Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people
WE have deer all over D.C., especially on the grounds of the VP's estate. On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > Plenty o' roadkill deer and possum and coons, no work needed to collect > fresh meat on our road. I have dragged more than a few of dead deer out of > my driveway and the roadside in front of my vast estate. Went out one > morning to get the paper and there was a big deer in the median of the > road, figured I would go out later and drag it into the woods for the > clean-up crew. It was gone then, figured someone picked it up for supper > or dogs. > > --R > > > On 1/27/14 8:59 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: > >> Yeah but if the fella learned to use the bommerang, he could go out and >> hunt animals with it and not have to buy meat. >> WB could at least have signed the bommerang I suppose? >> >> Hendrik >> who does not know how to use a bommerrang >> >> On 28/01/14 09:09, Rich Thomas wrote: >> >>> So a funny anecdote about rich idiots. Last year Bill corralled a bunch >>> of his rich buds and had them down here at Kiawah for a coupla days to talk >>> about this philanthropy giveawayyourmoney thing. We have a little airport >>> here, it was wall-to-wall with jets. This old black guy who lives up the >>> road runs a halfass limo company, has a coupla cars. He got tapped to give >>> these guys rides to and from the airport, somehow. >>> >>> So he picks up Warren Buffet to take him to the airport, maybe a 20min >>> drive. They get there, WB thanks him, and instead of flipping him a 20 for >>> the ride as a tip, he gives him a boomerang. A f'n boomerang. I guess he >>> got it at the conference or something and had no use for it so he gave it >>> to the driver as a "tip." The old guy was cussing WB something fierce and >>> telling that story all over the island, what a cheapass he was. >>> >>> Trickle down boomerangs! >>> >>> --R >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people
Plenty o' roadkill deer and possum and coons, no work needed to collect fresh meat on our road. I have dragged more than a few of dead deer out of my driveway and the roadside in front of my vast estate. Went out one morning to get the paper and there was a big deer in the median of the road, figured I would go out later and drag it into the woods for the clean-up crew. It was gone then, figured someone picked it up for supper or dogs. --R On 1/27/14 8:59 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: Yeah but if the fella learned to use the bommerang, he could go out and hunt animals with it and not have to buy meat. WB could at least have signed the bommerang I suppose? Hendrik who does not know how to use a bommerrang On 28/01/14 09:09, Rich Thomas wrote: So a funny anecdote about rich idiots. Last year Bill corralled a bunch of his rich buds and had them down here at Kiawah for a coupla days to talk about this philanthropy giveawayyourmoney thing. We have a little airport here, it was wall-to-wall with jets. This old black guy who lives up the road runs a halfass limo company, has a coupla cars. He got tapped to give these guys rides to and from the airport, somehow. So he picks up Warren Buffet to take him to the airport, maybe a 20min drive. They get there, WB thanks him, and instead of flipping him a 20 for the ride as a tip, he gives him a boomerang. A f'n boomerang. I guess he got it at the conference or something and had no use for it so he gave it to the driver as a "tip." The old guy was cussing WB something fierce and telling that story all over the island, what a cheapass he was. Trickle down boomerangs! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and shoot 99% of the non citizens
clay wrote: > Book your body for science. Gotta find that website. For years I have said that living at Chernobyl would be sublime. From what I understand things thrive there despite the high numbers of bad stuff. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and shoot 99% of the non citizens
H&F wrote: > Yeah perhaps we could shoot a few unemployed, they produce nothing and are a > drain on the rest of society. Come visit again. I provide get away car and lead. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the non citizens
OK Don wrote: > Wrong - the bad apples are born with that propensity and are pushed over > the edge by early abuse, bad circumstances (poverty), etc. > I hear ya. Somehow it seems that lead is a good solution, but that is not allowed. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and shoot 99% of the non citizens
A bullet is expensive. And you would have to hunt down the unemployed. Best to allow them to find their own way. Make it so there is no money to be had if you have no viable form of employment/income. Instead of farming Grandma out keep her at home with the family. Bound to be useful instead of being made a bag lady. AS for the young, allow them to find a path to survival. No payment for squirting out babies, or free food. Sell the kids for medical experiments. Book your body for science. Go work in the fields picking tomato and lettuce. Decriminalize small self employment opportunities. Let them be hookers. At least then, the tax man has something to collect. clay On Jan 29, 2014, at 8:23 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: > Yeah perhaps we could shoot a few unemployed, they produce nothing and are a > drain on the rest of society. > I am sure once word gets out that people without jobs get a bullet in the > head, they'll lining up for miles at the local walmart/KFC/subway/etc > > Hendrik > who is not unemployed > > On 30/01/14 12:53, Mountain Man wrote: >> Gerry wrote: >>> An officer could shoot an >>> enlisted man who refused or disobeyed a direct order and there were no >>> criminal penalties filed against the officer, but there was a hearing to >>> determine if the shooting was justified. >> As inhumane as that sounds... It seems appropriat. There seems to be >> waaay too much fret over life and death these days. A few bad apples >> killed under these circumstances and I bet many more bad apples don't >> go bad? - that is the common brainwash we receive. The touchy-feely >> coddle every bad action is losing favor. >> mao >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and shoot 99% of the non citizens
Thats probably the worst argument I've ever seen. Of course the war years were difficult does the author not realize what "fighting for your life" means? Still its probably more true to say something like "The end of the war marked the end of the depression." but changes to the American economy caused by the war probably had more than a little to do with it. -Curt Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 09:57:02 -0700 From: Andrew Strasfogel To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and shoot 99% of the non citizens Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 What "fact"? Just because you repeat a canard it doesn't make it true. . http://blog.independent.org/2010/02/16/one-more-time-world-war-ii-did-not-bring-us-out-of-the-depression/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the non citizens
Wrong - the bad apples are born with that propensity and are pushed over the edge by early abuse, bad circumstances (poverty), etc. Fear of punishment does not deter bad apples. However, capitol punishment or life with possibility of parole does remove them from the general population. On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Mountain Man wrote: > A few bad apples > killed under these circumstances and I bet many more bad apples don't > go bad? - that is the common brainwash we receive. The touchy-feely > coddle every bad action is losing favor. > mao > > -- OK Don "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775 "in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes." - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and shoot 99% of the non citizens
What "fact"? Just because you repeat a canard it doesn't make it true. . http://blog.independent.org/2010/02/16/one-more-time-world-war-ii-did-not-bring-us-out-of-the-depression/ On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Larry T wrote: > Speaking of /*extremes */- I read a book about the "Great Depression" > (the one in the late 20s and 30s) ;-) - it told of employment being so > hard to find that at one of the car factories (maybe more than one) jobs > were very treasured. Seems they would clean the auto bodies with gasoline > to prep them for painting. Some poor fellow - who probably thought he was > lucky to have a job - would wipe the car down until clean. Things being > like they were (emphasis on were) there would be a spark every few days or > weeks with the obvious result. Before the day was done there'd be a line > all the way around one of those very large buildings containing men wanting > to apply for the job. It was a different world. > > Which prompts another little known fact. The thing that brought us > out of the GP (BTW, it wasn't FDRs many pet programs) -- was WW2. The > mentality at the time and pride in this country was so great that in one > small town 4 or 5 men who had been turned down for military service after > Pearl Harbor went home and committed suicide from the shame of being unable > to help defend this great nation. > I wish they hadn't killed themselves - we could have used them to > teach younger generations just how lucky they were to live in the USA. > > Sincerely, > Larry > > > On 1/30/2014 10:37 AM, G Mann wrote: > >> "Your're Fired" would certainly take a much more sinister meaning if that >> happened... >> >> Can't see that idea would gain my support... starving to death with your >> unfed family while looking for work is so much more humane.. >> >> Gad ! it's a cruel world... >> >> Grant... >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Hendrik and Fay >> wrote: >> >> Yeah perhaps we could shoot a few unemployed, they produce nothing and are >>> a drain on the rest of society. >>> I am sure once word gets out that people without jobs get a bullet in the >>> head, they'll lining up for miles at the local walmart/KFC/subway/etc >>> >>> Hendrik >>> who is not unemployed >>> >>> On 30/01/14 12:53, Mountain Man wrote: >>> >>> Gerry wrote: An officer could shoot an > enlisted man who refused or disobeyed a direct order and there were no > criminal penalties filed against the officer, but there was a hearing > to > determine if the shooting was justified. > > As inhumane as that sounds... It seems appropriat. There seems to be waaay too much fret over life and death these days. A few bad apples killed under these circumstances and I bet many more bad apples don't go bad? - that is the common brainwash we receive. The touchy-feely coddle every bad action is losing favor. mao ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and shoot 99% of the non citizens
Speaking of /*extremes */- I read a book about the "Great Depression" (the one in the late 20s and 30s) ;-) - it told of employment being so hard to find that at one of the car factories (maybe more than one) jobs were very treasured. Seems they would clean the auto bodies with gasoline to prep them for painting. Some poor fellow - who probably thought he was lucky to have a job - would wipe the car down until clean. Things being like they were (emphasis on were) there would be a spark every few days or weeks with the obvious result. Before the day was done there'd be a line all the way around one of those very large buildings containing men wanting to apply for the job. It was a different world. Which prompts another little known fact. The thing that brought us out of the GP (BTW, it wasn't FDRs many pet programs) -- was WW2. The mentality at the time and pride in this country was so great that in one small town 4 or 5 men who had been turned down for military service after Pearl Harbor went home and committed suicide from the shame of being unable to help defend this great nation. I wish they hadn't killed themselves - we could have used them to teach younger generations just how lucky they were to live in the USA. Sincerely, Larry On 1/30/2014 10:37 AM, G Mann wrote: "Your're Fired" would certainly take a much more sinister meaning if that happened... Can't see that idea would gain my support... starving to death with your unfed family while looking for work is so much more humane.. Gad ! it's a cruel world... Grant... On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: Yeah perhaps we could shoot a few unemployed, they produce nothing and are a drain on the rest of society. I am sure once word gets out that people without jobs get a bullet in the head, they'll lining up for miles at the local walmart/KFC/subway/etc Hendrik who is not unemployed On 30/01/14 12:53, Mountain Man wrote: Gerry wrote: An officer could shoot an enlisted man who refused or disobeyed a direct order and there were no criminal penalties filed against the officer, but there was a hearing to determine if the shooting was justified. As inhumane as that sounds... It seems appropriat. There seems to be waaay too much fret over life and death these days. A few bad apples killed under these circumstances and I bet many more bad apples don't go bad? - that is the common brainwash we receive. The touchy-feely coddle every bad action is losing favor. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and shoot 99% of the non citizens
"Your're Fired" would certainly take a much more sinister meaning if that happened... Can't see that idea would gain my support... starving to death with your unfed family while looking for work is so much more humane.. Gad ! it's a cruel world... Grant... On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: > Yeah perhaps we could shoot a few unemployed, they produce nothing and are > a drain on the rest of society. > I am sure once word gets out that people without jobs get a bullet in the > head, they'll lining up for miles at the local walmart/KFC/subway/etc > > Hendrik > who is not unemployed > > On 30/01/14 12:53, Mountain Man wrote: > >> Gerry wrote: >> >>> An officer could shoot an >>> enlisted man who refused or disobeyed a direct order and there were no >>> criminal penalties filed against the officer, but there was a hearing to >>> determine if the shooting was justified. >>> >> As inhumane as that sounds... It seems appropriat. There seems to be >> waaay too much fret over life and death these days. A few bad apples >> killed under these circumstances and I bet many more bad apples don't >> go bad? - that is the common brainwash we receive. The touchy-feely >> coddle every bad action is losing favor. >> mao >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and shoot 99% of the non citizens
Yeah perhaps we could shoot a few unemployed, they produce nothing and are a drain on the rest of society. I am sure once word gets out that people without jobs get a bullet in the head, they'll lining up for miles at the local walmart/KFC/subway/etc Hendrik who is not unemployed On 30/01/14 12:53, Mountain Man wrote: Gerry wrote: An officer could shoot an enlisted man who refused or disobeyed a direct order and there were no criminal penalties filed against the officer, but there was a hearing to determine if the shooting was justified. As inhumane as that sounds... It seems appropriat. There seems to be waaay too much fret over life and death these days. A few bad apples killed under these circumstances and I bet many more bad apples don't go bad? - that is the common brainwash we receive. The touchy-feely coddle every bad action is losing favor. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the non citizens
Read Tom Clancey's biography of Fred Franks (I'll give it to you if you want) where he explains that one of the problems in Vietnam and even into the early '80s was the number of young men given the option of prison or the military that went into the military and did a rotten job because they didn't want to be there... -Curt Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 20:44:09 -0500 From: "arche...@embarqmail.com" To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the non citizens Message-ID: <52e9ae69.8000...@embarqmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed That was common practice during the 1930s; prison or the army at $20 per month. That was before soldiers had any rights. An officer could shoot an enlisted man who refused or disobeyed a direct order and there were no criminal penalties filed against the officer, but there was a hearing to determine if the shooting was justified. Gerry On 1/27/2014 11:12 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: > ...I think giving young criminals a choice of serving in the > forces or jail, might be a good thing, as they already have some of > their life taken away. Hendrik who did not serve ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the non citizens
Gerry wrote: > An officer could shoot an > enlisted man who refused or disobeyed a direct order and there were no > criminal penalties filed against the officer, but there was a hearing to > determine if the shooting was justified. As inhumane as that sounds... It seems appropriat. There seems to be waaay too much fret over life and death these days. A few bad apples killed under these circumstances and I bet many more bad apples don't go bad? - that is the common brainwash we receive. The touchy-feely coddle every bad action is losing favor. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the non citizens
That was common practice during the 1930s; prison or the army at $20 per month. That was before soldiers had any rights. An officer could shoot an enlisted man who refused or disobeyed a direct order and there were no criminal penalties filed against the officer, but there was a hearing to determine if the shooting was justified. Gerry On 1/27/2014 11:12 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: ...I think giving young criminals a choice of serving in the forces or jail, might be a good thing, as they already have some of their life taken away. Hendrik who did not serve ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the holes
Hendrik and Fay wrote: I think the Jehovahs are like that? Jaweh's Witnesses don't believe in parts mixing, so no transplants or even plasma transfusions. Another group, I think Christian Scientists, are similar in that regard. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens
Dieselhead wrote: > Except I'd argue that both are aware that there are people who don't know > where the next meal will come from, but only want to use them for their own > political advantage. That seems to be the gig. Imagine you are there - you don't know where the next meal will come from. Are you gonna sign up for food stamps? Not me. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens
I don't think Marie had distain for people, remember she didn't say "let them eat cake" she in fact said brioche which is a kind of sweet bread quite different than cake. She wasn't disdainful she was out of touch, she'd never been hungry and never had to work. She had no clue there were people who didn't have enough to eat. I'm not entirely sure it was her fault as much as the advisors that pretty much ran her world... -Curt Still pretty much fits the current situation. Change the She to HE, her to his, and it also fits mr. moochelle too. Except I'd argue that both are aware that there are people who don't know where the next meal will come from, but only want to use them for their own political advantage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens
"cake" was the burnt crumbs that stick to the pan after baking bread, usually tossed out or to the pigs, or serfs or peasants or whatever the freenchies called them. --R On 1/29/14 6:24 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I don't think Marie had distain for people, remember she didn't say "let them eat cake" she in fact said brioche which is a kind of sweet bread quite different than cake. She wasn't disdainful she was out of touch, she'd never been hungry and never had to work. She had no clue there were people who didn't have enough to eat. I'm not entirely sure it was her fault as much as the advisors that pretty much ran her world... -Curt Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:19:12 -0600 From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Then there was that womanwhassername? moochie antoinette? How did she fare? She had a similar disdain for the people as what moochel antoinette has. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens
I don't think Marie had distain for people, remember she didn't say "let them eat cake" she in fact said brioche which is a kind of sweet bread quite different than cake. She wasn't disdainful she was out of touch, she'd never been hungry and never had to work. She had no clue there were people who didn't have enough to eat. I'm not entirely sure it was her fault as much as the advisors that pretty much ran her world... -Curt Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:19:12 -0600 From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Then there was that womanwhassername? moochie antoinette? How did she fare? She had a similar disdain for the people as what moochel antoinette has. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens
There seems to be a population size at which the "law of diminishing returns" slowly reduces the efficiency and viability of a population as the population exceeds a certain size. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diminishing_returns Populations that exceed that size due to uncontrolled immigration and/or reproduction find themselves becoming less manageable, less productive, less competitive; and the qualilty of life for the population as a whole goes down. Gerry On 1/29/2014 11:03 AM, G Mann wrote: With all respect for your opinion, I still believe we need to "vote them off the island" to take a reality show phrase. We have a potential candidate pool of some 312,000,000 citizens to choose from, why mess around. Part of the problem presently is that we the people have gone soft and allowed the people we voted in to represent our interest to operate without being held responsible. Being barred for life from public office sends a strong message to others who follow to act responsibly and take the oath of office to heart. Setting such a hard limit, I believe, would re-empower the voting citizen. I believe that is a necessary step in the non lethal route to government reform. Or.. we could just wait for the revolt that is likely coming and watch them be dragged into the streets by angry mobs.. History is full of that... what was the Italian guys name again that was hung, upside down, shot 7 times.. etc etc.. ummm Mussolini, was it? just to name one.. and how was it that Kadifi died? Once the tide of public anger rises to the break point,, history repeats it's self.. I'd rather vote and have it really mean something. Grant... [Basically peaceful, in a "get off my lawn" sorta way] On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Tim Crone wrote: On Jan 28, 2014 11:03 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: Last 10 elections I've voted in I wished most strongly for a choice at the ballot that said "NONE OF THE ABOVE" .. if "none of the above" got the most votes, they could never run for or hold public office again in their lifetimes.. In fairness, a negative vote for a particular candidate for a particular office at a particular time doesn't necessarily mean that candidate wouldn't be good for some other office, or at some other time, or with more life experience. I like the NOTA option but I don't think it's reasonable to permanently ban someone who might be a good DA just because no one believed they should be on the Soil and Water Conservation board. Many times I write in Daffy Duck or similar, who would be better candidates than what the democans and republicrats offer. Most of the I wonder how your votes counted in the last election? Too bad we'll never know: http://io9.com/5114481/a-vote-for-the-flying-spaghetti-monster-is-a-vote-for-al-franken-say-minnesota-authorities Personally I am partial to "Redemopublicraticans". Best, Tim Drove to vote in the 300D... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Grant wrote: > Part of the problem presently is that we the people > have gone soft and allowed the people we voted in to represent our interest > to operate without being held responsible. Partially true. Don't forget to factor in the realty of the dumbing down of 312M people, of which, probably 100M are able to be balloted, i.e. a realistic number of 312M should not ever be considered ballot-able, myself included... Add to your proposal that there is zero $$ allowed in the election processes (as long as we are dreaming). While I cannot entirely buy-in to the money is speech argument against recent SC decision, $$ really do buy influence and mind control. The process should be by the people for the people and based on man to man communication of ideas. Tough to do, but I it can be done. Other limits would be needed and proper self-initiated vetting needs to be taught, i.e. because I read the xerox flyer, because I read it on the interwebs, because I heard it on tv/radio - these don't count as vetting. Vetting by definition begins man to man locally. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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With all respect for your opinion, I still believe we need to "vote them off the island" to take a reality show phrase. We have a potential candidate pool of some 312,000,000 citizens to choose from, why mess around. Part of the problem presently is that we the people have gone soft and allowed the people we voted in to represent our interest to operate without being held responsible. Being barred for life from public office sends a strong message to others who follow to act responsibly and take the oath of office to heart. Setting such a hard limit, I believe, would re-empower the voting citizen. I believe that is a necessary step in the non lethal route to government reform. Or.. we could just wait for the revolt that is likely coming and watch them be dragged into the streets by angry mobs.. History is full of that... what was the Italian guys name again that was hung, upside down, shot 7 times.. etc etc.. ummm Mussolini, was it? just to name one.. and how was it that Kadifi died? Once the tide of public anger rises to the break point,, history repeats it's self.. I'd rather vote and have it really mean something. Grant... [Basically peaceful, in a "get off my lawn" sorta way] Then there was that womanwhassername? moochie antoinette? How did she fare? She had a similar disdain for the people as what moochel antoinette has. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens
With all respect for your opinion, I still believe we need to "vote them off the island" to take a reality show phrase. We have a potential candidate pool of some 312,000,000 citizens to choose from, why mess around. Part of the problem presently is that we the people have gone soft and allowed the people we voted in to represent our interest to operate without being held responsible. Being barred for life from public office sends a strong message to others who follow to act responsibly and take the oath of office to heart. Setting such a hard limit, I believe, would re-empower the voting citizen. I believe that is a necessary step in the non lethal route to government reform. Or.. we could just wait for the revolt that is likely coming and watch them be dragged into the streets by angry mobs.. History is full of that... what was the Italian guys name again that was hung, upside down, shot 7 times.. etc etc.. ummm Mussolini, was it? just to name one.. and how was it that Kadifi died? Once the tide of public anger rises to the break point,, history repeats it's self.. I'd rather vote and have it really mean something. Grant... [Basically peaceful, in a "get off my lawn" sorta way] On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Tim Crone wrote: > On Jan 28, 2014 11:03 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Last 10 elections I've voted in I wished most strongly for a choice at > the > >> ballot that said "NONE OF THE ABOVE" .. if "none of the above" got the > most > >> votes, they could never run for or hold public office again in their > >> lifetimes.. > > In fairness, a negative vote for a particular candidate for a particular > office at a particular time doesn't necessarily mean that candidate > wouldn't be good for some other office, or at some other time, or with more > life experience. I like the NOTA option but I don't think it's reasonable > to permanently ban someone who might be a good DA just because no one > believed they should be on the Soil and Water Conservation board. > > > Many times I write in Daffy Duck or similar, who would be better > candidates than what the democans and republicrats offer. Most of the > > I wonder how your votes counted in the last election? Too bad we'll never > know: > > > http://io9.com/5114481/a-vote-for-the-flying-spaghetti-monster-is-a-vote-for-al-franken-say-minnesota-authorities > > Personally I am partial to "Redemopublicraticans". > > Best, > Tim > Drove to vote in the 300D... > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Jan 28, 2014 11:03 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Last 10 elections I've voted in I wished most strongly for a choice at the >> ballot that said "NONE OF THE ABOVE" .. if "none of the above" got the most >> votes, they could never run for or hold public office again in their >> lifetimes.. In fairness, a negative vote for a particular candidate for a particular office at a particular time doesn't necessarily mean that candidate wouldn't be good for some other office, or at some other time, or with more life experience. I like the NOTA option but I don't think it's reasonable to permanently ban someone who might be a good DA just because no one believed they should be on the Soil and Water Conservation board. > Many times I write in Daffy Duck or similar, who would be better candidates than what the democans and republicrats offer. Most of the I wonder how your votes counted in the last election? Too bad we'll never know: http://io9.com/5114481/a-vote-for-the-flying-spaghetti-monster-is-a-vote-for-al-franken-say-minnesota-authorities Personally I am partial to "Redemopublicraticans". Best, Tim Drove to vote in the 300D... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens
Last 10 elections I've voted in I wished most strongly for a choice at the ballot that said "NONE OF THE ABOVE" .. if "none of the above" got the most votes, they could never run for or hold public office again in their lifetimes.. Wouldn't that be good? Hear HEAR! Sign me up! Many times I write in Daffy Duck or similar, who would be better candidates than what the democans and republicrats offer. Most of the time we get a choice between socialists or marxists, or socialist or socialist lite. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens
I've been espousing the idea for awhile. I have 2 steps though. If a plurality of people vote for none of the above we just run the election again but none of the previous candidates can run again since they obviously were unwanted. If 3/4 of people vote none of the above we run the election again but none of the candidates can ever run for ANYTHING again, not even dog catcher. In this way you wouldn't have to choose between the lesser of two evils which is still choosing evil after all. -Curt Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 15:22:45 -0700 From: G Mann To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Last 10 elections I've voted in I wished most strongly for a choice at the ballot that said "NONE OF THE ABOVE" .. if "none of the above" got the most votes, they could never run for or hold public office again in their lifetimes.. Wouldn't that be good? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the pennies and cents
Cents = pennies in US jargon, mate. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: > Was that round about the currency change over? > The meter in pennies and fare in cents? > > Hendrik > who is not old enough to remember that far back, well more than two days > and I'm buggered > > On 29/01/14 07:41, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > >> For everyone's benefit, Australia has a no tipping mentality, or used to >> have one. 40 years ago if you tried to tip a Sydney cabbie he would bite >> your hand off. The meters ran in pennies, so it was always tempting to >> "round up". I remember being driven for what seemed like forever and the >> fare came to 28 OZ cents. >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Philip wrote: > I guess that means you sleep on the ground and shower in truckstops? > Drive until dark. Find a rural church at edge of town. Drive to back and sleep in W123 or on ground. Showers are over rated. Stay calm, no overload. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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H&F wrote: > ...I suppose the next logical step would be no health care... > who believes in modern science Yes, we eliminated ACA. Modern science is as much religion as Jehovahs. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Grant wrote: > Wouldn't that be good? That ballot initiative has my yes vote. But it ain't gonna happen. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> > Andrew wrote: > > > > Who among you tips hotel room maids by leaving a fiver on the > > pillow as you check out? > Mountain wrote: > > I don't do hotels. I guess that means you sleep on the ground and shower in truckstops? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Ahh come on now, we are solving the worlds problems, we have gone from 65 to 35 and I suppose the next logical step would be no health care, survival of the fittest. Which reminds me, aren't there some religious outfits that don't believe in medicine and such? I think the Jehovahs are like that? Hendrik who believes in modern science On 29/01/14 10:57, Scott Ritchey wrote: This thread shows no sign of ending. So as not to fan the flames, I'll make just one final (for me) comment on the subject. When you find yourself in a hole, maybe it's time to stop digging. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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This thread shows no sign of ending. So as not to fan the flames, I'll make just one final (for me) comment on the subject. When you find yourself in a hole, maybe it's time to stop digging. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the pennies and cents
Was that round about the currency change over? The meter in pennies and fare in cents? Hendrik who is not old enough to remember that far back, well more than two days and I'm buggered On 29/01/14 07:41, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: For everyone's benefit, Australia has a no tipping mentality, or used to have one. 40 years ago if you tried to tip a Sydney cabbie he would bite your hand off. The meters ran in pennies, so it was always tempting to "round up". I remember being driven for what seemed like forever and the fare came to 28 OZ cents. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the sheets
Mighta even messed up the sheets with some em. Hendrik who is 40+ On 29/01/14 07:37, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Reminds me of that Aussie classic, "Now you'll Think I'm Awful". Not to mention my all time favorite series - "Barry McKenzie" I spent 3.5 yrs. in Fiji 40 + years ago and unavoidably came into contact with a bunch of Aussies and Tassies. Since it's a relatively small country, you might know some of them. On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 9:59 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: Depends on how much we managed to mess up the sheets. Hendrik who did do some tipping, reluctantly ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Last 10 elections I've voted in I wished most strongly for a choice at the ballot that said "NONE OF THE ABOVE" .. if "none of the above" got the most votes, they could never run for or hold public office again in their lifetimes.. Wouldn't that be good? On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Mountain Man wrote: > Grant wrote: > > Individual choice, or states choice, who owns the individual, that > > individuals life and work effort? It is a question debated in each > > generation, isn't it? Why? > > Why? - because we all want more, not less. > Shall we start the less-for-me political party? > Does anyone want to join? > Yeah, I didn't think so. That is why we have the dialog each > generation. And then you get some wise-acre that says - ask not what > your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. > That disrupts the concepts of more that drives retail junque and then > someone ended his life. The lessfor-me has nobody to tap for > following. No money for advertising. All sounds good. Now we need > to have write-in campaign established and every election can vote for > the less-for-me local candidate. That might hurt every politico out > there. > mao - dreaming... of course... > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Clay, I think you have "Nailed it' ... hahahahahahahahah.. Thanks,, best and most stress relief I've had in political discussion in months.. It would completely cure the re-election problem wouldn't it.. elegant and simple... just hammer the bastards to death... how satisfying, considering the current popularity enjoyed by congress, that just might come to pass.. Let them eat cake... On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:03 PM, clay wrote: > Another way to stabilize the excesses of government would be to make > running for office a terminal proposition. If you run for office and win, > then you will have two terms in which to play that game. At the end of > your short career, you are given a low key send off. A bottle of your > favored booze, a rub and tug, and then your constituents are given hammers > and you are retired. > > Bureaucrats can get the same sort of treatment. If you go looking for > the job, you will be paid a reasonable salary. If you rise through the > ranks into management and have a higher position, we get to use smaller > hammers. This allows you a longer moment to reflect upon your glorious > service. > > Those poor souls who are thrust into the positions of leadership against > their wills will be able to leave after the crisis is past. The sooner you > get the task done, the less likely you will be given a hero's send off. > > > On Jan 28, 2014, at 4:33 AM, Larry T wrote: > > > Yeah, I think you're right - 99.9% of the politicians are the same - > they are in it for themselves IMO. I believe T Cruz and M Lee are the > exceptions but these guys (meaning politicians in general) change their > stripes at the drop of a hat (or dollar bill) - but I think the media is > much to blame - after all, who would put themselves through the spotlight > of running a big campaign - where only one will get their moneys worth for > spending millions on a campaign. The others are left to pay their bills > somehow and find another job. Those potential money problems added to the > media going through your garbage looking for something bad they can scream > from the headlines. And it doesn't have to be true - a front page headline > today or a back page retraction needing a magnifying glass to read. Which > one will be remembered? > > > > We all have things in our past we'd prefer not to see on tomorrows 6 > O'Clock News. Sadly, a lot of politicians have criminal pasts and STILL > get elected/re-elected.Shows low expectations in our politicians it > seems... > > > > Sincerely, > > Larry > > > > On 1/27/2014 9:00 PM, Mountain Man wrote: > >> Larry wrote: > >>> The republicans are not falling for it at this time - but we don't > know what > >>> they're doing behind the scenes. > >> I will hi-jack your comments to state politics - IL. > >> It turns out that the one republican out of 4 in the primary that > >> interests me, come to find out, is probably a D in R clothes. He > >> touts he is not career politician which sounds good, but gives > >> millions in investments to D mayor of the city - yes, ChiTown - mayor > >> was former chief of staff for the prez. Go figure. Dem in Rep > >> clothes, or career politician. How is there a choice today in > >> politics? Why vote? There is zero choice - it is all crooks. Vote > >> is complete fraud. > >> mao > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth
Another way to stabilize the excesses of government would be to make running for office a terminal proposition. If you run for office and win, then you will have two terms in which to play that game. At the end of your short career, you are given a low key send off. A bottle of your favored booze, a rub and tug, and then your constituents are given hammers and you are retired. Bureaucrats can get the same sort of treatment. If you go looking for the job, you will be paid a reasonable salary. If you rise through the ranks into management and have a higher position, we get to use smaller hammers. This allows you a longer moment to reflect upon your glorious service. Those poor souls who are thrust into the positions of leadership against their wills will be able to leave after the crisis is past. The sooner you get the task done, the less likely you will be given a hero's send off. On Jan 28, 2014, at 4:33 AM, Larry T wrote: > Yeah, I think you're right - 99.9% of the politicians are the same - they are > in it for themselves IMO. I believe T Cruz and M Lee are the exceptions but > these guys (meaning politicians in general) change their stripes at the drop > of a hat (or dollar bill) - but I think the media is much to blame - after > all, who would put themselves through the spotlight of running a big campaign > - where only one will get their moneys worth for spending millions on a > campaign. The others are left to pay their bills somehow and find another > job. Those potential money problems added to the media going through your > garbage looking for something bad they can scream from the headlines. And it > doesn't have to be true - a front page headline today or a back page > retraction needing a magnifying glass to read. Which one will be remembered? > > We all have things in our past we'd prefer not to see on tomorrows 6 O'Clock > News. Sadly, a lot of politicians have criminal pasts and STILL get > elected/re-elected.Shows low expectations in our politicians it seems... > > Sincerely, > Larry > > On 1/27/2014 9:00 PM, Mountain Man wrote: >> Larry wrote: >>> The republicans are not falling for it at this time - but we don't know what >>> they're doing behind the scenes. >> I will hi-jack your comments to state politics - IL. >> It turns out that the one republican out of 4 in the primary that >> interests me, come to find out, is probably a D in R clothes. He >> touts he is not career politician which sounds good, but gives >> millions in investments to D mayor of the city - yes, ChiTown - mayor >> was former chief of staff for the prez. Go figure. Dem in Rep >> clothes, or career politician. How is there a choice today in >> politics? Why vote? There is zero choice - it is all crooks. Vote >> is complete fraud. >> mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Andrew wrote: > Who among you tips hotel room maids by leaving a fiver on the pillow as you > check out? I don't do hotels. They are disgusting. This is based on reports from a person I know that works at a reputable hotel. Hotels are the best place to acquire disgusting things. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Grant wrote: > Individual choice, or states choice, who owns the individual, that > individuals life and work effort? It is a question debated in each > generation, isn't it? Why? Why? - because we all want more, not less. Shall we start the less-for-me political party? Does anyone want to join? Yeah, I didn't think so. That is why we have the dialog each generation. And then you get some wise-acre that says - ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. That disrupts the concepts of more that drives retail junque and then someone ended his life. The lessfor-me has nobody to tap for following. No money for advertising. All sounds good. Now we need to have write-in campaign established and every election can vote for the less-for-me local candidate. That might hurt every politico out there. mao - dreaming... of course... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people
For everyone's benefit, Australia has a no tipping mentality, or used to have one. 40 years ago if you tried to tip a Sydney cabbie he would bite your hand off. The meters ran in pennies, so it was always tempting to "round up". I remember being driven for what seemed like forever and the fare came to 28 OZ cents. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:47 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > You cheap bastard! ;) > > I do $2 a day. Its amazing how much nicer the room gets when you leave the > money. In Argentina I left American money and delightful Argentine > chocolates appeared on my pillow. > > -Curt > > Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 23:34:22 -0500 > From: Andrew Strasfogel > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the > people > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Who among you tips hotel room maids by leaving a fiver on the pillow as you > check out? > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and politicians
Or perhaps: undereducated, opinionated rednecks, clinging o their guns and religion.. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:07 AM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > beyond the pale >> The phrase "beyond the pale" dates back to the 14th century, when the >> part of Ireland that was under English rule was delineated by a boundary >> made of such stakes or fences, and known as the English Pale. To travel >> outside of that boundary, beyond the pale, was to leave behind all the >> rules and institutions of English society, which the English modestly >> considered synonymous with civilization itself. >> > > In the US of A now, it means "beyond the beltway" or thinking as a > Merkun, not as a washington insider. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the tips
Reminds me of that Aussie classic, "Now you'll Think I'm Awful". Not to mention my all time favorite series - "Barry McKenzie" I spent 3.5 yrs. in Fiji 40 + years ago and unavoidably came into contact with a bunch of Aussies and Tassies. Since it's a relatively small country, you might know some of them. On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 9:59 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: > Depends on how much we managed to mess up the sheets. > > Hendrik > who did do some tipping, reluctantly > > On 28/01/14 15:04, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > >> Who among you tips hotel room maids by leaving a fiver on the pillow as >> you >> check out? >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens
<'ll add another line in the suggested chapter since we don't like war and bloodshed. How about no health care for people older than 65. The challenge is to live to age 65 in such a way that you have no health issues. Lose the boomers, more jobs for the unemployed youth that have education debt, etc. Yeah, 65 is old enough, I'll be there in a few years. The time has been good and we eat well, no health issues. mao > snip Why draw the line at 65? Why not 35? At age 35, women are into their waning years for reproduction, men and women both, will have had 10 yrs of peak production in industry.. keep fresh stock in the social mill. If you are going to have a total nanny state, what restrictions should lowly citizens have on government, after all.. since only government knows what is best for society.. right? Compulsory state service? Why stop at only 2 years. If it is "good for society" why not require lifetime service? Individual choice, or states choice, who owns the individual, that individuals life and work effort? It is a question debated in each generation, isn't it? Why? Grant... On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: > Latest polling suggests you are losing the grey vote > > Hendrik > who still has a fair way to to until 65 > > On 28/01/14 13:26, Mountain Man wrote: > >> H&F wrote: >> >>> Hmmnh, sounds familiar. >>> Obviously you'll need wars for all these heroes to shed blood in, perhaps >>> set them on the non citizens? >>> Perhaps for now we'll just put this proposal in the maybe pile. >>> >>> That was what I was thinking also. More war? Where? Why? Do any of >> these blood shedding warriors return home or do they all die? - who >> wants some warrior-spirit guy in the office teaching kids? A good >> percentage are maimed for life from what I am hearing. >> >> I'll add another line in the suggested chapter since we don't like war >> and bloodshed. >> How about no health care for people older than 65. The challenge is >> to live to age 65 in such a way that you have no health issues. Lose >> the boomers, more jobs for the unemployed youth that have education >> debt, etc. Yeah, 65 is old enough, I'll be there in a few years. The >> time has been good and we eat well, no health issues. >> mao >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth
That's an interesting picture you paint! you mentioned the horse at 10mph - that would have seemed like you were going incredibly fast at the time! People never saw much higher speed than 10mph unless falling from a cliff until the mechanical engines were created (a little before your 100 yr time frame). back in 2014 (the year my Dad was born) the Wright Bros with their crazy ideas had been in the air for several years, motor vehicles were beginning to populate the muddy, rutted roads of America. The Ford Model T started production in 1908 BTW. The good ol days ;-^ Sincerely, Larry On 1/27/2014 6:31 PM, clay wrote: But then we live in a very different world, Dan. Responsibility for ones actions would have to return. Accepting fewer circus acts and free bread. Then again, we would have no need for all the toys and distractions. We would have healthy and hearty meals, no need to pay for gym memberships, no time for mass entertainment. Artists would have local audiences, and might make a living wage, instead of plunking out fake tunes on a computer. I was driving to the body shop this morning in the S430, and it dawned on me, radio blasting, that I was going 25mph and what would it have been like a century ago to be on the same street. Horse powered, no radio, maybe all of 10mph at a trot. I would have to sing to myself. Might trust the horse to plod along while reading a book. Unless it were raining. I would need to be bundled up instead of allowing the heat and seat warmer to coddle me. And what of the other traffic? Maybe a garbage cart, no school buses, or distracted mothers in SUV toting kidlets to school. Ice carts, milk cart, tinker, firewood hauler, a carriage or two. Street packed with employed people doing jobs. Fresh food, since it would be hard to put up enough that you could avoid going to the market every few days. It would take a few hours to make a meal for the family instead of tossing some mystery ration into the nuker. clay On Jan 27, 2014, at 3:11 PM, Mountain Man wrote: clay wrote: If we should slow down how productive industry is, we might be able to find more productive employment opportunities. Ahh... For the days of low productivity and many persons doing what one person and machines do today. Totally agree. Decreased productivity means more jobs. Forget about minimum wage - if we open our hearts and give rather than believe the lie that *taking is admirable* we might recover the country that made us great. Think about the low productivity in building 10 airplanes each day during the war 70 years ago. Nobody complained about wage - they/we did our job and were happy to put a hand to the task. Today we would be hard pressed to put a hand to a war machine like in 1940+ but I would guess if we were inventive we might find efforts for more of us to work rather than administer, and give rather take. Real work was accomplished when productivity was much less. Nice catch Clay!! mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people
You cheap bastard! ;) I do $2 a day. Its amazing how much nicer the room gets when you leave the money. In Argentina I left American money and delightful Argentine chocolates appeared on my pillow. -Curt Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 23:34:22 -0500 From: Andrew Strasfogel To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Who among you tips hotel room maids by leaving a fiver on the pillow as you check out? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth
What type of dangerous legislation would you expect these days from Congress? It seems that their incapacity might be a good thing, based on Grant's quote from Will Rogers - "The most dangerous place in America is Congress in session" Really - what type of legislation do we need? I posit we need legislation to remove legislation, i.e. remove 5 laws for every new law contemplated. That would be a real challenge. mao HEAR! HEAR! nothing could be more true! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people
So a funny anecdote about rich idiots. Last year Bill corralled a bunch of his rich buds and had them down here at Kiawah for a coupla days to talk about this philanthropy giveawayyourmoney thing. We have a little airport here, it was wall-to-wall with jets. This old black guy who lives up the road runs a halfass limo company, has a coupla cars. He got tapped to give these guys rides to and from the airport, somehow. So he picks up Warren Buffet to take him to the airport, maybe a 20min drive. They get there, WB thanks him, and instead of flipping him a 20 for the ride as a tip, he gives him a boomerang. A f'n boomerang. I guess he got it at the conference or something and had no use for it so he gave it to the driver as a "tip." The old guy was cussing WB something fierce and telling that story all over the island, what a cheapass he was. Trickle down boomerangs! --R WB is not ashamed to tell what he things we should do. But the same as Goobermnt officious ones Holeywood rich, wallst crowd and the like, it is hypocrisy. Do as I say, not as I do. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeah, I think you're right - 99.9% of the politicians are the same - they are in it for themselves IMO. I believe T Cruz and M Lee are the exceptions but these guys (meaning politicians in general) change their stripes at the drop of a hat (or dollar bill) - but I think the media is much to blame - after all, who would put themselves through the spotlight of running a big campaign - where only one will get their moneys worth for spending millions on a campaign. The others are left to pay their bills somehow and find another job. Those potential money problems added to the media going through your garbage looking for something bad they can scream from the headlines. And it doesn't have to be true - a front page headline today or a back page retraction needing a magnifying glass to read. Which one will be remembered? We all have things in our past we'd prefer not to see on tomorrows 6 O'Clock News. Sadly, a lot of politicians have criminal pasts and STILL get elected/re-elected.Shows low expectations in our politicians it seems... Sincerely, Larry On 1/27/2014 9:00 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Larry wrote: The republicans are not falling for it at this time - but we don't know what they're doing behind the scenes. I will hi-jack your comments to state politics - IL. It turns out that the one republican out of 4 in the primary that interests me, come to find out, is probably a D in R clothes. He touts he is not career politician which sounds good, but gives millions in investments to D mayor of the city - yes, ChiTown - mayor was former chief of staff for the prez. Go figure. Dem in Rep clothes, or career politician. How is there a choice today in politics? Why vote? There is zero choice - it is all crooks. Vote is complete fraud. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth
Osamacare is paying homage to Fat Teddy Kennedy. Kennedy coined the term "Osama" to refer to O'Bummer So, Yes, Osamacare is just another name for O'Bummercare, O'Bunglercare or what have you. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people
Interesting you mention Bill Gates. He has put a lot of his fortune into his philanthropic foundation (and I think plans for all of it to go there when he dies). He also promotes other rich folks doing something similar, either to his foundation or to their own to do "good" things. The interesting aspect of that to me is that a lot of people (including many of the rich fools) rant about raising taxes on the rich, but then instead of giving their fortunes to the gummint to work wonders decide they can do better than the gummint. And those who think their taxes should be higher think it is great they are putting their money into foundations and bypassing the gummint. Something of a disconnect, no? --R Hypocrisy at its finest ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and politicians
beyond the pale The phrase "beyond the pale" dates back to the 14th century, when the part of Ireland that was under English rule was delineated by a boundary made of such stakes or fences, and known as the English Pale. To travel outside of that boundary, beyond the pale, was to leave behind all the rules and institutions of English society, which the English modestly considered synonymous with civilization itself. In the US of A now, it means "beyond the beltway" or thinking as a Merkun, not as a washington insider. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth
Randy sez: I am not an economist and cannot explain how it all works, but I cannot help but wonder how much good it does to raise the minimum wage. We raise the wage and since employee costs are usually one of the biggest items on the books, the prices have to be increased. Then the employee making more money gets taxed more. The folks who buy the stuff at the store where the prices went up need more to pay their costs so they raise the prices on whatever they sell etc. By the time we are done, the folks who got the raise may not be any better off. Ah! But the whole point of it is: raising min wage bumps all prices higher, meaning tax receipts go up, thereby the goobermnt goobers have more money taken at gunpoint to spend. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth
When legislators vote without even reading legislation which runs thousands of pages and is rewritten the night before, I suspect there are many unintended consequences. Unintended by the legislators, perhaps. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Consequences? They are everywhere: unemployment, jobs exported, inflation, national debt, balance of payments, a generation that doesn't know how to work, etc. This is truly a forest for the trees situation. > -Original Message- > From: Curt Raymond > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 12:33 PM > ... > I find it interesting that every time the topic of raising the minimum > wage comes up the nay-sayers always tout the rise as the end of the world. > Companies will go out of business, your kids will never get a summer job > etc. None of that ever seems to come through though. > > -Curt > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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When legislators vote without even reading legislation which runs thousands of pages and is rewritten the night before, I suspect there are many unintended consequences. > -Original Message- > From: Rick Knoble > Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 8:42 PM > ... > IMHO, there_is_no_such_thing as unintended consequences in law making. > ... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the tips
Depends on how much we managed to mess up the sheets. Hendrik who did do some tipping, reluctantly On 28/01/14 15:04, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Who among you tips hotel room maids by leaving a fiver on the pillow as you check out? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeah when we where in tipping land, we stopped in some Italian restaurant for Sunday lunch and the waitress did mention that the churchies are somewhat frugal, spose they put all their spare change in the plate at the prayer centre. We tipped her a bommerang and a half. Hendrik who hates tipping On 28/01/14 12:42, Rich Thomas wrote: No it's the Sunday after-church crowd. 20 people, separate checks, count to the penny, stiff the waitron. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Jan 27, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: My waitstaff friends tell me Doctors and Lawyers and other folks with money tend to be the worst tippers. I've never worked for tips so I really don't know. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the old citizens
Latest polling suggests you are losing the grey vote Hendrik who still has a fair way to to until 65 On 28/01/14 13:26, Mountain Man wrote: H&F wrote: Hmmnh, sounds familiar. Obviously you'll need wars for all these heroes to shed blood in, perhaps set them on the non citizens? Perhaps for now we'll just put this proposal in the maybe pile. That was what I was thinking also. More war? Where? Why? Do any of these blood shedding warriors return home or do they all die? - who wants some warrior-spirit guy in the office teaching kids? A good percentage are maimed for life from what I am hearing. I'll add another line in the suggested chapter since we don't like war and bloodshed. How about no health care for people older than 65. The challenge is to live to age 65 in such a way that you have no health issues. Lose the boomers, more jobs for the unemployed youth that have education debt, etc. Yeah, 65 is old enough, I'll be there in a few years. The time has been good and we eat well, no health issues. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My old mum was in service as a young woman, so I have been trained to appreciate and reward the hard work of all, high and low. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. > > From: Andrew Strasfogel >To: Mercedes Discussion List >Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 11:34 PM >Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people > > >Who among you tips hotel room maids by leaving a fiver on the pillow as you >check out? > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Said by whom - Karl Rove? On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Larry T wrote: > one more thing about giving and receiving and using other peoples money -- > it has been said a republican sees an injustice - he pulls out his wallet, > organizes a fund raiser or opens his home to less fortunate while a > democrat will see an injustice and work tirelessly to get a law passed so > everyone 'gives". > > > Sincerely, > Larry > > On 1/26/2014 9:05 PM, G Mann wrote: > >> All good efforts in finding quotations from Bible, my thanks and respect >> for those who went the extra mile. >> >> Regards the quote above of "Tis more blessed to give than receive" . It is >> indeed, when that giving is done with good intent and given freely from >> product of your own labors. The rub comes when that "giving" is done by >> others, with the treasure or goods taken from others by force, deception, >> or theft... and when that "giving' is done for the express purpose of >> gaining power over the less fortunate, or electing yourself to office, or >> some other material gain which you benefit from the original theft. >> >> In my Theology classes.. that would have a "compound sin"... But, it would >> buy you an "E ticket" ride to hell.. ;)) [or prison] >> >> Grant... >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Mountain Man >> wrote: >> >> Craig wrote: >>> Another appropriate text is Ephesians 4:28: Let the thief no longer steal, but rather let him labor, doing honest work with his own hands, so that he may have something to share with anyone in need. >>> More follow up: >>> >>> "I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to >>> support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he >>> said, It is more blessed to give than to receive." >>> >>> Neither of these leaves room for greed or amassing of wealth, perhaps? >>> And perhaps this is what is critical against the accumulation of >>> wealth - giving rather than receiving. Perhaps we should rather give >>> as we receive so that we do not amass a fortune that needs to be >>> dispersed. i.e. WarrenB gives more than he receives and starts a >>> revolution rather than establishing socialism. >>> mao >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people
Who among you tips hotel room maids by leaving a fiver on the pillow as you check out? On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Frederick Moir wrote: > Starship Troopers? > > Fred Moir > Lynn MA > Diesel preferred. > > > > > > From: clay > >To: Mercedes Discussion List > >Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 6:43 PM > >Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the > people > > > > > >I too feel that those who serve are being sold down the river. > > > >I postulate that we would have far better governance if you were only > able to gain citizenship by performing duty for your country. Be it a four > or six year term, you carry arms and shed blood if needed, then earn your > stripes. Only those who have honorably served would be eligible to run for > any office. To be able to hold any civic position, you would have had to > been willing to give your life. So, cops, fire fighters, dog catchers, are > all tested and true citizens. > > > >As part of your gaining citizen status, you would be entitled to access > to support and outreach, such that you never needed to hold a cardboard > sign begging for money on a street corner. Once a Marine, Always a Marine, > and we would never leave a man behind. The time most kids waste after high > school is a great time to allow them to serve, as they are immature and of > little economic value today. Having given six years, they would be near > 25, much more suited for higher education and responsible for their own > futures. > > > >This would also allow those who decide not to serve, to not game the > system. No need to pay them to remain alive, as the semi-citizen would > have the vote, but could not access the reins of power, nor feel entitled > to some benefit that was not earned > > > >clay > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Alles. Where I used to work we re-flowed solder with hot peanut oil. Crispy critters anyone? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. > > From: Mountain Man >To: Mercedes Discussion List >Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 9:58 PM >Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth > > >OK Don wrote: >> Peanut? > >Much too nice of an oil, and probably too highly subsidized by Dept of >Ag. Which oil is the least subsidized? >mao > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 99% of the non citizens
Well I guess we'll have to see and wait what will happen in Germany in the future, they have just abolished conscription/national service. I am not a fan of forcibly taking years away from a person because some others can't get their stuff together, this is called a collective punishment. I would think the vast majority of young ones do the right thing and me thinks no amount of time in the army is going to set the real bad ones right. However I think giving young criminals a choice of serving in the forces or jail, might be a good thing, as they already have some of their life taken away. Hendrik who did not serve On 28/01/14 13:54, clay wrote: Henny, no need for war. Just the opportunity to march around in fancy pants and shoot metal cut outs of unfriendly forces. Swiss are keen on getting everybody to be ready to kill on need. Very conservative bunch, but they make spaces for folks to shoot heroin and hookers to make a bit of cash in a safe environment. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Starship Troopers? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. > > From: clay >To: Mercedes Discussion List >Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 6:43 PM >Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people > > >I too feel that those who serve are being sold down the river. > >I postulate that we would have far better governance if you were only able to >gain citizenship by performing duty for your country. Be it a four or six >year term, you carry arms and shed blood if needed, then earn your stripes. >Only those who have honorably served would be eligible to run for any office. >To be able to hold any civic position, you would have had to been willing to >give your life. So, cops, fire fighters, dog catchers, are all tested and >true citizens. > >As part of your gaining citizen status, you would be entitled to access to >support and outreach, such that you never needed to hold a cardboard sign >begging for money on a street corner. Once a Marine, Always a Marine, and we >would never leave a man behind. The time most kids waste after high school is >a great time to allow them to serve, as they are immature and of little >economic value today. Having given six years, they would be near 25, much >more suited for higher education and responsible for their own futures. > >This would also allow those who decide not to serve, to not game the system. >No need to pay them to remain alive, as the semi-citizen would have the vote, >but could not access the reins of power, nor feel entitled to some benefit >that was not earned > >clay > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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But, DAN, that would obviate the need for ACA! We have to have old people who demand heroic measures and procedures that would bankrupt a small town so we can develop more and better, bigger hospitals. If the old and infirm are not around, why should the youth purchase ACA policies? Local pediatric hospital had a most embarrassing situation. They had incomplete sanitation and sterilization of equipment which put over 100 younglings at threat for chronic, debilitating disease. Hepatitis, AIDS, a multitude of infectious pathogens, because the colonoscopes had poop on them. Over four years! And I am trying to grasp why a pipsqueak kid needs cameras up the shoot. That is old folks problem clay On Jan 27, 2014, at 6:56 PM, Mountain Man wrote: > H&F wrote: >> Hmmnh, sounds familiar. >> Obviously you'll need wars for all these heroes to shed blood in, perhaps >> set them on the non citizens? >> Perhaps for now we'll just put this proposal in the maybe pile. >> > > That was what I was thinking also. More war? Where? Why? Do any of > these blood shedding warriors return home or do they all die? - who > wants some warrior-spirit guy in the office teaching kids? A good > percentage are maimed for life from what I am hearing. > > I'll add another line in the suggested chapter since we don't like war > and bloodshed. > How about no health care for people older than 65. The challenge is > to live to age 65 in such a way that you have no health issues. Lose > the boomers, more jobs for the unemployed youth that have education > debt, etc. Yeah, 65 is old enough, I'll be there in a few years. The > time has been good and we eat well, no health issues. > mao > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Can't do that, somebody might be allergic. Avocado oil is probably safe clay On Jan 27, 2014, at 6:35 PM, OK Don wrote: > Peanut? > > > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Rich Thomas < > richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > >> What kind of oil should we boil them in? >> >> > > -- > OK Don > "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775 > "in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes." > - Benjamin Franklin 1789 > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Henny, no need for war. Just the opportunity to march around in fancy pants and shoot metal cut outs of unfriendly forces. Swiss are keen on getting everybody to be ready to kill on need. Very conservative bunch, but they make spaces for folks to shoot heroin and hookers to make a bit of cash in a safe environment. clay On Jan 27, 2014, at 6:23 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: > Hmmnh, sounds familiar. > Obviously you'll need wars for all these heroes to shed blood in, perhaps set > them on the non citizens? > Perhaps for now we'll just put this proposal in the maybe pile. > > Hendrik > who is slowly backing away, so as not to alarm anyone > > On 28/01/14 10:13, clay wrote: >> I too feel that those who serve are being sold down the river. >> >> I postulate that we would have far better governance if you were only able >> to gain citizenship by performing duty for your country. Be it a four or >> six year term, you carry arms and shed blood if needed, then earn your >> stripes. Only those who have honorably served would be eligible to run for >> any office. To be able to hold any civic position, you would have had to >> been willing to give your life. So, cops, fire fighters, dog catchers, are >> all tested and true citizens. >> >> As part of your gaining citizen status, you would be entitled to access to >> support and outreach, such that you never needed to hold a cardboard sign >> begging for money on a street corner. Once a Marine, Always a Marine, and >> we would never leave a man behind. The time most kids waste after high >> school is a great time to allow them to serve, as they are immature and of >> little economic value today. Having given six years, they would be near 25, >> much more suited for higher education and responsible for their own futures. >> >> This would also allow those who decide not to serve, to not game the system. >> No need to pay them to remain alive, as the semi-citizen would have the >> vote, but could not access the reins of power, nor feel entitled to some >> benefit that was not earned >> >> clay > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 17:59:46 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond wrote: > Imagine a clear beach ball with Santa (or whomever) inside, lit up with > "snow" blowing around. They have a fan which keeps them inflated and > moving the "snow" all the time... Oh, THOSE things! > Horrible things Indeed! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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OK Don wrote: > Peanut? Much too nice of an oil, and probably too highly subsidized by Dept of Ag. Which oil is the least subsidized? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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H&F wrote: > Hmmnh, sounds familiar. > Obviously you'll need wars for all these heroes to shed blood in, perhaps > set them on the non citizens? > Perhaps for now we'll just put this proposal in the maybe pile. > That was what I was thinking also. More war? Where? Why? Do any of these blood shedding warriors return home or do they all die? - who wants some warrior-spirit guy in the office teaching kids? A good percentage are maimed for life from what I am hearing. I'll add another line in the suggested chapter since we don't like war and bloodshed. How about no health care for people older than 65. The challenge is to live to age 65 in such a way that you have no health issues. Lose the boomers, more jobs for the unemployed youth that have education debt, etc. Yeah, 65 is old enough, I'll be there in a few years. The time has been good and we eat well, no health issues. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Having seen some true master wood smiths in action, I grieve his loss of employment. Yet another example of "trickle up poverty" induced by social engineering and political greed. Seems there have been several million deaths in wars through history over just such ignorance in leadership. Sad... truly sad On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 2:33 PM, clay wrote: > +1 > > BiL was employed at a local mega yacht builder until the tax the rich > thing hit. Hiring stopped at the company and work transitioned to > retrofits until there was just a skeleton crew left. His degree in the > shipwrights program came in handy enough that he was able to find > employment in a cabinet shop for a few years. Then the massive deflation > in the housing market took out the need for quality cabinetry. He has been > struggling for work, going from shop to shop for the past four years. > > clay > > > On Jan 27, 2014, at 8:35 AM, Larry T wrote: > > > Good point Rich - > > Back in the 90s the liberals managed to pass a "Tax the rich' bill - > following that, many boatyards closed and laid off workers - may extreme > craftsmen who had to find other work. Often that talent is lost forever. > The rich buy new boats - like G-650s - and all the people in the income > stream benefit from them buying stuff. I bought a used Catalina 27 back > in the late 90s and the only one who benefited was the salesman... it's > just not the same, but the rich must buy the new stuff so the used stuff > will be around. > > > > It's the same will all kinds of new things we take for granted. Remember > when 40" TVs came out and sold for $3000-$5000? Only the rich would buy > them but by doing so they drove the price down to the point us normal > people can afford them. > > > > Trickle Down really works but the liberals try to criticize it because > it doesn't fit their agenda. > > > > Sincerely, > > Larry > > > > On 1/26/2014 9:45 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: > >> I had dinner with my cousin last night. Her husband works for > Gulfstream in Savannah. They build G-650s there, which start at $65mil. > If one were to order one today it would take at least 3 years to get it. > He says there are people who pull out their checkbook to try to buy out > someone further up the queue. These are likely rich folks or corporations. > >> > >> So Gulfstream have 5 or 6 factories around the country, all working > flat out to build various aircraft. That $65mil and whatever the others > cost employs thousands of people, supports various other industries, keeps > the economies of their home communities going, and must add at least that > value to their buyers in some ways. Oh, and to run one costs a fair amount > of the purchase price each year, requires many pilots, hangars, fuel, > maintenance etc etc which also keeps the economy going. And apparently did > quite well even over the past few years. > >> > >> So, seems to me like rich folks and corporations have positive effects > as well, whatever vilification the various politicos want to heap on them. > Hell, I'd like to buy a G-650 and trod down all y'all. > >> > >> --R (sent from my miniPad) > >> > >> On Jan 26, 2014, at 6:27 PM, "Scott Ritchey" > wrote: > >> > >> > >> Here's a thought: Has the billionaire's wealth impoverished us (normal > >> folks) in any way? It's a mixed bag. Certainly the banking clowns that > >> walked away with the real estate bubble money plus the bailout money > made us > >> all poorer. But other billionaires like Steve Jobs and Bill Gates, Sam > >> Walton, and MANY others have made most of us richer, or at least > enriched > >> our lives. It doesn't have to be a zero-sum game. The invisible hand > does > >> as good a job sorting this out as much as the government (picking > winners > >> and losers) does a bad job. Besides, look at how these very rich use > their > >> wealth. Certainly some are frivolous but there are also the Carnegies, > >> Dukes, etc. who feel a high calling to use their enormous wealth for the > >> common good. > >> > >> Sure, there are a few very rich people in the world, but why is that a > >> problem? > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To s
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clay wrote: > Most of the white shirts are so far removed from having held a decent job, > they feel entitled and above the rabble. > Yep. The guy across the street is closing and sold to another guy down the street. My son works across the street and interviewed with the new owner - auto repair. The guy knows nothing about repair but runs a shop - go figure. He has the same attitude - his poop don't stink. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Peanut? On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > What kind of oil should we boil them in? > > -- OK Don "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775 "in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes." - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What kind of oil should we boil them in? --R (sent from my miniPad) > On Jan 26, 2014, at 10:18 PM, OK Don wrote: > > This thread is coming close to rivaling an oil thread . . . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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H&F wrote: > There are a lot more factors that go into it but the basis is that if the > wealth is more spread out, then there is more chance of those who can do > something, will do something to give others a leg up, instead of a hand out. > > Hendrik > who sponsors a child in Vietnam Good stuff - I like!! mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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H&F wrote: > For instance are we seeing the Waltons building factories in the US to > produce goods to sell at wallymart? Be careful what we wish for. NYT had an article recently telling about China building textile factories in SC since china wages are out of line with their plans. MinWage? - try $3.43/hour? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hmmnh, sounds familiar. Obviously you'll need wars for all these heroes to shed blood in, perhaps set them on the non citizens? Perhaps for now we'll just put this proposal in the maybe pile. Hendrik who is slowly backing away, so as not to alarm anyone On 28/01/14 10:13, clay wrote: I too feel that those who serve are being sold down the river. I postulate that we would have far better governance if you were only able to gain citizenship by performing duty for your country. Be it a four or six year term, you carry arms and shed blood if needed, then earn your stripes. Only those who have honorably served would be eligible to run for any office. To be able to hold any civic position, you would have had to been willing to give your life. So, cops, fire fighters, dog catchers, are all tested and true citizens. As part of your gaining citizen status, you would be entitled to access to support and outreach, such that you never needed to hold a cardboard sign begging for money on a street corner. Once a Marine, Always a Marine, and we would never leave a man behind. The time most kids waste after high school is a great time to allow them to serve, as they are immature and of little economic value today. Having given six years, they would be near 25, much more suited for higher education and responsible for their own futures. This would also allow those who decide not to serve, to not game the system. No need to pay them to remain alive, as the semi-citizen would have the vote, but could not access the reins of power, nor feel entitled to some benefit that was not earned clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No it's the Sunday after-church crowd. 20 people, separate checks, count to the penny, stiff the waitron. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Jan 27, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: My waitstaff friends tell me Doctors and Lawyers and other folks with money tend to be the worst tippers. I've never worked for tips so I really don't know. -Curt Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 17:39:16 -0500 From: Rich Thomas To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people Message-ID: <52e6e014.90...@constructivity.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed So a funny anecdote about rich idiots. Last year Bill corralled a bunch of his rich buds and had them down here at Kiawah for a coupla days to talk about this philanthropy giveawayyourmoney thing. We have a little airport here, it was wall-to-wall with jets. This old black guy who lives up the road runs a halfass limo company, has a coupla cars. He got tapped to give these guys rides to and from the airport, somehow. So he picks up Warren Buffet to take him to the airport, maybe a 20min drive. They get there, WB thanks him, and instead of flipping him a 20 for the ride as a tip, he gives him a boomerang. A f'n boomerang. I guess he got it at the conference or something and had no use for it so he gave it to the driver as a "tip." The old guy was cussing WB something fierce and telling that story all over the island, what a cheapass he was. Trickle down boomerangs! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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clay wrote: > Artists would have local audiences, and might make a living wage, instead of > plunking out fake tunes on a computer. > Another thread hi-jack. Chicago band Dave Flippo world-jazz quintet was at the library yesterday. Awesome tight group. I know nothing about jazz, but this was an awesome performance in very small venue. These guys are renown, but in our local library sunday afternoon - totally inefficient and wonderful and - did I say enough? http://www.flippomusic.com/ mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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clay wrote: > AS for cars, it is all bowing down to our computer overlords. If you have > wind up windows, no radio, and bare minimum, you are not able to be tracked > or controlled. > Me!! I drive as little as possible - use bike in warmer weather. But the W123 euro 3-pedal car is just fine here. All manual everything. That is why I like the car. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Imagine a clear beach ball with Santa (or whomever) inside, lit up with "snow" blowing around. They have a fan which keeps them inflated and moving the "snow" all the time... Horrible things -Curt Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 18:08:35 -0700 From: Craig To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth Message-ID: <20140127180835.bef6dd90f0a59f70ba25b...@pisquared.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 16:48:33 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond wrote: > Dad tells a story of a couple at Wal-Mart looking at one of those big > inflatable snow globes like it was pure gold. I must confess being ignorant and uninformed: What is an inflatable snow globe? > Then trying to figure out how they were going to pay for it, going so > far as to debate which bills they could skip or put off... Oh my. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Larry wrote: > The republicans are not falling for it at this time - but we don't know what > they're doing behind the scenes. I will hi-jack your comments to state politics - IL. It turns out that the one republican out of 4 in the primary that interests me, come to find out, is probably a D in R clothes. He touts he is not career politician which sounds good, but gives millions in investments to D mayor of the city - yes, ChiTown - mayor was former chief of staff for the prez. Go figure. Dem in Rep clothes, or career politician. How is there a choice today in politics? Why vote? There is zero choice - it is all crooks. Vote is complete fraud. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeah but if the fella learned to use the bommerang, he could go out and hunt animals with it and not have to buy meat. WB could at least have signed the bommerang I suppose? Hendrik who does not know how to use a bommerrang On 28/01/14 09:09, Rich Thomas wrote: So a funny anecdote about rich idiots. Last year Bill corralled a bunch of his rich buds and had them down here at Kiawah for a coupla days to talk about this philanthropy giveawayyourmoney thing. We have a little airport here, it was wall-to-wall with jets. This old black guy who lives up the road runs a halfass limo company, has a coupla cars. He got tapped to give these guys rides to and from the airport, somehow. So he picks up Warren Buffet to take him to the airport, maybe a 20min drive. They get there, WB thanks him, and instead of flipping him a 20 for the ride as a tip, he gives him a boomerang. A f'n boomerang. I guess he got it at the conference or something and had no use for it so he gave it to the driver as a "tip." The old guy was cussing WB something fierce and telling that story all over the island, what a cheapass he was. Trickle down boomerangs! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have. I fully agree with giving those who will sacrifice all, the opportunity to live a full life. On Jan 27, 2014, at 4:50 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > You've read "Starship Troopers" of course. > > -Curt > > Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 15:43:15 -0800 > From: clay > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the > people > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I too feel that those who serve are being sold down the river. > > I postulate that we would have far better governance if you were only able to > gain citizenship by performing duty for your country. Be it a four or six > year term, you carry arms and shed blood if needed, then earn your stripes. > Only those who have honorably served would be eligible to run for any office. > To be able to hold any civic position, you would have had to been willing to > give your life. So, cops, fire fighters, dog catchers, are all tested and > true citizens. > > As part of your gaining citizen status, you would be entitled to access to > support and outreach, such that you never needed to hold a cardboard sign > begging for money on a street corner. Once a Marine, Always a Marine, and we > would never leave a man behind. The time most kids waste after high school > is a great time to allow them to serve, as they are immature and of little > economic value today. Having given six years, they would be near 25, much > more suited for higher education and responsible for their own futures. > > This would also allow those who decide not to serve, to not game the system. > No need to pay them to remain alive, as the semi-citizen would have the vote, > but could not access the reins of power, nor feel entitled to some benefit > that was not earned > > clay > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 16:48:33 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond wrote: > Dad tells a story of a couple at Wal-Mart looking at one of those big > inflatable snow globes like it was pure gold. I must confess being ignorant and uninformed: What is an inflatable snow globe? > Then trying to figure out how they were going to pay for it, going so > far as to debate which bills they could skip or put off... Oh my. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people
You've read "Starship Troopers" of course. -Curt Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 15:43:15 -0800 From: clay To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I too feel that those who serve are being sold down the river. I postulate that we would have far better governance if you were only able to gain citizenship by performing duty for your country. Be it a four or six year term, you carry arms and shed blood if needed, then earn your stripes. Only those who have honorably served would be eligible to run for any office. To be able to hold any civic position, you would have had to been willing to give your life. So, cops, fire fighters, dog catchers, are all tested and true citizens. As part of your gaining citizen status, you would be entitled to access to support and outreach, such that you never needed to hold a cardboard sign begging for money on a street corner. Once a Marine, Always a Marine, and we would never leave a man behind. The time most kids waste after high school is a great time to allow them to serve, as they are immature and of little economic value today. Having given six years, they would be near 25, much more suited for higher education and responsible for their own futures. This would also allow those who decide not to serve, to not game the system. No need to pay them to remain alive, as the semi-citizen would have the vote, but could not access the reins of power, nor feel entitled to some benefit that was not earned clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth
Dad tells a story of a couple at Wal-Mart looking at one of those big inflatable snow globes like it was pure gold. Then trying to figure out how they were going to pay for it, going so far as to debate which bills they could skip or put off... -Curt Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 17:29:15 -0600 From: Mountain Man To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Curt wrote: > None of that ever seems to come through though. Naysayers and proponents never arrive at an agreeable place, so... we have never seen this happen. I like your idea - large cultural shift away from junk purchases. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people
On Jan 27, 2014, at 11:36 AM, "M. Mitchell Marmel" wrote: > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Larry T wrote: > > >> but the rich must buy the new stuff so the used stuff will be around. >> > > Case in point: How often do any of US buy a NEW Mercedes? ;-) I am considering one made in this century. Does that count as "new"? :-) Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth
That's pretty reactionary. You haven't even mentioned Mother Jones and the Daily Worker. [:o) Gerry On 1/27/2014 1:52 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Some of it, but I believe *everything* in Huffington Post and Daily Kos. You know, where they present all the facts and data and stats and that kind of stuff to support their opining. --R On 1/27/14 1:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: You beleive everything you read in the WSJ? On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: There was an interesting analysis in the WSJ the other day about the minimum wage, and that it really has very little effect on much of anything other than political bloviation, and generally limiting jobs for people who make minimum wage. Of course, that can't be right because it doesn't fel right! --R On 1/27/14 12:32 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: You misunderstand me, I'm suggesting we pay the slaves a higher wage which will make prices increase, then people learn to do with less junk. This requires a huge cultural shift though. I find it interesting that every time the topic of raising the minimum wage comes up the nay-sayers always tout the rise as the end of the world. Companies will go out of business, your kids will never get a summer job etc. None of that ever seems to come through though. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and politicians
Cousin attended the U.S. War College after WW-2. The theory then was that Hitlers decisions to bomb Britain into submission instead of invading it probably lost the war for Germany when it had barely begun. Had Hitler occupied Britain, which would have been little more trouble than occupying Europe (which was done in a matter of days), dictator Franco of Spain would have joined him and "Nazi Europe" would have been in no danger of invasion. The U.S. would have signed an armistice with Germany, and Hitler would have been free to turn the full force of his military on Russia which would probably have been defeated. Germany and Japan together would have defeated Mao Tse Tung and China would have become a protectorate of Japan. Germany and Japan would have dominated the eastern hemisphere and the U.S. would have continued to dominate the western hemisphere. What would have happened after that was anyones guess, according to the generals. Gerry P.S. I'd like to be a little mouse and hear what the War College generals are predicting now. On 1/26/2014 9:46 AM, Larry T wrote: One of the many programs the military channel focused on Hitlers commands during WW2. They said there were a number of attempts to assassinate him but the Allies decided his directions of the military would help the Allies win more than removing him from the picture. They may be right as he made some dumb commands that probably cost them way to many lives. Often when his Army got in trouble and needed to retreat and regroup Hitler's standard command was to never retreat. Several of his armies might have survived to fight another day if he had allowed them to retreat. He was also indecisive and changed his mind often. Possibly, if one of his Generals/Admirals had taken over they may have made better tactical decisions. The guy running the U-Boat program (Carnais - misspelled?) was put in charge at the end and he was infinitely better at running military operations than Hitler. Hitler managed some spectacular victories early in the war but the wins were more about their opponents lack of preparation for a modern mechanical war & surprise than brilliant tactics. The Polish army was a match for the Germans but they tried to fight tanks while on horses. Also, the French had a larger army and more tanks but their tactics was lacking, often using their tanks in too small numbers. But I'm not so sure the masses of Germans would follow someone like they did Hitler... Sincerely, Larry On 1/25/2014 10:01 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: Well for one thing the US might not have made shiploads of cash from WW2. Or worse still, someone with some real brains and talent, instead of a self deluded nutjob might have risen to power in Germany and won the war. Hitlers insanity is arguably the key reason that Germany lost the war. Hendrik who is mildly suffering from nutjobosis On 23/01/14 21:37, Mitch Haley wrote: arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Some are of great value to the citizens in their realm such as was the plutocracy that controlled Venice, the richest city in Europe during the Middle Ages. It's citizens prospered due to the decisions of the wealthy families of Venice. And then, the fatal error. They decided Hitler's artwork wasn't worth buying. Imagine how different the world would be if that nutbag had been an impoverished artist instead of a starving artist. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth
Sent from my iPhone On Jan 27, 2014, at 10:55 AM, "G Mann" wrote: > One of my favorite quotes is of Mark Twain: "The most dangerous place in > America is Congress in session" or was it Will Rogers? Will Rogers. Whose home town was the same as our wonderful list mom, without whom these great discourses wouldn't happen. Claremore, OK. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people
My take on that, is that the people who have not held that type of position, have no understanding. Most of the people who I worked restaurant jobs with are not tight with a tip. A server does have to earn it, but the hard worker is rewarded. Most of the white shirts are so far removed from having held a decent job, they feel entitled and above the rabble. Most of the douche white shirts who I know do not tip, got a degree on loans, did not work until they had a higher degree, and spend cash on frivolities. They also are liberal, with other peoples cash. clay On Jan 27, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > My waitstaff friends tell me Doctors and Lawyers and other folks with money > tend to be the worst tippers. > I've never worked for tips so I really don't know. > > -Curt > > Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 17:39:16 -0500 > From: Rich Thomas > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the > people > Message-ID: <52e6e014.90...@constructivity.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > So a funny anecdote about rich idiots. Last year Bill corralled a bunch > of his rich buds and had them down here at Kiawah for a coupla days to > talk about this philanthropy giveawayyourmoney thing. We have a little > airport here, it was wall-to-wall with jets. This old black guy who > lives up the road runs a halfass limo company, has a coupla cars. He > got tapped to give these guys rides to and from the airport, somehow. > > So he picks up Warren Buffet to take him to the airport, maybe a 20min > drive. They get there, WB thanks him, and instead of flipping him a 20 > for the ride as a tip, he gives him a boomerang. A f'n boomerang. I > guess he got it at the conference or something and had no use for it so > he gave it to the driver as a "tip." The old guy was cussing WB > something fierce and telling that story all over the island, what a > cheapass he was. > > Trickle down boomerangs! > > --R > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people
or at least enriched >> our lives. It doesn't have to be a zero-sum game. The invisible hand does >> as good a job sorting this out as much as the government (picking winners >> and losers) does a bad job. Besides, look at how these very rich use their >> wealth. Certainly some are frivolous but there are also the Carnegies, >> Dukes, etc. who feel a high calling to use their enormous wealth for the >> common good. >> >> Sure, there are a few very rich people in the world, but why is that a >> problem? >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of >>> Mountain Man >>> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 10:37 PM >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the >>> people >>> >>> H & F wrote: >>>> I personally don't think concentration of wealth to that degree is. >>>> >>> ... Perhaps one of the differences is >>> that we see the person that is a trillionaire whereas years ago we >>> never knew who was the trillionaire in the neighborhood. Wealth is >>> more conspicuous today, that's all. >>> We need to quit bitchn' and count our blessings. We are wealthy. Not >>> trillionaire wealthy, but wealthy... >>> mao >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people
My waitstaff friends tell me Doctors and Lawyers and other folks with money tend to be the worst tippers. I've never worked for tips so I really don't know. -Curt Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 17:39:16 -0500 From: Rich Thomas To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and 90% of the people Message-ID: <52e6e014.90...@constructivity.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed So a funny anecdote about rich idiots. Last year Bill corralled a bunch of his rich buds and had them down here at Kiawah for a coupla days to talk about this philanthropy giveawayyourmoney thing. We have a little airport here, it was wall-to-wall with jets. This old black guy who lives up the road runs a halfass limo company, has a coupla cars. He got tapped to give these guys rides to and from the airport, somehow. So he picks up Warren Buffet to take him to the airport, maybe a 20min drive. They get there, WB thanks him, and instead of flipping him a 20 for the ride as a tip, he gives him a boomerang. A f'n boomerang. I guess he got it at the conference or something and had no use for it so he gave it to the driver as a "tip." The old guy was cussing WB something fierce and telling that story all over the island, what a cheapass he was. Trickle down boomerangs! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth
But then we live in a very different world, Dan. Responsibility for ones actions would have to return. Accepting fewer circus acts and free bread. Then again, we would have no need for all the toys and distractions. We would have healthy and hearty meals, no need to pay for gym memberships, no time for mass entertainment. Artists would have local audiences, and might make a living wage, instead of plunking out fake tunes on a computer. I was driving to the body shop this morning in the S430, and it dawned on me, radio blasting, that I was going 25mph and what would it have been like a century ago to be on the same street. Horse powered, no radio, maybe all of 10mph at a trot. I would have to sing to myself. Might trust the horse to plod along while reading a book. Unless it were raining. I would need to be bundled up instead of allowing the heat and seat warmer to coddle me. And what of the other traffic? Maybe a garbage cart, no school buses, or distracted mothers in SUV toting kidlets to school. Ice carts, milk cart, tinker, firewood hauler, a carriage or two. Street packed with employed people doing jobs. Fresh food, since it would be hard to put up enough that you could avoid going to the market every few days. It would take a few hours to make a meal for the family instead of tossing some mystery ration into the nuker. clay On Jan 27, 2014, at 3:11 PM, Mountain Man wrote: > clay wrote: >> If we should slow down how productive industry is, we might be able to find >> more productive employment opportunities. >> > > Ahh... > For the days of low productivity and many persons doing what one > person and machines do today. > Totally agree. Decreased productivity means more jobs. Forget about > minimum wage - if we open our hearts and give rather than believe the > lie that *taking is admirable* we might recover the country that made > us great. Think about the low productivity in building 10 airplanes > each day during the war 70 years ago. Nobody complained about wage - > they/we did our job and were happy to put a hand to the task. Today > we would be hard pressed to put a hand to a war machine like in 1940+ > but I would guess if we were inventive we might find efforts for more > of us to work rather than administer, and give rather take. Real work > was accomplished when productivity was much less. Nice catch Clay!! > mao > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth
Curt wrote: > None of that ever seems to come through though. Naysayers and proponents never arrive at an agreeable place, so... we have never seen this happen. I like your idea - large cultural shift away from junk purchases. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth and politicians
Andrew wrote: > very. i was responding to "Diesel head' Gotcha - thanks for the clarify. I will watch for that next time, Mr. Confuser... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth
Craig wrote: > The Bible doesn't condemn wealth. Eh... Wealth we always have. There are always people that have wealth. The issue I intended to highlight is the dynamic that we each know as reality. I don't hang around worthless gramma because I know when she kaks that I will inherit wealth. I hang around gramma because I know she loves having me visit and chat with here like she has nobody else to sit and chat with her. etc. i.e. there is a real dynamic that is more probably understood *not* as religion in terms of bible, but rather as an issue of man to man - It is more blessed to give than to receive. Yes, that is in the Bible, but... we know it from practical life in numerous ways. It is more psychology than religion, especially on okiebenz which has zero purports of religion in its existence. It is nice that we allow some religion to sneak in from time to time but the issue is less religion as part of dialog at okiebenz and more practical life, which, btw, has source statement in the bible. More giving rather than dynamic wealth creation/accumulation might do the country/world some real good. Shall we try? ...lessee... I have 2-bits. Who needs 2-bits? I remember 12 years ago I routinely borrowed Hazet valve adjust wrenches from a guy on Long Island. He would ship to me, I would ship them back. So I paid the post office for passage. That worked until I found some Hazet wrenches from a dealer closeout in CA. That kind of giving rather than receiving. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
