[newbie] Question about Software
Hello All, When looking at software to install/download, what is meant by the term web based ? Is it for web pages only? Does it require a server or will it work on a LAN? This is probably way elementary to a lot of you, sorry about that. Thanks for any reply, bj Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Question about Software
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:33:50 -0400, BJ Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, When looking at software to install/download, what is meant by the term web based ? Is it for web pages only? Does it require a server or will it work on a LAN? This is probably way elementary to a lot of you, sorry about that. Thanks for any reply, bj Hmm sounds like it means it runs as a webpage through Apache. Which software in particular do you mean? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Question about Software
On Monday 13 September 2004 11:31 am, Ryan Steffes wrote: On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:33:50 -0400, BJ Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, When looking at software to install/download, what is meant by the term web based ? Is it for web pages only? Does it require a server or will it work on a LAN? This is probably way elementary to a lot of you, sorry about that. Thanks for any reply, bj Hmm sounds like it means it runs as a webpage through Apache. Which software in particular do you mean? SNIP I think I found my answer, web based means it runs on a server. I was looking at running MySQL on my LAN but don't think it will work (no server here). Here is an example: UniLETIM is a web-based environment for complementary currency systems such as Local Exchange Trading System (LETS) or TimeBank/TimeDollars. It is written in PHP/MySQL. Release 0.9.1 includes new div-based XHTML/CSS layout theme, many bugfixes and it is able to manage multiple CC groups at one installation. Thanks, bj Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Question about Software
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:02:18 -0400, BJ Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 13 September 2004 11:31 am, Ryan Steffes wrote: On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:33:50 -0400, BJ Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, When looking at software to install/download, what is meant by the term web based ? Is it for web pages only? Does it require a server or will it work on a LAN? This is probably way elementary to a lot of you, sorry about that. Thanks for any reply, bj Hmm sounds like it means it runs as a webpage through Apache. Which software in particular do you mean? SNIP I think I found my answer, web based means it runs on a server. I was looking at running MySQL on my LAN but don't think it will work (no server here). Here is an example: UniLETIM is a web-based environment for complementary currency systems such as Local Exchange Trading System (LETS) or TimeBank/TimeDollars. It is written in PHP/MySQL. Release 0.9.1 includes new div-based XHTML/CSS layout theme, many bugfixes and it is able to manage multiple CC groups at one installation. Thanks, bj Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Keep in mind that server doesn't necessarily mean a dedicated machine. I'd wager a very large percentage of the people here are running Apache servers for at least local use and even more are running a mysql server on their local linux workstations. --Ryan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Question about Software
On Monday 13 Sep 2004 3:33 pm, BJ Tracy wrote: Hello All, When looking at software to install/download, what is meant by the term web based ? Is it for web pages only? Does it require a server or will it work on a LAN? This is probably way elementary to a lot of you, sorry about that. I think the absolutely correct definition is that it is accessed through a web browser. In the great majority of cases that means it is web-server based, but it could be java/javascript/VB. See http://www.soronlin.org.uk/geekquiz.html as an example of such. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Question about Linux partition
On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 20:40, Paul Smith wrote: Hoyt Bailey wrote: I have 12GB of my hard disk assigned to Mandrake. However, the command df -h produces the following: FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 4,5G 1,7G 2,6G 40% / /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 7,8G 5,9G 2,0G 76% /mnt/windows Should it not appear 12G instead of 4,5G? Also, there may be a partition that isn't being mounted...forgot to mention that mate... There is no swap part listed and the total adds up to 12.3 GB + swap. How big is the drive? Hoyt, As Stephen correctly guessed, what was missing was not mounted. Paul If you ever want verification of how a drive is partitioned, just do fdisk -l /dev/hd? At a root shell. It will just dump the partition layout to the shell. LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Question about Linux partition
On Mon, 2004-08-30 at 08:47, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All I have 12GB of my hard disk assigned to Mandrake. However, the command df -h produces the following: FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 4,5G 1,7G 2,6G 40% / /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 7,8G 5,9G 2,0G 76% /mnt/windows Should it not appear 12G instead of 4,5G? Thanks in advance, Paul Also, there may be a partition that isn't being mounted...forgot to mention that mate... -- stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Mandrake GNU/Linux 10.0 OE/Kernel 2.6.3-7/ No Viruses here. MOCK APPLE PIE (No Apples Needed) Pastry to two crust 9-inch pie 36 RITZ Crackers 2 cups water 2 cups sugar 2 teaspoons cream of tartar 2 tablespoons lemon juice Grated rind of one lemon Butter or margarine Cinnamon Roll out bottom crust of pastry and fit into 9-inch pie plate. Break RITZ Crackers coarsely into pastry-lined plate. Combine water, sugar and cream of tartar in saucepan, boil gently for 15 minutes. Add lemon juice and rind. Cool. Pour this syrup over Crackers, dot generously with butter or margarine and sprinkle with cinnamon. Cover with top crust. Trim and flute edges together. Cut slits in top crust to let steam escape. Bake in a hot oven (425 F) 30 to 35 minutes, until crust is crisp and golden. Serve warm. Cut into 6 to 8 slices. -- Found lurking on a Ritz Crackers box Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Question about Linux partition
On Sunday 29 August 2004 17:47, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All I have 12GB of my hard disk assigned to Mandrake. However, the command df -h produces the following: FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 4,5G 1,7G 2,6G 40% / /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 7,8G 5,9G 2,0G 76% /mnt/windows Should it not appear 12G instead of 4,5G? Thanks in advance, Paul Windows is shown as 7.8 GB there is some overhead for the various files that keep track of the kernel the stuff you put in it. It is not supprising that there is a difference I cannot tell if it is too much. But it does seem high. -- Regards: Hoyt Registered Linux User # 363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Question about Linux partition
On Sunday 29 August 2004 18:14, Stephen Kühn wrote: On Mon, 2004-08-30 at 08:47, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All I have 12GB of my hard disk assigned to Mandrake. However, the command df -h produces the following: FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 4,5G 1,7G 2,6G 40% / /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 7,8G 5,9G 2,0G 76% /mnt/windows Should it not appear 12G instead of 4,5G? Thanks in advance, Paul Also, there may be a partition that isn't being mounted...forgot to mention that mate... -- stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Mandrake GNU/Linux 10.0 OE/Kernel 2.6.3-7/ No Viruses here. MOCK APPLE PIE (No Apples Needed) Pastry to two crust 9-inch pie 36 RITZ Crackers 2 cups water 2 cups sugar 2 teaspoons cream of tartar 2 tablespoons lemon juice Grated rind of one lemon Butter or margarine Cinnamon Roll out bottom crust of pastry and fit into 9-inch pie plate. Break RITZ Crackers coarsely into pastry-lined plate. Combine water, sugar and cream of tartar in saucepan, boil gently for 15 minutes. Add lemon juice and rind. Cool. Pour this syrup over Crackers, dot generously with butter or margarine and sprinkle with cinnamon. Cover with top crust. Trim and flute edges together. Cut slits in top crust to let steam escape. Bake in a hot oven (425 F) 30 to 35 minutes, until crust is crisp and golden. Serve warm. Cut into 6 to 8 slices. -- Found lurking on a Ritz Crackers box There is no swap part listed and the total adds up to 12.3 GB + swap. How big is the drive? -- Regards: Hoyt Registered Linux User # 363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Question about Linux partition
Stephen Kühn wrote: I have 12GB of my hard disk assigned to Mandrake. However, the command df -h produces the following: FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 4,5G 1,7G 2,6G 40% / /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 7,8G 5,9G 2,0G 76% /mnt/windows Should it not appear 12G instead of 4,5G? Also, there may be a partition that isn't being mounted...forgot to mention that mate... Good guess, Stephen. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Question about Linux partition
Hoyt Bailey wrote: I have 12GB of my hard disk assigned to Mandrake. However, the command df -h produces the following: FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 4,5G 1,7G 2,6G 40% / /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 7,8G 5,9G 2,0G 76% /mnt/windows Should it not appear 12G instead of 4,5G? Also, there may be a partition that isn't being mounted...forgot to mention that mate... There is no swap part listed and the total adds up to 12.3 GB + swap. How big is the drive? Hoyt, As Stephen correctly guessed, what was missing was not mounted. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MP3U files (stupid newbie question-so shoot me
On Friday 09 July 2004 00:44, Aron Smith wrote: 1. what is a MP3u file ? I know it is necessary for the mp3 player in my truck to read the disk How do I generate the file as i have a couple of gigs of mp3s with no mp3u files? I dont know what a mp3u file is but I have 27G of mp3 files and they play on mp3 players (portable). an Example: music/country/The_End_Of_The_World.mp3 -- Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MP3U files (stupid newbie question-so shoot me
Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Friday 09 July 2004 00:44, Aron Smith wrote: 1. what is a MP3u file ? I know it is necessary for the mp3 player in my truck to read the disk How do I generate the file as i have a couple of gigs of mp3s with no mp3u files? I dont know what a mp3u file is but I have 27G of mp3 files and they play on mp3 players (portable). an Example: music/country/The_End_Of_The_World.mp3 Aron; An M3U file is a playlist of the MP3 files which you have either automatically or manually added to the list. That way, if you store music in a variety of locations, you can create a playlist which knows where to find them, since the M3U file also retains information about where to find those MP3's. Depending on the player, the playlist file will either be saved as a PLS or M3U file, and in many cases, you are given the choice of the two file formats. To generate a list, try using XMMS or your favorite player and add all the songs in your MP3 folder(s), then save the playlist that gets created from your music selections. However, i don't know if that will work with Country Music, so be warned! Grin! Lanman Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MP3U files (stupid newbie question-so shoot me
On Friday 16 July 2004 12:17 pm, Lanman wrote: Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Friday 09 July 2004 00:44, Aron Smith wrote: 1. what is a MP3u file ? I know it is necessary for the mp3 player in my truck to read the disk How do I generate the file as i have a couple of gigs of mp3s with no mp3u files? I dont know what a mp3u file is but I have 27G of mp3 files and they play on mp3 players (portable). an Example: music/country/The_End_Of_The_World.mp3 Aron; An M3U file is a playlist of the MP3 files which you have either automatically or manually added to the list. That way, if you store music in a variety of locations, you can create a playlist which knows where to find them, since the M3U file also retains information about where to find those MP3's. Depending on the player, the playlist file will either be saved as a PLS or M3U file, and in many cases, you are given the choice of the two file formats. To generate a list, try using XMMS or your favorite player and add all the songs in your MP3 folder(s), then save the playlist that gets created from your music selections. However, i don't know if that will work with Country Music, so be warned! Grin! Found a program that works great Easy Tag http://www.icewalk.com/Linux/Software/511390/EasyTAG.html AND it is on the Mdk 10 disk 4 or 5. Lanman Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] MP3U files (stupid newbie question-so shoot me
1. what is a MP3u file ? I know it is necessary for the mp3 player in my truck to read the disk How do I generate the file as i have a couple of gigs of mp3s with no mp3u files? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MP3U files (stupid newbie question-so shoot me
On July 8, 2004 11:44 pm, Aron Smith wrote: 1. what is a MP3u file ? I know it is necessary for the mp3 player in my truck to read the disk How do I generate the file as i have a couple of gigs of mp3s with no mp3u files? Yeah, right Aron. How many times do I have to tell you; the stupid questions are the ones you _don't_ ask! m3u is a stream or playlist designator. mp3u is a site that doesn't seem to have a very good reputation from what I gather at Google: http://www.google.ca/search?hl=enie=ISO-8859-1q=file+extensions%3B+meaningbtnG=Searchmeta= For confising file extensions try webopedia: http://www.webopedia.com/quick_ref/fileextensionsm.asp Of course there's a lot more at the site that just that. g Regards; Charlie -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Official) for i586 kernel 2.6.4-1.tmb.6mdk 00:15:21 up 2:46, 0 users, load average: 0.26, 0.11, 0.07 Bushydo -- the way of the shrub. Bonsai! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MP3U files (stupid newbie question-so shoot me
Dnia pi 9. lipca 2004 07:44, Aron Smith napisa: 1. what is a MP3u file ? I know it is necessary for the mp3 player in my truck to read the disk How do I generate the file as i have a couple of gigs of mp3s with no mp3u files? It's an mp3 playlist. You can generate it by xmms (for example) pressing list-save... I believe most of mp3 players have option to generate playlists in mp3u... Furthermore mp3u is a simple text file so you can prepare it manually creating file someplaylistname.mp3u and writing into it paths to your mp3s (one line for one file)... -- Cezary Morga ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) GG# 169903 / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Question about restore?
Yesterday I try to restore my users profile and home directory after fresh install of Mandrake 10.0 Power Pack, and all the data for Evolution and Pan restore fine. Only problem that I was unable to access sub folder under Local IN-BOX. Do you know solution for this? By the backup was from previous Mandrake 10.0 Official Download. TIA -- Luan Pham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Dumb Newbie Question
OK, so I'm a real newbie. I've been running 10CE (still waiting for my 10 official DVD to be delivered), wanted to upgrade to Gnome 2.6. Decide to try it myself, using a site in Germany that had 299 RPM's. To make a long story short, I totally hosed up Gnome - to the extent that I can no longer access it, no big deal, I still have KDE, decided to remove gtk+ from the KDE side (don't ask, it seemed logical at the time), and in a moment of distraction didn't catch that a ton of other stuff would die as well - including DrakConf, Mozilla Thunderbird etc. Luckily I still had Opera and Urpmi to fall back on, I reinitialised Urpmi, installed Drakconf, Mozilla and Thunderbird, at least I can work until my new laptop arrives later this week and I can do a clean install and move my stuff over. The question - the only thing visibly missing from DrakConf is the RPM stuff - Install, Upgrade etc. For the record - can anyone tell me what I should URPMI to regain them? Cheers Older and wiser Ed Smits Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Dumb Newbie Question
On Wed, 2004-05-19 at 22:24 -0400, Edgars Smits wrote: OK, so I'm a real newbie. I've been running 10CE (still waiting for my 10 official DVD to be delivered), wanted to upgrade to Gnome 2.6. Decide to try it myself, using a site in Germany that had 299 RPM's. To make a long story short, I totally hosed up Gnome - to the extent that I can no longer access it, no big deal, I still have KDE, decided to remove gtk+ from the KDE side (don't ask, it seemed logical at the time), and in a moment of distraction didn't catch that a ton of other stuff would die as well - including DrakConf, Mozilla Thunderbird etc. Luckily I still had Opera and Urpmi to fall back on, I reinitialised Urpmi, installed Drakconf, Mozilla and Thunderbird, at least I can work until my new laptop arrives later this week and I can do a clean install and move my stuff over. The question - the only thing visibly missing from DrakConf is the RPM stuff - Install, Upgrade etc. For the record - can anyone tell me what I should URPMI to regain them? urpmi rpmdrake gurpmi John Drouhard -- Wed May 19 22:58:55 CDT 2004 Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Cooker) for i586 -- Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 A bird in the bush usually has a friend in there with him. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Question about remote access
I have a question concerning remote access and iptables. I have installed Mandrake 10.0 Community on a PII 450Mhz. with 256Mb RAM. I have tweaked all the settings in Mandrake Control Center, but I know nothing about iptables. I have assigned the following to the su and login commands: owner: root group: wheel PERMISSIONS: owner: read, write, execute, setuid group: read, write, execute others: forbidden And, I have added myself (the only user) to the wheel group. I have, and use, rkhunter. Even if someone had remote access to my system, they would not be able to call the su or login commands. I tried to telnet myself in a konsole session and got a reply telling me connection refused. I tried to ping myself and got 6 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 4999ms It seems that my box would be invisible to anyone trying to ping me and unavailable to anyone trying to telnet me. Is this sufficient? Or, must I learn how to deal with iptables? Ian MacGregor -- - Registered Linux User #350412 MacGregor Despite Them! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Question about remote access
On Wed, 2004-04-21 at 17:05, Ian MacGregor wrote: I tried to telnet myself in a konsole session and got a reply telling me connection refused. I tried to ping myself and got 6 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 4999ms It seems that my box would be invisible to anyone trying to ping me and unavailable to anyone trying to telnet me. Is this sufficient? Or, must I learn how to deal with iptables? I'd have a look at the IPaddress your machine has when connected to the net, send that to a good friend and see if (s)he can ping you. That would be a better test imho. If you are hesitant about IPtables, there are helpful scripts, like EasyTables, QuickTables etc, that do a great job in helping you set up a good firewall. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Question about remote access
Unfortunately, I don't know anyone who knows how to ping :( On Wednesday 21 April 2004 8:21 am, Paul wrote: On Wed, 2004-04-21 at 17:05, Ian MacGregor wrote: I tried to telnet myself in a konsole session and got a reply telling me connection refused. I tried to ping myself and got 6 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 4999ms It seems that my box would be invisible to anyone trying to ping me and unavailable to anyone trying to telnet me. Is this sufficient? Or, must I learn how to deal with iptables? I'd have a look at the IPaddress your machine has when connected to the net, send that to a good friend and see if (s)he can ping you. That would be a better test imho. If you are hesitant about IPtables, there are helpful scripts, like EasyTables, QuickTables etc, that do a great job in helping you set up a good firewall. Paul -- - Registered Linux User #350412 MacGregor Despite Them! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Question about remote access
On Wed, 2004-04-21 at 17:27, Ian MacGregor wrote: Unfortunately, I don't know anyone who knows how to ping :( Hmmm. Not sure if you could see me as a good friend, but I do ping once in a while. You can send me your IP through private mail, I could check for you. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Question about remote access
I just sent you some info. thanks for volunteering. On Wednesday 21 April 2004 8:36 am, Paul wrote: On Wed, 2004-04-21 at 17:27, Ian MacGregor wrote: Unfortunately, I don't know anyone who knows how to ping :( Hmmm. Not sure if you could see me as a good friend, but I do ping once in a while. You can send me your IP through private mail, I could check for you. Paul -- - Registered Linux User #350412 MacGregor Despite Them! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] Real Newbie question
Well I've sort of answered my own question, as I looked at the what packages were preinstalled and noticed that the libraries needed to install some of the software were not installed themselves. So used Mandrakes RPM to install the missing libraries and update Linux and voila all work. I think I was looking for a complex solution where an easy one is would suffice. Thanks Adrian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Real Newbie question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 05 March 2004 15:44, Adrian Earnshaw wrote: Well I've sort of answered my own question, Nice feeling, isn't it? g Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFASKHtkFAvMr/nNX8RAvf0AJ4/jbrtR5NIy6GcdVOo50ms1cl4agCeP76j SvxfBNGN9oc9puiSaCuGYe8= =aVM0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Real Newbie question
On Thursday 04 Mar 2004 01:13, JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 00:08:02 + Derek Jennings disseminated the following: Erm the lines I am extremely new to Linux and have tried to install GLib ring alarm bells in my head. The Glib library is one of the most fundamental libraries on your system. If you mess with it you are almost certain to break your system. (Trust me I have been there) Are you maybe getting glib and glibc mixed up? In any case, doing 'urpmi libglib-devel' will definitely error out if the wrong version of glib is installed. ...but ya, installing any package like glib from somewhere other than 'official' Mandrake channels or from the CD's is to be avoided. Adrian, what is the version of glib you have installed? In a terminal, do: rpm -qa | grep glib You should see libglib1.2-1.2.10-11mdk and libglib2.0_0-2.2.3-1mdk or thereabouts (assuming you are running 9.2). Or was it even an RPM you installed from this Linux Format mag? What is the app you are trying to build with ./configure? Like Derek suggested, there may be Mandrake packages for it, which would save you a lot of time and trouble. Sorry Yes you are correct. I saw Glib and thought glibc. But I still would not advise a brand new newbie to mess with compiling Glib when there is a perfectly good RPM package. Compiling apps can be fun and instructive, but for newbies there are considerably easier ways of getting the applications they want. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Real Newbie question
On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 09:20:06 + Derek Jennings disseminated the following: But I still would not advise a brand new newbie to mess with compiling Glib when there is a perfectly good RPM package. I'm just curious still about this glib package from a magazine CD. There should be warnings all over that sucker about 'make sure this is compatible with your distro'. Won't tear you a new one like replacing glibc will, but it would still give you major headaches with any GTK apps, if I understand correctly what glib does. ...building end-user type apps from source is pretty harmless, though it could give a new user the wrong impression about the difficulty of installing software on Linux. BTW (hijack alert!), is it true that on Gentoo you can have two versions of glibc coexist on the same system? -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ 12:33:18 up 28 days, 16 min, 6 users, load average: 0.08, 0.19, 0.11 +++ Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 +++ There are literally several levels of SCO being wrong. And even if we were to live in that alternate universe where SCO would be right, they'd still be wrong.-- Linus Torvalds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Real Newbie question
On Thursday 04 March 2004 09:39 am, JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 09:20:06 + Derek Jennings disseminated the following: But I still would not advise a brand new newbie to mess with compiling Glib when there is a perfectly good RPM package. I'm just curious still about this glib package from a magazine CD. There should be warnings all over that sucker about 'make sure this is compatible with your distro'. Won't tear you a new one like replacing glibc will, but it would still give you major headaches with any GTK apps, if I understand correctly what glib does. Personally I have been able to install only -one- package from Linux Format I quit trying when the only issues on the News Stand is the DVD Edition ...building end-user type apps from source is pretty harmless, though it could give a new user the wrong impression about the difficulty of installing software on Linux. BTW (hijack alert!), is it true that on Gentoo you can have two versions of glibc coexist on the same system? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Question about internet connection on Mandrake 9.1
Hi, I have just got my internet up and running on my 9.1 system. For some reason when I try to go in to Gnome it tells me that I should save my host in a folder called /ect/host or something like that. I can't remember exactly what it said but I am confused, I have no idea how to do that. KDE is working fine but there is a program that isn't coperating in there so I want to use Gnome. Thanks, TJ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Real Newbie question
Title: Message I am extremely new to Linux and have tried to install GLib. I have followed the instructions in the install file but when I try to ./configure any programs that needGLib it tells me it's not installed properly or it's the wrong version. The GLib is from this months Linux Format magazine so it's upto date. is there any sites I can visit that could help me out in getting my head round what I am doing wrong. Thanks Adrian
Re: [newbie] Real Newbie question
On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 23:20:12 - Adrian Earnshaw disseminated the following: I am extremely new to Linux and have tried to install GLib. I have followed the instructions in the install file but when I try to ./configure any programs that need GLib it tells me it's not installed properly or it's the wrong version. The GLib is from this months Linux Format magazine so it's upto date. Probably you need the development libraries. as root: urpmi libglib-devel -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ 18:44:05 up 27 days, 6:27, 8 users, load average: 1.76, 1.47, 1.33 +++ Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 +++ I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. Or ... He has weapons of mass destruction -- the world's deadliest weapons -- which pose a direct threat to the United States, our citizens and our friends and allies. One of those lies got a president impeached. -- Michael Moore Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Real Newbie question
On Wednesday 03 Mar 2004 23:45, JoeHill wrote: On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 23:20:12 - Adrian Earnshaw disseminated the following: I am extremely new to Linux and have tried to install GLib. I have followed the instructions in the install file but when I try to ./configure any programs that need GLib it tells me it's not installed properly or it's the wrong version. The GLib is from this months Linux Format magazine so it's upto date. Probably you need the development libraries. as root: urpmi libglib-devel Erm the lines I am extremely new to Linux and have tried to install GLib ring alarm bells in my head. The Glib library is one of the most fundamental libraries on your system. If you mess with it you are almost certain to break your system. (Trust me I have been there) If you are new to Linux it is best to stick to RPM packages built for the Mandrake release you are using. There are gazillions of them. You will not get bored. Have a read of the Twiki site in my sig and learn about using urpmi to install apps on line. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Real Newbie question
On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 00:08:02 + Derek Jennings disseminated the following: Erm the lines I am extremely new to Linux and have tried to install GLib ring alarm bells in my head. The Glib library is one of the most fundamental libraries on your system. If you mess with it you are almost certain to break your system. (Trust me I have been there) Are you maybe getting glib and glibc mixed up? In any case, doing 'urpmi libglib-devel' will definitely error out if the wrong version of glib is installed. ...but ya, installing any package like glib from somewhere other than 'official' Mandrake channels or from the CD's is to be avoided. Adrian, what is the version of glib you have installed? In a terminal, do: rpm -qa | grep glib You should see libglib1.2-1.2.10-11mdk and libglib2.0_0-2.2.3-1mdk or thereabouts (assuming you are running 9.2). Or was it even an RPM you installed from this Linux Format mag? What is the app you are trying to build with ./configure? Like Derek suggested, there may be Mandrake packages for it, which would save you a lot of time and trouble. -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ 19:59:11 up 27 days, 7:42, 6 users, load average: 1.19, 1.34, 1.41 +++ Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 +++ It was a crazed and futile effort to somehow explain the extremely twisted nature of my relationship with God, Nixon and the National Football League.''-- Hunter S. Thompson, explaining why he screamed scripture from the 20th-floor balcony of the Houston Hyatt on the morning of Super Bowl VIII Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] stupid newbie question
On Wednesday 25 February 2004 07:10 pm, Marc Resnick wrote: - Original Message - From: Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Newbie Mandrake List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 9:47 PM Subject: [newbie] stupid newbie question I know we covered this about an eon ago but can anyone tell me how to untar a .bz2 file? Thanks Smitty (who can't remember his name sometimes :-( If it's tar.bz2, then use tar xjvf filename. If it's just .bz2, then use bunzip2 filename. Thanks lots --Marc --- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] stupid newbie question
I know we covered this about an eon ago but can anyone tell me how to untar a .bz2 file? Thanks Smitty (who can't remember his name sometimes :-( Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] stupid newbie question
- Original Message - From: Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Newbie Mandrake List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 9:47 PM Subject: [newbie] stupid newbie question I know we covered this about an eon ago but can anyone tell me how to untar a .bz2 file? Thanks Smitty (who can't remember his name sometimes :-( If it's tar.bz2, then use tar xjvf filename. If it's just .bz2, then use bunzip2 filename. --Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dumb Stupid Newbie Question
On Sunday 09 November 2003 04:03 am, sioni0 wrote: 9/11/0312:00GMT I have a similar problem, I did a clean install of MDK 9.2 during which it set up my HP PSC 1205 but nothing happened when a test page was supposed to be printed. Is this an HP driver problem or a MDK problem? *** - Original Message - From: Aronsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 12:19 AM Subject: [newbie] dumb Stupid Newbie Question I have been struggling to install a HP PSC-1210 I have downloaded hpoj 0.91 which is required after (I thought un-installing hpoj 0.90 when I try to install it hpoj .090 is reinstalled (ARRGH) any help would be appreciated. smitty -- When you're being mugged..a handgun is more comfort than an ACLU lawyer - --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I just crossposted a how-to that one of the guy on the HPOJ list wrote check it out -- PK Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] dumb Stupid Newbie Question
I have been struggling to install a HP PSC-1210 I have downloaded hpoj 0.91 which is required after (I thought un-installing hpoj 0.90 when I try to install it hpoj .090 is reinstalled (ARRGH) any help would be appreciated. smitty -- When you're being mugged..a handgun is more comfort than an ACLU lawyer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dumb Stupid Newbie Question
On Friday 07 November 2003 06:19 pm, Aronsmith wrote: I have been struggling to install a HP PSC-1210 I have downloaded hpoj 0.91 which is required after (I thought un-installing hpoj 0.90 when I try to install it hpoj .090 is reinstalled (ARRGH) any help would be appreciated. smitty Aron, how are you trying to install? Have you tried opening a file manager like konqueror and just clicking on the hpoj 0.91 rpm? -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dumb Stupid Newbie Question
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 18:48, Dennis Myers wrote: On Friday 07 November 2003 06:19 pm, Aronsmith wrote: I have been struggling to install a HP PSC-1210 I have downloaded hpoj 0.91 which is required after (I thought un-installing hpoj 0.90 when I try to install it hpoj .090 is reinstalled (ARRGH) any help would be appreciated. smitty Aron, how are you trying to install? Have you tried opening a file manager like konqueror and just clicking on the hpoj 0.91 rpm? Yes also i have su to the /home/aronsmith/tmp dir and untarred it also I have tried the graphical installer printerdrake I have (I Thought )removed hpoh-0.90 then tried toinstall hpoj-0.91 but my box always installs hpoj-0.90 again -- When you're being mugged..a handgun is more comfort than an ACLU lawyer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] question on install Mandrake on second partition
Hi,
I have such configuration on my PC from an OEM:
- Windows HP Home Edition with latest updates
- 40 GB HDD: (C: 20 GB/NTFS, D:20 GB/FAT32)
My intention is to install Linux on partition D:
but I don't want to stop using Win XP on C:.
Please note that as a user I have never used D:
(no file, no application, just no user invention).
I am continuously collecting info about Linux install
on existing partitions to be quite safe to install
Linux, but I still have some questions that I have
not been able to find their answers:
1. In D: (I think it will be named as /hdb in
Mandrake install program), I have found 2 hidden
directories:
- Recycled
- _restore{some_code}
In _restore... directory, there are directories
named as RPxxx (xxx: any number) and in these
hidden directories there are such files:
*.log, *.ini, RestorePointSize. The directories
are created in arbitrary days (for some reason
I do not know).
I have used System Restore just once (for USB drive)
and have never used any other Restore Point.
Q: If I install Linux on D:, will the System Restore
integrity in Win XP be corrupted? I think System
Restore utility is not programmable to one
partition. I have thought to disable System Restore
from D: in order to install Linux here.
2. According to the information above, do you
recommend me to create 2 partitions out of D: with
Mandrake install program, in order to prevent
damage to hidden files in D:?
Thank you very much for your patience in advance.
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Re: [newbie] question on install Mandrake on second partition
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October 19, 2003 12:22 pm, pencuse wrote:
Hi,
I have such configuration on my PC from an OEM:
- Windows HP Home Edition with latest updates
- 40 GB HDD: (C: 20 GB/NTFS, D:20 GB/FAT32)
My intention is to install Linux on partition D:
but I don't want to stop using Win XP on C:.
Please note that as a user I have never used D:
(no file, no application, just no user invention).
If you don't have an actual Windows XP install disk you don't want to do that.
D:\ is your restore partition designed to work in conjunction with the
restore disks you got from the Manufacturer in order to restore the machine
to Factory Fresh configuration. Even if you do have an install disk other
than the restore disks you will loose any vendor specific hardware drivers.
Bottom line, you don't want to alter D: unless there is an update from the
manufacturer for your system.
I am continuously collecting info about Linux install
on existing partitions to be quite safe to install
Linux, but I still have some questions that I have
not been able to find their answers:
1. In D: (I think it will be named as /hdb in
Mandrake install program), I have found 2 hidden
directories:
- Recycled
- _restore{some_code}
In GNU Linux that drive which is actually a partition would still be part of
the hda numbering. hdb would be for a separate drive. That includes CD-Rom,
CD-RW, DVD, hard drives, etc.
In _restore... directory, there are directories
named as RPxxx (xxx: any number) and in these
hidden directories there are such files:
*.log, *.ini, RestorePointSize. The directories
are created in arbitrary days (for some reason
I do not know).
Part of the XP recovery system. Again, you don't want to change any of that
stuff if you still want a functioning XP install.
I have used System Restore just once (for USB drive)
and have never used any other Restore Point.
Q: If I install Linux on D:, will the System Restore
integrity in Win XP be corrupted? I think System
Restore utility is not programmable to one
partition. I have thought to disable System Restore
from D: in order to install Linux here.
Yes. Also when you next use the restore disks you'll lose Mandrake entirely or
the file system will be so corrupted it will not be bootable.
2. According to the information above, do you
recommend me to create 2 partitions out of D: with
Mandrake install program, in order to prevent
damage to hidden files in D:?
It would help to know what the machine actually is but it may not make a
difference. Most of these Restore Disk specials from OEMs will always
return the system to original factory condition and will claim the entire
hard drive as it was originally partitioned. The one exception that I've
managed to force was adding a larger hard drive with enough space to retain
the old settings, still have room for Mandrake to live in, and use your
choice of disk imaging utility to transfer everything from the original to
the new after installing Mandrake and using the diskdrake tool to set the
partitions to exactly the same size they were on the original disk. I didn't
do it cheaply for the person I last set this up for either.
Thank you very much for your patience in advance.
Tell the list what the machine is, any details you can, and someone will
likely be able to help you find a way to attain your goal.
Welcome to Open Source, and the Mandrake Community.
Regards;
Charlie
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Re: [newbie] question on install Mandrake on second partition
Hi Charlie, hi folks,
please read my 1e-9 $ comments below:
--- Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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October 19, 2003 12:22 pm, pencuse wrote:
Hi,
I have such configuration on my PC from an OEM:
- Windows HP Home Edition with latest updates
- 40 GB HDD: (C: 20 GB/NTFS, D:20 GB/FAT32)
My intention is to install Linux on partition D:
but I don't want to stop using Win XP on C:.
Please note that as a user I have never used D:
(no file, no application, just no user invention).
If you don't have an actual Windows XP install disk
you don't want to do that.
D:\ is your restore partition designed to work in
conjunction with the
restore disks you got from the Manufacturer in order
to restore the machine
to Factory Fresh configuration. Even if you do
have an install disk other
than the restore disks you will loose any vendor
specific hardware drivers.
I have found some points thru which I would not
agree with you. In case of any mis-information,
please forgive me:
The OEM has configured the system as I want, ie.
I have asked them to partition my 40 GB drive to 2
partitions. The only bird I could not shot was
that they have not formatted 2nd partition as NTFS.
Fortunately, this seems to be good to play with the
HDD for Linux/Mandrake.
I have just made a quick-search on System Restore in
Windows XP and on my PC, here is what I have found:
Each partition has its own
- Recycler directory
- System Volume Information
hidden directories.
Recycler on each partition seems to be controllable
thru Recycle Bin options. Recycle Bin is parametric,
ie. it recycles each partition in that partition
with the hidden folder called Recycler. Now, if
I disable Recycler on D:, Recycler folder can be
removed.
I have also found that System Restore can be turned
off on a partition basis, so System Volume Info
on D: can be removed as well.
Apart from these directories, there is not any
file, folder or any other ash. So these info above
makes me more hopefully to install Linux without
big problems.
Bottom line, you don't want to alter D: unless there
is an update from the
manufacturer for your system.
I am continuously collecting info about Linux
install
on existing partitions to be quite safe to install
Linux, but I still have some questions that I have
not been able to find their answers:
1. In D: (I think it will be named as /hdb in
Mandrake install program), I have found 2 hidden
directories:
- Recycled
- _restore{some_code}
In GNU Linux that drive which is actually a
partition would still be part of
the hda numbering. hdb would be for a separate
drive. That includes CD-Rom,
CD-RW, DVD, hard drives, etc.
Ok, I understood.
In _restore... directory, there are directories
named as RPxxx (xxx: any number) and in these
hidden directories there are such files:
*.log, *.ini, RestorePointSize. The directories
are created in arbitrary days (for some reason
I do not know).
Part of the XP recovery system. Again, you don't
want to change any of that
stuff if you still want a functioning XP install.
I don't think that will create problem if I disable
System Restore on partition D:, because there is
nothing on it.
I have used System Restore just once (for USB
drive)
and have never used any other Restore Point.
Q: If I install Linux on D:, will the System
Restore
integrity in Win XP be corrupted? I think System
Restore utility is not programmable to one
partition. I have thought to disable System
Restore
from D: in order to install Linux here.
Yes. Also when you next use the restore disks you'll
lose Mandrake entirely or
the file system will be so corrupted it will not be
bootable.
After I have seen that System Restore can be
turned off/on on each partitioning basis, I think
there seems to be no problem to go on.
2. According to the information above, do you
recommend me to create 2 partitions out of D: with
Mandrake install program, in order to prevent
damage to hidden files in D:?
It would help to know what the machine actually is
but it may not make a
difference. Most of these Restore Disk specials
from OEMs will always
return the system to original factory condition and
will claim the entire
hard drive as it was originally partitioned. The one
exception that I've
managed to force was adding a larger hard drive with
enough space to retain
the old settings, still have room for Mandrake to
live in, and use your
choice of disk imaging utility to transfer
everything from the original to
the new after installing Mandrake and using the
diskdrake tool to set the
partitions to exactly the same size they were on the
original disk. I didn't
do it cheaply for the person I last set this up for
either.
Maybe I have used the wrong abbrev for the company
I have bought the PC. The OEM is not like Dell or HP.
They just configure the hardware as I
Re: [newbie] question on install Mandrake on second partition
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 19, 2003 02:03 pm, pencuse wrote: whack Hi Charlie, hi folks, please read my 1e-9 $ comments below: If you don't have an actual Windows XP install disk you don't want to do that. D:\ is your restore partition designed to work in conjunction with the restore disks you got from the Manufacturer in order to restore the machine to Factory Fresh configuration. Even if you do have an install disk other than the restore disks you will loose any vendor specific hardware drivers. I have found some points thru which I would not agree with you. In case of any mis-information, please forgive me: The OEM has configured the system as I want, ie. I have asked them to partition my 40 GB drive to 2 partitions. The only bird I could not shot was that they have not formatted 2nd partition as NTFS. Fortunately, this seems to be good to play with the HDD for Linux/Mandrake. Nothin' to forgive. You were clarifying the information you previously provided and that's always a Good Thing.© (-: Yes, shared FAT32 or leaving that partition was a good plan for you. You could have done what you wanted even if the partition was NTFS but all data on it would have been lost and Windows would probably have complained bitterly. Not that anyone pays attention to those complaints as long as it still boots and runs. I have just made a quick-search on System Restore in Windows XP and on my PC, here is what I have found: Each partition has its own - Recycler directory - System Volume Information hidden directories. It really doesn't matter what's there as long as it isn't using a significant pertion of the space at present. Make things easier for yourself. I'm certain you'll see other recommendations but I'd shrink (there's a resize option in the diskdrake graphical installer that you can use) the D: drive to a much smaller size when you install Mandrake Linux, leaving some space for expansion and the aforementioned sharing between operating systems. Mandrake will be able to view the entire disk but as Windows is configured by default it can't see any space not formatted to a Windows file system type. Since you have 20 GB roughly to play with I'd probably give 15 of that to Mandrake for the install and leave the other 5 FAT32. But that's just me. I'm all about easy transitions for new Mandrakians. Recycler on each partition seems to be controllable thru Recycle Bin options. Recycle Bin is parametric, ie. it recycles each partition in that partition with the hidden folder called Recycler. Now, if I disable Recycler on D:, Recycler folder can be removed. That will all be OK once you resize the partition to install Mandrake. Windows isn't completely inflexible after all, my concern initially was that you'd have to fight with a proprietary restore disk and cause yourself endless grief. Since you won't because you have the actual Windows XP disk you should be fine. I have also found that System Restore can be turned off on a partition basis, so System Volume Info on D: can be removed as well. Yes but you won't need to probably. Just resize the partition and the first time you boot Windows after it will run a check on it's modified home(s). Apart from these directories, there is not any file, folder or any other ash. So these info above makes me more hopefully to install Linux without big problems. Should be OK. Barring Acts of God and the cussedness of Man. In GNU Linux that drive which is actually a partition would still be part of the hda numbering. hdb would be for a separate drive. That includes CD-Rom, CD-RW, DVD, hard drives, etc. Ok, I understood. Part of the XP recovery system. Again, you don't want to change any of that stuff if you still want a functioning XP install. I don't think that will create problem if I disable System Restore on partition D:, because there is nothing on it. You can still use system restore from a resized D: drive. As I posted above Windows will complain the first time but it should shut up after that. After I have seen that System Restore can be turned off/on on each partitioning basis, I think there seems to be no problem to go on. Doesn't matter if you do or not but it's been handy for the friends I have that still use Windows XP for some things. It just makes the OS a bit less weak to be able to restore it from a Last known Good Configuration. Also a lot faster than a full re-install. Maybe I have used the wrong abbrev for the company I have bought the PC. The OEM is not like Dell or HP. They just configure the hardware as I want, called noname PC. I reside in Turkey, maybe I confuse the terms to describe some things, very sorry for that. Thanks for clearing it up. Your plan is reasonable and you should be able to do things that way with minimal fuss. Since I have noname PC, there is no restore disk or something for me.
[newbie] installing anacron - newbie question...
In the thread: Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 14:35, RichardA wrote: [...snip] While you're at it, install anacron, too, unless you leave your computer on 24/7. When you boot, it starts the tasks that cron didn't do whilst the PC was off. This includes an updatedb every day. Sorry, I don't know where to go next from here... I got slocate installed ok but not anacron: [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]# urpmi anacron no package named anacron [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]# locate anacron /etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/resume.d/8anacron Interestingly, I thought I'd have a look at cron itself to see what it's [not] been doing. but even though locate cron brings pages of results, cron itself doesn't seem to want to run: [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]# cron bash: cron: command not found Could you perhaps point me to some reading material that explains cron/anacron installation and use? TIA, -- Merlin Zener Piano, Synthesizer Thailand. registered Linux user number 328618 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] installing anacron - newbie question...
On 24 Sep 2003 20:00:52 +0700, Merlin Zener [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I don't know where to go next from here... I got slocate installed ok but not anacron: [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]# urpmi anacron no package named anacron You should be able to install it. Do you have a 'main' software source defined? Perhaps the CDs you installed from? Interestingly, I thought I'd have a look at cron itself to see what it's[not] been doing. but even though locate cron brings pages of results, cron itself doesn't seem to want to run: [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]# cron bash: cron: command not found I think it's called 'crond', because it's a system daemon and not meant to be run directly. Could you perhaps point me to some reading material that explains cron/anacron installation and use? http://www.linuxhelp.net/guides/cron/ looks ok. Generally, the Linux System Administrators' Guide is good, http://www.tml.hut.fi/~viu/linux/sag/sag-0.6.2.html/index.html the Rute User's Tutorial is heavy going, http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/index.html O'Reilly books are good, man pages fairly indigestible. If you see a book about Red Hat instead of Mandrake, or from a few versions ago, most of the command line stuff hasn't changed. Just don't bother reading about KDE 1.x, or whatever. Richard -- Get up and turn I loose Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Question for Sylpheed users
On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 19:24:03 -0400 Trey Sizemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 19:18:23 -0400 Lee Wiggers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 19:09:44 -0400 Trey Sizemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I receive some emails in HTML format (I know...Boo!). Is there a way for sylpheed (or sylpheed-claws) to render HTML mails (without stripping all the HTML out)? Also, the fonts could use a little TLC...I see how to change the fonts for the message screen, but the actual mail queue and folder listing remain the same. Can these be changed? Thanks, Trey Sylpheed-claws with the dillo plug-in works great. I've got the rpm's if you need them. Lee I had installed sylpheed-claws via URPMI along with plugins (among them the one for dillo), but it never worked on the HTML mails. And when I went to the plugins area in sylpheed, nothing showed. Did I not do something right? === If you configured for the plugins during your install, you still need to actually intall the plugins. When you go to the plugins page within sylpheed, click on install and navigate to /usr/local/lib/sylpheed. the plugins are there (ending in .so, or .sa, I believe). HTH, Mike -- The man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life --Muhammad Ali Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Question for Sylpheed users
On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 08:09:19 -0400 Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hen you go to the plugins page within sylpheed, click on install and navigate to /usr/local/lib/sylpheed. If he used the mdk rpms it will be in /usr/lib/sylpheed Charles -- Good salesmen and good repairmen will never go hungry. -- R.E. Schenk - Mandrake Linux 9.2 on PurpleDragon Kernel-2.4.22-3.tmb.2mdkenterprise http://www.eslrahc.com - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] first step: to connect to the internet, first find the modem... [newbie question]
On Monday 01 September 2003 03:04 pm, Merlin Zener wrote: whack Hello all, well I'm pleased [no, make that: amazed:)] to say that I went out and got a modem, came home and plugged it in and connected first time - no problems!!! I got an Aztech 56K, Windoze detected it on bootup and automatically installed the driver. I connected once, in WIN2K to be sure before rebooting into Mandrake. Straight off the what to do menu connect to the internet; all I had to tell it was the dialup number, username and password and it connected. You guys may be shrugging and saying so what? but for this is a big deal :) whack Merlin: Glad that it worked out well for you. And now you know why so many of us get pissed off when we read those CNet/ZDNet/BlahNet/FUDNet articles about how hard it is to install Linux. (My all time favorite is the twit who didn't like the Mandrake installation because it didn't include a game to play during the installation.) -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] first step: to connect to the internet, first find the modem... [newbie question]
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen Kuhn Sent: Saturday, 30 August 2003 18:27 To: Mandrake Newbie Subject: Re: [newbie] first step: to connect to the internet, first findthe modem... [newbie question] On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 10:07, Merlin Zener wrote: Hi, I'm an almost newbie: But the surprise is: Linux doesn't think there's a Modem in my machine! You're going to want to find out what the chipset is for that modem - that way, you can search out the proper modem driver and get it installed - if it's not already. While in Windows, do a RIGHT-CLICK on My Computer and choose MANAGE - then on the left side, choose DEVICE MANAGER, then scroll through and find your modem - expand that branck, then highlight it and RIGHT-CLICK and then choose PROPERTIES - you should find an ADVANCED tab in there somewhere, or even the DIAGNOSTICS - when you run the DIAGNOSTIC one of the first lines it spits out is the modem ID string - that's what you need to know. Interesting. Thanks for your thoughts, Stephen. SO, now I know my modem is a: Intel(R) 536EP V.92 Modem. That bit was easy. Under the diagnostics tab, however, I couldn't find any way to copy and paste the info, so I've had to type this by hand [I hope I got it right] Hardware ID PCI\VEN_8086DEV_1040SUBSYS_10008086REV_00 btw every time I tried to query the modem it returned port already open - even immediately after re-booting, and before connecting... Once you find out that little trite piece of info, you can browse through the www.linmodems.org page and find the driver; my telling is that it's probably a Lucent WinModem or HCF/HST/HSF PCI modem (Lucent/PCTel) - which there are drivers for...so all is not lost yet... I found it, on that page it does say for my modem: LM = Winmodem, may work with vendor-supplied Linux (Linmodem) driver but all the links on that line only lead to suspended pages etc... Does that change anything? Should I still buy an external modem? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.514 / Virus Database: 312 - Release Date: 28/08/2003 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] first step: to connect to the internet, first find the modem... [newbie question]
Hi, I'm an almost newbie: I managed to get Mandrake installed and that's about it. I did post here a while back [I think about six months ago,] and I received some really helpful advice to get Mandrake and WIN2KPRO on the same HDD but past that I found it all a bit hard and I really don't have time to stuff around much just to make things work; I need to just get things done. So I haven't used Linux for anything much in all that time. But last night I got a bunch of weird stuff install itself on my machine like some damn get-rich-quick crap and that plus the usual endless virus updates and email worms and so on - - I finally want to switch over to Linux to access the net - I'm told it's safer:) But the surprise is: Linux doesn't think there's a Modem in my machine! When I click on connect to the internet [from the what to do menu] it either hangs on the initialising modem stage, or sometimes it says sorry, the modem doesn't respond. [at least it's polite :) ] I looked in the Mandrake Control Center and the modem is not listed at all. I know there's a modem in there - WIN2K sees it fine - but past knowing it's a PCI card I don't know any more about it. I looked in the documentation on the desktop, but it seems to only tell about KDE itself - not about the system or it's parts. I *think* Mandrake was supposed to install a bunch of HOWTOs and such, but I don't know where to find them. Could you please tell me where to look, to find out the first steps in making Mandrake acknowledge there's a modem there, and then how to make it connect? Thank you very much in advance for your help... -- Merlin Zener Piano, Synthesizer Pattaya Thailand http://www.merlinzener.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.514 / Virus Database: 312 - Release Date: 28/08/2003 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] first step: to connect to the internet, first findthe modem... [newbie question]
On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 20:07, Merlin Zener wrote: Hi, I'm an almost newbie: I managed to get Mandrake installed and that's about it. I did post here a while back [I think about six months ago,] and I received some really helpful advice to get Mandrake and WIN2KPRO on the same HDD but past that I found it all a bit hard and I really don't have time to stuff around much just to make things work; I need to just get things done. So I haven't used Linux for anything much in all that time. But last night I got a bunch of weird stuff install itself on my machine like some damn get-rich-quick crap and that plus the usual endless virus updates and email worms and so on - - I finally want to switch over to Linux to access the net - I'm told it's safer:) But the surprise is: Linux doesn't think there's a Modem in my machine! When I click on connect to the internet [from the what to do menu] it either hangs on the initialising modem stage, or sometimes it says sorry, the modem doesn't respond. [at least it's polite :) ] I looked in the Mandrake Control Center and the modem is not listed at all. I know there's a modem in there - WIN2K sees it fine - but past knowing it's a PCI card I don't know any more about it. I looked in the documentation on the desktop, but it seems to only tell about KDE itself - not about the system or it's parts. I *think* Mandrake was supposed to install a bunch of HOWTOs and such, but I don't know where to find them. Could you please tell me where to look, to find out the first steps in making Mandrake acknowledge there's a modem there, and then how to make it connect? Thank you very much in advance for your help... in your case, I would suggest that you (as root, in a text console, without the quotes) cat /proc/pci and if you can highlight the text, and copy it to an email and post it here. we can look at that info and tell if your modem is a win modem (which will require a good bit more of your time to get running) or a hardware modem, which can be configured within 10 mins. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] first step: to connect to the internet, first findthemodem... [newbie question]
On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 09:49, Merlin Zener wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ed tharp Sent: Saturday, 30 August 2003 19:47 To: newbie Subject: Re: [newbie] first step: to connect to the internet, first findthe modem... [newbie question] in your case, I would suggest that you (as root, in a text console, without the quotes) cat /proc/pci and if you can highlight the text, and copy it to an email and post it here. we can look at that info and tell if your modem is a win modem (which will require a good bit more of your time to get running) or a hardware modem, which can be configured within 10 mins. thank you very much for your reply, Ed. Already, I've learned something: when you log in as root, the screen goes red!!! :) next time, instead of loging in to the X-session, just open a term (in KDE, the K gear, (like M$ start) terminals, Konsole, superuser mode). it is much more secure. Anyway, here's what it said when I copied and pasted the command you suggested: OK,,, the important parts about your modem are this, Bus 0, device 11, function 0: Communication controller: PCI device 8086:1040 (Intel Corp.) (rev 0). IRQ 11. Master Capable. Latency=32. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xee00 [0xee3f]. Well this looks to me to be one of the worst winmodems, one on a amr. my suggestion at this point is if you value your time at minimum wage, then go buy an external hardware modem. check e-bay. if you have determined that no matter what you intend to make this PITA work http://www.linmodems.org is your next stop. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] first step: to connect to the internet, first find the modem... [newbie question]
On Friday 29 August 2003 08:07 pm, Merlin Zener wrote: But the surprise is: Linux doesn't think there's a Modem in my machine! When I click on connect to the internet [from the what to do menu] it either hangs on the initialising modem stage, or sometimes it says sorry, the modem doesn't respond. [at least it's polite :) ] I looked in the Mandrake Control Center and the modem is not listed at all. I know there's a modem in there - WIN2K sees it fine - but past knowing it's a PCI card I don't know any more about it. No surprise--you have a WINMODEM (and an AMR Winmodem at that). Winmodem's are designed as hardware-less modems, using software to emulate the hardware and save money. These modems require drivers, and most manufacturers only supply drivers for Windows. That's the bad news. The good news is that about 1/3 of them have Linux drivers, and the ones that work with Linux usually work even better than with the Windows drivers--Lucent and PCTel/Conexant chips are well supported--Rockwell somewhat less so. Some AMR modems use PCTel/Conexant chips, so you MIGHT be able to get it to work. I recommend that you Google for the scanModem utility and install it. If scanModem can find your modem, it will tell you what chip it has and what driver to install. If scanModem can't find the modem, it is unlikely that you will ever get it to work in Linux. The best thing to do is go out and by an external SERIAL modem. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] first step: to connect to the internet, first find the modem... [newbie question]
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ed tharp Sent: Saturday, 30 August 2003 21:27 To: newbie Subject: RE: [newbie] first step: to connect to the internet, first findthemodem... [newbie question] [...snip] OK,,, the important parts about your modem are this, Bus 0, device 11, function 0: Communication controller: PCI device 8086:1040 (Intel Corp.) (rev 0). IRQ 11. Master Capable. Latency=32. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xee00 [0xee3f]. Well this looks to me to be one of the worst winmodems, one on a amr. my suggestion at this point is if you value your time at minimum wage, then go buy an external hardware modem. check e-bay. if you have determined that no matter what you intend to make this PITA work http://www.linmodems.org is your next stop. hmm. looks like I'll be going shopping then. I'll let you know once I've got it. Oh, come to think of it - anything special I should ask for? -- Merlin Zener Piano, Synthesizer Pattaya Thailand http://www.merlinzener.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.514 / Virus Database: 312 - Release Date: 28/08/2003 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] first step: to connect to the internet, first findthe modem... [newbie question]
On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 16:46, Merlin Zener wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ed tharp Sent: Saturday, 30 August 2003 21:27 To: newbie Subject: RE: [newbie] first step: to connect to the internet, first findthemodem... [newbie question] [...snip] OK,,, the important parts about your modem are this, Bus 0, device 11, function 0: Communication controller: PCI device 8086:1040 (Intel Corp.) (rev 0). IRQ 11. Master Capable. Latency=32. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xee00 [0xee3f]. Well this looks to me to be one of the worst winmodems, one on a amr. my suggestion at this point is if you value your time at minimum wage, then go buy an external hardware modem. check e-bay. if you have determined that no matter what you intend to make this PITA work http://www.linmodems.org is your next stop. hmm. looks like I'll be going shopping then. I'll let you know once I've got it. Oh, come to think of it - anything special I should ask for? you should make sure you have an available serial port, and get a serial port external modem modem. I think they all work. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] first step: to connect to the internet, first find the modem... [newbie question]
On Saturday 30 August 2003 04:02 pm, ed tharp wrote: On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 16:46, Merlin Zener wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ed tharp Sent: Saturday, 30 August 2003 21:27 To: newbie Subject: RE: [newbie] first step: to connect to the internet, first findthemodem... [newbie question] [...snip] OK,,, the important parts about your modem are this, Bus 0, device 11, function 0: Communication controller: PCI device 8086:1040 (Intel Corp.) (rev 0). IRQ 11. Master Capable. Latency=32. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xee00 [0xee3f]. Well this looks to me to be one of the worst winmodems, one on a amr. my suggestion at this point is if you value your time at minimum wage, then go buy an external hardware modem. check e-bay. if you have determined that no matter what you intend to make this PITA work http://www.linmodems.org is your next stop. hmm. looks like I'll be going shopping then. I'll let you know once I've got it. Oh, come to think of it - anything special I should ask for? you should make sure you have an available serial port, and get a serial port external modem modem. I think they all work. There is a seller on ebay that always seems to have Creative labs Modem Blaster external serial modems with a buy it now price of $17.99 plus shipping for brand new modems. I have used this model modem before, it works well in linux, a complete nobrainer to configure if ypu have a open serial port. I have some friends that have used this model for 2+ years with zero problems. Cant go wrong at that price. Here is the url if you are interisted http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=14925item=3425556651 Marc KM5KW Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] first step: to connect to the internet, first find the modem... [newbie question]
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marc Sent: Sunday, 31 August 2003 04:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] first step: to connect to the internet, first find the modem... [newbie question] [...snip] hmm. looks like I'll be going shopping then. I'll let you know once I've got it. Oh, come to think of it - anything special I should ask for? you should make sure you have an available serial port, and get a serial port external modem modem. I think they all work. There is a seller on ebay [...snip] thanks for the tip, but getting things sent from America is slow at best [usually around a month], and often things either go missing - or arrive with a customs bill equal to the value of the item... I think I'll just go to a shop and hand over some Baht :) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.514 / Virus Database: 312 - Release Date: 28/08/2003 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] first step: to connect to the internet, first findthe modem... [newbie question]
On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 10:07, Merlin Zener wrote: Hi, I'm an almost newbie: But the surprise is: Linux doesn't think there's a Modem in my machine! You're going to want to find out what the chipset is for that modem - that way, you can search out the proper modem driver and get it installed - if it's not already. While in Windows, do a RIGHT-CLICK on My Computer and choose MANAGE - then on the left side, choose DEVICE MANAGER, then scroll through and find your modem - expand that branck, then highlight it and RIGHT-CLICK and then choose PROPERTIES - you should find an ADVANCED tab in there somewhere, or even the DIAGNOSTICS - when you run the DIAGNOSTIC one of the first lines it spits out is the modem ID string - that's what you need to know. Once you find out that little trite piece of info, you can browse through the www.linmodems.org page and find the driver; my telling is that it's probably a Lucent WinModem or HCF/HST/HSF PCI modem (Lucent/PCTel) - which there are drivers for...so all is not lost yet... -- Sat Aug 30 21:20:00 EST 2003 21:20:00 up 5 days, 11:06, 3 users, load average: 0.82, 0.76, 0.62 - |____ | illawarra computer services| | /-oo /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn | | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-13mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * If Jesus came back today, and saw what was going on in his name, he'd never stop throwing up. -- Max Von Sydow's character in Hannah and Her Sisters Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Question Update MySQL in Linux Mandrake 9.0
Can you tell me how to upgrade MySQL to MySQL 4.0 or higer in Mandrake Linux 9.0... __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Question Update MySQL in Linux Mandrake 9.0
I don't know of a rpm package, but there is nothign stopping you from downloading the src package from mysql.com and compiling up the latest on your mdk9.0 box. If I don't upgrade my server here to 9.2 when it comes out, I will probably do the same thing. regards Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Seno Adiputra Sent: Tuesday, 12 August 2003 11:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Question Update MySQL in Linux Mandrake 9.0 Can you tell me how to upgrade MySQL to MySQL 4.0 or higer in Mandrake Linux 9.0... __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Question about Running Dos Application in Mandrake 9.0
On Tuesday 12 Aug 2003 8:46 am, Seno Adiputra wrote: My company is still using Dos application such as cobol for its administration. When we decided to use Linux, especially Mandrake 9.0, we had a trouble to run Dos application on it. Can you tell me how to run dos application on Linux Mandrake 9.0 ...? can wine do it ? Thank's I don't know Wine, others will be able to help, but I did come across something on sourceforge yesterday: http://sourceforge.net/projects/dosemu/ and just now found another http://sourceforge.net/projects/dosbox/ -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Question about Running Dos Application in Mandrake 9.0
I think he means a compiled COBOL program that runs under DOS (as opposed to Win). The modules developed under this system had some pretty serious runtime modules that had to be installed on the machine that was going to run it. I might consider a rewrite among my best choices. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ed tharp Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 3:50 PM To: newbie Subject: Re: [newbie] Question about Running Dos Application in Mandrake 9.0 On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 03:46, Seno Adiputra wrote: My company is still using Dos application such as cobol for its administration. When we decided to use Linux, especially Mandrake 9.0, we had a trouble to run Dos application on it. Can you tell me how to run dos application on Linux Mandrake 9.0 ...? can wine do it ? Thank's __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com I may be wrong, but I don't think cobol is a 'dos application'. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Question about Running Dos Application in Mandrake 9.0
On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 03:46, Seno Adiputra wrote: My company is still using Dos application such as cobol for its administration. When we decided to use Linux, especially Mandrake 9.0, we had a trouble to run Dos application on it. Can you tell me how to run dos application on Linux Mandrake 9.0 ...? can wine do it ? Thank's __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com I may be wrong, but I don't think cobol is a 'dos application'. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Question about Running Dos Application in Mandrake 9.0
My company is still using Dos application such as cobol for its administration. When we decided to use Linux, especially Mandrake 9.0, we had a trouble to run Dos application on it. Can you tell me how to run dos application on Linux Mandrake 9.0 ...? can wine do it ? Thank's __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Question About Instant Massanger Server...?
Is the Jebber IM Server Instant Massenger server configuration..?? If it is... how to configure it so that I can run my Mandrake Linux 9.0 as Instant Massenger Server..?? Thank's __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Question about my built in Network Adapter
good thinking, worked great. Thanks From: Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Question about my built in Network Adapter Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 17:22:56 -0400 On Monday 07 July 2003 01:12 am, Patrick O. Coffey wrote: Hi, I have two NIC's. One is built into the motherboard(an ASUS) nForce2 MCP Network Adapter, The other is an SMC card(SMC2-1211Tx) when I run the wizard in Mandrake Control Center it only configures the SMC card. Now it lists the built in adapter with the SMC under network adapters in the hardware list so why can't I configure it? Thanks in advance. Probably because it is an nForce2 onboard nic which does not have open source drivers. Did you install nVidia's nForce2 drivers? -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Question about my built in Network Adapter
Hi, I have two NIC's. One is built into the motherboard(an ASUS) nForce2 MCP Network Adapter, The other is an SMC card(SMC2-1211Tx) when I run the wizard in Mandrake Control Center it only configures the SMC card. Now it lists the built in adapter with the SMC under network adapters in the hardware list so why can't I configure it? Thanks in advance. V/R pat
[newbie] question for mozilla users
i don't know if i messed up a setting somewhere, but every time i open mozilla or i click on a link from a web page and it opens another page, it's FULL SCREEN. it's kind of annoying actually and i don't need it full screen, especially with a 19 moniter. i've been checking everywhere for an answer to this, but i can't seem to find anything. that includes checking the mozilla home page and looking under every setting and option for mozilla. i can't seem to find it. Konqueror opens up fine, but i like mozilla better. i'm running md9.1 and operating in the KDE desktop enviornment. i havn't tried using tabbed browsing to see if it tries to do it there after i resize mozilla after opening it, but that's because i didn't like tabbed browsing the last time i tried it. thanks in advance. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] question for mozilla users
On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 Michael wrote: i don't know if i messed up a setting somewhere, but every time i open mozilla or i click on a link from a web page and it opens another page, it's FULL SCREEN. it's kind of annoying actually and i don't need it full screen, especially with a 19 moniter. i've been checking everywhere for an answer to this, but i can't seem to find anything. that includes checking the mozilla home page and looking under every setting and option for mozilla. i can't seem to find it. Konqueror opens up fine, but i like mozilla better. i'm running md9.1 and operating in the KDE desktop enviornment. i havn't tried using tabbed browsing to see if it tries to do it there after i resize mozilla after opening it, but that's because i didn't like tabbed browsing the last time i tried it. thanks in advance. Mike Open a Mozilla window and right click the title bar. Un-check the Maximize option. Then resize the window to your liking and check the Save window configuration option. /Björn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] question for mozilla users
On Monday 30 June 2003 03:54 pm, Björn Olsson wrote: Open a Mozilla window and right click the title bar. Un-check the Maximize option. Then resize the window to your liking and check the Save window configuration option. /Björn thank you. mozilla is better now. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another super newbie question
On Friday 20 Jun 2003 1:32 am, Ralph Bagwell wrote: Anne , thanks heaps. No problem Did what you said and have booted up three times now with no glitches -. Glad to hear it. I got another question for ya - don't tell anyone I asked/. I have managed to upgrade to KDE 312 on my right box - but I can't do the same on the left box - maybe I have forgotten what I did. What is the correct way to do that? (and should I bother) ? Can't help on that one - never tried it. Generally I work on 'if it an't broke, don't fix it' and I've not come across anything that needed the upgrade. Sorry (still working on trying to print with the Epson thru the LAN from the right box - [while in Windows] ). Having now installed 9.1 on that box (dual booting with XP) printing works just fine.) So are you saying that the Epson is on your linux box and prints fine, but your windows box can't print to it? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another super newbie question
quoting Anne Wilson; Friday 20 June 2003 03:47 am: On Friday 20 Jun 2003 1:32 am, Ralph Bagwell wrote: Anne , thanks heaps. No problem Did what you said and have booted up three times now with no glitches -. Glad to hear it. I got another question for ya - don't tell anyone I asked/. I have managed to upgrade to KDE 312 on my right box - but I can't do the same on the left box - maybe I have forgotten what I did. What is the correct way to do that? (and should I bother) ? Can't help on that one - never tried it. Generally I work on 'if it an't broke, don't fix it' and I've not come across anything that needed the upgrade. Sorry (still working on trying to print with the Epson thru the LAN from the right box - [while in Windows] ). Having now installed 9.1 on that box (dual booting with XP) printing works just fine.) So are you saying that the Epson is on your linux box and prints fine, but your windows box can't print to it? Anne KDE 3.1.2 is just an Update not really an upgrade. By that I mean it's (perhaps) less 'glitchy' than the shipped KDE and slightly cleaner in function. For my machine anyway. Then again I have an odd mix of cooker/release/third party installs. Texstar's seems to work better than the official KDE package, and infinitely better than trying to run the cooker version. YMMV Instructions follow. To avoid bad signature messages; GPG Key Instructions Rpmdrake requires the maker of the rpm to sign their rpms. Here is how to download and install my gpg key. Download http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/gpgkey/pubring.gpg Tex's pubring.gpg key for Linux Mandrake 9.1 Drop to the console or open an xterm and su to root. Type: gpg --import pubring.gpg To update to 3.1.2 since you're already in terminal mode and if you don't already have it as a software source repository: urpmi.addmedia texstar ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1/rpms with hdlist.cz all on one line. You can install any of Texstar's RPMs from command line or from rpmdrake or from the embedded rpmdrake in the Mandrake Control Centre after that. For a newbie it's probably best to use the Mandrake Control Centre, Software Manager. On a side note; you can configure source repositories in a number of ways, but the easiest is the easy urpmi page at PLF. You can also install a 'version' of the same function from the install disks; urpmi urpmi.setup then run it with urpmi.setup The phrasing used on buttons is a bit whack though, you'll probably click a button expecting it to do one thing but it'll do something else. Better just to go to the page and use that. http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/ Hope this helps. Charlie -- Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake 9.1 Bamboo (cooked) 12:55:26 up 2 days, 18:10, 2 users, load average: 0.05, 0.05, 0.07 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another super newbie question
On Wed, 2003-06-18 at 09:54, Ralph Bagwell wrote: My 9.1 install went so-so on my left machine ( I simply replaced the drive - installed XP - left half of the 40 GB available - ) Four things failed to install - two from the first disk and two from the second disk. When Linux failed to boot , I selected Linux - nonfb and it booted . What is nonfb ? I have a system connecting to the web (using the nonfb option) and the names of the four programs that didn't load. How can I attempt to install them. BTW each of the four items are readable and copyable from the CD's (using Windows - same CD reader - same everything booting up in XP) Ralph nonfb means no framebuffer. It's driving your video card in dumb mode. Can you post the names of the apps that failed? Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another super newbie question
Four notified me that they could not install. All these were readable and copyable in Windows and I have since reput them with no problem by installing with Install Software. The names are shortened at bit - if you have any doubts - lemmi know. gnome-mime-data tcsh-6.12 -4 OpenOffice.org..libs-1.0.2 xlockmove-5.06 The system has mostly fixed itself but still does not function as well as another installation on the same LAN previously installed - with absolutely no hitch. Now, about every third start up when the booting process gets to the KDE screen where it flashes about six things as it goes along - it stalls on the monitor - blinking for about a minute then up comes a blue screen - and I have no options but to reset. How can I check to see if my system is properly installed ? It just booted up with no problems - after three tries. During one failure , a note appeared to run fsck manually (with no parameters). I went to a Root konsole and typed fsck and was warned that do this can cause sever damage to a mounted file system. Beats me. nonfb means no framebuffer. It's driving your video card in dumb mode. Can you post the names of the apps that failed? Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another super newbie question
On Thursday 19 Jun 2003 6:18 pm, Ralph Bagwell wrote: Now, about every third start up when the booting process gets to the KDE screen where it flashes about six things as it goes along - it stalls on the monitor - blinking for about a minute then up comes a blue screen - and I have no options but to reset. Hi, Ralph. Sounds to me as though the monitor is not set up properly. First, if you have the monitor manual, get it out so that you can verify exactly what settings it can take. Don't rely on memory from windows days - you probably need more detail than that would give you, like possible refresh rates. Then, open up Mandrake Control Center. On the Hardware section there is a tool for setting up the monitor. HTH Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another super newbie question
Anne , thanks heaps. Did what you said and have booted up three times now with no glitches -. I got another question for ya - don't tell anyone I asked/. I have managed to upgrade to KDE 312 on my right box - but I can't do the same on the left box - maybe I have forgotten what I did. What is the correct way to do that? (and should I bother) ? (still working on trying to print with the Epson thru the LAN from the right box - [while in Windows] ). Having now installed 9.1 on that box (dual booting with XP) printing works just fine.) On Thursday 19 Jun 2003 6:18 pm, Ralph Bagwell wrote: Now, about every third start up when the booting process gets to the KDE screen where it flashes about six things as it goes along - it stalls on the monitor - blinking for about a minute then up comes a blue screen - and I have no options but to reset. Hi, Ralph. Sounds to me as though the monitor is not set up properly. First, if you have the monitor manual, get it out so that you can verify exactly what settings it can take. Don't rely on memory from windows days - you probably need more detail than that would give you, like possible refresh rates. Then, open up Mandrake Control Center. On the Hardware section there is a tool for setting up the monitor. HTH Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another super newbie question
On Wednesday 18 Jun 2003 12:54 am, Ralph Bagwell wrote: I have a system connecting to the web (using the nonfb option) and the names of the four programs that didn't load. You stand a better chance of getting an answer if: 1. You tell us the names of the four programs. 2. You tell us the error messages if any when you tried to install them. 3. You don't post in HTML. Many people here filter it out to reduce spam. How can I attempt to install them. You can try again by going to Mandrake Control Center, selecting Software, Add Software, and selecting the programs. Without knowing which programs they are no one can tell you how likely that is to work. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another super newbie question
Ralph Bagwell wrote: My 9.1 install went so-so on my left machine ( I simply replaced the drive - installed XP - left half of the 40 GB available - ) Four things failed to install - two from the first disk and two from the second disk. When Linux failed to boot , I selected Linux - nonfb and it booted . What is nonfb ? Non framebuffer. Looks like you have a problem with your video card configuration. I have a system connecting to the web (using the nonfb option) and the names of the four programs that didn't load. How can I attempt to install them. BTW each of the four items are readable and copyable from the CD's (using Windows - same CD reader - same everything booting up in XP) From the Mandrake Control Center or the main menu, go to Add Packages and check to see if they're on the list of available packages. If they're not showing up, it looks like the files on your CD are damaged. If they do, try installing them. If they still won't install, try doing the same thing from a terminal command line with urpmi plus the name of the package and see what error messages you get. Sir Robin -- Some guy breaking into a government computer system and wreaking havoc makes for a more interesting movie plot than some guy writing device drivers. It's hard to work in a good 10-minutes car chase scene with some guy who writes device drivers... - tjc, post to LWN Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Another super newbie question
My 9.1 install went"so-so" on my "left" machine ( I simply replaced the drive - installed XP - left half of the 40 GB available - ) Four "things" failed to install - two from the first disk and two from the second disk. When Linux failed to boot , I selected "Linux - nonfb" and it booted . What is "nonfb" ? I have a system connecting to the web (using the "nonfb" option) and the names of the four programs that didn't load. How can I attempt to install them. BTW each of the four items are readable and copyable from the CD's (using Windows" - same CD reader - same everything booting up in XP) Ralph
[newbie] question about network shares.
I forgot to ask ,in my previous questions the following: Let's say that I have a harddisk FAT32 in /mnt/disk1 How can I make it shared in networking? The system says that I can make shares only in the /home directory. koppermind Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] question on tarballing up the ~/wine folder
I am playing around with wine. It is working just fine on my MDK9 install. I also have an RH8 install on another box. I was wondering if anyone has tried tarballing the ~/wine directory and moving it to another box OR distro'ed box and it still work. My thought on doing this is that it is linux and box MDK9 and RH8 are both LSB 1.2 certified. So in that case as long as the appropriate rpm's are installed on the new box then it should work fine. Correct? TIA Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] question on tarballing up the ~/wine folder
Robert Wideman wrote: I am playing around with wine. It is working just fine on my MDK9 install. I also have an RH8 install on another box. I was wondering if anyone has tried tarballing the ~/wine directory and moving it to another box OR distro'ed box and it still work. My thought on doing this is that it is linux and box MDK9 and RH8 are both LSB 1.2 certified. So in that case as long as the appropriate rpm's are installed on the new box then it should work fine. Correct? Should be, so long as everything else is the same (e.g. Windows partition, if you're using one). Sir Robin -- A Perl script is correct if it gets the job done before your boss fires you. - Larry Wall Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] question about Kmail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi List, I'm curious about something. With Kmail, is there a way to advance from on message to another with the view pane completely closed and viewing the message in a window all its own? I use this method of reading messages with Mozilla and would like to be able to do this as well in Kmail but it doesn't appear to want to cooperate. thanks, - -- Mark - -- Powered By Mandrake Liinux 9.0 || Toshiba Portege ICQ# 27816299 - -- Saying Open Source DRM is the same as saying Military Intelligence. Repeating it makes my brain hurt! author Unknown... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Np4Slz3cA934DmQRAjBlAJ49NxYQod+f7nZ6pVLwTBbLpovoVwCfSMMn XBLezbCUjDhJMrAs/cfqP/g= =3rtb -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Question: how to get rid of ridiculously large font on the non-KDEapplications?
Hi, I have a problem with system fonts on the non-KDE applications. All in a sudden, all the non-KDE application appear with very large fonts on the menu and on the buttons. The button, text box are also expanded. I'm not quite sure what happen to them but when I look at the FAQ in the KDE website, it said I should uncheck the apply KDE settings to non-KDE apps check box under Look and Feel and Style. The problem is that I can't find that option anywhere in the entire Control Panel. Please let me know how to fix this. There is also a suspicious message when I start up Linux. When it try to set the system font to lat1-16, it says that file execvp doesn't exist. I'm not quite sure what this means and whether it relate to the other problem or not. I'm using Mandrake 9.0 so it is KDE 3 Thanks, Vinh N. Pham Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] question about log files
On Tuesday 10 December 2002 01:58, Angus Auld wrote: Richard, does anacron need to be configured to do that, or is that default behaviour? Default in 8.2, but I've just seen Derek Jennings say that's changed in 9.0. All I know is my laptop gets very excited if it hasn't been booted for a few days. Richard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] question about log files
On Monday 09 Dec 2002 2:01 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 12:43, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, another newbie question. :-) This is something I have been wondering about for awhile. Is there a program on my Mdk system that looks after log files? To keep them from getting too large? Or is there a ceiling on how big these files can get? Seems like wasted space after a while. My /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog are 4.5 and 4.8mb respectively. They have messages going back to my install date on Oct 4. Will these files just continue to grow? I know, dumb question. But, inquiring minds want to know. TIA for any feedback. :-) --Angus There is a cap on the logs, yes. The cap is directly determined by the amount of free space that you have left on your drive. Once the logfiles grow to such an extent as to compromise the available free space, the syslog daemon will then begin to delete unwanted binaries from your system, along with other unused and unproductive things like bookmarks, mp3 files, avi's, mpeg's, wallpapers, gif's, jpg's, user accounts and etc. There does come a time when the log files have grown so large that the actual OS itself, if it can't be compressed and run in RAM, is thence deleted itself, and upon next boot, you are notified that you should have maintained your log files from the very beginning by deleting the unwanted logfiles, or out of date log files. At that point, you have to completely reinstall and then configure your log files properly. There is a daemon that will look after logfiles. It is called logrotate and will run as a cron job. When the log files reach a certain age or size they are compressed as a .gz compressed file. The system will keep up to 4 compressed log files, and then discard the oldest. Every time an RPM is installed which creates logs the logrotate config file is updated to manage the log files. So long as logrote is running you will never suffer an issue with log files. See man logrotate derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] question about log files
Subject: Re: [newbie] question about log files On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 12:43, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, another newbie question. :-) This is something I have been wondering about for awhile. Is there a program on my Mdk system that looks after log files? To keep them from getting too large? Or is there a ceiling on how big these files can get? Seems like wasted space after a while. SNIP The program is called logrotate. If you leave your computer on overnight Mandrake has automatically set cron to do the rotate once a week at 4am. The config files are in /etc/logrotate.d/. For more info open your terminal and man logrotate. Someone else my have already answered this but i have been horsing with my kmail threading and don't know whic list mails i have glanced at and deleted. -- Michael ** Thanks ppl for all the valuable info. All stuff I didn't knowwasn't such a dumb question after all. ;-) I'll leave my comp on overnight and let logrotate do it's thing. All the best. --Angus You can always change the time logrotate runs. Either use Webmin, or directly edit /etc/crontab. Logrotate runs daily, so all you have to do is modify the entry for cron.daily. 56 10 * * * root nice -n 19 run-parts /etc/cron.daily This entry means run at 10:56 am, every day, every week derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] question about log files
- Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 10:29:53 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] question about log files Subject: Re: [newbie] question about log files On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 12:43, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, another newbie question. :-) This is something I have been wondering about for awhile. Is there a program on my Mdk system that looks after log files? To keep them from getting too large? Or is there a ceiling on how big these files can get? Seems like wasted space after a while. SNIP The program is called logrotate. If you leave your computer on overnight Mandrake has automatically set cron to do the rotate once a week at 4am. The config files are in /etc/logrotate.d/. For more info open your terminal and man logrotate. Someone else my have already answered this but i have been horsing with my kmail threading and don't know whic list mails i have glanced at and deleted. -- Michael ** Thanks ppl for all the valuable info. All stuff I didn't knowwasn't such a dumb question after all. ;-) I'll leave my comp on overnight and let logrotate do it's thing. All the best. --Angus You can always change the time logrotate runs. Either use Webmin, or directly edit /etc/crontab. Logrotate runs daily, so all you have to do is modify the entry for cron.daily. 56 10 * * * root nice -n 19 run-parts /etc/cron.daily This entry means run at 10:56 am, every day, every week derek *** Thanks for that explanation Derek! I learned a ton of things by asking a question that I felt was maybe a bit lame. I wanted to know, and now I'm very glad I asked. I left my comp on last night, and I see that everything has been tidied up in /var/log. Super! I may change the runtime of cron.daily like you suggest. Am I right to assume that the time is indicated in a 24hr manner? (8pm would be 00 20?) I'm not in the habit of leaving my computer on continously, so I wonder if if it would be a good idea to change the runtime of cron.weekly and cron.monthly too? Thanks again. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** -- ___ Get your free email from http://mymail.operamail.com Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] question about log files
On Monday 09 December 2002 05:02, Angus Auld wrote: I'll leave my comp on overnight and let logrotate do it's thing. All the best. --Angus When you boot, anacron starts, works out which cron jobs have been missed, and runs them. So logrotate should happen for you the day after the cron job was scheduled. Richard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] question about log files
- Original Message - From: RichardA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 21:06:45 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] question about log files On Monday 09 December 2002 05:02, Angus Auld wrote: I'll leave my comp on overnight and let logrotate do it's thing. All the best. --Angus When you boot, anacron starts, works out which cron jobs have been missed, and runs them. So logrotate should happen for you the day after the cron job was scheduled. Richard ** Richard, does anacron need to be configured to do that, or is that default behaviour? It didn't seem to be happening in my case. Last night was the first time I can see that logrotate did anything in /var/log. I use my computer daily almost w/o exception. I had compressed log files and nice clean replacement ones this morning. First time since install on Oct 4. Thanks for your reply. All the best to you. :-) --Angus We give thanks to the Creator for the fruits of life. May the world we leave our children be a better one than was left to us.--Native American Philosophy -- ___ Get your free email from http://mymail.operamail.com Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] question about log files
Greetings, another newbie question. :-) This is something I have been wondering about for awhile. Is there a program on my Mdk system that looks after log files? To keep them from getting too large? Or is there a ceiling on how big these files can get? Seems like wasted space after a while. My /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog are 4.5 and 4.8mb respectively. They have messages going back to my install date on Oct 4. Will these files just continue to grow? I know, dumb question. But, inquiring minds want to know. TIA for any feedback. :-) --Angus Time is a friend, a healer, a maker of dreams.--Flavia -- ___ Get your free email from http://mymail.operamail.com Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] question about log files
On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 12:43, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, another newbie question. :-) This is something I have been wondering about for awhile. Is there a program on my Mdk system that looks after log files? To keep them from getting too large? Or is there a ceiling on how big these files can get? Seems like wasted space after a while. My /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog are 4.5 and 4.8mb respectively. They have messages going back to my install date on Oct 4. Will these files just continue to grow? I know, dumb question. But, inquiring minds want to know. TIA for any feedback. :-) --Angus There is a cap on the logs, yes. The cap is directly determined by the amount of free space that you have left on your drive. Once the logfiles grow to such an extent as to compromise the available free space, the syslog daemon will then begin to delete unwanted binaries from your system, along with other unused and unproductive things like bookmarks, mp3 files, avi's, mpeg's, wallpapers, gif's, jpg's, user accounts and etc. There does come a time when the log files have grown so large that the actual OS itself, if it can't be compressed and run in RAM, is thence deleted itself, and upon next boot, you are notified that you should have maintained your log files from the very beginning by deleting the unwanted logfiles, or out of date log files. At that point, you have to completely reinstall and then configure your log files properly. -- Mon Dec 9 12:55:01 EST 2002 12:55pm up 16:40, 5 users, load average: 0.80, 0.84, 0.67 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn Thus spake the master programmer: When you have learned to snatch the error code from the trap frame, it will be time for you to leave. -- Geoffrey James, The Tao of Programming Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] question about log files
- Original Message - From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 09 Dec 2002 13:01:20 +1100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] question about log files On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 12:43, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, another newbie question. :-) This is something I have been wondering about for awhile. Is there a program on my Mdk system that looks after log files? To keep them from getting too large? Or is there a ceiling on how big these files can get? Seems like wasted space after a while. My /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog are 4.5 and 4.8mb respectively. They have messages going back to my install date on Oct 4. Will these files just continue to grow? I know, dumb question. But, inquiring minds want to know. TIA for any feedback. :-) --Angus There is a cap on the logs, yes. The cap is directly determined by the amount of free space that you have left on your drive. Once the logfiles grow to such an extent as to compromise the available free space, the syslog daemon will then begin to delete unwanted binaries from your system, along with other unused and unproductive things like bookmarks, mp3 files, avi's, mpeg's, wallpapers, gif's, jpg's, user accounts and etc. There does come a time when the log files have grown so large that the actual OS itself, if it can't be compressed and run in RAM, is thence deleted itself, and upon next boot, you are notified that you should have maintained your log files from the very beginning by deleting the unwanted logfiles, or out of date log files. At that point, you have to completely reinstall and then configure your log files properly. -- Mon Dec 9 12:55:01 EST 2002 12:55pm up 16:40, 5 users, load average: 0.80, 0.84, 0.67 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn Thus spake the master programmer: When you have learned to snatch the error code from the trap frame, it will be time for you to leave. -- Geoffrey James, The Tao of Programming * I guess I better keep an eye on those files then, huh? ;-) This list is sure a lot of fun. I never had half this much fun when I used that other OS. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** -- ___ Get your free email from http://mymail.operamail.com Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] question about log files - OT a bit
On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 13:18, Angus Auld wrote: This list is sure a lot of fun. I never had half this much fun when I used that other OS. --Angus If you're on an email list and there isn't a slight bit of humor, then something's definitely wrong with the list. -- Mon Dec 9 13:30:00 EST 2002 1:30pm up 17:15, 5 users, load average: 0.02, 0.44, 0.64 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn It wasn't that she had a rose in her teeth, exactly. It was more like the rose and the teeth were in the same glass. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] question about log files
- Original Message - From: Michael Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 17:39:57 +1300 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] question about log files On Mon, 09 Dec 2002 15:18, Angus Auld wrote: - Original Message - From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 09 Dec 2002 13:01:20 +1100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] question about log files On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 12:43, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, another newbie question. :-) This is something I have been wondering about for awhile. Is there a program on my Mdk system that looks after log files? To keep them from getting too large? Or is there a ceiling on how big these files can get? Seems like wasted space after a while. My /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog are 4.5 and 4.8mb respectively. They have messages going back to my install date on Oct 4. Will these files just continue to grow? I know, dumb question. But, inquiring minds want to know. TIA for any feedback. :-) --Angus There is a cap on the logs, yes. The cap is directly determined by the amount of free space that you have left on your drive. Once the logfiles grow to such an extent as to compromise the available free space, the syslog daemon will then begin to delete unwanted binaries from your system, along with other unused and unproductive things like bookmarks, mp3 files, avi's, mpeg's, wallpapers, gif's, jpg's, user accounts and etc. There does come a time when the log files have grown so large that the actual OS itself, if it can't be compressed and run in RAM, is thence deleted itself, and upon next boot, you are notified that you should have maintained your log files from the very beginning by deleting the unwanted logfiles, or out of date log files. At that point, you have to completely reinstall and then configure your log files properly. -- I guess I better keep an eye on those files then, huh? ;-) This list is sure a lot of fun. I never had half this much fun when I used that other OS. --Angus The program is called logrotate. If you leave your computer on overnight Mandrake has automatically set cron to do the rotate once a week at 4am. The config files are in /etc/logrotate.d/. For more info open your terminal and man logrotate. Someone else my have already answered this but i have been horsing with my kmail threading and don't know whic list mails i have glanced at and deleted. -- Michael ** Thanks ppl for all the valuable info. All stuff I didn't knowwasn't such a dumb question after all. ;-) I'll leave my comp on overnight and let logrotate do it's thing. All the best. --Angus How do you destroy a righteous person? Give him or her one follower! --ancient Cherokee saying (fr. Earth Medicine by Jamie Sams) *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** -- ___ Get your free email from http://mymail.operamail.com Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] question MCC, samba and /etc/init.d
On Mon, 2002-11-18 at 21:38, Stormjumper wrote: i'm wondering where samba is usually started in Mdk 8.2. the reason i'm asking is that everytime i wanna access my mdk 8.2 box from any windoze machine, i've to ssh in, and manually kill (as root) the most recent smbd process before i can successfully access it, else windoze will pop up a dialog box saying the \\Mandrake is not accessible fwiw, smbd and nmbd will show up in a 'ps -u root' as processes that started at boot time, then another smbd process will show up the moment the mdk8.2 box is accessed by a win machine. therefore, i'm suspecting that somehow, something is starting smbd for an extra and unnecessary time, causing the problem. any ideas, anyone? regards Have you configured SAMBA through SWAT? If Samba is configured properly, you should have no problems in accessing anything that you've setup to share via SMB...so it would have me wondering if there's something hosed up in your /etc/samba/smb.conf that is denying you access to the MDK box.. -- Tue Nov 19 06:35:00 EST 2002 |____ | | / \ /| |'-. | | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | | | / \__.`=._) (_ |kuhn media australia | |/ ._/ || |http://kma.0catch.com | |'. `\ | | |stephen kuhn | ;/ / | | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | smk ) /_/| |.---.| |mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' |linux user:267497 I've got a very bad feeling about this. -- Han Solo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] question MCC, samba and /etc/init.d
thank you stephen. the issue is not so much my smb.conf, since killing the 2nd smbd process solves the problems. rather, i'm stumped as to which script/tool is starting smbd the 2nd time. if i can turn that off, my problem will be solved. thanks On 19 Nov 2002 06:39:44 +1100 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2002-11-18 at 21:38, Stormjumper wrote: i'm wondering where samba is usually started in Mdk 8.2. the reason i'm asking is that everytime i wanna access my mdk 8.2 box from any windoze machine, i've to ssh in, and manually kill (as root) the most recent smbd process before i can successfully access it, else windoze will pop up a dialog box saying the \\Mandrake is not accessible fwiw, smbd and nmbd will show up in a 'ps -u root' as processes that started at boot time, then another smbd process will show up the moment the mdk8.2 box is accessed by a win machine. therefore, i'm suspecting that somehow, something is starting smbd for an extra and unnecessary time, causing the problem. any ideas, anyone? regards Have you configured SAMBA through SWAT? If Samba is configured properly, you should have no problems in accessing anything that you've setup to share via SMB...so it would have me wondering if there's something hosed up in your /etc/samba/smb.conf that is denying you access to the MDK box.. -- Tue Nov 19 06:35:00 EST 2002 |____ | | / \ /| |'-. | | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | | | / \__.`=._) (_ |kuhn media australia | |/ ._/ || |http://kma.0catch.com | |'. `\ | | |stephen kuhn | ;/ / | | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | smk ) /_/| |.---.| |mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' |linux user:267497 I've got a very bad feeling about this. -- Han Solo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
