Re: [newbie] Complete failure
On Friday 05 Dec 2003 8:46 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Seems to be the power supply , so I'm after a new one, hopefully more reliable one, but maybe I'm going to have to think more seriously about surge protectors if they are any good.Either that or buy a spare. John, Argos do a really good line of surge protectors - check their catalogue for a range of silver-coloured ones. Some also protect your telephone/modem. It's amazing how many problems have disappeared since we made sure that every computer in the place is fitted with one of those. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Sound and video
Actually my questions are dumb questions. First: is there a master volume control in Mandrake 9.2? I can only hear sound when the amplifier of my home theatre is at its maximum. Second, I want to install the NVIDIA drivers, and there are the IA32, and the AMD64, both supporting my Geoforce3 (Platinum) card. My processor is an Athlon 1.4 Ghz. I reckon the 32 and 64 refer to a 32 bit OS and a 64 bit OS respectively, but I am in doubt about the AMD bit which might refer to the processor. Thanks for allowing me to dumb-ask. Teilhard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Complete failure
On Saturday 06 Dec 2003 1:57 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Friday 05 December 2003 03:37 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: whack Turns out that my powersupply has failed. I substituted a know to work powersupply and she booted. Put the old one back and she fails. My guess is that the 3.3v line is supplying under voltage. Just goes to show that powercuts can easily damage powersupply units. Not only that, but it's the second unit, known to me,to go the same way in my locality, in the last month. Seems like Milton Keynes is becoming the powersurge capital ok the uk. Anyway, thanks, for your help. Now for a new PSU. John John: It might be a good time to consider a good UPS, too. It will allow you to keep right on working through brief power outages; for longer ones, the UPS will do a clean system shutdown without any effort on your part. An additional advantage is that the better ones provide a constant supply voltage to the PC which will prolong the life of your PSU and monitor, as well as filtering some of the extraneous spikes that come down the line. -- cmg Agreed - I use one on my box. However, the only ones that do a tidy shutdown, as far as I can see, are the APC ones, and unfortunately they are rather expensive. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sound and video
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 06 December 2003 02:38 am, Teilhard Knight wrote: Actually my questions are dumb questions. First: is there a master volume control in Mandrake 9.2? I can only hear sound when the amplifier of my home theatre is at its maximum. Second, I want to install the NVIDIA drivers, and there are the IA32, and the AMD64, both supporting my Geoforce3 (Platinum) card. My processor is an Athlon 1.4 Ghz. I reckon the 32 and 64 refer to a 32 bit OS and a 64 bit OS respectively, but I am in doubt about the AMD bit which might refer to the processor. Thanks for allowing me to dumb-ask. Teilhard IA32 or IA64 are Intel architecture 32 and 64 bit AMD64 is well ..you guessed it .. for your AMD Athlon 1.4, so download the AMD64 driver and make sure you look at the readme file 1st. I have an Intel and I rushed thru it to get it working and ended up mangling it. So prepare yourself. You have any more questions post them. Good Luck RickS - -- Registered Linux user #338463. http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/0Oktc8FpDuUpLEERAg0CAKCbKoza4NjaqclZMmHaK8kP3kd0SwCfWSQN WsoPOotBgqpaYoExZsr5hMg= =hmyf -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Asus Motherboards and Mandrake - will it work 100% ?
On Saturday 06 December 2003 03:46, Dan LaBine wrote: Janus; I'm running many Asus boards without problems. The new (?) Asus P4S533-MX is 110% Ok for Mandrake 9.2. If it doesn't work for you, I'll buy it from you. Thank you. That's good news! Does anybody know about how well the Asus P4P800-VM works with Mandrake? One word of caution though. Break down and buy a Video Card! Most boards run like Doggy-Doo-Doo using on-board video controllers, so do yourself a favor and beg, borrow, steal, or otherwise acquire a good video card. The PC will primary be for Office-applications, but I know that the build-in video controller is not top of anything. This is why im am considering the Asus P4P800-VM which has AGP-port. -j -- Spiren er landet! http://spiren.janus.dk Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
Hey Lee ! How goes it? Whaddya mean Solve something ? Hell,..I already solved the square root of PI ! What else do you want? Grin! Oh, yeah, and I also figured out the meaning of Life ! It didn't take quite as long as PI, but I can now cross that off my list of things to do ! Grin! Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 12/6/2003 at 8:09 AM Lee Wiggers wrote: On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:55:27 -0500 JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 07:43:30 -0500 Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Gang ! After a short hiatus while I dumped a crappy ISP, I'm back and ready to,..um, ...er,.. read emails, answer emails, cause and solve problems, and all the other things I normally do ! Grin! ! Grin ! Miss me? Hah ! Thought not! But things were probably getting too quiet in here anyway ! HHHmmm, think I'll send some emails in HTML! Yeah! And I think it's high time to steal threads, and, and, Oh, the hell with it ! I'm back. Yeah! For starters, could you get rid of the reply-to? http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette ...and as far as Lyvim, that would be *growing down*... ;-) -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ One of the most dangerous errors of our time is the belief that human beings are uniquely violent animals, barely restrained from committing atrocities on each other by the constraints of ethics, religion, and the state.-- Eric S. Raymond Don't just sit there.Solve something. Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:12:51 -0500 Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see this as a problem though, since both email addresses are in fact mine. The reply-to address is simply an alias which is capable of bypassing the filters. In other words, I can't use it as my primary account, only as a reply-to addy to bypass the filters. That's all well and good that *you* don't see it as a problem, unfortunately it causes headaches on the list, so either remove it or expect some headaches of your own. -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ He who controls others may be powerful, but he who has mastered himself is mightier still.-- Lao Tsu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Font spacing in kword in M9.1
Charlie wrote: I usually adopt helvetica, but it doesn't seem to make any difference. It looks reasonable on screen, I say reasonable,though perhaps still a little close, but in print preview, and actual print off, it is all too close set to be easily readable. I never had this problem before. John You haven't changed any printer settings? I don't have Kword installed, so can't help. I have always used OpenOffice.org. Charlie It seems like I will be joining you with OO if I cannot fix my kword print problem. I have a choice of 4 drivers for my Z53 printers(of which we have 3) and I make a practice of setting up all 4 every time. 3 of these drivers are ghostscript, the 4th is a proprietary(lexmark) , and all 4 each work to a degree, and I don't have any problem with the character spacing with any other app like mozilla for instance, which I use quite often Only kword, and I think kde in general, though I might be wrong there as I haven't test it with the likes of kspread, which I gave up on some time ago as I couldn't solve it's basic problems. I like kword, it has many good features, and the developers have made it more than a word processor, so I want to make it work if I can. If the problem is with the drivers, then I don't see why it is, since other apps can use them without problems, still , even if it is with the drivers, I sure don't know where and what I am supposed to do with it. I mean the driver setting include many options, but nothing I would sort of figure have anything to do with the character spacing. If I am wrong , by all means correct me I want to learn what to do as much as the next man. I'm guessing it's a kde setup problem , but what ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
Not a problem Joe! I stocked up on Tylenol before rejoining the list ! I expect that within a week or so most of my contacts will have the new address and all will be solved. In the meantime, I'll just make sure that when someone does it to me, I'll use a previous post in the thread to reply-to. By the way, nice try. A little obvious, but nice try! Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 12/6/2003 at 7:55 AM JoeHill wrote: On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 07:43:30 -0500 Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Gang ! After a short hiatus while I dumped a crappy ISP, I'm back and ready to,..um, ...er,.. read emails, answer emails, cause and solve problems, and all the other things I normally do ! Grin! ! Grin ! Miss me? Hah ! Thought not! But things were probably getting too quiet in here anyway ! HHHmmm, think I'll send some emails in HTML! Yeah! And I think it's high time to steal threads, and, and, Oh, the hell with it ! I'm back. Yeah! For starters, could you get rid of the reply-to? http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette ...and as far as Lyvim, that would be *growing down*... ;-) -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ One of the most dangerous errors of our time is the belief that human beings are uniquely violent animals, barely restrained from committing atrocities on each other by the constraints of ethics, religion, and the state.-- Eric S. Raymond Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
On Saturday 06 December 2003 07:55 am, JoeHill wrote: Jo ...and as far as Lyvim, that would be *growing down*... ;-) Jo You're just mad 'cause you lost too many arguments to him! grin -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
LOL! LOL! Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 12/6/2003 at 8:58 AM Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Saturday 06 December 2003 07:55 am, JoeHill wrote: Jo ...and as far as Lyvim, that would be *growing down*... ;-) Jo You're just mad 'cause you lost too many arguments to him! grin -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
Done and Done! Man, you are t funny! I'm putting you into my will ! LOL! Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 12/6/2003 at 9:00 AM Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Saturday 06 December 2003 08:18 am, Lanman wrote: La Hey Lee ! How goes it? Whaddya mean Solve something ? Hell,..I already solved the square root La of PI ! What else do you want? Grin! Oh, yeah, and I also figured out the meaning of Life ! It didn't La take quite as long as PI, but I can now cross that off my list of things to do ! Grin! La La Lanman Quick, slap a patent/copyright/copyleft on it! (Before MS tries!) :-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re:
On Friday 05 December 2003 07:05 pm, Derek Jennings wrote: DJ groklaw has become compulsive reading for me. It is open collaboration DJ at its best. Amen - and did you see the judges ruling? SCO has 30 days to prove up - no extensions! Yipeee! -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Orbit question
and I don't mean around planetary sized objects either... :-) Orbit (CORBA?) software on my 9.2 setup keeps sticking things in /home/darklord/tmp, like the directory Orbit-Darklord. Is this software necessary/advantageous or can I just dump it? I looked for it in the MCC under services but its not listed. chkconfig --list does not show it either. Thanks! -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] urpmi contrib
Hi, Ok I have updating with urpmi under the belt. Kindly some pointers how does contrib figure in this please. Maybe an example of using this please. Thanks Johan -- Johan May this be a good day for learning Registered Linux User #330034 - still learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Asus Motherboards and Mandrake - will it work 100% ?
On Saturday 06 December 2003 02:29 am, Janus Sandsgaard wrote: I am buying a new PC and can choose between these two motherboards: - Asus P4BGL-MX/533 (standard) http://uk.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4bgl-mx-533/overview .htm - Asus P4P800-VM (with AGP) http://uk.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4p800-vm/overview.ht m They are both all-in-one types of motherboards with integrated LAN, audio, graphics etc. Question: - Does anyone have experience with these motherboards running Mandrake? - Do they work 100% with Linux? Asus provides some drivers for Linux, but I gues that is not the same as saying everything (lan, audio etc) will work in real life? I can't find the motherboard in the hardware database at the Mandrake website. -j Neither would make for a multimedia machine, so the decision comes down to their suitability for office type apps, email and surfing for which they should be adequate. So AGP capabilities are sort'a moot. Integrated graphics should be adequate, but remember to pass a mem= append to the kernel, subtracting 8mb for video. Usually Asus recommend ram brands to use, if you can't find this info, Crucial/Micron is always a safe bet for Asus boards. So, then the main difference is that the P4BGL-MX/533 has ATA/133 IDE ports, and the P4P800-VM has SATA, but only ATA/100 IDE ports. I'd suggest avoiding SATA for now, so I think the P4BGL-MX/533 would be more suitable for use with Linux with ATA/133 drive(s). My experience with vendor drivers is that you'll be better off using native Linux kernel drivers to maintain kernel compatibility. Now to qualify, I don't have experience with either of these (or any ITX) boards, and IMO, don't think Intel 8xx chipsets are mature yet, but better than SiS chipset boards for Linux use. I'd be lookin for a VIA chipset solution. I wouldn't be concerned too much with Mdk's hardware database. It's woefully behind and unmaintained. My bet is the graphics, lan and sound will have kernel support, altho you might need to update to newer kernels, even if Mandrake 9.2 is used. But I doubt it, Realtek items are well supported, and to a little lesser extent, so is the i8xx video (XFree drivers). You should'a mentioned if you have existing parts you wanna re-use or if the new system will be built from scratch. Could have alot to do with which board you use. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Epson Stylus C84 Colour Inkjet printer
Anyone had any experience with Epson Stylus C84 Colour Inkjet printer under Mandrake ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Complete failure
On Friday 05 December 2003 08:46 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Seems to be the power supply , so I'm after a new one, hopefully more reliable one, but maybe I'm going to have to think more seriously about surge protectors if they are any good.Either that or buy a spare. John Get an Antec if you can. If not, consult the AMD list for approved manufacturers, even for use with an Intel system. http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_4348^4376,00.html A cheap PSU is false economy. Be aware tho that many ready made systems use proprietary connectors and power requirements, and you're stuck going to them for a replacement PSU. Now why did the old one fail? Well sometimes they do, but many are affected as much or more by insufficient line power as by power spikes. Better PSU's have their own built-in protection. You can check line power easily with a VOhm meter, just stick the leads into the wall outlet you're using during periods when your neighbors are using a lot of power. Another occurance is when something like the A/C, furnace, or the refridgerator kicks in. The fix is to use an UPS. They are not only better at protecting from spikes than surge protectors are, they also protect against 'brownouts'. Providing steady clean power. Consider an UPS as protecting all your hardware, not just the PSU. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Epson Stylus C84 Colour Inkjet printer
On Sat, 2003-12-06 at 09:06, John Richard Smith wrote: Anyone had any experience with Epson Stylus C84 Colour Inkjet printer under Mandrake ? John Can't answer specifically about the C84, but if it helps I'm using the C82 model and it works great. Great print quality using CUPS Gimp-Print and with mtink I'm able to see the ink levels. Maybe trivial, but I like it ;-) -- Cheers, Trey --- Thieves respect property; they merely wish the property to become their property that they may more perfectly respect it. -- G.K. Chesterton, The Man Who Was Thursday signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] Font spacing in kword in M9.1
On Saturday 06 Dec 2003 12:21 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Charlie wrote: I usually adopt helvetica, but it doesn't seem to make any difference. It looks reasonable on screen, I say reasonable,though perhaps still a little close, but in print preview, and actual print off, it is all too close set to be easily readable. I never had this problem before. John You haven't changed any printer settings? I don't have Kword installed, so can't help. I have always used OpenOffice.org. Charlie It seems like I will be joining you with OO if I cannot fix my kword print problem. I have a choice of 4 drivers for my Z53 printers(of which we have 3) and I make a practice of setting up all 4 every time. 3 of these drivers are ghostscript, the 4th is a proprietary(lexmark) , and all 4 each work to a degree, and I don't have any problem with the character spacing with any other app like mozilla for instance, which I use quite often Only kword, and I think kde in general, though I might be wrong there as I haven't test it with the likes of kspread, which I gave up on some time ago as I couldn't solve it's basic problems. I like kword, it has many good features, and the developers have made it more than a word processor, so I want to make it work if I can. If the problem is with the drivers, then I don't see why it is, since other apps can use them without problems, still , even if it is with the drivers, I sure don't know where and what I am supposed to do with it. I mean the driver setting include many options, but nothing I would sort of figure have anything to do with the character spacing. If I am wrong , by all means correct me I want to learn what to do as much as the next man. I'm guessing it's a kde setup problem , but what ? John, you've been using kword and 9.1 for a long time. Is this a new problem? Or have you changed your printer? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Complete failure
On Saturday 06 Dec 2003 12:07 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 06 Dec 2003 1:57 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote: John: It might be a good time to consider a good UPS, too. Agreed - I use one on my box. However, the only ones that do a tidy shutdown, as far as I can see, are the APC ones, and unfortunately they are rather expensive. Anne Yes I know, it's going to have to be a whole bunch of surge protectors on all my computers.I will have to start looking at a deal (I need at least 4), but as for an UPS I just don't come across them here in Emgland, I haven't seen one on display anywhere. The only examples I have found were on foreign websites and way too much cost for me, and in anycase they will not deliver to UK. I think ET asked for a picture of the replacement geforce fan I fitted. Turns out I don't need it as the old temperature controlled fan still works when it gets the correct voltage supplied to it. I could do with nice cheap volt meter that works well with low fortages, but haven't seen one lately. CCL do a range of UPSs, but they don't have the controlled shutdown. Still, I ran for a couple of years on a UPS that had very little battery power left - no shutdown possible, but it certainly helped me keep my system stable. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo start entries
On Saturday 06 December 2003 12:01 pm, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote: Adolfo Bello wrote: I would asume that failsafe is very similar to the Windows Safe Mode but the linux-nonfb meaning escapes me. No framebuffer. Where can i find a discription of this and why I might need to select it as a boot option? Google is your friend, this ought'a do tho, http://www.sunhelp.org/faq/FrameBuffer.html#00 The reason for the no-FB choice is that not all video cards support framebuffer. If you can see the splash screen when you first boot then your card does framebuffers. All nonfb does is the vga=xxx line is removed from this boot option. vga=xxx is what sets the FB resolution. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Font spacing in kword in M9.1
Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 06 Dec 2003 12:21 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: It seems like I will be joining you with OO if I cannot fix my kword print problem. I have a choice of 4 drivers for my Z53 printers(of which we have 3) and I make a practice of setting up all 4 every time. 3 of these drivers are ghostscript, the 4th is a proprietary(lexmark) , and all 4 each work to a degree, and I don't have any problem with the character spacing with any other app like mozilla for instance, which I use quite often Only kword, and I think kde in general, though I might be wrong there as I haven't test it with the likes of kspread, which I gave up on some time ago as I couldn't solve it's basic problems. I like kword, it has many good features, and the developers have made it more than a word processor, so I want to make it work if I can. If the problem is with the drivers, then I don't see why it is, since other apps can use them without problems, still , even if it is with the drivers, I sure don't know where and what I am supposed to do with it. I mean the driver setting include many options, but nothing I would sort of figure have anything to do with the character spacing. If I am wrong , by all means correct me I want to learn what to do as much as the next man. I'm guessing it's a kde setup problem , but what ? John, you've been using kword and 9.1 for a long time. Is this a new problem? Or have you changed your printer? Anne As you know I dual Linux boot, so while the kde printer setup failed in M9.1 I maintained and still have MD9.0 where my existing printer, Lexmark Z53, which hasn not been changed in any way, has worked with all apps flawlessly, as far as character spacing in concerned. Having got the printer to work in MD9.1, I am thinking of wiping M9.0 for MD9.2 install, but if I cannot use kword in MD9.1, then , I have to reconsider my options. It's a pain to switch word processor. It just seems daft that kword cannot print off as usual. I ain't done anything different to my knowledge, though I believe there have been some changes in the kde pre spooling arangements lately, but why should that make a difference anyway ? It leaves me thinking someone has been tampering with my Z53 drivers , but then I don't see why the drivers have much to do with it, it isn't the apps themselves that determin such matters as character and line spacing or am I wrong ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Epson Stylus C84 Colour Inkjet printer
Trey Sizemore wrote: On Sat, 2003-12-06 at 09:06, John Richard Smith wrote: Anyone had any experience with Epson Stylus C84 Colour Inkjet printer under Mandrake ? John Can't answer specifically about the C84, but if it helps I'm using the C82 model and it works great. Great print quality using CUPS Gimp-Print and with mtink I'm able to see the ink levels. Maybe trivial, but I like it ;-) Yes so they tell me, but the C82 ain't much available in UK any more, and the C84 is, so I'm wondering if they are the same and would work with the same driver. Anyway I just thought I would ask. Thanks anyway. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
For starters, could you get rid of the reply-to? http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:23:55 -0500 Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] top posted: That's all well and good that *you* don't see it as a problem, unfortunately it causes headaches on the list, so either remove it or expect some headaches of your own. Not a problem Joe! I stocked up on Tylenol before rejoining the list ! I expect that within a week or so most of my contacts will have the new address and all will be solved. In the meantime, I'll just make sure that when someone does it to me, I'll use a previous post in the thread to reply-to. Wow! Top posting *and* reply-to being set, all in the same email. :) But, in all seriousness, the reply-to screws up people on mailingg lists. If your isp makes you fill it in, is there anyway you could set it to whatever list you are posting to? Otherwise, every time someone replies to a post from you, they will have to remember to reply-all, or to reply-list. Usually, though, they will forget and get frustrated... eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Font spacing in kword in M9.1
On Saturday 06 Dec 2003 3:21 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Having got the printer to work in MD9.1, I am thinking of wiping M9.0 for MD9.2 install, but if I cannot use kword in MD9.1, then , I have to reconsider my options. It's a pain to switch word processor. It just seems daft that kword cannot print off as usual. I ain't done anything different to my knowledge, though I believe there have been some changes in the kde pre spooling arangements lately, but why should that make a difference anyway ? It leaves me thinking someone has been tampering with my Z53 drivers , but then I don't see why the drivers have much to do with it, it isn't the apps themselves that determin such matters as character and line spacing or am I wrong ? John, as you know I also use kword under 9.1. If it is any help in troubleshooting, feel free to mail me a sample document that has given you problems. I'll see whether it prints OK to my printer, a DJ990. If that's so, then it is definitely the printer driver, I would say. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Recording problem with streamer
I cannot record with streamer since I upgraded my mobo and processor. I now have an ASUS A7V8X-X with an Athlon XP 2500+ (runs nice). I have Mandrake 9.2 on it. Here's the problem, I run the following command streamer -f mjpeg -t 120 -s 720x480 -r 29.97 -o movie.avi -F stereo -n ntsc lav2wav +p movie.avi | mp2enc -o audio.mp2 lav2yuv +p movie.avi | mpeg2enc -o video.m1v mplex audio.mp2 video.m1v -o movie.mpg which worked fine on my old mobo and processor. It now starts sound and streamer just stop. It doesn't record, but hangs on this command. I can kill streamer, but sound continues. I have to start xawtv and then stop that to stop the sound. Here's the output that I get when I kill streamer. [EMAIL PROTECTED] video]$ recordavi.sh avi / video: MJPEG (AVI) / audio: 16bit stereo (LE) rate: queueing frame twice (2) ./recordavi.sh: line 2: 14244 Terminated streamer -f mjpeg -t 120 -s 720x480 -r 29.97 -o movie.avi -F stereo -n ntsc INFO: [lav2wav] Norm set to PAL**ERROR: [lav2wav] Error opening movie.avi **ERROR: [mp2enc] EOF in WAV header **ERROR: [mp2enc] failure reading WAV file INFO: [lav2yuv] Norm set to PAL **ERROR: [lav2yuv] Error opening movie.avi **ERROR: [mpeg2enc] Could not read YUV4MPEG2 header: system error (failed read/write)! INFO: [mplex] mplex version 2.2.1 ($Date: 2002/02/04 19:06:14 $)**ERROR: [mplex] Unable to read from file audio.mp2. I've tried other recording methods (vcr among others) and everyone of them seems to get stuck on getting control of the sound device. Sound works fine with xawtv, xmms, everthing but recording. Any ideas? I've spent WAY too much time trying to figure this out. Thanks, Linus Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] k3b
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Saturday 06 December 2003 5:29 am, Paul Kaplan wrote: I'm running 9.2 on a IBM thinkpad T40. k3b doesn't work. When I try to burn an iso image it starts and then chokes with no error messages. Careful inspection of the CDR shows that something has been done by the laser to the innermost 2-3mm, but the disk becomes unuseable. If I try to simulate a burn, k3b returns a buffer underrun error. I've tried reinstalling k3b and the cdrecord package, but to no avail. Any ideas? TIA Paul If you start k3b from a terminal do you see error messages or does it still silently die after making a coaster? What drive are you using with it? Make model etc. how it's connected to the lap top... IIRC someone else was having difficulty with k3b. Posted on the expert list I believe. He got around the problem by using cdrecord from 9.1 I think but I don't recall what the problem was or why that worked. Check the expert list for subject CD burning problems with 9.2. There's a whole thread there. Hell I'll even do it for you. g http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-expertm=106988726318759w=2 should take you right to it. I hope. (-: Good luck. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21mdk 09:30:26 up 2 days, 12:39, 1 user, load average: 0.16, 0.03, 0.05 Every successful person has had failures but repeated failure is no guarantee of eventual success. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/0geSZqvqlrLPr5YRAm96AJ9exUE3KvZF0cx2cPVMU2FEB0B82wCeJ49w yRUdbUIiV/dojTopSnls+gM= =M+a4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Complete failure
Anne Wilson wrote: http://www.cclcomputers.biz/acatalog/ They range from *300W ATX TUV Power Supply* Ref: PSU0001 **Online Price £14.38*£16.90 Including VAT at 17.5%* To, *Liebert 2.2Kva Powersure Interactive Mini Tower* Ref: UPS0006 World Class Power Protection And Communications For Business Networks **Online Price £387.75*£455.61 Including VAT at 17.5% Now I wonder what I would need for my requirements ? John* -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Saturday 06 December 2003 5:43 am, Lanman wrote: Well Gang ! After a short hiatus while I dumped a crappy ISP, I'm back and ready to,..um, ...er,.. read emails, answer emails, cause and solve problems, and all the other things I normally do ! Grin! ! Grin ! Miss me? Hah ! Thought not! But things were probably getting too quiet in here anyway ! HHHmmm, think I'll send some emails in HTML! Yeah! And I think it's high time to steal threads, and, and, Oh, the hell with it ! I'm back. Yeah! Welcome back, and yeah; I did miss ya! Lanman ( When I grow up, I wanna be just like Lyvim! But I'm not in a hurry! ) Careful what you wish for Lanman, you just might get it. EG Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21mdk 09:45:36 up 2 days, 12:54, 1 user, load average: 0.58, 0.20, 0.10 Truth never comes into the world but like a bastard, to the ignominy of him that brought her birth. -- Milton -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/0gj5ZqvqlrLPr5YRApB/AJ41DslpiMbriwDzY5q9ipBDpWwKQgCeJd7n /O9JIxZF8Yt4OW/keY03gA0= =mFm8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Epson Stylus C84 Colour Inkjet printer
On Saturday 06 December 2003 08:06 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Anyone had any experience with Epson Stylus C84 Colour Inkjet printer under Mandrake ? John John, look here, it says it works mostly. HTH http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_C84 -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Setting the Time
12/06/03 What program can I use to go to an atomic clock website and have my computer clock set? Also, would I have to be logged in as 'root' to change the computer's clock? In Windows I used the TARDIS program to modem to a site and have the computer's clock set. Suggestions for a comparable program in Linux? Thanks All, The Other Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:26:48 -0800 Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, in all seriousness, the reply-to screws up people on mailingg lists. If your isp makes you fill it in, is there anyway you could set it to whatever list you are posting to? I just communicated with another IStop user, there is no such requirement, and they've never encountered anything like what lanman is referring to. -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ Where the state begins, individual liberty ceases, and vice versa. -- Bakunin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Epson Stylus C84 Colour Inkjet printer
Dennis Myers wrote: On Saturday 06 December 2003 08:06 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Anyone had any experience with Epson Stylus C84 Colour Inkjet printer under Mandrake ? John John, look here, it says it works mostly. HTH http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_C84 I see what you mean, Like the Epson Stylus C82, but faster. C83 and C84 are the same, C83 is the name for the European and C84 for the US market. These printers are also capable of full-bleed (borderless) printing. With GIMP-Print 4.2.2 or newer it will work (except full-bleed) when choosing the Epson Stylus C82 as printer model, with older GIMP-Print versions when choosing the C80 as printer model. This printer cannot be tested by sending plain text to it, as the printer may or may not respond to the text. The recommended way to test the connection is by checking the ink level with the escputil command as follows: Does that mean no plain text , like in newbie list , plain text, will not work ? User Notes [Edit User Notes] http://www.linuxprinting.org/edit.cgi?id=printer:Epson-Stylus_C84 [Wikish History] http://www.linuxprinting.org/wikish-history.cgi?id=printer:Epson-Stylus_C84scale=31 Printer does not support PJL. What's PLJ ? Driver Information No driver info!? In other wordsIffy John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Setting the Time
On Saturday 06 December 2003 05:10 pm, The Other wrote: 12/06/03 What program can I use to go to an atomic clock website and have my computer clock set? Also, would I have to be logged in as 'root' to change the computer's clock? In Windows I used the TARDIS program to modem to a site and have the computer's clock set. Suggestions for a comparable program in Linux? Thanks All, The Other from the CLI as root urpmi rdate rdate -s time.nist.gov hwclock --systohc that being as long as your hardware clock is GMT Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Setting the Time
On Saturday 06 Dec 2003 5:10 pm, The Other wrote: 12/06/03 What program can I use to go to an atomic clock website and have my computer clock set? Also, would I have to be logged in as 'root' to change the computer's clock? In Windows I used the TARDIS program to modem to a site and have the computer's clock set. Suggestions for a comparable program in Linux? Thanks All, The Other Install the ntp RPM and then edit /etc/ntp.conf to point to one or more time servers. For example :- server ntp2a.mcc.ac.uk# Manchester University server salmon.maths.tcd.ie # Trinity College Dublin Also edit /etc/ntp/step-tickers to contain your time servers as in :- ntp2a.mcc.ac.uk salmon.maths.tcd.ie Putting servers in step-tickers will sync your computer when it boots. Putting the server names in ntp.conf will cause a daemon to run to keep the clock continuously in sync. If you are not concerned about absolute accuracy you do not need the entries in ntp.conf. You can get a list of ntp servers from here :- http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/servers.html Warning - There is a wizard in Mandrake Control Centre to set up an ntp server (if you install drakwizard rpm), but it has a bug in it in 9.2 and will fsck up your timezone. (The developers are aware) derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Sound Problems on 9.2 Install
Hi Y'all, Finally plucked up the courage to install 9.2 this afternoon, and already I'm regretting it. The sound is next to useless being extremely quiet, poor quality and almost drowned out by hiss. I've checked the mixer settings and it is set to full volume and not muted. My sound card is CM8738 PCI card using the driver module snd-cmipci. (Using the cmipci module doesn't help) I hope you kind and knowledgeable people can point me in the direction of a solution, otherwise it's back to 9.0 for me. -- Graham Watkins On the whole, I preferred cats to women because cats seldom if ever used the word relationship.(Kinky Friedman - Greenwich Killing Time) Registered Linux user number 265254 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sound Problems on 9.2 Install
On Saturday 06 Dec 2003 6:10 pm, Graham Watkins wrote: Hi Y'all, Finally plucked up the courage to install 9.2 this afternoon, and already I'm regretting it. The sound is next to useless being extremely quiet, poor quality and almost drowned out by hiss. I've checked the mixer settings and it is set to full volume and not muted. My sound card is CM8738 PCI card using the driver module snd-cmipci. (Using the cmipci module doesn't help) I hope you kind and knowledgeable people can point me in the direction of a solution, otherwise it's back to 9.0 for me. Two solutions 1/ Mandrake Control CentreHardwareHarddrake select your sound card and press the button to select the alternate driver. This will install the oss driver which has fewer features than the alsa driver but may sound better than what you have now. 2/ Tune your alsa driver correctly Install the alsa-utils RPM and then make a backup copy of your /etc/modules.conf file. Then run alsaconf in a root terminal. Alsaconf will write the correct configuration for your card into /etc/modules.conf but will not copy over the lines which are not sound related from your old config. You must do that yourself afterwards. Alsaconf IMO does a much better job of setting up alsa drivers than Mandrake does. HTH derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] contrib site
Hi, Anybody care to provide a good contrib site please. Thanks -- Johan May this be a good day for learning Registered Linux User #330034 - still learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Epson Stylus C84 Colour Inkjet printer
On Saturday 06 Dec 2003 4:22 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: This printer cannot be tested by sending plain text to it, as the printer may or may not respond to the text. The recommended way to test the connection is by checking the ink level with the escputil command as follows: Does that mean no plain text , like in newbie list , plain text, will not work ? Yes, but that isn't a problem these days. 99.9% of your output is going to be via ghostscript- using the printer in graphics mode. Even printing newbie emails. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
Whoa... your doing homework... 'some' people are really anal about the reply-to settings. Deal, I look before I post so should you ;) If the guy says he can't do it, HE CAN'T DO IT stop harrasing the poor man. JoeHill wrote: On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:26:48 -0800 Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, in all seriousness, the reply-to screws up people on mailingg lists. If your isp makes you fill it in, is there anyway you could set it to whatever list you are posting to? I just communicated with another IStop user, there is no such requirement, and they've never encountered anything like what lanman is referring to. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] k3b
On Saturday 06 December 2003 11:45 am, Charlie Mahan wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Saturday 06 December 2003 5:29 am, Paul Kaplan wrote: I'm running 9.2 on a IBM thinkpad T40. k3b doesn't work. When I try to burn an iso image it starts and then chokes with no error messages. Careful inspection of the CDR shows that something has been done by the laser to the innermost 2-3mm, but the disk becomes unuseable. If I try to simulate a burn, k3b returns a buffer underrun error. I've tried reinstalling k3b and the cdrecord package, but to no avail. Any ideas? TIA Paul If you start k3b from a terminal do you see error messages or does it still silently die after making a coaster? I'll have to try. I'm on another machine now. What drive are you using with it? Make model etc. how it's connected to the lap top... Matsuchita, don't have the model. It's the std IBM config. In fact all worked well under M9.1. Interestingly hardrake is convinced I have 7 cdwriters attached at /dev/scsi/lun0/part0 to 7 all mounted at /dev/cdwriter or some such strange listing. (what happened to /dev/hdb used in 9.1?) IIRC someone else was having difficulty with k3b. Posted on the expert list I believe. He got around the problem by using cdrecord from 9.1 I think but I don't recall what the problem was or why that worked. Check the expert list for subject CD burning problems with 9.2. There's a whole thread there. Hell I'll even do it for you. g http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-expertm=106988726318759w=2 should take you right to it. I hope. (-: I'll check it out on Monday. Good luck. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21mdk 09:30:26 up 2 days, 12:39, 1 user, load average: 0.16, 0.03, 0.05 Every successful person has had failures but repeated failure is no guarantee of eventual success. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/0geSZqvqlrLPr5YRAm96AJ9exUE3KvZF0cx2cPVMU2FEB0B82wCeJ49w yRUdbUIiV/dojTopSnls+gM= =M+a4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] contrib site
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Saturday 06 December 2003 11:38 am, Johan wrote: Hi, Anybody care to provide a good contrib site please. Thanks All of the required information has been posted numerous times and in almost every week/month/year since these lists were started. A goo d archive can be found at: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-newbier=1w=2 for the newbie list. Suggestions below. Go to the Easy URPMI site and set one up by following the instructions _except_ don't use the remove media command. Just set it for a contrib mirror for your version and pick one close at hand for yourself. http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/ or you could just copy and paste this into a terminal as super user, but you won't learn anything from easy answers will you? The command: urpmi.addmedia contrib ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.2/contrib/i586 with ../../i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz is one good example. There are lots of good answers depending on your location, bandwidth, the time of day, etc. You could follow the pattern found in that command and go to the Mandrake download page http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ftp.php3#586 to get an idea what servers are available and where they are located. The one in the example shown is in Spain. HTH Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21mdk 11:58:17 up 2 days, 15:07, 1 user, load average: 0.04, 0.05, 0.12 When some people decide it's time for everyone to make big changes, it means that they want you to change first. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/0inVZqvqlrLPr5YRAhf+AJ4188LS2FsJ6anUrjCRnU4AjwB7FQCeIox4 HEd2NG9YmQymGEVNe3Nt8I4= =t5zp -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sound Problems on 9.2 Install
On Saturday 06 December 2003 06:10 pm, Graham Watkins wrote: Hi Y'all, Finally plucked up the courage to install 9.2 this afternoon, and already I'm regretting it. The sound is next to useless being extremely quiet, poor quality and almost drowned out by hiss. I've checked the mixer settings and it is set to full volume and not muted. My sound card is CM8738 PCI card using the driver module snd-cmipci. (Using the cmipci module doesn't help) I hope you kind and knowledgeable people can point me in the direction of a solution, otherwise it's back to 9.0 for me. I've seen Derek's reponse an you might try his suggestions. But first see if 'aumix' is installed. rpm -qa | grep -i aumix I fixed a fresh 9.2 install simply by installing aumix (it wasn't installed by default) and then running it as root to set all sliders to 100%. Don't forget to save before you exit aumix. You should'a mentioned what WM you're using. If it's KDE, you can use kmix after doin the aumix deal above, to adjust sound levels as user. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Resetting media sources to the original ISO's mdk9.2
How would one go about setting up the urpmi sources as that of what was originally offered through the mandrake ISO's, you see, I'm having issues with the Easy URPM site, and of course after little reading I blasted the original media that I had on my distro. By typing in the wonderful urpmi.removemedia -a However, now when I try to 'addmedia' it tells me that 'it cannot update medium 'whicheveroneIwastryingtoupdate' Regards, Brandon Erik Bertelsen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Complete failure
On Saturday 06 December 2003 10:48 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: http://www.cclcomputers.biz/acatalog/ They range from *300W ATX TUV Power Supply* Ref: PSU0001 **Online Price £14.38*£16.90 Including VAT at 17.5%* To, *Liebert 2.2Kva Powersure Interactive Mini Tower* Ref: UPS0006 World Class Power Protection And Communications For Business Networks **Online Price £387.75*£455.61 Including VAT at 17.5% Now I wonder what I would need for my requirements ? John* John: Neither one. The first one is just a PSU; the second one is probably way too big for your needs. (But then, I don't know what your needs are, do I?) That puppy should be able to back up five or six workstations without breaking a sweat. I went through this exercise last year, and ended up with a 525 VA Belkin. I would have preferred an APC, as they work right out of the box with Linux, but the Belkin did a better job of matching up with some hardware constraints that I had. IIRC, it cost about $135. It has sufficient reserve to keep my system up for something like ten minutes -- adequate to do finish up whatever I'm doing and shut down. A couple of things to look for: Either USB or serial feedback -- this will allow you to monitor the state of the batteries (hence the need for Linux support), separate ports for such non-essential devices as speakers and printers (these will have surge protection, but not power backup), and, if you have a modem, a protected telephone line. I went to the liebert site (http://www.liebert-hiross.com/), and found some appropriate units clicking down through UPS == workstations. What I didn't find on their site was any help on sizing and selection. APC has some very good information at their site, although they may try to sell you more capacity than you may need. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] contrib site
Hi Charlie, True...but thanks for your time and the info provided. -- Johan May this be a good day for learning Registered Linux User #330034 - still learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Epson Stylus C84 Colour Inkjet printer
Richard Urwin wrote: On Saturday 06 Dec 2003 4:22 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: This printer cannot be tested by sending plain text to it, as the printer may or may not respond to the text. The recommended way to test the connection is by checking the ink level with the escputil command as follows: Does that mean no plain text , like in newbie list , plain text, will not work ? Yes, but that isn't a problem these days. 99.9% of your output is going to be via ghostscript- using the printer in graphics mode. Even printing newbie emails. I understand you now. Thanks. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Complete failure
On Saturday 06 Dec 2003 3:48 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: http://www.cclcomputers.biz/acatalog/ They range from *300W ATX TUV Power Supply* Ref: PSU0001 **Online Price £14.38*£16.90 Including VAT at 17.5%* To, *Liebert 2.2Kva Powersure Interactive Mini Tower* Ref: UPS0006 World Class Power Protection And Communications For Business Networks **Online Price £387.75*£455.61 Including VAT at 17.5% Now I wonder what I would need for my requirements ? It depends how much you want to protect. (The first one you mentioned was a psu, of course, not a ups g). I have a 700 on this system, but I used to have a 400 and it managed the system box and monitor without problems - and that's probably all you need. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Asus Motherboards and Mandrake - will it work 100% ?
On Saturday 06 December 2003 09:47, Tom Brinkman wrote: Neither would make for a multimedia machine, so the decision comes down to their suitability for office type apps, email and surfing for which they should be adequate. So AGP capabilities are sort'a moot. Integrated graphics should be adequate, but remember to pass a mem= append to the kernel, subtracting 8mb for video. I will start with the integrated graphics, but plan to buy a decicated graphic card later. This is just to get started with. First of all I will just be foing Office work. Later I get bigger needs and wants. So, then the main difference is that the P4BGL-MX/533 has ATA/133 IDE ports, and the P4P800-VM has SATA, but only ATA/100 IDE ports. I'd suggest avoiding SATA for now, so I think the P4BGL-MX/533 would be more suitable for use with Linux with ATA/133 drive(s). What is SATA? You should'a mentioned if you have existing parts you wanna re-use or if the new system will be built from scratch. Could have alot to do with which board you use. I am planning on buying this machine: http://proconsult.dk/katalog/m_pc/s_pc-office/pc-office3/pc-office-p4-2k6.html - Intel Pentium 4, 2.66 GHz med 512 KB cache - ASUS P4BGL-MX/533 motherboard med i845GL chipset - 512 MB PC3200 DDR RAM (400 MHz) - Seagate Barracuda 7200.7, 120 GB, 7200 rpm, 683 Mbit/sec, 8.5 ms - Intel Extreme Graphics - 10/100 Mbit Fast Ethernet - Lite-On Combo DVD/CD-RW But as said: I am not sure about the motherboard. The most important thing for me is that it work 100%. If a Motherboard without integrated graphic, sound and lan can be bough at a similar price, I will find a solution for LAN, graphic, sound etc. Either by buying cheap parts of use some of the parts I have around. Sound and LAN is no problem. I have theese motherboards to choose from: http://proconsult.dk/katalog/m_komp/s_komp-mb/ -j -- Spiren er landet! http://spiren.janus.dk Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
Well it's nice to know that some things haven't changed in the short time I've been away. There's a whole bunch of great people on this list, and then there's Joe Hill. There's a bunch of people who know what they're talking about, and then there's Joe Hill. There a LOT of people who know something about email and how it works, and then there's Joe Hill. Are we seeing a pattern here? So, to make this easy on Joe, who has obviously become the List Nazi of the day, I will explain. Istop uses 2 sets of email accounts. the usual one is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and for a lot of users, it's probably just great. However, if you attempt to send an email to someone on a domain that has been blacklisted, or whose account, or the Class A or Class B subnet they belong to has a reputation for sending SPAM, Istop has another bunch of email accounts. These other accounts are Aliases ( as in not real, Joe ) and use an aliased domain [EMAIL PROTECTED] This allows users to set a Reply-To address which will by pass the Anti-Spam system at Istop. Since I have about 250 clients who rely on me to stay in contact with them, this was a priority for me, at least until my DNS server settings were updated with the new static IP address that I rely on for business. So whether or not you like it, that's the way it had to be Joe. No offense to anyone else on the list, but my responsibility to my clients comes first, and so does making a living. If you can't stand it Joe, Too Bad. You seem to have about as much understanding and compassion as the stuff I leave in the toilet bowl. So, you managed to contact someone who doesn't have my problem? Yippee for them Joe! But ask yourself a question. Is this person located in Toronto or Ottawa? Istop uses two completely different set of servers for the two cities. Since I'm in Montreal, my account is on the Ottawa servers. Could be that there's a different set up in the two cities, or your friend hasn't sent emails to anyone inside a blacklist zone. Hopefully, some of this will sink in Joe. But I'm done being patient with you. I'll be in Toronto in a few weeks for some business, and I'd be tickled pink to run into you in a dark alley ! Enough of your whining and complaining! Either fish or cut bait, OK? Let's cut to the chase and end this bullshit you seem to like to propogate. I'm fed up with your crap Joe. The next time you challenge me, you'd better be ready to dance BITCH! For your sake your name and number better not be in the phone book Pal. Once again you made a bad choice. I don't sit around the house dreaming this shit up. But I wish I had kept the email I received from Istop so I could forward it to you and shove it down your throat. In case the handle didn't give it away, I do networks. I've done networks. Hundreds of them. I know what's what, and I obviously know a hell of a lot more than you do when it comes to this kind of situation. When an email server responds to me and tells me what I can't do and what workarounds there are, I tend to believe it. When the ISP confirms it, I tend to go along and cooperate. But you'll notice that this was not a permanent condition, as I had mentioned in my email, and that it was short term at the worst. So, while I understand that it's a nuisance, and while I've never done it before in all the years I've belonged to this list ( under one handle or another ), and while I certainly appreciate the reasons why it could be annoying to the list members, I also notice that, once agin, it's only Joe Hill who makes an issue, and tries to get the last word in. Give it a rest man. Joe - you're obviously a control freak. Your domain name says it all. www.orderinchaos.org But try to learn the difference between the things you can control, and the things you can't. One the day that someone puts you in charge of the Mandrake email servers ( and I honestly can't see that happening ! ), you can do whatever you want. Until then Give It A Rest. I strongly suggest you double the dosage on the Valium or Quaaludes or whatever you're on, but mellow out OK? I apologise to all the other list members for my rant, but I've had enough of this asshole coming across like he's Holier Than Thou and convinced he's got to prove everyone else wrong no matter what! Enough ! Get a life, get a wife, get a dog, but get one soon! I was hoping that things would improve while I was away. I see they haven't ! Is it any wonder why Linux isn't as popular as it should be? Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 12/6/2003 at 4:56 PM JoeHill wrote: and then when someone says they can't post in anything but HTML, or can't set their mailer to wrap under 80 columns, with some half-baked excuse, we'll just forget about the guidelines we're all supposed to follow, and make exceptions for everybody. u, nope. the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few...or the one. and in this case, there is no need. -- JoeHill ++ ICQ #
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
Hey Eric; Thanks for the suggestions, instead of trying to disprove what's what. I honestly hadn't thought of that. Seems I was Pre-Occupied with the Joe-man! I'm only waiting for my new static IP to be propogated to the main DNS servers, and I think it's almost there. I'll remove the Reply-To for the rest of the weekend, and see how it goes. Thanks for making a suggestion in a positive manner. Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 12/6/2003 at 8:26 AM Eric Huff wrote: Wow! Top posting *and* reply-to being set, all in the same email. But, in all seriousness, the reply-to screws up people on mailingg lists. If your isp makes you fill it in, is there anyway you could set it to whatever list you are posting to? Otherwise, every time someone replies to a post from you, they will have to remember to reply-all, or to reply-list. Usually, though, they will forget and get frustrated... eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
Hey Carroll; Once again a list member comes thru with an idea, instead of trying to debase someone. Good idea. I'll certainly take it under advisement! Thanks Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 12/6/2003 at 7:19 PM Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Saturday 06 December 2003 01:54 pm, Brandon Erik Bertelsen wrote: Whoa... your doing homework... 'some' people are really anal about the reply-to settings. Deal, I look before I post so should you ;) If the guy says he can't do it, HE CAN'T DO IT stop harrasing the poor man. Users of KMail can avoid this aggravation by taking advantage of its Reply to List feature that ignores improper Reply To settings. It can be accessed two ways: 1. Press the letter L. 2. Add an icon to the toolbar by right clicking on the toolbar, select Configure Toolbars and get yet another spiffy icon. Either way, you get a nice properly-addressed window to which you can append your BOTTOM POSTED reply. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
On 12/6/2003 at 7:19 PM Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Saturday 06 December 2003 01:54 pm, Brandon Erik Bertelsen wrote: Whoa... your doing homework... 'some' people are really anal about the reply-to settings. Deal, I look before I post so should you ;) If the guy says he can't do it, HE CAN'T DO IT stop harrasing the poor man. Users of KMail can avoid this aggravation by taking advantage of its Reply to List feature that ignores improper Reply To settings. It can be accessed two ways: 1. Press the letter L. 2. Add an icon to the toolbar by right clicking on the toolbar, select Configure Toolbars and get yet another spiffy icon. Either way, you get a nice properly-addressed window to which you can append your BOTTOM POSTED reply. -- cmg Lanman top-posted: Hey Carroll; Once again a list member comes thru with an idea, instead of trying to debase someone. Good idea. I'll certainly take it under advisement! I hope that includes the part about bottom-posting ;-) Sir Robin -- Certitude is possible for those who only own one encyclopedia. - Robert Anton Wilson Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re:
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Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 07:21:10PM -0500, Lanman wrote: Well it's nice to know that some things haven't changed in the short time I've been away. Yes, you're still as annoying as ever. I plonked you once, but you got a new addy! Z Z Z Z Z Z Z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z *plonk* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] K3B in 9.2
I was having some trouble burning ISOs with K3B in mandrake 9.2 however it used to work fine in 9.1. I decided to uninstall K3B and install the old K3B off the old 9.1 CDs Now when K3B opens I only have the toolbar at the top the rest of the K#B screen where the drag and drop area should be is blank. When I open K3B from console I get the following message [EMAIL PROTECTED] marc]$ k3b mcop warning: user defined signal handler found for SIG_PIPE, overriding kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::initPrivate(): trying to assign a shortcut (Delete) to an unnamed action. Anyone here know how to fix this? TIA Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Resetting media sources to the original ISO's mdk9.2
Worked like a charm thanks! Johan wrote: On Saturday 06 December 2003 21:43, Brandon Erik Bertelsen wrote: How would one go about setting up the urpmi sources as that of what was originally offered through the mandrake ISO's, you see, I'm having issues with the Easy URPM site, and of course after little reading I blasted the original media that I had on my distro. By typing in the wonderful urpmi.removemedia -a However, now when I try to 'addmedia' it tells me that 'it cannot update medium 'whicheveroneIwastryingtoupdate' Regards, Brandon Erik Bertelsen *** If you have removed all your media like in... urpmi.removemedia -a You will find that your installation CD's are missing from the list To re-add your cd sources do:. Put CD1 in the drive and in root terminal type: urpmi.addmedia --distrib cdrom removable://mnt/cdrom Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KWord Spelling
On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:45 pm, many eyes noted that John Richard Smith wrote: Keith Powell wrote: Hello Charlie. Sorry, but your suggestion does not work. KWord ignores the Control Center/Components/Spell Checker settings, and just starts each time with the English Dictionary, US-ASCII Encoding, and International Ispell Client. Even if I change the spelling settings in KWord, it just crashes when I try to spell check. I have uninstalled KOffice and reinstalled it, but the problem is the same. Cheers Keith Is that KDE CC - Components - Spell Checker snip* there is also something called, kde-i18-en_GB-3.1.3-1mdk I guess there is something similar for your required language John That's a good thought John There might be something specific required for Kword assuming that the spell checker works in all other apps? I certainly can't think of anything else. Charlie -- Questions are the magic carpet upon which to ride to the land of knowledge. anon This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.1, Kmail v1.5 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KWord Spelling
On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:06 pm, many eyes noted that Keith Powell wrote: Hello Charlie. Sorry, but your suggestion does not work. I am the one that is sorry Keith, because I know how frustrating something not working can be. I also can't think of anything more that might work at the moment. Charlie -- Questions are the magic carpet upon which to ride to the land of knowledge. anon This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.1, Kmail v1.5 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Missing Screensavers
Patrick Coffey wrote: Hello, I just installed a fresh copy Mandrake 9.2 with KDE, when I go to Configure Desktop and go under screensavers there are none listed. I've installed just about every KDE rpm I could find and I couldn't find a solution that worked in the archives. Does anybody have an idea? --Pat _ Take advantage of our best MSN Dial-up offer of the year six months @$9.95/month. Sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com When you update, they show up. It worked for me :). It's in the Mandrake Control Center... -- Software Packages ( or something like that ) --- Update Packages ( or something like that ) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Bad Week for SCO
http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/12/05/2136248 Best quote from Linus: If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution. -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ He who controls others may be powerful, but he who has mastered himself is mightier still.-- Lao Tsu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
Welcome back Lanman! And a hearty Merry Christmas to you! So good to see you back on the lists. I do a scan from time to time to see what's going on, even if RL keeps me away alot here recently. This is one of those times. :) Your wit and humor is irreplaceable and always entertaining. Glad to see you here and sorry to see that some list Nazi guards have left the concentration camps to cause difficulties. I understand exactly what you are saying, so no prob, don't sweat it. Don't worry about joedill/haywiremac, he's a newb that wants everyone to think he's an old timer, which he's not; he's just some recently-arrived troll that has been looking for a home and has managed to keep his fat mouth shut for a short time, only by way of extreme duress. Don't expect that trend to continue, especially in light of current events on this thread. But, it's Christmas time, and Lanman is back. That means it's a great day! I can't think of a better list Christmas present. Or a funnier one. ;) On Sat, 2003-12-06 at 19:21, Lanman wrote: Well it's nice to know that some things haven't changed in the short time I've been away. There's a whole bunch of great people on this list, and then there's Joe Hill. There's a bunch of people who know what they're talking about, and then there's Joe Hill. There a LOT of people who know something about email and how it works, and then there's Joe Hill. Are we seeing a pattern here? So, to make this easy on Joe, who has obviously become the List Nazi of the day, I will explain. Istop uses 2 sets of email accounts. the usual one is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and for a lot of users, it's probably just great. However, if you attempt to send an email to someone on a domain that has been blacklisted, or whose account, or the Class A or Class B subnet they belong to has a reputation for sending SPAM, Istop has another bunch of email accounts. These other accounts are Aliases ( as in not real, Joe ) and use an aliased domain [EMAIL PROTECTED] This allows users to set a Reply-To address which will by pass the Anti-Spam system at Istop. Since I have about 250 clients who rely on me to stay in contact with them, this was a priority for me, at least until my DNS server settings were updated with the new static IP address that I rely on for business. So whether or not you like it, that's the way it had to be Joe. No offense to anyone else on the list, but my responsibility to my clients comes first, and so does making a living. If you can't stand it Joe, Too Bad. You seem to have about as much understanding and compassion as the stuff I leave in the toilet bowl. So, you managed to contact someone who doesn't have my problem? Yippee for them Joe! But ask yourself a question. Is this person located in Toronto or Ottawa? Istop uses two completely different set of servers for the two cities. Since I'm in Montreal, my account is on the Ottawa servers. Could be that there's a different set up in the two cities, or your friend hasn't sent emails to anyone inside a blacklist zone. Hopefully, some of this will sink in Joe. But I'm done being patient with you. I'll be in Toronto in a few weeks for some business, and I'd be tickled pink to run into you in a dark alley ! Enough of your whining and complaining! Either fish or cut bait, OK? Let's cut to the chase and end this bullshit you seem to like to propogate. I'm fed up with your crap Joe. The next time you challenge me, you'd better be ready to dance BITCH! For your sake your name and number better not be in the phone book Pal. Once again you made a bad choice. I don't sit around the house dreaming this shit up. But I wish I had kept the email I received from Istop so I could forward it to you and shove it down your throat. In case the handle didn't give it away, I do networks. I've done networks. Hundreds of them. I know what's what, and I obviously know a hell of a lot more than you do when it comes to this kind of situation. When an email server responds to me and tells me what I can't do and what workarounds there are, I tend to believe it. When the ISP confirms it, I tend to go along and cooperate. But you'll notice that this was not a permanent condition, as I had mentioned in my email, and that it was short term at the worst. So, while I understand that it's a nuisance, and while I've never done it before in all the years I've belonged to this list ( under one handle or another ), and while I certainly appreciate the reasons why it could be annoying to the list members, I also notice that, once agin, it's only Joe Hill who makes an issue, and tries to get the last word in. Give it a rest man. Joe - you're obviously a control freak. Your domain name says it all. www.orderinchaos.org But try to learn the difference between the things you can control, and the things you can't. One the day that someone puts you in charge of the Mandrake email
Re: [newbie] Bad Week for SCO
On Saturday 06 December 2003 09:47 pm, JoeHill wrote: http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/12/05/2136248 Best quote from Linus: If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution. So Linus sees a connection between Darl and whoring. I'll go along with that. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
On Sat, 2003-12-06 at 13:54, Brandon Erik Bertelsen wrote: Whoa... your doing homework... 'some' people are really anal about the reply-to settings. Deal, I look before I post so should you ;) If the guy says he can't do it, HE CAN'T DO IT stop harrasing the poor man. Exactly. However there is a reason Lanman was targeted in the first place, and it had nothing to do with technical issues, that was merely a trojan horse. LX JoeHill wrote: On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:26:48 -0800 Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, in all seriousness, the reply-to screws up people on mailingg lists. If your isp makes you fill it in, is there anyway you could set it to whatever list you are posting to? I just communicated with another IStop user, there is no such requirement, and they've never encountered anything like what lanman is referring to. LX -- °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk Filter That, Bitch! --Lanman, MDK Newbie List Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
Too bad proper etiquitte couldn't be ' if you don't have any thing positive or helpful to say, DONT SAY ANYTHING' Ignorant responses is the reason I am only a viewer anfd not a participant 99.9 % of the time. :-( Eric Huff said the following, On 06/12/2003 11:26 AM: For starters, could you get rid of the reply-to? http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:23:55 -0500 Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] top posted: That's all well and good that *you* don't see it as a problem, unfortunately it causes headaches on the list, so either remove it or expect some headaches of your own. Not a problem Joe! I stocked up on Tylenol before rejoining the list ! I expect that within a week or so most of my contacts will have the new address and all will be solved. In the meantime, I'll just make sure that when someone does it to me, I'll use a previous post in the thread to reply-to. Wow! Top posting *and* reply-to being set, all in the same email. :) But, in all seriousness, the reply-to screws up people on mailingg lists. If your isp makes you fill it in, is there anyway you could set it to whatever list you are posting to? Otherwise, every time someone replies to a post from you, they will have to remember to reply-all, or to reply-list. Usually, though, they will forget and get frustrated... eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
On 06 Dec 2003 22:59:07 -0500 Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't worry about joedill/haywiremac, he's a newb that wants everyone to think he's an old timer, which he's not; he's just some recently-arrived troll that has been looking for a home and has managed to keep his fat mouth shut for a short time, only by way of extreme duress. So where are Vincent, James, et al, now? I guess it's okay to trash ol' Joe, but not WoBo, no? I guess this is exactly the hypocrisy I was talking about way back when. And you've contributed *what* lately, Lyvim? LOL! -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ There are three side effects of acid: enhanced long-term memory, decreased short-term memory, and I forget the third.-- Timothy Leary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
On 06 Dec 2003 22:59:07 -0500 Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm fed up with your crap Joe. The next time you challenge me, you'd better be ready to dance BITCH! For your sake your name and number better not be in the phone book Pal. Once again you made a bad choice. I don't sit around the house dreaming this shit up. But I wish I had kept the email I received from Istop so I could forward it to you and shove it down your throat. This will be forwarded to the local authorities. You just crossed the line. -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be.-- Lao Tsu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
Big Deal! I'm shaking in my boots! So much for putting your money where your mouth is. Put your control fetish back in the closet, and let's get back to what this list is all about. I'll send you the phone number for the local authorities in a little while, and we'll see where this leads to. I'll put on the coffee, and order up a bunch of whole wheat muffins - they don't eat donuts anymore! Are we done now? Or does this go on like the last time? Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 12/6/2003 at 11:08 PM JoeHill wrote: On 06 Dec 2003 22:59:07 -0500 Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm fed up with your crap Joe. The next time you challenge me, you'd better be ready to dance BITCH! For your sake your name and number better not be in the phone book Pal. Once again you made a bad choice. I don't sit around the house dreaming this shit up. But I wish I had kept the email I received from Istop so I could forward it to you and shove it down your throat. This will be forwarded to the local authorities. You just crossed the line. -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be.-- Lao Tsu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
So if you don't contribute get of of the newsgroup? If this is an elite group, let me know and I'm gone. There is no reason for people respond to messages with 'prick' ish replys. If you don't want to answer somebody's question, don't.. Somebody who is sympathetic to the individual's problem wil probably be very willing to reply. People talk about proper etiquette in list but in my observation, more bandwidth is wasted by too many people jumping in to knock peple down, instead of helping. This is not directed at an individual reponse, but at this and other general threads. JoeHill said the following, On 06/12/2003 11:06 PM: On 06 Dec 2003 22:59:07 -0500 Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't worry about joedill/haywiremac, he's a newb that wants everyone to think he's an old timer, which he's not; he's just some recently-arrived troll that has been looking for a home and has managed to keep his fat mouth shut for a short time, only by way of extreme duress. So where are Vincent, James, et al, now? I guess it's okay to trash ol' Joe, but not WoBo, no? I guess this is exactly the hypocrisy I was talking about way back when. And you've contributed *what* lately, Lyvim? LOL! -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
On Sat, 2003-12-06 at 07:43, Lanman wrote: Well Gang ! After a short hiatus while I dumped a crappy ISP, I'm back and ready to,..um, ...er,.. read emails, answer emails, cause and solve problems, and all the other things I normally do ! Grin! ! Grin ! Miss me? Hah ! Thought not! But things were probably getting too quiet in here anyway ! HHHmmm, think I'll send some emails in HTML! Yeah! And I think it's high time to steal threads, and, and, Oh, the hell with it ! I'm back. Yeah! Lanman ( When I grow up, I wanna be just like Lyvim! But I'm not in a hurry! ) Welcome back, Lanman! Merry Christmas! And needless to say, I'm a big fan of your sig. ;) Watch out tho, it might make you a dartboard. grin! Oh yea, that's right, it already has! But wait a minute...I just remembered...we don't give a sh*te! Good to see your impeccable brand of humor is still in full force! I need to get back here more. Could you add an extra hour to the 24 hour day for me? ;) Take care -- LX -- °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk Filter That, Bitch! --Lanman, MDK Newbie List Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
Bravo Joe, You do what you have to do. I, personnally am sick of people that think thay have the right rto decide what is a good question and what is not. They obviously believe that they know the base knowledge level is, for a person to be able to switch from say, wondows linux. Ther eare a lot of people in the world that don';t work with computers in their day job but do it as a hobby. JoeHill said the following, On 06/12/2003 11:08 PM: On 06 Dec 2003 22:59:07 -0500 Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm fed up with your crap Joe. The next time you challenge me, you'd better be ready to dance BITCH! For your sake your name and number better not be in the phone book Pal. Once again you made a bad choice. I don't sit around the house dreaming this shit up. But I wish I had kept the email I received from Istop so I could forward it to you and shove it down your throat. This will be forwarded to the local authorities. You just crossed the line. -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
Another Canadian on the list eh? Welcome to the fray! Of course, if you've been here a long time already please disregard this emai. But still nice to see another Canuck on board ! Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 12/6/2003 at 11:23 PM KS wrote: So if you don't contribute get of of the newsgroup? If this is an elite group, let me know and I'm gone. There is no reason for people respond to messages with 'prick' ish replys. If you don't want to answer somebody's question, don't.. Somebody who is sympathetic to the individual's problem wil probably be very willing to reply. People talk about proper etiquette in list but in my observation, more bandwidth is wasted by too many people jumping in to knock peple down, instead of helping. This is not directed at an individual reponse, but at this and other general threads. JoeHill said the following, On 06/12/2003 11:06 PM: On 06 Dec 2003 22:59:07 -0500 Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't worry about joedill/haywiremac, he's a newb that wants everyone to think he's an old timer, which he's not; he's just some recently-arrived troll that has been looking for a home and has managed to keep his fat mouth shut for a short time, only by way of extreme duress. So where are Vincent, James, et al, now? I guess it's okay to trash ol' Joe, but not WoBo, no? I guess this is exactly the hypocrisy I was talking about way back when. And you've contributed *what* lately, Lyvim? LOL! --- --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Samba help please?
Hi all, I have MDK 9.1 setup on an old box to link with my XP box. Samba seems to work great as a server...I can browse my home dir from the XP box. But I cannot see any files on the XP box from Linux. I can browse the network. I can find the XP box. I can see the share name ddrive (I know, not very imaginative, but it does the trick..I know what it is.) After opening ddrive there are no files shown. Any ideas what I could be doing wrong??? TIA Shaz Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
Been watching for a few years, but have never been willing to subject myself to a public stoning. I've been checking out Debian and its lists, it seems to be more friendly. Mandrake, while being a good distro has started to turn me off with their actions before I was willing to get a CLUB membership,...too bad. :-( Lanman said the following, On 06/12/2003 11:41 PM: Another Canadian on the list eh? Welcome to the fray! Of course, if you've been here a long time already please disregard this emai. But still nice to see another Canuck on board ! Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 12/6/2003 at 11:23 PM KS wrote: So if you don't contribute get of of the newsgroup? If this is an elite group, let me know and I'm gone. There is no reason for people respond to messages with 'prick' ish replys. If you don't want to answer somebody's question, don't.. Somebody who is sympathetic to the individual's problem wil probably be very willing to reply. People talk about proper etiquette in list but in my observation, more bandwidth is wasted by too many people jumping in to knock peple down, instead of helping. This is not directed at an individual reponse, but at this and other general threads. JoeHill said the following, On 06/12/2003 11:06 PM: On 06 Dec 2003 22:59:07 -0500 Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't worry about joedill/haywiremac, he's a newb that wants everyone to think he's an old timer, which he's not; he's just some recently-arrived troll that has been looking for a home and has managed to keep his fat mouth shut for a short time, only by way of extreme duress. So where are Vincent, James, et al, now? I guess it's okay to trash ol' Joe, but not WoBo, no? I guess this is exactly the hypocrisy I was talking about way back when. And you've contributed *what* lately, Lyvim? LOL! --- --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] gtk debugging libraries
On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 12:59:06 -0800 Dimitar Haralanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still no luck finding anything on this. I would be nice if Mandrake had these libraries somewhere... Any help? glibc-debug -- _||_ Registered linux user #300600 (o_ Registered linux machine # 185855 //\at V_/_ http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
Not to worry KS ! Guys like you and I are always welcome. Well, you are anyways! Grin! No elitists would dare show their mugs on this list for fear of getting flamed by the Roust-abouts and Scallywags like myself, of which I suspect there are quite a few. Still, it is a list of passionate people, I grant you that! Never a dull moment! Kinda like watching The Osborns on TV, ain't it ? Sigh! Well at least we're not getting criticized for spelling and grammar mistakes. Yet ! Give it time though. Someone will have us completing an entrance exam sometime soon. Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 12/6/2003 at 11:23 PM KS wrote: So if you don't contribute get of of the newsgroup? If this is an elite group, let me know and I'm gone. There is no reason for people respond to messages with 'prick' ish replys. If you don't want to answer somebody's question, don't.. Somebody who is sympathetic to the individual's problem wil probably be very willing to reply. People talk about proper etiquette in list but in my observation, more bandwidth is wasted by too many people jumping in to knock peple down, instead of helping. This is not directed at an individual reponse, but at this and other general threads. JoeHill said the following, On 06/12/2003 11:06 PM: On 06 Dec 2003 22:59:07 -0500 Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't worry about joedill/haywiremac, he's a newb that wants everyone to think he's an old timer, which he's not; he's just some recently-arrived troll that has been looking for a home and has managed to keep his fat mouth shut for a short time, only by way of extreme duress. So where are Vincent, James, et al, now? I guess it's okay to trash ol' Joe, but not WoBo, no? I guess this is exactly the hypocrisy I was talking about way back when. And you've contributed *what* lately, Lyvim? LOL! --- --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
On Sat, 2003-12-06 at 23:08, JoeHill wrote: On 06 Dec 2003 22:59:07 -0500 Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm fed up with your crap Joe. The next time you challenge me, you'd better be ready to dance BITCH! For your sake your name and number better not be in the phone book Pal. Once again you made a bad choice. I don't sit around the house dreaming this shit up. But I wish I had kept the email I received from Istop so I could forward it to you and shove it down your throat. This will be forwarded to the local authorities. You just crossed the line. Forwarded to the local authorities? Crossed the line? The only line that has been crossed was crossed by you a long time ago; the one where you revealed yourself as being an incredibly pathetic troll whose sole skill was liberal use of profanity whilest simultaneously insulting long time list members. Your sole respite from the backlash of your ill advised posts was to change your name to HaywireMac in the hope that you might escape the fire. However since your arrogance is undiminished, even in the light of history, you still persist in throwing barbs towards Lanman and myself. Your memory is still short and your arrogance is still astronomical. Unfortunately for you *my* memory is *not* short, and while you are forwarding whatever paper lion crap you have cooked up you might also take time to forward the several hundred messages I have FROM YOU from several months past. I keep a local archive, you see; so I don't even have to hit the web site archives to pull up every single piece of vitreol you have hurled since you joined the lists. Especially interesting were the exchanges with Anne Wilson; my, what a gentleman you are. I find it continually fascinating to contemplate about how little you know about the strength of your own position. I don't see any problem with bundling a nice little package from the local archives with a ribbon and a bow and sending it to Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a stocking stuffer christmas attachment. I'm sure he can find many interesting and entertaining uses to which to put such an innovative christmas present. LX -- °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk Filter That, Bitch! --Lanman, MDK Newbie List Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samba help please?
On 12/7/2003 at 5:51 PM Al Destiny wrote: Hi all, I have MDK 9.1 setup on an old box to link with my XP box. Samba seems to work great as a server...I can browse my home dir from the XP box. But I cannot see any files on the XP box from Linux. I can browse the network. I can find the XP box. I can see the share name ddrive (I know, not very imaginative, but it does the trick..I know what it is.) After opening ddrive there are no files shown. Any ideas what I could be doing wrong??? TIA Shaz *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** Is there a user on the XP box that is identical to the Samba box? This sounds like a permissions issue. Make sure that the new user not only has a password that is common to both boxes, but is also in the same workgroup. Speaking of Samba, has anyone tried Samba 3.0 ? Anything to know in advance about it? Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
Plonk. Plonk. Fizz. Fizz. O! What a relief it is. -- _||_ Registered linux user #300600 (o_ Registered linux machine # 185855 //\at V_/_ http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
On 12/6/2003 at 11:54 PM KS wrote: Been watching for a few years, but have never been willing to subject myself to a public stoning. I've been checking out Debian and its lists, it seems to be more friendly. Mandrake, while being a good distro has started to turn me off with their actions before I was willing to get a CLUB membership,...too bad. :-( Lanman said the following, On 06/12/2003 11:41 PM: Another Canadian on the list eh? Welcome to the fray! Of course, if you've been here a long time already please disregard this emai. But still nice to see another Canuck on board ! Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** Actually, you get used to it after a while. Helps to clear up the bad blood, and you get to practice your dodging techniques ! Grin ! As for Mandrake, I know for a fact that they've been going through a lot of changes in recent years, so try to be patient. They've got to get their house in order before they can improve on customer relations. Not a perfect solution, but they're trying. Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
Cute! Poetic too ! May I suggest that you Plonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well ? It would make your life a lot simpler. Just a thought. Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 12/6/2003 at 10:11 PM Jerry Barton wrote: Plonk. Plonk. Fizz. Fizz. O! What a relief it is. -- _||_ Registered linux user #300600 (o_ Registered linux machine # 185855 //\at V_/_ http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
On 12/7/2003 at 12:01 AM Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Sat, 2003-12-06 at 23:08, JoeHill wrote: On 06 Dec 2003 22:59:07 -0500 Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm fed up with your crap Joe. The next time you challenge me, you'd better be ready to dance BITCH! For your sake your name and number better not be in the phone book Pal. Once again you made a bad choice. I don't sit around the house dreaming this shit up. But I wish I had kept the email I received from Istop so I could forward it to you and shove it down your throat. This will be forwarded to the local authorities. You just crossed the line. Forwarded to the local authorities? Crossed the line? The only line that has been crossed was crossed by you a long time ago; the one where you revealed yourself as being an incredibly pathetic troll whose sole skill was liberal use of profanity whilest simultaneously insulting long time list members. Your sole respite from the backlash of your ill advised posts was to change your name to HaywireMac in the hope that you might escape the fire. However since your arrogance is undiminished, even in the light of history, you still persist in throwing barbs towards Lanman and myself. Your memory is still short and your arrogance is still astronomical. Unfortunately for you *my* memory is *not* short, and while you are forwarding whatever paper lion crap you have cooked up you might also take time to forward the several hundred messages I have FROM YOU from several months past. I keep a local archive, you see; so I don't even have to hit the web site archives to pull up every single piece of vitreol you have hurled since you joined the lists. Especially interesting were the exchanges with Anne Wilson; my, what a gentleman you are. I find it continually fascinating to contemplate about how little you know about the strength of your own position. I don't see any problem with bundling a nice little package from the local archives with a ribbon and a bow and sending it to Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a stocking stuffer christmas attachment. I'm sure he can find many interesting and entertaining uses to which to put such an innovative christmas present. LX °° °° °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk Filter That, Bitch! --Lanman, MDK Newbie List °° °° *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** Lyvim; Sounds like Christmas is coming early this year! Anyway, before this turns into another mess, I'd like to suggest that we just ignore him Lyvim. As fed up as I am, and as much as I'd love to take this guy down a peg or two, you know what? He's not worth it. Don't bother getting your blood pressure up over this guy. There's a reason we're all here, and even though this kind of flaming certainly adds a lot of excitement to the list, it's not what we're here for. I hate to sound like the sane people on the list, but it's probably for the best. Let's get back to the good stuff like World Domination! Flaming Microshaft, or SCO. Whaddya say? Shall we ignore the waste of skin, and get back into the thick of things? The more attention we pay to him, the longer it'll take for him to go away. It's only a thought, but if you want to continue, I'm with you all the way! Speaking of several months ago, what ever happened to Stephen and Frankie ? Are they still around? Be nice to hear from them, don't you think Lyvim ? Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
On Sun, 2003-12-07 at 00:10, Lanman wrote: On 12/6/2003 at 11:54 PM KS wrote: Been watching for a few years, but have never been willing to subject myself to a public stoning. I've been checking out Debian and its lists, it seems to be more friendly. Mandrake, while being a good distro has started to turn me off with their actions before I was willing to get a CLUB membership,...too bad. :-( Lanman said the following, On 06/12/2003 11:41 PM: Another Canadian on the list eh? Welcome to the fray! Of course, if you've been here a long time already please disregard this emai. But still nice to see another Canuck on board ! Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** Actually, you get used to it after a while. Helps to clear up the bad blood, and you get to practice your dodging techniques ! Grin ! As for Mandrake, I know for a fact that they've been going through a lot of changes in recent years, so try to be patient. They've got to get their house in order before they can improve on customer relations. Not a perfect solution, but they're trying. Lanman I agree, Lanman. I have had problems with the decisions that were made with rpmdrake, but I've put those differences aside in view of the whole distro. I think Mandrake is the best desktop solution available for Linux. What's more, Red Hat seems to be sliding out of the desktop picture, wether voluntarily or involuntarily. This gives Mandrake quite a breather for more business; an unusual lucky break. It's about time; Mandrake has needed some kind of lucky break for some time now. I view the events at Red Hat as a prime opportunity for Mandrake to grab customers and new Club members. The problem with Red Hat historically is that they have not been willing to go in the direction of very innovative new business solutions that *embrace* the needs of the desktop users rather than ignore them. Like the Mandrake Club idea by Deno, for instance. That's why I think there has been a loss of market share from Red Hat to Mandrake. MDK employees and developers are responsive and concerned about their users; and it shows. Where Mandrake will possibly go wrong is if they continue to make unilateral elitist decisions concerning their GUI *without* consulting or polling Mandrake club members beforehand. Generally speaking, however, Mandrake is the most user inclusive distribution available today. There is no distro that keeps up with current trends, user needs, or user comments and requests like MDK; they have no peer in this regard. Take a look at SUSE linux, for instance. You cannot even get an ISO download of that distro for free, in order to try it out. At least I could not, from the SUSE website. So before anyone contemplates a move to something else, they should take a hard look at everything else. From what I see, Mandrake has no peers. LX -- °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk Filter That, Bitch! --Lanman, MDK Newbie List Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samba help please?
On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 17:51:28 +1300 Al Destiny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have MDK 9.1 setup on an old box to link with my XP box. Samba seems to work great as a server...I can browse my home dir from the XP box. But I cannot see any files on the XP box from Linux. I can browse the network. I can find the XP box. I can see the share nameddrive (I know, not very imaginative, but it does the trick..I know what it is.) That's the important part :-) After opening ddrive there are no files shown. Any ideas what I could be doing wrong??? Depending on which application you are using to browse the network, you may have to right click and choose scan group as and enter the user/password of a user set up on your windows box. I have found the easiest way is to use LinNeighborhood to mount the shares and browse them that way. In LinNeighborhood right click on the workgroup of your windows box and choose scan group as user. Hope that helps. I used to use komba as well and had to do basically the same thing. You may need to check your user/password permissions and make sure they match between boxen. Jerry. -- _||_ Registered linux user #300600 (o_ Registered linux machine # 185855 //\at V_/_ http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/7/2003 at 12:01 AM Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Sat, 2003-12-06 at 23:08, JoeHill wrote: On 06 Dec 2003 22:59:07 -0500 Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm fed up with your crap Joe. The next time you challenge me, you'd better be ready to dance BITCH! For your sake your name and number better not be in the phone book Pal. Once again you made a bad choice. I don't sit around the house dreaming this shit up. But I wish I had kept the email I received from Istop so I could forward it to you and shove it down your throat. This will be forwarded to the local authorities. You just crossed the line. Forwarded to the local authorities? Crossed the line? The only line that has been crossed was crossed by you a long time ago; the one where you revealed yourself as being an incredibly pathetic troll whose sole skill was liberal use of profanity whilest simultaneously insulting long time list members. Your sole respite from the backlash of your ill advised posts was to change your name to HaywireMac in the hope that you might escape the fire. However since your arrogance is undiminished, even in the light of history, you still persist in throwing barbs towards Lanman and myself. Your memory is still short and your arrogance is still astronomical. Unfortunately for you *my* memory is *not* short, and while you are forwarding whatever paper lion crap you have cooked up you might also take time to forward the several hundred messages I have FROM YOU from several months past. I keep a local archive, you see; so I don't even have to hit the web site archives to pull up every single piece of vitreol you have hurled since you joined the lists. Especially interesting were the exchanges with Anne Wilson; my, what a gentleman you are. I find it continually fascinating to contemplate about how little you know about the strength of your own position. I don't see any problem with bundling a nice little package from the local archives with a ribbon and a bow and sending it to Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a stocking stuffer christmas attachment. I'm sure he can find many interesting and entertaining uses to which to put such an innovative christmas present. LX °° °° °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk Filter That, Bitch! --Lanman, MDK Newbie List °° °° *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** Lyvim; Sounds like Christmas is coming early this year! Anyway, before this turns into another mess, I'd like to suggest that we just ignore him Lyvim. As fed up as I am, and as much as I'd love to take this guy down a peg or two, you know what? He's not worth it. Don't bother getting your blood pressure up over this guy. There's a reason we're all here, and even though this kind of flaming certainly adds a lot of excitement to the list, it's not what we're here for. I hate to sound like the sane people on the list, but it's probably for the best. Let's get back to the good stuff like World Domination! Flaming Microshaft, or SCO. Whaddya say? Shall we ignore the waste of skin, and get back into the thick of things? The more attention we pay to him, the longer it'll take for him to go away. It's only a thought, but if you want to continue, I'm with you all the way! Speaking of several months ago, what ever happened to Stephen and Frankie ? Are they still around? Be nice to hear from them, don't you think Lyvim ? Lanman I have not heard from them for awhile It would be nice to hear from them again I agree with you Lets get back to Linux But your idea of World Domination sounds good too (Grin) Greg -- Linux Mandrake Rules __ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
On Sun, 2003-12-07 at 00:27, Lanman wrote: Lyvim; Sounds like Christmas is coming early this year! Anyway, before this turns into another mess, I'd like to suggest that we just ignore him Lyvim. As fed up as I am, and as much as I'd love to take this guy down a peg or two, you know what? He's not worth it. Don't bother getting your blood pressure up over this guy. There's a reason we're all here, and even though this kind of flaming certainly adds a lot of excitement to the list, it's not what we're here for. I hate to sound like the sane people on the list, but it's probably for the best. Let's get back to the good stuff like World Domination! Flaming Microshaft, or SCO. Whaddya say? Shall we ignore the waste of skin, and get back into the thick of things? The more attention we pay to him, the longer it'll take for him to go away. It's only a thought, but if you want to continue, I'm with you all the way! Speaking of several months ago, what ever happened to Stephen and Frankie ? Are they still around? Be nice to hear from them, don't you think Lyvim ? Lanman Message received, LM! Loud and clear. As far as Stephen, I don't know; I postulated some time back that he was out making money like I have been trying to do; but haven't heard from him in an age. Frankie started the Mandrake-games list, and then sort of vanished. Don't know why that is; hell, I liked it better before he started the Mandrake-games list, he was around more. He could be reworking his net so that he can better handle traffic; I understand that cause that's exactly what I've been doing here in addition to everything else. I've been busy at work on a new firewall and internet connection; running LM92, of course!! (what else? grin) The old guys are probably still around, maybe if we beg enough for Frankie and Stephen, they will all of a sudden magically appear. ;) You might want to check out the Mandrake-OT list if you haven't already; cause there are alot of very nice and interesting people there that are passionate about their beliefs. Stephen and Frankie are subscribed there; many interesting conversations. Warning, however; it can be a timesink and hard to contribute to the lively discussions on a regular basis, especially if you are an entrepreneur. I haven't seen Frankie or Stephen there recently either, tho. (?) LX -- °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk Filter That, Bitch! --Lanman, MDK Newbie List Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
On 12/7/2003 at 12:32 AM Lyvim Xaphir wrote: I agree, Lanman. I have had problems with the decisions that were made with rpmdrake, but I've put those differences aside in view of the whole distro. I think Mandrake is the best desktop solution available for Linux. What's more, Red Hat seems to be sliding out of the desktop picture, wether voluntarily or involuntarily. This gives Mandrake quite a breather for more business; an unusual lucky break. It's about time; Mandrake has needed some kind of lucky break for some time now. I view the events at Red Hat as a prime opportunity for Mandrake to grab customers and new Club members. The problem with Red Hat historically is that they have not been willing to go in the direction of very innovative new business solutions that *embrace* the needs of the desktop users rather than ignore them. Like the Mandrake Club idea by Deno, for instance. That's why I think there has been a loss of market share from Red Hat to Mandrake. MDK employees and developers are responsive and concerned about their users; and it shows. Where Mandrake will possibly go wrong is if they continue to make unilateral elitist decisions concerning their GUI *without* consulting or polling Mandrake club members beforehand. Generally speaking, however, Mandrake is the most user inclusive distribution available today. There is no distro that keeps up with current trends, user needs, or user comments and requests like MDK; they have no peer in this regard. Take a look at SUSE linux, for instance. You cannot even get an ISO download of that distro for free, in order to try it out. At least I could not, from the SUSE website. So before anyone contemplates a move to something else, they should take a hard look at everything else. From what I see, Mandrake has no peers. LX -- °° °° °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk Filter That, Bitch! --Lanman, MDK Newbie List °° °° *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** Almost from the beginning of Mandrake, it has been the premiere distro of Linux ( On a comparitive scale ), for newbie's. Mandrake is the one distro whose business model and mission seems to be to make it easier to migrate from Windows to Linux. I have a much easier time convincing clients to switch to Linux once they see how Mandrake provides tools which make the process of switching to Linux virtually intuitive, if not relatively easy. Something curious to note here ( at least for me ), is that I find that most of my clients are eager to learn when you take the time to teach them a few things, and to explain something in plain English instead of Techno-Babble. This tends to make them more curious about learning about Linux, and about computing in general, and I end up with clients who aren't afraid to ask questions or experiment. Overall, the trust in these business relationships increases with each question. If I was to try to explain Suse or RedHat to a client they'd be climbing the walls in no time. While the nature of Mandrake and it's wizards may still have some bugs to work out, it is most likely the simplest distro to learn, which IMHO gives them a distinct advantage. I think they've done a lot to promote Linux just from this perspective. You're not going to see a lot of new computer users jumping on the Linux bandwagon right from the start, but frustration regarding M$ products and curiousity about Linux will often drive people away from The Dark Side and into the loving arms of Linux, and Mandrake is probably the choice that many will make. In a way, it is a tribute to Mandrake that some Linux users eventually move on to other distro's, since this usually means that they've learned a lot from Mandrake, and are ready for another challenge. In the meantime, Mandrake hasn't deemed to give up, so neither shall I. I firmly believe that once they get their money problems solved, they'll come back to the users and get involved in solving their PR problems as well. Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
One thing that might be interesting is a larger variety of single CD versions of Mandrake built for specific type of installations. For example, a single CD of Mandrake Server with no more than two desktop environments, and the most popular services on it - ie; FTP, Apache, Postfix, Bind, Samba, Webmin, etc. Does anyone remember SNF ? It had a great installer. Start the installer, run through the partitions, set your password for root and admin, and walk away. 15 minutes later it was ready to customize. No desktop, just an ANSI interface, and a highly specialized version of Webmin or something very similar. It was fast, easy to install and function specific. Something like that as a server version would be sweet! I wonder if we could build something like that without pissing off Mandrake? We could build it, test it, and hand it off to Mandrake to polish it up a bit. Call it Mandrake Simple Server or Mandrake SOHO server. Just add PC and serve ! Hmmm! This world domination thing is looking better and better. Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 12/7/2003 at 12:44 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/7/2003 at 12:01 AM Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Sat, 2003-12-06 at 23:08, JoeHill wrote: On 06 Dec 2003 22:59:07 -0500 Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm fed up with your crap Joe. The next time you challenge me, you'd better be ready to dance BITCH! For your sake your name and number better not be in the phone book Pal. Once again you made a bad choice. I don't sit around the house dreaming this shit up. But I wish I had kept the email I received from Istop so I could forward it to you and shove it down your throat. This will be forwarded to the local authorities. You just crossed the line. Forwarded to the local authorities? Crossed the line? The only line that has been crossed was crossed by you a long time ago; the one where you revealed yourself as being an incredibly pathetic troll whose sole skill was liberal use of profanity whilest simultaneously insulting long time list members. Your sole respite from the backlash of your ill advised posts was to change your name to HaywireMac in the hope that you might escape the fire. However since your arrogance is undiminished, even in the light of history, you still persist in throwing barbs towards Lanman and myself. Your memory is still short and your arrogance is still astronomical. Unfortunately for you *my* memory is *not* short, and while you are forwarding whatever paper lion crap you have cooked up you might also take time to forward the several hundred messages I have FROM YOU from several months past. I keep a local archive, you see; so I don't even have to hit the web site archives to pull up every single piece of vitreol you have hurled since you joined the lists. Especially interesting were the exchanges with Anne Wilson; my, what a gentleman you are. I find it continually fascinating to contemplate about how little you know about the strength of your own position. I don't see any problem with bundling a nice little package from the local archives with a ribbon and a bow and sending it to Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a stocking stuffer christmas attachment. I'm sure he can find many interesting and entertaining uses to which to put such an innovative christmas present. LX ° ° ° ° °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk Filter That, Bitch! --Lanman, MDK Newbie List ° ° ° ° *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** Lyvim; Sounds like Christmas is coming early this year! Anyway, before this turns into another mess, I'd like to suggest that we just ignore him Lyvim. As fed up as I am, and as much as I'd love to take this guy down a peg or two, you know what? He's not worth it. Don't bother getting your blood pressure up over this guy. There's a reason we're all here, and even though this kind of flaming certainly adds a lot of excitement to the list, it's not what we're here for. I hate to sound like the sane people on the list, but it's probably for the best. Let's get back to the good stuff like World Domination! Flaming Microshaft, or SCO. Whaddya say? Shall we ignore the waste of skin, and get back into the thick of things? The more attention we pay to him, the longer it'll take for him to go away. It's only a thought, but if you want to continue, I'm with you all the way! Speaking of several months ago, what ever happened to Stephen and Frankie ? Are they still around? Be nice to hear from them, don't you think Lyvim ? Lanman I have not heard from them for awhile It would be nice to hear from them again I agree with you Lets get back to Linux But your idea of World Domination sounds good too (Grin) Greg -- Linux Mandrake Rules __ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network.
[newbie] updatedb
How do I include specific network shares when I update the locate db? I thought they were automagically included if mounted when I updatedb. Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
