Re: [newbie] virus

2004-10-26 Thread Alexander Ruoff

 How can you know exactly who it came from? I realize that such mostly
 comes from infected windoze boxes, and I'm thinking that someone out
 there who has my email in their address book has a virus which has been
 spoofing my address, like the one Tom  Karen Pino got. The question is
 who?

I remember that under Windows 98 I had a tracing program with which I
could follow the trace of the email or even an web-address with a nice
graphical output, showing from which pc the mail was send or where the
website was hosted. Don't know if such a program exists for linux as
well.

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Re: [newbie] ordered new laptop

2004-10-26 Thread Alexander Ruoff
Am Mo, den 25.10.2004 schrieb Angus Auld um 23:21:
 Greetings, I just ordered a new laptop, a Dell Inspiron 1150. 
 Is there anyone on the list who has experience with this model 
  and Mandrake Linux??
 As best as I could determine, Dell laptops are relatively Linux 
 compatible/friendly.
 
 Any feedback would be appreciated.
 Dell had a great offer on the Inspiron.free shipping, free upgrade to a 60GB 
 harddrive, free nylon carrying case, and..a free Kodak CX 6445 digital camera! 
 :-)
 
 Best regards.
 
 --Angus

Hi Angus,

I got a Dell Inspiron 510m which was a great offer as well but the first
thing I experienced was a green screen due to a problem with my
graphic card and the bios. You should have a newer bios (I got A02) but
if you get a green screen don't through your laptop out of the window ;)

There is a patch out on the internet for the intel chip sets 845, 855
and 865 as well as a wrap. If you need one of those, just contact me and
I try to help you as good as I can.

If you got a 865 chip set, you might have though a different problem
which is the allocation of the memory of the graphic card. For this you
have to look into the bios and see how much memory is allocated to it.
If it is just 1 MB set it to the maximum, even if only 8 or 16 MB are
possible. But than you have all resolutions available instead of just
640.

Hope however that none of those problems occur to you ;)

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Re: [newbie] ordered new laptop

2004-10-26 Thread John Layt
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:21, Angus Auld wrote:
 Greetings, I just ordered a new laptop, a Dell Inspiron 1150.
 Is there anyone on the list who has experience with this model
  and Mandrake Linux??
 As best as I could determine, Dell laptops are relatively Linux
 compatible/friendly.

 Any feedback would be appreciated.
 Dell had a great offer on the Inspiron.free shipping, free upgrade to a
 60GB harddrive, free nylon carrying case, and..a free Kodak CX 6445
 digital camera! :-)


A couple of excellent on-line resources for Linux Laptops with lots of reviews 
and configuration hints are:
http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/
http://tuxmobil.org/

If you have wireless, there's the chipsets for which we have real drivers, 
then there's Intel's Centrino chips and Broadcom's chips which are very 
common and for which you would need to use NDISWrapper from 
http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/ .

For the Digital Camera compatbility, check out the GPhoto site:
http://www.gphoto.org/

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Re: [newbie] Home network help needed

2004-10-26 Thread Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 06:32, Russell W. Behne wrote:
 Today at 00:22, Greg Meyer wrote:
  On Monday 25 October 2004 09:04 pm, Russell W. Behne wrote:
   Ok, I got the switch, installed it, and the two hosts can ping each
   other, but neither can ping the server, and when I try to ping either
   host from the server I get this error message:
   ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
   Any idea what's causing this, and how to fix it?
 
  A quick google search turned up this.  Does it help?

 Ok, I did this:
 ]# iptables -L OUTPUT -n -v
 Chain OUTPUT (policy DROP 0 packets, 0 bytes)
  pkts bytes target  prot opt in out  source destination
 10175 4066K ACCEPT   all  --  * lo   0.0.0.0/0  0.0.0.0/0
 0 0 DROP!icmp --  * *0.0.0.0/0  0.0.0.0/0  state INVALID
 24541 1478K fw2net   all  --  * eth0 0.0.0.0/0  0.0.0.0/0
  4286  336K all2all  all  --  * eth1 0.0.0.0/0  0.0.0.0/0
 0 0 Reject   all  --  * *0.0.0.0/0  0.0.0.0/0
 0 0 LOG  all  --  * *0.0.0.0/0  0.0.0.0/0  LOG flags 0
 level 6 prefix `Shorewall:OUTPUT:REJECT:' 0 0 reject   all  --  * *   
 0.0.0.0/0  0.0.0.0/0

 Being a complete newbie at this, it appears that shorewall is blocking
 ALL pings. Exactly how should I enable bidirectional pings (and
 everything else for that matter) within my local network, and still
 block only those pings coming from outside, (from the Internet)? I've
 never had to manually config shorewall, and haven't a clue what
 ccommand to use, or where to put it to make it permanent.

Yes shorewall will by default block pings from both the Internet and the local 
network. It will also block ALL traffic from the local network to the 
firewall. So if you want to run as a firewall AND as a server you must open 
up traffic to the local network.

SHorewall is actually pretty easy to configure once you understand it. There 
are a number of text config files.
/etc/shorewall/zones  defines the zones to protect. net- is the internet, fw- 
is the firewall itself, loc- is the local network

/etc/shorewall/interfaces defines which interface is in which zone.

/etc/shorewall/policy  defines the general firewall policy
/etc/shorewall/masq  defines masquerading (Network address translation)
/etc/shorewall/rules defines exceptoins to the policy (ports you want to open)

The text is self explanatory

to allow ping from local net in 'rules'

ACCEPT  loc fw  icmp8

to open up all services from local net to firewall in 'policy' change

loc fw  ACCEPT


Then 'shorewall restart'
  in a root terminal
see www.shorewall.net for documentation.

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Re: [newbie] module removal

2004-10-26 Thread Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 05:57, Dobrescu Mihai wrote:
 Hello,

 I've installed the 10.1 Community and I tried to
 install nVidia driver. It displays a warning about
 incompatibility with rivafb driver module (the kernel
 is set to run with). I don't have a Riva.
 How could I remove the rivafb module from the kernel?

 Thanks,
 Mike

Do not bother. It is only a warning. It will still work.


BTW: the nvidia driver will not compile with 10.1CE I have a page here to tell 
you how to get around the issue
http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/nvidia.html

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Re: [newbie] Comparing md5sums in 10.0

2004-10-26 Thread John Richard Smith
Miark wrote:
 

   

What do you do to verify discs?
 

Do you still have the iso file ?
   

Yes.
Miark
OK, simple enough.
First check iso image file md5sum,
you probably know how to do this anyway,but,
In a terminal,
cd path to iso image file directory  enter
md5sum iso image file
check the return against the published md5sum.
then you need to know the iso image file size to the last byte.
so,
ls -l iso image file
Divide the size of the ISO image file by 2048 to get the
number of sectors, and record that sum (=n, hereafter)
Then burn the iso image file contents to CD.
I use cdrecord, I like the data output, and note,
cdrecord will publish your sector count it should
agree with the above sector calculation, watch
the script carefully, it flashes by.
Then, making sure the CD you just burned isn't mounted:
in terminal,
dd if=/dev/scd0 bs=2048 count=n | md5sum -
(note the   -   on the end, don't leave it off.
change the /dev/scd0 to whatever device setting your
drive is on your system.
and where   n   is the number of sectors calculated above.
All 3  md5sums should agree,
ie, the published, your iso file, and the CD.
If they don't agree you have either a duff write,
or duff iso file.
Hope this helps you,
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Re: [newbie] ordered new laptop

2004-10-26 Thread Angus Auld

- Original Message -
From: John Layt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] ordered new laptop
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:30:41 +1000

 
 On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:21, Angus Auld wrote:
  Greetings, I just ordered a new laptop, a Dell Inspiron 1150.
  Is there anyone on the list who has experience with this model
   and Mandrake Linux??
  As best as I could determine, Dell laptops are relatively Linux
  compatible/friendly.
 
  Any feedback would be appreciated.
  Dell had a great offer on the Inspiron.free shipping, free upgrade to a
  60GB harddrive, free nylon carrying case, and..a free Kodak CX 6445
  digital camera! :-)
 
 
 A couple of excellent on-line resources for Linux Laptops with lots of reviews 
 and configuration hints are:
 http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/
 http://tuxmobil.org/
 
 If you have wireless, there's the chipsets for which we have real drivers, 
 then there's Intel's Centrino chips and Broadcom's chips which are very 
 common and for which you would need to use NDISWrapper from 
 http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/ .
 
 For the Digital Camera compatbility, check out the GPhoto site:
 http://www.gphoto.org/
 
 John.
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Much appreciated.

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Re: [newbie] module removal

2004-10-26 Thread Dobrescu Mihai
Thanks!

I'll do it this evening.
But my question still remains: 

How could I remove/un-set a module (let say 'rivafb')?
I don't want to rebuild the kernel...

And another one:

How could I recompile a kernel with the same settings
as other? (if I have a new (minor) version and I want
to keep - as much as possible - the old one settings;
or if I have one and I want to make another
compilation, but with 1-2 modules different, how could
I 'clone' the settings)?

Thanks!

--- Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Tuesday 26 October 2004 05:57, Dobrescu Mihai
 wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I've installed the 10.1 Community and I tried to
  install nVidia driver. It displays a warning about
  incompatibility with rivafb driver module (the
 kernel
  is set to run with). I don't have a Riva.
  How could I remove the rivafb module from the
 kernel?
 
  Thanks,
  Mike
 
 Do not bother. It is only a warning. It will still
 work.
 
 
 BTW: the nvidia driver will not compile with 10.1CE
 I have a page here to tell 
 you how to get around the issue
 http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/nvidia.html
 
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Re: [newbie] module removal

2004-10-26 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
Dobrescu Mihai wrote:
How could I remove/un-set a module (let say 'rivafb')?
I don't want to rebuild the kernel...
As root, from a terminal window:
# rmmod module name
To see the currently loaded modules:
# lsmod
For more info:
# man rmmod
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Re: [newbie] Comparing md5sums in 10.0

2004-10-26 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 10:18 +0100, John Richard Smith wrote:
 Then, making sure the CD you just burned isn't mounted:
 
 in terminal,
 dd if=/dev/scd0 bs=2048 count=n | md5sum -
 (note the   -   on the end, don't leave it off.
 
 change the /dev/scd0 to whatever device setting your
 drive is on your system.
 and where   n   is the number of sectors calculated above.
 
 All 3  md5sums should agree,
 ie, the published, your iso file, and the CD.
 If they don't agree you have either a duff write,
 or duff iso file.
 
 Hope this helps you,
 
 John

`md5sum /dev/scd0` works fine here, no matter if the CD is mounted or
not.

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Re: [newbie] module removal

2004-10-26 Thread Dobrescu Mihai
I've tried this all the last evening.
I have got no feed-back and the module wasn't removed.
No modprobe changes even.
I run an 10.1C.

I am a newbie and I don't know how to find the reason
(in a log or somewhere else?).

--- Raffaele BELARDI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dobrescu Mihai wrote:
  
  How could I remove/un-set a module (let say
 'rivafb')?
  I don't want to rebuild the kernel...
 
 As root, from a terminal window:
 # rmmod module name
 
 To see the currently loaded modules:
 # lsmod
 
 For more info:
 # man rmmod
 
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Re: [newbie] Hard disk clone

2004-10-26 Thread John Richard Smith
Miark wrote:
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:31:37 +0200, Alan wrote:
 

Is there another product (linux based) that I can use instead of Ghost  
(bear in mind it has two ntfs partitions on it as well.
   


http://www.mondorescue.com will backup or clone any system
running Linux (even if it's a multi-boot system).
Miark
 

Partimage can backup all types of file systems now, and restore them 
from image files, whether stored on HD or on CD.

It's one real disadvantage is that it cannot restore into resized 
partitions, at all well, that is not at all into smaller partitions, and 
only badly in larger partitions, it leaves the excess space alone.

Power Quest drive image , a comercial drive image programme, can do 
almost everything except some of the linux file systems, like reiserf. 
It can certainly handle resizing well.

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Re: [newbie] Hard disk clone

2004-10-26 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 06:08, John Richard Smith wrote:

 Power Quest drive image , a comercial drive image programme, can do
 almost everything except some of the linux file systems, like reiserf.
 It can certainly handle resizing well.

Paragon Hard Drive Manager will handle Linux file systems, including reiserfs 
and does pretty much the same thing as most other commercial drive image 
programs.

If you have to go commercial that is.

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Re: [newbie] module removal

2004-10-26 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
Dobrescu Mihai wrote:
I've tried this all the last evening.
I have got no feed-back and the module wasn't removed.
No modprobe changes even.
I run an 10.1C.
What does lsmod report?
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Re: [newbie] module removal

2004-10-26 Thread Dobrescu Mihai
I am not sure...
I coudn't test right now.
But yesterday no message was displayed.

--- Raffaele BELARDI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dobrescu Mihai wrote:
  I've tried this all the last evening.
  I have got no feed-back and the module wasn't
 removed.
  No modprobe changes even.
  I run an 10.1C.
  
 
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[newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1

2004-10-26 Thread Kaj Haulrich
Hello friends...

Until I installed 10.1 CE my Olympus C740UZ worked like a charm :
Just plugging it into an USB port popped up a harddisk icon on my 
desktop (be it KDE or Gnome) and I could copy, move, delete and one 
thing and another, just as another mass storage medium. I could 
even use the camera as another USB stick.

But in 10.1 the thing goes crazy : plugging the camera into an USB 
port clutters the desktop with strange icons 
(xsane-blah-blah-blah), rearranges all other icons and never stops.

Furthermore the CPU goes bananas.  Using top when in KDE shows 
kdeinit consuming 99% of the CPU cycles. In Gnome nothing shows in 
top, but nevertheless the system becomes almost unusable. Logging 
out/in doesn't remedy the problem, only a full reboot does.

Strange thing is, /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab don't reveil anything 
concerning the matter.

Do I really have to roll back to 10.0 ?

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Re: [newbie] module removal

2004-10-26 Thread Greg Meyer
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 06:03 am, Dobrescu Mihai wrote:
 I've tried this all the last evening.
 I have got no feed-back and the module wasn't removed.
 No modprobe changes even.
 I run an 10.1C.

rivafb is not loaded if you don't have the card, you are just getting a 
warning that if you do have one, it is incompatible.  Since the rivafb module 
doesn't actually ever load, you won't experience the conflict, and it won't 
show up with lsmod.

 I am a newbie and I don't know how to find the reason
 (in a log or somewhere else?).

Give yourself more credit, you did find the warning.  It can be safely ignored 
though because there is no way to get rid of it unless you rebuild the kernel 
without rivafb support.
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[newbie] [OT] Apache and users cgi

2004-10-26 Thread Todd Slater
I am hosting a few sites for friends that need cgi access. I read
something about cgi scripts shouldn't be in the web document root for
security purposes--people being able to read them as text. I turned on
cgi by adding the ExecCGI in Directory /home/*/public_html which if I
understand is not secure?

What's the standard practice for doing this with users and virtual
hosts?

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Re: [newbie] module removal

2004-10-26 Thread Dobrescu Mihai
Dear Sir,

I understand that the rivafb is not loaded.
I just want to learn how to remove a module I don't
need and I took this example.

--- Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tuesday 26 October 2004 06:03 am, Dobrescu Mihai
 wrote:
  I've tried this all the last evening.
  I have got no feed-back and the module wasn't
 removed.
  No modprobe changes even.
  I run an 10.1C.
 
 rivafb is not loaded if you don't have the card, you
 are just getting a 
 warning that if you do have one, it is incompatible.
  Since the rivafb module 
 doesn't actually ever load, you won't experience the
 conflict, and it won't 
 show up with lsmod.
 
  I am a newbie and I don't know how to find the
 reason
  (in a log or somewhere else?).
 
 Give yourself more credit, you did find the warning.
  It can be safely ignored 
 though because there is no way to get rid of it
 unless you rebuild the kernel 
 without rivafb support.
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Re: [newbie] [OT] Apache and users cgi

2004-10-26 Thread frankieh
Todd Slater wrote:
I am hosting a few sites for friends that need cgi access. I read
something about cgi scripts shouldn't be in the web document root for
security purposes--people being able to read them as text. I turned on
cgi by adding the ExecCGI in Directory /home/*/public_html which if I
understand is not secure?
What's the standard practice for doing this with users and virtual
hosts?
Todd
Create a cgi-bin directory in parallel to your docs direcory and make 
that the directory that is able to exec cgi scripts.
Directory /home/*/cgi-bin

and then  use ScriptAlias to make it available:
ScriptAlias  /cgi-bin/ /home/*/cgi-bin
That should get you on the right track.
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Re: [newbie] ML and slow DSL

2004-10-26 Thread Marc
On Saturday 23 October 2004 11:05 am, Thereidos wrote:
 W licie z sob, 23-10-2004, godz. 16:54, Marc pisze:
   Maybe your ISP is messing about with IPV6 Try disabling it.
   Put
   alias net-pf-10 off
   in your /etc/modprobe.conf  file and reboot.
  
   derek
 
  Maybe I am missing something but as best as I can tell I do not have
  a /etc/modprobe file

 If you're running 2.6.x kernel you gotta have that file
 (/etc/modprobe.conf). If you're running 2.4.x it is called
 /etc/modules.conf.

I just tried that and that made matters worse. I can no longer use a browser 
for anything  when I do I get a network error message but email still works 
fine

I tried a freah install of ML 10.0.2 on a spare hard drive and everything 
works great with it but I would still like to get things back on track with 
10.1

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Re: [newbie] Comparing md5sums in 10.0

2004-10-26 Thread John Richard Smith
Miark wrote:
This is exactly what used to work for me. The only difference I
see is that with kernel 2.6 I'm no longer using scsi emulation.
so I'm checking /dev/hdc instead of /dev/scd0. I wonder if that
has anything to do with it.
Miark
 


Of course, the 2.6 kernels don't use scsi-emulation,
so you device is /dev/hd(x)
where (x) is your drive letter.
But it will sometimes error, because ,
at least this is how I understand it,
it depends upon how the data is written to disc.
So sometimes using it will cause a perfectly good disc write error.
The example I use ensures no wrong md5sums on perfectly
good disc writes.
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Re: [newbie] movie player

2004-10-26 Thread Sevatio
Have you tried Xine or Mplayer?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
with my mdk10 installed i can't play movie directly from a source CD
especially the extension file is DAT or VCD format..
wat do i need to configure my totem media player?
im using Gnome
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Re: [newbie] Comparing md5sums in 10.0

2004-10-26 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 04:56 am, Adolfo Bello wrote:
 On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 10:18 +0100, John Richard Smith wrote:
  Then, making sure the CD you just burned isn't mounted:
 
  in terminal,
  dd if=/dev/scd0 bs=2048 count=n | md5sum -
  (note the   -   on the end, don't leave it off.
 
  change the /dev/scd0 to whatever device setting your
  drive is on your system.
  and where   n   is the number of sectors calculated above.
 
  All 3  md5sums should agree,
  ie, the published, your iso file, and the CD.
  If they don't agree you have either a duff write,
  or duff iso file.
 
  Hope this helps you,
 
  John

 `md5sum /dev/scd0` works fine here, no matter if the CD is
 mounted or not.

 Adolfo

  Yes, but in newer Mandrake versions the CD drives are seen 
as dev=ATA:0,0,0   I use 0,0,0 for example only, 
'cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus'  will return the actual numbers.  The 
ATA device (burner) is linked to the numbers. EG, on my system 
dev=ATA:1,1,0  = /dev/hdd So 'md5sum /dev/hdd' returns the 
md5sum on the CD.

 BUT, it will not be correct unless you use the -dao option 
when burning the iso to CD.  I burn on the CL using,
'cdrecord -v -eject driveropts=burnfree speed=16 dev=ATA:1,1,0 
-dao  name_of.iso'   _Do_Not_ use options like -pad or -data.
For speed I suggest 1/3 of the lesser capability, your burner or 
media speed.  My Plextor is 52x, media is 52x, so I use speed=16

Actually I use an alias,
alias biso='cdrecord -v -eject driveropts=burnfree speed=16 
dev=ATA:1,1,0 -dao' 

So simply 'biso name_of.iso' does the job!  ... and I always 
check the md5sum of the burned CD.  As always, I disdain the use 
of GUI apps for burning any kind of CD's, but particularly 
for .iso images. Use the CL and you'll know exactly what is going 
on. Y'allsMMV  ;)
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Re: [newbie] Home network help needed

2004-10-26 Thread Russell W. Behne
Today at 09:54, Derek Jennings wrote:
 Yes shorewall will by default block pings from both the Internet and
 the local network. It will also block ALL traffic from the local
 network to the firewall. So if you want to run as a firewall AND as a
 server you must open up traffic to the local network.
 SHorewall is actually pretty easy to configure once you understand it.
 There are a number of text config files. /etc/shorewall/zones defines
 the zones to protect. net- is the internet, fw- is the firewall
 itself, loc- is the local network
 /etc/shorewall/interfaces defines which interface is in which zone.
 /etc/shorewall/policy defines the general firewall policy
 /etc/shorewall/masq defines masquerading (Network address translation)
 /etc/shorewall/rules defines exceptoins to the policy (ports you want
 to open)
 The text is self explanatory
 to allow ping from local net in 'rules'
 ACCEPTloc fw  icmp8
 to open up all services from local net to firewall in 'policy' change
 loc   fw  ACCEPT
 Then 'shorewall restart' in a root terminal
 see www.shorewall.net for documentation.

Allright, I did all that just now, and after the restart trried to ping 
the 2 hosts from the server - no joy. Nothing's changed. I still can't 
ping them..

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Re: [newbie] Comparing md5sums in 10.0

2004-10-26 Thread Miark
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:18:17 +0100, John wrote:

 OK, simple enough...

Simple? I'll have to try this after work when I have
a half-hour to kill ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1

2004-10-26 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 14:13, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 Hello friends...

 Until I installed 10.1 CE my Olympus C740UZ worked like a charm :
 Just plugging it into an USB port popped up a harddisk icon on my
 desktop (be it KDE or Gnome) and I could copy, move, delete and one
 thing and another, just as another mass storage medium. I could
 even use the camera as another USB stick.

 But in 10.1 the thing goes crazy : plugging the camera into an USB
 port clutters the desktop with strange icons
 (xsane-blah-blah-blah), rearranges all other icons and never stops.

 Furthermore the CPU goes bananas.  Using top when in KDE shows
 kdeinit consuming 99% of the CPU cycles. In Gnome nothing shows in
 top, but nevertheless the system becomes almost unusable. Logging
 out/in doesn't remedy the problem, only a full reboot does.

 Strange thing is, /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab don't reveil anything
 concerning the matter.

 Do I really have to roll back to 10.0 ?

 Kaj Haulrich.
I'm quit happy with 10.1, so (according to me)
you shouldn't roll back.

But Kaj,
what do you get when running tail -f /var/log/messages when you plug in the 
device?
That's where we should be looking as well as lsmod before and after 
plugging-in.

Are these symptoms showing up in gnome as well as in KDE? You didn't mention;)

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Re: [newbie] Comparing md5sums in 10.0

2004-10-26 Thread Miark
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 05:56:29 -0400, Adolfo wrote:

 On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 10:18 +0100, John Richard Smith wrote:
  Then, making sure the CD you just burned isn't mounted:
  
  in terminal,
  dd if=/dev/scd0 bs=2048 count=n | md5sum -
  (note the   -   on the end, don't leave it off.
  
  change the /dev/scd0 to whatever device setting your
  drive is on your system.
  and where   n   is the number of sectors calculated above.
  
  All 3  md5sums should agree,
  ie, the published, your iso file, and the CD.
  If they don't agree you have either a duff write,
  or duff iso file.
 
 `md5sum /dev/scd0` works fine here, no matter if the CD is mounted or
 not.

This is exactly what used to work for me. The only difference I
see is that with kernel 2.6 I'm no longer using scsi emulation.
so I'm checking /dev/hdc instead of /dev/scd0. I wonder if that
has anything to do with it.

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Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1

2004-10-26 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 19:58, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
 On Tuesday 26 October 2004 14:13, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
  Hello friends...
 
  Until I installed 10.1 CE my Olympus C740UZ worked like a charm
  : Just plugging it into an USB port popped up a harddisk icon
  on my desktop (be it KDE or Gnome) and I could copy, move,
  delete and one thing and another, just as another mass storage
  medium. I could even use the camera as another USB stick.
 
  But in 10.1 the thing goes crazy : plugging the camera into an
  USB port clutters the desktop with strange icons
  (xsane-blah-blah-blah), rearranges all other icons and never
  stops.
 
  Furthermore the CPU goes bananas.  Using top when in KDE
  shows kdeinit consuming 99% of the CPU cycles. In Gnome nothing
  shows in top, but nevertheless the system becomes almost
  unusable. Logging out/in doesn't remedy the problem, only a
  full reboot does.
 
  Strange thing is, /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab don't reveil
  anything concerning the matter.
 
  Do I really have to roll back to 10.0 ?
 
  Kaj Haulrich.

 I'm quit happy with 10.1, so (according to me)
 you shouldn't roll back.

 But Kaj,
 what do you get when running tail -f /var/log/messages when you
 plug in the device?
 That's where we should be looking as well as lsmod before
 and after plugging-in.

 Are these symptoms showing up in gnome as well as in KDE? You
 didn't mention;)

Thanks, H.J.

Right now I'm a little reluctant to plug in my camera again, because 
it makes my 10.1 completely unusable.  If nothing else shows up, I 
may have to, and will let you know.

lsmod doesn't show anything about a camera.

And yes, KDE + Gnome + ICEwm + Windowmaker all runs amok after a 
camera is plugged in.  This is driving me crazy.

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Re: [newbie] Comparing md5sums in 10.0

2004-10-26 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 12:09 -0500, Tom Brinkman wrote:
 On Tuesday 26 October 2004 04:56 am, Adolfo Bello wrote:
  On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 10:18 +0100, John Richard Smith wrote:
   Then, making sure the CD you just burned isn't mounted:
  
   in terminal,
   dd if=/dev/scd0 bs=2048 count=n | md5sum -
   (note the   -   on the end, don't leave it off.
  
   change the /dev/scd0 to whatever device setting your
   drive is on your system.
   and where   n   is the number of sectors calculated above.
  
   All 3  md5sums should agree,
   ie, the published, your iso file, and the CD.
   If they don't agree you have either a duff write,
   or duff iso file.
  
   Hope this helps you,
  
   John
 
  `md5sum /dev/scd0` works fine here, no matter if the CD is
  mounted or not.
 
  Adolfo
 
   Yes, but in newer Mandrake versions the CD drives are seen 
 as dev=ATA:0,0,0   I use 0,0,0 for example only, 
 'cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus'  will return the actual numbers.  The 
 ATA device (burner) is linked to the numbers. EG, on my system 
 dev=ATA:1,1,0  = /dev/hdd So 'md5sum /dev/hdd' returns the 
 md5sum on the CD.
 
  BUT, it will not be correct unless you use the -dao option 
 when burning the iso to CD.  I burn on the CL using,
 'cdrecord -v -eject driveropts=burnfree speed=16 dev=ATA:1,1,0 
 -dao  name_of.iso'   _Do_Not_ use options like -pad or -data.
 For speed I suggest 1/3 of the lesser capability, your burner or 
 media speed.  My Plextor is 52x, media is 52x, so I use speed=16
 
 Actually I use an alias,
 alias biso='cdrecord -v -eject driveropts=burnfree speed=16 
 dev=ATA:1,1,0 -dao' 
 
 So simply 'biso name_of.iso' does the job!  ... and I always 
 check the md5sum of the burned CD.  As always, I disdain the use 
 of GUI apps for burning any kind of CD's, but particularly 
 for .iso images. Use the CL and you'll know exactly what is going 
 on. Y'allsMMV  ;)

I always use CLI to burn my CDs too.

cdrecord -v -eject speed=8 dev=1,0,0 -dao archivo.iso

What is new to me is the use of dev=ATA:1,0,0. I'll try it in next
burn. Using Mandrake 10 fully updated.

Thanks,

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Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1

2004-10-26 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 20:16, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 Thanks, H.J.

 Right now I'm a little reluctant to plug in my camera again, because
 it makes my 10.1 completely unusable.  If nothing else shows up, I
 may have to, and will let you know.

 lsmod doesn't show anything about a camera.

 And yes, KDE + Gnome + ICEwm + Windowmaker all runs amok after a
 camera is plugged in.  This is driving me crazy.

 Kaj Haulrich.

So telinit 3 into level 3 (you know the good ol' CML;))
and plug in whilst running tail -f /var/log/messages there and on another 
tty running mc (to try and read your device) and on yet another tty just 
logged in as root so you can telinit 1 into level 1 if things turn bad.

At least you'll know whether it's just the w-manager or not.

It can't be that bad.
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Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1

2004-10-26 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 19:58, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
 On Tuesday 26 October 2004 14:13, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
  Hello friends...
 
  Until I installed 10.1 CE my Olympus C740UZ worked like a charm
  : Just plugging it into an USB port popped up a harddisk icon
  on my desktop (be it KDE or Gnome) and I could copy, move,
  delete and one thing and another, just as another mass storage
  medium. I could even use the camera as another USB stick.
 
  But in 10.1 the thing goes crazy : plugging the camera into an
  USB port clutters the desktop with strange icons
  (xsane-blah-blah-blah), rearranges all other icons and never
  stops.
 
  Furthermore the CPU goes bananas.  Using top when in KDE
  shows kdeinit consuming 99% of the CPU cycles. In Gnome nothing
  shows in top, but nevertheless the system becomes almost
  unusable. Logging out/in doesn't remedy the problem, only a
  full reboot does.
 
  Strange thing is, /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab don't reveil
  anything concerning the matter.
 
  Do I really have to roll back to 10.0 ?
 
  Kaj Haulrich.

 I'm quit happy with 10.1, so (according to me)
 you shouldn't roll back.

 But Kaj,
 what do you get when running tail -f /var/log/messages when you
 plug in the device?
 That's where we should be looking as well as lsmod before
 and after plugging-in.

 Are these symptoms showing up in gnome as well as in KDE? You
 didn't mention;)

H.J. - Now I dared to connect my camera, but with the usual result :
my system went completely bezerk.  Here I the output 
from /var/log/messages :

Oct 26 21:05:45 0x50c63c55 kernel: usb 2-2: new full speed USB 
device using address 2
Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: SCSI subsystem initialized
Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage 
driver...
Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB 
Mass Storage devices
Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel:   Vendor: OLYMPUS   Model: C740UZ
Rev: 1.00
Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access  
ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: usbcore: registered new driver 
usb-storage
Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: USB Mass Storage support 
registered.
Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 scsi.agent[7050]: disk 
at /devices/pci:00/:00:10.1/usb2/2-2/2-2:1.0/host0/0:0:0:0
Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: SCSI device sda: 33554432 
512-byte hdwr sectors (17180 MB)
Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: sda: Write Protect is off
Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write 
through
Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 
kernel:  /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0:6usb 4-3: USB 
disconnect, address 2
Oct 26 21:05:47 0x50c63c55 kernel: usb 4-3: new high speed USB 
device using address 4
Oct 26 21:05:47 0x50c63c55 kernel: usb 4-3: USB disconnect, address 
4
Oct 26 21:05:47 0x50c63c55 kernel: usb 4-3: new high speed USB 
device using address 5
Oct 26 21:05:48 0x50c63c55 kernel: usb 4-3: USB disconnect, address 
5
Oct 26 21:05:48 0x50c63c55 kernel: usb 4-3: new high speed USB 
device using address 6
Oct 26 21:05:49 0x50c63c55 kernel: scsi0: ERROR on channel 0, id 0, 
lun 0, CDB: Read (10) 00 01 ff ff f8 00 00 08 00
Oct 26 21:05:49 0x50c63c55 kernel: Info fld=0x1f8, Current sda: 
sense key Medium Error
Oct 26 21:05:49 0x50c63c55 kernel: Additional sense: Unrecovered 
read error
Oct 26 21:05:49 0x50c63c55 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sda, 
sector 33554424
Oct 26 21:05:49 0x50c63c55 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, 
logical block 4194303
Oct 26 21:05:49 0x50c63c55 scannerdrake[7479]: ### Program is 
starting ###
Oct 26 21:05:49 0x50c63c55 kernel: usb 4-3: USB disconnect, address 
6
Oct 26 21:05:49 0x50c63c55 kernel: usb 4-3: new high speed USB 
device using address 7
Oct 26 21:05:49 0x50c63c55 kernel: usb 4-3: USB disconnect, address 
7
Oct 26 21:05:50 0x50c63c55 kernel: usb 4-3: new high speed USB 
device using address 8
Oct 26 21:05:51 0x50c63c55 scannerdrake[7597]: ### Program is 
starting ###

.And it goes on and on forever.

Furthermore, lsmod mentiones nothing about a camera.

Can you decipher that ?

Thanks in advance...

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Re: [newbie] Comparing md5sums in 10.0

2004-10-26 Thread John Richard Smith
Adolfo Bello wrote:

I always use CLI to burn my CDs too.
cdrecord -v -eject speed=8 dev=1,0,0 -dao archivo.iso
What is new to me is the use of dev=ATA:1,0,0. I'll try it in next
burn. Using Mandrake 10 fully updated.
Thanks,
Adolfo
 

dev=ATA:1,0,0  is only for the 2.6 kernels
where the devices are set up as ATA devices.
dev=1,0,0 is for most 2.4 kernels 
where the device is scsi-emulated.

I use much the same cdrecord Cl as you.
Whilst I'm not against the GUI front ends,
when it comes to burning ISO's to disc I prefer the CL.
For one thing you get a good script to see what is 
really going on.Otherwise when things go wrong you
don't know why.

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Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1

2004-10-26 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 21:13, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 Can you decipher that ?

 Thanks in advance...

 Kaj Haulrich.

Not realy, except that it's disconnecting and reconnecting...but why it's 
doing that, dunno:(

Did you try supermount -i disable so as to be sure it's not creating this 
muck?
what surprises me is the size of /dev/sda ( 17180 MB).is your camera 
really that big or is it some other scsi device getting in the way ?
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Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1

2004-10-26 Thread Rob Blomquist
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 12:13 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:

 H.J. - Now I dared to connect my camera, but with the usual result :
 my system went completely bezerk.  Here I the output
 from /var/log/messages :

 Oct 26 21:05:45 0x50c63c55 kernel: usb 2-2: new full speed USB
 device using address 2
 Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: SCSI subsystem initialized
 Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage
 driver...
 Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB
 Mass Storage devices
 Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel:   Vendor: OLYMPUS   Model: C740UZ
 Rev: 1.00
 Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access
 ANSI SCSI revision: 02
 Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: usbcore: registered new driver
 usb-storage
 Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: USB Mass Storage support
 registered.

 .And it goes on and on forever.

 Furthermore, lsmod mentiones nothing about a camera.
There is no camera listed by lsmod, as your camera is seen as a hard drive, 
nothing more. See up above about the USB Mass Storage support.

Mine is too. That is normal for many cameras on the market. 

What happens if you disable supermount with a supermount disable command at 
root? 

There is also another tool like supermount that installs with Gnome, but I 
forget what it is. I uninstalled it long ago.

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Re: [newbie] Hard disk clone

2004-10-26 Thread Jack
On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 11:08 +0100, John Richard Smith wrote:

 Power Quest drive image , a comercial drive image programme, can do 
 almost everything except some of the linux file systems, like reiserf. 
 It can certainly handle resizing well.
 

Norton Ghost ver.9 (actually Drive Image since Symantec took it over)
does this as well.  As does Paragon Drive Backup (the best of the bunch
IMHO) and Acronis True Image.  Paragon will backup and restore Linux
drives as well as NTFS...

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Re: [newbie] Hard disk clone

2004-10-26 Thread Jack
On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 07:11 -0400, Bryan Phinney wrote:

 Paragon Hard Drive Manager will handle Linux file systems, including reiserfs 
 and does pretty much the same thing as most other commercial drive image 
 programs.
 
 If you have to go commercial that is.
 
Paragon also has an Image explorer (PE explorer) which can double as a
file manager that can operate on Linux or Windows files while in
Windows.  It can copy and delete files in both operating systems during
the same session.

One final note... though this is a Windows program, it's recovery CD
boots and operates under Linux...

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Re: [newbie] Comparing md5sums in 10.0

2004-10-26 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 20:23 +0100, John Richard Smith wrote:
 dev=ATA:1,0,0  is only for the 2.6 kernels
 where the devices are set up as ATA devices.
 
 dev=1,0,0 is for most 2.4 kernels 
 where the device is scsi-emulated.
 
 I use much the same cdrecord Cl as you.
 
 Whilst I'm not against the GUI front ends,
 when it comes to burning ISO's to disc I prefer the CL.
 For one thing you get a good script to see what is 
 really going on.Otherwise when things go wrong you
 don't know why.
 
 John

What calls my attention is that I've been using kernel 2.6.3 for about 8
months, and have burned tons of CDs with it without using the ATA thing.
I suspect it has something to do with the fact that I use an external
USB DVD/RW drive.

BTW, nice trick your way of checking md5sums. Good to have it at hand.

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Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1

2004-10-26 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 21:40, Rob Blomquist wrote:
 On Tuesday 26 October 2004 12:13 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
  H.J. - Now I dared to connect my camera, but with the usual
  result : my system went completely bezerk.  Here I the output
  from /var/log/messages :
 
  Oct 26 21:05:45 0x50c63c55 kernel: usb 2-2: new full speed USB
  device using address 2
  Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: SCSI subsystem initialized
  Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: Initializing USB Mass
  Storage driver...
  Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: scsi0 : SCSI emulation for
  USB Mass Storage devices
  Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel:   Vendor: OLYMPUS   Model:
  C740UZ Rev: 1.00
  Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access
  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
  Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: usbcore: registered new
  driver usb-storage
  Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: USB Mass Storage support
  registered.
 
  .And it goes on and on forever.
 
  Furthermore, lsmod mentiones nothing about a camera.

 There is no camera listed by lsmod, as your camera is seen as a
 hard drive, nothing more. See up above about the USB Mass Storage
 support.

 Mine is too. That is normal for many cameras on the market.

 What happens if you disable supermount with a supermount
 disable command at root?

 There is also another tool like supermount that installs with
 Gnome, but I forget what it is. I uninstalled it long ago.

 Rob

Well, to answer H.J. and Rob :

No, of course my camera doesn't hold 17 GB (!) - only 128 MB.

It took me a while to post this,  because I had to reboot 4 times in 
order to get rid of all those strange icons and calm down my CPU a 
little.

I tried supermount -i disable with no succes, and I removed 
magicdev as well. No changes, still this camera (or is it the xD 
card in it ?) haunts my system.  I even tried to connect it to my 
daughters Windows-box in order to check if the card was defunct, 
which it isn't (and the camera screen works O.K.).

To me this seems like a USB malfunction.  I tried to add the camera 
to /etc/fstab with different settings, like sda0 and sda1, umask=0, 
noauto, user etc.. etcStill no go.

Ghost in the machine ??? --- Aliens from outer space ???

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Re: [newbie] HELP - Absolutely cannot update

2004-10-26 Thread Margot
Jack wrote:
On Mon, 2004-10-25 at 21:47 +0100, Margot wrote:
Community versions of Mandrake do not have updates or update 
source media - the updates are contained in the media which you 
have already added as sources.

To obtain the updates, instead of using the GUI you must use urpmi.
Open a root terminal,  give the following command:
urpmi.update -a --no-md5sum  urpmi --auto-select
This will update all your media, and show you a list of updated 
versions of any packages you have installed.

Thanks Margot... this seems to have done it.  So this means that I can't
use the drakes to update, right?
- Jack
Once the Official version of 10.1 is released, you can delete your 
Community sources, go back yo easyurpmi, install Official 
sources, and you will be able to use the drakes from then on...if 
you really want to.

Of course, by then you will be so accustomed to using urpmi that you 
probably won't need to use the drakes ever again! To become an 
expert urpmi user, look here:

http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/UsingUrpmi
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Re: [newbie] OT: A Virus Plague

2004-10-26 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 23 Oct 2004 12:27, Erylon Hines wrote:
 I just put them in my missed_spam folder and run an sa-learn on them (I
 use spamassassin as my spam filter).  After I did that a few times, 90+% of
 them are tagged as spam and go to the trash.  Worked for those bounced
 virus messages from mail servers, too.

I use PopFile, and as a matter of interest some time ago I started to collect 
virused emails into a separate folder (PF labels them virused, and KMail 
filters them to the folder).  On the rare occasions that one escapes PF's 
notice, it re-classify it then delete it, but keep the other, quarantined, 
mails so that I can use them as a teaching resource to inform win users.

This month looks like being a bumper month.  I have 41 dated this month in my 
folder so far.

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Re: [newbie] virus

2004-10-26 Thread Tom Karen Pino

Russell W. Behne wrote:
Friday at 18:39, Tom  Karen Pino wrote:
 

To anyone this may concern,
I received this notice from my ISP today.
A message which was sent to you by Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] has been
identified by our virus filter as being contaminated with a virus. For
your protection, the original message has been placed into the
greymail quarantine area. To review the text only portion of the
message, you may log into your greymail area and click on the
message(s) in red.
I do not know that this has to do with Russell W. Behne, but I also
get things that claim to come from me inspite of increased security at
rangeweb and constant attention to security by my security guy (me) to
virus and spyware crap (have never had a virus).  The subject line is
Re: Hello.
SNIP 
   

Hi Tom,
	No, that message isn't from me. I never use the word `Hello' on
the Subject: line. Someone obviously spoofed my email address. If you
can bounce a copy to me I'd appreciate it. And if anyone knows how to
find out who actually did it, and how to get even with them, I'd
appreciate that too.
 

Russ,
I was sure that this was spoofing.  Most of the crap that we get is.  
The perp probably gets the names from the archives.

Sorry, I can't send a copy as the ISP will not even let me look at this 
stuff.  The little I can see is also limited by my security system so I 
just delete the stuff.

I, too, would love to know how to trace these things and perhaps send 
them a present.
Tom



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Re: [newbie] virus

2004-10-26 Thread Tom Karen Pino

Russell W. Behne wrote:
Saturday at 21:06, Randall D. Hobbs wrote:
 

Yeah, you're right there. I've had people email me asking why I sent them a 
virus... I only had to say I'm running Linux, so I can't send you a virus. 
That and check out the headers - that's what tells the truth. I recently 
had about 10 viruses come into my inbox, and the funny thing is, they were 
all supposed to be FROM me TO me. Doing a little checking, I found out that 
one of my contacts had gotten a virus, and of course it was spoofing 
everything. What happens is, the virus raids their address book, and randomly 
sends out viruses to everyone in that address book, and it picks a random 
user from the address book to spoof from. It took all of about 30 seconds to 
figure out where it was coming from - I ended up going over to her office and 
cleaning up the system, and the emails disappeared. Funny how that works...
   

How can you know exactly who it came from? I realize that such mostly
comes from infected windoze boxes, and I'm thinking that someone out
there who has my email in their address book has a virus which has been
spoofing my address, like the one Tom  Karen Pino got. The question is
who?
 

I would like to know this too.  I keep getting things from our address 
and I know that it cannot be from this computer.  We have to use a 
password that is changed regularly to send to the ISP.  This is not kept 
on the computer as I am too paranoid.
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Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1

2004-10-26 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 22:14, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 Ghost in the machine ??? --- Aliens from outer space ???

 Kaj Haulrich.

Trust you to find a white raven:(
... ---
Naah, just kidding;)

There's something very wrong on the way this USB device initiates and the 
kernel reacts.
Alas, I'm not knowledgeable enough to answer this off-hand nor do I have the 
time to find out:(
I'd like to, though...love a challenge any day;)
Surely there's some alias function there for you but I don't know 
it..dang

I frankly haven't tried my own camera on 10.1 yet but I did connect an 
acquaintance's (horrible word, heh) camerawhich IIRC didn't quite do as 
it should've, i.e. required some CML mumbojumbo (that's what they called it, 
anyway).

Maybe somebody else'll chip in..!!!
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Re: [newbie] virus

2004-10-26 Thread Tom Karen Pino

Tom  Karen Pino wrote:

Russell W. Behne wrote:
Friday at 18:39, Tom  Karen Pino wrote:
 

To anyone this may concern,
I received this notice from my ISP today.
A message which was sent to you by Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] has been
identified by our virus filter as being contaminated with a virus. For
your protection, the original message has been placed into the
greymail quarantine area. To review the text only portion of the
message, you may log into your greymail area and click on the
message(s) in red.
I do not know that this has to do with Russell W. Behne, but I also
get things that claim to come from me inspite of increased security at
rangeweb and constant attention to security by my security guy (me) to
virus and spyware crap (have never had a virus).  The subject line is
Re: Hello.
SNIP   

Hi Tom,
No, that message isn't from me. I never use the word `Hello' on
the Subject: line. Someone obviously spoofed my email address. If you
can bounce a copy to me I'd appreciate it. And if anyone knows how to
find out who actually did it, and how to get even with them, I'd
appreciate that too.
 

Russ,
I was sure that this was spoofing.  Most of the crap that we get is.  
The perp probably gets the names from the archives.

Sorry, I can't send a copy as the ISP will not even let me look at 
this stuff.  The little I can see is also limited by my security 
system so I just delete the stuff.

I, too, would love to know how to trace these things and perhaps send 
them a present.
Tom
I just got another one.  Later I will call the ISP and see if I can get 
the thing forwarded here.  Nothing that they will allow me to see is of 
any use.  I just get a message that  This message contains inline 
images or attachments, and can not be displayed from this interface.  
They will not forward virus containing messages to my inbox.
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Re: [newbie] virus

2004-10-26 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 23:15, Tom  Karen Pino wrote:
 I, too, would love to know how to trace these things and perhaps send
 them a present.
 
Don't even try! It would double the (negative) effect of exactly that what it 
is trying to douse up our bandwidth and incriminate non-M$ peoples.

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Re: [newbie] Hard disk clone

2004-10-26 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 21:53, Jack wrote:
 On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 11:08 +0100, John Richard Smith wrote:
  Power Quest drive image , a comercial drive image programme, can do
  almost everything except some of the linux file systems, like reiserf.
  It can certainly handle resizing well.

 Norton Ghost ver.9 (actually Drive Image since Symantec took it over)
 does this as well.  As does Paragon Drive Backup (the best of the bunch
 IMHO) and Acronis True Image.  Paragon will backup and restore Linux
 drives as well as NTFS...

 - Jack

Gads Are you guys really that addicted to mouse-clicks?

Type in 4 short commands and it's all done whereas you lot are installing all 
sorts of not 100% or faulty gui's and clicking all over the screen (at 
least  a100 times or more) with no result at all.

Don't let the machine take over: Take over the machinethis is 
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Re: [newbie] virus

2004-10-26 Thread Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 22:19, Tom  Karen Pino wrote:
 Russell W. Behne wrote:
 Saturday at 21:06, Randall D. Hobbs wrote:
 Yeah, you're right there. I've had people email me asking why I sent them
  a virus... I only had to say I'm running Linux, so I can't send you a
  virus. That and check out the headers - that's what tells the truth.
  I recently had about 10 viruses come into my inbox, and the funny thing
  is, they were all supposed to be FROM me TO me. Doing a little checking,
  I found out that one of my contacts had gotten a virus, and of course it
  was spoofing everything. What happens is, the virus raids their address
  book, and randomly sends out viruses to everyone in that address book,
  and it picks a random user from the address book to spoof from. It took
  all of about 30 seconds to figure out where it was coming from - I ended
  up going over to her office and cleaning up the system, and the emails
  disappeared. Funny how that works...
 
 How can you know exactly who it came from? I realize that such mostly
 comes from infected windoze boxes, and I'm thinking that someone out
 there who has my email in their address book has a virus which has been
 spoofing my address, like the one Tom  Karen Pino got. The question is
 who?

 I would like to know this too.  I keep getting things from our address
 and I know that it cannot be from this computer.  We have to use a
 password that is changed regularly to send to the ISP.  This is not kept
 on the computer as I am too paranoid.
 Tom

There is no point trying. The From  address of an email is entirely the 
choice of the sender. You could put anything in there and the mail server 
would accept it. To find the originator you must look at the IP address in 
the headers. But the sender is almost invariably a Trojanned Windows user, or 
someone in China (apologies to Chinese readers) who simply does not care.
The spammers/virus writers have robots that 'scrape' mailing lists like this 
one for valid email addresses, and put them in their Trojanned slaves both as 
senders and recipients. That is why I use a special email identity just for 
this list. Any mail coming to this identity gets immediately sent 
to /dev/null . At the moment I get about 300 a day.
Get yourself a good spam filter. Of course a virus filter is unnecessary.
(But I still use one because it amuses me to see how many viruses get thrown 
my way)

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Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1

2004-10-26 Thread Aron Smith
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 01:14 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 On Tuesday 26 October 2004 21:40, Rob Blomquist wrote:
  On Tuesday 26 October 2004 12:13 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
   H.J. - Now I dared to connect my camera, but with the usual
   result : my system went completely bezerk.  Here I the output
   from /var/log/messages :
  
   Oct 26 21:05:45 0x50c63c55 kernel: usb 2-2: new full speed USB
   device using address 2
   Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: SCSI subsystem initialized
   Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: Initializing USB Mass
   Storage driver...
   Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: scsi0 : SCSI emulation for
   USB Mass Storage devices
   Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel:   Vendor: OLYMPUS   Model:
   C740UZ Rev: 1.00
   Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access
   ANSI SCSI revision: 02
   Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: usbcore: registered new
   driver usb-storage
   Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: USB Mass Storage support
   registered.
  
   .And it goes on and on forever.
  
   Furthermore, lsmod mentiones nothing about a camera.
 
  There is no camera listed by lsmod, as your camera is seen as a
  hard drive, nothing more. See up above about the USB Mass Storage
  support.
 
  Mine is too. That is normal for many cameras on the market.
 
  What happens if you disable supermount with a supermount
  disable command at root?
 
  There is also another tool like supermount that installs with
  Gnome, but I forget what it is. I uninstalled it long ago.
 
  Rob

 Well, to answer H.J. and Rob :

 No, of course my camera doesn't hold 17 GB (!) - only 128 MB.

 It took me a while to post this,  because I had to reboot 4 times in
 order to get rid of all those strange icons and calm down my CPU a
 little.

 I tried supermount -i disable with no succes, and I removed
 magicdev as well. No changes, still this camera (or is it the xD
 card in it ?) haunts my system.  I even tried to connect it to my
 daughters Windows-box in order to check if the card was defunct,
 which it isn't (and the camera screen works O.K.).

 To me this seems like a USB malfunction.  I tried to add the camera
 to /etc/fstab with different settings, like sda0 and sda1, umask=0,
 noauto, user etc.. etcStill no go.

 Ghost in the machine ??? --- Aliens from outer space ???

 Kaj Haulrich.
Do you have FLPhoto and GTKam installed?

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Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1

2004-10-26 Thread Aron Smith
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 02:50 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
 On Tuesday 26 October 2004 22:14, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
  Ghost in the machine ??? --- Aliens from outer space ???
 
  Kaj Haulrich.

 Trust you to find a white raven:(
 ... ---
 Naah, just kidding;)

 There's something very wrong on the way this USB device initiates and the
 kernel reacts.
 Alas, I'm not knowledgeable enough to answer this off-hand nor do I have
 the time to find out:(
 I'd like to, though...love a challenge any day;)
 Surely there's some alias function there for you but I don't know
 it..dang

 I frankly haven't tried my own camera on 10.1 yet but I did connect an
 acquaintance's (horrible word, heh) camerawhich IIRC didn't quite do as
 it should've, i.e. required some CML mumbojumbo (that's what they called
 it, anyway).

 Maybe somebody else'll chip in..!!!
My Cannon  400 works like a champ under 10.1 no problems

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Re: [newbie] virus

2004-10-26 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:52:03 +0200
Alexander Ruoff disseminated the following:

  How can you know exactly who it came from? I realize that such mostly
  comes from infected windoze boxes, and I'm thinking that someone out
  there who has my email in their address book has a virus which has been
  spoofing my address, like the one Tom  Karen Pino got. The question is
  who?
 
 I remember that under Windows 98 I had a tracing program with which I
 could follow the trace of the email or even an web-address with a nice
 graphical output, showing from which pc the mail was send or where the
 website was hosted. Don't know if such a program exists for linux as
 well.

I remember that! I used to snag IP's from BlackIce, people who were scanning for
trojans, then use another program to send them the 'ping of death' (back when
that still worked). It was fun watching their ping go flying up to 999 and then
*poof*, they were gone. Ah, the good ol' days :-)

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Re: [newbie] movie player

2004-10-26 Thread rabellan

not yet,  i just simply used totem player
but if Xine is much better then, i would greatly appreciate if you can give
me infos about configuration.

thanks...



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Re: [newbie] virus

2004-10-26 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 17:15, Tom  Karen Pino wrote:

 Russ,
 I was sure that this was spoofing.  Most of the crap that we get is.
 The perp probably gets the names from the archives.

Consider asking your ISP to implement Sender Policy Framework.  It effectively 
nullifies the ability of viruses or spammers to spoof.

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Re: [newbie] HELP - Absolutely cannot update

2004-10-26 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 25 October 2004 10:19 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
  Thanks Margot... this seems to have done it.  So this means that I can't
  use the drakes to update, right?
 
  - Jack

 There is a problem with the hdlists on the 10.1 mirrors right now too.  
 Messages have been posted to Cooker about this, and I hope it will be fixed
 soon.

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[newbie] Need some help with updating.

2004-10-26 Thread Michael Theel
I am running Mandrake Community 10 and I'm having a problem when I try
to do updates from the Mandrake Control Center. No matter with mirror
I goto it says that the hdlist has failed to download. Why is this?

Thanks in advance for your help.
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Re: [newbie] virus

2004-10-26 Thread Tom Karen Pino

Tom  Karen Pino wrote:

Russell W. Behne wrote:
Hi Tom,
No, that message isn't from me. I never use the word `Hello' on
the Subject: line. Someone obviously spoofed my email address. If you
can bounce a copy to me I'd appreciate it. And if anyone knows how to
find out who actually did it, and how to get even with them, I'd
appreciate that too.
 

Russ,
I was sure that this was spoofing.  Most of the crap that we get is.  
The perp probably gets the names from the archives.

Sorry, I can't send a copy as the ISP will not even let me look at 
this stuff.  The little I can see is also limited by my security 
system so I just delete the stuff.

I, too, would love to know how to trace these things and perhaps send 
them a present.
Tom
Called rangeweb.net.  They may be able to forward this stuff but not 
from the help desk.  I wasn't real thrilled at the idea of having on my 
machine anyway.  I doubt that it would have caused me a problem.  Tried 
to update virus protection and am already up to date with norton.

I did, by the way, mention SPF and gave them the pobox address.  Never 
heard of it (nor had I).  Hopefully they will forward that to whomever 
needs to look at it.  Sound good to me as far as my 10 minutes of 
looking goes.
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Re: [newbie] Need some help with updating.

2004-10-26 Thread Rob Blomquist
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 6:35 pm, Michael Theel wrote:
 I am running Mandrake Community 10 and I'm having a problem when I try
 to do updates from the Mandrake Control Center. No matter with mirror
 I goto it says that the hdlist has failed to download. Why is this?

Many sites are pretty flakey to download from regularily. I suggest that you 
just try another FTP site to update from, then things may work well. And if 
you test it with Konqeror or any other FTP program, you will learn how fast 
it is before you commit.

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Re: [newbie] Comparing md5sums in 10.0

2004-10-26 Thread Miark
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:09:07 -0500, Tom wrote:

   Yes, but in newer Mandrake versions the CD drives are seen 
 as dev=ATA:0,0,0   I use 0,0,0 for example only, 
 'cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus'  will return the actual numbers.  The 
 ATA device (burner) is linked to the numbers. EG, on my system 
 dev=ATA:1,1,0  = /dev/hdd So 'md5sum /dev/hdd' returns the 
 md5sum on the CD.
 
  BUT, it will not be correct unless you use the -dao option 
 when burning the iso to CD.  I burn on the CL using,
 'cdrecord -v -eject driveropts=burnfree speed=16 dev=ATA:1,1,0 
 -dao  name_of.iso'  

Hi Tom,

At your suggestion, I tried using the following cdrecord command:
cdrecord -v -dao dev=ATA:1,0,0 speed=8 gracetime=2 driveropts=burnfree
but the md5sums of the ISO file and /dev/hdc were still different.

Any other thoughts? 

Miark


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