Re: [newbie] Warning to windows users - virused message (Re: document)
This email contained the [EMAIL PROTECTED] virus. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please read the document. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Warning to windows users - virused message (Re: document)
I had that particular one in my inbox too. But it came direct, not via the group. Same from address and all.. JRH - Original Message - From: John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning to windows users - virused message (Re: document) This email contained the [EMAIL PROTECTED] virus. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please read the document. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Warning to windows users - virused message (Re: document)
I can't get this to run. Linux says it doesn't recognise the file suffix. Maybe I need to install an emulator. :) On Friday 04 Jun 2004 4:11 pm, John wrote: This email contained the [EMAIL PROTECTED] virus. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please read the document. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] warning on tcpdump and libcap
warning on tcpdump and libcap I've just recieved the following, don't know if its true ! Hi, Apparently libpcap and tcpdump have been trojaned, in a similar way to openssh earlier this year. Information about how long this has been the case is sketchy. Trojaned versions appear to have made it out to a number of mirrors. Further details can be found at http://hlug.fscker.com (mirror http://www2.def-con.org/mirror/hlug.fscker.com/ appears to work). The tarballs available at www.tcpdump.org appear to still be trojaned. Good sources: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/distfiles/libpcap-0.7 .1.tar.gz http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/distfiles/tcpdump-3.6 .2.tar.gz http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/distfiles/tcpdump-3.7 .1.tar.gz MD5 Sum 0597c23e3496a5c108097b2a0f1bd0c7 libpcap-0.7.1.tar.gz MD5 Sum 6bc8da35f9eed4e675bfdf04ce312248 tcpdump-3.6.2.tar.gz MD5 Sum 03e5eac68c65b7e6ce8da03b0b0b225e tcpdump-3.7.1.tar.gz Trojaned sources: http://www.tcpdump.org/release/libpcap-0.7.1.tar.gz http://www.tcpdump.org/release/tcpdump-3.6.2.tar.gz http://www.tcpdump.org/release/tcpdump-3.7.1.tar.gz MD5 Sum 73ba7af963aff7c9e23fa1308a793dca libpcap-0.7.1.tar.gz MD5 Sum 3a1c2dd3471486f9c7df87029bf2f1e9 tcpdump-3.6.2.tar.gz MD5 Sum 3c410d8434e63fb3931fe77328e4dd88 tcpdump-3.7.1.tar.gz The program connects to 212.146.0.34 (mars.raketti.net) on port 1963 when the configure script is run. Sites with logs of network traffic may wish to check for connections to this IP over recent days. We would be interested in hearing about any machines found to be compromised using this route. Regards Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Warning on boot
I've been playing bzflag for a day or so and suddenly its began to lockup the system sporadically and causing a warm boot via the reset switch. During the inital startup of mandrake I noticed the following, I didn't get the whole line, I'm not sure how to pause the boot process :( EXT2-FS Warning checktime reached/exceeded,(can't remember which) running e2fsck is recommended. I've never noticed this before, of course I don't pay much attention to what scrolls by in the beginning and I try not to reboot unless I have to. What does this mean and is it something I need to do and if so, how? I doubt whether bzflag has anything to do with this at all but I can't figure out the reason for the sudden lockups in the game either. -- Regards Chris Registered Linux user #283774 http://counter.li.org 3:44pm up 5 min, 1 user, load average: 0.08, 0.14, 0.07 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] warning
I caught a virus from this mailing list, on windows xp, it wasn't something i noticed for awhile. What it did is slowly deleted .jpgs. zips and all other popular extensions and rewrote them as the virus. I had to reformat my computer as the virus wouldnt let me install norton. Be ware, scan your system.. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] warning
Which virus? I don't run Windows at home or work, but would be curious to know which one. -Scott On Sunday 13 January 2002 02:19 pm, Jesse Angell wrote: I caught a virus from this mailing list, on windows xp, it wasn't something i noticed for awhile. What it did is slowly deleted .jpgs. zips and all other popular extensions and rewrote them as the virus. I had to reformat my computer as the virus wouldnt let me install norton. Be ware, scan your system.. -- Mandrake Linux 8.1 Kernel version 2.4.8-34.1mdk uptime: 1 hour 11 minutes. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] warning
On Sunday 13 January 2002 21:19, Jesse Angell wrote: I caught a virus from this mailing list, on windows xp, it wasn't ... Be ware, scan your system.. Or use Linux instead. -- Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa) [EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za http://www.geocities.com/clasqm This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC f u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb n nx dmnstrtn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
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RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
This bring up a good point, though. How SHOULD one upgrade their kernel? -Original Message- From: Ed Tharp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 11:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake NO Mandrake says do NOT upgrade the kernal VIA packagemanger Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
Just for fun, I decided to see what I had done to my machine. I was running -26 of the kernel and according the RPM manager, I had installed -34. When I reboot, I get: Loading LinuxEBDA too big and it stops there... You all were right! :-) -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 11:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake With the kernel you have to reboot for it to take effect. Try this at the command line type in : uname -a You'll see the current kernel that your using. Before you do reboot. Make sure you have a bootdisk and you have read the steps I had to take. Because once you reboot, your not going anywhere until you install the kernel the correct way. From: Johnson, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:56:03 -0500 That's the beauty of Linux. I shouldn't HAVE to reboot...right? :-) Fortunately, it's only a machine for me to learn the OS on, so I don't have a problem wiping and re-installing... -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Ah so you haven't rebooted eh. Go ahead, and reboot then come back to the list with your findings. I did the package install and it was fine for a few hours, after i did the reboot, then it took the new kernel and thats when the problems started. From: Johnson, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:11:46 -0500 Hmm. I did this update some time ago via the package manager without problem. System has not been rebooted since...I don't think that a blanket DO NOT DO THIS is appropriate. Of course you must be very careful when doing something as drastic as updating your kernel. Just make sure you have a way out planned before-hand! -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Just a warning to those who like using the Mandrakes Package Manager. When your run the check for new security patches and you see the option to update your kernel. DON'T! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
I hope you took my word and made a bootdisk From: Johnson, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 15:03:02 -0500 Just for fun, I decided to see what I had done to my machine. I was running -26 of the kernel and according the RPM manager, I had installed -34. When I reboot, I get: Loading LinuxEBDA too big and it stops there... You all were right! :-) -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 11:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake With the kernel you have to reboot for it to take effect. Try this at the command line type in : uname -a You'll see the current kernel that your using. Before you do reboot. Make sure you have a bootdisk and you have read the steps I had to take. Because once you reboot, your not going anywhere until you install the kernel the correct way. From: Johnson, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:56:03 -0500 That's the beauty of Linux. I shouldn't HAVE to reboot...right? :-) Fortunately, it's only a machine for me to learn the OS on, so I don't have a problem wiping and re-installing... -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Ah so you haven't rebooted eh. Go ahead, and reboot then come back to the list with your findings. I did the package install and it was fine for a few hours, after i did the reboot, then it took the new kernel and thats when the problems started. From: Johnson, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:11:46 -0500 Hmm. I did this update some time ago via the package manager without problem. System has not been rebooted since...I don't think that a blanket DO NOT DO THIS is appropriate. Of course you must be very careful when doing something as drastic as updating your kernel. Just make sure you have a way out planned before-hand! -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Just a warning to those who like using the Mandrakes Package Manager. When your run the check for new security patches and you see the option to update your kernel. DON'T! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
Title: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake I got the same thing, but then discovered that lilo had the wrong harddrive as the boot drive. Go in with your boot disk and check the lilo configuration to make sure it is reading the hda1 or what ever your boot partition is, correct it if need be and run /sbin/lilo from a console and see if that doesn't get you a clean boot. I have (I say again) no problems on two computers with the new kernel installation. I don't know what I did wrong: ) Dennis M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Johnson, David Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 2:03 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Just for fun, I decided to see what I had done to my machine. I was running -26 of the kernel and according the RPM manager, I had installed -34. When I reboot, I get: Loading LinuxEBDA too big and it stops there... You all were right! :-) -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 11:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake With the kernel you have to reboot for it to take effect. Try this at the command line type in : uname -a You'll see the current kernel that your using. Before you do reboot. Make sure you have a bootdisk and you have read the steps I had to take. Because once you reboot, your not going anywhere until you install the kernel the correct way. From: Johnson, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:56:03 -0500 That's the beauty of Linux. I shouldn't HAVE to reboot...right? :-) Fortunately, it's only a machine for me to learn the OS on, so I don't have a problem wiping and re-installing... -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Ah so you haven't rebooted eh. Go ahead, and reboot then come back to the list with your findings. I did the package install and it was fine for a few hours, after i did the reboot, then it took the new kernel and thats when the problems started. From: Johnson, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:11:46 -0500 Hmm. I did this update some time ago via the package manager without problem. System has not been rebooted since...I don't think that a blanket DO NOT DO THIS is appropriate. Of course you must be very careful when doing something as drastic as updating your kernel. Just make sure you have a way out planned before-hand! -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Just a warning to those who like using the Mandrakes Package Manager. When your run the check for new security patches and you see the option to update your kernel. DON'T! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
yeah, its a good point, but its an easy answer.. download your kernel rpm install it with rpm -ivh kernel.x.x.x.rpm (the I stands for install, as opposed to upgrade.) then get your new kernel headers, and upgrade them. rpm -Uvh kernel-headers.x.x.x.rpm The U being indicative of upgrade. That will work just wonderfully, and if for some reason, the install fails, it won't clag your install because the old kernel is still there to get you up and running again. once you know the new one works, you can remove the old with : rpm -e kernel.old.x.x I have been doing this for ages and its never failed. (ie, I have never toasted my old kernel installing the new one.) rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Johnson, David Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2001 3:42 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake This bring up a good point, though. How SHOULD one upgrade their kernel? -Original Message- From: Ed Tharp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 11:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake NO Mandrake says do NOT upgrade the kernal VIA packagemanger Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
Thanks for the great tip! I'll try that next time! :-) -Original Message- From: Franki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake yeah, its a good point, but its an easy answer.. download your kernel rpm install it with rpm -ivh kernel.x.x.x.rpm (the I stands for install, as opposed to upgrade.) then get your new kernel headers, and upgrade them. rpm -Uvh kernel-headers.x.x.x.rpm The U being indicative of upgrade. That will work just wonderfully, and if for some reason, the install fails, it won't clag your install because the old kernel is still there to get you up and running again. once you know the new one works, you can remove the old with : rpm -e kernel.old.x.x I have been doing this for ages and its never failed. (ie, I have never toasted my old kernel installing the new one.) rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Johnson, David Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2001 3:42 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake This bring up a good point, though. How SHOULD one upgrade their kernel? -Original Message- From: Ed Tharp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 11:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake NO Mandrake says do NOT upgrade the kernal VIA packagemanger Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:31:39 -0800 Myers, Dennis R NWO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got the same thing, but then discovered that lilo had the wrong harddrive as the boot drive. Go in with your boot disk and check the lilo configuration to make sure it is reading the hda1 or what ever your boot partition is, correct it if need be and run /sbin/lilo from a console and see if that doesn't get you a clean boot. I have (I say again) no problems on two computers with the new kernel installation. I don't know what I did wrong: ) Dennis M. This Will Not work if you have used MandrakeUpdate to Update the kernel and there is a problem with the new kernel installation. An orig boot disk will not work because that kernel no longer exists. A boot disk made with the New kernel will not work because the New kernel was not properly installed and configured. The proper way to install a New kerel is to manually download the kernel and do rpm -ivh (New kernel), this will leave the old kernel intact and still bootable. Run lilo and then double check all your config files. Make a boot disk containing the New kernel. Reboot your system and boot to the New kernel. If there are no problem and after having run the said kernel for a period of time then update/install the headers and source for the New kernel using rpm -Uvh (headers) (source) Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
Title: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Well son of a gun, somebody forgot to tell my computer that, cause it is using the new kernel and it does boot from lilo and the old kernel is, yes, gone. So until I have problems with what's up and running I will leave it alone for now. Next time I will use the ivh install cause everyone else seems to have the problem and mine could have been a fluke as was mentioned earlier. But, as I said to begin with, I used the Mandrake Upgrade just to see what would happen, as the computer in question is the one I use for testing and experimenting for the sake of learning about what happens if I do this..? Linux, the possibilities are infinite.: ) Dennis M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles A Edwards Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:31:39 -0800 Myers, Dennis R NWO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got the same thing, but then discovered that lilo had the wrong harddrive as the boot drive. Go in with your boot disk and check the lilo configuration to make sure it is reading the hda1 or what ever your boot partition is, correct it if need be and run /sbin/lilo from a console and see if that doesn't get you a clean boot. I have (I say again) no problems on two computers with the new kernel installation. I don't know what I did wrong: ) Dennis M. This Will Not work if you have used MandrakeUpdate to Update the kernel and there is a problem with the new kernel installation. An orig boot disk will not work because that kernel no longer exists. A boot disk made with the New kernel will not work because the New kernel was not properly installed and configured. The proper way to install a New kerel is to manually download the kernel and do rpm -ivh (New kernel), this will leave the old kernel intact and still bootable. Run lilo and then double check all your config files. Make a boot disk containing the New kernel. Reboot your system and boot to the New kernel. If there are no problem and after having run the said kernel for a period of time then update/install the headers and source for the New kernel using rpm -Uvh (headers) (source) Charles
Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
The Mandrakesecure.net has an excelent document of upgrades, with a how-to for the kernel. I don't know if it is still in the newbie archives, but here is the link: http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/magic.php Barry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:28:38 -0800 Myers, Dennis R NWO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well son of a gun, somebody forgot to tell my computer that, cause it is using the new kernel and it does boot from lilo and the old kernel is, yes, gone. So until I have problems with what's up and running I will leave it alone for now. Next time I will use the ivh install cause everyone else seems to have the problem and mine could have been a fluke as was mentioned earlier. But, as I said to begin with, I used the Mandrake Upgrade just to see what would happen, as the computer in question is the one I use for testing and experimenting for the sake of learning about what happens if I do this..? Linux, the possibilities are infinite.: ) Dennis M. Dennis I was not implying that it did not work on your system. 1 time in 10 using Mandrakeupdate to update the kernel will work without problem. Yours was 1 of those occasions. Other than the wrong boot drive your kernel Was properly installed. It is the other 9 times when the kernel Is Not properly installed that are the problem and the reason for warning against upgrading the kernel in that manner. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
Title: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake no, not a fluke, upgrade "should" work.. The point is that if it doesn't, you no longer have a bootable kernel.. and thats BAD Thats why install is preferred, because you won't hose your install by destrying your working kernel to install a new one.. So you shouldn't "upgrade" your kernel, because if it doesn't work for some reason, you no longer have aworkin distro. rgds Frank -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Myers, Dennis R NWOSent: Thursday, 20 December 2001 2:29 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Well son of a gun, somebody forgot to tell my computer that, cause it is using the new kernel and it does boot from lilo and the old kernel is, yes, gone. So until I have problems with what's up and running I will leave it alone for now. Next time I will use the ivh install cause everyone else seems to have the problem and mine could have been a fluke as was mentioned earlier. But, as I said to begin with, I used the Mandrake Upgrade just to see what would happen, as the computer in question is the one I use for testing and experimenting for the sake of learning about "what happens if I do this..?" Linux, the possibilities are infinite.: ) Dennis M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles A Edwards Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:31:39 -0800 "Myers, Dennis R NWO" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got the same thing, but then discovered that lilo had the wrong harddrive as the boot drive. Go in with your boot disk and check the lilo configuration to make sure it is reading the hda1 or what ever your boot partition is, correct it if need be and run /sbin/lilo from a console and see if that doesn't get you a clean boot. I have (I say again) no problems on two computers with the new kernel installation. I don't know what I did wrong: ) Dennis M. This Will Not work if you have used MandrakeUpdate to Update the kernel and there is a problem with the new kernel installation. An orig boot disk will not work because that kernel no longer exists. A boot disk made with the New kernel will not work because the New kernel was not properly installed and configured. The proper way to install a New kerel is to manually download the kernel and do rpm -ivh (New kernel), this will leave the old kernel intact and still bootable. Run lilo and then double check all your config files. Make a boot disk containing the New kernel. Reboot your system and boot to the New kernel. If there are no problem and after having run the said kernel for a period of time then update/install the headers and source for the New kernel using rpm -Uvh (headers) (source) Charles
Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
Package Manager works just fine. BUT: After upgrading a kernel, you need to go in and fix /boot. Package Managere doesn't do that, and it will leave you pretty much broken. Once you've fixed /boot, check /etc/lilo.conf for validity, and then run lilo to set the changes. Your next reboot should be fine after that. To the person who upgraded their kernel, and has not yet rebooted... Reboot the thing! The new kernel won't take effect until you do. Ric David .. wrote: Just a warning to those who like using the Mandrakes Package Manager. When your run the check for new security patches and you see the option to update your kernel. DON'T! Do NOT and I repeat, DO NOT upgrade your kernel via the package manager. Learning from my 3 hr mistake! After the upgrade from -26 to -36, I lost all networking, sound, video was crappy. You name it, I had problems with. After trying for 3 hrs I was able to figure out what I needed to do. Get to the commandline, run: rpm -qa|grep -i kernel Find out what verion of the kernel is currently installed and remove it but using: rpm -e --nodeps kernel version, then reinstall the last known kernal that was working for you, or grab it from your Mandrake CDs. Funny enough I got a phone call from a friend who had just install the lastest kernel from the cooker and had the same problems. I was able to help him out in a few minutes after learning from my mistake. But one difference was that he had removed the kernel as explained above and then ran the the CD as in the UPDATE mode, this was able to patchup his system with the kernel from the CD as well. So fair warning, Don't run the update from package manager. You have been warned. _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
With many things, that's absolutely right. However, the kernel is an exception to that. Think about it. The kernel is loaded at boot time. It IS linux. To run the new kernel, you must reboot. PS: Just a hint, before you do that, check /boot. You'll find borken links, and a missing initrd.img. You'll need to patch that up by hand before rebooting, or you'll crash burn, and have to resort to rescue mode to get it fixed. Good Luck! ric Johnson, David wrote: That's the beauty of Linux. I shouldn't HAVE to reboot...right? :-) Fortunately, it's only a machine for me to learn the OS on, so I don't have a problem wiping and re-installing... -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Ah so you haven't rebooted eh. Go ahead, and reboot then come back to the list with your findings. I did the package install and it was fine for a few hours, after i did the reboot, then it took the new kernel and thats when the problems started. From: Johnson, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:11:46 -0500 Hmm. I did this update some time ago via the package manager without problem. System has not been rebooted since...I don't think that a blanket DO NOT DO THIS is appropriate. Of course you must be very careful when doing something as drastic as updating your kernel. Just make sure you have a way out planned before-hand! -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Just a warning to those who like using the Mandrakes Package Manager. When your run the check for new security patches and you see the option to update your kernel. DON'T! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
I did not, but I have been wanting an excuse to re-install the OS anyway...I'm still new at this OS and had messed some things up before. This gives me a good chance to clean house again... (Maybe I should just learn to fix my mistakes! :-) -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 8:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake I hope you took my word and made a bootdisk From: Johnson, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 15:03:02 -0500 Just for fun, I decided to see what I had done to my machine. I was running -26 of the kernel and according the RPM manager, I had installed -34. When I reboot, I get: Loading LinuxEBDA too big and it stops there... You all were right! :-) -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 11:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake With the kernel you have to reboot for it to take effect. Try this at the command line type in : uname -a You'll see the current kernel that your using. Before you do reboot. Make sure you have a bootdisk and you have read the steps I had to take. Because once you reboot, your not going anywhere until you install the kernel the correct way. From: Johnson, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:56:03 -0500 That's the beauty of Linux. I shouldn't HAVE to reboot...right? :-) Fortunately, it's only a machine for me to learn the OS on, so I don't have a problem wiping and re-installing... -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Ah so you haven't rebooted eh. Go ahead, and reboot then come back to the list with your findings. I did the package install and it was fine for a few hours, after i did the reboot, then it took the new kernel and thats when the problems started. From: Johnson, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:11:46 -0500 Hmm. I did this update some time ago via the package manager without problem. System has not been rebooted since...I don't think that a blanket DO NOT DO THIS is appropriate. Of course you must be very careful when doing something as drastic as updating your kernel. Just make sure you have a way out planned before-hand! -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Just a warning to those who like using the Mandrakes Package Manager. When your run the check for new security patches and you see the option to update your kernel. DON'T! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
kernel updating (was: [newbie] Warning for newbies...]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, David .. wrote: I've got an email warning about that! But I almost got into trouble because the kernel updating was available to upgrade on-lne! I've use the rpm -ivh options for the kernel! How about the source and headers? Is it safe? using Mandrake update, I mean! I've tried manually and it did *not* work out! (wih -ivh option!)! []s Ricardo Castanho Just a warning to those who like using the Mandrakes Package Manager. When your run the check for new security patches and you see the option to update your kernel. DON'T! Do NOT and I repeat, DO NOT upgrade your kernel via the package manager. Learning from my 3 hr mistake! After the upgrade from -26 to -36, I lost all networking, sound, video was crappy. You name it, I had problems with. After trying for 3 hrs I was able to figure out what I needed to do. Get to the commandline, run: rpm -qa|grep -i kernel Find out what verion of the kernel is currently installed and remove it but using: rpm -e --nodeps kernel version, then reinstall the last known kernal that was working for you, or grab it from your Mandrake CDs. Funny enough I got a phone call from a friend who had just install the lastest kernel from the cooker and had the same problems. I was able to help him out in a few minutes after learning from my mistake. But one difference was that he had removed the kernel as explained above and then ran the the CD as in the UPDATE mode, this was able to patchup his system with the kernel from the CD as well. So fair warning, Don't run the update from package manager. You have been warned. - -- delivery NOT reliable = [EMAIL PROTECTED] == Linux user # 102240 = Machine # 96125 = Seti@home user == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Para mais informações veja http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjweXAQACgkQqJymTCNNyXH14ACfc/LB08YdKqdNKJrc1eBigjQx iu0AoMndZGR9tFSn1Js2bKAthDMSu+7w =3ZU0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 12:37:57 +0800 Franki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are using 8.1 instead of earlier versions, then MandrakeUpdate should automatically install the kernel instead of upgrading it, (which hoses the old kernel meaning you can't boot if you have a problem) You are a little off. In 8.1 and earlier MandrakeUpdate Will Update the kernel Not Install it. This is why the old kernel then no longer exists. When the new kernel is Installed then both kernels will exist. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
huh??? ok, maybe its because I have the cooker rpmdrake and MandrakeUpdate that mine looks for kernel stuff and installs it instead of upgrading it.. in that case... MANDRAKE 8.2 UPDATE WILL NOT UPGRADE YOUR NEW KERNEL,, IT WILL INSTEAD INSTALL IT SEPERATLY SO YOU DON'T CLAG YOUR INSTALL. :-) rgds Frank -Original Message- From: Charles A Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2001 8:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 12:37:57 +0800 Franki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are using 8.1 instead of earlier versions, then MandrakeUpdate should automatically install the kernel instead of upgrading it, (which hoses the old kernel meaning you can't boot if you have a problem) You are a little off. In 8.1 and earlier MandrakeUpdate Will Update the kernel Not Install it. This is why the old kernel then no longer exists. When the new kernel is Installed then both kernels will exist. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
Hmm. I did this update some time ago via the package manager without problem. System has not been rebooted since...I don't think that a blanket DO NOT DO THIS is appropriate. Of course you must be very careful when doing something as drastic as updating your kernel. Just make sure you have a way out planned before-hand! -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Just a warning to those who like using the Mandrakes Package Manager. When your run the check for new security patches and you see the option to update your kernel. DON'T! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
this IS appropriate, and is the directions from Mandrake, as I recall On Monday 17 December 2001 13:11, you wrote: Hmm. I did this update some time ago via the package manager without problem. System has not been rebooted since...I don't think that a blanket DO NOT DO THIS is appropriate. Of course you must be very careful when doing something as drastic as updating your kernel. Just make sure you have a way out planned before-hand! -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Just a warning to those who like using the Mandrakes Package Manager. When your run the check for new security patches and you see the option to update your kernel. DON'T! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
Ah so you haven't rebooted eh. Go ahead, and reboot then come back to the list with your findings. I did the package install and it was fine for a few hours, after i did the reboot, then it took the new kernel and thats when the problems started. From: Johnson, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:11:46 -0500 Hmm. I did this update some time ago via the package manager without problem. System has not been rebooted since...I don't think that a blanket DO NOT DO THIS is appropriate. Of course you must be very careful when doing something as drastic as updating your kernel. Just make sure you have a way out planned before-hand! -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Just a warning to those who like using the Mandrakes Package Manager. When your run the check for new security patches and you see the option to update your kernel. DON'T! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
?? Mandrake says it's ok to install the kernal via packagemanager? I did some searching on the net and found alot of others who had the same problem as I did with the update via PM. From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:30:45 -0500 this IS appropriate, and is the directions from Mandrake, as I recall On Monday 17 December 2001 13:11, you wrote: Hmm. I did this update some time ago via the package manager without problem. System has not been rebooted since...I don't think that a blanket DO NOT DO THIS is appropriate. Of course you must be very careful when doing something as drastic as updating your kernel. Just make sure you have a way out planned before-hand! -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Just a warning to those who like using the Mandrakes Package Manager. When your run the check for new security patches and you see the option to update your kernel. DON'T! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
actually i believe he is saying that mandrake also recommends not doing the kernal by package. i seem to recall a statement from mandrake about that, though it may have been reguarding only a certain kernal. On Monday 17 December 2001 10:53, you spoke unto me thusly: ?? Mandrake says it's ok to install the kernal via packagemanager? I did some searching on the net and found alot of others who had the same problem as I did with the update via PM. From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:30:45 -0500 this IS appropriate, and is the directions from Mandrake, as I recall -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy. Give Linux to a friend today. shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
That's the beauty of Linux. I shouldn't HAVE to reboot...right? :-) Fortunately, it's only a machine for me to learn the OS on, so I don't have a problem wiping and re-installing... -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Ah so you haven't rebooted eh. Go ahead, and reboot then come back to the list with your findings. I did the package install and it was fine for a few hours, after i did the reboot, then it took the new kernel and thats when the problems started. From: Johnson, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:11:46 -0500 Hmm. I did this update some time ago via the package manager without problem. System has not been rebooted since...I don't think that a blanket DO NOT DO THIS is appropriate. Of course you must be very careful when doing something as drastic as updating your kernel. Just make sure you have a way out planned before-hand! -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Just a warning to those who like using the Mandrakes Package Manager. When your run the check for new security patches and you see the option to update your kernel. DON'T! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
well, if you don't reboot, you are still reading the kernel you booted with, so you have not yet experianced the problems you will have when ever you do reboot On Monday 17 December 2001 13:56, you wrote: That's the beauty of Linux. I shouldn't HAVE to reboot...right? :-) Fortunately, it's only a machine for me to learn the OS on, so I don't have a problem wiping and re-installing... -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Ah so you haven't rebooted eh. Go ahead, and reboot then come back to the list with your findings. I did the package install and it was fine for a few hours, after i did the reboot, then it took the new kernel and thats when the problems started. From: Johnson, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:11:46 -0500 Hmm. I did this update some time ago via the package manager without problem. System has not been rebooted since...I don't think that a blanket DO NOT DO THIS is appropriate. Of course you must be very careful when doing something as drastic as updating your kernel. Just make sure you have a way out planned before-hand! -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Just a warning to those who like using the Mandrakes Package Manager. When your run the check for new security patches and you see the option to update your kernel. DON'T! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
NO Mandrake says do NOT upgrade the kernal VIA packagemanger On Monday 17 December 2001 13:53, you wrote: ?? Mandrake says it's ok to install the kernal via packagemanager? I did some searching on the net and found alot of others who had the same problem as I did with the update via PM. From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:30:45 -0500 this IS appropriate, and is the directions from Mandrake, as I recall On Monday 17 December 2001 13:11, you wrote: Hmm. I did this update some time ago via the package manager without problem. System has not been rebooted since...I don't think that a blanket DO NOT DO THIS is appropriate. Of course you must be very careful when doing something as drastic as updating your kernel. Just make sure you have a way out planned before-hand! -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Just a warning to those who like using the Mandrakes Package Manager. When your run the check for new security patches and you see the option to update your kernel. DON'T! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
Oh ok. I thought thats what he was saying From: shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:07:04 -0800 actually i believe he is saying that mandrake also recommends not doing the kernal by package. i seem to recall a statement from mandrake about that, though it may have been reguarding only a certain kernal. On Monday 17 December 2001 10:53, you spoke unto me thusly: ?? Mandrake says it's ok to install the kernal via packagemanager? I did some searching on the net and found alot of others who had the same problem as I did with the update via PM. From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:30:45 -0500 this IS appropriate, and is the directions from Mandrake, as I recall -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy. Give Linux to a friend today. shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
With the kernel you have to reboot for it to take effect. Try this at the command line type in : uname -a You'll see the current kernel that your using. Before you do reboot. Make sure you have a bootdisk and you have read the steps I had to take. Because once you reboot, your not going anywhere until you install the kernel the correct way. From: Johnson, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:56:03 -0500 That's the beauty of Linux. I shouldn't HAVE to reboot...right? :-) Fortunately, it's only a machine for me to learn the OS on, so I don't have a problem wiping and re-installing... -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Ah so you haven't rebooted eh. Go ahead, and reboot then come back to the list with your findings. I did the package install and it was fine for a few hours, after i did the reboot, then it took the new kernel and thats when the problems started. From: Johnson, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:11:46 -0500 Hmm. I did this update some time ago via the package manager without problem. System has not been rebooted since...I don't think that a blanket DO NOT DO THIS is appropriate. Of course you must be very careful when doing something as drastic as updating your kernel. Just make sure you have a way out planned before-hand! -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Just a warning to those who like using the Mandrakes Package Manager. When your run the check for new security patches and you see the option to update your kernel. DON'T! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
Ok, that makes more sense. From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:11:09 -0500 NO Mandrake says do NOT upgrade the kernal VIA packagemanger On Monday 17 December 2001 13:53, you wrote: ?? Mandrake says it's ok to install the kernal via packagemanager? I did some searching on the net and found alot of others who had the same problem as I did with the update via PM. From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:30:45 -0500 this IS appropriate, and is the directions from Mandrake, as I recall On Monday 17 December 2001 13:11, you wrote: Hmm. I did this update some time ago via the package manager without problem. System has not been rebooted since...I don't think that a blanket DO NOT DO THIS is appropriate. Of course you must be very careful when doing something as drastic as updating your kernel. Just make sure you have a way out planned before-hand! -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Just a warning to those who like using the Mandrakes Package Manager. When your run the check for new security patches and you see the option to update your kernel. DON'T! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
Title: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake I recall something like that and did it anyway to see what would happen. My logic being that if this was a dangerous thing to do why would it be set up to show up on the Mandrake update. Anyway, I have rebooted both machines since then and have had no problems show up. This is what fascinates me about linux and the online download process, what works for one may not work for another but there are always alternatives. Dennis M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Tharp Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake NO Mandrake says do NOT upgrade the kernal VIA packagemanger On Monday 17 December 2001 13:53, you wrote: ?? Mandrake says it's ok to install the kernal via packagemanager? I did some searching on the net and found alot of others who had the same problem as I did with the update via PM. From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:30:45 -0500 this IS appropriate, and is the directions from Mandrake, as I recall On Monday 17 December 2001 13:11, you wrote: Hmm. I did this update some time ago via the package manager without problem. System has not been rebooted since...I don't think that a blanket DO NOT DO THIS is appropriate. Of course you must be very careful when doing something as drastic as updating your kernel. Just make sure you have a way out planned before-hand! -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Just a warning to those who like using the Mandrakes Package Manager. When your run the check for new security patches and you see the option to update your kernel. DON'T! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
Or the lovely thing about Linux. It was all a fluke! :) Funny, I had the problem and before I could tell one of my work buddies we was calling me on Sunday morning with the same problem. I was up until about 4am just trying to get my system back up and running without having to reinstall the whole lot. From: Myers, Dennis R NWO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:20:05 -0800 I recall something like that and did it anyway to see what would happen. My logic being that if this was a dangerous thing to do why would it be set up to show up on the Mandrake update. Anyway, I have rebooted both machines since then and have had no problems show up. This is what fascinates me about linux and the online download process, what works for one may not work for another but there are always alternatives. Dennis M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Tharp Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake NO Mandrake says do NOT upgrade the kernal VIA packagemanger On Monday 17 December 2001 13:53, you wrote: ?? Mandrake says it's ok to install the kernal via packagemanager? I did some searching on the net and found alot of others who had the same problem as I did with the update via PM. From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:30:45 -0500 this IS appropriate, and is the directions from Mandrake, as I recall On Monday 17 December 2001 13:11, you wrote: Hmm. I did this update some time ago via the package manager without problem. System has not been rebooted since...I don't think that a blanket DO NOT DO THIS is appropriate. Of course you must be very careful when doing something as drastic as updating your kernel. Just make sure you have a way out planned before-hand! -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Just a warning to those who like using the Mandrakes Package Manager. When your run the check for new security patches and you see the option to update your kernel. DON'T! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 05:11, you wrote: Hmm. I did this update some time ago via the package manager without problem. System has not been rebooted since...I don't think that a blanket DO NOT DO THIS is appropriate. Of course you must be very careful when doing something as drastic as updating your kernel. Just make sure you have a way out planned before-hand! Umm...if you select the Kernel in Mandrake Update and read the comments...it actually says Don't use Mandrake Update to do this (or words to that effect) in short Updating kernel automatically bad Installing Kernel side-by-side with existing kernel, then checking lilo initrd before rebooting good -- Andrew George --- It's a brave man who, when things are at their darkest, can kick back and party! -- Dennis Quaid, Inner Space Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
For future reference, urpmi is a safe way to update your kernel. su to root and enter urpmi kernel. Its the CLI end to the Software Manager so if you want newer kernels put the cooker ftp's in your sources. - Fate protects fools, little children, and ships named Enterprise. - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
On Monday 17 December 2001 11:16, you spoke unto me thusly: well, if you don't reboot, you are still reading the kernel you booted with, so you have not yet experianced the problems you will have when ever you do reboot ...and still have a chance to fix the problem before it _is_ a problem. :) -- 'Windows for Dummies' is much more than a book title, it's a Microsoft way of life! shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
True, very true From: shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:15:30 -0800 On Monday 17 December 2001 11:16, you spoke unto me thusly: well, if you don't reboot, you are still reading the kernel you booted with, so you have not yet experianced the problems you will have when ever you do reboot ...and still have a chance to fix the problem before it _is_ a problem. :) -- 'Windows for Dummies' is much more than a book title, it's a Microsoft way of life! shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake
If you are using 8.1 instead of earlier versions, then MandrakeUpdate should automatically install the kernel instead of upgrading it, (which hoses the old kernel meaning you can't boot if you have a problem) in /etc/urpmi there is a file called inst.list in that is a list of partial package names that will be installed instead of upgraded. they are: kernel kernel-source kernel-smp kernel-secure kernel-enterprise kernel-linus2.2 kernel-linux2.4 kernel22 kernel22-secure kernel22-smp hackkernel In theory, any package that you find in MandrakeUpdate that starts with any of those, they will be installed instead of upgrading, so if there are problems, your old kernel should still be there to bail you out. There appears to be a skip list as well, but that is empty by default. Does anyone know how to autogenerate all the files in /etc/urpmi and /var/lib/urpmi? except for the above mentioned files, mine are all empty, I hosed them when upgrading to the cooker version of rpm, rpmdrake and such, the apps still work, but there are no sources listed, (I installed from a powerpack 8.1) I have these versions.: rpm -qa |grep rpm rpm-build-4.0.3-0.34mdk urpmi-3.1-2mdk grpmi-8.1-7mdk rpmdrake-1.4-4mdk rpm-4.0.3-0.34mdk rpmtools-4.0-1mdk rpmlint-0.35-1mdk rpm-devel-4.0.3-0.34mdk rpm-python-4.0.3-0.34mdk All their depencencies were filled, and all appears to be working, except that there is nothing in /etc/urpmi except the inst.list and skip.list and nothing in /var/lib/urpmi except compssUsers.flat, which is either a list of installed packages, or available packages, I don't know which, I just want to get rpmdrake and MandrakeUpdate working, they are the last things I have to fix before I consider this install perfect and move it over to all the servers... At the moment I am installing all updates manually, and its a pain in the ASSk no questions. :-) rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Tharp Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2001 2:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake this IS appropriate, and is the directions from Mandrake, as I recall On Monday 17 December 2001 13:11, you wrote: Hmm. I did this update some time ago via the package manager without problem. System has not been rebooted since...I don't think that a blanket DO NOT DO THIS is appropriate. Of course you must be very careful when doing something as drastic as updating your kernel. Just make sure you have a way out planned before-hand! -Original Message- From: David .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Warning for newbies, learn from my mistake Just a warning to those who like using the Mandrakes Package Manager. When your run the check for new security patches and you see the option to update your kernel. DON'T! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] WARNING: Forget KDE 2.1.1 from Texstar!
Dear friends: My deep apologies. I assumed that the KDE 2.1.1 files (and the Mozilla 0.8.1 files) at Texstar (http://texstar.dyn.dhs.org), which claims be an exclusively LM72 rpm site, would have produced rpms that work with LM72's rpm version 3.0 and that they would also supply rpms for all dependencies. That's why I didn't even bother to test their KDE 2.1.1 before making my announcement. Furthermore, while their Mozilla 0.8 (based on the Feb. 17, 2001 version) installs and works perfectly (except for Mozilla's fonts bug in Preferences), their Mozilla 0.8.1 installs with two major error messages, neither of which I understand: 1) runtime mismatch 2) leaking context I've therefore aborted installation of both KDE 2.1.1 and Mozilla 0.8.1. Perhaps Texstar is not aware of the rpm incompatibility issue (LM72 uses rpm version 3, LM-8, i.e. Cooker, uses rpm version 4). My apologies again. Yours, Benjamin -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] WARNING: Forget KDE 2.1.1 from Texstar!
I just installed the KDE 2.1.1 rpms from texstar without a hitch on 7.2. Works fine here. Stan - Original Message - From: "Benjamin Sher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Newbie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 3:28 PM Subject: [newbie] WARNING: Forget KDE 2.1.1 from Texstar! Dear friends: My deep apologies. I assumed that the KDE 2.1.1 files (and the Mozilla 0.8.1 files) at Texstar (http://texstar.dyn.dhs.org), which claims be an exclusively LM72 rpm site, would have produced rpms that work with LM72's rpm version 3.0 and that they would also supply rpms for all dependencies. That's why I didn't even bother to test their KDE 2.1.1 before making my announcement. Furthermore, while their Mozilla 0.8 (based on the Feb. 17, 2001 version) installs and works perfectly (except for Mozilla's fonts bug in Preferences), their Mozilla 0.8.1 installs with two major error messages, neither of which I understand: 1) runtime mismatch 2) leaking context I've therefore aborted installation of both KDE 2.1.1 and Mozilla 0.8.1. Perhaps Texstar is not aware of the rpm incompatibility issue (LM72 uses rpm version 3, LM-8, i.e. Cooker, uses rpm version 4). My apologies again. Yours, Benjamin -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] WARNING: Forget KDE 2.1.1 from Texstar!
Dear Stan: Could you please send us a copy of your TexStar KDE 2.1.1 directory of rpms and a second directory of DEP (any dependencies which you had to install prior to installing KDE 2.1.1? This would be a great help, indeed. Thank you so much. Benjamin On Sunday 08 April 2001 01:04, you wrote: I just installed the KDE 2.1.1 rpms from texstar without a hitch on 7.2. Works fine here. Stan - Original Message - From: "Benjamin Sher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Newbie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 3:28 PM Subject: [newbie] WARNING: Forget KDE 2.1.1 from Texstar! -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: [newbie] WARNING: Forget KDE 2.1.1 from Texstar!
- Original Message -
From: "Benjamin Sher" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Stan Finley" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] WARNING: Forget KDE 2.1.1 from Texstar!
Dear Stan:
Thanks so very much. I will try again. May I ask if you could send this
message to the Newbie list. I think it will be of help to many others.
Thanks so much again.
Benjamin
On Sunday 08 April 2001 02:19, you wrote:
Hello Benjamin - I used the link below to download all of the rpms
(except
those obviously out of country). It was suggested by the texstar site
that
two other files were needed, ie, freetype2-2.0.2-1mdk.i586.rpm and
freetype2-devel-2.0.2-1mdk.i586.rpm, which I got from a link on the
texstar
site. I installed the two freetype files first and then started in on
the
kde rpms from the link below. The unsatisfied dependencies were very
few,
and were taken care of with the rpms that I downloaded. I found that if
unsatisfied dependencies could be fixed with the downloaded rpms,
a --nodeps
worked fine when required.
ftp.du.sp/disk1/mirrors/kde/stable/2.1.1/distribution/rpm/Mandrake/7.2/RPMS
That's about all I did. Took about 30 minutes to do it. I even did
most of
the work while in KDE using the package manager. Good luck with your
install.
Stan
- Original Message -
From: "Benjamin Sher" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Stan Finley" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] WARNING: Forget KDE 2.1.1 from Texstar!
Dear Stan:
Could you please send us a copy of your TexStar KDE 2.1.1 directory of
rpms
and a second directory of DEP (any dependencies which you had to
install
prior to installing KDE 2.1.1? This would be a great help, indeed.
Thank you so much.
Benjamin
On Sunday 08 April 2001 01:04, you wrote:
I just installed the KDE 2.1.1 rpms from texstar without a hitch on
7.2.
Works fine here.
Stan
- Original Message -
From: "Benjamin Sher" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Newbie" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 3:28 PM
Subject: [newbie] WARNING: Forget KDE 2.1.1 from Texstar!
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[newbie] warning no access to tty
Hello, After failing to be able to login as I describe below from my previous message, I was able to login using csh instead of sh but I received the following error message: warning no access to tty (inappropriate ioctl for device) thus no job control in this shell I want to fix it so I can return to using bash and get rid of this error. Any help would be appreciated. Best Regards, Timothy Old Message: I cannot login anymore. I just upgraded a few packages. In particular I upgraded initscripts to something like 5.27-20mdk. and a few others that shouldn't effect anything (ie., rpm 3.0.5 rpm-devel, rpm-python). When I rebooted I found that after typing my name and password I was returned to the login prompt after being acknowledged as logging in. I entered the system through 'I' interactive bootup and couldn't find any problems. I created a new user but to the same effect. The log records PAM_pwd[556]:(login) session opened for user my_name by LOGIN (uid=0) immediately followed by PAM_pwdb[556]:(login) session closed for user my_name I receive essentially the same result through gui logins. I received a comment that it has something to do with /etc/profile.d My system is Mandrake 7.1 on a Shuttle MVP3 motherboard, 196megs ram The packages I have installed recently include initscripts 5.27-20-mdk fileutils-4.0-13mdk rusers-0.17-2mdk procps-2.0.7-6mdk man-pages-1.31-1mdk ipchains-1.3.9-8mdk cpio-2.4.2-18mdk dev86-0.15.0-3mdk devfsd-1.3.10-3mdk firestarter-0.4.1-1mdk running firestarter after install caused a core dump. Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Timothy please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Warning: Mandrake changed DOS extended partition to Linux - how to fix
This email is a warning and solution that I hope will help someone out
there. Also included (of course) is my fix!
Symptom: After installing Linux Mandrake 7.1, Windows can't read any FAT
drives in the extended partition.
Further description: Computer that I was installing on had a 13G drive
partitioned as follows:
Primary DOS partition: 2 G for Windows.
DOS Extended partition: the rest.
Within that extended partition: 5 G FAT32 data partition for Windows.
The rest I left for Linux partitions.
After installing Mandrake I discovered that Windows could not read
FAT32 partition - seeing as all the programs and data and many
important things for the last six months were installed on the 5G FAT32 I
started to sweat. Especially since I knew very little about partitions
and the like. Windows FDISK saw the entire extended partition as
"NON-DOS" and refused to read it. Mandrake, installed on a
couple partitions at the end of the extended partition, still worked quite
happily. I was worried that Mandrake had somehow tried to resize the
5G DOS partition and messed it up, or killed it altogether (which
would have been a Bad Thing). After
educating myself extremely hurriedly on these topics, I discovered
what the problem was: Mandrake had changed the type of the DOS Extended
partition (that occupied the rest of the disk) from "Extended" to "Linux
Extended" (as seen by fdisk) at some point during the install. Of course
without telling me about it.
This problem was reproduceable as after fixing it the first time I had to
reinstall Mandrake (for various other complicated reasons) and it did
exactly the same thing again.
The fix:
Note: if you know nothing about partitions don't mess
around with fdisk !! Do as I did and forgo a night's sleep and learn all
you can on the web, docs, etc about what is going on _before_ looking at
fdisk. Then A) the problem, whether or not it is exactly the same as
here, will be much easier to solve, and B) you will have gained some
valuable knowledge, like I did :) I intend this email to be a
guide/confirmation/help in pointing out what's wrong; don't leap to do
this if you're not sure that you are having exactly the same problem.
- boot into Mandrake, or use a rescue disk (which is actually
what I was using as I had rewritten my Master Boot Record from windows
early in the diagnostic process, thinking that was part of the problem,
and thus I couldn't boot Linux anymore).
- Be Root
- run "fdisk /dev/hdX" where X is probably "a" (it was for me) if the
problem is on your first fixed disk.
- VERIFY that this is indeed your problem: type "p"; if your partition
table looks something like this (concoted) example it probably is:
Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System
/dev/hda1 * 1 243 whatever 6 FAT16
/dev/hda2 244 523 whatever 85 Linux Extended
/dev/hda5 244 399 whatever 6 FAT32
/dev/hda6 400 506 whatever 83 Linux
/dev/hda7 507 523 whatever 82 Linux swap
note how the Linux extended partition takes up the rest of the disk and
the FAT32 partition is contained within it.
- note the number (ie "hda2", "hda3", as you can see in the example it's
2) of the "Linux Extended" partition - it very likely takes up all
the space that isn't used by the first, primary, partition; and most all
other partitions are within it.
- hit ("t") to change the partition type. First you type the number, then
the new type. List all of the types and pick the one called
"Extended" (type 5 if I recall).
- write the table to disk
- reboot into Windows, all should be well
If this doesn't fix it or your problem doesn't sound quite the same don't
mess around with fdisk unless you know what you're doing. Or you might be
using some tools like "gpart" to recover your partitions from scratch :)
If you have the same problem as this and this works then I feel I will
have done my duty in life :)
Mark
--
"Science is like sex: sometimes something useful comes out, but that is
not the reason we are doing it" -- Richard Feynman
Re: [newbie] Warning: Mandrake changed DOS extended partition toLinux - how to fix
"M. R. N. Weston" wrote:
This email is a warning and solution that I hope will help someone out
there. Also included (of course) is my fix!
Symptom: After installing Linux Mandrake 7.1, Windows can't read any FAT
drives in the extended partition.
Further description: Computer that I was installing on had a 13G drive
partitioned as follows:
Primary DOS partition: 2 G for Windows.
DOS Extended partition: the rest.
Within that extended partition: 5 G FAT32 data partition for Windows.
The rest I left for Linux partitions.
After installing Mandrake I discovered that Windows could not read
FAT32 partition - seeing as all the programs and data and many
important things for the last six months were installed on the 5G FAT32 I
started to sweat. Especially since I knew very little about partitions
and the like. Windows FDISK saw the entire extended partition as
"NON-DOS" and refused to read it. Mandrake, installed on a
couple partitions at the end of the extended partition, still worked quite
happily. I was worried that Mandrake had somehow tried to resize the
5G DOS partition and messed it up, or killed it altogether (which
would have been a Bad Thing). After
educating myself extremely hurriedly on these topics, I discovered
what the problem was: Mandrake had changed the type of the DOS Extended
partition (that occupied the rest of the disk) from "Extended" to "Linux
Extended" (as seen by fdisk) at some point during the install. Of course
without telling me about it.
This problem was reproduceable as after fixing it the first time I had to
reinstall Mandrake (for various other complicated reasons) and it did
exactly the same thing again.
The fix:
Note: if you know nothing about partitions don't mess
around with fdisk !! Do as I did and forgo a night's sleep and learn all
you can on the web, docs, etc about what is going on _before_ looking at
fdisk. Then A) the problem, whether or not it is exactly the same as
here, will be much easier to solve, and B) you will have gained some
valuable knowledge, like I did :) I intend this email to be a
guide/confirmation/help in pointing out what's wrong; don't leap to do
this if you're not sure that you are having exactly the same problem.
- boot into Mandrake, or use a rescue disk (which is actually
what I was using as I had rewritten my Master Boot Record from windows
early in the diagnostic process, thinking that was part of the problem,
and thus I couldn't boot Linux anymore).
- Be Root
- run "fdisk /dev/hdX" where X is probably "a" (it was for me) if the
problem is on your first fixed disk.
- VERIFY that this is indeed your problem: type "p"; if your partition
table looks something like this (concoted) example it probably is:
Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System
/dev/hda1 * 1 243 whatever 6 FAT16
/dev/hda2 244 523 whatever 85 Linux Extended
/dev/hda5 244 399 whatever 6 FAT32
/dev/hda6 400 506 whatever 83 Linux
/dev/hda7 507 523 whatever 82 Linux swap
note how the Linux extended partition takes up the rest of the disk and
the FAT32 partition is contained within it.
- note the number (ie "hda2", "hda3", as you can see in the example it's
2) of the "Linux Extended" partition - it very likely takes up all
the space that isn't used by the first, primary, partition; and most all
other partitions are within it.
- hit ("t") to change the partition type. First you type the number, then
the new type. List all of the types and pick the one called
"Extended" (type 5 if I recall).
- write the table to disk
- reboot into Windows, all should be well
If this doesn't fix it or your problem doesn't sound quite the same don't
mess around with fdisk unless you know what you're doing. Or you might be
using some tools like "gpart" to recover your partitions from scratch :)
If you have the same problem as this and this works then I feel I will
have done my duty in life :)
Mark
--
"Science is like sex: sometimes something useful comes out, but that is
not the reason we are doing it" -- Richard Feynman
Here's an even BETTER solution. Don't install Linux on anything other
than it own partition. That includes Extended DOS partitions. If you
have to use Partition magic to resize your DOS primary partition and
create another primary parition which is where your Linux installation
will go.
I don't mean to sound accusitory or demeaning to you Mark, but it wasn't
Mandrake that messed up it was the guy telling diskdruid what to do and
where to do it with the installation. :)
I know cause I learned partitioning the hard way. Just like you're doing
it.
--
Mark
I love my Linux box...
REASON #1 -- ...it isn't Windows!
Registered Linux user #1299563
RE: [newbie] Warning: Mandrake changed DOS extended partition to Linux - how to fix
-Original Message- From: M. R. N. Weston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 June 2000 18:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Warning: Mandrake changed DOS extended partition to Linux - how to fix *de'snipity* If you have the same problem as this and this works then I feel I will have done my duty in life :) Secondly, and more vitally importantly than that, before you do *anything* with partition tables (Even with a "safe" program like partition magic) B A C K U P A L L D A T A F I R S T ! ! ! I can't stress this enough. Even with a professional (and non-destructive) program like PM *things go wrong* I lost my entire windows partition when resizing it, luckily I had, on a whim, copied all my data to my secondary HDD, and put everything on a zip disk, but I still lost all my E-Mails for 18 months and a few Websdesigns. -- Nick
Re: [newbie] Warning: Mandrake changed DOS extended partition toLinux - how to fix
Here's an even BETTER solution. Don't install Linux on anything other than it own partition. That includes Extended DOS partitions. If you have to use Partition magic to resize your DOS primary partition and create another primary parition which is where your Linux installation will go. I don't mean to sound accusitory or demeaning to you Mark, but it wasn't Mandrake that messed up it was the guy telling diskdruid what to do and where to do it with the installation. :) No offense taken (well not much anyway :) ... but the thing that annoys me is that it was totally unnecessary for it to change the extended partition type! Once I changed it back, Mandrake and Windows both worked fine. So what is the purpose of doing it? Especially not letting me know about it? I was doing this on someone else's computer and didn't want to mess too much with the partitions, etc, as I didn't look at the partition table before running the install - I figured "I'll just use the extra 5 GB partition that Winbloze isn't using. No problem, right?" Wrong... Also, I may be a moron but I didn't see any obvious way in DiskDruid in the installation how to shrink the DOS extended partition and create a new primary one for Linux. As far as I could tell the extended partition was transparent to DiskDruid... is it the case that DiskDruid can't do what it wants in the extended partition withOUT changing the partition type? Seems strange to me... if this was the case I would think many other people would have seen the same problem. I know cause I learned partitioning the hard way. Just like you're doing it. And it's amazing how much you learn in such a short time :) -- Mark cheers, Mark
[newbie] Warning for goldstar cdroms.
I just wanted to warn every for the goldstar 8X cdrom (580b) I just installed linux mandrake but havent been able to do so because my atapi goldstar cdrom somehow just died in the install process. When i tried the text install i switched screen i got the error message from the installer: "Lost irc" or something similar. fix? change cdrom :) Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
[newbie] WARNING! That bloody AVG anti virus program
G'day all, You might recall (after the shambles with active-X) that someone recommended AVG Anti-virus for Windoze. It was highly regarded by ZDNet, but upon downloading and installing it on my windoze box, I was not impressed. No dramas, just uninstall it if you're not happy, right? Wrong, upon uninstalling it and (of course) having to restart the machine, i found that ALL files in my 'Program files' folder (not the folders, just all the files) had dissapeared. I can only presume that this was caused by a VERY buggy uninstall routine. None of my other drives on the machine were effected, only the 'E' drive, to which I'd installed this dog. I've sent a similiar email to the authors, but thought I'd just warn any Win32 users of the "potential" for disaster. I was very lucky in that i dont store any data files under program files. Anyway, thats my bitch for the day. Cam - Original Message - From: Sevatio Octavio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Any Windows Media Player for Linux? I know it exists. I had it once but lost the file since it didn't work %100 for me. I think a couple of years ago M$ had the Windows Media Player available for download from its website and has since removed the page. ...Probably because at the time Linux was insignificant in their eyes. So, someone out there should still have it. Meanwhile, I'll search my email archives. Seve -Original Message- From: Michael A. Kellogg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, April 30, 2000 8:28 PM Subject: [newbie] Any Windows Media Player for Linux? Hi Foiks! Just surfing around the Net and was trying to listen to a local radio station but it only has Windows Media Player format. Does anyone know what program (if any) might be out there that could work with Mandrake 7.0? Thanks! Mike
[newbie] WARNING: this message is NOT for the weak of heart...
*** CREATIVE CD-ROM drive data *** hdd: CREATIVE CD2423E, ATAPI CDROM drive hdd: ATAPI 20X CD-ROM drive, 382kB Cache Is there any way to get Linux to utilize the drive's "24X speed"? *** QUANTUM harddrive data *** hdh: QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM3200A, ATA DISK drive hdh: QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM3200A, 3067MB w/76kB Cache, CHS=6232/16/63 *** CREATIVE soundcard IDE port data *** ide3 at 0x168-0x16f,0x36e on irq 10 *** Partition check *** (ATA DISK drives) hda: hda1 hda2 hda5 hda6 # WDC AC14300R - (Win98) hdb: hdb1 hdb2 hdb5 hdb6 # Maxtor 82560A4 - (Linux) hdh: [PTBL] [779/128/63] hdh1 # QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM3200A - (Games) What does "[PTBL] [779/128/63] hdh1" signify? Using LinuxConf, I can actually MOUNT this drive, but the "size" does not appear as it does with the other harddrives. Now using KDE Control Center/Information, the drive shows up in read, and no information is listed until I click (highlight) it, then the correct information shows up, but it remains red. I hazard to ask, "Is this normal?" So I shall simply ask... Is this okay? I can see the drive's contents fine once I mount it using LinuxConf (Isn't there a way to mount it at bootup like the other drives?) Also, I have read a piece of script(?) that will have Linux turn my [NumLock] on at bootup, but I didn't understand the reference where to put it. And lastly, I have both a USR Winmodem (33.6kbs) *AND* a USR Modem Blaster (14.4kbs) installed in two ISA slots. I installed the 14.4bps because I haven't found how to *hack* the Winmodem to work with Linux...although I read a vague reference to having to utilize the WinDoze drivers for the modem under Linux... I certainly wish someone would have elaborated on that one. ;-) But, that aside, I have re-installed the 14.4bps and can get a terminal program to recognize it under MS-DOS (but not from within WinDoze 9x). The 33.6bps is operating just fine under WinDoze (as this messages is proof) with the other modem installed. However, although I have set the jumpers for COM:3-IRQ:4 and WinDoze now has a COM:3 listed in Control Panel-System-Device Manager, WinDoze will not recognize the actual modem (even installed it as the modem type/model instructed in the modem booklet). So my question is this, how do I get this beast set up in Linux? The HOWTO-Serial/Modem instructions are *universal* at best. I am looking for a step-by- step, tailored to my configuration set of instructions. However, I am willing to just check out some more examples of commands/codes that I can tinker with til I figure it out. And one last (maybe) thing. ;-) Once my Linux crashed (all it that happened was that xServer would not let me back in due to a font error which turned out simple to fix, but learned that after two re-installs), I had looked high and low for how to manufacture a BOOTDISK. During install, I could not make one because the only floppy drive I have is a LS-120 SuperDisk and Linux-Mandrake v6.0 has a major shortcoming in not being able to understand that possibility. Same happened with the CD-ROM when I had it hooked up to my soundcard's IDE port. I installed Linux-Mandrake with this setup, but once that was done, it failed to find the CD-ROM drive. ;-/ Anyway, back to the BOOTDISK. The references for this specified "zImage" and "bzImage" which I could not locate anywhere. I proceeded to download the "BOOT"-image from a Linux-Mandrake FTP mirror but failed to be able to make a working BOOTDISK (using rawrite.exe) with this image. My friend has installed Linux-Mandrake a few times, so had the opportunity (and took it) to make a couple bootdisks and now I have one of those. Does anyone have a step-by-step instruction of how to create a standard, no frills bootdisk AFTER install? I had read a couple references to making bootFLOPPIES, each with a unique configuration to them. I wouldn't mind exploring this option, but mastering the standard bootdisk is my first goal. Okay, one more LAST thing. ;- I am interested in getting Blood and Blood 2 running until Linux. If anyone can point me in the right direction, that'd be great! And naturally, I have no clue about how to install/setup the MS-DOS-emulator, and "Wine" only loads Blood 2's "boot" window, with the picture missing. Is this because I need to install some openGL port? If so, exactly how do I go about that? Take Care
Re: [[newbie] WARNING: this message is NOT for the weak of heart...]
"PC" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *** CREATIVE CD-ROM drive data *** hdd: CREATIVE CD2423E, ATAPI CDROM drive hdd: ATAPI 20X CD-ROM drive, 382kB Cache Is there any way to get Linux to utilize the drive's "24X speed"? Is it a 24X _MAX_...if so that is a peak speed...the 20X is probably a sustained transfer *** QUANTUM harddrive data *** hdh: QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM3200A, ATA DISK drive hdh: QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM3200A, 3067MB w/76kB Cache, CHS=6232/16/63 *** CREATIVE soundcard IDE port data *** ide3 at 0x168-0x16f,0x36e on irq 10 *** Partition check *** (ATA DISK drives) hda: hda1 hda2 hda5 hda6 # WDC AC14300R - (Win98) hdb: hdb1 hdb2 hdb5 hdb6 # Maxtor 82560A4 - (Linux) hdh: [PTBL] [779/128/63] hdh1 # QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM3200A - (Games) What does "[PTBL] [779/128/63] hdh1" signify? Using LinuxConf, I can actually MOUNT this drive, but the "size" does not appear as it does with the other harddrives. Now using KDE Control Center/Information, the drive shows up in read, and no information is listed until I click (highlight) it, then the correct information shows up, but it remains red. I hazard to ask, "Is this normal?" So I shall simply ask... Is this okay? I can see the drive's contents fine once I mount it using LinuxConf (Isn't there a way to mount it at bootup like the other drives?) Also, I have read a piece of script(?) that will have Linux turn my [NumLock] on at bootup, but I didn't understand the reference where to put it. And lastly, I have both a USR Winmodem (33.6kbs) *AND* a USR Modem Blaster (14.4kbs) installed in two ISA slots. I installed the 14.4bps because I haven't found how to *hack* the Winmodem to work with Linux...although I read a vague reference to having to utilize the WinDoze drivers for the modem under Linux... I certainly wish someone would have elaborated on that one. ;-) But, that aside, I have re-installed the 14.4bps and can get a terminal program to recognize it under MS-DOS (but not from within WinDoze 9x). The 33.6bps is operating just fine under WinDoze (as this messages is proof) with the other modem installed. However, although I have set the jumpers for COM:3-IRQ:4 and WinDoze now has a COM:3 listed in Control Panel-System-Device Manager, WinDoze will not recognize the actual modem (even installed it as the modem type/model instructed in the modem booklet). So my question is this, how do I get this beast set up in Linux? The HOWTO-Serial/Modem instructions are *universal* at best. I am looking for a step-by- step, tailored to my configuration set of instructions. However, I am willing to just check out some more examples of commands/codes that I can tinker with til I figure it out. And one last (maybe) thing. ;-) Once my Linux crashed (all it that happened was that xServer would not let me back in due to a font error which turned out simple to fix, but learned that after two re-installs), I had looked high and low for how to manufacture a BOOTDISK. During install, I could not make one because the only floppy drive I have is a LS-120 SuperDisk and Linux-Mandrake v6.0 has a major shortcoming in not being able to understand that possibility. Same happened with the CD-ROM when I had it hooked up to my soundcard's IDE port. I installed Linux-Mandrake with this setup, but once that was done, it failed to find the CD-ROM drive. ;-/ Anyway, back to the BOOTDISK. The references for this specified "zImage" and "bzImage" which I could not locate anywhere. I proceeded to download the "BOOT"-image from a Linux-Mandrake FTP mirror but failed to be able to make a working BOOTDISK (using rawrite.exe) with this image. My friend has installed Linux-Mandrake a few times, so had the opportunity (and took it) to make a couple bootdisks and now I have one of those. Does anyone have a step-by-step instruction of how to create a standard, no frills bootdisk AFTER install? I had read a couple references to making bootFLOPPIES, each with a unique configuration to them. I wouldn't mind exploring this option, but mastering the standard bootdisk is my first goal. Okay, one more LAST thing. ;- I am interested in getting Blood and Blood 2 running until Linux. If anyone can point me in the right direction, that'd be great! And naturally, I have no clue about how to install/setup the MS-DOS-emulator, and "Wine" only loads Blood 2's "boot" window, with the picture missing. Is this because I need to install some openGL port? If so, exactly how do I go about that? Take Care Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] WARNING: this message is NOT for the weak of heart...
PC wrote: *** CREATIVE CD-ROM drive data *** hdd: CREATIVE CD2423E, ATAPI CDROM drive hdd: ATAPI 20X CD-ROM drive, 382kB Cache Is there any way to get Linux to utilize the drive's "24X speed"? More than likely, it's a variable speed drive. Don't feel bad, my 40x reports 14x. Either way, it still works as it should. *** QUANTUM harddrive data *** hdh: QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM3200A, ATA DISK drive hdh: QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM3200A, 3067MB w/76kB Cache, CHS=6232/16/63 *** CREATIVE soundcard IDE port data *** ide3 at 0x168-0x16f,0x36e on irq 10 *** Partition check *** (ATA DISK drives) hda: hda1 hda2 hda5 hda6 # WDC AC14300R - (Win98) hdb: hdb1 hdb2 hdb5 hdb6 # Maxtor 82560A4 - (Linux) hdh: [PTBL] [779/128/63] hdh1 # QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM3200A - (Games) What does "[PTBL] [779/128/63] hdh1" signify? Using LinuxConf, I can actually MOUNT this drive, but the "size" does not appear as it does with the other harddrives. Now using KDE Control Center/Information, the drive shows up in read, and no information is listed until I click (highlight) it, then the correct information shows up, but it remains red. I believe it means "Partition Table". I have a drive here that used to show like that. It never affected it's use, just the cosmetics at bootup. Also, I have read a piece of script(?) that will have Linux turn my [NumLock] on at bootup, but I didn't understand the reference where to put it. Probably /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit. And lastly, I have both a USR Winmodem (33.6kbs) *AND* a USR Modem Blaster (14.4kbs) installed in two ISA slots. I installed the 14.4bps because I haven't found how to *hack* the Winmodem to work with Linux...although I read a vague reference to having to utilize the WinDoze drivers for the modem under Linux... I certainly wish someone would have elaborated on that one. ;-) But, that aside, I have re-installed the 14.4bps and can get a terminal program to recognize it under MS-DOS (but not from within WinDoze 9x). The 33.6bps is operating just fine under WinDoze (as this messages is proof) with the other modem installed. However, although I have set the jumpers for COM:3-IRQ:4 and WinDoze now has a COM:3 listed in Control Panel-System-Device Manager, WinDoze will not recognize the actual modem (even installed it as the modem type/model instructed in the modem booklet). So my question is this, how do I get this beast set up in Linux? The HOWTO-Serial/Modem instructions are *universal* at best. I am looking for a step-by- step, tailored to my configuration set of instructions. However, I am willing to just check out some more examples of commands/codes that I can tinker with til I figure it out. Well, to give you step-by-step instructions would require that you give us a bit more information. COM port? IO port? Real interrupt? Those are the basics that we'll need. And one last (maybe) thing. ;-) Once my Linux crashed (all it that happened was that xServer would not let me back in due to a font error which turned out simple to fix, but learned that after two re-installs), I had looked high and low for how to manufacture a BOOTDISK. During install, I could not make one because the only floppy drive I have is a LS-120 SuperDisk and Linux-Mandrake v6.0 has a major shortcoming in not being able to understand that possibility. Same happened with the CD-ROM when I had it hooked up to my soundcard's IDE port. I installed Linux-Mandrake with this setup, but once that was done, it failed to find the CD-ROM drive. ;-/ There are some kernel options you need to pass at the LILO prompt in order for soundcard-based IDE ports to be recognized. You'll probably be able to find some information in /usr/src/linux/Documentation. Anyway, back to the BOOTDISK. The references for this specified "zImage" and "bzImage" which I could not locate anywhere. I proceeded to download the "BOOT"-image from a Linux-Mandrake FTP mirror but failed to be able to make a working BOOTDISK (using rawrite.exe) with this image. My friend has installed Linux-Mandrake a few times, so had the opportunity (and took it) to make a couple bootdisks and now I have one of those. Does anyone have a step-by-step instruction of how to create a standard, no frills bootdisk AFTER install? I had read a couple references to making bootFLOPPIES, each with a unique configuration to them. I wouldn't mind exploring this option, but mastering the standard bootdisk is my first goal. It doesn't get much easier than: mkbootdisk Okay, one more LAST thing. ;- I am interested in getting Blood and Blood 2 running until Linux. If anyone can point me in the right direction, that'd be great! And naturally, I have no clue about how to install/setup the MS-DOS-emulator, and "Wine" only loads Blood 2's "boot" window, with the picture missing. Is this because I need to install some openGL port? If so, exactly how do I go about that? Try the
