klima relay for 
>>> 87 300D 124.133   when I look up the part number and look at what it fits, 
>>> 124.133 is not listed.
>>> 
>>> Anyone know for sure what is the right PN for the Klima on this car?
>>> 
>>> I have in my hands: 001 545 80 05 Which I think may be for a M103 vergasser 
>>> as it has the button on top like Dan's, but it apparrently WAS working in 
>>> the car.  It has extra pins.  (probably does not matter in the 124.133 
>>> socket)
>>> 
>>> 003 545 56 05
>>> 
>>> I have not yet looked up what these fit.
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Re: [MBZ] Klima Konfusion about part numbers

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The relay on my W126 300SEL is not a KLIMA, it's a MAS. It will have a knob 
(not a button) on the top with an "I" and an "O" positions, indication that it 
is locked down ("I") or open "(O").

It does have the functions of a KLIMA, but it also interfaces with the fuel 
system idle control as well.  I don't totally understand the interaction, but I 
know that's a part of its operation.

Dan

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> On Mar 14, 2017, at 11:04 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> According to what I find on the bay of fleas:
> 001 545 80 05  300D, 300D2.5, 190D 2.5, 300SDL (124/201/126)
> 
> 003 545 56 05   M103/M014 models  124/126
> 
> The info from  Mother Benz would be more trustworthy...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Does anyone have a way to find the applications for the 2 Klima numbers?
> 001 545 80 05 Which I think may be for a M103 vergasser as it has the button 
> on top like Dan's, but it apparrently WAS working in the car.  It has extra 
> pins.  (probably does not matter in the 124.133 socket)
> 
> 003 545 56 05
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> MB of South atlanta website says 002 545 65 05 is the right Klima relay for 
> 87 300D 124.133   when I look up the part number and look at what it fits, 
> 124.133 is not listed.
> 
> Anyone know for sure what is the right PN for the Klima on this car?
> 
> I have in my hands: 001 545 80 05 Which I think may be for a M103 vergasser 
> as it has the button on top like Dan's, but it apparrently WAS working in the 
> car.  It has extra pins.  (probably does not matter in the 124.133 socket)
> 
> 003 545 56 05
> 
> I have not yet looked up what these fit.
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