[newbie] new user
Hi there My son is returning home to live for a few months - so thought I would add him as new user. Used 'adduser' name There was no prompt for a password so did not do anything else. On the next free line I added the password, wondering if it was needed. Then exited konosle. Attempted to logon using the new name, but simply won't do it. Any ideas? Thanks Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] new user
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 09:59, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Hi there My son is returning home to live for a few months - so thought I would add him as new user. Used 'adduser' name There was no prompt for a password so did not do anything else. On the next free line I added the password, wondering if it was needed. Then exited konosle. Attempted to logon using the new name, but simply won't do it. Any ideas? Thanks Rosemary The new user probably is there OK. You can confirm it by looking for his home directory, like this : cd /home ls then you should se a directory with the new user's name. However, you haven't set a password. To do this type (as root) : passwd [username] Now, exit your root console and type : su [username] give the new password, and you are done. The new user will get a default desktop from /etc/skel, then he can start tweaking and configuring, change his password and so on HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] new user
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 09:59, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Hi there My son is returning home to live for a few months - so thought I would add him as new user. Used 'adduser' name There was no prompt for a password so did not do anything else. On the next free line I added the password, wondering if it was needed. Then exited konosle. Attempted to logon using the new name, but simply won't do it. Any ideas? Thanks Rosemary Yes, on the cml (as root) passwd username without the quotes. You'll be prompted for a password (twice) -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] kmail - delayed send
Is there any way to have kmail send a message at some defined time in the future? I often write a message that I don't want sent until a specified time. MS Exchange allows a message not to be sent before a specified time, but I haven't found a similar feature (yet) in kmail. TIA Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] new user
Add a new user: % useradd adrian Set the password for user adrian: % passwd adrian Enter new password for adrian: Confirm new password: Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Hi there My son is returning home to live for a few months - so thought I would add him as new user. Used 'adduser' name There was no prompt for a password so did not do anything else. On the next free line I added the password, wondering if it was needed. Then exited konosle. Attempted to logon using the new name, but simply won't do it. Any ideas? Thanks Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com -- Adrian Coman ASIC design/verification consultant mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: +40 745 986 106 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Nokia 6800 connection
On Monday 14 March 2005 16:23, Amy wrote: Indeed, my model does not have bluetooth. I would be using the data cable to connect it up. Do you have a program you use for things like contact book backup, loading pictures on your phone, etc? Part of the reason I'm asking on the list is that I am having trouble getting answers out of Google. I've tried, but my googling skills apparently suck and I can't get anything I can make heads or tails of. I use kdebluetoothd for everything that my phone does. I have made connections with the stock Nokia software under Win using my work computer but the Symbian OS can be used with Linux, just not quite as elegantly. So, contacts can be sent and received from the phone using standard .vcf format. From KDE Contacts, save one of your contacts in vcf format and you can then send that to the phone and from there, you can save it as a contact in the phone. You can also send from the phone to your computer, again as .vcf and then import it into KDE. For pictures, you simply send the picture to your phone or from your phone and it comes down or goes up as an image. Same for .mid files for ringtones, etc. kdebluetooth comes with a file transfer agent using bluetooth that is very adequate. None of this is material to you since you don't have bluetooth. IR works as well on my phone but I haven't done any IR under Linux since my desktop machines don't have IR connectors. I haven't ever used a data cable so I don't have any info about that, when I went shopping for a phone, I was specifically after bluetooth for obvious reasons. However, according to my reading, your model has very limited PDA functions, so possibly you won't need to go as far down that path. Try here: http://devidal.tv/~chris/nokia_6800/ And, there is a Linux/Win tool called gnokii that is specifically for connectivity of phones and Nokia 6800 is supposed to be supported. http://www.gnokii.org/ -- Bryan Phinney Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi firefox
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:06:29 -0800 Amy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can find information and directions on how to set it up on the site: http://www.eslrahc.com/ He also offers RPMs for stuff like gaim, and other popular programs that don't get updated very frequently on the official mirrors. Currently in Charles mirror there's Firefox 1.0, but another great unofficial urmpi repository is http://norlug.org/?op=rpms in which you can find 1.0.1 -- Corrado Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] md5sum question
Somebody suggested that I add the --no-md5sum tag to urpmi.update -a and I don't remember what the reason for this is. Will someone explain? ty -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] re: SSHD
Hello Duncan, I tried doing: chkconfig --add sshd but its telling me No such file or directory any idea what im doing wrong? I am logged in as su also :( -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Duncan Anderson Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 1:54 AM To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] re: SSHD Mrexecutive wrote: Hello Guys, I installed SSHD but forgot how to start it or can someone show me how to put it in the autoexec file for linux so it does it upon start up? Sorry im a newbie! Go into the Mandrake Control Centre (Configure Your Computer) and go into the System section, then go into Services - Look for sshd and enable it. Otherwise, from a root command prompt, type cheers Duncan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] another urpmi query
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 02:24 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 05:31, Julie Sloan wrote: On Tuesday 15 March 2005 12:01 am, Smiley wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:44:05 -0500 Julie Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when a normal update gets interrupted the partial downloads seem to get stuck in /var/cache/urpmi/partial, and then the packages won't install because of these missing partials. What's the preferred way of dealing with this? I think wait and try again to download later; the not installed packages are not deleted, so no need to download them again. Okay, thanks :) Even if what's in the partial directory are incomplete d/ls? like 6Mb of an 8Mb package, etc? Yes - it doesn't seem to matter. I'm not sure whether it completes the partials, or whether it starts again, but for certain the download and install completes and everything gets cleaned up. It's not happening here. Sorry for the very long (what follows), but I've been at this point three times now, and each time I go to easyurpmi.zarb.org and start over with urpmi.removemedia, (then get the new sources) and then: rpm --rebuilddb updatedb update-menus -v -n ldconfig urpmi.update -a --no-md5sum urpmi --auto-select --noclean FWIW in /var/cache/urpmi/partial there is: OpenOffice.org-libs-1.1.2-8.100mdk.i586.rpm libkdecore4-3.2-36.10.100mdk.i586.rpm kdenetwork-kopete-3.2-17.1.100mdk.i586.rpm cups-common-1.1.20-5.6.100mdk.i586.rpm Of the packages mentioned below, these are in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms: OpenOffice.org-1.1.2-8.100mdk.i586 OpenOffice.org-help-en-1.1.2-8.100mdk.i586 OpenOffice.org-l10n-en-1.1.2-8.100mdk.i586 OpenOffice.org-libs-1.1.2-8.100mdk.i586 cups-drivers-1.1-138.2.100mdk.i586 kdelibs-common-3.2-36.10.100mdk.i586 (I am on Mdk10.0-official and I do have Charles Edwards set up as a media source.) what seems the course to take is rm the cups-drivers and the kdelibs-common files form /partial and once again urpmi --auto-select --no-md5sum, but if this is way wrong someone tell me please, before I do it :) thanks Julie To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed (222 MB): OpenOffice.org-1.1.2-8.100mdk.i586 OpenOffice.org-help-en-1.1.2-8.100mdk.i586 OpenOffice.org-l10n-en-1.1.2-8.100mdk.i586 OpenOffice.org-libs-1.1.2-8.100mdk.i586 cups-drivers-1.1-138.2.100mdk.i586 kdelibs-common-3.2-36.10.100mdk.i586 libkdecore4-3.2-36.10.100mdk.i586 Is this OK? (Y/n) y 0% of 0 completed, ETA = --:--:--, speed = 0 http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pub/linux/Mandrakelinux/official/updates/10.0/RPMS/./libkdecore4-3.2-36.10.100mdk.i586.rpm 0% of 0 completed, ETA = --:--:--, speed = 0 0% of 0 completed, ETA = --:--:--, speed = 0 http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pub/linux/Mandrakelinux/official/updates/10.0/RPMS/./OpenOffice.org-libs-1.1.2-8.100mdk.i586.rpm error: /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/cups-drivers-1.1-138.2.100mdk.i586.rpm: headerRead failed error: /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdelibs-common-3.2-36.10.100mdk.i586.rpm: headerRead failed The following packages have bad signatures: /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/cups-drivers-1.1-138.2.100mdk.i586.rpm: Missing signature (Unable to read rpm file) /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdelibs-common-3.2-36.10.100mdk.i586.rpm: Missing signature (Unable to read rpm file) Do you want to continue installation ? (y/N) y installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdelibs-common-3.2-36.10.100mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/cups-drivers-1.1-138.2.100mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/OpenOffice.org-help-en-1.1.2-8.100mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/OpenOffice.org-1.1.2-8.100mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/OpenOffice.org-l10n-en-1.1.2-8.100mdk.i586.rpm error: unable to install package /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdelibs-common-3.2-36.10.100mdk.i586.rpm unable to install package /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/cups-drivers-1.1-138.2.100mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdelibs-common-3.2-36.10.100mdk.i586.rpm: headerRead failed: hdr blob(396738): BAD, read returned 289160 error: /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/cups-drivers-1.1-138.2.100mdk.i586.rpm: headerRead failed: hdr blob(135509): BAD, read returned 56968 Installation failed: OpenOffice.org-libs = 1:1.1.2-8.100mdk is needed by OpenOffice.org-1.1.2-8.100mdk Installation failed, some files are missing: http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pub/linux/Mandrakelinux/official/updates/10.0/RPMS/./libkdecore4-3.2-36.10.100mdk.i586.rpm http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pub/linux/Mandrakelinux/official/updates/10.0/RPMS/./OpenOffice.org-libs-1.1.2-8.100mdk.i586.rpm You may want to update your urpmi database Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi firefox
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 01:06 am, Amy wrote: On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:47:00 -0500, Julie Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when I urpmi firefox it wants to give me -0.8 instead of the new -1.0.1. I'm not sure how you can make the source you're trying to use work, but I can direct you to a better one that I know a good number of people here on the list use. If you're running 10.1, probably the easiest way to get an up to date version of Firefox would be to use Charles Edward's mirror. You can find information and directions on how to set it up on the site: http://www.eslrahc.com/ thank you Amy I do have Charles set up as a source but I am running Mdk10.0 -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] another urpmi query
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:29:26 -0500 Julie Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not happening here. Sorry for the very long (what follows), but I've been at this point three times now, and each time I go to easyurpmi.zarb.org and start over with urpmi.removemedia Have you tried to add a different mirror or is always the same? -- Smiley Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] MySQL File Location
Hi All I have created a partition on one of my computer to store critical system data files called /mnt/System_Data. I am trying to configure MySQL so that it will use /mnt/System_Data as its default file storage. I looked for /etc/my.cnf; found I did not have one so I generated one. My /etc/my.cnf files contains exactly 1 line which is: datadir=/mnt/System_Data When I start MySQL I now receive the following error message: Found option without preceding group in config file /etc/my.cnf at line 1. Fatail error in default handling. Program aborted. Would appreciate help in ascertaining what should be added or how current should be modified. Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] another urpmi query
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 09:34 am, Smiley wrote: On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:29:26 -0500 Julie Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not happening here. Sorry for the very long (what follows), but I've been at this point three times now, and each time I go to easyurpmi.zarb.org and start over with urpmi.removemedia Have you tried to add a different mirror or is always the same? Try a different mirror each time -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi firefox
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 08:49 am, Smiley wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:06:29 -0800 Amy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can find information and directions on how to set it up on the site: http://www.eslrahc.com/ He also offers RPMs for stuff like gaim, and other popular programs that don't get updated very frequently on the official mirrors. Currently in Charles mirror there's Firefox 1.0, but another great unofficial urmpi repository is http://norlug.org/?op=rpms in which you can find 1.0.1 thank you, I'm adding norlug now :) -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] another urpmi query
Julie Sloan wrote: (I am on Mdk10.0-official and I do have Charles Edwards set up as a media source.) what seems the course to take is rm the cups-drivers and the kdelibs-common files form /partial and once again urpmi --auto-select --no-md5sum, but if this is way wrong someone tell me please, before I do it :) thanks Julie Julie; It sounds as is the rpms that you've got stored in the /partial folder may be corrupted, so even if urpmi could resume the download, it's not going to help the situation. Dump the rpms in /partial and rerun urpmi. It's your safest bet. -- Mr. Geek Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] another urpmi query
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 10:07 am, Mr. Geek wrote: Julie Sloan wrote: (I am on Mdk10.0-official and I do have Charles Edwards set up as a media source.) what seems the course to take is rm the cups-drivers and the kdelibs-common files form /partial and once again urpmi --auto-select --no-md5sum, but if this is way wrong someone tell me please, before I do it :) thanks Julie Julie; It sounds as is the rpms that you've got stored in the /partial folder may be corrupted, so even if urpmi could resume the download, it's not going to help the situation. Dump the rpms in /partial and rerun urpmi. It's your safest bet. Thanks. :) I was waiting for someon to either say what you just did or to shriek NO! Don't do that or you'll break everything Glad it was the former. -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] another urpmi query
Julie Sloan wrote:
Sorry for the very long (what follows), but I've been at this point three
times now, and each time I go to easyurpmi.zarb.org and start over with
urpmi.removemedia, (then get the new sources) and then:
rpm --rebuilddb updatedb update-menus -v -n ldconfig
urpmi.update -a --no-md5sum urpmi --auto-select --noclean
First of all you shouldn't be mixin all those commands
together Julie. Certainly not 'rpm --rebuilddb updatedb
update-menus -v -n ldconfig' _before_ updating your media and
gettin updates. Even then, those commands are really only useful
_after_ large daily 'unstable' cooker updates, specially when libs,
system files, or xorg updates are involved. And then you should
follow with a logout from your DE (destop environment, eg KDE),
restart the X server, and log back in. Rarely, if ever, useful to
do all that with 'stable' version Mandrake supplied updates (eg,
10.1, 10.0, 9.2 .).
You do realize that --noclean is just an option to keep rpm
d/l's after uprmi has installed them, right? Not normally somethin
you need to do. A better option might be --keep. It will keep
present software on the system, and skip the update one, if there's
a conflict encountered, rather than stop an tell you that there's a
problem an an some package(s) need to be removed. But even then,
somethin not normally needed with 'stable' version updates.
(see 'man urpmi' for better explainations ;)
As far as --no-md5sum, I don't think you wanna do that either.
It disables protection from d/l'g corrupted packages from bad
mirrors. I believe what you want is to add these lines to the
beginning of /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg (brackets included)
{
downloader: wget
verify-rpm: 0
}
That will make urpmi use wget rather than default to curl.
wget is often better if the mirror doesn't wanna play nice, or is
very busy. 'verify-rpm: 0' (0 = false) disables package signature
checking, an you just know you're gonna say to go ahead an install
anyway ;) Checking the signatures, specially on contrib packages
isn't much of a big deal anyhow. Better that you have trust in the
mirror and/or the provider (eg, PLF, CAE, Thac, etc.)
urpmi.update -a urpmi --auto-select -vis about all you should
need. If you get the dreaded in order to update, the following
packages need to be removed message, an you're not sure that's a
good idea (most often isn't), then run
urpmi.update -a urpmi --auto-select -v --keep
Now if you (make the mistake :) of upgrading somethin like
KDE to a 3rd party's newer version than your Mandrake came with,
then run all those commands I said (above) were only usefull for
large cooker updates. IMO tho, you'd be better off just runnin
cooker than goin for those 3rd party updates. Probly less problems
;) YMMV
--
Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas
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[newbie] qmail cool site
Hello all. Finally, I'm done running QMail. I'd like to recommend this website which helped me a lot: www.qmailrocks.org. Just in case... Greetings, Fernando Gómez. == Registered Linux User 381647. Usuario Registrado de Linux 381647 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] re: SSHD
Mrexecutive wrote: Hello Duncan, I tried doing: chkconfig --add sshd but its telling me No such file or directory any idea what im doing wrong? I am logged in as su also :( Hi Try specifying the full path: /sbin/chkconfig -- add sshd or else, when you use su, do it like this: su - The minus sign means that it will set up root's environment correctly, so that /sbin and /usr/sbin are in the path. cheers Duncan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] another urpmi query
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 10:37 am, Tom wrote:
Julie Sloan wrote:
Sorry for the very long (what follows), but I've been at this point
three times now, and each time I go to easyurpmi.zarb.org and start
over with urpmi.removemedia, (then get the new sources) and then:
rpm --rebuilddb updatedb update-menus -v -n ldconfig
urpmi.update -a --no-md5sum urpmi --auto-select --noclean
First of all you shouldn't be mixin all those commands
together Julie. Certainly not 'rpm --rebuilddb updatedb
update-menus -v -n ldconfig' _before_ updating your media and
gettin updates. Even then, those commands are really only useful
_after_ large daily 'unstable' cooker updates, specially when libs,
system files, or xorg updates are involved. And then you should
follow with a logout from your DE (destop environment, eg KDE),
restart the X server, and log back in. Rarely, if ever, useful to
do all that with 'stable' version Mandrake supplied updates (eg,
10.1, 10.0, 9.2 .).
hi Tom;
okay, I don't need to update the menus and all that after each large update?
I thought I read here that I should.
You do realize that --noclean is just an option to keep rpm
d/l's after uprmi has installed them, right? Not normally somethin
you need to do. A better option might be --keep. It will keep
present software on the system, and skip the update one, if there's
a conflict encountered, rather than stop an tell you that there's a
problem an an some package(s) need to be removed. But even then,
somethin not normally needed with 'stable' version updates.
(see 'man urpmi' for better explainations ;)
I am doing --noclean so that I do not have to d/l the rpms again should I
have to reinstall (off discs) - I am on dialup and it takes several days.
Also I am keeping the rpms because I am fixin to install 10.0 on my laptop
and sure don't want to have to d/l all that once again.
It's not the version that's unstable but the i-d-10-t at the keyboard :)
As far as --no-md5sum, I don't think you wanna do that either.
It disables protection from d/l'g corrupted packages from bad
mirrors. I believe what you want is to add these lines to the
beginning of /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg (brackets included)
{
downloader: wget
verify-rpm: 0
}
Oh, good. I was wondering about using wget instead of curl. As to the
--no-md5sum tag, I believe I learned that here also. This morning I began
another thread asking why --no-md5sum, but no-one's answered yet. :)
That will make urpmi use wget rather than default to curl.
wget is often better if the mirror doesn't wanna play nice, or is
very busy. 'verify-rpm: 0' (0 = false) disables package signature
checking, an you just know you're gonna say to go ahead an install
anyway ;) Checking the signatures, specially on contrib packages
isn't much of a big deal anyhow. Better that you have trust in the
mirror and/or the provider (eg, PLF, CAE, Thac, etc.)
urpmi.update -a urpmi --auto-select -vis about all you should
need. If you get the dreaded in order to update, the following
packages need to be removed message, an you're not sure that's a
good idea (most often isn't), then run
urpmi.update -a urpmi --auto-select -v --keep
Now if you (make the mistake :) of upgrading somethin like
KDE to a 3rd party's newer version than your Mandrake came with,
then run all those commands I said (above) were only usefull for
large cooker updates. IMO tho, you'd be better off just runnin
cooker than goin for those 3rd party updates. Probly less problems
;) YMMV
thanks Tom - all this may have been explained before but this is like
building blocks to me - - I have to understand one thing before some of the
others sink in. You could say there are package dependencies in the
learning center of my brain.
--
Julie
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Re: [newbie] Enlarging / partition
On Sunday 13 March 2005 21:18, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All How can I enlarge the / partition? Thanks in advance, Paul diskdrake in MandrakeControlCentreMountPointsPartitions can resize a Linux partition, but that assumes that you have contiguous free space available on your drive at the end of the current partition. A more likely scenario is that you have space on a different hard drive, or on a different part of your existing drive, in which case the simplest solution is to mount part of your current file system on a new partition. You could for example mount /usr on a new partition. When you use diskdrake to create a new partition and select a mount point which already contains files (such as /usr), then diskdrake will offer to copy the existing files to the new partition for you. The new partition can then be mounted without any interruption. Note: I am not sure if diskdrake will remove the files from the 'old' partition in which case they will still be there and consuming space, but will be hidden from view by the 'new' /usr partition sitting on top. In order to delete those files and free up the space you would have to boot with MandrakeMove, Knoppix or some other liveCd distro and delete them. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MySQL File Location
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 14:42, SOTL wrote: Hi All I have created a partition on one of my computer to store critical system data files called /mnt/System_Data. I am trying to configure MySQL so that it will use /mnt/System_Data as its default file storage. I looked for /etc/my.cnf; found I did not have one so I generated one. My /etc/my.cnf files contains exactly 1 line which is: datadir=/mnt/System_Data When I start MySQL I now receive the following error message: Found option without preceding group in config file /etc/my.cnf at line 1. Fatail error in default handling. Program aborted. Would appreciate help in ascertaining what should be added or how current should be modified. Frank It is failing because having created a /etc/my.cnf file it is expecting to find other parameters defined in there in addition to datadir (pid_file=, basedir=/, bindir=/usr/bin ) You could alternatively edit the datadir path in /etc/rc5.d/S90mysql which is the script that starts mysql Alternatively if you create a symlink from /var/lib/mysql to /mnt/System_Data/mysql then you would not need to change any configuration and your data would go in the folder you desire. BTW: In Linux /var is the default directory to hold data so why do you need to define a different one? derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] --noclean
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 05:38, Julie Sloan wrote:
how would I go about making the --noclean option default for urpmi'ing, so
I don't have to remember to add it each time I d/l a program?
ty
In /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg
add the line
noclean
between the first set of {}
(or is it no-clean ?)
derek
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Re: [newbie] MySQL File Location
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 11:21, Derek Jennings wrote: On Tuesday 15 March 2005 14:42, SOTL wrote: Hi All I have created a partition on one of my computer to store critical system data files called /mnt/System_Data. I am trying to configure MySQL so that it will use /mnt/System_Data as its default file storage. I looked for /etc/my.cnf; found I did not have one so I generated one. My /etc/my.cnf files contains exactly 1 line which is: datadir=/mnt/System_Data When I start MySQL I now receive the following error message: Found option without preceding group in config file /etc/my.cnf at line 1. Fatail error in default handling. Program aborted. Would appreciate help in ascertaining what should be added or how current should be modified. Frank It is failing because having created a /etc/my.cnf file it is expecting to find other parameters defined in there in addition to datadir (pid_file=, basedir=/, bindir=/usr/bin ) You could alternatively edit the datadir path in /etc/rc5.d/S90mysql which is the script that starts mysql Alternatively if you create a symlink from /var/lib/mysql to /mnt/System_Data/mysql then you would not need to change any configuration and your data would go in the folder you desire. BTW: In Linux /var is the default directory to hold data so why do you need to define a different one? derek Well I changed the file to be [MYSQL] datadir=/mnt/System_Data and I got: Error unknown variable 'datadir=/mnt/System_Data' which I did not understand. So, I open another .cnf file and edited to be identical by changing name-X within the [name-X] to [MYSQL] and then editing a linewith datadir= /dir/dir/file-name to datadir=/mnt/System_Data The final product was: file = /etc/my.cnf with contents of [MYSQL] datadir=/mnt/System_Data Then I tested it and it worked. I would not bother people on this list with this but it is not the first time it has happened. That is I type a configuration file check it re check it and it refuse to function then copy and edit a file from some other location edit it to where it is exact and I do mean exact equal the the one I created from the keyboard and it function correctly. Does anyone have any explanation why creating a new file from keyboard refuses to work and editing and existing file and saving it works? Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] --noclean
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 11:28 am, Derek Jennings wrote:
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 05:38, Julie Sloan wrote:
how would I go about making the --noclean option default for urpmi'ing,
so I don't have to remember to add it each time I d/l a program?
ty
In /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg
add the line
noclean
between the first set of {}
(or is it no-clean ?)
derek
Thanks. :)
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Re: [newbie] md5sum question
Julie Sloan wrote: Somebody suggested that I add the --no-md5sum tag to urpmi.update -a and I don't remember what the reason for this is. Will someone explain? ty I can not think of a good reasion to do it. Basicly, you are turning off error checking that makes sure the files extracted from the RPM are the same as when they were made part of the RPM. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Fwd: [linux-aktivis] [JOKE] The Creation (Microsoft Style)
The Creation (Microsoft Style) 1. In the beginning GOD created the Bit and the Byte. And from those he created the Word. 2. And there were two Bytes in the Word; and nothing else existed. And God separated the One from the Zero; and he saw it was good. 3. And God said - Let the Data be; And so it happened. And God said - Let the Data go to their proper places. And he created floppy disks and hard disks and compact disks. 4. And God said - Let the computers be, so there would be a place to put floppy disks and hard disks and compact disks. Thus God created computers and called them hardware. 5. And there was no Software yet. But God created programs; small and big. And told them - Go and multiply yourselves and fill all the Memory. 6. And God said - I will create the Programmer; And the Programmer will make new programs and govern over the computers and programs and Data. 7. And God created the Programmer; and put him at Data Center; And God showed the Programmer the Catalog Tree and said You can use all the volumes and subvolumes but DO NOT USE Windows. 8. And God said - It is not Good for the programmer to be alone. He took a bone from the Programmer's body and created a creature that would look up at the Programmer; and admire the Programmer; and love the things the Programmer does; And God called the creature: the User. 9. And the Programmer and the User were left under the naked DOS and it was Good. 10. But Bill was smarter than all the other creatures of God. And Bill said to the User - Did God really tell you not to run any programs ? 11. And the User answered - God told us that we can use every program and every piece of Data but told us not to run Windows or we will die. 12. And Bill said to the User - How can you talk about something you did not even try. The moment you run Windows you will become equal to God. You will be able to create anything you like by a simple click of your mouse. 13. And the User saw that the fruits of the Windows were nicer and easier to use. And the User saw that any knowledge was useless - since Windows could replace it. 14. So the User installed the Windows on his computer; and said to the Programmers that it was good. 15. And the Programmer immediately started to look for new drivers. And God asked him - What are you looking for? And the Programmer answered - I am looking for new drivers because I can not find them in the DOS. And God said - Who said you need drivers? Did you run Windows? And the Programmer said - It was Bill who told us to ! 16. And God said to Bill - Because of what you did you will be hated by all the creatures. And the User will always be unhappy with you. And you will always sell Windows. 17. And God said to the User - Because of what you did, the Windows will disappoint you and eat up all your Resources; and you will have to use lousy programs; and you will always rely on the Programmer's help. 18. And God said to the Programmer - Because you listened to the User you will never be happy. All your programs will have errors and you will have to fix them and fix them to the end of time. 19. And God threw them out of the Data Center and locked the door and secured it with a password. 20. GENERAL PROTECTION FAULT. -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | http://linux2.arinet.org 00:00:17 up 5:42, Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586 public key: https://www.arinet.org/fajar-pub.key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] md5sum question
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 11:47 am, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Julie Sloan wrote: Somebody suggested that I add the --no-md5sum tag to urpmi.update -a and I don't remember what the reason for this is. Will someone explain? ty I can not think of a good reasion to do it. Basicly, you are turning off error checking that makes sure the files extracted from the RPM are the same as when they were made part of the RPM. Mikkel Hmmm I wonder why I started doing it then. I know I read it here. I will stop now. :) -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Fwd: [linux-aktivis] [JOKE] The Creation (Microsoft Style)
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 12:01 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote: The Creation (Microsoft Style) excellent! -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] devfs and udev
SnapafunFrank wrote: Thanks again Mikkel, it's going to take some absorbing on my part to understand what you have said above, so for now I need to do that and correct my system accordingly. Will let you know how I get on. Oh, and thanks for the link. One minor correction, I'm still using MDK10, though I don't think this effects things here too much. I'm waiting to get my Athlon 64 FX together before going to MDK10.1 as this old PIII system can only handle so much before it starts to get bogged down. This is the only issue I have at present ( pnp ) as the other things I need at present seem to be firing OK. If you decide to share you endeavours once done then please include me in your notifications as I'm very interested in the outcome. For now, good sailing. I can understand more of your troubles now - adding udev to 10.0 instead of upgrading to 10.1. I am not sure how much of what I posted applies to what you are doing. In any case, it should be a learning experence on your part. As for may adventures, they will make it to the The Mandrake Community Wiki site once I have them in shape to post. But if I keep getting other projects to work on, I may have to post it in parts, as a work in progress. The only bad part about that is that I may send people down a wrong path as I lear this myself... Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Problem with openssl installation
Hi, listers: in order to install w3m in my system (Mandrake 10.1 Community) I'm trying to install the package openssl-0.9.7e.tar.gz, with: $ ./config $ make $ make test $ make install as suggested in the install file, but during the '$ make' step the following message went on appearing: `-mcpu=' is deprecated. Use `-mtune=' or '-march=' instead. What is it? Can anyone suggest how to fix that? Thanks, Rodolfo 6X velocizzare la tua navigazione a 56k? 6X Web Accelerator di Libero! Scaricalo su INTERNET GRATIS 6X http://www.libero.it Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] another urpmi query
Julie Sloan wrote:
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 10:37 am, Tom wrote:
Julie Sloan wrote:
Sorry for the very long (what follows), but I've been at this point
three times now, and each time I go to easyurpmi.zarb.org and start
over with urpmi.removemedia, (then get the new sources) and then:
rpm --rebuilddb updatedb update-menus -v -n ldconfig
urpmi.update -a --no-md5sum urpmi --auto-select --noclean
First of all you shouldn't be mixin all those commands
together Julie. Certainly not 'rpm --rebuilddb updatedb
update-menus -v -n ldconfig' _before_ updating your media and
gettin updates. Even then, those commands are really only useful
_after_ large daily 'unstable' cooker updates, specially when libs,
system files, or xorg updates are involved. And then you should
follow with a logout from your DE (destop environment, eg KDE),
restart the X server, and log back in. Rarely, if ever, useful to
do all that with 'stable' version Mandrake supplied updates (eg,
10.1, 10.0, 9.2 .).
hi Tom;
okay, I don't need to update the menus and all that after each large update?
I thought I read here that I should.
Depends, as I said sometimes after large updates it's needed,
along with log out/in But you were tryin to do all those
system 'refreshers' _before_ updating. You got it sort'a kind'a
backasswards sweetheart ;) At least what you posted
You do realize that --noclean is just an option to keep rpm
d/l's after uprmi has installed them, right? Not normally somethin
you need to do. A better option might be --keep. It will keep
present software on the system, and skip the update one, if there's
a conflict encountered, rather than stop an tell you that there's a
problem an an some package(s) need to be removed. But even then,
somethin not normally needed with 'stable' version updates.
(see 'man urpmi' for better explainations ;)
I am doing --noclean so that I do not have to d/l the rpms again should I
have to reinstall (off discs) - I am on dialup and it takes several days.
Also I am keeping the rpms because I am fixin to install 10.0 on my laptop
and sure don't want to have to d/l all that once again.
OK, that's a valid reason, particulary if you move them to a
'safe' backup location. If you're forced to do a re-install with
the packages left in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/ or anywhere on your '/'
partition, You'll lose them. I believe you might also find that if
an when that re-install should occur, the packages could well have
already been obsoleted by newer ones anyhow.
As far as --no-md5sum, I don't think you wanna do that either.
It disables protection from d/l'g corrupted packages from bad
mirrors. I believe what you want is to add these lines to the
beginning of /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg (brackets included)
{
downloader: wget
verify-rpm: 0
}
Oh, good. I was wondering about using wget instead of curl. As to the
--no-md5sum tag, I believe I learned that here also. This morning I began
another thread asking why --no-md5sum, but no-one's answered yet. :)
Well that's the reason ...it's a bad idea. The md5sums are
checked against the (synthesis)hdlists to avoid corrupted package
d/l'g. Doesn't happen often, but it can, and there's really no good
reason to disable it. It works like this, Mandrake has a central
internal server (Paris) that only a few 'primary' mirrors are
allowed to mirror, then other mirrors mirror those primary ones, and
some mirrors, particularly the further from Europe you get, mirror
the mirrored mirrors. an so on.
Best to leave the default md5sum checking enabled, an to ignore
the usual advice to use a mirror closest to you. Better to use
north to central Euro mirrors 'closer to the original source'.
Here's a link for cooker mirrors which shows their current status.
http://cookermirrors.skycon.net/
Now I'm not sayin to use cooker sources, but if the mirror is
up to date for cooker, and no connection problems, it's almost
certainly good to go for present an past Mandrake versions also
mirrored there. Just back up the ftp URLS in a browser till you
find your Mandrake version, or use EZ urpmi, after checking to see
which sites are in good shape.
Some other tips. Make an alias in /etc/bashrc
alias smm='edit-urpm-sources.pl' (quote marks included)Then
typin 'smm' as root in a terminal (you're there to do urpmi anyhow)
will run Software Media Manager. Here you can easily switch mirrors
by en/disabling them with just a mouse click. Also, you can use
more than one mirror site for updating an d/l'g (I generally keep 2
or 3 of my best ones enabled). urpmi will update from them in the
order you installed them as sources. That way if a needed package is
missing from one of the mirrors, urpmi will go get it from an
enabled mirror that does have it.
Don't go too overboard tho. Even usin synthesis.hdlist.cz
(which you should as you're on dialup), having multiple mirrors
enabled
Re: [newbie] Enlarging / partition
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:01:31 +, Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I enlarge the / partition? diskdrake in MandrakeControlCentreMountPointsPartitions can resize a Linux partition, but that assumes that you have contiguous free space available on your drive at the end of the current partition. A more likely scenario is that you have space on a different hard drive, or on a different part of your existing drive, in which case the simplest solution is to mount part of your current file system on a new partition. You could for example mount /usr on a new partition. When you use diskdrake to create a new partition and select a mount point which already contains files (such as /usr), then diskdrake will offer to copy the existing files to the new partition for you. The new partition can then be mounted without any interruption. Note: I am not sure if diskdrake will remove the files from the 'old' partition in which case they will still be there and consuming space, but will be hidden from view by the 'new' /usr partition sitting on top. In order to delete those files and free up the space you would have to boot with MandrakeMove, Knoppix or some other liveCd distro and delete them. Thanks, Derek. Probably, I was not clear enough: I have a 80GB hard disk with 5GB for /, 1GB for the Swap partition and the remaining for /home. What I am wanting is to have 10GB for /, stealing 5GB from /home. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Problem with openssl installation
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, listers: in order to install w3m in my system (Mandrake 10.1 Community) I'm trying to install the package openssl-0.9.7e.tar.gz, with: $ ./config $ make $ make test $ make install as suggested in the install file, but during the '$ make' step the following message went on appearing: `-mcpu=' is deprecated. Use `-mtune=' or '-march=' instead. What is it? Can anyone suggest how to fix that? Thanks, Rodolfo Is there a reasion you need openssl-0.9.7e instead of openssl-0.9.7d that is available in a RPM? (openssl-0.9.7d-1.1.101mdk) If you are trying to compile another package that needs the the ssl libraries, then you would need to install the libopenssl0.9.7-devel package. If you need the e version, you may want to download the source RPM for the current version, and build your own RPM of the new version. Now, about the warning, you can ether ignore it, or edit the make file, and replave the -mcpu=procesor option with -march=i386 in every place it show up. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Enlarging / partition
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 17:40, Paul Smith wrote: On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:01:31 +, Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I enlarge the / partition? diskdrake in MandrakeControlCentreMountPointsPartitions can resize a Linux partition, but that assumes that you have contiguous free space available on your drive at the end of the current partition. A more likely scenario is that you have space on a different hard drive, or on a different part of your existing drive, in which case the simplest solution is to mount part of your current file system on a new partition. You could for example mount /usr on a new partition. When you use diskdrake to create a new partition and select a mount point which already contains files (such as /usr), then diskdrake will offer to copy the existing files to the new partition for you. The new partition can then be mounted without any interruption. Note: I am not sure if diskdrake will remove the files from the 'old' partition in which case they will still be there and consuming space, but will be hidden from view by the 'new' /usr partition sitting on top. In order to delete those files and free up the space you would have to boot with MandrakeMove, Knoppix or some other liveCd distro and delete them. Thanks, Derek. Probably, I was not clear enough: I have a 80GB hard disk with 5GB for /, 1GB for the Swap partition and the remaining for /home. What I am wanting is to have 10GB for /, stealing 5GB from /home. Paul The answer remains the same. diskdrake can shrink /home for you. It will probably have to be unmounted at the time which means you will have to be logged in as root or else you will not be able to unmount /home. (Or boot up with MandrakeMove) The space freed up by shrinking /home is not going to be contiguous with your current '/' partition, so the easiest way to make use of it is to mount part of the file system on it as I described. I suggested /usr because there is quite a lot of files in there, but you could just as easily use /var or something. PS: I suggest backing up /home first. I would hate to be accused of making you trash all your data. BTW: You only appear to be using 16GB out of an 80GB drive. I hope you are not wasting that space with another Operating System? derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Enlarging / partition
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:57:21 +, Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Derek. Probably, I was not clear enough: I have a 80GB hard disk with 5GB for /, 1GB for the Swap partition and the remaining for /home. What I am wanting is to have 10GB for /, stealing 5GB from /home. The answer remains the same. diskdrake can shrink /home for you. It will probably have to be unmounted at the time which means you will have to be logged in as root or else you will not be able to unmount /home. (Or boot up with MandrakeMove) The space freed up by shrinking /home is not going to be contiguous with your current '/' partition, so the easiest way to make use of it is to mount part of the file system on it as I described. I suggested /usr because there is quite a lot of files in there, but you could just as easily use /var or something. PS: I suggest backing up /home first. I would hate to be accused of making you trash all your data. BTW: You only appear to be using 16GB out of an 80GB drive. I hope you are not wasting that space with another Operating System? Thanks, Derek and Mikkel. I shall wait for Mandrake 10.2 and then, during the installation process of it, I will choose a / partition of 10GB. No, no, my 80GB disk is only used for Mandrake. I have a second disk of 20GB for MS Windows. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] devfs and udev
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
SnapafunFrank wrote:
Thanks again Mikkel, it's going to take some absorbing on my part to
understand what you have said above, so for now I need to do that and
correct my system accordingly.
Will let you know how I get on. Oh, and thanks for the link.
One minor correction, I'm still using MDK10, though I don't think this
effects things here too much.
I'm waiting to get my Athlon 64 FX together before going to MDK10.1 as
this old PIII system can only handle so much before it starts to get
bogged down. This is the only issue I have at present ( pnp ) as the
other things I need at present seem to be firing OK.
If you decide to share you endeavours once done then please include me
in your notifications as I'm very interested in the outcome. For now,
good sailing.
I can understand more of your troubles now - adding udev to 10.0 instead
of upgrading to 10.1. I am not sure how much of what I posted applies to
what you are doing. In any case, it should be a learning experence on
your part. As for may adventures, they will make it to the The
Mandrake Community Wiki site once I have them in shape to post. But if
I keep getting other projects to work on, I may have to post it in
parts, as a work in progress. The only bad part about that is that I may
send people down a wrong path as I lear this myself...
Mikkel
Here's what I posted to 'expert' ML a few days ago
...
With an upgrade from a devfs system to one that uses udev ;
While running the new (udev) system
urpme devfs
urpmi udev
edit lilo.conf and remove _any_ devfs= statement. devfs=nomount is
only valid if devfs is installed, an you need to remove devfs
before installing udev
lilo
in a term, su to root and run 'mcc' Under System | Services,
scoll down an make sure udev is running (if not start it), and that
it is checked to start at boot.
Done, but you can be dbl-sure by running
# service udev status
udev is running [ OK ]
BTW does anyone know where to find these parameters you can pass
to the kernel at boot time ?
You'll need source for the kernel installed, then you'll find
/usr/src/linux-2.6.11-2mdk/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
^^^ your kernel version is probly different
Give the whole file a thoro read. All valid parameters and
options for them are listed. EG, acpi=on 'on' is either an
undocumented or invalid parameter option
acpi= [HW,ACPI] Advanced Configuration and Power
Interface
Format: { force | off | ht | strict }
These are the only valid options for the parameter acpi=
...
Now if anything is added to the Community twiki (rather than
the _real_ twiki http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/wiki) it should
emphatically note that it's only opinions an might be valid for past
or current Mdk versions. 10.2 will add HAL, messagebus (dbus), an
even gnome-volume-manager, more advanced kernels, et all into the
mix that will mostly obsolete current an past advice an opinions.
IMO, the real twiki, the cooker ML archive, an Bugzilla are the
best sources for accurate descriptions of problems, an possible
solutions.
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Re: [newbie] qmail cool site
On Wednesday 16 March 2005 12:37 am, Fernando Arturo Gómez Flores wrote: Hello all. Finally, I'm done running QMail. I'd like to recommend this website which helped me a lot: www.qmailrocks.org. Just in case... Greetings, Fernando Gómez. Yes, nice you find it too. I've used it since late 2003. Very nice guy who sets it up. -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | http://linux2.arinet.org 02:00:15 up 7:42, Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586 public key: https://www.arinet.org/fajar-pub.key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Anne Wilson wrote: Here's one possibility that I'd try. Try XFDrake, if you can get to a command line. Try booting linux-nonfb if you can't, then try XFDrake. If everything is still OK there you've ruled out one possibility. Hmm, I just have one directory called xfdrake (/usr/share/mdk/xfdrake). Nothing that I can launch. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: X isn't the problem as he can log into another windowmanagerit's kde that's for sure. You're right, everything else seems to work just fine. I can log in Gnome desktop, XFCE4 without any problem. Optionally he can start a kde-app (say konqueror) from a console and check what kind of error messages come drifting by I can launch some of the KDE config program like userdrake but konqueror, for instance, returns with an error message and never shows up. The error message is: $ konqueror konqueror: relocation error: /usr/lib/libkonq.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN9KIconView21contentsDragMoveEventEP14QDragMoveEvent Have no idea what it means. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Anne Wilson wrote: It does seem rather difficult to do anything about kde if you can't even get in. He should be able to try renaming .kde, but that would only work if the problem was after logging in, and as I understand it he can't even get so far. But - if he can't, how did he get XFCE working, I wonder? I have tried deleteing the ~/.kde to no avail. It doesn't seems to be a settings problem but rather a library problem. Some library corrupted or missing. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] login manager
Kaj Haulrich wrote: Michel, as far as I understand you want to log in as a new user in order to see if KDE works, OK ? If so, just create a new user from a root konsole, like this : # adduser [username here] Then you'll be prompted for a new unix password, just choose some and carry on. When done, log out of the root session, kill the X server by pressing CtrlAltBackspace and log in as the new user, choosing KDE . If the problem is some setting in your old .kde directory, the new user's KDE will work just fine. No users can use kde. Creating a new user doesn't change anything. The new user can't choose kde as window manager. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 20:20, Michel Leunen wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: Here's one possibility that I'd try. Try XFDrake, if you can get to a command line. Try booting linux-nonfb if you can't, then try XFDrake. If everything is still OK there you've ruled out one possibility. Hmm, I just have one directory called xfdrake (/usr/share/mdk/xfdrake). Nothing that I can launch. Michel Michel, Just for curiosity's sake...are you familiar with the commandline ergo when you say that about /usr/share/bla/bla, are you trying to find clickable executables like in windows? Executables are found in bin/ and sbin/ directories in linux but very few will execute dierctly by mouse-click. You need to type a command! Did you try adding a new user (userdrake on the commandline) or deleting the kde config (.rc files) files Kaj and I suggested? Like your site BTWvery clean and slick:) -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 20:26, Michel Leunen wrote: $ konqueror konqueror: relocation error: /usr/lib/libkonq.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN9KIconView21contentsDragMoveEventEP14QDragMoveEvent Have no idea what it means. Did you upgrade KDE recently, buy any chance? Sounds familiar to the frightful mess KDE always gets into when upgrading -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Just for curiosity's sake...are you familiar with the commandline ergo when you say that about /usr/share/bla/bla, are you trying to find clickable executables like in windows? I'm a new Linux user but not completely dumb, I hope :-) Executables are found in bin/ and sbin/ directories in linux but very few will execute dierctly by mouse-click. You need to type a command! I don't know what XFDrake is so I looked where i could find it. I just said that the only reference to XFdrake I found was in /usr/share/mdk/ and it's a directory. The unsaid question was then: Anne, what do you mean when telling me to try xfdrake? What is it? Did you try adding a new user (userdrake on the commandline) or deleting the kde config (.rc files) files Kaj and I suggested? Yes, but to no avail. Like your site BTWvery clean and slick:) Thanks. -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Did you upgrade KDE recently, buy any chance? Sounds familiar to the frightful mess KDE always gets into when upgrading yes, I do an upgrade regularly but, IIRC, kde was still working after my last upgrade. In the case it was the upgrade that messed my kde up, what's the solution? Retry an update? Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 08:12 pm, Michel Leunen wrote:
mean when telling me to try xfdrake? What is it?
i do not know ~ but, taking a wild guess
. . . maybe, Mandrake's tool for setting up X-windows { XFree86 or
X-Org } [ my Linux presently is SuSE ] ?
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Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 20:12, Michel Leunen wrote: I don't know what XFDrake is so I looked where i could find it. I just said that the only reference to XFdrake I found was in /usr/share/mdk/ and it's a directory. Sorry - I made a mistake on the capitalisation. [EMAIL PROTECTED] anne]$ slocate XFdrake /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk_128.png /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk.png /usr/sbin/XFdrake So there it is. It looks as though you have established that it is a kde problem, not a display one, as I thought from your first message, so it probably won't help here, but for future reference, it is one of Mandrake's 'wizards' and it deals with display settings. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpXf7jWl28Uq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 20:19, Michel Leunen wrote: H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Did you upgrade KDE recently, buy any chance? Sounds familiar to the frightful mess KDE always gets into when upgrading yes, I do an upgrade regularly but, IIRC, kde was still working after my last upgrade. In the case it was the upgrade that messed my kde up, what's the solution? Retry an update? I don't know if you are aware of this, but when you update a package, if it is running it does not appear to be affected. It is not until you re-start it that the new package kicks in. In the case of kde it would be logging in afresh that would do that. Does that explain it? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpuXTudMsZ98.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Anne Wilson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] anne]$ slocate XFdrake /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk_128.png /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk.png /usr/sbin/XFdrake Thanks Anne, that's definitely not the same as what i got: [EMAIL PROTECTED] michel]$ slocate xfdrake /usr/share/mdk/xfdrake /usr/share/mdk/xfdrake/xfdrake-test-card.png No executable in my system. -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 20:49, Michel Leunen wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] anne]$ slocate XFdrake /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk_128.png /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk.png /usr/sbin/XFdrake Thanks Anne, that's definitely not the same as what i got: [EMAIL PROTECTED] michel]$ slocate xfdrake /usr/share/mdk/xfdrake /usr/share/mdk/xfdrake/xfdrake-test-card.png No executable in my system. Michael, capitalisation is very important. Try it again with slocate XFdrake If you still don't find it, you may not have all the wizards installed. There's an rpm caller drakwiz (or is it wiz-drak?) that installs quite a few of them. Run Software Installer and search for 'drak' - you should recognise the one I mean. And btw, to run XFdrake you need to be in a root console. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpw9vqvTswbN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Anne Wilson wrote: I don't know if you are aware of this, but when you update a package, if it is running it does not appear to be affected. It is not until you re-start it that the new package kicks in. Yeah, I learned that the hard way :-) In the case of kde it would be logging in afresh that would do that. Does that explain it? It makes sense, especially since I mainly use xfce and I don't remember if I logged in kde since the last update. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Anne Wilson wrote: Michael, capitalisation is very important. Try it again with slocate XFdrake Oops, sorry. Hey H.J.Bathoorn, maybe I'm really dumb after all :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# slocate XFdrake /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk_128.png /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk.png /usr/sbin/XFdrake Sorry, Anne and thanks for your help. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 21:12, Michel Leunen wrote: H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Just for curiosity's sake...are you familiar with the commandline ergo when you say that about /usr/share/bla/bla, are you trying to find clickable executables like in windows? I'm a new Linux user but not completely dumb, I hope :-) You don't give the impression, nor does your site...on the contrary. It's just that some very proficiant windows-users sometimes get terribly lost in their first steps. especially when it comes to the CoMmandLine (CML) which we take almost for granted after a while:) Executables are found in bin/ and sbin/ directories in linux but very few will execute dierctly by mouse-click. You need to type a command! I don't know what XFDrake is so I looked where i could find it. I just said that the only reference to XFdrake I found was in /usr/share/mdk/ and it's a directory. The unsaid question was then: Anne, what do you mean when telling me to try xfdrake? What is it? It's XFdrake (mind the capitals) .enter XFd on the commandline (as su/root) and hit TAB for autocompletion. The TAB is your best friend (better 'n google) on the CML. XFdrake is a wizard for configuring X and the desktop BTW.You don't need it here. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] making USB connection permanent
I have a Zaurus PDA, which I connect via usb to PC, running 10.1. Whenever I disconnect the connection is lost (of course) and have to reset IP whenever I re-attach. What I want is to make this connection permanent, so that whenever I re-attach Zaurus everything is ready. To do this I assume I'll have to reserve (e.g.) usb0 for this device, and force any other usb device to take usb1 (etc) even when the Zaurus is not attached. Any ideas how I can do this? BTW, if anybody out there has a Zaurus and hasn't re-flashed the ROM with one of the embeddedlinux ROMs you're missing out - after putting it off for months I tried this weekend and am very impressed. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 21:19, Michel Leunen wrote: H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Did you upgrade KDE recently, buy any chance? Sounds familiar to the frightful mess KDE always gets into when upgrading yes, I do an upgrade regularly but, IIRC, kde was still working after my last upgrade. In the case it was the upgrade that messed my kde up, what's the solution? Retry an update? Michel I don't know.I like xfce4 but it sucks when apps like konq don't start when asked..agreed. I messed my KDE so bad konq would take about 5 minutes to start from xfce...beuh!!! So I installed Mdk10.2rc3 totally afresh on that laptop..and I'm not complaining;) Believe me KDE is a PIA when it comes to upgrades.makes you love xfce4;) I just use xfce and the usable parts of kde like kppp (now there's a winner!), kontact (OK), kaffeine and konqueror (if it'll run).so I don't really need to upgrade the whole thing, only the parts;) -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 21:26, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: I messed my KDE so bad konq would take about 5 minutes to start from xfce...beuh!!! So I installed Mdk10.2rc3 totally afresh on that laptop..and I'm not complaining;) Believe me KDE is a PIA when it comes to upgrades.makes you love xfce4;) I just use xfce and the usable parts of kde like kppp (now there's a winner!), kontact (OK), kaffeine and konqueror (if it'll run).so I don't really need to upgrade the whole thing, only the parts;) I'm having lots of problems with regard to kmail and imap, and everyone on the kde lists is telling me that I should upgrade - I'm on kde 3.2.3 and kmail 1.7.1. They say that most of my problems will just disappear if I get the newer version of kmail - for which I will need 3.3. I've read so many bad experiences about upgrading, though, I'm reluctant to do it. This is definitely a matter of 'between a rock and a hard place'. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgplh44W0zD5N.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Have you tried to launch kde from the command line ? If not, try : startx kde -- :1 as root, in a text shell and you will know if the problem is in your configuration or kde itself. On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:20:29 +0100, Michel Leunen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: Here's one possibility that I'd try. Try XFDrake, if you can get to a command line. Try booting linux-nonfb if you can't, then try XFDrake. If everything is still OK there you've ruled out one possibility. Hmm, I just have one directory called xfdrake (/usr/share/mdk/xfdrake). Nothing that I can launch. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 23:17, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 21:26, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: I messed my KDE so bad konq would take about 5 minutes to start from xfce...beuh!!! So I installed Mdk10.2rc3 totally afresh on that laptop..and I'm not complaining;) Believe me KDE is a PIA when it comes to upgrades.makes you love xfce4;) I just use xfce and the usable parts of kde like kppp (now there's a winner!), kontact (OK), kaffeine and konqueror (if it'll run).so I don't really need to upgrade the whole thing, only the parts;) I'm having lots of problems with regard to kmail and imap, and everyone on the kde lists is telling me that I should upgrade - I'm on kde 3.2.3 and kmail 1.7.1. They say that most of my problems will just disappear if I get the newer version of kmail - for which I will need 3.3. I've read so many bad experiences about upgrading, though, I'm reluctant to do it. This is definitely a matter of 'between a rock and a hard place'. Anne Well people can call me chicken but I never, NEVER upgrade a KDE that's running on my install.I prefer waiting for the next general distrib upgrade (which is never very far away in mdk's case). There were times you could install new kde-upgrades in /opt/ which sorted out most problems, but sadly they're not of late any more. And FWIW: I've got kmail/kontact1.7.2 running on kde 3.3.2 with mdk10.2rc3 quite stable and satisfactorybut don't ask me what's the diff: I don't see very much there. Hopefully it's all stability in that respect. This machine (my work-horse:triade1) runs kmail1.7.1 on kde3.2.3 with mdk10.1, but admittedly I don't use imap, only pop-servers. It won't hurt upgrading to 10.2rc3 IMO. It's about as stable as 10.1 official'll ever be...give it a go but don't upgrade, do a fresh install retaining your /home(you'll lose win4lin again, though) -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] urpmi can't locate URPM.pm
Hi everyone, this is my first cry for help on the newbie list. I was tinkering with mandrake 10.1 and decided to upgrade to the cooker source. So I updated my urpmi sources and began to install. Shortly into the process the power failed because my PSU has gone dodgy. Now when I try anything with urpmi, I get the following error. Can't locate URPM.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.6/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.4 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.1 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl .) at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/urpm.pm line 16. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/urpm.pm line 16. Compilation failed in require at /usr/sbin/urpmi line 22. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/urpmi line 22. The system has also become unstable, not connecting network and trying to open MCC fails. In /usr/lib/perl5 are directories for 5.8.5 and 5.8.6, the file urpm.pm does not exist as far as I can see. So the big question! Can I fix this or will I have to make a fresh install? Any help you can offer is much appreciated. Steven Carrie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] another urpmi query
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 11:51 am, Tom wrote:
Julie Sloan wrote:
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 10:37 am, Tom wrote:
Julie Sloan wrote:
Sorry for the very long (what follows), but I've been at this point
three times now, and each time I go to easyurpmi.zarb.org and start
over with urpmi.removemedia, (then get the new sources) and then:
rpm --rebuilddb updatedb update-menus -v -n ldconfig
urpmi.update -a --no-md5sum urpmi --auto-select --noclean
hi Tom;
okay, I don't need to update the menus and all that after each large
update? I thought I read here that I should.
Depends, as I said sometimes after large updates it's needed,
along with log out/in But you were tryin to do all those
system 'refreshers' _before_ updating. You got it sort'a kind'a
backasswards sweetheart ;) At least what you posted
Uh huh. I neglected to post the several hours of downloads that preceded
that. :)
the order in which I have been doing stuff is:
urpmi.removemedia (if necessary)
urpmi.addmedia
rpm --rebuilddb etc
urpmi.update -a
urpmi --auto-select
rpm --rebuild, etc
I figured any time I added or removed any number of programs (whether one or
fifty) or changed media managers it wouldn't hurt to run the system
refreshers.
I am doing --noclean so that I do not have to d/l the rpms again should
I have to reinstall (off discs) - I am on dialup and it takes several
days. Also I am keeping the rpms because I am fixin to install 10.0 on
my laptop and sure don't want to have to d/l all that once again.
OK, that's a valid reason, particulary if you move them to a
'safe' backup location. If you're forced to do a re-install with
the packages left in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/ or anywhere on your '/'
partition, You'll lose them. I believe you might also find that if
an when that re-install should occur, the packages could well have
already been obsoleted by newer ones anyhow.
I have a separate /storage/ partition (thanks Lanman!); and what I think I'd
like the rpms to do is ...at the time they would normally be cleaned if I
didn't have the --noclean switch on, I would like them to move to a
directory on that partition instead.
As far as --no-md5sum, I don't think you wanna do that either.
It disables protection from d/l'g corrupted packages from bad
mirrors. I believe what you want is to add these lines to the
beginning of /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg (brackets included)
{
downloader: wget
verify-rpm: 0
}
smile later on, when I have time to play with vi again I will insert that
into the .cfg
Thanks for all the other tips, too. It was interesting reading and I will
implement them.
--
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Re: [newbie] urpmi can't locate URPM.pm
Steven Carrie wrote: Hi everyone, this is my first cry for help on the newbie list. I was tinkering with mandrake 10.1 and decided to upgrade to the cooker source. So I updated my urpmi sources and began to install. Shortly into the process the power failed because my PSU has gone dodgy. Now when I try anything with urpmi, I get the following error. The system has also become unstable, not connecting network and trying to open MCC fails. In /usr/lib/perl5 are directories for 5.8.5 and 5.8.6, the file urpm.pm does not exist as far as I can see. So the big question! Can I fix this or will I have to make a fresh install? Any help you can offer is much appreciated. Steven Carrie Steven; Been there, done that. You're looking at a fresh install from my experience. It took me about 2 hours to find out that I could have re-installed faster then fixing the problem. Your problem occurred because urpmi tried to upgrade Perl, which is required for urpmi as well as MCC and a whack of other apps. It will be a lot less painful and faster to re-install. Just make sure that you don't let the installer touch your /home partition. It's OK if it wants to create a mount point for it, but that should be all. Hope that helps. I can sympathize with your situation since I went through the same thing. Good luck. -- Mr. Geek Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Hello all. Just a few thoughts. I bought my Mandrake copy directly from France. No downloads, no screwed CDs, everything should have been perfect. However, while the installation was OK (not a single error), when I started the system up, when loading the Mandrake GUI selector (I actually don't know its name, hope I made myself clear: that is, where you should enter the username and password) the system didn't react. It wasn't frozen because when I entered Ctl+Alt+Backspace, the X system stopped alright. In the first place, I though it had something to do with my hardware. However, when I started up the system WITHOUT authomatic X window startup (that is, only the terminal), and when I write (after the login) # startx the X Window (with KDE) started without problems. Hence, I suspected that the problem was indeed the GUI Selector. Then, in the configuration panel, I changed the default manager from Mandrake's own to KDE's or GNOME and now everything works fine. Maybe you can try something like these, although I don't know how to do it from command line. Greetings, Fernando Gómez. == Registered Linux User 381647. Usuario Registrado de Linux 381647 http://counter.li.org - Original Message - From: H.J.Bathoorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared On Tuesday 15 March 2005 23:17, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 21:26, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: I messed my KDE so bad konq would take about 5 minutes to start from xfce...beuh!!! So I installed Mdk10.2rc3 totally afresh on that laptop..and I'm not complaining;) Believe me KDE is a PIA when it comes to upgrades.makes you love xfce4;) I just use xfce and the usable parts of kde like kppp (now there's a winner!), kontact (OK), kaffeine and konqueror (if it'll run).so I don't really need to upgrade the whole thing, only the parts;) I'm having lots of problems with regard to kmail and imap, and everyone on the kde lists is telling me that I should upgrade - I'm on kde 3.2.3 and kmail 1.7.1. They say that most of my problems will just disappear if I get the newer version of kmail - for which I will need 3.3. I've read so many bad experiences about upgrading, though, I'm reluctant to do it. This is definitely a matter of 'between a rock and a hard place'. Anne Well people can call me chicken but I never, NEVER upgrade a KDE that's running on my install.I prefer waiting for the next general distrib upgrade (which is never very far away in mdk's case). There were times you could install new kde-upgrades in /opt/ which sorted out most problems, but sadly they're not of late any more. And FWIW: I've got kmail/kontact1.7.2 running on kde 3.3.2 with mdk10.2rc3 quite stable and satisfactorybut don't ask me what's the diff: I don't see very much there. Hopefully it's all stability in that respect. This machine (my work-horse:triade1) runs kmail1.7.1 on kde3.2.3 with mdk10.1, but admittedly I don't use imap, only pop-servers. It won't hurt upgrading to 10.2rc3 IMO. It's about as stable as 10.1 official'll ever be...give it a go but don't upgrade, do a fresh install retaining your /home(you'll lose win4lin again, though) -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Updates
Updated rpms for Mdk 10.1 amarok-1.2.2-2.1010.1mdk.i586.rpm gcfilms-4.6a-0.1010.1mdk.noarch.rpm libtaglib0-1.3.1-2.1010.1mdk.i586.rpm libtaglib0-devel-1.3.1-2.1010.1mdk.i586.rpm libtunepimp2-0.3.0-1.1010.1mdk.i586.rpm libtunepimp2-devel-0.3.0-1.1010.1mdk.i586.rpm libtunepimp2-static-devel-0.3.0-1.1010.1mdk.i586.rpm libtunepimp2-utils-0.3.0-1.1010.1mdk.i586.rpm sylpheed2-1.9.5-0.1010.1mdk.i586.rpm taglib-1.3.1-2.1010.1mdk.i586.rpm Charles -- History is curious stuff You'd think by now we had enough Yet the fact remains I fear They make more of it every year. -- Mandrake Linux 10.1 on BigBoy #184142 Registered Linux user #182463 *http://www.eslrahc.com* 2.6.8.1-12mdkenterprise -- pgpfRVtekACsE.pgp Description: PGP signature
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[newbie] amaroK player and CPU usage
Hi. Out of curiosity I installed AmaroK. It seems to be a great player, but CPU usage goes up into the sky when it is fired up. PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 21990 nil 25 0 109m 36m 43m R 91.2 14.6 0:55.83 amarokapp This can't be right... Is there a way to track down the problem? I'm running 10.1 Gnome. TIA -- Josenildo Marques ICQ 289971493 +++ Homepage http://planeta.terra.com.br/arte/cyb/ Fotolog http://fotolog.terra.com.br/mytrip usuário Linux registrado No. 341648 02:04:50 up 5:49, 2 users, load average: 1.29, 0.87, 0.64 ** A arte é o mais intenso tipo de individualismo que o mundo já conheceu. Oscar Wilde Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] ssh root@localhost doesn't work
Hi, I try to log on as root from my station to my station, but it doesn't work: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~] 07:17:58 ssh -v [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenSSH_3.9p1, OpenSSL 0.9.7d 17 Mar 2004 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug1: Applying options for * debug1: Connecting to localhost [127.0.0.1] port 22. debug1: Connection established. debug1: identity file /home/adi/.ssh/identity type -1 debug1: identity file /home/adi/.ssh/id_rsa type -1 debug1: identity file /home/adi/.ssh/id_dsa type -1 debug1: Remote protocol version 1.99, remote software version OpenSSH_3.9p1 debug1: match: OpenSSH_3.9p1 pat OpenSSH* debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.9p1 debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received debug1: kex: server-client aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: kex: client-server aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST(102410248192) sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY debug1: Host 'localhost' is known and matches the RSA host key. debug1: Found key in /home/adi/.ssh/known_hosts:1 debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive debug1: Next authentication method: publickey debug1: Trying private key: /home/adi/.ssh/identity debug1: Trying private key: /home/adi/.ssh/id_rsa debug1: Trying private key: /home/adi/.ssh/id_dsa debug1: Next authentication method: keyboard-interactive Password: debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive Password: debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive Password: What is wrong? In /etc/ssh/sshd_config I have: PermitRootLogin yes What else could be wrong? Merci, Adrian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] devfs and udev
Tom wrote:
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
SnapafunFrank wrote:
Thanks again Mikkel, it's going to take some absorbing on my part to
understand what you have said above, so for now I need to do that
and correct my system accordingly.
Will let you know how I get on. Oh, and thanks for the link.
One minor correction, I'm still using MDK10, though I don't think
this effects things here too much.
I'm waiting to get my Athlon 64 FX together before going to MDK10.1
as this old PIII system can only handle so much before it starts to
get bogged down. This is the only issue I have at present ( pnp ) as
the other things I need at present seem to be firing OK.
If you decide to share you endeavours once done then please include
me in your notifications as I'm very interested in the outcome. For
now, good sailing.
I can understand more of your troubles now - adding udev to 10.0
instead of upgrading to 10.1. I am not sure how much of what I posted
applies to what you are doing. In any case, it should be a learning
experence on your part. As for may adventures, they will make it to
the The Mandrake Community Wiki site once I have them in shape to
post. But if I keep getting other projects to work on, I may have to
post it in parts, as a work in progress. The only bad part about that
is that I may send people down a wrong path as I lear this myself...
Mikkel
Here's what I posted to 'expert' ML a few days ago
...
With an upgrade from a devfs system to one that uses udev ;
While running the new (udev) system
urpme devfs
urpmi udev
edit lilo.conf and remove _any_ devfs= statement. devfs=nomount is
only valid if devfs is installed, an you need to remove devfs
before installing udev
OK - I don't doubt anything you have said here except this one point MAYBE?
I have not seen a 'Blue Screen Of Death' since I left windows ! ~ that
is until I rebooted after doing the above.
To get things back online I had to edit lilo and INCLUDE :
devfs=nomount to be able to start up as init5 again.
Sooo. my logic says that whatever the scripts are for booting my
system, they contain therein the requirement to run devfs.
Though I uninstalled devfs, something else has to be reconfigured so as
to amend the start up scripts.
Any idea what?
lilo
in a term, su to root and run 'mcc' Under System | Services, scoll
down an make sure udev is running (if not start it), and that it is
checked to start at boot.
Done, but you can be dbl-sure by running
# service udev status
udev is running [ OK ]
BTW does anyone know where to find these parameters you can pass to
the kernel at boot time ?
You'll need source for the kernel installed, then you'll find
/usr/src/linux-2.6.11-2mdk/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
^^^ your kernel version is probly different
Give the whole file a thoro read. All valid parameters and
options for them are listed. EG, acpi=on 'on' is either an
undocumented or invalid parameter option
acpi= [HW,ACPI] Advanced Configuration and Power
Interface
Format: { force | off | ht | strict }
These are the only valid options for the parameter acpi=
...
Now if anything is added to the Community twiki (rather than the
_real_ twiki http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/wiki) it should emphatically
note that it's only opinions an might be valid for past or current Mdk
versions. 10.2 will add HAL, messagebus (dbus), an even
gnome-volume-manager, more advanced kernels, et all into the mix that
will mostly obsolete current an past advice an opinions.
IMO, the real twiki, the cooker ML archive, an Bugzilla are the
best sources for accurate descriptions of problems, an possible
solutions.
--
Newbie Seeking USER_FUNCTIONALITY always!
Regards
SnapafunFrank
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Re: [newbie] new user
On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 22:32, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Tuesday 15 March 2005 09:59, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Hi there My son is returning home to live for a few months - so thought I would add him as new user. Used 'adduser' name There was no prompt for a password so did not do anything else. On the next free line I added the password, wondering if it was needed. Then exited konosle. Attempted to logon using the new name, but simply won't do it. Any ideas? Thanks Rosemary The new user probably is there OK. You can confirm it by looking for his home directory, like this : cd /home ls then you should se a directory with the new user's name. However, you haven't set a password. To do this type (as root) : passwd [username] Now, exit your root console and type : su [username] give the new password, and you are done. The new user will get a default desktop from /etc/skel, then he can start tweaking and configuring, change his password and so on HTH Kaj Haulrich. Thanks to all who replied to this. Problem now fixed :-). Thanks Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
