Re: [newbie] Automatically mount a USB drive

2004-04-23 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Thu, 2004-04-22 at 07:03, Alexandre Aractingi wrote:
 Le jeu 22/04/2004 à 12:47, Adolfo Bello a écrit :
  Out of curiosity, I just plugged the USB pen and went to a cli without
  clicking the desktop icon. It was automatically mounted.
 
 Argl, that's what I'd like to have!!
 
  This is the line in my fstab.
  
  none /mnt/removable supermount
  dev=/dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/part1,fs=ext2:vfat,--
  
  MDK 10 kernel 2.6.3.8
 
 I use 2.6.3-7, maybe that's related...
 Do you have any additional running dameons that could be related?

I had the same problem until I activated hotplug. I didn't mentioned
anything because I saw you mentioned it in your original post. Is
supermount enabled?

I also have magicedev enabled. However, I read that it only works with
CD drives. Not sure.

Adolfo



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Re: [newbie] Automatically mount a USB drive

2004-04-23 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Thu, 2004-04-22 at 06:47, Adolfo Bello wrote:

In my previous post the /etc/fstab line was wrong.

The line that is created in my /etc/fstab is:

none /mnt/removable supermount
dev=/dev/scsi/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/part1,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,kudzu,codepage=850
 0 0

I just made myself sure that the USB pen is mounted automatically. I
rebooted to runlevel 3, plugged the thing and there it was nicely
mounted.

Adolfo



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[newbie] SoundScheme KDE not sound

2004-04-23 Thread Budhi Astiyadi
Hai, I use Mandrake 10 Community and everything just fine before. But
after several crash (I overclock my machine), sound scheme KDE is not
sound. It just quite. What should I do to fixed it?


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[newbie] Burning CD image question

2004-04-23 Thread Inhabitant of Zion
Hi

Anybody here know of a Linux program that does the same job as Alcohol 120% in Windows 
(i.e. can handle and use *cough cough* .MDF and .MDS file extensions).

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[newbie] PHPGroupware

2004-04-23 Thread Stephen Kuhn
Damn I've RTFM the whole shebang and can't still seem to get
PHPGroupware up and running - and there's such a cryptographic means by
which the dox are written...anyone with a less fuzzy brain that might be
able to lend a hand here ay wot?

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[newbie] Apollon

2004-04-23 Thread Ian Urie
Anyone know if Apollon automatically updates the hosts file...or if it has 
to be done manually?
I've got problems getting connected to Fasttrack and it looks like it is going 
through the hosts list.and failing to get onto any of the servers. 
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RE: [newbie] PHPGroupware

2004-04-23 Thread Tango Echo
-Original Message-
From: Stephen Kuhn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 9:23 AM
To: Mandrake Newbie
Subject: [newbie] PHPGroupware

Damn I've RTFM the whole shebang and can't still seem
to get
PHPGroupware up and running - and there's such a
cryptographic means by
which the dox are written...anyone with a less fuzzy
brain that might be
able to lend a hand here ay wot?

stephen kuhn - owner


Stephen,

I wish I could help you.  But just out of curiosity,
have you researched any other packages such as
OpenGroupware?  OpenGroupware doesn't seem to have as
slick an interface as PHPGW but I believe it can be
customized.  The reason I ask is because I will be
looking to research and/or deploy a Linux based
groupware package at one of my sites...

Thanks,

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Re: [newbie] Are there any AAC(.m4u) plugins for Linux?

2004-04-23 Thread Rory Gleeson
Ogg is difficult to support on digital audio players, since it's such a 
resource hog and a battery drain.  The Xiph foundation really hasn't 
focused on it being a portable format yet, which is hindering adoption on 
the portable player market.

iRiver has had a lot of problems integrating it.  The only player that has 
successfully integrated it is the Rio Karma, which is the only player that 
has also integrated Ogg gapless playback.

If you have an iPod, I would suggest ripping in MP3 LAME rather than AAC, 
as it's more versatile and you won't be locked in to Apple hardware.  The 
reason that iTunes is likely ripping so quickly as it's not taking its time 
to properly encode.

Try ripping in MP3 LAME 3.95 (anything after 3.90 supports gapless in 
MP3).  The Standard setting is a good one.  Tracks are around 200 bits and 
sound great.  It will take a long time to rip in LAME but it's worth 
it.  It's taking its time which means fewer artifacts.

For those who pick products based on politics and philosophy, AAC, WMA and 
MP3 will never suit you.  But, WMA and AAC are actually good sounding 
codecs and it would be a rare occasion if someone could tell the difference 
between them and Ogg at circa 200bits.   The problem with WMA and AAC is 
they lock you in (Steven Jobs and Bill Gates just can't seem to find a new 
song to sing after all these years), which is why I avoid them.

Rory



At 11:51 PM 22/04/2004, you wrote:
On Thursday 22 April 2004 11:44 pm, Marc Resnick wrote:
 Yes Greg, after selling some of my old games and running around looking for
 spare change, I did manage to buy a 10gig 3g like new iPod off of ebay =).
I let the coolness factor tempt me for about 10 seconds before I opted for my
iriver.  No matter how cool a product, I am really having a hard time lately
accepting anything that includes an attempt at proprietary lockin.  This has
nothing to do with open source or GPL philosophy, just open standards.
 Hopefully in future firmware updates, Ogg Vorbis will be supported.

Don't hold your breath :-o
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[newbie] Laptop

2004-04-23 Thread Marco Terzuoli
Hi,
I am due to buy a laptop computer, but I know that linux mandrake (and
probably other distros as well) have problems working on certain laptops.
Do you have any suggestion about which model I should buy?
Thanks,
Marco



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Re: [newbie] Laptop

2004-04-23 Thread PM
On Fri, 2004-04-23 at 17:36, Marco Terzuoli wrote:
 Hi,
 I am due to buy a laptop computer, but I know that linux mandrake (and
 probably other distros as well) have problems working on certain laptops.
 Do you have any suggestion about which model I should buy?
 Thanks,
 Marco
 
 

You might want to check out these sites for
advice/recommendations/howtos, etc.

http://www.linux-laptop.net/
http://www.tuxmobil.org/howtos.html


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Re: [newbie] Laptop

2004-04-23 Thread frankieh
PM wrote:

On Fri, 2004-04-23 at 17:36, Marco Terzuoli wrote:

Hi,
I am due to buy a laptop computer, but I know that linux mandrake (and
probably other distros as well) have problems working on certain laptops.
Do you have any suggestion about which model I should buy?
Thanks,
Marco

I have a Dell Inspiron 5150, its cheap, fast, has an inbuilt 64MB 
Geforce FX5200, a 1600x1200 display, a 60gig hard disk and a DVD burner..

Runs mandrake perfectly.

I even got the wireless 802.11g truemobile 1300 wireless card working 
flawlessly with ndiswrapper..

With the exception that I would really love a ATI 9700 in it, I am very 
happy which this machine.
Dell now has an Inspiron 9100 that is selling for the same price I paid 
for my 5150, its better in nearly every way. (except size.)

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Re: [newbie] Are there any AAC(.m4u) plugins for Linux?

2004-04-23 Thread Stephen Reynolds
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 03:44 am, Rory Gleeson wrote:
 If you have an iPod, I would suggest ripping in MP3 LAME rather than AAC,

I own an iPod and I use MP3's ripped to alt--preset-standard. Probably the 
best ripper is EAC http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/ which is free, but sadly not 
available for linux. By default I think EAC rips in secure mode which can be 
very slow. Select fast mode and EAC rips as fast as any ripper.

 as it's more versatile and you won't be locked in to Apple hardware.  The

Agreed, it's easy to find a DVD, CD, car stereo player or personal stereo 
player that supports MP3. Almost every player that supports compressed audio 
codecs supports MP3.

 reason that iTunes is likely ripping so quickly as it's not taking its time
 to properly encode.

iTunes can also rip in secure mode, which naturally slows it down, but secure 
mode is not the default. It is possible to get very high quality rips with 
iTunes.

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Re: [newbie] Are there any AAC(.m4u) plugins for Linux?

2004-04-23 Thread Greg Meyer
On Friday 23 April 2004 04:03 am, Stephen Reynolds wrote:
 On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 23:36:20 -0400, Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 said:
  Why would you do that?  Ogg is way better and is fully supported under
  Linux.  

 Ogg is NOT way better than any moder codec.

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Re: [newbie] Laptop

2004-04-23 Thread Kevin Ferguson
frankieh wrote:

PM wrote:

On Fri, 2004-04-23 at 17:36, Marco Terzuoli wrote:

Hi,
I am due to buy a laptop computer, but I know that linux mandrake (and
probably other distros as well) have problems working on certain 
laptops.
Do you have any suggestion about which model I should buy?
Thanks,
Marco


I have a Dell Inspiron 5150, its cheap, fast, has an inbuilt 64MB 
Geforce FX5200, a 1600x1200 display, a 60gig hard disk and a DVD burner..

Runs mandrake perfectly.

I even got the wireless 802.11g truemobile 1300 wireless card working 
flawlessly with ndiswrapper..

With the exception that I would really love a ATI 9700 in it, I am 
very happy which this machine.
Dell now has an Inspiron 9100 that is selling for the same price I 
paid for my 5150, its better in nearly every way. (except size.)




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Re: [newbie] Laptop

2004-04-23 Thread Q.H.Wang
Hi people!

My one is Compaq presario 2815. I have run Mandrake 9.1 for about one year
since last April, I don't encounter any problem. I guess what you need to do
is, just buy a new one and then install Mandrake (maybe) 10. You will not
find any problem.

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[newbie] Shutdown/Reboot

2004-04-23 Thread James Hill

I have a problem...

If I use the Shutdown/Reboot GUI in either KDE or Gnome, the screen goes 
black, and the computer just hangs, and does not shut down. Turn it on again, 
and the HDD has to be checked before it boots up.

However, 

Open up a terminal, type poweroff or reboot, and things happen as they should.

I havent got a problem with this method, but my PC doesnt have a Windows 
partition, and is shared by other members of my family, and every time one of 
them has used it, It checks the file system, as they have been bought up on 
Windows, and keep forgetting the terminal method..

Any Ideas how I can fix this problem so it works as it should?

JRH

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[newbie] SOUND with MD9.1 and the NVIDIA nForce2MCP2 southbridge chip

2004-04-23 Thread John Richard Smith
SOUND with MD9.1 and the NVIDIA nForce2MCP2 southbridge chip
I ran, drakesound and chose the nvaudio sound driver,and,
ali5455 (ALI 5455 audio support) is what it did.
my /etc/modules.conf now looks like this,
#above snd-via82xx snd-pcm-oss ( I hashed this , was my old driver)
alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0
alias /dev/nvidia*   nvidia
above snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm-oss
and,
lspcidrake -v | fgrep AUDIO
i810_audio  : Nvidia Corporation|nForce2 Audio Codec Interface 
[MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] (vendor:10de device:006a subv:1462 subd:5700)

and,
grep sound-slot /etc/modules.conf
alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0
and,
/sbin/lsmod
snd-seq-oss31104   0  (unused)
snd-seq-midi-event  5640   0  [snd-seq-oss]
snd-seq42608   2  [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event]
snd-pcm-oss43556   0
snd-mixer-oss  14488   0  [snd-pcm-oss]
snd-intel8x0   21988   4
snd-ac97-codec 40160   0  [snd-intel8x0]
snd-pcm77536   0  [snd-pcm-oss snd-intel8x0]
snd-timer  18376   0  [snd-seq snd-pcm]
snd-mpu401-uart 4396   0  [snd-intel8x0]
snd-rawmidi17600   0  [snd-mpu401-uart]
snd-seq-device  5832   0  [snd-seq-oss snd-seq snd-rawmidi]
snd-page-alloc  7732   0  [snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm]
snd40868   4  [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event 
snd-seq snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-intel8x0 snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm 
snd-timer snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device]
soundcore   6276   0  [snd]

and,
/sbin/chkconfig --list sound
sound   0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
and,snapshot457.jpg is how kde CC see it.

Anyone with nvidia sound chipe and driver got any ideas how I might get 
mine to work.

John

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[newbie] Shutdown/Reboot

2004-04-23 Thread JRH
I have a problem...

If I use the Shutdown/Reboot GUI in either KDE or Gnome, the screen goes 
black, and the computer just hangs, and does not shut down. Turn it on again, 
and the HDD has to be checked before it boots up.

However, 

Open up a terminal, type poweroff or reboot, and things happen as they should.

I havent got a problem with this method, but my PC doesnt have a Windows 
partition, and is shared by other members of my family, and every time one of 
them has used it, It checks the file system, as they have been bought up on 
Windows, and keep forgetting the terminal method..

Any Ideas how I can fix this problem so it works as it should?

JRH

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Re: [newbie] Shutdown/Reboot

2004-04-23 Thread M.Schild

 I have a problem...

 If I use the Shutdown/Reboot GUI in either KDE or Gnome, the screen goes
 black, and the computer just hangs, and does not shut down. Turn it on
 again, and the HDD has to be checked before it boots up.

Mine does just the same ( 9.1)

 However,

 Open up a terminal, type poweroff or reboot, and things happen as they
 should.

Thanks for the tip, I just tried and it works.

 I havent got a problem with this method, but my PC doesnt have a Windows
 partition, and is shared by other members of my family, and every time one
 of them has used it, It checks the file system, as they have been bought up
 on Windows, and keep forgetting the terminal method..

 Any Ideas how I can fix this problem so it works as it should?


I don´t run Windows either and I am the only one to use the machine.
I was told to this by the support team, haven´t tried yet:

it appears that the implementation of apic/apm is not totally compatible with
the kernel that 9.1 is running on.  one thing you could try is updaing your
system to the latest kernel that we have made available for 9.1.  another
possibility is to  try kernel parameters that have an effect on acpi and apm.
 here is how:

boot like this:

press esc at the lilo screen at the beginning of the boot process type this
at the \'boot:\' prompt:

linux noapic acpi=off enter

or

linux noapic acpi=off apm=off enter

or

linux noacpi noapm apm=power_off enter

if none of the above work then try passing one or more of the following to the
linux kernel in the above format:

acpi=ht 
nolapic
noapic
noacpi
acpi=off
pci=noacpi
noapm
apm=off
apm=power_off


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Re: [newbie] Laptop

2004-04-23 Thread Job Evers
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 16:36:11 +0200
Marco Terzuoli wrote:

 Hi,
 I am due to buy a laptop computer, but I know that linux mandrake (and
 probably other distros as well) have problems working on certain laptops.
 Do you have any suggestion about which model I should buy?
 Thanks,
 Marco
 

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problems with drivers for my graphics chipset.  It works, but I would not recommend it.

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Re: [newbie] SOUND with MD9.1 and the NVIDIA nForce2MCP2 southbridge chip

2004-04-23 Thread Travis Crook
On Fri, 2004-04-23 at 10:58, John Richard Smith wrote:
 SOUND with MD9.1 and the NVIDIA nForce2MCP2 southbridge chip
 I ran, drakesound and chose the nvaudio sound driver,and,
 ali5455 (ALI 5455 audio support) is what it did.
{SNIP}
 Anyone with nvidia sound chipe and driver got any ideas how I might get 
 mine to work.
 
 John

Hi John,
I'm running Mandrake 10.0CE and had initial problems with my nforce
chipset (not the nforce2 chipset, don't know if there is a difference in
getting audio to work).  I set my driver to be nvaudio inside MCC and
then ran alsaconf from the command line.  It seems to be working across
the board for me now (xmms, unreal tournament, etc.).

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Re: [newbie] Are there any AAC(.m4u) plugins for Linux?

2004-04-23 Thread Marc Resnick

- Original Message - 
From: Rory Gleeson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Are there any AAC(.m4u) plugins for Linux?


 Ogg is difficult to support on digital audio players, since it's such a
 resource hog and a battery drain.  The Xiph foundation really hasn't
 focused on it being a portable format yet, which is hindering adoption on
 the portable player market.

 iRiver has had a lot of problems integrating it.  The only player that has
 successfully integrated it is the Rio Karma, which is the only player that
 has also integrated Ogg gapless playback.

 If you have an iPod, I would suggest ripping in MP3 LAME rather than AAC,
 as it's more versatile and you won't be locked in to Apple hardware.  The
 reason that iTunes is likely ripping so quickly as it's not taking its
time
 to properly encode.

 Try ripping in MP3 LAME 3.95 (anything after 3.90 supports gapless in
 MP3).  The Standard setting is a good one.  Tracks are around 200 bits and
 sound great.  It will take a long time to rip in LAME but it's worth
 it.  It's taking its time which means fewer artifacts.

 For those who pick products based on politics and philosophy, AAC, WMA and
 MP3 will never suit you.  But, WMA and AAC are actually good sounding
 codecs and it would be a rare occasion if someone could tell the
difference
 between them and Ogg at circa 200bits.   The problem with WMA and AAC is
 they lock you in (Steven Jobs and Bill Gates just can't seem to find a new
 song to sing after all these years), which is why I avoid them.

 Rory



 At 11:51 PM 22/04/2004, you wrote:
 On Thursday 22 April 2004 11:44 pm, Marc Resnick wrote:
   Yes Greg, after selling some of my old games and running around
looking for
   spare change, I did manage to buy a 10gig 3g like new iPod off of ebay
=).
 
 I let the coolness factor tempt me for about 10 seconds before I opted
for my
 iriver.  No matter how cool a product, I am really having a hard time
lately
 accepting anything that includes an attempt at proprietary lockin.  This
has
 nothing to do with open source or GPL philosophy, just open standards.
 
   Hopefully in future firmware updates, Ogg Vorbis will be supported.
 
 Don't hold your breath :-o
 --
 /g
 
 _

I do have all of my tracks ripped by LAME, 160 kbps. I decided to rip them
in AAC because, in my opinion, it's better quality than mp3s. Also, with the
same number of songs, it's now half the size. 10gb can fill up quickly with
music, believe it or not.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by properly encode. I was comparing the
actual speed it took just to rip a song, not including encoding. Of course
one of the reasons it's much quicker is that iTunes encodes at virtually the
same time.

AAC doesn't lock me in in any way. There's a plugin for Linux, I can play it
in Windows, and I can play it on my iPod. That's all I need.

Now speaking of my iPod...my firewire pcmcia card should be coming soon so I
can actually put music on it.
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RE: [newbie] PHPGroupware

2004-04-23 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 00:09, Tango Echo wrote:

 Stephen,
 
 I wish I could help you.  But just out of curiosity,
 have you researched any other packages such as
 OpenGroupware?  OpenGroupware doesn't seem to have as
 slick an interface as PHPGW but I believe it can be
 customized.  The reason I ask is because I will be
 looking to research and/or deploy a Linux based
 groupware package at one of my sites...
 
 Thanks,
 
 Tango

Yeppers - have looked - hence the reason for wanting to dig into PHPGW;
it's at least more developed OR SO IT SEEMS - now if I can just get the
damn thing running...

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[newbie] MS: We know we suck, and we don't really care.

2004-04-23 Thread JoeHill

 Contorer wrote that end users stuck with Windows, despite the operating
system's shortcomings, based on the high costs of abandoning heavy investments
already made in APIs.

'The Windows API is so broad, so deep and so functional that most ISVs
(independent software vendors) would be crazy not to use it. And it is so deeply
embedded in the source code of many Windows apps that there is a huge switching
cost to using a different operating system, instead,' the e-mail reads.

'It is this switching cost that has given the customers the patience to stick
with Windows through all our mistakes, our buggy drivers, our high TCO (total
cost of ownership), our lack of a sexy vision, at times, and many other
difficulties,' the e-mail said. 'Customers constantly evaluate other desktop
platforms, (but) it would be so much work to move over that they hope we just
improve Windows rather than force them to move.'

Link:

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20040422231316209

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Re: [newbie] MS: We know we suck, and we don't really care.

2004-04-23 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 06:40, JoeHill wrote:

 'It is this switching cost that has given the customers the patience to stick
 with Windows through all our mistakes, our buggy drivers, our high TCO (total
 cost of ownership), our lack of a sexy vision, at times, and many other
 difficulties,' the e-mail said. 'Customers constantly evaluate other desktop
 platforms, (but) it would be so much work to move over that they hope we just
 improve Windows rather than force them to move.'

So when ya installing XP Pro, Joe? Sad to see ya leave this forum, mate.
I'm sure the humourless bastards and bastardettes in the MS forums are
going to love ya...
(g)

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Re: [newbie] MS: We know we suck, and we don't really care.

2004-04-23 Thread Lanman
Stephen Kuhn wrote:
I'm sure the humourless bastards and bastardettes in the MS forums are
going to love ya...
(g)
stephen kuhn - owner
Or Maybe Not?

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Re: [newbie] MS: We know we suck, and we don't really care.

2004-04-23 Thread Ian MacGregor
So, let's all just stick with Windows and *CONTINUE* to pay for what would 
otherwise be free with Linux
 That is the dumbest concept I have ever heard. Can't believe a human being 
actually thinks that way. I would much rather switch to something, knowing I 
lost money, if it would keep me from losing *more* money, than stay where I 
am and, knowingly, *continue* to throw lose away.

On Friday 23 April 2004 1:40 pm, JoeHill wrote:
  Contorer wrote that end users stuck with Windows, despite the operating
 system's shortcomings, based on the high costs of abandoning heavy
 investments already made in APIs.

 'The Windows API is so broad, so deep and so functional that most ISVs
 (independent software vendors) would be crazy not to use it. And it is so
 deeply embedded in the source code of many Windows apps that there is a
 huge switching cost to using a different operating system, instead,' the
 e-mail reads.

 'It is this switching cost that has given the customers the patience to
 stick with Windows through all our mistakes, our buggy drivers, our high
 TCO (total cost of ownership), our lack of a sexy vision, at times, and
 many other difficulties,' the e-mail said. 'Customers constantly evaluate
 other desktop platforms, (but) it would be so much work to move over that
 they hope we just improve Windows rather than force them to move.'

 Link:

 http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20040422231316209

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Re: [newbie] MS: We know we suck, and we don't really care.

2004-04-23 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 07:06, Ian MacGregor wrote:
 So, let's all just stick with Windows and *CONTINUE* to pay for what would 
 otherwise be free with Linux
  That is the dumbest concept I have ever heard. Can't believe a human being 
 actually thinks that way. I would much rather switch to something, knowing I 
 lost money, if it would keep me from losing *more* money, than stay where I 
 am and, knowingly, *continue* to throw lose away.

Consider that there are folks in corporate positions that fear new
things; and fear change. They don't think outside the box and
therefore are enslaved to the thinking that Microsoft has instilled in
them. It's basically the same as about ten years ago having desktop
users switch from OS/2 to Windows - just a matter of time and just a
matter of awakening; believe me, there are more folks in management
that are thinking about TCO with Windows - the IT costs for dealing with
support issues and viruses/trojans/back doors/spyware/adware, the costs
of licensing, the bi-yearly costs of upgrading Office - that balanced
against training doesn't come out very well - and the true TCO of a
Windows network begins to rear it's ugly head.

For all the FUD that M$ spreads about linux having a higher TCO in the
end, well, they fail to mention those other hidden costs in having to
run and maintain a Windows based network...

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

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[newbie] Apollon Part 2

2004-04-23 Thread Drew Martin
Hello All,
If anyone is interested I have managed to get Gnutella to work 
with Apollon.I'll post  talk though,anyone wants it.
   It may not be the most consise,walk though ever,but I'm willing to 
give it ago.
   Cheers,
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Re: [newbie] Are there any AAC(.m4u) plugins for Linux?

2004-04-23 Thread Marc Resnick

- Original Message - 
From: Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Are there any AAC(.m4u) plugins for Linux?


snipzor
 Make sure dma is on on your optical drives.  hdparm is the utility you
want to
 help check this, and use scsi emulation if you are using a 2.4 series
kernel
 (not necessary with 2.6).
 -- 

Err...Does that involve recompiling the kernel? If not, can you give a brief
explanation on how it's done? I'm using Kernel 2.6.3-4 by the way. (Mandrake
RPM version)

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Re: [newbie] SOUND with MD9.1 and the NVIDIA nForce2MCP2 southbridge chip

2004-04-23 Thread John Richard Smith
Travis Crook wrote:

On Fri, 2004-04-23 at 10:58, John Richard Smith wrote:

SOUND with MD9.1 and the NVIDIA nForce2MCP2 southbridge chip
I ran, drakesound and chose the nvaudio sound driver,and,
ali5455 (ALI 5455 audio support) is what it did.
{SNIP}

Anyone with nvidia sound chipe and driver got any ideas how I might get 
mine to work.

John

Hi John,
I'm running Mandrake 10.0CE and had initial problems with my nforce
chipset (not the nforce2 chipset, don't know if there is a difference in
getting audio to work).  I set my driver to be nvaudio inside MCC and
then ran alsaconf from the command line.  It seems to be working across
the board for me now (xmms, unreal tournament, etc.).
Hope that helps

It did and although I don't seem to have any alsaconf on my system,I do now have 
sound,with
this settings,
MCC - Hardware-Harddrake -nForce2 audio codec interface

Bus identification : 10de.6a:1462:5700
location:0:6:0
description  nFirce2 audio codec interface
module: i810_audio
module class: multimedia-audio
I had to unmute the  97-CD line in aumix

and my /etc/modules.conf looks like this,

alias sound-slot-0 nvidia
alias  /dev/nvidia*  nvidia
above snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm-oss
Which is just fine.

Now to configure my USB stuff, but that another day, it's late now.

John

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Re: [ml] [newbie] Apollon Part 2

2004-04-23 Thread Dave Ashmore
Drew Martin wrote:

Hello All,
   If anyone is interested I have managed to get Gnutella to work 
with Apollon.I'll post  talk though,anyone wants it.
  It may not be the most consise,walk though ever,but I'm willing to 
give it ago.
  Cheers,
 Drew
   

 

Please post away I'm interested.
Dave Ashmore

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[newbie] Re: Mozilla fonts

2004-04-23 Thread Miroslav Skoric
Paul Smith wrote:


Why do not you consider installing the xft version of mozilla?

http://www.scottbolander.com/mozilla-xft.html
I did it right now and that version finally appeared ok (as fine as the 
'original' v 1.3). According to the site, it has something related to 
anti-aliasing enabled (or something like that). Seems that was the 
difference with 'factory' build of 1.6 version. Regardless of that, I 
checked my KDE's configuration and it seems that anti-aliasing for fonts 
was enabled as default. What makes me wonder is why it didn't work with 
the 'factory' build of 1.6 ?

In addition, you could import MS Windows truetype fonts (with drakfont), 
in case you have a dual machine (MS Windows + Linux).

Didn't have it here (yet). But on another machine, I imported MS Windows 
truetype fonts (with drakfont) - before installing xft version of 
mozilla and new fonts did not help the 1.6 factory build to look better.

I hope this helps you!

Paul

Anyway, thanks for suggestions. Case there is a solution for other 
similar installations (like Netscape or like) for KDE, any pointer would 
be apreciated.

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Re: [newbie] Re: Mozilla fonts

2004-04-23 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 09:16, Miroslav Skoric wrote:

 Anyway, thanks for suggestions. Case there is a solution for other 
 similar installations (like Netscape or like) for KDE, any pointer would 
 be apreciated.
 
 Misko

Why not just use MozillaFirebird instead?
Looks beautiful mate.

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Re: [newbie] MS: We know we suck, and we don't really care.

2004-04-23 Thread Aron Smith
On Friday 23 April 2004 01:52 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 06:40, JoeHill wrote:
  'It is this switching cost that has given the customers the patience to
  stick with Windows through all our mistakes, our buggy drivers, our high
  TCO (total cost of ownership), our lack of a sexy vision, at times, and
  many other difficulties,' the e-mail said. 'Customers constantly evaluate
  other desktop platforms, (but) it would be so much work to move over that
  they hope we just improve Windows rather than force them to move.'

 So when ya installing XP Pro, Joe? Sad to see ya leave this forum, mate.
 I'm sure the humourless bastards and bastardettes in the MS forums are
 going to love ya...
 (g)
Joe Pill on a u$ux forem? gGG I wanna see that.

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Re: [newbie] MS: We know we suck, and we don't really care.

2004-04-23 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 10:06, Aron Smith wrote:

 Joe Pill on a u$ux forem? gGG I wanna see that.

I could see him trying to port Pek(er)WM to WindowsXP and getting into
heated political debates concerning Redmond, illicit substances,
software piracy, capitalism, hacking, pr0n, family moral values, DUI's,
bloated code, righteous Microsoft business and legal practices,
OSS/GPL'd Microsoft code, skinning otters, mistaking goats for poodles,
how to clean your bong in 10 easy steps - ya know, things like that.
Edu-ma-kay-shun-al stuff.

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Re: [newbie] Are there any AAC(.m4u) plugins for Linux?

2004-04-23 Thread Greg Meyer
On Friday 23 April 2004 06:40 pm, Marc Resnick wrote:
 Err...Does that involve recompiling the kernel? 

No

 If not, can you give a 
 brief explanation on how it's done? I'm using Kernel 2.6.3-4 by the way.
 (Mandrake RPM version)
Do you have a scsi or ata cdrom?  If ATA, what is the device ie /dev/hdc 
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Re: [newbie] MS: We know we suck, and we don't really care.

2004-04-23 Thread Charlie
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 07:06 am, many eyes viewed Ian MacGregor's words:-
 So, let's all just stick with Windows and *CONTINUE* to pay for what would
 otherwise be free with Linux
  That is the dumbest concept I have ever heard. Can't believe a human being
 actually thinks that way. I would much rather switch to something, knowing
 I lost money, if it would keep me from losing *more* money, than stay where
 I am and, knowingly, *continue* to throw lose away.

Unfortunately most human beings rather the devil they know than the devil they 
don't, sad but true. To get anything to work, it must run parallel to human 
nature in the main. Human nature takes eons to alter. Some of these 
instinctive acts are still relevant, others are not. Your eyelid closing 
before an object hits the eyeball. Very beneficial. Walking a path that 
others have walked upon, means you don't fall into the quicksand and get 
swallowed up. The known path is littered with the graves of pioneers. If all 
were pioneers, then there would be no one to bury them.

Using windows because you know it and not Linux, because you don't. Not wise 
at all. But a natural inclination.

Charlie.

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Re: [newbie] MS: We know we suck, and we don't really care.

2004-04-23 Thread JoeHill
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 17:06:18 -0700
Aron Smith disseminated the following:

 Joe Pill on a u$ux forem? gGG I wanna see that.

I dropped in over at Neowin.net a while back actually. Got them all ...worked
up...

Heh.

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Re: [newbie] Help! I Killed Samba

2004-04-23 Thread shaz
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 01:30, Amichai Rotman wrote:


 Sounds like your TCP/IP is corrupt. Try removing, rebooting and
 re-insatlling the XP Network settings (Remove all protocols) then re-run
 DrakConnect to reset the network settings on the LinuxBox.

 I would switch the IP #s between them. IMHO, Linux should be 192.168.0.1...

 Good Luck,

 ::.

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many thanks...
now almost everything works...
the only thing still not working is xp ping to itself. (127.0.0.1)
so no real problem.

thanks again

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Re: [newbie] MS: We know we suck, and we don't really care.

2004-04-23 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 06:52:59 +1000
Stephen Kuhn disseminated the following:

  'It is this switching cost that has given the customers the patience to
  stick
  with Windows through all our mistakes, our buggy drivers, our high TCO
  (total
  cost of ownership), our lack of a sexy vision, at times, and many other
  difficulties,' the e-mail said. 'Customers constantly evaluate other desktop
  platforms, (but) it would be so much work to move over that they hope we
  just
  improve Windows rather than force them to move.'
 
 So when ya installing XP Pro, Joe? Sad to see ya leave this forum, mate.
 I'm sure the humourless bastards and bastardettes in the MS forums are
 going to love ya...
 (g)

Puh-lease, listen, like you I have to deal with fscking XP a *lot* for work, and
it's like driving an old, half dead Toyota (G).

Must admit, I don't know much about the Office shit, but this one blew me away.
This client calls me because all of a sudden, his Outlook 'mail client'
(shudder) opens with the message that his messages and contacts are not
accessible. He's seriously pissed. You know what the problem was?

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;296088

So, no warning, just a serious fuckup that could easily be avoided by *not
putting every message and contact into one big stupid-ass file!*

MS developers are a bunch of moronic crackheads, but hell, they make me money.

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Re: [newbie] MS: We know we suck, and we don't really care.

2004-04-23 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 09:22:58 +1000
Charlie disseminated the following:

  So, let's all just stick with Windows and *CONTINUE* to pay for what would
  otherwise be free with Linux
   That is the dumbest concept I have ever heard. Can't believe a human being
  actually thinks that way. I would much rather switch to something, knowing
  I lost money, if it would keep me from losing *more* money, than stay where
  I am and, knowingly, *continue* to throw lose away.
 
 Unfortunately most human beings rather the devil they know than the devil they
 
 don't, sad but true. To get anything to work, it must run parallel to human 
 nature in the main. Human nature takes eons to alter. Some of these 
 instinctive acts are still relevant, others are not. Your eyelid closing 
 before an object hits the eyeball. Very beneficial. Walking a path that 
 others have walked upon, means you don't fall into the quicksand and get 
 swallowed up. The known path is littered with the graves of pioneers. If all 
 were pioneers, then there would be no one to bury them.
 
 Using windows because you know it and not Linux, because you don't. Not wise 
 at all. But a natural inclination.

I don't believe you can pin it on 'human nature', dude. People, like all life,
go for the bigger and better deal. If you find a spot that's comfy, you'll stick
around, sure. But if you see a bunch of people having a grand ol' time a ways
off, and their cave isn't crashing in on their heads unpredictably as yours has
recently, you gonna move.

We've been lulled into a restless sleep by the marketing and persuasion
industry, one that spends literally billions of dollars to do so. A complacent
and obsequious market is a predictable one, and that's what they want.

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Re: [newbie] MS: We know we suck, and we don't really care.

2004-04-23 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 10:33:48 +1000
Stephen Kuhn disseminated the following:

  Joe Pill on a u$ux forem? gGG I wanna see that.
 
 I could see him trying to port Pek(er)WM to WindowsXP and getting into
 heated political debates concerning Redmond, illicit substances,
 software piracy, capitalism, hacking, pr0n, family moral values, DUI's,
 bloated code, righteous Microsoft business and legal practices,
 OSS/GPL'd Microsoft code, skinning otters, mistaking goats for poodles,
 how to clean your bong in 10 easy steps - ya know, things like that.
 Edu-ma-kay-shun-al stuff.

You *know it* mate! (Though I don't know much about hacking)

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Re: [newbie] Re: Mozilla fonts

2004-04-23 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 09:32:33 +1000
Stephen Kuhn disseminated the following:

  Anyway, thanks for suggestions. Case there is a solution for other 
  similar installations (like Netscape or like) for KDE, any pointer would 
  be apreciated.
  
  Misko
 
 Why not just use MozillaFirebird instead?
 Looks beautiful mate.

'Fire*fox*', and yep, it's almost as good as p... uh, never mind.

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Re: [newbie] MS: We know we suck, and we don't really care.

2004-04-23 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 12:10, JoeHill wrote:

 Puh-lease, listen, like you I have to deal with fscking XP a *lot* for work, and
 it's like driving an old, half dead Toyota (G).

Oooouchgot me there matey.

 Must admit, I don't know much about the Office shit, but this one blew me away.
 This client calls me because all of a sudden, his Outlook 'mail client'
 (shudder) opens with the message that his messages and contacts are not
 accessible. He's seriously pissed. You know what the problem was?
 
 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;296088
 
 So, no warning, just a serious fuckup that could easily be avoided by *not
 putting every message and contact into one big stupid-ass file!*
 
 MS developers are a bunch of moronic crackheads, but hell, they make me money.

I've dealt with this issue before - but in an easier manner:
Sold the customer a RedHat server; used the standard imap/sendmail
setup; copied particular folders to the imap server therefore deleting
them from the .PST (this took DAYS - no joke); upon completion, reset
the configuration for LookOut to just use the IMAP server; customer
happy, worked faster than it did before. Customer decided to make use of
another server (linux, of course) for file/print sharing. Now I only
drop in once in a while to check the Windows2000/XP workstations - the
server keep on serving...

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dismiss as the work of some enthsiastic amateur who'd never looked at a
real sunset. This was one of those sunrises. It was the kind of sunrise
a man looks at and says, 'No real sunrise could paint the sky Surgical
Appliance Pink.' Nevertheless, it was beautiful. (The Thief of Time)



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Re: [newbie] Are there any AAC(.m4u) plugins for Linux?

2004-04-23 Thread Marc Resnick
Greg Meyer wrote:

On Friday 23 April 2004 06:40 pm, Marc Resnick wrote:
 

Err...Does that involve recompiling the kernel? 
   

No

 

If not, can you give a 
brief explanation on how it's done? I'm using Kernel 2.6.3-4 by the way.
(Mandrake RPM version)
   

Do you have a scsi or ata cdrom?  If ATA, what is the device ie /dev/hdc 
or /dev/hdd?
 

 

I Think it's SCSI, but I'm not positive. The device is /dev/hdc.





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