[newbie-it] fotocamera digitale
ciao a tutti, circa un mese fa ho acquistato una fotocamera digitale(Kodak Easy Share cx4300)avendo tribolato un po prima di vedere se supportata dal pinguino sono riuscito a scoprire che di fatto essendo USB-PTP è supportata dal software gphoto2.Nella MDK 9.1 questo software è installato di default solo che quando vado a collegare la fotocamera al pc non viene riconosciuta,o meglio viene riconosciuto un modello diverso dal mio e dunque non funziona.Dunque chiedo cosa devo fare per far riconoscere alle 2 distro sopra citate la mia macchinetta e poter cosi' iniziare a sfruttarla anche con il pinguino. Grazie a tutti NIC -- ...siate sempre capaci di sentire nel+profondo qualsiasi ingiustizia commessa contro chiunque,in qualsiasi parte del mondo.È la qualità+bella di un rivoluzionario che
Re: [newbie-it] Caps Lock
* miKe ha scritto: Alle Thursday 14 August 2003 08:27, in merito a [newbie-it] Caps Lock, Benedetto Santarella ha scritto: Salve a tutti, esiste un metodo per attivare all'accenzione in cups lock??? aggiungere a un qualsiasi script di avvio: echo attivo il tastierino numerico... for tty in /dev/tty[1-8]; do setleds -D +num $tty done miKe se non ti sei accorto, verifica la data del tuo sistema perchè il messaggio di cui sopra me lo sono ritrovato con il numero uno nella lista dei miei messaggi elencati per data, infatti il tuo è datato 1988 ;) Ciao, Giuseppe. -- GNU/Linux Powered Red Hat 9.A (Shrike) Kernel 2.4.20
Re: [newbie-it] fotocamera digitale
* NIC ha scritto: chiedo cosa devo fare per far riconoscere la mia macchinetta e poter cosi' iniziare a sfruttarla anche con il pinguino. So che gtkam ha preso il posto di gphoto e che si appoggia alle nuove librerie libgphoto2, mentre gphoto non è più supportato e lo sviluppo si è fermato da tempo. Comunque se dai il seguente comando: $ gphoto2 --list-cameras ti accorgi che il tuo modello non è supportato, si potrebbe tentare di evitare l'autodetect e cambiare con un altro modello kodak con il seguente comando: $ gphoto2 --camera model Se dai il seguente comando: $ gphoto2 -h avrai una lista interessante di comandi per verificare il collegamento USB. La via classica per verificare se il kernel è stato compilato adeguatamente è fare una ricerca nel file /boot/config-2.4.x Se non trovi il supporto per usb_storage e SCSI, dovrai ricompilare il kernel abilitando come modulo USB Mass Storage support e SCSI support in makeneuconfig. Se invece sono già presenti probabilmente dovrai rinunciare a gtkam e attuare una via manuale per leggere il filesystem VFAT utilizzato dalla memoria della tua macchina digitale, la cui lettura è simile alla lettura di memorie su penne USB che vengono emulate da linux come minidischi scsi, quindi la gestione del contenuto diventa facile. Crea un punto di mount per la tua fotocamera in modalità root: # mkdir /mnt/fotocamera se hai solo dispositivi IDE effettua il mount sempre in modalità root con: # mount -t auto /dev/sda1 /mnt/fotocamera se invece hai anche dispositivi scsi devi porre sdx1 al posto di sda1 dove x è la lettera corrispondente all'ultima device scsi della catena. Entra cosi in questa directory come se fosse un harddisk e guarda se leggi i file nella memoria della tua fotocamera, ovviamente potresti avere la possibiltà anche di scriverci e gestire le tue foto con i potenti Konqueror o Nautilus che spesso vengono sottovalutati, questi gestiscono le miniature per le tue foto, facendoti dimenticare gtkam. Se tutto funziona, si potrebbe successivamente effettuare la procedura automatica del montaggio della tua fotocamera nel filesystem. Ciao, Giuseppe. -- GNU/Linux Powered Red Hat 9.A (Shrike) kernel 2.4.20
[newbie-it] set user_agent
Syd ti scrivo per quando ritornerai dalle ferie. Dopo numerose prove e compilazioni di vari sorgenti RPM di mutt compresa la versione devel 1.5.4 che non mi ha convinto per i tanti difetti riscontrati, sono ritornato sui miei passi e quel problema sui messaggi posposti che mi occultava l'header X-Mailer, l'ho risolto con la versione mutt-1.4.1 della mia RH (nonostante il problema di postponed la 1.4.1 è risultata sempre la migliore nelle prove suddette) intervenendo questa volta in muttrc settando user_agent=yes che era stato messo in unset per lasciare posto all'informazione del client da me arbitrariamente specificata nell'header X-Mailer o User_Agent. Ho fatto delle prove inviandomi un messaggio non in linea e sebbene gli headers relativi alla specifica del client non ci fossero più, compare comunque fra gli headers del messaggio inviato la riga User_Agent con la versione del MUA in automatico. Nel man è spiegato che set user_agent=yes introduce, indipendentemente da ciò che viene specificato in X-Mailer o User_Agent, l'header User_Agent nel messaggio solo nel momento in cui viene effettivamente inviato riportando l'indicazione della versione attuale di mutt utilizzata per l'invio. Concludo dicendo che per dar posto a questa funzione ho dovuto necessariamente escludere gli headers X-Mailer e User Agent in muttrc perchè nell'invio immediato del messaggio appena scritto e quindi senza posporre verrebbero elencati anche questi e quindi avrei avuto in questo caso una ridondanza e non più un occultamento dell'informazione del client usato. Ciao, Giuseppe. -- GNU/Linux Powered Red Hat 9.A (Shrike) Kernel 2.4.20
Re: [newbie-it] Caps Lock
Alle Saturday 16 August 2003 15:45, in merito a Re: [newbie-it] Caps Lock, Giuseppe Ferruzzi ha scritto: miKe se non ti sei accorto, verifica la data del tuo sistema sono su una macchina non mia, con batterie scariche.. il tempo di far andare il portatile.. scusate Ciao, Giuseppe. -- bye miKe _ Slackware 8.0 GNU/[EMAIL PROTECTED] 313T R.U.#219755 SRU#755
Re: [newbie] Mdk is cash flow positive!
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 22:57, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Thursday 14 August 2003 07:40 pm, Alex Weiss wrote: Andrei Raevsky wrote: I bought the Definative Manual and as soon as I got it the pages began to fall out. Phone calls to and e-mails have been unsucessful. They have fairly well closed all lines of communications except if you want to buy something. But beware if you want satisfaction concerning a defective product. At least you got a copy. I've been waiting for my copy of the Definative Manual (9.0 version) since February 28 2003! After many emails i've only got promises to show for it. Most recently (a month ago) they said they were going to send the new 9.1 version. I thought that was nice of them. I'm sure I'll never see it though. I hope Mandrake turns around. I like the distro. There are a lot of things to like about Mandrake. The Store is not one of them. Its modus operandi seems to be, Bill immediately. Ignore all inquiries and complaints. Ship the product when you happen to be in the mood. There have been earlier threads on this list about experiences similar to yours, and you'll find more of them at the Club's Trolls forum back in mid-May during the 9.1 release. (I authored a few of them. While I got some sympathy from other posters, I never received any response from anyone at Mandrake. However, I did eventually get my Power Pack CD's.) I'd hoped that this behavior would have been remedied by now, but evidently it hasn't and I'm very disappointed. Ignoring paying customers is NOT a successful business model -- unless you're a cable TV provider. You might try posting to the Trolls forum (you don't have to be a member); I'm told that Deno monitors it and tries to resolve Store-related complaints. Not sure about that, although I did eventually get my CD's. -- cmg It's way past time that something was done about the store problems. There has been alot that hasn't been said about store problems in order to give them time to have rectified the problem, but if rectification is not forthcoming then perhaps other means of garnering some attention is warranted. LX -- °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk *Catch Star Trek Enterprise, Wednesdays on UPN* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grip or RipperX
On Saturday 16 August 2003 12:58 am, Dennis Myers wrote: Yes, and it shows nothing for error messages. Just putts along. I wonder if it is not my CDROM. It is an older 24X and maybe has a problem with DMA or something. What does hdparm show about it? Have you tried it with both DMA enabled and disabled? BTW, is it SCSI or IDE? Other possibilites - bad cable? If its IDE are your HD and CD on the same channel? (master/slave). Might want to change that if it is... Just some random thoughts. -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux saves MS's butt.
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 10:59, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Friday August 15 2003 05:02 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: On 16 Aug 2003 07:49:28 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonder if they're going to change their official stance on linux and OSS now that they've had to resort to linux to save their ass? No, once it has passed, they'll probably just fire the tech who set it up and disavow any knowledge of it. Charles Well someone please tell me how you'd run Microsoft-IIS/6.0 on Linux ?? ... or is the server just spoofed? HONEYPOT, mate. Virtualised. -- Sat Aug 16 16:25:01 EST 2003 16:25:01 up 12 days, 20:13, 3 users, load average: 1.19, 1.12, 1.10 - |____ | illawarra computer services| | /-oo /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn | | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * huz|taff comment ca s'appelle deja le site avec les cartes huz|taff mappi.com a pas l'air d'etre ca huz|taff celui qui me dit xplanet je le tape rabbit magicthegathering.con #gentoofr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] VMWare Workstation 3.2.0 Serial Number
From: Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 20:29:26 -0500 I believe there's a crack in this theory I gave up that theory of operation when I quit winsux 'Sides, the good cracks were gettin harder to find anyhow ; Linux has made an honest man out'a me Seriously I agree with your sentiment about cracks in general. But, it seems that everything that is involved with MS (and you have to have a licensed copy of ms-win to run as a guest) gets tainted. After I received Stephen's message about the time-limited s/n, but before his hint, I gave VMWare a telephone call to see what they had to say for themselves and how long the time period would be for. The salesman confirmed that I had a legitimate user license and was entitled to an s/n to use the software. However, according to him, vmware only provides them for the current version. So to get an s/n, I'd have to download a version that I didn't need or want and then install that version instead of the one I had. He confirmed that Workstation 4 had only been released in April and that Workstation 3.2.0 would also be entitled to at least 18 months of web site support (no telephone or anything like that) beginning in April -- this is written on their web site. He then carefully explained to me that the hash in the user license was not the s/n, the s/n was 20 numbers in four groups of five, the hash was in four groups of eight. Frankly, I felt that VMWare was doing a bait and switch which is illegal in the country and state in which they have their corporate headquarters. After the salesman's description of the s/n, I was prepared to play around a bit with the hash to see what I could come up with. However, I had no intention of buying their software under those terms. By their own admission I am in legal possession of a licensed copy of their software, and they refuse to honor that. In general, even when dealing with MS, I abide by terms of the agreements. That's one of the reasons I've begun migrating all my systems to Linux. I can't deal with MS's licenses -- their terms are outrageous and unfair. In any event, my two cents on the subject :^). deedee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Can't retrieve mail from /var/spool/mail
On 16 Aug 2003 15:23:12 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: What about trying to run elm or pine? Already resolved, it was a corrupt spool file... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] VNC with sound?
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 08:05, Miark wrote:
Server's on the third floor, laptop on the first. And the
server's in my office--if I cranked it loud enough to reach
down there, my ears would be ringing :-)
Miark
VNC only covers graphics, not anything else. I think you connect to a sound
server like esound, NAS or arts across a network.
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RE: [newbie] Linux saves MS's butt.
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen Kuhn Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 10:22 PM To: Mandrake Newbie Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux saves MS's butt. On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 08:44, Erylon Hines wrote: Looks like that's whats been done. Any errors trying to access will have a lot to do with DNS updates not showing up on our servers for 24 hours or so (just guessing, but I've seen it before). However, their solution is pretty half-assed, and I can see all kinds of holes in their thinking. The next dns worm that's aimed at them will be getting its address from Google or somewhere similar, and not using the static address like this one apparantly does. Also, I'm beginning to wonder if there isn't more to this worm than the spin doctors would have us believe, because the solution MS may be using seems kind of extreme. They've sacrificed the update feature for hundreds of thousands of users, many of whom are going to become infected in the next 24 hours. A fishy smell, there. This is a perfect example of a Microsoft fix. Avoid the REAL issue and do something different. They're not fixing the initial problem, and they already know that they're boxs can't stand the heat. They're taking the coward's way out. I don't think they're realising that they've just fsck'ed millions of Windows users that don't have a clue about this bug or any of what's been going on. I am just waiting to see what kind of press they're going to release to make themselves look good again - I'm sure it will have heaps of spin in it... -- Sat Aug 16 15:15:00 EST 2003 15:15:00 up 12 days, 19:03, 3 users, load average: 1.52, 1.89, 2.26 - |____ | illawarra computer services| | /-oo /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn | | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Microsoft Mandatory Survey (#13) Customers who want to upgrade to Windows 98 Second Edition must now fill out a Microsoft survey online before they can order the bugfix/upgrade. Question 13: Which of the following new Microsoft products do you plan on buying within the next 6 months? A. Windows For Babies(tm) - Using an enhanced click-n-drool interface, babies will be able to learn how to use a Wintel computer, giving them a head start in living in a Microsoft-led world. B. Where In Redmond Is Carmen Sandiego?(tm) - The archvillian Sandiego has stolen the Windows source code and must be stopped before she can publish it on the Net. C. ActiveKeyboard 2000(tm) - An ergonomic keyboard that replaces useless keys like SysRq and Scroll Lock with handy keys like Play Solitaire and Visit Microsoft.com. D. Visual BatchFile(tm) - An IDE and compiler for the MS-DOS batch file language. MSNBC calls it better than Perl. Anyone dumb enough to leave a PC wide open with no protection, and got hit by this worm deserves it - Just as much as someone who runs linux with no security deserves to have their box owned. Bill Gates didn't make people idiots, God did. Hate the user, not the developer. Next... Brandon Vanderberg www.clueless.m$killedmydoggy.andi'mgonnacry.whaaa.com Linux User #34.5 | Linux machine 123amicoolyet472notyet340now?987NO!needlongersig05789 Kernel 9.12.45customsupercoolAllYourThreadsAreBelongToUs Current load = WhoGivesAFlyingFock | Average Load = NoOneDoes Number of times aterm has been run since last reboot = 12,638 (cuz people wanna know that) My signature isn't long enough to make me l33t yet... This computer is %100 Microsoft tolerant. I drive a 1971 Ford Truck. I can work on any part of it, so everybody driving anything else must suck. And the people that make those other cars are trying to take over the world and must be kill- ... er... sued. - B. Vanderberg (about 5 minutes ago) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Using Nautilus instead of Konqueror
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 13:36, Heather/Femme wrote: is there a way to get Nautilus to open up instead of Konqueror when I double click an icon I use to mount my CDWriter DVDRom? I shut off supermount as it was causing problems use those icons instead. But I want them to open Nautilus... I'd rip out Konq But I suspect it would cause no end of headaches with KDE. Ideas? If you're running Nautilus without the desktop drawing, and you slap in a CD, it SHOULD be the FM to open up - and if it's a blank, it should open up (as long as you have the additional Nautilus RPM's installed for doing burning directly through it...) Works on mine...although I still prefer doing things manually... -- Sat Aug 16 17:30:01 EST 2003 17:30:01 up 12 days, 21:18, 3 users, load average: 1.89, 1.87, 1.71 - |____ | illawarra computer services| | /-oo /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn | | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Everyone can be taught to sculpt: Michelangelo would have had to be taught how ___not to. So it is with the great programmers. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux saves MS's butt.
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 15:27, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Which is why we need to get the word out as widely as possible. Allow me to demonstrate: http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=7498 Enough said :) Has anyone submitted this to Slashdot and Newsforge yet? (grin) OH, and OSNews...and Internet News...and The Register...and Then Inquirer...and MSNBC... Yhaw! -- Sat Aug 16 17:34:59 EST 2003 17:34:59 up 12 days, 21:23, 3 users, load average: 2.57, 2.25, 1.91 - |____ | illawarra computer services| | /-oo /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn | | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * BOFH excuse #231: We had to turn off that service to comply with the CDA Bill. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux saves MS's butt.
Joe Six Pack here, Just to say that the hammer has fallen! I don't care how you say it, slice it or dice it LINUX IS SAVING WINDOWS!! ALL WHO AGREE SAY I!! Sincerely, J6P touring Japan! On Saturday 16 August 2003 7:08 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 04:58, Erylon Hines wrote: Yesand no. What I see is a cache server (akamai) running Linux. The MS site is an IIS server. It is a way for MS to use a third party to lighten the bandwidth load--having akamai serve up a cached copy of the Windows Update site. From the perspective of Joe Sixpack American just the mere fact that Microsoft is making use of linux is more than enough to bring down the hammer. -- Sent 2u on a M$ free system!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux saves MS's butt.
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 10:26, Brandon Vanderberg wrote: Anyone dumb enough to leave a PC wide open with no protection, and got hit by this worm deserves it - Just as much as someone who runs linux with no security deserves to have their box owned. Bill Gates didn't make people idiots, God did. Hate the user, not the developer. Next... Brandon Vanderberg www.clueless.m$killedmydoggy.andi'mgonnacry.whaaa.com Linux User #34.5 | Linux machine 123amicoolyet472notyet340now?987NO!needlongersig05789 Kernel 9.12.45customsupercoolAllYourThreadsAreBelongToUs Current load = WhoGivesAFlyingFock | Average Load = NoOneDoes Number of times aterm has been run since last reboot = 12,638 (cuz people wanna know that) My signature isn't long enough to make me l33t yet... This computer is %100 Microsoft tolerant. I drive a 1971 Ford Truck. I can work on any part of it, so everybody driving anything else must suck. And the people that make those other cars are trying to take over the world and must be kill- ... er... sued. - B. Vanderberg (about 5 minutes ago) __ Feel you're being a bit harsh here. Don't forget that the vast majority of computer users/car drivers/TV watchers have no idea what goes on under the hood only realise this when things go wrong. Ms has been sold on it's ease of use - and people have believed the salesmen (it's also been sold on greater security). By the time a lot of folks find out it's too late, and by that time all sorts of behind the scenes activity has been going on. Remember the greats of the past: Ford Pinto, Firestone tyres, etc. etc.? Blame the developer. Paul M. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] VMWare Workstation 3.2.0 Serial Number
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 20:29:26 -0500, Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday August 15 2003 04:38 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Look - sometimes serials numbers fall out of the sky especially when you're surfing around sites like http://www.astalavista.com - don't know where they come from, but you'd be surprised at the amount of random numbers that are generated that for some reason seem to work properly with applications that require things like serial numbers and CD keys...go figure HINT HINT HINT HINT HINT ...need any more hints? I believe there's a crack in this theory I gave up that theory of operation when I quit winsux 'Sides, the good cracks were gettin harder to find anyhow ; Linux has made an honest man out'a me Seriously If someone wants a serial or a crack I say I can't help them -- if they're going to use proprietary software, let them pay for it. It only makes open source look better. Richard -- Get up and turn I loose Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 22:13, Cody Harris wrote: The VGA option was set to 786. On starting the computer with XFree 3.x with the edited lilo, it tired to start X about 3 times then says something about failing. On logging in as root and startxing, it says Fatal server error: No valid modes found. - Original Message - From: Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? Cody, post, or mail off-list your etc/lilo.conf file. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine question
On Friday 15 August 2003 17:37, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Through the years I've noticed that quite a few people on this great list dual boots Windows occasionally. I've never had Windows on my box - and never will. But right now I have a problem : My oldest daughter just started in college and her math teacher demands her to buy a program called *Derive*. It's a math program from Texas Instruments and I've visited their website just to find out it's a Windows app only - no Unix/Linux version. Well, my daughters scuttled their preinstalled Windows-crap when they bought their computers and are using Linux on a daily basis with no problems insofar. So I told them - maybe a little too enthusiastic - that Linux can do anything, including running Windows applications through an emulator. So I just installed wine and downloaded the *Derive* program. This seems to be a file called *setup.exe*. Then, I typed *wine setup.exe* and everything seemed OK until it ask me for a *folder* for installation. The screen suggest strange *folders* like *c:\programs* etc.. (???) - I don't have such *folders*, so I typed : /usr/share/derive (having created that *folder* of course. But the program doesn't seem able to find any *folders* on my system, no matter what I type. The man pages for wine do not mention this problem, but I'm confident some of you can help me out on this - probably very trivial - hiccup. Thanks in advance Kaj Haulrich. you got me curious so I d/l the trial version of Derive, with crossover office 1.3.5 it crashes with an error message about VBOX, so no go there, but with Win4Lin (with Win98) it installs properly and will open and close the included files. As to whether it will work I can't comment as it's about 30 years since I studied maths/statistics so I can't remember enough about the subject (hangs head in shame) to try to work with it. HTH -- http://www.poogle.co.uk Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Virtual Hosts in Apache 2.0
On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 01:12:09AM -0400, HaywireMac wrote: On 15 Aug 2003 06:41:49 - Roland Cruse [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Instead of a star in the VirtualHost * directive put each of your domain names (what ZoneEdit has pointing at you). VirtualHost www.orderinchaos.org and see if that does it. I use apache on my local host and got mixed results using the * Thanks and welcome! I'll give it a shot in the AM, we just got our power Thank you. Ed Tharp recommended the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list after I mentioned the sometimes not user friendly linux usenet groups. BTW, what's with yer blank reply-to, that's kinda weird... I never paid attention to it till now. I've inserted it by hand in this email. I'am using mutt and when I reply to mail it leaves it blank I also tried with evolution and it also leaves the Reply-To: field blank. I am I missing something? Is it standard that the mail user agent (MUA) should fill it in? Roland Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux saves MS's butt.
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 03:26, Brandon Vanderberg wrote: Brandon, as I see it tho, M$ built a system designed to require expensive maintenance, as a business model. linus builds a system to 'work right' as an Operation system, as an Computer Operation System model. Let's see do I want an expensive vacuum cleaner that requires expensive repair and a certificated maintenance tech to change the bag, and it does not really have the suction, or beater brush the Other One does, and is hard to push, but once you learn where the button to allow you to push it, even a grown women can push it) , and the Other One, while free, (all I have to do is pick it up, and the manufacturer says if I like it, I can pay what I feel it is worth), made of the latest and best components, and the manufacturer says hey let us know how it works, cause we want to make it better still, and we know it ain't gonna ever be perfect, but we do have it so we think it should position itself to catch spills before they happen. Well, If I am a stock holder of Expensive Vac. company, I really like the Expensive Vac. Brand, and want everyone to think 'hey that Expensive Vac. is the way to go, heck the Other One Vacs. have a button to make it easier to push, and Other One Vacs _don't_ even have a button to make it easier to push, heck who is gonna fix your Other One vac, when the bag is full, who you gonna call?? heck I don't even know anyone certified to empty the bag on an Other One vac. (the fact that the Other One Vac. empties its own filter, is totally missed by the stockholder for Expensive Vac. Know what I mean? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux saves MS's butt.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3154117 has the headline 'Internet worm 'thwarted'' and says that MS 'implemented a series of counter-measures' 'However, a flaw in the worm may have enabled Microsoft to fend off its worst effects. The worm instructed computers to call up http://windowsupdate.com - which is an incorrect address for reaching the actual Microsoft website that houses the software patch that protects against the worm.' Paul M. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux saves MS's butt.
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 21:47, Paul wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3154117 has the headline 'Internet worm 'thwarted'' and says that MS 'implemented a series of counter-measures' 'However, a flaw in the worm may have enabled Microsoft to fend off its worst effects. The worm instructed computers to call up http://windowsupdate.com - which is an incorrect address for reaching the actual Microsoft website that houses the software patch that protects against the worm.' Paul M. ...and worded in such a way as to make themselves look less like panicked jassasses and more like some kinda thinking, ingenious heroes, ay wot mate? -- Sat Aug 16 22:00:00 EST 2003 22:00:00 up 13 days, 1:48, 3 users, load average: 1.03, 1.18, 1.23 - |____ | illawarra computer services| | /-oo /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn | | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Therefore it is necessary to learn how not to be good, and to use this knowledge and not use it, according to the necessity of the cause. -- Machiavelli Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux saves MS's butt.
Still think Dyson is the best though ed tharp wrote: On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 03:26, Brandon Vanderberg wrote: Brandon, as I see it tho, M$ built a system designed to require expensive maintenance, as a business model. linus builds a system to 'work right' as an Operation system, as an Computer Operation System model. Let's see do I want an expensive vacuum cleaner that requires expensive repair and a certificated maintenance tech to change the bag, and it does not really have the suction, or beater brush the Other One does, and is hard to push, but once you learn where the button to allow you to push it, even a grown women can push it) , and the Other One, while free, (all I have to do is pick it up, and the manufacturer says if I like it, I can pay what I feel it is worth), made of the latest and best components, and the manufacturer says hey let us know how it works, cause we want to make it better still, and we know it ain't gonna ever be perfect, but we do have it so we think it should position itself to catch spills before they happen. Well, If I am a stock holder of Expensive Vac. company, I really like the Expensive Vac. Brand, and want everyone to think 'hey that Expensive Vac. is the way to go, heck the Other One Vacs. have a button to make it easier to push, and Other One Vacs _don't_ even have a button to make it easier to push, heck who is gonna fix your Other One vac, when the bag is full, who you gonna call?? heck I don't even know anyone certified to empty the bag on an Other One vac. (the fact that the Other One Vac. empties its own filter, is totally missed by the stockholder for Expensive Vac. Know what I mean? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OF INTEREST: [Virus Alerts [Prevention: the best weaponagainstthe Blaster wor m - 08/13/03]]
HaywireMac wrote: On 14 Aug 2003 21:30:35 -0600 Heather/Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Its not the impregnable fortress That wasn't really the nature of the argument. The fact is it is *trivial* to break Windows, it will *never* be trivial to break *nix, as long as the Open Source model is preserved. There *is* a fundamental difference, as has been pointed out above quite eloquently by more technically advanced peeps than I. *nix is built from the ground up to be secure, and always will be. Windows is built from the ground up to be...well, I am not really sure. I always heard they named it Windows because it was transparent, easily opened, and easily broken! Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Spell check in OO.o
Bob Read wrote: Hi, I'm running LM9.1 and have both SO 6.0 OO.o. Spellcheck work fine on SO, but finds no errors on OO.o Any Clues? Much thanks, Bo With OOo, you have to download and install the dictionaries for the language(s) you want to use before the spellcheck will work. I haven't got round to doing it myself yet, so can't give you the procedure, but details are on the OOo website. You might also want to subscribe to the OOo users mailing list - email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - there are lots of helpful people there including linux users. Good luck Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux saves MS's butt.
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 08:01, Michael Lothian wrote: Still think Dyson is the best though sure,,, in _your_ (the real) world... ed tharp wrote: On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 03:26, Brandon Vanderberg wrote: Brandon, as I see it tho, M$ built a system designed to require expensive maintenance, as a business model. linus builds a system to 'work right' as an Operation system, as an Computer Operation System model. Let's see do I want an expensive vacuum cleaner that requires expensive repair and a certificated maintenance tech to change the bag, and it does not really have the suction, or beater brush the Other One does, and is hard to push, but once you learn where the button to allow you to push it, even a grown women can push it) , and the Other One, while free, (all I have to do is pick it up, and the manufacturer says if I like it, I can pay what I feel it is worth), made of the latest and best components, and the manufacturer says hey let us know how it works, cause we want to make it better still, and we know it ain't gonna ever be perfect, but we do have it so we think it should position itself to catch spills before they happen. Well, If I am a stock holder of Expensive Vac. company, I really like the Expensive Vac. Brand, and want everyone to think 'hey that Expensive Vac. is the way to go, heck the Other One Vacs. have a button to make it easier to push, and Other One Vacs _don't_ even have a button to make it easier to push, heck who is gonna fix your Other One vac, when the bag is full, who you gonna call?? heck I don't even know anyone certified to empty the bag on an Other One vac. (the fact that the Other One Vac. empties its own filter, is totally missed by the stockholder for Expensive Vac. Know what I mean? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine question
On Saturday 16 August 2003 11:09 am, Poogle wrote: snip you got me curious so I d/l the trial version of Derive, with crossover office 1.3.5 it crashes with an error message about VBOX, so no go there, but with Win4Lin (with Win98) it installs properly and will open and close the included files. As to whether it will work I can't comment as it's about 30 years since I studied maths/statistics so I can't remember enough about the subject (hangs head in shame) to try to work with it. /snip OK Poogle, Frankie and all who helped me on this one : The fact is that I don't have a copy of that other OS, in any flavor whatsoever. So I tried to run *Derive* from Wine and from Crossover - with no success. Win4Lin may be OK, but as far as I understand it requires a copy of another OS - right ? If yes, I think my only option is to somehow get my hands on an old, used Windows PC just to run this app. Under no circumstances will I tolerate Windows on my *real* computers in our home. I happen to own an old Thinkpad 380 with OS/2 on it, but *Derive* won't run under OS/2's emulation of Win3.1 either. Possibly I can get a copy of Win98, but I have no clue whatsoever about installing it - the Thinkpad can't boot off a CD , so I guess it's a dead end too ? Thanks again, all. Kaj Haulrich. -- Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk Sent to you from a 100 % Micro$oft-free computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Virtual Hosts in Apache 2.0
On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 11:17:34AM +, Roland Cruse wrote: On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 01:12:09AM -0400, HaywireMac wrote: BTW, what's with yer blank reply-to, that's kinda weird... I never paid attention to it till now. I've inserted it by hand in this email. I'am using mutt and when I reply to mail it leaves it blank I also tried with evolution and it also leaves the Reply-To: field blank. I am I missing something? Is it standard that the mail user agent (MUA) should fill it in? Roland Did you set your from in your muttrc? Like: set from=Bob Dylan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Todd -- Name that tune #9: I got a harmonica job, begun to play, blowin' my lungs out for a dollar a day; I blowed inside out and upside down; the man there said he loved my sound, he was ravin' about how he loved my sound; dollar a day's worth. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine question
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 16:50, Kaj Haulrich wrote: I happen to own an old Thinkpad 380 with OS/2 on it, but *Derive* won't run under OS/2's emulation of Win3.1 either. Possibly I can get a copy of Win98, but I have no clue whatsoever about installing it - the Thinkpad can't boot off a CD , so I guess it's a dead end too ? You might know someone who has W98 running. Create a bootdiskette there, get the CDROM-driver for the Thinkpad from somewhere on the diskette, don't forget mscdex, format, himem.sys, fdisk and sys.com. Stick the cdromdriver in /config.sys. That should get you going, I think. Paul (who had a lot to do with M$ in the older days... Damn, I am getting OLD!) -- Don't worry. If it breaks, you get to keep the pieces. http://www.nlpagan.net - Linux Mandrake - Ximian Evolution Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] procmail default move to inbox
I just set up procmail not long ago and I have my spam, lists, and bozos rc files set up. How do I make it so that mails not matching anything in those goes to the inbox? Right now, everything stays in the spool. Todd -- Name that tune #4: I said, There is no justice! as they led me out the door; and the judge said, This isn't a court of justice, son, this is a court of law. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine question
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 16:17, Paul wrote: On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 16:50, Kaj Haulrich wrote: I happen to own an old Thinkpad 380 with OS/2 on it, but *Derive* won't run under OS/2's emulation of Win3.1 either. Possibly I can get a copy of Win98, but I have no clue whatsoever about installing it - the Thinkpad can't boot off a CD , so I guess it's a dead end too ? You might know someone who has W98 running. Create a bootdiskette there, get the CDROM-driver for the Thinkpad from somewhere on the diskette, don't forget mscdex, format, himem.sys, fdisk and sys.com. Stick the cdromdriver in /config.sys. That should get you going, I think. Paul (who had a lot to do with M$ in the older days... Damn, I am getting OLD!) Try http://www.bootdisk.com as the name says, bootdisks Paul M Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Uploading files to web host with FTP? (Shoot me!)
I have some files I need to upload with ftp for a friend's website. I have never done this before and have no idea how to start! I have discovered something called gFTP - is this the right thing to use? I can't find a manual for it... I know the domain name, username and password - is there anything else I need to know? Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine question
On Saturday 16 August 2003 01:17 pm, Paul wrote: On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 16:50, Kaj Haulrich wrote: I happen to own an old Thinkpad 380 with OS/2 on it, but *Derive* won't run under OS/2's emulation of Win3.1 either. Possibly I can get a copy of Win98, but I have no clue whatsoever about installing it - the Thinkpad can't boot off a CD , so I guess it's a dead end too ? You might know someone who has W98 running. Create a bootdiskette there, get the CDROM-driver for the Thinkpad from somewhere on the diskette, don't forget mscdex, format, himem.sys, fdisk and sys.com. Stick the cdromdriver in /config.sys. That should get you going, I think. Paul (who had a lot to do with M$ in the older days... Damn, I am getting OLD!) Well, thanks Paul. I'll try this road even if I know next to nothing about Windows. Never thought I needed it. Kaj Haulrich. -- Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk Sent to you from a 100 % Micro$oft-free computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
I have sent you my lilo.conf off list. - Original Message - From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 22:13, Cody Harris wrote: The VGA option was set to 786. On starting the computer with XFree 3.x with the edited lilo, it tired to start X about 3 times then says something about failing. On logging in as root and startxing, it says Fatal server error: No valid modes found. - Original Message - From: Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? Cody, post, or mail off-list your etc/lilo.conf file. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grip or RipperX
On Friday 15 August 2003 05:13 pm, Aron Smith wrote: On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 21:56, Dennis Myers wrote: On Friday 15 August 2003 11:41 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Dennis Myers wrote: On Friday 15 August 2003 11:21 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Dennis Myers wrote: On Friday 15 August 2003 10:21 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Dennis Myers wrote: On Tuesday 12 August 2003 04:33 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: I have both installed but when I try to rip a audio CD I end up with either empty files or in grip it gives me the :-l face and quits. My cds play ok but it acts like it cannot read them. I have notlame installed. Not sure what to ask or what I may be doing wrong. Any suggestions. I guess I will ask again, I have read the manuals on lame ripperX, gprip, and still get nothing but empty mp3 files. I am missing something. No progress shows on the bars or no % progress, after an hour not one track ripped. This is not what I expected, any ideas? I have reinstalled after uninstalling. Same thing. TIA In grip, go to Config=Rip=Options and see if Delay before ripping is checked. I have to have this on or my DVDROM won't rip correctly. I believe that this setting spins the drive up before it starts trying to rip anything. Also, on the same page, what is the Rip 'nice' value? Ok, checked Delay and nice is at 0.the_king_has_lost_his_crown.wav Any difference? Bladeenc being used and I am seeing some progress but very slow. Shows 0.47% after about 15 minutes. and Enc: Idle What ripper are you using? Config=Rip=Ripper and it is now at 1.06% bleah! Kaudiocreator seems to work best for me at least for MP3s the encoder is lame Same thing happens in Kaudiocreator. I am going to change out the CDROM and see if that makes a dif. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine question
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 14:50:31 + Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: If yes, I think my only option is to somehow get my hands on an old, used Windows PC just to run this app. Under no circumstances will I tolerate Windows on my *real* computers in our home. I *was* able to install the app under Winex3, but I get wine: Unhandled exception, starting debugger... when I try to run it. I would check the Transgaming site. I know it's mainly for games, but they claim to support other apps as well, like Photoshop and such, so you might get some help there. I was really hopeful it would work, sorry. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 09:52, Cody Harris wrote: I have sent you my lilo.conf off list. - Original Message - From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 22:13, Cody Harris wrote: The VGA option was set to 786. On starting the computer with XFree 3.x with the edited lilo, it tired to start X about 3 times then says something about failing. On logging in as root and startxing, it says Fatal server error: No valid modes found. - Original Message - From: Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? Cody, post, or mail off-list your etc/lilo.conf file. Got it, and replied with changes to lilo.conf, and a short explanation of passing the mem=xxxM to the kernel in the append statement in lilo that I hope will help and make sense. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux saves MS's butt.
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:26:47 -0700 Brandon Vanderberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Anyone dumb enough to leave a PC wide open with no protection, and got hit by this worm deserves it - Just as much as someone who runs linux with no security deserves to have their box owned. Operating systems, like any consumer product, *should* be useable by anyone, and the security aspects should be relatively transparent, requiring only that they receive due and proper notification of the need to patch, as Mandrake does and Microsoft does not. Bill Gates didn't make people idiots, God did. Hate the user, not the developer. I find it ironic that you act so arrogant (or in your terms l33t) about this issue, then blast (in your sig) other people for showing thier pride in their ability to run a smooth/custom/useable machine. Sure, the uptime sig thing is maybe a bit superfluous, but take it easy and save the trolling for the OT list. Next... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grip or RipperX
On Friday 15 August 2003 09:57 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: On Tuesday 12 August 2003 04:33 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: I have both installed but when I try to rip a audio CD I end up with either empty files or in grip it gives me the :-l face and quits. My cds play ok but it acts like it cannot read them. I have notlame installed. Not sure what to ask or what I may be doing wrong. Any suggestions. I guess I will ask again, I have read the manuals on lame ripperX, gprip, and still get nothing but empty mp3 files. I am missing something. No progress shows on the bars or no % progress, after an hour not one track ripped. This is not what I expected, any ideas? I have reinstalled after uninstalling. Same thing. TIA Thanks to all who helped. The process was a good learning experience. The solution was indeed to change the CDROM! I put in a newer 40X and it runs like a race car. All of the info provided by you guys helped in eliminating possibilities and I finally did the mechanical thing. Thanks Again. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] Linux saves MS's butt.
Hello Brandon, Saturday, August 16, 2003, 12:26:47 AM, you wrote: BV Anyone dumb enough to leave a PC wide open with no protection, and BV got hit by this worm deserves it - Just as much as someone who BV runs linux with no security deserves to have their box owned. BV Bill Gates didn't make people idiots, God did. Hate the user, not the BV developer. On the other hand, M$ could have spent the money to test it more. Instead, they pocket the $$, knowing their final testing will be done by the public. By charging for 'support', they can make even more money this way. Not a nice way to do business, and only possible if you are a ruthless monopoly, as M$ is. They really don't care about inconveniencing the public. It is appropriate to dislike such developers. Perhaps the only reason they spent so much effort advertising this particular worm was because it was targeting them. If it was only the public that would be hurt, it is likely they wouldn't care hardly at all since it does not affect their bottom line. Windoze tries to protect users from themselves(sometimes in obnoxious ways), to mitigate against idiots. But, the basic design which lets anything do anything to everything is a security disaster. If they REALLY wanted to help users, one of the bests things they could do is to make sure there are minimum security and privacy risks, but they don't. Instead, each version of Windoze gets worse from both the privacy and security points of view. With XP, the EULA is just horrendous! Some changes are trivial, such as default security settings so 'idiots' don't get infected their first hour on the net. It is NOT all the fault of 'idiots.' The default is wide open and not protected. It is appropriate to dislike such developers. Windoze is becoming ever more difficult for other software developers to work with, thus strangling innovation and competition even more. Many parts of Windoze are not that good (the firewall for example), and superior third party products are being shut out if they can't be taken over by M$. It is appropriate to dislike such developers. -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] New ROX Wiki has Mandrake Specific info!
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Re: [newbie] Mdk is cash flow positive!
On 16 Aug 2003 02:22:04 -0400, Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's way past time that something was done about the store problems. There has been alot that hasn't been said about store problems in order to give them time to have rectified the problem, but if rectification is not forthcoming then perhaps other means of garnering some attention is warranted. What'd you have in mind, exactly? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Uploading files to web host with FTP? (Shoot me!)
Hi Margot, Yes, gFTP is the right tool. You shouldn't have to know anything more than what you do to make the transfer, although you _might_ have to know to what directories on your friend's server you have permission to upload. Miark On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 14:53:36 +0100, Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have some files I need to upload with ftp for a friend's website. I have never done this before and have no idea how to start! I have discovered something called gFTP - is this the right thing to use? I can't find a manual for it... I know the domain name, username and password - is there anything else I need to know? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux saves MS's butt.
No.. http://www.microsoft.com The site www.microsoft.com is running Microsoft-IIS/6.0 on Windows Server 2003. http://microsoft.com The site microsoft.com is running Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on Windows 2000. In neither case does linux show up. Just 2000 and 2003 server. rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sevatio Sent: Saturday, 16 August 2003 10:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux saves MS's butt. No, this is for real and unbelievable as it is. Look up www.microsoft.com or microsoft.com and you'll see linux. So yes this is happened. Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Frankie wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brant Fitzsimmons For those who don't know--MS has changed around a lot of their Windows Update network to try and handle the expected onslaught of hits from computers commandeered by the MSBlast worm. Guess who they put at the the front line of their defense. http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.windowsupdate.com FRANKI: I don't know if I understand it.. I thought the urls for m$ updates were: http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ The site windowsupdate.microsoft.com is running Microsoft-IIS/6.0 on Windows Server 2003. which goes though to: http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp The site v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com is running Microsoft-IIS/6.0 on Windows Server 2003. Both of those show up as IIS6 on 2003. I had never heard of www.windowsupdate.com before and the page doesn't show up.. Oddly enough.. http://windowsupdate.com also returns just an IIS server on 2003. The site windowsupdate.com is running Microsoft-IIS/6.0 on Windows Server 2003. Neither that site, nor www.win... shows up in my browser though. regards Franki http://htmlfixit.com You are absolutely correct. www.windowsupdate.com is not coming up. I do know, however, that it does indeed exist as I've accessed it many times in the past. Akamai has also been doing Microsoft's DNS work ever since that very large DNS crack at MS brought down most of their network 5 or so years ago, so they have been using Linux, where they needed extra security, for quite a while. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Uploading files to web host with FTP? (Shoot me!)
Miark wrote: On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 14:53:36 +0100, Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have some files I need to upload with ftp for a friend's website. I have never done this before and have no idea how to start! I have discovered something called gFTP - is this the right thing to use? I can't find a manual for it... I know the domain name, username and password - is there anything else I need to know? Hi Margot, Yes, gFTP is the right tool. You shouldn't have to know anything more than what you do to make the transfer, although you _might_ have to know to what directories on your friend's server you have permission to upload. Miark Thanks Miark, glad I've got the right tool at least, but what I need to know now is how to use it - real beginner here! Where in gFTP do I input the domain name, username and password? How do I tell it what files to upload? As I said, can't find a manual, and I've never done this before! Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux saves MS's butt.
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 10:26, Brandon Vanderberg wrote: Anyone dumb enough to leave a PC wide open with no protection, and got hit by this worm deserves it - Just as much as someone who runs linux with no security deserves to have their box owned. Bill Gates didn't make people idiots, God did. Hate the user, not the developer. Next... Brandon Vanderberg __ Feel you're being a bit harsh here. Don't forget that the vast majority of computer users/car drivers/TV watchers have no idea what goes on under the hood only realise this when things go wrong. Ms has been sold on it's ease of use - and people have believed the salesmen (it's also been sold on greater security). By the time a lot of folks find out it's too late, and by that time all sorts of behind the scenes activity has been going on. Remember the greats of the past: Ford Pinto, Firestone tyres, etc. etc.? Blame the developer. Paul M. Yeah, Though I would agree that most do not understand what's going on under the hood, it's the decision not to protect their computer (whatever it's OS) that leaves them open to attacks. It doesn't take an advanced Computer Science degree or even formal computer training to know that systems which are regularly connected to the Internet should be protected - with a good firewall and regular software updates at a minimum. I've found (and firmly believe) that reinforcing this to users is far more productive than blaming the person that wrote the software. And no, I don't really hate users - just bad decisions like not using the tools and advice that are widely available. Brandon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux saves MS's butt.
Stirred up a hornet's nest didn't I? ;) On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:26:47 -0700 Brandon Vanderberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Anyone dumb enough to leave a PC wide open with no protection, and got hit by this worm deserves it - Just as much as someone who runs linux with no security deserves to have their box owned. Operating systems, like any consumer product, *should* be useable by anyone, and the security aspects should be relatively transparent, requiring only that they receive due and proper notification of the need to patch, as Mandrake does and Microsoft does not. OSs should be useable and they are. It's just not safe (wise) to connect them to the Internet without protection. As for notification, both Mdk and MS send patch updates. And both advise using some kind of firewall. Bill Gates didn't make people idiots, God did. Hate the user, not the developer. I find it ironic that you act so arrogant (or in your terms l33t) about this issue, then blast (in your sig) other people for showing thier pride in their ability to run a smooth/custom/useable machine. Sure, the uptime sig thing is maybe a bit superfluous, but take it easy and save the trolling for the OT list. Next... Not arrogant and certainly not l33t (whatever it means). And taking a jab at Stephen's sig is not blasting you or anyone else. He can take it, so cowboy up. Troll on, troller. Brandon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OF INTEREST: [Virus Alerts [Prevention: the bestweapon againstthe Blaster wor m - 08/13/03]]
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 15:53:18 -0500 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Heather is right. Doesn't sound *trivial*. I can't see some script-kiddie accomplishing that like they can with a worm or virus. Once again, that was the point of the debate. It is easy to compromise Win, it is not easy to compromise *nix. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Woooooooooot! MOHAA Linux Client (Beta)!
Grab it here folks! http://www.linuxgaming.jolt.co.uk/?page=action=showid=4739 I haven't tried it yet, lets test the crap out of this and get this done! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mdk is cash flow positive!
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 13:13, Miark wrote: On 16 Aug 2003 02:22:04 -0400, Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's way past time that something was done about the store problems. There has been alot that hasn't been said about store problems in order to give them time to have rectified the problem, but if rectification is not forthcoming then perhaps other means of garnering some attention is warranted. What'd you have in mind, exactly? Miark Sounds like you've had bad experience too. (?) I hesitate to be specific about my ideas right now out in the open as I don't think the timing is rightwell, mostly because I don't know how many dissatisfied people there are yet. It would help if people on the list spoke up about their store problems so that we could get a head count. I'll email you private on this. LX -- °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk *Catch Star Trek Enterprise, Wednesdays on UPN* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux saves MS's butt.
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 13:53, Brandon Vanderberg wrote: Stirred up a hornet's nest didn't I? ;) Not really. Not arrogant and certainly not l33t (whatever it means). And taking a jab at Stephen's sig is not blasting you or anyone else. He can take it, so cowboy up. Troll on, troller. Brandon Yep. LX -- °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk *Catch Star Trek Enterprise, Wednesdays on UPN* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Virtual Hosts in Apache 2.0
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 07:34:48PM -0500, Michael Viron wrote: I use apache on my local host and got mixed results using the * If you put the *.example.com entry before any of the other VirtualHost directives, when something comes in for dev.example.com, apache uses whatever the first match is. In the example above, it would correctly pull it from /home/web/test . On the other hand if *.example.com is before the entry (either first or second on the list), it would match that entry and incorrectly use the page from /home/web/www, instead of the correct /home/web/test -- essentially ignoring any further entries. Hope this gives everyone (especially those wanting to set up virtualhosts) something useful to work with, Thanks Michael. Sometimes I find apache configuration very fickle it takes a lot of trial and error:-( And I've got alot of trial to go :-) Here's one of them... Using only a * in the Virtualhost directive. I guess it's advantage would be less typing in the configuration file. i.e. Virtualhost * I use apache (2) for testing on my localhost. I've got a half a dozen local virtual hosts defined in /etc/httpd/conf/vhosts/Vhosts.conf. Each virtualhost is defined like so Virtualhost mytestwebsite. Plus there is a corresponding host entry in the /etc/hosts file 127.0.0.1 mytestwebsite for local domain name lookup. All virtual hosts are accessible this way from my local browser i.e. http://mytestwebsite/. At the top of the Vhosts.conf there is: NameVirtualHost 127.0.0.1 to tell apache which ip. Everything works. But...When I put a * inplace of mytestwebsite for all my half dozen virtual hosts things do go so well. I only get the first listed virtual host :-( Following the example in http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/vhosts/name-based.html (thank you HaywireMac) for name-based virtual hosts, it should work. (I think :-)) I am thinking apache first finds my ip (localhost) then looks at the * in the Virutalhost * then looks inside to see if ServerName mytestwebsite is the same as the requested domain. If they match, then apache uses that Virtual host. I am using the same host name in the /etc/hosts file as in the VirtualHost directive i.e. ServerName mytestsite. Translation: The calling domain name (http://mytestwebsite/) is the same as the ServerName directive as in the /etc/hosts file. Here's a snip from the apache manual... snip Now when a request arrives, the server will first check if it is using an IP address that matches the NameVirtualHost. If it is, then it will look at each VirtualHost section with a matching IP address and try to find one where the ServerName or ServerAlias matches the requested hostname. If it finds one, then it uses the configuration for that server. If no matching virtual host is found, then the first listed virtual host that matches the IP address will be used. snip My virtual hosts should match and use the right configuration but all I get is the first listed virtual host. I am wondering if me doing all this as localhost would have a different effect, or I might be missing something somewhere. Thanks in advance for any light on the subject. Roland Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OF INTEREST: [Virus Alerts [Prevention: the bestweapon againstthe Blaster wor m - 08/13/03]]
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 14:53, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday August 16 2003 12:19 am, HaywireMac wrote: On 14 Aug 2003 21:30:35 -0600 Heather/Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Its not the impregnable fortress That wasn't really the nature of the argument. The fact is it is *trivial* to break Windows, it will *never* be trivial to break *nix, as long as the Open Source model is preserved. http://news.com.com/2100-1009_3-5063683.html Heather is right. Wish I wasn't luv. Ty for the URL. -- Femme On MDK 9.1, more or less 24/7...cept for gaming. Finally. :D Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Virtual Hosts in Apache 2.0
On 15 Aug 2003 06:41:49 - Roland Cruse [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Instead of a star in the VirtualHost * directive put each of your domain names (what ZoneEdit has pointing at you). VirtualHost www.orderinchaos.org and see if that does it. I use apache on my local host and got mixed results using the * I tried that and orderinchaos.org and nodex.orderinchaos.org still load the same page and yes, Ed, I did restart httpd! ;-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine question
On Saturday 16 August 2003 08:23 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 08:50, Kaj Haulrich wrote: snip If yes, I think my only option is to somehow get my hands on an old, used Windows PC just to run this app. Under no circumstances will I tolerate Windows on my *real* computers in our home. I happen to own an old Thinkpad 380 with OS/2 on it, but *Derive* won't run under OS/2's emulation of Win3.1 either. Possibly I can get a copy of Win98, but I have no clue whatsoever about installing it - the Thinkpad can't boot off a CD , so I guess it's a dead end too ? Thanks again, all. Kaj Haulrich. IF you are dead set on getting a copy of Windows onto that laptop I know of one easy way to do it. I also can ftp you a copy of w98 if you wish. Copy from the W98 Dir (Using ftp if you must) to the laptop the Windows Setup directory onto the laptops hard drive. Boot with boot diskette to an DOS prompt. Enter the dir you copied your setup files to, run setup.exe. Done. Win98 is stupid enough to install from HDD. Win2k is too... Dunno about XP but your hardware is old enough i suspect that isn't an issue. Thanks a lot, Femme. I already managed to get my hands on a CD with Win98 SE (hence the late reply). It's an OEM edition but i will give it a try. Now, my problem is to create a boot-floppy. If I understand you correctly, there is a setup directory on the CD, so I'll follow your advice once I have a boot floppy. Maybe I'm a little nave : I've been browsing around this OEM CD to find a Windows equivalent of Linux's rawrite and a boot image, but with no luck. As someone suggested I'll try to pull one off the net. I guess, that getting win98 onto this old Thinkpad is my best option for my daughter. That way her *main* PC can stay *clean*. Thanks again Kaj Haulrich. -- Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk Sent to you from a 100 % Micro$oft-free computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Rars PDF files
can someone email me on or offlist how to work with these files in linux pls? RTFM, instructions, URLS ..whatever welcome. I just know it has been discussed on here but I don't have the time to look through the archives at the moment. So forgive my laziness, lack of time, insert jab at me here. :) ty. -- Femme On MDK 9.1, more or less 24/7...cept for gaming. Finally. :D Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Using Nautilus instead of Konqueror
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 01:33, Stephen Kuhn wrote: snip If you're running Nautilus without the desktop drawing, and you slap in a CD, it SHOULD be the FM to open up - and if it's a blank, it should open up (as long as you have the additional Nautilus RPM's installed for doing burning directly through it...) Works on mine...although I still prefer doing things manually... Desktop drawing... meaning...? Sorry you went over my head with that part my Aussie friend. Unforunately when I double click my icon it does mount the cd but then opens Konq. There has to be a way to kill that default behvaiour somewhere... If i were running Gnome it would default to Nautilus i'm sure. But i'm on KDE for now (until I master linux I'll not venture to another WM... tho Rox is certainly appealing... as is E again...). -- Femme On MDK 9.1, more or less 24/7...cept for gaming. Finally. :D Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mouse from hell
Well I did it again. Couldn't leave well enough alone. I installed some xmms plugins, the new openoffice, and the latest java today. Now my mouse pointer jumps with great vigor to the bottom left of my desktop (kde) and sometimes keyboard and mouse both freeze, necessitating hardware reboot. Thank God for xfs! mdk 9.1 Anyone have a thought before I start uninstalling? What a pain. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux saves MS's butt.
Hello, It seems to me that this is an insolubale problem. The 'Joe six pack' crowd will never be able to outhack someone who is au currant and deals with networking day in and day out, even if they understand the need for protection. As they say, 'where there's a will there's a way.' -Jim On Saturday 16 August 2003 03:32 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Great attitude! Since when does someone with a lack of knowledge deserve to be harmed? When you first started using computers did you deserve to have your computer hacked every day until you knew how to adequately secure it? When you learned to walk did you deserve to have your parents knock you down every time you tried until you developed the coordination to resist being knocked down? Why are you hating anyone? Bill Gates didn't make anyone stupid and neither did God. Bill Gates told people that ease of use was all that there was to computers. He also neglected to tell potential customers that pure ease of use without a solid foundation in a secure, proper design would negate the effects of the ease of use. I don't think that anyone (including yourself) can be self-righteous enough to claim that they have never been influenced by a daily bombardment of ads from various companies, including software companies. Why don't you spend your time trying to inform those people that got their boxes owned instead of wasting our time calling them names. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Uploading files to web host with FTP? (Shoot me!)
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 18:41:22 +0100, Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Miark, glad I've got the right tool at least, but what I need to know now is how to use it - real beginner here! Where in gFTP do I input the domain name, username and password? How do I tell it what files to upload? As I said, can't find a manual, and I've never done this before! Margot Enter all three pieces of information in the fields at the top of the window. The Host field is for the domain. Leave the Port field empty. Press Enter after you've put your password in the Pass field. Your files are in the left file pane, the server's in the right. Navigate to the server's directory you'll be uploading to. Then navigate the left pane to the files you want to upload; highlight them; then either click the top arrow between the two panes, or press Enter. You'll find it's pretty straight-forward. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mouse from hell
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 16:40, Lee Wiggers wrote: Well I did it again. Couldn't leave well enough alone. I installed some xmms plugins, the new openoffice, and the latest java today. Now my mouse pointer jumps with great vigor to the bottom left of my desktop (kde) and sometimes keyboard and mouse both freeze, necessitating hardware reboot. Thank God for xfs! mdk 9.1 Anyone have a thought before I start uninstalling? What a pain. Lee * The XMMS plugins done me in to (Gonna do a complete reinstall tonite) __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rars PDF files
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Femme, On 16 Aug 2003 17:02:57 -0600, Heather/Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about [newbie] Rars PDF files: can someone email me on or offlist how to work with these files in linux pls? RTFM, instructions, URLS ..whatever welcome. I just know it has been discussed on here but I don't have the time to look through the archives at the moment. So forgive my laziness, lack of time, insert jab at me here. :) .pdf`s can be viewed with xpdf or kghostview. The rpm`s should be on your Mandrake cd`s. Alternatively, www.adobe.com also provides a Linux version (5.0.8) of Adobe Acrobat reader (I was unable to get the Mandrake rpm or the previous versions from Adobe to work). .rar files are really for Windows. They can be extracted with `unrar`. I found unrar-3.2.0-fr1.rpm and IIRC it was on www.sourceforge.net. It works quite easily from the command line, the only odd thing is that the options work without dashes as usual, e.g.: unrar x foo.rar (not ... -x ...). If you don`t manage to find it I can mail it to you. HTH Regards, =Dick Gevers= - -- Registered Linux user # 309037 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3rc2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Encryption is an envelope - the contents are private. iD8DBQE/Puj2wC/zk+cxEdMRAnYcAJoC1i8J1aVaj5M7UqdsZ1yw9htywwCeK7mD eEQ6F/P35FKX36G+DpuSTz4= =S5fR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mdk is cash flow positive!
On 16 Aug 2003 17:42:15 -0400, Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like you've had bad experience too. (?) Actually I've never dealt with the store at all. The only thing I would buy is inexpensive things, and the only reason I'd even do that is as a contribution. But MandrakeClub memberships are a better contribution, so that's what I've done for a couple years. I don't know how many dissatisfied people there are yet. It would help if people on the list spoke up about their store problems so that we could get a head count. And to be fair, it would also help to know how many people have received good service. We're heard a number of people complain here, but we don't actually know if that's representative of Mandrake service. And we all know how bad news spreads faster than good news (which often doesn't spread at all). Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rars PDF files
On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 05:02:57PM -0600, Heather/Femme wrote: can someone email me on or offlist how to work with these files in linux pls? RTFM, instructions, URLS ..whatever welcome. I just know it has been discussed on here but I don't have the time to look through the archives at the moment. So forgive my laziness, lack of time, insert jab at me here. :) ty. Not exactly sure what you mean by work with the files, but if you've got a rar archive to unpack, you can do it with: unrar e file.rar If you need to open/read a pdf, there's xpdf and ghostview and probably others. Just xpdf file.pdf. t -- If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all. -Noam Chomsky Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux saves MS's butt.
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 05:25, James Henry Maiewski wrote: Hello, It seems to me that this is an insolubale problem. The 'Joe six pack' crowd will never be able to outhack someone who is au currant and deals with networking day in and day out, even if they understand the need for protection. As they say, 'where there's a will there's a way.' -Jim *** Difference is if Joe Sixpack catches you you would be in a world of hurt right after he opened that can of Whoopass On Saturday 16 August 2003 03:32 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Great attitude! Since when does someone with a lack of knowledge deserve to be harmed? When you first started using computers did you deserve to have your computer hacked every day until you knew how to adequately secure it? When you learned to walk did you deserve to have your parents knock you down every time you tried until you developed the coordination to resist being knocked down? Why are you hating anyone? Bill Gates didn't make anyone stupid and neither did God. Bill Gates told people that ease of use was all that there was to computers. He also neglected to tell potential customers that pure ease of use without a solid foundation in a secure, proper design would negate the effects of the ease of use. I don't think that anyone (including yourself) can be self-righteous enough to claim that they have never been influenced by a daily bombardment of ads from various companies, including software companies. Why don't you spend your time trying to inform those people that got their boxes owned instead of wasting our time calling them names. __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Woooooooooot! MOHAA Linux Client (Beta)!
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 17:21:21 -0400 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Grab it here folks! http://www.linuxgaming.jolt.co.uk/?page=action=showid=4739 I haven't tried it yet, lets test the crap out of this and get this done! Tried it and it works great, except for the wonky sound, which the developer mentioned outright. You don't get to hear all of the voices of the NPCs and stuff, but it plays smooth, hasn't crashed on me yet, and it plays waaay faster than on WineX! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux saves MS's butt.
Feel you're being a bit harsh here. Don't forget that the vast majority of computer users/car drivers/TV watchers have no idea what goes on under the hood only realise this when things go wrong. Ms has been sold on it's ease of use - and people have believed the salesmen (it's also been sold on greater security). By the time a lot of folks find out it's too late, and by that time all sorts of behind the scenes activity has been going on. Remember the greats of the past: Ford Pinto, Firestone tyres, etc. etc.? Blame the developer. Paul M. Yeah, Though I would agree that most do not understand what's going on under the hood, it's the decision not to protect their computer (whatever it's OS) that leaves them open to attacks. It doesn't take an advanced Computer Science degree or even formal computer training to know that systems which are regularly connected to the Internet should be protected - with a good firewall and regular software updates at a minimum. I've found (and firmly believe) that reinforcing this to users is far more productive than blaming the person that wrote the software. And no, I don't really hate users - just bad decisions like not using the tools and advice that are widely available. Brandon I tend to think a large part of the problem is that the government and the lawyers have spent way to much time protecting us from ourselfs. We have so many warning labels on so many things that a lot of people assume that if there was any kind of a potential problem there would be huge red warning labels stuck all over the computer and some sort of big banner add kind of warnings coming up on their email, dial up connection and browser. There are so many warning labels on so many things that people have started to think that anything without at least 10 huge warning labels is 99.9% harmless afterall just yesterday I purchased a screwdriver with a warning label telling me not to use that tool without eye protection!!! When I was growing up most power tools did not have warning labels. McDonald's even warns us that hot chocolate may be hot. I thought the name of the product all ready did that. Please do not get me wrong!!! I do not think computers should come with warnings all over them. NO!!! I think things should go the other way, 95% of all warning labels should be removed and in 6 months to a year the problem will take care of itself. Marc KM5KW Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grip or RipperX
Bladeenc being used and I am seeing some progress but very slow. Shows 0.47% after about 15 minutes. and Enc: Idle Isn't bladeenc old? lame comes highly recommended in case you are not using it, it's over at any plf mirror. ;) David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grip or RipperX
I guess I will ask again, I have read the manuals on lame ripperX, gprip, and still get nothing but empty mp3 files. I am missing something. No progress I haven't tried grip in a long time. I typically use cdparanoia and lame. I don't do a whole lot of cd copying / ripping though. I'm kinda doing the reverse :) mp3 to cd conversions. I suppose using grip would be helpful if you are trying to rip directly from the cd, without using any intermediate space for wav storage. I will mention konqueror audiocd:/ plugin since no one seems to have mentioned it. This is one slick puppy in the newer KDEs. konqueror and then select audio cd browser with a cd inserted into the drive. Then you can look at the cd's tracks individually as if they were files, and manipulate them, copy them, or even ogg / mp3. One thing you want to do is to copy the ogg's or mp3's off somewhere else, since konqueror stores them in its own internal temp structure directories, and if you navigate away, they're gone and you have to re-encode. Dennis M. linux user #180842 David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mdk is cash flow positive!
On Saturday 16 August 2003 04:42 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 13:13, Miark wrote: On 16 Aug 2003 02:22:04 -0400, Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's way past time that something was done about the store problems. There has been alot that hasn't been said about store problems in order to give them time to have rectified the problem, but if rectification is not forthcoming then perhaps other means of garnering some attention is warranted. What'd you have in mind, exactly? Miark Sounds like you've had bad experience too. (?) I hesitate to be specific about my ideas right now out in the open as I don't think the timing is rightwell, mostly because I don't know how many dissatisfied people there are yet. It would help if people on the list spoke up about their store problems so that we could get a head count. I'll email you private on this. LX I have very few hard facts about this but I would guess that even though ML is cash flow positive that the courts may be forcing them to keep their efforts focused on paying off debts. Cash flow positive or not I suspect that they still have a good many outstanding debts. I also tend to think that they are making some sort of effort to straighten out this mess but they MUST set priorities and #1 is keeping the courts happy after all if they have to close their doors they will never be able to make good on those late orders. Just my 2 cents worth I may be 100% wrong. Marc KM5KW Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Woooooooooot! MOHAA Linux Client (Beta)!
On Saturday 16 August 2003 04:21 pm, HaywireMac wrote: Grab it here folks! http://www.linuxgaming.jolt.co.uk/?page=action=showid=4739 I haven't tried it yet, lets test the crap out of this and get this done! I'd like to try it, but it says it needs the commercial store bought version for the libraries or something. OOPs can't play, sorry. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mdk is cash flow positive!
On Saturday 16 August 2003 08:15 pm, Miark wrote: On 16 Aug 2003 17:42:15 -0400, Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like you've had bad experience too. (?) Actually I've never dealt with the store at all. The only thing I would buy is inexpensive things, and the only reason I'd even do that is as a contribution. But MandrakeClub memberships are a better contribution, so that's what I've done for a couple years. I don't know how many dissatisfied people there are yet. It would help if people on the list spoke up about their store problems so that we could get a head count. And to be fair, it would also help to know how many people have received good service. We're heard a number of people complain here, but we don't actually know if that's representative of Mandrake service. And we all know how bad news spreads faster than good news (which often doesn't spread at all). Miark My experience with the store has bee good. I preordered the Powerpack and when they started shipping I was notified by email that mine went out the door and 4 days later It was in my mail box. No problem. But in the business of handling these things internally, Mandrake can and must do better, not necessarily in actual shipping, but in responding to customers complaints and concerns. Even one nonresponse is not good. My $.02 -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
