[MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-21 Thread Joy
I don't do round robin reading in my class. Never have. However, my new TA, who 
is wonderful in every other way, is disturbed by this. She feels so strongly 
about it that whenever she has had to fill in for me (IEP meetings and the 
like) she makes a point of doing this with my class. It is important for me to 
win her over without hitting her with a bunch of research and data, and I don't 
want to involve the school administration (like I said, she is WONDERFUL the 
BEST TA I've had yet). What would you suggest I do?

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Re: [MOSAIC] Round robin reading

2006-12-15 Thread Carol Carlson
Hi, all,
I'm turning to all you expert first grade teachers.
I had primary discussions yesterday with first grade teachers  
regarding round robin reading. Our state guidelines say, oral  
reading, but not round robin reading during guided reading. First  
grade teachers took issue with this, saying they needed to have oral  
reading to listen for decoding strategies.
I know there is a difference between round robin and oral reading.
My questions are:
1. Is oral reading necessary for emergent readers during guided  
reading ALL THE TIME?
2. I emphasized that by the time students are reading for  
comprehension, silent reading is encouraged. Is there a certain level  
whereby students should be reading independently rather than orally?
3. How do you balance the need to listen to students for decoding/ 
fluency with scaffolding silent independent reading?
Thanks for aly help


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Re: [MOSAIC] Round robin reading

2006-12-15 Thread Carlevarom
Hi,
I think listening to children read is crucial at all elementary  levels.  If 
more teachers listened to their children, checked  fluency and saw if they 
were using fix-up skills, then we would have  less students who need 
remediation. 
 I always thought that teachers should  be listening to children during 
guided reading and as they become more  proficient, release them to more silent 
reading.  The problem lies there;  teachers quit listening!  Also, most 
children 
enjoy reading out loud in  small groups, even intermediate grades.  They beg 
to read, if you have  them at the right level and in a supportive environment.  
You also do  not have to read every paragraph out loud.  You have them read 
the  paragraph where they found text evidence to something someone questioned 
and  then use it for discussion. Many times this is inferential. They like 
being like  everyone else.  So the answer I would give to the first grade is  
gradually release them, but keep listening, just make it purposeful for you and 
 
the reader. Everything in balance! 
Marsha
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Re: [MOSAIC] Round robin reading

2006-12-15 Thread Joy
I'd like to add that you should also schedule times for an individual reading 
conference, where you do running records. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi,
I think listening to children read is crucial at all elementary levels. If 
more teachers listened to their children, checked fluency and saw if they 
were using fix-up skills, then we would have less students who need 
remediation. 
I always thought that teachers should be listening to children during 
guided reading and as they become more proficient, release them to more silent 
reading. The problem lies there; teachers quit listening! Also, most children 
enjoy reading out loud in small groups, even intermediate grades. They beg 
to read, if you have them at the right level and in a supportive environment. 
You also do not have to read every paragraph out loud. You have them read 
the paragraph where they found text evidence to something someone questioned 
and then use it for discussion. Many times this is inferential. They like 
being like everyone else. So the answer I would give to the first grade is 
gradually release them, but keep listening, just make it purposeful for you and 
the reader. Everything in balance! 
Marsha
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Re: [MOSAIC] Round robin reading

2006-12-15 Thread Liz Hill
I just attended a workshop where the presenter said that you send the 
children off to a different places in the room to rad aloud, and you 
circulate to listen to them read. SHe also said that she has children read 
quietly and the child that she is listening to in a regular voice. Also she 
recommended not using the kidney table because that reflects the childs 
voice to the child next to him/her. I plan to try this after the break. It 
makes sense and my kids already like reading all over the floor in their own 
special place, so I figure circulating shouldn't be a problem.
Oh, she did say the same independent readers, but that she stilll likes 
listening to them. She said she only takes a minute or two to listen to each 
child from the group.
Hope this helps. Liz
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> Hi, all,
> I'm turning to all you expert first grade teachers.
> I had primary discussions yesterday with first grade teachers
> regarding round robin reading. Our state guidelines say, oral
> reading, but not round robin reading during guided reading. First
> grade teachers took issue with this, saying they needed to have oral
> reading to listen for decoding strategies.
> I know there is a difference between round robin and oral reading.
> My questions are:
> 1. Is oral reading necessary for emergent readers during guided
> reading ALL THE TIME?
> 2. I emphasized that by the time students are reading for
> comprehension, silent reading is encouraged. Is there a certain level
> whereby students should be reading independently rather than orally?
> 3. How do you balance the need to listen to students for decoding/
> fluency with scaffolding silent independent reading?
> Thanks for aly help
>
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Re: [MOSAIC] Round robin reading

2006-12-16 Thread H Weise
I recommend the Heinmann book - Good-bye Round Robin -25 Effective Oral
Reading Strategies  -by Michael Optiz and Timothy Rasinski.  It is short and
useful as a reference.  I  dip into it as a  reminder/refresher. - Holly W.

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Re: [MOSAIC] Round robin reading

2006-12-17 Thread Joy
Something else I learned from teaching second grade, and from annectdotes from 
the first grade teachers at my school, is that children enjoy Readers Theatre. 
Especially if you have the children practice in small groups first, then 
present the play to the rest of the class. I think Steck-Vaughn has some nice 
RT books that have varrying leveled parts.


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Re: [MOSAIC] Round robin reading

2006-12-17 Thread Carlevarom
I just did "The Christmas Carol" as a readers theater with 5th  graders and 
observed that this was an excellent text for practicing  visualization.  Since 
the action and visual images were done by the  narrator, they were able to 
easily know what to pay attention to and watch the  story unfold in their 
minds. 
Marsha
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Re: [MOSAIC] Round robin reading

2006-12-17 Thread Renee
I dislike kidney tables for a different reason:  they make the teacher  
the center of attention.

Anyway, when I was teaching in a multiage primary classroom, I had  
small groups of children read aloud at a round table. They were all  
reading different books. I walked around the table and listened to each  
one. Once they got used to this process, it didn't seem to bother them  
that everyone was reading something different. They just focused on  
their own reading. It worked very well.

Renee

On Dec 15, 2006, at 3:07 PM, Liz Hill wrote:

> I just attended a workshop where the presenter said that you send the
> children off to a different places in the room to rad aloud, and you
> circulate to listen to them read. SHe also said that she has children  
> read
> quietly and the child that she is listening to in a regular voice.  
> Also she
> recommended not using the kidney table because that reflects the childs
> voice to the child next to him/her. I plan to try this after the  
> break. It
> makes sense and my kids already like reading all over the floor in  
> their own
> special place, so I figure circulating shouldn't be a problem.
> Oh, she did say the same independent readers, but that she stilll likes
> listening to them. She said she only takes a minute or two to listen  
> to each
> child from the group.
> Hope this helps. Liz
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> From: "Carol Carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Listserv"
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> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Round robin reading
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>> Hi, all,
>> I'm turning to all you expert first grade teachers.
>> I had primary discussions yesterday with first grade teachers
>> regarding round robin reading. Our state guidelines say, oral
>> reading, but not round robin reading during guided reading. First
>> grade teachers took issue with this, saying they needed to have oral
>> reading to listen for decoding strategies.
>> I know there is a difference between round robin and oral reading.
>> My questions are:
>> 1. Is oral reading necessary for emergent readers during guided
>> reading ALL THE TIME?
>> 2. I emphasized that by the time students are reading for
>> comprehension, silent reading is encouraged. Is there a certain level
>> whereby students should be reading independently rather than orally?
>> 3. How do you balance the need to listen to students for decoding/
>> fluency with scaffolding silent independent reading?
>> Thanks for aly help
>>
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Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-21 Thread j browne
Joy,

I am sure you have considered this, but how about setting up a schedule for
partner reading.  That way, when your TA is filling in, the kids will
already be assigned a partner and will know what is expected of them during
their reading time.  The TA will be able to observe, assist, and monitor the
class, as well as see how well the kids do in this environment...everyone
will be on task!

Jean/NJ



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Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-21 Thread CNJPALMER
 
Joy
What I tell my students and colleagues is this...when you round robin read,  
many kids don't read all the text or even follow along. They look for what 
they  will be reading and prepare for that. I ask kids to read the whole text 
silently  because they read the whole text, not just the part they will read 
aloud.  The "Matthew Effect" described in research comes into play. The good 
readers  actually do follow along and read more while the strugglers and those 
that 
are  very shy read only what their part will be and therefore get less  
practice.  Also, poor readers tend to be interupted...by both us and other  
students...we mean well and hate to see them struggle so we tend to jump in and 
 help 
rather than allow the student to learn to solve their own problems. 
 
Having said all this, some kids DO comprehend better when reading orally.  
Beginning and some struggling readers actually need to read aloud...but I 
simply 
 have them mumble read the whole text before we do our guided reading  
lessons.
Jennifer
Maryland
 
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I don't  do round robin reading in my class. Never have. However, my new TA, 
who is  wonderful in every other way, is disturbed by this. She feels so 
strongly  about it that whenever she has had to fill in for me (IEP meetings 
and 
the  like) she makes a point of doing this with my class. It is important for 
me 
to  win her over without hitting her with a bunch of research and data, and I 
 don't want to involve the school administration (like I said, she is 
WONDERFUL  the BEST TA I've had yet). What would you suggest I  do?








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Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-21 Thread SooZQ55164
I usually tell my student teachers and colleagues that usually if they were  
to use Round Robin Reading that if one child is reading most times there are 
21  who aren't. It's not an efficient strategy. I remember counting paragraphs 
until  it was my turn and then daydreaming until it was my turn. For some kids 
who have  to read out loud, I have them use whisper phones so they can 
actually hear  themselves.
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-21 Thread ljackson
Give her some alternatives to round robin and stand your ground. Perhaps
give her No More Round Robin Reading.

Lori


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> I don't do round robin reading in my class. Never have. However, my new TA,
> who is wonderful in every other way, is disturbed by this. She feels so
> strongly about it that whenever she has had to fill in for me (IEP meetings
> and the like) she makes a point of doing this with my class. It is important
> for me to win her over without hitting her with a bunch of research and data,
> and I don't want to involve the school administration (like I said, she is
> WONDERFUL the BEST TA I've had yet). What would you suggest I do?
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Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-21 Thread Michelle TeGrootenhuis
On 7/21/07 11:47 AM, "Joy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I don't do round robin reading in my class. Never have. However, my new
TA, who is wonderful in every other way, is disturbed by this. She feels so
strongly about it that whenever she has had to fill in for me (IEP meetings
and the like) she makes a point of doing this with my class. It is important
for me to win her over without hitting her with a bunch of research and
data, and I don't want to involve the school administration (like I said,
she is WONDERFUL the BEST TA I've had yet). What would you suggest I do?
> 
-

You're probably not going to change her mind overnight, and the likelihood
of convincing her without sharing research is slim. So, how about having the
TA work on choral reading/reader's theater if she feels the need for oral
reading while you're occupied?

-Michelle TG



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Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-21 Thread Beverlee Paul
Good-bye Round Robin: 25 Effective Oral Reading Strategies by Michael F. 
Opitz and Timothy Rasinski (Paperback - Nov 3, 1998)
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Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-21 Thread Renee
I have not done round robin reading for about a million years and I  
can't imagine doing it as a general practice. However, I am going to go  
off on a different tangent here than everyone else did.

My first question is, "How often does your TA need to take your place?"  
Once a week? Once a month? If it's once a month or less, what's the big  
deal? I don't think an occasional bout of round robin reading is going  
to damage anyone for life. Some kids might like it. Others might  
consider it a break. :-)

Now, if it's more often, like once a week, then I can see the problem  
and am wondering what kind of directions you leave her with.  She works  
for you, after all, yes? Do you leave explicit instructions that she  
doesn't follow, or do you leave her general instructions that leave her  
room to do what she wants to do? If you leave her explicit directions  
to follow, and she doesn't do so over and over, then I would say first  
you talk to her, tell her you need her to do what you ask because YOU  
are the one who needs to take responsibility for the children's  
learning, and if she then continues to do what she wants, then you go  
to the principal. You don't even need to be detailed, just "My TA is  
not following my directions when I need to leave the classroom and it's  
causing confusion for my students." or some such thing.

And I like the idea of a workshop... maybe for all the TAs?
Renee


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> I don't do round robin reading in my class. Never have. However, my  
> new TA, who is wonderful in every other way, is disturbed by this. She  
> feels so strongly about it that whenever she has had to fill in for me  
> (IEP meetings and the like) she makes a point of doing this with my  
> class. It is important for me to win her over without hitting her with  
> a bunch of research and data, and I don't want to involve the school  
> administration (like I said, she is WONDERFUL the BEST TA I've had  
> yet). What would you suggest I do?
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Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-21 Thread Janelle
Have you tried simply asking her why she does round robin reading? Sometimes 
people, at least I think, do things because that is what they've seen others 
do, not because they have a good reason. This may open up a line of 
communication for you to enter a conversation with her. Good luck!
janelle
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>I don't do round robin reading in my class. Never have. However, my new TA, 
>who is wonderful in every other way, is disturbed by this. She feels so 
>strongly about it that whenever she has had to fill in for me (IEP meetings 
>and the like) she makes a point of doing this with my class. It is 
>important for me to win her over without hitting her with a bunch of 
>research and data, and I don't want to involve the school administration 
>(like I said, she is WONDERFUL the BEST TA I've had yet). What would you 
>suggest I do?
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Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-22 Thread Bonita DeAmicis
Question for the passionate round robin folks.  What about when students are in 
literacy groups and they CHOOSE to read together round-robin style?  Thoughts 
on this?

:)Bonita

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Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-22 Thread ljackson
Choice matters...

Lori


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> Question for the passionate round robin folks.  What about when students are
> in literacy groups and they CHOOSE to read together round-robin style?
> Thoughts on this?
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Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-22 Thread Patricia Kimathi
I wonder about this.  I have 2nd graders, they didn't learn it from the 
first grade teacher, she is next door.  where do they get it from?
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On Jul 22, 2007, at 5:04 PM, ljackson wrote:

>> What about when students are
>> in literacy groups and they CHOOSE to read together round-robin style?
>> Thoughts on this?
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Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-22 Thread ljackson
I just think it is a variation on buddy reading and that it is a very
different matter when it is child initiated.

:Lori


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> I wonder about this.  I have 2nd graders, they didn't learn it from the
> first grade teacher, she is next door.  where do they get it from?
> Pat K
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> and day, to make you like everybody else -- means to fight the hardest
> battle which any human being can fight, and never stop fighting."
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> On Jul 22, 2007, at 5:04 PM, ljackson wrote:
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>>> What about when students are
>>> in literacy groups and they CHOOSE to read together round-robin style?
>>> Thoughts on this?
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Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-22 Thread Joy
Would this be considered partner reading?

Bonita DeAmicis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Question for the passionate round 
robin folks. What about when students are in literacy groups and they CHOOSE to 
read together round-robin style? Thoughts on this?

:)Bonita

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Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-22 Thread ljackson
That was my thinking--it really seems an extension of this kind of spontaneous 
interact which seems a whole different ball 
game compared to old fashioned read aloud.

Lori

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Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-22 Thread Debbie Goodis
I think we really put this in perspective when we consider the alternative. 
What teacher is going to discourage the child from reading out loud in or to a 
group of peers. We wouldn't do that, right? So, this tells me to let it happen. 
It's such and incredible moment of interaction and community.
Debbie

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was my thinking--it really seems an extension of 
this kind of spontaneous interact which seems a whole different ball 
game compared to old fashioned read aloud.

Lori

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Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-22 Thread Renee

On Jul 22, 2007, at 5:48 PM, Patricia Kimathi wrote:

> I wonder about this.  I have 2nd graders, they didn't learn it from the
> first grade teacher, she is next door.  where do they get it from?
> Pat K

> On Jul 22, 2007, at 5:04 PM, ljackson wrote:
>
>>> What about when students are
>>> in literacy groups and they CHOOSE to read together round-robin 
>>> style?
>>> Thoughts on this?

I think they are just finding a way to share time.
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Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-22 Thread Beverlee Paul
I think I agree, and one of the reasons is that sometimes when adult groups 
get together, they choose to do the very same thing.  Sometimes it's part 
where the language is lifting, sometimes it's to clarify, sometimes it's to 
review for the group with some punch, sometimes they just like to hear each 
other's voices.  And they don't do it all the time.  And they resent it if 
someone else "makes" them do it.  But sometimes it's just fine. . . .


I just think it is a variation on buddy reading and that it is a very
different matter when it is child initiated.

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Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-23 Thread Bonita DeAmicis

 Debbie Goodis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> I think we really put this in perspective when we consider the alternative. 
> What teacher is going to discourage the child from reading out loud in or to 
> a group of peers. We wouldn't do that, right? So, this tells me to let it 
> happen. It's such and incredible moment of interaction and community.
> Debbie

Yes.  That is what I decided when it kept happening in my room when they had 
choice.   I think they liked being on the same page together reading aloud 
because they liked to gasp, laugh, and groan together.  I did have to set some 
ground rules down on the "help" part because some students would have a 
tendency to jump in quickly when a student had any trouble with a word. Still, 
they all continuously chose to read like this.  Only a few reading groups went 
for the silent read around or the select a page to meet up on.  Interestingly, 
when I asked the students about this choice, some said they liked hearing the 
words together, and some said the read around helped them to stay focused 
whereas reading alone did not. When they also chose their own groups, boy 
groups almost every time chose the read around--why do you think that is so?

:)Bonita


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Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-23 Thread Lisa Szyska
  She works for you, after all, yes? Do you leave
explicit instructions that she doesn't follow, or do
you leave her general instructions that leave her room
to do what she wants to do?

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This is my question as well.  None of my TA's (good,
bad or goofy) have been allowed to make this type of
instructional decision.  The last one who undermined
my lesson plans in such a way...well, she's not
working in my room any more.  (for other reasons as
well)  

Maybe your TA needs to learn some authentic ways to
get kids to read aloud during guided reading.  Things
like "Find a place you made a connection.  Get ready
to read that part aloud for us." Also, I sometimes
move from kid to kid at the reading table and ask them
to whisper read some of what they are reading to me if
I want a quick oral fluency check.  Round robin
reading is not very effective, and really I would be
surprised if it ever has been.  Why is she so
passionate about round robin reading?  Have you asked
her?

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Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-24 Thread Joy
I think the suggestions about training will help. One of our staff development 
days is going to be about reading strategies, so maybe that will help.
   
  I don't think she knows anything different, and doesn't understand the full 
implications. I don't think she is being insubordinate at all, just not up to 
speed on best practices. I just don't want to upset her, everyone around here 
is very sensitive, and in my exuberance I'm sometimes taken the wrong way. This 
is why I'm asking the question, so I don't snowplow anyone!


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Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-26 Thread Bill Roberts
There's a book GOODBYE ROUND ROBIN which gives 25 alternative ways to read. 
Should be able to find it AMAZON
Bill



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> Joy,
>
> I am sure you have considered this, but how about setting up a schedule 
> for
> partner reading.  That way, when your TA is filling in, the kids will
> already be assigned a partner and will know what is expected of them 
> during
> their reading time.  The TA will be able to observe, assist, and monitor 
> the
> class, as well as see how well the kids do in this environment...everyone
> will be on task!
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Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-27 Thread Waingort Jimenez, Elisa
Hi Bonita, Debbie and others,
I have a different perspective on what you describe below.  I'm curious as to 
what others 
think about this.  I have an expectation in my class that during independent 
reading 
time the children may read with one other person but no more.  I tell my kids 
that the 
reason for this is so they get time to read.  If there are more than two 
children on a 
book then some will dominate while others will not get the time reading that 
they 
need so they can read that challenging book that they have in their desk.  If 
the book 
being read is not a big book then there's the question of whether or not 
everyone can
see the pages.  Of course, this can be fixed if there are multiple copies of a 
book, which
isn't always the case.  The only way you get better at reading is by reading.  
Having said
that, I too have noticed that kids do want to get together in larger groups to 
share the books 
they're reading.  This is different and I will be making more time for this for 
those kids that 
want to do this.  But this is really about sharing and not about reading.  The 
purpose is social, 
I think.  Even though kids choose to get in groups to do round robin reading 
I'm not sure I 
would let this go on indefinitely or encourage it.  I think we have to be 
careful that in our haste 
to validate choice we are not sacrificing learning.  I'm thinking out loud here 
and I know I've 
probably left out something that would help clarify what I'm saying so that 
people don't jump 
all over my back but I'll leave it at this for now.

I also find this insteresting about the boy groups choosing to read aloud.  At 
first I was going
to say it's about the social nature of reading but I think it has more to do 
with boys and their
need to talk and move around rather than sitting still.  I have two daughters 
and one son.  My son
will be 3 at the end of October.  He is very different from my girls.  He 
purposely takes things
apart, destroys really, and moves around ALL the time.  When I read to him he 
has little
tolerance for books that take a long time to get to where they're going.  My 
daughters were 
not like that.  When they were little (they're now 19 and 15) they didn't rip 
things up at will 
or take things apart or challenge us.  You could actually walk with them down a 
grocery aisle 
without too many disruptions.  Now that I have a son I am paying closer 
attention to the boys 
in my class and some of the differences I notice.  Although I knew these in my 
head before I
wasn't feeling them in my heart.  I am not about accentuating the differences 
so that they 
become stereotypical but I am about being aware that there are differences and 
that
we need to study them so that we can know how best to help our students learn.  
One of my
students (grade 1) earlier this year said to me, "Señora Waingort, you only 
have girl books in
this class about fairies and stuff like that.  When are you going to get some 
boy books?"  That
made me stop and take notice.  I hadn't though about it too much before but now 
I started
seeing what he was saying everywhere.  BTW, I read or heard somewhere that 
there are just 
as many differences among boys (maybe more) than there are between boys and 
girls in terms 
of reading, behaviors, etc. 
Elisa Waingort
Calgary, Canada
PS I have heard other teachers talk about the boys in their class not wanting 
to read.  To be honest,
that was never my problem.  Finding good non fiction books for our classroom 
library was my challenge. 
I loved it! 

 Debbie Goodis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> I think we really put this in perspective when we consider the alternative. 
> What teacher is going to discourage the child from reading out loud in or to 
> a group of peers. We wouldn't do that, right? So, this tells me to let it 
> happen. It's such and incredible moment of interaction and community.
> Debbie

Yes.  That is what I decided when it kept happening in my room when they had 
choice.   I think they liked being on the same page together reading aloud 
because they liked to gasp, laugh, and groan together.  I did have to set some 
ground rules down on the "help" part because some students would have a 
tendency to jump in quickly when a student had any trouble with a word. Still, 
they all continuously chose to read like this.  Only a few reading groups went 
for the silent read around or the select a page to meet up on.  Interestingly, 
when I asked the students about this choice, some said they liked hearing the 
words together, and some said the read around helped them to stay focused 
whereas reading alone did not. When they also chose their own groups, boy 
groups almost every time chose the read around--why do you think that is so?

:)Bonita


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Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-27 Thread Waingort Jimenez, Elisa
Joy,
Please don't take this the wrong way but I just had to comment on what you say 
below.  I think
that teachers are way too "nice".  We try so hard not to hurt people's feelings 
or step on
people's toes and then we get barrelled over.  I truly believe that is part of 
what's happening
with NCLB, etc in the US.  I have discussions about this with my husband all 
the time.  He
claims I need to be a bit tougher and not let people walk all over me (parents, 
administrators,
other more willful colleagues, just to name a few).  I keep telling him that 
teachers are different 
and that we don't respond the same way that people do in his field of work.  At 
the same time 
I wish I were a little stronger with certain folks who obviously don't seem to 
have this problem.  
So, getting back to your issue.  There should be no question that she needs to 
follow what you 
tell her to do.  Getting the classroom assistant to be more up to date as far 
as certain practices 
are concerned is always a good idea but to me the bottom line is that she is 
your assistant and 
you are ultimately responsible for what happens in your classroom.  Know what I 
mean?
Elisa Waingort
Calgary, Canada

I just don't want to upset her, everyone around here is very sensitive, and in 
my exuberance I'm sometimes taken the wrong way. This is why I'm asking the 
question, so I don't snowplow anyone!


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Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-27 Thread Bonita DeAmicis
 The only way you get better at reading is by reading.  Having said
> that, I too have noticed that kids do want to get together in larger groups 
> to share the books 
> they're reading.  This is different and I will be making more time for this 
> for those kids that 
> want to do this.  But this is really about sharing and not about reading.  
> The purpose is social, 
> I think.  Even though kids choose to get in groups to do round robin reading 
> I'm not sure I 
> would let this go on indefinitely or encourage it.  I think we have to be 
> careful that in our haste 
> to validate choice we are not sacrificing learning. 

Great point here, Elisa. Perhaps some balance between the two would be best.  I 
will need to think more on this. My daughters and I have always loved reading 
together.  We did the entire Harry Potter Series aloud together, so I always 
assumed there is an argument for reading together if it is joyful and fun, not 
rote and boring.  I do think it is important to have students do as much 
reading as possible--so your argument speaks to me.

Thanks,
:)Bonita

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Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-27 Thread Debbie Goodis
Elisa,
Well, I guess what we are talking about is the way we would REDIRECT the 
students, knowing that they are showing me they have a need to do something 
social and figure out what other activity could satisfy that need. See, I think 
of it as the kids are showing me that they need to do this type of activity. If 
I felt like it was interfering with the real reading they also need, I would 
just maybe give them a way to do this outside the classroom, maybe through jump 
rope chants or hand clapping game. I could always use chart paper to introduce 
the chant and later bring the rhymes outside.
Debbie
Thanks for the food for thought.


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Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading/Janelle

2007-07-22 Thread Joy
Thanks for the suggestion. You're right, it might be that she doesn't know any 
other way. Maybe this, plus the other suggestions about modeling other 
techniques will help. It may also help for her to be in my class at the 
beginning of the year. She joined my team last May, right before the end of 
school, so she missed alot of the build up.
  

Janelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Have you tried simply asking her why she does round robin reading? Sometimes 
people, at least I think, do things because that is what they've seen others 
do, not because they have a good reason. This may open up a line of 
communication for you to enter a conversation with her. Good luck!
janelle
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Subject: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading


>I don't do round robin reading in my class. Never have. However, my new TA, 
>who is wonderful in every other way, is disturbed by this. She feels so 
>strongly about it that whenever she has had to fill in for me (IEP meetings 
>and the like) she makes a point of doing this with my class. It is 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Mosaic (Round Robin Reading)

2010-01-12 Thread Linda Buice
Hi Everyone,

It has been awhile since I posted, but in a recent conversation I had with a 
fellow teacher, she stated that many teachers in our building are going back to 
Round Robin reading and popcorn reading.  We are concerned and wondered if 
anyone had a good power point or video to show how this is not a good strategy 
to use.

Thanks,
Linda 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Mosaic (Round Robin Reading)

2010-01-12 Thread Karen MacKinnon

How about a book...

Goodbye Round Robin by Michael Opitz   2008 updated revision
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Hi Everyone,

It has been awhile since I posted, but in a recent conversation I had with 
a fellow teacher, she stated that many teachers in our building are going 
back to Round Robin reading and popcorn reading.  We are concerned and 
wondered if anyone had a good power point or video to show how this is not 
a good strategy to use.


Thanks,
Linda
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Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading/intervention/instruction

2007-07-23 Thread Olga Reynolds
In my 20 years of teaching I have seen buzzwords come
and go much likethe bees---
often times (mostly always) teachers are told you have
to do this or that and rarely , if ever, are teachers
given the support.  Or better yet, there are
interpretations by administrators, coaches ,and
things stray from the intended instructions.   And
teachers are left to do  their best usually based on
their own philosophy of teaching  (remember that
class).

Round Robin---for example.  If you asked me to
explain, I would not be able to give you a
definition!!!  I don't know what Round Robin reading
is.  I may be doing it and feel completely comfortable
with it!

In my "unrefined" opinion, the most important thing in
instruction is  the howwe must set the "learning"
environment such that a student feels cared about. 
Have you ever been to a spousal social event where
even though you are stranger the host and all make you
feel so comfortableand others where you really
feel unwelcomed???
I think that we must set the tone such that kids are
begging to "learn out of our   hands".  All these
strategies...ie buzzwords...are tools that teachers
should try and see if it works for them
"Research" based strategies must be looked at with
care because there is scant quality educational
research.  I can think of 4 that I place value
on---USC followed a cohert of students from preschool
to hs graduation; Stephan Krashen--the more students
read, the better they get; Jim Trelease, read to kids
and the Chicago Project.  These have been long term
projects/observations.  I should add Barbra Flores and
the work on writing she has done with very young kids.
 
Currently we have lots of "sail in by day and sail out
by night" type research and we need to use our
"passionate and learned"  professional experience to
sift out the junk and keep only the nuggets and then
use it in such a way that it benefits our kids.  

As I reflect on my 20 years of experience little has
changed in th gist of my personal way of
teachingdaily writing , 2-3 read alouds per day;
nurture curiosity and creativity; a garden (with an
array of containers); ---the how it was done will vary
greatly form teacher to teacher because we all bring
something different to the table---isn't this what MOT
is all about---and why aren't we applying it to the
way we teachMOT across the curruculum---really
shout be MOT across our lives or at least across our
teaching.  

I remember discovering MOT--oh my God!! oh my
gosh!!!Wow!!Wow!Wow!! there were people out there that
had the same thread of thinking as mine!!!It was so
validating--- MOT has really helped me refine my
philosophy of teaching because the core of  MOT is
something that has always been there for me.  I have
become a better teacher because  of all you!!!

Yet my students have laggedwhy??? whystudent
make up has changed, adminstrators have changed,
parental participation has changed, demographics have
changed I can't control these but I  know they
affect results.

This past year some of my students grew up to 3 years
and some grew very little---the ones with the daily
exhortations of please make sure your child reads,
does the homework are the ones that had the least
growth---my environment did not overcome their home
culture.  

Back to Round Robin---I probably do it!!!  Am I gonna
stop because someone says that it's bad for
kidswhoever says it probably did their way, with a
group of kids that is different than mine, different
text, different objectives, different parents,
different administrators etc.
So what do I do that comes close to resembling round
robin---determine my objective, decide on text, random
group of kids (max five) explain
objective--expressions, word id.  We all become
teachers--we each take a turn reading some and we
critique/evaluate each other-the good and the bad
(glow and grow)-I read also with mistakes so that I
can be critiqued!!!we all go back to do independent
reading to apply our grows and glows.

Anyway these are just my thoughts on how we activate
our prior knowledge and use our schema to synthesize
our passionate teaching!!!


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> Question for the passionate round robin folks. What
> about when students 
> are in literacy groups and they CHOOSE to read
> together round-robin style? Thoughts on this?
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