Re: [newbie] RaiserFS or Linux partition

2002-02-15 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

On Thursday 14 February 2002 04:07, you wrote:
> I don't think ReiserFS is worth crying about since it doesn't get
> smaller than 32MB...
>
> A partition that small (such as /boot) isn't getting much activity
> anyhow. So using a non journel FS is fine. Or, like you seggested, ext3.
>
> Fsck on <32MB is hardly even noticable.

What you say is very true.  However, to go on to the *rest* of the story, the 
reasons you enunciate do not pass as reasons NOT to use a capable journaling 
FS on smaller partitions.  I don't see the mandatory use of fsck or sync as 
being a valid reason for anything, no matter how fast it is; except maybe 
clinging to a dramatic but inferior version of past evolutionary history best 
left behind.

On the other hand, if you do happen to have a personal fetish for other 
filesystem types other than journaling, Linux certainly scores with the 
ability to support those fetishes.  Freedom rules; so more power to ya.

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[newbie] Linux Video and Pinnacle Systems

2002-02-15 Thread Jon



Hi,
 
Has anyone got the Pinnacle System TV Capture 
module (on USB) working with Mandrake 8.1?
 
Jon.
 


Re: [newbie] Program with ./configure

2002-02-15 Thread Daniel Chen

Yes, I do cd into the directory > Just for clarification. Did you 'cd' into the 
directory and type
./congifure

Daniel

> './configure'? All that stuff without quotes.
> 
> Bill
> 
> On Friday 15 February 2002 04:14 pm, Daniel Chen wrote:
> > Yes, I am sure the configure file is in the same directory and it is set
> > to executable. Also, I am sure the first line of the file is looked
> > like #!/bin/sh
> >
> > I tried to type in
> > /bin/sh configure
> >
> > and I got the result like this:
> > : command not found
> > : command not found
> > : command not found
> > : command not found
> > : command not found
> > : command not found
> >
> > (repeat many many times..:-)
> >
> > : command not found
> > : command not found
> > : command not found
> > : command not found
> >
> > 'onfigure: line 837: syntax error near unexpected token `in
> > 'onfigure: line 837: `  case X$UNAME in
> >
> > So, does anyone have idea of what happening with my Mandrake 8.1?
> >
> > BTW, thank you very much for your guys' help!
> >
> > Daniel
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[newbie] Restoring with TAR

2002-02-15 Thread Charles Muller

I appreciate the advice on how to automate TAR/GZIP.

Concerning the matter of restoring, especially something like a full
system backup, I am having another problem.

When I open up a TAR file, by default it will dump into the directory
where the TAR file is located. The problem is, if my my TAR/GZIP file is
too large to fit into the /.. partition, I can't do a full restore
directly from there. I would have to unpack it in another directory (or
perhaps even another drive) and then copy the folders to my original
drive individually.

Is there a setting that can be applied to TAR to make the restore occur
in another drive, or lower-level folder, in other words, with absolute
directories, instead of relative? I have read the instructions on TAR in
a few different books, and in the HOWTO pages, but these all just
explain only the basic packing and unpacking function, and don't give me
a clue as to how to solve this problem.

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RE: [newbie] Set Backup

2002-02-15 Thread Franki

it doesn't have to end in .sh

you can just make it executable:

chmod 755 myscipt.

in the top line should be something like this:

#!/bin/sh

then leave a blank line, and then add your commands to it..

I usually put my home grown scripts into /usr/sbin
then I always have them in my path, and don't have to use ./ or the full
path.


rgds

Frank

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To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [newbie] Set Backup


> >I have a backup that I want to run daily, that goes
> something like this
> >
> >$ tar cvzf /mnt/win_d/docs/e-mail/evolution/evol.tar.gz
> >/home/chuck/evolution
> >
> >
> >I would like to save this in a file that I can run as a
> command, like a
> >BAT file in DOS. I assume then, that I would save this
> script in a text
> >file. Then, what else should I do, in terms of naming, or other
> >preparation, to have it available as a command?
>
> You can name the file anything you want. Linux supported long
> names long
> before Windows/Dos did. Then you can run
>
> chmod +x 
>
> to make it executable (set the execute attribute). After that
> you can run it
> as./
>
> ./ means "in this directory"
>
> Paul
>

Speaking as a newbie... I thought scripts had to end with a ".sh"? Or is
that just a convention?
Also, when I want to run a script I've written myself, I just change to the
directory the script is kept in, and type the script name. I don't prefix it
with a "./"
Am I missing something here?

Thanks,

Richard

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Re: [newbie] Email client that allows checking of hotmail

2002-02-15 Thread James Thomas


Hotmail uses HTTP, not POP3. I can easily check it using Navigator/Mozilla 
or whatever, but I like the convenience of using a program like Outlook 
Express instead of a web browser just to check my email.

So I guess a better question is there an email client out there (I played 
with Sylpheed a little and I REALLY like it, too bad it doesn't) that 
supports the HTTP protocol for checking email?

Thanks,

James

>Assuming Hotmail is just another POP3 mail server,
>most of the common E-mail clients will fetch your
>E-mail from your Hotmail account.  For example, I use
>a @yahoo.com E-mail account for my mailing lists and I
>retrieve them using Sylpheed.  I used to use KMail for
>the same thing and it worked fine also.  You jsut need
>to configure the account settings properly in your
>EMail client (the POP3 server name, username,
>password,etc...).


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Re: [newbie] Email client that allows checking of hotmail

2002-02-15 Thread Kipling Cooper

* James Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [15 Feb 02 21:31]:
> Does anyone know if there is an email client for mandrake/linux that allows 
> me to check my email from Hotmail a la Outlook Express?

all of them, you just need something to negotiate access to hotmail:
http://www.cudeso.be/linuxdoc/gotmail.html

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[newbie] scanner doesn't work

2002-02-15 Thread Scott

Hello
I'm trying to install sane 1.0.6 in order to get an epson 1240U scanner 
working in Mandrake 8.0.  I have installed the backend, but when I try the 
frontend I get the following error message:


*** The sane-config script installed by SANE could not be found
*** If SANE was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
*** your path, or set the SANE_CONFIG environment variable to the
*** full path to sane-config.
**
ERROR: Couldn't find SANE libraries (sane-backends). Possible reasons:
 - sane-backends isn't installed (install sane-backends before
   sane-frontends
 - the SANE header files aren't installed (if you installed
   SANE as RPM make sure you also included the sane-devel RPM)
 - the SANE libraries can't be found because /usr/local/lib/ isn't
   searched by the dynamic linker (see INSTALL for details)

I have changed the following line in sane-cofig from   prefix="/usr/local"  
to prefix="/usr/local/bin" , guessing that this is the environmental variable.

I have also added the line "usr/local/lib/" to /etc/ld.so.conf and called 
ldconfig (as root).
I still get this error message.  
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks,
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Re: [newbie] Email client that allows checking of hotmail

2002-02-15 Thread Erylon

This summer,  a visiting friend with a hotmail account was getting his mail 
on one of my Linux boxes using Netscape Communicator.  So, unless hotmail has 
changed since then, that should do it.

e.

On Friday 15 February 2002 18:12, you wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> Does anyone know if there is an email client for mandrake/linux that allows
> me to check my email from Hotmail a la Outlook Express?
>
> Thanks!
>
> James
>
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Re: [newbie] Running slow.

2002-02-15 Thread Erylon

Mandrake 8.x is roughly equivalent to Windows 2000, at least if you are 
running KDE.  That is a serious drag on a P120.  Some things that may help 
are:

Upgrade your kernel to 2.4.17 (this can help, but not much in the case of a 
P120)

Install more ram (again, some help, but the P120 will always be a bottleneck)

Install an older distro (mdk 7.x or RH 6.x--roughly equiv to W95-W98, 
depending on how far back in the 7 series you go and which 2.2.x kernel you 
use).  Personally, with a P120, I wouldn't use anything past mdk 7.1.

Use a lighter gui (I like Xfce a lot).  

Don't use the big, memory hogging apps like StarOffice or Konquerer file 
manager (try Abiword or xwc.  Mozilla may work o.k., but Opera will be 
quicker to load.)

You may be able to tweak 8.1 so that you can use it, but it will never be 
more than just useable.  I have 8.0 on a P200 with 128 megs, running Xfce 
(blackbox is just too minimal for my taste), and with careful selection of 
what apps I use it is just o.k.  7.2 and kernel 2.2.17 was very nice on that 
machine.  With my P233, 284 megs, running Xfce and mdk 8.0, I have a very 
snappy box.  I have made a useable machine of a P75 with 48 megs and RH6.0, 
and a nice one with a P133 with 32 megs and SuSe 6.2, so it is possible with 
the older distros.  You're pushing it with the new ones, though.  jmo

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On Thursday 14 February 2002 20:51, you wrote:

> > Greetings:
> >
> > I recently installed Mandrake 8.1 on my son's machine which consists of a
> > 120Mhz processor and 84meg of ram. It now operates deadly slow. My
> > understanding has been that one advantage of linux is that it runs fine
> > on older equipment ; that it doesn't require the horsepower, so to speak,
> > that other OS's like windows does.
> >
> > Prior to installing Linux on my son's machine he was running windows 95.
> > That moved right along. He likes linux but it is dreadfully slow.
> >
> > I am running a celeron @ 700Mhz with 512 Meg of ram. The speed is much
> > better but still slower than windows ME, which I migrated from.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining. Since I began this journey, I
> > can't seem to get away from my computer. Though the learning is slow, I
> > am learning and enjoying experimenting. On the other hand I have 3 boys
> > in school, 3 machines networked together, and I need a stable system with
> > reasonable speed.
> >
> > Any comments would be helpful. Tnx
> >
> > Jeff - K1LE - SECT


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Re: [newbie] Email client that allows checking of hotmail

2002-02-15 Thread Plexishex

truth be, I have no clue, but my guess would be No. It isn't like microsft to 
let hotmail be checked without something of theirs (ie. Outlook Express) =X. 
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RE: [newbie] Email client that allows checking of hotmail

2002-02-15 Thread Eric Budinger

Hotmail uses HTTP not POP3


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truth be, I have no clue, but my guess would be No. It isn't like
microsft to 
let hotmail be checked without something of theirs (ie. Outlook Express)
=X. 
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Re: [newbie] Email client that allows checking of hotmail

2002-02-15 Thread Mel Roman

>Does anyone know if there is an email client for
>mandrake/linux that allows me to check my email 
>from Hotmail a la Outlook Express?

Assuming Hotmail is just another POP3 mail server,
most of the common E-mail clients will fetch your
E-mail from your Hotmail account.  For example, I use
a @yahoo.com E-mail account for my mailing lists and I
retrieve them using Sylpheed.  I used to use KMail for
the same thing and it worked fine also.  You jsut need
to configure the account settings properly in your
EMail client (the POP3 server name, username,
password,etc...).

Let me know if you have any specific questions
concerning setup.

Good luck,

Mel

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[newbie] Email client that allows checking of hotmail

2002-02-15 Thread James Thomas


Hello everyone,

Does anyone know if there is an email client for mandrake/linux that allows 
me to check my email from Hotmail a la Outlook Express?

Thanks!

James

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[newbie] SSH and GFTP question........

2002-02-15 Thread David

Hello all,

I am trying to connect to sourceforge.net using GFTP 2.0.8 using the 
SSH optionwith no luck

It keeps spitting out : bash: sftpserv: command not found


I have been able to use MS windows and WinSCP2.0 and connect just 
fine.. it is a graphical interface that works like a regular ftp 
client... basically drag and drop..(actually works 
good).. but want to work from my linux desktop instead.
-
I have also been able to connect with GTelnet using the SSH 
option. but don't have a clue how to move files using the 
command line..

Is there any graphical SSH clients that resemble an ftp client I 
tried secpanel 0.31-1 but to no avail..

Any ideas?? 
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[newbie] enlightenment oops

2002-02-15 Thread Michael

I was having a look around enlightenment and i pushed the virtual desktop
windows right over to the right where they seemed to sit better. Then i rolled
them up - right off the side of my screen... now how do i get them back?

Yes i have RTFM, at least i scanned it looking for an answer. I think that in my
home directory there should be a setup file i can delete that will be replaced
when i restart enlightenment again. Can anybody please tell me what/where this
file is and can i delete it ok?

MDK V7.1 and enlightenment V0.16.3

TIA

Michael 

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Re: [newbie] uninstall .tar.gz

2002-02-15 Thread H. Narfi Stefansson

On Friday 15 February 2002 10:12, you wrote:
> Hi,
> Is it possible to somehow uninstall something I compiled and installed
> from a tarball?
>
> TIA
> Roman
For next time:

I think that the best way to handle the installation of tarballs is 
through checkinstall.  Use it to create an rpm based on the tarball, then 
you can uninstall the program with rpm if you want to. No need to mess 
around with 'make uninstall' anymore, which may or may not work. I highly 
recommend this program!

Narfi.

ps. The project's home page is http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/

From the checkinstall page:

A lot of people has asked me how can they remove from their boxes a 
program they compiled and installed from source. Some times -very few- the 
program's author adds an uninstall rule to their Makefile, but that's not 
usually the case. This is my primary reason to write CheckInstall. After 
you ./configure; make your program, CheckInstall will run make install  
(or whatever you tell it to run) and keep track of every file modified by 
this installation, using the excelent installwatch utility written by 
Pancrazio 'Ezio' de Mauro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).

When make install is done, CheckInstall will create a Slackware, RPM or 
Debian compatible package and install it with Slackware's installpkg, "rpm 
-i" or Debian's "dpkg -i" as appropriate, so you can view it's contents 
with pkgtool ("rpm -ql" for RPM users or "dpkg -l" for Debian) or remove 
it with removepkg ("rpm -e"|"dpkg -r"). Aditionally, this script will 
leave you a copy of the installed package in the source directory so you 
can install it wherever you want, which is my second motivation: I don't 
have to compile the same software again and again every time I need to 
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[newbie] Disk Concatenaton in Mandrake 8.1?

2002-02-15 Thread Ben

I'm running out of space on my root partition, and was wondering if anyone 
knows of a way to concatenate a partition with an additional hard drive to 
get more space.  I can scrounge up another hard drive, but don't want to have 
to move/reinstall/copy/etc.  If there's a HOWTO, website, or guru out there 
that can explain how to do this, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks,

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Re: [newbie] Lilo Problems

2002-02-15 Thread Bryan B Whitehead

Any chance you can boot from the mandrake CD and mount / . Then send a
copy of lilo.conf ?

On Thu, 2002-02-14 at 21:00, Carlos Alberto Lima dos Santos wrote:
> Hi bryan,
> 
> I have 2 disks IDE, that are configured of the following form:
> 
> hdc 15GB - windows 2000.
> hdd 10GB - Linux
> 
> The partitions linux are in the following mode:
> hdd1 /
> hdd5 /swap
> hdd6 /usr
> hdd7 /home
> 
> T+
> 
>  --- Bryan B Whitehead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > can you give allot
> more info? like how many disks? scsi? ide? mixed? how
> > is the partitions? 
> > 
> > On Thu, 2002-02-14 at 10:33, Carlos Alberto Lima dos Santos wrote:
> > > I installed windows 2000, after that linux 8.1, but I am with problems
> > to
> > > initiate with lilo.
> > >
> > >The following error occurs, that I am not obtaining to decide, if
> > somebody
> > > will be able to help. 
> > > 
> > > LI
> > >The First estage boot loader was able to load the second stage boot
> > loader,
> > > but has failed to execute. This can either be caused by a geometry mismatch
> > or
> > > by moving /boot/boot.b without running the map installer.
> > > 
> > > T+
> > > 
> > > =
> > > 
> > > Carlos Alberto L. dos Santos (TOCA)
> > > Eng. de Computação - Puc-Campinas(SP) - Brasil
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > Yahoo! GeoCities
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> > GeoCities. É fácil e grátis!
> > > http://br.geocities.yahoo.com/
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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> 
> 
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Re: [newbie] Fragmentation of filesystem

2002-02-15 Thread Dave Sherman

On Fri, 2002-02-15 at 17:02, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> Hello list !
> Now, of course, they asked me : how often do
> you do this defrag-thing ? 
> 
> My answer : Never, 'cause I don't have to : I use linux on my desktop
> and OS/2 on my laptop !

> And here's my very unimportant question to you : was I lying ?

Nope, you were correct.

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[newbie] Fragmentation of filesystem

2002-02-15 Thread Kaj Haulrich

Hello list !

Some collegues of mine recently asked me a question, considering me -
falsely - to be some sort of a PC-guru. They all use flavours of Windows
and frequently have all sorts of problems. Occasionally I'm able to
help, but mostly I'm just telling them to use the "Vulcan Nerve Pinch"
(the windoze three-finger-salute : ) repeatedly until
their systems reboots, eventually running a "scandisk". However, it
seems that after doing so many times their systems slow down quite some.
I've told them to run their defragmentation-program at least once a
month, and the other day I actually watched the program in action,
assembling an enormous amount of files, all spread out over the entire
disk. Took quite some time. Now, of course, they asked me : how often do
you do this defrag-thing ? 

My answer : Never, 'cause I don't have to : I use linux on my desktop
and OS/2 on my laptop !

Now, on the OS/2 - side, I know that the filesystem (HPFS) is arranged
in a binary tree fashion, which makes disk-reads/writes extremely fast
and at the same time re-arranges everything to optimal performance. One
can constantly notice the action on the disk : when there's no other
activity going on, the system uses the "idle" time to clean things up.
Cool !

On my linux-box I use the Reiser filesystem. Never had a problem with
it, even after a power-outage. Seems a little mysterious, though.
Earlier, when I used ext2, the system made a file-check every 20'th boot
or so, displaying messages like : "1.6% non-contigous". Fine with me,
but the Reiser-FS just boots and boots happily and never seems to care
about fragmentation at all ?  Performance is blazingly fast even running
KDE, Star Office and all sorts of other applications simultanously -
never seems to need a defragmentation a la windoze. I guess the same
goes for other journalling filesystems as well : ext3, XFS and JFS (the
latter really being an OS/2 thing) ???

And here's my very unimportant question to you : was I lying ?

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[newbie] Starcraft/Winex networking now works! Hurrah!

2002-02-15 Thread Ronald J. Hall

Red-Alert!

Blizzard just released a v1.09 patch for Starcraft/Broodwars (there are 2
separate files) and it now supports UDP - TCP/IP!

I just tried it with Winex v1.03, and I could create a game and the 2 other
machines on my LAN could join in. I was not able to join in on one other
machine when they created a game though.

BUT still...its workable networking! This was my final/last reason for keeping
Windog around. When I get Mandrake v8.2 and/or a new hard drive (whichever
comes first), there'll be no more Windoze partition uglying up my beloved 'Nix
box! 

PS Lets party! ;-)

PSS Not had a chance to try Battlenet yet!

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Re: [newbie] Program with ./configure

2002-02-15 Thread Bill Davidson

Just for clarification. Did you 'cd' into the directory and type 
'./configure'? All that stuff without quotes.

Bill

On Friday 15 February 2002 04:14 pm, Daniel Chen wrote:
> Yes, I am sure the configure file is in the same directory and it is set
> to executable. Also, I am sure the first line of the file is looked
> like #!/bin/sh
>
> I tried to type in
> /bin/sh configure
>
> and I got the result like this:
> : command not found
> : command not found
> : command not found
> : command not found
> : command not found
> : command not found
>
> (repeat many many times..:-)
>
> : command not found
> : command not found
> : command not found
> : command not found
>
> 'onfigure: line 837: syntax error near unexpected token `in
> 'onfigure: line 837: `  case X$UNAME in
>
> So, does anyone have idea of what happening with my Mandrake 8.1?
>
> BTW, thank you very much for your guys' help!
>
> Daniel



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Re: [newbie] uninstall .tar.gz

2002-02-15 Thread Paul

On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:12:55 +0100 Roman wrote:

>Hi,
>Is it possible to somehow uninstall something I compiled and installed
>from a tarball?

This depends on the make script. If it supports uninstalling, you can do

make uninstall

Good luck
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Re: [newbie] Memory(Again)

2002-02-15 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 11:41:03 -0500
Marcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dear All,
> 
> Thanks very much for your input and suggestions. Since memory is inexpensive 
> right now I am leaning towards increasing it. I have a program that asks for 
> 256 megs of ram. It is a SAP program. My hard drive is new anyway and it is 
> possible I may decide to upgrade the cpu in the future. I found old receipts 
> for the memory modules on my system and it is using 2 EPS-RM716E72pin EDO 
> memory module 16 MB and 2 EPS-RM732EDRAM 32MB SIMM MODULE EDO. I did find a 
> supplier for the 72 pin ED
> O Simms modules. Does this mean I need to buy 2 or 4 of those and do they all 
> need to be the Simms modules? Your help will be greatly appreciated here, 
> because I will order these right away if I can find the right ones.
> 
> By the way, is it difficult to upgrade the cpu? What is the best to upgrade 
> it to?
> 
 
Marcia

I do not know from what site you plan to purchase your memory but 1 thought that you 
might wish to consider that if the cost of the memory is going to be $100 or more and 
If your current computer case can fit 
an ATX board then it might be more cost and performance effective for 
you to purchase a MOBO CPU combo and 256MB of either PC133 or DDR.
You can find 1gig athlon combos for around $100 and the ram for $50 or less.
And of course lower CPU at even lessor prices.

And if you read the docs and do not let it intimidate you putting a system together is 
easy.
I am at the point now that I would not Have a pre-built system.


Charles


 



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[newbie] Md menu - where is it kept

2002-02-15 Thread Neville Cobb

If I had to completely  reinstall md8.1 what file would I need to backup 
in order to reinstate my present KDE/Md menu structure.

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Re: [newbie] command for checking security level?

2002-02-15 Thread Kaj Haulrich

On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 00:30:45 -0800, db wrote:

>>>Does anyone know it?
>>>
>>>
 db wrote:
 >
 > I am new to Mandrake and Linux.  During the install  I setup the "tiny
 > firewall" and changed the Security level to Medium.  Upon revisting the
 > security section (thru the KDE interface) twice since, it tells me that
>>>the
 > firewall is in place but each time following a reboot the security level
 > seems to return to "Welcome to Crackers".  Can anyone explain this and
>>>tell
 > me if I am doing anything wrong?

 There's nothing wrong, db ! - Just a "glitch" in the dialog-box. In fact
 you ARE in medium level. You can check it : open a file-manager (i.e.
 Konqueror in KDE of Nautilus in Gnome) and try to read someting in a
 directory not belonging to you, for example : /root or another users
 files. Impossible ! - There's a command-line option to check the levels
 as well, but I don't remember it, sorry. Anyway : it's allright.

 Regards

 Kaj haulrich

Well, after thinking about it, db, I suggest "msec" (without quotes) as
root. If in doubt, read the man msec. Can't do it myself now, 'cause
I'm using an OS/2 -box. If you want "medium" security you should type
(as root still) : msec 3. Then watch the output scroll by or pipe it to
less. As far as I remember there's more information somewhere in
/usr/doc/msec *  or some such. Anyway, there's nothing wrong with your
system.

Kaj Haulrich
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [newbie] Booting problems

2002-02-15 Thread skinky

On Friday 15 February 2002 23:14, Spyros Spyropoulos wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have the following problem.
>
> I recently got a second hard drive, to install my (Mandrake 8.0)linux.
> Prior to that I had linux installed on a partition of my first hard drive.
>
> However, once the intsallation was complete, Lilo could not be
> (re)intsalled for some reason.
>
> Now it is looking for the linux partition in the wrong place (on the
> partition in was intalled before) when I try to boot (I can boot windows as
> it is on the same partition it was before).
>
> Foolish enough, I did not create a boot disk when I intsalled linux, and
> every try to create a boot disk via windows (you get this option when you
> intert the mandrake installation cd) that would enable me to boot and edit
> the lilo.conf file failed. Booting via CD does not seem to help either.
>
> Any ideas how I could fix this?


You can boot with the first Mandrake cd then at the prompt type:

F1
rescue
chroot /mnt

Now you can check/edit the entries in /etc/lilo.conf then type

lilo

and reboot.  HTH

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Re: [newbie] Program with ./configure

2002-02-15 Thread Daniel Chen

Yes, I am sure the configure file is in the same directory and it is set
to executable. Also, I am sure the first line of the file is looked
like #!/bin/sh

I tried to type in
/bin/sh configure
and I got the result like this:
: command not found
: command not found
: command not found
: command not found
: command not found
: command not found
(repeat many many times..:-)
: command not found
: command not found
: command not found
: command not found
'onfigure: line 837: syntax error near unexpected token `in
'onfigure: line 837: `  case X$UNAME in

So, does anyone have idea of what happening with my Mandrake 8.1?

BTW, thank you very much for your guys' help!

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Re: [newbie] Memory(Again)

2002-02-15 Thread Randy Kramer

Marcia wrote:
> Thanks very much for your input and suggestions. Since memory is inexpensive
> right now I am leaning towards increasing it. I have a program that asks for
> 256 megs of ram. It is a SAP program. My hard drive is new anyway and it is
> possible I may decide to upgrade the cpu in the future. I found old receipts
> for the memory modules on my system and it is using 2 EPS-RM716E72pin EDO
> memory module 16 MB and 2 EPS-RM732EDRAM 32MB SIMM MODULE EDO. I did find a
> supplier for the 72 pin ED
> O Simms modules. Does this mean I need to buy 2 or 4 of those and do they all
> need to be the Simms modules? Your help will be greatly appreciated here,
> because I will order these right away if I can find the right ones.

Marcia,

Before you order anything: Do you have the instructions for your
motherboard?  It should tell you what combinations of memory are allowed
-- confirm that whatever you order will work with your motherboard.  If
you don't have the instructions, get the model number and check with the
manufacturer.

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Re: [newbie] Which Services to Keep/Stop ?

2002-02-15 Thread Dave Sherman

On Fri, 2002-02-15 at 13:23, Hanan Z. Shargi wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Every once in a while somebody recommends that Services that aren't used 
> should be stopped ... 
> ever since I started using Linux, everytime I'm asked during the installation: 
> should I start these services at startup? ... I say YES :-)
> 
> would someone please explicitly state WHICH services should run in a normal pc 
> (notebook here ) one that is connected to the internet through DSL and doing 
> usual games.., net browsing, text editing stuff ??
> 
> AND/OR  refer us to a good document to read about services and what they do.

In Mandrake Control Center, under System -> Services, you see a listing
of what services are run at bootup. This list is essentially the same as
the files in /etc/rc5.d/, if your system boots into X, which Mandrake
defaults to and probably most Mandrake users prefer.

I run an IBM ThinkPad i1500, and here is my /etc/rc5.d listing:
./   S11internet@  S56rawdevices@  S77Win4Lin@  S95kheader@
../  S12syslog@S60cups@S85gpm@  S99local@
S08ipvsadm@  S20random@S70alsa@S90crond@
S09pcmcia@   S26apmd@  S71sound@   S90xfs@
S10network@  S55ntpd@  S75keytable@S95anacron@

(ignore the preceding numbers and following '@' symbols and just look at
the service names).

I also have DSL at home (through my home LAN), and I need network/LAN
connectivity at my clients' offices, so I have a PCMCIA network card.

I only use Samba client to connect to other computers, but I do not
share anything on my own drive (as a "server"), so it is not listed
here. I do not provide any server-type services like http, ftp, smtp,
etc. Some people set up Sendmail or Postfix to run on their workstations
so they can send email directly, but I have no need for this and it can
be a security hole if you don't know how to configure it properly.

Notice that I have Win4Lin. This allows me to run Windows 98SE as an
application under Linux, for the few Windows applications which I still
need to use. Win4Lin requires its own kernel-based service to work.

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Re: [newbie] uninstall .tar.gz

2002-02-15 Thread Onur Kucuk



RK> Hi,
RK> Is it possible to somehow uninstall something I compiled and installed
RK> from a tarball?

RK> TIA
RK> Roman


 Does not guarantee to 100% work, but mostly does.

 Go to the source directory of that app and do "make uninstall".
 If you have deleted it already, untar it again, do ./configure (with
 the options you used during installation) and then do the "make
 uninstall".

 If there is no uninstall rule for make, you will need to trace the
 files tru Makefile.

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[newbie] uninstall .tar.gz

2002-02-15 Thread Roman Korcek

Hi,
Is it possible to somehow uninstall something I compiled and installed
from a tarball?

TIA
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[newbie] Which Services to Keep/Stop ?

2002-02-15 Thread Hanan Z. Shargi

Hi All,

Every once in a while somebody recommends that Services that aren't used 
should be stopped ... 
ever since I started using Linux, everytime I'm asked during the installation: 
should I start these services at startup? ... I say YES :-)

would someone please explicitly state WHICH services should run in a normal pc 
(notebook here ) one that is connected to the internet through DSL and doing 
usual games.., net browsing, text editing stuff ??

AND/OR  refer us to a good document to read about services and what they do.

Many thanks.


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Re: [newbie] Host access

2002-02-15 Thread JSheble

thanx... i've found some fairly good resources online for configuring and 
using xinetd...

At 12:15 PM 2/15/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>On Fri, 2002-02-15 at 11:49, JSheble wrote:
> > thanx... you were a tremendous help...  I guess I need to figure out the
> > xinetd.conf file since I don't seem to have indetd running...
>
>I'd offer to help, but my xinetd experience is practically zero. I have
>used inetd, but they are quite different from what I have seen.
>
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Re: [newbie] Set Backup

2002-02-15 Thread Randy Kramer

Barran, Richard wrote:
> Also, when I want to run a script I've written myself, I just change to the
> directory the script is kept in, and type the script name. I don't prefix it
> with a "./"
> Am I missing something here?

Yes, maybe.  Does this work because you have "." on your path, or does
it so happen that you usually write scripts and store them in a
directory that is on the path?  Putting "." on the path is a security
concern, in that someone with access to your system could put a file in
your directory named, for example "ls" that would act like ls plus do
something nefarious.

Randy Kramer

PS: I thought the shebang line was required (!/bin/bash), or is it only
required if you are running a script that is for other than the default
shell?  Even so, it might be "good practice" to always include the
shebang line -- then it may be more likely to work if you take the
script to another system.



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Re: [newbie] Set Backup

2002-02-15 Thread Anuerin G. Diaz

On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 09:31:09 -
"Barran, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> revealed these words to me:

> 
> Speaking as a newbie... I thought scripts had to end with a ".sh"? Or is
> that just a convention?
> Also, when I want to run a script I've written myself, I just change to the
> directory the script is kept in, and type the script name. I don't prefix it
> with a "./"
> Am I missing something here?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Richard
> 


.sh is just a convention so users can see what interpreter is to be used with the 
script ( .csh, .ksh, .py are some of the other endings but the list does not end 
there). you could make it end in '.nonsense' and it will be executed by the 
interpreter specified by its first line (i.e #!/bin/bash), or if it is still missing, 
the current interpreter (which is your shell).

echo your PATH environment ( $ echo $PATH ) and see if there is a lone dot in the 
resulting list of colon-delimited directories. i assume you have it which is 
considered by many to be a security risk. the default setting is to exclude the 
current directory from the PATH variable to limit the potential of running a malicious 
executable placed in a directory which is named after a common utility. here is a 
scenario.

assuming your PATH variable looks like this ".:/bin/:/usr/local/bin:..." and an 
intruder with 'maliscious intent' ( a hacker or a friend trying to put a trick on you) 
got an access to your account and created a script containing the following code:

#!/bin/bash

rm -rf ~
echo "Hi, you just toasted you home directory! Have a nice day."


and saved it on your home directory with the filename 'ls' with matching execute 
permissions. then you log-in, was put in your home directory. you issued ls to get a 
directory listing. since bash will be looking first for a ls executable in the current 
directory (look at the PATH variable), you could just guess how big the intruder's 
smile would be after that moment. *grin*

ciao!

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Re: [newbie] Host access

2002-02-15 Thread Dave Sherman

On Fri, 2002-02-15 at 11:49, JSheble wrote:
> thanx... you were a tremendous help...  I guess I need to figure out the 
> xinetd.conf file since I don't seem to have indetd running...

I'd offer to help, but my xinetd experience is practically zero. I have
used inetd, but they are quite different from what I have seen.

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Re: [newbie] Memory(Again)

2002-02-15 Thread Dave Sherman

On Fri, 2002-02-15 at 10:41, Marcia wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> Thanks very much for your input and suggestions. Since memory is inexpensive 
> right now I am leaning towards increasing it. I have a program that asks for 
> 256 megs of ram. It is a SAP program. My hard drive is new anyway and it is 
> possible I may decide to upgrade the cpu in the future. I found old receipts 
> for the memory modules on my system and it is using 2 EPS-RM716E72pin EDO 
> memory module 16 MB and 2 EPS-RM732EDRAM 32MB SIMM MODULE EDO. I did find a 
> supplier for the 72 pin ED
> O Simms modules. Does this mean I need to buy 2 or 4 of those and do they all 
> need to be the Simms modules? Your help will be greatly appreciated here, 
> because I will order these right away if I can find the right ones.

You will find that as long as it is 72-pin (SIMM) EDO, it should work
fine. SIMM modules came in a couple of types, 30-pin and 72-pin. Your
are both 72-pin SIMMs. As far as I know, EDO was/is only available in
the 72-pin variety (and not the 30-pin), so you should be safe.

> By the way, is it difficult to upgrade the cpu? What is the best to upgrade 
> it to?

CPUs are easy to upgrade, *as long as your motherboard will support the
increased speed*. You just unlatch and lift a single lever to loosen the
CPU in its socket, pull it out, drop in the new one and push the lever
back down into its latch. You will probably also need to remove the heat
sink on top of the CPU, but that is usually also a pretty easy thing.

As an example, my first Win95 PC had a Pentium 120MHz CPU running on a
60MHz front-side bus (FSB) with a 2x clock multiplier. If you don't see
the relationship, notice that 60 x 2 = 120. Therefore, the CPU speed in
MHz (megahertz) is always a product of the front-side bus multiplied by
the clock speed multiplier.

I later looked at the motherboard specs, and found that I could increase
the FSB from 60 to 66 MHz, which would effectively also give me a 133MHz
CPU speed (66 x 2 = 132, but in fact the 66MHz was really 66...., so
it comes out to 133 when doubled).

Even later, I also noticed that I could increase the clock multiplier
from 2 to 2.5 or even 3! This would give me yet another speed boost,
from 133MHz to 166 (66 x 2.5) or 200MHz (66 x 3). I tried to change it
with my current CPU, but the CPU itself couldn't handle that clock
speed, and refused to boot. I then purchased a 200MHz Pentium, popped it
into my motherboard, and whee! I had my 200MHz system running
perfectly.

Now, noticing that you are running a 200MHz CPU already, you will need
to check your motherboard specs (often available from the PC
manufacturer) to see if it can handle a higher clock multiplier and/or
higher front-side bus speed. Chances are pretty good it will *not* be
able to handle a faster FSB, but it *will* take a higher clock
multiplier. Assuming this is the case, and that your clock multiplier is
3x, then if you can get it to 3.5x or 4x you should be able to handle a
Pentium 233 or 266MHz CPU. I think 266MHz was the fastest Pentium that
Intel made, but it is possible they came out with a 300 or even 333. I
know the Pentium II CPUs started at 233 and went up from there, I just
don't remember how much crossover there was in the speed (MHz) ratings
between the original Pentium and the Pentium II.

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RE: [newbie] Memory(Again)

2002-02-15 Thread Myers, Dennis R NWO
Title: RE: [newbie] Memory(Again)





since all four slots are 72 pin It would seem reasonable that the best choice would be to replace the two 16mb modules with 32mb SIMM EDO. SEE: http://192.216.185.10/mwave/ProdMR-MW.hmx?UID=CN%2D1121954&CID=&updepts=MR&DNAME=%3Cb%3EMemory+%2D+Mwave%3C%2Fb%3E&back=ProdMR-MW.hmx?  Current competitive prices I have seen. I am not sure but believe that with simm it is always best to upgrade in pairs. HTH  Dennis M.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Marcia
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 10:41 AM
To: Marcia
Subject: [newbie] Memory(Again)



Dear All,


Thanks very much for your input and suggestions. Since memory is inexpensive 
right now I am leaning towards increasing it. I have a program that asks for 
256 megs of ram. It is a SAP program. My hard drive is new anyway and it is 
possible I may decide to upgrade the cpu in the future. I found old receipts 
for the memory modules on my system and it is using 2 EPS-RM716E72pin EDO 
memory module 16 MB and 2 EPS-RM732EDRAM 32MB SIMM MODULE EDO. I did find a 
supplier for the 72 pin ED
O Simms modules. Does this mean I need to buy 2 or 4 of those and do they all 
need to be the Simms modules? Your help will be greatly appreciated here, 
because I will order these right away if I can find the right ones.


By the way, is it difficult to upgrade the cpu? What is the best to upgrade 
it to?


Thanks very much for all of your help and suggestions.


Marcia





Re: [newbie] Host access

2002-02-15 Thread JSheble

thanx... you were a tremendous help...  I guess I need to figure out the 
xinetd.conf file since I don't seem to have indetd running...

At 11:21 AM 2/15/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>On Fri, 2002-02-15 at 10:52, JSheble wrote:
> > Couldn't I add the sshd service to the xinetd or inetd config files to 
> open
> > and start those services, thus forcing access rules in hosts.* files to be
> > enforced?
>
>Yes, as long as the server is fairly low-traffic (which it sounds like
>it will be, since you are limiting access to only two hosts/IP
>addresses).
>
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[newbie] Memory(Again)

2002-02-15 Thread Marcia

Dear All,

Thanks very much for your input and suggestions. Since memory is inexpensive 
right now I am leaning towards increasing it. I have a program that asks for 
256 megs of ram. It is a SAP program. My hard drive is new anyway and it is 
possible I may decide to upgrade the cpu in the future. I found old receipts 
for the memory modules on my system and it is using 2 EPS-RM716E72pin EDO 
memory module 16 MB and 2 EPS-RM732EDRAM 32MB SIMM MODULE EDO. I did find a 
supplier for the 72 pin ED
O Simms modules. Does this mean I need to buy 2 or 4 of those and do they all 
need to be the Simms modules? Your help will be greatly appreciated here, 
because I will order these right away if I can find the right ones.

By the way, is it difficult to upgrade the cpu? What is the best to upgrade 
it to?

Thanks very much for all of your help and suggestions.

Marcia



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Re: [newbie] Host access

2002-02-15 Thread Dave Sherman

On Fri, 2002-02-15 at 10:52, JSheble wrote:
> Couldn't I add the sshd service to the xinetd or inetd config files to open 
> and start those services, thus forcing access rules in hosts.* files to be 
> enforced?

Yes, as long as the server is fairly low-traffic (which it sounds like
it will be, since you are limiting access to only two hosts/IP
addresses).

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Re: [newbie] Host access

2002-02-15 Thread JSheble

At 10:29 AM 2/15/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>On Fri, 2002-02-15 at 09:50, JSheble wrote:
> > could somebody help me out with my hosts.allow and hosts.allow files?
> >
> > I'd like to allow access to the web server to anyone, but FTP and SSH I
> > want to limit to two specific IPs...  could somebody learn me the entries
> > I'll want to make to allow this?
>
>Those files are only used with the inetd and xinetd daemons. Since
>Apache is not controlled by these (it runs as a separate service, the
>httpd daemon), your hosts.* files will not affect access to your
>website. You will need to consult the Apache documentation (maybe in
>/usr/share/doc/apache, or check the Apache website) for this.
>
>The same goes for ssh, which also runs as a separate service, the sshd
>daemon. 'man sshd' for more information.

Couldn't I add the sshd service to the xinetd or inetd config files to open 
and start those services, thus forcing access rules in hosts.* files to be 
enforced?




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Re: SV: [newbie] Memory

2002-02-15 Thread secfoc

as far as i know, the vx-chipset was able to cache more than 64mb...
but...
because of the vx-chipset being able to work with single ram-modules instead of pairs 
and the way the chipset worked to accomplish this, the vx was slower than a "normal" 
chipset.
the one and only master chipset in this era was hx...



on the other hand, when working with 200mhz, there is no need for the last piece of 
performance anyway :)


Am 15.02.2002 15:09:12, schrieb Joacim Wängdahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>Another thing to really consider is the memory and cache support in your
>chipset. When 200 MHz was a speedy computer the i430Vx and i430Tx
>chipsets were common. These chipsets can only cache 64 MB of RAM and an
>increase from that amount will lead to a part of the RAM being uncached.
>Worth thinking of. More memory might even slow the system down. With KDE
>or Gnome and especially when using many applications at the same time
>more memory will, however, be worth it. Uncached memory is extremely
>faster then swap-space.
>
>I had a 200 MHz K6 and for me an increase from 64 MB to 128 MB (and from
>PC66 to PC100) made a huge increase in performance.
>
>Good Luck
>/Joacim
>
>> -Ursprungligt meddelande-
>> Från: Mario Michael da Costa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>> Skickat: den 15 februari 2002 05:37
>> Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Ämne: Re: [newbie] Memory
>> 
>> 
>> hmmm, 96 megs is a lot of RAM IMHO, having more RAM won't hurt, but is
>> the type of RAM that you want available ? with the 200 mmx systems,
>> the SDRAM has to have 60 - 70 ns timing. most modern SDRAMS have 10
>> less ns timing. even the smaller SIMMS are hard to find. check and see
>> wether the RAM that you want will be supported by your mobo. refer to
>> your mobo manual for this.
>> 
>> besides it is not always true that incrasing your ram will increase
>> the speed of your computer, the reverse is also possible. offhand, 128
>> MB would be ideal for a 200 mmx system, you have 96 which is good
>> enough.
>> 
>> switch to windowmaker/fvwm(2)/enlightenment instead of gnome or kde.
>> 
>> Thank You,
>> Regards,
>> mario
>> 
>> Roy wrote:
>> > 
>> > ram is the biggest bottle neck on a machine.  installing 
>> ram will help out
>> > alot by improving most software preformace and reduce the 
>> read-write caching
>> > to your hard drive
>> > roy
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: Marcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 1:26 PM
>> > Subject: [newbie] Memory
>> > 
>> > > Dear All,
>> > >
>> > > Happy Valentine's Day.
>> > >
>> > > I have a desktop computer that is only 200mhz and has 96 
>> megs of ram. I
>> > would
>> > > like to upgrade it to have 256 megs of ram but is that 
>> all for nothing if
>> > I
>> > > do not upgrade the cpu?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks for the help.
>> > > Sincerely,
>> > >
>> > > Marcia
>> > >
>> > >
>> > 
>> > 
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Re: Re: [newbie] Booting problems

2002-02-15 Thread Spyros Spyropoulos


> On Fri, 15 February 2002, Spyros Spyropoulos wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Hi, 
> > Booting via CD does not seem to help either. 
> > 
> > Any ideas how I could fix this?
> 
> Did you hit F-1 when you booted from the CD?
> This puts you into a rescue set of menu options.
> 
> Barry

I did. I used the rescue option to boot linux, however it seems that in this mode you 
cannot do much - it does not mount any harddrives. 

Maybe I should try to manualy mount the harddrives (hm stupid me did'nt thought of it 
earlier).

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Re: [newbie] Install on W98

2002-02-15 Thread Roy

install windoze first then install mandrake...

roy

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Subject: [newbie] Install on W98


> I have Linux Mandrake 8.0. When start the instalationl, what i have to do
to
> install in W98 without partitioning.?
> Ok
>
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Re: [newbie] change ownership & group

2002-02-15 Thread Roman Korcek

Hey,

> I just upgrade my linux to Mandrake 8.1 from 8.0, but now I can't change the
> ownership or group in windows partition (/mnt/win_c and /mnt/win_d) the 
> system said that action not permitted (not enough permission, when I try to 
> change in properties) even I login as root. I try by using console and GUI 
> but the result is same. Is it any special thing to do that I miss?

*In* the windows partition? I guess that's not supposed to work, since
it's vfat.

Right, anyone?

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[newbie] Install on W98

2002-02-15 Thread Que más da

I have Linux Mandrake 8.0. When start the instalationl, what i have to do to 
install in W98 without partitioning.?
Ok

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Re: [newbie] Running slow.

2002-02-15 Thread Dave Sherman

On Fri, 2002-02-15 at 08:16, Dave Sherman wrote:
> I actually used to run RedHat 5.1 on an old 486 (100 MHz, so it was a
> "fast" 486) with 16 MB RAM. Using an older version of X (3.3.6 I think)
> and the AfterStep window manager, it was quite peppy -- wy
> faster than the Win95 that was installed when I got it. But that was an
> older distribution, *designed for older hardware* (at the time, the two
> would have been somewhat concurrent, so it wasn't really "old" hardware
> when RH 5.1 came out). If you really want to run Linux on that old box,
> try finding an older distribution releasr, like Mandrake 7.x or even an
> older RedHat 5.x release. You will notice a BIG difference.

FYI, I still have my old RedHat 5.1, RedHat 6.2, and Mandrake 7.2 CDs. I
could burn copies of one or more versions and ship them to you if you
want. Let me know.

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Re: [newbie] Running slow.

2002-02-15 Thread shane

On Friday 15 February 2002 01:49, you spoke unto me thusly:

> If speed and footprint are concerns, then Blackbox or Windowmaker might
> be even better choices.  I believe Blackbox *might* be the lightest

either blackbox or fvwm is the lightest would be my bet, but i have nothing 
to back that up   ;-)

i recommend e first cause i kinda like it.  nothing more.  while not as 
light as others it does more.  always trading off.

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Re: [newbie] Running slow.

2002-02-15 Thread Dave Sherman

On Thu, 2002-02-14 at 21:50, Jeffrey Madore wrote:
> 
> Greetings:
> 
> I recently installed Mandrake 8.1 on my son's machine which consists of a 
> 120Mhz processor and 84meg of ram. It now operates deadly slow. My 
> understanding has been that one advantage of linux is that it runs fine on 
> older equipment ; that it doesn't require the horsepower, so to speak, that 
> other OS's like windows does.
> 
> Prior to installing Linux on my son's machine he was running windows 95. That 
> moved right along. He likes linux but it is dreadfully slow.
> 
> I am running a celeron @ 700Mhz with 512 Meg of ram. The speed is much better 
> but still slower than windows ME, which I migrated from.

As others have mentioned, KDE (and Gnome) can be a real resource hog.
It's not that they are necessarily bloated, but they have a lot of
functionality and eye candy that just uses power. Basically, these
desktop environments are designed to be run on modern hardware. Using
lighter window managers like BlackBox, XFCE, etc. will definitely help.
The lightest wm is probably twm, but it is so ugly in its default setup
that it will likely make your eyes bleed upon first viewing.

Another thing to keep in mind is hardware driver support, especially for
X. I have found that if I can find an optimal X server (approximately
equivalent to a video driver) for my systems, they perform much better
than using the "generic super vga 1024x768" X server. In fact, I would
say performance/speed doubles or even triples with a good X server.

Yet another issue can be if you have too many unnecessary services
(especially network services, but possibly others) running. Use Mandrake
Control Center to look at boot-time services, and determine which ones
you really need and which ones you don't. Then, stop them on the spot
and disable them from running at boot-up.

I actually used to run RedHat 5.1 on an old 486 (100 MHz, so it was a
"fast" 486) with 16 MB RAM. Using an older version of X (3.3.6 I think)
and the AfterStep window manager, it was quite peppy -- wy
faster than the Win95 that was installed when I got it. But that was an
older distribution, *designed for older hardware* (at the time, the two
would have been somewhat concurrent, so it wasn't really "old" hardware
when RH 5.1 came out). If you really want to run Linux on that old box,
try finding an older distribution releasr, like Mandrake 7.x or even an
older RedHat 5.x release. You will notice a BIG difference.

Finally, I've said this before and I'll say it again. The *anecdotal*
evidence for Linux running faster than Windows is primarily taken from
server performance, where Linux is run with no GUI (no X Windows) at
all. If you take out X Windows, even an old 486 with 16 MB RAM will fly
under Linux. In fact, my church uses a Pentium 166 with 256 MB RAM for a
Linux Samba server (and a few other network services), and it runs
great. I wouldn't even *think* of putting Windows NT on that old beast!

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SV: [newbie] Memory

2002-02-15 Thread Joacim Wängdahl

Another thing to really consider is the memory and cache support in your
chipset. When 200 MHz was a speedy computer the i430Vx and i430Tx
chipsets were common. These chipsets can only cache 64 MB of RAM and an
increase from that amount will lead to a part of the RAM being uncached.
Worth thinking of. More memory might even slow the system down. With KDE
or Gnome and especially when using many applications at the same time
more memory will, however, be worth it. Uncached memory is extremely
faster then swap-space.

I had a 200 MHz K6 and for me an increase from 64 MB to 128 MB (and from
PC66 to PC100) made a huge increase in performance.

Good Luck
/Joacim

> -Ursprungligt meddelande-
> Från: Mario Michael da Costa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Skickat: den 15 februari 2002 05:37
> Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Ämne: Re: [newbie] Memory
> 
> 
> hmmm, 96 megs is a lot of RAM IMHO, having more RAM won't hurt, but is
> the type of RAM that you want available ? with the 200 mmx systems,
> the SDRAM has to have 60 - 70 ns timing. most modern SDRAMS have 10
> less ns timing. even the smaller SIMMS are hard to find. check and see
> wether the RAM that you want will be supported by your mobo. refer to
> your mobo manual for this.
> 
> besides it is not always true that incrasing your ram will increase
> the speed of your computer, the reverse is also possible. offhand, 128
> MB would be ideal for a 200 mmx system, you have 96 which is good
> enough.
> 
> switch to windowmaker/fvwm(2)/enlightenment instead of gnome or kde.
> 
> Thank You,
> Regards,
> mario
> 
> Roy wrote:
> > 
> > ram is the biggest bottle neck on a machine.  installing 
> ram will help out
> > alot by improving most software preformace and reduce the 
> read-write caching
> > to your hard drive
> > roy
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Marcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 1:26 PM
> > Subject: [newbie] Memory
> > 
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > Happy Valentine's Day.
> > >
> > > I have a desktop computer that is only 200mhz and has 96 
> megs of ram. I
> > would
> > > like to upgrade it to have 256 megs of ram but is that 
> all for nothing if
> > I
> > > do not upgrade the cpu?
> > >
> > > Thanks for the help.
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Marcia
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
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Re: [newbie] DVDRom problem

2002-02-15 Thread brown1302

Thank you.
But the question was "How do I upgrade the firmware in a 24/10/40B drive?
This was raised because your web page provides for an firmware upgrade for
the 24/10/40X drive, indicating that there was a difference.

Please respond to the question, not whether an upgrade is available.

Ken Brown
- Original Message -
From: "Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 6:38 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] DVDRom problem


> Andy Gay wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for help so far.
> > I have tried several things.
> > The dmesg reported:
> > hdc: Toshiba DVD-ROM SDC2502, ATAPI CD-DVD ROM drive
>
> Okay, so its /dev/hdc
>
> > I did a
> > ln -s /dev/cdrom /dev/hdc as root and got
> > /dev/hdc already exists
>
> So the link already exists
>
> > Doing
> > ls -l /dev/cdrom
> > I get
> > lr-xr-xr-x  1   rootroot  16 Feb 14 10:09   dev/cdrom -->
> > ../cdroms/cdrom0
>
> I'm not entirely sure why this link is pointing that way... Can someone
else
> jump in here and help?
>
> > Something keeps reseting /dev/cdrom back group=root after I set
> > permissions to myself as group
>
> Do you have devfs disabled?
>
> > Here is /etc/fstab:
> >
> > /dev/hda5 / ext2 defaults 1 1
> > /dev/hda2 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2
> > none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
> > none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
> > /mnt/cdrom  /mnt/cdrom  supermount
fs=auto,dev=/dev/hdc,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,nosuid,exec,ro,noauto,codep
age=850,nodev 0 0
> > /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount
fs=auto,dev=/dev/fd0,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,nosuid,exec,noauto,nodev,co
depage=850 0 0
> > /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat defaults 0 0
> > none /proc proc defaults 0 0
> > /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0
> >
> > What am I not doing?
> > Thanks for ongoing help.
> > Andy
>
> Are you using v8.1 of Mandrake? If so, supermount is broken in it, and
> disabled (by default from my understanding).
>
> Looks like supermount is turned on in your /etc/fstab file...
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake and ISA cards

2002-02-15 Thread Ronald J. Hall

Renato Tognaccini wrote:



> On the other machine MDK 8.x detected the soundcard (classic soundblaster)
> but I was not able to get it working, detected my LS120 zip drive, but it did
> not mounted it because, having also a scsi controller, the system created an
> /etc/fstab very confused, my floppy 3.5" mounted on /mnt/floppy2 and hdb (my
> ls120) mounted on /mnt/floppy, but it does not work.
> 
> On my PCI machine at home MDK 8.x installed succesfully.
> 
> I saw the soundcard problem common to many people in newbie community but it
> seems not solved.
> 
> Bye Renato

Thats odd. I have a classic SB ISA in my 8 year olds computer and Mandrake 8.1
found it out of the box... I didn't have to do anything at all. Wait - well, I
had to turn some channels up in Kmix, as well as tell Xmms to use /dev/dsp but
other than that... ;-)

Guess its just the difference in the hardware surrounding the sound card.

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Re: [newbie] [OT] saw this one in Sridhar's sig

2002-02-15 Thread Ronald J. Hall

shane wrote:
> 
> On Thursday 14 February 2002 18:03, you spoke unto me thusly:
> 
> > Yes, this is entirely true. And this was supposed to be the most secure
> > version yet. Silly Micro$oft ;)
> 
> the act that it is true, does not change the fact that it IS microsofts
> most secure ever.
> 
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> 
> shane

Right. Like saying that our new handy-dandy "carry any form of liquid"
super-bowl is now the most waterproof ever because it only has 5 undisclosed
holes in its construction instead of 10...

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Re: [newbie] DVDRom problem

2002-02-15 Thread Ronald J. Hall

Andy Gay wrote:
> 
> Thanks for help so far.
> I have tried several things.
> The dmesg reported:
> hdc: Toshiba DVD-ROM SDC2502, ATAPI CD-DVD ROM drive

Okay, so its /dev/hdc

> I did a
> ln -s /dev/cdrom /dev/hdc as root and got
> /dev/hdc already exists

So the link already exists

> Doing
> ls -l /dev/cdrom
> I get
> lr-xr-xr-x  1   rootroot  16 Feb 14 10:09   dev/cdrom -->
> ../cdroms/cdrom0

I'm not entirely sure why this link is pointing that way... Can someone else
jump in here and help?

> Something keeps reseting /dev/cdrom back group=root after I set
> permissions to myself as group

Do you have devfs disabled?

> Here is /etc/fstab:
> 
> /dev/hda5 / ext2 defaults 1 1
> /dev/hda2 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2
> none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
> none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
> /mnt/cdrom  /mnt/cdrom  supermount  
>fs=auto,dev=/dev/hdc,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,nosuid,exec,ro,noauto,codepage=850,nodev
> 0 0
> /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount  
>fs=auto,dev=/dev/fd0,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,nosuid,exec,noauto,nodev,codepage=850
> 0 0
> /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat defaults 0 0
> none /proc proc defaults 0 0
> /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0
> 
> What am I not doing?
> Thanks for ongoing help.
> Andy

Are you using v8.1 of Mandrake? If so, supermount is broken in it, and
disabled (by default from my understanding). 

Looks like supermount is turned on in your /etc/fstab file...

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Re: [newbie] ADSL Setup with Mandrake 8.1

2002-02-15 Thread Claudio Mio

Hi,

Im sure it is because I screwed something up on the install that mine is not
setup correctly.
However I did not want to retry it as installing Mandrake 8.1 on a P90 is a
little painful. I had a few crashes as well.

Because of the spec of my machine I did a fairly small install. Just enough
for the firewalling. Then later rpm'd the NDS server as well.

Thanks for the info on the network scripts. Ill look into those files when I
get home.

Re your question. I dont think it will be a problem. In route you can define
routes to addresses which dont exist and they will kick in once they are
available. So the fact that ppp0 drops from time to time should not matter.
In fact mine has dropped once already without any problem (it re-connected
automatically and continued to work).

Claude.

> Hi,
>
> I've got the same modem as you but the routing is set up correctly.
> I used drakconf to configure my setup.
> I see in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts that ifup sets the default route
> and ifup-ppp deletes any existing route prior to that. It's quite
> complicated.
> I'm also planning of setting up a fw using fwbuilder as a front-end. Do
> you think it is possible to define the external interface in our case
> since the address we have is not fixed and the interface, ppp0,
> dissappears from time to time.
> I haven't looked into it I must admit but if you have any experience...
>
> Guy.




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[newbie] kernel messages

2002-02-15 Thread David

I am constantly gtting the following kernel messages:  

kernel: DMA write timed out 
kernel: paraport0: FIFO is stuck 
kernel: paraport0: BUSY timeout (1) incompat_write_block_pio

What do these messages mean?  And how do I fix it? 

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Re: [newbie] Running slow.

2002-02-15 Thread Gerald Waugh

On Thu, 14 Feb 2002, Jeffrey Madore wrote:
> I recently installed Mandrake 8.1 on my son's machine which consists of a 
> 120Mhz processor and 84meg of ram. It now operates deadly slow. My 
> understanding has been that one advantage of linux is that it runs fine on 
> older equipment ; that it doesn't require the horsepower, so to speak, that 
> other OS's like windows does.
> 
> Prior to installing Linux on my son's machine he was running windows 95. That 
> moved right along. He likes linux but it is dreadfully slow.
> 
> I am running a celeron @ 700Mhz with 512 Meg of ram. The speed is much better 
> but still slower than windows ME, which I migrated from.
> 
> Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining. Since I began this journey, I can't 
> seem to get away from my computer. Though the learning is slow, I am learning 
> and enjoying experimenting. On the other hand I have 3 boys in school, 3 
> machines networked together, and I need a stable system with reasonable speed.
> 
> Any comments would be helpful. Tnx
> 

It's probably the X app you are runing, you didn't say.
Thee have been threads concerning different desktops.
Which one are you running, and maybe someone on the list 
can rate the different desktops, - Fastest to Slowest

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Re: [newbie] Memory

2002-02-15 Thread Mario Michael da Costa

hmmm, 96 megs is a lot of RAM IMHO, having more RAM won't hurt, but is
the type of RAM that you want available ? with the 200 mmx systems,
the SDRAM has to have 60 - 70 ns timing. most modern SDRAMS have 10
less ns timing. even the smaller SIMMS are hard to find. check and see
wether the RAM that you want will be supported by your mobo. refer to
your mobo manual for this.

besides it is not always true that incrasing your ram will increase
the speed of your computer, the reverse is also possible. offhand, 128
MB would be ideal for a 200 mmx system, you have 96 which is good
enough.

switch to windowmaker/fvwm(2)/enlightenment instead of gnome or kde.

Thank You,
Regards,
mario

Roy wrote:
> 
> ram is the biggest bottle neck on a machine.  installing ram will help out
> alot by improving most software preformace and reduce the read-write caching
> to your hard drive
> roy
> - Original Message -
> From: Marcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 1:26 PM
> Subject: [newbie] Memory
> 
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Happy Valentine's Day.
> >
> > I have a desktop computer that is only 200mhz and has 96 megs of ram. I
> would
> > like to upgrade it to have 256 megs of ram but is that all for nothing if
> I
> > do not upgrade the cpu?
> >
> > Thanks for the help.
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Marcia
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
> >
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Re: [newbie] What does CTRL-ALT-F2 get you?

2002-02-15 Thread Mario Michael da Costa



> Burrows, Scott wrote:
> > My system starts up in GNOME.  I pressed  and it took
> > me to a command prompt out of GNOME.  This is OK and expected
> but..
> >
> > How do I get back to GNOME from there?
>
 
you can also do it with  till you get
your X windows back.


> > How is this different then simply clicking the "Open Terminal" icon in
> > GNOME?

well if you want a good and proper console, than that 
would be the way to go i guess. but it is much more convenient to open
an xterm from within x-windows. if you find the fonts to small play
around with the options a bit. i have finally settled on the foll
combinaion:
xterm -rv -fn 10x20 -geometry 100x37
the -rv option gives white text on a black background
-fn 10x20 gives me a comfortable font size
-geometry 100x37 gives me an almost full screen terminal.

you may need to change the -geometry numbers according to your screen
size. the above options work even with rxvt, which is another terminal
emulator but uses less ram.

Thank You,
Regards,
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Re: [newbie] unix to dos and dos to unix....

2002-02-15 Thread Mario Michael da Costa

Robin Turner wrote:
> 
> On Thursday 14 February 2002 05:17, Franki wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have many perl scripts in a directory that all contain windows
> > control characters..
> >
> > I would like to make a shell script or something that will go
> > through all the files in a directory, (and any sub directores)
> > grep every file for ^M characters and swap them for their unix
> > equivalent
> >
> > has anyone ever done this?
> >
> > PS, the only txt editor that allowed me to see the ^M's was vi,
> > pico and others did not show them.. why is that?
> 
> On Thursday 14 February 2002 05:17, Franki wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have many perl scripts in a directory that all contain windows
> > control characters..
> >
> > I would like to make a shell script or something that will go
> > through all the files in a directory, (and any sub directores)
> > grep every file for ^M characters and swap them for their unix
> > equivalent
> >
> > has anyone ever done this?
> >
> > PS, the only txt editor that allowed me to see the ^M's was vi,
> > pico and others did not show them.. why is that?
> 
> AFAIK KWrite doesn't show, but does give the opportunity to, say,
> search/replace regexps, and change the EOL character.  I'm still
> finding I have the same problem - I converted a ton of Word documents
> ages ago (with noword, IIRC) but some control characters just won't
> go, no matter what kind of substitutions I run on them; e.g.,
> 
> s/t+//g;
> 
> should get rid of tabs, but doesn't.

open the file in vi or vim, and when in command mode, use the foll
command:
:%s/^M//g

now the ^M is not <6>,  rather it is obtained by:
,

if you have some problem with this command, play around a bit, then
mail me, i'll give you a key by key sequence. but i doubt you'll need
it.

let me break down the command
% => for the entire file as scope
s => search and replace eg. s/old_data/new_data/
g => global i.e for all occurances of old_data

between the 2nd and 3rd foward-slash there is nothing, not even a
space. thus we are effectivly deleting that character by replacing it
with nothing.

just showing off :-P

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Re: [newbie] Program with ./configure

2002-02-15 Thread Mario Michael da Costa

Daniel Chen wrote:
> 
> Strange problem
> 
> I download the source code of PHP-4.1.1 and tried to compile it in my
> Mandrake Linux 8.1 This is my first time compiled a source code. I
> followed the instruction in INSTALL and execute ./configure. However, no
> matter how hard I tried, I could not run ./configure. I always got this
> error message:
> 
> bash: ./configure: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
> 
> Help me please, I am going to crazy!
> 
> Also, can anybody tell me what is "foo." I saw this word appeared quite
> often in Linux document but I don't understand what it mean.
> 
> Thank you for help!
> 
> Daniel
> 
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i cannot understand the "bad interpreter" part, but are you running
the command from the same directory where you have untarred the
sources ?

try doing a "ls | grep configure" to see if you have the configure
script in the directory. if it is present then do a "./configure
-help" or maybe "--help" if the "-help" option does not work. this may
list out a set of other options that you may need to supply to the
configure script.

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Re: [newbie] Set Backup

2002-02-15 Thread Robin Turner

On Friday 15 February 2002 11:31, Barran, Richard wrote:

>
> Speaking as a newbie... I thought scripts had to end with a ".sh"?
> Or is that just a convention?
It's just a convention, so you know it's a script.  If it's marked as 
an executable, the system will execute it whatever (though you need 
to have something like #!/bin/bash at the beginning).  Same principle 
applies to Perl scripts - a lot of people suffeix them with .pl, but 
it's not necessary (may help your text editor to recognise them, 
though, so you get the right highlighting).

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Re: [newbie] Netscape 6.2 Installation

2002-02-15 Thread rsch77

Hi Andre,
I am a newbie also : ), so I can't help you much with installing it
as an ordinary user. I installed Netscape 6.2 as root and I can run
it as a normal user. If that is your worry, don't worry anymore. You
could try installing it in another directory which you have
permission to write, but I've never done it, can't help again.
Good luck,

Rodrigo


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> Data: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 16:56:53 -0500
> Assunto : [newbie] Netscape 6.2 Installation
>
> Maybe I'm paranoid, but to "install" Netscape
using "NetscapeInstaller"
> involves downloading from the net. I've no problem with that, but I
do take
> issue that, in order for the install to succeed, the files must go
into
> /usr/local/netscape.
>
> Now, unless I'm mistaken /usr/local has root:root permissions. So,
in effect
> I have to download as root? Sounds like a Windows-come-and-get me
install??
>
> My gut feeling is that I must be mistaken, and/or I don't
understand the
> perrmission thing with /usr/local/ . . . Since no-one else has
complained
> about this, how can I download it as user? I get error messages
about
> "pipeline being broken" or such.
>
> How I love being a newbie -- just got back onto the list. Great to
be back!
>
> Tia,
> Andre
>
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Re: [newbie] Buss speed (and definitely OT!!)

2002-02-15 Thread Ashley Reynolds

On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Pen Gwynne wrote:

> For the record (and putting tongue firmly in cheek) something needs to be
> pointed out.
>
> Whilst a computer can have a "bus" speed, only warm flesh and blood can have
> a "buss" speed.  But then why would you want speed here unless the buss was
> just a stepping stone...

Well said. :)

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[newbie] Charset in Star/Open Office

2002-02-15 Thread Robin Turner

I'm sure this one must have been asked and answered before, but I 
can't find it in the archives 

How do you get Star / Open Office to use a different charset?  I need 
Latin5 (iso-8859-9) encoding and can't find anything there to set it 
(choosing language as Turkish has no effect either).  Is there some 
environment variable to set this or what?

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[newbie] Booting problems

2002-02-15 Thread Spyros Spyropoulos

Hi, 

I have the following problem. 

I recently got a second hard drive, to install my (Mandrake 8.0)linux. Prior to that I 
had linux installed on a partition of my first hard drive. 

However, once the intsallation was complete, Lilo could not be (re)intsalled for some 
reason. 

Now it is looking for the linux partition in the wrong place (on the partition in was 
intalled before) when I try to boot (I can boot windows as it is on the same partition 
it was before).

Foolish enough, I did not create a boot disk when I intsalled linux, and every try to 
create a boot disk via windows (you get this option when you intert the mandrake 
installation cd) that would enable me to boot and edit the lilo.conf file failed.
Booting via CD does not seem to help either. 

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Re: [newbie] Running slow.

2002-02-15 Thread Michael Scottaline

On 15 Feb 2002 15:02:00 +1100
Brian Parish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration:

>Are you running KDE?  If so, that's a lot of overhead for a 120.  A RAM
>upgrade would certainly pay off, but you may like to try a lighter
>desktop environment - Enlightenment is often mentioned as a good choice
>for lower overhead and you can still use the KDE apps apparently.
==
If speed and footprint are concerns, then Blackbox or Windowmaker might be
even better choices.  I believe Blackbox *might* be the lightest weight,
fastest of them all.  Xfce might also be worth trying.  Not quite as
snappy, but not as Spartan either.  BTW, as long as KDE and Gnome are
installed on the machine, you can still use virtually all of their apps
with any of these wm's.

Mike

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[newbie] change ownership & group

2002-02-15 Thread christiyono widya

hi,

I just upgrade my linux to Mandrake 8.1 from 8.0, but now I can't change the 
ownership or group in windows partition (/mnt/win_c and /mnt/win_d) the 
system said that action not permitted (not enough permission, when I try to 
change in properties) even I login as root. I try by using console and GUI 
but the result is same. Is it any special thing to do that I miss?

thank u 4 u help..

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[newbie] Multi-boot System Problem

2002-02-15 Thread Tonton

Currently, there are two operating system installed in my computer, the Windows 98 and 
Linux Mandrake 8.0, every time I open my computer, it will automatically go to the 
Linux mandrake options whether to go automatically to Linux or I have to select what 
operating system should I used.  I have no problem if I go to Windows, then restart my 
machine to go in Linux, but when I restart my machine using Linux, to go back to 
Windows, it will not load my Windows instead off it will hang or sometime I should 
start my Windows in safe mode.  What should I do to fix this booting problem?

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RE: [newbie] Set Backup

2002-02-15 Thread Barran, Richard

> >I have a backup that I want to run daily, that goes 
> something like this
> >
> >$ tar cvzf /mnt/win_d/docs/e-mail/evolution/evol.tar.gz
> >/home/chuck/evolution
> >
> >
> >I would like to save this in a file that I can run as a 
> command, like a
> >BAT file in DOS. I assume then, that I would save this 
> script in a text
> >file. Then, what else should I do, in terms of naming, or other
> >preparation, to have it available as a command?
> 
> You can name the file anything you want. Linux supported long 
> names long
> before Windows/Dos did. Then you can run 
> 
> chmod +x 
> 
> to make it executable (set the execute attribute). After that 
> you can run it
> as./
> 
> ./ means "in this directory"
> 
> Paul
> 

Speaking as a newbie... I thought scripts had to end with a ".sh"? Or is
that just a convention?
Also, when I want to run a script I've written myself, I just change to the
directory the script is kept in, and type the script name. I don't prefix it
with a "./"
Am I missing something here?

Thanks,

Richard

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[newbie] Mandrake and ISA cards

2002-02-15 Thread Renato Tognaccini

Hi,
I want to report some problems of Mandrake 8.x which were not present with 
Mandrake 7.x, it is just an info for Mandrake developers.

I installed MDK 7.x on two machines with ISA cards and it was a success: all 
hardware detected automatically and I got all my hardware working 
automatically.

On the contrary, when updating to MDK 8.x, on one machine the ethernet 
3com509 card was not detected and I moved back to MDK 7.x.

On the other machine MDK 8.x detected the soundcard (classic soundblaster) 
but I was not able to get it working, detected my LS120 zip drive, but it did 
not mounted it because, having also a scsi controller, the system created an 
/etc/fstab very confused, my floppy 3.5" mounted on /mnt/floppy2 and hdb (my 
ls120) mounted on /mnt/floppy, but it does not work.

On my PCI machine at home MDK 8.x installed succesfully.

I saw the soundcard problem common to many people in newbie community but it 
seems not solved.

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[newbie] command for checking security level?

2002-02-15 Thread db

Does anyone know it?


> db wrote:
> >
> > I am new to Mandrake and Linux.  During the install  I setup the "tiny
> > firewall" and changed the Security level to Medium.  Upon revisting the
> > security section (thru the KDE interface) twice since, it tells me that
the
> > firewall is in place but each time following a reboot the security level
> > seems to return to "Welcome to Crackers".  Can anyone explain this and
tell
> > me if I am doing anything wrong?
>
> There's nothing wrong, db ! - Just a "glitch" in the dialog-box. In fact
> you ARE in medium level. You can check it : open a file-manager (i.e.
> Konqueror in KDE of Nautilus in Gnome) and try to read someting in a
> directory not belonging to you, for example : /root or another users
> files. Impossible ! - There's a command-line option to check the levels
> as well, but I don't remember it, sorry. Anyway : it's allright.
>
> Regards
>
> Kaj haulrich
>
>






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Re: [newbie] Running slow.

2002-02-15 Thread Tonton

Have you create a swap partition for Linux? if not, create it now.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
>Greetings:
>
>I recently installed Mandrake 8.1 on my son's machine which consists of a 
>120Mhz processor and 84meg of ram. It now operates deadly slow. My 
>understanding has been that one advantage of linux is that it runs fine on 
>older equipment ; that it doesn't require the horsepower, so to speak, that 
>other OS's like windows does.
>
>Prior to installing Linux on my son's machine he was running windows 95. That 
>moved right along. He likes linux but it is dreadfully slow.
>
>I am running a celeron @ 700Mhz with 512 Meg of ram. The speed is much better 
>but still slower than windows ME, which I migrated from.
>
>Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining. Since I began this journey, I can't 
>seem to get away from my computer. Though the learning is slow, I am learning 
>and enjoying experimenting. On the other hand I have 3 boys in school, 3 
>machines networked together, and I need a stable system with reasonable speed.
>
>Any comments would be helpful. Tnx
>
>Jeff - K1LE - SECT

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