Re: [newbie] Yo

2000-08-26 Thread Goldenpi

Thats because people dont need a book to use windows.

- Original Message -
From: Mark Hillary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Yo


 Proof that linux has taken off it that I went into waterstones in Milton
Keynes
 (Book shop in engalnd) and they have started up a differnet shop for
computer
 book. There where more books based on linux, then window.

 I choose Linux because it is a changllane, take that away, then it is not
 linux.

 Mark Hillary

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08/25/2000 07:11:23 AM
 
  Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
   To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   cc:  (bcc: Lonny Selinger/SaskPower)
 
 
 
   Subject: Re: [newbie] Yo
 
 
  
   Jason Ashman wrote:
  
--
Hey Linux users.  I am a Microsoft convert, Windows SUCKS!
  
   With Linux you will spend more time trying to get things up and going
   than you ever would using windows.
   If you want to wast your hartbeats getting LINUX to do stuff that
   windows does right out of the box so be it.
 
  First off its heartbeats and yes you might end up spending more time
  configuring your machine...main point is YOU are configuring your
machine
  and not a sub standard non RFC following O/S.  I never once thought
Linux
  would be the "Windows" killer only becasue of a gret number of people
who
  just are not interested as much in computers and how why they work.  For
  those who *do* enjoy delving into their systems and having ALL the
control
  over how things are delegated on a machine Linux has been a dream come
true
  ... free *nix!!  Those who can ... do, those who can't either whine or
grab
  a spine and figure out why they can't, and rectify the problem with a
  solution either with help from others, or on their own. At one time I
  believed people who didn't *get* Linux and open source were just cattle
  running with the rest of the "well it works good enough for me" hurd ...
I
  admit thats shallow and rude...Linux just isn't for everyone ... too bad
we
  have to listen to them whine though  =o\  if you dont like the o/s and
want
  to complain ... maybe it would be better to join a Windows advocation
  mailing list and tell them...at least you might get some of the feed
back
  you are looking for =o)
  
   --
  
   Windows-Where Do You Want To Go Today!
   LINUX-Applications on linux just seem 2nd rate after using
   Windows, It's memory hungry and slow!
 
  Windows-Where Do You Want To Go Today!
  Linux  -Where Do You Want To Go Tomorrow!
  OpenBSD-Hey Are You Guys Coming Or What?
 
  I believe I have read this tag many ways but I like this one (even
though I
  do not have and BSD installs running at the moment)
 
  ;-)
 
  Lonny Selinger
  
  








Re: [newbie] Yo

2000-08-26 Thread Goldenpi

Good old dos, runs so well once you get the memory sorted. I still have a
lot of dos games. Even red alert will run under dos, so will warcraft 2.

- Original Message -
From: Jason Ashman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Yo


 On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, you wrote:
  Jason, not to be too personal, but if you can't get Linux to run faster,
  longer and do all this with less effort in Linux than Windows, you are
the
  one with the problem, not the O/S you're comparing.
 
  I would recommend a steady diet of intelligent, meaningful and thought
  provoking conversation, followed up with some IN DEPTH proof that you
have
  Linux experience, and then write something worth reading.
 
  I only use Windows (any flavor) because my company GAVE it to me and
their
  proprietary apps run only on it.  Otherwise, I use only software that
  someone can see where it's broke (i.e. open source software, and this
means
  free most of the time as well).

 This is Jason replyingI didn't write the below statement.  I would
NEVER
 EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVERdefend Microsoft products.  I used DOS until
last
 year when I relented and bought a Win 98 PC, needless to say Win 98 only
lasted
 one year for me.  Proof that when you make computers "userfriendly" you
make
 them less reliable.  And for the person who wrote that statement below,
try
 fixing a Windows problem in DOS and see how easy it is, since almost ALL
PC's
 don't come with DOS instructions!


  
   With Linux you will spend more time trying to get things up and going
   than you ever would using windows.
   If you want to wast your hartbeats getting LINUX to do stuff that
   windows does right out of the box so be it.






Re: [newbie] Yo

2000-08-26 Thread Goldenpi

Netscape always crashes, no matter what you run it under. The difference is
that in windows it takes everything else with it.

- Original Message -
From: Doug [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 3:39 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Yo




 Hugh wrote:

  And Doug you forgot to mention the pretty blue screens you get
  And all for free   NOT!   LOL

 Ya and Linux is crash free! NOT!
 Like sometimes when I use Netscape it will just crash and you got to click
 its icon to get it going again most of the
 time this will to work and you got to log out and back in again.

 Then there was the time when I Deleted a large file one my zip drive and
it
 made LINUX crash.

 On and on for desktop use Linux is no better than Windows.



 --

 Windows-Where Do You Want To Go Today!
 LINUX-Applications on linux just seem 2nd rate after using
 Windows, It's memory hungry and slow!
 *
 Doug
 Eldora,IA USA--Home Of The Bad Boys!
 Visit My Web Page At:
 http://home.earthlink.net/~neptuned/index.html
 http://hometown.aol.com/theneptune59/index.html
 E-Mail:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *
 MHS Class Of 78 Marshalltown High School-Marshalltown,IA USA
 *










Re: [newbie] WIll this thread end?? lol

2000-08-26 Thread Brendan K Callahan


 Wouldn't it be "cool" if we actually talked about something germane, and
 who knows, maybe even something adult-like.  This is not a chat group, and 
 I do not like wasting my time reading the above which has absolutely nothing 
 to do with this purpose of this group.
 
 Congrats guys - you have just entered my proc(tology) mail hall of fame. 

shrug 6 billion people in the world, and you don't like me.  What a loss. 
Guess I'll have to make do with the other 5,999,999,998.  

And before anyone says anything, that's 6x10^9 -1 (Gary), and -1 (myself).

 
 Gary
-- 
Brendan K Callahan, Grinnell, IA, US  K0EES, Extra Class License
http://www.mp3.com/darkmare_romeo
K0EES, Extra Class License dahdidah dahdahdahdahdah dit dit dididit




[newbie] Netscape launch for Pine users

2000-08-26 Thread Paul

Hi all,

I have come up with a really simple solution for something that bugged me
since some time.

When in Pine I hit a URL that I want to see, default behaviour is that
Pine runs Netscape. Okay by itself, but as long as netscape is running,
Pine is occupied in watching when it is finished. So while waiting for a
page to load I could not read mail.

I came up with this little workaround:

  #!/bin/sh
  /usr/bin/netscape-navigator -no-about-splash $1 

I call it 'netrun', and stuck it in my ~/bin directory (which is in my
personal path of course). Then I told Pine to run ~/bin/netrun as the
browser. And voila, no more problem, netrun launches netscape with the
URL, and then returns to Pine, fast as a flash :)

Perhaps someone now laughs and will tell me there's a much easier
solution, but I am glad I got this one going! Feel free to use it if you
like it. (Don't forget to chmod +x it.)

Paul

--
Don't sweat the petty things,
and don't pet the sweaty things.

)0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0(
http://nlpagan.net -  ICQ 147208
Registered  Linux  User   174403
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Re: [newbie] playing .wav sounds and .au sounds

2000-08-26 Thread Paul

On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, bascule wrote:

hi olly, i don't seem to have such a command, at least i did a find and
came up empty, is it a standard linux command?

bascule
 
 Like Paul says, I can play .au in a term by typing...play
 path/to/somesound.au...

Hi Bascule,

It has worked for me ever since I changed to Mandrake. It should be on
your system somewhere. I have tried to find what RPM it is in through
kpackage, but I could not find it. On my system it is in /usr/bin/play.

Paul

--
Don't sweat the petty things,
and don't pet the sweaty things.

)0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0(
http://nlpagan.net -  ICQ 147208
Registered  Linux  User   174403
-=PINE 4.21+Linux Mandrake 7.1=-





Re: [newbie] C compilers

2000-08-26 Thread Brendan K Callahan

Are there any graphical interfaces for the compiler?  I'm used to using
Borland Turbo C++ (v3.x and v4.x) for Windows.  More clearly defined, I like
having scrollable windows, multiple windows, the open file dialog and such. 
Anyone know anything?

 I use the compiler that comes with Mandrake which is also the same one in
 Redhat and the others. If it's C you're programming in invoke 'gcc', if
 you're doing C++ use 'g++'. Although actually either one will work for
 both C and C++. I've gotten some funny errors from gcc when compiling a
 C++ program. 

-- 
Brendan K Callahan, Grinnell, IA, US  K0EES, Extra Class License
http://www.mp3.com/darkmare_romeo
K0EES, Extra Class License dahdidah dahdahdahdahdah dit dit dididit




Re: [newbie] Yo

2000-08-26 Thread Brendan K Callahan


  By the way, I wouldn't brag about being from Iowa that much.  Flat,
  uninspiring, quiet, and not happening.
Right on the nose about Iowa, too.  But that's why I live here--got sick of the
city.

I didn't even notice he was from IA too, lol.  And he's not very far from me
either.

   Doug
   Eldora,IA USA--Home Of The Bad Boys!

-- 
Brendan K Callahan, Grinnell, IA, US  K0EES, Extra Class License
http://www.mp3.com/darkmare_romeo
K0EES, Extra Class License dahdidah dahdahdahdahdah dit dit dididit




Re: [newbie] Does Partition Magic 4.0 support the Type 5 extended partition?

2000-08-26 Thread Joan Tur

Romanator escribió:

 Hi,

 I'm in the process of partitioning while using Partition Magic. I noticed
 that there is only one extended partition.
 Is this type 5? I need to confirm this before go on to destroy the
 partition.

 Any thoughts?

 RB

Under Linux you can use fdisk either to know if it is type 5 or to change it
from type f (W2k extended partition type incompatible with, for instance,
w9x and os/2)...

--
Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Joan.Tur.pagina.de
Club.Ibosim.pagina.de







Re: [newbie] question on sort utility

2000-08-26 Thread Renaud OLGIATI

On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Has anyone has any problems with the sort utility ?  I just tried to
 sort a file of about 3,100,000 lines and discovered after the sort that
 about 1100 lines had been duplicated in the output file.  The sort utility
 under linux also does not behave the same as the solaris version [although
 the solaris version is also peculiar in other ways].

Try to use sort with the -u option; this should supress multiple identical
lines in the output.

Cheers,

Ron the Frog, on the banks of the Paraguay River.
-- 
 
   For every complex problem,
  there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong.
  -- H. L. Mencken
 
  ---  http://personales.conexion.com.py/~rolgiati  ---
 




Re: [Re: [newbie] Changing themes in enlightement]

2000-08-26 Thread Michael Scottaline

Andrew Scotchmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi
 If you have 3 button mouse here's how.
 Place the files in .enlightenment/themes in your home directory
 Then in enlightenment use the middle button and one of the options is 
 theme followed by a list of all your installed themes.
==
And, of course, if you don't have a three button mouse, but set your mouse up
for three button emulation, click on both buttons at the same time for the
same effect ;o)
Mike

"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
-Benjamin Frankilin


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RE: [newbie] C compilers

2000-08-26 Thread Mark Weaver

Practical C++ Programming
Steve Quilline
O'Reilly  Associates

Their C and C++ books are the absolute best I've ever seen.

-- 
Mark

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** _||_ in the making of this |
**  =\/=  message...| Registered Linux user #182496


On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, Michael Khachiki wrote:

 Hey I jus started too. I use KDevelop from xwindows. But you can use g++ or
 gcc.
 
 Dose any one know any good C++ books for Linux?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kathleen Dickason
 Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 9:07 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] C compilers
 
 
 Does anyone here use Linux to program in C?  I am just learning.  Which
 compiler do
 you use?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Kathleen
 
 
 
 
 





Re: [newbie] Does Partition Magic 4.0 support the Type 5 extendedpartition?

2000-08-26 Thread Mark Weaver

Um...yeah...why would you need to know the 'type'?

-- 
Mark

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**  =\/=  message...| Registered Linux user #182496


On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, Romanator wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I'm in the process of partitioning while using Partition Magic. I noticed
 that there is only one extended partition.
 Is this type 5? I need to confirm this before go on to destroy the
 partition.
 
 Any thoughts?
 
 RB
 
 
 





Re: [newbie] C compilers

2000-08-26 Thread Mark Weaver

I can answer that question with on word

Codewarrior

you'll never go back to Boreland again.  :)_

-- 
Mark

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** _||_ in the making of this |
**  =\/=  message...| Registered Linux user #182496


On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, Brendan K Callahan wrote:

 Are there any graphical interfaces for the compiler?  I'm used to using
 Borland Turbo C++ (v3.x and v4.x) for Windows.  More clearly defined, I like
 having scrollable windows, multiple windows, the open file dialog and such. 
 Anyone know anything?
 
  I use the compiler that comes with Mandrake which is also the same one in
  Redhat and the others. If it's C you're programming in invoke 'gcc', if
  you're doing C++ use 'g++'. Although actually either one will work for
  both C and C++. I've gotten some funny errors from gcc when compiling a
  C++ program. 
 
 





Re: [newbie] WIll this thread end?? lol

2000-08-26 Thread patrick darcy

Gary wrote:

  On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, "Dodo2" == Brendan K Callahan wrote:


   Dodo1 wouldnt it be cool if we could connect to our operating systems with
   Dodo1 just our minds :)

   Dodo1 now would that be easy or not

   Dodo2 Until WinTelePath locks up, and you're stuck until someone else
   Dodo2 comes along to give you the three finger salute--then again, could
   Dodo2 be easier than trying to find the right "driver" for your eyes
   Dodo2 under Linux :)

 Wouldn't it be "cool" if we actually talked about something germane, and
 who knows, maybe even something adult-like.  This is not a chat group, and
 I do not like wasting my time reading the above which has absolutely nothing
 to do with this purpose of this group.

 Congrats guys - you have just entered my proc(tology) mail hall of fame.

 Gary

ok, we'll be good at least for now :)








Re: [newbie] Yo

2000-08-26 Thread Mark Weaver

Umno one ever said apps like Netscape are crash free. They're refering
to the Operating System. And to tell you the truth you yourself said it,
that when something crashes bad where you might have to reboot the system
under windows, under Linux all that's needed is to exit and reenter
x-windows. If you ask me that a HELL of a lot easier and more convenient
then rebooting the entire system when something dies.

And I've been running Linux for almost two years now, and while Netscape
is 'somewhat' more stable under Linux, (not by much) I don't have the
software conflicts in Linux that are present and common in windows.

-- 
Mark

**  =/\=  No Penguins were harmed   | ICQ#27816299
** _||_ in the making of this |
**  =\/=  message...| Registered Linux user #182496


On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, Doug wrote:

 
 
 Hugh wrote:
 
  And Doug you forgot to mention the pretty blue screens you get
  And all for free   NOT!   LOL
 
 Ya and Linux is crash free! NOT!
 Like sometimes when I use Netscape it will just crash and you got to click
 its icon to get it going again most of the
 time this will to work and you got to log out and back in again.
 
 Then there was the time when I Deleted a large file one my zip drive and it
 made LINUX crash.
 
 On and on for desktop use Linux is no better than Windows.
 
 
 
 --
 
 Windows-Where Do You Want To Go Today!
 LINUX-Applications on linux just seem 2nd rate after using
 Windows, It's memory hungry and slow!
 *
 Doug
 Eldora,IA USA--Home Of The Bad Boys!
 Visit My Web Page At:
 http://home.earthlink.net/~neptuned/index.html
 http://hometown.aol.com/theneptune59/index.html
 E-Mail:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *
 MHS Class Of 78 Marshalltown High School-Marshalltown,IA USA
 *
 
 
 
 
 
 





Re: [newbie] Yo

2000-08-26 Thread Mark Weaver

amen! now let's let this poor horse die! it's starting to draw flies!

-- 
Mark

**  =/\=  No Penguins were harmed   | ICQ#27816299
** _||_ in the making of this |
**  =\/=  message...| Registered Linux user #182496


On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, Goldenpi wrote:

 Netscape always crashes, no matter what you run it under. The difference is
 that in windows it takes everything else with it.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Doug [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 3:39 AM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Yo
 
 
 
 
  Hugh wrote:
 
   And Doug you forgot to mention the pretty blue screens you get
   And all for free   NOT!   LOL
 
  Ya and Linux is crash free! NOT!
  Like sometimes when I use Netscape it will just crash and you got to click
  its icon to get it going again most of the
  time this will to work and you got to log out and back in again.
 
  Then there was the time when I Deleted a large file one my zip drive and
 it
  made LINUX crash.
 
  On and on for desktop use Linux is no better than Windows.
 
 
 
  --
 
  Windows-Where Do You Want To Go Today!
  LINUX-Applications on linux just seem 2nd rate after using
  Windows, It's memory hungry and slow!
  *
  Doug
  Eldora,IA USA--Home Of The Bad Boys!
  Visit My Web Page At:
  http://home.earthlink.net/~neptuned/index.html
  http://hometown.aol.com/theneptune59/index.html
  E-Mail:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  *
  MHS Class Of 78 Marshalltown High School-Marshalltown,IA USA
  *
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 





[newbie] Unary operator expected

2000-08-26 Thread Juggernaut

Hello.
I got error messages, after I'm finish using linuxconf. Even if I just type
linuxconf and then quit. These errors are like this :

"Executing /etc/rc/d/rc3.d/S10network reload
*/etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S10network [:= Unary operator expected
Bringing up route eth0 [OK]
Executing /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S50inet restart
*/etc/rc.3/rc3.d/S50inet [:= unary operator expected
*/etc/rc.3/rc3.d/S50inet [:= unary operator expected
Stopping INET services : [OK]
*/etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S50inet [:= unary operator expected
Starting INET services : [OK]

The sentence "Unary operator expected", what does it mean ? And what should
I do to correct this problem ?
Thanks a lot.

-Pungki





Re: [newbie] Changing themes in enlightement

2000-08-26 Thread Juggernaut



 Hi,

 If you have "installed" the theme correctly you will need to regerate your
 menus in Enlightenment - click the 2nd (middle) mouse button and choose
 Maintenance | Regenerate Menus... a dialog will appear to acknowledge this
 with an OK button.

 After a few seconds another one should appear with a completed message.
If
 you now click on the middle mouse button again, you should have a Theme
 menu... just select your new theme from there.

 -- Mark.

The files are in tar.gz form. I think I just need to decompress it. But
after I regenerate my menus, I'm still not found my new theme there. Maybe
there is something wrong with the instalation. If so, how I can install my
theme ?
Thank's for reply.

-Pungki





Re: [newbie] kppp error

2000-08-26 Thread Juggernaut

 Pungkitry adding the option 'noauth' to your
 '/etc/ppp/options' file.

 Alan

Thanks. It works. But there is a new problem. Now I can connect to
internet. But I can't browsing. If  I point my Netscape to www.netscape.net
there is an error message like this :

"Netscape is unable to locate the server www.netscape.net. Please check the
server name and try again. "

"Warning : the following hosts are unknown :
home.netscape.com
home6.netscape.com
internic.net
This mean that some or all hosts will be unreachable.

Perhaps there is a problem with your name server ? If your site must use a
non-root name server you will need to set the SOCKS_NS environment variable
to point at the appropriate name server. It may (or may not) be necessary to
set this variable or the SOCKS host preference to the IP adress of the host
in question rahter than its name.
Counsult your system administrator. "

A friend of mine told me to look the file resolv.conf. But I don't know what
should I write in that file. Anyone can help me ? Thank's a lot.

-Pungki





Re: [newbie] Changing themes in enlightement

2000-08-26 Thread Andrew Scotchmer

On Sun, 27 Aug 2000, you wrote:

 
 The files are in tar.gz form. I think I just need to decompress it. But
 after I regenerate my menus, I'm still not found my new theme there. Maybe
 there is something wrong with the instalation. If so, how I can install my
 theme ?
 Thank's for reply.
 
 -Pungki

Hang on you don't need to decompress them do you?  I know in KDE you just use
the tar.gz file, maybe it's the same in enlightenment.  It's been a while since
I last used it so I'm not too sure.  Try placeing the files in
~/.enlightenment/themes.

Andrew




[newbie] DOSemu - how to change directories

2000-08-26 Thread Jeff Malka

I have 2 questions about DOSemu under Mandrake 7.1

When I start dosemu in a console I find myself in a purely virtual DOS directory
with nothing else.  How do I change directories to access one of my real DOS
directories where the DOS apps are.  The old DOS partition letters do not work
and only C: and D: exist both of which are "virtual" directories.

Thank you.

-- 
Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Registered Linux User 348854





[newbie] unsubscribe

2000-08-26 Thread Rick Chang



as title. sorry!

Rick


Re: [newbie] C compilers

2000-08-26 Thread Kathleen Dickason

Thanks,  I tried gcc and found I like it :)

Can't help with the C++ books cos I'm learning C, but fatbrain.com has a *ton*
of programming books...


Michael Khachiki wrote:

 Hey I jus started too. I use KDevelop from xwindows. But you can use g++ or
 gcc.

 Dose any one know any good C++ books for Linux?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kathleen Dickason
 Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 9:07 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] C compilers

 Does anyone here use Linux to program in C?  I am just learning.  Which
 compiler do
 you use?

 Thanks,

 Kathleen

--
Kathleen Dickason
Registered Linux user #182139







[newbie]

2000-08-26 Thread Dmitry Borovitchenko

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Re: [newbie] kppp error

2000-08-26 Thread Goldenpi

 I know someone will tell me not to point out the ovious, but have you
checked the dns setup? run kppp, click setup, edit the account thats not
working, look under the tab dns.
- Original Message -
From: Juggernaut [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mandrake maling list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] kppp error


  Pungkitry adding the option 'noauth' to your
  '/etc/ppp/options' file.
 
  Alan

 Thanks. It works. But there is a new problem. Now I can connect to
 internet. But I can't browsing. If  I point my Netscape to
www.netscape.net
 there is an error message like this :

 "Netscape is unable to locate the server www.netscape.net. Please check
the
 server name and try again. "

 "Warning : the following hosts are unknown :
 home.netscape.com
 home6.netscape.com
 internic.net
 This mean that some or all hosts will be unreachable.

 Perhaps there is a problem with your name server ? If your site must use a
 non-root name server you will need to set the SOCKS_NS environment
variable
 to point at the appropriate name server. It may (or may not) be necessary
to
 set this variable or the SOCKS host preference to the IP adress of the
host
 in question rahter than its name.
 Counsult your system administrator. "

 A friend of mine told me to look the file resolv.conf. But I don't know
what
 should I write in that file. Anyone can help me ? Thank's a lot.

 -Pungki







Re: [newbie] C compilers

2000-08-26 Thread Kathleen Dickason

I think there is a graphical debugger called ddd but I don't know about a
compiler...

Brendan K Callahan wrote:

 Are there any graphical interfaces for the compiler?  I'm used to using
 Borland Turbo C++ (v3.x and v4.x) for Windows.  More clearly defined, I like
 having scrollable windows, multiple windows, the open file dialog and such.
 Anyone know anything?

  I use the compiler that comes with Mandrake which is also the same one in
  Redhat and the others. If it's C you're programming in invoke 'gcc', if
  you're doing C++ use 'g++'. Although actually either one will work for
  both C and C++. I've gotten some funny errors from gcc when compiling a
  C++ program.

 --
 Brendan K Callahan, Grinnell, IA, US  K0EES, Extra Class License
 http://www.mp3.com/darkmare_romeo
 K0EES, Extra Class License dahdidah dahdahdahdahdah dit dit dididit

--
Kathleen Dickason
Registered Linux user #182139







Re: [newbie] Having problems compiling! ;-(

2000-08-26 Thread Ronald J. Hall

Paul wrote:
 
 On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 
 I'm having some real problems anytime I try to compile just darn near
 about anything. ;-(
 
 Attached is the error message I get.
 
 Can someone please tell me what I need to add/fix to get my setup
 working correctly? I'm using Mandrake v7.1, that I installed from an
 isoimage downloaded from their site...
 
 It looks as if you need to install a lot of development stuff. Look on the
 CD for all things that have "devel" in it and install those. Or do a
 "developers" upgrade, that takes care of it too.
 
 Paul

Hi Paul. Thanks, I'll try that and see what happens...

-- 
   /\
   DarkLord
   \/




Re: [newbie] C compilers

2000-08-26 Thread Eric MC.D

Here they are:
Sniff++ (www.takefive.com/penguin/)
CodeWarrior for GNU (www.metroworks.com)
C-Forge (www.codeforge.com/)
Visual K (www.viskprog.org/)
Code Crusader (with code medic dbg)
(www.newplanetsoftware.com/jcc/)
Builder Xccessory Pro
Jbuilder 3.5 Foundation
Cole
GIDE
GLG ToolKit
GLUT
K Develop
MetaCard
VDK Builder
Wwxstudio
TCL Developer Studio
Gnome Filer
C Meister
AnyJ

Etc..., etc...
+ many developers library's + debuggers + utilities

Eric MC


µBrendan K Callahan wrote:
 
 Are there any graphical interfaces for the compiler?  I'm used to using
 Borland Turbo C++ (v3.x and v4.x) for Windows.  More clearly defined, I like
 having scrollable windows, multiple windows, the open file dialog and such.
 Anyone know anything?
 
  I use the compiler that comes with Mandrake which is also the same one in
  Redhat and the others. If it's C you're programming in invoke 'gcc', if
  you're doing C++ use 'g++'. Although actually either one will work for
  both C and C++. I've gotten some funny errors from gcc when compiling a
  C++ program.
 
 --
 Brendan K Callahan, Grinnell, IA, US  K0EES, Extra Class License
 http://www.mp3.com/darkmare_romeo
 K0EES, Extra Class License dahdidah dahdahdahdahdah dit dit dididit




RE: [newbie] C compilers

2000-08-26 Thread Hanson, Lisa M

Mark,
What version of CodeWarrior are you using?  I contacted the support people there and 
they said their *current* version does not run under Mandrake-Linux (they have RedHat 
 SuSE versions).  But they said they are beta testing their next version which WILL 
run under Mandrake-Linux 7.1.

I, too, am doing an evaluation of C++ development environments for Linux, and my short 
list consists of: KDevelop, Moonshine (I think I'm gonna pick this one just for the 
NAME! ;-), C-Forge, and WipeOut.  Any comments/suggestions on which of these you think 
is "best" would be greatly welcomed.

Thanks!
Lisa
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 --
 From: Mark Weaver[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 5:55 AM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: [newbie] C compilers
 
 I can answer that question with on word
 
   Codewarrior
 
 you'll never go back to Boreland again.  :)_
 
 -- 
 Mark
 
 **  =/\=  No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299
 ** _||_ in the making of this   |
 **  =\/=  message...  | Registered Linux user #182496
 
 
 On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, Brendan K Callahan wrote:
 
  Are there any graphical interfaces for the compiler?  I'm used to using
  Borland Turbo C++ (v3.x and v4.x) for Windows.  More clearly defined, I like
  having scrollable windows, multiple windows, the open file dialog and such. 
  Anyone know anything?
  
   I use the compiler that comes with Mandrake which is also the same one in
   Redhat and the others. If it's C you're programming in invoke 'gcc', if
   you're doing C++ use 'g++'. Although actually either one will work for
   both C and C++. I've gotten some funny errors from gcc when compiling a
   C++ program. 
  
  
 
 




Re: [newbie] C compilers

2000-08-26 Thread ~*Mark*~

Kathleen Dickason wrote:
 
 I think there is a graphical debugger called ddd but I don't know about a
 compiler...
 
 Brendan K Callahan wrote:
 
  Are there any graphical interfaces for the compiler?  I'm used to using
  Borland Turbo C++ (v3.x and v4.x) for Windows.  More clearly defined, I like
  having scrollable windows, multiple windows, the open file dialog and such.
  Anyone know anything?
 
   I use the compiler that comes with Mandrake which is also the same one in
   Redhat and the others. If it's C you're programming in invoke 'gcc', if
   you're doing C++ use 'g++'. Although actually either one will work for
   both C and C++. I've gotten some funny errors from gcc when compiling a
   C++ program.
 
  --
  Brendan K Callahan, Grinnell, IA, US  K0EES, Extra Class License
  http://www.mp3.com/darkmare_romeo
  K0EES, Extra Class License dahdidah dahdahdahdahdah dit dit dididit
 
 --
 Kathleen Dickason
 Registered Linux user #182139

There's an IDE Programming app called Codewarrior that is probably one
of the best developement tools that exists for Linux. It's relatively
inexpensive as far as these things go. I think around $70 dollars.
-- 
Mark

You know...if my wife were any nicer to me 
I'd have to buy a new suite!




Re: [newbie] C compilers

2000-08-26 Thread ~*Mark*~

"Hanson, Lisa M" wrote:
 
 Mark,
 What version of CodeWarrior are you using?  I contacted the support people there and 
they said their *current* version does not run under Mandrake-Linux (they have RedHat 
 SuSE versions).  But they said they are beta testing their next version which WILL 
run under Mandrake-Linux 7.1.
 
 I, too, am doing an evaluation of C++ development environments for Linux, and my 
short list consists of: KDevelop, Moonshine (I think I'm gonna pick this one just for 
the NAME! ;-), C-Forge, and WipeOut.  Any comments/suggestions on which of these you 
think is "best" would be greatly welcomed.
 
 Thanks!
 Lisa
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  --
  From: Mark Weaver[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 5:55 AM
  To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:  Re: [newbie] C compilers
 
  I can answer that question with on word
 
Codewarrior
 
  you'll never go back to Boreland again.  :)_
 
  --
  Mark
  
  **  =/\=  No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299
  ** _||_ in the making of this   |
  **  =\/=  message...  | Registered Linux user #182496
  
 
  On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, Brendan K Callahan wrote:
 
   Are there any graphical interfaces for the compiler?  I'm used to using
   Borland Turbo C++ (v3.x and v4.x) for Windows.  More clearly defined, I like
   having scrollable windows, multiple windows, the open file dialog and such.
   Anyone know anything?
  
I use the compiler that comes with Mandrake which is also the same one in
Redhat and the others. If it's C you're programming in invoke 'gcc', if
you're doing C++ use 'g++'. Although actually either one will work for
both C and C++. I've gotten some funny errors from gcc when compiling a
C++ program.
  
  
 
 

I haven't bought my version of Codewarrior yet. I've seen it though and
it's nice! At the moment I'm using what comes with linux, and sometimes
I boot windows and use my Boreland IDE.

I had started leaning C++ a while back, but then I got REAL busy with
school and didn't have the time. Now that all my computer classes are
over and I've got two semesters left I have more time to get back to
C++. 
-- 
Mark

You know...if my wife were any nicer to me 
I'd have to buy a new suite!




[newbie] Astra 2200 hangs

2000-08-26 Thread Hugh

Has anyone had an Astra2200 hang during scan? I just bought a new one and 
cant seem to get it to scan, Any Ideas out there?




Re: [newbie] kppp error

2000-08-26 Thread Dennis Myers


Once you have a connection, you have to configure the preferences in Netscape
so it will recognize your modem. With netscape up click on edit and
then in the drop down list Preferences. You will need to know the
Popserver name used for mail to enter for incoming and outgoing.
Once you have filled in the blanks Netscape should recognize your modem.
At least that is the way it worked for me.
Juggernaut wrote:
> Pungkitry adding the option 'noauth' to your
> '/etc/ppp/options' file.
>
> Alan
Thanks. It works. But there is a new problem. Now I can connect to
internet. But I can't browsing. If I point my Netscape to www.netscape.net
there is an error message like this :
"Netscape is unable to locate the server www.netscape.net. Please check
the
server name and try again. "
"Warning : the following hosts are unknown :

home.netscape.com

home6.netscape.com

internic.net
This mean that some or all hosts will be unreachable.
Perhaps there is a problem with your name server ? If your site must
use a
non-root name server you will need to set the SOCKS_NS environment
variable
to point at the appropriate name server. It may (or may not) be necessary
to
set this variable or the SOCKS host preference to the IP adress of
the host
in question rahter than its name.
Counsult your system administrator. "
A friend of mine told me to look the file resolv.conf. But I don't know
what
should I write in that file. Anyone can help me ? Thank's a lot.
-Pungki

--
Dennis a registered linux user #180842



Re: [newbie] C compilers

2000-08-26 Thread Kathleen Dickason

Thanks,  I tried gcc and found I like it :)

Can't help with the C++ books cos I'm learning C, but fatbrain.com has a
*ton*
of programming books...


Michael Khachiki wrote:

 Hey I jus started too. I use KDevelop from xwindows. But you can use
g++ or
 gcc.

 Dose any one know any good C++ books for Linux?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kathleen Dickason

 Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 9:07 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] C compilers

 Does anyone here use Linux to program in C?  I am just learning.
Which
 compiler do
 you use?

 Thanks,

 Kathleen

--
Kathleen Dickason
Registered Linux user #182139





--
Kathleen Dickason
Registered Linux user #182139







Re: [newbie] C compilers

2000-08-26 Thread Kathleen Dickason

Thank you - I tried gcc and found I like it a lot.  I don't care as much
about fancy as about functional, so I am happily set up
with vim and gcc now.  :)

Have you tried lcc?  I heard it's similar to gcc but not identical and I
wondered what the difference was.

I've written your book title down, to go with kernighan and ritchie's
_the c programming language_ when i am a bit farther along!

Pete Clapham wrote:

 Kathleen --

 I use gcc to program in C.  It works fine, and it's installed
automatically with Mandrake if you install the "developer" mode
 (when installing do customized, then developer).  It's not as fancy
as, say, Borland on Windows, but it works well.  If you want
 a book that will actually let you learn C, I would recommend the book
by Donald (I think) Kochan (the last name is correct).  If
 memory serves, the title is Programming in C (creative title, here),
second edition.  It's paperback, green, with a diamond on
 the front cover.

 On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 18:06:52 -0500, Kathleen Dickason wrote:

 Does anyone here use Linux to program in C?  I am just learning.
Which compiler do
 you use?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Kathleen
 
 

 Pete Clapham
 Department of Biological, Geological, and Environmental Sciences
 Cleveland State University
 Cleveland, Ohio, 44115
 Voice: [216] 687-4820
 Fax: [216] 523-7200
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

--
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Registered Linux user #18213

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Registered Linux user #182139







Re: [newbie] C compilers

2000-08-26 Thread Kathleen Dickason

Thanks!  Gcc is seeming to work well for me for C.  Its error messages
if I don't get a
clean compile are easy for me to understand...I type

gcc -Wall -ggdb hello.c -o hello

This is FUN.  Hello, World!  ;)

(apologies for lame newbie joke)

Mark Weaver wrote:

 Hi Kathleen,

 I use the compiler that comes with Mandrake which is also the same one
in
 Redhat and the others. If it's C you're programming in invoke 'gcc',
if
 you're doing C++ use 'g++'. Although actually either one will work for

 both C and C++. I've gotten some funny errors from gcc when compiling
a
 C++ program.

 the command line to invoke the compiler looks like this:

 source code file name:   hello.cc
 binary name after compile:  hello

 command line syntax:g++ -g -Wall -ohello hello.cc   ENTER

 if your program is coded correctly when you hit the enter key your
machine
 will whir for a second and then come back to the command prompt. a
clean
 compile is nothing but the command prompt. Then type the name of the
 binary and watch your program run.

 --
 Mark



 **  =/\=  No Penguins were harmed   | ICQ#27816299
 ** _||_ in the making of this |
 **  =\/=  message...| Registered Linux user
#182496




 On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, Kathleen Dickason wrote:

  Does anyone here use Linux to program in C?  I am just learning.
Which compiler do
  you use?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Kathleen
 
 
 

--
Kathleen Dickason
Registered Linux user #182139

--
Kathleen Dickason
Registered Linux user #182139







[newbie] MySQL RPM

2000-08-26 Thread Michael Hatzakis


Trying to find an RPM for mandrake to install MySQL, can someone suggest
where to find it.   Just got PHP running nicely on apache.

Thanks, Michael
 





[newbie] Hard Dive info. please

2000-08-26 Thread Kandace Little



I am having troubles loading up Linux on my Win 98 
machine
because of the size of my Hard drive. I was 
wondering if by
putting in a new hard drive (slave) my 
problems would go 
away?

Stephen


Re: [newbie] Hard Dive info. please

2000-08-26 Thread Kathleen Dickason

How large is your hard drive and how big is the Linux partition?

Kandace Little wrote:

 I am having troubles loading up Linux on my Win 98 machinebecause of
 the size of my Hard drive. I was wondering if byputting in a new hard
 drive  (slave)  my problems would goaway? Stephen

--
Kathleen Dickason
Registered Linux user #182139







[newbie] Hard Dive info. pleas

2000-08-26 Thread Kandace Little



My hard drive now is 20 gigs and the one that I 
can
add is only 4 gigs. I was thinking it would be nice 
to
have Linux on its own drive all together. I guess I 
would
use the whole Hard drive for Linux, unless that 
would
cause problems?

Stephen


Re: [newbie] Hard Dive info. please

2000-08-26 Thread Goldenpi



Perhaps. If your hard drive is too small, and you 
have enough expirence with hard drives and partitioning to set it up, then it 
will work.


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kandace 
  Little 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 4:32 
  PM
  Subject: [newbie] Hard Dive info. 
  please
  
  I am having troubles loading up Linux on my Win 
  98 machine
  because of the size of my Hard drive. I was 
  wondering if by
  putting in a new hard drive (slave) 
  my problems would go 
  away?
  
  Stephen


Re: [newbie] Hard Dive info. please

2000-08-26 Thread Jason Ashman

On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, you wrote:
 
 I am having troubles loading up Linux on my Win 98 machine
 because of the size of my Hard drive. I was wondering if by
 putting in a new hard drive  (slave)  my problems would go 
 away?
 
 Stephen
 


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[newbie] subscribe linux-mandrake

2000-08-26 Thread POURCELOT Sébastien



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Re: [newbie] Hard Dive info. pleas

2000-08-26 Thread patrick darcy

Kathleen Dickason wrote:

 20 gigs is ample room for 2 OSes or more.  is there a reason you don't
 want to partition the main drive?  are you only running windows now?

 Kandace Little wrote:

  My hard drive now is 20 gigs and the one that I canadd is only 4 gigs.
  I was thinking it would be nice tohave Linux on its own drive all
  together. I guess I woulduse the whole Hard drive for Linux, unless
  that wouldcause problems? Stephen

 --
 Kathleen Dickason
 Registered Linux user #182139

i got 2 drives one 15 gig the other 20 gig and linex has em  both
   :)








Re: [newbie] Hard Dive info. pleas

2000-08-26 Thread Kathleen Dickason

patrick darcy wrote:

 Kathleen Dickason wrote:

  20 gigs is ample room for 2 OSes or more.  is there a reason you don't
  want to partition the main drive?  are you only running windows now?
 
  Kandace Little wrote:
 
   My hard drive now is 20 gigs and the one that I canadd is only 4 gigs.
   I was thinking it would be nice tohave Linux on its own drive all
   together. I guess I woulduse the whole Hard drive for Linux, unless
   that wouldcause problems? Stephen
 
 i got 2 drives one 15 gig the other 20 gig and linex has em  both
:)

Wow!  I've got 2 drives with a combined total of 23.6 gig...and 4 OSes.  Soon
to be 5.  Hee.

--
Kathleen Dickason
Registered Linux user #182139







[newbie] gcc compiler, missing ld components??

2000-08-26 Thread Hanson, Lisa M

All right, I'm stuck...  After installing the GCC 2.95.2 package and thinking 
everything was hunky-dorey, I can't even compile a simple 1-line C program.  
/usr/bin/ld is complaining about crt1.o.  What is crt1.o and collect2??  The output 
from my compilation is below:

cc -o test test.c
/usr/bin/ld: cannot open crt1.o: No such file or directory
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

Anyone know what I'm missing?
Thanks!
Lisa






[newbie] Directcc is great.

2000-08-26 Thread Goldenpi

One of the network programs I find useful under windows is direct cable
connection, which allows me to run file shareing between my two windows
computers. Now I would like to network linux and windows, but I have no
network cards, just a long serial cable. Linux doesn't have anything like
directcc, is there a way to set it up?





[newbie] Linux4Win install problems

2000-08-26 Thread Bjørnar Orskaug


Hello!

I am new to Linux, and would like to try out Linux4Win before I 
take the full step over to Linux. I have a Athlon 800mhz, Sb live sfx,
28 Gig HD, Aopen K72 mainboard, with Win98se installed on one full partition,
one cdwriter and one creative dvd-drive, both EIDE/ATAPI..

When I try to install Linux4win from Windows, it stops on the Second Stage
Install. 
I also tried to make a Linux bootdisk from the "rawwritewin" utility,
booting up from that disk works fine, and it wants to start installing
Mandrake,
however, does anyone know if it will install "normal" linux, not the
Linux4Win-version?
Will it mess up my existing Win98se partition (which I need!)?

Hope any1 can help...


-Regards,

B.O 






[newbie] An error on boot-up

2000-08-26 Thread Yourlord

i hav had my linux machine up and runnin 4 approximatly 2 weeks strait. i
had 2
shut down, and @ start up i got:

/dev/hda5 contains a filesystem with errors, check forced.
/dev/hda5:
Inode 506609 has illegal block(s).
/dev/hda5: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY. RUN fsck MANUALLY. (i.e., without -a
or -p
options)

then it drops me into a single user maintnece mode with the partion mounted
in as read only.  and this is not the first time i have had this happen. i
have
had this happen on another machine with totally different components. @ that
point in time, i just reinstalled the os. that 1 was runin mandrake 6.1, but
now i am runnin mandrake 7.1.  they both usein ide drives.

my question is does any1 no how to fix the block, or atleast ignor the error
and skip the check so i can boot anyway and get my file that i want. also,
do
you have any idea what i may be doin wrong that is causein this.

i appreshiate any input.






Re: [newbie] Hard Dive info. pleas

2000-08-26 Thread patrick darcy

Kathleen Dickason wrote:

 patrick darcy wrote:

  Kathleen Dickason wrote:
 
   20 gigs is ample room for 2 OSes or more.  is there a reason you don't
   want to partition the main drive?  are you only running windows now?
  
   Kandace Little wrote:
  
My hard drive now is 20 gigs and the one that I canadd is only 4 gigs.
I was thinking it would be nice tohave Linux on its own drive all
together. I guess I woulduse the whole Hard drive for Linux, unless
that wouldcause problems? Stephen
  
  i got 2 drives one 15 gig the other 20 gig and linex has em  both
 :)

 Wow!  I've got 2 drives with a combined total of 23.6 gig...and 4 OSes.  Soon
 to be 5.  Hee.

 --
 Kathleen Dickason
 Registered Linux user #182139

how come so many operating systems. i find this fascinating. what do u
do more or less with each of them








Re: [newbie] Kppp and Networking

2000-08-26 Thread Bob

Hi Greg,

Things seems to be working. I.m not using DHCP and not enabled in
pmfirewall. Is that all right?

Box 2- I've also have linux on it, and want to access it thru linux.
Box2 also has the printer attached to it that I want to use.

I got Box2  where it can access the internet and network. I had to disable
serials ports in the Bios to get both PCI Devices to work (NIC and Modem).
I installed pmfirewall on box2 with same options I used on Box 1.
Now--- I want to access Box2 printer  and be able to mount  both computers
from each other. When I try to print from Box 1 to box2 printer I get
"unable to get offical name for local machine  Intel.localdomain"

Names
Box1= Intel.localdomain
Box2=Athlon.localdomain
As always any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Bob

- Original Message -
From: Greg Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Kppp and Networking


 OK, FINALLY! Something we tried *actually* did something positive!

 I was beginning to worry there!

 For now, unless you're going to be setting up httpd to server something
 immediately, you can go into DrakConf (if it actually installed on your
 machine--I had to install mine manually) and shut off httpd in system
 services. Until you actually have the ability to set it up, there's no
need
 to sit around waiting for it to start.

 For pmfirewall... just so that everything is set correctly in its scripts,
 re-run the install script giving it ppp0 as the external interface, DHCP,
 autodetect the IP, and shut off any services you probably will not use
 (most, if not all the defaults are fine here).

 Then tell it eth0 is the internal interface, that it *will* be
masquerading,
 and to detect that IP range.

 When it all finished, bring upthe modem, get connected, and run
 /usr/local/pmfirewall/./pmfirewall restart
 to check that it's been confgured correctly. You should see the correct
IPs
 for bothe networks.

 On the windows box... all you need to do in the Network applet in control
 panel, is edit the settings in network  protocols  TCP/IP [ethernet
 adapter]. You want to add your internal IP for that machine. a subnet mask
 that matches the one used on the NIC for the firewall (hopefully
 255.255.255.0-'cause that would correct) and enter the default gateway as
 the IP of the internal interface of the firewall. For the  the DNS
entries,
 add the two DNS IP address found in /etc/resolve.conf on the firewall (or
 two DNS servers you know will exist on the internet), close everything,
 possibly restart as you're working in windows, and give it a try.

 We should be good from here

 Then it's on to samba. (Oh god!)  :-)

 --Greg



  Success!!!
 
  I took out my servername and address  in /etc/hosts and am now able to
  connect to internet.
  /sbin/ifup ppp0   dials modem and connects
  /sbin/ifconfig  shows eth0.,lo,ppp0 with IP addressess
  on ppp0 it shows the address the ISP gives me upon connection.
  What is command to disconnect?   Kppp will also work.
 
  On Boot though  "http" fails  and has to set the servername.  Bootup
takes
  forever. I will now enable network on box2 and try to figure out how to
  mount.
  What do I do next?
  Thanks Greg
  Bob
  - Original Message -
  From: Greg Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 12:07 AM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Kppp and Networking
 
 
Internal eth0:  192.168.100.1/255.255.255.0
External ppp0: 192.168.100.1/255.255.255.255
  
   OK, something is definitely wrong with this...Have you correctly
  configured
   ppp0 for DHCP? 'Cause the system is encountering an IP conflict now.
   192.168.x.x is a reserved address (you may know this already) for
 internal
   LAN usage along with 10.x.x.x and , i believe, 172.something..x.x .You
   definitely need to check to make sure there is no IP assignment for
 ppp0,
   only DHCP. Also, check /etc/hosts to make sure you only 127.0.0.1
   localhost.localdomain as the entry...no other IPs until we can figure
 out
   why there's this new conflict.
  
   Um... yes, if you configure ppp0 to start at boot, it wiil attempt to
 dial
   up unless you have demand dial enabled...let's not get into that yet,
   though.
  
   Disable the boot-time on ppp0 for now. You should be able to leave
   pmfirewall the way you have it.
  
   After boot, type   /sbin/ifup ppp0and see what happens. I
 negotiation
   occurs, wait a few seconds and then type /sbinf/ifconfig and see if
ppp0
  is
   listed. if it is, check the IP info. If you get assigned a 192.168.x.x
   number then we have to use a different range on the NIC (10.x.x.x
 maybe).
  
   Geez...it's 1am--I have to get to sleep now... I'll think some more on
  this
   tomorrow.
  
   --Greg
  
  





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Re: [newbie] Hard Dive info. pleas

2000-08-26 Thread Kathleen Dickason

patrick darcy wrote:

 Kathleen Dickason wrote:

  patrick darcy wrote:
 
   Kathleen Dickason wrote:
  
20 gigs is ample room for 2 OSes or more.  is there a reason you don't
want to partition the main drive?  are you only running windows now?
   
Kandace Little wrote:
   
 My hard drive now is 20 gigs and the one that I canadd is only 4 gigs.
 I was thinking it would be nice tohave Linux on its own drive all
 together. I guess I woulduse the whole Hard drive for Linux, unless
 that wouldcause problems? Stephen
   
   i got 2 drives one 15 gig the other 20 gig and linex has em  both
  :)
 
  Wow!  I've got 2 drives with a combined total of 23.6 gig...and 4 OSes.  Soon
  to be 5.  Hee.
 
  --
  Kathleen Dickason
  Registered Linux user #182139

 how come so many operating systems. i find this fascinating. what do u
 do more or less with each of them

I have so many because I'm an OS addict.  *grin*  I am curious about how they work
and what apps are available in each environment.  And CheapBytes makes them simple
to acquire as well as inexpensive.

I started with Windows 98,  which came preinstalled and which I keep because there
are some programs I need for work that Ionly have in Windows...like Adobe
PageMaker and PhotoShop.

I don't like Windows much, though, so I installed Linux Mandrake 7.0 as a dual
boot, then upgraded to 7.1.  This is my current favorite OS.  I use it for
learning to program in C, for email and websurfing.  I'm still exploring and
learning!

After that, I got curious.  I have a friend who used to program for the BeOS, so I
bought a 2nd hard drive and installed BeOS 5 on that.  Be is my 2nd favorite
OS...I use it to play with graphics programs and 3D modeling, and also for email
and websurfing.

Since I like the Unix aspect of Linux a lot, I got curious about other flavors,
and installed FreeBSD also on the 2nd hard drive.  I have only played with this a
little so far, since I am currently spending most of my free time playing with C
programming.

I plan to install Sun Solaris in the future, since it's one of the Unices most
commonly used by businesses around here.

But mostly, I just like to play with them.  :)

--
Kathleen Dickason
Registered Linux user #182139







Re: [newbie] C compilers

2000-08-26 Thread Brendan K Callahan

On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, you wrote:
 I can answer that question with on word
 
   Codewarrior
 
 you'll never go back to Boreland again.  :)_
 
 -- 
 Mark
Thanks to everyone for the resounding referal to Codewarrier!
-- 
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[newbie]

2000-08-26 Thread Rathgeb, Mathew MP STAC


Hi,

 Is this list available in digest mode? I havent been able to find a command
for it.




[newbie] (OT) An MS Linux webpage!

2000-08-26 Thread Brisco County Jr.

Take a look at this page, you might be surprised! :-)

http://www.mslinux.org





Re: [newbie] Hard Dive info. pleas

2000-08-26 Thread patrick darcy

Kathleen Dickason wrote:

 patrick darcy wrote:

  Kathleen Dickason wrote:
 
   patrick darcy wrote:
  
Kathleen Dickason wrote:
   
 20 gigs is ample room for 2 OSes or more.  is there a reason you don't
 want to partition the main drive?  are you only running windows now?

 Kandace Little wrote:

  My hard drive now is 20 gigs and the one that I canadd is only 4 gigs.
  I was thinking it would be nice tohave Linux on its own drive all
  together. I guess I woulduse the whole Hard drive for Linux, unless
  that wouldcause problems? Stephen

i got 2 drives one 15 gig the other 20 gig and linex has em  both
   :)
  
   Wow!  I've got 2 drives with a combined total of 23.6 gig...and 4 OSes.  Soon
   to be 5.  Hee.
  
   --
   Kathleen Dickason
   Registered Linux user #182139
 
  how come so many operating systems. i find this fascinating. what do u
  do more or less with each of them

 I have so many because I'm an OS addict.  *grin*  I am curious about how they work
 and what apps are available in each environment.  And CheapBytes makes them simple
 to acquire as well as inexpensive.

 I started with Windows 98,  which came preinstalled and which I keep because there
 are some programs I need for work that Ionly have in Windows...like Adobe
 PageMaker and PhotoShop.

 I don't like Windows much, though, so I installed Linux Mandrake 7.0 as a dual
 boot, then upgraded to 7.1.  This is my current favorite OS.  I use it for
 learning to program in C, for email and websurfing.  I'm still exploring and
 learning!

 After that, I got curious.  I have a friend who used to program for the BeOS, so I
 bought a 2nd hard drive and installed BeOS 5 on that.  Be is my 2nd favorite
 OS...I use it to play with graphics programs and 3D modeling, and also for email
 and websurfing.

 Since I like the Unix aspect of Linux a lot, I got curious about other flavors,
 and installed FreeBSD also on the 2nd hard drive.  I have only played with this a
 little so far, since I am currently spending most of my free time playing with C
 programming.

 I plan to install Sun Solaris in the future, since it's one of the Unices most
 commonly used by businesses around here.

 But mostly, I just like to play with them.  :)

 --
 Kathleen Dickason
 Registered Linux user #182139

wow. i had win 3.1 then 98 then 98se and after reading about
what gates is all about i decided i had to make a change. im
not a progammer or anything but i do like linux. i had corel
which i didnt really give a chance to because it didnt
support geforce cards at the time. then i had suse and
i loved it. then mandrake came out and i got it and for
some reason i lliked it even more. i am really excited
about the 2.4 kernal coming out. i want to check
out konquer and koffice. i do some writing with
my machine but mainly listen to music with it
while i try to get people out of cults and wierd
churches on the internet. i love the sta bility of mandrake
i leave my machine on all the time and use konqueror
for my newsgroups and netscape for news and other
stuff. and by the way my netscape only crashes
about once every week or two. konquer
never crashes period.

later pat





Re: [newbie] (OT) An MS Linux webpage!

2000-08-26 Thread patrick darcy

"Brisco County Jr." wrote:

 Take a look at this page, you might be surprised! :-)

 http://www.mslinux.org

i gotta admit, u had me going for a minute

thanks





[newbie] sound card prob

2000-08-26 Thread Chris Rivera



How do I get Mandrake 7.0 to use my sound 
card? It recognizes it but it cant config it with Lothar. I've got an onboard 
C-Media CMI8338/C3DX sound card. Any help is appreciated.



Re: [newbie] (OT) An MS Linux webpage!

2000-08-26 Thread maxtor

On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, you wrote:
 Take a look at this page, you might be surprised! :-)
 
 http://www.mslinux.org

YeahI have to say, its a good laugh:-)





Re: [newbie] sound card prob

2000-08-26 Thread JAK006



go into the terminal and type in "sndconfig" 
if that doesn't work, download OSS off the internet. 
-Jeff

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Chris Rivera 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 8:13 
  PM
  Subject: [newbie] sound card prob
  
  How do I get Mandrake 7.0 to use my sound 
  card? It recognizes it but it cant config it with Lothar. I've got an onboard 
  C-Media CMI8338/C3DX sound card. Any help is appreciated.
  


[newbie] RE: Seeking Information

2000-08-26 Thread RT



I recently purchased and have been trying to 
install LM7.1 for Windows. I read all directions in both manuals and 
followed the install step by step. I tried auto first, the custom. 
Both times the I got the message the installation completed 
successfully.

The problem comes when I try to start LINUX. 
I get the following message:

...
Autorun Done.

REQUEST_MODULE[BLOCK-MAJOR-7]:ROOT FS NOT 
MOUNTED
VFS:CANNOT OPEN ROOT DEVICE 07:07
KERNEL PANIC:VFS:UNABLE TO MOUNT ROOT FS on 
07:07

Any information or directions is appreciated.

Ronald
RTC, Jr.http://www.ctechss.com


[newbie] maudio

2000-08-26 Thread Charles Roberts

Hi,
I am running Mandrake 7.0   /proc/pci shows :
Bus 0, device 12, function 0
  Multimedia audio controller: Unknown vender Unknown device (rev 16)
 Vender id=13f6  Device id=111
  Medium dvsel  IRQ 10  Master capable   Latency=32  Min Gnt=2 Max
Lat =2
  I/O at 0xde00 [0xde01].

I hope this would be what someone would need to help me on my problem.
If you need something else, please just ask.  I am a newbie so please be
concise and verbose.

Now for the problem.  Occasionally when I start kppp (I have to have
Task Manager started to see the following) maudio uses about 93% of the
cpu and never stops!!!   the task tree is kaudioserver

| maudio.
I must kill maudio. This does not seem to bother any thing?? Except
maybe the audio!

Another symptom is if I change  virtual windows, start a terminal
windows or and do anything that changes windows fast, the system sounds
stop. Such as opening or closing windows (in linux not win9x). I do not
know if these symptoms are connected but I thought I would include all
the info I had.

Any help would be appreciated.
Charles





[newbie] resolv.conf goes to different ip as soon as ppp0 starts

2000-08-26 Thread Ed Tharp

resolv.conf goes to different ip as soon as ppp0 starts? what is  up with
that? these numbers change as soon as ppp0 starts and I open resolv.conf to
see them. any ideas? and so far I have not been sucessfull at keeping
ipchains from starting, and do not get past the error messages unless I use
the "I" option when mandrake goes into interactive phaase.





Re: [newbie] resolv.conf goes to different ip as soon as ppp0 starts

2000-08-26 Thread Greg Stewart

OK, for starters, DHCP (and you're probably using this based on your
indication of using the ppp0 interface) will dynamically assign both a host
IP address and DNS IP addresses to your machine as soon as negotiation of
your ISP account is complete. If you are manually configuring DNS addresses
that you have gotten from a different ISP, then *yes* they will change.
Nothing is "up" with it--it's supposed to be that way. Don't worry about
that, it seems it's the least of your worries.

Second, your config seems all screwed up. I'm not sure why you want to
*stop* ipchains from starting, unless you believe it's causing some
particular problem that you haven't explained. Actually ipchains would be a
good thing to have enabled on an internet connected machine because you can
configure it to stop hackers from breaking in.

In order to troubleshoot your setup, please include as detailed a
description of how you set up your interface(s) as possible. From what
you've written here, there's nothing we can do.

--Greg

 resolv.conf goes to different ip as soon as ppp0 starts? what is  up with
 that? these numbers change as soon as ppp0 starts and I open resolv.conf
to
 see them. any ideas? and so far I have not been sucessfull at keeping
 ipchains from starting, and do not get past the error messages unless I
use
 the "I" option when mandrake goes into interactive phaase.



 
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Re: [newbie] Kppp and Networking

2000-08-26 Thread Greg Stewart

OK, I take it you've switched the box connecting to the internet? If this is
working, that's not a problem.

You don't really need pmfirewall on both machines...only the one doing the
dial-up.

 I had to disable serials ports in the Bios to get both PCI Devices to work
(NIC and Modem).

I'll assume you did this on "Box1"

You have the printer on Box2, which is connecting to the internet, and
running linux.
What are you running now on Box1? If it's windows, then we'll need to set up
samba. If it's linux all-round then I think filesystem mounting will need
nfs set up (I'm not too sure about this--I'll look into it) and for printing
you'll need the lpd and lpq set up correctly on each machine. We can also do
this with samba if we need to.

Samba can be either easy, or complicated, depending on what level of
configuration you want. Also, if we edit the samba.conf file manually, it'll
take a bit of tweaking. I'll need to brush up on both before we tackle this
one.

For the printer, you should be able to go into DrakConf, and add the
printer, local for Box2, and set the lpq on Box1 (line printer queue) to
Box2's lpq.

I'm not well versed in linux printing--cause I haven't tried it yet...and
when I do, it'll be a far different story for me since my two printers are
on an HP JetDirect printserver...not connected to a computer.

I'll brish up and get back to you.

--Greg

 Hi Greg,

 Things seems to be working. I.m not using DHCP and not enabled in
 pmfirewall. Is that all right?

 Box 2- I've also have linux on it, and want to access it thru linux.
 Box2 also has the printer attached to it that I want to use.

 I got Box2  where it can access the internet and network. I had to disable
 serials ports in the Bios to get both PCI Devices to work (NIC and Modem).
 I installed pmfirewall on box2 with same options I used on Box 1.
 Now--- I want to access Box2 printer  and be able to mount  both computers
 from each other. When I try to print from Box 1 to box2 printer I get
 "unable to get offical name for local machine  Intel.localdomain"

 Names
 Box1= Intel.localdomain
 Box2=Athlon.localdomain
 As always any help would be greatly appreciated.
 Thanks
 Bob



 
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[newbie] new install

2000-08-26 Thread Heather Brian

Macmilan Software,

Hi I just purchased and registered Linux 7.1  Mandrake Complete today
8-26-2000.  I am putting it on a custom built system.  The problem I am
having is that when it see the CD-ROM and starts copying files the menu
never comes up as stated in the insulation and user guide on pg.49.  The
screen that comes up is blue but with no menus and a red line on the left
side.  It looks like the one on page 49 but with no options to select.  The
hard drive is blank with no partition and is going to be the only Operation
System on the drive.  At one time the drive had win95 on it but I used fdisk
to delete the partitions.  Tried to use Partitions magic but looks like its
designed if using dual boot system with windows.I used a bootable floppy
for windows 95 and CD-ROM drivers to DIR the CD-ROM.  I am thinking its my
video card that is causing the problems.  Please help!!

Hardware:

AMD K6 3D/300
Mitsumi CD ROM FX162T !B
ami bios 7/15/95
sis 6326 agp video card on board
creative labs sound blaster 16
32 megs sdram
pc 100 590 mother board
hardware modem TI chip set
samsung 2.1GB hard drive
DiGiview 15 " HR-55 monitor

Thank you for your time,

Brian Adams
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: [newbie] Kppp and Networking

2000-08-26 Thread Bob

Hi,

Let me clarify  .  Both boxes have win98/linux on them. I have dual booting
setup for Both. Box 1 is the one I have been working with all along. It has
External Modem on serial port 2.  It seems to be working.

I ran into problems on Box2 getting both Nic and Modem to work at same time.
Sound familar. I disabled serial ports in cmos to free up some IRQ's.
It seems to have worked.

Greg what I'm wanting to do is be able to print from Box1 to Box2 Attached
printer. I can acces the internet from either computer right now. I not
concerned with sharing an Internet connection at this time.I tried to setup
printin from box1 but it failed. I don't remember now, but It said something
about servername?
I also could use some advice on how to mount each computer where I can share
files between the two computers. I'm not very clear on this.
I would also like "later" to learn how to setup samba to go from linux to
windows, but for now I want linux to linux. I hope this clarifies what I,m
trying ---Sorry---
Earlier this summer I read some of the howto's but  got confused . I  going
to try this again.

Bob
- Original Message -
From: Greg Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Kppp and Networking


 OK, I take it you've switched the box connecting to the internet? If this
is
 working, that's not a problem.

 You don't really need pmfirewall on both machines...only the one doing the
 dial-up.

  I had to disable serials ports in the Bios to get both PCI Devices to
work
 (NIC and Modem).

 I'll assume you did this on "Box1"

 You have the printer on Box2, which is connecting to the internet, and
 running linux.
 What are you running now on Box1? If it's windows, then we'll need to set
up
 samba. If it's linux all-round then I think filesystem mounting will need
 nfs set up (I'm not too sure about this--I'll look into it) and for
printing
 you'll need the lpd and lpq set up correctly on each machine. We can also
do
 this with samba if we need to.

 Samba can be either easy, or complicated, depending on what level of
 configuration you want. Also, if we edit the samba.conf file manually,
it'll
 take a bit of tweaking. I'll need to brush up on both before we tackle
this
 one.

 For the printer, you should be able to go into DrakConf, and add the
 printer, local for Box2, and set the lpq on Box1 (line printer queue) to
 Box2's lpq.

 I'm not well versed in linux printing--cause I haven't tried it yet...and
 when I do, it'll be a far different story for me since my two printers are
 on an HP JetDirect printserver...not connected to a computer.

 I'll brish up and get back to you.

 --Greg

  Hi Greg,
 
  Things seems to be working. I.m not using DHCP and not enabled in
  pmfirewall. Is that all right?
 
  Box 2- I've also have linux on it, and want to access it thru linux.
  Box2 also has the printer attached to it that I want to use.
 
  I got Box2  where it can access the internet and network. I had to
disable
  serials ports in the Bios to get both PCI Devices to work (NIC and
Modem).
  I installed pmfirewall on box2 with same options I used on Box 1.
  Now--- I want to access Box2 printer  and be able to mount  both
computers
  from each other. When I try to print from Box 1 to box2 printer I get
  "unable to get offical name for local machine  Intel.localdomain"
 
  Names
  Box1= Intel.localdomain
  Box2=Athlon.localdomain
  As always any help would be greatly appreciated.
  Thanks
  Bob
 





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Fwd: [newbie] grub Xserver4.0 Xserver3x

2000-08-26 Thread GAPrichard

Since I got no response, I'm sending this again.  I didn't get an 
"upgrade" option when upgrading from 7.0 to 7.1, and I don't want to spend 
the time needed to go through this in expert mode if it can be avoided.  
-Gary-



How can I boot with grub into run level 3?  How can I change from 4.0 
back to Xserver 3.x (I can hardly see what I'm doing!)?
My son corrupted Windows 98 forcing a refresh install.  This completed 
but screwed up Grub, making the HDD unbootable for Win or Mandrake.  A DOS 
FDISK / MBR  solved that, as it would if it had been Lilo.  
Since I hadn't had time to play with my LM7.1 upgrade to realize I had a 
problem with it, and I didn't have many programs installed in my new install 
of 7.0 (forced to repartition for the upgrade to complete), I installed LM7.0 
again, installed RPMs, and redid the upgrade to LM7.1.  I chose Xserver4.0 
again not realizing the grey and blue horiz lines are not a feature but a bug 
which makes the screen is nearly illegible.  I thought I could change this 
when I configured my desktop, but it's a bug apparently with my Trident 
Providia 9865 video card, rather than a feature.  
How can I change back, especially since the screen is nearly illegible?  
Yes, Xserver 3.x is on the drive.
Thank you for helping me not to have to do this again!-Gary-




[newbie] Domain not Bound?

2000-08-26 Thread Jeffrey Morse

Hello all, perhaps someone could help with this small problem: I
recently made some changes to networking configuration and now when I
reboot, start Netscape or use "SU" in X Term. I get a message
saying  YPBINDProc_DOMAIN: Domain not boundI
feel like I have changed back all my previous adjustments but I still
get the same Warning. My 'LAN' shows no glitches in performance. Any
advice is appreciated.
I'm running 7.1(Helium) on a Compaq 7970,700 MHz athlon, 128MB, Server
Custom Install.Thanks Jeff


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[newbie] error on boot-up

2000-08-26 Thread Marcia Waller

Dear All, I have been using Linux Mandrake 7 for about 5 weeks now.
Everything (almost) was fine until I decided to try a different desktop last
night. I have used different ones before without a problem but last night I
used Xfce(sp?). After I logged out I shut down X and as usual it started the
power down routine. Before it was finished it just stopped somewhere and did
not quite make it to the power off part where you manually shut down your
machine. I had to push reset to get out of it and to turn off my machine.

Today I started Linux. It started as usual and went through the checks, It
showed that it was doing a dev/hda3 check forced and said all was OK. Then
it came to "remounting root filesystem in read-write mode- OK. There it just
froze and would not continue to the Console login. In other words I no
longer can get into Linux. Any suggestions? Your help will be greatly
appreciated.
Thank you. Marcia





[newbie] no carrier

2000-08-26 Thread Juggernaut

Hi...
If I want ot connect to internet, and then I get error message like this :
" No carrier". What does it mean ? I'm using kppp. Thank's a lot.

-Pungki





Re: [newbie] MySQL RPM

2000-08-26 Thread Ajudgeone

mysql.com  should be installed already though (GPL)