R: [newbie-it] librerie mancanti
dovrebbe far parte del pacchetto kdelibs. Prova a reinstallarlo. Magari prima prova un rpm -V kdelibs dovrebbe verificare l'integrità del pacchetto installato. Almeno a leggere il man di rpm. se provo a lanciare rpm mi dà un altro errore di libreria mancante (questa volta è librpmio-4.0.4-so). Questo problema mi è già capitato 2 volte, solo con la mdk9.1, e alla fine ho sempre dovuto reinstallare tutto. Grazie comunque per il suggerimento.
Re: [newbie-it] Re: OT_Xmms e Mp3
il 23:05, venerdì 23 maggio 2003, si è scritto riguardo a Re: [newbie-it] Re: OT_Xmms e Mp3 Ogni tanto mi da questo errore... Non ho potuto aprire l'audio: Controlla che... 1. Sia selezionato il Plugin di Output corretto 2. Nessun altro programma stia bloccando la scheda sonora 3. La tua scheda sonora sia propriamente configurata. Infine lanciando xmms da console non cambia nulla e non voglio cambiare distro solo perchè non riesco a far funzionare il lettore mp3. vai nel centro di controllo di KDE (suppongo tu usi questo) -suono e milti media- sistema sonoro-se è flaggato,deflagga avvia server sonoro arts prova cosi. probabilmente ti va in conflitto arts con xmms Grazie Tom! Aveve perfettamente ragione! Server Art in conflitto!! L'ho tolto ho selezionato il plugin di output OSS e funzica perfettamente. Assie mille! Scusate se mi intrometto con un pò di ritardo ma volevo dire che arts non è una specie di cancro per i sistemi che usano l'audio ma un sistema molto potente di far girare insieme i molti programmi che richiedono la scheda audio simultaneamente. Il prezzo da pagare è che non è democratico quindi non ti lascia usare direttamente il la scheda. Basta lanciare i programmi preceduti da soundwrapper e questi si sottomettono ad arts senza che l'utente ne abbia a male (anzi...). Non capisco perchè xmms ti abbia dato questo problema, forse lo hai lanciato tu da console? Mandrake usa soundwrapper per lanciare tutti i programmi che usano la scheda in ambiente KDE. Ciao, Germano
Re: [newbie-it] fetch - fermi tutti! E ora mutt..
* Luigi Pinna wrote: Ragazzi scusate se ve lo chiedo, ma ormai il thread e` diventato lunghissimo: E` possibile avere un riassunto sulle manovre da fare per poter configurare il proprio sistema su questa combinazione fetchmail-sendmail e tutto il resto? Cosa? Stai scherzando vero? Dai.. rileggiti il thread. -- syd - Slackware 9.0 * K 2.4.20 -
Re: [newbie-it] manutenzione_del_sistema
il 21:54, sabato 24 maggio 2003, si è scritto riguardo a Re: [newbie-it] manutenzione_del_sistema Alle 17:33, sabato 24 maggio 2003, piter ha scritto: Quindi è sufficiente così? Non devo fare nulla? si dovrebbe bastare... ti consiglio di tenere d'occhio /tmp in cui si depositano molti file inutitlizzati. Ogni tot (quando lo spazio occupato cresce) cancella il contenuto.. Ci sono due programmi che sono sempre presenti in mandrake (almeno fino alla 9.0) che si occupano di cancellare i files temporanei e di ordinare e ripulire i files di log e sonon rispettivamente: tmpwatch e logrotate. Spero di aver risposto (se le ho capite) alle domande. Ciao, Germano
Re: [newbie-it] fetch - fermi tutti! E ora mutt..
* Giuseppe Ferruzzi wrote: La prossima puntata riguarderà la configurazione di fetchmail con i dati del proprio provider, ma delego a syd questa patata bollente che è più preparato di me ed è giusto che sia lui a portare avanti questo discorso, se ne ha voglia, non so io a decidere. Al limite come allievo potrò intervenire in alleggerimento con qualche considerazione personale. No.. e' precisamente il contrario Giuseppe! Se vuoi procedere vai avanti tranquillamente. Non capisco pero' l'attegiamento di Luigi. Signor Pinna, il thread te lo puoi rileggere, puoi iniziare a smanettare e quando non risolvi.. chiedi. Rischiamo di duplicare i thread ragazzi. Ripeto Giuseppe, se ti va di ripartire fallo pure. -- syd - LU 285930 * LM 167646 -
Re: [newbie-it] uno scherzo da mutt
* Arwan wrote: Ora che sai che non e' lo scambio tra mbox/mdir a creare il problema, hai qualceh idea? Ho aperto con l'editor di testo la mbox sputtanata e quella che ho recuperato; sulla prima parti di testo sono satte tagliate e/o invertite e sparpagiate per il file... CHE SIA UN VIRUS? :-))) Dall'help di kmail ** Posso usare KMail con un altro client di posta, ad es. mutt? Se usi il formato mbox per le cartelle di posta, non puoi usare altri client di posta mentre KMail è in funzione. Con mutt ci possono essere problemi anche se i due programmi non sono contemporaneamente in esecuzione. In questo caso, raccomandiamo di usare il formato maildir, che dovrebbe risolvere tutti i problemi. ** Quindi: kamail era aperto quando con mutt navigavi nella dir di kmail? Per quanto riguarda la seconda parte della faq.. fregatene! Io nel periodo di transizione da kmail a mutt navigavo senza problemi nei file di kmail e i programmi erano entrambi settati per il formato mbox. Pero' non ho mai usato mutt con kmail aperto!! -- syd - LU 285930 * LM 167646 -
Re: [newbie-it] problemi audio..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 19:40, mercoledì 28 maggio 2003, freefred ha scritto: sorry per la domanda banale: hai provato almeno con l'xmms tutti i server sonori? (arts, oss, esd, quelli che hai insomma) bye Ho trovato il problema! In pratica io ho 2 schede audio (che saranno motivo di una prossima discussione...) perché una è integrata nella motherboard. All'avvio della macchina mi ricordo di aver letto che c'erano dei problemi col modulo della scheda integrata. Siccome la scheda integrata era settata come /dev/dsp e la sound blaster come /dev/dsp1 il kernel mi ha invertito i dispositivi: mettendo xine sull'autorilevamento e in xmms indicando direttamente la periferica tutto funziona! - -- Non dimentico mai una faccia, ma nel tuo caso faro' un'eccezione. -- Groucho Marx -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+1i34TvJtVxCNwP4RAhm5AKCOV/ccN/BUe4qvW0SLuS0TuoPVSgCeP9+E EACbugbn0J7pom4KP2nXUOk= =2UAb -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[newbie-it] dvr
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Quesito del giorno: cercando di usare la scheda tv come videoregistratore ho compilato questo programma, ma quando lo avvio mi dice: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dvr-qtgui Loading required GL library /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 Unsupported pixel format (7)! Please contact the author, in order to handle this case. DVR error : unable to initialize the video for linux interface (dvr.cpp:178) Qualcuno lo usa? Oppure mi sa dire che fare ? Non ho trovato nulla nella documentazione! Ciao ciao! - -- Ogni cosa dovrebbe essere costruita top-down, eccetto la prima volta. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+1jE2TvJtVxCNwP4RAiCPAJ4/OAScosLOFX6jyFtolZ/7c5ip3gCgm5mL mp8N/PyXWwtt23B8r7MtuTM= =iMSW -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it] dvd ogle sound alsa
vero, grazie. prima volta che una roba scaricata dalla luna funziona al primo colpo! mplayer! ho installato libdvdcss2 (credo) e mplayer con dipendenze da plf e va, e non si pianta se vai avanti-indietro-pausa-ecc. però se cambio lingua o sottotitoli in corso di proiezione mi riparte da inizio supporto (pazienza ce ne fosse che funzionano al primo colpo). però per fare il pedante, molti vedo che preferiscono ogle. in effetti sul mio sistema il servizio alsa risulta fermato secondo mandrake control center - services, nè riparte premendo start. eppure suona tutto, quindi magari il sig. ogle potrebbe contrattare il suono con qualche altro signore e magari si può dirglielo, questo era in parte il senso del quesito. temo che quando Emiliano parla di menuconfig si riferisca a compilazioni. io non ricompilo per principio. ho comprato 8.1 powerpack, 9.1 powerpack, pago e pretendo (scherzo). però non è che magari le update servono? grazie a tutti. ciao. paolo brusasco wrote: omissis
Re: [newbie-it] [Lunghetto]Era schermo centrato ora : Perch X non riesce a partire con i settaggi che gli d?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 21:30, mercoled 28 maggio 2003, in merito a Re: [newbie-it] [Lunghetto]Era schermo centrato ora : Perch X non riesce a partire con i settaggi che gli d?, stefano ha scritto: e allora mandaci pinco.pallo C'era! era il pezzo: ... Using vt 7 (II) [GLX]: Initializing GLX extension xf86KbdEvents Resource temporarily unavailable waiting for X server to shut down ok.. nessun errore comunque... ti spiega la sintassi, parte e ti avvisa solo che non hai le estensioni xkbd.. okkio questi moduli sono stati compilati per Xfree 4.0.2 quindi con gcc 2.95.3 Uso gli stessi driver sul PC Grande con la stessa relase (MDK 9.1) e non ho problemi! meglio.. una cosa poco pulita, ma se funzia... # Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)? # 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync ModeLine 1024x48065.00 1024 1032 1176 1344 480 488 494 563 -hsync -vsync queste modeline sono per il tuo flat panel? mi sembrano strane.. 1024x480 ?? HELP il mio flaty non 1024 * 480 ma bensi 1024 * 768 proveder a commentare la riga (tra l'altro non neanche unn Sony ma bensi un Toshiba sat pro 6100!) quella riga l'ha aggiunta drakxconf? da dove l'ha mai presa?? hai provato commentandole se l'autoprobe riesce a trovare delle frequenze utilizzabili? si freeza e non riesco a lanciarlo! qualcosa che non funzia c'... rigenerare XF86Config da zero e a mano? con xf86config passi tu i valori... tanto ormai conosci il tuo hardware quindi non rischi di friggere il monitor - -- bye miKe Slackware 8.1 GNU/Linux 2.4.20 @ hp Xe3 R.U.#219755 -- S.R.U.#705 -- R.M.#110932 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj7WTS8ACgkQF/9fksDJ4y1ccgCfXDYrG0rrvSmp4vv2TNDnd5j3 09wAn3PZGTmHmL/5+ZySRZvCMXo2g/zy =F1kH -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it] problemi audio...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 18:04, mercoledì 28 maggio 2003, in merito a [newbie-it] problemi audio..., Luigi Pinna ha scritto: Posso trovare una soluzione o devo reinstallare questi programmi? (saranno le famose applicazioni che dopo la ricompilazione del kernel vanno ricompilate di cui mi parlava mike?) no no intendevo applicazioni che girano molto molto più vicine al kernel.. pppd, iptables, pcmcia_cs .. Ciao e bello sentire la radio... - -- bye miKe Slackware 8.1 GNU/Linux 2.4.20 @ hp Xe3 R.U.#219755 -- S.R.U.#705 -- R.M.#110932 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj7WTZEACgkQF/9fksDJ4y1a+gCgg76RNhR9zJ/r/4pPfTMCVOSL YpkAn0xb183EE7bAxaED3spbXnzcbA+t =U2DF -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it] Radeon 7500 + monitor LG 520 Si
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 01:49, mercoledì 28 maggio 2003, in merito a Re: [newbie-it] Radeon 7500 + monitor LG 520 Si, Dan ha scritto: Interessante Partendo dal fatto che non possiedo un monitor LCD, mi viene da pensare che il programma di configurazione veda solamente l'uscita LCD della mia scheda e non quella CRT, alla quale è collegto il monitor, sarebbe molto strano... il monitor invia un segnale alla scheda video.. se ce l'hai lancia xf86cfg ti apparirà dove è collegato il monitor.. monitor ufficialmente supportato, e scegliendo il driver che automaticamente mi viene indicato come consigliato in fase di installazione, ovvero il RADEON (subito sotto quello chiamato RADEON 8500). Può essere una spiegazione plausibile? vedi con lspci il tuo modello di scheda quindi rigenera a mano XF86Config-4 con xf86config e passa tutti i valori che ti chiede in alternativa, ma è molto rustico, X -configure Ad ogni modo (e scusate l'ignoranza, ma non ho mai usato un sistema UNIX/Linux) come faccio a far partire X in modalità SVGA con comandi da console? puoi sempre entrare con un editor in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 e sostituire alla chiamata al modulo radeon, il modulo vga o vesa o fbdev il primo permette la massima compatibilità ma funziona solo a 256 colori e al massimo a 640*480 (mi pare che riconosca solo 256K di memoria video.. non ho installato i man di xfre.. .) poi hai vesa, il modulo che ti ho suggerito l'altra volta, hai risoluzione svga, quindi puoi intanto lanciare X se t servono i tool grafici l'ultimo è il framebuffer un modo un pò particolare, ma compatibile anche con le caffettiere richiede che la risoluzione sia passata da lilo ... questa è la mia scheda: Identifier Card0 Driver savage ^^^ VendorName S3 BoardName Savage/IX-MV BusID PCI:1:1:0 EndSection il tuo file sarà diverso, ma la sezione è questa Grazie x l'aiuto ragazzi! - -- bye miKe Slackware 8.1 GNU/Linux 2.4.20 @ hp Xe3 R.U.#219755 -- S.R.U.#705 -- R.M.#110932 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj7WUFcACgkQF/9fksDJ4y0EPACgizgd8azY79iUP11L6Ky1syEE bb4AoLIiKpIWGwrmdDx73rvtDXmUHnWo =Wyq4 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it] fetch+proc+mutt+MTA [era:All'attenzione..]
* syd wrote: Nelle prossime mail.. mutt e un po' di MTA (sendmail+ssmtp) E dopo mutt facciamo un ultimo passo dando qualche informazione sulla configurazione di un MTA. Alcune brevi premesse.. Di Mail Tranfert Agent ce ne sono molti in circolazione, ognuno con i suoi pregi e difetti e la scelta di questo o quell'altro dipende naturalmente dalle proprie esigenze e spesso dal fatto che la distribuzione che si usa ne fornisce uno di _default_. Io che uso slackware ho trovato naturale _incasinarmi_ la vita con sendmail ma per un certo periodo ho provicchiato anche la debian e in quel caso ho spulciato exim. Sono molto diffusi anche postfix e Qmail e quest'ultimo e' usato da non poche mailing list (newbie cosa usa? Forse postfix.. bohh..date un'occhiata agli headers). Tutti questi MTA che ho indicato possono essere considerati MTA _completi_ distinguendoli da quelli _ridotti_. Qual e' la differenza? In soldoni possiamo dire che i primi ci permettono di fare della nostra postazione un vero e proprio server smtp e quindi usandoli non abbiamo la necessita' di appoggiarci al server smtp del nostro provider. Quando usiamo kmail et simila e scegliamo nel suo pannello di configurazione di inviare tramite smtp del provider adottiamo evidentemente una scelta diversa. Cosa fa kmail in questi casi? Behh, sempre in soldoni, usera' una sua applicazione interna per delegare al server smtp del provider l'invio delle mail. Un MTA ridotto fa proprio questo: interroga tramite la solita porta 25 il server smtp dell'isp e gli dice d'inviare le nostre mail. Uhmmm.. quindi? Diciamocelo chiaramente: l'uso di un MTA completo per una gestione domestica della posta e' sicuramente una scelta valida ma sproporzionata rispetto all'esigenze da soddisfare. La necessita' di gestire qualcosa di piu' grosso, per esempio il traffico di un(a) intranet locale, e avendo quindi l'esigenza di essere indipendenti rispetto a internet (e di riuiscire a soddisfare importanti obiettivi di sicurezza) ci spinge invece a usare un MTA completo. Ma noi, che siamo smanettoni, in barba a tutto questo papiro di premessa, ci configuriamo bravi bravi il nostro MTA completo e per non fare torto a nessuno ci configuriamo anche un MTA ridotto. Piu' precisamente Sendmail e ssmtp. -- Sendmail Abbiamo due possibilita' per configurare sendmail: o _generiamo_ un rcfile oppure ne prendiamo uno _vanilla_ e lo adattiamo alle nostre specifiche. Non e' detto che la prima tecnica sia quella preferibile dipendendo anche questa volta da quello che vogliamo ottenere. Io non ho mai seguito la procedura della generzione; molto probabilmente lo faro' nei prossimi giorni (uhmmm...) per puro spirito di curiosita' e tra i miei bookmarks ho gia' infilato questo per una lettura di partenza http://linux.cassino.edu/lgei/lgei9810/lgei9810_08.html Niente di esaustivo ma comunque sufficiente per compiere i primi passi. Parliamo quindi della tecnica del _taroccamento_ del file vanilla che viene fornito dalla stessa versione di sendmail che installiamo; generalmente si chiama sendmailcf.example o qualcosa del genere.. una letturina al readme vi spieghera' come rinominarlo e dove infilarlo. Ma infiliamolo pure in /etc/mail/ e rinominiamolo sendmail.cf o sendmail-cf (occhio che il nome da dare dipende dalla versione di sendmail che si usa.. readme sempre alla mano quindi!) Io che uso sendmail 8.11.4 (ancora per poco) ho /etc/mail/sendmail.cf. Non vi allego l'intero file perche' e' gigantesco e incomprensibile.. davvero non avrebbe senso; vi indico invece le modifiche che ho fatto trasformando quindi una configurazione liscia in una configurazione adattata alle mie caratterisctiche di invio posta. Quindi confrontate il file rc che avete sotto mano e ricercate le stringhe che vi indico $ cat /etc/mail/sendmail.cf #il mio indirizzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... ... #il mio POP3 DSout.virgilio.it . . . # # Trusted users # # #Ho aggiunto l'utente syd tra i trusted users Troot Tdaemon Tuucp Tsyd # # Format of headers # # #Ho commentato queste voci cosi' da far comparire nel mio Return-Path #il mio indirizzo (e' necessario poi inviare con l'opzione # -f indirizzo #H?P?Return-Path: $g #HReceived: $?sfrom $s $.$?_($?s$|from $.$_) # $.$?{auth_type}(authenticated$?{auth_ssf} (${auth_ssf} # bits)$.) # $.by $j ($v/$Z)$?r with $r$. id $i$?{tls_version} # (using ${tls_version} with cipher ${cipher} (${cipher_bits} # bits) verified ${verify})$.$?u # for $u; $|; # $.$b . ** * Tutto qui! Sendamil lo richiamo da dentro mutt (al momento dell'invio) mediante questo comando set sendmail = /usr/sbin/sendmail -f [EMAIL PROTECTED] -oem -oi man sendmail per comprendere il
Re: [newbie-it] fetch - fermi tutti! E ora mutt.
Alle Thursday 29 May 2003 16:02, a proposito di Re: [newbie-it] fetch - fermi tutti! E ora mutt. (e chissa' a cosa pensava veramente), Luigi Pinna ha scritto: Il problema che rileggendo il thread non sono riuscito a starvi dietro! Anche perché il thread è cambiato diverse volte, quindi chiedevo un riassunto completo in modo da poter cercare di mettermi anch'io al passo! Sono rimasta indietro anch'io, ma ho fatto cosi': man mano che mi arrivavano le mail le stampavo (oppure le duplichi su una cartella apposita) con tutti i riferimenti per un'eventuale risposta; con calma poi le ho lette, ho fatto le mie prove e, ripescate le mail del thread, ho risposto/chiesto. Adesso mi sono incartata ancora per mancanza di tempo, dunque non ti preoccupare, se ne riparlera'. -- Arwan
Re: [newbie-it] uno scherzo da mutt
Alle Thursday 29 May 2003 16:02, a proposito di Re: [newbie-it] uno scherzo da mutt (e chissa' a cosa pensava veramente), syd ha scritto: Quindi: kamail era aperto quando con mutt navigavi nella dir di kmail? Da quael che ricordo no, in genere chiudo uno e apro l'altro... no sicuro, ora che ci penso, avevo anceh rinominato la cartella di kmail in Mail k Per quanto riguarda la seconda parte della faq.. fregatene! Io nel periodo di transizione da kmail a mutt navigavo senza problemi nei file di kmail e i programmi erano entrambi settati per il formato mbox. Infatti mi sembrava, dai primi test, che non ci fossero problemi... e' stato quando ho creato gli alias di mutt partendo dalle mail di Mail k che e' andato tutto in malora. E inoltre ho recuperato tutto tranne una mail, su una trentina che s'erano sputtanate. -- Arwan
[newbie-it] Re: Rete Linux-Amiga e condivisione della connessione
Ordunque, ho trovato un ftp server (in verità ce ne sono parecchi), quello che ho scaricato si chiama ftp4all. Sorry la domanda, ma l'hai installato sull' Amiga? Sì, certo. il server e' in esecuzione? Bella domanda, come si fa a verificare? (cmq, credo che non fosse in esecuzione, vedi sotto) le directory che cerca esistono? bye Ehm oggi ho messo a dura prova la mia repulsione per l'inglese, ho letto tutta la guida, e ho scoperto che non esiste nessuna delle directories necessarie. Adesso riprovo. Abbiate pazienza!
Re: [newbie-it] fetch - fermi tutti! E ora mutt..
* syd wrote: Rischiamo di duplicare i thread ragazzi. Questo thread è già di per se abbastanza ridondante. Quindi anch'io sono della tua stessa opinione. Ciao, Giuseppe. -- Red Hat Linux 9 (Shrike) Kernel 2.4.20
Re: [newbie-it] Re: OT_Xmms e Mp3
Alle 17:33, giovedì 29 maggio 2003, Germano ha scritto: Scusate se mi intrometto con un pò di ritardo ma volevo dire che arts non è una specie di cancro per i sistemi che usano l'audio ma un sistema molto potente di far girare insieme i molti programmi che richiedono la scheda audio simultaneamente. Il prezzo da pagare è che non è democratico quindi non ti lascia usare direttamente il la scheda. Basta lanciare i programmi preceduti da soundwrapper e questi si sottomettono ad arts senza che l'utente ne abbia a male (anzi...). Non capisco perchè xmms ti abbia dato questo problema, forse lo hai lanciato tu da console? Mandrake usa soundwrapper per lanciare tutti i programmi che usano la scheda in ambiente KDE. interesserebbe anche a me venire a capo di questa cosa... ma ho notato che questo mi sucedeva dalla mdk 8.1 sino alla 9.1 questo mi si verifica anche con la slackware che ,se non sbaglio, non utilizza soundwrapper! secondo me (da grande profano) arts sene frega totalmente degli altri programmi e occupa con processi costantemente la scheda... unica soluzione che avevo trovato , era appunto quella che ho suggerito... se sene trova un altra sarei ben lieto di adottarla. Ciao, Germano -- Ciao , Tom . ~ . / v \ / / \ \ / ( ) \ ^^ ^^ Leggi universali della Societa' Internazionale Tecnici per Tecnici Ingenui: 10. Parti intercambiabili mai. Slack 9.0 Linux user Tattari_manna aka plugs Mauro... un'ammaestratore di liste ... un incubo!
Re: [newbie-it] manutenzione_del_sistema
-- Messaggio originale -- From: Germano [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie-it] manutenzione_del_sistema Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 17:38:37 +0200 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] il 21:54, sabato 24 maggio 2003, si è scritto riguardo a Re: [newbie-it] manutenzione_del_sistema Alle 17:33, sabato 24 maggio 2003, piter ha scritto: Quindi è sufficiente così? Non devo fare nulla? si dovrebbe bastare... ti consiglio di tenere d'occhio /tmp in cui si depositano molti file inutitlizzati. Ogni tot (quando lo spazio occupato cresce) cancella il contenuto.. Ci sono due programmi che sono sempre presenti in mandrake (almeno fino alla 9.0) che si occupano di cancellare i files temporanei e di ordinare e ripulire i files di log e sonon rispettivamente: tmpwatch e logrotate. Spero di aver risposto (se le ho capite) alle domande. Ciao, Germano tmpwatch e logrotate sono esattamente i programmi che cercavo, tmpwatch ha il man in Italiano e forse ho capito come funziona, mentre logrotate che ha il man in Inglese non l'ho capito molto. da shell ho fatto questo: per tmpwatch; #tmpwatch -v 48 /tmp per logrotate; #logrotate /var/log è giusto? se sbaglio qualcuno mi dice dove? grazie a tutti. ciao. keph.
Re: [newbie-it] Re: OT_Xmms e Mp3
il 00:18, venerdì 30 maggio 2003, si è scritto riguardo a Re: [newbie-it] Re: OT_Xmms e Mp3 Alle 17:33, giovedì 29 maggio 2003, Germano ha scritto: Scusate se mi intrometto con un pò di ritardo ma volevo dire che arts non è una specie di cancro per i sistemi che usano l'audio ma un sistema molto potente di far girare insieme i molti programmi che richiedono la scheda audio simultaneamente. Il prezzo da pagare è che non è democratico quindi non ti lascia usare direttamente il la scheda. Basta lanciare i programmi preceduti da soundwrapper e questi si sottomettono ad arts senza che l'utente ne abbia a male (anzi...). Non capisco perchè xmms ti abbia dato questo problema, forse lo hai lanciato tu da console? Mandrake usa soundwrapper per lanciare tutti i programmi che usano la scheda in ambiente KDE. interesserebbe anche a me venire a capo di questa cosa... ma ho notato che questo mi sucedeva dalla mdk 8.1 sino alla 9.1 questo mi si verifica anche con la slackware che ,se non sbaglio, non utilizza soundwrapper! secondo me (da grande profano) arts sene frega totalmente degli altri programmi e occupa con processi costantemente la scheda... unica soluzione che avevo trovato , era appunto quella che ho suggerito... se sene trova un altra sarei ben lieto di adottarla. Ciao, Germano Io uso arts da anni e non mi ha dato mai nessun tipo di problema: ripeto se viene lanciato occupa lui la scheda sonora, quindi qualunque programma che la voglia utilizzare si deve sottomettere; soundwrapper realizza questo. Non so cosa faccia slackware ma la cosa migliore da fare è vedere come le varie distro lanciano i programmi sonori: ho fatto questo con Mandrake ed è facile verificare che i programmi che non sanno come interagire con soundwrapper (xmms è uno di questi) vengono lanciati con soundwrapper. Lo stesso vale per Galeon ma, ad esempio non vale con Xine (basta dirgli che deve usare arts come server). Spero di essere stato chiaro e semmai ci dovessero essere inesattezze sono ben accette eventuali correzioni. Ciao, Germano
Re: [newbie-it] manutenzione_del_sistema
il 09:27, venerdì 30 maggio 2003, si è scritto riguardo a Re: [newbie-it] manutenzione_del_sistema tmpwatch e logrotate sono esattamente i programmi che cercavo, tmpwatch ha il man in Italiano e forse ho capito come funziona, mentre logrotate che ha il man in Inglese non l'ho capito molto. da shell ho fatto questo: per tmpwatch; #tmpwatch -v 48 /tmp per logrotate; #logrotate /var/log è giusto? se sbaglio qualcuno mi dice dove? grazie a tutti. ciao. keph. Attenzione, di solito i programmi sono già ben configurati ed inseriti all'interno della directory /etc/cron.daily (ed eventualmenete altre). Devi solo controllare che cron sia in funzione, che questi programmi siano effettivamente lì dentro e siano eseguibili. A questo punto vedi di capire come sono configurati ed, eventualmente, te li riconfiguri secondo le tue necessità. Se sai come giocare con cron (o secondo me è ancora meglio anacron) li fai partire quando vuoi tu e come meglio credi. Il consiglio è di non lanciarli a manina soprattutto logrotate perchè i files di log dei diversi programmi vogliono (e dovrebbero) essere trattati in maniera diversa. Di solito qualche programma si porta già il suo personale file di configurazione per logrotate (se non hai grandi necessità di ottimizzazione ti dovrebbero perciò bastare); in caso contrario viene adottata una politica predefinita da logrotate (ovviamente modificabile). Spero di essere stato esauriente. Ciao, Germano
[newbie] Mandrake Control Center 9.1 and URPMIs
05/29/03 Hello All, I've been following the URPMI discussions with a great deal of interest, and would like to setup my MDK 9.1 system to take advantage of Internet updating. (Sorry, but coming from Windows and OS/2, this is such a strange and wonderful concept. I still can't get over the novelty of it.) Under Mandrake Control Center is the option to enter the Software Sources Manager. Currently in Software Sources Manager are listed the 7 CDs for my PowerPack distribution. Going into the Configure Sources dialog, I assume I'm going to be *Adding* a source.(Or should I first remove all references to the CDs and simply use the Internet for my source?) Now for the questions: 1) What type of source should I select? FTP Server or HTTP Server, and what is Security Updates about? If I'm using the University of Wisconsin for a mirror site, would I select FTP Server rather than HTTP Server? 2) The Name: prompt. What to use for that? Is there where I'd enter the name of the Mirror site? (the URL for the University of Wisconsin, perhaps?) 3) The Path: prompt. I have no clue about this one. 4) The Relative Path To Synthesis/Hdlist: prompt. No clue for this one either. 5) I can see doing steps 1-4 above for the Main Distribution. Should I then Add entries for Contrib, Updates, and External Sources as shown on the plf.zarb.org website? 6) Once I have all the materials downloaded from the Internet, I speculate I would weekly go back to the Configure Sources dialog and Update the Internet sources I added in the preceding steps. I would then expect to use RpmDrake to install new software and to use Mandrake Update to install the updates to existing software on my machine. Do I have the procedure and concepts down correctly? Thanks for the assistance. One of the main reasons I came to Linux was to be able to keep my OS current without spending an arm and a leg every 2 years. I love having *capacity* and *no limits*, even if I don't use them. Charles Moore's FORTH language is good, but being able to interact with others is better. :) The Other Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Control Center 9.1 and URPMIs
On Thu, 29 May 2003 07:58:01 -0500 The Other [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Thanks for the assistance. One of the main reasons I came to Linux was to be able to keep my OS current without spending an arm and a leg every 2 years. I love having *capacity* and *no limits*, even if I don't use them. Charles Moore's FORTH language is good, but being able to interact with others is better. :) there's a way easier way to do this. go here: http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php if you are not sure you are clear on what you are doing, read man urpmi and associated man pages (listed at bottom of man urpmi). but really, just going to that site will get you all set up! -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net 09:09:05 up 1 day, 22:31, 2 users, load average: 0.01, 0.09, 0.08 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Help!!!!!
Maybe being around a lot of people involved in computer science gives you a different perspective than mine. Most of the people that I come into contact with have never heard of unix and if I speak of Linux often the first thing I hear is oh is that the same company that makes heating and air conditioning equipment ? In my experience it is not as complex as telling people it is not like unix anymore but explaining the difference between a operating system and a program and explaining that not all computers use windoze. If I start to talk about a GUI they think I am talking about how my hands got the last tine I robbed the bees (GOOEY), sticky, covered with honey. LOL Wow it's almost like we live in different worlds but I suppose that in some regards we do. Marc KM5KW On Thursday 29 May 2003 09:01 am, Benjamin Jeeves wrote: I my finishing my degree in computer science in the UK and have finished writing my dissertation on Intrusion Detection Systems which I developed on Linux with open source software. My uni is all Mircosoft pruely because it is what the students have learn before they have come to uni and by only treaching them about Linux and open source will we be about to give people the option of using a different O/S. My point is we need to teach people about Linux and the fact that it is not like Unix any more and has a GUI that this up to Windows and is easyer the windows to install. my 2 cents that all. Benjamin On Thursday 29 May 2003 11:41 am, MARTIN HENDRIK RAD wrote: Long ramble: The migration from Windows to another operating system can be very bewildering for someone who does not have a computer background - like myself. My very first experience with a computer was the Sinclair ZX80 (or something), which plugged into a normal TV set, and the apps were either loaded from a cassette, or typed in line by line (in Basic). After that, some years passed before I encountered a MSDOS machine, where I learned only a handful of commands. The next encounter with computers was at work in the early 90's, using a HP mainframe with some kind of a text-based operating system (no idea what that was, it still does not resemble anything I've seen). That was replaced with pc's with Windows 3.1, a heck of an improvement. At this time, all I knew was that Win 3.1 was a graphical front-end for MSDOS (because you had to log out of Win into DOS). By the time we moved to Win 95, I still did not know what an operating system was. Even when I heard about Linux (in 1998), I did not understand what it was because I did not know what an operating system was. My own perseverance to try and find out just WHAT Linux was, eventually taught me a lot more about computers. But I understand that most people who casually use computers for email and writing docs, simply don't understand anything about operating systems, apps, file systems and the like. If presented with something like KDE, they think it's Windows, but broken. When you explain its Linux they're looking at, they want to know but what does it do?. I had a friend who professed to know nothing about computers, so I showed him what Linux looked like. And then he said: oh, but it's Unix! and he could use it faultlessly in the console-mode. It turns out he did a course in Unix an university, but had never worked on Windows! And so it goes on. I sometimes think it would be impossible to break the stranglehold Microsoft has on the desktop market. Regards, Hendrik Martin -Original Message- From: walt [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 May 2003 21:10 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Help! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Hill Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 1:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just don't use KDE! ROFL, just kidding... -- I know you are just kidding about KDE lol but if we want to get windows users to try linux, KDE is the closest looking thing to use. I do think they should have a serial number though..maybe twice as long as a winxp one.. Walt File: message.footer Disclaimer: http://www.sabc.co.za/disclaimer/emaildisclaimer.htm http://www.sabc.co.za/disclaimer/emaildisclaimer.htm -- Composed on a 100% Microsoft and Windows free computer with Mandrake Linux 9.1 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] No sound
Sorry, I have release 9.1. No idea what 'cooker' means. mike -Original Message- From: Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] No sound Cooker being the key word there...that is NOT a 9.2 release, that is a cooker release and cooker questions/problems should go to the cooker list. Cheers J Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday May 28 2003 06:59 pm, Robin Turner wrote: Adolf, Michael F wrote: Greetings, I just installed Mandrake 9.2 from a download. There's a 9.2? has been for quite some time tom$ cat /etc/mandrake-release Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (Cooker) for i586 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Letter from Novell to SCO
On Thursday 29 May 2003 07:37 am, Technoslick wrote: On Thursday 29 May 2003 12:07 am, Miark graced me with: I'm very impressed with Novell's response, here. They're calling SCO's bluff and holding their feet to the fire to either prove their moronic claims or recant! High marks for Messman on this one. Miark IBM, Novell, now Linus... I've never seen a rabid animal before, but if I had, I think it would act just like SCO is right now. How many different ways can you commit commercial suicide? SCO's rewriting the HOW-TO on it. T Are they committing commercial suicide or is that just the way it appears when mocro$oft uses another company as a pawn? It would be interisting to hear the conversations going on between closed doors the last month but I suppose that we can only guess. Marc KM5KW -- Composed on a 100% Microsoft and Windows free computer with Mandrake Linux 9.1 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] No sound
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerfaq.php3 Google is your friend!! =) Cheers Jason Adolf, Michael F wrote: Sorry, I have release 9.1. No idea what 'cooker' means. mike -Original Message- From: Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] No sound Cooker being the key word there...that is NOT a 9.2 release, that is a cooker release and cooker questions/problems should go to the cooker list. Cheers J Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday May 28 2003 06:59 pm, Robin Turner wrote: Adolf, Michael F wrote: Greetings, I just installed Mandrake 9.2 from a download. There's a 9.2? has been for quite some time tom$ cat /etc/mandrake-release Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (Cooker) for i586 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] motherboard recommendations
On Thursday May 29 2003 03:44 am, John Richard Smith wrote: OK Tom, so you favour Via and AMD, but if money is not in itself a particular problem, though everything has to be reasonably equal, and relative, what would be the best combination of mobo cpu and video card for good graphics, speed and efficiency of FSB etc in Linux, and why ? John I _currently_ favor AMD/VIA. It's a moving target. Intel makes good cpu's but up till the newest i875 chipset, there's been no decent chipsets to run 'em on. Not even VIA's. That could change very soon. I go back'n forth between AMD and Intel. I avoid any other cpu's. There's pros and cons to both AMD and Intel cpus. Intels run cooler, have better thermal protection. AMD's run hot, but due to 3 FPU's per cycle, compared to Intel's 2 FPU's per cycle, AMD's deliver more performance from lower clock rates. They're also cheaper. For video, I believe there's only three valid choices, nVidia, ATI, and Matrox. Which one you choose, would depend on how you intend to use it. All three have good XFree support for 2d, 3d is another issue. As to motherboard, FSB, ram well I'll just say I've been for two years now, usin a KT133a chipset (Soyo board), 1.53 Ghz with 135mhz FSB, oc'd 1.4 Athlon (not an XP), and a mix of old PC100, and PC133 SDram at 135 mhz, Cas2, 4-bank. I see nothin currently out there that would prompt me to upgrade. I suppose if I were to recommend somethin to someone comin from even older hardware that needed to upgrade now, it would be a KT333a or KT400a chipset on a quality board (Asus, Soyo, MSI, Gigabyte, Biostar) and a model and revision that's AMD recommended. Probly at most a 2600+ /333 Athlon XP (this uses a 166mhz FSB). PC2700 cas2 DDR333 SDram (Crucial or Corsair). An AMD approv'd PSU, at least 300 watts. Probly a GeF4 nVidia card usin the XFree driver if 3d/accel is not needed. As you can see none of this is the latest and greatest. Reasons would be for better Linux kernel support, and tried and true hardware with at least six months track record. Stayin just behind the bleeding edge is a lot cheaper. BIOS versions are more likely to have been updated and matured. Same for Linux drivers. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Free-Form Database -- Still Looking
I posted a request for opinions, experience and recommendations on this a while back. I can't remember where it went, but it seemed that I didn't find what I was looking for. So, I wish to ask again for any suggestions and advice on a general purpose free-form database that doesn't have the learning curve of Perl or SQL. The need if for me to maintain an off-line, portable database of bits and pieces of whatever I have learned or found. I want it to be something like askSam, but it doesn't have to be as powerful. Flat is fine, though I would like to be able to create and use hyperlinks within each document. I also don't want to make this manual (like using HTML or XML locally.) Any ideas, suggestions? All welcomed. TIA, T Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Letter from Novell to SCO
On Thursday 29 May 2003 08:27 am, Marc Oestreicher graced me with: snip Are they committing commercial suicide or is that just the way it appears when mocro$oft uses another company as a pawn? It would be interisting to hear the conversations going on between closed doors the last month but I suppose that we can only guess. Hmmmthat does make me wonder now if there's an exchange of monies between M$ and SCO, or maybe future promises, that could make SCO want to spend all this time and money ruining their reputation beyond repair, alienate themselves with every respectable firm in the international computing community. Oh! I just came up with the wildest scenario! M$ is backing SCO behind the scenes with the idea that if they could win some leverage, M$ could step in and buy them out, having the beginning of a lucrative monopoly on UNIX source code. And if SCO fails to achieve any of this, M$ backs away from their dealings leaving SCO to sink beneath the angry mobs and go under as a business...still acquiring them for even less to create their own UNIX/Linux. We know M$ never creates anything, just acquires it. Jeezzz. If I was dreaming this in my sleep, I would classify it as a bona fide nightmare. :-0 T Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Help!!!!!
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc Oestreicher Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 8:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wow it's almost like we live in different worlds but I suppose that in some regards we do. Marc People that use linux tend not to be of the norm. I have been following linux since 1999 and have watched redhat and mandrake evolve. I have tried many different distros. When most people get on a computer, they want it to work the first time, every time. They do not want to have to think about what they are doing. If it doesn't work, re-boot, that will fix it. My first taste with computers was in 1976 when I was 17. I worked in a government computer room, babysitting a Honeywell 700 mainframe. In 1979, I bought a radio shack TRS-80 model 1. I actually used a TRS-model 4D until 1993 because it did everything I needed it to do. I bought a pacard bell computer that had Dos 5.0 in it and windows 3.0 I had a huge hard drive (245 megs). I taught myself Dos because it wasn't too unlike trs-dos. Most people today have no idea what it was like a few years ago with computers. Command line stuff is like a foreign language to them and they don't want to take the time to find out and that is why windows have the advantage. IMOHO Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OPINION
http://www.euobserver.com/index.phtml?aid=11261 Outrageaously shameless sick motherf*ckers over there at the european union headquarter$$, that's all I can say... Just makes me more determined every day though. And i agree: i'm signing every and any petition that goes in the right direction - AND boycotting the moneycrazy - AND putting my (very humble) savings at Triodos Bank (for all you europeans: the only (?) bank with social and ecological standards). The planet's not dying: some people are killing it, and they have names and addresses. And they don't get another cent from me if i can help it. -- Bart Van Audenhove Registered Linux User #314712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Letter from Novell to SCO
Marc Oestreicher wrote: On Thursday 29 May 2003 07:37 am, Technoslick wrote: On Thursday 29 May 2003 12:07 am, Miark graced me with: I'm very impressed with Novell's response, here. They're calling SCO's bluff and holding their feet to the fire to either prove their moronic claims or recant! High marks for Messman on this one. Miark IBM, Novell, now Linus... I've never seen a rabid animal before, but if I had, I think it would act just like SCO is right now. How many different ways can you commit commercial suicide? SCO's rewriting the HOW-TO on it. T Are they committing commercial suicide or is that just the way it appears when mocro$oft uses another company as a pawn? It would be interisting to hear the conversations going on between closed doors the last month but I suppose that we can only guess. Marc KM5KW There will be a secret agreement in writing before any such enterprize that could potentially cripple a company would be entered into, and this would encompass advanced payments to fund the suit, and should the principle antagonist want out it would mean paying for court defined compensation to hurt parties. No one in the right mind would act alone in this fashion against such a behemoth , and what is more you can be sure the antagonist is fully aware of the situation. It also is a measure of the fear felt by that antaginist that it is willingto go to such lengths, but it ought to also ring alarm bells all over the government bodies that oversee monoplistic trading environments in America.It is against such trade practises that they are set up to deal with. This situation rings bells in my mind to the oil major that was broken up in the last great depressionary period when the seven sisters were created out of the single oil major. It also rings true of the breakup of the telephone monopolies. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] problems with BitTorrent
does anyone know where I can download and install BitTorrent for Mandrake 9.0? I found some RPM's at http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=BitTorrent but none of them seem to be installing correctly. Thanks, Thinker Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Help!!!!!
People that use linux tend not to be of the norm. I have been following linux since 1999 and have watched redhat and mandrake evolve. I have tried many different distros. When most people get on a computer, they want it to work the first time, every time. They do not want to have to think about what they are doing. If it doesn't work, re-boot, that will fix it. My first taste with computers was in 1976 when I was 17. I worked in a government computer room, babysitting a Honeywell 700 mainframe. In 1979, I bought a radio shack TRS-80 model 1. I actually used a TRS-model 4D until 1993 because it did everything I needed it to do. I bought a pacard bell computer that had Dos 5.0 in it and windows 3.0 I had a huge hard drive (245 megs). I taught myself Dos because it wasn't too unlike trs-dos. Most people today have no idea what it was like a few years ago with computers. Command line stuff is like a foreign language to them and they don't want to take the time to find out and that is why windows have the advantage. IMOHO Walt Well I can understand how a lot of folks would have that view. Not everyone enjoys learning about computers. A lot of people just want to use them as a tool or a form of entertainment. After all I would guess that most of the people on this list don't want to get a car and then have to learn to be a mechanic, they just want to put un gas and drive. However that does not really give windoze much of a advantage. If a person was to get a computer with Mandrake Linux preinstalled I would guess that it would be as easy to use as a machine with windoze preinstalled and maybe easyer, they would not have to add and update virus protection software or deal with BSOD. Marc KM5KW -- Composed on a 100% Microsoft and Windows free computer with Mandrake Linux 9.1 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OPINION
On Thu, 29 May 2003 15:58:28 +0200 barting [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: http://www.euobserver.com/index.phtml?aid=11261 Outrageaously shameless sick motherf*ckers over there at the european union headquarter$$, that's all I can say... Just makes me more determined every day though. just to play devil's advocate, is there a single distro or sol'n provider that could offer the EU an OS capable of using and interpreting 20 languages? Personally I think it's a pretty lame exuse about the languages thing, it wouldn't take much effort to put together, CMIIW. -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net 10:20:54 up 1 day, 23:43, 2 users, load average: 0.02, 0.01, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Letter from Novell to SCO
IBM, Novell, now Linus... I must have missed something here. Has Linus been drug into this to? I wonder if anyone has thought about sueing Tux? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Letter from Novell to SCO
On Thursday 29 May 2003 09:30 am, Marc Oestreicher graced me with: IBM, Novell, now Linus... I must have missed something here. Has Linus been drug into this to? I wonder if anyone has thought about sueing Tux? Here's the link that Sridhar passed along in an earlier post. Mention made of Linus being taken to task. I skimmed it, but I am sure that the news must be posted many other paces by now. I had the feeling early on that IBM would not be the only one to be harassed. Once you start to point a fingerthat finger travels around. T Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OPINION
On Thursday 29 May 2003 03:58 pm, barting wrote: http://www.euobserver.com/index.phtml?aid=11261 Outrageaously shameless sick motherf*ckers over there at the european union headquarter$$, that's all I can say... Just makes me more determined every day though. In case you don't know, The EU is nothing but the bureaucrat's, lawyer's, desk-weenie's and other *suits*' retaliation against us, the Europeans. The worst-case scenario for those types is freedom and democracy. And this *Harald Rømer* seems to be Danish : Everyone knows that the Danish Government (who appointed him) is *owned* by M$. Kaj Haulrich. -- Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.1 - kernel 2.4.21 Brought to you from my 100 % Micro$oft-free computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] OT: Letter from Novell to SCO
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc Oestreicher Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM, Novell, now Linus... I must have missed something here. Has Linus been drug into this to? I wonder if anyone has thought about sueing Tux? Talked to my lawyer today..Tux is history LOL Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OPINION
On Thursday 29 May 2003 04:24 pm, Joe Hill wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2003 15:58:28 +0200 barting [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: http://www.euobserver.com/index.phtml?aid=11261 Outrageaously shameless sick motherf*ckers over there at the european union headquarter$$, that's all I can say... Just makes me more determined every day though. just to play devil's advocate, is there a single distro or sol'n provider that could offer the EU an OS capable of using and interpreting 20 languages? Personally I think it's a pretty lame exuse about the languages thing, it wouldn't take much effort to put together, CMIIW. It's the worst excuse I've ever seen. Harald Rømer is the European Union's answer to the Iraqi Information Minister. Just point your browser to this page : ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/unix/linux/distributions/Mandrake scroll down, and you'll see every European language represented, not only in aspell, but kde-i18n as well. Furthermore, translating into any language is piece of cake. Kaj Haulrich. -- Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.1 - kernel 2.4.21 Brought to you from my 100 % Micro$oft-free computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Letter from Novell to SCO
On Thursday 29 May 2003 10:42 am, Technoslick graced me with: snip Here's the link that Sridhar passed along in an earlier post. Mention made of Linus being taken to task. I skimmed it, but I am sure that the news must be posted many other paces by now. I had the feeling early on that IBM would not be the only one to be harassed. Once you start to point a fingerthat finger travels around. Stubbid me.. :-( http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsnew_topic=4 Sorry... T Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OPINION
On Thu, 29 May 2003 16:55:43 +0200 Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: scroll down, and you'll see every European language represented, not only in aspell, but kde-i18n as well. Furthermore, translating into any language is piece of cake. what that means is one of three things: 1. he knows he is lying. 2. he doesn't know, in which case he's incompetent (incontinent? impotent?) 3. he's in the pocket os MS. take your pick. from what you wrote b4, the only logical *choice* is 3. -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net 10:52:45 up 2 days, 14 min, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Contrib sources and cooker RPMs
Sorry, I forgot about your N.Hemisphere vocabulary! Translation: Whine whine whine. well, if you lived so close to g duhbulyuh, you'd be whinging too! Where *do* you live, Joe? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OPINION
On Thursday 29 May 2003 04:55 pm, Joe Hill wrote: snip 3. he's in the pocket os MS. take your pick. from what you wrote b4, the only logical *choice* is 3. /snip Exactly ! Kaj Haulrich. -- Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.1 - kernel 2.4.21 Brought to you from my 100 % Micro$oft-free computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] AOL ID
Stephen, Do you have a AOL IM id? I have some offline questions for you. Scott -Original Message- From: Stephen Kuhn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 9:09 PM To: Mandrake Newbie Subject: Re: [newbie] Creating archive On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 18:56, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 28 May 2003 9:33 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Stephen Kuhn wrote: You know, you can just open a Konqueror window, right-click on the directory you want to archive and choose tar from it - it will tar/gzip it for you...just FYI. Not in mine it would seem ? On my right-click menu it offers Bzip2, tar and zip. Can you define the difference, please, Stephen? Anne Well, bzip2 is a tight-compression system, zip is, well, zip, and the tar option actually does a tar/gzip of an archive. I don't have the bzip2, though...hmmm...now that's got me thinking (like I can think with a sore throat, 2% of my brain capacity, 70% of my visual capacity) -- Thu May 29 11:05:00 EST 2003 11:05:00 up 1 day, 13:38, 5 users, load average: 1.10, 1.23, 0.92 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * She can kill all your files; She can freeze with a frown. And a wave of her hand brings the whole system down. And she works on her code until ten after three. She lives like a bat but she's always a hacker to me. -- Apologies to Billy Joel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OPINION
Think his bank account what up by a few 0 in the last few days. On Thursday 29 May 2003 2:47 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Thursday 29 May 2003 03:58 pm, barting wrote: http://www.euobserver.com/index.phtml?aid=11261 Outrageaously shameless sick motherf*ckers over there at the european union headquarter$$, that's all I can say... Just makes me more determined every day though. In case you don't know, The EU is nothing but the bureaucrat's, lawyer's, desk-weenie's and other *suits*' retaliation against us, the Europeans. The worst-case scenario for those types is freedom and democracy. And this *Harald Rømer* seems to be Danish : Everyone knows that the Danish Government (who appointed him) is *owned* by M$. Kaj Haulrich. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Fwd: Re: [newbie] KDE doesn't start
At 15:12 +0200 29/5/03, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Thursday 29 May 2003 02:23 pm, David Bell wrote: snip The RPMS directory on the install CD had lots of 'gnome' related rpms. They all have complex name structures and it's not clear which of them is gnome itself and which are supporting packages. Presumably there are lots of interdependencies. I don't know which one to install. In the light of the complex RPM names it seems to me that rpm -q would fail unless I knew the exact name of the package I'm looking for. So I think the results from running rpm -q are inconclusive. A search on the hard disk for file names containing 'gnome' showed up a whole raft of files which suggests to me that it is in fact installed. In any case, even if I do manage to install the other desktops - or indeed if they're there already - the question remains - how do I pick the one I want from the CLI. /snip Hmm... First things first : Do you have a GUI at all ? If yes, can you proceed to the graphical login ? I yes again, don't you have a choice on the pull-down list other then KDE or *default* ? If No, I suppose you are all alone in a CLI login. In that case, running xtart won't help unless it is installed. Then, install it : find it on your CD , change into that directory, become root at type : *urpmi xtart* ( it's a very nifty program, writting by Civileme. It is meant for cases like yours ). That done, issue the command : *urpmi gnome2* and let's see what happens. Please return to the list and let us know your mileage. Success! As I'd indicated I didn't have a working GUI as the default KDE was refusing to start up. I installed Xtart as you suggested and used to to select Gnome (which was already installed along with a couple of others) and it starts up fine! So there definitely seem to be some issue affecting the default KDE GUI. Thanks for your help. The next problem is trying to sort out the screen resolution! - I'll post the details to a new thread. Thanks David Bell Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] KDE doesn't start
On Thursday 29 May 2003 05:28 pm, David Bell wrote: Thanks for your help. You are welcome. The next problem is trying to sort out the screen resolution! - I'll post the details to a new thread. Now David, open a console, su into root and type : *mcc*. This should launch the Mandrake Control Center. Go to *hardware* --- Monitor (screen resolution) and make your choices. That's all. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.1 - kernel 2.4.21 Brought to you from my 100 % Micro$oft-free computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] No sound
Anne et al., Have been following the thread above and have a personal solution which may or may not help. I decided to remove aumix. I didn't like its default mute. Am using Kmix without any problems. WRT XMMS, it seemed to sort itself out when I configured CD Audio Player 1.2.7 to point to /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd. I am using my CDRW to play music CDs. I have Id Software .cin player 1.2.7, MPEG Layer 1/2/3 Player 1.2.7, Ogg Vorbis Player 1.2.7, Tone Generator 1.2.7 and Wave Player 1.2.7 disabled. Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re: [newbie] Creating archive
I have a windows version of bzip2. It is included with unxutils, a collection of native Win32 ports of various GNU utilities. You can download it at http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ -Original Message- From: _nasturtium [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 19:10:42 +1000 Subject: Re: [newbie] Creating archive On Wed, 28 May 2003 06:56 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 28 May 2003 9:33 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Stephen Kuhn wrote: You know, you can just open a Konqueror window, right-click on the directory you want to archive and choose tar from it - it will tar/gzip it for you...just FYI. Not in mine it would seem ? On my right-click menu it offers Bzip2, tar and zip. Can you define the difference, please, Stephen? Anne I think I'll usurp his job and add my 2 cents... Tar simply puts all the files/directories into a single archive. Zip actually compresses it. Used together you get a .tar.gz, where you get the benefit of archiving an entire directory tree (if you wish) with compression. Bzip2 was written by Julian Seward, it's a block sorting compressor, and on some files you can make them literally 10 times smaller than zips. But not all Windows computers can read them (WinZip can't). Regards, _nasturtium -- _nasturtium [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Please Reply All/cc to avoid mail being lost in filter problems. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Netgear MA 301GR pci wireless configuration/installation trouble
Hi all, I've been having trouble installing this card though I have a similar prism2.5-based card on my laptop working flawlessly. I rebuild Austin Acton's prism2-utils-0.2.0-1mdk.src.rpm and installed it. If I do a modprobe prism2_pci, I get: /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o.gz: init_module: Operation not permitted Hint:... What does this pcmcia module have to do with a pci module? Dependencies? If I check dmesg, I get: ... Linux Kernel Card Services Kernel Version: options: [pci] [cardbus] [pm] ds: no socket drivers loaded! unloading Kernel Card Services ... There it is: pcmcia stuff again. I know I could compile linux-wlan-ng from source and the configure it to not compile the pcmcia drivers but I'd prefer to have a rpm I can later erase. If there's a simple step I'm missing, please let me know. Thanks a lot in advance. Marcio Cordero -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging more http://www.gmx.net +++ Bitte lächeln! Fotogalerie online mit GMX ohne eigene Homepage! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] AOL ID
Stephen Kuhn. -Original Message- From: Burrows, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 11:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] AOL ID Stephen, Do you have a AOL IM id? I have some offline questions for you. Scott -Original Message- From: Stephen Kuhn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 9:09 PM To: Mandrake Newbie Subject: Re: [newbie] Creating archive On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 18:56, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 28 May 2003 9:33 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Stephen Kuhn wrote: You know, you can just open a Konqueror window, right-click on the directory you want to archive and choose tar from it - it will tar/gzip it for you...just FYI. Not in mine it would seem ? On my right-click menu it offers Bzip2, tar and zip. Can you define the difference, please, Stephen? Anne Well, bzip2 is a tight-compression system, zip is, well, zip, and the tar option actually does a tar/gzip of an archive. I don't have the bzip2, though...hmmm...now that's got me thinking (like I can think with a sore throat, 2% of my brain capacity, 70% of my visual capacity) -- Thu May 29 11:05:00 EST 2003 11:05:00 up 1 day, 13:38, 5 users, load average: 1.10, 1.23, 0.92 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * She can kill all your files; She can freeze with a frown. And a wave of her hand brings the whole system down. And she works on her code until ten after three. She lives like a bat but she's always a hacker to me. -- Apologies to Billy Joel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Ximian evolution - viewing international characters
Hi, I've just converted my email to Ximian Evolution from MS Outlook and I have had trouble reading emails that should be readable under iso-8859-6 (the unicode arabic fontset) and the windows-1256 (windows arabic fontset). Currently it seems even if I select one of the languages from the list evolution gives, I still get the wrong fonts / display. For example, greek does not display greek characters but some other font instead - like it is trying to use the wrong font. I upgraded Evolution to v1.4 and the same thing still happens. I think this is to do with gnome and its character displaying and/or fonts, does anyone have any idea what I can try next? I have installed pretty much everything possible from my linux cd's so I don't think it is a missing package (I'm using mandrake 9.1) I have copied over all my truetype fonts from Windows\Fonts directory and I can see them in the gnome font preferences dialog. Arabic is displayed correctly in Mozilla, and also in galeon when I select that encoding. Kmail is able to read the arabic email correctly (but only in the view, and not in the list of email subject headings. I have tried selecting UTF8 and several others on the list Evolution gives, (in the preferences menu, under mail) however this list is not an exhaustive list of fonts on my system, is there a way of updating this? I think Evolution uses GTk2 but I don't know how to alter the fonts Gnome uses, as I am a KDE user. I have tried extensive searching on the net for language, character code, font, and a host of other keywords, but nothing useful.. Searching Ximians support sources provides no help either. So basically the questions I would most appreciate: - Is there a way to make gnome select the appropriate font automatically? - Is there a way to make Ximian Evolution display international characters correctly? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, Thanks Ez Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] No sound
On Thursday 29 May 2003 4:51 pm, Rob Lindsay wrote: Anne et al., Have been following the thread above and have a personal solution which may or may not help. I decided to remove aumix. I didn't like its default mute. Am using Kmix without any problems. WRT XMMS, it seemed to sort itself out when I configured CD Audio Player 1.2.7 to point to /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd. I am using my CDRW to play music CDs. I have Id Software .cin player 1.2.7, MPEG Layer 1/2/3 Player 1.2.7, Ogg Vorbis Player 1.2.7, Tone Generator 1.2.7 and Wave Player 1.2.7 disabled. Rob OK - maybe it's worth a try, at that. For my part, I have no problem with music - it's the system sounds that have become so quiet that I have to use additional 'event' sounds to make sure I hear them. Before going down this road, would anyone care to enlighten me as to why aumix is there? What does it do that kmix can't? I have an audigy sound card, running with oss (the recommendation). Xine and xmms both have good sound. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OPINION
Ühel kenal päeval (Thursday 29 May 2003 06:16) kirjutas Harv Nelson: Harv mounts the soapbox and clears his throat . Here are a couple suggestions you might like to try: 1) Situation from a real life: My friend who got Linux infection from me decided to give it a try and went to buy a new comp for that. From a company named Microlink (guess who they represent here ;-) ) Asks for a comp without an OS. No we dont sell without an OS! OK put some Linux on it, I want to give a try. Eeee OK the box without an OS it will cost you... Wahur Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OPINION
On 29 May 2003 at 15:58, barting wrote: http://www.euobserver.com/index.phtml?aid=11261 Outrageaously shameless sick motherf*ckers over there at the european union headquarter$$, that's all I can say... Just makes me more determined every day though. And i agree: i'm signing every and any petition that goes in the right direction - AND boycotting the moneycrazy - AND putting my (very humble) savings at Triodos Bank (for all you europeans: the only (?) bank with social and ecological standards). The planet's not dying: some people are killing it, and they have names and addresses. And they don't get another cent from me if i can help it. -- Bart Van Audenhove Registered Linux User #314712 Thanks for drawing this to my attention. The comment that they wanted a safe system that was able to use up to 20 languages demostarted the ignorance of the Deputy-General. I went to the site followed the links to 'e-vote', went through the questionnaire. Right at the end there is a comments section where I was able to make a comparison with the Munich situation, complain about MY money being wasted, query the organisation that allowed informed judgement to be overturned by appointees (rather than elected representatives), and ask what other areas that I didn't know about were being affected. Not much, but maybe? Paul M. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Greetings to the mandrake community!
After more than 10 years as a Windows user, and MFC,VC++,Delphi,pocket pc eVC hobbie programmer I want to welcome myshelf to the FREE linux community! I decided to make a jump to the mandrake linux environment!!! My first try is Mandrake 9.0. I am pretty happy with its KDE interface and all the programs that I can use. I start to explore the potentials of Kdevelop with GCC too I am an over the medium windows user, but some things are too complicated to know, because on a windows pc I learned just to NOT care and leave the OS do the job. I have many minor problems that took me hours of usage to understand on linux but I try to take one step at a time. I will post many questions on this forum, hoping to give me some help in many circumstances that I came to. A big welcome to me,,, a newbie user Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] problem with mounting a FAT32 disk
problem #1: I added a harddisk 40GB formatted with FAT32. I mounted on /mnt/movable just fine. Question : How can I make it writeable? The HD mounts itshelf in readonly mode, I cannot enable write access with root privilege. koppermind. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] problem with internet networking.
problem #2: When I dialup with kppp I connect fine with my modem. The prolem is that sometimes (most of the times after a restart), the name resolving doesn't work. I found after many hours of searching that every time after a restart I have to go to mandrake control center and DISABLE the ICS on network. After that the system works fine with internet. Any ideas how to prevent this? (I don't use ICS, I installed a proxy server to add internet in an XP machine and works fine). koppermind Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] problem #3 SAMBA occasionally not working.
Sometimes (I don't know exactly when), the samba server (maybe after a restart) stops working. Even if the service runs fine I cannot browse to the SMB workgroup I installed. After some restarts in smb service the network comes alive until the next boot. Any ideas? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] problem with SAMBA: XP user cannot have access.
Hi, to a well working samba system, an XP user that is connected to mandrakePC cannot have access to Samba Server in workgroup even he can see the icon in workgroup list of WinXP. Any help? koppermind. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] problem: XawTV
Hi, the default icon with command /usr/bin/XawTV -c /dev/v4l/video0 doesn't open anymore the tvcard screen. I made a new icon with command /usr/bin/XawTV that works fine!! Why does it happen this problem? koppermind Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] serious problem : LILO
After the installation of nvidia driver I cannot enter to KDE with the linux or linux-nofb selection in LILO. The system loads up until text mode login. after that the X server fails with kstart or X. the only way to come in to graphical desktop KDE is failsafe option , and select graphical desktop from the Linuxconf menu. The weird is that the nvidia driver in this mode works fine!!! I have hardware opengl support (and logo from nvidia)(played NWN fine!)!. questions: 1. Does the failsafe mode adds system DISfunctionality? (like the safe mode of Windows?) 2, How can I solve this problem even if there is no problem with booting with that option. please help,, and thanks in advance. koppermind Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Steve Ballmer: No sleep lost over Linux
Stephen Kuhn wrote: Kinda old, but I just found this - thought it might be of interest to some of y'all...actually quite funny when you think about it... http://www.zdnet.com.au/newstech/os/story/0,248630,20274086,00.htm Ballmer is such a bafoon! -- Mark The definition of stupid is doing something the same way twice and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein -- Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 9.1 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Ximian evolution - viewing international characters
Hi, I've just converted my email to Ximian Evolution from MS Outlook and I have had trouble reading emails that should be readable under iso-8859-6 (the unicode arabic fontset) and the windows-1256 (windows arabic fontset). Currently it seems even if I select one of the languages from the list evolution gives, I still get the wrong fonts / display. For example, greek does not display greek characters but some other font instead - like it is trying to use the wrong font. I upgraded Evolution to v1.4 and the same thing still happens. I think this is to do with gnome and its character displaying and/or fonts, does anyone have any idea what I can try next? I have installed pretty much everything possible from my linux cd's so I don't think it is a missing package (I'm using mandrake 9.1) I have copied over all my truetype fonts from Windows\Fonts directory and I can see them in the gnome font preferences dialog. Arabic is displayed correctly in Mozilla, and also in galeon when I select that encoding. Kmail is able to read the arabic email correctly (but only in the view, and not in the list of email subject headings. I have tried selecting UTF8 and several others on the list Evolution gives, (in the preferences menu, under mail) however this list is not an exhaustive list of fonts on my system, is there a way of updating this? I think Evolution uses GTk2 but I don't know how to alter the fonts Gnome uses, as I am a KDE user. I have tried extensive searching on the net for language, character code, font, and a host of other keywords, but nothing useful.. Searching Ximians support sources provides no help either. So basically the questions I would most appreciate: - Is there a way to make gnome select the appropriate font or language automatically? - Is there a way to make Ximian Evolution display international characters correctly? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, Thanks Ez Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] ARTICLE: Steve Ballmer: No sleep lost over Linux
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Weaver Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 4:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stephen Kuhn wrote: Kinda old, but I just found this - thought it might be of interest to some of y'all...actually quite funny when you think about it... http://www.zdnet.com.au/newstech/os/story/0,248630,20274086,00.htm Ballmer is such a bafoon! -- Mark I liked this part of the article LOL: Linux itself is a clone of an operating system that is 20-plus years old. That's what it is. That is what you can get today, a clone of a 20-year-old system. I'm not saying that it doesn't have some place for some customers, but that is not an innovative proposition. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Sylpheed keyboard focus
In KMail, I could use + to go to the next unread message, and Page Up and Down within it. In Sylpheed, shift-N goes to the next unread, but Page Down works within the message list not the message. Is there an easy way to jump to each unread message, and then page within it using only the keyboard? Also, how many messages can I keep in a folder before Sylpheed has problems (I'm at 7500 and counting...)? Richard -- Registered Linux user 246658 at http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] question about network shares.
I forgot to ask ,in my previous questions the following: Let's say that I have a harddisk FAT32 in /mnt/disk1 How can I make it shared in networking? The system says that I can make shares only in the /home directory. koppermind Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] URPMI description install
Hi I was wondering if there was a way to make URPMI install RPMs who's descrption contains a particular word ie game I can do it in Sortware Install however it has issues when my ISP disconects me every two hours so I prefer using the command line. Thanks Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] *Fast* file contents search tool?
Hello Derek, Wednesday, May 28, 2003, 2:40:02 AM, you wrote: In konquerer file manager: tools - find file :) HTH, -Frans DJ Isn't that just a brute force 'Look at every file' search? It certainly takes DJ a long time. I tried that and it does take a VERY long time if you look for text inside files. After it finds the files, you seem to have to open each one, then find the text inside the file. This takes even more time. I'm spoiled by dtSearch which takes a second or two to visually display every match in 50,000+ files. DJ Rikonia is looking for a graphical way of searching the slocate database. True. Actually, the graphic part that would be nice is to be able to see each 'chunk' of found text, HTML, etc, as you scroll through the matches that were found. Scrolling through a couple of hundred matches this way is quick - opening a couple of hundred items and then finding the text inside is very slow. This is the most attractive part. -- Thank you, rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Help!!!!!
On Thursday 29 May 2003 08:19, Marc Oestreicher wrote: Wow it's almost like we live in different worlds but I suppose that in some regards we do. Yes, I was talking with two guys yesterday who are pretty computer literate. At least they had heard of Linux, but they knew absolutely nothing about it. One asked, what company makes that, anyway? and neither had heard of Linus Torvalds! *** Powered by SuSE Linux 8.0 Professional KDE 3.0.0 KMail 1.4 This is a Microsoft-free computer Bryan S. Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] motherboard recommendations
On Thursday 29 May 2003 01:05 pm, John Drouhard wrote: How about an AOpen AK77-8XN? It isn't too expensive, has 8x AGP support and the KT400 chipset. I am thinking about pairing it with an Athlon 2200+ and oc'ing it with Greg's advice. Does this sound good with a Radeon 9500 Pro? I do know that the newest drivers are supposed to work real good with WineX, which i use. Or does anyone think that DirectX 9.0 will really matter. Otherwise I'll go with the Nvidia Geforce4 Ti 4400. I think any KT400 board should do. If you want to be sure on the video, get nVidia. You never said if you were going to dual-boot windows, but if you're not, will dx9 really matter? If you OC the 2200+ your potentially going to have a problem because if you move to 166fsb, you're going to have to drop the multiplier, and to do that with the Athlon over 2100+ you have to make a chip mod, a small one, but you'd still have to do it. The other option is to leave the fsb at 133 and just increase the multiplier. Also, don't expect the same kind of performance boost with the 2200+ than I got with the 1700+. a nearly 50% overclock like that has pretty much been reserved for the 1700+ because it is a very special chip. Moral of the story, read up and make sure you are comfortable with what you are doing because there are no guarantees. If you know what you are doing, it is pretty easy, but if you try to approach it without gaining any knowledge, you could very well fry something. Start here and watch the wrap. http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?s=6dda6dfbae7758831b59bd69ca39a7e1forumid=3 -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Help!!!!!
That is because we pay and you people in up there have more better usage of the money that Brunel uni paid M$. If you put Linux in are IS department there would think there have moved. So for the better teachers and PHD students do use Linux but that is it. On Thursday 29 May 2003 10:19 pm, Michael Lothian wrote: Blimey what uni do you go to. Here at Edinbugh we have Windows for the arts students and Linux for us Infomatics students, LOL. Any way that my 2 pennies. Mike Benjamin Jeeves wrote: I my finishing my degree in computer science in the UK and have finished writing my dissertation on Intrusion Detection Systems which I developed on Linux with open source software. My uni is all Mircosoft pruely because it is what the students have learn before they have come to uni and by only treaching them about Linux and open source will we be about to give people the option of using a different O/S. My point is we need to teach people about Linux and the fact that it is not like Unix any more and has a GUI that this up to Windows and is easyer the windows to install. my 2 cents that all. Benjamin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] serious problem : LILO
On Fri, 30 May 2003 01:06:11 +0300 manolis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the Nvidia file is: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4363.run I also update the line of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file as the installation readme proposes: Driver nv Driver nvidia I think you need these parts of XF86Config-4. I repeat that the X starts fine with failsafe mode (nvidialogo) but not with the default linux mode. Section Module Load dbe # Double-Buffering Extension Load v4l # Video for Linux Load extmod Load type1 Load freetype Load glx # 3D layer EndSection Section Device Identifier device1 VendorName nVidia Corporation BoardName NVIDIA GeForce3 (generic) Driver nvidia Option DPMS Option NvAGP 1 #---right here EndSection I do know that if it's an AGP card, you have to add one line to the file. See above for the modification. HTH John Drouhard -- Thu May 29 18:20:34 UTC 2003 18:20:34 up 8:58, 2 users, load average: 0.02, 0.05, 0.07 - They told me to install Windows 98 or better, so I installed Linux. Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] serious problem : LILO
On Thursday 29 May 2003 06:12 pm, manolis wrote: 30 2003 01:06, / manolis : 30 2003 00:57, / Greg Meyer : On Thursday 29 May 2003 04:51 pm, manolis wrote: After the installation of nvidia driver I cannot enter to KDE with the linux or linux-nofb selection in LILO. The system loads up until text mode login. after that the X server fails with kstart or X. the only way to come in to graphical desktop KDE is failsafe option , and select graphical desktop from the Linuxconf menu. The weird is that the nvidia driver in this mode works fine!!! I have hardware opengl support (and logo from nvidia)(played NWN fine!)!. questions: 1. Does the failsafe mode adds system DISfunctionality? (like the safe mode of Windows?) 2, How can I solve this problem even if there is no problem with booting with that option. Well, from my experience with this group, you should get answers to most of your questions relatively quickly. This particular problem is not a problem with LILO, but with the loading of the nvidia driver. Could you give us some more info about your hardware, like specific motherboard and video card, which nVidia RPMS you used and and include a copy of your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file. the Nvidia file is: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4363.run The driver I used Pentium III 933 Mhz ASUS Geforce3 64MB I have a GeForce3 also. I am going to have to defer here to someone else, because I have the same drivers with the same video card and they work fine for me. My XF86Config-4 file agrees with yours too. Sorry I can't help. Also try a usenet search with google. Anybody? -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] serious problem : LILO
On Thursday 29 May 2003 02:22 pm, John Drouhard wrote: Section Device Identifier device1 VendorName nVidia Corporation BoardName NVIDIA GeForce3 (generic) Driver nvidia Option DPMS Option NvAGP 1 #---right here EndSection I do know that if it's an AGP card, you have to add one line to the file. See above for the modification. Yes, I have that too. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] motherboard recommendations
On Thu, 29 May 2003 19:22:14 -0400 Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think any KT400 board should do. If you want to be sure on the video, get nVidia. You never said if you were going to dual-boot windows, but if you're not, will dx9 really matter? I am dual booting windows, but thats besides the point. I want to have full compatibility with upcoming games. I will be playing them through winex, and I'm sure that most upcoming games will use Directx 9.0. Maybe then I should go for a GeForce FX 5600 Ultra. I didn't particularly want an FX though If you OC the 2200+ your potentially going to have a problem because if you move to 166fsb, you're going to have to drop the multiplier, and to do that with the Athlon over 2100+ you have to make a chip mod, a small one, but you'd still have to do it. The other option is to leave the fsb at 133 and just increase the multiplier. Also, don't expect the same kind of performance boost with the 2200+ than I got with the 1700+. a nearly 50% overclock like that has pretty much been reserved for the 1700+ because it is a very special chip. Moral of the story, read up and make sure you are comfortable with what you are doing because there are no guarantees. If you know what you are doing, it is pretty easy, but if you try to approach it without gaining any knowledge, you could very well fry something. Ok, that puts the 2200+ out of the question. About your 1700+, does it perform the same as a non oc'd 2400+ would perform? And if not, about how does it perform in comparison to another Athlon? Start here and watch the wrap. http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?s=6dda6dfbae7758831b59bd69ca39a7e1forumid=3 Thanks for the link, they seem to suggest the 1700+ as the most bang for buck. Thanks for all this helpful info guys. You have really weighed heavily in my decision for a motherboard / cpu combo. Thanks again! John Drouhard -- Thu May 29 18:36:42 UTC 2003 - They told me to install Windows 98 or better, so I installed Linux. Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] *Fast* file contents search tool?
Hello Derek, Wednesday, May 28, 2003, 4:00:38 AM, you wrote: DJ kio_locate - A kio slave plug in for konqueror. There is an RPM in DJ contrib and in texstar so 'urpmi kio_locate' is all you need to DJ install it. I was looking around for this but couldn't find it. I found several references to 'contrib' files, but almost all 9.0 ones are empty or no longer there. Did everyone convert to 9.1? Perhaps you could give me the pointer. -- Thank you, rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] motherboard recommendations
On Thursday 29 May 2003 02:43 pm, John Drouhard wrote: About your 1700+, does it perform the same as a non oc'd 2400+ would perform? Yes, for all intents and purposes, it is a 2400+. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Evolution for 9.1?
Have you tried using Red Carpet by Ximian. I'm a big n00b when it comes to Linux and I've found that Redcarpet seems to solve most depency issues for me. Just a thought. http://www.ximian.org Shaun W. Grogan -Original Message- From: Marco Verheul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Evolution for 9.1? Hi, I just installed 9.1 and i want to set up my system. I was using Evolution in 9.0 but I can't seem to find the right version. Does anybody has Evolution running in 9.1? When I try to install the beta stuff I get all kinds of dependency errors. Marco Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] *Fast* file contents search tool?
Hello Derek, Wednesday, May 28, 2003, 7:25:43 AM, you wrote: DJ I managed to compile klocate2 for Mandrake 9.1 Would this work for 9.0 also? I've never tried to compile anything (being a complete newbie). Is there a 'compiling for dummies' writeup anywhere? If not, perhaps you could say how to do it for klocate2 - it is often helpful to try a specific example to learn how to do something. -- Thank you, rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] *Fast* file contents search tool?
Hello Derek, Wednesday, May 28, 2003, 7:25:43 AM, you wrote: DJ I managed to compile klocate2 for Mandrake 9.1 Would this work for 9.0 also? I've never tried to compile anything (being a complete newbie). Is there a 'compiling for dummies' writeup anywhere? If not, perhaps you could say how to do it for klocate2 - it is often helpful to try a specific example to learn how to do something. -- Thank you, rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] motherboard recommendations
At 07:48 PM 5/28/2003 -0500, you wrote: On Wednesday May 28 2003 06:45 pm, FemmeFatale wrote: http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4c800-d/overview.htm i have that board. has more than I need + an upgrade path. - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt I've read that the newest i875 chipset is decent. Please keep us posted about Linux support. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Only trouble I had is having to install my Gigabit drivers from teh accompanying CD for the mobo itself. Has drivers on it. Strangely I cannot find updated/other drivers for this 3com built-in NIC. Has built-in sound too...which I don't use. Stable even OCed to 2.8ghz. I'm happy...but i'd love to OC it more with more cooling if possible. Dunno if I will. Shrugs. If someone finds other drivers let me know though for hte GB NIC. :) - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] motherboard recommendations
At 09:44 AM 5/29/2003 +0100, you wrote: OK Tom, so you favour Via and AMD, but if money is not in itself a particular problem, though everything has to be reasonably equal, and relative, what would be the best combination of mobo cpu and video card for good graphics, speed and efficiency of FSB etc in Linux, and why ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asus P4T533-C Mobo or mine the P4C800 DX, 2.5ghz cpu *best bang for buck*, plus all this has room to upgrade. Grafx: Nvidia or ATI doesn't matter. If you want (like me) bleeding edge cause you game a radeon 9700 Pro or 9800Pro. Either will be fine but 3d for Linux gaming won't work well yet. For windows, its fine if you dual boot. Support for linux with these components is very good...all those companies provide linux only drivers some amount of tech support in their forums such. I hate AMD b/c I don't find their stuff stable it tends to overheat. Just my opinion mind you. And i've seen nothing but problems with VIA's last chipsets...for the PIII's the ViA's rocked. For a P4 I won't trust them. Again, IMO. No humbling though...sorry... i gave it up for Lent. :D - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] motherboard recommendations
At 06:43 PM 5/29/2003 +, you wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2003 19:22:14 -0400 snip I am dual booting windows, but thats besides the point. I want to have full compatibility with upcoming games. I will be playing them through winex, and I'm sure that most upcoming games will use Directx 9.0. Maybe then I should go for a GeForce FX 5600 Ultra. I didn't particularly want an FX though FX=FuXers they suck...ATI rules right now... doesn't take up 2 slots (Yes an FX takes the AGP slot + adjoining pci slot cause its cooling solution is so large...pfft.. POS). ATI's 9700 9800's are faster, built better don't take up that much room. No i'm not a fangirl, i take the best the world in video has to offer at the time. For a while I used nvidia. Now i'll use ATI. Next who knows? - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] IsTwo monitors possible?
At 07:10 PM 5/29/2003 -0300, you wrote: Femme: Is this your site: http://sweet-dreamz.net/crazed/ Don't have one. sorry. - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] motherboard recommendations
On Thursday 29 May 2003 02:43 pm, John Drouhard wrote: I am dual booting windows, but thats besides the point. I want to have full compatibility with upcoming games. I will be playing them through winex, and I'm sure that most upcoming games will use Directx 9.0. Maybe then I should go for a GeForce FX 5600 Ultra. I didn't particularly want an FX though The ATI support will probably get better in the future. Just don't expect not to have problems now if you get one. It may not be until 9.2 that it works really well, so kernel/X issues can be worked out and ATI can catch up on the binary drivers. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Ok another address change
Ok people... this is Kit again of [EMAIL PROTECTED] fame...lol I'm now connected to DSL under verizon service. I'm setting up linux mandrake 9.0 right now... and later 9.1 (after downloading it) this is the config ihave right this moment: a windows 2000 pro machine, networked with 2 other w2k pro machines, and a mandrake linux only machine using a INTEL InBusiness 5 port hub. every machine sees each other...but only the DSL connection is on the windows 2k pro setup with verizon DSL. I'm trying to get linux to now see the windows box...so that i can then setup the dsl connection to share with the windows boxes... I would appreciate some help with this...anyone care to lend a hand? KVP-PC Staff http://www.kvp-pc.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] URPMI description install
On Thursday 29 May 2003 05:34 pm, Michael Lothian wrote: Hi I was wondering if there was a way to make URPMI install RPMs who's descrption contains a particular word ie game I can do it in Sortware Install however it has issues when my ISP disconects me every two hours so I prefer using the command line. Thanks Mike Not sure, have never tried it but you might try urpmi *game* and see what happens. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] Support questions
Hello Greg, Tuesday, May 27, 2003, 5:40:20 PM, you wrote: GM On Tuesday 27 May 2003 08:16 pm, rikona wrote: First, I'd like to thank you for the explanation. It was very helpful, and had places I didn't know about. GM MandrakeExpert is a site where one can get paid for support, where GM a MandrakeSoft employee or support representative is assigned to GM your incident and hopefully provides a solution. If I understand the site correctly, this is the place where 'package' support has migrated. However, there does not seem to be a place to register a purchased box to get the support. When I try to register, I get to sign in, but there does not seem to be a way to actually 'register' and thus not pay if you have already bought a box, as I have. The non-paid requests seem to sit there for a very lgg time. :-) GM Any which way you support Mandrake, by buying a box, joining the GM Club, purchasing incidents or making a donation, it all goes to GM support an excellent software product and helps to keep GM development going. Agreed - I will probably join the club after my 'box' support expires (assuming I can even activate this in the first place, and get some support). -- Thank you, rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] URPMI description install
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi *game* dd d d d d d d d d dno package named *game* [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# dd PS: the ds are me seeing of the program was responding ;) At 07:33 PM 5/29/2003 -0500, you wrote: On Thursday 29 May 2003 05:34 pm, Michael Lothian wrote: Hi I was wondering if there was a way to make URPMI install RPMs who's descrption contains a particular word ie game I can do it in Sortware Install however it has issues when my ISP disconects me every two hours so I prefer using the command line. Thanks Mike Not sure, have never tried it but you might try urpmi *game* and see what happens. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS! | | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++
Re: Re[2]: [newbie] *Fast* file contents search tool?
On Friday 30 May 2003 12:51 am, rikona wrote: Hello Derek, DJ kio_locate - A kio slave plug in for konqueror. There is an RPM in DJ contrib and in texstar so 'urpmi kio_locate' is all you need to DJ install it. I was looking around for this but couldn't find it. I found several references to 'contrib' files, but almost all 9.0 ones are empty or no longer there. Did everyone convert to 9.1? Perhaps you could give me the pointer. I could not find a contrib source for 9.0 either. They seem to be vanishing off the servers. So yes.. most people have converted to 9.1 Wednesday, May 28, 2003, 7:25:43 AM, you wrote: DJ I managed to compile klocate2 for Mandrake 9.1 Would this work for 9.0 also? Probably not. Mandrake 9.1 uses a different compiler version to 9.0, and the package will have been compiled assuming all the 9.1 KDE libraries are present. If you tried installing it in 9.0 you would probably get a lot of dependency errors. But by all means try it. The worst that can happen is it will refuse to install. I've never tried to compile anything (being a complete newbie). Is there a 'compiling for dummies' writeup anywhere? If not, perhaps you could say how to do it for klocate2 - it is often helpful to try a specific example to learn how to do something. I am sure there are good writeups available. The linux documentation project is a good place to start http://www.tldp.org/tldp-redirect.php?url=/ There is also good info in the Mandrake documentation http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/fdoc.php3 There are two basic ways to compile an app. In the first you start off with a 'tarball' (A .tar.gz compressed file) containing the source code. You run ./configure to configure it for your environment, and then 'make' to compile it, and 'make install' to install it. That sounds easy, but during the configure stage it will check you have all the correct development libraries installed, and it can take some time to track them all down. (They will almost always be on your CDs) The other issue is that anything installed this way will not show up in the package database which can cause confusion when you add/upgrade packages later. The second method is to download a .src.rpm of the package you want. A .src.rpm contains the source code, and a 'spec' file which tells your compiler how to build it. You simply run the command 'rpm --rebuild package_name.src.rpm' and it will compile the package and create a regular rpm package compiled for your specific environment. The bad news is you still need all the correct compilers and development libraries installed. The error messages will often refer to missing file names. The 'urpmf' command is very useful to find out in which development package those files can be found. See 'man urpmf' and 'man rpm' Its a bit late now, but tomorrow I will put a src.rpm of klocate2 up on my server for you to practice with derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[3]: [newbie] Oops - what happened?
Hello FemmeFatale, Tuesday, May 27, 2003, 10:25:02 PM, you wrote: F See Attachment for explanations. This might help if I do get a freeze. Nice to know. -- Thank you, rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[5]: [newbie] Oops - what happened?
Hello bascule, Tuesday, May 27, 2003, 11:13:42 PM, you wrote: b to get the 'process bar' back press alt-f2 and type 'kicker', this b should bring back the panel at the bottom That would have helped a lot - thanks. -- Thank you, rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Greetings to the mandrake community!
On Thu, 29 May 2003 23:31:27 +0300 manolis [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I will post many questions on this forum, hoping to give me some help in many circumstances that I came to. A big welcome to me,,, a newbie user Hail and well met! Stephen Kuhn will be answering most of your questions, ROFL...tho the past few days M Brinkman has been writing like a madman...er :D -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net 16:32:54 up 2 days, 5:55, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Greetings to the mandrake community!
At 04:34 PM 5/29/2003 -0400, you wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2003 23:31:27 +0300 manolis [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I will post many questions on this forum, hoping to give me some help in many circumstances that I came to. A big welcome to me,,, a newbie user We were all newbies at one point. I have little knowledge, but sometimes i can get a quicker answer out then the rest (sorry, but it's ture) Hail and well met! Stephen Kuhn will be answering most of your questions, ROFL...tho the past few days M Brinkman has been writing like a madman...er What about you? :D -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net 16:32:54 up 2 days, 5:55, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS! | | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++
Re: [newbie] Ok another address change
On Thursday 29 May 2003 07:32 pm, KVPSTAFF wrote: Ok people... this is Kit again of [EMAIL PROTECTED] fame...lol I'm now connected to DSL under verizon service. I'm setting up linux mandrake 9.0 right now... and later 9.1 (after downloading it) this is the config ihave right this moment: a windows 2000 pro machine, networked with 2 other w2k pro machines, and a mandrake linux only machine using a INTEL InBusiness 5 port hub. every machine sees each other...but only the DSL connection is on the windows 2k pro setup with verizon DSL. I'm trying to get linux to now see the windows box...so that i can then setup the dsl connection to share with the windows boxes... I would appreciate some help with this...anyone care to lend a hand? KVP-PC Staff http://www.kvp-pc.com In my humble opinion, you are better off using the linux box as the gateway and enabling connection sharing in MCC. It is easier to set up as far as I am concerned. But you have the Modem in the windows box so you should be able to go to internet connection and inable sharing from there. I would use internal static IPs but that's just me. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ok another address change
On Fri, 2003-05-30 at 00:32, KVPSTAFF wrote: Ok people... this is Kit again of [EMAIL PROTECTED] fame...lol I'm now connected to DSL under verizon service. I'm setting up linux mandrake 9.0 right now... and later 9.1 (after downloading it) this is the config ihave right this moment: a windows 2000 pro machine, networked with 2 other w2k pro machines, and a mandrake linux only machine using a INTEL InBusiness 5 port hub. every machine sees each other...but only the DSL connection is on the windows 2k pro setup with verizon DSL. I'm trying to get linux to now see the windows box...so that i can then setup the dsl connection to share with the windows boxes... I would appreciate some help with this...anyone care to lend a hand? KVP-PC Staff http://www.kvp-pc.com Let's ignore for the moment the fact that it would make more sense for you to connect the linux machine to the DSL and use it as a gateway and firewall for the windoze clients. Maybe that can be version 2. If DSL is working from W2K, all you need to do is switch on internet connection sharing there and then set the address of that machine as the gateway for your linux box. You can set the gateway address using the control center, using the internet connection wizard. You will also need the address(es) of the DNS inserted into a file called: /etc/resolv.conf It should look like: nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx The first address is that of the primary DNS, then the secondary. You can have as many of these as your ISP provides. That's all that's required, but as said above, it would make a lot more sense to front-end with linux. Is your DSL modem ethernet connected or USB? If it's ethernet, then getting the linux gateway config going is really easy. If USB, then the answer is always it depends. Anyway, make a start and post more questions. You'll find plenty of people here who can help you make this work. HTH Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Greetings to the mandrake community!
On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 20:34, Joe Hill wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2003 23:31:27 +0300 manolis [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I will post many questions on this forum, hoping to give me some help in many circumstances that I came to. A big welcome to me,,, a newbie user Hail and well met! Stephen Kuhn will be answering most of your questions, ROFL...tho the past few days M Brinkman has been writing like a madman...er :D hey! I got to answer one before Stephen! Major coup :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com