Re: [newbie] File manager under 9.2?

2003-11-28 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Friday 28 November 2003 01:49 am, Charlie Mahan wrote:

CMHope this helps Ron:
CM
CMRepost from the Weird things in 9.2 thread:
CM-

Thanks Charlie - that worked just fine. :-)

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Re: [newbie] Printer problems

2003-11-28 Thread John Richard Smith
Ronald J. Hall wrote:

 

Thanks for the reply John - turned out that /var/spool/cups did not exist - I 
created that file, then reran/modify from Webmin, and all was well. :-)

 

So what procedure did you follow to create  /var/spool/cups
and ,
what's webmin got to do with it I wonder ?
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Re: [newbie] Printer problems

2003-11-28 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Friday 28 November 2003 02:19 am, John Richard Smith wrote:

JRSo what procedure did you follow to create  /var/spool/cups
JRand ,
JRwhat's webmin got to do with it I wonder ?
JR
JRJohn
JR

I just changed to su, then cd'ed into /var/spool and did a:

mkdir cups

As far as Webmin goes, I just used it to retrace my steps thru the printer 
process, making sure all was well. I never tried to print anything after 
creating /var/spool/cups, it might have worked just fine from that point on. 
It was what was mentioned in /var/log/cups/error_log.

(where I should have looked -1st!-, thanks to James S. for reminding me). :-)

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Re: [newbie] Cron

2003-11-28 Thread Derek Jennings
On Friday 28 Nov 2003 1:41 am, Trevor Rhodes wrote:
 Hello,

 Can someone tell me where Cron from MCC went?  I need it back.  Thanks

As I understand it. It was taken out because it did not work properly.

Try webmin instead. It does all that drakcron did and lots more.

Install webmin RPM then point your browser to 
https://localhost:1

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Re: [newbie] Uninstall

2003-11-28 Thread anton
Charlie Mahan wrote:

Wy to cold up there. ;=0
Anton
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Actually it was suggested to Adam.
snip
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:42:01 -0330
Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 And today, I stick in a music CD, wait awhile, and
nothing happens.

 Red Hat played the CD.

OMFG! I would *immediately* uninstall Mandrake, there's
obviously something
wrong when your OS doesn't read your mind!
snip
Judgeing from the begining of the CD Player thread I thought
Adam asked reasonable questions.
   

I didn't say the question was unreasonable Mike, far from it. I actually 
answered the question. 

[OT]: It was posted by others; then restated by myself, that auto run is an 
option that needs to be turned on in the default KDE CD player (KsCD) in 
Mandrake whereas apparently Red Hat does this by default. I'd rather choose 
whether or not to allow the behaviour, but it's a matter of personal choice.

Sorry about my confusion as to which thread I was responding to. But since 
this is listed in the archives as a new thread, even though Adam made 
reference to another thread, and since the subject of *this* thread is 
Uninstall I directed my comments to that subject.

I did think JoeHill's post might have been construed as a bit 'off-putting.' 
Possibly. I really didn't think it was meant as a flame though. In fact I 
had a chuckle over it.

The rest of the posts I made in this overly long and seemingly pointless 
thread were direct responses to Adam's comments and questions. If he or 
anyone found my remarks offencive; I apologize.

BTW if anyone is becoming so sensitive they can't stand to read posts that 
were never meant as personal attacks let me know. I'll happily walk away from 
the newbie list again.

Not a threat, not even a warning, a statement that I don't need this crap.

Since I refuse to be other than myself, the P.C Police can kiss my a$$ets. 
g

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Re: [newbie] IBM Tutorials

2003-11-28 Thread anton
Hey,
Am already well into them. I will be recommending them to every newbie 
and 'pert I meet.
Cheers
Anton

The Other wrote:

11/27/03

It's probably been mentioned before, but on the IBM developerWorks
website, they have some excellent Linux tutorials.
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/views/linux/tutorials.jsp

55 tutorials were listed (if I counted correctly.)  Some of them are
for the LPI Certification 101 (release 2, 4 tutorials) and 102
(release 2, 4 tutorials) exams.
I'll be busy for a while now.   ..   ;)

 



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Re: [newbie] Thanks Mandrake+OSS+The Mandrake Lists - Please Read Mandrake

2003-11-28 Thread anton
Shameless greaser this chap ;--7
Anton
... not that I haven't mentioned the fact that Redhat put me off Linux 
for months before discovering MDK...

Jason Greenwood wrote:

Hi All,

Dunno if anyone from Mandrake is listening but - THANK YOU.

- Thank you for being there for my first tentative Linux steps 
somewhere around MDK 8.0
- Thank you for staying true to OSS ideals
- Thank you for being there as I got my head around the CLI (well, 
sort of, i.e. it doesn't terrify me anymore) and leaving me with a 
true Linux in the process
- Thank you for being there when it looked like you might go out of 
business
- Thank you for becoming so much better since 8.0
- Thank you for installing perfectly on the last 3 laptops I tried, 
despite the fact I did not verify if the hardware was supported by 
Linux first
- Thank you for supporting almost every single peripheral I have ever 
attached since 9.1 (including scanners, printers, media readers etc.)
- Thank you for taking a menagerie of OSS, choosing the best of breeds 
and bundling it into an easy to install and configure package
- Thank you for not destroying KDE
- Thank you for helping the wonderful OSS Community get the credit it 
so richly deserves
- Thank you for making it easier to create Linux converts
- Thank you for listening when I actually still had time to be a Cooker
- Thank you for hosting lists like expert and newbie where many 
friends have been made and experts have been quizzed for their knowlege
- Thank you for becoming so much more than just another fork of RedHat
- Thank you for making ISO's available so I and others can try before 
we buy (or join the Club)
- Thank you for staying true to Desktop Users
- Thank you for URPMI
- Thank you for the MCC
- Thank you for not being totally perfect so I actually appreciate you
- Thank you for all the other wonderful things I have forgotten and 
long since taken for granted with Mandrake.

I am an American who has been in New Zealand for over 8 years now and 
though I don't really celebrate the U.S. Thanksgiving anymore, I 
thought now was an appropriate time to send this to you.

Please everyone, feel free to add to my short list as you feel 
appropriate.

Regards,

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Re: [newbie] ssh + X forwarding to Windows

2003-11-28 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Thursday 27 November 2003 07:57 pm, David E. Fox wrote:
  Well, if you are tunneling X, it would be display 0, not 1.  You would be
  much better off to use TightVNC since it supports compression and also
  has a

 Actually I figured part of it out, and was able to start gtkatlantic and
 xterm and display them here - apparently when I start the putty session the
 display is already set, which is cool. What is not cool is I have here only
 a 2 button mouse, and there isn't apparently a way to enable 3 button
 emulation in this nagware X server I'm trying out ($25 to purchase but
 I'm using the free trial version of it right now).

  freely available windows client that you can run either by tunneling
  through SSH or even without doing so.  Since TightVNC is built into
  Mandrake already, you only need to install the server and create an id
  and then you are ready to connect.

 vnc server is where? I have vnc installed on the Windows side, and I'd
 have to do the setup remotely.

TightVNC.  You can find it at http://www.tightvnc.com
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Re: [newbie] Printer problems

2003-11-28 Thread John Richard Smith
Ronald J. Hall wrote:

I just changed to su, then cd'ed into /var/spool and did a:

mkdir cups

Well I certainly have a /var/spool/cups so that cannot be my problem.

As far as Webmin goes, I just used it to retrace my steps thru the printer 
process, making sure all was well. I never tried to print anything after 
creating /var/spool/cups, it might have worked just fine from that point on. 
It was what was mentioned in /var/log/cups/error_log.
 

I see what you mean, but, /var/log/cups/error_log, seems to be a
log of
each individual print job.
Unfortunately for me my failed kde  print jobs don't even show up in
here, so it doesn't really help me much, excepting to say that
whatever
is wrong, it is likely to be before the main spooling opperations.
I suspect the problem is something to do with kde's own pre-spool
final
setup mechanism. All that stuff about page select, driver settings ,
margins,resolutions,  and I note kde has some sort of filter thingy
doing something I know not what. If you go the KDE CC
-peripherals-printers-instances-settings-filters there is something
there, and I get pop-up messages like this,
The filter chain is wrong. The output format of at least one filter is
not supported by its follower. See Filters tab for more information.
But it doesn't say anything that might help me understand what if
anything the problem is.
Then again, according to KDE-peripherals-printer,
kde believes my Z53 is on a port, local system-USB-USB
printe~1-Lexmark Z53,
maybe it is in kde  parlance, but if so the OS thinks it is on
/dev/usb/lp0
But thern again Pup see's my printer as /dev/lp0 which is wrong,
and it should be /dev/usb/lp0 but nothing I do to alter it here takes.
So I don't know ?
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Re: [newbie] Trouble?? with 9.2

2003-11-28 Thread JoeHill
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:19:22 -0800
aron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 system slows waaay down system logs disapear  dsl activity at 3.00 am(when i'm
 not online

Get yerself a firewall, d00d ;-)

http://www.smoothwall.org/

http://www.bbiagent.net/

http://leaf.sourceforge.net/

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Re: [newbie] Uninstall

2003-11-28 Thread JoeHill
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:20:53 -0700
Charlie Mahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Since I refuse to be other than myself, the P.C Police can kiss my a$$ets. 

Big huge ditto.

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Re: [newbie] Trouble?? with 9.2

2003-11-28 Thread aron
On Friday 28 November 2003 04:41 am, JoeHill wrote:
 On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:19:22 -0800

 aron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  system slows waaay down system logs disapear  dsl activity at 3.00
  am(when i'm not online

 Get yerself a firewall, d00d ;-)

 http://www.smoothwall.org/

 http://www.bbiagent.net/

 http://leaf.sourceforge.net/
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Re: [newbie] Trouble?? with 9.2

2003-11-28 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 28 Nov 2003 12:57 pm, aron wrote:
 On Friday 28 November 2003 04:41 am, JoeHill wrote:
  On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:19:22 -0800
 
  aron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   system slows waaay down system logs disapear  dsl activity at
   3.00 am(when i'm not online
 
  Get yerself a firewall, d00d ;-)
 
  http://www.smoothwall.org/
 
  http://www.bbiagent.net/
 
  http://leaf.sourceforge.net/

 I am using shorewall,and yes I configured it _before_configureing
 the lan

Is there nothing at all in the logs to show what happens at 3a.m.?

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Re: [newbie] Trouble?? with 9.2

2003-11-28 Thread aron
On Friday 28 November 2003 05:03 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Friday 28 Nov 2003 12:57 pm, aron wrote:
  On Friday 28 November 2003 04:41 am, JoeHill wrote:
   On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:19:22 -0800
  
   aron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
system slows waaay down system logs disapear  dsl activity at
3.00 am(when i'm not online
  
   Get yerself a firewall, d00d ;-)
  
   http://www.smoothwall.org/
  
   http://www.bbiagent.net/
  
   http://leaf.sourceforge.net/
 
  I am using shorewall,and yes I configured it _before_configureing
  the lan

 Is there nothing at all in the logs to show what happens at 3a.m.?
Was getting repeated access attempts then the logs disapeared.
I then wiped the system and reloaded 9.1.
sorry to not know the right procedure

 Anne

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Re: [newbie] Trouble?? with 9.2

2003-11-28 Thread JoeHill
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 04:57:09 -0800
aron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am using shorewall,and yes I configured it _before_configureing the lan

I assumed that, but are you running a *seperate dedicated firewall*?

There are huge issues with running firewall software on the box you are trying
to protect. You gotta stop the intrusion *before* it gets anywhere near the
protected host.

I can almost guarantee you that if you can get your mitts on an old P2 for about
50 bucks, pop in one of the firewall sol'ns I linked to above, you will not have
this happen again.

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Re: [newbie] Trouble?? with 9.2

2003-11-28 Thread aron
On Friday 28 November 2003 05:27 am, JoeHill wrote:
 On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 04:57:09 -0800

 aron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am using shorewall,and yes I configured it _before_configureing the lan

 I assumed that, but are you running a *seperate dedicated firewall*?

 There are huge issues with running firewall software on the box you are
 trying to protect. You gotta stop the intrusion *before* it gets anywhere
 near the protected host.

 I can almost guarantee you that if you can get your mitts on an old P2 for
 about 50 bucks, pop in one of the firewall sol'ns I linked to above, you
 will not have this happen again.
I have an old Compaq just need memory and a HD to be operational (what else 
would I need ?)

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Re: [newbie] Trouble?? with 9.2

2003-11-28 Thread Derek Jennings
On Friday 28 Nov 2003 1:07 pm, aron wrote:
 On Friday 28 November 2003 05:03 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Friday 28 Nov 2003 12:57 pm, aron wrote:
   On Friday 28 November 2003 04:41 am, JoeHill wrote:
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:19:22 -0800
   
aron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 system slows waaay down system logs disapear  dsl activity at
 3.00 am(when i'm not online
   
Get yerself a firewall, d00d ;-)
   
http://www.smoothwall.org/
   
http://www.bbiagent.net/
   
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/
  
   I am using shorewall,and yes I configured it _before_configureing
   the lan
 
  Is there nothing at all in the logs to show what happens at 3a.m.?

 Was getting repeated access attempts then the logs disapeared.
 I then wiped the system and reloaded 9.1.
 sorry to not know the right procedure

  Anne

What services do you have running?
If you are not running rlogin,telnet,ssh,ftp  then it is going to be very hard 
for them to attack you. Also if you run 'Higher' level security level then 
root log on is prohibited and they will have to break your user account 
password before breaking your root password.

And I assume you are using 'strong' passwords  (ones with random alpha and 
numeric characters) There are utilities which will quickly guess a weak 
password.

derek

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Re: [newbie] Trouble?? with 9.2

2003-11-28 Thread Derek Jennings
On Friday 28 Nov 2003 1:59 pm, aron wrote:
 On Friday 28 November 2003 05:27 am, JoeHill wrote:
  On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 04:57:09 -0800
 
  aron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I am using shorewall,and yes I configured it _before_configureing the
   lan
 
  I assumed that, but are you running a *seperate dedicated firewall*?
 
  There are huge issues with running firewall software on the box you are
  trying to protect. You gotta stop the intrusion *before* it gets anywhere
  near the protected host.
 
  I can almost guarantee you that if you can get your mitts on an old P2
  for about 50 bucks, pop in one of the firewall sol'ns I linked to above,
  you will not have this happen again.

 I have an old Compaq just need memory and a HD to be operational (what else
 would I need ?)

If you run LEAF-Bering  firewall http://leaf.sourceforge.net/
you can run the whole thing from a single floppy no HD required, and about 8M 
of memory. It uses shorewall just like Mandrake so configuration is the same. 
(Well the text files are, you don't get a GUI running in 8Meg)


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Re: [newbie] Trouble?? with 9.2

2003-11-28 Thread JoeHill
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 05:59:58 -0800
aron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have an old Compaq just need memory and a HD to be operational (what else 
 would I need ?)

H, I dunno about a Compaq... ;-) My problem with an old Compaq I had was
that:

1. I couldn't get into the BIOS to shut off the go to sleep after x minutes
feature, so

2. It would go to sleep and not do *anything*.

Yours may be different.

You don't need a hard drive, any of those sol'ns will run off either a floppy or
CD alone. For the floppy versions, and even Smoothwall, IIRC, you would only
need about 16 or 32 MB of memory.

I personally use BBIAgent, but I've been meaning to switch over to Smoothwall,
as it is much stronger and has *way* more features.

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Re: [newbie] Trouble?? with 9.2

2003-11-28 Thread aron
On Friday 28 November 2003 06:19 am, JoeHill wrote:
 On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 05:59:58 -0800

 aron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have an old Compaq just need memory and a HD to be operational (what
  else would I need ?)

 H, I dunno about a Compaq... ;-) My problem with an old Compaq I had
 was that:

 1. I couldn't get into the BIOS to shut off the go to sleep after x
 minutes feature, so

 2. It would go to sleep and not do *anything*.

 Yours may be different.

 You don't need a hard drive, any of those sol'ns will run off either a
 floppy or CD alone. For the floppy versions, and even Smoothwall, IIRC, you
 would only need about 16 or 32 MB of memory.

 I personally use BBIAgent, but I've been meaning to switch over to
 Smoothwall, as it is much stronger and has *way* more features.

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Re: [newbie] Trouble?? with 9.2

2003-11-28 Thread JoeHill
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 14:06:48 +
Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you run LEAF-Bering  firewall http://leaf.sourceforge.net/
 you can run the whole thing from a single floppy no HD required, and about 8M 
 of memory. It uses shorewall just like Mandrake so configuration is the same. 
 (Well the text files are, you don't get a GUI running in 8Meg)

If yer into that, fine, but from the Smoothwall FAQ:

Installation is as simple as booting your PC with the Smoothwall CD, and
configuring ... as easy as pointing a browser at the Smoothwall system.

One thing I *did* notice, though, is that Smoothwall does require a HD, though
it only needs to be 100MB or so...god, can you even *find* HD's that small
anymore?

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Re: [newbie] File manager under 9.2?

2003-11-28 Thread Charlie Mahan
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Friday 28 November 2003 12:59 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Friday 28 November 2003 01:49 am, Charlie Mahan wrote:
 CMHope this helps Ron:
 CM
 CMRepost from the Weird things in 9.2 thread:
 CM-

 Thanks Charlie - that worked just fine. :-)

Any time Dark Lord.

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Re: [newbie] Trouble?? with 9.2

2003-11-28 Thread Alexandre Aractingi
Le ven 28/11/2003 à 14:07, aron a écrit :
 system slows waaay down system logs disapear  dsl activity at
 3.00 am(when i'm not online

I don't know if it can help, but I get the same behavior here (9.2, DSL
goes away every two days at 3am). I guess it is an operator 'problem' (I
have tele2) becausethe leds on my modem show no DSL activity at all...

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Re: [newbie] Trouble?? with 9.2

2003-11-28 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 28 Nov 2003 2:32 pm, JoeHill wrote:
 On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 14:06:48 +

 Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If you run LEAF-Bering  firewall http://leaf.sourceforge.net/
  you can run the whole thing from a single floppy no HD required,
  and about 8M of memory. It uses shorewall just like Mandrake so
  configuration is the same. (Well the text files are, you don't
  get a GUI running in 8Meg)

 If yer into that, fine, but from the Smoothwall FAQ:

 Installation is as simple as booting your PC with the Smoothwall
 CD, and configuring ... as easy as pointing a browser at the
 Smoothwall system.

 One thing I *did* notice, though, is that Smoothwall does require a
 HD, though it only needs to be 100MB or so...god, can you even
 *find* HD's that small anymore?

You'd be amazed what junk some of us keep g  Seriously, though, if 
you're stuck for a very small HDD, Aron, mail me off-list.  I may 
have finally thrown all the 100MB ones (think I did that a couple of 
months ago) but I'm very likely to have one or two 400MB ones.

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Re: [newbie] Trouble?? with 9.2

2003-11-28 Thread Charlie Mahan
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Friday 28 November 2003 7:32 am, JoeHill wrote:
 On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 14:06:48 +

 Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If you run LEAF-Bering  firewall http://leaf.sourceforge.net/
  you can run the whole thing from a single floppy no HD required, and
  about 8M of memory. It uses shorewall just like Mandrake so configuration
  is the same. (Well the text files are, you don't get a GUI running in
  8Meg)

 If yer into that, fine, but from the Smoothwall FAQ:

 Installation is as simple as booting your PC with the Smoothwall CD, and
 configuring ... as easy as pointing a browser at the Smoothwall system.

 One thing I *did* notice, though, is that Smoothwall does require a HD,
 though it only needs to be 100MB or so...god, can you even *find* HD's that
 small anymore?

I still have a few old ones. A 200 MB, a 500 MB, an 80 MB, three 1.3 GB, a 2.1 
GB, two 3.2 GB, and a couple of 6.4 GB. Left-overs from upgrades I've done 
for people. They all still work. Plus boxes full of 72 pin memory.

I don't know about your neck of the Great White North, or Aron's part of the 
U.S., but round here the flea markets and swap meets have tons of this stuff.

I should probably make the time to take some of it in and reduce the clutter 
around here. (-;

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Re: [newbie] power pack club membership.

2003-11-28 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 28 Nov 2003 11:03 am, et wrote:
 On Friday 28 November 2003 03:43 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Friday 28 Nov 2003 9:02 pm, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
   I have bought mandrake 9.2 powerpack. As per that I am supposed
   to get one month club membership. How to get the membership?
 
  If no-one here can answer, go to the Club Forums - there are some
  areas where you can ask before you are registered to the club -
  and ask there.  It has a better chance of someone from
  MandrakeSoft seeing it and replying.
 
  Anne

 when he gets the boxes they should have info about it, and when he
 runs 'drakclub' he can fill in the info. try 'drakclub' from a
 command prompt. a 'produck key' is what he will need and get in the
 powerpack boxes. 

It seems so long since my 9.1 PP arrived, I had forgotten that.

 And I am sure in the long run, you will feel it
 was money well spent. I have been a member of the club and
 downloaded the bit torrent ISOs, and have (this morning) decided to
 purchase a powerpack as a present for some friends. ET

Nice one.  I'm leaving it until the new year - just too busy to deal 
with it right now.  I agree about the club membership, though.  I'm 
in my second year.

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[newbie] Mandrake 9.2 installation with HPT374 onboard Raid device

2003-11-28 Thread Nilesh Patel
Does anyone know how to get the Highpoint HPT374 Raid device to work 
during the Mandrake 9.2 installation.

I need it to recognise my raid array attached to the HPT374 device. i 
have a Abit AT7MAX2 motherboard which has an on oard hpt374 raid device. 
on this I have attached 2 80 GB Maxtor HDs, I also have two smaller (2GB 
and 8GB) HDs on the normal IDE channels.

I have tried the opensource files provided by highpoints web site: 
http://www.highpoint-tech.com/374drivers_down.htm
But i cant get them to work with the Mandrake 9.2 installation, maybe 
I'm not using them correctly?

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Re: [newbie] Printer problems

2003-11-28 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Friday 28 November 2003 05:09 am, John Richard Smith wrote:

JRThen again, according to KDE-peripherals-printer,
JRkde believes my Z53 is on a port, local system-USB-USB
JRprinte~1-Lexmark Z53,
JRmaybe it is in kde  parlance, but if so the OS thinks it is on
JR/dev/usb/lp0
JRBut thern again Pup see's my printer as /dev/lp0 which is wrong,
JRand it should be /dev/usb/lp0 but nothing I do to alter it here takes.
JRSo I don't know ?
JR
JRJohn
JR

Have you tried removing all instances of your printer, down to zero, and 
running printerdrake again?

I did this at one point. It might help - I've seen it suggested before.

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Re: [newbie] Bad signatures in 9.2

2003-11-28 Thread Keith Powell
On Wednesday 26 Nov 2003 8:54 am, Jerry Barton wrote:
 On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:18:48 +

 Keith Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I was wondering why the Contrib repository was giving the error
  messages with Mandrake9.2, when it didn't with earlier versions.
  Should I try to solve the bad signature message problem, or ignore
  it? That was the reason for my posting. I hadn't seen anyone else
  reporting this happening.

 Keith, same thing happens here.  I just didn't think much of it since
 i got so used to texstar and plf rpms doing it.  I too haven't ever
 had a signature problem with contrib before until now.  That and i
 get some kind of mirror uses invalid list trying alternate method
 message when I install packages from contrib.  but so far i haven't
 had any that haven't installed.

Jerry

I too get the Mirror uses invalid list try alternative method message 
when installing packages from contrib. I didn't mention it, though, as 
I did not want to confuse things even more!

It's still there after a contrib update.

Things install OK, so I ignore it. 

Cheers

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Re: [newbie] Bad signatures in 9.2

2003-11-28 Thread Keith Powell
On Wednesday 26 Nov 2003 7:48 pm, Dick Gevers wrote:
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 signatures in

 9.2:
 I installed the download edition of 9.2 from magazine cover disks,
  but KPPP did not install. So I installed it from the CDs using MCC.
  When I installed it, there was the bad signature message, which I
  ignored. I could not understand why there was this message with a
  package which was on the CDs. I then downloaded and installed the
  security updates (which were clear of the error message). Next I
  downloaded and installed a package from Contrib and got the error
  message.
 
 Then I downloaded and installed all the other updates. These too
  were clear of the signature error message.
 
 Now, installing packages from the CDs don't give the bad signature
 message, but installing packages from Contrib do.
 
 I was wondering why the Contrib repository was giving the error
 messages with Mandrake9.2, when it didn't with earlier versions.
  Should I try to solve the bad signature message problem, or ignore
  it? That was the reason for my posting. I hadn't seen anyone else
  reporting this happening.
 
 Hope this is a bit clearer.

 Okay clear. There are 2 separate things here: packages on CD for
 which the signature checks and packages on the same CD`s for which
 the signature does not check. In principle that ought not to be
 possible, but, I have the same CD`s and see on Installation CD No. 2:
 kdenetwork-kppp-3.1.3-37mdk.i586.rpm

 when I go to /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS and
 type (as root)
 rpm -K *kppp* I get:
 kdenetwork-kppp-3.1.3-37mdk.i586.rpm: (sha1) dsa sha1 md5 gpg OK

 so the signature *is* okay.

 If I go into MCC - Software management - Software Media Manager -
 Manage Keys I see that CD # 2 has the original MD key # 70771FF3 next
 to it.

 So I can only assume that if and when you have bad signature message
 that at that time your rpm database was corrupt or the key was not
 associated to CD # 2.

 As far as the Contrib  Cooker packages are concerned, I understood
 that had been a lot of discussion about those, and it will apparently
 not be possible to authenticate them all (this isn`t new, the same
 applied to 9.1 packages in these categories).

 However if you look at the information page per rpm in rpmsearch
 (e.g. on MandrakeClub) you should see already mention of the key with
 which it has been signed, if any and if so which. In the latter case
 you can obtain the key as previously described and add it to your
 rpm-keyring. If it is not signed at all, you should consider whether
 or not you want to install it. If it has a high securety impact for
 you, you should not install an unsigned package.

 In such case, PH you might ask the contributor to add his personal
 GnuPG signature to the package.


Thanks for the extra information, Dick.

I'll work on it over the week-end and see follow your advice.

Been too busy the last couple of days to do anything about it.

Cheers

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Re: [newbie] Bad signatures in 9.2

2003-11-28 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:37:35 +
Keith Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I too get the Mirror uses invalid list try alternative method
 message when installing packages from contrib. I didn't mention it,
 though, as I did not want to confuse things even more!

You will get that error if you are not using ../base for your contrib
source.

The whatever/contrib/i586/ contains a synthesis.hdlist2.cz and the
rpms can be installed using such, But, it does not contain a list or
hdlist as does base so you get the 'invalid list' 


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[newbie] oldworld pm7200 scsi problems

2003-11-28 Thread Walter Grabowski
Hello I was hoping somebody fluent with power pc and mandrake 9.1 could
lend me a hand. I purchased the cd's from mandrake and have tried
installing, but no luck at all.
I have a problem with my scsi cd-rom and hard drive being recognized by
the text-based installer. I do have BootX running but I don't know any
specific arguments to config my scsi drives to work with the installer.

My rig is as follows: PowerMac 7200 at 90Mhz with 112 Megs of ram 3 Gig
HDD (scsi) Yamaha CD-RW (scsi)

Many thanks in advance for any assistance.


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Re: [newbie] Printer problems

2003-11-28 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 28 Nov 2003 7:01 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Friday 28 November 2003 05:09 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
 JRThen again, according to KDE-peripherals-printer,
 JRkde believes my Z53 is on a port, local system-USB-USB
 JRprinte~1-Lexmark Z53,
 JRmaybe it is in kde  parlance, but if so the OS thinks it is on
 JR/dev/usb/lp0
 JRBut thern again Pup see's my printer as /dev/lp0 which is
  wrong, JRand it should be /dev/usb/lp0 but nothing I do to alter
  it here takes. JRSo I don't know ?
 JR
 JRJohn
 JR

 Have you tried removing all instances of your printer, down to
 zero, and running printerdrake again?

 I did this at one point. It might help - I've seen it suggested
 before.

John, are you still on 9.1?  I've set up all my printers from MCC 
printerdrake.  For some reason yours seems to be confused as to 
whether it is connected by parallel port or usb.  You can modify the 
settings, including the connection, there in printerdrake.  Don't 
forget, though, that unless you back out gracefully your changes will 
not be saved.

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Re: [newbie] Bad signatures in 9.2

2003-11-28 Thread Jerry Barton
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:15:57 +
Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 You will get that error if you are not using ../base for your contrib
 source.
 
 The whatever/contrib/i586/ contains a synthesis.hdlist2.cz and the
 rpms can be installed using such, But, it does not contain a list or
 hdlist as does base so you get the 'invalid list' 

Thanks Charles, 

My original contrib url is
ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/contrib/i586
path to hdlist: ../../i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz
(this was the urpmi.addmedia given by easy urpmi on plf)
that path to hdlist was the only /base dir i could find.  So as far as I
can tell it was reading the right hdlist.  I'll mess around with it and
see.  I even tried updating the contrib source or using a different one
 and it still gives me that error when installing from contrib.  I'll
report back after trying a few things.

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[newbie] Old-World install problem

2003-11-28 Thread Max Malzkuhn
Hello All,

My first post, so hope it's not an old question.  I have a g3 
Wallstreet.  I get as far as the install app loading and past the selection 
of language and license agreement.  I get a message saying it loaded the 
pcmcia drivers, but then  everything stops.  Eventuallyl the CD spins down 
and I am sitting at the install screen with no messages, license is still 
selected on the left, and the watch timer.  I've let it sit like this for 
half an hour with no luck.  I tried adding video=atyfb:vmode:14,cmode:32, 
but it still just sits there.  I get the same result if I use the benh 
kernel and all-benh.gz image or the vmlinuz kernel and the all.gz 
image.  Always just stops at the same point.  Any suggestions?

Thanks,

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Re: [newbie] leaving linux again

2003-11-28 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Friday 28 November 2003 16:17, Void lon iXaarii wrote:
 seems like you really have a strong opinion on this :-)

 .. still .. remote is cool .. having a remote for my computer is just
 awesome :) ... and now I can record Daffy duck  stuff ;)

Paah!, since I've installed linux I lost the time and patience to watch TV.
There's always something to be fixed or...or to enjoy a brief moment of 
victory when it all runs perfectly, only to gather that the next version just 
came out;)

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[newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-28 Thread Langsley T Russell
Hi.

I'm running 9.2 and when I try to run the update from the control center
it tells me that I have at least one selected media but that they are
all disabled. When I go to the Software Media Manager as directed to
enable the media. They are all marked enabled. I've tried unchecking
them one at a time then rechecking them and trying again but I still get
the message, that they are all disabled. I've even done a couple of
reboots over a couple of days but I still get the same all
disabledmessage.  What can I do to correct this and get my installation
of ML-9.2 updated with the latest patches??
TIA 

LTR  }}:{(
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Re: [newbie] Trouble?? with 9.2

2003-11-28 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Friday 28 November 2003 15:19, JoeHill wrote:
 I personally use BBIAgent, but I've been meaning to switch over to
 Smoothwall, as it is much stronger and has *way* more features.

I've got an old P166 16M ram running Smoothwall for over 2 yrs now 
(24/24)..very goood!
I don't know about the feature thing but it's rock-solid, uses about 30M 
HD-space (not counting the logfiles of course) and is almost silent i.e. I 
cut out all the fans incl. the one on the P166 chip.the only thing you 
can hear is the HD writing the log-files.
If I switched of logging I wouldn't hear anything at all:)

To top it all of, I wedged the thing vertically between my bookshelf and the 
heating radiator so it's not in a cool place either.

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-28 Thread Derek Jennings
On Friday 28 Nov 2003 10:30 pm, Langsley T Russell wrote:
 Hi.

 I'm running 9.2 and when I try to run the update from the control center
 it tells me that I have at least one selected media but that they are
 all disabled. When I go to the Software Media Manager as directed to
 enable the media. They are all marked enabled. I've tried unchecking
 them one at a time then rechecking them and trying again but I still get
 the message, that they are all disabled. I've even done a couple of
 reboots over a couple of days but I still get the same all
 disabledmessage.  What can I do to correct this and get my installation
 of ML-9.2 updated with the latest patches??
 TIA

 LTR  }}:{(
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Do you actually have an 'update' media defined?

Go here http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php and follow the instructions to 
add an 'update' media source. While you are there add  a source for 'plf' and 
'contrib' as well and you will be able to install 100's of cool extra 
applications online.

Note: Do *not* do what it says about  urpmi.removemedia -a or else you will 
lose your CD sources.

Note: The web page will give you a command to copy and paste into a terminal 
window. The window has to be a 'root' window. Type 'su' in a regular terminal 
window to become root.
Copy/paste in Linux is mouse highlight/wheel click

Note: If you do not want to use the command line install the urpmi.update 
package from your CDs using the Mandrake Software manager.
Then run urpmi.update and a nice little GUI will guide you through adding 
sources.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] Uninstall

2003-11-28 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Friday 28 November 2003 00:20, Charlie Mahan wrote:
 BTW if anyone is becoming so sensitive they can't stand to read posts that
 were never meant as personal attacks let me know. I'll happily walk away
 from the newbie list again.

Wot, walk out on us lovely fella's?
You really are a hard bastard;)

Like taking candy from a kid.

Bears on your path,
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[newbie] mozilla-1.4.1

2003-11-28 Thread Charles A Edwards

9.2 mozilla-1.4.1 rpms are now available from my site.

Also added
 galeonrebuilt for mozilla-1.4.1
 gentooa file mgr (not the distro)
 cantus-2..a gtk2 GUI mp3 tagger


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Re: [newbie] Unninstalling packages

2003-11-28 Thread Eric Huff
 How do I unninstall packages that were installed from the source?

If you're lucky, there's instructions, or an option in the makefile.

Otherwise, you just have to delete all the files it installed.

I don't know if source compilations change menu setting, etc.

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[newbie] External editors with Kmail/Sylpheed-claws/Knode/Pan?

2003-11-28 Thread Melissa Reese
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Hi,

Can anyone recommend some capable text editors that I can use as 
external editors with various email and news clients?

Being a Virgo, I'm pretty picky about how I present messages, and 
would like a bit more plain text formatting functionality than I'm 
finding, at least so far, within the various email/news clients.

Here are a couple of things I'd like to be able to do (perhaps these 
*are* available already from within the clients mentioned in the 
subject, and if so, feel free to point them out to me)...

1) The ability to re-flow text - especially quoted text of any quote 
level - to my preferred wrap length.  This would be especially 
useful when replying to messages where I cut up a paragraph of quoted 
text into smaller bits in order to insert my comments.  A small 
example:

When I cut up quoted paragraphs for reply insertion, the bits of 
quoted text can look like this:

 qqq
 qq
 qqq

In cases like that, I would like to be able to re-flow it to look more 
like this:

 q
 qqq
 qqq

2) If I'm quoting text that has been mangled by the previous sender's 
email/news client, I'd like to be able to clean it up. An example of 
this:

Sometimes, I'm faced with something like this:

 q
 q
 qqq
q
 qqq
 qq

I would like to clean that up as well.

3) When I create or quote numbered items (or some other type of 
bulleted items), I'd like to be able to format/re-format the items 
so that the second and subsequent lines are indented to start 
directly underneath the first line, instead of those lines starting 
at the very left margin, as you can see in this email.

In Windows, my email client (The Bat!) can do these sorts of things 
(and much more!), and I've also used a cleanup utility called 
MessageCleaner along with my news reader to accomplish these 
things.

I'm looking at Emacs, and while it has many options, It'll take me a 
while to learn all of its capabilities, and I haven't yet found the 
above mentioned options in it.

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-28 Thread Derek Jennings
te in Linux is mouse highlight/wheel click

 Note: If you do not want to use the command line install the urpmi.update
 package from your CDs using the Mandrake Software manager.
 Then run urpmi.update and a nice little GUI will guide you through adding
 sources.

Drat. I should have said 'urpmi.setup'

Sorry
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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-28 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:30:47 -0500
Langsley T Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi.
 
 I'm running 9.2 and when I try to run the update from the control
 center it tells me that I have at least one selected media but
 that they are all disabled. When I go to the Software Media
 Manager as directed to enable the media. They are all marked
 enabled. I've tried unchecking them one at a time then rechecking
 them and trying again but I still get the message, that they are
 all disabled. I've even done a couple of reboots over a couple of
 days but I still get the same all disabledmessage.  What can I
 do to correct this and get my installation of ML-9.2 updated with
 the latest patches?? TIA 
 
 LTR  }}:{(
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
1. su to root
2. type urpmi.removemedia -a
3. Go to http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/ and follow simple
instructions.


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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-28 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:44:05 +
Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 28 Nov 2003 10:30 pm, Langsley T Russell wrote:
  Hi.
 
  I'm running 9.2 and when I try to run the update from the
  control center it tells me that I have at least one selected
  media but that they are all disabled. When I go to the Software
  Media Manager as directed to enable the media. They are all
  marked enabled. I've tried unchecking them one at a time then
  rechecking them and trying again but I still get the message,
  that they are all disabled. I've even done a couple of reboots
  over a couple of days but I still get the same all
  disabledmessage.  What can I do to correct this and get my
  installation of ML-9.2 updated with the latest patches??
  TIA
 
  LTR  }}:{(
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Do you actually have an 'update' media defined?
 
 Go here http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php and follow the
 instructions to add an 'update' media source. While you are there
 add  a source for 'plf' and 'contrib' as well and you will be able
 to install 100's of cool extra applications online.
 
 Note: Do *not* do what it says about  urpmi.removemedia -a or
 else you will lose your CD sources.
 
 Note: The web page will give you a command to copy and paste into
 a terminal window. The window has to be a 'root' window. Type 'su'
 in a regular terminal window to become root.
 Copy/paste in Linux is mouse highlight/wheel click
 
 Note: If you do not want to use the command line install the
 urpmi.update package from your CDs using the Mandrake Software
 manager. Then run urpmi.update and a nice little GUI will guide
 you through adding sources.
 
 HTH
 
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Curious what the advantage of keeping the CD sources might be?

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-28 Thread Margot
Lee Wiggers wrote:
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:44:05 +
Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Friday 28 Nov 2003 10:30 pm, Langsley T Russell wrote:

Hi.

I'm running 9.2 and when I try to run the update from the
control center it tells me that I have at least one selected
media but that they are all disabled. When I go to the Software
Media Manager as directed to enable the media. They are all
marked enabled. I've tried unchecking them one at a time then
rechecking them and trying again but I still get the message,
that they are all disabled. I've even done a couple of reboots
over a couple of days but I still get the same all
disabledmessage.  What can I do to correct this and get my
installation of ML-9.2 updated with the latest patches??
TIA
LTR  }}:{(
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Do you actually have an 'update' media defined?

Go here http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php and follow the
instructions to add an 'update' media source. While you are there
add  a source for 'plf' and 'contrib' as well and you will be able
to install 100's of cool extra applications online.
Note: Do *not* do what it says about  urpmi.removemedia -a or
else you will lose your CD sources.
Note: The web page will give you a command to copy and paste into
a terminal window. The window has to be a 'root' window. Type 'su'
in a regular terminal window to become root.
Copy/paste in Linux is mouse highlight/wheel click
Note: If you do not want to use the command line install the
urpmi.update package from your CDs using the Mandrake Software
manager. Then run urpmi.update and a nice little GUI will guide
you through adding sources.
HTH

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If you have broadband, probably no advantage at all...but if you're on a 
slow dialup, and particularly if you're paying by the minute for your 
connection, it is much faster (and cheaper!) to add packages from the CD 
sources. That way, you only spend precious internet time downloading 
packages that aren't on the CDs.

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-28 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:17:47 +
Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Lee Wiggers wrote:
  On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:44:05 +
  Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
 On Friday 28 Nov 2003 10:30 pm, Langsley T Russell wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 I'm running 9.2 and when I try to run the update from the
 control center it tells me that I have at least one selected
 media but that they are all disabled. When I go to the Software
 Media Manager as directed to enable the media. They are all
 marked enabled. I've tried unchecking them one at a time then
 rechecking them and trying again but I still get the message,
 that they are all disabled. I've even done a couple of reboots
 over a couple of days but I still get the same all
 disabledmessage.  What can I do to correct this and get my
 installation of ML-9.2 updated with the latest patches??
 TIA
 
 LTR  }}:{(
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Do you actually have an 'update' media defined?
 
 Go here http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php and follow the
 instructions to add an 'update' media source. While you are
 thereadd  a source for 'plf' and 'contrib' as well and you will
 be ableto install 100's of cool extra applications online.
 
 Note: Do *not* do what it says about  urpmi.removemedia -a or
 else you will lose your CD sources.
 
 Note: The web page will give you a command to copy and paste
 intoa terminal window. The window has to be a 'root' window.
 Type 'su'in a regular terminal window to become root.
 Copy/paste in Linux is mouse highlight/wheel click
 
 Note: If you do not want to use the command line install the
 urpmi.update package from your CDs using the Mandrake Software
 manager. Then run urpmi.update and a nice little GUI will guide
 you through adding sources.
 
 HTH
 
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  Curious what the advantage of keeping the CD sources might be?
  
  Lee
  
 
 If you have broadband, probably no advantage at all...but if
 you're on a slow dialup, and particularly if you're paying by the
 minute for your connection, it is much faster (and cheaper!) to
 add packages from the CD sources. That way, you only spend
 precious internet time downloading packages that aren't on the
 CDs.
 
 Margot
 
 
 
Thought about it after I put my foot in, as usual.  
Thanks

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-28 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Friday 28 November 2003 23:00, Lee Wiggers wrote:

snip
 Curious what the advantage of keeping the CD sources might be?
/snip

If you've got a fast connection : none .

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Re: [newbie] Printer problems

2003-11-28 Thread John Richard Smith
Ronald J. Hall wrote:

On Friday 28 November 2003 05:09 am, John Richard Smith wrote:

 

Have you tried removing all instances of your printer, down to zero, and 
running printerdrake again?

I did this at one point. It might help - I've seen it suggested before.

 

 

No I haven't , I didn't think to do this, and so I did.

Turns out there must be a bug somewhere in the setup software, because, 
my usb printer is detected right enough as /dev/usb/lp0  but if you 
don't watch out very carefully indeed it is written up as /dev/usb/lp1 
which is wrong. This is in auto detect . But even in manual it will not 
accept the correct /dev/usb/lp0 without substancial fidling about , but 
eventually I did get it set up as being on /dev/usb/lp0.

I think it's dot actually every case, sometimes it seems to detect and 
set it up correctly, sometimes it mucks it up.It's hard to replicate the 
circumstances when it does it right and when it does it wrong. But I 
think there is a problem with the reliability of the detection and 
setting up.

For the moment it's working.Have no reason to think it will not go on 
working.

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Re: [newbie] mozilla-1.4.1

2003-11-28 Thread John Richard Smith
Charles A Edwards wrote:

9.2 mozilla-1.4.1 rpms are now available from my site.

Also added
galeonrebuilt for mozilla-1.4.1
gentooa file mgr (not the distro)
cantus-2..a gtk2 GUI mp3 tagger
   Charles

 

Charlie,
Can you list that which constitutes a full list of mozilla-1.4.1 
including all options and dependencies, thanks,

John

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Re: [newbie] Printer problems

2003-11-28 Thread John Richard Smith
Anne Wilson wrote:

On Friday 28 Nov 2003 7:01 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 

On Friday 28 November 2003 05:09 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
   

JRThen again, according to KDE-peripherals-printer,
JRkde believes my Z53 is on a port, local system-USB-USB
JRprinte~1-Lexmark Z53,
JRmaybe it is in kde  parlance, but if so the OS thinks it is on
JR/dev/usb/lp0
JRBut thern again Pup see's my printer as /dev/lp0 which is
wrong, JRand it should be /dev/usb/lp0 but nothing I do to alter
it here takes. JRSo I don't know ?
JR
JRJohn
JR
 

Have you tried removing all instances of your printer, down to
zero, and running printerdrake again?
I did this at one point. It might help - I've seen it suggested
before.
   

John, are you still on 9.1?  I've set up all my printers from MCC 
printerdrake.  For some reason yours seems to be confused as to 
whether it is connected by parallel port or usb.  You can modify the 
settings, including the connection, there in printerdrake.  Don't 
forget, though, that unless you back out gracefully your changes will 
not be saved.

Anne
 

 

No I have to fixkde print in  M9.1 before I can spare the partition that 
was where M9.0 was for M9.2.

But looks like wiping the lot and starting again has done the trick, I 
think M9.1 had a bug in the detection and setup of usb printer port. But 
I guess it's old news now.

Thanks anyway

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Re: [newbie] Unninstalling packages

2003-11-28 Thread Jerry Barton
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 14:47:15 -0800
Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  How do I unninstall packages that were installed from the source?
 
 If you're lucky, there's instructions, or an option in the makefile.
 
 Otherwise, you just have to delete all the files it installed.
 
 I don't know if source compilations change menu setting, etc.
 
 eric

If you use checkinstall to install from source (it's in contrib, i
believe... you'd do ./configure/make then instead of make install you'd
do checkinstall)  it creates an rpm in /usr/src/RPM/RPMS and it can be
installed and removed using rpm. otherwise you have to go a-hunting and
delete any files that it installed manually.  I've found checkinstall to
be a great tool for trying out software.  I'd recommend it to anyone
building from source.  
Also to reduce hunting if I'm going about it the regular ./configure
make make install route I prefer leaving the prefix as /usr/local and
adding /usr/local/bin to my$PATH in ~/.bashrc (and /usr/local/lib/ to
ld.so.conf) so finding any bits and pieces will be easier.

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Re: [newbie] Trouble?? with 9.2

2003-11-28 Thread JoeHill
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:40:42 +0100
H.J.Bathoorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've got an old P166 16M ram running Smoothwall for over 2 yrs now 
 (24/24)..very goood!
 I don't know about the feature thing but it's rock-solid, uses about 30M 
 HD-space (not counting the logfiles of course) and is almost silent i.e. I 
 cut out all the fans incl. the one on the P166 chip.the only thing you 
 can hear is the HD writing the log-files.
 If I switched of logging I wouldn't hear anything at all:)
 
 To top it all of, I wedged the thing vertically between my bookshelf and the 
 heating radiator so it's not in a cool place either.

I've got a P90 running my BBIAgent, with no HD, but I *do* have an old 2GB HD
and I've got the Smoothwall ISO burned and ready to go, it's just that
my BBIAgent box has been so invisible to me for so long (it's uptime must be in
the several months by now...only time it ever went down is a power failure), I
just never think of it. It's been going like that for about 3 years now, since
before I started using Linux.

Actually, like you it's way out of the way, behind a panel next to my desk,
you can see a shot on my site :-)

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-28 Thread Derek Jennings
On Friday 28 Nov 2003 11:00 pm, Lee Wiggers wrote:
SNIP
 
  Note: Do *not* do what it says about  urpmi.removemedia -a or
  else you will lose your CD sources.
 

 Curious what the advantage of keeping the CD sources might be?

 Lee



The advantage is that I do not have to explain how to put the CD sources back 
again ;-)

In the last month we have had two posts from newbies who complained about 
losing their CD sources after executing this command.

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-28 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Friday 28 November 2003 23:53, Derek Jennings wrote:

snip
 The advantage is that I do not have to explain how to put the CD
 sources back again ;-)
/snip

Which brings up a rather naive question :

Let's say a newbie leaves his original CD sources as is and then 
decides to add some more, following your excellent advice, Derek.
Then, being on the easy urpmi- site, he/she -accidentally defines 
main once again, this time from some mirror on the net. Now, our 
newbie has two sources for main.

What happens ? - Will urpmi get confused ? - Or just spit out a 
message like : you idiot, why bother me with two identical 
sources, waisting my time ? - Do you want to shuffle CD's or watch 
the blinkenlights on your modem ?

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-28 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:53:05 +
Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 28 Nov 2003 11:00 pm, Lee Wiggers wrote:
 SNIP
  
   Note: Do *not* do what it says about  urpmi.removemedia -a
   or else you will lose your CD sources.
  
 
  Curious what the advantage of keeping the CD sources might be?
 
  Lee
 
 
 
 The advantage is that I do not have to explain how to put the CD
 sources back again ;-)
 
 In the last month we have had two posts from newbies who
 complained about losing their CD sources after executing this
 command.
 
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Now I got it!

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[newbie] knoppix

2003-11-28 Thread Lee Wiggers

Can someone tell me why knoppix installs perfectly on all of my 7
boxes of various and sundry (Spelled Cheap, mostly) vintage boxes
without a hitch.  Even a beautiful blonde telling me she is
preparing to load.  Or preparing to get loaded or something.  (Don't
argue.  I know she's a blonde.)

I appreciate mdk giving me gray hair with every switch, being the
sporting type that I am, but some prefer less panic.

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-28 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:13:41 +
Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 28 November 2003 23:53, Derek Jennings wrote:
 
 snip
  The advantage is that I do not have to explain how to put the CD
  sources back again ;-)
 /snip
 
 Which brings up a rather naive question :
 
 Let's say a newbie leaves his original CD sources as is and then
 
 decides to add some more, following your excellent advice, Derek.
 Then, being on the easy urpmi- site, he/she -accidentally
 defines main once again, this time from some mirror on the net.
 Now, our newbie has two sources for main.
 
 What happens ? - Will urpmi get confused ? - Or just spit out a 
 message like : you idiot, why bother me with two identical 
 sources, waisting my time ? - Do you want to shuffle CD's or watch
 
 the blinkenlights on your modem ?
 
 Kaj Haulrich. 
 
 
 
Hey, I've tried every wrong way to do all this stuff.

Way back in 8.2 as I recall, everything listed twice in gurpmi,
anyway.  Just assumed I needed reinforcements maybe?

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Re: [newbie] knoppix

2003-11-28 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Saturday 29 November 2003 00:29, Lee Wiggers wrote:
 Can someone tell me why knoppix installs perfectly on all of my 7
 boxes of various and sundry (Spelled Cheap, mostly) vintage boxes
 without a hitch.  Even a beautiful blonde telling me she is
 preparing to load.  Or preparing to get loaded or something. 
 (Don't argue.  I know she's a blonde.)

 I appreciate mdk giving me gray hair with every switch, being the
 sporting type that I am, but some prefer less panic.

Lee, do you really install Knoppix ? - I never managed to do so, 
althougt I use Knoppix on my PC at work (a hospital where the 
IT-department loves to collect viruses).

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-28 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Saturday 29 November 2003 00:32, Lee Wiggers wrote:

snip
 Hey, I've tried every wrong way to do all this stuff.

 Way back in 8.2 as I recall, everything listed twice in gurpmi,
 anyway.  Just assumed I needed reinforcements maybe?
/snip

Maybe. Didn't seem to do any harm, though. After 9.0, the first 
thing I did was to remove the CD sources what with having 
broadband. Nevertheless, I constantly order my Powerpack CD's from 
Mandrake. Being no big X-mas fanatic, they come in quite handy at 
yuletide as gifts for Microsoft-geeks. Teaches them something about 
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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-28 Thread Derek Jennings
On Saturday 29 Nov 2003 1:13 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 On Friday 28 November 2003 23:53, Derek Jennings wrote:

 snip

  The advantage is that I do not have to explain how to put the CD
  sources back again ;-)

 /snip

 Which brings up a rather naive question :

 Let's say a newbie leaves his original CD sources as is and then
 decides to add some more, following your excellent advice, Derek.
 Then, being on the easy urpmi- site, he/she -accidentally defines
 main once again, this time from some mirror on the net. Now, our
 newbie has two sources for main.

 What happens ? - Will urpmi get confused ? - Or just spit out a
 message like : you idiot, why bother me with two identical
 sources, waisting my time ? - Do you want to shuffle CD's or watch
 the blinkenlights on your modem ?

 Kaj Haulrich.

I don't know. Want to try it and tell us?

At a guess I would say it would prefer the CD sources.

Of course your question is actually rhetorical since the CDs and 'main' are 
not actually identical.  'Main' contains the  kernel-source package which is 
not on the CDs.  (Although it is  superceded by the one in 'updates' )

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[newbie] OT? Critical Flan in GnuPG

2003-11-28 Thread Chris
Thought I'd pass this along.  Not sure if it applies to anyone.


- Critical flaw in GnuPG -
 Oxygen3 24h-365d, by Panda Software (http://www.pandasoftware.com)

Madrid, November 28, 2003 - A critical security flaw has been found in the
GnuPG encryption software which could compromise a user's private key in
seconds.

This flaw affects versions 1.0.2 and later of GnuPG which use ElGamal keys
for encryption and signing (type 20). ElGamal keys used for encryption only
(type 16) are not affected by this flaw. 
 
Although use of sign+encrypt keys is not considered good cryptographic
practice, the OpenPGP standard allows them to be used and GnuPG supports
creation and handling of them. Fortunately, these keys are not used very
often nor are they created by default in GnuPG, since -compared to RSA or
DSA keys - they have significant disadvantages with regard to security and
performance. Actually, users must create ElGamal sign+encrypt keys through
specific options in GnuPG.
 
To avoid being affected by this vulnerability, it is advisable not to
generate ElGamal keys for encryption and signing (type 20), revoke the keys
that are already in use and take into account that all the material signed
and encrypted with them could have been compromised. GnuPG has already
announced that future versions of the program will not allow these keys to
be created.

More information at:
http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-announce/2003q4/000276.html

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Re: [newbie] OT? Critical Flan in GnuPG

2003-11-28 Thread Melissa Reese
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On Friday 28 November 2003 05:25 pm, Chris wrote:

 Thought I'd pass this along.  Not sure if it applies to anyone.

- Critical flaw in GnuPG -

[snip]

It does indeed apply to a minority of GnuPG users who elected to 
create *non-default* type ElGamal signing keys.  Anyone who only 
created the default type of signing/encrypting key pairs are not 
affected by this flaw.

However, your subject line mentioned Critical Flan.  For more 
information about critical flan, please see:

http://www.gourmetsleuth.com/flan.htm

;-)

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Re: [newbie] OT? Critical Flan in GnuPG

2003-11-28 Thread Chris
On Friday 28 November 2003 07:53 pm, Melissa Reese wrote:
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 However, your subject line mentioned Critical Flan.  For more
 information about critical flan, please see:

 http://www.gourmetsleuth.com/flan.htm

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[newbie] test

2003-11-28 Thread Fajar Priyanto



Sorry for the disturbance guys.
I'm having problem with this list.
Pls ignore.
Thanks.

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Re: [newbie] knoppix

2003-11-28 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:41:41 +
Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Saturday 29 November 2003 00:29, Lee Wiggers wrote:
  Can someone tell me why knoppix installs perfectly on all of my
  7 boxes of various and sundry (Spelled Cheap, mostly) vintage
  boxes without a hitch.  Even a beautiful blonde telling me she
  is preparing to load.  Or preparing to get loaded or something. 
  (Don't argue.  I know she's a blonde.)
 
  I appreciate mdk giving me gray hair with every switch, being
  the sporting type that I am, but some prefer less panic.
 
 Lee, do you really install Knoppix ? - I never managed to do so,
 
 althougt I use Knoppix on my PC at work (a hospital where the 
 IT-department loves to collect viruses).
 
 Kaj Haulrich. 
 
 
 

No, if install means tuck it in on the hd and use it every day. 
Hmmm, guess I wasn't asking the right question.

Why does it just come up with a working kde desktop every time,
then?  Cranky laptop to 99.00 piece of junk. 

No video issues, xmms works flawlessly, drives are all there,
readable.  I didn't try writing a file because of the ntfs issue.

Didn't have to unmute a multitude of strange acronyms, even.

I know there's another step to load and use my day to day programs,
but what does that have to do with the basic housekeeping?

I'm not being obtuse (I don't think.). I'm waiting for the lightbulb
to light.

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 update rpms.

2003-11-28 Thread L.V.Gandhi
On Friday 28 Nov 2003 4:17 pm, Derek Jennings wrote:
 On Friday 28 Nov 2003 9:06 pm, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
  I want to selectively download rpms for updates for 9.2 powerpack. How to
  go about it.
  1)From where I can download
  2)how to know what rpms are new compared what was provided in powerpack?
  3)how about dependency.
  I want to avoid direct urpmi updating from site as I want to store those
  rpms for future use and also for using in other's machines

 Run 'drakclub' and enter your product key. That will define a urpmi source
 to enable you to install 'commercial' applications.  There is nothing in
 the commercial folder you do not already have in your Powerpack

 Then go here http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?name=Mirrors-list

 to define club-contributions  etc  Club contrib contains packages not in
 your Powerpack.

 If you do not want to use urpmi then you can browse and download the club
 packages here http://rpms.mandrakeclub.com/

 Note you do not need club membership to get security updates and bug fixes.
 You can get them off any public mirror under the mandrake-devel/updates
 folder.

 derek
May be I was not clear in my question.
I want to update my 9.2. For that I want to download latest rpms, but not all, 
only that I need. I want to do it simply because I can use it later in my own 
pc or some other machines I install also.
How to know what are all the latest rpms available than what was given in 
powerpack?

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Re: [newbie] power pack club membership.

2003-11-28 Thread L.V.Gandhi
On Friday 28 Nov 2003 4:02 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
 On Friday 28 November 2003 03:02 pm, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
  I have bought mandrake 9.2 powerpack. As per that I am supposed to get
  one month club membership. How to get the membership?

 Have you registered your powerpack on-line? I think the membership is done
 as part of that registration?
Howto register?
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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-28 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:52:20 +
Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Saturday 29 November 2003 00:32, Lee Wiggers wrote:
 
 snip
  Hey, I've tried every wrong way to do all this stuff.
 
  Way back in 8.2 as I recall, everything listed twice in gurpmi,
  anyway.  Just assumed I needed reinforcements maybe?
 /snip
 
 Maybe. Didn't seem to do any harm, though. After 9.0, the first 
 thing I did was to remove the CD sources what with having 
 broadband. Nevertheless, I constantly order my Powerpack CD's from
 
 Mandrake. Being no big X-mas fanatic, they come in quite handy at 
 yuletide as gifts for Microsoft-geeks. Teaches them something
 about Darwinism.
 
 Kaj Haulrich.
 
 
 
I gave a set of CD's to a friend once.  The problem, I've learned,
is that you are then his only source of assistance.

I've already been married 4 times, and prefer women as my prime
source of aggravation.

Lee

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Re: [newbie] power pack club membership.

2003-11-28 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 29 November 2003 02:47 am, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
 On Friday 28 Nov 2003 4:02 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
  On Friday 28 November 2003 03:02 pm, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
   I have bought mandrake 9.2 powerpack. As per that I am supposed to get
   one month club membership. How to get the membership?
 
  Have you registered your powerpack on-line? I think the membership is
  done as part of that registration?

 Howto register?

run drakclub.
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