[mythtv-users] Mythtv 0.19 - xbox and mac osx frontends (anyone done this with svn?)
Just wondering if (when the big switch to 0.19 comes) if anyone has intructions on how to, or a running copy of the frontend for other platforms? Ie. MAC OSX and XBOX. The MAC OS X was easy to setup (just a quick .dmg download) but the XBOX was somewhat a pain in the ass. I have (unfortunately) had to reinstall my system and I am wonering if 0.19 will put my xbox frontend out of comission for awhile? thanks dave ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox
Phill Edwards wrote: Well, after spending 4 days on it, I've got the packages installed again, on a fresh install of Xebian. I had to update almost the complete system toget to this point, so I have no idea if X will work when I get home. I suspect not, but I've got fingers crossed again... If this doesn't work, anyone want to buy an Xbox? :) Don't despair. There's always xbmcmythtv on sourceforge. It's not as feature rich as mythfrontend but it doesn't involve installing any linux on the Xbox. All you need is Xbox Media Centre. I use it and it's fine if all you need it for is playback. My plan was to use it as a complete front end, and move the current FE/BE into a pure BE role, but that doesn't look like it's going to happen. I now, again, have a setup with working Myth, but non-working X. It appears that I cannot have both, which kind of defeats the purpose. At least I can play games on it. Tom ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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--- Tom Lichti wrote: Phill Edwards wrote: Well, after spending 4 days on it, I've got the packages installed again, on a fresh install of Xebian. I had to update almost the complete system toget to this point, so I have no idea if X will work when I get home. I suspect not, but I've got fingers crossed again... If this doesn't work, anyone want to buy an Xbox? :) Don't despair. There's always xbmcmythtv on sourceforge. It's not as feature rich as mythfrontend but it doesn't involve installing any linux on the Xbox. All you need is Xbox Media Centre. I use it and it's fine if all you need it for is playback. My plan was to use it as a complete front end, and move the current FE/BE into a pure BE role, but that doesn't look like it's going to happen. I now, again, have a setup with working Myth, but non-working X. It appears that I cannot have both, which kind of defeats the purpose. At least I can play games on it. I hope that I can provide a silver lining to this cloud. I have got my xBox running Gentoo with a 2.6 kernel and xOrg running as a stutter free mythfrontend. It works fine as long as I run an xterm, running top, in the background. This isn't a perfect work around, however, since the xterm is behind the mythfrontend window it's invisible. Note that my xBox has 128 MB RAM curtesy of www.xboxrepairguide.com and I also stuck a heatsink on the nVidia chip. I'm also running diskless except for a local FatX swap of 256MB. This means that I can still use the xBox for games by booting to the native BIOS instead of Cromwell. I have a SmartXX and am very impressed with their features. My only problem is that the xBox is a little noisy, simple to fix by replacing the fan, and I'm yet to get the xBox remote to work. Since I have a RF keyboard/mouse I'm very happy with the current setup although my wife would really like the remote to work. - |o | | _ /_ | |(_)(_)| |Ben Dash | |Ask free questions - http://bensqanda.blogspot.com | |My Blog -http://bensdailythoughts.blogspot.com | |Info - http://bensinformationstation.blogspot.com | |Workouts -http://bensworkouts.blogspot.com | - __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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Ben Dash wrote: I hope that I can provide a silver lining to this cloud. I have got my xBox running Gentoo with a 2.6 kernel and xOrg running as a stutter free mythfrontend. Any chance you could detail how you got to this point? I am running 2.4 kernel with xorg, and it doesn't appear to want to play nice. It works fine as long as I run an xterm, running top, in the background. This isn't a perfect work around, however, since the xterm is behind the mythfrontend window it's invisible. I saw that post originally, and although odd, if it works, that's the main thing. Note that my xBox has 128 MB RAM curtesy of www.xboxrepairguide.com and I also stuck a heatsink on the nVidia chip. I'm also running diskless except for a local FatX swap of 256MB. This means that I can still use the xBox for games by booting to the native BIOS instead of Cromwell. I have a SmartXX and am very impressed with their features. I wouldn't mind a memory upgrade, I'll have to check that out. You couldn't use the loopback filesystem, or chose not to? I am, and can still run games without any problem. My only problem is that the xBox is a little noisy, simple to fix by replacing the fan, and I'm yet to get the xBox remote to work. Since I have a RF keyboard/mouse I'm very happy with the current setup although my wife would really like the remote to work. That I would have to fix for it to be a 'seamless upgrade'... :) Tom ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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--- Tom Lichti wrote: Ben Dash wrote: I hope that I can provide a silver lining to this cloud. I have got my xBox running Gentoo with a 2.6 kernel and xOrg running as a stutter free mythfrontend. Any chance you could detail how you got to this point? I am running 2.4 kernel with xorg, and it doesn't appear to want to play nice. I didn't really have to do anything spectacluar beyond follow the various Gentoo howtos. The only tricky bit was learning how diskless Etherboot works and setting that up properly, and the kernel has to have the kbd-reset boot option specified otherwise the USB gets messed up due to IRQ 1 being stolen by something else. It works fine as long as I run an xterm, running top, in the background. This isn't a perfect work around, however, since the xterm is behind the mythfrontend window it's invisible. I saw that post originally, and although odd, if it works, that's the main thing. Note that my xBox has 128 MB RAM curtesy of www.xboxrepairguide.com and I also stuck a heatsink on the nVidia chip. I'm also running diskless except for a local FatX swap of 256MB. This means that I can still use the xBox for games by booting to the native BIOS instead of Cromwell. I have a SmartXX and am very impressed with their features. I wouldn't mind a memory upgrade, I'll have to check that out. You couldn't use the loopback filesystem, or chose not to? I am, and can still run games without any problem. I decided to go with diskless because I wanted minimal change to the local HDD. I may get a 2nd xBox frontend at some future point and by going Read Only diskless I can run multiple xBox frontends from the same filesystem image in parallel. It's not read only yet, but it will be eventually. My only problem is that the xBox is a little noisy, simple to fix by replacing the fan, and I'm yet to get the xBox remote to work. Since I have a RF keyboard/mouse I'm very happy with the current setup although my wife would really like the remote to work. That I would have to fix for it to be a 'seamless upgrade'... :) I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually :-) I'm going to write a detailed howto at some point. It's just a question of finding the time. I had a couple of weeks to get to the point which I'm at while my wife and 18 month old daughter were visiting relatives. Now that they are back home I'm sure that you can understand that time is in short supply, and rightly so :-) - |o | | _ /_ | |(_)(_)| |Ben Dash | |Ask free questions - http://bensqanda.blogspot.com | |My Blog -http://bensdailythoughts.blogspot.com | |Info - http://bensinformationstation.blogspot.com | |Workouts -http://bensworkouts.blogspot.com | - __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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and I'm yet to get the xBox remote to work. Since I have a RF keyboard/mouse I'm very happy with the current setup although my wife would really like the remote to work. That I would have to fix for it to be a 'seamless upgrade'... :) I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually :-) Guys, I have been meaning to post this in a dedicated thread, but what the heck. I was in Electronics Boutique/EBGames/Whatever it is called nowadays yesterday here in Brisbane, Australia and noticed that had a gamers pack for the Xbox, which included a new controller, DVD carry case, extension cable, remote control and IR sensor that connects to the controller port. This was on special for $AU35 down from $AU59, and whilst it wasn't the offical MS one, I thought it to be a good deal. I only wanted the remote and sensor but bought the whole package. I plugged the IR sensor in, booted the Xbox and was immediately able to use the control with MythTV, I was amazed at how easy it was. I am using the latest Xebian (1.04???) and the MythTv installer scripts from the MythTv-Xbox site. I need to update some of the key mappings as my pause key doesn't work, but that should be easy enough I assume. Thought this might help, Whytey -- -- I have GMail invites, if you want one, email me direct. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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Ben Dash wrote: Thanks for the ideas so far, lsusb gives: xbox ~ # lsusb Bus 002 Device 001: ID : Bus 001 Device 004: ID 04df:0020 Interlink Electronics Bus 001 Device 003: ID 045e:0284 Microsoft Corp. Xbox DVD Playback Kit Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0451:2046 Texas Instruments, Inc. TUSB2046 Hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID : You have the original Microsoft DVD kit, so your problem is not the same as mine. I'm afraid I can't help you further as I use the 2.4 kernel which uses a different driver for the remote. T: Bus=01 Lev=02 Prnt=02 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#= 3 Spd=12 MxCh= 0 D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=00(ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=045e ProdID=0284 Rev= 1.30 C:* #Ifs= 2 Cfg#= 1 Atr=80 MxPwr= 0mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=58(unk. ) Sub=42 Prot=00 Driver=lirc_xbox E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 8 Ivl=16ms I: If#= 1 Alt= 0 #EPs= 0 Cls=59(unk. ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=(none) [...] Any idea what's wrong? I'm not getting anything from irw, irrecord, or mode2. It seems that the lirc_xbox driver is handling the remote, but I have no idea why it's not working. Someone with the 2.6 kernel and a working remote might be able to help you. Sorry. -- Vladan Bato [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 10:47:56AM -0500, Tom Lichti wrote: Well, the packages installed correctly, but something went wrong with the video drivers. When I got home and checked it was constantly recycling the X server with a message about an unknown video device id, That's exactly what happened to me when I updated my system. Debian has decided to force us to upgrade from XFree86 to XOrg, so even if you don't ask for a new X installation you'll get one anyway unless you manually put a hold on a few packages. Checking the /var/log/X* messages for a line with (EE) in it will show you that the new Xserver can't load the old nForce video driver. I went to the nvidia site and downloaded a program that will build the correct module, but it requires a properly-configured kernel source that matches the running kernel. I'll try doing that as soon as I find documentation explaining how linux boots on the XBox (it's neither lilo nor grub) so I can (hopefully) get it all running on 2.6. Well, after spending 4 days on it, I've got the packages installed again, on a fresh install of Xebian. I had to update almost the complete system toget to this point, so I have no idea if X will work when I get home. I suspect not, but I've got fingers crossed again... If this doesn't work, anyone want to buy an Xbox? :) Tom ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox
Well, after spending 4 days on it, I've got the packages installed again, on a fresh install of Xebian. I had to update almost the complete system toget to this point, so I have no idea if X will work when I get home. I suspect not, but I've got fingers crossed again... If this doesn't work, anyone want to buy an Xbox? :) Don't despair. There's always xbmcmythtv on sourceforge. It's not as feature rich as mythfrontend but it doesn't involve installing any linux on the Xbox. All you need is Xbox Media Centre. I use it and it's fine if all you need it for is playback. Regards, Phill ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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Ben Dash wrote: If only I could get that lirc working! I don't know whether it's the same problem I had, but I thought I should mention it just in case. I don't have the original microsoft remote, but a cheap aftermarket one, which doesn't have a valid device ID. The result of this was, that it was picked up by the xpad driver (driver for joypads), instead of xir (driver for the xbox remote). I know that you use the 2.6 kernel and that the driver for the remote is different, but if the remote (the dongle actually) has an invalid device ID it might still get picked up by the wrong driver (or not at all). If you have the original microsoft DVD kit, then you can probably disregard this post. See post #39 in this thread for more information: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/151698 You can see a list of usb devices with $ cat /proc/bus/usb/devices The P: line contains the device id (Vendor and ProdID), while the I: line contains the kernel driver name (Driver). -- Vladan Bato [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox
Thanks for the ideas so far, lsusb gives: xbox ~ # lsusb Bus 002 Device 001: ID : Bus 001 Device 004: ID 04df:0020 Interlink Electronics Bus 001 Device 003: ID 045e:0284 Microsoft Corp. Xbox DVD Playback Kit Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0451:2046 Texas Instruments, Inc. TUSB2046 Hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID : You can see a list of usb devices with $ cat /proc/bus/usb/devices xbox ~ # cat /proc/bus/usb/devices T: Bus=02 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=12 MxCh= 2 B: Alloc= 0/900 us ( 0%), #Int= 0, #Iso= 0 D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor= ProdID= Rev= 2.06 S: Manufacturer=Linux 2.6.12.5-xbox ohci_hcd S: Product=OHCI Host Controller S: SerialNumber=:00:03.0 C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=e0 MxPwr= 0mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 2 Ivl=255ms T: Bus=01 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=12 MxCh= 4 B: Alloc= 25/900 us ( 3%), #Int= 3, #Iso= 0 D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor= ProdID= Rev= 2.06 S: Manufacturer=Linux 2.6.12.5-xbox ohci_hcd S: Product=OHCI Host Controller S: SerialNumber=:00:02.0 C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=e0 MxPwr= 0mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 2 Ivl=255ms T: Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#= 2 Spd=12 MxCh= 4 D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=0451 ProdID=2046 Rev= 1.25 C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=e0 MxPwr= 0mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 1 Ivl=255ms T: Bus=01 Lev=02 Prnt=02 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#= 3 Spd=12 MxCh= 0 D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=00(ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=045e ProdID=0284 Rev= 1.30 C:* #Ifs= 2 Cfg#= 1 Atr=80 MxPwr= 0mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=58(unk. ) Sub=42 Prot=00 Driver=lirc_xbox E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 8 Ivl=16ms I: If#= 1 Alt= 0 #EPs= 0 Cls=59(unk. ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=(none) T: Bus=01 Lev=02 Prnt=02 Port=01 Cnt=02 Dev#= 4 Spd=1.5 MxCh= 0 D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=00(ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=04df ProdID=0020 Rev= 3.00 S: Manufacturer=Link S: Product=keybd C:* #Ifs= 2 Cfg#= 1 Atr=a0 MxPwr=100mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=03(HID ) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=usbhid E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 8 Ivl=10ms I: If#= 1 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=03(HID ) Sub=01 Prot=02 Driver=usbhid E: Ad=82(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 4 Ivl=10ms Any idea what's wrong? I'm not getting anything from irw, irrecord, or mode2. Thanks so far! __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox
Tom Lichti wrote: George Nassas wrote: On 2-Nov-05, at 3:31 PM, Tom Lichti wrote: but am I right in assuming that mythtv is just a container for all the other myth packages? i.e. if I have all the other packages installed, I don't need mythtv? Yes, that's right. dpkg -L says without it you'll be missing the following files, nothing you can't live without: Excellent. Crossed fingers! Of course, by the time I get this working, SVN will have another protocol change and I'll have to do it all over again... :) Tom Well, the packages installed correctly, but something went wrong with the video drivers. When I got home and checked it was constantly recycling the X server with a message about an unknown video device id, and trying agpgart with an unsupported option. I don't recall changing anything to do with X, so I don't understand why this started happening, but it was obviously something I did yesterday that caused it because it was fine in the morning. At this point I tried the Fedora Core 4 install that was posted here a few weeks ago but that did nothing, although I may not have done it right, the directions are very vague. I may try again with a fresh Xebian install and see what happens. One step forward, two giant steps back... Tom ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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are you sure the xbox is even detencting the usb dongle? whats the output of lsusb Vic Ben Dash wrote: I see below that you're using xir. Does that mean that you are using a 2.4 kernel and GentooX? I was under the impression that with a 2.6 kernel I should use xboxusb as my lirc driver. I have to admit that I'm not very sure which the driver should be as I have seen mention or xir, atiusb and xboxusb. Please let me know if you think that that is correct, Thanks! --- Paul Volkaerts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mine works. Here is what I get from some potentially useful commands ... xbox:~# ls -la /dev/lir* srw-rw-r-- 1 root lirc 0 Oct 31 20:08 /dev/lircd prw-rw-r-- 1 root lirc 0 Oct 31 20:08 /dev/lircm /dev/lirc: total 0 drw-rw-r-- 1 root lirc 0 Oct 31 20:08 . drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Jan 1 1970 .. crw-rw 1 root root 61, 0 Oct 31 20:08 0 xbox:~# xbox:~# xbox:~# xbox:~# xbox:~# mode2 This program is only intended for receivers supporting the pulse/space layer. Note that this is no error, but this program simply makes no sense for your receiver. xbox:~# xbox:~# xbox:~# lsmod | grep lirc lirc_xir1224 1 lirc_dev8160 1 [lirc_xir] xir 3192 0 [lirc_xir] xbox:~# -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Lichti Sent: 01 November 2005 15:42 To: Discussion about mythtv Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox Ben Dash wrote: Unfortunately, although I'm sure I'm close, the xBox DVD remote still isn't doing anything. irw just hangs and shows no keypresses and mode2 still claims that /dev/lirc0 doesn't exist: xbox ~ # ls -la /dev/lir* crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 61, 0 Nov 1 01:26 /dev/lirc0 srw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 Nov 1 01:26 /dev/lircd Any ideas? Could be a permissions problem on the lirc0 device. I forget exactly what machinations I had to go through to get it working for me, but I know it wasn't root:root. Maybe try mythtv:mythtv for ownership of the files. Tom ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users -- ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox
On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 10:47:56AM -0500, Tom Lichti wrote: Well, the packages installed correctly, but something went wrong with the video drivers. When I got home and checked it was constantly recycling the X server with a message about an unknown video device id, That's exactly what happened to me when I updated my system. Debian has decided to force us to upgrade from XFree86 to XOrg, so even if you don't ask for a new X installation you'll get one anyway unless you manually put a hold on a few packages. Checking the /var/log/X* messages for a line with (EE) in it will show you that the new Xserver can't load the old nForce video driver. I went to the nvidia site and downloaded a program that will build the correct module, but it requires a properly-configured kernel source that matches the running kernel. I'll try doing that as soon as I find documentation explaining how linux boots on the XBox (it's neither lilo nor grub) so I can (hopefully) get it all running on 2.6. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 10:47:56AM -0500, Tom Lichti wrote: Well, the packages installed correctly, but something went wrong with the video drivers. When I got home and checked it was constantly recycling the X server with a message about an unknown video device id, That's exactly what happened to me when I updated my system. Debian has decided to force us to upgrade from XFree86 to XOrg, so even if you don't ask for a new X installation you'll get one anyway unless you manually put a hold on a few packages. Checking the /var/log/X* messages for a line with (EE) in it will show you that the new Xserver can't load the old nForce video driver. Well, I tried to not let it upgrade any of the X stuff, but I must have missed something. I went to the nvidia site and downloaded a program that will build the correct module, but it requires a properly-configured kernel source that matches the running kernel. I'll try doing that as soon as I find documentation explaining how linux boots on the XBox (it's neither lilo nor grub) so I can (hopefully) get it all running on 2.6. I was going to try that, maybe I'll get adventurous tonight. Thanks Tom ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 09:49:30PM -0500, Tom Lichti wrote: Can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list please? I can't seem to get all dependencies met, specifically libqt3c102-mt. That package has caused me no end of grief. Debian (testing, I think) has decided to drop support for the XFree86 xserver and have transition packages in place to force people to switch to XOrg (ie: you ask for one server but get the other). As part of that forced upgrade, libqt3c102-mt has been replaced by libqt3-mt. The new libqt3-mt is not backwards compatible (according to the depends/provides list). Similarly, rather than creating an in-place upgrade for MythTV, the libqt3-mt version is a whole new package that conflicts with the libqt3c102-mt version, requiring you to uninstall MythTV before the upgrade and then reinstall afterwards. So far only the core MythTV packages (front, back, common, doc, database and web) are available, so after the upgrade you don't have mythvideo, mythdvd, etc. My back-end and mythweb server are working just fine, but the XBox doesn't have a video driver for XOrg and my desktop machine (Radeon card) runs everything else and handles the MythTV menus OK but locks the machine up solid if I try to watch any recordings. The backend machine can't run nuvexport as it gets into a loop waiting for mythtranscode to setup the fifos. I don't have any idea what that's all about. Well that kind of sucks. I guess my Xbox will just be for games then, since if it's not fully functional as a Myth frontend, then it's not useful at all. Darn it. Tom ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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On 2-Nov-05, at 12:08 PM, Tom Lichti wrote: Well that kind of sucks. I guess my Xbox will just be for games then, since if it's not fully functional as a Myth frontend, then it's not useful at all. I think this is only true if you upgrade your X. I'm sticking with the one that ships with Xebian and using the homegrown myth packages I posted the other day and everything is hunky dory. - George ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox
--- Tom Lichti wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 09:49:30PM -0500, Tom Lichti wrote: Can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list please? I can't seem to get all dependencies met, specifically libqt3c102-mt. That package has caused me no end of grief. Debian (testing, I think) has decided to drop support for the XFree86 xserver and have transition packages in place to force people to switch to XOrg (ie: you ask for one server but get the other). As part of that forced upgrade, libqt3c102-mt has been replaced by libqt3-mt. The new libqt3-mt is not backwards compatible (according to the depends/provides list). Similarly, rather than creating an in-place upgrade for MythTV, the libqt3-mt version is a whole new package that conflicts with the libqt3c102-mt version, requiring you to uninstall MythTV before the upgrade and then reinstall afterwards. So far only the core MythTV packages (front, back, common, doc, database and web) are available, so after the upgrade you don't have mythvideo, mythdvd, etc. My back-end and mythweb server are working just fine, but the XBox doesn't have a video driver for XOrg and my desktop machine (Radeon card) runs everything else and handles the MythTV menus OK but locks the machine up solid if I try to watch any recordings. The backend machine can't run nuvexport as it gets into a loop waiting for mythtranscode to setup the fifos. I don't have any idea what that's all about. Well that kind of sucks. I guess my Xbox will just be for games then, since if it's not fully functional as a Myth frontend, then it's not useful at all. Darn it. I'm using my xBox as a fully functional mythfrontend, except for the remote control which I can't seem to get working at the moment. It was fairly easy using Gentoo, although I had a near vertical learning curve to implement a diskless xBox mythfrontend where I leave the HDD untouched to ensure that I can still play native games. It's very early days, I just completed the project last night, but I don't expect any problems. My wife was out of town for the past couple of weeks and this was a surprise for her. A couple of days ago I had thought that I wouldn't be able to complete it but everything came together when I switched from a 2.4.31 to a 2.6.12.5 kernel. I have only slept an average of 4 hours per night for the past week and a half but it's finally done and I'm sure she'll be very happy with it. If only I could get that lirc working! - |o | | _ /_ | |(_)(_)| |Ben Dash | |Ask free questions - http://bensqanda.blogspot.com | |My Blog -http://bensdailythoughts.blogspot.com | |Info - http://bensinformationstation.blogspot.com | |Workouts -http://bensworkouts.blogspot.com | - __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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George Nassas wrote: On 2-Nov-05, at 12:08 PM, Tom Lichti wrote: Well that kind of sucks. I guess my Xbox will just be for games then, since if it's not fully functional as a Myth frontend, then it's not useful at all. I think this is only true if you upgrade your X. I'm sticking with the one that ships with Xebian and using the homegrown myth packages I posted the other day and everything is hunky dory. - George So you are using XFree, or xorg? I am using the Xebian setup that was posted a week or so ago by Dan Roberts (?) . That one is 2.4.13 kernel, with XFree86. I tried using your debs last night and ran into the qt-mt lib issue. Should I remove all the existing mythtv packages and start fresh, perhaps? Tom ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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On 11/2/05, Ben Dash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ I'm using my xBox as a fully functional mythfrontend, except for the remote control which I can't seem to get working at the moment. It was fairly easy using Gentoo, although I had a near vertical learning curve to implement a diskless xBox mythfrontend where I leave the HDD untouched to ensure that I can still play native games. It's very early days, I just completed the project last night, but I don't expect any problems. My wife was out of town for the past couple of weeks and this was a surprise for her. A couple of days ago I had thought that I wouldn't be able to complete it but everything came together when I switched from a 2.4.31 to a 2.6.12.5 kernel. I have only slept an average of 4 hours per night for the past week and a half but it's finally done and I'm sure she'll be very happy with it. If only I could get that lirc working! i had originally planned on using an xbox as my frontend and was going to pick one up used. however my brother got me one for Christmas last year knowing that i wanted to tinker with it. i immediately chipped it and installed a larger HD and played with a couple different dashboards and XBMC. and i haven't really played with it since. :) i keep telling my wife to win the lottery so i can tinker full time. :D i just currently rebuilt my FE/BE system and am retweaking it for ease of use and added functionality. unfortunetely i'm limited on time (as are we all) and i'm no Guru so everything takes a great deal of research before i can do anything right. so maybe by this time next year i'll be in a position to start playing with my xbox again. ;) i do have one of the original Xebian distros that came with my mod-chip, but i'm looking forward to trying out GentooX or Nassas Xebian. ;) ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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It was fairly easy using Gentoo, although I had a near vertical learning curve to implement a diskless xBox mythfrontend where I leave the HDD untouched to ensure that I can still play native games. By any chance are you interested in documenting this? This is exactly what I want to do as well. --cro ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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--- Andrew Close [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/2/05, Ben Dash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ I'm using my xBox as a fully functional mythfrontend, except for the remote control which I can't seem to get working at the moment. It was fairly easy using Gentoo, although I had a near vertical learning curve to implement a diskless xBox mythfrontend where I leave the HDD untouched to ensure that I can still play native games. It's very early days, I just completed the project last night, but I don't expect any problems. My wife was out of town for the past couple of weeks and this was a surprise for her. A couple of days ago I had thought that I wouldn't be able to complete it but everything came together when I switched from a 2.4.31 to a 2.6.12.5 kernel. I have only slept an average of 4 hours per night for the past week and a half but it's finally done and I'm sure she'll be very happy with it. If only I could get that lirc working! i had originally planned on using an xbox as my frontend and was going to pick one up used. however my brother got me one for Christmas last year knowing that i wanted to tinker with it. i immediately chipped it and installed a larger HD and played with a couple different dashboards and XBMC. and i haven't really played with it since. :) i keep telling my wife to win the lottery so i can tinker full time. :D i just currently rebuilt my FE/BE system and am retweaking it for ease of use and added functionality. unfortunetely i'm limited on time (as are we all) and i'm no Guru so everything takes a great deal of research before i can do anything right. so maybe by this time next year i'll be in a position to start playing with my xbox again. ;) i do have one of the original Xebian distros that came with my mod-chip, but i'm looking forward to trying out GentooX or Nassas Xebian. ;) I became confused with the GentooX versus Gentoo issue and decided to go with straight Gentoo for my xBox. No offence to Shallax but I really wanted to keep to the standard OS that all my other machines use. I am sure that life would have been easier had I gone with GentooX but I learned a lot by not doing so. __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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--- C. R. Oldham wrote: It was fairly easy using Gentoo, although I had a near vertical learning curve to implement a diskless xBox mythfrontend where I leave the HDD untouched to ensure that I can still play native games. By any chance are you interested in documenting this? This is exactly what I want to do as well. I plan to... once I catch up on my sleep :-) Hopefully I'll get lirc working by then also, it's so frustrating! - |o | | _ /_ | |(_)(_)| |Ben Dash | |Ask free questions - http://bensqanda.blogspot.com | |My Blog -http://bensdailythoughts.blogspot.com | |Info - http://bensinformationstation.blogspot.com | |Workouts -http://bensworkouts.blogspot.com | - __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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On 11/2/05, Ben Dash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Andrew Close [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/2/05, Ben Dash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ I'm using my xBox as a fully functional mythfrontend, except for the remote control which I can't seem to get working at the moment. It was fairly easy using Gentoo, although I had a near vertical learning curve to implement a diskless xBox mythfrontend where I leave the HDD untouched to ensure that I can still play native games. It's very early days, I just completed the project last night, but I don't expect any problems. My wife was out of town for the past couple of weeks and this was a surprise for her. A couple of days ago I had thought that I wouldn't be able to complete it but everything came together when I switched from a 2.4.31 to a 2.6.12.5 kernel. I have only slept an average of 4 hours per night for the past week and a half but it's finally done and I'm sure she'll be very happy with it. If only I could get that lirc working! i had originally planned on using an xbox as my frontend and was going to pick one up used. however my brother got me one for Christmas last year knowing that i wanted to tinker with it. i immediately chipped it and installed a larger HD and played with a couple different dashboards and XBMC. and i haven't really played with it since. :) i keep telling my wife to win the lottery so i can tinker full time. :D i just currently rebuilt my FE/BE system and am retweaking it for ease of use and added functionality. unfortunetely i'm limited on time (as are we all) and i'm no Guru so everything takes a great deal of research before i can do anything right. so maybe by this time next year i'll be in a position to start playing with my xbox again. ;) i do have one of the original Xebian distros that came with my mod-chip, but i'm looking forward to trying out GentooX or Nassas Xebian. ;) I became confused with the GentooX versus Gentoo issue and decided to go with straight Gentoo for my xBox. No offence to Shallax but I really wanted to keep to the standard OS that all my other machines use. I am sure that life would have been easier had I gone with GentooX but I learned a lot by not doing so. i'll have to look at the differences between them. my understanding was that GentooX was tailored a bit more for the xbox hardware and allowed for easier updating without accidentally introducing a package that would make your OS crap out. ie. Xorg over XFree86... ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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--- Andrew Close wrote: i'll have to look at the differences between them. my understanding was that GentooX was tailored a bit more for the xbox hardware and allowed for easier updating without accidentally introducing a package that would make your OS crap out. ie. Xorg over XFree86... I'm using xorg on my xBox no problem. - |o | | _ /_ | |(_)(_)| |Ben Dash | |Ask free questions - http://bensqanda.blogspot.com | |My Blog -http://bensdailythoughts.blogspot.com | |Info - http://bensinformationstation.blogspot.com | |Workouts -http://bensworkouts.blogspot.com | - __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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On 2-Nov-05, at 12:44 PM, Ben Dash wrote: I'm using xorg on my xBox no problem. With which video driver? nv or nvidia? I'm sticking with xfree because from a few of the other posters it sounds like you can't get the nvidea driver working with xorg. - George ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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--- George Nassas wrote: On 2-Nov-05, at 12:44 PM, Ben Dash wrote: I'm using xorg on my xBox no problem. With which video driver? nv or nvidia? I'm sticking with xfree because from a few of the other posters it sounds like you can't get the nvidea driver working with xorg. I believe it's nv, but I'd have to check to be sure... Does the nvidia driver have benefits over nv? __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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On 2-Nov-05, at 1:04 PM, Ben Dash wrote: Does the nvidia driver have benefits over nv? I believe the acceleration support is better. I just checked and I'm using nv too so never mind. Sorry, I'm also new to xbox linux and I guess I'm getting a bit mixed up as to what's running where. - George ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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On 2-Nov-05, at 12:36 PM, Tom Lichti wrote: So you are using XFree, or xorg? I am using the Xebian setup that was posted a week or so ago by Dan Roberts (?) . That one is 2.4.13 kernel, with XFree86. I tried using your debs last night and ran into the qt-mt lib issue. I'm running XFree, according to apt-show-versions it's xserver-xfree86/stable 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge. Also, I have libqt3c102-mt installed. On top of that I have those packages I posted the other day and it all seems to get along. When you say you ran into the issue, what happened? I recall having some trouble myself and taking a few tries to get everything to install. One thing I did was to purge mythtv-backend and mythtv-database. That removed the requirement for mysql-server which I purged. Looking over my aptitude log there were some other removals like lpr and firefox but I don't know if they were significant. At some point I managed to take out the last qt-mt dependancy and that cleared the way for the myth frontend and plugin packages. I hope this is helpful. In any case I guess the point is it can be done, you just have to bang away for a while. - George ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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George Nassas wrote: On 2-Nov-05, at 12:36 PM, Tom Lichti wrote: So you are using XFree, or xorg? I am using the Xebian setup that was posted a week or so ago by Dan Roberts (?) . That one is 2.4.13 kernel, with XFree86. I tried using your debs last night and ran into the qt-mt lib issue. I'm running XFree, according to apt-show-versions it's xserver-xfree86/stable 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge. Also, I have libqt3c102-mt installed. On top of that I have those packages I posted the other day and it all seems to get along. When you say you ran into the issue, what happened? I recall having some trouble myself and taking a few tries to get everything to install. One thing I did was to purge mythtv-backend and mythtv-database. That removed the requirement for mysql-server which I purged. Looking over my aptitude log there were some other removals like lpr and firefox but I don't know if they were significant. At some point I managed to take out the last qt-mt dependancy and that cleared the way for the myth frontend and plugin packages. I hope this is helpful. In any case I guess the point is it can be done, you just have to bang away for a while. I think I've got it. I removed all the old myth stuff, added libqt3c102-mt, and then the myth packages you uploaded. I can't get mythbackend to install (not that I need it, this is a frontend only) which also means the mythtv package won't install, but am I right in assuming that mythtv is just a container for all the other myth packages? i.e. if I have all the other packages installed, I don't need mythtv? If so, then I should be pretty much done! I won't know until I get home if it actually worked or not, but it looks good so far... :) Thanks! Tom ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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On 2-Nov-05, at 3:31 PM, Tom Lichti wrote: but am I right in assuming that mythtv is just a container for all the other myth packages? i.e. if I have all the other packages installed, I don't need mythtv? Yes, that's right. dpkg -L says without it you'll be missing the following files, nothing you can't live without: /usr/share/doc/mythtv/README /usr/share/doc/mythtv/README.Debian /usr/share/doc/mythtv/AUTHORS /usr/share/doc/mythtv/FAQ /usr/share/doc/mythtv/UPGRADING /usr/share/doc/mythtv/copyright /usr/share/doc/mythtv/keys.txt.gz /usr/share/doc/mythtv/changelog.Debian.gz - George ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox
George Nassas wrote: On 2-Nov-05, at 3:31 PM, Tom Lichti wrote: but am I right in assuming that mythtv is just a container for all the other myth packages? i.e. if I have all the other packages installed, I don't need mythtv? Yes, that's right. dpkg -L says without it you'll be missing the following files, nothing you can't live without: /usr/share/doc/mythtv/README /usr/share/doc/mythtv/README.Debian /usr/share/doc/mythtv/AUTHORS /usr/share/doc/mythtv/FAQ /usr/share/doc/mythtv/UPGRADING /usr/share/doc/mythtv/copyright /usr/share/doc/mythtv/keys.txt.gz /usr/share/doc/mythtv/changelog.Debian.gz Excellent. Crossed fingers! Of course, by the time I get this working, SVN will have another protocol change and I'll have to do it all over again... :) Tom ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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Ben Dash wrote: Unfortunately, although I'm sure I'm close, the xBox DVD remote still isn't doing anything. irw just hangs and shows no keypresses and mode2 still claims that /dev/lirc0 doesn't exist: xbox ~ # ls -la /dev/lir* crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 61, 0 Nov 1 01:26 /dev/lirc0 srw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 Nov 1 01:26 /dev/lircd Any ideas? Could be a permissions problem on the lirc0 device. I forget exactly what machinations I had to go through to get it working for me, but I know it wasn't root:root. Maybe try mythtv:mythtv for ownership of the files. Tom ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox
--- Tom Lichti wrote: Ben Dash wrote: xbox ~ # ls -la /dev/lir* crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 61, 0 Nov 1 01:26 /dev/lirc0 srw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 Nov 1 01:26 /dev/lircd Any ideas? Could be a permissions problem on the lirc0 device. I forget exactly what machinations I had to go through to get it working for me, but I know it wasn't root:root. Maybe try mythtv:mythtv for ownership of the files. Could anyone else please confirm what they have as owner and group for their /dev/lir* files? Since it's mode 666 I would think that I'd be okay but if have to admit that I've seen some strange problems to do with ownership, even mode 777, so this is certainly possible. Please let me know Thanks, Ben __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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Ben Dash wrote: --- Tom Lichti wrote: Ben Dash wrote: xbox ~ # ls -la /dev/lir* crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 61, 0 Nov 1 01:26 /dev/lirc0 srw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 Nov 1 01:26 /dev/lircd Any ideas? Could be a permissions problem on the lirc0 device. I forget exactly what machinations I had to go through to get it working for me, but I know it wasn't root:root. Maybe try mythtv:mythtv for ownership of the files. Could anyone else please confirm what they have as owner and group for their /dev/lir* files? Since it's mode 666 I would think that I'd be okay but if have to admit that I've seen some strange problems to do with ownership, even mode 777, so this is certainly possible. Please let me know Well, my xbox isn't up at the moment so I can't check that, but on the frontend that I had to build lirc for I have this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ls -la /dev/lirc* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 Oct 5 19:29 /dev/lirc - ttyS0 srw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 Nov 1 08:16 /dev/lircd prw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 5 19:29 /dev/lircm Obviously it's a serial port IR receiver. Tom ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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Ben Dash wrote: --- Tom Lichti wrote: Ben Dash wrote: xbox ~ # ls -la /dev/lir* crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 61, 0 Nov 1 01:26 /dev/lirc0 srw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 Nov 1 01:26 /dev/lircd Any ideas? Ben, check your lircrc file and see what command is being issued by the file. If it's irxevent, then you have to have irxevent running in daemon mode for it to pass the command to the running window. You should use mythtv instead of irxevent -- I had nothing but problems with the irxevent command. You can also run irw and press a few keys on the remote to make sure lirc is receiving the right ones. Hope it helps. Norm ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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--- Myth Lists wrote: You can also run irw and press a few keys on the remote to make sure lirc is receiving the right ones. I've been trying irw throughout the process. I get no output from pressing the remote buttons. If I look at /var/log/messages I can see the accepted new client on /dev/lircd message when I run irw. When I CTRL C out of irw I can see the removed client message. I don't see any keycodes while running irw though :-( Thanks for all the ideas so far! Please let me know if you have any more! Ben __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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Ben Dash wrote: --- Myth Lists wrote: You can also run irw and press a few keys on the remote to make sure lirc is receiving the right ones. I've been trying irw throughout the process. I get no output from pressing the remote buttons. If I look at /var/log/messages I can see the accepted new client on /dev/lircd message when I run irw. When I CTRL C out of irw I can see the removed client message. I don't see any keycodes while running irw though :-( Thanks for all the ideas so far! Please let me know if you have any more! Broken /etc/lircd.conf (or one that works, but not with your version of LIRC). Also, make sure you have an appropriate ~/.lircrc for any non-Myth programs. This won't affect irw, but it will affect things like xine or MPlayer. Note that most programs use ~/.lircrc, but Myth uses ~/.mythtv/lircrc --no dot before Myth's lircrc. Mike ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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Mine works. Here is what I get from some potentially useful commands ... xbox:~# ls -la /dev/lir* srw-rw-r-- 1 root lirc 0 Oct 31 20:08 /dev/lircd prw-rw-r-- 1 root lirc 0 Oct 31 20:08 /dev/lircm /dev/lirc: total 0 drw-rw-r-- 1 root lirc 0 Oct 31 20:08 . drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Jan 1 1970 .. crw-rw 1 root root 61, 0 Oct 31 20:08 0 xbox:~# xbox:~# xbox:~# xbox:~# xbox:~# mode2 This program is only intended for receivers supporting the pulse/space layer. Note that this is no error, but this program simply makes no sense for your receiver. xbox:~# xbox:~# xbox:~# lsmod | grep lirc lirc_xir1224 1 lirc_dev8160 1 [lirc_xir] xir 3192 0 [lirc_xir] xbox:~# -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Lichti Sent: 01 November 2005 15:42 To: Discussion about mythtv Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox Ben Dash wrote: Unfortunately, although I'm sure I'm close, the xBox DVD remote still isn't doing anything. irw just hangs and shows no keypresses and mode2 still claims that /dev/lirc0 doesn't exist: xbox ~ # ls -la /dev/lir* crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 61, 0 Nov 1 01:26 /dev/lirc0 srw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 Nov 1 01:26 /dev/lircd Any ideas? Could be a permissions problem on the lirc0 device. I forget exactly what machinations I had to go through to get it working for me, but I know it wasn't root:root. Maybe try mythtv:mythtv for ownership of the files. Tom ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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--- Michael T. Dean wrote: Ben Dash wrote: --- Myth Lists wrote: You can also run irw and press a few keys on the remote to make sure lirc is receiving the right ones. I've been trying irw throughout the process. I get no output from pressing the remote buttons. If I look at /var/log/messages I can see the accepted new client on /dev/lircd message when I run irw. When I CTRL C out of irw I can see the removed client message. I don't see any keycodes while running irw though :-( Thanks for all the ideas so far! Please let me know if you have any more! Broken /etc/lircd.conf (or one that works, but not with your version of LIRC). I downloaded a couple of different lircd.conf files for the xBox remote. Can you recommend where I should be getting it? Is it supposed to get installed at compile time? I currently have 3 different lircd.conf files; one I got from lirc's CVS, one which was installed at compile time, and one which I got from N0rm aka Myth Lists. Please let me know where I'm supposed to get it. Thanks! __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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I see below that you're using xir. Does that mean that you are using a 2.4 kernel and GentooX? I was under the impression that with a 2.6 kernel I should use xboxusb as my lirc driver. I have to admit that I'm not very sure which the driver should be as I have seen mention or xir, atiusb and xboxusb. Please let me know if you think that that is correct, Thanks! --- Paul Volkaerts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mine works. Here is what I get from some potentially useful commands ... xbox:~# ls -la /dev/lir* srw-rw-r-- 1 root lirc 0 Oct 31 20:08 /dev/lircd prw-rw-r-- 1 root lirc 0 Oct 31 20:08 /dev/lircm /dev/lirc: total 0 drw-rw-r-- 1 root lirc 0 Oct 31 20:08 . drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Jan 1 1970 .. crw-rw 1 root root 61, 0 Oct 31 20:08 0 xbox:~# xbox:~# xbox:~# xbox:~# xbox:~# mode2 This program is only intended for receivers supporting the pulse/space layer. Note that this is no error, but this program simply makes no sense for your receiver. xbox:~# xbox:~# xbox:~# lsmod | grep lirc lirc_xir1224 1 lirc_dev8160 1 [lirc_xir] xir 3192 0 [lirc_xir] xbox:~# -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Lichti Sent: 01 November 2005 15:42 To: Discussion about mythtv Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox Ben Dash wrote: Unfortunately, although I'm sure I'm close, the xBox DVD remote still isn't doing anything. irw just hangs and shows no keypresses and mode2 still claims that /dev/lirc0 doesn't exist: xbox ~ # ls -la /dev/lir* crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 61, 0 Nov 1 01:26 /dev/lirc0 srw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 Nov 1 01:26 /dev/lircd Any ideas? Could be a permissions problem on the lirc0 device. I forget exactly what machinations I had to go through to get it working for me, but I know it wasn't root:root. Maybe try mythtv:mythtv for ownership of the files. Tom ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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George Nassas wrote: On 30-Oct-05, at 9:16 PM, Norm wrote: Thanks! Downloaded -- sorry about the upload not working -- will need to check that... no probs. I forgot to write a few notes about the debs. First, they require libexif to be installed, the normal debian packages don't but somehow that option got configured into my build. Second, for a first install I found it best to create a local archive so that the dependancies get taken care of automatically. To do so add something like deb file:/path/to/debs ./ to /etc/sources.list and, in that directory, do a dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip Packages. Then aptitude update and install mythfrontend mythvideo and so on and you should be good to go. - George Can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list please? I can't seem to get all dependencies met, specifically libqt3c102-mt. Thanks! Tom ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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On 1-Nov-05, at 9:49 PM, Tom Lichti wrote: Can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list please? I can't seem to get all dependencies met, specifically libqt3c102-mt. Sure, deb http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ stable main non-free contrib deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free deb http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ testing main non-free contrib deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free deb http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib deb http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main Since I'm running a mixed system I use these settings in my preferences file. Basically they tell apt to prefer stable and drop down to testing and unstable as needed: Package: * Pin: release a=stable Pin-Priority: 600 Package: * Pin: release a=testing Pin-Priority: 550 Package: * Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 500 And, if you use as many sources as I do, you have to add this to your apt.conf: APT::Cache-Limit 141943904; However, the problem is probably not with your sources. IIRC Matt's main myth packages depend on libqt-mt but the plugins depend on libqt3c102-mt and those two packages are mutually incompatible. I think my debian control files are a bit out of date so everything I build depends on libqt-mt. - George ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 09:49:30PM -0500, Tom Lichti wrote: Can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list please? I can't seem to get all dependencies met, specifically libqt3c102-mt. That package has caused me no end of grief. Debian (testing, I think) has decided to drop support for the XFree86 xserver and have transition packages in place to force people to switch to XOrg (ie: you ask for one server but get the other). As part of that forced upgrade, libqt3c102-mt has been replaced by libqt3-mt. The new libqt3-mt is not backwards compatible (according to the depends/provides list). Similarly, rather than creating an in-place upgrade for MythTV, the libqt3-mt version is a whole new package that conflicts with the libqt3c102-mt version, requiring you to uninstall MythTV before the upgrade and then reinstall afterwards. So far only the core MythTV packages (front, back, common, doc, database and web) are available, so after the upgrade you don't have mythvideo, mythdvd, etc. My back-end and mythweb server are working just fine, but the XBox doesn't have a video driver for XOrg and my desktop machine (Radeon card) runs everything else and handles the MythTV menus OK but locks the machine up solid if I try to watch any recordings. The backend machine can't run nuvexport as it gets into a loop waiting for mythtranscode to setup the fifos. I don't have any idea what that's all about. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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no probs. I forgot to write a few notes about the debs. First, they require libexif to be installed, the normal debian packages don't but somehow that option got configured into my build. Second, for a first install I found it best to create a local archive so that the dependancies get taken care of automatically. To do so add something like deb file:/path/to/debs ./ to /etc/sources.list and, in that directory, do a dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip Packages. Then aptitude update and install mythfrontend mythvideo and so on and you should be good to go. - George Ok, got it installed and I can watch TV from my backend server. I don't seem to be getting any themes though. I have them installed both on the xbox and on the backend. When I go into the frontend setup, appearance, it doesn't allow me to select anything other then GANT, which is what the default setup was on my backend. I had to copy GANT over to the Xbox because it wasn't there. Thx NOrm ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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N0rm I'm just finishing off a gentoo mythfrontend xBox and am running into problems with lirc for the DVD remote. Unfortunately I didn't have any problem with themes in my setup, although I had a load of problems trying to get 2.4.31 kernel to work before throwing in the towel and going for a 2.6.12.5 kernel instead. If you manage to get your DVD remote working with lirc please could you tell me know what you did? If you need to know anything about my setup please let me know, Thanks, Ben --- Myth Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no probs. I forgot to write a few notes about the debs. First, they require libexif to be installed, the normal debian packages don't but somehow that option got configured into my build. Second, for a first install I found it best to create a local archive so that the dependancies get taken care of automatically. To do so add something like deb file:/path/to/debs ./ to /etc/sources.list and, in that directory, do a dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip Packages. Then aptitude update and install mythfrontend mythvideo and so on and you should be good to go. - George Ok, got it installed and I can watch TV from my backend server. I don't seem to be getting any themes though. I have them installed both on the xbox and on the backend. When I go into the frontend setup, appearance, it doesn't allow me to select anything other then GANT, which is what the default setup was on my backend. I had to copy GANT over to the Xbox because it wasn't there. Thx NOrm ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users - |o | | _ /_ | |(_)(_)| |Ben Dash | |Ask free questions - http://bensqanda.blogspot.com | |My Blog -http://bensdailythoughts.blogspot.com | |Info - http://bensinformationstation.blogspot.com | |Workouts -http://bensworkouts.blogspot.com | - __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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Ben Dash wrote: N0rm I'm just finishing off a gentoo mythfrontend xBox and am running into problems with lirc for the DVD remote. Unfortunately I didn't have any problem with themes in my setup, although I had a load of problems trying to get 2.4.31 kernel to work before throwing in the towel and going for a 2.6.12.5 kernel instead. If you manage to get your DVD remote working with lirc please could you tell me know what you did? If you need to know anything about my setup please let me know, Thanks, Ben Hey Ben -- take a look a the attached lircrc -- I simply put it in the /home/live/.mythtv directory and it worked. Because you are running a Gentoo, you might have to emerge lirc, which I assume you have done already and set up the lircd to startup at boot. Verify its running before you start the frontend. Norm # ~/.mythtv/lircrc # # MythTV native LIRC config file for # the Microsoft DVD remote # # By Dennis Cartier 2004/05/01 # # Amalgamated from Jarod Wilson's, # Amalgamated from Jeff Campbell's, # .lircrc, the mythtv.org docs, and # a few touches of my own. :) # # Up begin prog = mythtv button = UP repeat = 4 config = Up end # Down begin prog = mythtv button = DOWN repeat = 4 config = Down end # Fast forward (30 sec default) begin prog = mythtv button = RIGHT repeat = 4 config = Right end # Rewind (5 sec default) begin prog = mythtv button = LEFT repeat = 4 config = Left end # Skip forward (10 min default) begin prog = mythtv button = FORWARD repeat = 4 config = PgDown end # Skip backward (10 min default) begin prog = mythtv button = REVERSE repeat = 4 config = PgUp end # OK/Select begin prog = mythtv button = SELECT repeat = 4 config = Space end # Play begin prog = mythtv button = PLAY repeat = 4 config = Return end # Stop begin prog = mythtv button = STOP config = Esc end # Escape/Exit/Back begin prog = mythtv button = BACK repeat = 4 config = Esc end #~ # Power Off/Exit #~ begin #~ prog = mythtv #~ button = OFF #~ config = Esc #~ end #~ # Red means stop! #~ begin #~ prog = mythtv #~ button = RED #~ config = Esc #~ end # Pause begin prog = mythtv button = PAUSE repeat = 4 config = P end #~ # Mute - Xbox has no mixer !! :( #~ begin #~ prog = mythtv #~ button = #~ repeat = 4 #~ config = F9 #~ end #~ # Record #~ begin #~ prog = mythtv #~ button = RECORD #~ repeat = 4 #~ config = R #~ end #~ # Delete #~ begin #~ prog = mythtv #~ button = BLANK #~ repeat = 4 #~ config = D #~ end # OSD browse begin prog = mythtv button = MENU repeat = 4 config = O end # Bring up OSD info begin prog = mythtv button = INFO repeat = 4 config = I end # Bring up XV picture controls begin prog = mythtv button = TITLE repeat = 4 config = F end # Display EPG while in live TV, # View selected show while in EPG begin prog = mythtv button = DISPLAY repeat = 4 config = M end #~ # Scroll up #~ begin #~ prog = mythtv #~ button = VOL+ #~ repeat = 4 #~ config = Right #~ end #~ # Scroll down #~ begin #~ prog = mythtv #~ button = VOL- #~ repeat = 4 #~ config = Left #~ end #~ # Change display aspect ratio #~ begin #~ prog = mythtv #~ button = FULL #~ repeat = 4 #~ config = W #~ end #~ # Seek to previous commercial cut point #~ begin #~ prog = mythtv #~ button = YELLOW #~ repeat = 4 #~ config = Q #~ end #~ # Seek to next commercial cut point #~ begin #~ prog = mythtv #~ button = BLUE #~ repeat = 4 #~ config = Z #~ end # Numbers 0-9 begin prog = mythtv button = 0 repeat = 4 config = 0 end begin prog = mythtv button = 1 repeat = 4 config = 1 end begin prog = mythtv button = 2 repeat = 4 config = 2 end begin prog = mythtv button = 3 repeat = 4 config = 3 end begin prog = mythtv button = 4 repeat = 4 config = 4 end begin prog = mythtv button = 5 repeat = 4 config = 5 end begin prog = mythtv button = 6 repeat = 4 config = 6 end begin prog = mythtv button = 7 repeat = 4 config = 7 end begin prog = mythtv button = 8 repeat = 4 config = 8 end begin prog = mythtv button = 9 repeat = 4 config = 9 end ### MPlayer lirc setup # Show OSD begin prog = mplayer button = MENU repeat = 4 config = osd end # Pause playback begin prog = mplayer button = PAUSE repeat = 4 config = pause end # Skip ahead a minute if playing # If paused, resume playing begin prog = mplayer button = PLAY repeat = 4 config = seek +1 end # Stop playback and exit begin prog = mplayer button = STOP repeat = 4 config = quit end #~ # Mute #~ begin #~ prog = mplayer #~ button = MUTE #~ repeat = 4 #~ config = mute #~ end # Seek back 10 seconds begin prog = mplayer button = REVERSE repeat = 4 config = seek -10 end # Seek forward 30 seconds begin prog = mplayer button = FORWARD repeat = 4 config = seek +30 end # Quit begin prog = mplayer button = BACK repeat = 4 config = quit end # Seek forward 10 minutes begin prog = mplayer button = SKIP+ repeat = 4 config = seek +600 end # Seek backward 10 minutes begin prog = mplayer button = SKIP- repeat = 4 config = seek -600 end # Toggle full-screen begin prog = mplayer button = DISPLAY
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox
Thanks! I don't think my lirc is at the point where I can start configuring it for mythtv. I can't get it to recognise anything from the remote with the irw test app yet. I try the ~/.mythtv/lircrc file and let you know. I'm using the atiusb driver for lirc. I heard that this was supposed to work for the xBox remote, is that correct? Nothing looks immediately obviously bad in dmesg. Please let me know if you have any other ideas and what info you'd like me to post. Thanks, Ben --- Myth Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben Dash wrote: N0rm I'm just finishing off a gentoo mythfrontend xBox and am running into problems with lirc for the DVD remote. Unfortunately I didn't have any problem with themes in my setup, although I had a load of problems trying to get 2.4.31 kernel to work before throwing in the towel and going for a 2.6.12.5 kernel instead. If you manage to get your DVD remote working with lirc please could you tell me know what you did? If you need to know anything about my setup please let me know, Thanks, Ben Hey Ben -- take a look a the attached lircrc -- I simply put it in the /home/live/.mythtv directory and it worked. Because you are running a Gentoo, you might have to emerge lirc, which I assume you have done already and set up the lircd to startup at boot. Verify its running before you start the frontend. Norm # ~/.mythtv/lircrc # # MythTV native LIRC config file for # the Microsoft DVD remote # # By Dennis Cartier 2004/05/01 # # Amalgamated from Jarod Wilson's, # Amalgamated from Jeff Campbell's, # .lircrc, the mythtv.org docs, and # a few touches of my own. :) # # Up begin prog = mythtv button = UP repeat = 4 config = Up end # Down begin prog = mythtv button = DOWN repeat = 4 config = Down end # Fast forward (30 sec default) begin prog = mythtv button = RIGHT repeat = 4 config = Right end # Rewind (5 sec default) begin prog = mythtv button = LEFT repeat = 4 config = Left end # Skip forward (10 min default) begin prog = mythtv button = FORWARD repeat = 4 config = PgDown end # Skip backward (10 min default) begin prog = mythtv button = REVERSE repeat = 4 config = PgUp end # OK/Select begin prog = mythtv button = SELECT repeat = 4 config = Space end # Play begin prog = mythtv button = PLAY repeat = 4 config = Return end # Stop begin prog = mythtv button = STOP config = Esc end # Escape/Exit/Back begin prog = mythtv button = BACK repeat = 4 config = Esc end #~ # Power Off/Exit #~ begin #~ prog = mythtv #~ button = OFF #~ config = Esc #~ end #~ # Red means stop! #~ begin #~ prog = mythtv #~ button = RED #~ config = Esc #~ end # Pause begin prog = mythtv button = PAUSE repeat = 4 config = P end #~ # Mute - Xbox has no mixer !! :( #~ begin #~ prog = mythtv #~ button = #~ repeat = 4 #~ config = F9 #~ end #~ # Record #~ begin #~ prog = mythtv #~ button = RECORD #~ repeat = 4 #~ config = R #~ end #~ # Delete #~ begin #~ prog = mythtv #~ button = BLANK #~ repeat = 4 #~ config = D #~ end # OSD browse begin prog = mythtv button = MENU repeat = 4 config = O end # Bring up OSD info begin prog = mythtv button = INFO repeat = 4 config = I end # Bring up XV picture controls begin prog = mythtv button = TITLE repeat = 4 config = F end # Display EPG while in live TV, # View selected show while in EPG begin prog = mythtv button = DISPLAY repeat = 4 config = M end #~ # Scroll up #~ begin #~ prog = mythtv #~ button = VOL+ #~ repeat = 4 #~ config = Right #~ end #~ # Scroll down #~ begin #~ prog = mythtv #~ button = VOL- #~ repeat = 4 #~ config = Left #~ end #~ # Change display aspect ratio #~ begin #~ prog = mythtv #~ button = FULL #~ repeat = 4 #~ config = W #~ end #~ # Seek to previous commercial cut point #~ begin #~ prog = mythtv #~ button = YELLOW #~ repeat = 4 #~ config = Q === message truncated === ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users - |o | | _ /_ | |(_)(_)| |Ben Dash | |Ask free questions - http://bensqanda.blogspot.com | |My Blog -http://bensdailythoughts.blogspot.com | |Info - http://bensinformationstation.blogspot.com | |Workouts -http://bensworkouts.blogspot.com | - __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org
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Ben Dash wrote: Thanks! I don't think my lirc is at the point where I can start configuring it for mythtv. I can't get it to recognise anything from the remote with the irw test app yet. I try the ~/.mythtv/lircrc file and let you know. I'm using the atiusb driver for lirc. I heard that this was supposed to work for the xBox remote, is that correct? Nothing looks immediately obviously bad in dmesg. Please let me know if you have any other ideas and what info you'd like me to post. Thanks, Ben Well, Xebian comes pre-configured with a kernel module for myth. I've tarr'd up my /etc/lirc directory so you can get the config file for your remote. Not sure about the kernel module -- I didn't build it so not sure. Hope it helps. Norm lirc.tar Description: Unix tar archive ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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On 31-Oct-05, at 10:55 AM, Myth Lists wrote: dependancies get taken care of automatically. To do so add something like deb file:/path/to/debs ./ to /etc/sources.list and, in that directory, do a dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip Packages. Then aptitude update and install mythfrontend mythvideo Ok, got it installed and I can watch TV from my backend server. I don't seem to be getting any themes though. I have them Hmm, they work for me. All I can think is I screwed up the scanpackages line above, gzip should output to Packages.gz but other than that it's exactly what I did and I have gant OK. That'll teach me to post when I'm half asleep. - George ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 07:32:56AM -0800, Ben Dash wrote: I'm just finishing off a gentoo mythfrontend xBox and am running into problems with lirc for the DVD remote. I'm starting to wonder if maybe there isn't different versions of the dongle floating around. I bought just the dongle (loose) at a used-hardware store and programmed my everything-but-the-kitchen-sink remote to send RCA codes. I am able to move the mouse around on the screen and left-click using the navigation buttons, but the action buttons for play/stop/FF/REW didn't do anything. I use a USB keyboard with my XBox 99% of the time so I didn't bother chasing down the problem. Last night I decided I would see how the XBox plays DVDs natively. As with MythTV, I could navigate the DVD menu to select the subtitles, etc. and start the movie. And just like MythTV, the pause button didn't do what I expected. I found that *every* button on the remote (other than the navigation buttons) would cause the DVD to go back to the root menu. I don't think it was a case of having the wrong RCA emulation in the remote because (1) there's only one RCA code and (2) if it was sending the wrong codes the XBox should ignore it the same way any other IR-receiver ignores codes it doesn't understand. If I was a conspiracy theorist, I'd suggest that Microsoft has embraced and extended the IR receiver so that it's only compatible with their transmitter. I guess the next step is to use the lirc snoop to see what codes the dongle is actually reporting. I could change the lircd mappings but that won't solve the native DVD player problem. BTW, it's really quite easy to make your own XBoxUSB converter cable. -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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George Nassas wrote: On 30-Oct-05, at 8:45 PM, Norm wrote: You can upload them to www.dressler.ca (anonymous ftp works). Looks like it doesn't, I'm not allowed to create files. There's a tar of all the debs here: http://rapidshare.de/files/6987309/xebian.myth.tar.html click their free download button, wait 25 seconds or so and then you get a d/l link. Rapid keeps things around until 30 days have passed without a download at which point I'm sure they'll be long obsolete. I can't get to rapidshare.de, are they down? If someone could host them again, I'd be eternally grateful. Thanks! Tom ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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On 31-Oct-05, at 2:18 PM, Tom Lichti wrote: I can't get to rapidshare.de, are they down? If someone could host them again, I'd be eternally grateful. Just tried it and they're up. I've used them for ages and they're pretty reliable. - George P.S. I'm not affiliated with ... ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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George Nassas wrote: On 31-Oct-05, at 2:18 PM, Tom Lichti wrote: I can't get to rapidshare.de, are they down? If someone could host them again, I'd be eternally grateful. Just tried it and they're up. I've used them for ages and they're pretty reliable. - George P.S. I'm not affiliated with ... Figures. NOW it's working...I was getting 'Connection refused' messages a couple of minutes ago. Thanks! Tom ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox
George Nassas wrote: On 31-Oct-05, at 10:55 AM, Myth Lists wrote: dependancies get taken care of automatically. To do so add something like deb file:/path/to/debs ./ to /etc/sources.list and, in that directory, do a dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip Packages. Then aptitude update and install mythfrontend mythvideo Ok, got it installed and I can watch TV from my backend server. I don't seem to be getting any themes though. I have them Hmm, they work for me. All I can think is I screwed up the scanpackages line above, gzip should output to Packages.gz but other than that it's exactly what I did and I have gant OK. That'll teach me to post when I'm half asleep. - George Just re-installed the debs again and no luck with the themes. I seem to have most everything else working except them. My backend is running a bit of a new version but that shouldn't affect it. I'm not running a local mysql or anything else. I've tried going into the backend mysql and removing all of the entries for my xbox from the settings table so it would re-init but that didn't do anything either. When I manually change it to something else in the mysql table, it comes back and says it can't find the theme but yet when you physically go to that directory its definitely there. I'm confused as to why this isn't working -- by all accounts it should be? Norm ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox
Myth Lists wrote: George Nassas wrote: On 31-Oct-05, at 10:55 AM, Myth Lists wrote: dependancies get taken care of automatically. To do so add something like deb file:/path/to/debs ./ to /etc/sources.list and, in that directory, do a dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip Packages. Then aptitude update and install mythfrontend mythvideo Ok, got it installed and I can watch TV from my backend server. I don't seem to be getting any themes though. I have them Hmm, they work for me. All I can think is I screwed up the scanpackages line above, gzip should output to Packages.gz but other than that it's exactly what I did and I have gant OK. That'll teach me to post when I'm half asleep. - George I found the issue -- the are some links in the themes that don't exist -- they must be specific to your machine/setup. rwxrwxrwx 1 root live 56 Oct 31 12:37 README.txt - /home/george/myththemes.epia.r7600/Titivillus/README.txt lrwxrwxrwx 1 root live 60 Oct 31 12:37 background.jpg - /home/george/myththemes.epia.r7600/Titivillus/background.jpg lrwxrwxrwx 1 root live 60 Oct 31 12:37 background.png - /home/george/myththemes.epia.r7600/Titivillus/background.png lrwxrwxrwx 1 root live 60 Oct 31 12:37 button_off.png - /home/george/myththemes.epia.r7600/Titivillus/button_off.png lrwxrwxrwx 1 root live 59 Oct 31 12:37 button_on.png - /home/george/myththemes.epia.r7600/Titivillus/button_on.png drwxrwxrwx 3 root live 4096 Oct 31 12:37 conflict lrwxrwxrwx 1 root live 57 Oct 31 12:37 forward.png - /home/george/myththemes.epia.r7600/Titivillus/forward.png lrwxrwxrwx 1 root live 60 Oct 31 12:37 gallery-ui.xml - /home/george/myththemes.epia.r7600/Titivillus/gallery-ui.xml lrwxrwxrwx 1 root live 57 Oct 31 12:37 game-ui.xml - /home/george/myththemes.epia.r7600/Titivillus/game-ui.xml drwxrwxrwx 3 root live 4096 Oct 31 12:37 guide drwxrwxrwx 3 root live 4096 Oct 31 12:37 music lrwxrwxrwx 1 root live 58 Oct 31 12:37 music-ui.xml - /home/george/myththemes.epia.r7600/Titivillus/music-ui.xml lrwxrwxrwx 1 root live 57 Oct 31 12:37 news-ui.xml - /home/george/myththemes.epia.r7600/Titivillus/news-ui.xml drwxrwxrwx 3 root live 4096 Oct 31 12:37 playback_box lrwxrwxrwx 1 root live 57 Oct 31 12:37 preview.jpg - /home/george/myththemes.epia.r7600/Titivillus/preview.jpg drwxrwxrwx 3 root live 4096 Oct 31 12:37 progfind lrwxrwxrwx 1 root live 56 Oct 31 12:37 qtlook.txt - /home/george/myththemes.epia.r7600/Titivillus/qtlook.txt drwxrwxrwx 3 root live 4096 Oct 31 12:37 rec_opts drwxrwxrwx 3 root live 4096 Oct 31 12:37 rec_priority drwxrwxrwx 3 root live 4096 Oct 31 12:37 shared lrwxrwxrwx 1 root live 60 Oct 31 12:37 text-blank.png - /home/george/myththemes.epia.r7600/Titivillus/text-blank.png lrwxrwxrwx 1 root live 55 Oct 31 12:37 theme.xml - /home/george/myththemes.epia.r7600/Titivillus/theme.xml drwxrwxrwx 3 root live 4096 Oct 31 12:38 title drwxrwxrwx 3 root live 4096 Oct 31 12:38 type lrwxrwxrwx 1 root live 52 Oct 31 12:38 ui.xml - /home/george/myththemes.epia.r7600/Titivillus/ui.xml drwxrwxrwx 3 root live 4096 Oct 31 12:38 video lrwxrwxrwx 1 root live 58 Oct 31 12:38 video-ui.xml - /home/george/myththemes.epia.r7600/Titivillus/video-ui.xml drwxrwxrwx 3 root live 4096 Oct 31 12:38 watermark drwxrwxrwx 3 root live 4096 Oct 31 12:38 weather lrwxrwxrwx 1 root live 60 Oct 31 12:38 weather-ui.xml - /home/george/myththemes.epia.r7600/Titivillus/weather-ui.xml ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox
On 31-Oct-05, at 2:48 PM, Myth Lists wrote: I found the issue -- the are some links in the themes that don't exist -- they must be specific to your machine/setup. rwxrwxrwx 1 root live 56 Oct 31 12:37 README.txt - /home/george/myththemes.epia.r7600/Titivillus/README.txt Oh shoot, that must be because I used lndir to create the xbox build tree. I must have had the same problem as you but did a manual copy and forgotten about it with all the tweaking I was doing getting the xbox set up. Anyway, you can pick up the themes from any of the regular places or copy them from another machine you might have setup or I can put my directory up for download somewhere. Sorry about the screwup. How embarrassing! - George ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox
Oh shoot, that must be because I used lndir to create the xbox build tree. I must have had the same problem as you but did a manual copy and forgotten about it with all the tweaking I was doing getting the xbox set up. Anyway, you can pick up the themes from any of the regular places or copy them from another machine you might have setup or I can put my directory up for download somewhere. Sorry about the screwup. How embarrassing! - George No worries ... don't worry about it! Already downloaded the themes from my backend system and everything is working perfectly now. Appreciate your effort in building the deb files!! Norm ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox
--- Myth Lists wrote: Ben Dash wrote: I try the ~/.mythtv/lircrc file and let you know. I'm using the atiusb driver for lirc. I heard that this was supposed to work for the xBox remote, is that correct? Well, Xebian comes pre-configured with a kernel module for myth. I've tarr'd up my /etc/lirc directory so you can get the config file for your remote. Not sure about the kernel module -- I didn't build it so not sure. It looks like I was not supposed to be using atiusb as my lirc driver. xboxusb seems to be loading better, see dmesg output snippet below: lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, at major 61 usbcore: registered new driver usbfs usbcore: registered new driver hub lirc_xbox: XBOX USB remote driver for LIRC v0.3 usbcore: registered new driver lirc_xbox FATX: 0.0.3 Adding 262136k swap on /mnt/fatx/E/linuxswap. Priority:-1 extents:2 Real Time Clock Driver v1.12 ohci_hcd: 2004 Nov 08 USB 1.1 'Open' Host Controller (OHCI) Driver (PCI) PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:02.0 to 64 ohci_hcd :00:02.0: OHCI Host Controller ohci_hcd :00:02.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 ohci_hcd :00:02.0: irq 1, io mem 0xfed0 hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 1-0:1.0: 4 ports detected PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:03.0 to 64 ohci_hcd :00:03.0: OHCI Host Controller ohci_hcd :00:03.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2 ohci_hcd :00:03.0: irq 9, io mem 0xfed08000 hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 2-0:1.0: 2 ports detected usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 2 hub 1-1:1.0: USB hub found hub 1-1:1.0: 4 ports detected Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 8 ports, IRQ sharing disabled PCI: Enabling device :00:06.1 ( - 0003) PCI: No IRQ known for interrupt pin B of device :00:06.1. Please try using pci=biosirq. usb 1-1.1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 3 lirc_dev: lirc_register_plugin:sample_rate: 0 lirc_xbox[3]: Xbox IR on usb1:3 I have a /etc/lircd.conf which appears to be set up for xbox: # # this config file was automatically generated # using WinLIRC 0.6.4 (LIRC 0.6.1pre3) on Tue May 06 20:57:47 2003 # # contributed by # # brand: MicroSoft # model: Xbox remote # supported devices: Xbox # begin remote name xbox ... end remote Where is the lircrc file supposed to go? ~/lircrc ~/.lircrc ~/.mythtv/lircrc ~/.mythtv/.lircrc None of those locations seemed to make any difference, no response from the xBox DVD remote. I tried running mode2, since irw never seemded to do anything except say connect: Connection refused and it complained mode2: error opening /dev/lirc and indeed it doesn't exist: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls -la /dev/lir* srw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 Nov 1 00:02 /dev/lircd Do I need to create a lirc device manually? Please let me know any ideas, Thanks, Ben - |o | | _ /_ | |(_)(_)| |Ben Dash | |Ask free questions - http://bensqanda.blogspot.com | |My Blog -http://bensdailythoughts.blogspot.com | |Info - http://bensinformationstation.blogspot.com | |Workouts -http://bensworkouts.blogspot.com | - __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox
I did created the lirc device before starting lircd in /etc/init.d/lircd: mknod /dev/lirc0 c 61 0 chmod 0666 /dev/lirc0 Which seems to eliminate the previous error stating that /dev/lirc0 didn't exist. Now /var/log/messages just says that it accepted new client on /dev/lircd and immediately after removed client: Nov 1 01:26:20 xbox Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 8 ports, IRQ sharing disabled Nov 1 01:26:20 xbox PCI: Enabling device :00:06.1 ( - 0003) Nov 1 01:26:20 xbox PCI: No IRQ known for interrupt pin B of device :00:06.1. Please try using pci=biosirq. Nov 1 01:26:20 xbox usb 1-1.1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 3 Nov 1 01:26:20 xbox lirc_dev: lirc_register_plugin:sample_rate: 0 Nov 1 01:26:20 xbox lirc_xbox[3]: Xbox IR on usb1:3 Nov 1 01:26:35 xbox 0.7.0[6042]: lircd(xboxusb) ready Nov 1 01:27:00 xbox 0.7.0[6042]: accepted new client on /dev/lircd Nov 1 01:27:00 xbox 0.7.0[6042]: removed client Unfortunately, although I'm sure I'm close, the xBox DVD remote still isn't doing anything. irw just hangs and shows no keypresses and mode2 still claims that /dev/lirc0 doesn't exist: xbox ~ # ls -la /dev/lir* crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 61, 0 Nov 1 01:26 /dev/lirc0 srw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 Nov 1 01:26 /dev/lircd Any ideas? __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox
Anyone know of any place where I can get packages for Xbox (Xebian) of MythTV that can talk the latest protocol? (I think it's 19?). I have a great functioning backend now with version .19 cvs. Compiling on Xbox doesn't see to be working -- I get errors about allocating pages? Thanks ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox
On 30-Oct-05, at 8:11 PM, Norm wrote: Anyone know of any place where I can get packages for Xbox (Xebian) of MythTV that can talk the latest protocol? (I think it's 19?). The other day I built a full complement for r7600. They're about 11 megs compressed which might be a touch too big for an email but I can put them up somewhere for download if you're interested. They're what Matt distributes but using svn and compiled with arch=pentium3. - George ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox
You can upload them to www.dressler.ca (anonymous ftp works). It will be up for a bit so if anyone else wants to download from it, then can for the next little while. Norm George Nassas wrote: On 30-Oct-05, at 8:11 PM, Norm wrote: Anyone know of any place where I can get packages for Xbox (Xebian) of MythTV that can talk the latest protocol? (I think it's 19?). The other day I built a full complement for r7600. They're about 11 megs compressed which might be a touch too big for an email but I can put them up somewhere for download if you're interested. They're what Matt distributes but using svn and compiled with arch=pentium3. - George ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox
On 30-Oct-05, at 8:45 PM, Norm wrote: You can upload them to www.dressler.ca (anonymous ftp works). Looks like it doesn't, I'm not allowed to create files. There's a tar of all the debs here: http://rapidshare.de/files/6987309/xebian.myth.tar.html click their free download button, wait 25 seconds or so and then you get a d/l link. Rapid keeps things around until 30 days have passed without a download at which point I'm sure they'll be long obsolete. - George ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox
George Nassas wrote: On 30-Oct-05, at 8:45 PM, Norm wrote: You can upload them to www.dressler.ca (anonymous ftp works). Looks like it doesn't, I'm not allowed to create files. There's a tar of all the debs here: http://rapidshare.de/files/6987309/xebian.myth.tar.html Thanks! Downloaded -- sorry about the upload not working -- will need to check that... Norm ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox
On 30-Oct-05, at 9:16 PM, Norm wrote: Thanks! Downloaded -- sorry about the upload not working -- will need to check that... no probs. I forgot to write a few notes about the debs. First, they require libexif to be installed, the normal debian packages don't but somehow that option got configured into my build. Second, for a first install I found it best to create a local archive so that the dependancies get taken care of automatically. To do so add something like deb file:/path/to/debs ./ to /etc/sources.list and, in that directory, do a dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip Packages. Then aptitude update and install mythfrontend mythvideo and so on and you should be good to go. - George ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV on Xbox, again, SUCCESS
On 10/14/05, Russell Salerno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which release of Myth gets installed by this process? Any chance it is release-0-18-fixes (aka 0.18.2 source - revision 7448)? 0.18.1 only but don't let this bother you. As far as I can see, the 0.18 fixes branch hasn't seen much go in since 0.18.1 was released. You're not really going to miss a few gcc4 compile time fixes are you? Isaac - Is it worth looking for other fixes to backport from the trunk or is 0.19 likely to emerge in the next month or so? Anyway, I'm happy that my repository has been of help to people, but I think some of you are giving me too much credit. I'm beginning to feel like a bit of a fraud! All I've done is recompile somebody else's deb source packages to produce debian etch compatible binary packages. Not only this, but so far I haven't contributed a single line of code to the project! So please, a big thankyou to Matt for his expert packaging skills and of course Isaac and the gang for their most excellent code. I feel a lot better for that :) Alex ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] MythTV on Xbox, again
This may not be a useful solution for everyone interested in running a MythTV frontend on an xbox, but . . . Using the info and downloads at this site, http://www.not404.com/cgi-bin/trac.fcgi/wiki/XFedora4, I was able to effortlessly install Fedora Core 4 on my xbox. Then using Jarod's excellent guide I installed MythTV and was up and running! Just an FYI. Quick question, did this re-format your harddrive on the Xbox or were able to just ftp it over and run it as a dashboard item? Thanks. AJM This installation of FC4 on Xbox has a selection right at the beginning that lets you choose if you want to preserve the game-playing ability of your system or if you want to end up with a Linux-only Xbox. I chose the latter. I presume you end up with a dashboard option if you choose the former. In either case you are using the regular Anaconda installation tool. Once I had the system installed and did some prep then all I did was 'yum install mythtv-suite'. It just works. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV on Xbox, again
Thanks. Very interesting, does MythGame work? AJM,. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] MythTV on Xbox, again
Thanks. Very interesting, does MythGame work? AJM,. I have no experience with MythGame but I don't see why it would not work. Something kind of ironic about running an emulated Pacman game on an Xbox. I like it. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV on Xbox, again
Getting Linux to Boot
In order to get Linux to boot you need either Cromwell or
xbeboot. I personally use Xromwell (xbe version of
Cromwell). They are very similar in their configuration,
but I'll stick to Xromwell here on out. Xromwell is a grub
type boot-loader so its configuration file (linuxboot.cfg)
is similar to grub's. Check out:
http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/Cromwell_Manual#Linuxboot.cfg_syntax
for syntax.
I personally use the UXE to run Xromwell. UXE will take
control of the xbox and look for E:\debian\default.xbe to boot.
Xromwell is hardcoded to look for E:\linuxboot.cfg. If
Xromwell finds your linuxboot.cfg a FATX option will appear.
Xromwell also allows you to load your kernel over bootp; I've
never done this so I'm not sure how good this is. Instead I
compiled a kernel and copied it to E:\ and netbooted the
filesystem but not the kernel.
Compiling your kernel
I'm a big fan of the 2.6 kernel (not to say that I'm not of
the 2.4 kernel) so I compiled a 2.6 kernel for my xbox. At the
time of setting up my xbox the most recent was 2.6.12. However
as of now (10/14/05) there are xbox patches up 2.6.13. Download
the patches:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=54192package_id=147485
and patch your corresponding kernel version. Then load up your
kernel with Xromwell, if your kernel is working, you should see
Unable to mount root=
Kernel Options
FATX - FatX is not needed if you don't plan on manipulating the
harddrive, but I'd recommend compiling it as a module as it is
experimental and I have seen some problems with it.
ReiserFS,ext3,ext2 - Not needed since there will be no mounting
of any of these filesystems.
ALSA - I would disable this. I didn't and ran into some problems
with alsa 1.0.19b. Make sure you install 1.0.18 as I know this
works.
Processor Type - Subarchitecture - XBOX - I'm pretty sure this is
enabled by default when you run the xbox patch, but just make sure.
i2c - This is required to be able to control your fan speed and
your led. More on this Later.
Gentoo
Gentoo's emerge is a very nice utility that just wont run on 60megs
of RAM. If you are netbooting, you can just chroot on the NFS server
and run the emerge from the NFS Server. If you aren't nebooting,
make an NFS server on the xbox, and chroot from another machine that
has mounted the xbox harddrive somewhere. Before you emerge make sure
you are using the xbox make profile. See:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/Gentoo_for_Xbox
i2c
GentooX's Shallax wrote some very nice utilities to control the
hardware on the xbox. They can be found at
http://cvs.xbox-linux.org/viewcvs.py/xbox-linux/shallaxs_i2c_stuff/
Feel free to email if you have more questions.
Vic
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Vic,
Can you pass along any info on your process of getting your xbox up
and running? I have focused on the xebain world, so I am not too
familiar with getting gentoo on a xbox.
From http://www.mythtv-xbox.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=23, I assumed it
was a little more troublesome to go the gentoo option.
Thanks
Mike
*On Thu Oct 13 11:45 , Victor sent:
*
I have gentoo running on my xbox not gentoox. I've had no problems
(except for the new alpha version of alsa). Is there a reason it must
be xebain?
Vic
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
javascript:top.opencompose('[EMAIL PROTECTED]','','','') wrote:
I may not be intelligent enough, however. Currently I'm trying to
determine which X11 dev library is needed to compile and then,
how to get
X working again once the lib is installed (X dies on reboot with
this
message repeated: agpgart: Unsupported NVIDIA chipset (device
id: 02a5),
you might want to try agp_try_unsupported=1 ). Slow going.
I get that message once every time I start X up, and it works
fine. You
might have to look elsewhere for troubleshooting.
Also, for those of you trying to compile from source...I recall
reading
somewhere that the compile will fail partway through because of
the memory
contraints of the XBox, but that restarting compilation will work. I
don't have the details handy, but IIRC it was in a thread
somewhere that
people were using Gentoo (not Gentoox) and trying to compile.
Sorry I couldn't be more help, but I thought I'd throw in what
little info
I've got.
Greg
[mythtv-users] MythTV on Xbox, again
I have written before with my difficulties with installing mythtv on Xebian. No matter what repositories I used I couldn't manage to install mythtv. I got some suggestions on this list. Specifically to follow the instructions at this page: http://www.mythtv-xbox.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=36 and use the apt sources posted in a reply. Well, yesterday I finally found the time to try that by doing a Xebian 1.1.4 install from scratch. I managed to install mythtv-frontend, but when I try to install mythvideo I get a broken packages error (details below). I browsed the www.mythtv-xbox.org forums and it seems that I'm not alone with this problem, and that nobody got beyond installing the frontend. It all must have worked some time ago, but it doesn't anymore. The errors are probably due to Xebian using sarge, while the mythtv repository uses sid. What should I do now? Should I do a dist-upgrade? Should I try recompiling MythTv (and wait a few days for it to finish)? Here are the details. I installed Xebian 1.1.4 from scratch and followed the instructions on the above-mentioned page, and used the following source.list: - xbox:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main deb http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib - First I installed mythtv-frontend: - # apt-get install mythtv-frontend [] OK, installs 21 packeges, upgrades 13 (including glibc). - Then I tried installing mythvideo, and here it fails: - xbox:~# apt-get install mythvideo Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: mythvideo: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (= 3:3.3.4) but it is not installable E: Broken packages - -- Vladan Bato [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV on Xbox, again
On 10/13/05, Vladan Bato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have written before with my difficulties with installing mythtv on Xebian. No matter what repositories I used I couldn't manage to install mythtv. I got some suggestions on this list. Specifically to follow the instructions at this page: http://www.mythtv-xbox.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=36 and use the apt sources posted in a reply. Well, yesterday I finally found the time to try that by doing a Xebian 1.1.4 install from scratch. I managed to install mythtv-frontend, but when I try to install mythvideo I get a broken packages error (details below). I browsed the www.mythtv-xbox.org forums and it seems that I'm not alone with this problem, and that nobody got beyond installing the frontend. It all must have worked some time ago, but it doesn't anymore. The errors are probably due to Xebian using sarge, while the mythtv repository uses sid. What should I do now? Should I do a dist-upgrade? Should I try recompiling MythTv (and wait a few days for it to finish)? A few weeks ago I rebuilt the mythtv debian source packages against libraries available in etch. These *might* install on xebian. Add http://alexfisher.me.uk/debian/ etch main to your apt sources and comment out the other mythtv source to find out. If this doesn't work, I wouldn't go as far as doing a dist-upgrade. Just change the apt sources list to point to unstable and then try installing mythvideo again. Hope this helps, Alex ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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Vladan,I feel your pain. I cannot wait to hear an answer. I even tried to compile from source, but that resulted in other errors. I am not concerned with the long build times, so I would appreciate it if some itelligent person could spell out the steps to compile from source that work on an xbox. I compiled my backend from source for a Mandrake machine, so I am familiar with the process. I am confused as to what source to use for a debian (xbox) install. Should I just grab the source according to the mythtv install instructions? Or should I use the source that has already been packaged at deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv? I reviewed that source at http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian and the source for mythtv appears to be based on 0.18.1.4 and the plug-ins on 0.18.1.2. Is this a concern?Any thoughts?thanksmike On Thu Oct 13 2:03 , Vladan Bato sent:I have written before with my difficulties with installing mythtv on Xebian. No matter what repositories I used I couldn't manage to install mythtv. I got some suggestions on this list. Specifically to follow the instructions at this page: http://www.mythtv-xbox.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php\?t=36 and use the apt sources posted in a reply. Well, yesterday I finally found the time to try that by doing a Xebian 1.1.4 install from scratch. I managed to install mythtv-frontend, but when I try to install mythvideo I get a broken packages error (details below). I browsed the www.mythtv-xbox.org forums and it seems that I'm not alone with this problem, and that nobody got beyond installing the frontend. It all must have worked some time ago, but it doesn't anymore. The errors are probably due to Xebian using sarge, while the mythtv repository uses sid. What should I do now? Should I do a dist-upgrade? Should I try recompiling MythTv (and wait a few days for it to finish)? Here are the details. I installed Xebian 1.1.4 from scratch and followed the instructions on the above-mentioned page, and used the following source.list: - xbox:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main deb http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib - First I installed mythtv-frontend: - # apt-get install mythtv-frontend [] OK, installs 21 packeges, upgrades 13 (including glibc). - Then I tried installing mythvideo, and here it fails: - xbox:~# apt-get install mythvideo Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: mythvideo: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (= 3:3.3.4) but it is not installable E: Broken packages - -- Vladan Bato [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV on Xbox, again
Alexander Fisher wrote: A few weeks ago I rebuilt the mythtv debian source packages against libraries available in etch. These *might* install on xebian. Add http://alexfisher.me.uk/debian/ etch main to your apt sources and comment out the other mythtv source to find out. Thanks. I'll try that when I get back home. If this doesn't work, I wouldn't go as far as doing a dist-upgrade. Just change the apt sources list to point to unstable and then try installing mythvideo again. Whell, I already had my sources.list point to unstable, because otherwise none of the mythtv packages would install. When installing mythtv-frontend, apt upgraded some packages (including glibc) to unstable. I'll reinstall xebian (just to be sure) and try again with your repository. -- Vladan Bato [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV on Xbox, again
On 10/13/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vladan, I feel your pain. I cannot wait to hear an answer. I even tried to compile from source, but that resulted in other errors. I am not concerned with the long build times, so I would appreciate it if some itelligent person could spell out the steps to compile from source that work on an xbox. I compiled my backend from source for a Mandrake machine, so I am familiar with the process. I am confused as to what source to use for a debian (xbox) install. Should I just grab the source according to the mythtv install instructions? Or should I use the source that has already been packaged at deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv? I reviewed that source at http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian and the source for mythtv appears to be based on 0.18.1.4 and the plug-ins on 0.18.1.2. Is this a concern? The mdz source versions are actually 0.18.1-4 and 0.18.1-2. The -4 and -2 have been appended by the package maintainer. The mythtv packages has just been tweaked and rereleased more times than the plugin packages. But they're both based on mythtv 0.18.1 so no need to be concerned. Check the debian/changelog file for more details. Anyway, I used pbuilder to rebuild the packages against etch. This website http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto/howtos/debcustomize has some hints on how to do this if you want to try it yourself. I had a bit of bother building the plugin packages until I figured out how to add the libmyth package I had previously built to the pbuilder chroot. BTW I also have an xbox frontend, but I set it up when everything 'just worked' a few months ago. If I'm feeling adventerous, I might try and build some xbox optimised packages. I wonder if I'll notice any performance improvement if I go for -Os and --mtune=pentium3? Alex ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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You tried to compile from source, and got some errors. Did you try and resolve the errors? The steps for compiling from source are as follows: 1. Unpack source 2. Read compilation instructions 3. Follow compilation instructions 4. Fix errors Bob -- Bob Ham 740-5136 0162 368 5136 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Retail/Newstead Court/Support/Registrations/NCG356/DD01370/R6822 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 12:36 PM To: Discussion about mythtv Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV on Xbox, again Vladan, I feel your pain. I cannot wait to hear an answer. I even tried to compile from source, but that resulted in other errors. I am not concerned with the long build times, so I would appreciate it if some itelligent person could spell out the steps to compile from source that work on an xbox. I compiled my backend from source for a Mandrake machine, so I am familiar with the process. I am confused as to what source to use for a debian (xbox) install. Should I just grab the source according to the mythtv install instructions? Or should I use the source that has already been packaged at deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv? I reviewed that source at http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian and the source for mythtv appears to be based on 0.18.1.4 and the plug-ins on 0.18.1.2. Is this a concern? Any thoughts? thanks mike On Thu Oct 13 2:03 , Vladan Bato sent: I have written before with my difficulties with installing mythtv on Xebian. No matter what repositories I used I couldn't manage to install mythtv. I got some suggestions on this list. Specifically to follow the instructions at this page: http://www.mythtv-xbox.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php\?t=36 and use the apt sources posted in a reply. Well, yesterday I finally found the time to try that by doing a Xebian 1.1.4 install from scratch. I managed to install mythtv-frontend, but when I try to install mythvideo I get a broken packages error (details below). I browsed the www.mythtv-xbox.org forums and it seems that I'm not alone with this problem, and that nobody got beyond installing the frontend. It all must have worked some time ago, but it doesn't anymore. The errors are probably due to Xebian using sarge, while the mythtv repository uses sid. What should I do now? Should I do a dist-upgrade? Should I try recompiling MythTv (and wait a few days for it to finish)? Here are the details. I installed Xebian 1.1.4 from scratch and followed the instructions on the above-mentioned page, and used the following source.list: - xbox:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main deb http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib - First I installed mythtv-frontend: - # apt-get install mythtv-frontend [] OK, installs 21 packeges, upgrades 13 (including glibc). - Then I tried installing mythvideo, and here it fails: - xbox:~# apt-get install mythvideo Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: mythvideo: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (= 3:3.3.4) but it is not installable E: Broken packages - -- Vladan Bato [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV on Xbox, again
I am not concerned with the long build times, so I would appreciate it if some itelligent person could spell out the steps to compile from source that work on an xbox. I too am trying to accomplish this so that my XBoxes will work with the latest KnoppMyth alpha. I may not be intelligent enough, however. Currently I'm trying to determine which X11 dev library is needed to compile and then, how to get X working again once the lib is installed (X dies on reboot with this message repeated: agpgart: Unsupported NVIDIA chipset (device id: 02a5), you might want to try agp_try_unsupported=1 ). Slow going. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV on Xbox, again
I may not be intelligent enough, however. Currently I'm trying to determine which X11 dev library is needed to compile and then, how to get X working again once the lib is installed (X dies on reboot with this message repeated: agpgart: Unsupported NVIDIA chipset (device id: 02a5), you might want to try agp_try_unsupported=1 ). Slow going. I get that message once every time I start X up, and it works fine. You might have to look elsewhere for troubleshooting. Also, for those of you trying to compile from source...I recall reading somewhere that the compile will fail partway through because of the memory contraints of the XBox, but that restarting compilation will work. I don't have the details handy, but IIRC it was in a thread somewhere that people were using Gentoo (not Gentoox) and trying to compile. Sorry I couldn't be more help, but I thought I'd throw in what little info I've got. Greg ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV on Xbox, again
I have gentoo running on my xbox not gentoox. I've had no problems (except for the new alpha version of alsa). Is there a reason it must be xebain? Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may not be intelligent enough, however. Currently I'm trying to determine which X11 dev library is needed to compile and then, how to get X working again once the lib is installed (X dies on reboot with this message repeated: agpgart: Unsupported NVIDIA chipset (device id: 02a5), you might want to try agp_try_unsupported=1 ). Slow going. I get that message once every time I start X up, and it works fine. You might have to look elsewhere for troubleshooting. Also, for those of you trying to compile from source...I recall reading somewhere that the compile will fail partway through because of the memory contraints of the XBox, but that restarting compilation will work. I don't have the details handy, but IIRC it was in a thread somewhere that people were using Gentoo (not Gentoox) and trying to compile. Sorry I couldn't be more help, but I thought I'd throw in what little info I've got. Greg ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users -- ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV on Xbox, again
I have gentoo running on my xbox not gentoox. I've had no problems (except for the new alpha version of alsa). Is there a reason it must be xebain? Nope. If you got it all working with Gentoo, that's great. I started down that path, but gave up when I found out the mythfrontend compile was going to take 24 hours plus on it. I even went so far as to start setting up distcc to let my backend server help out, but there were too many potential version problems because I'm running AMD64, so I gave up. Greg ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV on Xbox, again
Vic,Can you pass along any info on your process of getting your xbox up and running? I have focused on the xebain world, so I am not too familiar with getting gentoo on a xbox.From http://www.mythtv-xbox.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=23, I assumed it was a little more troublesome to go the gentoo option.ThanksMike On Thu Oct 13 11:45 , Victor sent:I have gentoo running on my xbox not gentoox. I've had no problems (except for the new alpha version of alsa). Is there a reason it must be xebain? Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may not be intelligent enough, however. Currently I'm trying to determine which X11 dev library is needed to compile and then, how to get X working again once the lib is installed (X dies on reboot with this message repeated: agpgart: Unsupported NVIDIA chipset (device id: 02a5), you might want to try agp_try_unsupported=1 ). Slow going. I get that message once every time I start X up, and it works fine. You might have to look elsewhere for troubleshooting. Also, for those of you trying to compile from source...I recall reading somewhere that the compile will fail partway through because of the memory contraints of the XBox, but that restarting compilation will work. I don't have the details handy, but IIRC it was in a thread somewhere that people were using Gentoo (not Gentoox) and trying to compile. Sorry I couldn't be more help, but I thought I'd throw in what little info I've got. Greg ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users -- ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV on Xbox, again, SUCCESS
A few weeks ago I rebuilt the mythtv debian source packages against libraries available in etch. These *might* install on xebian. Add http://alexfisher.me.uk/debian/ etch main to your apt sources and comment out the other mythtv source to find out. This did it! Thanks Alex! For all those interested, install it while you can, it might stop working in the future. Here are the details: I followed the instructions on http://www.mythtv-xbox.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=36, but used the following sources.list: xbox:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main deb http://alexfisher.me.uk/debian/ etch main deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib You might also try to modify the mythtv-xbox.0.4.5-beta scripts, by changing the compatible version to xebian 1.1.4 (in install.pl) and changing the conf/sources.list file to match the above. The key here is that debian testing (etch) is used instead of unstable (sid), and that Alex's repository is used. You can use any debian mirror for the main debian repository. I managed to install mythtv-frontend and all the plugins. I configured the frontend and watched LiveTV for a few minutes. Finally! There is however one problem left. The remote does not work (actually the lirc driver). I get the following in dmesg: lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, at major 61 usb.c: registered new driver xir devfs_register(lirc/0): could not append to parent, err: -17 lirc_xir: driver registered (minor 0) I didn't have the time to investigate it, but it seems that it has something to do with udev (using /dev/lirc/0 instead of /dev/lirc0). I hope it can be solved... I hope this helps. Good luck. -- Vladan Bato [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV on Xbox, again, SUCCESS
Which release of Myth gets installed by this process? Any chance it is release-0-18-fixes (aka 0.18.2 source - revision 7448)? At 11:44 PM 10/13/2005 +0200, you wrote: A few weeks ago I rebuilt the mythtv debian source packages against libraries available in etch. These *might* install on xebian. Add http://alexfisher.me.uk/debian/ etch main to your apt sources and comment out the other mythtv source to find out. This did it! Thanks Alex! For all those interested, install it while you can, it might stop working in the future. Here are the details: I followed the instructions on http://www.mythtv-xbox.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=36, but used the following sources.list: xbox:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main deb http://alexfisher.me.uk/debian/ etch main deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib You might also try to modify the mythtv-xbox.0.4.5-beta scripts, by changing the compatible version to xebian 1.1.4 (in install.pl) and changing the conf/sources.list file to match the above. The key here is that debian testing (etch) is used instead of unstable (sid), and that Alex's repository is used. You can use any debian mirror for the main debian repository. I managed to install mythtv-frontend and all the plugins. I configured the frontend and watched LiveTV for a few minutes. Finally! There is however one problem left. The remote does not work (actually the lirc driver). I get the following in dmesg: lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, at major 61 usb.c: registered new driver xir devfs_register(lirc/0): could not append to parent, err: -17 lirc_xir: driver registered (minor 0) I didn't have the time to investigate it, but it seems that it has something to do with udev (using /dev/lirc/0 instead of /dev/lirc0). I hope it can be solved... I hope this helps. Good luck. -- Vladan Bato [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV on Xbox, again
Quick question, did this re-format your harddrive on the Xbox or were able to just ftp it over and run it as a dashboard item? Thanks. AJM On 10/13/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may not be a useful solution for everyone interested in running aMythTV frontend on an xbox, but . . . Using the info and downloads at this site,http://www.not404.com/cgi-bin/trac.fcgi/wiki/XFedora4, I was able toeffortlessly install Fedora Core 4 on my xbox. Then using Jarod's excellent guide I installed MythTV and was up and running!Just an FYI.___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV on Xbox, again
Yea no problem... I'll type up a howto as far as I remember... it'll
cover howto running Gentoo 2005.1 and netboot it so that the only files
on the harddrive are the Xromwell, linuxconfig file, and kernel.
I'll post it much more detailed hopefully tom. Is this for one person
or are there more people interested so I'll actually put a good amount
of time into it.
Vic
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Vic,
Can you pass along any info on your process of getting your xbox up
and running? I have focused on the xebain world, so I am not too
familiar with getting gentoo on a xbox.
From http://www.mythtv-xbox.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=23, I assumed it
was a little more troublesome to go the gentoo option.
Thanks
Mike
*On Thu Oct 13 11:45 , Victor sent:
*
I have gentoo running on my xbox not gentoox. I've had no problems
(except for the new alpha version of alsa). Is there a reason it must
be xebain?
Vic
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
javascript:top.opencompose('[EMAIL PROTECTED]','','','') wrote:
I may not be intelligent enough, however. Currently I'm trying to
determine which X11 dev library is needed to compile and then,
how to get
X working again once the lib is installed (X dies on reboot with
this
message repeated: agpgart: Unsupported NVIDIA chipset (device
id: 02a5),
you might want to try agp_try_unsupported=1 ). Slow going.
I get that message once every time I start X up, and it works
fine. You
might have to look elsewhere for troubleshooting.
Also, for those of you trying to compile from source...I recall
reading
somewhere that the compile will fail partway through because of
the memory
contraints of the XBox, but that restarting compilation will work. I
don't have the details handy, but IIRC it was in a thread
somewhere that
people were using Gentoo (not Gentoox) and trying to compile.
Sorry I couldn't be more help, but I thought I'd throw in what
little info
I've got.
Greg
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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on xbox
On 6/22/05, Andrew Close [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/22/05, Todd Pearsall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can a modded Xbox with component-out serve up HD? I wasn't sure if it would have enough horsepower. i believe several good answers to this can be found in the archives: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ but off the top of my head i think it can handle 720p, but don't quote me on that. ;) ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users I wouldn't count on it. -- I probably still have a few (well, now a whole bunch) gmail invites. Drop me a line (off list) if you'd like an account. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on xbox
i dont know... my box does 1080i just fine on my 42 samsung plasma using the component (red, green, blue) connection pack. cheers, j ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on xbox
The xbox does have the capacity to display HD resolutions, but as far as I know it does not have the capability to play HD content. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.06.24 10:38]: : i dont know... my box does 1080i just fine on my 42 samsung plasma : using the component (red, green, blue) connection pack. : : cheers, : : j : ___ : mythtv-users mailing list : mythtv-users@mythtv.org : http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users : -- James Esslinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] Mythtv on xbox
Can a modded Xbox with component-out serve up HD? I wasn't sure if it would have enough horsepower. Thanks, Todd ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on xbox
On 6/22/05, Todd Pearsall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can a modded Xbox with component-out serve up HD? I wasn't sure if it would have enough horsepower. i believe several good answers to this can be found in the archives: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ but off the top of my head i think it can handle 720p, but don't quote me on that. ;) ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on xbox
Ok this is sounding good. So that sounds like that you don't need to use a new BIOS. and the wife can use it simply. Cool. The one caveat is that the bios that I have on my modchip is quasi-legal (ie, it's a hacked bios) and when you buy a modchip it will likely come with cromwell installed by default. I don't know any of the details on flashing the bios etc, because I just paid a guy to install the chip, and he did all that stuff for me (which is apparently legally dubious.) The Evox dashboard needed to be installed as well, but I didn't do it. How did you get it to boot to Xebian. did you have to configure the chip to boot to the right files? Did the install of Xebian do this for you or did you have to edit the mod chip to allow the booting of linux for this menu. Once I had a modded xbox, I just popped in the disc and powered up (with the modchip enabled) and followed the install directions from the readme in http://bit.blkbk.com/mythtv-xbox.0.4.5-beta.tar.gz Really i don't know of the use for the xecuter3 then. it sounds as if you can boot linux/mythtv from the dashboard of evox. If that is the case and it can be done by a simpleton like me, i am going out to by one. If you buy a chip, you'll likely have to install a hacked bios and the evox dashboard yourself, so it's not quite as simple as it sounds. well i was wondering that, if they use a worm to do the checking, then i would be a simple task to just look for an f: drive. if there is one it has a mod. -banned- or even is there anything on the C: drive that doesn't belong? since that's where the alternate dashboards live. I suppose that you could all ways use XBCONNECT.com which is free (ATM) and they don't care if it has been modded or not. There's XBox Kai as well apparently. Now that is cruel. very cruel. you are a better man than i Not starting to collect guns and plans for buildings are you?? haha - just kidding - i couldn't put up with that. (can you tell i have no kids?) The amazing thing about it is that you begin to recognize the signs of good kids shows vs. bad kids shows. You'd never get me to record Barney on the Myth box, but Blue's Clues is actually pretty tolerable as background noise when the two year old needs calming (it has a narcotic effect on him :) Greg would you mind if i emailed you off list for some more details? No problem. PS thanks for the info re the software mod. - i will have look at that too Someone else must have given you those details - my software mod attempt was a legendary failure. :) Greg ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on xbox
On 6/20/05, Chris Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are a couple of install options - one of which is to create the root filesystem as a loopback file on the xbox filesystem - no need to run fdisk. The entire system is contained in a half dozen files on the E: drive. That sound interesting. When I boot with the modchip, the evox dashboard comes up, and I added the option to boot Xebian to a menu. When I choose that option, Xebian starts up (most of the time - it's probably closer to 3:1 now) Supposedly this is an issue with Xebian 1.12 on v1.6 xboxes. I haven't tried 1.13 yet to see if it fixes the problem. Ok this is sounding good. So that sounds like that you don't need to use a new BIOS. and the wife can use it simply. Cool. No, actually you do need a new BIOS to run anything other than XBox. The way the modchip in my XBox works is like Greg said earlier: 1) Power up using the top button and the machine boots with the M$ BIOS. It plays XBox in that mode. The M$ BIOS is still in the machine and the modchip is not being used. 2) Power up using the bottom button and the machine boots with the modchip BIOS. (In my case EvoX but there are others. More in a second...) In this mode the M$ BIOS is not being used and you cannot play XBox. The machine boots to some 'environment' - in my case SlaYer'S. From there I use the file manager tools to get Xebian going and MythTV running. This all works fine. It takes some training to teach non-computer folks to be able to boot this mess by themselves but eventually things get worked out and it does work. How did you get it to boot to Xebian. did you have to configure the chip to boot to the right files? I boot to SlaYer'S, then Avalaunch, and use the file manager to select the default.xbe file in the Debian directory. After that it looks like a normal Linux boot. Did the install of Xebian do this for you or did you have to edit the mod chip to allow the booting of linux for this menu. Neither. Xebian cannot work until the modchip is in, so you need to go get that done first. After the modchip is in you'll then need to set up your hard drive in the box to allow you to put Xebian on it. This is what SlaYer'S is most useful for. It can restore all the XBox stuff, other than your XBox Live codes I think, if you make a mistake. (And I made enough mistakes to write a book about when I did this 6 weeks ago!) You may want to consider asking you modchip installer to put a larger hard drive in for you if you intend to both watch MythTV and play XBox. With a larger drive you can store copies of your game CDs and not need the actual CD to play. (Or so I've been told...) ;-) Really i don't know of the use for the xecuter3 then. it sounds as if you can boot linux/mythtv from the dashboard of evox. If that is the case and it can be done by a simpleton like me, i am going out to by one. Not sure about this. I've not used it. the cheapest BIOS (EvoX) seems ot be good enough that my 76 year old father can get it to boot when he needs to. (I gave the XBox to him since I didn't want to run a hacked BIOS. I have only had the briefest look at the xbox. but the start up time on the thing is really quick. too quick for a computer. I don't know how it works. might be worth reading up on that. No, it is a computer and it is booting, but they aren't checking hardware like a PC does so it goes fast. Now, about BIOS's. There are really 3 BIOS classes for you to know about: M$ BIOS - it comes in the machine and it only runs XBox. Cromwell BIOS - completely open source but will NOT work with the newer XBoxs that are available in the retail chain. I went to Best Buy, bought an XBox, and promptly found out that Cromwell does not work and probably never will work with the newer XBoxs. If you want Cromwell make sure you get a Rev. 1.4 or earlier. (And possibly 1.5 migh work too. I've forgottend.) Hacked BIOS's - These BIOS's are ALL derivitives of M$'s BIOS and have been hacked up by developer types to allow them to use their XBoxs as they wish. It is my understanding that it is legal for them to do this for personal use by *may* be illegal for them to distribute it to you and I. I don't know for sure so I decided I didn't want to mess with it and gave up on doing any more XBox MythTV setups unless I run into some clean, oder XBoxs somewhere. You MUST use either Cromwell (open source) or Hack (reverse engineered and modified) to make any form of MythTV run on an XBox today. Hope this helps, Mark ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on xbox
This seems to keep coming up, you do not need a mod chip to load Linux and then myth on a Xbox. All now 4 of them I have running as frontends are all soft hacked. They all still can play Xbox games as long as Xbox live is not needed. See below. http://www.xbox-linux.org/ Shaun From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Mark Knecht Sent: Tue 6/21/2005 11:14 AM To: Chris Henderson; Discussion about mythtv Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on xbox On 6/20/05, Chris Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are a couple of install options - one of which is to create the root filesystem as a loopback file on the xbox filesystem - no need to run fdisk. The entire system is contained in a half dozen files on the E: drive. That sound interesting. When I boot with the modchip, the evox dashboard comes up, and I added the option to boot Xebian to a menu. When I choose that option, Xebian starts up (most of the time - it's probably closer to 3:1 now) Supposedly this is an issue with Xebian 1.12 on v1.6 xboxes. I haven't tried 1.13 yet to see if it fixes the problem. Ok this is sounding good. So that sounds like that you don't need to use a new BIOS. and the wife can use it simply. Cool. No, actually you do need a new BIOS to run anything other than XBox. The way the modchip in my XBox works is like Greg said earlier: 1) Power up using the top button and the machine boots with the M$ BIOS. It plays XBox in that mode. The M$ BIOS is still in the machine and the modchip is not being used. 2) Power up using the bottom button and the machine boots with the modchip BIOS. (In my case EvoX but there are others. More in a second...) In this mode the M$ BIOS is not being used and you cannot play XBox. The machine boots to some 'environment' - in my case SlaYer'S. From there I use the file manager tools to get Xebian going and MythTV running. This all works fine. It takes some training to teach non-computer folks to be able to boot this mess by themselves but eventually things get worked out and it does work. How did you get it to boot to Xebian. did you have to configure the chip to boot to the right files? I boot to SlaYer'S, then Avalaunch, and use the file manager to select the default.xbe file in the Debian directory. After that it looks like a normal Linux boot. Did the install of Xebian do this for you or did you have to edit the mod chip to allow the booting of linux for this menu. Neither. Xebian cannot work until the modchip is in, so you need to go get that done first. After the modchip is in you'll then need to set up your hard drive in the box to allow you to put Xebian on it. This is what SlaYer'S is most useful for. It can restore all the XBox stuff, other than your XBox Live codes I think, if you make a mistake. (And I made enough mistakes to write a book about when I did this 6 weeks ago!) You may want to consider asking you modchip installer to put a larger hard drive in for you if you intend to both watch MythTV and play XBox. With a larger drive you can store copies of your game CDs and not need the actual CD to play. (Or so I've been told...) ;-) Really i don't know of the use for the xecuter3 then. it sounds as if you can boot linux/mythtv from the dashboard of evox. If that is the case and it can be done by a simpleton like me, i am going out to by one. Not sure about this. I've not used it. the cheapest BIOS (EvoX) seems ot be good enough that my 76 year old father can get it to boot when he needs to. (I gave the XBox to him since I didn't want to run a hacked BIOS. I have only had the briefest look at the xbox. but the start up time on the thing is really quick. too quick for a computer. I don't know how it works. might be worth reading up on that. No, it is a computer and it is booting, but they aren't checking hardware like a PC does so it goes fast. Now, about BIOS's. There are really 3 BIOS classes for you to know about: M$ BIOS - it comes in the machine and it only runs XBox. Cromwell BIOS - completely open source but will NOT work with the newer XBoxs that are available in the retail chain. I went to Best Buy, bought an XBox, and promptly found out that Cromwell does not work and probably never will work with the newer XBoxs. If you want Cromwell make sure you get a Rev. 1.4 or earlier. (And possibly 1.5 migh work too. I've forgottend.) Hacked BIOS's - These BIOS's are ALL derivitives of M$'s BIOS and have been hacked up by developer types to allow them to use their XBoxs as they wish. It is my understanding that it is legal for them to do this for personal use by *may* be illegal for them to distribute it to you and I. I don't know for sure so I decided I didn't want to mess with it and gave up on doing any more XBox MythTV setups unless I run into some clean, oder XBoxs somewhere. You MUST use either Cromwell (open source) or Hack (reverse engineered and modified) to make any form
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on xbox
On 6/21/05, Shaun Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This seems to keep coming up, you do not need a mod chip to load Linux and then myth on a Xbox. All now 4 of them I have running as frontends are all soft hacked. They all still can play Xbox games as long as Xbox live is not needed. See below. http://www.xbox-linux.org/ Shaun Yes, I suppose that's true although I've heard that even the soft hacks won't work on all newer XBoxs such as the 1.6b. I do not know that for a fact though. Thanks for bringing that up as I completely overlooked it. Cheers, Mark ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on xbox
On 6/20/05, Greg Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't /need/ cromwell, and in fact if you get a new xbox, chances are good that cromwell won't work for you. I'll tell you about my setup, so you know what's possible. I got my box hard-modded by a local guy with a so-called cheap-mod (DuoX2) dunno why it's called a cheapmod, since it seems to do everything I'd want... There are two buttons on a stock Xbox - power and eject. The way the installer hooked it up (and maybe this is default, I dunno) pushing the eject button to power up starts the XBox with the modchip disabled. Powering on with the power button starts the box with the modchip/launches a non-ms dashboard. From there, I booted up a Xebian cd, and followed the install at http://bit.blkbk.com/ - pretty simple. The XBox remote dongle worked out of the box and everything is pretty smooth - aside from the occasional crash :( Thanks for the taking the time to reply. i went and read the mythtv-box website posts, thanks (i didn't find that one :-) ) But i am a little confused still. in the posts there is says that quote snip --- Powering it on via the eject button uses the ms bios (ie unmodded) and power button boots up the modchip bios and boots to evox. (great) The only problem that I have with it is that Xebian doesn't always start properly from the dashboard. ( ??? ) I'd say it's about 50/50 - it'll hang with that dreaded green pixel requiring a reboot/retry. Otherwise it's all good. end quote --- the thing that confuses me is the ' Xebian doesnt always start from the dashboard' part. I was under the impression that Xebian was a full linux install. does that me it reboots the xbox and then loads the Xebian/mythtv setup. Also where did this install of xebian/mythtv go? like i said before i know that the tool 'xbtool' will make a new partition did you put it there? You didnt say if you had replaced the hdd but i got the impression that you didnt. so how do you get the versions of evox and xebian to coexsist? It is sounding like you can play the standard M$ xbox by pressing the eject button. (great the wife will love the simplicity of that) then if you press the power button it starts the 'modded version' of the xbox called evox. from there you can do all of the fun extra bits that the chip allows AND start the liunx version of mythtv. (not the XBox Media Center) Did i get it right. CH ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on xbox
Sorry hit enter at the wrong time i guess. On 6/20/05, Greg Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't /need/ cromwell, and in fact if you get a new xbox, chances are good that cromwell won't work for you. I'll tell you about my setup, so you know what's possible. I got my box hard-modded by a local guy with a so-called cheap-mod (DuoX2) dunno why it's called a cheapmod, since it seems to do everything I'd want... There are two buttons on a stock Xbox - power and eject. The way the installer hooked it up (and maybe this is default, I dunno) pushing the eject button to power up starts the XBox with the modchip disabled. Powering on with the power button starts the box with the modchip/launches a non-ms dashboard. From there, I booted up a Xebian cd, and followed the install at http://bit.blkbk.com/ - pretty simple. The XBox remote dongle worked out of the box and everything is pretty smooth - aside from the occasional crash :( Thanks for the taking the time to reply. i went and read the mythtv-box website posts, thanks (i didn't find that one :-) ) But i am a little confused still. in the posts there is says that quote snip --- Powering it on via the eject button uses the ms bios (ie unmodded) and power button boots up the modchip bios and boots to evox. (great) The only problem that I have with it is that Xebian doesn't always start properly from the dashboard. ( ??? ) I'd say it's about 50/50 - it'll hang with that dreaded green pixel requiring a reboot/retry. Otherwise it's all good. end quote --- the thing that confuses me is the ' Xebian doesn't always start from the dashboard' part. I was under the impression that Xebian was a full linux install. does that me it reboots the xbox and then loads the Xebian/mythtv setup. Also where did this install of xebian/mythtv go? like i said before i know that the tool 'xbtool' will make a new partition did you put it there? You didnt say if you had replaced the hdd but i got the impression that you didnt. so how do you get the versions of evox and xebian to coexist? It is sounding like you can play the standard M$ xbox by pressing the eject button. (great the wife will love the simplicity of that) then if you press the power button it starts the 'modded version' of the xbox called evox. from there you can do all of the fun extra bits that the chip allows AND start the liunx version of mythtv. (not the XBox Media Center) Did i get it right. CH ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on xbox
I am looking into this now. The cable looks simple - just get a PC-side connector and solder up a cut xbox controller cable (internal wire colors match up) Or buy one on eBay, which is what I did. Supposedly if you stick in any flash drive it'll reformat it to fatx without prompting, so be careful that there are no PC files on it. Not all Flash drives work with this method. There is a list somewhere if you Google around of which Flash drives are supported. I initially bought a Huke 128MB drive which didn't work, then got a Comsol 128MB which did. Regards, Phill ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on xbox
I had the parts laying around, so I made one. Thanks for the info on the fash devices... I was talking to a xbox modder friend of mine, and he suggested to flash the tsop, because this will be a dedicated linux box. If you go that route then no mod chip is needed (i am told) He's going to do it for me for a case of beer. I picked up a used XBOX from EB Games for $129+$11 1yr warrenty+tax. According to the sales guy, it covers modded units. --- Phill Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking into this now. The cable looks simple - just get a PC-side connector and solder up a cut xbox controller cable (internal wire colors match up) Or buy one on eBay, which is what I did. Supposedly if you stick in any flash drive it'll reformat it to fatx without prompting, so be careful that there are no PC files on it. Not all Flash drives work with this method. There is a list somewhere if you Google around of which Flash drives are supported. I initially bought a Huke 128MB drive which didn't work, then got a Comsol 128MB which did. Regards, Phill ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users __ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on xbox
The only problem that I have with it is that Xebian doesn't always start properly from the dashboard. ( ??? ) I'd say it's about 50/50 - it'll hang with that dreaded green pixel requiring a reboot/retry. Otherwise it's all good. the thing that confuses me is the ' Xebian doesnt always start from the dashboard' part. I was under the impression that Xebian was a full linux install. does that me it reboots the xbox and then loads the Xebian/mythtv setup. There are a couple of install options - one of which is to create the root filesystem as a loopback file on the xbox filesystem - no need to run fdisk. The entire system is contained in a half dozen files on the E: drive. When I boot with the modchip, the evox dashboard comes up, and I added the option to boot Xebian to a menu. When I choose that option, Xebian starts up (most of the time - it's probably closer to 3:1 now) Supposedly this is an issue with Xebian 1.12 on v1.6 xboxes. I haven't tried 1.13 yet to see if it fixes the problem. then if you press the power button it starts the 'modded version' of the xbox called evox. from there you can do all of the fun extra bits that the chip allows AND start the liunx version of mythtv. (not the XBox Media Center) Did i get it right. Yup. I also have XBox Media Center installed on my evox menu, and the myth scripts installed there, but I never use it anymore. Since I got my myth frontend working and configured the way I like, I haven't spent much time in the dashboard, or doing other stuff. Supposedly I'd be able to play on xBox Live, but I have my suspicions - it would be easy enough to detect that the box has been modded even if the modchip is disabled (just by the presence of unauthorized files on the HD) Not that it matters much to me - I don't get to use the XBox for anything other than TV anymore ;) It's a 24 hour Blues Clues machine it seems like. Greg ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
