Re: [newbie] cool looking themes don't work (GNOME, Enlightenment, M8.1)
okay i'm not following. under gnome i have a theme selected (which changes the widgets etc... very nice, but not aqua) so when i try enlighenment (by itself or as gnomes wm) i use the aqua enlightenment theme. now it appears to use the gnome theme for the windows and the aqua theme for the title bars. are you saying i need to find the gnome aqua theme to get the windows right as well? ___ Robert MacLean - Original Message - From: "Sridhar Dhanapalan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Robert MacLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mandrake Newbie List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] cool looking themes don't work (GNOME, Enlightenment, M8.1) > On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:03:35 +0200, "Robert MacLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi > > > > My problem is that I can't get themes to work the way they should in > > Enlightenment. > > I select a theme (i'm trying to get aqua to work) but all it does is > > change enlightenment's menu, and the title bars. In the screen shots > > it changes the windows as well. Any idea how to get it to change the > > windows as well? > > I think you may be confusing GTK+ themes with Enlightenment themes. Both are > separate, and are installed independently. > > -- > Sridhar Dhanapalan > > "The best way to predict the future is to invent it." > -- informal Xerox PARC slogan > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What I did wrong
On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 16:13, Paul wrote: | Hi folks, | | Perhaps this is of help to someone: | I was futzing with procmail to sort the incoming mail, redirect | something and so on. But even when a few weeks back this appeared to | work, it did not anymore (changed a few things in .procmailrc and | thought that was the wrong thing). | | Less is true! | 1. I changed providers. The old one let me pull mail through | SMTP/postfix/mailkicks, the new one does not. | 2. I do not use fetchmail but getmail. And getmail puts files directly | in the mbox where you tell it. Mail does not run through postfix, so not | through procmail. Duh... | | What I do now (which works): | Use getmail to put mail in $HOME/mail/paul | Run formail to disect incoming mail and push it through procmail: | | formail < $HOME/mail/paul -s procmail -m $HOME/.procmailrc | | Which works fine. Then, as a safety catch, I make backup copies of the | last 2 pulled mail-loads. | That's all. It took me a while before I noticed that I had to use | formail. Told you I was dumb ;) | Paul Paul, thanks for sharing that info and your experiences. I have been tinkering with my mail retrieval over the last few days and had not even looked into getmail. Now I'm curious. I'll look for some docs on getmail. Thanks again. skinky -- But what ... is it good for? (Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM, 1968, commenting on the microchip) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] setting up proxy server
Stephen, Answer to your question is "yes". ;-) You can do either - leave them as they are or load them with Linux. That's what's so great about this, you have all the choice in the world! It all depends on what you actually want (i.e. *need*) to do. At home, I have 1 Linux box and 4 Win98 laptops. The Linux box is my firewall (using iptables), proxy server (using Squid) and SMB server for printer and file sharing (using Samba). I don't run it as a web server (yet), but if I did, I'd use Apache for that. Oh, and the more the kids use it for games (cool games in Linux!), the more chance there is I'll be chucking out some of the Win98 installs (hooray!). I think your first step, Stephen, is to clearly define what you want to *do* with all that hardware. Until you do that, it's difficult to advise you more specifically. Regards, Ron. --- Stephen Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Ron, > > Thanks for your advice. > > >Samba is an emulator for Window's SMB (Server > Message > >Block) protocol used by Windows for file and print > >sharing. Since you say you have 3 more boxes with > >Win98, then you will need to set up Samba if you > want > >file or printer sharing. However, you do not need > it > >for sharing an internet connection (Squid or even > NAT > >with IP masquerading is all you need for that). > > I have 3 Win boxes and 1 Linux box. However those 3 > Win boxes can be > easily converted to Linux box because I have mobile > racks and spare hard disks. > > My question is "can I use my Linux box as server > serving 3 Win boxes > (Win98, Win ME and Win XP) or I have to converting > all of them to Linux > boxes" ? Which software recommended would be easily > configured and > maintained to be used in the server ? > > >As for what Dave meant by cached without being > >connected - basically if a web page is in cache, > Squid > >will serve it up even if it is not connected. But > I > >think he was refering to WWWoffle (I don't know > it). > > It sounds similarly to certain software in Win > environment which can > download the whole website allowing you browsing it > off line. > > B.R. > Stephen Liu > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Odd files...
On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 23:16:55 -0500, "Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > > > It may help to say what you are using to navigate through your directory > > structure. > > > > -- > > Sridhar Dhanapalan > > Umm, thats ls or dir from a command line...or clicking on /home/darklord from > the desktop...(Konqueror - I suppose). That's what I was looking for. Konqueror (and I think Nautilus as well) saves the view settings for each directory in a .directory file (it's a GNOME format that KDE has adopted, like .desktop files). To turn it off, click "View Properties Saved in DIrectory" in the Settings menu. P.S. Congrats on the marriage :) -- Sridhar Dhanapalan "It is easy to be blinded to the essential uselessness of computers by the sense of accomplishment you get from getting them to work at all." -- Douglas Adams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] cool looking themes don't work (GNOME, Enlightenment, M8.1)
Hi My problem is that I can't get themes to work the way they should in Enlightenment. I select a theme (i'm trying to get aqua to work) but all it does is change enlightenment's menu, and the title bars. In the screen shots it changes the windows as well. Any idea how to get it to change the windows as well? ___ Robert MacLean Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] netatalk
Hello! Did anybody success in installing netatalk on Mandrake 8.1? When I want to install it, the installer complains about an incompatibility with glibc. It doesn't surprise me since there is usually no way to get software running at once, but I really would like to install it. Maybe it would be a smart idea to have a native support in one of the next Mandake releases... Thanks for any hint. Pascal Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] sendmail
how bout: service sendmail start or: /etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail start that assumes you installed the mandrake sendmail packages,, or a redhat set I guess... if you compiled it yourself, fraid you are on your own.. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 31 October 2001 3:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] sendmail Hello I installed sendmail on my Mandrake distro and wanted to test it with 'telnet localhost 25' but got the message: Trying 127.0.0.1... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Verbindungsaufbau abgelehnt Okay, no problem, I first have to start it of course. So let's go in linuxconf under 'system' 'control-panel' 'services' and start sendmail. But, o shit, there is no sendmail listed ? Help, any idea how to start sendmail and let in appear in the control-panel? Regards Yvan -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] sendmail
Hello I installed sendmail on my Mandrake distro and wanted to test it with 'telnet localhost 25' but got the message: Trying 127.0.0.1... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Verbindungsaufbau abgelehnt Okay, no problem, I first have to start it of course. So let's go in linuxconf under 'system' 'control-panel' 'services' and start sendmail. But, o shit, there is no sendmail listed ? Help, any idea how to start sendmail and let in appear in the control-panel? Regards Yvan -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] setting up proxy server
Hi Ron, Thanks for your advice. >Samba is an emulator for Window's SMB (Server Message >Block) protocol used by Windows for file and print >sharing. Since you say you have 3 more boxes with >Win98, then you will need to set up Samba if you want >file or printer sharing. However, you do not need it >for sharing an internet connection (Squid or even NAT >with IP masquerading is all you need for that). I have 3 Win boxes and 1 Linux box. However those 3 Win boxes can be easily converted to Linux box because I have mobile racks and spare hard disks. My question is "can I use my Linux box as server serving 3 Win boxes (Win98, Win ME and Win XP) or I have to converting all of them to Linux boxes" ? Which software recommended would be easily configured and maintained to be used in the server ? >As for what Dave meant by cached without being >connected - basically if a web page is in cache, Squid >will serve it up even if it is not connected. But I >think he was refering to WWWoffle (I don't know it). It sounds similarly to certain software in Win environment which can download the whole website allowing you browsing it off line. B.R. Stephen Liu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Strange Mount Problem
When I boot md 8.1 and try to transfer a file from my home partition to my vfat partition I receive an error message "Can't write to /dev/win_d". The strange thing is that if I unmount the vfat partition and remount it I can then transfer the file to the vfat partition. Is there one file or process that configures the partition on boot and another when I unmount/remount the partition. Has any one got any clues to where I may start looking. Nev Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hehehe
On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 06:44:34AM +0100, hellmut wrote: > Better would be rm -rf /usr/bin/laden;o) > > > rm -r usr/bin/laden or as I saw in a .signature on Slashdot: chmod +x /bin/laden -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New MusicSilence: the John Cage Discussion List | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hehehe
On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:12, Jennifer wrote: > rm -r usr/bin/laden Hehe... and just to be on the safe side: # rm -Rf /bin/laden skinky -- But what ... is it good for? (Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM, 1968, commenting on the microchip) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hehehe
Better would be rm -rf /usr/bin/laden;o) > rm -r usr/bin/laden > > -- > 9:12pm up 15 days, 52 min, 2 users, load average: 0.39, 0.19, 0.06 > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- , (o o) +oOOO--(_)---+ || | H E L L M U T | || +---0OOO-+ | _ | _ | | | | | | | | | ooO Ooo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] setting up proxy server
Stephen, Apache is a web server - it serves up web pages to browsers on request. Squid is a(n) HTTP Proxy Server. This is different - a browser can connect to a proxy server, rather than directly to the web. The proxy server then connects to the web on your behalf, retrieves your web pages and then serves them to you. This may sound like a extra step to achieve the same result (i.e. of browsing pages) - the advantages are that it (a) can cache those pages very efficiently and (b) can deliver cached pages to multiple users who all connect to it. This has the effect overall of increasing your web-surfing experience, particularly in a networked environment with multiple computers. Samba is an emulator for Window's SMB (Server Message Block) protocol used by Windows for file and print sharing. Since you say you have 3 more boxes with Win98, then you will need to set up Samba if you want file or printer sharing. However, you do not need it for sharing an internet connection (Squid or even NAT with IP masquerading is all you need for that). Can't comment on MySql - don't know it. SQL by itself stands for Structured Query Language - used by relational databases. I didn't know it was a product! As for what Dave meant by cached without being connected - basically if a web page is in cache, Squid will serve it up even if it is not connected. But I think he was refering to WWWoffle (I don't know it). Of course the computers have to be connected to each other! ;-)) Hope this helps, Ron. --- Stephen Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Dave, > > For files storage and retrieval, which ranks first, > MySql or Sql ? For web > server which will be better, Apache or Squid ? > > At 05:26 PM 10/30/2001 -0500, you wrote: > > > I'm running 3 boxes with 8.1 here and would like > to set one of these up > > > as a proxy server.What is the best way to > accomplish this? With squid > > > perhaps..or is Samba a better way to do > this(there are 3 more boxes > > > running 98se). > > > >Samba is not a proxy server. If all you want is to > serve web pages etc, then > >Squid is good, I personally user WWWoffle which is > an offline explorer. It > >allows you to browse pages that are cached without > being connected. > > Kindly advise " ... that are cached without being > connected", without > connected to Internet or without linking up the > boxes ? If without linking > up the boxes, then how can files in the server be > retrieved ? > > Thanks in advance. > > B.R. > Stephen Liu > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Category 5 cable question
What are you doing that needs that kind of speed? Miark - Original Message - From: "Tuan Tran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 12:27 PM Subject: [newbie] Category 5 cable question > I just bought a 1,000ft CAT5 cable. On the box it show "UL Type CM/MP". > My question is what is type CM/MP? Will it be able to run at 1,000mps? > Thank you. > Tuan > > > _ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] fonts for user restricted in 8.1
On Tuesday 30 October 2001 20:24, you wrote: > am i the only person to find the available list of fonts for a user to be > much restricted from the list available to root in kde in 8.1, esp > helvetica which is not listed in any dialogue as a user and which i have > always used > > bascule No, I have noticed it also. I have been exploring off and on to see if I could find how to get them in a position to use all of them. So far ? -- Dennis M. registered linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] wordperfect pre-reqs
On Tuesday 30 October 2001 06:41 pm, Bill Winegarden wrote: > Hi, > I am re-installing WP8 after installing LM8.1. I seem to remember that I > had to install some lib rpm but I can't remember which one. Anyone? > > TIA, > Bill W. Yep, it's a libc5. I use an old redhat package: libc5-1.0-2.i386.rpm -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] fonts for user restricted in 8.1
am i the only person to find the available list of fonts for a user to be much restricted from the list available to root in kde in 8.1, esp helvetica which is not listed in any dialogue as a user and which i have always used bascule Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] wordperfect pre-reqs
Hi, I am re-installing WP8 after installing LM8.1. I seem to remember that I had to install some lib rpm but I can't remember which one. Anyone? TIA, Bill W. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SAMBA and WEBMIN inaccessible
On Tuesday 30 October 2001 02:44, Mark Annandale wrote: > > where I was the first time I tried to install 8.1. Install goes fine, but > > once up and mail configured I can dial up and appear to be connected to > > the server, but no mail and no internet. Has anyone else experienced this > > with the 8.1 d/l'd 3 cd set? I can not for the life of me remember what > > I > > Hi there > > I'm sure this is the same problem I had. I went for the automatic network > detection setup (this is a stand alone machine with a dial up link), > Mandrake 8.1 appeared to have set up my NIC (I know its stand alone, but > has a network card) as the default route to the internet. So I could dial > up as well but get no mail. > > I did a reinstall and turned off the automatic network setup, and just > selected the modem access option and everything was fine. Then set up the > network card seperately. > > I hope this helps you as I think I just confused myself again. > > Regards > > Mark A Ok, that was the trick, Dark Lord came back with it also. It requires an "ifdown eth0" from a su console and then once connected you can "ifup eth0" and all is well. Strangeness! Thanks again for the help in jogging my memory. -- Dennis M. registered linux user #180842 -- Dennis M. registered linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Lunacy!
On Tuesday 30 October 2001 12:34, you wrote: > Had a great time, wonderful conferences, met some really cool Linux people. > I talked/shook hands with: > > John "Maddog" Hall > Richard Stallman > Michael Johnson > Eric Raymnond > > And many more! Food was good, ship was grand, (new) wife was -great-. > ;- > > Later guys! Welcome back and once again congratulations on the marriage. Any really good news on upcoming features of linux? Tell us any secrets you found out on the cruise. -- Dennis M. registered linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Category 5 cable question
"Johnson, David" wrote: > > I don't know about the UL specifications, but CAT5 is not rated at > 1,000mbps. It may work, but there will be no guarantee. CAT5 is designed > to be rock-solid at up to 100mbps. If you want 1000baseT, you'll need to > bump up to CAT5e or CAT6 (the latter is VERY expensive) otherwise, you take > your chances. > > -Original Message- > From: Tuan Tran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 11:28 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [newbie] Category 5 cable question > > I just bought a 1,000ft CAT5 cable. On the box it show "UL Type CM/MP". > My question is what is type CM/MP? Will it be able to run at 1,000mps? > Thank you. > Tuan > > _ Tuan: "UL Type CM/MP" _probably_ refers to the type of construction, insulation, materials, etc., and _not_ to its transmission properties. UL's primary interest is in safety and fire prevention. For example, other CAT5 cables may be listed with different types depending on the intended usage. One type may be suitable for usage out of doors, another in high temperature environments, another in environments were chemical attack may be of concern, and yet another may be restricted to equipment enclosures. (I have some experience with UL standards for power wiring, so I could be wrong...) Regards, Carroll Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Virtual desktops in Linux-Mandrake and XP
I appreciate everybodies help it's just some of the emails I get I am clueless to. Talking about codes, mounts, etc etc etc. I'm lost. I ask a question and I get a breakdown of the system and how to manipulate the code. Not that I don't appreciate it, but I'm confused even worse. I'm not a programmer, I'm a mechanic with no intentiions of becoming a programmer or network administrator. I just like using the computer alot. Playing games, surfing the net and chatting. I'm just sick of windows fubaring every 20 minutes or my downloads are lost because I got disconnected because windows used up all my ram. And "I think thats your problem" wasn't meant as a slam or anything. It was just in general as in that's my opinion of the problem. Example: I think you have a problem with your lifters slapping the top of your pistons. It's not you it's the car. Don't take it personal wasn't directed at you. But anyways I am pleased with Mandrake, it just seems that most of the newbies are wicked smart with linux, unlike me. Metamorphysical a.k.a. Clueless On Tuesday 30 October 2001 14:39, you wrote: > I don't know to whom you implied the "I think thats your problem." > > Personally, many here and everywhere would love to see Microsoft disappear > from the face of the earth. Personally, I am currently running > Linux-Mandrake 8.0, MacOS X, and WindowsXP. I love them all. Personally, I > wish I could get them in all into one box and just shift between all three. > I have Mandrake newbie since the beginning of March. I am learning and will > be learning this and many other things until the day I die or go into a > coma. Its only hard until you learn and someone takes the time to help. > This list is very helpful, but like anywhere else there are those with the > patience while others with the best intentions don't quite have that > "understanding patience" with you. > > Anyone can learn anything if they are committederr dedicated not > locked up in an insane asylum. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Category 5 cable question
I don't know about the UL specifications, but CAT5 is not rated at 1,000mbps. It may work, but there will be no guarantee. CAT5 is designed to be rock-solid at up to 100mbps. If you want 1000baseT, you'll need to bump up to CAT5e or CAT6 (the latter is VERY expensive) otherwise, you take your chances. -Original Message- From: Tuan Tran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 11:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Category 5 cable question I just bought a 1,000ft CAT5 cable. On the box it show "UL Type CM/MP". My question is what is type CM/MP? Will it be able to run at 1,000mps? Thank you. Tuan _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing new rpms from disks
Hmm Ok, mounting stuff under MDK 8.1 isn't nearly as easy as it was under 8.0, at least not for me but I'll explain what I do on my machine and with a bit of luck, it will work the same for you. I have three cd-rom drives in my machine, well, one cd-rom, one dvd-rom, and one cd-rw. Anyway, pull up a console and login as root. You do this by typing "su" without the " of course. Hit enter and then type your password. You now should have a root console. Next try typing: mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom That may or may not work. It works on mine to mount the cd-rw drive since it's the primary drive. If that doesn't work, you can try this: mount /mnt/cdrom That might work also. You should get a message saying something to the effect of it's a read only device so it's mounting it read only. If neither of the above works, then you'll need to determine what device your machine sees your drive as. I'll let someone else explain how to do that. The fstab is a file systems tab file. It tells your system which file systems you have, where they are, and where to mount them. It is located in the /etc folder. I still haven't gotten mine just right on either machine that I run Mandrake on. Each one has a different set of problems. -Gary On Tuesday 30 October 2001 03:35 pm, you wrote: > One word "Huh?". > > Mounting cd's at the command prompt? > And what does fstab mean? > > I am clueless to all of this. I'm newbie of newbies really. > I know what the command prompt is but I don't know squat of commands. > Does linux have a page of command definitions or something I could look up > and print out? > > Sorry > > Rob > > - Original Message - > From: "Gary Traffanstedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 3:11 PM > Subject: Re: [newbie] Installing new rpms from disks > > > I had a similar problem. For me I just needed to manually mount the cd > > and then it would use it. It ejects the tray, I put the cd in, close the > > tray > > and > > > click ok, then it ejects the tray again and repeats the same message. I > > finally figured out that if I simply mount the cd on the command line > > after > > > inserting it, but before I click on continue in the dialog prompt, it > > would > > > take it just fine. Obviously I need to do a bit more work on my fstab! > > So try manually mounting it after you stick it in and see if that works. > > > > -Gary > > > > On Tuesday 30 October 2001 02:08 pm, you wrote: > > > I'm trying to install more programs from disk. I go through the list > > > it has in the software manager then I select install. > > > It asks for disk three I put in disk 3 it goes a couple of seconds then > > > spits it back out. A message pops up saying: Please inster the medium > > > named "disc 3 Supplementary Applications CD (x86) (cdrom3)" on device > > > [/dev/cdrom] > > > > > > Now I have two cdroms, and I had troubles with the one that pops out in > > > windows for some reason. I was wondering if there is a way to change > > the > > > > cdrom it uses? > > > > > > I'm lost please help > > --- >- > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] ISA sound PCI modem and IRQ4
30Oct01 1617hrs Ct Hello My ATX Plll 600, with a Asus CUBX MB has a Crystal isa sound card and a Zoom PCI Modem. Both of these worked in MDK 7.2 With the PNP turned off in the bios, W98 detects sound on IRQ5 and the modem on IRQ4...in this configuration the hardware functions nicely. In MDK8 both are assigned IRQ4...in conflict.How can I convince Linux to use IRQ5 for the sound card? I need some command similar to "setserial" that will assign IRQ's? "setirq" 8-). Is there a way to change this? or should I sell the PC and buy a gameboy?8-) thanks for any suggestions -- Olly P RV Char 257 Biloxi Mississippi Mailed W98 via Forte Agent mailer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] inscription Mandrake
On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 17:28:46 +0100 Cédric IUNG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > subscribe newbie > See http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/UnsubscribingFromMailingLists. It should also work for subscribing :) Note the difference between the email address of the list and the address to send (un)subscribe requests to. -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Installing new rpms from disks
Aside from the previous fix, you could also copy the contents of all three CD's to your hard drive and point the Package Manager to these new directories, as sources. I did this for expediancy. -JMS |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Robert Beach |Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 3:08 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: [newbie] Installing new rpms from disks | | |I'm trying to install more programs from disk. I go through |the list it has |in the software manager then I select install. |It asks for disk three I put in disk 3 it goes a couple of |seconds then spits |it back out. A message pops up saying: Please inster the |medium named "disc |3 Supplementary Applications CD (x86) (cdrom3)" on device [/dev/cdrom] | |Now I have two cdroms, and I had troubles with the one that |pops out in |windows for some reason. I was wondering if there is a way to |change the |cdrom it uses? | |I'm lost please help | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing new rpms from disks
One word "Huh?". Mounting cd's at the command prompt? And what does fstab mean? I am clueless to all of this. I'm newbie of newbies really. I know what the command prompt is but I don't know squat of commands. Does linux have a page of command definitions or something I could look up and print out? Sorry Rob - Original Message - From: "Gary Traffanstedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Installing new rpms from disks > > I had a similar problem. For me I just needed to manually mount the cd and > then it would use it. It ejects the tray, I put the cd in, close the tray and > click ok, then it ejects the tray again and repeats the same message. I > finally figured out that if I simply mount the cd on the command line after > inserting it, but before I click on continue in the dialog prompt, it would > take it just fine. Obviously I need to do a bit more work on my fstab! > So try manually mounting it after you stick it in and see if that works. > > -Gary > > > On Tuesday 30 October 2001 02:08 pm, you wrote: > > I'm trying to install more programs from disk. I go through the list it > > has in the software manager then I select install. > > It asks for disk three I put in disk 3 it goes a couple of seconds then > > spits it back out. A message pops up saying: Please inster the medium > > named "disc 3 Supplementary Applications CD (x86) (cdrom3)" on device > > [/dev/cdrom] > > > > Now I have two cdroms, and I had troubles with the one that pops out in > > windows for some reason. I was wondering if there is a way to change the > > cdrom it uses? > > > > I'm lost please help > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Odd files...
On Tuesday 30 October 2001 19:28, you wrote: > Under v8.1, I've got some odd files in my /home/darklord directory. > Everytime I go into a directory inside of my /home/darklord dir., it > leaves a text file named "whateverdirectory.directory". (for example > "Animation.directory") > > How do I turn this "feature" off? It's most likely your file browser that is littering your hard disk like this. In a terminal, type less whatever.directory and have a look at the contents. It may tell you what app created it -- Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa) [EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za http://www.geocities.com/clasqm This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC f u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb n nx dmnstrtn . Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Re: [newbie] List
On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 03:18, S. Gordon von Miller wrote: | Hello | | I seem to have a problem sending questions to the list. I get the list | o.k. but nothing that I send to the list appears. I sent one yesteray | and this morning with the subject "Venus Virge DGX Video Card". Did you | receive it? I can't seem to find a problem with my email. | | Thanks. | | Gordon No, I didn't get that one Gordon. I've been having problems with mail arriving at their destinations sometimes days later - but I'm sure my ISP is having mail server problems. What apps are you using to send your email? I'd be the last person able to help with smtp, etc, but its possible that there is a problem with your settings. If you like, you can post directly to my email address and I'll forward them to the list in the hope that someone can help you get it sorted. Good luck skinky -- But what ... is it good for? (Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM, 1968, commenting on the microchip) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Virtual desktops in Linux-Mandrake and XP
sadly, you need multiple video cards, though there are a few cards that come with multiple outs (like getting two cards for the price of. well 2. they aren't cheap if i recall) though. i can look up an old review i recall if you want. On Tuesday 30 October 2001 11:40, you spoke unto me thusly: > Now that is interesting! How do you hook up multiple monitors, hardware > wise, to display something like that? -- One of the surest signs of intelligent in outer space is that it hasn't contacted us yet. shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] MSN.com and MS in general.
I don't think the outcome will be like that, I think the outcome would be a lot of pissed of IE users who will have nothing but bad things to say about your website and about our FSF/GNU/Linux community. I tend to agree with the guy that said you should make your web site browser friendly for all. This shouldn't be a political or religious battle. I don't think the majority of web users will be as empathetic as you think. Just think if you put a message like that on sourceforge.net a lot of folks coming to that site would probablly get really peeved that sourceforge was trying to make some sort of statement about a user's choice in browsers. Just live and let live... it's not that big of a deal. I'd say if your browser doesn't work right on a specific web site, write the webmaster of the site and let him or her know and if you don't get results start a petition and ask others to write to the webmaster as well. > -Original Message- > From: Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 1:47 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] MSN.com and MS in general. > > > Don't think of it as an "eye for an eye" but rather a passive > protest to the > shut out of non Internet Explorer. If this is kept > respectable in regards to > the user who might encounter the message it would bring > across the problem > faced by non IE users. Most here wouldn't visit msn.com but > the fact that > their favorite or preferred web browser is being blocked out > can and does > infuriate many. > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing new rpms from disks
I had a similar problem. For me I just needed to manually mount the cd and then it would use it. It ejects the tray, I put the cd in, close the tray and click ok, then it ejects the tray again and repeats the same message. I finally figured out that if I simply mount the cd on the command line after inserting it, but before I click on continue in the dialog prompt, it would take it just fine. Obviously I need to do a bit more work on my fstab! So try manually mounting it after you stick it in and see if that works. -Gary On Tuesday 30 October 2001 02:08 pm, you wrote: > I'm trying to install more programs from disk. I go through the list it > has in the software manager then I select install. > It asks for disk three I put in disk 3 it goes a couple of seconds then > spits it back out. A message pops up saying: Please inster the medium > named "disc 3 Supplementary Applications CD (x86) (cdrom3)" on device > [/dev/cdrom] > > Now I have two cdroms, and I had troubles with the one that pops out in > windows for some reason. I was wondering if there is a way to change the > cdrom it uses? > > I'm lost please help Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Installing new rpms from disks
I'm trying to install more programs from disk. I go through the list it has in the software manager then I select install. It asks for disk three I put in disk 3 it goes a couple of seconds then spits it back out. A message pops up saying: Please inster the medium named "disc 3 Supplementary Applications CD (x86) (cdrom3)" on device [/dev/cdrom] Now I have two cdroms, and I had troubles with the one that pops out in windows for some reason. I was wondering if there is a way to change the cdrom it uses? I'm lost please help Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Script for Log Extraction
Hello, I have a text file that looks like this on Linux: --- ^M 01:23:00 ^M 23 Oct. 2001 Bobo Permitted ^M I need to filter records based a name (Bobo), but also need the line that is two lines above. For example, I can do: # more Log_October_2001 | grep Bobo This will give me 22 records for example, anyone know how I can also see the line that also has the time stamp? i.e., two lines above, so I can get the following output: 01:23:00 23 Oct. 2001 Bobo Permitted Many thanks!! Robert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] success story - media player
cheers to the developers of XINE...a really sweet multimedia app. i would dare to say the BEST media player ever made! if you guys are looking for a nice media player that works on your linux box, i would definitely try it. it plays EVERYTHING. yes, everything. even DVDs for you picky smarty pants types. :) http://xine.sourceforge.net/ -- ==//> Jeffrey Michael Reed ==//> Metro West Boston Linux User Group ==//> Co-founder/Administrator ==//> HTML, PHP, GNU/Linux ==//> ==//> Phunky Phresh stuff about... ==//> GNU/Linux, Hacking, Humor, ==//> Movies, Music, Programming, ==//> and Underground News about ==//> the Revolution... ==//> ==//> http://www.linuxbusca.com ==//> ==//> Favorite OS: Debian ==//> Favorite food: Lasagna ==//> Favorite brew: Guinness ==//> Favorite music: Mr. Bungle Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MSN.com and MS in general.
Don't think of it as an "eye for an eye" but rather a passive protest to the shut out of non Internet Explorer. If this is kept respectable in regards to the user who might encounter the message it would bring across the problem faced by non IE users. Most here wouldn't visit msn.com but the fact that their favorite or preferred web browser is being blocked out can and does infuriate many. Galeon for whatever reason works fine and although I use Galeon for visit KDE themes and TechTV I normally don't see msn.com until I boot into XP and log on to check my msn mail. Honestly, speaking I have never seen a web page that was so awesome, graphics scenes aside, that I had to get into that I was willing to give up my browser for another. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MSN.com and MS in general.
>I might be wrong -- not saying ms was right to block browsers -- but I >thought that ms was concerned about css, not javascript. You're approach >addresses javascript, not css. I'm sure you know this, but I'll say it just >to make my point clear: For css, you have to check for browser type, not >for javascript objects. While css and javascript can be combined they are >two seperate things, and if you think that your page won't *display* >properly due to css issues, then you should check for browser type. That's >what I do. Oftentimes you need a css sheet for netscape and another css >sheet for internet explorer. (I'm new to linux, so not sure if I'll need >yet another for unix systems.) > Actually, I have never had to have 'separate' stylesheets for the different browsers. I take the time to develop a template that will work properly in all browsers (or at the very least, Netscape 4.7x, Netscape 6.x, Mozilla .9x, and Opera on a variety of platforms). For other browsers, I make sure that my website will 'degrade gracefully' (ie, making sure that the website is actually readable in text based browsers (such as lynx, links) and earlier versions of netscape and IE). Granted, that such attention makes a prototype take longer to develop. The last one I did that was cross - browser / cross - os took me about 4-5 months to design, develop, and perfect. However, using php or jsp or for that matter cfm, I can have a single template -- meaning that all I have to do, is include the template with each page, and therefore have content / layout / style independence (ie, the styles are all in a stylesheet, layout is handled in a template file, and content is added to another file (where the 'template' is included). After that, I can add content to my hearts content, or for that matter, change out the template for a new design within a matter of minutes. By the way, for those who are wondering, I've been dealing with web design / development for over 6 years now. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems & Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] midi playback problem
On Tuesday 30 October 2001 01:59 pm, you wrote: > I have an SBLive. I haven't done any configuring on it (because I > have no clue how it's done), but I suppose that Mandrake has configured > it as it saw fit. MP3's are playing fine with xmms, but I can't > play midi files: (x)playmidi says it can't find a playback device. > How do I get the system to acknowledge the fact that I _do_ have one? > > +Cinquo I'm having that same problem myself with my home computer. I also have a SB Live card, and can play MP3's fine thru XMMS or Noatun, but when I tried to adjust the volume settings for my card through KDE Sound Mixer, there wasn't anything listed there. Even when I went to create a new tab, I couldn't select from anything. It's kinda like KDE didn't know there was a sound card available, but could still play the opening .wav files as well as MP3's .. I haven't actually tried to play a MIDI file though. -- Terry Sheltra PC Technician/Network Administrator University of Virginia School of Architecture [EMAIL PROTECTED] 434 (or 804) 982.3047 Registered Linux User #218330 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Virtual desktops in Linux-Mandrake and XP
Now that is interesting! How do you hook up multiple monitors, hardware wise, to display something like that? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] GDM and Xscreensaver
How do i enable xscreensaver when running X (Enlightenment) through GDM? I've got it working with .xinitrc when I startx in console, but .xinitrc or .xsession don`t work for GDM. It`s just me or there's another way Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing Linux Mandrake 8.1 after WinXP
Well, for me I have it in a dual boot but I added XP on 9GB harddrive I had lying around. XP is now in the NTFS. There doesn't seem to be any trouble with Linux-Mandrake 8.0 and XP. I don't know if Linux can see XP, but there seems no trouble so far. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Need to span multiple hard drives
Hi Sridhar; I looked at and installed LVM (or thought I did) a while back to try to seamlessly expand my /usr partition, however, When I actually went to install the additional applications mandrake did NOT seem to notice that the LVM partition existed, (maybe I need a step by step procedure on setting LVM up in the mandrake partitioning options). When I went into KDE monitor to look at the partition information, it didn't even list the LVM partition AT ALL, that I THOUGHT I had previously defined (it didn't see it), consequently mandrakes installer still showed I had ONLY the defined /usr partition space and NO MORE, it see's the /usr partition and only that partition when I attempt to install any more "rpm" packages and there isn't any option to change where those "rpm" packages get installed, they seem to default to the /usr partition period, at least so far they do. I would appreciate it if you could spell out a step by step procedure to setup an LVM as an expanded /usr partition. Not knowing what else to do to correct things manually , I have re-installed mandrake A BUNCH of times to correct apparent problems so there is really no data to worry about losing, not yet anyhow, but there needs to be a better way to resolve gliches other than scuttling everything and starting over, I am just not experienced enough to know to what to do if for example the system seems to hang on bootup while it takes forever to "create a folder" in some unknown path because it wants to see one that doesn't yet exist, I hate that when it happens. I tried to use the "rescue" option, but then it comes up with somewhat cryptic options that I as a new Linux user don't understand and I am once AGAIN at a loss as to what to do, OTHER THAN "RE-INSTALL". THERE NEEDS TO BE A "FIX IT, WHATEVER IT IS OPTION" HA HAAA HAAA, there was once a TV character that had a very appropriate expression, "HANDLE IT, HANDLE IT", well that's exactly the way I feel about the situation sometimes, I wish there was an option that would just "HANDLE IT", hee he... Thanks for responding. > The best way would be to use LVM, but this requires a repartitioning of > your drive (which means that you'd lose your data). > > A simpler (but messier) way would be to use symlinks to move a directory > to another partition. For example, you can move the content of /usr/lib to > another partition and then use a symlink in /usr to point to it. > > -- > Sridhar Dhanapalan > > "I wrote code that works. I didn't test it, but the discussion is closed. > It might have syntactic problems, but it does work. Better than any kernel > extension ever would. End of story." -- Linus Torvalds > > - Rick Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] locale?
In the course of trying to upgrade GNOME from RPMs, I got errors complaining about setting "locale" which printed out a whole lot of variables. I'm now continuing to get errors about it. For example, starting emacs consistently gives me: Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged How can I fix this? -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New MusicSilence: the John Cage Discussion List | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] startx and kde
On Tuesday 30 October 2001 12:08 pm, you wrote: > I think it has to be spelled as "Gnome", with a capital G. I normally use > GDM, so I haven't done this in a while. > > On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:51:44 -0500, "Johnson, David" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The best way if you are using startx to start your window manager is to use a open a text editor and type the following: exec gnome-session Save the file in your home directory and name it .xinitrc (notice the dot in front of the x) Now when you type startx it will load the gnome window manager. For kde: exec startkde Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Delete dead Nautilus?
On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 09:12:40 -0800, Gregory Margo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I use the Gnome desktop w/sawfish under LM 8.1. For the first few days I was > really annoyed at Nautilus because it would bring up a new filesystem > browser everytime I inserted a CDROM. I was installing packages so > it was happening quite frequently. (And frankly Nautilus seems like > incredibly slow bloatware to me.) > > I could not figure out how to tell Nautilus to not "autorun." I don't use > "autorun" under Windows and don't want to use it under Linux either. > > Then one day, Nautilus simply quit showing up. I have no idea why, > although I was delighted because it made the "autorun" problem go away. > However, now I have no icons on the desktop. I don't really care about > that either since I never used those icons for anything. > > So Nautilus is obviously not necessary for running Gnome. > How do I remove it? Rpm reports that the nautilus package provides > the "gnome-desktop" capabilty, which is required by the gnome-core > package. > > Is it improper for gnome-core to depend on Nautilus? > Can Nautilus be deleted? > Can Nautilus be instructed how to behave? > Can Nautilus be brought back from the dead? > > thanks in advance, > gm A great thing about GNOME is its flexibility. For example, you can have either GMC or Nautilus to manage your desktop, or you can choose to have neither. Nautilus is still very much a work in progress, and at present it is quite slow and heavy. Nautilus 1.0.5 is a little faster than the 1.0.4 included in Mandrake. Disabling it, as you have inadvertantly done, is the best way to speed up GNOME. There is an option in the Preferences to tell it to manage your desktop (you need to be in Advanced mode) or not. You can then use Nautilus as a standalone file manager. Now, you can either have GMC (which is much faster) managing your desktop or nothing at all. To remove Nautilus entirely, you need to uninstall the nautilus, nautilus-mozilla and the nautilus-devel (if present) packages. However, I would advise against it since it is a major part of GNOME. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -- Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Odd files...
On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:28:31 -0500, "Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Under v8.1, I've got some odd files in my /home/darklord directory. Everytime > I go into a directory inside of my /home/darklord dir., it leaves a text file > named "whateverdirectory.directory". (for example "Animation.directory") > > How do I turn this "feature" off? > > Thanks much! It may help to say what you are using to navigate through your directory structure. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan "The linux kernel has had an interesting release pattern: usually the .0 release was actually fairly good (there's almost always something stupid, but on the whole not really horrible). And every single time so far, .1 has been worse. It usually takes until something like .5 until it has caught up and surpassed the stability of .0 again." -- Linus Torvalds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MSN.com and MS in general.
On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:01:25 -0600, Gary Traffanstedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't think designing sites that don't work in IE is the answer. I > also don't think designing sites that are 100% cross-browser compatible is > really an answer either. Microsoft has done a lot to ensure that certain > things only work or work better with their products. To combat this, if > anyone cares to combat this, a better product or service is need in each > instance. For example, IE owns the browser market for one reason. It is > simply better. Yes it has problems. It has a lot of problems but overall, it > IS the best browser available for Windows users which happen to make up a > large share of computer users. "better" and "best" are very subjective terms. IE's 'advantages' have come at the expense of several essential things, like security. I've already gone over this in excessive detail - if you want a copy I can send it to you. > I primarily use Linux and on Linux I like Mozilla. I'm using .9.4 and > it works great. With each new release, it only gets better. Or at least that > is what I hear... haven't been able to get .9.5 to run yet but that's my own > fault. Back to the point If those who are passionate about Linux and the > Linux way of life, do something to show your support. Contribute to the cause > in any way that you can. That's why we're on this list, helping others such as yourself :) There's no use in coding apps if nobody can use them. That's where we come in. It is this kind of community (a "bazaar", as ESR would call it) that makes open source development so great. > If you use Mozilla, and you find a problem with it, let the > developers know of the problem. They can't test everything themselves and if > you point out it's flaws, in a constructive way, that will assist them in > making it far superior to Internet Exploiter. Yep, and Bugzilla (developed by the Mozilla Project) makes this very easy to do. > It's not quite a level field that we play on, but it's getting > better. Two years ago I struggled to get any distro installed. Today I can > slap a cd in the drive and have my choice of a variety of distros running in > under 30 minutes. The installation process had greatly improved. The wealth > of applications have improved accross the board. More and more people are > turning to Linux, not just as an operating system, but as a way of life. I > use it because it's open, not because it's free. "free" is another subjective term. Do you mean "free" as in "freedom"? Or do you mean "free" as in "free beer"? We can't expect to have a level playing field on any MS OS. Microsoft will ensure that competitors are placed at a disadvantage. This is why it is important for us to develop an open, free (as in 'freedom') platform, to create a level playing field. > Just think where Linux would be if only half of the dollars spent on > Windows development was spent inproving Linux and Linux apps it's just a > matter of time really Windows has been to the top of the mountain... they > are there now... but the edge is ever closer... and the end is ever > nearer. the penguin is coming, and the empire will crumble. Not because > of the government or any court case, but because of the will of the people. > The MS way of thinking "If you can make it good, make it look good" can only > last so long. Of course, governments are helping things long. Almost every government outside North America is seriously considering using open source software, and some nations have already adopted GNU/Linux as their primary OS. > The truth is, MS products are more looks than substance and that > shall be their downfall. Very true :) Has anybody noticed how similar WinXP looks to the scenes from The Tellytubbies? I am referring to the bright colours and the default wallpaper with the rolling green hills and the blue sky with fluffy white clouds. Funny, eh? Oh, and anybody interested in XP should have a read of this: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/22533.html. > -Gary -- Sridhar Dhanapalan What's this script doing? unzip ; touch ; finger ; mount ; gasp ; yes ; umount ; sleep. Hint: not everything is computer-oriented. Sometimes you're in a sleeping bag, camping out with your girlfriend. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Virtual/real desktops in Linux-Mandrake
I think the command is "startx :1" from a console (not xterm) to start a second X instance. I'm working off memory here, so I could be wrong. You can probably find more info at mandrakeuser.org or xfree86.org. On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:21:49 -0700, shane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > say you mean it sid, i have been dieing to do that with kde/enlightenment. > how do i go about pointing a second x server to tty 6 for example? is there > a good net resource for this? > > On Tuesday 30 October 2001 06:23, you spoke unto me thusly: > > > > You can even have different X sessions (not just desktops) on the same > > machine and the same monitor. All you need to do is map them to different > > ttys. For example, I could have one session with GNOME loaded, and another > > totally separate one with KDE loaded. I could switch between them with the > > ctrl+alt+function keys. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan Help Microsoft stamp out software piracy. Give GNU/Linux to a friend today. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Binary newsreader
If you have LM8.1 you already have a WONDERFUL newsreader called PAN. For me it's the "Killer Linux App". Agent, and others cannot handle the sheer amount of messages that PAN deals with, with aplomb. E.G. I can download, sort and rethread 240,000 message headers in PAN in seconds. Agent and others choke after 10,000. -JMS |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Søren Neigaard |Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 12:52 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: [newbie] Binary newsreader | | |Do any of you know of a newsreader like NewsBin |(http://www.newsbin.com) for Linux? One that can download the |binaries for all subscribed groups. | |Best regards |Søren | | | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] IEEE-1394 support
Yes it supports Firewire cards. Yes it's "Built in" so to speak. I had no problem with a cheap (29.00) Taiwanese card. When last I check the kernel sources for this under 8.0, there was no support for the Adaptec cards, though this may have changed under 8.1. -JMS |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Terry |Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 12:08 PM |To: Linux Newbie List |Subject: [newbie] IEEE-1394 support | | |Folks, | |I have an opportunity at work to be given a FireWire card to |put into my |machine. Does LM 8.1 support FireWire cards? If so, is there |a general |drive I need to install to use it? Or is support built right in? | |Thanks! |-- |Terry Sheltra |PC Technician/Network Administrator |University of Virginia |School of Architecture |[EMAIL PROTECTED] |434 (or 804) 982.3047 | |Registered Linux User #218330 | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Upgrade/re-install components form ISO Image CDs
Use the "Software manager" under "Configuration/Packaging" (I believe it's called). It will also attempt to load dependacies for you... -JMS |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen Liu |Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 10:12 AM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: [newbie] Upgrade/re-install components form ISO Image CDs | | |Hi All People, | |Mandrake-Linux 8.1 |== | |How to upgrade/re-install components from ISO Image CDs which |have not be |selected at 1st installation, not by RPM nor by re-installing |the whole |software | |Thanks in advance. | |B.R. |Stephen Liu | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Virtual desktops in Linux-Mandrake and XP
I've never understood why Microsoft hasn't adopted this (since they usurp everything else!) It's a very convenient option for most people, and somewhat amazing to those that have never seen it. XP's "fast switch" helps, but it doesn't really cut it. BTW: You can take this a long way further in Linux. You are also able to add another X-Window session manager launch. This gives you the ability to log in, then flip to another login prompt and log in as a totally different users, with different desktop managers, etc. In turn each of these logged in "users" has their own set of virtual desktops. Editing the /etc/X11 file enables this. -JMS |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Robert |Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 5:19 AM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: [newbie] Virtual desktops in Linux-Mandrake and XP | | |Just discovered with a download XP can mimick the virtual |desktop which comes |standard with Linux-Mandrake, I suppose with any Linux distro. It nice |looking but clumsy. An obvious rip off, but encouragin since |Linux can excert |some influence on MS. | |My question, and please don't jump over me over the XP and |Linux shit I don't |care either way, is virtual desktops been a part of Linux from |the beginning |or is this a common UNIX options? I enjoy running my four |virtual desktops |when surfing the net, reading email and trying to either |install or adjust |some things on my Linux box. | |By comparison Linux is quicker and smoother. XP has a |simulataneous view of |all four desktop but is slow. Nice feature if it could work right. | |Don't jump all over this I am just asking a question I don't need the |preaching of the gospel of whatever, please! | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] startx and kde
Sridhar, When I installed my LM8.1, I chose Gnome as my default window manager, but since rebooting, I am thrust into KDE by default. When I execute "startx gnome" I only get a blue screen with a terminal window open and nothing else. Is there something I'm doing wrong or something I need to edit to fix this problem? -Original Message- From: Sridhar Dhanapalan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 6:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mark D'voo Subject: Re: [newbie] startx and kde On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 08:21:57 -0600, "Mark D'voo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When i do a startx, how do I tell it to run blackbox, not kde ?? > > mark SYNTAX: startx So to get Blackbox, it should be 'startx blackbox', or perhaps 'startx Blackbox'. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan "OS/2 is the platform of the '90s." -- Bill Gates Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux Lunacy!
Had a great time, wonderful conferences, met some really cool Linux people. I talked/shook hands with: John "Maddog" Hall Richard Stallman Michael Johnson Eric Raymnond And many more! Food was good, ship was grand, (new) wife was -great-. ;- Later guys! -- /\ Dark> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] MSN.com and MS in general.
This is all true and good, but I'd like to make a couple of points..
1. Nobody has ever talked about making sites not work in IE in this thread,,
I wouldn't
be that stupid, you'd lose a good portion of your audience..
I was talking about informing IE users that there are good alternatives.
and good reasons to try them.
2. People have been writing cross browser pages for ages.. its not a new
thing..
nowdays, the html isnt' that much of a problem, and with getElementById
Javascript isn't
that much of a problem either, the new way of doing things, is to NOT test
for the browser
type or version, but to test for each object or method before using it..
as an example, here is some code.. from a div swap page I wrote recently.
|function hidescreen() {
| if (document.layers)
| {
| document.layers["exitlayer"].visibility='hide';
| }
| else if (document.all)
|{
| document.all["exitlayer"].style.visibility='hidden';
|}
| else if (document.getElementById)
|{
| document.getElementById("exitlayer").visibility='hidden';
|}
| }
This code works on everything I have tested it on... (IE4+, ns4+, Mozilla,
opera and some others.)
yet there is no testing for browser type, the first bit tests for
document.layer (used mostly by early Netscape)
the second one tests for the presence of document.all and uses it if it
finds it..(thats for IE4+)
The last one tests for getElementById and uses it if it exists.. that sorts
out IE6 (which can use document.all as well)
NS6+ and Mozilla, as well as anything based on recent Gecko...
No browser testing at all, all my scripts are like that now.. and it works
flawlessly. So you don't have to write the same page for each browser, or
test for every browser on the planet and code for it,, you just test for the
object, and then code for it if it exists... very simple and fantastically
simple.. will be great when getElementById is the only one left, as coding
for it is very very easy.
There is probably even easier ways to do the above, this was knocked up in
20 minutes along with the rest of the script, so its not necessarily the
best code for the job, but it works, and its very simple.
rgds
Frank
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gary Traffanstedt
Sent: Wednesday, 31 October 2001 1:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] MSN.com and MS in general.
I don't think designing sites that don't work in IE is the answer. I
also don't think designing sites that are 100% cross-browser compatible is
really an answer either. Microsoft has done a lot to ensure that certain
things only work or work better with their products. To combat this, if
anyone cares to combat this, a better product or service is need in each
instance. For example, IE owns the browser market for one reason. It is
simply better. Yes it has problems. It has a lot of problems but overall, it
IS the best browser available for Windows users which happen to make up a
large share of computer users.
I primarily use Linux and on Linux I like Mozilla. I'm using .9.4
and
it works great. With each new release, it only gets better. Or at least that
is what I hear... haven't been able to get .9.5 to run yet but that's my own
fault. Back to the point If those who are passionate about Linux and the
Linux way of life, do something to show your support. Contribute to the
cause
in any way that you can.
If you use Mozilla, and you find a problem with it, let the
developers know of the problem. They can't test everything themselves and if
you point out it's flaws, in a constructive way, that will assist them in
making it far superior to Internet Exploiter.
It's not quite a level field that we play on, but it's getting
better. Two years ago I struggled to get any distro installed. Today I can
slap a cd in the drive and have my choice of a variety of distros running in
under 30 minutes. The installation process had greatly improved. The wealth
of applications have improved accross the board. More and more people are
turning to Linux, not just as an operating system, but as a way of life. I
use it because it's open, not because it's free.
Just think where Linux would be if only half of the dollars spent on
Windows development was spent inproving Linux and Linux apps it's just a
matter of time really Windows has been to the top of the mountain...
they
are there now... but the edge is ever closer... and the end is ever
nearer. the penguin is coming, and the empire will crumble. Not because
of the government or any court case, but because of the will of the people.
The MS way of thinking "If you can make it good, make it look good" can only
last so long.
The truth is, MS products are more looks than substance and that
shall be their downfall.
-Gary
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Re: [newbie] Virtual/real desktops in Linux-Mandrake
sorry, i meant srid, though likely that isn't a real shortening of your name. so slap me around. ;) On Tuesday 30 October 2001 09:21, you spoke unto me thusly: > say you mean it sid, i have been dieing to do that with kde/enlightenment. -- With Windows Millennium, Microsoft was able to get the boot time down to 25 seconds. That's almost as short as it's uptime. shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Virtual/real desktops in Linux-Mandrake
say you mean it sid, i have been dieing to do that with kde/enlightenment. how do i go about pointing a second x server to tty 6 for example? is there a good net resource for this? On Tuesday 30 October 2001 06:23, you spoke unto me thusly: > > You can even have different X sessions (not just desktops) on the same > machine and the same monitor. All you need to do is map them to different > ttys. For example, I could have one session with GNOME loaded, and another > totally separate one with KDE loaded. I could switch between them with the > ctrl+alt+function keys. -- Brain on vacation, body on autopilot. shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Delete dead Nautilus?
I use the Gnome desktop w/sawfish under LM 8.1. For the first few days I was really annoyed at Nautilus because it would bring up a new filesystem browser everytime I inserted a CDROM. I was installing packages so it was happening quite frequently. (And frankly Nautilus seems like incredibly slow bloatware to me.) I could not figure out how to tell Nautilus to not "autorun." I don't use "autorun" under Windows and don't want to use it under Linux either. Then one day, Nautilus simply quit showing up. I have no idea why, although I was delighted because it made the "autorun" problem go away. However, now I have no icons on the desktop. I don't really care about that either since I never used those icons for anything. So Nautilus is obviously not necessary for running Gnome. How do I remove it? Rpm reports that the nautilus package provides the "gnome-desktop" capabilty, which is required by the gnome-core package. Is it improper for gnome-core to depend on Nautilus? Can Nautilus be deleted? Can Nautilus be instructed how to behave? Can Nautilus be brought back from the dead? thanks in advance, gm -- + Gregory H. Margo Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] MSN.com and MS in general.
I don't think designing sites that don't work in IE is the answer. I also don't think designing sites that are 100% cross-browser compatible is really an answer either. Microsoft has done a lot to ensure that certain things only work or work better with their products. To combat this, if anyone cares to combat this, a better product or service is need in each instance. For example, IE owns the browser market for one reason. It is simply better. Yes it has problems. It has a lot of problems but overall, it IS the best browser available for Windows users which happen to make up a large share of computer users. I primarily use Linux and on Linux I like Mozilla. I'm using .9.4 and it works great. With each new release, it only gets better. Or at least that is what I hear... haven't been able to get .9.5 to run yet but that's my own fault. Back to the point If those who are passionate about Linux and the Linux way of life, do something to show your support. Contribute to the cause in any way that you can. If you use Mozilla, and you find a problem with it, let the developers know of the problem. They can't test everything themselves and if you point out it's flaws, in a constructive way, that will assist them in making it far superior to Internet Exploiter. It's not quite a level field that we play on, but it's getting better. Two years ago I struggled to get any distro installed. Today I can slap a cd in the drive and have my choice of a variety of distros running in under 30 minutes. The installation process had greatly improved. The wealth of applications have improved accross the board. More and more people are turning to Linux, not just as an operating system, but as a way of life. I use it because it's open, not because it's free. Just think where Linux would be if only half of the dollars spent on Windows development was spent inproving Linux and Linux apps it's just a matter of time really Windows has been to the top of the mountain... they are there now... but the edge is ever closer... and the end is ever nearer. the penguin is coming, and the empire will crumble. Not because of the government or any court case, but because of the will of the people. The MS way of thinking "If you can make it good, make it look good" can only last so long. The truth is, MS products are more looks than substance and that shall be their downfall. -Gary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] setting up proxy server
I'm running 3 boxes with 8.1 here and would like to set one of these up as a proxy server.What is the best way to accomplish this? With squid perhaps..or is Samba a better way to do this(there are 3 more boxes running 98se).Perhaps I'm way off base and there is another method? Thank you all so very much for making this a most informative list. Lee Martin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Informazioni
Cari amici vi scirvo per avere informazioni su questo sistema operativo e come sewtarlo: ho un Celeron 500 mhz con 256 mb di ram 1 hd 8 gb e dvd rom scheda di rete 3com e abbonamento con Fatweb con Win98 se come s.o. come posso preparare il sistema per un dual boot e settare la scheda per la connessione ad internet??
Re: [newbie] Sound Card setup / Creative PCI64
On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 09:15:11 + "PBN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sndconfig names my Creative PCI64 as "Ensoniq|1336blablah" and > tells me that it's currently not supported. I tried reading the AWE32 > howto which names isapnptools etc etc. But this card is not ISA! > Can anyone please point me in the right direction of setting up my PCI64 > and let me experience linux with sound. > > P Try Mandrake Control Centre -> Hardware -> Hardware -> Soundcards then run the configuration tool. Creative PCI64 ... currently not supported according to sndconfig? lol. Or is this new hardware sold under an old name? HTH, -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing Program Into Home Directory
On Monday 29 October 2001 10:09 am, Mark Johnson wrote: > edit your PATH variable and that should solve your problem. Check your > /etc/profile and append the OO path to the PATH directory. > > > something like: > > # /etc/profile > # > PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/OO/bin > > But I don't know what the actual OO path would be On Monday 29 October 2001 06:03 pm, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > Run the OpenOffice installer as root with the /net option Thanks for the suggestions I appreciate both your responses. I think I read somewhere that this is something they're going to change in a futre version of OOo so I'll wait till then. -- Bryce Hardy (Santa Rosa, CA) [EMAIL PROTECTED] --->>>"Arbeit Macht Nicht So Frei!"<<<--- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Win Partition
Steven, After the "850" in the vfat entry, add , umask=0 and life will be good again. Miark - Original Message - From: "Steven Spears" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 8:31 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Win Partition > I'm getting errors when trying to write to the windows patition. I can do it > in root with no problems, which I didn't expect any, but I sitll can't write > from my user account. I tried playing around with the fstab file to no avail. > I've since added supermount which works great with my removable media, but I > would like to get this going. > > Here is my fstab file incase it might help: > > /dev/hda5 / reiserfs notail 1 1 > none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 > none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 > /dev/hda8 /home reiserfs notail 1 2 > /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/hdc,ro,nosuid,nodev,exec > 0 0 > /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount fs=vfat,dev=/dev/fd0,nosuid,nodev, 0 0 > /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,codepage=850 0 0 > /dev/hde4 /mnt/zip auto > user,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 > none /proc proc defaults 0 0 > /dev/hda7 /usr reiserfs notail 1 2 > /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 > > > I hope this helps. If anyone has any suggestions, please feel free to chime > in. And thanks for the help so far. > > Steven Spears > > Linux Mandrake User > > > > On Sunday 28 October 2001 08:50 pm, you wrote: > > If your errors are only on creating files, you are probably using the > > default settings in /etc/fstab, your windows partition is mounting with > > nosuid which means it shouldn't try to change the userid of any files it > > creates. Unfortunately, it appears to ignore this and tries to change the > > owner and errors. Even if you are in a group listed with access, it will > > still use your user id as the owner and generate the number.LM mounts > > it originally as root, so that is the owner. If you umount /mnt/windows > > and then mount /mnt/windows, it should work. You could also set it to not > > auto mount and then manually mount it. > > > > Joe > > > > On Sunday 28 October 2001 08:04 pm, you wrote: > > > I've install 8.1 and have pretty good luck except for a few disappointing > > > things. I'm having problems writing to my windows partion from within > > > Linux. I've done nothing different than I did in 8.0 and it just doesn't > > > seem to work. I have to be root to do it. I'm part of the root group, so > > > it should let me in, right? > > > > > > Not sure what to do. I've made sure all of the permissions are set and > > > the like, to no luck. Any help would be appreciated. > > > > > > Steve Spears > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Help-.session will not re-set
My session manager will not forget that I don't have 14 windows of Konq open anymore. Even if I tell it on logout don't save session.. Where is the config fiel for remembering restoring session, I want to just delete the little bugger... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] My personal response to msn.com and Internet Explorer.
Gidday All Franki, I like it but the paragraph below has a problem. I think it would be better to put it this way. This is not necessary. You may have full functionality but we just can't guarantee it, and neither can anyone else other then Microsoft and its partners. Max > This is not necessary you may have full functionality, we just can't > guarantee it, and neither can anyone else other then Microsoft and its > partners. > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] libpng3 abiword
On 30 Oct 2001 01:43:56 -0500 Paul Rodríguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anybody have or can compile a libpng2 version of Abiword 0.9.4? I > really like abiword, but the version that comes with Mandrake 8.1 > doesn't have speell-checking working out of the box. (this seems to be > an incompatability issue with ispell, abi uses 128 character strings and > mdk's ispell uses 100) I'm told spell-checking works with Abiword 0.9.4 > out of the box, but that libpng3 (which it requires) causes many > incompatabillities system-wide. Can abiword be compiled in a Mandrake > specific way but to use linpng2 instead? If so, does anybody want to do > this, or can show me how? > http://www.abisource.com/download/ Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installation problem: "no such device"
civileme wrote: > > On Sunday 28 October 2001 04:59, Robin Turner wrote: > > I'm reinstalling Mandrake 8.0 and get the following problem while > > assigning partitions: > > > > Mount failed > > No such device > > > > This is happens two partitions: /dev/hda1 (vfat) and /dev/hda2 > > (reiserfs). > > > > It also happens with a more complete partitioning, i.e. > > > > /dev/hda1 (vfat) > > /devhda5 (reiserfs, /) > > /dev/hda6 (swap) > > /dev/hda7 (reiserfs, /home) > > > > This has never happened before on this box - any > > ideas about why it's doing it now and what I can do about it? > > > > Robin > > Yep, you need a notail mount of reiser to use as root and that causes kernel > oopses in 8.0. Do not use Reiser for /. Hmm - it worked OK before. Maybe because that was because I was instaling over an old ext2 installation, rather than vfat. I prefer reiser to ext2 because we have a lot of power cuts here, not to mention users who like to reboot into Windows by hitting the restart button. > > 8.1 Reiser is much improved So I hear. Problem is I can't do a net install of 8.1 - it fails to retrieve the second stage ramdisk. This seems to be a problem with every other version of Mandrake: 7.1 was fine, 7.2 failed, 8.0 was fine, 8.1 fails. Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sound Card setup / Creative PCI64
On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 09:15:11 +, "PBN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sndconfig names my Creative PCI64 as "Ensoniq|1336blablah" and > tells me that it's currently not supported. I tried reading the AWE32 > howto which names isapnptools etc etc. But this card is not ISA! > Can anyone please point me in the right direction of setting up my PCI64 > and let me experience linux with sound. > > P Try turning off PnP in your BIOS. If that doesn't work, try running # sndconfig --noprobe in a root console. Make sure you exit X first. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan "640K ought to be enough for anybody." -- Bill Gates, 1981 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] My personal response to msn.com and Internet Explorer.
A div is probably better - it's less intrusive. Could you please post the code up when you're done? I may wish to use it sometime (not that I make many sites or anything). Thanks. On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:16:34 +0800, "Franki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All very valid points, which is why some action is taken... > > As previously stated, IE is already the prime browser on Mac and windows > platforms.. > > that makes up the far majority of web users.. > > web developers are allready peeved at having to cross browser develop. > > if IE gets to 95% saturation, then developers are not going to consider it > worth > developing for the others,, and they will all write for M$ IE, then they > will > start using IE proprietry tags, whatever they are, move to .net instead of > JAVA where applicable. > > and we are all screwed because its quiet likely that IE will never > materalise for Linux until it > stops becoming a threat to M$, which is very likely never... > > In light of that, I don't think a bit of subtle information is a bad thing.. > > I was recently thinking of a small popup window, that has a cookie to make > sure it only gets put up once, and a timer so that it closes either onBlur > or times out after 10 or so seconds. > > or a div with the same timer that disappears after 10 seconds. > > wouldn't be that hard, only have to code it for one browser type. :-) > > rgds > > Frank > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sridhar Dhanapalan > Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2001 3:30 PM > To: John Hokanson Jr. > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] My personal response to msn.com and Internet > Explorer. > > > On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 21:32:52 -0800, "John Hokanson Jr." > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On Monday 29 October 2001 08:25 pm, you wrote: > > > And I'm saying, he should make sure that it can be viewed > > > properly. Not cop out with uncertainty. > > > > > > I agree with you, except Franki explicitly stated that he fears > > > unless people are drawn away from MSIE, they might not ever > > > consider switching to Linux. > > > > > > == > > > > > > You missunderstood me again > > > > > > I made that point to indicate that if the web becomes IE only (can > > > anyone deny that that > > > is what M$ want?) people won't have the choice,,, I don't actually > > > care if people want > > > to use linux or not... I care that people have the choice to use > > > whatever they want. > > > > What they want, and what they can do are two separate things. > > Controlling the WORLD wide web would be significantly harder than > > their attempts to control the OS market. If the US fails to stop them, > > the European Union, Australia, Asia, and other regions get their > > crack at them. > > The EU is the only body with the clout to stop MS. While they look like > being on > the brink of fining MS billions of dollars for anti-competitive behaviour in > the > server market, they are also set to ratify an act which is not unlike the > DMCA. > > > The Internet will not stand to be controlled by Microsoft. There > > are too many people running Linux. Macs, Amigas, ect. for this to > > happen. > > MS essentially control the Macintosh platform. Apple have to do what MS > wants, > or MS will stop making Office for the Mac. That would kill them. > > Most other OSs, for all practical purposes, are dead. It's sad but true. The > latest addition to this list is BeOS, which was recently bought by Palm and > is > being neglected. > > Free software represents a real and credible threat to Microsoft's plans. > When > the W3C considered RAND licensing earlier this month, the outrage from the > free > software community was so strong that they appointed Bruce Perens and the > FSF's > Eben Moglen to their board, in an effort to prevent Perens's threat of the > community forking the standards from taking place. > > > The WORST that will happen is that third party browsers will > > have to learn how parse Microsoft's proprietary web code. > > Afterall, Star Office can read Word documents. > > Do you have any idea how long this has taken? Compatibility is still not > 100%, > even after years of painstaking reverse-engineering. Once MS controls web > standards, they are free to do what they like with it. They will push > Windows-only technologies like VBScript and ActiveX over JavaScript and > Java. I > wouldn't be surprised if they introduce binary code, as they have done in > the MS > Word format. They can keep their standards moving, so that by the time they > are > reverse-engineered they are already obsolete. Again, the MS Word file format > is > a prime example here. > > Try reading this article by Robert X. Cringely: > > http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20010802.html > > Of notable mention is this: > > "According to these programmers, Microsoft wants to replace TCP/IP wit
Re: [newbie] My personal response to msn.com and Internet Explorer.
On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 00:43:46 -0800, "John Hokanson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 29 October 2001 11:51 pm, you wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:44:33 -0800, "John Hokanson Jr." > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > On Monday 29 October 2001 05:41 pm, you wrote: > > > > On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 13:45:52 -0800, "John Hokanson Jr." > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Monday 29 October 2001 08:26 am, you wrote: > > > MZ is a fine browser and worthy of the Netscape legacy, but it > > > needs a lot of tweeking. Personally, I would like to see a > > > feature-freeze initiated after 1.0 so that what they already have > > > can be refined. > > > > I think that's what they plan on doing. > > > > The state of Mozilla is not nearly as bad as it looks. People > > complain about the number of bugs it has, but the reality is that > > the vast majority of these bugs are either duplicates or invalid. > > I haven't noticed any bugs. Again, as I told you before, once you > get it up and running, it runs beautifully. I was referring to the official Mozilla bug count. Some people have looked at the high number of official bugs and concluded that Mozilla is a write-off. This is not the case, although things are obviously not as good as they should be. Being the pioneer commercial-free software collaboration project, it should have been expected to have hit some snags. The infrastructure they have built simply to support the browser design project (e.g. Bugzilla and Tinderbox) are nothing short of amazing, and form the spine of many open source projects today (e.g. MandrakeSoft and GNOME use Bugzilla). > They need to optimimize the code, and I need to get more RAM. > Once both of these happen, I'm sure it'll be a great webbrowser. > :) Me too. > > If MSIE is 100% W3C standards-compliant, then there is no real > > problem. By this, I don't mean "100% w3C plus IE-only extensions", > > I mean only 100% W3C. > > This appears to be where our fundamental disagreement is. While > it could be argued that MSIE's proprietary standards can confuse > the web community, when you take what I said above about > responsibility, it shouldn't really matter. It hardly warrants > posting warnings if you don't use their proprietary code on your > webpage. Well I never really disputed that. > The type of browsers you are speaking of are a relatively new > concept. Netscape has had their own proprietary tags. Yeah, they started this whole mess. However, they were also among the first to dump all that proprietary stuff and decide to start afresh with open standards. > > > I myself type the majority of code by hand. > > > > You are probably in the minority of web designers out there, and > > you appear to be much more competant than most of them. I'm sure > > that there are many that rely on tools like Dreamweaver, which > > generates horrid code. > > > > I tend not to use WYSIWYG tools. The exception to this is image > mapping, where it is a pain (and unnecessary) to do the grid > coordinates by hand. For shme! :) > I have used early versions of Homesite (pre-5.0), which is > mostly a text-based editor. I use it primarly because it allows > rapid placement of tags (all of which observe standards). It > also has built-in validation tools. I personally like to finish-off my pages in Amaya to make sure they are standards-compliant. Then I run them through the W3C validator. > > I read all > > the time about companies and sites choosing to support only IE > > because it is "too difficult" to support multiple browsers. How > > hard is it to design a standards-compliant site that features a > > decent level of functionality? > > > > Who are these idiots? I thought the same thing. > And they're probably using Frontpage, which chruns out > needlessly complex (and probably IE specific) code. It'd be > interesting to see whether or not they actually *write* their > code, or allow some program to do it for them. These are the kind of people I was referring to when I talked about "lazy" designers. There are far too many of them. While we'll never be able to get them up off their lazy backsides to do things properly, we _can_ try to make sure that the tools they use generate standards-compliant code. It would make a world of difference if Dreamweaver was compliant. > God, I'm only 20, and I feel old. I know how you feel. I'll be 20 in January, yet most of my computing experience has been at a command-line. > I once created a simple HTML document in a text editor, > and then handed it over to Frontpage, and you wouldn't > believe the crap it added in. I once tried that as well. The results are terrible. MS Word is another key offender. Surprisingly, StarOffice isn't that bad at all. It can generate code (complete with tables, etc.) reasonably close to the HTML 3.2 spec. After a little tweaking, everything is compliant. > It's a bit like have MS Access write its own SQL statements >
Re: [newbie] Virtual desktops in Linux-Mandrake and XP
Multiple desktops are a feature of the X-window system, which predates the Linux kernel by several years. In other words, it's a generic UNIX thing, rather than a Linux innovation. Robin Robert wrote: > > Just discovered with a download XP can mimick the virtual desktop which comes > standard with Linux-Mandrake, I suppose with any Linux distro. It nice > looking but clumsy. An obvious rip off, but encouragin since Linux can excert > some influence on MS. > > My question, and please don't jump over me over the XP and Linux shit I don't > care either way, is virtual desktops been a part of Linux from the beginning > or is this a common UNIX options? I enjoy running my four virtual desktops > when surfing the net, reading email and trying to either install or adjust > some things on my Linux box. > > By comparison Linux is quicker and smoother. XP has a simulataneous view of > all four desktop but is slow. Nice feature if it could work right. > > Don't jump all over this I am just asking a question I don't need the > preaching of the gospel of whatever, please! > > - > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Installing Linux Mandrake 8.1 after WinXP
I have a computer with : PIII 800 MHz 256 MB of RAM 30 GB Harddisk drive Asus V7100 AGP 32 MB Samsung SyncMaster 550v monitor SB Live! HP Deskjet 810c US Robotics 56K Message modem and my question is : 1) does linux mandrake 8.1 support all my hardware that I have listed above ? 2) can I install it together with WinXP ? anyone who tried install Mandrake 8.1 with WinXP ? may I heard your experience ? 3) which is the best for me that I can choose between ext3 or ReiserFS ? Thank's for your attention and I hope I can install Mandrake 8.1 as soon as possible after receive your answer for my question. (sorry for my bad English,I'm still newbie in Linux world and English language) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] My personal response to msn.com and Internet Explorer.
All very valid points, which is why some action is taken... As previously stated, IE is already the prime browser on Mac and windows platforms.. that makes up the far majority of web users.. web developers are allready peeved at having to cross browser develop. if IE gets to 95% saturation, then developers are not going to consider it worth developing for the others,, and they will all write for M$ IE, then they will start using IE proprietry tags, whatever they are, move to .net instead of JAVA where applicable. and we are all screwed because its quiet likely that IE will never materalise for Linux until it stops becoming a threat to M$, which is very likely never... In light of that, I don't think a bit of subtle information is a bad thing.. I was recently thinking of a small popup window, that has a cookie to make sure it only gets put up once, and a timer so that it closes either onBlur or times out after 10 or so seconds. or a div with the same timer that disappears after 10 seconds. wouldn't be that hard, only have to code it for one browser type. :-) rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sridhar Dhanapalan Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2001 3:30 PM To: John Hokanson Jr. Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] My personal response to msn.com and Internet Explorer. On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 21:32:52 -0800, "John Hokanson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 29 October 2001 08:25 pm, you wrote: > > And I'm saying, he should make sure that it can be viewed > > properly. Not cop out with uncertainty. > > > > I agree with you, except Franki explicitly stated that he fears > > unless people are drawn away from MSIE, they might not ever > > consider switching to Linux. > > > > == > > > > You missunderstood me again > > > > I made that point to indicate that if the web becomes IE only (can > > anyone deny that that > > is what M$ want?) people won't have the choice,,, I don't actually > > care if people want > > to use linux or not... I care that people have the choice to use > > whatever they want. > > What they want, and what they can do are two separate things. > Controlling the WORLD wide web would be significantly harder than > their attempts to control the OS market. If the US fails to stop them, > the European Union, Australia, Asia, and other regions get their > crack at them. The EU is the only body with the clout to stop MS. While they look like being on the brink of fining MS billions of dollars for anti-competitive behaviour in the server market, they are also set to ratify an act which is not unlike the DMCA. > The Internet will not stand to be controlled by Microsoft. There > are too many people running Linux. Macs, Amigas, ect. for this to > happen. MS essentially control the Macintosh platform. Apple have to do what MS wants, or MS will stop making Office for the Mac. That would kill them. Most other OSs, for all practical purposes, are dead. It's sad but true. The latest addition to this list is BeOS, which was recently bought by Palm and is being neglected. Free software represents a real and credible threat to Microsoft's plans. When the W3C considered RAND licensing earlier this month, the outrage from the free software community was so strong that they appointed Bruce Perens and the FSF's Eben Moglen to their board, in an effort to prevent Perens's threat of the community forking the standards from taking place. > The WORST that will happen is that third party browsers will > have to learn how parse Microsoft's proprietary web code. > Afterall, Star Office can read Word documents. Do you have any idea how long this has taken? Compatibility is still not 100%, even after years of painstaking reverse-engineering. Once MS controls web standards, they are free to do what they like with it. They will push Windows-only technologies like VBScript and ActiveX over JavaScript and Java. I wouldn't be surprised if they introduce binary code, as they have done in the MS Word format. They can keep their standards moving, so that by the time they are reverse-engineered they are already obsolete. Again, the MS Word file format is a prime example here. Try reading this article by Robert X. Cringely: http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20010802.html Of notable mention is this: "According to these programmers, Microsoft wants to replace TCP/IP with a proprietary protocol -- a protocol owned by Microsoft -- that it will tout as being more secure. Actually, the new protocol would likely be TCP/IP with some of the reserved fields used as pointers to proprietary extensions, quite similar to Vines IP, if you remember that product from Banyan Systems." It may only be a rumour today, but the fact that so many knowledgeable people actually believe it means that it shouldn't be ignored. > In fact, if it weren't for Linux, the government's case against > Mic
[newbie] Virtual desktops in Linux-Mandrake and XP
Just discovered with a download XP can mimick the virtual desktop which comes standard with Linux-Mandrake, I suppose with any Linux distro. It nice looking but clumsy. An obvious rip off, but encouragin since Linux can excert some influence on MS. My question, and please don't jump over me over the XP and Linux shit I don't care either way, is virtual desktops been a part of Linux from the beginning or is this a common UNIX options? I enjoy running my four virtual desktops when surfing the net, reading email and trying to either install or adjust some things on my Linux box. By comparison Linux is quicker and smoother. XP has a simulataneous view of all four desktop but is slow. Nice feature if it could work right. Don't jump all over this I am just asking a question I don't need the preaching of the gospel of whatever, please! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] G450 16M with DH
somebody use this video card with two monitor with some version of linux X ? TNX fab Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Fw: [newbie] Mandrake-Linux 8.1 installation problem
mine is crw -rw ---psux - Original Message - From: "Stephen Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 2:44 PM Subject: [newbie] Mandrake-Linux 8.1 installation problem > Hi All People, > > I tried nearly 2 weeks but still could not solve the installation problem > of Mandrake-Linux 8.1. Detail as follows : > > Configuration of the PC for Linux box > CPU AMD K2 350 > Hard Disk3.6G ATA-33 > RAM 128 MB > > ISO Images were download to a Windows ME box with Anti-Virus and all > protection programs closed. > > Burning software : Tried both Easy CD Creator 4.0 and 5.0 respectively > Burning speed : Tried 2X, 4X and 8X respectively > > md5sum : matched > > (Remark : I have Mandrake-Linux 7.2 version also downloadrd the same > Windows ME box and burnt with Easy Cd Creator 4.0 at 4X. The CDs thus > burnt can be installed in the abovementioned Linux Box, running great > without problem) > > Installation went through without problem but the PS/2 mouse died after > re-booting. It was alive at time of installation. KDE could be started > after re-booting and worked normally. The mouse was found in HardDrake > under the list. It is a A4 3-button wheel PS/2 mouse. But during > installation I was not allowed to select another mouse, otherwise the PC > would re-start automatically. > > During logout (Re-boot/Halt) the PC hanged with following warning ; > > /dev/pasux : no such device or address > > > Mainloop returned consoleInit : nor such device or address > INIT : no more process left in the runlevel > > Then the PC hanged. > > On terminal window > Type ls -l /dev/misc > > It prompted > > .. > total 0 > crw - - - - - - rootamp_bios > crw - r - - - - rootrootpsux > crw - r - - - - rootrootrtc > > Any guy on the list has encountered the aforesaid problem previously please > advise. > > Thanks in advice. > > B.R. > Stephen Liu > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > message.footer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
