Re: [newbie-it] motherboard ecs k7s5a non suona aiuto!

2003-06-17 Thread fabio
Alle 22:20, lunedì 16 giugno 2003, paolo brusasco ha scritto:
 scusa ma veramente non so bene cosa sia il pcm. penso sia il volume
 principale
 quando lancio kmix mi compare una piccola icona di altoparlante in basso
 a destra. se clicco tale icona mi compare un cursore che è al massimo.
 come dicevo, tutti i volumi di kmix sono al massimo e tutte le lucine
 sono verdi.
 peraltro sul mio pc (un'ottima mother MSI) nel menu K alla voce
 multimedia-audio ho aumix e non kmix.
 nella installazione incriminata alla voce multimedia-audio ho una
 sbrodolata di roba (non ce l'ho sott'occhio adesso) tra cui kmix che è
 quello con cui ho verificato i volumi.
 grazie.

 freefred wrote:
 ...
Verifica il volume con aumix, alza tutte le barre al massimo (100) e prova a 
far suonare un CD o un mp3.
bye




Re: [newbie-it] gpg

2003-06-17 Thread Luigi Pinna
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 hai già provato a dare
 gpg --edit-key ..
 e quindi segnare l' uid che vuoi come predefinito  con 'uid 3 '
 e dargli 'primary'  ?

No, non avevo provato! Adesso funziona (ho appena fatto una prova).
Grazie!
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[newbie-it] compatibilit#224; hardware

2003-06-17 Thread Enrico Teotti
ciao,
devo cambiare PC cosi ho controllato sul sito mandrake se i componenti che ho scelto 
fossero supportati.
La scheda madre una asus A7V8X nn c'#232; per niente, cosa devo pensare?
Mentre riguardo al lettore DVD LG 8160B oltre a non esserci, se faccio una ricerca su 
tutte le marche e senza filtri trovo un elenco di prodotti ma nessuno supportato.

Come devo interpretare i dati del DB hardware? La scheda madre che ho scelto?

Grazie mille dei parere!




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[newbie-it] mutt: Ssssyyyyyyyddddd!!!!!!

2003-06-17 Thread Giuseppe Ferruzzi

 
* syd ha scritto:
 6) schiacciare m per scrivere una nuova mail (avrai quindi gli
 headers nuovi di zecca)
 
 A questo punto usando vim o vi sei gia' in modalita' _esecuzione
 comando_ quindi scrivi
 
 7):r!cat /home/arwan/nomecorpodellamaildatescelto
 
 ti comparira' nella nuova mail il corpo della vecchia.
 Hai semplicemente sfruttato una feature di vim che tramite il comando r!
 ti permette di direzionare l'output di un qualsiasi comando
 all'interno del file (in questo caso una mail) che stai scrivendo.

Ottimo syd, con questo ho quasi risolto il mio problema con gli headers X-Mailer 
e User-Agent di cui sei già a conoscenza. 
Lavorando solo sul corpo del testo scavalco quel difetto di cancellazione degli 
headers suddetti che ho riscontrato pigiando il tasto R o m quando richiamo un 
file rimandato (siccome questa cancellazione non è occasionale ed è mirata a quei 
due headers, credo che dipenda dalla compilazione di mutt piuttosto che da un bug). 
Il sistema di salvare solo il corpo del testo mi è molto utile se il messaggio non 
è un reply, altrimenti bisognerebbe poi modificare il subject ma, se potessi 
scegliere il subject tra i messaggi ricevuti senza riscriverlo a mano, così come si 
fa con l'header To: per esempio e il tasto tab che apre una lista di alias dove 
si può selezionare un destinatario. Se non fosse possibile allora proverei a 
ricompilare 
il mio src.rpm della mia versione attuale di Mutt. 
Adesso mi vedo sul manuale la procedura che comunque dovrebbe essere simile 
alla ricompilazione del kernel che ho eseguito diverse volte e che ormai considero 
alla stessa stregua di tutte le operazioni già acquisite, ma non ho mai compilato 
niente da un file src.rpm.
Come vedi in questo messaggio ho utilizzato il tuo metodo consigliato ad arwan e 
l'headers X-Mailer è nuovamente presente, però ho dovuto incollare il subject dalla 
mail dalla quale avrei dovuto efettuare il reply.

Ciao, Giuseppe.

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Re: [newbie-it] compatibilit#224; hardware

2003-06-17 Thread Enrico Teotti
grazie sei consigli!




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[newbie] Another way to get at the mandrake menus

2003-06-17 Thread eric huff
Here's another way to get at the huge Mandrake menu system if you 
don't/can't put it in a normal menu place:

/usr/lib/apps/  for lots of apps (some that you prolly don't have)
and
/usr/lib/apps/Mandrake  for what appears to be the normal menu list (minus 
whatever mods you have made).

It's a little disconcerting, but very useful, that rox treats these 
directories like menus.  IE, if you look at them in xftree, you see dirs 
with files, but in rox, you see runnable applications.  I guess the rox 
folks programmed some extra smarts based onthe scontents of the directory

Anyway, it also solves my problem of menus following the mouse like a cat.  
I use the menus less and less as i learn the progs, but when i need 
them...

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Re: [newbie] I feel so stupid

2003-06-17 Thread Inhabitant of Zion
Hi

I tried that! It went like this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# rpm -Uvh urpmi-4.3-15mdk.noarch.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
perl-URPM = 0.90-10mdk is needed by urpmi-4.3-15mdk
perl(Locale::gettext)   is needed by urpmi-4.3-15mdk
perl(POSIX)   is needed by urpmi-4.3-15mdk
perl(URPM)   is needed by urpmi-4.3-15mdk
perl(URPM::Resolve)   is needed by urpmi-4.3-15mdk
perl(strict)   is needed by urpmi-4.3-15mdk
perl(vars)   is needed by urpmi-4.3-15mdk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# rpm -Uvh perl-URPM-0.91-1mdk.i586.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
rpm = 4.2-7mdk is needed by perl-URPM-0.91-1mdk
librpm-4.2.so   is needed by perl-URPM-0.91-1mdk
librpmdb-4.2.so   is needed by perl-URPM-0.91-1mdk
librpmio-4.2.so   is needed by perl-URPM-0.91-1mdk
perl(DynaLoader)   is needed by perl-URPM-0.91-1mdk
perl(strict)   is needed by perl-URPM-0.91-1mdk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# rpm -Uvh rpm*
error: failed dependencies:
popt = 1.8-7mdk is needed by rpm-4.2-7mdk
elfutils is needed by rpm-4.2-7mdk
libelf.so.1   is needed by rpm-4.2-7mdk
rpm = 4.0.4-28mdk is needed by rpm-build-4.0.4-28mdk
librpm-4.0.4.so   is needed by perl-URPM-0.81-13mdk
librpm-4.0.4.so   is needed by rpmtools-4.5-9mdk
librpm-4.0.4.so   is needed by rpm-build-4.0.4-28mdk
librpm-4.0.4.so   is needed by gnorpm-0.96-12mdk
librpm-4.0.4.so   is needed by grpmi-9.1-15.1mdk
librpmbuild-4.0.4.so   is needed by rpm-build-4.0.4-28mdk
librpmdb-4.0.4.so   is needed by perl-URPM-0.81-13mdk
librpmdb-4.0.4.so   is needed by rpmtools-4.5-9mdk
librpmdb-4.0.4.so   is needed by rpm-build-4.0.4-28mdk
librpmdb-4.0.4.so   is needed by gnorpm-0.96-12mdk
librpmdb-4.0.4.so   is needed by grpmi-9.1-15.1mdk
librpmio-4.0.4.so   is needed by perl-URPM-0.81-13mdk
librpmio-4.0.4.so   is needed by rpmtools-4.5-9mdk
librpmio-4.0.4.so   is needed by rpm-build-4.0.4-28mdk
librpmio-4.0.4.so   is needed by gnorpm-0.96-12mdk
librpmio-4.0.4.so   is needed by grpmi-9.1-15.1mdk

At this point I decided it was time to go make myself a nice strong
cup of tea!

John

 
  Originally I believe that's a fair complaint. But urpmi has 
 been under heavy development and improvement. Latest version for 
 the up coming 9.2 is urpmi-4.3-15mdk  and works very well.  There 
 will always be more problems with non-Mandrake packages tho. A lot 
 of this due to improperly packaged rpms, not urpmi.
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Re: [newbie] OT My last SCO post

2003-06-17 Thread Inhabitant of Zion
Hi

Why does'nt the guy who sent this to SCO get all his co-workers to do
the same.

Somebody have a word with him!

John

 
 This could be the tip of the iceberg; it would surely be quite funny
 if all the thousands of people that have contributed to the kernel
 source and other sources within linux all started firing off these
 types of legal threats all at the same time...
 


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Re: [newbie] Is it starting to fall apart for SCO?

2003-06-17 Thread JoeHill
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:06:58 -0600
FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 silly MOD IMO...tried to be realistic but you could get insane frags
 using just grenades.  *rolls eyes* Gimme a break.

Actually, I've found most people just avoid the GL for that reason,
except as a tactical weapon, to fend off an overrun, but that has been a
consistent criticism, granted. I mostly just play against the bots for
fun now, I haven't played online in ages.

I would definitely get back into it if there were some people here
jumpin in. Alas, UT2K3 is a bit of a sloth on my poor system.

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Re: [newbie] AviPlay

2003-06-17 Thread Inhabitant of Zion
Hi

Yes it does and on DVD's I think something with avi-play has broken my
sound modules.

John

On 17 Jun 2003 09:09:04+1000 Stephen Kuhn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Does this happen in either Xine or MPlayer?
 


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[newbie] Launch MySQL at startup

2003-06-17 Thread Jesus Hernandez
Hi, i've just installed MySQL in my Linux machine, and i want to know how can i launch 
it at startup, as another service.

Thanks,
Chus


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Re: [newbie] Launch MySQL at startup

2003-06-17 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 16:57, Jesus Hernandez wrote:
 Hi, i've just installed MySQL in my Linux machine, and i want to know how can i 
 launch it at startup, as another service.
 
 Thanks,
 Chus
 

Run drakxservices - you'll find MySQL in there already - but unticked
- so make sure it's ticked, click START and from now on, every time you
fire up your linux box (why would you shut it down?) it'll start as a
system service.

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RE: Re: [newbie] Launch MySQL at startup

2003-06-17 Thread Jesus Hernandez
The problem is that my PC is quite old, and I didn't install X, so, how can i 
configure it from the command prompt?

Chus


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Re: [newbie] Launch MySQL at startup

2003-06-17 Thread Wm. G. Urquhart
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, Jesus Hernandez wrote:

 Hi, i've just installed MySQL in my Linux machine, and i want to know how can i 
 launch it at startup, as another service.
 
 Thanks,
 Chus
 

Hi,

You could always use webmin if you installed that, then you'll be able to 
configure the machine from another desktop. 

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RE: Re: [newbie] Launch MySQL at startup

2003-06-17 Thread Frankie
urpmi ntsysv

and run it at the command prompt as root
very handy..

rgds

Franki

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Sent: Tuesday, 17 June 2003 3:10 PM
To: Stephen Kuhn
Subject: RE: Re: [newbie] Launch MySQL at startup


The problem is that my PC is quite old, and I didn't install X, so, how can
i configure it from the command prompt?

Chus




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Re: [newbie] RADEON 9500 OK on MDK 9.1?

2003-06-17 Thread Jure Repinc
Tango Echo wrote:
Hi Everyone,

I am considering a purchase of a: 

ATI OEM RADEON 9500 128MB DDR AGP 8X 

video card.  What have been your experiences with this
piece of hardware?  Do you recommend it for Mandrake
9.1?  I am in great need to upgrade the old video card
for better gaming, but need to know that this card
will not be a headache...
TIA!!
Hi,

I have this card and I'm using it on Gigabyte GA7VA motherboard and it 
is working very well. Just be sure to use the new drivers that you can 
get here: http://www.schneider-digital.de/html/download_ati.html
ATI is going to release new official driver this month but you can get 
the latest test version on zhe above URL.
I think ATI Radeon 9500 is the best choice right now. It is not 
expensive and runs fast and it has much better image quality then nVidia 
solutions.

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Re: [newbie] sound problems Via AC97 on Sony Vaio

2003-06-17 Thread Vahur Lokk
On Monday 16 June 2003 21:57, Lavanya Vasudevan wrote:
 Thank you, but I'm afraid that doesn't work either.  The
 alternative driver seems to be an OSS one, via82cxxx_audio. 
 It also freezes my system.

 I checked on the ALSA web page and snd-via82xx does seem to
 be the driver recommended for my card.  I downloaded the ALSA
 drivers and re-installed ALSA on my system.  I tried with
 both version 0.9.4 and 0.9.0rc6, but they both freeze my
 system after installation, when I do modprobe snd-via82xx.

 Thanks,
 Lavanya
This seems to be somewhat problematic chip. I wrestled it last 
fall. Following instructions from the ALSA homepage to the 
letter I installed ALSA drivers but never got it working 100% - 
some games just remained silent or crashed (xmms and CD-player 
worked OK as well as KDE sound). It did not crash on my comp, 
fortunately.
As I am not really demanding about sound quality but wish 
everything in good working order, I disabled this onboard Via 
crap-chip from bios and stuffed just another cheapo SB clone 
into my box. Works without a hitch.

Wahur

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Re: [newbie] help

2003-06-17 Thread FemmeFatale
At 01:10 AM 6/17/2003 -0400, you wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:54:39 +1000
Nathan Coad [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:


...me learn to type?
...me I'm being held captive by a gang of Lobsters?

...me get my car out of the ditch?

--
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I normally don't respond to these..but this had me giggling pretty good 
Joe.  Ty. :D
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Re: [newbie] Installed...part 2..what can i do now......

2003-06-17 Thread FemmeFatale
At 10:32 PM 6/16/2003 -0700, you wrote:
 we'll see how much damage i can do from here  :)

If you're anyting like the rest f us, A LOT!  :)
agreed... i suspect i hold the record for most reinstalls in one day  
fastest OS crasher in the western hemisphere...lol... and all i do is 
surf, email, IM  um... fubar the system as much as possible.  :D

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Re: [newbie] OT, gaming... Screw SCO. :D

2003-06-17 Thread FemmeFatale
At 12:34 AM 6/17/2003 -0400, you wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:06:58 -0600
FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 silly MOD IMO...tried to be realistic but you could get insane frags
 using just grenades.  *rolls eyes* Gimme a break.
Actually, I've found most people just avoid the GL for that reason,
except as a tactical weapon, to fend off an overrun, but that has been a
consistent criticism, granted. I mostly just play against the bots for
fun now, I haven't played online in ages.
I would definitely get back into it if there were some people here
jumpin in. Alas, UT2K3 is a bit of a sloth on my poor system.
--
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well my current games I play online or offline:

WC3 (haven't played in a while admittedly... because... see next game)
SystemShock2 (having too much fun being scared witless by this awesome 
game!  Goddamn...it is the scariest thing i've played in many many years!)
UT2K3
Jedi Knight 2 (not alot... sigh...)

The serious sam series is far too tough... IMO... and just mindless. Too 
bad. :(

hm...oh yes FireArms for Half Life. If you like UT (U. Terror) Try FA.  It 
rocks hard w/out the spamminess of UT  the You MUST have team tactics to 
win on pubs mentality..nor are the players all UBER L33T pricks who kick 
you for just trying to learn...least not where I play!  Come play on 
Tracys Trailer Park or Eck's: The Slums!  :)

If you need help with the MOD or whatnot, come to Irc on gamesnet in 
#clanpop.  We'll play...hell you can play this on a PII 200. :D
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RE: Re: [newbie] Launch MySQL at startup

2003-06-17 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 17:10, Jesus Hernandez wrote:
 The problem is that my PC is quite old, and I didn't install X, so, how can i 
 configure it from the command prompt?
 
 Chus

From the console:

chkconfig --add mysql

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Re: [newbie] RADEON 9500 OK on MDK 9.1?

2003-06-17 Thread FemmeFatale
At 09:29 AM 6/17/2003 +0200, you wrote:
Tango Echo wrote:
Hi,
I have this card and I'm using it on Gigabyte GA7VA motherboard and it is 
working very well. Just be sure to use the new drivers that you can get 
here: http://www.schneider-digital.de/html/download_ati.html
ATI is going to release new official driver this month but you can get the 
latest test version on zhe above URL.
I think ATI Radeon 9500 is the best choice right now. It is not expensive 
and runs fast and it has much better image quality then nVidia solutions.

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I can't read ... german...?  Nor do I see anything there for his 
card.  Does that site give you 9700 drivers too???

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Re: [newbie] help

2003-06-17 Thread g
for sure, and you need plenty. :)

you may also want to look at http://www.expita.com/



peace out.

tc,hago.

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Re: [newbie] Install - i'm about to take a sledgehammer to my computer

2003-06-17 Thread g


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 16 Jun 2003 at 21:09, Carroll Grigsby wrote:

Think we should tell crak600 that the appropriate screws to retain a

i'm relatively young (almost 26)but my dad has been an electrical 
did he tell you;
 how to reverse a circuit breaker?
 remove, re insert backwards. instead of tripping, it stumbles.
 screw a fuse in backwards, instead of blowing, it sucks.

peace out.

tc,hago.

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Re: [newbie] Install - iit's working...almost

2003-06-17 Thread g


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 16 Jun 2003 at 20:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


simple...fresh download on all 3 ISO images, didn't move them
congrats.

i am just now returning for a very long day.  what i had intended would
have been involved and lengthy. your problem is solved, i can play.
btw.

i am curious, you never mentioned, did you ever run md5 on 1st dl's.

i could've possibly downloaded a bad or incomplete ISO image
and reason of asking above.

anytime you dl files and md5 checksums are available, run md5.



peace out.

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Re: [newbie] Install - i'm about to take a sledgehammer to my computer

2003-06-17 Thread g


eric huff wrote:


http://www.samsungodd.com/eng/LiveUpdate/FWvercheck/FWvercheck.asp
thanks for passing link. will pull later. i have been using norton to find
most of what i have needed to know of ms os's.
peace out.

tc,hago.

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[newbie] Anybody use apt on mandrake?

2003-06-17 Thread Xuer
I have gotten an ape rpm from urpmi, and installed it. It works well but 
with no src source defaultly, so I can't use such as ' apt-get source 
--compile gaim'. And I don't know how to add a cooker src source to the 
source.list.Anybody knows?


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[newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Installation problems

2003-06-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I recently bought some new hardware intended to take me into the next few years and I 
am having problems getting Mandrake installed.  I have a Soyo KT400 Dragon Ultra 
Platinum MB with 1024 megs ram, Nvidia GE4 Ti4600 graphics card.  I had to patch the 
installation kernel in order to install given the current framebuffer issues with high 
ram video cards and ~1024 ram machines.  I did get Linux installed and running except 
for X.  I am now having problems trying to start X with the Nvidia graphics cards and 
drivers that come with Mandrake boxed set.  When I try to start X, I get a blank 
display with nothing coming up.  I don't think that the machine is locked up, I can 
ssh into it from another machine, but X just does not do anything and the display is 
completely blank.  I have attached my Xfree log and config file here to help with 
troubleshooting.  Does anyone have any suggestions that might help me get X working?  
TIA.

XFree86.zip
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Installation problems

2003-06-17 Thread kjc





The first thing to do is. Download the most recent X drivers from the nvidia
site. And follow the appropriate instructions for installing the driver into
the kernel.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I recently bought some new hardware intended to take me into the next few years and I am having problems getting Mandrake installed.  I have a Soyo KT400 Dragon Ultra Platinum MB with 1024 megs ram, Nvidia GE4 Ti4600 graphics card.  I had to patch the installation kernel in order to install given the current framebuffer issues with high ram video cards and ~1024 ram machines.  I did get Linux installed and running except for X.  I am now having problems trying to start X with the Nvidia graphics cards and drivers that come with Mandrake boxed set.  When I try to start X, I get a blank display with nothing coming up.  I don't think that the machine is locked up, I can ssh into it from another machine, but X just does not do anything and the display is completely blank.  I have attached my Xfree log and config file here to help with troubleshooting.  Does anyone have any suggestions that might help me get X working?  TIA.
  

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RE: [newbie] RADEON 9500 OK on MDK 9.1?

2003-06-17 Thread Tango Echo
Hmm well based on Jure Repinc's reply, I wonder if it
would have been more productive for me to just jump in
the #linux channel and ask What's the best Linux
distro? ; Or maybe I should've asked a crowd Ford or
Chevy?

But there must be more to this... The way I understand
it is ATI is better.  The only thing holding them back
on my decision here is support for Linux.  Now it
seems that isn't really an issue according to Jure?

I want the best image possible - but I also don't want
to end up with a headache card for Linux.  Is this new
info from Jure? or should I just stop wasting my time
and give up on ATI before shelling out $150+???



-Original Message-
From: Stephen Kuhn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 7:04 PM
To: Mandrake Newbie
Subject: RE: [newbie] RADEON 9500 OK on MDK 9.1?


On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 23:59, Tango Echo wrote:

 What do you suggest in place of the ATI RADEON 9500
 128MB? The card had excellent reviews... Something
of
 equal or better technology is what I'm looking for
 (plus great reviews ;).

GeForce FX-5600 256mb DDR (*that is, IF you're
serious*)

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Re: [newbie] RADEON 9500 OK on MDK 9.1?

2003-06-17 Thread Tango Echo
Jure,

You say that you are running the 9500 on your
system... 

What version of Mandrake are you running?

Have you run any serious games with it such as
UT2K3?

Any idea if it will work with a ECS K75SA mobo?


--- Jure Repinc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 FemmeFatale wrote:
 
  I can't read ... german...?  Nor do I see anything
 there for his card.  
  Does that site give you 9700 drivers too???
 
 I also don't know how to read german but it is not
 hard to find the 
 correct driver. Well I forgot to mention these are
 the unified drivers 
 which are for professional ATI cards and also work
 for normal cards. And 
 they work on Radeon 8500, 9000 and 9500 here so I
 guess they should work 
 on 9700 just fine.
 Here are the direct links to drivers for different
 XFree86 versions:
 
 4.1.0:

http://www.schneider-digital.de/download/ati/glx1_linux_X4.1.zip
 4.2.0:

http://www.schneider-digital.de/download/ati/glx1_linux_X4.2.zip
 4.3.0:

http://www.schneider-digital.de/download/ati/glx1_linux_X4.3.zip
 
 
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Re: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Installation problems

2003-06-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have previously tried the most recent drivers.  Makes absolutely no difference which 
is why I stuck with the Mandrake supplied drivers this time around.  I wanted to make 
sure that there was no issue with using something that hadn't been proven to work and 
I am pretty sure that the stock drivers supplied by Mandrake are working for most 
others or there would be bug reports about them and I see no bug reports on Mandrakes 
sites about it.  Thanks for the suggestion though.  Any others?  Anybody see something 
that I am missing in the log file?





The first thing to do is. Download the most recent X drivers from the nvidia
site. And follow the appropriate instructions for installing the driver into
the kernel.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I recently bought some new hardware intended to take me into the next few years and I am having problems getting Mandrake installed.  I have a Soyo KT400 Dragon Ultra Platinum MB with 1024 megs ram, Nvidia GE4 Ti4600 graphics card.  I had to patch the installation kernel in order to install given the current framebuffer issues with high ram video cards and ~1024 ram machines.  I did get Linux installed and running except for X.  I am now having problems trying to start X with the Nvidia graphics cards and drivers that come with Mandrake boxed set.  When I try to start X, I get a blank display with nothing coming up.  I don't think that the machine is locked up, I can ssh into it from another machine, but X just does not do anything and the display is completely blank.  I have attached my Xfree log and config file here to help with troubleshooting.  Does anyone have any suggestions that might help me get X working?  TIA.
  

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Installation problems

2003-06-17 Thread Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 17 Jun 2003 12:56 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I recently bought some new hardware intended to take me into the next few
 years and I am having problems getting Mandrake installed.  I have a Soyo
 KT400 Dragon Ultra Platinum MB with 1024 megs ram, Nvidia GE4 Ti4600
 graphics card.  I had to patch the installation kernel in order to install
 given the current framebuffer issues with high ram video cards and ~1024
 ram machines.  I did get Linux installed and running except for X.  I am
 now having problems trying to start X with the Nvidia graphics cards and
 drivers that come with Mandrake boxed set.  When I try to start X, I get a
 blank display with nothing coming up.  I don't think that the machine is
 locked up, I can ssh into it from another machine, but X just does not do
 anything and the display is completely blank.  I have attached my Xfree log
 and config file here to help with troubleshooting.  Does anyone have any
 suggestions that might help me get X working?  TIA.

Well apart from a warning about not being able to read your monitors 
capabilities from the hardware which could lead to not having many screen 
resolutions available your log shows that it all came up and ought to be 
working.
Is this a twin head card? could the display be on the other port?

To get X working you could use the Opensource nv driver.
Just edit the relevant parts of your XF86Config-4 like this :-

Section Module
Load dbe # Double-Buffering Extension
Load v4l # Video for Linux
Load extmod
Load type1
Load freetype
Load glx
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier device1
VendorName NVidia
BoardName NVIDIA GeForce4 (generic)
Driver nv
Option DPMS
EndSection


In fact I am wondering if some of those options you have in your current file 
might be the cause of your problem?
You might like to try with this :

Section Device
Identifier device1
VendorName NVidia
BoardName NVIDIA GeForce4 (generic)
Driver nvidia
Option DPMS
EndSection

HTH

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Re: [newbie] new vid card

2003-06-17 Thread JoeHill
On 17 Jun 2003 07:20:42 -0400
Technoslick [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 Are you having problems with getting a working setting through
 XFdrake, Bill...or are you asking what program (like XFdrake, or
 through Mandrake Control Center) is needed to make the Xserver
 changes?

can you run XFdrake from text mode, cuz he can't get into X at all
apparently...

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Re: [newbie] RADEON 9500 OK on MDK 9.1?

2003-06-17 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 05:16:50 -0700 (PDT)
Tango Echo [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 I want the best image possible - but I also don't want
 to end up with a headache card for Linux.  Is this new
 info from Jure? or should I just stop wasting my time
 and give up on ATI before shelling out $150+???

Statistically, ATI has more probs with their drivers than Nvidia. You
*can* and I am quite sure, with the help of the people on this list,
esp Femme Fatale and Tom Brinkman, be able to get an ATI to work with
Linux, but as I say, Nvidia is a no-brainer, I have *never* had a single
prob with my various Nvidia cards, right from my old TNT2, my GF2, and
now my GF4 Ti. In *fact*, when I got my Ti, I just powered down, took
out the GF2, popped in the GF4 and I was good to go.

You are correct, ATI has implemented some pretty impressive features, so
if you want em that bad, and you're willing to risk doing a little
tweakin here and there, go for it. We'll be here for you.

Well, I won't, cuz I don't know shite about gettin ATI cards to work,
but you will find help.

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Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Info With a Ball and Chain

2003-06-17 Thread Robin Turner
JoeHill wrote:
On 17 Jun 2003 14:44:59 +1000
Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

http://www.msnbc.com/news/926304.asp?0si


The open source community will never accept DRM, and will never build it
into their software.
The worst case scenario, as you have pointed out, is still not very
attractive. That it will be *illegal* to produce software that is not
DRM enabled. 
Possible but unlikely. I can see a few ignorant/bought US senators going 
for it, but the EU? No way, especially with Germany's third largest city 
running Linux. So, for that matter, do the NSA and the Department of 
Homeland Security.

In that case, we will all become rebel outlaws, a position
I most heartily accept, as I know you do. Let me be a criminal. Let them
put me in prison for using a non-DRM-enabled OS on my PC. How many
prisons are they going to build? Are they going to put Linus Torvalds in
prison? The next Nelson Mandela, LOL, his arrest record would be hacked
out of existence in seconds, the entire judiciary would be shut down
within a day. To paraphrase a great man, they know not what they do,
and who is going to do it back to them IN SPADES...
The idea of Linus in prison, although far-fetched, is extremely amusing, 
as would be the backlash.  Most of the Internet runs on Apache, and if 
there's one thing Linux hackers know well, it's Apache.


Another thing to keep in mind though, the geeks are always one step
ahead of the technocrats. They simply do not understand what they are
dealing with. The last time they issued a challenge to crack their
digital watermark (that took them months to build), the data came back
cracked in under a day? And how long do you think it would take to get
around those encrypted e-mails?
Interesting.  Got a link?
The phone company has been combatting phreaks for how long now?
I didn't know phone phreaking was still going - I first read about it in 
the 1970s, and assumed it had been eclipsed by the Internet.

Microsoft does not have enough brains to figure out basic security after
over 30 years in operation. They will never outpace the hackers among
us.
Amen to that.  But I still think the important thing is the legit side - 
making alternatives, informing the public, fighting legal battles and so on.

Sir Robin

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Some guy breaking into a government computer system and wreaking havoc
makes for a more interesting movie plot than some guy writing device
drivers. It's hard to work in a good 10-minutes car chase scene with some
guy who writes device drivers... - tjc, post to LWN
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Re: [newbie] I feel so stupid

2003-06-17 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Tuesday June 17 2003 12:59 am, Inhabitant of Zion wrote:
 I tried that! It went like this:
many many dep failures snipped

 At this point I decided it was time to go make myself a nice
 strong cup of tea!

 John

  Maybe I wasn't clear enough. The latest version is in cooker and 
will only run on cooker 9.2.  Besides all those deps you got, you 
would'a got even more if you'd tried to install them, and more when 
you tried to satisfy those. If you were ever able to get done, 
you'd be runnin cooker 9.2. FWIW, and an example of current heavy 
development, urpmi-4.3-15mdk is now the old version, today's is 
urpmi-4.4-1mdk

   Originally I believe that's a fair complaint. But urpmi
  has been under heavy development and improvement. Latest
  version for the up coming 9.2 is urpmi-4.3-15mdk  and works
  very well. 
.There will always be more problems with 
  non-Mandrake packages tho. A lot of this due to improperly
  packaged rpms, not urpmi.   
.
  That's the main point I wanted to make. 3rd party or non-Mandrake 
packages/tarballs, specially closed source proprietary ones are 
gonna be a problem whether you use urpmi or not. You'll be better 
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Re: [newbie] Install - i'm about to take a sledgehammer to my computer

2003-06-17 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Monday June 16 2003 05:21 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
 At 07:41 AM 6/16/2003 -0500, you wrote:
 snip
 
  If you're really d/l'g   Mandrake91-cd1-inst.i586.iso  it
  isn't a rar archive and winrar won't extract it.  It just needs
  to be burnt to a cd as an image, not a data file. .iso are just
  one type of image file, audio CD's are another, any OS. As has
  already been suggested, check the md5sum of the iso before, and
  the CD after burning. If those check, and the CD won't boot,
  most likely it's a hardware or configuration problem.

 For those of you who don't use windows...

 an FYI:  Win98  later will see ANY compressed image (.iso, .rar,
 .zip, .tar,.bzip, .nrg... it goes on) as a COMPRESSED file. 

   W98 should see it as a compressed file. Any OS should recognize 
an image file (such as .iso) as a compressed archive. They are.  
.tar's aren't compressed, .tar.gz's are tho.

 So 
 it gives it an ICON it finds that is associated with ANY
 Compression program you have on your comp, be that Winzip or
 Winrar or WinImage or Nero.  The icon is irrelevant and is just
 confusing this poor sod.

 Ignore hte icon  just use Nero or Roxio to burn it.  Nero's site
 has how-to-idiot-proof instructions (as does its help files) on
 burning images (.iso's  the like) to CD.  Use that.  Roxio I
 don't  Never will use so don't ask me about it.

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Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Info With a Ball and Chain

2003-06-17 Thread Derek Jennings

SNIP
 Possible but unlikely. I can see a few ignorant/bought US senators going
 for it, but the EU? No way, especially with Germany's third largest city
 running Linux. So, for that matter, do the NSA and the Department of
 Homeland Security.
SNIP
 Sir Robin

I admire your trust in the people who brought us the
Common Agricultural Policy, and the Common Fisheries Policy doing the 
right thing.

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Re: [newbie] new vid card

2003-06-17 Thread Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 17 Jun 2003 1:46 pm, JoeHill wrote:
 On 17 Jun 2003 07:20:42 -0400

 Technoslick [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
  Are you having problems with getting a working setting through
  XFdrake, Bill...or are you asking what program (like XFdrake, or
  through Mandrake Control Center) is needed to make the Xserver
  changes?

 can you run XFdrake from text mode, cuz he can't get into X at all
 apparently...

Yes you can. Try it.

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Re: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Installation problems

2003-06-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Derek Jennings wrote:

Well apart from a warning about not being able to read your monitors 
capabilities from the hardware which could lead to not having many screen 
resolutions available your log shows that it all came up and ought to be 
working.
Is this a twin head card? could the display be on the other port?

To get X working you could use the Opensource nv driver.
Just edit the relevant parts of your XF86Config-4 like this :-

Section Module
Load dbe # Double-Buffering Extension
Load v4l # Video for Linux
Load extmod
Load type1
Load freetype
Load glx
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier device1
VendorName NVidia
BoardName NVIDIA GeForce4 (generic)
Driver nv
Option DPMS
EndSection


In fact I am wondering if some of those options you have in your current
file 
might be the cause of your problem?
You might like to try with this :

Section Device
Identifier device1
VendorName NVidia
BoardName NVIDIA GeForce4 (generic)
Driver nvidia
Option DPMS
EndSection


Previously, during installation, I selected and specified Opensource nv driver as well 
as opensource vesa driver with no glx or other additions, in each case the display 
fails to start x, and I actually end up with a completely garbled screen with weird 
ascii characters on it and a completely locked machine.  Mandrake does detect the 
Nvidia board and recommends the Geforce4 nvidia driver and the machine doesn't get 
locked up using it so that seems to be working better than opensource nv or vesa 
drivers.  I might try it again when I get back home anyway, just to be sure but I 
don't imagine that it will work better now, with a kernel patched for nvidia, than 
before when I chose those options during the original installation.

The other options are either stock additions from the Mandrake install or have been 
added due to the framebuffer issues.  For instance, the Nvagp option is to prevent agp 
from being used since there have been some reported problems with agpgart on kernels 
that have not been specifically patched for it.  I don't know whether mine has been 
patched for it or not but just turned it completely off in case it wasn't.  The 
ConnectedMonitor and IgnoreDisplayDevices options are there to prevent issues with 
long startup times as the driver tries to auto detect which display is connected to 
the card.  I have three connections on the card, a DVI port for LCD, a TV out and CRT 
analog connection.  I am using the CRT analog connection with standard 15 pin 
connector, so I disable DVI and TV in the options and specify that I am using the CRT 
option.

I have found one small possible issue, the Mandrake specification for viewsonic A90 
notes vertical of 50-180 Hz and the actual specification of the A90f (mine) is 50-150 
Hz.  I am going to alter that and try it again tonight but given that I tried lower 
resolutions that should have been under 150 Hz, I suspect that won't make much of a 
difference.  Also, display resolutions are being autodetected on the CRT and that 
should be correct, even if the config top ranges are out of whack.  Also, previously, 
I have specified unsupported ranges on the monitor and in each case I get a display 
error from the monitor itself telling me that the mode is unsupported by the monitor.  
I don't see such a message now so I suspect that this is not the issue.

Anyway, I will try your suggestions just to be sure.

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Re: [newbie] new vid card

2003-06-17 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:10:04 +0100
Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 Try it.

nah, rather just ask stupid questions :
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Re: [newbie] Changing WindowMaker default fonts?

2003-06-17 Thread Terry Sheltra
Thanks for the help Joe.  I've installed the XFontSel utility, and am 
happily screwing up WM :-)

Terry

JoeHill wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 16:42:48 -0400
Terry Sheltra [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

I wanted to know if there was a way to 
change the default font that WindowMaker uses.  If so, how?  And where
are the fonts located at that I can choose from?


From the WindowMaker docs here:
http://www.windowmaker.org/documentation-userguide-chapter4.html#413

Appearance Options

Fonts are specified in the X Logical Font Description format (aka Xtra
Long Font Description). You can cut and paste these names from programs
like xfontsel.
Looks like xfontsel is not available through urpmi, try a search on
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Re: [newbie] OT, gaming... Screw SCO. :D

2003-06-17 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 01:56:16 -0600
FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 WC3 (haven't played in a while admittedly... because... see next
 game) SystemShock2 (having too much fun being scared witless by this
 awesome game!  Goddamn...it is the scariest thing i've played in many
 many years!) UT2K3
 Jedi Knight 2 (not alot... sigh...)
 
 The serious sam series is far too tough... IMO... and just mindless.
 Too bad. :(
 
 hm...oh yes FireArms for Half Life. If you like UT (U. Terror) Try FA.
  It 
 rocks hard w/out the spamminess of UT  the You MUST have team
 tactics to win on pubs mentality..nor are the players all UBER L33T
 pricks who kick you for just trying to learn...least not where I play!
  Come play on 
 Tracys Trailer Park or Eck's: The Slums!  :)
 
 If you need help with the MOD or whatnot, come to Irc on gamesnet in 
 #clanpop.  We'll play...hell you can play this on a PII 200. :D

Sorry, don't have Windows, don't use WineX. For me, it's native or
nothing, ie. Id Software basically.

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Re: [newbie] Changing WindowMaker default fonts?

2003-06-17 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:25:28 -0400
Terry Sheltra [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 Thanks for the help Joe.  I've installed the XFontSel utility, and am 
 happily screwing up WM :-)

Glad to help! Mostly I just make smartass remarks...

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[newbie] CLAM AV

2003-06-17 Thread Todd Slater
Is anybody using CLAM antivirus? I have a couple of questions about it.

Todd

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Re: [newbie] Installed...part 2..what can i do now......

2003-06-17 Thread crak600
On 17 Jun 2003 at 1:50, FemmeFatale wrote:


 agreed... i suspect i hold the record for most reinstalls in one day
  fastest OS crasher in the western hemisphere...lol... and all i do
 is surf, email, IM  um... fubar the system as much as possible.  :D
 

prepare to lose that title as i'm completely clueless when it comes to 
any form of programmingi know how to install programs in 
windows and that's about it!  i didn't have mandrake installed on the 
computer for more than an hour (and was only actually IN mandrake 
for maybe 20 minutes) and i got it all screwed up!  i'm learningand 
now that i got AIM up, i don't need to go back to windows as much  
:)

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Re: [newbie] Install - iit's working...almost

2003-06-17 Thread crak600
On 17 Jun 2003 at 7:36, g wrote:


 
 i am curious, you never mentioned, did you ever run md5 on 1st dl's.
 
 
no, never ran MD5.  i looked into the program and got that 
uhhh feeling, as in one of those...what do i do with THAT?!  i 
think most of the origonal problems were just user error though.

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Re: [newbie] CLAM AV

2003-06-17 Thread Michael Scottaline
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:42:47 -0400
Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled furiously:

 Is anybody using CLAM antivirus? I have a couple of questions about it.
 
 Todd
 
 

Hi Todd,
I'm using it as a plugin for Sylpheed [0.9.0claws].  I've tested it by
e-mailing myself an infected file as an attachment and CLAM caught it and
put it into my Infected? folder.  Seems to work fine shrug
Mike

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Re: [newbie] Installed...part 2..what can i do now......

2003-06-17 Thread Brian Parish
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 23:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 17 Jun 2003 at 1:50, FemmeFatale wrote:
 
 
  agreed... i suspect i hold the record for most reinstalls in one day
   fastest OS crasher in the western hemisphere...lol... and all i do
  is surf, email, IM  um... fubar the system as much as possible.  :D
  
 
 prepare to lose that title as i'm completely clueless when it comes to 
 any form of programmingi know how to install programs in 
 windows and that's about it!  i didn't have mandrake installed on the 
 computer for more than an hour (and was only actually IN mandrake 
 for maybe 20 minutes) and i got it all screwed up!  i'm learningand 
 now that i got AIM up, i don't need to go back to windows as much  
 :)
 
Just remember that if it's working, it's because you haven't fixed it
enough yet.  ...and don't think that you can take Miss Fatale's crown
that easily - she worked hard to get it and she's not going down without
a fight!

cheers
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[newbie] DirectX or equivalant?

2003-06-17 Thread crak600
my friend told me that he wasn't able to get games running in linux 
because linux doesn't support directX (he had just scratched the 
surface on this subject though).  while i don't play games a lot, 
occasionally me and him will link up over cable and play multiplayer 
games.  so the question iscan directX be used in linux or is there 
an equivalent to it that i can run all my windows based games off of?  
or is there a way to patch it in?  i havn't even attempted to install any 
of my games yet, but it'd be nice to be able to and then point him in 
the right direction as well.  btw, he's only dependant on winblows 
anymore because of gaming.  that's the only thing holding him back 
from making a perminant switch to mandrake.  Thanks for any info.  

and now that i am sending this out, i'm about to switch back to 
mandrake from winblows and start searching the links that you guys 
(and gals) gave me for programs and i'll probably run across a fix for 
this...that's just my luck...ask a question then immediately find the 
answer on my own!

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Re: [newbie] DirectX or equivalant?

2003-06-17 Thread João Candido Araujo Milasch Filho
Actualy there is a Windows API that can run windows directx games based on
linux. Its called WineX, a transgaming version of the famous wine. you can
check it out on www.transgaming.com

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:30 AM
Subject: [newbie] DirectX or equivalant?


 my friend told me that he wasn't able to get games running in linux
 because linux doesn't support directX (he had just scratched the
 surface on this subject though).  while i don't play games a lot,
 occasionally me and him will link up over cable and play multiplayer
 games.  so the question iscan directX be used in linux or is there
 an equivalent to it that i can run all my windows based games off of?
 or is there a way to patch it in?  i havn't even attempted to install any
 of my games yet, but it'd be nice to be able to and then point him in
 the right direction as well.  btw, he's only dependant on winblows
 anymore because of gaming.  that's the only thing holding him back
 from making a perminant switch to mandrake.  Thanks for any info.

 and now that i am sending this out, i'm about to switch back to
 mandrake from winblows and start searching the links that you guys
 (and gals) gave me for programs and i'll probably run across a fix for
 this...that's just my luck...ask a question then immediately find the
 answer on my own!








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Re: [newbie] help

2003-06-17 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 12:54 am, Nathan Coad wrote:

Thanks for providing an excellent example as to why HTML should not be used on 
mail lists. The original empty message took up 5 KB!

Your previous posts were with Mozilla under Mandrake, but this time you're 
using MS Outlook. Did you blow something up?

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Re: [newbie] CLAM AV

2003-06-17 Thread Todd Slater
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 10:01:59AM -0400, Michael Scottaline wrote:
 On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:42:47 -0400
 Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled furiously:
 
  Is anybody using CLAM antivirus? I have a couple of questions about it.
  
  Todd
  
  
 
 Hi Todd,
 I'm using it as a plugin for Sylpheed [0.9.0claws].  I've tested it by
 e-mailing myself an infected file as an attachment and CLAM caught it and
 put it into my Infected? folder.  Seems to work fine shrug
 Mike

Sounds good, I didn't realize there was a plugin for Sylpheed.

I'm looking for a free mail scanner solution for a server--like
something to sit between Postfix and the recipient so mail gets scanned
before it gets sent on.

I've read that amavisd-new and clam can work together, but I haven't
found a newbie-friendly guide yet.

Todd

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Re: [newbie] Install - i'm about to take a sledgehammer to my computer

2003-06-17 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Monday 16 June 2003 11:20 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 16 Jun 2003 at 21:09, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
  Think we should tell crak600 that the appropriate screws to retain a
  Philips CD drive would have Phillips heads? Therefore, he'll need what
  some electrical engineers refer to as a positive screwdriver (as
  opposed to a flat bladed screwdrive, which the same EE would call
  negative). -- cmg

 i'm relatively young (almost 26)but my dad has been an electrical
 engineer since i was about 5 years old, and i've NEVER, EVER
 heard him refer to screwdrivers as positive or negitive!

 that was pretty good, i needed a laugh!  thanks!

crak600:
Glad you liked it. I first heard that line 30+ years ago from my 
brother-in-law, an EE. (I'm a retired mechanical engineer.) Interesting 
followup: Lufkin marks the top of their screwdriver heads with large + or - 
symbols.
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Re: Re[4]: [newbie] Samba wizard to help installation?

2003-06-17 Thread Trevor Rhodes
Stephen,

 I'd reckon that Johnnie-boy could beat up, er, that Canuck guy! And
 maybe, er, uh, Chris Rock? (Ya ever notice that for a 63 year old he
 ain't got very many wrinkles?)

You too could look like that if you were covered with a 'liberal' coating of 
cold cheese whiz.  :^)

 Regards
  Trevor Rhodes
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[newbie] Cleanup a failed install

2003-06-17 Thread Ralph Bagwell



I have now several suggestions and "howtos" on 
cleaning up my failed install from you kind people -many thanks - Seems that 
removing partitions for the Linux install is the answer - I am now doing what 
all said do - backing up to another drive on my LAN - 

I notice that Partition Magic offers the option to 
"Delete partition" - anything wrong with using that?

I am now wondering if I should somehow delete the 
LILO or can I just leave it . My next effort is to try to install Morphix to 
disk - it among others was the onlyversion that installed (the versions 
that workwholly from bootable CDs) and it offers desktop icon to 
install to disk - (perfect for a real newbie)


[newbie] Changing Camera Media

2003-06-17 Thread John Richard Smith
Out there in the land of the free, they tell me all digital cameras now 
use something other than smart cards , is that true, and if so what type 
of media ?

John

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Re: [newbie] Cleanup a failed install

2003-06-17 Thread João Candido Araujo Milasch Filho



I'm sorry, i didnt saw the beggining of the 
discussion. But ill put my points here. when i do something that i mess up my 
system, and i want to reinstall it, i just put my installation cd, boot from it, 
use the same partitions for the new install, but i check the "format" option. 
so, before the file copy starts, the install program will format and clear the 
files.

when i dont want to reinstall, i do like you said. 
execute partition magic, delete the partitions where i've installed linux 
before, and resize my other OS partition or just live it for the next install. 


to clear out lilo from the boot, i just execute 
fdisk with the option "/mbr". If you are executing windows nt or nt technologies 
based windows, boot from a 98 floppy disk where you have fdisk.exe and execute 
the "fdisk /mbr". That will clear out lilo from the mbr.

i hope i helped

Milasch

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ralph 
  Bagwell 
  To: Mandrake Newbie List 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:20 
  AM
  Subject: [newbie] Cleanup a failed 
  install
  
  I have now several suggestions and "howtos" on 
  cleaning up my failed install from you kind people -many thanks - Seems that 
  removing partitions for the Linux install is the answer - I am now doing what 
  all said do - backing up to another drive on my LAN - 
  
  I notice that Partition Magic offers the option 
  to "Delete partition" - anything wrong with using that?
  
  I am now wondering if I should somehow delete the 
  LILO or can I just leave it . My next effort is to try to install Morphix to 
  disk - it among others was the onlyversion that installed (the versions 
  that workwholly from bootable CDs) and it offers desktop icon to 
  install to disk - (perfect for a real 
newbie)


Re: [newbie] Changing Camera Media

2003-06-17 Thread Todd Slater
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 04:07:27PM +0100, John Richard Smith wrote:
 Out there in the land of the free, they tell me all digital cameras now 
 use something other than smart cards , is that true, and if so what type 
 of media ?
 
 
 John

Smart Media, Compact Flash, and  now I'm seeing a lot of SD (secure digital)
and MMC (multimedia card). I don't know much about SD except that they
cost more and are slower than CF. I know nothing about the MMC cards.

Todd

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Re: [newbie] NTFS ?

2003-06-17 Thread eric huff
  I had the same problems as you did,Discdrake will not let
 you shrink the NTFS drive,this not a Linux problem.It's caused by XP
 building non-existent swap files on your Hard Drive,it does not matter
 how many times you run Defrag of Scandisk,it will not play.

The first time i installed, i had no trouble shrinkin it.  Latere, after 
getting rid of stuff in windows, (and haveing to reinstally ML9.1) 
diskdrake told me the partition was too fragmented to shrink.  As you, i 
had defragged many times.

Not sure why it behaved differently...

eric

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[newbie] favorite ssh for windows?

2003-06-17 Thread eric huff
Hi folks,

Anyone have a favorite ssh program for win2000?  I need to get it on my 
machine at work.

I googled, but there seemed to be too many choices.

Thanks!
eric

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[newbie] Bookmarks in Galeon

2003-06-17 Thread Maurice O'Connor
I have tried to put a current page into bookmarks.  I can't find a
solution although I looked at every option provided by the menu system. 
I am new to Galeon and maybe I messed up somewhere or I don't know what
to look for.  Is there a way? 
TIA.
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[newbie] Failed runing acrobat reader 5 for linux?

2003-06-17 Thread Teddy Widhi Laksono
Hi, i have installed acroread5 (Acrobat Reader 5) for linux. after i 
installed and i runing it, i failed to show up the acroread on mandrake 9.1. 
and the warning is Charset UTF-8 not supported, using ISO8859-1. 
Aborted. Why? something wrong with my installation or some package i have 
to remove to runing acroread?

Teddy

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Re: [newbie] favorite ssh for windows?

2003-06-17 Thread Tim Clark
Hi Eric,

Putty is small and fantastic:

http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html

Tim
- Original Message - 
From: eric huff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 4:46 PM
Subject: [newbie] favorite ssh for windows?


 Hi folks,

 Anyone have a favorite ssh program for win2000?  I need to get it on my
 machine at work.

 I googled, but there seemed to be too many choices.

 Thanks!
 eric








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Re: [newbie] Bookmarks in Galeon

2003-06-17 Thread Technoslick
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 11:49, Maurice O'Connor wrote:
 I have tried to put a current page into bookmarks.  I can't find a
 solution although I looked at every option provided by the menu system. 
 I am new to Galeon and maybe I messed up somewhere or I don't know what
 to look for.  Is there a way? 
 TIA.

To Add a Currently Displayed Web Page:

1) Click on Bookmarks Icon above.

2) Click on Add Bookmark.

3) Done!


To Add a Bookmark manually:

1) Click on Bookmarks Icon above.

2) Click on Edit Bookmarks.

3) Click on New Bookmark Icon above.

4) Look for New Site entry in list of Bookmarks shown and make sure
highlighted.

5) Click on Properties Icon above (or right-click on highlighted New
Site)

6) Fill in the information for Bookmark being created.

7) Done!


Note: When Bookmarks are made from currently displayed Web pages they
are thrown in at the end of your Bookmarks list. To place them in a
folder of your choice, you must go into Edit Bookmarks and do so
manually.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Installation problems

2003-06-17 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:17:13 -0400 (GMT)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

big huge snipperama

Please set your line wrap at 72 characters or less, many people's mail
clients cannot handle such huge paragraphs. In your mail apps prefs,
there should be something to set this.


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RE: [newbie] favorite ssh for windows?

2003-06-17 Thread Frankie
WinSCP.. 

looks and works just like an FTP client.
http://winscp.vse.cz/eng/


TerraTerm pro
Looks like a Telnet client..
(is a telnet client)
http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA002416/teraterm.html


TTSSH
The SSH plugin for TerraTerm that enables it to work with SSH.

http://www.zip.com.au/~roca/ttssh.html



All are totally free programs.


rgds

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi folks,

Anyone have a favorite ssh program for win2000?  I need to get it on my 
machine at work.

I googled, but there seemed to be too many choices.

Thanks!
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Re: [newbie] favorite ssh for windows?

2003-06-17 Thread stormjumper
i second that
reasons (amongst others):
1. single exe file
2. no messy install/uninstall
3. advanced configuration options
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From: Tim Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 23:54
Subject: Re: [newbie] favorite ssh for windows?


 Hi Eric,

 Putty is small and fantastic:

 http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html

 Tim
 - Original Message - 
 From: eric huff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 4:46 PM
 Subject: [newbie] favorite ssh for windows?


  Hi folks,
 
  Anyone have a favorite ssh program for win2000?  I need to get it on my
  machine at work.
 
  I googled, but there seemed to be too many choices.
 
  Thanks!
  eric
 
 


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Re: [newbie] Changing Camera Media

2003-06-17 Thread John Richard Smith
Todd Slater wrote:

On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 04:07:27PM +0100, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

Out there in the land of the free, they tell me all digital cameras now 
use something other than smart cards , is that true, and if so what type 
of media ?

John
   

Smart Media, Compact Flash, and  now I'm seeing a lot of SD (secure digital)
and MMC (multimedia card). I don't know much about SD except that they
cost more and are slower than CF. I know nothing about the MMC cards.
Todd

 

Over here they are said to be going over to something called

XD Picture Cards

whatever they are, anyone know much about them.
Here in the uk they are flogging of stocks of smartcard digital cameras as a result of 
the changeover.
John



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Re: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Installation problems

2003-06-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Joe Hill wrote:

Please set your line wrap at 72 characters or less, many people's mail
clients cannot handle such huge paragraphs. In your mail apps prefs,
there should be something to set this.

Sorry, there is not.  I am using a webmail client
currently since my Mandrake installation is down
while I try to figure out the problem with X.

According to the Nvidia forums, I am not the
only person with this problem but that is of
little comfort.  I will try to put in CR's
in future messages to force the wrap to some-
thing more normal.  How is this? 

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[newbie] Mini-Internet Provider

2003-06-17 Thread João Candido Araujo Milasch Filho




Hi,
I sent the following message to expert list, but i 
think its a newbie question, so, i'm sending here. thanks for all.

" Hello, 


 I'm currently sharing my ADSL internet 
with my sister. But she uses much less internet than I do, and she dont want to 
pay half of the ADSL costs for that. So I will charge her for hour or give her a 
hour/mounth quote. She will connect on my Mini Internet Provider by LAN 
withWindows. I need to know which services I can use for that problem. I 
would like to limit the bandwith too (I got 300kbps, and like to give her max 
150).

 Can anyone lead me soI can 
google for the configure informations?

Thanks all

Milasch"


Re: [newbie] Installed...part 2..what can i do now......

2003-06-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 17 Jun 2003 2:56 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 17 Jun 2003 at 1:50, FemmeFatale wrote:
  agreed... i suspect i hold the record for most reinstalls in one
  day  fastest OS crasher in the western hemisphere...lol...
  and all i do is surf, email, IM  um... fubar the system as much
  as possible.  :D

 prepare to lose that title as i'm completely clueless when it comes
 to any form of programmingi know how to install programs in
 windows and that's about it!  i didn't have mandrake installed on
 the computer for more than an hour (and was only actually IN
 mandrake for maybe 20 minutes) and i got it all screwed up!  i'm
 learningand now that i got AIM up, i don't need to go back to
 windows as much

 :)

If it ain't broke - you ain't trying hard enough g

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Re: [newbie] Changing Camera Media

2003-06-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 17 Jun 2003 5:22 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
 Todd Slater wrote:
 Smart Media, Compact Flash, and  now I'm seeing a lot of SD
  (secure digital) and MMC (multimedia card). I don't know much
  about SD except that they cost more and are slower than CF. I
  know nothing about the MMC cards.
 
 Todd

 Over here they are said to be going over to something called

 XD Picture Cards

 whatever they are, anyone know much about them.
 Here in the uk they are flogging of stocks of smartcard digital
 cameras as a result of the changeover.

xD is a format jointly agreed by FujiFilm and Olympus.  I don't know 
whether anyone else has adopted it.  My FujiFilm S304 is xD.  Someone 
(Adolfo, I think) had an xD camera working under 9.0, but mine wasn't 
recognised until the 2.4.21 kernel.  I installed that with 9.0 and it 
worked fine.  Of course there is no problem at all with 9.1.

Physically they are about half the size of a SmartMedia card, and 
store at a much higher density.  They use less power, and store the 
pics quicker.

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Installation problems

2003-06-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 17 Jun 2003 2:23 pm, JoeHill wrote:
 On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:17:13 -0400 (GMT)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 big huge snipperama

 Please set your line wrap at 72 characters or less, many people's
 mail clients cannot handle such huge paragraphs. In your mail apps
 prefs, there should be something to set this.

I did wonder which email client bjp used - it wasn't obvious from the 
headers.  In kmail it scaled if you shrank the windows.

Anne

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Installation problems

2003-06-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 17 Jun 2003 5:26 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Joe Hill wrote:
 Please set your line wrap at 72 characters or less, many people's
  mail clients cannot handle such huge paragraphs. In your mail
  apps prefs, there should be something to set this.

 Sorry, there is not.  I am using a webmail client
 currently since my Mandrake installation is down
 while I try to figure out the problem with X.

 According to the Nvidia forums, I am not the
 only person with this problem but that is of
 little comfort.  I will try to put in CR's
 in future messages to force the wrap to some-
 thing more normal.  How is this?

Very considerate

Anne

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Re: [newbie] Bookmarks in Galeon

2003-06-17 Thread Technoslick
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 13:52, Douglas Bainbridge wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 17:04, Technoslick wrote:
  On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 11:49, Maurice O'Connor wrote:
   I have tried to put a current page into bookmarks.  I can't find a
   solution although I looked at every option provided by the menu system. 
   I am new to Galeon and maybe I messed up somewhere or I don't know what
   to look for.  Is there a way? 
   TIA.
  
 
  
 snip
 
  Note: When Bookmarks are made from currently displayed Web pages they
  are thrown in at the end of your Bookmarks list
 INSERT - 
 
 NOTE: In Galeon 1.3.3 they are placed in 'New Bookmarks' instead

Beg to differ, Doug. I'm running Galeon 1.3.3 and they surely go to the
unassigned section of the list, under no folders. Have you make an
adjustment in the settings to cause yours to do this? It's been like
this for as long as I can remember, as it is in Mozilla, too.

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Re: [newbie] Max HD size backup?

2003-06-17 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
rikona wrote:

Hello,

I'm considering using MD as a file server for the local net. What
determines the largest hard disk size that I can use with MD - file
system, BIOS, or 

They don't make a single drive larger than what Mandrake can handle as
far as I know.  Are you planning on using RAID to group a bunch of
drives together?  If  you are planning on using RAID it's also unlikely
you will outgrow what Mandrake can handle.  The file size and file
system limit for the reiserfs file system is 17.6 TB on 32 bit systems.
http://www.namesys.com/faq.html#reiserfsspecs

The short answer is: money is what determines the largest disk size that
you can use with Mandrake. :-)


This brings up the issue of complete backups, most likely to another
drive in a removable bay. What is the most reliable/easiest/fastest
way to do:

(1) a complete backup (one that can restore a bare computer to the way
it was).

(2) a backup of just 'data' files (simple copies of many dirs).

  

It depends on what your needs are.  Do you want to be able to restore
the entire drive or just the data files?

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Re: [newbie] Changing Camera Media

2003-06-17 Thread John Richard Smith
Anne Wilson wrote:

On Tuesday 17 Jun 2003 5:22 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

Todd Slater wrote:
   

Smart Media, Compact Flash, and  now I'm seeing a lot of SD
(secure digital) and MMC (multimedia card). I don't know much
about SD except that they cost more and are slower than CF. I
know nothing about the MMC cards.
Todd
 

Over here they are said to be going over to something called

XD Picture Cards

whatever they are, anyone know much about them.
Here in the uk they are flogging of stocks of smartcard digital
cameras as a result of the changeover.
   

xD is a format jointly agreed by FujiFilm and Olympus.  I don't know 
whether anyone else has adopted it.  My FujiFilm S304 is xD.  Someone 
(Adolfo, I think) had an xD camera working under 9.0, but mine wasn't 
recognised until the 2.4.21 kernel.  I installed that with 9.0 and it 
worked fine.  Of course there is no problem at all with 9.1.

Physically they are about half the size of a SmartMedia card, and 
store at a much higher density.  They use less power, and store the 
pics quicker.

Anne

 

Thank you Anne I didn't know about them at all.

I will look into it a bit further myself.

John

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Re[2]: [newbie] Max HD size backup?

2003-06-17 Thread rikona
Hello Brant,

Tuesday, June 17, 2003, 11:10:22 AM, you wrote:

BF They don't make a single drive larger than what Mandrake can
BF handle as far as I know.

Very nice!

BF Are you planning on using RAID to group a bunch of drives
BF together?  If  you are planning on using RAID it's also unlikely
BF you will outgrow what Mandrake can handle.

I wasn't - I seem to have reasonable reliability with current HD's,
and can afford a short recovery process if need be.

BF The file size and file system limit for the reiserfs file system
BF is 17.6 TB on 32 bit systems.

I'm using ext3 now. Is that also huge?

BF The short answer is: money is what determines the largest disk size that
BF you can use with Mandrake. :-)

Ah, yes. There's always *that* limit. :-)


This brings up the issue of complete backups, most likely to another
drive in a removable bay. What is the most reliable/easiest/fastest
way to do:

(1) a complete backup (one that can restore a bare computer to the way
it was).

(2) a backup of just 'data' files (simple copies of many dirs).

  

BF It depends on what your needs are.  Do you want to be able to restore
BF the entire drive or just the data files?

Both. I do periodic complete/disaster backups, with much more frequent
data-only backups. [Yeah, yeah, I know - I should do more frequent
backups This is a recorded announcement.] :-)

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Re: [newbie] The Mysterious Vanishing Title Bar

2003-06-17 Thread Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 17 Jun 2003 6:12 pm, Glenn wrote:
 On Sunday 15 June 2003 08:29 am, Steven Broos wrote:
  On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 00:11, Glenn wrote:
   Can anybody tell me whether there's an easy way to recover the title
   bars for my apps in MDK 9.1?  I got into a fix where I had a couple of
   Konsole sessions that wouldn't kill, and the process of attempting to
   kill them made the title bar non-existent on every application I opened
   thereafter (and even after a clean restart of the machine), and apps
   are
   non-movable. Menu selections are still available.  Additionally, of
   course the minimize/maximize/and close icons are gone.  Any help for a
   newbie (even after four months)??
  
   Glenn
 
  Checkout your window-manager ?  If it is running, try switching to
  another one, then back to the one you used before.  Try choosing another
  theme ?
 
  Steven

 After a couple of days of swapping around between WMs, I'm still having
 problems with KDE.  Gnome, IceWM, and the others I've tried, work fine.
 Nothing I do to KDE, though, seems to bring back the missing items.  MCC
 and all other configuration utilities that require root access don't allow
 me access to the password field.  What the heck could have gotten so
 discombobulated?  Yikes.

Rename the .kde folder in your home to something else. Next time you log into 
KDE it will create a new one with default settings. You can then move setup 
files out of the old folder into the new one.

derek

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Re: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Installation problems

2003-06-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Tom Brinkman wrote:

Short.  Suggestion tho, if you have an email composer others 
object to, make a sig with the last character in it at  72 chars.
Then you've got a guide to use CR's while typing.

I appreciate the tip.  I would rather get my MDK
working and go back to a real email client like
Kmail grin.  I have two leads that I will try tonight,
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[newbie] video editing

2003-06-17 Thread fifner the dragon
Hi,

is there anyone who can recomend a good video editing program like final cut or 
premiere?

Thanks in advance,
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Re: [newbie] Mini-Internet Provider

2003-06-17 Thread João Candido Araujo Milasch Filho
Thanx All for the help! Getting home, ill try to do those things. :
And ill not let my sister use something so expensive to me for free. if she
at least deserve it, i could think! Hehehehe

Thanks again!
:P
- Original Message - 
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mini-Internet Provider


 On Tuesday 17 Jun 2003 5:42 pm, João Candido Araujo Milasch Filho wrote:
  Hi,
  I sent the following message to expert list, but i think its a newbie
  question, so, i'm sending here. thanks for all.
 
   Hello,
 
 
 I'm currently sharing my ADSL internet with my sister. But she uses
much
  less internet than I do, and she dont want to pay half of the ADSL costs
  for that. So I will charge her for hour or give her a hour/mounth quote.
  She will connect on my Mini Internet Provider by LAN with Windows. I
need
  to know which services I can use for that problem. I would like to limit
  the bandwith too (I got 300kbps, and like to give her max 150).
 
 Can anyone lead me so I can google for the configure informations?
 
  Thanks all
 
  Milasch

 The standard shorewall firewall in your computer can do traffic shaping to
 limit bandwidth.
 http://www.shorewall.net/traffic_shaping.htm
 However it needs to be enabled in the kernel as well. I am not sure if the
 stock Mandrake kernel has it. You might have to do a kernel recompile.

 As for accounting you could run a Squid proxy server which would have the
 benefit of speeding up Interet access for you both, and you can use the
logs
 from Squid for accounting. (There are packages which will process the logs
 for you) Run Privoxy at the same time and you can get rid of annoying
adverts
 and pop ups for her. Now thats worth paying for!
 http://www.squid-cache.org/
 http://www.privoxy.org/

 Squid and privoxy are both on your install CDs


 On the other hand you could just be nice to her and let her have free
access
 :-)

 derek

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Re: [newbie] Install - iit's working...almost

2003-06-17 Thread g


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 17 Jun 2003 at 7:36, g wrote:

no, never ran MD5.  i looked into the program and got that 
uhhh feeling, as in one of those...what do i do with THAT?!  i 
think most of the origonal problems were just user error though.
should have asked what to do with it. we would have even told you
  'where to stick it'.
there are no stupid questions, only dumb mistakes by not asking.

how many hours have you spent with it??? { do i hear a snicker }

in essence, had you run md5 first thing after download,
you would have found problem at front end.
i, and others, are at fault for not insisting that you run md5
before making further attempt of 'feeding you'.  lol w/bwg
so, again, remember, check sums can be used to check a sum total of a file.

if your check sums do not match, you have a bad file. tfs.

in closing, 'live and learn. die and forget. may you learn long.'

peace out.

tc,hago.

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Re: [newbie] Bookmarks in Galeon

2003-06-17 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons




Charlie wrote:

  quoting Technoslick; Tuesday 17 June 2003 12:02 pm:
snip

  
  
Beg to differ, Doug. I'm running Galeon 1.3.3 and they surely go to the
unassigned section of the list, under no folders. Have you make an
adjustment in the settings to cause yours to do this? It's been like
this for as long as I can remember, as it is in Mozilla, too.

T

  
  
In Mozilla 1.3.1 (and previous as far as I recall) if you want to save a 
bookmark for the current page; click "Bookmarks" then "File Bookmark 
Ctrl+Shift+D," highlight the directory you want in the new dialog, then 
click OK.

The bookmark goes to the general list if you just click "Bookmark This Page." 
Ctrl+D There's also "Manage Bookmarks." Ctrl+B

The last few release of GNOME have lost functionality/features and suck in my 
opinion.

Regards;
Charlie
  

A way of adding bookmarks in Mozilla that I have found to be easier is
to:

-press F9 to open the sidebar
-select the "Bookmarks" tab (will then be selected the next time you
open the sidebar)
-arrange the bookmarks by alpabetical orer by clicking "Name" until
satisfied (this only needs to be done the first time you manage your
bookmarks in this manner)
-scroll down to the folder in which you would like to place the bookmark
-drag the icon to the left of the URL in the address bar straight to
the folder
-press F9 to close the sidebar (or leave it open)

It is much easier to access the bookmarks in this way than it to use
the Bookmarks menu in the main window because of the alphabetical
sorting. Scroll down to what you want...click on the folder to open
it...click on the bookmark itself to go to the web page.

I don't know if this works in Galeon.

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Re: [newbie] Max HD size backup?

2003-06-17 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
Here is the page I neglected to post in my last response:
http://www.linux-mag.com/2002-10/jfs_05.html

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Re: [newbie] Install - iit's working...almost

2003-06-17 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 19:53:18 +0100
g [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 
 should have asked what to do with it. we would have even told you
'where to stick it'.
 there are no stupid questions, only dumb mistakes by not asking.

You've been advised about the smug arrogant attitude before. We're not
all as brilliant and sophisticated as you, sorry. Give it a rest.

BTW, how do you know it had anything at all to do with checksums? He
said it could've been a bad ISO, but we discussed during this thread
many other possible reasons, including Windows adding erroneous
extensions or associations.

Just take it easy, it's a newbie list.

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Re: [newbie] video editing

2003-06-17 Thread Dennis Myers
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 02:46 pm, fifner the dragon wrote:
 Hi,

 is there anyone who can recomend a good video editing program like final
 cut or premiere?

 Thanks in advance,
 Fifner

I'm not sure because I am just starting to learn the rudiments of video 
editing, but you might want to have a look at cinelerra. It appears to have 
alot of bells and whistles. HTH

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Re: [newbie] Install - i'm about to take a sledgehammer to mycomputer

2003-06-17 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 19:35:07 +0100
g [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 to mark them for polack ee's, trouble is,
 their hands too big to grip metal handle.

watch it.

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Re: [newbie] Install - iit's working...almost

2003-06-17 Thread crak600
On 17 Jun 2003 at 19:53, g wrote:

 
 should have asked what to do with it. we would have even told you
'where to stick it'.

Well, honestly, what happened the first few times was i was just 
burning everything as a straight data Cd like i would for a windows 
program.  that caused me 2 days of problems.  to go along with that, 
i did move the iso images around on my hard drive and i'm sure that 
didn't help matters, winblows probably re-arranged some things on 
it's own for me.  thanks mr gates.

 
 how many hours have you spent with it??? { do i hear a snicker }
 

how many hours have i spent with what?  trying to get the Cds 
working right and a good install or how many hours have i spent 
playing around with mandrake?  the installi won't even attempt to 
count.  there were problems.  as far as playing with mandrake 
itself...i've been splitting my time between windows and mandrake.  
it's a slow transition for me, and i still have no clue how to set up the 
mail stuff (see another e-mail i sent out for details).


 in essence, had you run md5 first thing after download,
 you would have found problem at front end.
 
 i, and others, are at fault for not insisting that you run md5
 before making further attempt of 'feeding you'.  lol w/bwg
 

i'd almost be willing to put money on the problem being the way i 
was burning the CDs.  hands down.  although next time i will do the 
checksum program and make sure everything is good before i go 
through hell again.  


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Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: ...and SCO Owns Your Computer

2003-06-17 Thread JoeHill
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 23:10:12 -0400
Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

http://www.byte.com/documents/s=8276/byt1055784622054/0616_marshall.html

There is a special place in hell for this guy, very hot, very stinky,
and packed with sex-starved Hyenas.

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Re: [newbie] Install - i'm about to take a sledgehammer to mycomputer

2003-06-17 Thread Technoslick
On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 08:41, Tom Brinkman wrote:
 On Monday June 16 2003 01:44 am, Inhabitant of Zion wrote:
 
  Winrar is a form of zip program. Ohh and its mostly a windows
  program as far as I am aware. I don't know of a Linux alternative
  but I bet there is one.
 
   unrar-3.20-0.beta2.1plf rpm.  I use it everyday usin FileRoller as 
 the GUI frontend to it.  Works great, even on very large files with 
 many many partxx.rar's.
 
 
  If you are using windows you need to download a copy of winrar
  and install it to extract the image. Don't worry its freeware.
 
  Extract the image to a tmp folder and you will then have an iso
  file that Nero or any CD writer can handle.
 
  Burn the CD to disk following the CD burning software you haves
  instructions.
 
  On Sun, 15 Jun
 
  2003 19:53:51-0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   i download the iso image, it's in winrar format, i can't
   extract it and burn it or can i?  the computer won't
   install...lemme put it this way...
 
 I don't understand this.  You're d/l'g .iso images from 
 Mandrake's site and W98 see them as .rar's?  Doesn't make any sense 
 at all. 

For about a year or so, WinRAR has a built-in ability to see and open
ISO files. Furthermore, if you don't change the default settings withing
after installing, double-clicking or 'running' and ISO frm the 'Run'
command line with actually start WinRAR and show and open the ISO image.
It won't hurt it to do so as long as you don't attempt to extract the
contents. 

 This from several year old memory, but I completely borked 
 my Mandrake install, and had to use W98 to d/l the Mandrake .iso's, 
 then used EZCD Creator to make CD's so I could get back to Linux.
 No problem.
 
 If you're really d/l'g   Mandrake91-cd1-inst.i586.iso  it isn't 
 a rar archive and winrar won't extract it.

Yes, it will extract it if you let it, and do so properly. Whether
Windows can accept and protect the long file names and naming
conventions used in the files that are not Windows-legal is doubtful.

   It just needs to be 
 burnt to a cd as an image, not a data file. .iso are just one type 
 of image file, audio CD's are another, any OS. As has already been 
 suggested, check the md5sum of the iso before, and the CD after 
 burning. If those check, and the CD won't boot, most likely it's a 
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Re: [newbie] Mini-Internet Provider

2003-06-17 Thread Tobias Gunawan
--

- Original Message -



DATE: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:42:07

From: João Candido Araujo Milasch Filho [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cc: 

Hi,
I sent the following message to expert list, but i think its a newbie question, so, i'm sending here. thanks for all.

" Hello, 


 I'm currently sharing my ADSL internet with my sister. But she uses much less internet than I do, and she dont want to pay half of the ADSL costs for that. So I will charge her for hour or give her a hour/mounth quote. She will connect on my Mini Internet Provider by LAN withWindows. I need to know which services I can use for that problem. I would like to limit the bandwith too (I got 300kbps, and like to give her max 150).

 Can anyone lead me soI can google for the configure informations?

Thanks all

Milasch"


 If your sister connect to your Mini Internet Provider Switch, and the switch is a managable switch, I thinkyou can configure the switch to make it doing a bandwidth priority. I forgetthe name of thatparameter . The parameter has number startform 1 until256 (I think). I know this from CNAP class.
 Or if you are an Internet Provider I think you have proxy server. Maybe proxy server can make bandwidth priority too. I'm only guesting hee.. hee.. This is all I got.

Re: [newbie] RADEON 9500 OK on MDK 9.1?

2003-06-17 Thread FemmeFatale
At 11:00 AM 6/17/2003 +0200, you wrote:
FemmeFatale wrote:

I can't read ... german...?  Nor do I see anything there for his card.
Does that site give you 9700 drivers too???
I also don't know how to read german but it is not hard to find the 
correct driver. Well I forgot to mention these are the unified drivers 
which are for professional ATI cards and also work for normal cards. And 
they work on Radeon 8500, 9000 and 9500 here so I guess they should work 
on 9700 just fine.
Here are the direct links to drivers for different XFree86 versions:

4.1.0:
http://www.schneider-digital.de/download/ati/glx1_linux_X4.1.zip
4.2.0:
http://www.schneider-digital.de/download/ati/glx1_linux_X4.2.zip
4.3.0:
http://www.schneider-digital.de/download/ati/glx1_linux_X4.3.zip
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Re: [newbie] Help with gnome default browser

2003-06-17 Thread Terence J. Golightly
On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 20:44, Stephen Kuhn wrote:

 snip
 Directly edit the ~/home/yournamehere/.gnome/Gnome file:
 
 [URL Handlers]
 default-show=opera %s
 info-show=nautilus --no-desktop %s
 man-show=nautilus --no-desktop %s
 ghelp-show=nautilus --no-desktop %s
 
 
 ...is how yours should be edited and saved.



put this lines in the file ~/.gnome/Gnome:

http-show=opera %s
https-show=opera %s

At least if 'opera' is the command which starts the browser :-)

Steven

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Re: [newbie] Install - i'm about to take a sledgehammer to my computer

2003-06-17 Thread FemmeFatale
At 08:05 AM 6/17/2003 -0500, you wrote:
On Monday June 16 2003 05:21 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
 At 07:41 AM 6/16/2003 -0500, you wrote:
 snip
 
  If you're really d/l'g   Mandrake91-cd1-inst.i586.iso  it
  isn't a rar archive and winrar won't extract it.  It just needs
  to be burnt to a cd as an image, not a data file. .iso are just
  one type of image file, audio CD's are another, any OS. As has
  already been suggested, check the md5sum of the iso before, and
  the CD after burning. If those check, and the CD won't boot,
  most likely it's a hardware or configuration problem.
 For those of you who don't use windows...

 an FYI:  Win98  later will see ANY compressed image (.iso, .rar,
 .zip, .tar,.bzip, .nrg... it goes on) as a COMPRESSED file.
   W98 should see it as a compressed file. Any OS should recognize
an image file (such as .iso) as a compressed archive. They are.
.tar's aren't compressed, .tar.gz's are tho.
snip my point was that yes the OS is displaying its icons  stuff 
correctly...or so it thinks..but these are minor details that will fry a 
newbs brain so lets not dwell on them ... my post was more of an FYI for 
others.  And to say, don't worry about the icons themselves. :D

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Re: [newbie] OT, gaming... Screw SCO. :D

2003-06-17 Thread FemmeFatale
At 09:27 AM 6/17/2003 -0400, you wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 01:56:16 -0600
FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
snip
 hm...oh yes FireArms for Half Life. If you like UT (U. Terror) Try FA.
  It
 rocks hard w/out the spamminess of UT  the You MUST have team
 tactics to win on pubs mentality..nor are the players all UBER L33T
 pricks who kick you for just trying to learn...least not where I play!
  Come play on
 Tracys Trailer Park or Eck's: The Slums!  :)

 If you need help with the MOD or whatnot, come to Irc on gamesnet in
 #clanpop.  We'll play...hell you can play this on a PII 200. :D
Sorry, don't have Windows, don't use WineX. For me, it's native or
nothing, ie. Id Software basically.
--
+ Joe Hill
there are OTHER ppl on this list you know Joe, :D

wasn't meant just for you..heh.  but thats fine.  :)  Too bad ut2k3 doesn't 
work for you.  I wish it did.

-
FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt
Good Decisions Your boss Made:
We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
character from Peanuts.
- Source: Dilbert



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Re: [newbie] Is it starting to fall apart for SCO?

2003-06-17 Thread Dale Huckeby


On 16 Jun 2003, Aron Smith wrote:

 On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 07:22, JoeHill wrote:
  On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 09:01:48 -0500
  Marc Oestreicher [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
  
  This all reminds me of a t shirt that my wife has with a picture 
   of a huge eagle swooping down at a mouse. The mouse is holding a 
   big gun in 1 hand and giving the eagle the finger with the other 
   hand.
  
  Love it! Any chance of scannin' that fer us? What a great image!
 
 I think that I have the cartoon it's titled the great act of defience

  I saw it years ago. It was a scrawny, defenseless mouse with _no_ gun 
giving the finger to this fierce, glaring eagle swooping down on it, 
and was titled The last great act of defiance.

Dale Huckeby


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[newbie] Multiple boot

2003-06-17 Thread Johan Scheepers
Hi,
I have 3 OS on 1 drive /dev/hde
1 = Dos /dev/hde1
2 = Redhat 9.0/dev/hde5
3 = Mandrake 9.1/dev/hde7
   swap = /dev/hde6
Why /dev/hde   and not hda - I use ultra dma ide card

Installed - dos -then -redhat- then -mandrake

Usually Mandrake pickup everything nicely like what is on hde and hdg and
config LILO without problem BUT I have not previously installed a 3rd OS on
same drive. I know how with 2 OS on first and 2 OS on second drive. I am
sure it is possible because I understand that LILO can handle up to 16 OS's
and 2 drives.

Mandrake did config redhat on hde5 but with mandrake image and init - If
redhat is picked on GUI it can not complete the boot.

I do not seem to be able to find info on my sort of setup.
There is a lot NT/linux - windows/linux.
Kindly please I need the part to insert in LILO to boot redhat from GUI boot
startup.
Redhat works fine if I use the bootdisk I made with installation. It so
slow.

All this is experimenting and on a spare drive so if I have to reinstall
everything OK fine - I have the time and thats how I learn.
Thanks
Johan
.
May this be a good day for learning


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