date:20030301

On Saturday 15 February 2003 02:05 pm, Andrew Scotchmer wrote:
 Now don't get me wrong I love linux and  have been with Mandrake since v6.0
 though I must say in my opinion v9.0 is not one of it's best, perhaps,
 sorry, definately a bit hasty with this release!

 Anyway the point is I've just upgraded my windows98 to XP and I must admit
 in all fairness for the desktop, I know nothing of computers, average
 user,  XP is better.

 Now before I get flamed let me explain. I run a small 500mhz Athlon with
 64mg memory but for speed and effeiciency XP is by far the fastest.
 My Md9 is a minimal installation (although having most of the HD) but still
 pales in comparison to XP even when a large number of apps are working.
 With XP I boot and hey-presto I'm logging in with Md9 I can make a brew etc
 etc. (well not literally but you get the point)

 I beleive that as far as the end user is concerned speed is the most
 important factor.  Not how much software is free or that linux is more
 stable and reliable.  The average user wants speed.  You click on an icon
 and up pops the application IMMEDIATELY!!!  With XP even my little 500
 acheives this performance but alas (and I mean that with a heavy heart) Md9
 is a slow monolith beleiving that placing god knows how many apps into
 their installation cd's will convert new customers.


 Just my thought

 Andrew
OK, now install Office 2000 or Office XP whatever. Is it still really fast on 
boot up? Curious to know cause my wifes comp with 98 and office 98 on it and 
256mb ram and a 900 Duron is slow as mollasses on boot up. It looks like it 
is the other stuff that causes the delay not the basic OS. Not a flame just 
pointing out that no matter what you can not compare apples and oranges. I 
was a newbie and computer illiterate once too, and just got tired of the MS 
crap. You will be too if you decide to put a faster burner and a faster cpu 
and then add a few MB of ram to your computer, and then reboot and see if XP 
wants to play.  Bet it won't and I bet you have to call the MS hotline and 
get special permission from your Mommy Mrs Gates to reboot the XP. Yeah that
s a real great system.  Sorry, there is no comparison.
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Re: [newbie] OT- Mandrake OT list

2003-03-01 Thread g



Anne Wilson wrote:

 Only on strictest terms

works for me.

always best to clear any misunderstandings on front end.

peace out.

tc,hago.

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Re: [newbie] worried

2003-03-01 Thread Jose

Andrew Scotchmer wrote:
Now don't get me wrong I love linux and  have been with Mandrake since v6.0
though I must say in my opinion v9.0 is not one of it's best, perhaps,
sorry, definately a bit hasty with this release!
Agreed, I actually liked 8.2 better.

Anyway the point is I've just upgraded my windows98 to XP and I must admit
in all fairness for the desktop, I know nothing of computers, average
user,  XP is better.
I run both and Win2k as well. Win2K is the best Windows, IMHO.

Now before I get flamed let me explain. I run a small 500mhz Athlon with
64mg memory but for speed and effeiciency XP is by far the fastest.
My Md9 is a minimal installation (although having most of the HD) but still
pales in comparison to XP even when a large number of apps are working.
With XP I boot and hey-presto I'm logging in with Md9 I can make a brew etc
etc. (well not literally but you get the point)
WinXP boots up fast, but it is not ready. Things are still happening in 
the background. When MDK 9 boots, it is fully operational and ready to go.

I have run WinXP on anything from a 266 to a P4, it is always dog slow 
with 64B of ram. Give it 256mb and it screams! Tho, Win2K screams and 
does break as much as WinXP.

I beleive that as far as the end user is concerned speed is the most
important factor.  Not how much software is free or that linux is more
stable and reliable.  The average user wants speed.  You click on an icon
and up pops the application IMMEDIATELY!!!  With XP even my little 500
acheives this performance but alas (and I mean that with a heavy heart) Md9
is a slow monolith beleiving that placing god knows how many apps into their
installation cd's will convert new customers.
I don't believe the average user wants speed, otherwise they would be 
flocking to Gentoo or Slack. WinXP is excellent for its target audience. 
It looks easy and familiar. MS did a great job with the UI. Personally, 
I hate it, but let the typically PC user that uses a dull PC at work 
boot to a colorful screen with big bright menus, and they lose their 
fear of a PC.

MD9 can be a speed demon if you pick the right apps and the right Window 
 Manager. Plus, you don't have to worry about Uncle Bob spying on you 
and filling your hard drive with viruses. You can make your MD 9 
installation take up a lot of space on your drive or very little.

Now don't get me wrong, I am not flaming you. I firmly believe in 
different strokes for different folks. You pick whatever suits your 
taste buds the best.

For me it's Linux. I still have a box with Win 2K for my job, but 
everything else, Linux rules in my house.

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Re: [newbie] worried

2003-03-01 Thread Damian Gatabria

On Saturday 15 de February 2003 17:05, Andrew Scotchmer wrote:


 Anyway the point is I've just upgraded my windows98 to XP and I must admit
 in all fairness for the desktop, I know nothing of computers, average
 user,  XP is better.

It depends on what you use it for, and how.  Please read my post on
the thread [newbie] Mandrake so slow in a pentium 200.

Damian

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Re: [newbie] /net and /misc

2003-03-01 Thread Paul Kaplan

On Friday 28 February 2003 15:25, et wrote:
 On Friday 28 February 2003 10:09 am, Dennis Myers wrote:
  On Friday 28 February 2003 01:45 am, Paul Kaplan wrote:
   Anyone know what /net and /misc are?  They automount under m9, are
   always busy and can't be unmounted.  As a result I can't do a clean
   shutdown. How can I remidy?
   TIA
   Paul
 
  Paul, can you cd to these directories and do a ls in console mode?
  Might show what is in them, cause my system does not have either
  directory.

 if I remember correctly (that might be a first) these are mount points
 created by some wild program (like linneighborhood or gnomba for the /net)
 and have a hard mount point in the script that creates them, maybe
 posting fstab and mtab might help.

Dennis,
ls /misc and ls /net return nothing

et,
From /etc/mtab:
automount(pid1561) /misc autofs rw,fd=5,pgrp=1561,minproto=2,maxproto=4 0 0
automount(pid1574) /net autofs rw,fd=5,pgrp=1574,minproto=2,maxproto=4 0 0

I use linneigborhood to work to access a LAN

Derek,
What configuration file am I looking for w/ autofs?

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Re: [newbie] worried

2003-03-01 Thread Roland Hughes

My only comment is if I am burning (x12), running seti and browsing the
web on a 2.4GHZ P4, 512 meg Ram,running XP Professional the bloody thing
becomes unusable. If I do the same on my 800MHZ, 512 meg ram duron
running MD9.0 I barely notice anything.
Roly
 
On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 12:05, Andrew Scotchmer wrote:
 Now don't get me wrong I love linux and  have been with Mandrake since v6.0
 though I must say in my opinion v9.0 is not one of it's best, perhaps,
 sorry, definately a bit hasty with this release!
 
 Anyway the point is I've just upgraded my windows98 to XP and I must admit
 in all fairness for the desktop, I know nothing of computers, average
 user,  XP is better.
 
 Now before I get flamed let me explain. I run a small 500mhz Athlon with
 64mg memory but for speed and effeiciency XP is by far the fastest.
 My Md9 is a minimal installation (although having most of the HD) but still
 pales in comparison to XP even when a large number of apps are working.
 With XP I boot and hey-presto I'm logging in with Md9 I can make a brew etc
 etc. (well not literally but you get the point)
 
 I beleive that as far as the end user is concerned speed is the most
 important factor.  Not how much software is free or that linux is more
 stable and reliable.  The average user wants speed.  You click on an icon
 and up pops the application IMMEDIATELY!!!  With XP even my little 500
 acheives this performance but alas (and I mean that with a heavy heart) Md9
 is a slow monolith beleiving that placing god knows how many apps into their
 installation cd's will convert new customers.
 
 
 Just my thought
 
 Andrew
 
 
 
 

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Re: [newbie] Redirecting in KMail

2003-03-01 Thread Larry Williams

On Friday 28 February 2003 08:20, Robert Golovnyov wrote:

 Does the KMail support redirecting messages or can I only forward them?

Yes.  You can redirect or bounce both via a menu item or automatically via 
filters.


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[newbie] sb live x gamer - how to turn on mic?

2003-03-01 Thread mycal62

Hi,

I have a sound blaster Xgamer sound card. I wan to use the mic in linux, 
but it is turned off.

anyone know how to turn it on?

Mandrake 9.0 kde 3.1  emu10k1 driver

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[newbie] Business Week Linux articles

2003-03-01 Thread Angus Auld

Here's a couple articles of special interest I came across:

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/03_09/b3822601_tc102.htm
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/03_09/b3822610_tc102.htm

Can you pronounce Linuxs for me Steve? LOL

Check out the whole lot here:
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/toc/03_09/B382203linux.htm

Regards.   

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Re: [newbie] Hams on the list

2003-03-01 Thread Marc Oestreicher

On Friday 28 February 2003 13:44, Kirwin the Insane wrote:
 Bill Spatz wrote:
 Almost enough of us to start a Mandrake-Hams list
 
 Give me a few minutes, I like this idea!
 
 Bill N7OKD

 Add another.

 Later
 Michael
 kb0yev


   How odd there dont seem to be all that many people on this list , I have 
not kept a accurate count but I would guess that 10-15 hams have appeared 
here and I would guess that well under 1% of the general population are hams. 
All this gives us a rather high ham to non ham ratio. I wonder if hams are 
drawn to linux or if linux users are drawn to ham radio. I would bet we have 
a lot of SWLs here also
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[newbie] saving AOL addresses and Posts to linux

Has anyone figured out how to save the address book and saved email in an AOL 
account to Mandrake? My wife uses AOL and I would love to get her away from 
it and Windows, but this is a stumbling block. Any suggestions are 
appreciated.  TIA
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[newbie] Unofficial February stats

2003-03-01 Thread Todd Slater

Monthly stats for Mandrake-newbie

Total posts processed:3027

Most active threads

 86  Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and burned
 47  Xwindows Stability
 43  Lovin' KDE 3.1
 38  OT?, help convince my b/f running as root is bad!
 34  Update the kernel ?
 34  Another one...
 34 
 33  This fellow needs help. His mails are being rejected.
 33  NFS after MDK9 reinstall/update
 33  Fun discussion question for the list

Most active posters

200  Robert Wideman 
158  Anne Wilson 
135  et 
123  Greg Meyer 
104  Stephen Kuhn 
100  FemmeFatale 
 78  Derek Jennings 
 77  civileme 
 77  Tom Brinkman 
 72  Ronald J. Hall 


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Re: [newbie] worried

On Friday 28 February 2003 07:24 pm, Guy Rouillier wrote:
  I believe that as far as the end user is concerned speed is the most
  important factor.

 Only to geeks.  For the other 99.9 percent of computer users,
 functionality is most important - can I do what I want with minimum
 hassle?  The biggest impediment to desktop adoption of Linux is not
 Windows but Microsoft Office.
and as much as functionality is high on the list of priorities so to is 
stability, and if you consider the amount of time and money spent in a for 
profit environment with rebooting and defraging (etc) type maintenance, sure 
makes an argument that speed can be measured in both quarter mile and top 
end quantities and if you can't complete the whole 500 mile race, what good 
is it?

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sorry no traffic in a while

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Re: [newbie] worried

2003-03-01 Thread Anders Lind


 Now before I get flamed let me explain. I run a small 500mhz Athlon with
 64mg memory but for speed and effeiciency XP is by far the fastest.
 My Md9 is a minimal installation (although having most of the HD) but
still
 pales in comparison to XP even when a large number of apps are working.
 With XP I boot and hey-presto I'm logging in with Md9 I can make a brew
etc
 etc. (well not literally but you get the point)


Now this is rather interesting, XP should not even run with 64MB if I am
correctly
informed, there you go.anyway, personally I ran Mdk 9.0 on a PII 233 Mhz
although
with 160 MB of RAM without any problems whatsoever, of course I did not use
KDE
as my desktop but XFce but still.

I am not saying you are wrong, just that I am very surprised that you could
even get XP
to run on that configuration.

/Anders


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Re: [newbie] msn messenger voice through mandrake gateway?

2003-03-01 Thread Bart Salien

Op Friday 28 February 2003 11:27, schreef mycal62:

There is a program called gnomemeeting in LM9.0 and it can connect to 
netmeeting . The only problem i'm having is the quality of the microphone 
sound in gnomemeeting is verry poor . Try it out .

greets.
Bart.

 is it possible to run msn messenger through a mandrake box ( gateway ) ??

 Or can I use a voice messenger client in linux to connect to my son who
 lives in the Netherlands?
 I have a cable internet connection , and the linux box is the main and
 gateway for my local lan.

 phone calls are far too expensive.

 any suggestions?


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Re: Re[2]: [newbie] Redirecting in KMail

On Friday 28 February 2003 01:53 pm, Robert Golovniov wrote:
 On Friday, February 28, 2003, 7:27:35 PM, et wrote:
  Does the KMail support redirecting messages or can I only forward them?

 e in the main (KDE Mail Client window) setting, configure filters,

 As far as I understand, it will allow me to automatically redirect the
 incoming messages. And what if I received a message, which I want now
 to redirect? I do not want to forward it (with This is a forwarded
 message, bla-bla-bla stuff), but just to send it to another address
 while preserving the original sender's From info and so on?

 Under Windows, The Bat! allows you both to forward messages and to
 redirect (alternative forward) them. Is there a similar option in
 KMail?
ehhh...apply filters

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[newbie] DIRECT CONNECT active mode and SHOREWALL

2003-03-01 Thread Bela Markus

 Hi,

I spent nights without any success to configure SHOREWALL in 9.0 to run 
Direct Connect (DC++ exactly) to run in active mode.

Is there a solution out there?

Regards... Bela, HA5DI








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Re[4]: [newbie] Disk problem

2003-03-01 Thread Robert Golovniov

On Friday, February 28, 2003, 2:16:50 PM, Robert Golovniov wrote:

RG Tried to put it as the second harddrive on another machine running
RG Mandrake 9.1b3. Did not work either.

Seems to be solved... Everything was quite simple: Parity_Boot virus
messed everything up. Had to wipe the whole disk... :-(

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Re: [newbie] worried

2003-03-01 Thread John Richard Smith

Dennis Myers wrote:

On Saturday 15 February 2003 02:05 pm, Andrew Scotchmer wrote:
 

Now don't get me wrong I love linux and  have been with Mandrake since v6.0
though I must say in my opinion v9.0 is not one of it's best, perhaps,
sorry, definately a bit hasty with this release!
Anyway the point is I've just upgraded my windows98 to XP and I must admit
in all fairness for the desktop, I know nothing of computers, average
user,  XP is better.
Now before I get flamed let me explain. I run a small 500mhz Athlon with
64mg memory but for speed and effeiciency XP is by far the fastest.
My Md9 is a minimal installation (although having most of the HD) but still
pales in comparison to XP even when a large number of apps are working.
With XP I boot and hey-presto I'm logging in with Md9 I can make a brew etc
etc. (well not literally but you get the point)
I beleive that as far as the end user is concerned speed is the most
important factor.  Not how much software is free or that linux is more
stable and reliable.  The average user wants speed.  You click on an icon
and up pops the application IMMEDIATELY!!!  With XP even my little 500
acheives this performance but alas (and I mean that with a heavy heart) Md9
is a slow monolith beleiving that placing god knows how many apps into
their installation cd's will convert new customers.
Just my thought

Andrew
   

OK, now install Office 2000 or Office XP whatever. Is it still really fast on 
boot up? Curious to know cause my wifes comp with 98 and office 98 on it and 
256mb ram and a 900 Duron is slow as mollasses on boot up. It looks like it 
is the other stuff that causes the delay not the basic OS. Not a flame just 
pointing out that no matter what you can not compare apples and oranges. I 
was a newbie and computer illiterate once too, and just got tired of the MS 
crap. You will be too if you decide to put a faster burner and a faster cpu 
and then add a few MB of ram to your computer, and then reboot and see if XP 
wants to play.  Bet it won't and I bet you have to call the MS hotline and 
get special permission from your Mommy Mrs Gates to reboot the XP. Yeah that
s a real great system.  Sorry, there is no comparison.
 

 

My W2K OS's take twice as long as M9.0 to boot, but are just as
stable. No significant differences otherwise. I've always disliked
Outlook Express.
John

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[newbie] Samba question

2003-03-01 Thread Technoslick

My question deals with a current setup of two MDK 9.0 clients and one MDK 9.0 
server running DHCP and Samba with winbind. The network is a mixture of 
Windows clients (presently Win 98 SE and Win 2K) and MDK 9 clients, all DHCP 
clients. The server is setup to be Master as well as Local Browser and 
provides WINS support to the Win clients. I have had some permissions 
problems in getting clients to be able to have write access to public and 
secured shares, but I have finalled got that resolved (I think!)

In one of the two MDK clients, my certification file for 'public' contains the 
variable % for username and this works fine with my own password. The other 
box is virtually identical in setup (hosts, resolv.conf, hosts-allow, 
hosts-deny, etc.) and refuses to connect and mount 'public' without my actual 
username present. Network info was updated through 'netconf' on both and 
appear identical. All mounts were created using MCC | Mount Points | Samba 
mount points.

I did try to using the % for password as well, but obviously this is not a 
generic variable. I cannot find any reference to the variable used for 
'password' that would pass on the correct value for whomever happens to be 
logged in when the shares are accessed. Is there one? Can anyone explain why 
one MDK box cannot utilize the % variable while the other can?

TIA

T

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Re: [newbie] hellooooooooooooooo?

On Saturday 01 March 2003 07:59 am, Damian Gatabria wrote:
 anybody in there? Hellooo!!

 ***blinks flashlight into the dark***



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Re: [newbie] DIRECT CONNECT active mode and SHOREWALL

2003-03-01 Thread Harv Nelson

I also tried to set up connection sharing for ADSL and the shorewall on this 
machine (MDK9.0).  Pissed Off is just a mild description for my feelings of 
frustration.  My solution was to purchase a D-Link DI-604.  

http://www.dlink.com/products/broadband/di604/

The thing contains an embedded firewall/router accessible with any browser and 
4 Ethernet ports.  Cost $(us) 45, UPS delivered.  What is your time and 
sanity worth?  Plus, you'll be able to build a decent server with the machine 
you were going to use for a router/firewall ... or better use the machine to 
run HF PSK/Amtor, etc

Harv
KG9GA
Washburn, WI

On Saturday 01 March 2003 01:11 am, Bela Markus wrote:
   Hi,

 I spent nights without any success to configure SHOREWALL in 9.0 to run
 Direct Connect (DC++ exactly) to run in active mode.

 Is there a solution out there?

 Regards... Bela, HA5DI


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Re: [newbie] Redirecting in KMail

2003-03-01 Thread Anders Lind

Hello, group!

Does the KMail support redirecting messages or can I only forward them?

---

I am not sure regarding KMail, but I do know for sure that Sylpheed has a 
redirect function.

/Anders

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Re: [newbie] worried

On Friday 28 February 2003 05:30 pm, Anders Lind wrote:
  Now before I get flamed let me explain. I run a small 500mhz Athlon with
  64mg memory but for speed and effeiciency XP is by far the fastest.
  My Md9 is a minimal installation (although having most of the HD) but

 still

  pales in comparison to XP even when a large number of apps are working.
  With XP I boot and hey-presto I'm logging in with Md9 I can make a brew

 etc

  etc. (well not literally but you get the point)

 Now this is rather interesting, XP should not even run with 64MB if I am
 correctly
 informed, there you go.anyway, personally I ran Mdk 9.0 on a PII 233
 Mhz although
 with 160 MB of RAM without any problems whatsoever, of course I did not use
 KDE
 as my desktop but XFce but still.

 I am not saying you are wrong, just that I am very surprised that you could
 even get XP
 to run on that configuration.

 /Anders
or install anyway,,, 
no more feeding the trolls, says the wife,,, little does she know she married 
an alpha troll.

et

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Re: [newbie] Unofficial February stats

On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 3:34 pm, Todd Slater wrote:
 Most active posters

 200Robert Wideman
 158Anne Wilson

Shucks - I'm still talking too much.  I thought I'd been quieter lately.

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Re: [newbie] DIRECT CONNECT active mode and SHOREWALL

2003-03-01 Thread Markus Bela





 Hi Harv,

I am running MDK 9.0 on a 450MHz AMD K6-II processor at home, with 3 NICs.
One is connected to the ADSL line, others are configured as a LAN bridge
and connected to W2K/XP machines. This system was up and running in an hour
including samba and printer sharing and works great without any problem.
Now this server works as a mail server for the family, an SMS gateway and
a host for ALEX, an authomatic 144MHz sporadic propagation alert system.

I'm sure SHOREWALL/MDK can be configured, what I am missing is the relevant
information on DC.

I tried SuSE and REDHAT, spent sleepless nights with a crapy system. 

A hw ADSL is router is great, but not an option for me.

Best regards, 73... Bela, HA5DI


 Original Message 

  

  Subject: 
  Re: [newbie] DIRECT CONNECT active mode and SHOREWALL


  Date: 
  Sat, 1 Mar 2003 10:33:40 -0600


  From: 
  Harv Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]


  To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bela Markus [EMAIL PROTECTED]


  References: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  

 

I also tried to set up connection sharing for ADSL and the shorewall on this 
machine (MDK9.0).  "Pissed Off" is just a mild description for my feelings of 
frustration.  My solution was to purchase a D-Link DI-604.  

http://www.dlink.com/products/broadband/di604/

The thing contains an embedded firewall/router accessible with any browser and 
4 Ethernet ports.  Cost $(us) 45, UPS delivered.  What is your time and 
sanity worth?  Plus, you'll be able to build a decent server with the machine 
you were going to use for a router/firewall ... or better use the machine to 
run HF PSK/Amtor, etc

Harv
KG9GA
Washburn, WI

On Saturday 01 March 2003 01:11 am, Bela Markus wrote:
   Hi,

 I spent nights without any success to configure SHOREWALL in 9.0 to run
 Direct Connect (DC++ exactly) to run in active mode.

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Re: [newbie] worried

2003-03-01 Thread Mudder

Funny thing,

On my 500 MHz AMD K-6 and 64 meg of memory I could barely get XP Pro to run!
And adding another 64meg of ram did little to improve things.
Windows 98SE and Windows 2000 ran o.k. but nothing to cheer about. They both
showed a marked increase in performance when I doubled ram, however ,  MDK 8
ran fine on 64 megs and showed about a 4 fold increase in performance when 
I doubled the ram.
(I was not able to test MDK 9 as I have sold the machine)
And to make everything even, I reformatted and started fresh when 
installing the extra ram.
(I thimks I have way too much time on my hands)

Just goes to show that almost every computer is an entity unto itself.
What works for me may not work for you and vice versa.
or could we just have a different definition of what acceptable performance 
is?

Mudder

At 11:08 AM 3/1/2003 -0500, you wrote:
On Friday 28 February 2003 05:30 pm, Anders Lind wrote:
  Now before I get flamed let me explain. I run a small 500mhz Athlon with
  64mg memory but for speed and effeiciency XP is by far the fastest.
  My Md9 is a minimal installation (although having most of the HD) but

 still

  pales in comparison to XP even when a large number of apps are working.
  With XP I boot and hey-presto I'm logging in with Md9 I can make a brew

 etc

  etc. (well not literally but you get the point)

 Now this is rather interesting, XP should not even run with 64MB if I am
 correctly
 informed, there you go.anyway, personally I ran Mdk 9.0 on a PII 233
 Mhz although
 with 160 MB of RAM without any problems whatsoever, of course I did not use
 KDE
 as my desktop but XFce but still.

 I am not saying you are wrong, just that I am very surprised that you could
 even get XP
 to run on that configuration.

 /Anders
or install anyway,,,
no more feeding the trolls, says the wife,,, little does she know she married
an alpha troll.
et

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RE: [newbie] Hams on the list

2003-03-01 Thread Marlo Montanaro

Add another...

I would say hams are drawn to Linux- it is a natural progression of the
experimenter in us...  Those of us who like to experiment with electronics
(but don't have the time... :-) ) appreciate the modular nature of Unix,
Linux, and NetWare and the ability to tinker with the OS.

73!
Marlo
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Hams on the list


On Friday 28 February 2003 13:44, Kirwin the Insane wrote:
 Bill Spatz wrote:
 Almost enough of us to start a Mandrake-Hams list
 
 Give me a few minutes, I like this idea!
 
 Bill N7OKD

 Add another.

 Later
 Michael
 kb0yev


   How odd there dont seem to be all that many people on this list , I have
not kept a accurate count but I would guess that 10-15 hams have appeared
here and I would guess that well under 1% of the general population are
hams.
All this gives us a rather high ham to non ham ratio. I wonder if hams are
drawn to linux or if linux users are drawn to ham radio. I would bet we have
a lot of SWLs here also
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Re: [newbie] Backup to CD-R/RW

2003-03-01 Thread Terry Smith

FWIW, gentoo is an complete linux distribution that is entirely roll
your own. It manages software via a ports system called the portage
tree. Everything is downloaded in source form and must be compiled for
your machine.

As a result you have a very fast, clean system running only what you've
specifically installed.  It works well and I've been using it for 6
months. Version 1.4 is about to be released.

BTW, there are several stages possible - stage 1 provides only a core
(this is actually the iso image you've been speaking about) - you have
to build a system from scratch; stage 2 has some additional parts and
stage 3 is a minimal system. Of course, each successively numbered stage
representa a larger download and less customization.

For example, in the versions to date, you *must* download kernel source
and compile your own kernel.

Gentoo says that the final 1.4 release will change the basic
installation philosophy and perhaps provide for a binary system that is
functional out of the box. I don't know the details.

There's no free lunch of course! There are least two drawbacks for such
an approach. First installing major software systems takes a long time.
The installation of KDE 3.1 from source, for example, takes about 4
hours on my Athlon XP 1700.

The other disadvantage stems from my 'newbieness'you have to learn
about packages on your own...since you have to select everything
yourself you need to know the names (and maybe the class) of software
packages to even find them in the portage tree. There are generic
directories for say window-managers but it helps to know a bit about a
program before you grab it.

For me, gentoo is test system...they always have the latest version of
pgms and if you want to move to a real gory bleeding edge kind of
install you can override their 'masks' (which block software pkgs in
devleopment or not fully tested) and really have fun!

It is however, very fast, and everything I've installed works
beautifully.

Terry Smith

On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 16:16, John Richard Smith wrote:
 Anne Wilson wrote:
 
 On Friday 28 Feb 2003 5:58 pm, you wrote:
   
 
 Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Thursday 27 Feb 2003 6:05 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
  OK , I attatch the file for everone
  
  John
  
  John, I'm really confused by this.  First, I don't understand where
 
 Gentoo
 
  comes into the equation?  You give the Gentoo url, then say download
 
 the iso
 
  from the partimage website.
  
  On the partimage website I could not see what you were recommending to
  download.
  
  There is an rpm for partimage on the distro, so what made you choose to
  download another?
  
  Having installed the rpm from Mandrake, I could quite happily use it
 
 as it
 
  stands, *except* that I can't see how the bootable image disk is made,
 
 and
 
  without it I can't see a restore being possible.
  
  I'm used to DriveImage, so I understand the process - I just can't see
 
 how it
 
  fits together with PartImage.
  
  Anne
 
 http://www.partimage.org/download.php3
 http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/releases/1.4_rc2/x86/
 x86/livecd/gentoo-basic-x86-1.4_rc2.iso
 
 This download site is always busy, so chuck it into d4x and get
 it ti do a mirror search and choose one of them. I found several
 only just at the moment d4x seems unable to find any
 
 John
 
 
 
 I suppose you haven't yet seen a gento -basic-X86-1.4-rc2 boot disc.
 It's basically a 38 MB programme that creates for you a kernel
 for the purpose of loading into memory along with other programmes
 like partimage. You run the disc to the prompt and run the programme
 you want in our case partimage which is on the disc as well as other
 programmes, like fdisk or cfdisk.
 Like Partition Magic uses a boot floppy and a programme floppy,
 Gentoo uses a Boot CD with  partimage on it .
 
 
 
 I see - so this is a cut-down Gentoo to provide the platform + partimage.  
 It's downloading now, so we'll see how I go.
 
 Anne
   
 
 That's substancially right, it can also be used to install gentoo's OS . 
 I don't know
 anything about that aspect, never having seen or heard of it before, but 
 the gentoo boot
 disc which this is creates a kernel for your computer and you then go on 
 to download
 the OS directory off the net, whether that download is a download of a 
 whole bunch of
 rpm's which then have to be manually installed or whether you are in 
 fact downloading
 and installing the binaries I don't know. Anyway we are interested in 
 this Gentoo basic
 boot version for the purpose of creating a working kernel and installing 
 partimage
 for backup purposes. Once the kernel is configured, it's quite quick, 
 the kernel and partimage
 are loaded into memory, like all the best image backup programmes. That 
 leaves you free
 to do anything to anything partition wise, with the added advantage for 
 those who require
 it you can configure an internet connection and install image files over 
 the net.
 
 John
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Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Civilme is POPULAR! Yeesh! (grin)

2003-03-01 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

On 01 Mar 2003 21:08:09 +1100, Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Whilst doing my dirty work, er, perusing the technology pages, I just
 ran across some ditties that good'ole Civilme spat forth around about a
 month ago...was great seeing them included in an online article...good
 on ya mate!
 
 http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=4547

Hehe... I wrote that article, BTW :)

I was preparing to write something about GNU/Linux and viruses when I came
across Civileme's post. He basically echoed what I wanted to write, and he
worded it much better than I could have done. I figured it'd be better to
directly quote a respected member of the community rather than write my own
half-arsed (by comparison) response.

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no division between military and civilian participation.
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Re: [newbie] /net and /misc

On Friday 28 February 2003 04:17 pm, Paul Kaplan wrote:
 On Friday 28 February 2003 15:25, et wrote:
  On Friday 28 February 2003 10:09 am, Dennis Myers wrote:
   On Friday 28 February 2003 01:45 am, Paul Kaplan wrote:
Anyone know what /net and /misc are?  They automount under m9, are
always busy and can't be unmounted.  As a result I can't do a clean
shutdown. How can I remidy?
TIA
Paul
  
   Paul, can you cd to these directories and do a ls in console mode?
   Might show what is in them, cause my system does not have either
   directory.
 
  if I remember correctly (that might be a first) these are mount points
  created by some wild program (like linneighborhood or gnomba for the
  /net) and have a hard mount point in the script that creates them,
  maybe posting fstab and mtab might help.

 Dennis,
 ls /misc and ls /net return nothing

 et,
 From /etc/mtab:
 automount(pid1561) /misc autofs rw,fd=5,pgrp=1561,minproto=2,maxproto=4 0 0
 automount(pid1574) /net autofs rw,fd=5,pgrp=1574,minproto=2,maxproto=4 0 0

 I use linneigborhood to work to access a LAN

nothing in fstab? re /net, /misc???
 Derek,
 What configuration file am I looking for w/ autofs?


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Re: [newbie] kde rewrites .desktop files

2003-03-01 Thread Damian Gatabria


 i am always loggin as root when running rpmdrake-remove (the only
 way..). the owner was the user (me) and the permission were r-- r-- ---.

OK, change the owner:group of the files to root:root
and set permissions to 775 ..

( chown root:root files;
 chmod +775 files)



 have to make a script that will change the contents of .kde everytime
 kde is started?
 
 Better yet, it would be nice to find the script that does this in the
 first place, and kill the bastard.
 
 Things like these are the ones people refer to when they say
 KDE is unpredictable.
 
 
 Damian
 
  Of course if you have security set above standard it could be msec that
  is changing the file back.  Where do you have security set?  HTH

 sorry, i cannot remember.. where can i find out?

... mmm... dunno.. maybe mandrake control center - security can give you
a hint. If you use your PC as a workstation, then regular (medium) security
is OK and recommended.

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Re: [newbie] Unofficial February stats

2003-03-01 Thread Benjamin Pflugmann

On Sat 2003-03-01 at 16:40:07 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 3:34 pm, Todd Slater wrote:
  Most active posters
 
  200  Robert Wideman
  158  Anne Wilson
 
 Shucks - I'm still talking too much.  I thought I'd been quieter lately.

You just did it again. *lol*


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Re: [newbie] Backup to CD-R/RW

2003-03-01 Thread John Richard Smith

Terry Smith wrote:

FWIW, gentoo is an complete linux distribution that is entirely roll
your own. 

So it's the ultimate custom made OS to your equipement.

It manages software via a ports system called the portage
tree. 

I don't understand this concept.

Everything is downloaded in source form and must be compiled for
your machine.
So your downloading binaries and compiling everything.

As a result you have a very fast, clean system running only what you've
specifically installed.  It works well and I've been using it for 6
months. Version 1.4 is about to be released.
Did you find it a nightmare at first ?

BTW, there are several stages possible - stage 1 provides only a core
(this is actually the iso image you've been speaking about) - you have
to build a system from scratch;
I didn't know that but it fits what I've been doing. The disc is
quite easy to use, and I like being free to image any file to any
partition, and restore from any partition/device to any partition.
Plus if they could every come up with a partition tool better than
fdisc and cfdisc it would be easy to do all your partitioning from
this type of utility.
stage 2 has some additional parts and
stage 3 is a minimal system. Of course, each successively numbered stage
representa a larger download and less customization.
For example, in the versions to date, you *must* download kernel source
and compile your own kernel.
Gentoo says that the final 1.4 release will change the basic
installation philosophy and perhaps provide for a binary system that is
functional out of the box. I don't know the details.
There's no free lunch of course! There are least two drawbacks for such
an approach. First installing major software systems takes a long time.
The installation of KDE 3.1 from source, for example, takes about 4
hours on my Athlon XP 1700.
Of course most people will feel that to be too much. However I can
see it would maybe provide the ultimate customised OS to your equipement.
and once created one could easily image file the result to CD's for 
reinstalling
again, which would save an awful lot of time.

The other disadvantage stems from my 'newbieness'you have to learn
about packages on your own...since you have to select everything
yourself you need to know the names (and maybe the class) of software
packages to even find them in the portage tree. There are generic
directories for say window-managers but it helps to know a bit about a
program before you grab it.
For me, gentoo is test system...they always have the latest version of
pgms and if you want to move to a real gory bleeding edge kind of
install you can override their 'masks' (which block software pkgs in
devleopment or not fully tested) and really have fun!
It is however, very fast, and everything I've installed works
beautifully.
Terry Smith

 

How long did ittake you to learn to get a fair working OS up and running?

John

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Re: [newbie] Backup to CD-R/RW

2003-03-01 Thread Joeb

Anne,

I'm not sure if you're the one who started this thread or not, but if
you are looking for a way to backup an entire partition (Linux or
Windows, Novell), you might want to check out InstantRecovery from
NovaStor Corporation:  http://www.no-panic.com/recovery/irecover.html 
It's not free, but is pretty cheap (around $40 US).  It basically works
like Ghost and makes an image of the entire drive or individual
partitions.  It will create the image on bootable CD and CD/RW media,
too.  And best of all, it actually is based on Linux (at least version
3.1-the version I have is).

Joeb




On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 10:35, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Thursday 27 Feb 2003 6:05 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
  OK , I attatch the file for everone
 
  John
 
 John, I'm really confused by this.  First, I don't understand where Gentoo 
 comes into the equation?  You give the Gentoo url, then say download the iso 
 from the partimage website.
 
 On the partimage website I could not see what you were recommending to 
 download.
 
 There is an rpm for partimage on the distro, so what made you choose to 
 download another?
 
 Having installed the rpm from Mandrake, I could quite happily use it as it 
 stands, *except* that I can't see how the bootable image disk is made, and 
 without it I can't see a restore being possible.
 
 I'm used to DriveImage, so I understand the process - I just can't see how it 
 fits together with PartImage.
 
 Anne
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Re: [newbie] worried

2003-03-01 Thread Andrei Raevsky


 Now don't get me wrong I love linux and  have been with Mandrake since
 v6.0 though I must say in my opinion v9.0 is not one of it's best,
 perhaps, sorry, definately a bit hasty with this release!

 Anyway the point is I've just upgraded my windows98 to XP and I must
 admit in all fairness for the desktop, I know nothing of computers,
 average user,  XP is better.

 Now before I get flamed let me explain. I run a small 500mhz Athlon with
 64mg memory but for speed and effeiciency XP is by far the fastest. My
 Md9 is a minimal installation (although having most of the HD) but still
 pales in comparison to XP even when a large number of apps are working.
 With XP I boot and hey-presto I'm logging in with Md9 I can make a brew
 etc etc. (well not literally but you get the point)

 I beleive that as far as the end user is concerned speed is the most
 important factor.  Not how much software is free or that linux is more
 stable and reliable.  The average user wants speed.  You click on an
 icon and up pops the application IMMEDIATELY!!!  With XP even my little
 500 acheives this performance but alas (and I mean that with a heavy
 heart) Md9 is a slow monolith beleiving that placing god knows how many
 apps into their installation cd's will convert new customers.


 Just my thought

 Andrew

Hey, why would anyone flame you?!

You like XP - enjoy it!

I personally feel a deep aversion to MS and anything it produces and
stands for.  But that's my choice.

Keep an eye on Linux though :-)  you might change your mind again one day,
no?

Cheers,

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Re: [newbie] /net and /misc

2003-03-01 Thread Paul Kaplan

Nope, just /etc/mtab.
I know what fstab is used for.  What is mtab used for?
Paul

On Saturday 01 March 2003 17:26, et wrote:
 On Friday 28 February 2003 04:17 pm, Paul Kaplan wrote:
  On Friday 28 February 2003 15:25, et wrote:
   On Friday 28 February 2003 10:09 am, Dennis Myers wrote:
On Friday 28 February 2003 01:45 am, Paul Kaplan wrote:
 Anyone know what /net and /misc are?  They automount under m9, are
 always busy and can't be unmounted.  As a result I can't do a clean
 shutdown. How can I remidy?
 TIA
 Paul
   
Paul, can you cd to these directories and do a ls in console mode?
Might show what is in them, cause my system does not have either
directory.
  
   if I remember correctly (that might be a first) these are mount points
   created by some wild program (like linneighborhood or gnomba for the
   /net) and have a hard mount point in the script that creates them,
   maybe posting fstab and mtab might help.
 
  Dennis,
  ls /misc and ls /net return nothing
 
  et,
  From /etc/mtab:
  automount(pid1561) /misc autofs rw,fd=5,pgrp=1561,minproto=2,maxproto=4 0
  0 automount(pid1574) /net autofs rw,fd=5,pgrp=1574,minproto=2,maxproto=4
  0 0
 
  I use linneigborhood to work to access a LAN

 nothing in fstab? re /net, /misc???

  Derek,
  What configuration file am I looking for w/ autofs?


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RE: [newbie] /net and /misc

 From /etc/mtab:
 automount(pid1561) /misc autofs
 rw,fd=5,pgrp=1561,minproto=2,maxproto=4 0 0
 automount(pid1574) /net autofs
 rw,fd=5,pgrp=1574,minproto=2,maxproto=4 0 0

 I use linneigborhood to work to access a LAN

I dont use LN.  I dont have those mount points.  I guess it is LN that is
doing this for you guys.

# cat /etc/mtab
/dev/sda1 / ext3 rw 0 0
none /proc proc rw 0 0
none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs rw 0 0
none /dev devfs rw 0 0
none /dev/pts devpts rw,mode=0620 0 0
/dev/sda7 /home ext3 rw 0 0
/dev/sda6 /usr ext3 rw 0 0

Rob


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[newbie] Epson printer warning!

Okay, about a week ago I posted a message about problems I was having with my 
Epson C62 printer.

Just to make a long post -short-, I had used replacement inkjet carts. from 
Amazon Imaging.

In a word -- *DON'T*

I replaced them with genuine Epson carts and everything is fine again. ;-)

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Re: [newbie] /net and /misc

mtab= Mount TABle
fstab= File System TABle


On Saturday 01 March 2003 08:12 am, Paul Kaplan wrote:
 Nope, just /etc/mtab.
 I know what fstab is used for.  What is mtab used for?
 Paul

 On Saturday 01 March 2003 17:26, et wrote:
  On Friday 28 February 2003 04:17 pm, Paul Kaplan wrote:
   On Friday 28 February 2003 15:25, et wrote:
On Friday 28 February 2003 10:09 am, Dennis Myers wrote:
 On Friday 28 February 2003 01:45 am, Paul Kaplan wrote:
  Anyone know what /net and /misc are?  They automount under m9,
  are always busy and can't be unmounted.  As a result I can't do a
  clean shutdown. How can I remidy?
  TIA
  Paul

 Paul, can you cd to these directories and do a ls in console
 mode? Might show what is in them, cause my system does not have
 either directory.
   
if I remember correctly (that might be a first) these are mount
points created by some wild program (like linneighborhood or gnomba
for the /net) and have a hard mount point in the script that
creates them, maybe posting fstab and mtab might help.
  
   Dennis,
   ls /misc and ls /net return nothing
  
   et,
   From /etc/mtab:
   automount(pid1561) /misc autofs rw,fd=5,pgrp=1561,minproto=2,maxproto=4
   0 0 automount(pid1574) /net autofs
   rw,fd=5,pgrp=1574,minproto=2,maxproto=4 0 0
  
   I use linneigborhood to work to access a LAN
 
  nothing in fstab? re /net, /misc???
 
   Derek,
   What configuration file am I looking for w/ autofs?


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[newbie] Random X crashes and freezes

I'm still having problems with v9.0 (Powerpack) and X freezing up or quitting 
back to the desktop during games. 

I installed memtest last night, ran it for almost 12 hours, it gave no errors 
with 24 passes. (512 megs of DDR Ram - PNY brand)

Temperature, as reported by BIOS before the test was 27 degrees Celsius 
(System)  and 50 degrees Celsius (CPU). Afterwards, CPU was 52 Celsius.

Linux games that randomly crashout: Tribes 2, UT2003, Rune.

An oddity here - no WineX games crash. All work perfectly, including resource 
hogs like Warcraft 3.

I can sit at the keyboard constantly doing something (not games) and nothing 
happens. Walk away for a while - come back. X will be frozen, no mouse, or it 
will have a screen with totally wiped out graphics on it. Mouse or keyboard 
do not respond, nothing but a button reset works.

System is less than 3 months old:

IBM Deskstar 60 gig HD, AMD 2100XP CPU, Soyo Dragon Plus MB, Adaptec SCSI
with Toshiba DVD, Plextor CDRW, Umax scanner, Zip cart, USB mouse, printer, 
joystick, webcam, Linksys network card, Nvidia Geforce TI4200/4191 drivers.

Some BIOS stats:

Vcore - 1.74v
VCC - 2.5v
3.3v
+5  4.83v
+12 12.09v
5vsb  4.86v
Chassis fan - 2033
CPU fan - 3013

Any ideas anyone? Thanks much!

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Re: [newbie] /net and /misc

2003-03-01 Thread Greg Meyer

On Saturday 01 March 2003 08:12 am, Paul Kaplan wrote:
 Nope, just /etc/mtab.
 I know what fstab is used for.  What is mtab used for?

/etc/mtab is the file that tracks what filesystems are mounted, while fstab 
records what filesystems are mountable.
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Re: [newbie] Random X crashes and freezes

On Saturday 01 March 2003 01:51 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 I'm still having problems with v9.0 (Powerpack) and X freezing up or
 quitting back to the desktop during games.

 I installed memtest last night, ran it for almost 12 hours, it gave no
 errors with 24 passes. (512 megs of DDR Ram - PNY brand)

 Temperature, as reported by BIOS before the test was 27 degrees Celsius
 (System)  and 50 degrees Celsius (CPU). Afterwards, CPU was 52 Celsius.

 Linux games that randomly crashout: Tribes 2, UT2003, Rune.

 An oddity here - no WineX games crash. All work perfectly, including
 resource hogs like Warcraft 3.

 I can sit at the keyboard constantly doing something (not games) and
 nothing happens. Walk away for a while - come back. X will be frozen, no
 mouse, or it will have a screen with totally wiped out graphics on it.
 Mouse or keyboard do not respond, nothing but a button reset works.

 System is less than 3 months old:

 IBM Deskstar 60 gig HD, AMD 2100XP CPU, Soyo Dragon Plus MB, Adaptec SCSI
 with Toshiba DVD, Plextor CDRW, Umax scanner, Zip cart, USB mouse, printer,
 joystick, webcam, Linksys network card, Nvidia Geforce TI4200/4191 drivers.

 Some BIOS stats:

 Vcore - 1.74v
 VCC - 2.5v
 3.3v
 +5  4.83v
 +12 12.09v
 5vsb  4.86v
 Chassis fan - 2033
 CPU fan - 3013

 Any ideas anyone? Thanks much!

APM? acpi apic? no pentium? in lilo? in bios? as a service?
agp apature size? cpu /FSB clock speed? memory wait states?
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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

2003-03-01 Thread Technoslick

On Saturday 01 March 2003 01:39 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 Okay, about a week ago I posted a message about problems I was having with
 my Epson C62 printer.

Isn't it true on the newer inkjets that you need to apply a software 'patch' 
to reset the chip, or fool it, into thinking that the refill is brand new? A 
friend who refills her own told me she had to do this to get her own refils 
to work. This was in Windows, BTW.

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

2003-03-01 Thread rluchor





On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 14:20, Technoslick wrote:

On Saturday 01 March 2003 01:39 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 Okay, about a week ago I posted a message about problems I was having with
 my Epson C62 printer.

Isn't it true on the newer inkjets that you need to apply a software 'patch' 
to reset the chip, or fool it, into thinking that the refill is brand new? A 
friend who refills her own told me she had to do this to get her own refils 
to work. This was in Windows, BTW.

This is true for HP printers. The usual way is to have a rotation of 3 carts to be refilled, the printer remembers the serial numbers of the last two carts it used and won't print if you refill a cart and put it back in the printer. Which is the reason that I got rid of the HP printer and replaced it with an Epson C62, the HPs are just too expensive to operate and I don't see that much of a quality difference.

I've always used the cheapest replacement cartridges that I could find for my Epson printers without a problem. The C62 cart light is flashing and I'm almost out of black ink, we'll see how the replacement works very soon!

Rich

 



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Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Civilme is POPULAR! Yeesh! (grin)

2003-03-01 Thread Lyvim Xaphir


Very interesting. I think that if many of the magazines out there had any sense,
they would be hiring Civileme to do tech article work.  Seems like they would want
their money to go where it would get the best results.  It would be nice to hear
some straightforward commonsense tech talk for a change in the trade rags instead
of blah blah blather from non-tech journalists.

LX

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 Whilst doing my dirty work, er, perusing the technology pages, I just
 ran across some ditties that good'ole Civilme spat forth around about a
 month ago...was great seeing them included in an online article...good
 on ya mate!
 
 http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=4547
 


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Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Civilme is POPULAR! Yeesh! (grin)

2003-03-01 Thread Kaj Haulrich

On Saturday 01 March 2003 09:09 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
 Very interesting. I think that if many of the magazines
 out there had any sense, they would be hiring Civileme to
 do tech article work.  Seems like they would want their
 money to go where it would get the best results.  It
 would be nice to hear some straightforward commonsense
 tech talk for a change in the trade rags instead of blah
 blah blather from non-tech journalists.

 LX

I'll second that !

Kaj Haulrich.
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Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Civilme is POPULAR! Yeesh! (grin)

2003-03-01 Thread Kaj Haulrich

On Saturday 01 March 2003 09:16 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 On Saturday 01 March 2003 09:09 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
  Very interesting. I think that if many of the magazines
  out there had any sense, they would be hiring Civileme
  to do tech article work.  Seems like they would want
  their money to go where it would get the best results. 
  It would be nice to hear some straightforward
  commonsense tech talk for a change in the trade rags
  instead of blah blah blather from non-tech journalists.
 
  LX

 I'll second that !

 Kaj Haulrich.

And, on a lighter note, : I don't hope they hire him before 
he finishes *rpmdrakexaphir1.0.rpm*:-)  
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Re: [newbie] Backup to CD-R/RW

On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 6:05 pm, Joeb wrote:
 Anne,

 I'm not sure if you're the one who started this thread or not, but if
 you are looking for a way to backup an entire partition (Linux or
 Windows, Novell), you might want to check out InstantRecovery from
 NovaStor Corporation:  http://www.no-panic.com/recovery/irecover.html
 It's not free, but is pretty cheap (around $40 US).  It basically works
 like Ghost and makes an image of the entire drive or individual
 partitions.  It will create the image on bootable CD and CD/RW media,
 too.  And best of all, it actually is based on Linux (at least version
 3.1-the version I have is).

Thank you Joeb, I'll look at it.

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Re: [newbie] Unofficial February stats

On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 5:46 pm, Benjamin Pflugmann wrote:
 On Sat 2003-03-01 at 16:40:07 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 3:34 pm, Todd Slater wrote:
   Most active posters
  
   200Robert Wideman
   158Anne Wilson
 
  Shucks - I'm still talking too much.  I thought I'd been quieter lately.

 You just did it again. *lol*

And then again, people are so helpful, and I always have to say 'thank you'

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 8:03 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is true for HP printers.  The usual way is to have a rotation of 3
 carts to be refilled, the printer remembers the serial numbers of the
 last two carts it used and won't print if you refill a cart and put it
 back in the printer.  Which is the reason that I got rid of the HP
 printer and replaced it with an Epson C62, the HPs are just too
 expensive to operate and I don't see that much of a quality difference.

Not true.  I've used recycled cartridges on my HP printer for ages.  And I've 
taken one out, put a new one in, and when I got a faulty one that the printer 
wouldn't accept I put the old one back in until I could get a replacement.  
No problems at all.

 I've always used the cheapest replacement cartridges that I could find
 for my Epson printers without a problem.  The C62 cart light is flashing
 and I'm almost out of black ink, we'll see how the replacement works
 very soon!

At local computer fairs I see that a lot of refilled cartridges are available 
for Epson printers, but some vendors say that they are 'guaranteed chipped'.  
I've also read recently that the EU are trying to outlaw the practise of 
chipping cartridges, because it makes recycling difficult.

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Re: [newbie] Random X crashes and freezes

On Saturday 01 March 2003 01:06 pm, et wrote:
 On Saturday 01 March 2003 01:51 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
  I'm still having problems with v9.0 (Powerpack) and X freezing up or
  quitting back to the desktop during games.
 
  I installed memtest last night, ran it for almost 12 hours, it gave no
  errors with 24 passes. (512 megs of DDR Ram - PNY brand)
 
  Temperature, as reported by BIOS before the test was 27 degrees Celsius
  (System)  and 50 degrees Celsius (CPU). Afterwards, CPU was 52 Celsius.
 
  Linux games that randomly crashout: Tribes 2, UT2003, Rune.
 
  An oddity here - no WineX games crash. All work perfectly, including
  resource hogs like Warcraft 3.
 
  I can sit at the keyboard constantly doing something (not games) and
  nothing happens. Walk away for a while - come back. X will be frozen, no
  mouse, or it will have a screen with totally wiped out graphics on it.
  Mouse or keyboard do not respond, nothing but a button reset works.
 
  System is less than 3 months old:
 
  IBM Deskstar 60 gig HD, AMD 2100XP CPU, Soyo Dragon Plus MB, Adaptec SCSI
  with Toshiba DVD, Plextor CDRW, Umax scanner, Zip cart, USB mouse,
  printer, joystick, webcam, Linksys network card, Nvidia Geforce
  TI4200/4191 drivers.
 
  Some BIOS stats:
 
  Vcore - 1.74v
  VCC - 2.5v
  3.3v
  +5  4.83v
  +12 12.09v
  5vsb  4.86v
  Chassis fan - 2033
  CPU fan - 3013
 
  Any ideas anyone? Thanks much!

 APM? acpi apic? no pentium? in lilo? in bios? as a service?
 agp apature size? cpu /FSB clock speed? memory wait states?
 what does cat /proc/interrupts and cat /proc/pci
et may be on to something, are you running a GL screensaver? Or any 
screensaver for that matter. Choose none  for the screensaver and see if 
the problem persists. Guessing here.
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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

2003-03-01 Thread rluchor





On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 15:38, Anne Wilson wrote:

On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 8:03 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is true for HP printers.  The usual way is to have a rotation of 3
 carts to be refilled, the printer remembers the serial numbers of the
 last two carts it used and won't print if you refill a cart and put it
 back in the printer.  Which is the reason that I got rid of the HP
 printer and replaced it with an Epson C62, the HPs are just too
 expensive to operate and I don't see that much of a quality difference.

Not true.  I've used recycled cartridges on my HP printer for ages.  And I've 
taken one out, put a new one in, and when I got a faulty one that the printer 
wouldn't accept I put the old one back in until I could get a replacement.  
No problems at all.


I'm not sure what you mean by not true, but it sounds as if you have an older HP printer.


 I've always used the cheapest replacement cartridges that I could find
 for my Epson printers without a problem.  The C62 cart light is flashing
 and I'm almost out of black ink, we'll see how the replacement works
 very soon!

At local computer fairs I see that a lot of refilled cartridges are available 
for Epson printers, but some vendors say that they are 'guaranteed chipped'.  
I've also read recently that the EU are trying to outlaw the practise of 
chipping cartridges, because it makes recycling difficult.

Exactly what do you mean by chipped?

Rich




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Re: [newbie] Backup to CD-R/RW

2003-03-01 Thread Harv Nelson

I downloaded the eval version ... but it made me hunt up a WIN98 machine with 
a CD burner, so I could run the .exe download ... just to burn the ISO for 
me!   All that, so that I could try out a linux based program to back up a 
linux only machine (not a dual boot system).  Seems like the long 
run-around-end to get to the goal.

After all that, it wanted to make a compressed copy of my hda1 partition on 
hda6.  Which copy, I would then have to burn to CD, manually.  This is 
getting a little silly.

Thanks for all the help and suggestions ... but I don't have time to play like 
this.  I'm opting for the old machine with big HD to do a network backup of 
all the other disks.  I guess the question will then be, how long do I have 
to sleep at night so the backups can complete.

Thanks again

Harv

On Saturday 01 March 2003 02:22 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 6:05 pm, Joeb wrote:
  Anne,
 
  I'm not sure if you're the one who started this thread or not, but if
  you are looking for a way to backup an entire partition (Linux or
  Windows, Novell), you might want to check out InstantRecovery from
  NovaStor Corporation:  http://www.no-panic.com/recovery/irecover.html
  It's not free, but is pretty cheap (around $40 US).  It basically works
  like Ghost and makes an image of the entire drive or individual
  partitions.  It will create the image on bootable CD and CD/RW media,
  too.  And best of all, it actually is based on Linux (at least version
  3.1-the version I have is).

 Thank you Joeb, I'll look at it.

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Re: [newbie] worried

On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 21:01, mycal62 wrote:
 are you trying to convert us ?
 
 even if speed would be better on my box , I will NEVER put xp on it.
 
 I hate windows on so many levels so speed means nothing to me .
 
 besides I run a 1.466 gig cpu , and mandrake has always been faster than 
 any windows product for me.
 

I think the idea of the verbal exercise was to point out that from a
non tech perspective - without the know-how or desire to improve the
performance of the box, that XP ran better than MDK - but this is a
rather unfair statement because 1.) only one linux distro was tested,
2.) no  time appears to have been spent in seeking out why performance
was degraded so badly upon first installation and 3.) he didn't try BeOS
or OS/2

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Re: [newbie] sb live x gamer - how to turn on mic?

On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 23:01, mycal62 wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have a sound blaster Xgamer sound card. I wan to use the mic in linux, 
 but it is turned off.
 
 anyone know how to turn it on?
 
 Mandrake 9.0 kde 3.1  emu10k1 driver

You should be able to use any of the mixers to unmute that function.
Kmix, aumix, alsamixer and the likes.

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 8:52 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 15:38, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 8:03 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   This is true for HP printers.  The usual way is to have a rotation of 3
   carts to be refilled, the printer remembers the serial numbers of the
   last two carts it used and won't print if you refill a cart and put it
   back in the printer.  Which is the reason that I got rid of the HP
   printer and replaced it with an Epson C62, the HPs are just too
   expensive to operate and I don't see that much of a quality difference.
 
  Not true.  I've used recycled cartridges on my HP printer for ages.  And
  I've taken one out, put a new one in, and when I got a faulty one that
  the printer wouldn't accept I put the old one back in until I could get a
  replacement. No problems at all.

 I'm not sure what you mean by not true, but it sounds as if you have
 an older HP printer.

Deskjet 990Cxi - not old by any stretch of imagination.

   I've always used the cheapest replacement cartridges that I could find
   for my Epson printers without a problem.  The C62 cart light is
   flashing and I'm almost out of black ink, we'll see how the replacement
   works very soon!
 
  At local computer fairs I see that a lot of refilled cartridges are
  available for Epson printers, but some vendors say that they are
  'guaranteed chipped'. I've also read recently that the EU are trying to
  outlaw the practise of chipping cartridges, because it makes recycling
  difficult.

 Exactly what do you mean by chipped?

I don't know anything about the technology, other than people selling them 
told me that it is the way that Epson machines are rigged to recognise their 
own cartridges.

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Re: [newbie] msn messenger voice through mandrake gateway?

On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 21:27, mycal62 wrote:
 is it possible to run msn messenger through a mandrake box ( gateway ) ??
 
 Or can I use a voice messenger client in linux to connect to my son who 
 lives in the Netherlands?
 I have a cable internet connection , and the linux box is the main and 
 gateway for my local lan.
 
 phone calls are far too expensive.
 
 any suggestions?

There are heaps of telephony applications available for linux - aside
from just IM applications - have you done any searches at freshmeat.net
or sourceforge.net?

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Re: [newbie] DIRECT CONNECT active mode and SHOREWALL

On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 18:11, Bela Markus wrote:
   Hi,
 
 I spent nights without any success to configure SHOREWALL in 9.0 to run 
 Direct Connect (DC++ exactly) to run in active mode.
 
 Is there a solution out there?
 
 Regards... Bela, HA5DI

Yes. Don't use SHOREWALL.

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Re: [newbie] Backup to CD-R/RW

2003-03-01 Thread robin

Harv Nelson wrote:
I downloaded the eval version ... but it made me hunt up a WIN98 machine with 
a CD burner, so I could run the .exe download ... just to burn the ISO for 
me!   All that, so that I could try out a linux based program to back up a 
linux only machine (not a dual boot system).  Seems like the long 
run-around-end to get to the goal.

After all that, it wanted to make a compressed copy of my hda1 partition on 
hda6.  Which copy, I would then have to burn to CD, manually.  This is 
getting a little silly.

Thanks for all the help and suggestions ... but I don't have time to play like 
this.  I'm opting for the old machine with big HD to do a network backup of 
all the other disks.  I guess the question will then be, how long do I have 
to sleep at night so the backups can complete.

I think you're right - if you have the hard disk space, HD backups are a 
lot easier, and you can set them as cron jobs.  The only disadvantage is 
if the backup box is in the same building as the other computers, then a 
physical disaster (fire, flood, massive power spike, al-Qaeda attack, 
Avril Lavigne video) can wipe it out along with the rest.  Otherwise 
it's pretty reliable.  If you've got HD space in spades, you can even 
back up the backups.  I do this with my backup script that grabs the 
contents of My Documents on the Windows machines. There's always the 
possibility that a user has left the computer in a state where it's 
unreachable on the network, so the backup file gets overwritten by a 
load of nothing (I supose you could get round that by checking the file 
size).

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Re: [newbie] no sound in 9.0

On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 10:10, lewis wrote:
 Hello,  I have Mandrake Linux 9.0 installed on my computer.  The sound doesn't 
 work but it does on the windows side of the partition.  I have an AMD 
 Mainboard that uses SiS 740 chipset. It also has a built in AC97 Codec.  I am 
 not sure what other information you might need out of the book.  I am very 
 new to Mandrake Linux.  There is so much I don't understand.  Any help would 
 be greatly appreciated.  Thanks  Brenda 
 

You might want to dig into whether or not your mixer settings are mucked
up a bit - running either kmix or kmixctrl - or go through the Mandrake
Control Centre and double check that the hardware is being seen - the
AC97 stuff should, SHOULD generally work like a charm...

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RE: [newbie] DIRECT CONNECT active mode and SHOREWALL

 Wouldn't it be easier, cheaper and wiser to ditch Shorewall and either
 manually edit the iptables scripts to allow for either ports to be
 opened or ports to be closed?
 Initially learning the basics to ipchains or iptables is a great thing
 for anyone to KNOW - as it is their city wall - and knowing where
 breaches in this wall are, or where to create strategic breaches is
 something I would suggest to everyone that has a *nix box.

I agree.  I have read over the IP Tables info ever since NetFilter started
and its the first thing that i disable/uninstall on a box.  If i want it
then i install a new kernel with it built in and then do the config
manually.
There cant be anything said for doing the GUI vs scripting when it comes
down
to knowing what the hell is going on.

 Aside from learning the basics to ipchains/iptables, you also start to
 encompass the simplicity of ip masquerading - otherwise known in the M$
 world as internet connection sharing and how that can be used to
 bridge networks - virtual and physical.

 IF you know what to do and are armed with the knowledge, it takes merely
 minutes to have your ports opened or closed for whatever reasons - and
 to have sharing turned on - it's truly amazing how simple it is - why
 do you think M$ has on Win98 thru WinXP? If it was complex, they'd
 charge for it. Because it's such a simple exercise, though, they've
 stolen the basics from *nix and added it as a feature.

I agree.  Even including Cisco routers.  My roommate has a Cisco 2500 up
and running and always has to consult me on wtf his rules are doing for
his ACL's b/c he doesnt understand the basics of his rules.  Why he has a
Cisco router up instead of me using my p266 when I KNOW IPTables?  He needs
to learn Cisco for certs

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Re: [newbie] no sound in 9.0

2003-03-01 Thread robin

lewis wrote:
Hello,  I have Mandrake Linux 9.0 installed on my computer.  The sound doesn't 
work but it does on the windows side of the partition.  I have an AMD 
Mainboard that uses SiS 740 chipset. It also has a built in AC97 Codec.  I am 
not sure what other information you might need out of the book.  I am very 
new to Mandrake Linux.  There is so much I don't understand.  Any help would 
be greatly appreciated.  Thanks  Brenda 
Try exiting X-window and running sndconfig (as root).

Sir Robin

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RE: [newbie] Unofficial February stats

 Shit - stats are down - I'm going to have to tackle Mr. Wideman...(grin)

Lol.  Good luck.

Rob

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RE: [newbie] ARTICLE: Civilme is POPULAR! Yeesh! (grin)

 I'll agree on that point. Too bad the bastard lives in Alaska. Else I'd
 ask him to come on down here to Aussie for a tour...(g)

Alaska? WTF is up there other than dry cold weather?
Rob

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

On Saturday 01 March 2003 02:20 pm, Technoslick wrote:

 Isn't it true on the newer inkjets that you need to apply a software
 'patch' to reset the chip, or fool it, into thinking that the refill is
 brand new? A friend who refills her own told me she had to do this to get
 her own refils to work. This was in Windows, BTW.

 T

Hmm, hadn't ever heard that but I guess its possible. Of course, I don't use 
Windows on my main comp...

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

2003-03-01 Thread rluchor

On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 17:08, Anne Wilson wrote:

On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 8:52 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 15:38, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 8:03 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is true for HP printers. The usual way is to have a rotation of 3
carts to be refilled, the printer remembers the serial numbers of the
last two carts it used and won't print if you refill a cart and put it
back in the printer. Which is the reason that I got rid of the HP
printer and replaced it with an Epson C62, the HPs are just too
expensive to operate and I don't see that much of a quality difference.

Not true. I've used recycled cartridges on my HP printer for ages. And
I've taken one out, put a new one in, and when I got a faulty one that
the printer wouldn't accept I put the old one back in until I could get a
replacement. No problems at all.

I'm not sure what you mean by not true, but it sounds as if you have
an older HP printer.

Deskjet 990Cxi - not old by any stretch of imagination.

I've always used the cheapest replacement cartridges that I could find
for my Epson printers without a problem. The C62 cart light is
flashing and I'm almost out of black ink, we'll see how the replacement
works very soon!

At local computer fairs I see that a lot of refilled cartridges are
available for Epson printers, but some vendors say that they are
'guaranteed chipped'. I've also read recently that the EU are trying to
outlaw the practise of chipping cartridges, because it makes recycling
difficult.

Exactly what do you mean by chipped?

I don't know anything about the technology, other than people selling them
told me that it is the way that Epson machines are rigged to recognise their
own cartridges.

That's what I thought you meant, but now I'm confused! HP printer carts are the ones chipped here in the states and I'm not aware of any Epson carts being chipped, and I own 4 of them at the moment. Can anyone else step in here and help me out?

Rich

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Re: [newbie] Random X crashes and freezes

On Saturday 01 March 2003 03:49 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:

 et may be on to something, are you running a GL screensaver? Or any
 screensaver for that matter. Choose none  for the screensaver and see if
 the problem persists. Guessing here.

Well, right after I sent this (ah, the timing!!!) I figured out that since I 
installed the 4191 drivers (I had used the default 3123 from the install) 
none of the screensavers that require 3D acceleration are working. 3D stuff 
is working though - all games are fine.

So...what do I need to do to get the screensavers to recognize the new 
drivers?

Thanks much everyone!

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FW: [newbie] Unofficial February stats


  Shit - stats are down - I'm going to have to tackle Mr.
 Wideman...(grin)

 Lol.  Good luck.

I forgot to say that i am unemployed and have all the time in the world to
reply to this list.
If any of you guys live in Austin (or Dallas or Houston or San Antonio) and
have jobs that are
avail at your company or know of any jobs then PLEASE let me know.  It sucks
knowing i make more on  unemployment then i do working a 40 hour work week
making $10 /hr.

Rob


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Re: [newbie] Backup to CD-R/RW

2003-03-01 Thread H.J.Bathoorn

On Sunday 02 March 2003 00:18, robin wrote:
 Harv Nelson wrote:
  I downloaded the eval version ... but it made me hunt up a WIN98 machine
  with a CD burner, so I could run the .exe download ... just to burn the
  ISO for me!   All that, so that I could try out a linux based program to
  back up a linux only machine (not a dual boot system).  Seems like the
  long run-around-end to get to the goal.
 
  After all that, it wanted to make a compressed copy of my hda1 partition
  on hda6.  Which copy, I would then have to burn to CD, manually.  This is
  getting a little silly.
 
  Thanks for all the help and suggestions ... but I don't have time to play
  like this.  I'm opting for the old machine with big HD to do a network
  backup of all the other disks.  I guess the question will then be, how
  long do I have to sleep at night so the backups can complete.

 I think you're right - if you have the hard disk space, HD backups are a
 lot easier, and you can set them as cron jobs.  The only disadvantage is
 if the backup box is in the same building as the other computers, then a
 physical disaster (fire, flood, massive power spike, al-Qaeda attack,
 Avril Lavigne video) can wipe it out along with the rest.  Otherwise
 it's pretty reliable.  If you've got HD space in spades, you can even
 back up the backups.  I do this with my backup script that grabs the
 contents of My Documents on the Windows machines. There's always the
 possibility that a user has left the computer in a state where it's
 unreachable on the network, so the backup file gets overwritten by a
 load of nothing (I supose you could get round that by checking the file
 size).

 Sir Robin


Hmmm I myself have always been fairly succesfull in repairing data after a 
software- or OS crash.

The thing I really dread is a whole (big! nowadays) HD going up in smoke.
I suppose you could back up on another HD but you don't always know which goes 
first do you?

Prefer the CD backup all the way, that's certain.

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FW: [newbie] Unofficial February stats

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Wideman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 5:24 PM
 To: Newbie
 Subject: FW: [newbie] Unofficial February stats

   Shit - stats are down - I'm going to have to tackle Mr. 
  Wideman...(grin)

  Lol.  Good luck.

 I forgot to say that i am unemployed and have all the time in 
 the world to reply to this list.
 If any of you guys live in Austin (or Dallas or Houston or San 
 Antonio) 

Actually anywhere in Texas for that matter.

Rob

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Re: [newbie] Random X crashes and freezes

On Saturday 01 March 2003 02:06 pm, et wrote:

 APM? acpi apic? no pentium? in lilo? in bios? as a service?
 agp apature size? cpu /FSB clock speed? memory wait states?
 what does cat /proc/interrupts and cat /proc/pci

APM is disabled in services. I've tried the no/off acpi and apic options in 
/etc/lilo.conf, seem to make no diff. (and yes I reran /sbin/lilo). Agp 
aperture size is set to 64 or 128, can't remember which. I've got a 64 meg 
Nvidia Ti4200 Geforce card. I'm using the default BIOS settings for the CPU 
and front side bus. I believe its 266mhz for the FSB. Again, the default 
settings (supposedly safe) are set for memory wait states.

Here are interrupts and pci:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] darklord]$ cat /proc/interrupts
   CPU0   
  0: 418895  XT-PIC  timer
  1:   3953  XT-PIC  keyboard
  2:  0  XT-PIC  cascade
  4:  28929  XT-PIC  serial
  5:  71101  XT-PIC  CMI8738-MC6, nvidia
  7: 61  XT-PIC  bttv
  8:  1  XT-PIC  rtc
 10:313  XT-PIC  eth0
 11:   4609  XT-PIC  aic7xxx, usb-uhci, usb-uhci
 14:  18664  XT-PIC  ide0
NMI:  0 
LOC: 418840 
ERR:  0
MIS:  0

PCI devices found:
  Bus  0, device   0, function  0:
Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8367 [KT266] (rev 0).
  Master Capable.  Latency=8.  
  Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xd000 [0xd7ff].
  Bus  0, device   1, function  0:
PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8367 [KT266 AGP] (rev 0).
  Master Capable.  No bursts.  Min Gnt=12.
  Bus  0, device   9, function  0:
Ethernet controller: Linksys Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 model 
NC100 (rev 17).
  IRQ 10.
  Master Capable.  Latency=32.  Min Gnt=255.Max Lat=255.
  I/O at 0xd000 [0xd0ff].
  Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe300 [0xe30003ff].
  Bus  0, device  10, function  0:
Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 (rev 17).
  IRQ 7.
  Master Capable.  Latency=32.  Min Gnt=16.Max Lat=40.
  Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe3001000 [0xe3001fff].
  Bus  0, device  10, function  1:
Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 (rev 17).
  IRQ 7.
  Master Capable.  Latency=32.  Min Gnt=4.Max Lat=255.
  Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe3002000 [0xe3002fff].
  Bus  0, device  11, function  0:
SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AHA-2930CU (rev 3).
  IRQ 11.
  Master Capable.  Latency=32.  Min Gnt=4.Max Lat=4.
  I/O at 0xd400 [0xd4ff].
  Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe3003000 [0xe3003fff].
  Bus  0, device  14, function  0:
Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 16).
  IRQ 5.
  Master Capable.  Latency=32.  Min Gnt=2.Max Lat=24.
  I/O at 0xd800 [0xd8ff].
  Bus  0, device  17, function  0:
ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233 PCI to ISA Bridge (rev 0).
  Bus  0, device  17, function  1:
IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. Bus Master IDE (rev 6).
  Master Capable.  Latency=32.  
  I/O at 0xdc00 [0xdc0f].
  Bus  0, device  17, function  2:
USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UHCI USB (rev 27).
  IRQ 11.
  Master Capable.  Latency=32.  
  I/O at 0xe000 [0xe01f].
  Bus  0, device  17, function  3:
USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UHCI USB (#2) (rev 27).
  IRQ 11.
  Master Capable.  Latency=32.  
  I/O at 0xe400 [0xe41f].
  Bus  1, device   0, function  0:
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce4 Ti 4200 (rev 163).
  IRQ 5.
  Master Capable.  Latency=248.  Min Gnt=5.Max Lat=1.
  Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe000 [0xe0ff].
  Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xd800 [0xdbff].
  Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xdc00 [0xdc07].

Well, thats about it. I guess you saw in another reply to this thread that I 
figured out what was wrong outside of games - somehow when I installed the 
4191 drivers, it broke my screensavers that needed 3D acceleration. So, I 
just need to know what to do to re-enable them.

Thanks for all your help! :-)

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Re: [newbie] hellooooooooooooooo?

2003-03-01 Thread H.J.Bathoorn

On Saturday 01 March 2003 23:22, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 00:59, Damian Gatabria wrote:
  anybody in there? Hellooo!!
 
  ***blinks flashlight into the dark***
  Damian
 
 
  __

 I'm sorry, the party you're referring to no longer exists in this
 temporal space. Please check back on the next vortex flux to see if the
 tachyon discharges in the inter-spatial fabric will cause the temporal
 space to be realigned with the one you're referring to. Thank you very
 much and have a pleasant day.

These kind of posts of your's I always have to read twice, to be sure!

I keep forgetting you lot are a day ahead (almost).
Ahh, well that means we die a day later as well doesn't it? Excluding trolls, 
fairy's and vampires of course.

Aaaand you always get stuck with yesterday's news on CNN, don't you?:o)

Good luck,
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RE: [newbie] ARTICLE: Civilme is POPULAR! Yeesh! (grin)

On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 10:17, Robert Wideman wrote:
  I'll agree on that point. Too bad the bastard lives in Alaska. Else I'd
  ask him to come on down here to Aussie for a tour...(g)
 
 Alaska? WTF is up there other than dry cold weather?
 Rob
 

Last I visited, not much. Bars, snow, cold, fish, snow, ice, snow, pine
trees, snow, big rocks, ice, and more snow.

Good grounds for living in front of a computer 24/7.

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Re: FW: [newbie] Unofficial February stats

On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 10:23, Robert Wideman wrote:
   Shit - stats are down - I'm going to have to tackle Mr.
  Wideman...(grin)
 
  Lol.  Good luck.
 
 I forgot to say that i am unemployed and have all the time in the world to
 reply to this list.
 If any of you guys live in Austin (or Dallas or Houston or San Antonio) and
 have jobs that are
 avail at your company or know of any jobs then PLEASE let me know.  It sucks
 knowing i make more on  unemployment then i do working a 40 hour work week
 making $10 /hr.
 
 Rob

My parent live outside of Austin. Maybe you can get them to let you do a
Windows optimisation and maintenance on their system? (grin)
(Georgetown - and not that they'd pay much, but ma does cook...)

In reality, though, I always found that MCI in Richardson was a great
source of consistent contract work...but now I can't remember the names
of the contract companies that I used to work through - been quite a
while...and Fritolay/PespiCo lup in Plano was always burning through
contractors...

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RE: [newbie] Unofficial February stats

On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 10:16, Robert Wideman wrote:
  Shit - stats are down - I'm going to have to tackle Mr. Wideman...(grin)
 
 Lol.  Good luck.
 
 Rob

Part of the issue is that I've had to make a living - which is
expected from about third week of January and then beyond - same every
year - been like that since I can remember. However, WHEN I get my ADSL
setup here - which is going to be VERY shortly, I shan't hesitate to be
a touch more quick on the replies.

Overall, though, when you're steeped in it from 5am through 11pm (or
longer) every night, one does have to take some time off and away in
order to massage the ol'carpal tunnels and give the remaining brain
cells a bit of non-electronic relief.

I could, however, put business aside and just play endlessly, but I
don't think that I can get paid for that at the moment...(grin)

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Re: FW: [newbie] Unofficial February stats

On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 10:30, Robert Wideman wrote:
  -Original Message-
  From: Robert Wideman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 5:24 PM
  To: Newbie
  Subject: FW: [newbie] Unofficial February stats

Shit - stats are down - I'm going to have to tackle Mr. 
   Wideman...(grin)

   Lol.  Good luck.

  I forgot to say that i am unemployed and have all the time in 
  the world to reply to this list.
  If any of you guys live in Austin (or Dallas or Houston or San 
  Antonio) 

 Actually anywhere in Texas for that matter.

 Rob

Why be so Texas - specific ??
There's more to life than Texas mate...Australia, for example...
If it's the flat, boring, lifeless plains you're desiring, we got
heaps here! (Hey wait, David Koresh had a good setup - shouldn't be too
hard to copy that one) (Not that Corpus Cripsy is a great place)

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Re: [newbie] hellooooooooooooooo?

On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 10:39, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:

 These kind of posts of your's I always have to read twice, to be sure!
 
(And I try to avoid reading...grin)

 I keep forgetting you lot are a day ahead (almost).
 Ahh, well that means we die a day later as well doesn't it? Excluding trolls, 
 fairy's and vampires of course.
 
 Aaaand you always get stuck with yesterday's news on CNN, don't you?:o)
 
Nah - I read the Sydney Morning Herald - we're still a day ahead...

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Re: [newbie] hellooooooooooooooo?

2003-03-01 Thread H.J.Bathoorn

On Sunday 02 March 2003 00:59, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 Nah - I read the Sydney Morning Herald - we're still a day ahead...

Aaah, what's in a date.the news on any other day is as bad just the same.
Free to Shakespeare (Will)=:o)

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[newbie] Linux Virtual Memory Manager posted by kerneltrap

Dont know if you guys follow Linux THIS much.  I know i do not, 
but if i were bored at 5am and not able to sleep I  might be 
able to understand it with about 4 cups of java (that is coffee 
for some of you non-coffee drinkers) or your favorite expresso.
http://www.csn.ul.ie/~mel/projects/vm/guide/html/understand/

Rob

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