Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Curt Raymond]

I'm in no hurry, just tossing the idea out there. I think I'd want $25 plus 
shipping which is right around what I paid for it. Thats probably a low price 
but I'm not in it to make money.

I think Phillip was reasonably happy with our deal even though IIRC I made him 
provide glass for his lantern.

I know Mike at OldColemanParts pretty well, he was at the Coleman Collectors 
Convention last June.

The new fuel pickup is not required, I didn't do it on the 220F that I 
converted but without a straight tube you get bad pulsing at low temps. At some 
point I plan to pull the fuel/air tube and put a small piece of shrink wrap 
tubing over the air hole. Makes it very easy to go back to instant-lite if I 
want. Valve position won't matter as long as I remove the rod inside the tube. 
I'm not real worried about that, I don't care if the valve needs to be open all 
the way, its not like the valve controls brightness anyway.

You can get around the terrible Coleman mantles by using Peerless, Mike has 
them for just about the same price as Coleman. Thorium coated so they're much 
brighter, they're also slightly larger. Extremely popular in the Amish 
community where they live by gas lights. For a #21 replacement you'd get a 2C 
HG, the #99 is replaced with a #24 Peerless. In our camp I use the 2C HG 
exclusively, they're much brighter on our propane fixtures.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:53:30 -0400
From: John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
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I'm a little low on cash right now; we had the fridge die Monday night and I 
need to put a new front pipe on a 210.025...

Anyhow, I think mine is a 220H, and I put a proper kerosene dip tube in it as 
well as the appropriate generator; take a 220 generator and remove the jet and 
pricker; replace them with the jet and pricker from a 200A generator.  Put a 
preheat cup on it and away you go.

Btw the new Coleman mantles SUCK; they are not thoriated and only produce half 
of the light because of it.

I understand that on the single mantle lanterns, you probably want to use a #99 
mantle for better heating of the generator.

I take it you know of oldcolemanparts.com ?

Oldcolemanparts still has kero fuel tubes; the number is 220F1421, made for the 
206 and 231 (but it fits nicely given the 220 part number base!)

You can get away without the kero tube, but you have to open the valve a lot 
with the gas tube in it, since you aren't going to get any significant quantity 
of vapour through the top holes in the outer shell?



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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Gerry Archer]

- Original Message - 
From: Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com

To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:22 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can



Dieselhead wrote:
 - - - Or 632 coleman lanterns
273 Coleman stoves
4 elderly lawn tractors/mowers
3 schneemobiles
And an International M in a tree farm

Is this a count of the things you have restored, or things you plan to 
restore? For me, the original intent was to restore or repair things and 
continue to use them, but the fact is that I have a full shelf of (and 
more than a few in the yard)  items that need a little TLC (translation - 
they don't work, and most people would throw them away). Oh well, I may as 
well own up and acknowledge that other people did throw them away before I 
claimed them as mine. I suspect this may be an OCD - type of behaviour, 
but I rationalize it by maintaining that I am doing my part to reuse, 
recycle, restore and be green. It borders on taking pride in living off 
the discards of others. Anybody else have this tendency?

Jerry
82 240D


It's common behaviour in this group, and with a subset of perfectionists.
I can't look in any direction in this shop without seeing something that was 
broken and is now working.
Most of us have a healthy attitude toward this tendency since we do buy new 
things when it is prudent to do so.
Gerry 



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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Curt Raymond]

I converted a 220 and a 200a to kerosene a couple years ago, they'll burn 
diesel too if you preheat well enough. In the end I think the 
designed-for-kerosene lanterns do better with the stuff although they tend to 
be less common and more expensive. I haven't bought any lanterns in so long I 
can't remember the last one I bought. I figured with 5 or more waiting in line 
to get fixed I probably shouldn't be buying more.

Sportster you mean a 502? I've got one, its okay. I've got an Optimus 8R I 
like a lot more, see it in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQZ-07MMaJU

I'd consider selling my 502 if you're serious. I've even got the box and 
original instructions. It was maybe used twice when I got it, I've used it 
maybe 5 times. Probably 2 quarts of fuel total in its life.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 21:49:51 -0400
From: John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
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I've only got 1 Coleman, a circa 1974 dual mantle that has been converted to 
kero. I also have a somewhat new-ish (maybe 1980's?) 2 burner stove.

I wouldn't mind having a sportster tho.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Curt Raymond]

Its kind of an at any given moment thing.

I was pleased this year to get up to 4 out of 5 snowmobiles running at any 
given moment. I probably could have gotten the 5th one but it needs some body 
work and I was having so much fun with the other 4...

I only count lanterns when they work, theres at least 5 (I don't think as many 
as 10) that are in line for recuperation, and some of those will get restored. 
I like doing lanterns because it doesn't take very long to get one working 
again and even a full restoration doesn't have that many man hours, most of the 
time is in waiting for the paint to fully harden.

I really get a kick out of bringing something back to life that somebody else 
has deemed broken a lot of times a lantern can come back to life with a new 
fuel cap seal and soaking the pump leather in neets foot oil.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 20:22:14 -0700
From: Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
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Dieselhead wrote: 
 - - - Or 632 coleman lanterns
273 Coleman stoves
4 elderly lawn tractors/mowers
3 schneemobiles
And an International M in a tree farm

Is this a count of the things you have restored, or things you plan to restore? 
For me, the original intent was to restore or repair things and continue to use 
them, but the fact is that I have a full shelf of (and more than a few in the 
yard)  items that need a little TLC (translation - they don't work, and most 
people would throw them away). Oh well, I may as well own up and acknowledge 
that other people did throw them away before I claimed them as mine. I suspect 
this may be an OCD - type of behaviour, but I rationalize it by maintaining 
that I am doing my part to reuse, recycle, restore and be green. It borders 
on taking pride in living off the discards of others. Anybody else have this 
tendency?  
P.S. What is a schneemobile

Jerry
82 240D


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Curt Raymond]

Oh sheesh I forgot about that.

I also forgot to tell you how at the Coleman Collectors Convention last year I 
was heralded as somewhat of an expert on Coleman Irons because I'd actually lit 
one before. Turns out loads of folks have them that they never light. Another 
guy showed up with one just like the one you sold me and we had it going in a 
few minutes by giving it a new fuel cap seal, which is the same thing I had to 
do to mine.

Still need to take mine apart and give it a good inside cleaning, it tends to 
whoof and go out. Its got some dust inside the burner. I considered it 
yesterday but instead worked on a video. I make a little money off the videos 
(about $5/mo) so I figure time invested in making videos is worth it.

At some point I intend to do an iron video. I'd like to do it as a period 
piece, the gentleman's gentleman showing the wonderful new iron...

-Curt

Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 23:34:21 -0500
From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
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Do you still have the Coleman iron?


On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Last I counted there were like 31 or 32 lanterns (I might have forgot 2 at
 camp and a couple in the house), I think theres maybe 9 stoves (anybody
 want a camp stove?), 2 lamps, one of which isn't Coleman.
 1 Snapper RER (rear engine rider) circa 1965
 1 Cub Cadet Model 70 circa 1964 - due for diesel engine upgrade
 2x motorcycles
 5x snowmobiles (probably should sell one but each has a purpose)
 1 Cub Cadet Model 72 circa 1967 - that one is at camp and doesn't really
 count
 the Farmall Super M circa 1952

 oh and theres a lawn tractor at camp, Craftsman I think, 17hp, it does a
 pretty good job but is rather forgettable.

 -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Jim Cathey]

I really get a kick out of bringing something back to life that 
somebody else has deemed broken


Me too.  Latest was the BIL's front door latch.  They've been
entering the house through the garage for a couple of years now.
I disassembled it, a quality item, and found that ham-handedness
had broken off a too-cheap bit of zinc casting.  (The thumb lever
axle pin goes through two of these ears, one was broken off.)  The
crap design has too little metal in the area to sustain taking
much force.  It really needs a new part, probably which can't
be obtained.  I flailed around with some stiff iron wire and
managed to make a harness for the hinge pin that keeps the axle
pinned against what remains of the casting.  Told 'em to treat
it gently and it might hold up for awhile, while a part (or
replacement door handle) was sought.  They seemed to appreciate
the fix, and youth pastor salaries being what they are, it'll
probably stay the way I rigged it for some time, assuming it
holds up and they treat it gently.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Jim Cathey]

At some point I intend to do an iron video. I'd like to do it as a 
period piece, the gentleman's gentleman showing the wonderful new 
iron...


Costuming counts in this sort of thing.  Maybe with one
stunningly stupid anachronism for fun...

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[WILTON]

Almost always find it exactly where you put it so you'd know where it is but 
forgot where that was 'til you found it.   ;)


Wilton

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From: clay redgh...@comcast.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can


That is my M.O.  Keep finding the stuff I already had in the parts area, 
then it goes missing, but ends up just where I left it.  In the mean time, 
the other stuff goes misplaces, and I am on the hunt for more AWOL parts


clay


On Apr 10, 2013, at 5:43 PM, WILTON wrote:

Or can't find when I need it, go buy another one, then find the first one. 
;)


Wilt

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Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can


Sometimes I remember that I purchased some parts or supplies for a 
project, but when I finally make time to put them to use, too often I 
can't find them!


--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Well, the desk has gotten sorta cluttered, but the POR 15 was in a
cabinet
across the room.  'Even remembered where it was; opened door and voila!

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Max Dillon 
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Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can



Isn't it amazing what we find when we clean our desk!  ;)
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Guess what I just found!!  I have right here on my desk a POR 15

SUPER

STARTER KIT - never opened; got it 8 or 9 years ago to try on a small
place
on underside of '81 300D I had then - sold the car before using the

POR

15.
I have a small plastic jar of METAL READY, small plastic jar of

MARINE

CLEAN
and a small can of RUST PREVENTIVE PAINT.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can


Clean loose scale when dry.  Paint the inside
with POR 15.   After dry, recoat if necessary,
but for pinholes, one coat should do.  Then paint
with galvanized paint

You may want to paint the underside too.



OK, here's another chance for y'all (Southern for youse guys ;))

to



excel.

We have an antique, galvanized steel watering can almost identical

to

the

one shown in the following link:

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=antique+galvanized+watering+canid=2C3B1E48FDA1402B82F35E24BFA2BAA0194CEFBBFORM=IQFRBA#

SWMBO's mother had it sitting around her yard MANY years (I remember

seeing

it there sixty years ago - 'thought it was old then).  Son # 1 shot

the

side of it with a B B more than 50 years ago, so it still has a

little

B B

ding on the side that has not been a problem.  SWMBO's been using it

around

the yard for about 43 years.  Well, I was sitting out on the side

terrace a

little while ago enjoying the sunny, 82° afternoon, picked up the

watering

can and held it up to look at the bottom of it and noticed 3 or 4

small

holes in the bottom. Finally, here's the question - chance for y'all

to

excel - how can I clean the inside, bottom of it well enough and

then,



maybe, pour in some type of epoxy, or goopy material which could

ooze

out

through the little holes and seal the can so we can keep using it

for

another 50 years?  Suggestions, tips?

TIA

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[WILTON]

We have several nice-looking and very functional chairs and small tables 
around the house that I salvaged from neighbors' discard pile at the street 
45 to 50 years ago.  One of my favorite chairs is a $2 maple chair that I 
purchased in a junk store in Macon, GA, 50 years ago; 'repaired and 
refinished it.  We still call it the $2 chair.  In the MI UP 40 years ago, 
SWMBO went junking through the countryside one afternoon and came home 
with six oak cane-bottom chairs @ $4 each; used parts of the worst one to 
repair the others; refinished and installed new caning; 'been using them at 
our kitchen table for 39 years; replaced cane bottoms twice since I did 'em 
first 40 years ago.  'Went to a party one night at a friend's house at 
Mather AFB, CA, in '62.  As I pulled into friend's driveway, I noticed small 
butterfly table lying on discard pile at the street.  I asked friend, Are 
you throwing that table away?  Yes, he replied, You may have it if you 
want.  'Repaired it, removed white paint, refinished it with more 
appropriate stain and varnish; 'in use right now in 2nd floor bedroom. 
'Many more items around the house like that.  'Could write a small book 
'bout 'em.


Oh, BTW, there are a FEW things around the house that we bought new, but 
many of the things we enjoy most are those that had been thrown away.  ;)


Wilton

- Original Message - 
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can


I really get a kick out of bringing something back to life that somebody 
else has deemed broken


Me too.  Latest was the BIL's front door latch.  They've been
entering the house through the garage for a couple of years now.
I disassembled it, a quality item, and found that ham-handedness
had broken off a too-cheap bit of zinc casting.  (The thumb lever
axle pin goes through two of these ears, one was broken off.)  The
crap design has too little metal in the area to sustain taking
much force.  It really needs a new part, probably which can't
be obtained.  I flailed around with some stiff iron wire and
managed to make a harness for the hinge pin that keeps the axle
pinned against what remains of the casting.  Told 'em to treat
it gently and it might hold up for awhile, while a part (or
replacement door handle) was sought.  They seemed to appreciate
the fix, and youth pastor salaries being what they are, it'll
probably stay the way I rigged it for some time, assuming it
holds up and they treat it gently.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Andrew Strasfogel]

WWW  = Waste not, Want not Wilton

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:45 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 We have several nice-looking and very functional chairs and small tables
 around the house that I salvaged from neighbors' discard pile at the street
 45 to 50 years ago.  One of my favorite chairs is a $2 maple chair that I
 purchased in a junk store in Macon, GA, 50 years ago; 'repaired and
 refinished it.  We still call it the $2 chair.  In the MI UP 40 years
 ago, SWMBO went junking through the countryside one afternoon and came
 home with six oak cane-bottom chairs @ $4 each; used parts of the worst one
 to repair the others; refinished and installed new caning; 'been using them
 at our kitchen table for 39 years; replaced cane bottoms twice since I did
 'em first 40 years ago.  'Went to a party one night at a friend's house at
 Mather AFB, CA, in '62.  As I pulled into friend's driveway, I noticed
 small butterfly table lying on discard pile at the street.  I asked friend,
 Are you throwing that table away?  Yes, he replied, You may have it if
 you want.  'Repaired it, removed white paint, refinished it with more
 appropriate stain and varnish; 'in use right now in 2nd floor bedroom.
 'Many more items around the house like that.  'Could write a small book
 'bout 'em.

 Oh, BTW, there are a FEW things around the house that we bought new, but
 many of the things we enjoy most are those that had been thrown away.  ;)

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:36 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can


  I really get a kick out of bringing something back to life that somebody
 else has deemed broken


 Me too.  Latest was the BIL's front door latch.  They've been
 entering the house through the garage for a couple of years now.
 I disassembled it, a quality item, and found that ham-handedness
 had broken off a too-cheap bit of zinc casting.  (The thumb lever
 axle pin goes through two of these ears, one was broken off.)  The
 crap design has too little metal in the area to sustain taking
 much force.  It really needs a new part, probably which can't
 be obtained.  I flailed around with some stiff iron wire and
 managed to make a harness for the hinge pin that keeps the axle
 pinned against what remains of the casting.  Told 'em to treat
 it gently and it might hold up for awhile, while a part (or
 replacement door handle) was sought.  They seemed to appreciate
 the fix, and youth pastor salaries being what they are, it'll
 probably stay the way I rigged it for some time, assuming it
 holds up and they treat it gently.

 -- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Randy Bennell]

I cannot help but think that the only proper way to repair the watering 
can is to solder it.
Messing about with epoxy or POR etc is just not the right way to fix 
something like this.


People repair fuel tanks with plastics etc in an effort to avoid the big 
BOOM but there is no need to worry about that with your watering can.


If you solder it reasonably nicely it will be almost invisible.

I don't think there is any real issue with soldering galvanized metal.
Welding it gets it hot enough to give off bad fumes but soldering is not 
likely to get anywhere near that hot and if you do it outdoors, I see 
little danger to you.


In order to do a good job on galvanized metal you really need some acid 
to eat away the galvanized coating anyway.


I did some soldering of galvanized eavestroughing a number of years ago 
and did not have the right acid but did manage to do it with the flux 
intended for soldering together copper pipe.


Randy



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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Frederick Moir]

Soldering galvanized metal, use zinc solder.
Low temp, no fumes.


 
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.



 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
 

I cannot help but think that the only proper way to repair the watering can is 
to solder it.
Messing about with epoxy or POR etc is just not the right way to fix something 
like this.

People repair fuel tanks with plastics etc in an effort to avoid the big BOOM 
but there is no need to worry about that with your watering can.

If you solder it reasonably nicely it will be almost invisible.

I don't think there is any real issue with soldering galvanized metal.
Welding it gets it hot enough to give off bad fumes but soldering is not 
likely to get anywhere near that hot and if you do it outdoors, I see little 
danger to you.

In order to do a good job on galvanized metal you really need some acid to eat 
away the galvanized coating anyway.

I did some soldering of galvanized eavestroughing a number of years ago and 
did not have the right acid but did manage to do it with the flux intended for 
soldering together copper pipe.

Randy



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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[WILTON]

There's no zinc right around the holes in this can - just rusty steel.

Wilton

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Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can


Soldering galvanized metal, use zinc solder.
Low temp, no fumes.



Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.




From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can


I cannot help but think that the only proper way to repair the watering can 
is to solder it.
Messing about with epoxy or POR etc is just not the right way to fix 
something like this.


People repair fuel tanks with plastics etc in an effort to avoid the big 
BOOM but there is no need to worry about that with your watering can.


If you solder it reasonably nicely it will be almost invisible.

I don't think there is any real issue with soldering galvanized metal.
Welding it gets it hot enough to give off bad fumes but soldering is not 
likely to get anywhere near that hot and if you do it outdoors, I see 
little danger to you.


In order to do a good job on galvanized metal you really need some acid to 
eat away the galvanized coating anyway.


I did some soldering of galvanized eavestroughing a number of years ago and 
did not have the right acid but did manage to do it with the flux intended 
for soldering together copper pipe.


Randy



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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Rich Thomas]

Can one do the electrolysis thing on galvanized or does that make really 
nasty stuff?


--R


On 4/11/13 12:56 PM, WILTON wrote:

There's no zinc right around the holes in this can - just rusty steel.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Frederick Moir 
fredy4.s...@yahoo.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can


Soldering galvanized metal, use zinc solder.
Low temp, no fumes.



Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.




From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can


I cannot help but think that the only proper way to repair the 
watering can is to solder it.
Messing about with epoxy or POR etc is just not the right way to fix 
something like this.


People repair fuel tanks with plastics etc in an effort to avoid the 
big BOOM but there is no need to worry about that with your watering 
can.


If you solder it reasonably nicely it will be almost invisible.

I don't think there is any real issue with soldering galvanized metal.
Welding it gets it hot enough to give off bad fumes but soldering is 
not likely to get anywhere near that hot and if you do it outdoors, I 
see little danger to you.


In order to do a good job on galvanized metal you really need some 
acid to eat away the galvanized coating anyway.


I did some soldering of galvanized eavestroughing a number of years 
ago and did not have the right acid but did manage to do it with the 
flux intended for soldering together copper pipe.


Randy



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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Frederick Moir]

Wilton.
Ooops, sorry.
Forgot to mention metal prep.
The 6P principle states that Proper preparation prevents piss-poor performance
From this list, you now have about 90% of the wisdom of the world which will 
allow you to turn the watering can into a planter.


Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.



 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
 

There's no zinc right around the holes in this can - just rusty steel.

Wilton

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From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can


Soldering galvanized metal, use zinc solder.
Low temp, no fumes.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[WILTON]

Yep.  I do appreciate it, though; there are some good tips and reminders.

Wilton

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Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can



Wilton.
Ooops, sorry.
Forgot to mention metal prep.
The 6P principle states that Proper preparation prevents piss-poor 
performance
From this list, you now have about 90% of the wisdom of the world which 
will allow you to turn the watering can into a planter.



Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.




From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can


There's no zinc right around the holes in this can - just rusty steel.

Wilton

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From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can


Soldering galvanized metal, use zinc solder.
Low temp, no fumes.



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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Dieselhead]

WWW  = Waste not, Want not Wilton


If we could get MMM back, that would go well with Worldly Wise Wilton (WWW)

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[WILTON]

But I'm afraid he's not really so worldly wise - well, not nearly enough, 
anyway.  ;)


Wilton

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Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can



WWW  = Waste not, Want not Wilton

If we could get MMM back, that would go well with Worldly Wise Wilton 
(WWW)


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[John Reames]

I'm a little low on cash right now; we had the fridge die Monday night and I 
need to put a new front pipe on a 210.025...

Anyhow, I think mine is a 220H, and I put a proper kerosene dip tube in it as 
well as the appropriate generator; take a 220 generator and remove the jet and 
pricker; replace them with the jet and pricker from a 200A generator.  Put a 
preheat cup on it and away you go.

Btw the new Coleman mantles SUCK; they are not thoriated and only produce half 
of the light because of it.

I understand that on the single mantle lanterns, you probably want to use a #99 
mantle for better heating of the generator.

I take it you know of oldcolemanparts.com ?

Oldcolemanparts still has kero fuel tubes; the number is 220F1421, made for the 
206 and 231 (but it fits nicely given the 220 part number base!)

You can get away without the kero tube, but you have to open the valve a lot 
with the gas tube in it, since you aren't going to get any significant quantity 
of vapour through the top holes in the outer shell…



--
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Mobile: +14437915905

On Apr 11, 2013, at 9:15, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I converted a 220 and a 200a to kerosene a couple years ago, they'll burn 
 diesel too if you preheat well enough. In the end I think the 
 designed-for-kerosene lanterns do better with the stuff although they tend to 
 be less common and more expensive. I haven't bought any lanterns in so long I 
 can't remember the last one I bought. I figured with 5 or more waiting in 
 line to get fixed I probably shouldn't be buying more.
 
 Sportster you mean a 502? I've got one, its okay. I've got an Optimus 8R I 
 like a lot more, see it in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQZ-07MMaJU
 
 I'd consider selling my 502 if you're serious. I've even got the box and 
 original instructions. It was maybe used twice when I got it, I've used it 
 maybe 5 times. Probably 2 quarts of fuel total in its life.
 
 -Curt
 
 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 21:49:51 -0400
 From: John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
 Message-ID: 84825031-7b17-4e45-ae39-483a0774e...@comcast.net
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 I've only got 1 Coleman, a circa 1974 dual mantle that has been converted to 
 kero. I also have a somewhat new-ish (maybe 1980's?) 2 burner stove.
 
 I wouldn't mind having a sportster tho.
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Randy Bennell]

On 11/04/2013 12:30 PM, WILTON wrote:

Yep.  I do appreciate it, though; there are some good tips and reminders.

Wilton

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Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can



Wilton.
Ooops, sorry.
Forgot to mention metal prep.
The 6P principle states that Proper preparation prevents piss-poor 
performance
From this list, you now have about 90% of the wisdom of the world 
which will allow you to turn the watering can into a planter.



Fred Moir



So, once you have soldered or otherwise patched the holes, you should 
drill some nice new ones to provide drainage if you wife decides it 
would make a good planter.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[WILTON]

I think when and if it ever becomes a planter, it'll have good drainage. 
;)


Wilton

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Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can



On 11/04/2013 12:30 PM, WILTON wrote:

Yep.  I do appreciate it, though; there are some good tips and reminders.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Frederick Moir 
fredy4.s...@yahoo.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can



Wilton.
Ooops, sorry.
Forgot to mention metal prep.
The 6P principle states that Proper preparation prevents piss-poor 
performance
From this list, you now have about 90% of the wisdom of the world which 
will allow you to turn the watering can into a planter.



Fred Moir



So, once you have soldered or otherwise patched the holes, you should 
drill some nice new ones to provide drainage if you wife decides it would 
make a good planter.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Dieselhead]

But I'm afraid he's not really so worldly wise - well, not nearly 
enough, anyway.  ;)


Wilton


Worldly , as in well travelled; lotsa miles around/above our world. 
Not the other definition.


Wise, well, that is self-explanatory.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[WILTON]

'Thought about putting a bit of gravel in can and mounting it onto back of 
the JD mower (garden tractor) in coupla days; 'may do that, but I haven't 
noticed that the mower/tractor vibrates much - it may, and I just haven't 
noticed it.


'Guess I could make one of the MB's run a little rough and mount the can on 
top of the engine and let it sit and idle all afternoon.  ;)


Wilton

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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 2:01 AM
Subject: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can


Hey thanks, G Mann, for that suggestion. It sounds like it would do the 
trick and come in under budget. If you think you hear your ol' tractor 
goin', its probably just me trying your remedy.


Jerry
82 240D


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Curt Raymond]

We go through this with Coleman lanterns all the time. They get water in them 
from condensation or whatever and get rusty. In most places just cleaning isn't 
enough because it'll rust again.

Get the fuel tank sealer kit from POR15, use the marine clean and metal ready 
to get the tank good and clean. DON'T open the can of sealer. Take 2 sheet 
metal screws with rubber gaskets (probably have to make the gaskets) and run 
'em into the top of the cap. Now your can is easily resealable.
Put about an ounce (maybe 1/4 can) into the tank (follow all the other 
instructions up to this point), slosh it all around good, let it dry for a 
couple days, no added heat, that'll make it bubble.

Yeah its probably more money than its worth but it'll make sure you never have 
this problem again. Careful though, this might start you down the road of 
fixing things and the next thing you know you'll have a like-new mower...

-Curt

Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 20:20:01 -0700
From: Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
Message-ID: 50F1C19A6ECA4BC4B8377FFEB175BC59@JerryPC
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

This post reminds me of a problem I have been stewing about. I have an old 
McLane (the actual brand is Montgomery-Ward) front-throw reel mower which has 
been sitting out in the back yard unused and in the weather because it became 
difficult to start last year. It looks like the one in this link, except you 
have to mentally erase all the paint and imagine how it would look after years 
of hard livin'. 

http://www.mclanemower.com/reel_mowers.htm

In the process of cleaning  the carb and replacing the old diaphragm, I 
discovered that the gas tank is kinda rusty inside. Its really hard get any 
access inside there, but I did put in some loose hardware and shook it about 
with some gasoline, then poured out the rusty mixture. Lathered, rinsed, 
repeated several times. That was two months ago. (I suppose all the rust I 
removed has re-established itself due to this recent neglect.) I plan to shake 
it out again, but I am seeking advice in case someone has had some experience 
cleaning out a tank like this. Looking at the prices of POR 15, I don't think 
this old machine justifies spending that much money. Would drying it out, then 
keeping a mixture of motor oil and gas keep the rust to a minimum? Of course, I 
realize the correct solution is to replace the tank, but that ain't gonna 
happen. The most I would spend would a couple of dollars. Any suggestions?

Jerry
82 240D

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[WILTON]

Guess what I just found!!  I have right here on my desk a POR 15 SUPER 
STARTER KIT - never opened; got it 8 or 9 years ago to try on a small place 
on underside of '81 300D I had then - sold the car before using the POR 15. 
I have a small plastic jar of METAL READY, small plastic jar of MARINE CLEAN 
and a small can of RUST PREVENTIVE PAINT.


Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can


Clean loose scale when dry.  Paint the inside
with POR 15.   After dry, recoat if necessary,
but for pinholes, one coat should do.  Then paint
with galvanized paint

You may want to paint the underside too.


 OK, here's another chance for y'all (Southern for youse guys ;)) to 
excel.


We have an antique, galvanized steel watering can almost identical to the 
one shown in the following link:


http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=antique+galvanized+watering+canid=2C3B1E48FDA1402B82F35E24BFA2BAA0194CEFBBFORM=IQFRBA#

SWMBO's mother had it sitting around her yard MANY years (I remember seeing 
it there sixty years ago - 'thought it was old then).  Son # 1 shot the 
side of it with a B B more than 50 years ago, so it still has a little B B 
ding on the side that has not been a problem.  SWMBO's been using it around 
the yard for about 43 years.  Well, I was sitting out on the side terrace a 
little while ago enjoying the sunny, 82° afternoon, picked up the watering 
can and held it up to look at the bottom of it and noticed 3 or 4 small 
holes in the bottom. Finally, here's the question - chance for y'all to 
excel - how can I clean the inside, bottom of it well enough and then, 
maybe, pour in some type of epoxy, or goopy material which could ooze out 
through the little holes and seal the can so we can keep using it for 
another 50 years?  Suggestions, tips?


TIA

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[WILTON]

'Just washed out the can and left it in sun to dry.  Bottom seems to be 
fairly covered with zinc, 'cept small areas around the holes, which are a 
little bigger than I thought yesterday - guess one could call 'em big pin 
holes, 'stead of small pin holes, couple of 'em maybe twice the size (maybe 
a little more) of this period.  'Couple of 'em 'bout the size of apostrophe 
( ' ), maybe a little more.  Wonder if 2 or 3 coats of POR 15'll fill 'em. 
How thick is the material in the small can in the starter kit?


Wilton

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Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can


Guess what I just found!!  I have right here on my desk a POR 15 SUPER
STARTER KIT - never opened; got it 8 or 9 years ago to try on a small place
on underside of '81 300D I had then - sold the car before using the POR 15.
I have a small plastic jar of METAL READY, small plastic jar of MARINE CLEAN
and a small can of RUST PREVENTIVE PAINT.

Wilton

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From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can


Clean loose scale when dry.  Paint the inside
with POR 15.   After dry, recoat if necessary,
but for pinholes, one coat should do.  Then paint
with galvanized paint

You may want to paint the underside too.


 OK, here's another chance for y'all (Southern for youse guys ;)) to 
excel.


We have an antique, galvanized steel watering can almost identical to the 
one shown in the following link:


http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=antique+galvanized+watering+canid=2C3B1E48FDA1402B82F35E24BFA2BAA0194CEFBBFORM=IQFRBA#

SWMBO's mother had it sitting around her yard MANY years (I remember seeing 
it there sixty years ago - 'thought it was old then).  Son # 1 shot the 
side of it with a B B more than 50 years ago, so it still has a little B B 
ding on the side that has not been a problem.  SWMBO's been using it around 
the yard for about 43 years.  Well, I was sitting out on the side terrace a 
little while ago enjoying the sunny, 82° afternoon, picked up the watering 
can and held it up to look at the bottom of it and noticed 3 or 4 small 
holes in the bottom. Finally, here's the question - chance for y'all to 
excel - how can I clean the inside, bottom of it well enough and then, 
maybe, pour in some type of epoxy, or goopy material which could ooze out 
through the little holes and seal the can so we can keep using it for 
another 50 years?  Suggestions, tips?


TIA

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Rich Thomas]

You could go the old-fashioned route and patch it up with lead or solder.

--R


On 4/10/13 5:01 PM, WILTON wrote:
'Just washed out the can and left it in sun to dry. Bottom seems to be 
fairly covered with zinc, 'cept small areas around the holes, which 
are a little bigger than I thought yesterday - guess one could call 
'em big pin holes, 'stead of small pin holes, couple of 'em maybe 
twice the size (maybe a little more) of this period.  'Couple of 'em 
'bout the size of apostrophe ( ' ), maybe a little more.  Wonder if 2 
or 3 coats of POR 15'll fill 'em. How thick is the material in the 
small can in the starter kit?


Wilton

- Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can


Guess what I just found!!  I have right here on my desk a POR 15 SUPER
STARTER KIT - never opened; got it 8 or 9 years ago to try on a small 
place
on underside of '81 300D I had then - sold the car before using the 
POR 15.
I have a small plastic jar of METAL READY, small plastic jar of MARINE 
CLEAN

and a small can of RUST PREVENTIVE PAINT.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can


Clean loose scale when dry.  Paint the inside
with POR 15.   After dry, recoat if necessary,
but for pinholes, one coat should do.  Then paint
with galvanized paint

You may want to paint the underside too.


 OK, here's another chance for y'all (Southern for youse guys ;)) to 
excel.


We have an antique, galvanized steel watering can almost identical to 
the one shown in the following link:


http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=antique+galvanized+watering+canid=2C3B1E48FDA1402B82F35E24BFA2BAA0194CEFBBFORM=IQFRBA# 



SWMBO's mother had it sitting around her yard MANY years (I remember 
seeing it there sixty years ago - 'thought it was old then).  Son # 1 
shot the side of it with a B B more than 50 years ago, so it still 
has a little B B ding on the side that has not been a problem.  
SWMBO's been using it around the yard for about 43 years.  Well, I 
was sitting out on the side terrace a little while ago enjoying the 
sunny, 82° afternoon, picked up the watering can and held it up to 
look at the bottom of it and noticed 3 or 4 small holes in the 
bottom. Finally, here's the question - chance for y'all to excel - 
how can I clean the inside, bottom of it well enough and then, maybe, 
pour in some type of epoxy, or goopy material which could ooze out 
through the little holes and seal the can so we can keep using it for 
another 50 years?  Suggestions, tips?


TIA

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Max Dillon]

Isn't it amazing what we find when we clean our desk!  ;)
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

Guess what I just found!!  I have right here on my desk a POR 15 SUPER 
STARTER KIT - never opened; got it 8 or 9 years ago to try on a small
place 
on underside of '81 300D I had then - sold the car before using the POR
15. 
I have a small plastic jar of METAL READY, small plastic jar of MARINE
CLEAN 
and a small can of RUST PREVENTIVE PAINT.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can


Clean loose scale when dry.  Paint the inside
with POR 15.   After dry, recoat if necessary,
but for pinholes, one coat should do.  Then paint
with galvanized paint

You may want to paint the underside too.


  OK, here's another chance for y'all (Southern for youse guys ;)) to

 excel.

We have an antique, galvanized steel watering can almost identical to
the 
one shown in the following link:

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=antique+galvanized+watering+canid=2C3B1E48FDA1402B82F35E24BFA2BAA0194CEFBBFORM=IQFRBA#

SWMBO's mother had it sitting around her yard MANY years (I remember
seeing 
it there sixty years ago - 'thought it was old then).  Son # 1 shot
the 
side of it with a B B more than 50 years ago, so it still has a little
B B 
ding on the side that has not been a problem.  SWMBO's been using it
around 
the yard for about 43 years.  Well, I was sitting out on the side
terrace a 
little while ago enjoying the sunny, 82° afternoon, picked up the
watering 
can and held it up to look at the bottom of it and noticed 3 or 4
small 
holes in the bottom. Finally, here's the question - chance for y'all
to 
excel - how can I clean the inside, bottom of it well enough and then,

maybe, pour in some type of epoxy, or goopy material which could ooze
out 
through the little holes and seal the can so we can keep using it for 
another 50 years?  Suggestions, tips?

TIA

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[WILTON]

Well, the desk has gotten sorta cluttered, but the POR 15 was in a cabinet 
across the room.  'Even remembered where it was; opened door and voila!


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can



Isn't it amazing what we find when we clean our desk!  ;)
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Guess what I just found!!  I have right here on my desk a POR 15 SUPER
STARTER KIT - never opened; got it 8 or 9 years ago to try on a small
place
on underside of '81 300D I had then - sold the car before using the POR
15.
I have a small plastic jar of METAL READY, small plastic jar of MARINE
CLEAN
and a small can of RUST PREVENTIVE PAINT.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can


Clean loose scale when dry.  Paint the inside
with POR 15.   After dry, recoat if necessary,
but for pinholes, one coat should do.  Then paint
with galvanized paint

You may want to paint the underside too.



 OK, here's another chance for y'all (Southern for youse guys ;)) to



excel.

We have an antique, galvanized steel watering can almost identical to

the

one shown in the following link:

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=antique+galvanized+watering+canid=2C3B1E48FDA1402B82F35E24BFA2BAA0194CEFBBFORM=IQFRBA#

SWMBO's mother had it sitting around her yard MANY years (I remember

seeing

it there sixty years ago - 'thought it was old then).  Son # 1 shot

the

side of it with a B B more than 50 years ago, so it still has a little

B B

ding on the side that has not been a problem.  SWMBO's been using it

around

the yard for about 43 years.  Well, I was sitting out on the side

terrace a

little while ago enjoying the sunny, 82° afternoon, picked up the

watering

can and held it up to look at the bottom of it and noticed 3 or 4

small

holes in the bottom. Finally, here's the question - chance for y'all

to

excel - how can I clean the inside, bottom of it well enough and then,



maybe, pour in some type of epoxy, or goopy material which could ooze

out

through the little holes and seal the can so we can keep using it for
another 50 years?  Suggestions, tips?

TIA

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Max Dillon]

Sometimes I remember that I purchased some parts or supplies for a project, but 
when I finally make time to put them to use, too often I can't find them!

-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

Well, the desk has gotten sorta cluttered, but the POR 15 was in a
cabinet 
across the room.  'Even remembered where it was; opened door and voila!

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can


 Isn't it amazing what we find when we clean our desk!  ;)
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

Guess what I just found!!  I have right here on my desk a POR 15
SUPER
STARTER KIT - never opened; got it 8 or 9 years ago to try on a small
place
on underside of '81 300D I had then - sold the car before using the
POR
15.
I have a small plastic jar of METAL READY, small plastic jar of
MARINE
CLEAN
and a small can of RUST PREVENTIVE PAINT.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can


Clean loose scale when dry.  Paint the inside
with POR 15.   After dry, recoat if necessary,
but for pinholes, one coat should do.  Then paint
with galvanized paint

You may want to paint the underside too.


  OK, here's another chance for y'all (Southern for youse guys ;))
to

 excel.

We have an antique, galvanized steel watering can almost identical
to
the
one shown in the following link:

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=antique+galvanized+watering+canid=2C3B1E48FDA1402B82F35E24BFA2BAA0194CEFBBFORM=IQFRBA#

SWMBO's mother had it sitting around her yard MANY years (I remember
seeing
it there sixty years ago - 'thought it was old then).  Son # 1 shot
the
side of it with a B B more than 50 years ago, so it still has a
little
B B
ding on the side that has not been a problem.  SWMBO's been using it
around
the yard for about 43 years.  Well, I was sitting out on the side
terrace a
little while ago enjoying the sunny, 82° afternoon, picked up the
watering
can and held it up to look at the bottom of it and noticed 3 or 4
small
holes in the bottom. Finally, here's the question - chance for y'all
to
excel - how can I clean the inside, bottom of it well enough and
then,

maybe, pour in some type of epoxy, or goopy material which could
ooze
out
through the little holes and seal the can so we can keep using it
for
another 50 years?  Suggestions, tips?

TIA

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[WILTON]

Or can't find when I need it, go buy another one, then find the first one. 
;)


Wilt

- Original Message - 
From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can


Sometimes I remember that I purchased some parts or supplies for a 
project, but when I finally make time to put them to use, too often I 
can't find them!


--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Well, the desk has gotten sorta cluttered, but the POR 15 was in a
cabinet
across the room.  'Even remembered where it was; opened door and voila!

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can



Isn't it amazing what we find when we clean our desk!  ;)
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Guess what I just found!!  I have right here on my desk a POR 15

SUPER

STARTER KIT - never opened; got it 8 or 9 years ago to try on a small
place
on underside of '81 300D I had then - sold the car before using the

POR

15.
I have a small plastic jar of METAL READY, small plastic jar of

MARINE

CLEAN
and a small can of RUST PREVENTIVE PAINT.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can


Clean loose scale when dry.  Paint the inside
with POR 15.   After dry, recoat if necessary,
but for pinholes, one coat should do.  Then paint
with galvanized paint

You may want to paint the underside too.



 OK, here's another chance for y'all (Southern for youse guys ;))

to



excel.

We have an antique, galvanized steel watering can almost identical

to

the

one shown in the following link:

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=antique+galvanized+watering+canid=2C3B1E48FDA1402B82F35E24BFA2BAA0194CEFBBFORM=IQFRBA#

SWMBO's mother had it sitting around her yard MANY years (I remember

seeing

it there sixty years ago - 'thought it was old then).  Son # 1 shot

the

side of it with a B B more than 50 years ago, so it still has a

little

B B

ding on the side that has not been a problem.  SWMBO's been using it

around

the yard for about 43 years.  Well, I was sitting out on the side

terrace a

little while ago enjoying the sunny, 82° afternoon, picked up the

watering

can and held it up to look at the bottom of it and noticed 3 or 4

small

holes in the bottom. Finally, here's the question - chance for y'all

to

excel - how can I clean the inside, bottom of it well enough and

then,



maybe, pour in some type of epoxy, or goopy material which could

ooze

out

through the little holes and seal the can so we can keep using it

for

another 50 years?  Suggestions, tips?

TIA

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[WILTON]

'Gave my soldering stuff to BIL several years ago when my tremor got so bad 
I thought I'd never be able to use it again.  'Had 5 or 6 years now with 
very little tremor; some returning last 2 or 3 months.  Just hope it doesn't 
get really bad again.


Wilton

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From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can


You could go the old-fashioned route and patch it up with lead or solder.

--R


On 4/10/13 5:01 PM, WILTON wrote:
'Just washed out the can and left it in sun to dry. Bottom seems to be 
fairly covered with zinc, 'cept small areas around the holes, which are a 
little bigger than I thought yesterday - guess one could call 'em big pin 
holes, 'stead of small pin holes, couple of 'em maybe twice the size 
(maybe a little more) of this period.  'Couple of 'em 'bout the size of 
apostrophe ( ' ), maybe a little more.  Wonder if 2 or 3 coats of POR 
15'll fill 'em. How thick is the material in the small can in the starter 
kit?


Wilton

- Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can


Guess what I just found!!  I have right here on my desk a POR 15 SUPER
STARTER KIT - never opened; got it 8 or 9 years ago to try on a small 
place
on underside of '81 300D I had then - sold the car before using the POR 
15.
I have a small plastic jar of METAL READY, small plastic jar of MARINE 
CLEAN

and a small can of RUST PREVENTIVE PAINT.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can


Clean loose scale when dry.  Paint the inside
with POR 15.   After dry, recoat if necessary,
but for pinholes, one coat should do.  Then paint
with galvanized paint

You may want to paint the underside too.


 OK, here's another chance for y'all (Southern for youse guys ;)) to 
excel.


We have an antique, galvanized steel watering can almost identical to the 
one shown in the following link:


http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=antique+galvanized+watering+canid=2C3B1E48FDA1402B82F35E24BFA2BAA0194CEFBBFORM=IQFRBA#

SWMBO's mother had it sitting around her yard MANY years (I remember 
seeing it there sixty years ago - 'thought it was old then).  Son # 1 
shot the side of it with a B B more than 50 years ago, so it still has a 
little B B ding on the side that has not been a problem.  SWMBO's been 
using it around the yard for about 43 years.  Well, I was sitting out on 
the side terrace a little while ago enjoying the sunny, 82° afternoon, 
picked up the watering can and held it up to look at the bottom of it and 
noticed 3 or 4 small holes in the bottom. Finally, here's the question - 
chance for y'all to excel - how can I clean the inside, bottom of it well 
enough and then, maybe, pour in some type of epoxy, or goopy material 
which could ooze out through the little holes and seal the can so we can 
keep using it for another 50 years?  Suggestions, tips?


TIA

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Dieselhead]

Yeah its probably more money than its worth but it'll make sure you 
never have this problem again. Careful though, this might start you 
down the road of fixing things and the next thing you know you'll 
have a like-new mower...


-Curt


Or 632 coleman lanterns
273 Coleman stoves
4 elderly lawn tractors/mowers
3 schneemobiles
And an International M in a tree farm

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Curt Raymond]

Great!

Remember what I told the other poster about using 2 sheet metal screws with 
rubber gaskets, otherwise you'll waste a lot of the POR15. You'll only need a 
little for this project.

I've got a can of POR15 gas tank sealer on my workbench that is, I think, 2 
years old. I originally bought it to seal a lantern. I think its done 3 
lanterns now (I only seal the bottom which is the point most likely to rust) 
and a lawn tractor gas tank...

-Curt

Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 15:58:44 -0400
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
Message-ID: C6A92A6667BA4B3296ED2B088096BE4A@wiltonPC
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Guess what I just found!!  I have right here on my desk a POR 15 SUPER 
STARTER KIT - never opened; got it 8 or 9 years ago to try on a small place 
on underside of '81 300D I had then - sold the car before using the POR 15. 
I have a small plastic jar of METAL READY, small plastic jar of MARINE CLEAN 
and a small can of RUST PREVENTIVE PAINT.

Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Curt Raymond]

Last I counted there were like 31 or 32 lanterns (I might have forgot 2 at camp 
and a couple in the house), I think theres maybe 9 stoves (anybody want a camp 
stove?), 2 lamps, one of which isn't Coleman.
1 Snapper RER (rear engine rider) circa 1965
1 Cub Cadet Model 70 circa 1964 - due for diesel engine upgrade
2x motorcycles
5x snowmobiles (probably should sell one but each has a purpose)
1 Cub Cadet Model 72 circa 1967 - that one is at camp and doesn't really count
the Farmall Super M circa 1952

oh and theres a lawn tractor at camp, Craftsman I think, 17hp, it does a pretty 
good job but is rather forgettable.

-Curt


Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 19:49:42 -0500
From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
Message-ID: a06240868cd8bb8b9657d@[192.168.0.108]
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Yeah its probably more money than its worth but it'll make sure you 
never have this problem again. Careful though, this might start you 
down the road of fixing things and the next thing you know you'll 
have a like-new mower...

-Curt

Or 632 coleman lanterns
273 Coleman stoves
4 elderly lawn tractors/mowers
3 schneemobiles
And an International M in a tree farm

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Curt Raymond]

Quite thin, like most paint. You could pour a small amount into a cup and let 
it harden for ten minutes.
You could also take some fabric or fiberglass (might be some fabric in the kit? 
Usually looks like a little hanky), paint some POR15 on the fabric and then 
hold that over the hole. A really swanky fix would involve a piece of 
fiberglass mat exactly the size of the bottom of the can...

-Curt

Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 17:01:36 -0400
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
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'Just washed out the can and left it in sun to dry.  Bottom seems to be 
fairly covered with zinc, 'cept small areas around the holes, which are a 
little bigger than I thought yesterday - guess one could call 'em big pin 
holes, 'stead of small pin holes, couple of 'em maybe twice the size (maybe 
a little more) of this period.  'Couple of 'em 'bout the size of apostrophe 
( ' ), maybe a little more.  Wonder if 2 or 3 coats of POR 15'll fill 'em. 
How thick is the material in the small can in the starter kit?

Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Dieselhead]

oh and theres a lawn tractor at camp, Craftsman I think, 17hp, it 
does a pretty good job but is rather forgettable.


-Curt


So, I exaggerated a bit.   All in envious good nature   lotsa good toys!

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[John Reames]

I've only got 1 Coleman, a circa 1974 dual mantle that has been converted to 
kero. I also have a somewhat new-ish (maybe 1980's?) 2 burner stove.

I wouldn't mind having a sportster tho.

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On Apr 10, 2013, at 21:16, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Last I counted there were like 31 or 32 lanterns (I might have forgot 2 at 
 camp and a couple in the house), I think theres maybe 9 stoves (anybody want 
 a camp stove?), 2 lamps, one of which isn't Coleman.
 1 Snapper RER (rear engine rider) circa 1965
 1 Cub Cadet Model 70 circa 1964 - due for diesel engine upgrade
 2x motorcycles
 5x snowmobiles (probably should sell one but each has a purpose)
 1 Cub Cadet Model 72 circa 1967 - that one is at camp and doesn't really count
 the Farmall Super M circa 1952
 
 oh and theres a lawn tractor at camp, Craftsman I think, 17hp, it does a 
 pretty good job but is rather forgettable.
 
 -Curt
 
 
 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 19:49:42 -0500
 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
 Message-ID: a06240868cd8bb8b9657d@[192.168.0.108]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed
 
 
 
 Yeah its probably more money than its worth but it'll make sure you 
 never have this problem again. Careful though, this might start you 
 down the road of fixing things and the next thing you know you'll 
 have a like-new mower...
 
 -Curt
 
 Or 632 coleman lanterns
 273 Coleman stoves
 4 elderly lawn tractors/mowers
 3 schneemobiles
 And an International M in a tree farm
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Dieselhead]

All I have is a Versatrailer.Well, I do have a junk knockoff 
stove.  But nothing else Coleman.



I've only got 1 Coleman, a circa 1974 dual mantle that has been 
converted to kero. I also have a somewhat new-ish (maybe 1980's?) 2 
burner stove.


I wouldn't mind having a sportster tho.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[WILTON]

I have some random, close-weave fiberglass; I'll use very small pieces on 
the holes as necessary.  Bottom is too uneven for piece on entire bottom.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com

To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can


Quite thin, like most paint. You could pour a small amount into a cup and 
let it harden for ten minutes.
You could also take some fabric or fiberglass (might be some fabric in the 
kit? Usually looks like a little hanky), paint some POR15 on the fabric 
and then hold that over the hole. A really swanky fix would involve a 
piece of fiberglass mat exactly the size of the bottom of the can...


-Curt

Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 17:01:36 -0400
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
Message-ID: 72EBE5980F264419A07C42B0B0F71D76@wiltonPC
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'Just washed out the can and left it in sun to dry.  Bottom seems to be
fairly covered with zinc, 'cept small areas around the holes, which are a
little bigger than I thought yesterday - guess one could call 'em big pin
holes, 'stead of small pin holes, couple of 'em maybe twice the size 
(maybe
a little more) of this period.  'Couple of 'em 'bout the size of 
apostrophe

( ' ), maybe a little more.  Wonder if 2 or 3 coats of POR 15'll fill 'em.
How thick is the material in the small can in the starter kit?

Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[clay]

That is my M.O.  Keep finding the stuff I already had in the parts area, then 
it goes missing, but ends up just where I left it.  In the mean time, the other 
stuff goes misplaces, and I am on the hunt for more AWOL parts

clay


On Apr 10, 2013, at 5:43 PM, WILTON wrote:

 Or can't find when I need it, go buy another one, then find the first one. ;)
 
 Wilt
 
 - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 8:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
 
 
 Sometimes I remember that I purchased some parts or supplies for a project, 
 but when I finally make time to put them to use, too often I can't find them!
 
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
 
 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 
 Well, the desk has gotten sorta cluttered, but the POR 15 was in a
 cabinet
 across the room.  'Even remembered where it was; opened door and voila!
 
 Wilton
 
 - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
 
 
 Isn't it amazing what we find when we clean our desk!  ;)
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
 
 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 
 Guess what I just found!!  I have right here on my desk a POR 15
 SUPER
 STARTER KIT - never opened; got it 8 or 9 years ago to try on a small
 place
 on underside of '81 300D I had then - sold the car before using the
 POR
 15.
 I have a small plastic jar of METAL READY, small plastic jar of
 MARINE
 CLEAN
 and a small can of RUST PREVENTIVE PAINT.
 
 Wilton
 
 - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 7:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
 
 
 Clean loose scale when dry.  Paint the inside
 with POR 15.   After dry, recoat if necessary,
 but for pinholes, one coat should do.  Then paint
 with galvanized paint
 
 You may want to paint the underside too.
 
 
 OK, here's another chance for y'all (Southern for youse guys ;))
 to
 
 excel.
 
 We have an antique, galvanized steel watering can almost identical
 to
 the
 one shown in the following link:
 
 http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=antique+galvanized+watering+canid=2C3B1E48FDA1402B82F35E24BFA2BAA0194CEFBBFORM=IQFRBA#
 
 SWMBO's mother had it sitting around her yard MANY years (I remember
 seeing
 it there sixty years ago - 'thought it was old then).  Son # 1 shot
 the
 side of it with a B B more than 50 years ago, so it still has a
 little
 B B
 ding on the side that has not been a problem.  SWMBO's been using it
 around
 the yard for about 43 years.  Well, I was sitting out on the side
 terrace a
 little while ago enjoying the sunny, 82° afternoon, picked up the
 watering
 can and held it up to look at the bottom of it and noticed 3 or 4
 small
 holes in the bottom. Finally, here's the question - chance for y'all
 to
 excel - how can I clean the inside, bottom of it well enough and
 then,
 
 maybe, pour in some type of epoxy, or goopy material which could
 ooze
 out
 through the little holes and seal the can so we can keep using it
 for
 another 50 years?  Suggestions, tips?
 
 TIA
 
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[clay]

instructions call for putting an initial coating of POR, then soak the patch 
material (fiberglass works) and using the brush, mate it to the lower coat.  
Give it a few minutes to set up/tack and paint more layers.  Paint over it when 
done

clay



On Apr 10, 2013, at 6:19 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

 Quite thin, like most paint. You could pour a small amount into a cup and let 
 it harden for ten minutes.
 You could also take some fabric or fiberglass (might be some fabric in the 
 kit? Usually looks like a little hanky), paint some POR15 on the fabric and 
 then hold that over the hole. A really swanky fix would involve a piece of 
 fiberglass mat exactly the size of the bottom of the can...
 
 -Curt
 
 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 17:01:36 -0400
 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
 Message-ID: 72EBE5980F264419A07C42B0B0F71D76@wiltonPC
 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
reply-type=response
 
 'Just washed out the can and left it in sun to dry.  Bottom seems to be 
 fairly covered with zinc, 'cept small areas around the holes, which are a 
 little bigger than I thought yesterday - guess one could call 'em big pin 
 holes, 'stead of small pin holes, couple of 'em maybe twice the size (maybe 
 a little more) of this period.  'Couple of 'em 'bout the size of apostrophe 
 ( ' ), maybe a little more.  Wonder if 2 or 3 coats of POR 15'll fill 'em. 
 How thick is the material in the small can in the starter kit?
 
 Wilton
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Dieselhead]

No. dot my collection.  I was just teasing/admiring Curt for his 
restoration and collection of Coleman products, schnee (snow) 
mobiles, lawn tractors, tractor and assorted other stuff.


Yes, I resemble that.  Unlike Curt, most of my stuff is still junk. 
I don't have an M, but I have something else...




Dieselhead wrote:
 - - - Or 632 coleman lanterns
273 Coleman stoves
4 elderly lawn tractors/mowers
3 schneemobiles
And an International M in a tree farm

Is this a count of the things you have restored, or things you plan 
to restore? For me, the original intent was to restore or repair 
things and continue to use them, but the fact is that I have a full 
shelf of (and more than a few in the yard)  items that need a little 
TLC (translation - they don't work, and most people would throw them 
away). Oh well, I may as well own up and acknowledge that other 
people did throw them away before I claimed them as mine. I suspect 
this may be an OCD - type of behaviour, but I rationalize it by 
maintaining that I am doing my part to reuse, recycle, restore and 
be green. It borders on taking pride in living off the discards of 
others. Anybody else have this tendency? 
P.S. What is a schneemobile


Jerry
82 240D


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Rick Knoble]

On Apr 10, 2013, at 10:22 PM, Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com wrote:

 Anybody else have this tendency?  


Yes. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Jim Cathey]

It borders on taking pride in living off the discards of others.


How about living _well_ off the discards of others?

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[OK Don]

Do you still have the Coleman iron?


On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Last I counted there were like 31 or 32 lanterns (I might have forgot 2 at
 camp and a couple in the house), I think theres maybe 9 stoves (anybody
 want a camp stove?), 2 lamps, one of which isn't Coleman.
 1 Snapper RER (rear engine rider) circa 1965
 1 Cub Cadet Model 70 circa 1964 - due for diesel engine upgrade
 2x motorcycles
 5x snowmobiles (probably should sell one but each has a purpose)
 1 Cub Cadet Model 72 circa 1967 - that one is at camp and doesn't really
 count
 the Farmall Super M circa 1952

 oh and theres a lawn tractor at camp, Craftsman I think, 17hp, it does a
 pretty good job but is rather forgettable.

 -Curt


 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 19:49:42 -0500
 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
 Message-ID: a06240868cd8bb8b9657d@[192.168.0.108]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed

 
 
 Yeah its probably more money than its worth but it'll make sure you
 never have this problem again. Careful though, this might start you
 down the road of fixing things and the next thing you know you'll
 have a like-new mower...
 
 -Curt

 Or 632 coleman lanterns
 273 Coleman stoves
 4 elderly lawn tractors/mowers
 3 schneemobiles
 And an International M in a tree farm

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[OK Don]

I think it's one of the common traits of this group -- to one degree or
another.


On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:07 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:

 It borders on taking pride in living off the discards of others.


 How about living _well_ off the discards of others?

 -- Jim




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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Dieselhead]

Dieselhead wrote:
 - - - Or 632 coleman lanterns
273 Coleman stoves
4 elderly lawn tractors/mowers
3 schneemobiles
And an International M in a tree farm

Is this a count of the things you have restored, or things you plan 
to restore? For me, the original intent was to restore or repair 
things and continue to use them, but the fact is that I have a full 
shelf of (and more than a few in the yard)  items that need a little 
TLC (translation - they don't work, and most people would throw them 
away). Oh well, I may as well own up and acknowledge that other 
people did throw them away before I claimed them as mine. I suspect 
this may be an OCD - type of behaviour, but I rationalize it by 
maintaining that I am doing my part to reuse, recycle, restore and 
be green. It borders on taking pride in living off the discards of 
others. Anybody else have this tendency? 
P.S. What is a schneemobile


Jerry
82 240D



It was beginning to sound like the 12 day of (we can't mention any 
more)mas.  So I added the in a tree farm to the last item with the 
number 1.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[WILTON]

The can I was trying to show is the first one on the upper left of the 
group; 'didn't know I was linking the entire group.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com

To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 6:44 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can


OK, here's another chance for y'all (Southern for youse guys ;)) to excel.

We have an antique, galvanized steel watering can almost identical to the 
one shown in the following link:


http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=antique+galvanized+watering+canid=2C3B1E48FDA1402B82F35E24BFA2BAA0194CEFBBFORM=IQFRBA#

SWMBO's mother had it sitting around her yard MANY years (I remember seeing 
it there sixty years ago - 'thought it was old then).  Son # 1 shot the side 
of it with a B B more than 50 years ago, so it still has a little B B ding 
on the side that has not been a problem.  SWMBO's been using it around the 
yard for about 43 years.  Well, I was sitting out on the side terrace a 
little while ago enjoying the sunny, 82° afternoon, picked up the watering 
can and held it up to look at the bottom of it and noticed 3 or 4 small 
holes in the bottom.  Finally, here's the question - chance for y'all to 
excel - how can I clean the inside, bottom of it well enough and then, 
maybe, pour in some type of epoxy, or goopy material which could ooze out 
through the little holes and seal the can so we can keep using it for 
another 50 years?  Suggestions, tips?


TIA

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Mitch Haley]

I'd probably just pack some duct mastic in there, but that's because I have 7/8 
of a tub left over from my HVAC work last year.


Otherwise, I'd buy some epoxy gas tank putty, give the can a once-over with 
Scotchbrite or steel wool, and seal the inside of the can with that.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Dieselhead]

Clean loose scale when dry.  Paint the inside 
with POR 15.   After dry, recoat if necessary, 
but for pinholes, one coat should do.  Then paint 
with galvanized paint


You may want to paint the underside too.



 OK, here's another chance for y'all (Southern for youse guys ;)) to excel.

We have an antique, galvanized steel watering 
can almost identical to the one shown in the 
following link:


http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=antique+galvanized+watering+canid=2C3B1E48FDA1402B82F35E24BFA2BAA0194CEFBBFORM=IQFRBA#

SWMBO's mother had it sitting around her yard 
MANY years (I remember seeing it there sixty 
years ago - 'thought it was old then).  Son # 1 
shot the side of it with a B B more than 50 
years ago, so it still has a little B B ding on 
the side that has not been a problem.  SWMBO's 
been using it around the yard for about 43 
years.  Well, I was sitting out on the side 
terrace a little while ago enjoying the sunny, 
82° afternoon, picked up the watering can and 
held it up to look at the bottom of it and 
noticed 3 or 4 small holes in the bottom. 
Finally, here's the question - chance for y'all 
to excel - how can I clean the inside, bottom of 
it well enough and then, maybe, pour in some 
type of epoxy, or goopy material which could 
ooze out through the little holes and seal the 
can so we can keep using it for another 50 
years?  Suggestions, tips?


TIA

Wilton 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[OK Don]

I heard stories (can't verify) that motorcycle guys whould dump a bunch of
loose nits and bolts into an old fuel tank, throw the whole thing in the
back of a car and drive around for a month or two to knock all the rust and
scale loose. Then dump the hardware out, rinse with water, let dry, then
use POR 15 or one of the gas tank sealants to patch the pin holes.
I'd think this would work for a watering can just as :-)
YMMV.


On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 Clean loose scale when dry.  Paint the inside with POR 15.   After dry,
 recoat if necessary, but for pinholes, one coat should do.  Then paint with
 galvanized paint

 You may want to paint the underside too.



   OK, here's another chance for y'all (Southern for youse guys ;)) to
 excel.

 We have an antique, galvanized steel watering can almost identical to the
 one shown in the following link:

 http://www.bing.com/images/**search?q=antique+galvanized+**
 watering+canid=**2C3B1E48FDA1402B82F35E24BFA2BA**A0194CEFBBFORM=IQFRBA#http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=antique+galvanized+watering+canid=2C3B1E48FDA1402B82F35E24BFA2BAA0194CEFBBFORM=IQFRBA#

 SWMBO's mother had it sitting around her yard MANY years (I remember
 seeing it there sixty years ago - 'thought it was old then).  Son # 1 shot
 the side of it with a B B more than 50 years ago, so it still has a little
 B B ding on the side that has not been a problem.  SWMBO's been using it
 around the yard for about 43 years.  Well, I was sitting out on the side
 terrace a little while ago enjoying the sunny, 82° afternoon, picked up the
 watering can and held it up to look at the bottom of it and noticed 3 or 4
 small holes in the bottom. Finally, here's the question - chance for y'all
 to excel - how can I clean the inside, bottom of it well enough and then,
 maybe, pour in some type of epoxy, or goopy material which could ooze out
 through the little holes and seal the can so we can keep using it for
 another 50 years?  Suggestions, tips?

 TIA

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[Curt Raymond]

Easy peasy.

Soak the bottom in vinegar or other mild acid (I use citric acid, #5 was $20 
from Amazon) for a couple nights. Put a handful of roofing nails inside and 
jangle 'em around to break loose any rust.
Solder or braze the holes shut. I remember Mr. Rogers doing that on one show.
Then coat the inside with POR15.
Perhaps instead of brazing use POR15 putty to fill the holes, sand to shape and 
then coat (inside and out) with POR15. Handily POR15 comes in silver.

-Curt

Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 18:44:53 -0400
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can
Message-ID: 3C6864ED784640FE8966E938FF9A0302@wiltonPC
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

OK, here's another chance for y'all (Southern for youse guys ;)) to excel.

We have an antique, galvanized steel watering can almost identical to the one 
shown in the following link:

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=antique+galvanized+watering+canid=2C3B1E48FDA1402B82F35E24BFA2BAA0194CEFBBFORM=IQFRBA#

SWMBO's mother had it sitting around her yard MANY years (I remember seeing it 
there sixty years ago - 'thought it was old then).  Son # 1 shot the side of it 
with a B B more than 50 years ago, so it still has a little B B ding on the 
side that has not been a problem.  SWMBO's been using it around the yard for 
about 43 years.  Well, I was sitting out on the side terrace a little while ago 
enjoying the sunny, 82? afternoon, picked up the watering can and held it up to 
look at the bottom of it and noticed 3 or 4 small holes in the bottom.  
Finally, here's the question - chance for y'all to excel - how can I clean the 
inside, bottom of it well enough and then, maybe, pour in some type of epoxy, 
or goopy material which could ooze out through the little holes and seal the 
can so we can keep using it for another 50 years?  Suggestions, tips? 

TIA

Wilton   

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Leaking watering can

[G Mann]

I have one. Don't know how it might work in your case so I'll just tell you
how I did it.

Same situation, same issues, rusty fuel tank, rototiller on the farm.
Removed the tank, sealed off the outlet with a fitting. Put masonry sand in
the tank [about 1/3 tank full] with dish soap and water [a little soap,
enough water to leave some slosh space in the tank.
Tied the tank to the wheel of the tractor and went plowing for a couple
hours.

Untied the tank, dumped the sand, soapy water, and rust out of the tank.
Removed the pipe plug and flushed the tank with clean water and let it
drain dry, then blew it out with compressed air.. Inside of the tank was
shiny fresh.. rust all gone.

Good luck... Tumbler wheel of some sort perhaps?

Grant...


On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com wrote:

 This post reminds me of a problem I have been stewing about. I have an old
 McLane (the actual brand is Montgomery-Ward) front-throw reel mower which
 has been sitting out in the back yard unused and in the weather because it
 became difficult to start last year. It looks like the one in this link,
 except you have to mentally erase all the paint and imagine how it would
 look after years of hard livin'.

 http://www.mclanemower.com/reel_mowers.htm

 In the process of cleaning  the carb and replacing the old diaphragm, I
 discovered that the gas tank is kinda rusty inside. Its really hard get any
 access inside there, but I did put in some loose hardware and shook it
 about with some gasoline, then poured out the rusty mixture. Lathered,
 rinsed, repeated several times. That was two months ago. (I suppose all the
 rust I removed has re-established itself due to this recent neglect.) I
 plan to shake it out again, but I am seeking advice in case someone has had
 some experience cleaning out a tank like this. Looking at the prices of POR
 15, I don't think this old machine justifies spending that much money.
 Would drying it out, then keeping a mixture of motor oil and gas keep the
 rust to a minimum? Of course, I realize the correct solution is to
 replace the tank, but that ain't gonna happen. The most I would spend would
 a couple of dollars. Any suggestions?

 Jerry
 82 240D


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