Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 00:26, Aron Smith wrote: On Tuesday 26 October 2004 01:14 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Tuesday 26 October 2004 21:40, Rob Blomquist wrote: On Tuesday 26 October 2004 12:13 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: H.J. - Now I dared to connect my camera, but with the usual result : my system went completely bezerk. Here I the output from /var/log/messages : Oct 26 21:05:45 0x50c63c55 kernel: usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using address 2 Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: SCSI subsystem initialized Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: Vendor: OLYMPUS Model: C740UZ Rev: 1.00 Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered. .And it goes on and on forever. Furthermore, lsmod mentiones nothing about a camera. There is no camera listed by lsmod, as your camera is seen as a hard drive, nothing more. See up above about the USB Mass Storage support. Mine is too. That is normal for many cameras on the market. What happens if you disable supermount with a supermount disable command at root? There is also another tool like supermount that installs with Gnome, but I forget what it is. I uninstalled it long ago. Rob Well, to answer H.J. and Rob : No, of course my camera doesn't hold 17 GB (!) - only 128 MB. It took me a while to post this, because I had to reboot 4 times in order to get rid of all those strange icons and calm down my CPU a little. I tried supermount -i disable with no succes, and I removed magicdev as well. No changes, still this camera (or is it the xD card in it ?) haunts my system. I even tried to connect it to my daughters Windows-box in order to check if the card was defunct, which it isn't (and the camera screen works O.K.). To me this seems like a USB malfunction. I tried to add the camera to /etc/fstab with different settings, like sda0 and sda1, umask=0, noauto, user etc.. etcStill no go. Ghost in the machine ??? --- Aliens from outer space ??? Kaj Haulrich. Do you have FLPhoto and GTKam installed? Yes, both. And Digikam. They are all unusable because just plugging the camera into the USB port immidiately puts my CPU in overdrive, which means that it is 99% busy cluttering my screen with infinite numbers of incomprehensible icons. Those icons seem to be related to xsane and are named something like /proc/bus/usb/004/xxx (where xxx goes ad infinitum). Even in runlevel 3 i can see the process going on (in /var/log/messages). The system connects/disconnects its USB device until hell freezes over or I reboot. As a last resort I re-installed 10.1 CE from scratch, copied nothing back from my backup CDs, updated available rpms and tried anew. Still staring at my runaway box. I have reached the point of considering a switch to some other distro, maybe Fedora or Debian. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:13, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Even in runlevel 3 i can see the process going on (in /var/log/messages). The system connects/disconnects its USB device until hell freezes over or I reboot. As a last resort I re-installed 10.1 CE from scratch, copied nothing back from my backup CDs, updated available rpms and tried anew. Still staring at my runaway box. I have reached the point of considering a switch to some other distro, maybe Fedora or Debian. Well, at the risk of sounding obvious, I would venture there's something up with the kernel v2.6.8 usb drivers and your camera, and not anything to do with the desktop or apps. You could try installing and booting an earlier kernel, like whatever the last one for 10.0 was (2.6.3?), or worse yet try the 2.4 kernel that comes with 10.1 . Just install them in addition to the current 2.6.8 kernel, reboot into one of them, and see if they behave any better. Or it could be udev, which is new to 10.1 for managing devices in place of devfs. You could try reverting to using devfs under the 2.6.8 kernel. Just go into the lilo config in mcc and modify the boot options to remove the devfs=nomount part, reboot and watch for the message that udev is disabled due to devfs being used, then try your luck. In fact, try this first before you try any other kernels, I have a hunch it might work, if it doesn't then it definately is kernel usb driver problems. If none of this works, and even if you decide to change distros, please file a bug report with Mandrake so they can fix it for other people, including whatever distro you move to :-) Cheers! John. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 10:18, John Layt wrote: On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:13, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Even in runlevel 3 i can see the process going on (in /var/log/messages). The system connects/disconnects its USB device until hell freezes over or I reboot. As a last resort I re-installed 10.1 CE from scratch, copied nothing back from my backup CDs, updated available rpms and tried anew. Still staring at my runaway box. I have reached the point of considering a switch to some other distro, maybe Fedora or Debian. Well, at the risk of sounding obvious, I would venture there's something up with the kernel v2.6.8 usb drivers and your camera, and not anything to do with the desktop or apps. You could try installing and booting an earlier kernel, like whatever the last one for 10.0 was (2.6.3?), or worse yet try the 2.4 kernel that comes with 10.1 . Just install them in addition to the current 2.6.8 kernel, reboot into one of them, and see if they behave any better. Or it could be udev, which is new to 10.1 for managing devices in place of devfs. You could try reverting to using devfs under the 2.6.8 kernel. Just go into the lilo config in mcc and modify the boot options to remove the devfs=nomount part, reboot and watch for the message that udev is disabled due to devfs being used, then try your luck. In fact, try this first before you try any other kernels, I have a hunch it might work, if it doesn't then it definately is kernel usb driver problems. If none of this works, and even if you decide to change distros, please file a bug report with Mandrake so they can fix it for other people, including whatever distro you move to :-) Thank you, John. You certainly are on the right track. Before I re-installed 10.1 CE I actually tried to install the 10.0 kernel (2.6.3 something). During that process I noticed something I never saw before : some messages about reconfiguring something (scrolled by too fast for reading). Hereafter I tried to reboot into that kernel with the devastating result that my filesystem (ReiserFS) borked completely. No rescue - attempt possible, be it from the install CDs, MandrakeMove or Knoppix. That forced the complete re-install of 10.1 CE. Now, I experimented a little bit further : I unplugged my scanner (which is connected to another USB port), re-connected the camera and you know what ? : up popped the good old harddisk icon on my screen with all my photos in it. Swell. At the same time I noticed that my fstab had changed, added a line like : /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera auto umask=0022,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,kudzu,codepage=850,noauto,exec,users 0 0 which seems strange to me, because I thought I was the only root here allowed to edit that file. After a new reboot, that line was removed from fstab again. So, obviously the USB/devfs/udev is behaving somewhat, unable to segregate between the scanner and the camera. I'll try to follow your advice strictly, performing a gradual lobectomy to lilo.conf's append line. I really would hate to switch distro because of this minor problem. BTW : How to file a bug report to Mandrake ??? Thanks again for your excellent ideas, John. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 10:18, John Layt wrote: On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:13, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Even in runlevel 3 i can see the process going on (in /var/log/messages). The system connects/disconnects its USB device until hell freezes over or I reboot. As a last resort I re-installed 10.1 CE from scratch, copied nothing back from my backup CDs, updated available rpms and tried anew. Still staring at my runaway box. I have reached the point of considering a switch to some other distro, maybe Fedora or Debian. Well, at the risk of sounding obvious, I would venture there's something up with the kernel v2.6.8 usb drivers and your camera, and not anything to do with the desktop or apps. You could try installing and booting an earlier kernel, like whatever the last one for 10.0 was (2.6.3?), or worse yet try the 2.4 kernel that comes with 10.1 . Just install them in addition to the current 2.6.8 kernel, reboot into one of them, and see if they behave any better. Or it could be udev, which is new to 10.1 for managing devices in place of devfs. You could try reverting to using devfs under the 2.6.8 kernel. Just go into the lilo config in mcc and modify the boot options to remove the devfs=nomount part, reboot and watch for the message that udev is disabled due to devfs being used, then try your luck. In fact, try this first before you try any other kernels, I have a hunch it might work, if it doesn't then it definately is kernel usb driver problems. If none of this works, and even if you decide to change distros, please file a bug report with Mandrake so they can fix it for other people, including whatever distro you move to :-) Thanks, John. Obviously you are on the right track here. Actually, my re-install of 10.1 CE was forced by a install of the older kernel from 10.0 (2.6.3 something) which completely borked my system beyond recovery : no succes from rescue with the install CDs, MandrakeMove or Knoppix. After the new install I notice that plugging my camera into the USB port changes my fstab (???), adding a line : /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera auto umask=0022,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,kudzu,codepage=850,noauto,exec,users 0 0 and that line disappears after a reboot. Strange. So now, I'll follow your advice strictly, gradually performing a lobectomy to the append line in lilo.conf. I am in no way opposed to mounting things manually. And I would really hate to switch distro because of this - after all - minor problem. BTW : how to report a bug to Mandrake ?? Again, thanks for your good input, John. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Comparing md5sums in 10.0
Miark wrote: On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:09:07 -0500, Tom wrote: Yes, but in newer Mandrake versions the CD drives are seen as dev=ATA:0,0,0 I use 0,0,0 for example only, 'cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus' will return the actual numbers. The ATA device (burner) is linked to the numbers. EG, on my system dev=ATA:1,1,0 = /dev/hdd So 'md5sum /dev/hdd' returns the md5sum on the CD. BUT, it will not be correct unless you use the -dao option when burning the iso to CD. I burn on the CL using, 'cdrecord -v -eject driveropts=burnfree speed=16 dev=ATA:1,1,0 -dao name_of.iso' Hi Tom, At your suggestion, I tried using the following cdrecord command: cdrecord -v -dao dev=ATA:1,0,0 speed=8 gracetime=2 driveropts=burnfree but the md5sums of the ISO file and /dev/hdc were still different. Any other thoughts? Miark gracetime=# Set the grace time before starting to write to # seconds. Values below 2 seconds are not allowed. I bet that changes the md5sum ??? John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Comparing md5sums in 10.0
Adolfo Bello wrote: On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 10:18 +0100, John Richard Smith wrote: Then, making sure the CD you just burned isn't mounted: in terminal, dd if=/dev/scd0 bs=2048 count=n | md5sum - (note the - on the end, don't leave it off. change the /dev/scd0 to whatever device setting your drive is on your system. and where n is the number of sectors calculated above. All 3 md5sums should agree, ie, the published, your iso file, and the CD. If they don't agree you have either a duff write, or duff iso file. Hope this helps you, John `md5sum /dev/scd0` works fine here, no matter if the CD is mounted or not. Adolfo It can work, but not always, it depends upon how the CD was written in the first place. How the device is set up to be mounted. John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004, Kaj Haulrich wrote: As a last resort I re-installed 10.1 CE from scratch, copied nothing back from my backup CDs, updated available rpms and tried anew. Still staring at my runaway box. I have reached the point of considering a switch to some other distro, maybe Fedora or Debian. You might try disabling harddrake and hotplug, as part of your testing. This would also help you tell whether it's the kernel or other apps dragging the box down. chkconfig --del harddrake (this will disable probing for new devices at boot) chkconfig --del hotplug (this will disable anything from running at the insertion of the device) Now you may need to modprobe appropriate modules to make the device visible in dmesg. If the box still panics, then it's definitely the kernel. You can re-enable with 'chkconfig --add foo' (replace foo appropriately) -- Stew Benedict Mandrakesoft --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 14:13, Stew Benedict wrote: On Wed, 27 Oct 2004, Kaj Haulrich wrote: As a last resort I re-installed 10.1 CE from scratch, copied nothing back from my backup CDs, updated available rpms and tried anew. Still staring at my runaway box. I have reached the point of considering a switch to some other distro, maybe Fedora or Debian. You might try disabling harddrake and hotplug, as part of your testing. This would also help you tell whether it's the kernel or other apps dragging the box down. chkconfig --del harddrake (this will disable probing for new devices at boot) chkconfig --del hotplug (this will disable anything from running at the insertion of the device) Now you may need to modprobe appropriate modules to make the device visible in dmesg. If the box still panics, then it's definitely the kernel. You can re-enable with 'chkconfig --add foo' (replace foo appropriately) Thanks, Stew. I will try it ASAP. Things are a little slow here, what with the CPU constantly running at 99%. See you after next reboot. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] Apache and users cgi
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 11:16:40PM +0800, frankieh wrote: Todd Slater wrote: I am hosting a few sites for friends that need cgi access. I read something about cgi scripts shouldn't be in the web document root for security purposes--people being able to read them as text. I turned on cgi by adding the ExecCGI in Directory /home/*/public_html which if I understand is not secure? What's the standard practice for doing this with users and virtual hosts? Todd Create a cgi-bin directory in parallel to your docs direcory and make that the directory that is able to exec cgi scripts. Directory /home/*/cgi-bin and then use ScriptAlias to make it available: ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /home/*/cgi-bin That should get you on the right track. Thanks, Franki. I ended up having to add another line to httpd.conf to get it to work: ScriptAliasMatch ^/~([^/]*)/cgi-bin/(.*) /home/$1/cgi-bin/$2 Todd -- Name that tune #22: No caffeine, no protein, no booze or nicotine. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 14:29, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 14:13, Stew Benedict wrote:
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
As a last resort I re-installed 10.1 CE from scratch,
copied nothing back from my backup CDs, updated available
rpms and tried anew. Still staring at my runaway box.
I have reached the point of considering a switch to some
other distro, maybe Fedora or Debian.
You might try disabling harddrake and hotplug, as part of your
testing. This would also help you tell whether it's the kernel
or other apps dragging the box down.
chkconfig --del harddrake
(this will disable probing for new devices at boot)
chkconfig --del hotplug
(this will disable anything from running at the insertion of
the device)
Now you may need to modprobe appropriate modules to make the
device visible in dmesg.
If the box still panics, then it's definitely the kernel.
You can re-enable with 'chkconfig --add foo' (replace foo
appropriately)
Thanks, Stew. I will try it ASAP. Things are a little slow
here, what with the CPU constantly running at 99%. See you after
next reboot.
OK - removed harddrake and hotplug : no improvement. Here is my
modprobe.conf :
# This file is autogenerated from /etc/modules.conf using
generate-modprobe.conf command
alias eth0 via-rhine
alias sound-slot-0 snd-cmipci
install usb-interface /sbin/modprobe uhci-hcd; /sbin/modprobe
ehci-hcd; /bin/true
remove snd-cmipci /sbin/modprobe -r snd-pcm-oss; /sbin/modprobe
--first-time -r --ignore-remove snd-cmipci
install snd-cmipci /sbin/modprobe --first-time --ignore-install
snd-cmipci { /sbin/modprobe snd-pcm-oss; /bin/true; }
Which means next to nothing to me. But the USB interface seems to
work, and I can use my USB scanner perfectly. But no camera.
I have the feeling this is a kernel bug. Now, I have to reboot
again :-/
Kaj Haulrich.
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Re: [newbie] Comparing md5sums in 10.0
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:18:17 +0100, John wrote: ls -l iso image file Divide the size of the ISO image file by 2048 to get the number of sectors, and record that sum (=n, hereafter) If it comes out to a decimal, do I round up? Then, making sure the CD you just burned isn't mounted: Why not? The following command works regardless. in terminal, dd if=/dev/scd0 bs=2048 count=n | md5sum - (note the - on the end, don't leave it off. It still comes out different. Although I think I forgot to double-check the sectors written by cdrecord. Perhaps my burner is starting to lose its mind. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 13:56, Kaj Haulrich wrote: I have the feeling this is a kernel bug. Now, I have to reboot again :-/ After a few days' break I came back to this long thread. Out of curiosity I plugged my FujiFilm FinePix S304 into the one box that I have upgraded to 10.1. I had exactly the same experience - top showed cpu usage varying between 98% and 99.9%, and the only way out appeared to be a reboot - it certainly didn't respond to kill. The box in question has 10.1OE upgraded late last week from cooker, running 2.6.8-12 kernel (IIRC). Is there anything else you would like me to check for correlation? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Weird mouse behaviour after updating 10.1CE
Just finished doing an urpmi.update -a --no-md5sum urpmi -auto-select on a clean 10.1 CE install that I've been running since the weekend. Prior to the update my mouse worked perfectly, or at least as I wanted it - if I held it over a window and scrolled the middle button the window would scroll up and down, didn't have to click in the window or anything. Since the update this morning the only way I can get it to scroll within a window is to either hold down the middle button until it locks and then roll the mouse up and down or else click on the vertical scroll bars and drag them, very disconcerting. I'm running Gnome 2.6, haven't tested to see if this behaviour applies also to XFCE or not. The Gnome MCC mouse features dont' seem to have anything to help on this. The mouse is a USB MS Optical mouse, I also have a Synaptics touchpad on the laptop that works as it always did. Any ideas? ED Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Thunderbird and Firefox
What is the relationship between Mozilla and Firefox, and Mozilla-mail and Thuderbird. Are the latter going to eventually replace the former? And if if not, why are the Mozilla folks promoting competing products? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Thunderbird and Firefox
Miark wrote: What is the relationship between Mozilla and Firefox, and Mozilla-mail and Thuderbird. Are the latter going to eventually replace the former? And if if not, why are the Mozilla folks promoting competing products? Miark One ofthe complaints leveled against the mozilla suite, was feature bloat, speed etc. So they split up the apps.. moz mail became thunderbird, mozilla itself became firefox, the calander app became sunbird and so on. When all the stand alones are past ver 1.0, you will start to see them bundled together to become the new mozilla suite. They can't replace anything yet because the Firefox is the only app currently nearing ver 1.0 status. Rgds Franki Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 17:39, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 13:56, Kaj Haulrich wrote: I have the feeling this is a kernel bug. Now, I have to reboot again :-/ After a few days' break I came back to this long thread. Out of curiosity I plugged my FujiFilm FinePix S304 into the one box that I have upgraded to 10.1. I had exactly the same experience - top showed cpu usage varying between 98% and 99.9%, and the only way out appeared to be a reboot - it certainly didn't respond to kill. The box in question has 10.1OE upgraded late last week from cooker, running 2.6.8-12 kernel (IIRC). Is there anything else you would like me to check for correlation? Anne Although I feel sorry for you, Anne (being unable to use your camera) I'm somehow conforted that I'm not alone ! If I remember correctly, the Fuji uses the xD card, exactly as the Olympus. Can you use your scanner (or any USB device) after unplugging the camera ? What went wrong with 10.1 ??? Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 09:33 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Wednesday 27 October 2004 17:39, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 13:56, Kaj Haulrich wrote: I have the feeling this is a kernel bug. Now, I have to reboot again :-/ After a few days' break I came back to this long thread. Out of curiosity I plugged my FujiFilm FinePix S304 into the one box that I have upgraded to 10.1. I had exactly the same experience - top showed cpu usage varying between 98% and 99.9%, and the only way out appeared to be a reboot - it certainly didn't respond to kill. The box in question has 10.1OE upgraded late last week from cooker, running 2.6.8-12 kernel (IIRC). Is there anything else you would like me to check for correlation? Anne Although I feel sorry for you, Anne (being unable to use your camera) I'm somehow conforted that I'm not alone ! If I remember correctly, the Fuji uses the xD card, exactly as the Olympus. that would indicate that the problem lies with how MdK handles xD as opposed to SD cards Can you use your scanner (or any USB device) after unplugging the camera ? What went wrong with 10.1 ??? Kaj Haulrich. -- Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On October 27, 2004 10:33, Kaj Haulrich wrote: ... The box in question has 10.1OE upgraded late last week from cooker, running 2.6.8-12 kernel (IIRC). Is there anything else you would like me to check for correlation? ... What went wrong with 10.1 ??? Kaj Haulrich. Just saw this on Linux Today: Mandrakeliux 10.1 Official Released http://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2004102701526NWMDSW Might be worth downloading and doing a clean install (you've probably seen the oft-repeated advice that version upgrades are not recommended). If the problem is still there, you can report a bug at: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/ -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Thunderbird and Firefox
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 00:04:10 +0800, frankieh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Miark wrote: What is the relationship between Mozilla and Firefox, and Mozilla-mail and Thuderbird. Are the latter going to eventually replace the former? And if if not, why are the Mozilla folks promoting competing products? Miark One ofthe complaints leveled against the mozilla suite, was feature bloat, speed etc. So they split up the apps.. moz mail became thunderbird, mozilla itself became firefox, the calander app became sunbird and so on. When all the stand alones are past ver 1.0, you will start to see them bundled together to become the new mozilla suite. They can't replace anything yet because the Firefox is the only app currently nearing ver 1.0 status. Rgds Decent explanation, but it's important also to realize that they aren't competing against each other in the truest sense of the word. Advances in Firefox are brought into Mozilla and vice versa, even though it's typically Firefox that makes the advances. They are both built in the same rendering engine, so they are really more like siblings than competitors. Some people still want it as a suite. For more, it's sorta addressed in the firefox FAQ: http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/support/faq.html#q1.3 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 17:33, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Although I feel sorry for you, Anne (being unable to use your camera) I'm somehow conforted that I'm not alone ! ;-) It's not a big problem - yet! I don't need the camera on that box, but it certainly tells me not to install on box2 as I had intended, until this is sorted out. My main reason for reporting this was to support you, tell you that you are not alone. If I remember correctly, the Fuji uses the xD card, exactly as the Olympus. It does. Can you use your scanner (or any USB device) after unplugging the camera ? To be truthful, I didn't try. With the cpu at 99.9% I couldn't even get Konsole as far as the prompt, so I gave up and rebooted. What went wrong with 10.1 ??? Indeed! There were some problems with usb in 10.0, I understand, although I was not affected. This seems very much worse. Have you posted a bug report yet? If so, I should add to it rather than starting a new one. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 17:52, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: Just saw this on Linux Today: Mandrakeliux 10.1 Official Released http://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2004102701526NWMDSW Might be worth downloading and doing a clean install (you've probably seen the oft-repeated advice that version upgrades are not recommended). If the problem is still there, you can report a bug at: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/ This was a clean install of 10.1CE, and upgraded to cooker last Thursday, so that really should be exactly what you are getting with 10.1OE. I did re-use /home, which may or may not have a bearing on some doubtful areas, but I also have a raft of error messages that I've picked up from the logs - another story, and I'll talk about that later - so there are a lot of questions. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Comparing md5sums in 10.0
Miark wrote: On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:18:17 +0100, John wrote: ls -l iso image file Divide the size of the ISO image file by 2048 to get the number of sectors, and record that sum (=n, hereafter) If it comes out to a decimal, do I round up? It doesn't. The sectors in question are the number of sectors on the disc. So whatever amount of bytes on a disc it will always come out a whole sector number. The spiral of the lazer track begins on the inner circumference and winds itself out to the outer. That spiral is devided up into so many sectors. So byte 1 is in sector 1 , byte 2049 is in sector 2, etc At least that is how I understand it. I don't pretend to be an expert. in terminal, dd if=/dev/scd0 bs=2048 count=n | md5sum - (note the - on the end, don't leave it off. It still comes out different. Although I think I forgot to double-check the sectors written by cdrecord. Then I suspect you have a failed disc write. If you did the above right and it still gives a wrong md5sum something is wrong somewhere. At this stage I would begin to suspect media next. Maybe the choice of media/burner match is not a good one. It does happen. I have to say that I have never yet had such a problem, but I know others have. I cannot say whether that is more a problem of the user or the media. I tend to believe the user is more at fault than the media, but that could be my wrong assumption on my part and until I experience the same it is very difficult to arrive at a sound conclusion. The dye that is used on some media is not necessarily the best type of dye/media for your burner. The frequency of the lazers may vary, or the intensity of the lazer may not be adequate for safe reliable burns, who knows, I don't. But they are variables and could be a cause of concern. The situation is not made better by the device manufacturers who in my experience don't want to suggest any particular make/specification for their burners. Basically it's left to the user to resolve. So right now I'd double check what you have just done above, and if you are satisfied it is still not coming out right I think I would beg borrow or acquire some different makes of media to see if it makes any difference. John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 19:29, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 17:33, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Although I feel sorry for you, Anne (being unable to use your camera) I'm somehow conforted that I'm not alone ! ;-) It's not a big problem - yet! I don't need the camera on that box, but it certainly tells me not to install on box2 as I had intended, until this is sorted out. My main reason for reporting this was to support you, tell you that you are not alone. If I remember correctly, the Fuji uses the xD card, exactly as the Olympus. It does. Can you use your scanner (or any USB device) after unplugging the camera ? To be truthful, I didn't try. With the cpu at 99.9% I couldn't even get Konsole as far as the prompt, so I gave up and rebooted. What went wrong with 10.1 ??? Indeed! There were some problems with usb in 10.0, I understand, although I was not affected. This seems very much worse. Have you posted a bug report yet? If so, I should add to it rather than starting a new one. No, I haven't reported the bugger - yet. Before giving up, I intend to dig a little deeper. MDK 10.0 worked OK, so something changed in 10.1. - And, finally, I can retrieve my photos from the command line, but only in one boot-session, because the system can't do anything else after plugging the camera in. Memory leak ? Ron kindly advised how to report a bug, but first I'll have a look at already reported ones. Thanks for all your help. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On October 27, 2004 11:32, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 17:52, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: Just saw this on Linux Today: Mandrakeliux 10.1 Official Released http://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2004102701526NWMDSW Might be worth downloading and doing a clean install (you've probably seen the oft-repeated advice that version upgrades are not recommended). If the problem is still there, you can report a bug at: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/ This was a clean install of 10.1CE, and upgraded to cooker last Thursday, so that really should be exactly what you are getting with 10.1OE. I did re-use /home, which may or may not have a bearing on some doubtful areas, but I also have a raft of error messages that I've picked up from the logs - another story, and I'll talk about that later - so there are a lot of questions. Anne Yes, and upgrade _should_ give you exactly the same end result as a clean install. There should be no difference other than the upgrade being faster (due to not having to reinstall packages that are already up to date). But history has shown repeatedly, at least for Mandrake, that this is _not_ true. Perhaps Stephen Kuhn, Hoyt Bailey, or others will pitch in here with their personal experiences (based upon which I have never even attempted a version upgrade, always a clean install). I also suspect the first response back from any bug report will be Have you tried a clean install of 10.1 Official? -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 19:16, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: Yes, and upgrade _should_ give you exactly the same end result as a clean install. There should be no difference other than the upgrade being faster (due to not having to reinstall packages that are already up to date). But history has shown repeatedly, at least for Mandrake, that this is _not_ true. Perhaps Stephen Kuhn, Hoyt Bailey, or others will pitch in here with their personal experiences (based upon which I have never even attempted a version upgrade, always a clean install). I also suspect the first response back from any bug report will be Have you tried a clean install of 10.1 Official? sigh You're probably right, but after 2 installs of it I just can't bring myself to start yet again - at least not just at this moment. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Comparing md5sums in 10.0
John Richard Smith wrote: Miark wrote: On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:18:17 +0100, John wrote: ls -l iso image file Divide the size of the ISO image file by 2048 to get the number of sectors, and record that sum (=n, hereafter) If it comes out to a decimal, do I round up? It doesn't. The sectors in question are the number of sectors on the disc. So whatever amount of bytes on a disc it will always come out a whole sector number. The spiral of the lazer track begins on the inner circumference and winds itself out to the outer. That spiral is devided up into so many sectors. So byte 1 is in sector 1 , byte 2049 is in sector 2, etc At least that is how I understand it. I don't pretend to be an expert. in terminal, dd if=/dev/scd0 bs=2048 count=n | md5sum - (note the - on the end, don't leave it off. It still comes out different. Although I think I forgot to double-check the sectors written by cdrecord. Then I suspect you have a failed disc write. If you did the above right and it still gives a wrong md5sum something is wrong somewhere. At this stage I would begin to suspect media next. Maybe the choice of media/burner match is not a good one. It does happen. I have to say that I have never yet had such a problem, but I know others have. I cannot say whether that is more a problem of the user or the media. I tend to believe the user is more at fault than the media, but that could be my wrong assumption on my part and until I experience the same it is very difficult to arrive at a sound conclusion. The dye that is used on some media is not necessarily the best type of dye/media for your burner. The frequency of the lazers may vary, or the intensity of the lazer may not be adequate for safe reliable burns, who knows, I don't. But they are variables and could be a cause of concern. The situation is not made better by the device manufacturers who in my experience don't want to suggest any particular make/specification for their burners. Basically it's left to the user to resolve. So right now I'd double check what you have just done above, and if you are satisfied it is still not coming out right I think I would beg borrow or acquire some different makes of media to see if it makes any difference. John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com I picked this up, i don't know if it pertains to the issue: Bad Md5sums? (maybe not) Just burned a CD from an ISO image and the md5sum doesn't match? The CD may be just fine... what you may be experiencing is padding which alters the md5sum. Before throwing away the CD and cursing, try this: cmp /dev/cdrom ISO_image For example, I got a bad md5sum from my 9.2beta1 CD1: $ dd if=/dev/cdrom | md5sum 1333216+0 records in 1333216+0 records out e82309091ad6b44a1218dc6f33c3b058 - It should be: 7a0479dc917d35bd822cecb558c8d432 So, I tried: $ cmp /dev/cdrom /ISO/Mandrake/MandrakeLinux-9.2beta1-CD1.i586.iso cmp: EOF on /ISO/Mandrake/MandrakeLinux-9.2beta1-CD1.i586.iso The EOF on the ISO image means that the CD image is an EXACT copy PLUS padding. An EOF on /mnt/cdrom would have meant the CD was incomplete. Just to prove the CD was really OK, I issued this piped string of commands: $ dd if=/dev/cdrom | head -c 682575872 | md5sum 1333162+0 records in 1333161+0 records out 7a0479dc917d35bd822cecb558c8d432 - Got the correct md5sum... :^) BTW, 682575872 is simply the length of that particular ISO image. So, more generically, we can use this pipe stream: dd if=/dev/cdrom | head -c `stat --format=%s ISO_image` | md5sum i.e., $ dd if=/dev/cdrom | head -c `stat --format=%s /ISO/Mandrake/MandrakeLinux-9.2beta1-CD1.i586.iso` | md5sum 1333162+0 records in 1333161+0 records out 7a0479dc917d35bd822cecb558c8d432 - For the purists, the size can be passed as an argument to dd like this (not verified): dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=`stat --format=%s ISO_image` | md5sum Marek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 02:00 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 19:16, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: Yes, and upgrade _should_ give you exactly the same end result as a clean install. There should be no difference other than the upgrade being faster (due to not having to reinstall packages that are already up to date). But history has shown repeatedly, at least for Mandrake, that this is _not_ true. Perhaps Stephen Kuhn, Hoyt Bailey, or others will pitch in here with their personal experiences (based upon which I have never even attempted a version upgrade, always a clean install). I also suspect the first response back from any bug report will be Have you tried a clean install of 10.1 Official? sigh You're probably right, but after 2 installs of it I just can't bring myself to start yet again - at least not just at this moment. Anne IIRC the only anomaly you reported Anne was cpufreq errors in boot logs. I meant to respond, sorry. I had the same. Cpufreq is used for laptops to control power usage and heat thru manipulating processor speed. On a desktop, just 'urpme cpufreq' As to the Digital camera kills MDK 10.1 deal, I don't have a USB camera (mine's serial), but I suspect the problem might be solved by tryin a different kernel. I believe Stew said much the same. I know reverting to 2.6.8.1-10 from -12mdk solved boot up problems checking (Reiser) FS's after I added an SATA drive into a mix of IDE drives a few weeks ago. With 2.6.8.1-12 the system went crazy, but all is well with -10mdk. I've got a hunch the 'camera' problem is similar. Just a suspicion tho -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 21:51, Tom Brinkman wrote: snip I know reverting to 2.6.8.1-10 from -12mdk solved boot up problems checking (Reiser) FS's after I added an SATA drive into a mix of IDE drives a few weeks ago. With 2.6.8.1-12 the system went crazy, but all is well with -10mdk. I've got a hunch the 'camera' problem is similar. Just a suspicion tho /snip Tom, do you have any idea as to where I can fetch kernel 2.6.8.1-10 ? I tried kernel 2.6.3, but it completely borked my ReiserFS. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Comparing md5sums in 10.0
Marek Pawinski wrote: I picked this up, i don't know if it pertains to the issue: Bad Md5sums? (maybe not) Just burned a CD from an ISO image and the md5sum doesn't match? The CD may be just fine... what you may be experiencing is padding which alters the md5sum. Before throwing away the CD and cursing, try this: cmp /dev/cdrom ISO_image For example, I got a bad md5sum from my 9.2beta1 CD1: $ dd if=/dev/cdrom | md5sum 1333216+0 records in 1333216+0 records out e82309091ad6b44a1218dc6f33c3b058 - It should be: 7a0479dc917d35bd822cecb558c8d432 So, I tried: $ cmp /dev/cdrom /ISO/Mandrake/MandrakeLinux-9.2beta1-CD1.i586.iso cmp: EOF on /ISO/Mandrake/MandrakeLinux-9.2beta1-CD1.i586.iso The EOF on the ISO image means that the CD image is an EXACT copy PLUS padding. An EOF on /mnt/cdrom would have meant the CD was incomplete. Just to prove the CD was really OK, I issued this piped string of commands: $ dd if=/dev/cdrom | head -c 682575872 | md5sum 1333162+0 records in 1333161+0 records out 7a0479dc917d35bd822cecb558c8d432 - Got the correct md5sum... :^) BTW, 682575872 is simply the length of that particular ISO image. So, more generically, we can use this pipe stream: dd if=/dev/cdrom | head -c `stat --format=%s ISO_image` | md5sum i.e., $ dd if=/dev/cdrom | head -c `stat --format=%s /ISO/Mandrake/MandrakeLinux-9.2beta1-CD1.i586.iso` | md5sum 1333162+0 records in 1333161+0 records out 7a0479dc917d35bd822cecb558c8d432 - For the purists, the size can be passed as an argument to dd like this (not verified): dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=`stat --format=%s ISO_image` | md5sum Marek Marek, This is very interesting. I did not know of the cmp command. You have to be in the directory of the iso image I take it when you compare it to the bytes on the disc ? I'll have a go at this tomorrow. As you say it's padding that quite often corrupts the md5sums John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 22:59, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Tom, do you have any idea as to where I can fetch kernel 2.6.8.1-10 ? I tried kernel 2.6.3, but it completely borked my ReiserFS. Kaj Haulrich. http://ftp.surfnet.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/distr/Mandrakelinux/devel/10.1/i586/media/main/ kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 21:59, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Tom, do you have any idea as to where I can fetch kernel 2.6.8.1-10 ? That was on the original download 10.1CE disk Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 23:20, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Wednesday 27 October 2004 22:59, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Tom, do you have any idea as to where I can fetch kernel 2.6.8.1-10 ? I tried kernel 2.6.3, but it completely borked my ReiserFS. Kaj Haulrich. http://ftp.surfnet.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/distr/Mandrakelinux/devel/ 10.1/i586/media/main/ kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm H.J. , that's exactly the problem. After visiting bugzilla I found several reports concerning the 2.6.8.1-12 kernel. Mounting mass storage devices (like certain cameras) chrashes the system and corrupts ReiserFS. Therefore, I wanted to follow Tom's advice and install the 2.6.8.1-10 kernel. Can't find it anywhere, though. Even rpmfind.net doesn't come up with it. Maybe I should try the 2.4 kernel for 10.1 ? Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 03:59 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: I know reverting to 2.6.8.1-10 from -12mdk solved boot up problems checking (Reiser) FS's after I added an SATA drive into a mix of IDE drives a few weeks ago. With 2.6.8.1-12 the system went crazy, but all is well with -10mdk. I've got a hunch the 'camera' problem is similar. Just a suspicion tho /snip Tom, do you have any idea as to where I can fetch kernel 2.6.8.1-10 ? -10mdk is the kernel that 10.1 CE was released with. So if you've got 10.1CE CD's you've got it. I went lookin for -10 on the mirrors, specifically 'kernel-source' but didn't find it. In my situation I'm still tryin to figure out why it makes such a difference with my SATA/IDE mix. Sorry, like I said, it's a hunch -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 23:41, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday 27 October 2004 03:59 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: I know reverting to 2.6.8.1-10 from -12mdk solved boot up problems checking (Reiser) FS's after I added an SATA drive into a mix of IDE drives a few weeks ago. With 2.6.8.1-12 the system went crazy, but all is well with -10mdk. I've got a hunch the 'camera' problem is similar. Just a suspicion tho /snip Tom, do you have any idea as to where I can fetch kernel 2.6.8.1-10 ? -10mdk is the kernel that 10.1 CE was released with. So if you've got 10.1CE CD's you've got it. I went lookin for -10 on the mirrors, specifically 'kernel-source' but didn't find it. In my situation I'm still tryin to figure out why it makes such a difference with my SATA/IDE mix. Sorry, like I said, it's a hunch Thanks Anne and Tom. What a fool I am, not thinking of the obvious. I guess I'm too eager to delete all my CD sources and rely only on the mirrors. Another lesson learned. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 23:39, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Therefore, I wanted to follow Tom's advice and install the 2.6.8.1-10 kernel. Can't find it anywhere, though. Even rpmfind.net doesn't come up with it. Maybe I should try the 2.4 kernel for 10.1 ? Kaj Haulrich. You could try the 2.4 kernel but that'll have a few other quircks:( Like Anne said, the 2.6.1-10 kernel should be on the dload discs and if you haven't got it I'll be more than happy to put it up for dload for youjust say the word:) Methinks there's something ugly going on between hotplug and udev on your system...so you might consider disabling both and using devfs as a service at boot instead. I'm still using 2.6.1-10 (with udev) and thus can't stat your bugit's definitely worth investigating though. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 23:41, Tom Brinkman wrote: -10mdk is the kernel that 10.1 CE was released with. So if you've got 10.1CE CD's you've got it. I went lookin for -10 on the mirrors, specifically 'kernel-source' but didn't find it. In my situation I'm still tryin to figure out why it makes such a difference with my SATA/IDE mix. Sorry, like I said, it's a hunch This raises the question: What's the diff between 2.6.8.1-10 and 2.6.8-12? Anybody looked into that yet? 10 to 12 can only be a difference in applied patches i.e. Mandrake specific. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 23:50, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Wednesday 27 October 2004 23:39, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Therefore, I wanted to follow Tom's advice and install the 2.6.8.1-10 kernel. Can't find it anywhere, though. Even rpmfind.net doesn't come up with it. Maybe I should try the 2.4 kernel for 10.1 ? Kaj Haulrich. You could try the 2.4 kernel but that'll have a few other quircks:( Like Anne said, the 2.6.1-10 kernel should be on the dload discs and if you haven't got it I'll be more than happy to put it up for dload for youjust say the word:) Methinks there's something ugly going on between hotplug and udev on your system...so you might consider disabling both and using devfs as a service at boot instead. I'm still using 2.6.1-10 (with udev) and thus can't stat your bugit's definitely worth investigating though. Thanks H.J. - I have the -10 kernel now. I'm going to install it right away, but if it corrupts my filesystem again it'll be a while until I can get back and try your suggestions. Wish me luck. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 23:56, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Wish me luck. Kaj Haulrich. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you...as it sounds like a mess on your box right nowsweaty palms et all, heh?:) Don't uninstall/re-install too quickly though. Sounds sort of windosy to me to be a real help.just install the kernels and let them get added to lilo. Check that they're pointing to the right kernels/initrd's though! I somehow I allways have to get my hands dirty there. Got mdk 10.1, slackware10.0 and Suse running comfortably on this box though, booting through lilo. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 00:06, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Wednesday 27 October 2004 23:56, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Wish me luck. Kaj Haulrich. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you...as it sounds like a mess on your box right nowsweaty palms et all, heh?:) Don't uninstall/re-install too quickly though. Sounds sort of windosy to me to be a real help.just install the kernels and let them get added to lilo. Check that they're pointing to the right kernels/initrd's though! I somehow I allways have to get my hands dirty there. Got mdk 10.1, slackware10.0 and Suse running comfortably on this box though, booting through lilo. Well H.J. my palm are WET. I know the feeling of messing around in /boot and lilo ! Right now I installed the 2.6.8.1-10 kernel, with no evident errors. But the camera still behaves like in the -12 kernel. So no go here. Next, I'll try to install the 2.4 kernel. Hopefully that'll change things to the better. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] System time
Hi there. I've got this peculiar problem with the time on my system. This begun to happen couple of days ago. After every system reboot or restart (yeah, I turn the computer off) the clock sets itself to something like -7 hours from my local time. Example: Now it's 00:13 and it shows me 17:13. What might be the problem and what can I do to fix it? -- Cezary 'Thereidos' Morga :caesar(at)os.pl priv:thereidos(at)gmail.com Registered Linux User No. 362185 http://counter.li.org GG# 169903 ICQ# 328-700-565 Jabber: thereidos(at)ebox.pl Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] System time
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 17:16, Thereidos wrote: Hi there. I've got this peculiar problem with the time on my system. This begun to happen couple of days ago. After every system reboot or restart (yeah, I turn the computer off) the clock sets itself to something like -7 hours from my local time. Example: Now it's 00:13 and it shows me 17:13. What might be the problem and what can I do to fix it? Your system time is confusing UTC local time. If you dual boot with windows then your clock should be set to local time. If not set the system time to UTC and select the correct time zone. Right click on the clock and select 'Adjust date time'. -- Regards; Hoyt Registered Linux user # 363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] System time
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:49:14 -0500 Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 26 October 2004 17:16, Thereidos wrote: Hi there. I've got this peculiar problem with the time on my system. This begun to happen couple of days ago. After every system reboot or restart (yeah, I turn the computer off) the clock sets itself to something like -7 hours from my local time. Example: Now it's 00:13 and it shows me 17:13. What might be the problem and what can I do to fix it? Your system time is confusing UTC local time. If you dual boot with windows then your clock should be set to local time. If not set the system time to UTC and select the correct time zone. Right click on the clock and select 'Adjust date time'. Yes, I dualboot with windows and I always had the time set to local (also in bios). I have also tried 'Adjust date time' which is just temporary help. After restart/reboot the clock problem reappears. Strange thing is that it did not happen before. -- Cezary 'Thereidos' Morga :caesar(at)os.pl priv:thereidos(at)gmail.com Registered Linux User No. 362185 http://counter.li.org GG# 169903 ICQ# 328-700-565 Jabber: thereidos(at)ebox.pl Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] System time
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 18:17, Thereidos wrote: On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:49:14 -0500 Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 26 October 2004 17:16, Thereidos wrote: Hi there. I've got this peculiar problem with the time on my system. This begun to happen couple of days ago. After every system reboot or restart (yeah, I turn the computer off) the clock sets itself to something like -7 hours from my local time. Example: Now it's 00:13 and it shows me 17:13. What might be the problem and what can I do to fix it? Your system time is confusing UTC local time. If you dual boot with windows then your clock should be set to local time. If not set the system time to UTC and select the correct time zone. Right click on the clock and select 'Adjust date time'. Yes, I dualboot with windows and I always had the time set to local (also in bios). I have also tried 'Adjust date time' which is just temporary help. After restart/reboot the clock problem reappears. Strange thing is that it did not happen before. I recall hearing of this before but I dont recall the answer. You might try the archives seems like I saw it in the last month. -- Regards; Hoyt Registered Linux user # 363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] System time
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 07:17 pm, Thereidos wrote: On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:49:14 -0500 Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 26 October 2004 17:16, Thereidos wrote: Hi there. I've got this peculiar problem with the time on my system. This begun to happen couple of days ago. After every system reboot or restart (yeah, I turn the computer off) the clock sets itself to something like -7 hours from my local time. Example: Now it's 00:13 and it shows me 17:13. What might be the problem and what can I do to fix it? Your system time is confusing UTC local time. If you dual boot with windows then your clock should be set to local time. If not set the system time to UTC and select the correct time zone. Right click on the clock and select 'Adjust date time'. Yes, I dualboot with windows and I always had the time set to local (also in bios). I have also tried 'Adjust date time' which is just temporary help. After restart/reboot the clock problem reappears. Strange thing is that it did not happen before. -- Cezary 'Thereidos' Morga :caesar(at)os.pl priv:thereidos(at)gmail.com Registered Linux User No. 362185 http://counter.li.org GG# 169903 ICQ# 328-700-565 Jabber: thereidos(at)ebox.pl How do you explain the seven hour difference? Seven hours is almost a third of the way around the planet. Now, I know Poland isn't all that much east of the Greenwich meridian -- I make it out as two timezones (hours) to the east. Throw in the daylight/standard time bit, and you might be able to explain a three (or one) hour discrepancy, but not seven. Or has there been a lot of continental drift in your parts lately? Another question: Have you just gone through the transition from daylight to standard time? That has screwed me up a few times. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] trojan?
someone sent me this: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1682854,00.asp Maryse Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Free space
Could anybody tell what is the easiest way to monitor the free space on my partitions. In Mandrake 9.1 I used kdiskfree (I think that was the right name) but I can find it on Mandrake 10. Thanks Alan -- -- Linux user 321006 -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
