[newbie] Trouble Compiling Network Driver
I've been having a very hard time compiling the driver for my Ethernet card. My computer is a dual boot setup with Windows 98 and Linux Mandrake 6.1. I have the Cox@home cable Internet service, and a SOHOware NDC 10/100 Fast Ethernet PCI card. The card includes the "tulip" driver for Linux on the install disk, but neither that version, nor any of the others I have found on the Net will compile. I have used many different command lines, including exact copies from the tulip source code. and from various Web pages and How-To's. The main error message I get is: tulip.c :101: warning : *warning You must compile this file with the correct options! tulip.c :102 : warning : *warning See the last lines of the source file. tulip.c :103 : warning : *warning You must compile this driver with "-O". Depending on what arguments I put on the command line, I will also get an error message from gcc saying that "-O is an unrecognized option." (!!) I'm not a complete newbie to Linux, but I don't know very much about the technical side. I finally learned how to set-up a PPP dial-up connection in Linux, but this Ethernet thing is driving me crazy. eth0 is not a "known device" to the kernel, so I assume I have to add tulip as a module, or recompile the kernel with it. I know that tulip is listed as a driver option in Linuxconf, but its not in /lib/modules, or anywhere else that I can find. During the Mandrake installation, it autodetected the network card, but it fails to initialize it on starting up the system - always the same message about the "unknown device." Can anybody help? By the way, I have tried -O option with both O (upper and lower case letter) and 0 (numeral zero). Thanks, Torrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Clean uninstall
Hi, answers to the questions follow within the text: On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, you wrote: On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Karen M. Heiby wrote: I would like to know how to cleanly uninstall Linux. I'm having peculiar problems that I think can only be fixed with a clean install. Here's what I've tried *several times over* but still does not work: 1.) Deleting the Linux partition from Windows a.) (In Windows 98) filling up my hard drive with junk--totally, then deleting the junk (just to make sure anything of Linux that might still be there is overwritten) b.) scandisk (Windows 98) and defrag (Windows 98) or c.) formatting the entire hard drive (with DOS "fdisk") and reinstalling Windows 98, repartitioning it for Linux (Partition Magic) and then reinstalling Linux 2.) Going into Linux as root, going to /, and typing the rm -fr /* command, which a.) gets stuck even if I wait a couple hours, I don't see anything happening. 3.) Going into runlevel 3 as root, going to /, and deleting each directory individually with "rm -fr nameofdirectory" a.) (However: I can't delete /proc b.) and I can't delete /lib) then, c.) I boot to DOS with a disk and using "fdisk \mbr" to delete LILO d.) I reinstall Linux Ok first off, if you allow it to format the drive during install it's gone, not sorta gone but gone, it would cost big money to retieve even a small piece... I tell it to format my Linux native partition but I swear it's keeping stuff. All three methods fail to get rid of my problems. For ex., KDE freezes when I use KFM to browse the /mnt directory. No other file managers (Gnome, KDE file manager, or any terminal) freeze, and it is not a permissions problem. It's just KFM/KDE! When I click the /dev directory in KFM and look at its permissions properties, the text (User, Group, Other) is grayed out but the checkboxes are nonfunctional but the proper permissions are assigned. Same goes for everything else in /dev. I can use chmod or any other file manager to modify permissions and have done so. /etc/rc.d/init.d/amd status says what? If automount is trying to mount something it can't it's gonna take awhile to time out. gmc has a feature (pretty sure this is in KFM also) that will show "the size" of the directories, if this is on and you have a recent harddrive (eg, BIG) it's going to take awhile It isn't trying to mount anything, I unmounted everything I could before I issued the command. Do the gears spin, does the mouse (or anything "freeze"), which viewmode.. html, long, text..? The "gears" spin just a little at first. It freezes with a black screen, shows the terminal a couple times, then just black screen again for about a couple of hours with just a blip or so of hard drive activity every couple minutes. I mean a blip, like a fraction of a second. Are you root when trying to change /dev/* file permissions? Yes, I am root. I *can* change the permissions in everything *but* KFM. GAIM (AOL Instant Messenger clone) is retaining my contact list, when that should never happen if it were a clean install. This is not a problem, per se, but just an indicator that I still have old information from previous installations haunting which are likely the cause of my persistent problems. Knowing AOL they don't trust you to keep track of your Buddies, so they store it on the server.. No, this can't be the case. I also have Windows 98 and every time I reinstall AOL IM, I have to re-add buddies. Gnome's "Settings" on the panel is kaput. I can click Gnome Control Center and get it running, but if I click anything else on the Panel under Settings, (Multimedia, Peripherals, etc. ) nothing happens. That's just a minor annoyance since I can use these from Gnome Control Center anyway, but annoying nonetheless. Any output on the terminal you started Xwindows on? No output, just nothing happens. During installation, I am never asked certain questions that I vaguely remember being asked the very first time I installed Linux, such as how much RAM do I have, etc. It seems to install as if it knows or thinks it's installing on top of another installation of itself. You were in expert mode, or it was an older version that didn't detect your video card so it had to ask. No, I installed it the first time in regular mode; since then I have been using expert mode. I have always been using the same version of Mandrake (6.1 which I got on October 4). What gets me is that after I tried Route #1(above), by filling up my hard drive, I should have written over anything hard drive clusters that had Linux in them at one time, right? Even the boot record was re-made with a new LILO. How come old Linux glitches are still haunting me? Why is my GAIM contact list still intact when it
Re: [newbie] Updating Mandrake v6.0 - 6.1 = HOW?
Ernest The version number is a way of identifying the distribution. As soon as I wrote/posted my6 inquire, I realized this. ;-) Sometimes it helps to write out my query for me to "reason" it out. If your kernel version is 2.2.13-7mdk 2.2.9-19mdk and there is a name (Helios) on the log in screen for the text mode, Hmm... I'll look to see what it does have there the next time I boot to Linux. Interesting that you didn't have any problems doing the upgrade that way. I've seen several posts indicating that this may lead to problems. Upgrade? I beileve what I did merely qualifies as an "update". ;-) And when it comes to me accomplishing the "outside the norm," that is of no surprise to anyone who knows me. ;-)
[newbie] linux games, no keyboard via WINE
On a whim, I wanted to try StarCraft via WINE. The operation of the game (once it loaded) didn't seem slow at all, but I had absolutely no keyboard support. For me, the game is unplayable without a keyboard/ mouse combination. Suggestions?
[newbie] Linux RESCUE disk?
Ernest you must boot from a floppy disk, with a rescue disk running. When booting from a BOOT floppy, and I use "rescue" at the Lilo Boot prompt, I am instructed to insert a "RESCUE"(?) disk. How do I make one?
[newbie] linux games, and Matrox m3D
Aldrich I'm going to have to give up this video card and get a 3d card, Anyone know where I can find information on setting up a Matrox m3D under Linux?
Re: [newbie] Re: your mail
On Sun, Oct 31, 1999 at 09:43:22PM -0800, Chip Wiegand wrote: I am interested in this also. I have apache installed and it does run. I can connect to my pages from any pc in my home network. The next part is this - How do we (I) get to our pages from the outside world? Don't we need a connection to the internet, other than through an isp? When a friend of mine tried to ping my ip address it wouldn't work, my isp has a firewall and I have a firewall. Well, both of you are going to need to allow incoming connections on port 80 on your firewalls. Next, you'll want to contact your ISP about getting a static IP and a domain name else you'll be stuck using IP numbers to contact your system. On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Oct 31, 1999 at 03:35:22PM -0800, Dreja Julag wrote: Hello all! I am wondering if I can create a web server of my own with my linux box for my friends and neighbors. I think it sounds like a cool experiment, but I don't know where to start. Thanks for the help. I know, I could probably look to a howto, but they are not the friendliest little creatures in the world. Install the apache package. Start the server with: /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd start Put the documents you wish to publish into /home/httpd/html. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Clean uninstall
On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Karen M. Heiby wrote: Hi, answers to the questions follow within the text: On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Axalon wrote: On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Karen M. Heiby wrote: [snip] Ok first off, if you allow it to format the drive during install it's gone, not sorta gone but gone, it would cost big money to retieve even a small piece... I tell it to format my Linux native partition but I swear it's keeping stuff. unless mkfs is erroring dureing format (check tty5) it's eraseing it all [snip] /etc/rc.d/init.d/amd status says what? If automount is trying to mount something it can't it's gonna take awhile to time out. gmc has a feature (pretty sure this is in KFM also) that will show "the size" of the directories, if this is on and you have a recent harddrive (eg, BIG) it's going to take awhile It isn't trying to mount anything, I unmounted everything I could before I issued the command. Yes, but what you do and what amd does are different things, was that you saying it's not installed or not running then? Do the gears spin, does the mouse (or anything "freeze"), which viewmode.. html, long, text..? The "gears" spin just a little at first. It freezes with a black screen, shows the terminal a couple times, then just black screen again for about a couple of hours with just a blip or so of hard drive activity every couple minutes. I mean a blip, like a fraction of a second. as root, /etc/rc.d/init.d/amd stop /etc/rc.d/init.d/netfs stop as user, startx # Does it function correctly now? as your user, mv ~/.kde ~/kde.broke cp -r /etc/skel/.kde ~/ startx # Does it function correctly now? as user, rm -rf /tmp/kfm_* rm -rf /tmp/kio_* startx # Does it function correctly now? Are you root when trying to change /dev/* file permissions? Yes, I am root. I *can* change the permissions in everything *but* KFM. And in KFM anywhere but /dev ? GAIM (AOL Instant Messenger clone) is retaining my contact list, when that should never happen if it were a clean install. This is not a problem, per se, but just an indicator that I still have old information from previous installations haunting which are likely the cause of my persistent problems. Knowing AOL they don't trust you to keep track of your Buddies, so they store it on the server.. No, this can't be the case. I also have Windows 98 and every time I reinstall AOL IM, I have to re-add buddies. This could be only for their external (from the aol software) version, i can't even make edjucated guess at what it does as we have no sourcecode. :/ I do see in the gaim Changelog insertion of a script to convert the buddy.lst into a gaimlist, aswell as references to implement it directly into the code, this may have been done already (if so shouldn't do it like it does so automagicly thats to much, some poor 13 year old is gonna get daddys porn mail or something silly), also as Bero said it may actualy store them remotely (haven't gotten to testing this yet) Gnome's "Settings" on the panel is kaput. I can click Gnome Control Center and get it running, but if I click anything else on the Panel under Settings, (Multimedia, Peripherals, etc. ) nothing happens. That's just a minor annoyance since I can use these from Gnome Control Center anyway, but annoying nonetheless. Any output on the terminal you started Xwindows on? No output, just nothing happens. Anyone else able to reproduce this one? During installation, I am never asked certain questions that I vaguely remember being asked the very first time I installed Linux, such as how much RAM do I have, etc. It seems to install as if it knows or thinks it's installing on top of another installation of itself. You were in expert mode, or it was an older version that didn't detect your video card so it had to ask. No, I installed it the first time in regular mode; since then I have been using expert mode. I have always been using the same version of Mandrake (6.1 which I got on October 4). What gets me is that after I tried Route #1(above), by filling up my hard drive, I should have written over anything hard drive clusters that had Linux in them at one time, right? Even the boot record was re-made with a new LILO. How come old Linux glitches are still haunting me? Why is my GAIM contact list still intact when it shouldn't be? I dunno wish all my personal stuff came back after a format, save me lots of time ;) Well, that would be nice, too, but the thing is my /home directories are totally cleanly installed (DOH!!) It's like Murphy's Law or something!! ;-) Definatly something, you didn't buy the pc used did ya it is halloween ;) I really want to cleanly install Linux to solve some of my problems and give me peace of mind and solid footing for more learning, but I have a problem doing so when I know this machine isn't as pure as I'd
Re: [newbie] Clean uninstall
I have had someone else email me from the newsgroup, saying that the Mandrake installation's re-formatting process also did not work... Any insight into this? Here's what he wrote: I have had the same thing happen several months ago. The regular format did not clean the partition. To make sure it is clean, do a "check for errors" when formatting. This will take a longer time. It was the strangest thing. I had got past the format and had selected packages to be installed, when the computer seized up. I was worried about one ext2 partition that I had not formatted to make sure it was still ok. I ran tomsrbt and found my entire linux still intact. The three partitions I asked to be partitioned (I even watched the display and drive lights working) were still there. I also was able to view them from Windows with "explore2fs" Just wondering, because I tried this in addition to everything else I mentioned before, and it did not work (during installation, checking the option to format hda2, my Linux native partition). Thanks for the help, Karen Bero wrote: On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Karen M. Heiby wrote: Ok first off, if you allow it to format the drive during install it's gone, not sorta gone but gone, it would cost big money to retieve even a small piece... I tell it to format my Linux native partition but I swear it's keeping stuff. Can't happen. Unless of course you're using several partitions and formatting only one of them. GAIM (AOL Instant Messenger clone) is retaining my contact list Knowing AOL they don't trust you to keep track of your Buddies, so they store it on the server.. No, this can't be the case. It is the case. Try installing gaim on another machine and you'll see you have the contact list there too. I also have Windows 98 and every time I reinstall AOL IM, I have to re-add buddies. That's because their own implementation of their protocol is quite broken. LLaP bero
Re: [newbie] linux games, and Matrox m3D
On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, PC wrote: Aldrich I'm going to have to give up this video card and get a 3d card, Anyone know where I can find information on setting up a Matrox m3D under Linux? Refresh me, Isn't that the dedicated card with a powerVR chip stuck on it? -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] Trouble installing/configuring X/video card
I also have problem installing/configure X/video card. Total Newbie. Linux-Mandrake 6.1, AMD 333MHz, 64MB Video Trident 3DImage 975 (generic) Monitor CyberVision C-70 Was able to select video card but unable to set up monitor Cybervision. Try custom, every possible combination there was there as far as horizontal selection and vertical selection, still not working for X-window. I can't find any way to type in the range per monitor manual. Please help. --- John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, you wrote: Any reason why only about every third message I send here gets through??? quite frustrating... Here goes again: Hi all, Total newbie. Linux-Mandrake 6.1 Pentium 2 266mhz. 128meg RAM Video card: Jaton Video87AGP Monitor: IBM 6556 p72 According to JATON's website, the Video87AGP is really a Trident 3DImage. Which, according to the Xfree86.org website, IS supported using xf86_svga: Trident 3DImage975 AGP (generic) ... XF86_SVGA Try selecting the above video card and see if it doesn't work. John = __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] Netscape - Locking Up and Self-terminating - How to prevent?
Sorry to butt in here butt, what are those 3 different Netscape files that you gotta download, common, and the other 2? Do they do it tat way so it is not one long download? On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, you wrote: On Fri, 29 Oct 1999, you wrote: Thanks John... So when you say "don't install the tarball version", are you referring to the version that was installed by Mandrake6.1? Secondly, where does one find the Mandrake RPM version? NoI mean the one you can download from Netscape. The one from Mandrake should be available from ftp://ftp.linux-mandrake.com You'll have to search around, but you'll need at least the "netscape-common" rpm and your choice of "Navigator" or "Communicator." John -- Vic Student Of Linux
Re: [newbie] Re: your mail
On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: well they DONT need a statuc ip that is for sure. I dont have one :) I use dynip, which will automagicly post your dynamic IP to the major DNS servers. www.dynip.com On Sun, Oct 31, 1999 at 09:43:22PM -0800, Chip Wiegand wrote: I am interested in this also. I have apache installed and it does run. I can connect to my pages from any pc in my home network. The next part is this - How do we (I) get to our pages from the outside world? Don't we need a connection to the internet, other than through an isp? When a friend of mine tried to ping my ip address it wouldn't work, my isp has a firewall and I have a firewall. Well, both of you are going to need to allow incoming connections on port 80 on your firewalls. Next, you'll want to contact your ISP about getting a static IP and a domain name else you'll be stuck using IP numbers to contact your system. On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Oct 31, 1999 at 03:35:22PM -0800, Dreja Julag wrote: Hello all! I am wondering if I can create a web server of my own with my linux box for my friends and neighbors. I think it sounds like a cool experiment, but I don't know where to start. Thanks for the help. I know, I could probably look to a howto, but they are not the friendliest little creatures in the world. Install the apache package. Start the server with: /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd start Put the documents you wish to publish into /home/httpd/html. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] External ISDN TA
John Aldrich wrote: On Sat, 30 Oct 1999, you wrote: %_Hi all! I'm having trouble setting up my ISDN Terminal Adapter so I can connect to the net . I did a search and found isdn4linux but from what I understand that only works with internal TA's. I have an external TA, a ZyXel omni.net plus. Any ideas? /LasseLu Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: Please ditch the HTML posting. It doesn't look NEARLY as nice in HTML-ignorant email clients like mine. :-) Second, I just went to Zyxel's web page and took a look at that system. They say it works under "Unix" (Linux should work as well then.) See if they have a version of their software for Linux. Also, I'd suggest since you went with a serial-based ISDN T/A, that you invest in a serial port capable of 256k/sec in order to get full capability out of your T/A. If all else fails, open up a Minicom session and see if you can talk to the machine directly that way. The nice thing about MY ISDN T/A is that it's ethernet based and I can just telnet to it to set it up. :-) Finally, if all else fails, hook it up to a Windows box, set it up that way and then plug it back into your Linux box. You should probably (just guessing here) pretend that it's a standard analog modem as far as PPP is concerned. Good luck! John I have an Motorola BitSurfer Pro (external ISDN) and it works great with the KPPP dialer. just treat it as a regular serial modem and all should be well. -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Trouble Compiling Network Driver
On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: try this: 1) tail tulip.c you will see the compiler command right thier for you, cut/paste it and see what happens. should look like this: gcc -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/net/inet -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O6 -c tulip.c `[ -f /usr/include/linux/modversions.h ] echo -DMODVERSIONS` the above is one line. also, the above works fine for me with the tulip.c on the mandrake distro and the one from the web (on the nasa site) I've been having a very hard time compiling the driver for my Ethernet card. My computer is a dual boot setup with Windows 98 and Linux Mandrake 6.1. I have the Cox@home cable Internet service, and a SOHOware NDC 10/100 Fast Ethernet PCI card. The card includes the "tulip" driver for Linux on the install disk, but neither that version, nor any of the others I have found on the Net will compile. I have used many different command lines, including exact copies from the tulip source code. and from various Web pages and How-To's. The main error message I get is: tulip.c :101: warning : *warning You must compile this file with the correct options! tulip.c :102 : warning : *warning See the last lines of the source file. tulip.c :103 : warning : *warning You must compile this driver with "-O". Depending on what arguments I put on the command line, I will also get an error message from gcc saying that "-O is an unrecognized option." (!!) I'm not a complete newbie to Linux, but I don't know very much about the technical side. I finally learned how to set-up a PPP dial-up connection in Linux, but this Ethernet thing is driving me crazy. eth0 is not a "known device" to the kernel, so I assume I have to add tulip as a module, or recompile the kernel with it. I know that tulip is listed as a driver option in Linuxconf, but its not in /lib/modules, or anywhere else that I can find. During the Mandrake installation, it autodetected the network card, but it fails to initialize it on starting up the system - always the same message about the "unknown device." Can anybody help? By the way, I have tried -O option with both O (upper and lower case letter) and 0 (numeral zero). Thanks, Torrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Wierd TCSH thing...
Hello, I don't know if this is something I'm doing or if it is a quirk of the 6.5 distribution but whenever I start a session of TCSH I get this error... [bgarel@gulp bgarel]$ tcsh limit: coredumpsize: Can't set limit [bgarel@gulp ~]$ Now I may just be incredibly stupid here expecting tcsh to work properly right from the installation but Help??? Brian
Re: [newbie] Clean uninstall
Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Karen M. Heiby wrote: Hi, answers to the questions follow within the text: On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Axalon wrote: On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Karen M. Heiby wrote: [snip] Ok first off, if you allow it to format the drive during install it's gone, not sorta gone but gone, it would cost big money to retieve even a small piece... I tell it to format my Linux native partition but I swear it's keeping stuff. unless mkfs is erroring dureing format (check tty5) it's eraseing it all [snip] /etc/rc.d/init.d/amd status says what? If automount is trying to mount something it can't it's gonna take awhile to time out. gmc has a feature (pretty sure this is in KFM also) that will show "the size" of the directories, if this is on and you have a recent harddrive (eg, BIG) it's going to take awhile It isn't trying to mount anything, I unmounted everything I could before I issued the command. Yes, but what you do and what amd does are different things, was that you saying it's not installed or not running then? Do the gears spin, does the mouse (or anything "freeze"), which viewmode.. html, long, text..? The "gears" spin just a little at first. It freezes with a black screen, shows the terminal a couple times, then just black screen again for about a couple of hours with just a blip or so of hard drive activity every couple minutes. I mean a blip, like a fraction of a second. as root, /etc/rc.d/init.d/amd stop /etc/rc.d/init.d/netfs stop as user, startx # Does it function correctly now? as your user, mv ~/.kde ~/kde.broke cp -r /etc/skel/.kde ~/ startx # Does it function correctly now? as user, rm -rf /tmp/kfm_* rm -rf /tmp/kio_* startx # Does it function correctly now? Are you root when trying to change /dev/* file permissions? Yes, I am root. I *can* change the permissions in everything *but* KFM. And in KFM anywhere but /dev ? GAIM (AOL Instant Messenger clone) is retaining my contact list, when that should never happen if it were a clean install. This is not a problem, per se, but just an indicator that I still have old information from previous installations haunting which are likely the cause of my persistent problems. Knowing AOL they don't trust you to keep track of your Buddies, so they store it on the server.. No, this can't be the case. I also have Windows 98 and every time I reinstall AOL IM, I have to re-add buddies. This could be only for their external (from the aol software) version, i can't even make edjucated guess at what it does as we have no sourcecode. :/ I do see in the gaim Changelog insertion of a script to convert the buddy.lst into a gaimlist, aswell as references to implement it directly into the code, this may have been done already (if so shouldn't do it like it does so automagicly thats to much, some poor 13 year old is gonna get daddys porn mail or something silly), also as Bero said it may actualy store them remotely (haven't gotten to testing this yet) Gnome's "Settings" on the panel is kaput. I can click Gnome Control Center and get it running, but if I click anything else on the Panel under Settings, (Multimedia, Peripherals, etc. ) nothing happens. That's just a minor annoyance since I can use these from Gnome Control Center anyway, but annoying nonetheless. Any output on the terminal you started Xwindows on? No output, just nothing happens. Anyone else able to reproduce this one? During installation, I am never asked certain questions that I vaguely remember being asked the very first time I installed Linux, such as how much RAM do I have, etc. It seems to install as if it knows or thinks it's installing on top of another installation of itself. You were in expert mode, or it was an older version that didn't detect your video card so it had to ask. No, I installed it the first time in regular mode; since then I have been using expert mode. I have always been using the same version of Mandrake (6.1 which I got on October 4). What gets me is that after I tried Route #1(above), by filling up my hard drive, I should have written over anything hard drive clusters that had Linux in them at one time, right? Even the boot record was re-made with a new LILO. How come old Linux glitches are still haunting me? Why is my GAIM contact list still intact when it shouldn't be? I dunno wish all my personal stuff came back after a format, save me lots of time ;) Well, that would be nice, too, but the thing is my /home directories are totally cleanly installed (DOH!!) It's like Murphy's Law or something!! ;-) Definatly something, you didn't buy the pc used did ya it is halloween ;) I really want to cleanly install Linux to solve some of my problems and give me peace
Re: [newbie] Blocking @HOME with ipchains - Can they tell?
From: Ronald A. Yacketta I used @home for nearly 6 months in hotlanta. I use/used isinglass (ipchains firewal) and fwtk to block 99.9% of the crap I dont want (which included @home garbage collection) they (I presume) never knew seeing they never mentioned anything to me. I am currently do the same thing with roadrunner. Ron "Eric L. Damron" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/30/99 03:36:23 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Ronald A. Yacketta/958157/EKC) Subject: [newbie] Blocking @HOME with ipchains - Can they tell? I got tired of @HOME running scans on my system so I blocked them with: ipchains -I input -p TCP -s 24.4.254.140 -d 0/0 80 -j DENY -l ipchains -I input -p TCP -s 24.4.254.141 -d 0/0 80 -j DENY -l Can they tell that they're blocked or does it just look like I'm not running any services? Thanks.
Re: [newbie] Setting up sn ISP
From: Ronald A. Yacketta question... are you getting your own dedicated connection to the net like a T1/T3 etc..?? or are you useing a ISP yourself and then selling a service (like a ISP) to others? if your doing the latrer, might want to get some legal advice I doubt your ISP would like you makeing money off them "Rlongo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/30/99 06:51:59 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Ronald A. Yacketta/958157/EKC) Subject: [newbie] Setting up sn ISP Hi I'm Rob, New to the list and using Linux, what's up dudes! Power to the Penguin!!!? I guess =)I'm lookin for some straight forward step-by-step information on how to setup an ISP. I have been reading all the How-Tos that came with my distro but I'm getting really frustrated at how they all say goto this How-To or this How-to while your in the middle of reading one How-To. Is there any site or really good book out there that can help me out. Any Ideas? TIA - Peace Rob Longo
Re: [newbie] frontpage98
From: Ronald A. Yacketta yeppers :) if you have the fp98 dis the server extensions for appache should be on it. if not head over to microsucks and pick them up Jeremy Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/31/99 07:53:10 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Ronald A. Yacketta/958157/EKC) Subject: [newbie] frontpage98 hello all, is there a program like frontpage98 for Linux?
[newbie] Upgrading to Netscape 4.7 using Linuxupdate
Using Linuxupdate (KDE) to upgrade my Mandrake Linux. When I try upgrading from Netscape 4.61 to Netscape 4.7 I get the following error message: "Compat-libs is needed by Netscape-4.70-1mdk" What does the above message mean and how can I correct this? What is Compat-libs and where do you get it and how? Thanks, Barrett
Re: [newbie] Setting up sn ISP
Rob From what I have seen with the HOWTOs there is no straight forward answer. You have to dig and dig. or just ask someone that has the info and has done it a few times! First you need a few things. (and I am going by memory) You need the DNS addresses of your IP You need to know what kinda Authentication Protocal they use. and the phone number and all that silly stuff they send when you sign up and they ask you what kinda system you have. Once there you will start the Kppp or ppp or whatever you are using as a ppp dialer. click setup click new this is where you edit your ISP info. under the IP tab you will put your ISPs IP addresses they gave you. just kinda look through the rest and fill in what you do know. you will also have a PAP or CHAP option... I used WinPINGPro to get all my info from the ISP here and just plugged in the numbers dialed out and it worked. Jess ___ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.
RE: [newbie] executing programs
chmod +x filename -Original Message- From: M L Cates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 2:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] executing programs I am trying to learn how to do some C programming and my question is this: How do I execute the program after it is compiled? I have tried typing the name of the program in at the prompt and it says "command not found". I have tried to type "sh" before the filename and am told "cannot execute binary file". Any help would be appreciated, also, what does the "sh" before a filename do? M L Cates
Re: [newbie] Clean uninstall
Karenif you're formatting all of your linux partitions when you install, then that's a clean install. I believe that GAIM stores your contact list info on a web server, not on your local file system. Alan "Karen M. Heiby" wrote: I would like to know how to cleanly uninstall Linux. I'm having peculiar problems that I think can only be fixed with a clean install. Here's what I've tried *several times over* but still does not work: 1.) Deleting the Linux partition from Windows a.) (In Windows 98) filling up my hard drive with junk--totally, then deleting the junk (just to make sure anything of Linux that might still be there is overwritten) b.) scandisk (Windows 98) and defrag (Windows 98) or c.) formatting the entire hard drive (with DOS "fdisk") and reinstalling Windows 98, repartitioning it for Linux (Partition Magic) and then reinstalling Linux 2.) Going into Linux as root, going to /, and typing the rm -fr /* command, which a.) gets stuck even if I wait a couple hours, I don't see anything happening. 3.) Going into runlevel 3 as root, going to /, and deleting each directory individually with "rm -fr nameofdirectory" a.) (However: I can't delete /proc b.) and I can't delete /lib) then, c.) I boot to DOS with a disk and using "fdisk \mbr" to delete LILO d.) I reinstall Linux All three methods fail to get rid of my problems. For ex., KDE freezes when I use KFM to browse the /mnt directory. No other file managers (Gnome, KDE file manager, or any terminal) freeze, and it is not a permissions problem. It's just KFM/KDE! When I click the /dev directory in KFM and look at its permissions properties, the text (User, Group, Other) is grayed out but the checkboxes are nonfunctional but the proper permissions are assigned. Same goes for everything else in /dev. I can use chmod or any other file manager to modify permissions and have done so. GAIM (AOL Instant Messenger clone) is retaining my contact list, when that should never happen if it were a clean install. This is not a problem, per se, but just an indicator that I still have old information from previous installations haunting which are likely the cause of my persistent problems. Gnome's "Settings" on the panel is kaput. I can click Gnome Control Center and get it running, but if I click anything else on the Panel under Settings, (Multimedia, Peripherals, etc. ) nothing happens. That's just a minor annoyance since I can use these from Gnome Control Center anyway, but annoying nonetheless. During installation, I am never asked certain questions that I vaguely remember being asked the very first time I installed Linux, such as how much RAM do I have, etc. It seems to install as if it knows or thinks it's installing on top of another installation of itself. What gets me is that after I tried Route #1(above), by filling up my hard drive, I should have written over anything hard drive clusters that had Linux in them at one time, right? Even the boot record was re-made with a new LILO. How come old Linux glitches are still haunting me? Why is my GAIM contact list still intact when it shouldn't be? I really want to cleanly install Linux to solve some of my problems and give me peace of mind and solid footing for more learning, but I have a problem doing so when I know this machine isn't as pure as I'd like it to be. That is, when something goes wrong, how do I know whether I'm doing something wrong or if it's just a bad installation? That's tough on a newbie. Any ideas would be helpful. Thanks, Karen
Re: [newbie] Clean uninstall
KarenAxalon is doing a good job here so I won't interfere, but you need to know this so you'll let go of it as a reason that you must not be getting a clean install. The following is from the QA section of the GAIM home page: Q. Where the heck is my buddy list stored? It gets erased sometimes. A. Currently, your buddy list is stored on AOL's servers. Zilding is considering an option of storing buddy lists locally and will more than likely implement something fairly soon. Alan "Karen M. Heiby" wrote: Hi, answers to the questions follow within the text: On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, you wrote: On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Karen M. Heiby wrote: I would like to know how to cleanly uninstall Linux. I'm having peculiar problems that I think can only be fixed with a clean install. Here's what I've tried *several times over* but still does not work: 1.) Deleting the Linux partition from Windows a.) (In Windows 98) filling up my hard drive with junk--totally, then deleting the junk (just to make sure anything of Linux that might still be there is overwritten) b.) scandisk (Windows 98) and defrag (Windows 98) or c.) formatting the entire hard drive (with DOS "fdisk") and reinstalling Windows 98, repartitioning it for Linux (Partition Magic) and then reinstalling Linux 2.) Going into Linux as root, going to /, and typing the rm -fr /* command, which a.) gets stuck even if I wait a couple hours, I don't see anything happening. 3.) Going into runlevel 3 as root, going to /, and deleting each directory individually with "rm -fr nameofdirectory" a.) (However: I can't delete /proc b.) and I can't delete /lib) then, c.) I boot to DOS with a disk and using "fdisk \mbr" to delete LILO d.) I reinstall Linux Ok first off, if you allow it to format the drive during install it's gone, not sorta gone but gone, it would cost big money to retieve even a small piece... I tell it to format my Linux native partition but I swear it's keeping stuff. All three methods fail to get rid of my problems. For ex., KDE freezes when I use KFM to browse the /mnt directory. No other file managers (Gnome, KDE file manager, or any terminal) freeze, and it is not a permissions problem. It's just KFM/KDE! When I click the /dev directory in KFM and look at its permissions properties, the text (User, Group, Other) is grayed out but the checkboxes are nonfunctional but the proper permissions are assigned. Same goes for everything else in /dev. I can use chmod or any other file manager to modify permissions and have done so. /etc/rc.d/init.d/amd status says what? If automount is trying to mount something it can't it's gonna take awhile to time out. gmc has a feature (pretty sure this is in KFM also) that will show "the size" of the directories, if this is on and you have a recent harddrive (eg, BIG) it's going to take awhile It isn't trying to mount anything, I unmounted everything I could before I issued the command. Do the gears spin, does the mouse (or anything "freeze"), which viewmode.. html, long, text..? The "gears" spin just a little at first. It freezes with a black screen, shows the terminal a couple times, then just black screen again for about a couple of hours with just a blip or so of hard drive activity every couple minutes. I mean a blip, like a fraction of a second. Are you root when trying to change /dev/* file permissions? Yes, I am root. I *can* change the permissions in everything *but* KFM. GAIM (AOL Instant Messenger clone) is retaining my contact list, when that should never happen if it were a clean install. This is not a problem, per se, but just an indicator that I still have old information from previous installations haunting which are likely the cause of my persistent problems. Knowing AOL they don't trust you to keep track of your Buddies, so they store it on the server.. No, this can't be the case. I also have Windows 98 and every time I reinstall AOL IM, I have to re-add buddies. Gnome's "Settings" on the panel is kaput. I can click Gnome Control Center and get it running, but if I click anything else on the Panel under Settings, (Multimedia, Peripherals, etc. ) nothing happens. That's just a minor annoyance since I can use these from Gnome Control Center anyway, but annoying nonetheless. Any output on the terminal you started Xwindows on? No output, just nothing happens. During installation, I am never asked certain questions that I vaguely remember being asked the very first time I installed Linux, such as how much RAM do I have, etc. It seems to install as if it knows or thinks it's installing on top of another installation of itself. You were in expert mode, or it was an older
Re: [newbie] Which server and OS is your site running on?
www.winfiles.com runs on Apache 1.3.6 on Solaris. "-) Matt From: Benjamin Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Helios-New [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Which server and OS is your site running on? Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:14:23 -0600 Dear friends: The answer is right here below: http://www.netcraft.com/whats/ Type: www.hotmail.com and see for yourself which server and OS Microsoft is using to run their 50-million user Hotmail service. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
[newbie] Monitor and Video Card configuation problems...
No matter what I try, I am unable to get linux configured for my Video card and Monitor. If anyone has any suggestions, I would be glad to hear them. I have tried to include as much information as possilble below. Product: Macmillan Mandrake Deluxe Linux Operating System 6.5 Computer: Homebuilt PC CPU: AMD K6-2 450 MHz RAM: 64 MB SDRAM Hard Drives: 8.4Gb FAT32 partition Win98 2.1Gb Linux Partition - Mandrake 6.5 Video Card: SIS 6326 3D Pro AGP 8 Mb Video Ram Monitor: GVC 1448L 14" Multisync/Multiscan Maximum Resolution 1024 X 768 Horizontal Scan: 30-50 Khz Vertical Scan: 50-90 Hz Bandwidth: 65 MHz Monitor data retrieved from: http://www.monitorsolution.com/Monitorsdata/GVC-MaxTech/GVCMa01.html Gary W. Clark Northeastern Counseling Center POB 1908 Vernal UT 84078 435-789-6326 Office 435-789-6325 Fax mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] executing programs
sh is the common execution syntax used to execute a shell script, not a C program. Shell scripts are text based programs similar to DOS batch files, which accounts for your 'cannot execute binary file' message. The syntax Mike has provided here allow all users to execute all programs including compiled C programs, if you want to allow only yourself or your group execution rights, you will need to alter the +x. - Original Message - From: Morrell, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 4:32 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] executing programs chmod +x filename -Original Message- From: M L Cates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 2:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] executing programs I am trying to learn how to do some C programming and my question is this: How do I execute the program after it is compiled? I have tried typing the name of the program in at the prompt and it says "command not found". I have tried to type "sh" before the filename and am told "cannot execute binary file". Any help would be appreciated, also, what does the "sh" before a filename do? M L Cates
[newbie] Installed 6.1 - KDE has GNOME menus
I just installed Mandrake Power Pack 6.1 last night on a fresh system and when I boot into KDE, it has the KDE look, the KDE taskbars and such but Gnome menus!! How did this happen and how can I fix it? Sam Gentile Principle Software Engineer/Team Leader - Viridien Team
[newbie] adjust Dbl-click ?
I have some disability with my fingers (among other things). Dbl-clk in all KDE apps is OK, but Nutscrape is terrible and StarOffice isn't much better. They require me to dbl-clk faster than I usually can. Is there a way to adjust the dbl-clk speed? either in all apps or in NS and SO ? -- TIA, .. Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [newbie] Setting up sn ISP
On Sat, 30 Oct 1999, Rlongo wrote: information on how to setup an ISP. I have been reading all the How-Tos that came with my distro but I'm getting really frustrated at how they all say goto this How-To or this How-to while your in the middle of reading one How-To. Is there any site or really good book out there that can help me out. Any Ideas? Well an ISP is a fairly costly and complex thing to setup. What did you intend on using Linux-Mandrake for (mail, web or everything?). If you intend on using Linux for your core components (ie. you have a few cisco routers for internet access and some terminal servers (like a PM3)), then you should probably look at having a single NFS server with some kind of software or hardware RAID (depending on your budget), a radius server, mail server, web and ftp server (scalable depending on your immediate needs). You may also want to look at a proxy server (use Squid). If you plan on using Linux for everything (if you plan on being a succesful mid-sized ISP I'd recommend you get yourself some Lucent PM3s and a Cisco 7508 and probably a cisco catalyst 2900 (min)). If you have money to burn look at www.alteon.com or www.foundry.net and try deploying a multiple-server multi-purpose load balanced environment, such that each server may run web, ftp and mail and be load balanced in case one server falls. To go back to basics :) The minimum you will need is a web server, ftp server, mail server, radius server and a box to provide network monitoring features (ie. monitor you routers, terminal servers and linux boxes and page/email/notify the administrator if one breaks) :) You should also be aware that while you can get WAN interface cards that will work under Linux a lot of the major backbone providers (such as UUnet/Alternet) require you to have a cisco router, I think for a T3 they require a 7000 series router (if i remember right) :) Hope that helps. oh if you are looking for a good set of books, look at O'Reilly, probably Linux administrator, Linux Network Administrator, NFS and NIS, Sendmail, Learning Perl and learn how to use ipchains :) You may also want to look at securityfocus.org on a regular basis. You should also be pretty familar with IP, especially TCP/UDP, maybe Cisco IOS would be a good thing to learn :), and maybe you should look at some of the books from Cisco press, there is a good one of Advanced Network Design (IP) if you are planning on building a large ISP (now or in the future), it will help you design a fairly decent scalable network. Regards John I.Buswell Development Engineer MandrakeSoft
Re: [newbie] Terminals
On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, you wrote: terminal is one of my important tool,since i still using Mutt, Pine, Vim, Lynx and BitchX the problem is, all of those terminal could not support color for Lynx except Kvt. i dont know how to solve that problem. i though it must be the environtment setting with Bash, so i put export COLORBGFG="default;default" to my .bashrc but it doesnt solve the problem. i would realy appreciated if someone could tell me how to make it. BTW, Aterm and Eterm wont be transparent in KDE too. and i dont know why I use Konsole here for all my command-line apps, and I have color *shrug* John
RE: [newbie] problems mounting floppy
On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, you wrote: Two quick questions on the mounting of removable storage media. In the case of floppies, or Zip disks, where you might use both ext2 and vfat filesystems, is there any way of having a single icon, or rather a single mount command so that it can mount both types? I have seen the 'auto' used in fstab as the filesystem type. What does auto mean in this context? It should auto-detect. At least that's been my experience. John
RE: [newbie] Time settings !
On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, you wrote: This all seems well and good but I seem to have another problem. The time setting is correct but it continually shows the wrong time zone. It is showing MST and it should be PST. How do I change the time zone. I have tried various permutations of including the 'PST' string inside my command to date to change the time but the best it does is keep the MST and set the clock one hour later than the time I input. type "man date" and pay particular attention to the %Z option. :-)
Re: [newbie] Clean uninstall
On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: I would like to know how to cleanly uninstall Linux. I'm having peculiar problems that I think can only be fixed with a clean install. try "fdisk /mbr" to remove LILO from the master boot record. Then, you should be ready to do a clean install, although just selecting "new" from the install menu and formatting all partitions SHOULD be sufficient. John
Re: [newbie] frontpage98
On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, you wrote: hello all, is there a program like frontpage98 for Linux? Not AFAIK. However, you CAN run the frontpage server extensions on an Apache web server. :-) John
Re: [newbie] Re: your mail
On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: I am interested in this also. I have apache installed and it does run. I can connect to my pages from any pc in my home network. The next part is this - How do we (I) get to our pages from the outside world? Don't we need a connection to the internet, other than through an isp? When a friend of mine tried to ping my ip address it wouldn't work, my isp has a firewall and I have a firewall. chip Try opening up port 80 in your firewall, or, alternatively use your firewall to translate all port 80 requests to another port, such as 8080 orsomething. :-) John
Re: [newbie] linux games, and Matrox m3D
On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, you wrote: Aldrich I'm going to have to give up this video card and get a 3d card, Anyone know where I can find information on setting up a Matrox m3D under Linux? Have you looked at www.xfree86.org/cardlist.html to make sure it's supported? If it is, then it should just be a matter of making sure the X server YOU have supports it. If it doesn't, you will need to either upgrade your entire Linux install (somewhat of a waste G) or just upgrade the X server to the latest version. (MUCH more efficient G) John
Re: [newbie] Time settings !
On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, you wrote: In KDE, right? Your kernel time may be unchanged. Type Umm...nope. From a console prompt. :-) in a terminal and see what you get. If you don't like what you see, the following command will set the kernel time: date -s hh:mm:ss That's the hard way... "rdate -sp time.nist.gov" as root from a console prompt to synch your time with the atomic clock in Colorado. Then, "hwclock --systohc" will synch the on-board hardware clock to your "software" clock. :-) I typically do this between 3-4 times a week and daily. :-) John
Re: [newbie] Setting up sn ISP
John Buswell wrote: On Sat, 30 Oct 1999, Rlongo wrote: information on how to setup an ISP. I have been reading all the How-Tos that came with my distro but I'm getting really frustrated at how they all say goto this How-To or this How-to while your in the middle of reading one How-To. Is there any site or really good book out there that can help me out. Any Ideas? Well an ISP is a fairly costly and complex thing to setup. What did you intend on using Linux-Mandrake for (mail, web or everything?). If you intend on using Linux for your core components (ie. you have a few cisco routers for internet access and some terminal servers (like a PM3)), then you should probably look at having a single NFS server with some kind of software or hardware RAID (depending on your budget), a radius server, mail server, web and ftp server (scalable depending on your immediate needs). You may also want to look at a proxy server (use Squid). If you plan on using Linux for everything (if you plan on being a succesful mid-sized ISP I'd recommend you get yourself some Lucent PM3s and a Cisco 7508 and probably a cisco catalyst 2900 (min)). If you have money to burn look at www.alteon.com or www.foundry.net and try deploying a multiple-server multi-purpose load balanced environment, such that each server may run web, ftp and mail and be load balanced in case one server falls. To go back to basics :) The minimum you will need is a web server, ftp server, mail server, radius server and a box to provide network monitoring features (ie. monitor you routers, terminal servers and linux boxes and page/email/notify the administrator if one breaks) :) You should also be aware that while you can get WAN interface cards that will work under Linux a lot of the major backbone providers (such as UUnet/Alternet) require you to have a cisco router, I think for a T3 they require a 7000 series router (if i remember right) :) Hope that helps. oh if you are looking for a good set of books, look at O'Reilly, probably Linux administrator, Linux Network Administrator, NFS and NIS, Sendmail, Learning Perl and learn how to use ipchains :) You may also want to look at securityfocus.org on a regular basis. You should also be pretty familar with IP, especially TCP/UDP, maybe Cisco IOS would be a good thing to learn :), and maybe you should look at some of the books from Cisco press, there is a good one of Advanced Network Design (IP) if you are planning on building a large ISP (now or in the future), it will help you design a fairly decent scalable network. Regards John I.Buswell Development Engineer MandrakeSoft Nice write-up John. I too was looking for such information but wasn't in the market yet, thanks. -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] SQL systems comparison?
For doing a pretty large databased web site for a college department (with all the cool stuff in PHP), which would people recommend I use: PostreSQL or MySQL? I've noticed that a lot of the PHP packages I'm looking at seem to favor MySQL, but PostgreSQL is getting more support these days. Should I just read through their respective documentations and figure it out for myself, or does anyone have a recommendation, or are there any good comparisons of them on the net? Damien Mc Kenna Keene State College, BSc Computer Science Student http://www.mckenna.brinet.net/[EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ 17066133
[newbie] no route to host
I am running 6.1 with enlightenment 16 and gnome 1.53. but when connected with KPPP more often than not I get " No route to host" time oue errors. some web sites and ftp sites work some do not, and some do some of the time but not 5 mins later. My hosts file is as such: search btinternet.com nameserver 194.73.73.95 nameserver 194.7373.94 So the DNS servers as far as I can see are set up OK. KPPP only repeats the same DNS searvers and comments out those there by default. Anyone have any ideas? Dave
Re: [Re: [newbie] Clean uninstall]
Something else to try is to BOOT from the CD _ONLY_ if possible...if you are booting from a floppy...it may have install info listed in the Kernal. Just trying to help...:) Jaguar Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: KarenAxalon is doing a good job here so I won't interfere, but you need to know this so you'll let go of it as a reason that you must not be getting a clean install. The following is from the QA section of the GAIM home page: Q. Where the heck is my buddy list stored? It gets erased sometimes. A. Currently, your buddy list is stored on AOL's servers. Zilding is considering an option of storing buddy lists locally and will more than likely implement something fairly soon. Alan "Karen M. Heiby" wrote: Hi, answers to the questions follow within the text: On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, you wrote: On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Karen M. Heiby wrote: I would like to know how to cleanly uninstall Linux. I'm having peculiar problems that I think can only be fixed with a clean install. Here's what I've tried *several times over* but still does not work: 1.) Deleting the Linux partition from Windows a.) (In Windows 98) filling up my hard drive with junk--totally, then deleting the junk (just to make sure anything of Linux that might still be there is overwritten) b.) scandisk (Windows 98) and defrag (Windows 98) or c.) formatting the entire hard drive (with DOS "fdisk") and reinstalling Windows 98, repartitioning it for Linux (Partition Magic) and then reinstalling Linux 2.) Going into Linux as root, going to /, and typing the rm -fr /* command, which a.) gets stuck even if I wait a couple hours, I don't see anything happening. 3.) Going into runlevel 3 as root, going to /, and deleting each directory individually with "rm -fr nameofdirectory" a.) (However: I can't delete /proc b.) and I can't delete /lib) then, c.) I boot to DOS with a disk and using "fdisk \mbr" to delete LILO d.) I reinstall Linux Ok first off, if you allow it to format the drive during install it's gone, not sorta gone but gone, it would cost big money to retieve even a small piece... I tell it to format my Linux native partition but I swear it's keeping stuff. All three methods fail to get rid of my problems. For ex., KDE freezes when I use KFM to browse the /mnt directory. No other file managers (Gnome, KDE file manager, or any terminal) freeze, and it is not a permissions problem. It's just KFM/KDE! When I click the /dev directory in KFM and look at its permissions properties, the text (User, Group, Other) is grayed out but the checkboxes are nonfunctional but the proper permissions are assigned. Same goes for everything else in /dev. I can use chmod or any other file manager to modify permissions and have done so. /etc/rc.d/init.d/amd status says what? If automount is trying to mount something it can't it's gonna take awhile to time out. gmc has a feature (pretty sure this is in KFM also) that will show "the size" of the directories, if this is on and you have a recent harddrive (eg, BIG) it's going to take awhile It isn't trying to mount anything, I unmounted everything I could before I issued the command. Do the gears spin, does the mouse (or anything "freeze"), which viewmode.. html, long, text..? The "gears" spin just a little at first. It freezes with a black screen, shows the terminal a couple times, then just black screen again for about a couple of hours with just a blip or so of hard drive activity every couple minutes. I mean a blip, like a fraction of a second. Are you root when trying to change /dev/* file permissions? Yes, I am root. I *can* change the permissions in everything *but* KFM. GAIM (AOL Instant Messenger clone) is retaining my contact list, when that should never happen if it were a clean install. This is not a problem, per se, but just an indicator that I still have old information from previous installations haunting which are likely the cause of my persistent problems. Knowing AOL they don't trust you to keep track of your Buddies, so they store it on the server.. No, this can't be the case. I also have Windows 98 and every time I reinstall AOL IM, I have to re-add buddies. Gnome's "Settings" on the panel is kaput. I can click Gnome Control Center and get it running, but if I click anything else on the Panel under Settings, (Multimedia, Peripherals, etc. ) nothing happens. That's just a minor annoyance since I can use these from Gnome Control Center anyway, but annoying nonetheless. Any output on the terminal you started Xwindows on? No output, just nothing happens.
Re: [newbie] Clean uninstall
All righty! :-) Thanks for finding out for me. I had thought in the beginning, AOL's server might keep my buddy list, and thought "nahhh"! I guess they do!! Karen Alan Shoemaker wrote: KarenAxalon is doing a good job here so I won't interfere, but you need to know this so you'll let go of it as a reason that you must not be getting a clean install. The following is from the QA section of the GAIM home page: Q. Where the heck is my buddy list stored? It gets erased sometimes. A. Currently, your buddy list is stored on AOL's servers. Zilding is considering an option of storing buddy lists locally and will more than likely implement something fairly soon. Alan "Karen M. Heiby" wrote: Hi, answers to the questions follow within the text: On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, you wrote: On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Karen M. Heiby wrote: I would like to know how to cleanly uninstall Linux. I'm having peculiar problems that I think can only be fixed with a clean install. Here's what I've tried *several times over* but still does not work: 1.) Deleting the Linux partition from Windows a.) (In Windows 98) filling up my hard drive with junk--totally, then deleting the junk (just to make sure anything of Linux that might still be there is overwritten) b.) scandisk (Windows 98) and defrag (Windows 98) or c.) formatting the entire hard drive (with DOS "fdisk") and reinstalling Windows 98, repartitioning it for Linux (Partition Magic) and then reinstalling Linux 2.) Going into Linux as root, going to /, and typing the rm -fr /* command, which a.) gets stuck even if I wait a couple hours, I don't see anything happening. 3.) Going into runlevel 3 as root, going to /, and deleting each directory individually with "rm -fr nameofdirectory" a.) (However: I can't delete /proc b.) and I can't delete /lib) then, c.) I boot to DOS with a disk and using "fdisk \mbr" to delete LILO d.) I reinstall Linux Ok first off, if you allow it to format the drive during install it's gone, not sorta gone but gone, it would cost big money to retieve even a small piece... I tell it to format my Linux native partition but I swear it's keeping stuff. All three methods fail to get rid of my problems. For ex., KDE freezes when I use KFM to browse the /mnt directory. No other file managers (Gnome, KDE file manager, or any terminal) freeze, and it is not a permissions problem. It's just KFM/KDE! When I click the /dev directory in KFM and look at its permissions properties, the text (User, Group, Other) is grayed out but the checkboxes are nonfunctional but the proper permissions are assigned. Same goes for everything else in /dev. I can use chmod or any other file manager to modify permissions and have done so. /etc/rc.d/init.d/amd status says what? If automount is trying to mount something it can't it's gonna take awhile to time out. gmc has a feature (pretty sure this is in KFM also) that will show "the size" of the directories, if this is on and you have a recent harddrive (eg, BIG) it's going to take awhile It isn't trying to mount anything, I unmounted everything I could before I issued the command. Do the gears spin, does the mouse (or anything "freeze"), which viewmode.. html, long, text..? The "gears" spin just a little at first. It freezes with a black screen, shows the terminal a couple times, then just black screen again for about a couple of hours with just a blip or so of hard drive activity every couple minutes. I mean a blip, like a fraction of a second. Are you root when trying to change /dev/* file permissions? Yes, I am root. I *can* change the permissions in everything *but* KFM. GAIM (AOL Instant Messenger clone) is retaining my contact list, when that should never happen if it were a clean install. This is not a problem, per se, but just an indicator that I still have old information from previous installations haunting which are likely the cause of my persistent problems. Knowing AOL they don't trust you to keep track of your Buddies, so they store it on the server.. No, this can't be the case. I also have Windows 98 and every time I reinstall AOL IM, I have to re-add buddies. Gnome's "Settings" on the panel is kaput. I can click Gnome Control Center and get it running, but if I click anything else on the Panel under Settings, (Multimedia, Peripherals, etc. ) nothing happens. That's just a minor annoyance since I can use these from Gnome Control Center anyway, but annoying nonetheless. Any output on the terminal you started Xwindows on? No output, just nothing happens. During installation, I am never asked certain
Re: [newbie] Want to create more than one Linux partition with Disk Druid
On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: Hi, I followed the Ebooks instructions for partitioning in Disk Druid so I could make a separate partition for /home. I chose my native partition which was 5GB and deleted it, and tried adding two partitions--one 2GB, one 1.5GB (allowing for lots of extra room, even) one "native" mounting at / and one "native" mounting at /home. But as soon as I add the second partition it tells me it was not allocated, not enough room. I figure I must be doing something wrong. Any advice? What about swap space? Also, you need to leave a bit of room for "overhead." Linux reserves a few k of each meg for "bad spots" which may crop up later and uses that to fix itself as needed. I'm *guessing* you didn't tell Linux to make the /home on an "extended" partition, did you??? John
Re: [newbie] no route to host
Sorry was rushing out the message and didn't notice the HTML formatting was turned on. - Original Message - From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Paul Flint [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] no route to host On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: I am running 6.1 with enlightenment 16 and gnome 1.53. but when connected with KPPP more often than not I get " No route to host" time oue errors. some web sites and ftp sites work some do not, and some do some of the time but not 5 mins later. My hosts file is as such: search btinternet.com nameserver 194.73.73.95 nameserver 194.7373.94 So the DNS servers as far as I can see are set up OK. KPPP only repeats the same DNS searvers and comments out those there by default. Anyone have any ideas? Dave Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: Please ditch the HTML. It's VERY difficult for me to read your tiny type, especially since my mail client doesn't care much for HTML! :-) Plus, it's a HUGE waste of bandwidth. The Mandrake lists are almost exclusively plain-text. You'll get a LOT more help and sympathy if you drop the html in favor of plain text! Thanks... John
[newbie] Compiling C++ programs
Hi. I'm new to Linux and C++... (what a dangerous combination!), but I have not been able to figure out how to complie and link my rookie programs... can someone please point me in the right direction. Thanks, David
Re: [newbie] Trouble installing/configuring X/video card
I have a monitor manual with all the spec such as horizontal and vertical range, but Xconfigurator doesn't allow manual input the range. Unless, I am missing something. --- John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: I also have problem installing/configure X/video card. Total Newbie. Linux-Mandrake 6.1, AMD 333MHz, 64MB Video Trident 3DImage 975 (generic) Monitor CyberVision C-70 Was able to select video card but unable to set up monitor Cybervision. Try custom, every possible combination there was there as far as horizontal selection and vertical selection, still not working for X-window. I can't find any way to type in the range per monitor manual. Please help. Hmmdo you know the settings for the monitor You can always go back to Xconfigurator and do it that way, now that you know to use Trident 3DImage for your video card. John = __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
[newbie] Resolv.conf
Been forced to send this msg under the other OS, since kppp is misbehaving. I had one of those misconfigurations of etc/resolv.conf -- although I am not sure how that happened to begin with, since I haven't fooled with it lately -- that have been mentiond in the list so often. As root, I wrote the 2 DNS nameservers to resolv.conf. As user, I use kppp, log in fine, but can't use any app since they can't find the server. Log out, go check resolv.conf and it is entirely empty! Any suggestions? Because I can't really deal with Outlook Express much longer. ;-) Thank you, /Gustavo.
[newbie] Mandrake Update not working
I select all of the updates and click "GO". I get the explanations for each update, click "OK". I enter my root password and click "OK". I get the "Please wait..." dialog box for a split second, then it disappears. It isn't updating anything. Any help would be appreciated. Karen
Re: [newbie] adjust Dbl-click ?
Tom Brinkman wrote: I have some disability with my fingers (among other things). Dbl-clk in all KDE apps is OK, but Nutscrape is terrible and StarOffice isn't much better. They require me to dbl-clk faster than I usually can. Is there a way to adjust the dbl-clk speed? either in all apps or in NS and SO ? -- TIA, .. Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED] . Tomtry right-clicking whatever it is you want to double-click and then chose the top most choice wich is either open or open message. Alan
Re: [newbie] RealplayerG2 - Why Does It Stop After A Few Seconds?
On Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 10:54:38AM -0800, Sevatio Octavio wrote: I'm using Mandrake6.1 with the G2realplayer (also with licensed OSS driver). Here's the problem: Whenever I use the G2player, it would only play for a few seconds and then it would be silent. At the same time it goes silent, the timer on G2player goes really slow and erratic. Not only does the G2player go silent but so does all other audio applications like the MP3 players. Even "soundoff" and then "soundon" does not remedy the situation. The only way so far is to do a reboot. Has anyone had similar experiences or suggestions? You're going to have to ask Real Networks or 4Front about those problems. They don't provide source, so we can't really see what's causing the problem. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] packages
Hi, I uninstalled Mandrake Update because of the problem I had. I'd like to reinstall it--can someone give me the name of the package on my first CD? Here's another question: When I use Kpackage to find a file, I get two errors: Kprocess error: Can't start dpkg Kprocess error: Cann't start kiss Thanks, Karen
Re: [newbie] Who's been logging in?
On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: not sure about a log to tell you what they did (except for maybe looking at thier .history file??) but you could dod a last username and that would show you when that user logged in last. Is there a log, or is there a way to create one, that shows who has logged into my machine, when and what they did? Thanks, -- Ty Mixon e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 26147713
Re: [newbie] Want to create more than one Linux partition with Disk Druid
What about swap space? Also, you need to leave a bit of room for "overhead." Linux reserves a few k of each meg for "bad spots" which may crop up later and uses that to fix itself as needed. I'm *guessing* you didn't tell Linux to make the /home on an "extended" partition, did you??? John Of course, I know about having to have a swap partition and I'm not having a problem with that. It's only 128Mb. I deleted a 5GB partition and tried to make one 2 GB and one 1.5 GB partition which only totals 3.5GB. That would leave 1.5GB for Linux to use to reserve space for the bad spots you mention, wouldn't it? I don't think the Disk Druid (used during Mandrake installation) asked me whether i wanted the partitions to be extended or primary. It just asks if I want "native", "swap" "DOS" etc. But then I'm all confused anyway. I know fdisk (Linux) asks that, but I didn't use that. ;-) Karen On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: Hi, I followed the Ebooks instructions for partitioning in Disk Druid so I could make a separate partition for /home. I chose my native partition which was 5GB and deleted it, and tried adding two partitions--one 2GB, one 1.5GB (allowing for lots of extra room, even) one "native" mounting at / and one "native" mounting at /home. But as soon as I add the second partition it tells me it was not allocated, not enough room. I figure I must be doing something wrong. Any advice?
Re: [newbie] Setting up sn ISP
Don't forget DNS "Joseph S. Gardner" wrote: John Buswell wrote: On Sat, 30 Oct 1999, Rlongo wrote: information on how to setup an ISP. I have been reading all the How-Tos that came with my distro but I'm getting really frustrated at how they all say goto this How-To or this How-to while your in the middle of reading one How-To. Is there any site or really good book out there that can help me out. Any Ideas? Well an ISP is a fairly costly and complex thing to setup. What did you intend on using Linux-Mandrake for (mail, web or everything?). If you intend on using Linux for your core components (ie. you have a few cisco routers for internet access and some terminal servers (like a PM3)), then you should probably look at having a single NFS server with some kind of software or hardware RAID (depending on your budget), a radius server, mail server, web and ftp server (scalable depending on your immediate needs). You may also want to look at a proxy server (use Squid). If you plan on using Linux for everything (if you plan on being a succesful mid-sized ISP I'd recommend you get yourself some Lucent PM3s and a Cisco 7508 and probably a cisco catalyst 2900 (min)). If you have money to burn look at www.alteon.com or www.foundry.net and try deploying a multiple-server multi-purpose load balanced environment, such that each server may run web, ftp and mail and be load balanced in case one server falls. To go back to basics :) The minimum you will need is a web server, ftp server, mail server, radius server and a box to provide network monitoring features (ie. monitor you routers, terminal servers and linux boxes and page/email/notify the administrator if one breaks) :) You should also be aware that while you can get WAN interface cards that will work under Linux a lot of the major backbone providers (such as UUnet/Alternet) require you to have a cisco router, I think for a T3 they require a 7000 series router (if i remember right) :) Hope that helps. oh if you are looking for a good set of books, look at O'Reilly, probably Linux administrator, Linux Network Administrator, NFS and NIS, Sendmail, Learning Perl and learn how to use ipchains :) You may also want to look at securityfocus.org on a regular basis. You should also be pretty familar with IP, especially TCP/UDP, maybe Cisco IOS would be a good thing to learn :), and maybe you should look at some of the books from Cisco press, there is a good one of Advanced Network Design (IP) if you are planning on building a large ISP (now or in the future), it will help you design a fairly decent scalable network. Regards John I.Buswell Development Engineer MandrakeSoft Nice write-up John. I too was looking for such information but wasn't in the market yet, thanks. -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Procmail
Hey all I was wondering if anyone had any procmail experience. I want to write a simple procmail 'recipe' that would bounce mail from certain addresses rather than just move them to /dev/null I would like to have a little text message ready on my ISP's server to be sent to anyones address who spams me. Also I would like this little message to be sent only to the spammers address and not to a mailer daemon so to prevent mail loops. Thanx -- Vic Student Of Linux
RE: [newbie] Segmentation Faults?
= Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] = On Sun, Oct 31, 1999 at 07:20:47PM -0500, Clyde J. Kell wrote: Help, Whenever I try to run a particular program I receive an: Segmentation Fault core dumped What program? Seti@Home here's the download page: http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/unix.html Then when I try to do anything else I receive: unable to load interpreter init: Id "3" respawning too fast disabled for 5 minutes What did you edit in /etc/inittab? Nothing!! I did a complete re-installation from a Mandrake 6.0 CD. Any ideas on what the inittab should display? Tough to tell with the limited information you provided. Post more info and we'll probably be able to help. Steve, Since posting my last msg, I've conducted a little experiment. It seems like my other applications, the things provided with the CD, and StarOffice, and one or two others downloaded appear to work just fine. The machine stayed up all night Sunday night, running KDE, and the built in screen saver. However SAT night I tried to run the Setiathome client software in background mode as normal but from Console mode. The system crashed over night, with segmentation faults, and a kernel panic. This machine and Mandrake just doesn't seem to like Setiathome. I find this very bothersome. Because I like to participate in distributed data processing projects, and if Mankdrake can't handle Setiathome... Well what other applications will it have problems with. Of course I'm still not ruleing out the possibility of my Motherboard giving me problems. Regards, Clyde J. Kell
Re: [newbie] Netscape - Locking Up and Self-terminating - How toprevent?
On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 03:38:05PM -0500, John Aldrich wrote: On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: Sorry to butt in here butt, what are those 3 different Netscape files that you gotta download, common, and the other 2? Do they do it tat way so it is not one long download? Don't know why they did it that way. I assume you're correct in the assumption that they did it that way to reduce the download time and to make it more "modular." You download two of the three for a complete install download the "common" RPM and either the "communicator" or the "navigator" depending on which you want. They did it that way so I could build nice kiosk's with a web browser interface without having to worry about little fingers sending mail or glancing at the porn in alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.* Seriously, for a stand-alone information station, it's an ideal solution. Start X without a window manager, put "exec netscape -geometry 1024x768" into ~/.Xclients, and away you go! Now if I could just figure out a way to disallow the use of "file://" URLs, I'd be all set! BTW, a neat trick I picked up from a budding "cracker" at work: (I chastised him severely for the action, but you gotta love his spirit!) We completely lock down the factory floor workstations running Win95 using a product called WinLock95. There's nothing runnable on that machine outside the data entry application they need and IE4 for their quality manuals. I felt pretty comfortable with the situation. Wrong! IE gives you the ability to browse the network by just punching in the domain (e.g. \\GRAND_RAPIDS). Surf to your hearts content. Read whatever you'd like. BAH!!! Guess i shouldn't tell you you can excecute things from the address bar also. huh We've since removed IE. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
[newbie] mandrake secure server
I got the Macmillian version of Mandrake linux w/ secure server. I've installed linux and the secure server package that is located on the 3rd cdrom disc. I can create a key but when I go to set up the certificate request, the program tells me it can't find a file called "ssleay.cnf". I checked the rpm package for secure server and that file does not exist in there nor does the manual talk about installing it or creating it. Are there other packages that I need to install and why doesn't Macmillian or Mandrake include it in there cdrom. Thank you Damian Fuentes Technical Support 714-579-3000 x251 www.midcom.com
Re: [newbie] Networking - Home Lan -- HELP
On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, you wrote: Okay, looks like the driver is bad. There was another message on the list saying that there is a known problem with the shipped driver and the SOHOware card. Check the archives at the Mandrake website for resolution. That fixed it. Thanks -- I owe you a beer, if you are ever in Central NJ, let me know, so I can buy you one -- Alex
Re: [newbie] Trouble installing/configuring X/video card
On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: I have a monitor manual with all the spec such as horizontal and vertical range, but Xconfigurator doesn't allow manual input the range. Unless, I am missing something. What about xf86config? xf86setup??? I think xf86config will let you put in the infohaven't used it nearly as much as xf86setup, though... :-) John
Re: [newbie] Want to create more than one Linux partition with DiskDruid
On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, John Aldrich wrote: On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: Hi, I followed the Ebooks instructions for partitioning in Disk Druid so I could make a separate partition for /home. I chose my native partition which was 5GB and deleted it, and tried adding two partitions--one 2GB, one 1.5GB (allowing for lots of extra room, even) one "native" mounting at / and one "native" mounting at /home. But as soon as I add the second partition it tells me it was not allocated, not enough room. I figure I must be doing something wrong. Any advice? What about swap space? Also, you need to leave a bit of room for "overhead." Linux reserves a few k of each meg for "bad spots" which may crop up later and uses that to fix itself as needed. I'm *guessing* you didn't tell Linux to make the /home on an "extended" partition, did you??? John And the problem with that is? All my Linux partitions lie within and extended partition, which has caused absolutely no problem with SuSE 6.2, or Mandrake 6.0/6.1. Furthermore MDK 6.1 is an upgrade, as opposed to a fresh install. /b Barry Marler Department of Medical Microbiology and Parasitology University of Georgia (706)542-0742 (706)542-0059 (fax)
[newbie] Multiple ethernet cards
I am attempting to set up a server using ip masq connecting a mixed linux/win 98 and nt network to a cable modem. The system works using Win2000 as server, but I have been unable to get linux to recognize more than one of the ethernet cards. The system is a AMD K6-2 350 with 64 MB of RAM, the cable modem is connected to a 3c509b, and local network is connected to a Genius (Realtek) card. Upon setup the realtek driver is loaded as eth0 (found by the system PCI probe). I have attempted to setup the 3c509b with a line in lilo.conf, listing IRQ and address, without success. I have also tried listing the card in the networking section of linuxconf with the same information, also without success. How can I get linux to recognize and load both cards? -- James Mellema, CRNA MA - The idea that an arbitrary naive human should be able to properly use a given tool without training or understanding is even more wrong for computing than it is for other tools (e.g. automobiles, airplanes, guns or power saws). (Thanks to Mike Marion - Unix SysAdmin/Engineer, Qualcomm Inc.)
Re: [newbie] Time settings !
On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, John Aldrich wrote: On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, you wrote: In KDE, right? Your kernel time may be unchanged. Type Umm...nope. From a console prompt. :-) Though one might think otherwise from reading postings to this list, there are alternatives to the console other then KDE. /b Barry Marler Department of Medical Microbiology and Parasitology University of Georgia (706)542-0742 (706)542-0059 (fax)
[newbie] shockwave
Hello all! I am a bit new, just as a warning... I downloaded and installed a netsacape version - the only version available - from the linux-mandrake ftp, and i also downloaded shockwave from the maker's sitte. The problem I encounter is that it doesn't work! I installed it correctly, yet netscape comes up with some error. Could I not have the glibc version of netscape? Thanks Drew Jackman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 20177604
Re: [newbie] OT Freeware Partition Magic Boot Magic?
Go to my address below and there you'll find a version of partition magic El dom, 31 oct 1999, escribiste: Hi All! I hope someone can lend me some advice. I am currently running Ranish Partition/Boot manager 2.37.12. I am going to upgrade my 1.6Gb hard drive to 18Gb, but the Ranish Partition Manager does not support drives larger than 8 Gb. The 2.38 beta version of Ranish Partition/boot manager supports drives larger than 8GB but only supports 4 bootable partitions. I am looking for a freeware partition/boot manager than can: 1) support up to 10 bootable partitions 2) support hard drives larger than 8Gb 3) support DOS16, Linux native, and Linux Swap Anyone know of any freeware programs that fit the qualifications? My wife had been extremely generous lately and I don't want to push it by purchasing the shrink-wrapped version of PowerQuest Partition Magic for $60+. Thanks very much, Matt __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Guillermo Belli Registered Linux User #131340 http://sites.netscape.net/memo81 (under construction)
Re: [newbie] no route to host
On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: Sorry was rushing out the message and didn't notice the HTML formatting was turned on. No sweat... :-) Now, for the "no route to host" question try opening up a window and typing "nslookup hostname" next time you get that "no route to host" error and see if you get that information. What it SOUNDS like is a "ghost" connection where the modem is still connected, but the tcp/ip traffic is dead. What would cause that, I don't know. I seem to recall reading some criticism awhile back about British Telecom (your ISP.) Is it possible they are having network time-out problems or their name servers aren't responding? One way to test this out is to try to ping a host that is DEFINITELY outside of the BT network. There's a nifty little utility I came across awhile back and that my boss swears by nowadays for diagnosing network problems (and it's come in handy more than once for allowing me to tell customers that the reason they can't get to a certain site is that sites along the route, OUTSIDE our network are having problems... G) The util is called MTR, which stands for Matt's TraceRoute. It's a combination of ping and traceroute in one, and it's supported by KDE in the Network Utilities panel (K - Internet - Network Utilities) If you search for it on Linuxberg, you'll find it under Console-monitoring. Or, the home page for that util is http://www.bitwizard.nl/mtr/. John
Re: [newbie] Compiling C++ programs
On Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 05:28:58PM -0500, David Smith wrote: Hi. I'm new to Linux and C++... (what a dangerous combination!), but I have not been able to figure out how to complie and link my rookie programs... can someone please point me in the right direction. g++ -o output_name source_name ./output_name -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Compiling C++ programs
On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: Hi. I'm new to Linux and C++... (what a dangerous combination!), but I have not been able to figure out how to complie and link my rookie programs... can someone please point me in the right direction. Did you install the GCC++ stuff? Generally if you install the Kernel Development packages, that should just about cover it. I did a "kitchen sink" install, installing everything but the foreign-language "how-to" files. Here's what's installed on my system with c++ as part of the package name: libstdc++-2.9.0-3mdk pgcc-c++-1.1.3-3mdk libstdc++-devel-1.1.3-3mdk And I'm sure there's more. These days, I think (Mandrake 6.1) you're back to GCC++. John
Re: [newbie] Resolv.conf
On Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 08:35:32PM -0200, Gustavo Viola wrote: Been forced to send this msg under the other OS, since kppp is misbehaving. I had one of those misconfigurations of etc/resolv.conf -- although I am not sure how that happened to begin with, since I haven't fooled with it lately -- that have been mentiond in the list so often. As root, I wrote the 2 DNS nameservers to resolv.conf. As user, I use kppp, log in fine, but can't use any app since they can't find the server. Log out, go check resolv.conf and it is entirely empty! Any suggestions? Because I can't really deal with Outlook Express much longer. ;-) Thank you, Make sure that you don't set the option in KPPP to "use these DNS servers". If you do, KPPP will "append" it's information to your resolv.conf and just bring heartache and trouble. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Resolv.conf
On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: Been forced to send this msg under the other OS, since kppp is misbehaving. I had one of those misconfigurations of etc/resolv.conf -- although I am not sure how that happened to begin with, since I haven't fooled with it lately -- that have been mentiond in the list so often. As root, I wrote the 2 DNS nameservers to resolv.conf. As user, I use kppp, log in fine, but can't use any app since they can't find the server. Log out, go check resolv.conf and it is entirely empty! Any suggestions? Because I can't really deal with Outlook Express much longer. ;-) Thank you, As root, open a console window, call up your favorite console-mode editor and retype your resolv.conf, making sure it's named in all lowercase letters (i.e. "resolv.conf" instead of "Resolv.conf") Here's the permissions on my resolv.conf which works perfectly: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root As you can see it's owned by user "root" and group "root." Also, ONLY root can write to it, but any user can READ it. John
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update not working
"Karen M. Heiby" wrote: I select all of the updates and click "GO". I get the explanations for each update, click "OK". I enter my root password and click "OK". I get the "Please wait..." dialog box for a split second, then it disappears. It isn't updating anything. Any help would be appreciated. Karen I don't know if this will help or not but I find the same thing until I actually logged in as root. Then it worked fine. Barrett
Re: [newbie] Who's been logging in?
On Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 09:54:17PM +, Ty C. Mixon wrote: Is there a log, or is there a way to create one, that shows who has logged into my machine, when and what they did? The 'last' command will show you a list of who's logged into the machine and the timespan. For "what they did", it depends upon how much you trust your users. If they're fairly naive, and you don't believe they're consciously TRYING to avoid being seen, then you can use ~/.bash_history to see what the user has done. If you don't trust 'em any further than you can throw 'em, you'll want to install the psacct package and look into the monitoring that it can provide. I don't run any Linux machines that allow interactive logins for anyone but the administrator, so I couldn't tell you how well the package works. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Clean uninstall
On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: unless mkfs is erroring dureing format (check tty5) it's eraseing it all Sorry but I'm too much of a newbie to know how to check tty5 just yet... Is this something I should do now, or something I do during a format, and how do I check it? ;-) alt+F5 key during the format. I have another question... Bear with me because I'm coming at you from a Windows 98 background ;-) But when I'm re-installing, it doesn't seem to matter whether I tell it to format the native partitions or not. Either way it gets rid of my /home directory and replaces it with a new one. Is this normal? Being a Windows user, I am accustomed to thinking that re-installing without reformatting should preserve most user settings. At the end of my re-install, I re-add the subordinate username and its password and find that nothing is left in my /home/username folder anymore. Just wondering! If you don't have /home on a separate partition, it WILL delete your /home directory when you reformat it. Also, if you DON'T reformat (are you absolutely sure you didn't say format???) it shouldn't affect the home directories. John
Re: [newbie] SQL systems comparison?
On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: On Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 02:40:03PM -0500, Damien Mc Kenna wrote: For doing a pretty large databased web site for a college department (with all the cool stuff in PHP), which would people recommend I use: PostreSQL or MySQL? I've noticed that a lot of the PHP packages I'm looking at seem to favor MySQL, but PostgreSQL is getting more support these days. Should I just read through their respective documentations and figure it out for myself, or does anyone have a recommendation, or are there any good comparisons of them on the net? I'm rather partial to MySQL, but only because it seemed easier to deal with to me. PostgreSQL seems to do alot of things _outside_ the database, rather than dealing with them inside normal tables. Some of the decision will depend on what sorts of things you need to do with the database. I know that MySQL doesn't handle straight transactions, nor can it do table or row locking. I don't recall whether PostgreSQL handles those normally. I do know there was a rather lengthy discussion about this very topic on Slashdot awhile ago. You might try there. http://slashdot.org Try Sybase... :-) It rocks!!! At the ISP where I work, we are hosting the FIRST authorized electronic check conversion system (authorized by the Feds and by the banking industry!) and it has a HUGE database, and is being run off a couple Sybase servers. :-) John
Re: [newbie] Procmail
On Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 01:44:35PM -0600, Vic wrote: Hey all I was wondering if anyone had any procmail experience. I want to write a simple procmail 'recipe' that would bounce mail from certain addresses rather than just move them to /dev/null You can't bounce mail from procmail. It's too late. Bouncing is done by the mail transfer agent. The best you could do is resend the message with your text attached, but that would probably require a bit more than a procmail recipe. I would like to have a little text message ready on my ISP's server to be sent to anyones address who spams me. Is this procmail recipe installed on their server? Also I would like this little message to be sent only to the spammers address and not to a mailer daemon so to prevent mail loops. Good luck! How many of these spam addresses do you really think are real? I know if _I_ were going to spam, I'd make sure that replies went straight to someone else's bit-bucket. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Want to create more than one Linux partition with Disk Druid
On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: Of course, I know about having to have a swap partition and I'm not having a problem with that. It's only 128Mb. I deleted a 5GB partition and tried to make one 2 GB and one 1.5 GB partition which only totals 3.5GB. That would leave 1.5GB for Linux to use to reserve space for the bad spots you mention, wouldn't it? I don't think the Disk Druid (used during Mandrake installation) asked me whether i wanted the partitions to be extended or primary. It just asks if I want "native", "swap" "DOS" etc. But then I'm all confused anyway. I know fdisk (Linux) asks that, but I didn't use that. ;-) Wierd...I'm not a big fan of Disk Druid. :-) Try Fdisk. It's MUCH easier to make partitions of the proper type. :-) Plus, I don't THINK it'll give you those nasty "not enough space" errors. :-) John
[newbie] Inet problems
Greetings, I am running Mandrake 6.1 in a predominately solaris 2.6 network, and am having trouble ftp'ing and telneting to my system. I can use these services to get to other hosts, but am unable to get into my own system from any other workstation. I have checked the /etc/inetd.conf, and it has the telnet and ftp services activated. Anyone seen this before? Thanks in advance, Todd White
Re: [newbie] Time settings !
On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, John Aldrich wrote: On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, you wrote: In KDE, right? Your kernel time may be unchanged. Type Umm...nope. From a console prompt. :-) Though one might think otherwise from reading postings to this list, there are alternatives to the console other then KDE. Hehe... :-) True. I'm tempted to try Enlightenment on my system at work (RH 6) if I can upgrade it... :-) John
Re: [newbie] Want to create more than one Linux partition with Disk Druid
On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: And the problem with that is? All my Linux partitions lie within and extended partition, which has caused absolutely no problem with SuSE 6.2, or Mandrake 6.0/6.1. Furthermore MDK 6.1 is an upgrade, as opposed to a fresh install. Were you the original querant? I don't think so IIRC, the original person stated that they had tried formatting the hard drives and were losing their /home partition. Thus, it couldn't have been an "upgrade" install. :-) John
Re: [newbie] shockwave
On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: Hello all! I am a bit new, just as a warning... I downloaded and installed a netsacape version - the only version available - from the linux-mandrake ftp, and i also downloaded shockwave from the maker's sitte. The problem I encounter is that it doesn't work! I installed it correctly, yet netscape comes up with some error. Could I not have the glibc version of netscape? Where did you install Shockwave? IIRC, it needs to go in /usr/lib/netscape/plugins. John
Re: [newbie] Inet problems
On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: Greetings, I am running Mandrake 6.1 in a predominately solaris 2.6 network, and am having trouble ftp'ing and telneting to my system. I can use these services to get to other hosts, but am unable to get into my own system from any other workstation. I have checked the /etc/inetd.conf, and it has the telnet and ftp services activated. Anyone seen this before? Did you install the telnet server package? As for FTP, I've no idea IIRC, Mandrake requires a separate Telnet Server package, which is not installed during the initial installation. John
Re: [newbie] Trouble installing/configuring X/video card
John Aldrich wrote: On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: I have a monitor manual with all the spec such as horizontal and vertical range, but Xconfigurator doesn't allow manual input the range. Unless, I am missing something. What about xf86config? xf86setup??? I think xf86config will let you put in the infohaven't used it nearly as much as xf86setup, though... :-) xf86config allows it, as does xf86setup. Xconfigurator wraps a "comfy" interface around the configuration process and limits you to, what, 4 choices?? -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] Segmentation Faults?
On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: I find this very bothersome. Because I like to participate in distributed data processing projects, and if Mankdrake can't handle Setiathome... Well what other applications will it have problems with. Of course I'm still not ruleing out the possibility of my Motherboard giving me problems. Must be a hardware or config issue, 'cause I"m running SETI@HOME and two instances of RC5DES distributed client, under Mandrake 6.0 and my system is ROCK solid, other than being a bit sluggish. If I overlook the sluggishness, I can even run normal X-apps with those three things running in the background in Konsole windows. :-) John
Re: [newbie] Netscape - Locking Up and Self-terminating - How to prevent?
John Aldrich wrote: On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: BTW, a neat trick I picked up from a budding "cracker" at work: (I chastised him severely for the action, but you gotta love his spirit!) We completely lock down the factory floor workstations running Win95 using a product called WinLock95. There's nothing runnable on that machine outside the data entry application they need and IE4 for their quality manuals. I felt pretty comfortable with the situation. Wrong! IE gives you the ability to browse the network by just punching in the domain (e.g. \\GRAND_RAPIDS). Surf to your hearts content. Read whatever you'd like. BAH!!! We've since removed IE. Don't you just LOVE "Uncle Bill" ;-) More and more everyday... :) -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Multiple ethernet cards
On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: I am attempting to set up a server using ip masq connecting a mixed linux/win 98 and nt network to a cable modem. The system works using Win2000 as server, but I have been unable to get linux to recognize more than one of the ethernet cards. The system is a AMD K6-2 350 with 64 MB of RAM, the cable modem is connected to a 3c509b, and local network is connected to a Genius (Realtek) card. Upon setup the realtek driver is loaded as eth0 (found by the system PCI probe). I have attempted to setup the 3c509b with a line in lilo.conf, listing IRQ and address, without success. I have also tried listing the card in the networking section of linuxconf with the same information, also without success. How can I get linux to recognize and load both cards? I think there MAY be newer drivers for the 3Com, Or, you may need to boot to DOS and use the 3Com setup util to make sure Plug -n- Pray is turned off on that card. John
Re: [newbie] Netscape - Locking Up and Self-terminating - How toprevent?
Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, a neat trick I picked up from a budding "cracker" at work: (I chastised him severely for the action, but you gotta love his spirit!) We completely lock down the factory floor workstations running Win95 using a product called WinLock95. There's nothing runnable on that machine outside the data entry application they need and IE4 for their quality manuals. I felt pretty comfortable with the situation. Wrong! IE gives you the ability to browse the network by just punching in the domain (e.g. \\GRAND_RAPIDS). Surf to your hearts content. Read whatever you'd like. BAH!!! Guess i shouldn't tell you you can excecute things from the address bar also. huh Well known. The other "fun trick" for these guys is playing with the clock. It seems there's no way to _display_ the clock without also allowing the ability to modify the system time on Win95/8. We caught it when we suddenly had around 600 units of inventory with an aging date of -31 days. Remind me again why I love this job? :) -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Procmail
Thanx for the info, yeah they have procmail and have showed me how to make it dump spam into /dev/null, so I theorised that I could alter that variable to make it do other things as well like return a message that looked like a 'bounce' in hopes that it would at least make it to the relay of the poor sap who fell prey to the spammer alerting her/him of a spam problem like to restrict their relay, but ideally it would get back to the postmaster or account of the spammer and they would regard my address as invalid. h, guess I need to do a little homework?? On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: On Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 01:44:35PM -0600, Vic wrote: Hey all I was wondering if anyone had any procmail experience. I want to write a simple procmail 'recipe' that would bounce mail from certain addresses rather than just move them to /dev/null You can't bounce mail from procmail. It's too late. Bouncing is done by the mail transfer agent. The best you could do is resend the message with your text attached, but that would probably require a bit more than a procmail recipe. I would like to have a little text message ready on my ISP's server to be sent to anyones address who spams me. Is this procmail recipe installed on their server? Also I would like this little message to be sent only to the spammers address and not to a mailer daemon so to prevent mail loops. Good luck! How many of these spam addresses do you really think are real? I know if _I_ were going to spam, I'd make sure that replies went straight to someone else's bit-bucket. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Vic Student Of Linux
Re: [newbie] SQL systems comparison?
John Aldrich wrote: On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: On Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 02:40:03PM -0500, Damien Mc Kenna wrote: For doing a pretty large databased web site for a college department (with all the cool stuff in PHP), which would people recommend I use: PostreSQL or MySQL? I've noticed that a lot of the PHP packages I'm looking at seem to favor MySQL, but PostgreSQL is getting more support these days. Should I just read through their respective documentations and figure it out for myself, or does anyone have a recommendation, or are there any good comparisons of them on the net? I'm rather partial to MySQL, but only because it seemed easier to deal with to me. PostgreSQL seems to do alot of things _outside_ the database, rather than dealing with them inside normal tables. Some of the decision will depend on what sorts of things you need to do with the database. I know that MySQL doesn't handle straight transactions, nor can it do table or row locking. I don't recall whether PostgreSQL handles those normally. I do know there was a rather lengthy discussion about this very topic on Slashdot awhile ago. You might try there. http://slashdot.org Try Sybase... :-) It rocks!!! At the ISP where I work, we are hosting the FIRST authorized electronic check conversion system (authorized by the Feds and by the banking industry!) and it has a HUGE database, and is being run off a couple Sybase servers. :-) What size servers? expected DB size? Anyone else tried Sybase? I'm always interested in fun new things to play with. I'm still waiting for an Oracle 8i CD to show up so I can "get smart" before we move to Oracle at work. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Segmentation Faults?
"Clyde J. Kell" wrote: = Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] = On Sun, Oct 31, 1999 at 07:20:47PM -0500, Clyde J. Kell wrote: Help, Whenever I try to run a particular program I receive an: Segmentation Fault core dumped What program? Seti@Home here's the download page: http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/unix.html Okay, that might explain some things. The seti@home client can be pretty processor intensive, and I've seen Windows users use it as a decent benchmark/burn-in tool when overclocking processors. Their reasoning is that if it survives seti@home, the machine will be fine for normal use. One thing I'm curious about... the memory in the new machine -- is it from the old machine? Maybe you need to adjust the waitstates in the BIOS to account for memory that's slower than it expects? Then when I try to do anything else I receive: unable to load interpreter init: Id "3" respawning too fast disabled for 5 minutes What did you edit in /etc/inittab? Nothing!! I did a complete re-installation from a Mandrake 6.0 CD. Any ideas on what the inittab should display? Another question -- does this occur only after you've had the segmentation fault above? Tough to tell with the limited information you provided. Post more info and we'll probably be able to help. Steve, Since posting my last msg, I've conducted a little experiment. It seems like my other applications, the things provided with the CD, and StarOffice, and one or two others downloaded appear to work just fine. The machine stayed up all night Sunday night, running KDE, and the built in screen saver. You'll find that the processor stays pretty quiet during these tasks. I'd expect probably 80% or higher idle. Linux will automatically call the HLT (is that correct?) instructions when it's idle, allowing the processor to slow and cool down. However SAT night I tried to run the Setiathome client software in background mode as normal but from Console mode. The system crashed over night, with segmentation faults, and a kernel panic. This machine and Mandrake just doesn't seem to like Setiathome. I find this very bothersome. Because I like to participate in distributed data processing projects, and if Mankdrake can't handle Setiathome... Well what other applications will it have problems with. Of course I'm still not ruleing out the possibility of my Motherboard giving me problems. I'd take a hard look at hardware on this one. Either the memory just isn't fast enough for the new board, or you've got dodgy cooling on the CPU. Hope these suggestions help, -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Upgrading to Netscape 4.7 using Linuxupdate
Barrett Powell écrivit : Using Linuxupdate (KDE) to upgrade my Mandrake Linux. When I try upgrading from Netscape 4.61 to Netscape 4.7 I get the following error message: "Compat-libs is needed by Netscape-4.70-1mdk" What does the above message mean and how can I correct this? What is Compat-libs and where do you get it and how? Hi, Install the package compat-glibc-5.3-2.0.7.1.i586.rpm (on your CD-ROM): as root, mount /mnt/cdrom ; rpm -ivh /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS/compat-glibc-5.3-2.0.7.1.i586.rpm ; umount /mnt/cdrom ; eject Regards, David BAUDENS -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --David
Re: [newbie] Netscape - Locking Up and Self-terminating - How to prevent?
John Aldrich écrivit : On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: Sorry to butt in here butt, what are those 3 different Netscape files that you gotta download, common, and the other 2? Do they do it tat way so it is not one long download? Don't know why they did it that way. I assume you're correct in the assumption that they did it that way to reduce the download time and to make it more "modular." You download two of the three for a complete install download the "common" RPM and either the "communicator" or the "navigator" depending on which you want. Hi, You also need the compat-glibc-5.3-2.0.7.1.i586.rpm package (very important for prevent Netscape crashes). Regards, David BAUDENS -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --David
Re: [newbie] packages
"Karen M. Heiby" wrote: Hi, I uninstalled Mandrake Update because of the problem I had. I'd like to reinstall it--can someone give me the name of the package on my first CD? Strangely enough, you'll find it as MandrakeUpdate :) -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] OT Freeware Partition Magic Boot Magic?
Guillermo Belli wrote: Go to my address below and there you'll find a version of partition magic I didn't realize that Powerquest had made a freely distributable version of Partition Magic. My wife had been extremely generous lately and I don't want to push it by purchasing the shrink-wrapped version of PowerQuest Partition Magic for $60+. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] packages
On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: "Karen M. Heiby" wrote: Hi, I uninstalled Mandrake Update because of the problem I had. I'd like to reinstall it--can someone give me the name of the package on my first CD? Here's another question: When I use Kpackage to find a file, I get two errors: Kprocess error: Can't start dpkg Kprocess error: Cann't start kiss Thanks, Karen If you wait a few seconds a box asking for root password will come up. After putting it in the blank space and clicking the appropriate button kpackage will install the RPM. Confused me the first few times also, but that's how it works -- I'm sorry, I'm not sure my question is understood. I can already get into kpackage. I am already to the point where I am in there with root privileges. When I click Find File and type in a file I want it to find, that's when I get the error. Was this what you are referring to? Thanks, Karen James Mellema, CRNA MA - The idea that an arbitrary naive human should be able to properly use a given tool without training or understanding is even more wrong for computing than it is for other tools (e.g. automobiles, airplanes, guns or power saws). (Thanks to Mike Marion - Unix SysAdmin/Engineer, Qualcomm Inc.)
Re: [newbie] packages
On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: "Karen M. Heiby" wrote: Hi, I uninstalled Mandrake Update because of the problem I had. I'd like to reinstall it--can someone give me the name of the package on my first CD? Strangely enough, you'll find it as MandrakeUpdate :) I looked for it on my CD and couldn't find it--after looking in the RPMS directory for ages! I found it on the Mandrake website, though, thanks anyway. Karen -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
