RE: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-03-05 Thread h k ball
Kaj ...

... haven't given up on 6.0 yet, kind of a challenge ... have it working in 
partiton in CLI (you taught me that terminology) on my desktop (Intel32, 
256mb ram, 700mH, 20 gb hd), now that I have 10.1 running in VMware on my 
new (AMD64, 500mb ram, 2.0mH, 60gb hd) laptop, with KDE running and Foxfire 
installed, my learning curve has accelaerated a bit, got more ideas for 
things to try on 6.0 to get KDE going ... mainly grinding through the 1000 
different possible configuration combinations using that old Xconfigurator 
...

... 10.1 bombed out on my desktop in the first 30 seconds of the boot-up 
install, didn't like my disk drive partitions (old machine, badly chopped 
up with 6-7 partitons, been re-partitioned alot) ..

... my new laptop refuses to be partitioned by either my Partition Magic, 
or by 10.1 when I tried to install it from bootup, that's why I had to go 
the VMware route (very sluggish, but totally functional) ..

... so, think I can go back and squeeze in a small Fat32 partition on my 
desktop, along the lines of your suggestion, but cannot for 10.1 on my 
laptop ..

.. one thought - I'm on the internet in Linux through my wireless local LAN 
network just fine, could Windows send stuff to Linux over that LAN network 
?

HK

-Original Message-
From:   Kaj Haulrich [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Friday, March 04, 2005 6:31 PM
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject:Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE  mode?

On Friday 04 March 2005 19:47, h k ball wrote:

snip
 (1) ... if I'm going to migrate to Linux from Windows I need to
 transfer alot of files, there's got to be a better way from what
 I'm doing, which is sending stuff to my webpage, then
 accessing/downloading them through Firefox ... any more direct
 way (haven't figured out how to communicate on my office LAN yet)
/snip

Welcome back, h k...

I didn't realize you were running 6.0, but it induces that nostalgic
feeling in me.

If, by any chance, you are dual-booting Linux and another OS, an
easy way to transfer files is to create an extra FAT32  partition
in the middle to share files.  Most OS's can read and write to
FAT32.

HTH

Kaj Haulrich.
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RE: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-03-05 Thread h k ball
Mikkel ...

 could only install 10.1(only paid 6 bucks, not too bad) on VM on my 
laptop (see my message just now to Kaj for the gory details) ... 1024X768 
working just fine without an nVidia card ...

... have been trying to figure out the smb4k alternative you suggested, 
read the manual, googled around, still no clue ...

... what is an example of a line of code I might try  ? (as root, I know 
that much)

HK

-Original Message-
From:   Mikkel L. Ellertson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Friday, March 04, 2005 2:32 PM
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject:Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE  mode?

h k ball wrote:
 ... Hi Kaj, Anne, Mikkel, Snap, et al ...

 ... I'm the newbie that showed up for the first time about 3 weeks ago, 
was
 overwhelmed with your responsiveness, but was way over my head, and felt
 guilty ... have a confession to make ...

 ... back in 1999 I bought Mandrake 6.0 ($35), tried putting it on the 
same
 machine with my Win2000, WinNT, etc, failed, gave up, put it on the 
shelf,
 forgot about it ...then, what with my wonderful experience with Firefox 
vs
 IE, etc etc, saw open sourcing in a whole new light, decided to try 
again,
 found your newbie list, and, trying harder this time, got it running in 
the
 command mode, and you all tought me a whole lot about moving around in 
that
 environment, really valuable stuff ...

 ... but I was flying under false colors ... you are all 10.1 folks, with
 10.1 problems and 10.1 solutions ... so I shut up, quit wasting your 
time,
 got on Ebay, bought 10.1 for $6.00 (thought, this is a dumb move) ... 
3-4
 days later a small envelop arrived with 4 disks, nothing else ... 
enlarged
 my Ext2, Swap partitions,etc ... total disaster, on two different 
machines
 bombed out immediately on install  (thought you got what you paid for) 
...

 ... had been hearing alot about VMware, how you don't need to partition,
 etc, lo and behold, VMware has a 5.0 in Beta testing until Apr 29 !!! ... 
 (I'm really really cheap) ...

 ... to make a 4 day story short, I have 10.1 running with a genaric VM
 video driver (nVidia card in my machine) at 1024x768, KDE up and running, 
 have installed my beloved Firefox, things are fantastic !!! ... so now
 maybe I can legitimately ask you guys some questions:

 (1) ... if I'm going to migrate to Linux from Windows I need to transfer
 alot of files, there's got to be a better way from what I'm doing, which 
is
 sending stuff to my webpage, then accessing/downloading them through
 Firefox ... any more direct way (haven't figured out how to communicate 
on
 my office LAN yet) ... ???

 (2) ... operations and webpage downloads are vey slw with one
 exception, downloaded Firefox (8.2 meg) in 30 seconds (DSL) ... I suspect 
 its the VMware's fault, but any tricks to speed things up ???

 ... again, I'm very appreciative and humbled  ...

 HK


I wish you would have told us you were running 6.0 - we could have
pointed you to where you could download the CD images for 10.1 for free,
or purchesed them fairly cheap. (You can download the first 3 CD's from
the Internet.)

Now, as far as transfering files between Windows and Linux, it depends
on how you are running Linux. If you are running it in a VMware window,
then you may want to create a share on the windows machine, and use
smb4k to map the share on Linux. You can alsu use the mount command from
the command line interface, but smb4k is probably going to work better
for you at this point.

If you are dual booting Windows and Linux on a machine, you can mount
the windows partition directly in Linux. In fact, the installer usualy
will set this up for you. Diskdrake will also do it for you. If you are
using the NT file system, then it will be mounted read only - you can
transfere files to Linux, but there are some problems writing to NT file
systems. (Has this changed?) There are no problems reading/writing FAT
file systems.

Depending on the nVidia card you have, 10.1 may work with it out of the
box, or you may have to install extra drivers. There have been a lot of
messages about this. I don't have personal experence with the cards that
require this.

As far as your install problems directly to the hardware, instead of
installing in VMware, we should be able to work around them. The bit
thing is to describe the hardware, and be willing to try a couple of
options during install. Most people don't need to do this, but some
hardware requires more effort then others... I usualy have less trouble
installing Linux then I do Windows, unless I have one of the restore CDs
for the machine that basicly restores a working image to the hard drive.

Mikkel
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Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-03-05 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Saturday 05 March 2005 18:55, h k ball wrote:
 Kaj ...

 ... haven't given up on 6.0 yet, kind of a challenge ... have it
 working in partiton in CLI (you taught me that terminology) on my
 desktop (Intel32, 256mb ram, 700mH, 20 gb hd), now that I have
 10.1 running in VMware on my new (AMD64, 500mb ram, 2.0mH, 60gb
 hd) laptop, with KDE running and Foxfire installed, my learning
 curve has accelaerated a bit, got more ideas for things to try on
 6.0 to get KDE going ... mainly grinding through the 1000
 different possible configuration combinations using that old
 Xconfigurator ...

 ... 10.1 bombed out on my desktop in the first 30 seconds of the
 boot-up install, didn't like my disk drive partitions (old
 machine, badly chopped up with 6-7 partitons, been re-partitioned
 alot) ..

 ... my new laptop refuses to be partitioned by either my
 Partition Magic, or by 10.1 when I tried to install it from
 bootup, that's why I had to go the VMware route (very sluggish,
 but totally functional) ..

 ... so, think I can go back and squeeze in a small Fat32
 partition on my desktop, along the lines of your suggestion, but
 cannot for 10.1 on my laptop ..

 .. one thought - I'm on the internet in Linux through my wireless
 local LAN network just fine, could Windows send stuff to Linux
 over that LAN network ?


h k, you can let Linux (10.1) read the Windows NT file system but 
not (safely) write to it.  If it's FAT32, no problems whatsoever.  
But Windows cannot write to Linux (I think it can't even see 
other filesystems than NT and FAT - but I'm not sure, have never 
used Windows).

Another solution : If you have the dough, by an external USB hard 
disk with at least one FAT32 partition.  Should be accessible from 
either OS.

Glad you got the other things sorted out.

Kaj Haulrich.
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Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-03-05 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
h k ball wrote:
Mikkel ...
 could only install 10.1(only paid 6 bucks, not too bad) on VM on my 
laptop (see my message just now to Kaj for the gory details) ... 1024X768 
working just fine without an nVidia card ...

... have been trying to figure out the smb4k alternative you suggested, 
read the manual, googled around, still no clue ...

... what is an example of a line of code I might try  ? (as root, I know 
that much)

HK
On your laptop, the first step is to enable file sharing in XP. Then you 
have to deside how much of your XP drive you want to share. You may want 
to create just one directory for moving files between the two systems. 
You may also have to make some adjustments on the firewall in XP to let 
Linux connect from inside VMware. I think this is still covered in the 
VMware documentation. In any case, it is the same as setting up XP to 
share a directory with other machines in the local network. It also 
helps if you use the same workgroup name in XT and smb4k. As a test, you 
should be able to see the directory you have set up from your desktop 
system when both it, and the laptop are on the same network. If the two 
machines running Windows can not share files, then Linux running in 
VMware is probably going to have problems as well.

A second way would be to configure Samba under Linux, and have it share 
out a directory. You would have to use XP to transfere files between 
this directory and the XP file system.

One quick way to set up a directory for sharing is to double-click on 
the hard drive icon on the desktop, navigate to the directory you would 
like to share. Right click on it, pick Properties, and then Local Net 
Shating. You will probably have to enter the root password, and enable 
this. It may also ask to install some packages. Let it.

Mikkel
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Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-03-05 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
h k ball wrote:
Kaj ...
... haven't given up on 6.0 yet, kind of a challenge ... have it working in 
partiton in CLI (you taught me that terminology) on my desktop (Intel32, 
256mb ram, 700mH, 20 gb hd), now that I have 10.1 running in VMware on my 
new (AMD64, 500mb ram, 2.0mH, 60gb hd) laptop, with KDE running and Foxfire 
installed, my learning curve has accelaerated a bit, got more ideas for 
things to try on 6.0 to get KDE going ... mainly grinding through the 1000 
different possible configuration combinations using that old Xconfigurator 
...

... 10.1 bombed out on my desktop in the first 30 seconds of the boot-up 
install, didn't like my disk drive partitions (old machine, badly chopped 
up with 6-7 partitons, been re-partitioned alot) ..

... my new laptop refuses to be partitioned by either my Partition Magic, 
or by 10.1 when I tried to install it from bootup, that's why I had to go 
the VMware route (very sluggish, but totally functional) ..

... so, think I can go back and squeeze in a small Fat32 partition on my 
desktop, along the lines of your suggestion, but cannot for 10.1 on my 
laptop ..

.. one thought - I'm on the internet in Linux through my wireless local LAN 
network just fine, could Windows send stuff to Linux over that LAN network 
?

HK
I can understand the installer having a problem with this drive. You 
might be able to do something in the expert mode, but you might also 
delete some of your data... I would be tempted to back things up, wipe 
the drive, and start over. Create one partition for Windows, and leave 
the rest for the installer to play with.

Another option would be to add a second drive for Linux. Let Windows 
keep the first drive, and have the installer install to the second hard 
drive.

Mikkel
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RE: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-03-05 Thread h k ball
Kaj ...

... if Linux can read Windows files, that's all I need, will give it a try ..

HK

-Original Message-
From:   Kaj Haulrich [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Saturday, March 05, 2005 2:08 PM
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject:Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE  mode?

On Saturday 05 March 2005 18:55, h k ball wrote:
 Kaj ...

 ... haven't given up on 6.0 yet, kind of a challenge ... have it
 working in partiton in CLI (you taught me that terminology) on my
 desktop (Intel32, 256mb ram, 700mH, 20 gb hd), now that I have
 10.1 running in VMware on my new (AMD64, 500mb ram, 2.0mH, 60gb
 hd) laptop, with KDE running and Foxfire installed, my learning
 curve has accelaerated a bit, got more ideas for things to try on
 6.0 to get KDE going ... mainly grinding through the 1000
 different possible configuration combinations using that old
 Xconfigurator ...

 ... 10.1 bombed out on my desktop in the first 30 seconds of the
 boot-up install, didn't like my disk drive partitions (old
 machine, badly chopped up with 6-7 partitons, been re-partitioned
 alot) ..

 ... my new laptop refuses to be partitioned by either my
 Partition Magic, or by 10.1 when I tried to install it from
 bootup, that's why I had to go the VMware route (very sluggish,
 but totally functional) ..

 ... so, think I can go back and squeeze in a small Fat32
 partition on my desktop, along the lines of your suggestion, but
 cannot for 10.1 on my laptop ..

 .. one thought - I'm on the internet in Linux through my wireless
 local LAN network just fine, could Windows send stuff to Linux
 over that LAN network ?


h k, you can let Linux (10.1) read the Windows NT file system but 
not (safely) write to it.  If it's FAT32, no problems whatsoever.  
But Windows cannot write to Linux (I think it can't even see 
other filesystems than NT and FAT - but I'm not sure, have never 
used Windows).

Another solution : If you have the dough, by an external USB hard 
disk with at least one FAT32 partition.  Should be accessible from 
either OS.

Glad you got the other things sorted out.

Kaj Haulrich.
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RE: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-03-05 Thread h k ball
Mikkel ...

... have a wireless network system in my office, my computers all have 
their C:, D:, etc files shared, send stuff back and forth all the time .. 
for purposes of discussion, my too main players are:

My Desktop - Workgroup: HKwork, Computer name: Faster (has MD 6.0 working 
in CLI mode, regular bootup on separate partition)

My Laptop:- Workgroup: Workgroup, Computer name: Best (has MD 10.1 working 
in KDE in Virtual Machine)

  so, on the MD 6.0 on the desktop, Linux is .HKwork.Faster
. and, on the MD 10.1 on my laptop Linux is .Workgroup.Best

... so the sharing stuff has been in place for some time, my question is
what line of code do I use employing smb4k to see Windows platforms  ?

(something) smb4k (something) ( HKwork/Faster/C something)

HK

-Original Message-
From:   Mikkel L. Ellertson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Saturday, March 05, 2005 2:30 PM
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject:Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE  mode?

h k ball wrote:
 Mikkel ...

  could only install 10.1(only paid 6 bucks, not too bad) on VM on my
 laptop (see my message just now to Kaj for the gory details) ... 1024X768 
 working just fine without an nVidia card ...

 ... have been trying to figure out the smb4k alternative you suggested,
 read the manual, googled around, still no clue ...

 ... what is an example of a line of code I might try  ? (as root, I know
 that much)

 HK

On your laptop, the first step is to enable file sharing in XP. Then you
have to deside how much of your XP drive you want to share. You may want
to create just one directory for moving files between the two systems.
You may also have to make some adjustments on the firewall in XP to let
Linux connect from inside VMware. I think this is still covered in the
VMware documentation. In any case, it is the same as setting up XP to
share a directory with other machines in the local network. It also
helps if you use the same workgroup name in XT and smb4k. As a test, you
should be able to see the directory you have set up from your desktop
system when both it, and the laptop are on the same network. If the two
machines running Windows can not share files, then Linux running in
VMware is probably going to have problems as well.

A second way would be to configure Samba under Linux, and have it share
out a directory. You would have to use XP to transfere files between
this directory and the XP file system.

One quick way to set up a directory for sharing is to double-click on
the hard drive icon on the desktop, navigate to the directory you would
like to share. Right click on it, pick Properties, and then Local Net
Shating. You will probably have to enter the root password, and enable
this. It may also ask to install some packages. Let it.

Mikkel
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Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-03-05 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
h k ball wrote:
Mikkel ...
... have a wireless network system in my office, my computers all have 
their C:, D:, etc files shared, send stuff back and forth all the time .. 
for purposes of discussion, my too main players are:

My Desktop - Workgroup: HKwork, Computer name: Faster (has MD 6.0 working 
in CLI mode, regular bootup on separate partition)

My Laptop:- Workgroup: Workgroup, Computer name: Best (has MD 10.1 working 
in KDE in Virtual Machine)

  so, on the MD 6.0 on the desktop, Linux is .HKwork.Faster
. and, on the MD 10.1 on my laptop Linux is .Workgroup.Best
... so the sharing stuff has been in place for some time, my question is
what line of code do I use employing smb4k to see Windows platforms  ?
(something) smb4k (something) ( HKwork/Faster/C something)
HK
Oh. I didn't understand what you were asking. You do not use smb4k from 
the command line. It is a GUI that will let you see the shares on the 
network, and mount them. If you want to mount a share from the command 
line, then try this as root:

mkdir /mnt/samba
mount -t smbfs //faster/share name /mnt/samba
Replave share name with the Windows share name. You can get a list 
of shares by running smbclient -L faster.

Mikkel
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RE: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-03-04 Thread h k ball
... Hi Kaj, Anne, Mikkel, Snap, et al ...

... I'm the newbie that showed up for the first time about 3 weeks ago, was 
overwhelmed with your responsiveness, but was way over my head, and felt 
guilty ... have a confession to make ...

... back in 1999 I bought Mandrake 6.0 ($35), tried putting it on the same 
machine with my Win2000, WinNT, etc, failed, gave up, put it on the shelf, 
forgot about it ...then, what with my wonderful experience with Firefox vs 
IE, etc etc, saw open sourcing in a whole new light, decided to try again, 
found your newbie list, and, trying harder this time, got it running in the 
command mode, and you all tought me a whole lot about moving around in that 
environment, really valuable stuff ...

... but I was flying under false colors ... you are all 10.1 folks, with 
10.1 problems and 10.1 solutions ... so I shut up, quit wasting your time, 
got on Ebay, bought 10.1 for $6.00 (thought, this is a dumb move) ... 3-4 
days later a small envelop arrived with 4 disks, nothing else ... enlarged 
my Ext2, Swap partitions,etc ... total disaster, on two different machines 
bombed out immediately on install  (thought you got what you paid for) ...

... had been hearing alot about VMware, how you don't need to partition, 
etc, lo and behold, VMware has a 5.0 in Beta testing until Apr 29 !!! ... 
(I'm really really cheap) ...

... to make a 4 day story short, I have 10.1 running with a genaric VM 
video driver (nVidia card in my machine) at 1024x768, KDE up and running, 
have installed my beloved Firefox, things are fantastic !!! ... so now 
maybe I can legitimately ask you guys some questions:

(1) ... if I'm going to migrate to Linux from Windows I need to transfer 
alot of files, there's got to be a better way from what I'm doing, which is 
sending stuff to my webpage, then accessing/downloading them through 
Firefox ... any more direct way (haven't figured out how to communicate on 
my office LAN yet) ... ???

(2) ... operations and webpage downloads are vey slw with one 
exception, downloaded Firefox (8.2 meg) in 30 seconds (DSL) ... I suspect 
its the VMware's fault, but any tricks to speed things up ???

... again, I'm very appreciative and humbled  ...

HK


-Original Message-
From:   Kaj Haulrich [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Thursday, February 17, 2005 6:02 AM
To: h k ball
Cc: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject:Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE  mode?

On Thursday 17 February 2005 03:29, you wrote:
 Kaj ...

 ... based on today's wanderings, have concluded

 (1) ... need to connect to the net in CLI mod (how???)
 (2) ... download the Nvidia Vanta video card (how ? ... put in
 what directory so Xconfigurator can find it )
 (3) ... rerun Xconfigurator

 (4) ... maybe then stuff will work, although ...
 (5)  ... XFdrake doesn't exist
 (6) ... nothing containing auth exists

 HK

 ... looked at your web page, photos ... lovely daughter  ...
 article on healthcare, suits, accountants, etc made me laugh,
 we're not far behind you in our deterioration ...

Thanks, h k Where do you live ?

I'm a little confused about what you're trying to do...

(1) Why connect from the CLI ? - If you absolutely must then (as
root) : ifconfig eth0.  That is if you use ethernet as your
interface ?  -  Otherwise I'd recommend the GUI way for newbies,
just  : mcc, then give root password.  Go to Network  Internet
and make your choices.

(2) I don't have Nvidia, but I think you can use it in fb mode
(frame buffer) without the Nvidia drivers until you get things
sorted out.

(3) I don't thing you need to run xconfigurator, only XFdrake.

(4,5,6) You'll need to run XFdrake as root.

Lastly, a dumb question : Do you have a x server running ?

Kaj Haulrich.
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Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-03-04 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
h k ball wrote:
... Hi Kaj, Anne, Mikkel, Snap, et al ...
... I'm the newbie that showed up for the first time about 3 weeks ago, was 
overwhelmed with your responsiveness, but was way over my head, and felt 
guilty ... have a confession to make ...

... back in 1999 I bought Mandrake 6.0 ($35), tried putting it on the same 
machine with my Win2000, WinNT, etc, failed, gave up, put it on the shelf, 
forgot about it ...then, what with my wonderful experience with Firefox vs 
IE, etc etc, saw open sourcing in a whole new light, decided to try again, 
found your newbie list, and, trying harder this time, got it running in the 
command mode, and you all tought me a whole lot about moving around in that 
environment, really valuable stuff ...

... but I was flying under false colors ... you are all 10.1 folks, with 
10.1 problems and 10.1 solutions ... so I shut up, quit wasting your time, 
got on Ebay, bought 10.1 for $6.00 (thought, this is a dumb move) ... 3-4 
days later a small envelop arrived with 4 disks, nothing else ... enlarged 
my Ext2, Swap partitions,etc ... total disaster, on two different machines 
bombed out immediately on install  (thought you got what you paid for) ...

... had been hearing alot about VMware, how you don't need to partition, 
etc, lo and behold, VMware has a 5.0 in Beta testing until Apr 29 !!! ... 
(I'm really really cheap) ...

... to make a 4 day story short, I have 10.1 running with a genaric VM 
video driver (nVidia card in my machine) at 1024x768, KDE up and running, 
have installed my beloved Firefox, things are fantastic !!! ... so now 
maybe I can legitimately ask you guys some questions:

(1) ... if I'm going to migrate to Linux from Windows I need to transfer 
alot of files, there's got to be a better way from what I'm doing, which is 
sending stuff to my webpage, then accessing/downloading them through 
Firefox ... any more direct way (haven't figured out how to communicate on 
my office LAN yet) ... ???

(2) ... operations and webpage downloads are vey slw with one 
exception, downloaded Firefox (8.2 meg) in 30 seconds (DSL) ... I suspect 
its the VMware's fault, but any tricks to speed things up ???

... again, I'm very appreciative and humbled  ...
HK

I wish you would have told us you were running 6.0 - we could have 
pointed you to where you could download the CD images for 10.1 for free, 
or purchesed them fairly cheap. (You can download the first 3 CD's from 
the Internet.)

Now, as far as transfering files between Windows and Linux, it depends 
on how you are running Linux. If you are running it in a VMware window, 
then you may want to create a share on the windows machine, and use 
smb4k to map the share on Linux. You can alsu use the mount command from 
the command line interface, but smb4k is probably going to work better 
for you at this point.

If you are dual booting Windows and Linux on a machine, you can mount 
the windows partition directly in Linux. In fact, the installer usualy 
will set this up for you. Diskdrake will also do it for you. If you are 
using the NT file system, then it will be mounted read only - you can 
transfere files to Linux, but there are some problems writing to NT file 
systems. (Has this changed?) There are no problems reading/writing FAT 
file systems.

Depending on the nVidia card you have, 10.1 may work with it out of the 
box, or you may have to install extra drivers. There have been a lot of 
messages about this. I don't have personal experence with the cards that 
require this.

As far as your install problems directly to the hardware, instead of 
installing in VMware, we should be able to work around them. The bit 
thing is to describe the hardware, and be willing to try a couple of 
options during install. Most people don't need to do this, but some 
hardware requires more effort then others... I usualy have less trouble 
installing Linux then I do Windows, unless I have one of the restore CDs 
for the machine that basicly restores a working image to the hard drive.

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Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-03-04 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Friday 04 March 2005 19:47, h k ball wrote:

snip
 (1) ... if I'm going to migrate to Linux from Windows I need to
 transfer alot of files, there's got to be a better way from what
 I'm doing, which is sending stuff to my webpage, then
 accessing/downloading them through Firefox ... any more direct
 way (haven't figured out how to communicate on my office LAN yet)
/snip

Welcome back, h k...

I didn't realize you were running 6.0, but it induces that nostalgic 
feeling in me.

If, by any chance, you are dual-booting Linux and another OS, an 
easy way to transfer files is to create an extra FAT32  partition 
in the middle to share files.  Most OS's can read and write to 
FAT32.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-02-17 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Thursday 17 Feb 2005 02:33, h k ball wrote:
 Yankl, Anne ...

 ... tried XFdrake, not there ... tried whereis X, find X, no XF's ...

Did you do this as root?  If you didn't it would report 'not found', as it is 
invisible to a user.  To become root simply type
su
then give the root password.
Try XFdrake again, and when you have finished, whether successful or not, type
exit
to get back to being a normal user.

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Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-02-17 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Thursday 17 February 2005 03:29, you wrote:
 Kaj ...

 ... based on today's wanderings, have concluded

 (1) ... need to connect to the net in CLI mod (how???)
 (2) ... download the Nvidia Vanta video card (how ? ... put in
 what directory so Xconfigurator can find it )
 (3) ... rerun Xconfigurator

 (4) ... maybe then stuff will work, although ...
 (5)  ... XFdrake doesn't exist
 (6) ... nothing containing auth exists

 HK

 ... looked at your web page, photos ... lovely daughter  ...
 article on healthcare, suits, accountants, etc made me laugh,
 we're not far behind you in our deterioration ...

Thanks, h k Where do you live ?

I'm a little confused about what you're trying to do...

(1) Why connect from the CLI ? - If you absolutely must then (as 
root) : ifconfig eth0.  That is if you use ethernet as your 
interface ?  -  Otherwise I'd recommend the GUI way for newbies, 
just  : mcc, then give root password.  Go to Network  Internet 
and make your choices.

(2) I don't have Nvidia, but I think you can use it in fb mode 
(frame buffer) without the Nvidia drivers until you get things 
sorted out.

(3) I don't thing you need to run xconfigurator, only XFdrake.

(4,5,6) You'll need to run XFdrake as root.

Lastly, a dumb question : Do you have a x server running ?

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Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-02-17 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Thursday 17 Feb 2005 11:01, Kaj Haulrich wrote:

 Thanks, h k Where do you live ?

 I'm a little confused about what you're trying to do...

 (1) Why connect from the CLI ? - If you absolutely must then (as
 root) : ifconfig eth0.  That is if you use ethernet as your
 interface ?  -  Otherwise I'd recommend the GUI way for newbies,
 just  : mcc, then give root password.  Go to Network  Internet
 and make your choices.

 (2) I don't have Nvidia, but I think you can use it in fb mode
 (frame buffer) without the Nvidia drivers until you get things
 sorted out.

 (3) I don't thing you need to run xconfigurator, only XFdrake.

 (4,5,6) You'll need to run XFdrake as root.

 Lastly, a dumb question : Do you have a x server running ?

Kaj, he hasn't managed to boot into X at all - that's where this all started.  
My theory was that there was a problem with graphics drivers and/or monitor 
and that he should run the drakes from the cli to get them set up right, but 
he hasn't managed to do that, either.

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RE: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-02-17 Thread h k ball
Anne, Kaj ...

... typed XFdrake in root directory, got 

program not found

... Kaj, I don't have a GUI yet, that's my main problem .. rebooted, when I got 
to sign-in, typed mcc then my root password, got

type root pasword for maintenace

... one other thing, the other day I got locked up, had to bale out without 
logoff or exit ...
since then, during boot-up, have gotten this (dev/hda5 is my root directory):

dev/hda5 contains a file system with errors, check forced
dev/hda5 unattached inode 108633
dev/hda5 unexpected inconsistancy, run fsck manually
give root password for maintenance...

... maybe need to start over, re-install Mandrake ???

HK

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To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject:Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE  mode?

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On Thursday 17 Feb 2005 11:01, Kaj Haulrich wrote:

 Thanks, h k Where do you live ?

 I'm a little confused about what you're trying to do...

 (1) Why connect from the CLI ? - If you absolutely must then (as
 root) : ifconfig eth0.  That is if you use ethernet as your
 interface ?  -  Otherwise I'd recommend the GUI way for newbies,
 just  : mcc, then give root password.  Go to Network  Internet
 and make your choices.

 (2) I don't have Nvidia, but I think you can use it in fb mode
 (frame buffer) without the Nvidia drivers until you get things
 sorted out.

 (3) I don't thing you need to run xconfigurator, only XFdrake.

 (4,5,6) You'll need to run XFdrake as root.

 Lastly, a dumb question : Do you have a x server running ?

Kaj, he hasn't managed to boot into X at all - that's where this all started.  
My theory was that there was a problem with graphics drivers and/or monitor 
and that he should run the drakes from the cli to get them set up right, but 
he hasn't managed to do that, either.

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RE: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-02-17 Thread h k ball
Kaj ...

... I'm in Atlanta, the bean counters are destroying us all on every front ...

(1) ... I'd love to, but no GUI
(2) .. how do I get in fb (frame buffer) mode ?
(3) .. XFdrake would be lovely if I could find it ... tried whereis XF, find XF 
... nothing ..
(lastly) .. I don't know what x server is, how do I tell if it's running ?

HK
-Original Message-
From:   Kaj Haulrich [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Thursday, February 17, 2005 6:02 AM
To: h k ball
Cc: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject:Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE  mode?

On Thursday 17 February 2005 03:29, you wrote:
 Kaj ...

 ... based on today's wanderings, have concluded

 (1) ... need to connect to the net in CLI mod (how???)
 (2) ... download the Nvidia Vanta video card (how ? ... put in
 what directory so Xconfigurator can find it )
 (3) ... rerun Xconfigurator

 (4) ... maybe then stuff will work, although ...
 (5)  ... XFdrake doesn't exist
 (6) ... nothing containing auth exists

 HK

 ... looked at your web page, photos ... lovely daughter  ...
 article on healthcare, suits, accountants, etc made me laugh,
 we're not far behind you in our deterioration ...

Thanks, h k Where do you live ?

I'm a little confused about what you're trying to do...

(1) Why connect from the CLI ? - If you absolutely must then (as 
root) : ifconfig eth0.  That is if you use ethernet as your 
interface ?  -  Otherwise I'd recommend the GUI way for newbies, 
just  : mcc, then give root password.  Go to Network  Internet 
and make your choices.

(2) I don't have Nvidia, but I think you can use it in fb mode 
(frame buffer) without the Nvidia drivers until you get things 
sorted out.

(3) I don't thing you need to run xconfigurator, only XFdrake.

(4,5,6) You'll need to run XFdrake as root.

Lastly, a dumb question : Do you have a x server running ?

Kaj Haulrich.
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Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-02-17 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
h k ball wrote:
Anne, Kaj ...
... typed XFdrake in root directory, got 

program not found
... Kaj, I don't have a GUI yet, that's my main problem .. rebooted, when I got to 
sign-in, typed mcc then my root password, got
type root pasword for maintenace
... one other thing, the other day I got locked up, had to bale out without 
logoff or exit ...
since then, during boot-up, have gotten this (dev/hda5 is my root directory):
dev/hda5 contains a file system with errors, check forced
dev/hda5 unattached inode 108633
dev/hda5 unexpected inconsistancy, run fsck manually
give root password for maintenance...
... maybe need to start over, re-install Mandrake ???
HK
It is asking for the root password, so it can put you in the maintence 
mode. If you enter the correct password, and then run
fsck -a /dev/hda5 to fix the problem. (I normaly don't advice using 
-a, but in this case, it is probably the best option.)

Once you have that fixed, you can reboot, log in as root, and run 
XFdrake to configure X.

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Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-02-17 Thread hkball
Mikkel, Anne, Kaj ...

... did as you said, Mikkel, then said y to all fix questions, rebooted 
cleanly just fine, right into my user  ... then did su entered my root 
password, logged into root, typed XFdrake, got bash: XFdrake: command not 
found

HK

-Original Message-
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Sent: Feb 17, 2005 1:48 PM
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE  mode?

h k ball wrote:
 Anne, Kaj ...
 
 ... typed XFdrake in root directory, got 
 
 program not found
 
 ... Kaj, I don't have a GUI yet, that's my main problem .. rebooted, when I 
 got to sign-in, typed mcc then my root password, got
 
 type root pasword for maintenace
 
 ... one other thing, the other day I got locked up, had to bale out without 
 logoff or exit ...
 since then, during boot-up, have gotten this (dev/hda5 is my root directory):
 
 dev/hda5 contains a file system with errors, check forced
 dev/hda5 unattached inode 108633
 dev/hda5 unexpected inconsistancy, run fsck manually
 give root password for maintenance...
 
 ... maybe need to start over, re-install Mandrake ???
 
 HK
 
It is asking for the root password, so it can put you in the maintence 
mode. If you enter the correct password, and then run
fsck -a /dev/hda5 to fix the problem. (I normaly don't advice using 
-a, but in this case, it is probably the best option.)

Once you have that fixed, you can reboot, log in as root, and run 
XFdrake to configure X.

Mikkel
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Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-02-17 Thread bascule
you'll need to install drakxtools-newt to get XFdrake on your system, use 
urpmi (as root) to ensure you get all its dependencies 

bascule

On Thursday 17 Feb 2005 19:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-02-17 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Thursday 17 Feb 2005 21:36, bascule wrote:
 you'll need to install drakxtools-newt to get XFdrake on your system, use
 urpmi (as root) to ensure you get all its dependencies

That is 
su
(root password) urpmi drakxtools-newt

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Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-02-17 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Thursday 17 February 2005 19:33, h k ball wrote:
 Kaj ...

 ... I'm in Atlanta, the bean counters are destroying us all on
 every front ...

 (1) ... I'd love to, but no GUI
 (2) .. how do I get in fb (frame buffer) mode ?
 (3) .. XFdrake would be lovely if I could find it ... tried
 whereis XF, find XF ... nothing .. (lastly) .. I don't know what
 x server is, how do I tell if it's running ?

...h k maybe we should send some of our bean counters over, you know 
the bigger predator kills the smaller...OTOH I've read somewhere 
(Tom Clancy, perhaps ?) that within the American Police killing a 
lawyer isn't considered a crime at all... just an idea.

The frame buffer question is a little hairy, depends on your 
graphics card, but take a look here :
http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/BootPrompt-HOWTO-5.html

In order to display a graphical interface Linux uses a X server.  
That's because Linux was designed as a networked system in the 
first place.  You,ll definitely want one.  Mandrake comes with a 
server from Xorg nowadays (earlier it was XFree86).  It's on your 
CD's.  At your command prompt (as root) try : 

urpmi xorg-x11

h k - Some recommendations : I think you'll need a few applications 
until you can get to the GUI. Just urpmi the following :

slocate (a file database). After install, just (as root) run 
updatedb. Then, to find a file, type : locate filename.

mc (Midnight Commander).  A Norton-like file manager and editor.
To display your system, type :mc. To edit a file, type :mcedit 
filename.

When you have a GUI, you'll need the drakes. Those are graphical 
configuration tools.  Their names are descriptive, like 
userdrake, menudrake, keyboarddrake  etc..
You can install them by (as root) : urpmi --fuzzy drake and then 
select the ones you want.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-02-17 Thread yankl
On Thursday 17 February 2005 13:33, h k ball wrote:
 Kaj ...

 ... I'm in Atlanta, the bean counters are destroying us all on every front

You may be a Redneck if your Linux system boot in CLI.
What part of Atlanta. I may be can call you since I am in Marietta.
E-mail me off line.

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Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-02-15 Thread riccardo
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 07:07 pm, h k ball wrote:
  have not been able to get out of the dos mode and into the
 windows mode, namely KDE ... how do I do that ??
__

 ~ maybe, log-on as User [ your personal user name ]

 [ not as root ]

then, as User, execute command :-

startx

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Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-02-15 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
h k ball wrote:
... sent this last night, but think to the wrong  place ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ...

so far I have:
(1) made a 2.5 meg Linux Ext2 partition and a .5 meg Linux SWAP partition
with Partition Magic ...
(2) Using the Mandrake installation disks, got to Congratulations installation
is complete! ... installed about 400 meg of files, including KDE, GNOME 
and associated graphics stuff ... 

(3) have successfully logged on into what I call the dos-like mode, 
been able to use

ls /bin -al |less, |more
linuxconf 
man man  
cd, su, exit   
Xconfigurator (struggle picking a comparable video card, finally found one)

(4) can reboot back and forth between Windows 2000, XP and Linux on same 
machine with no problem, everything still works just fine ...

(5) have not been able to get out of the dos mode and into the 
windows mode, namely KDE ... how do I do that ??

(6) 700 mHz, 256meg ram, 20 gig hd, Nvidia Vanta video card, Intel ... 

hk ball
 

Someone else can help you with the proper configuration of the Nvidia 
card - from all the messages I have seen, it is interesting to 
configure, but I have not had that pleasure yet. You can test your X 
setup by logging in as a user from the CLI (dos) mode, and typing 
startx. This will put you in the GUI mode. I would hold off changing 
to having Linux start in the GUI mode until after you have X working the 
way you want it. When you boot in the CLI mode, you can try different X 
configurations without rebooting. (Unless you manage a configuration 
that blacks out the screen...)

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Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-02-15 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Tuesday 15 Feb 2005 19:07, h k ball wrote:
 ... sent this last night, but think to the wrong  place

Hi, hk, and welcome!

 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ...
 ---
- so far I have:

 (1) made a 2.5 meg Linux Ext2 partition and a .5 meg Linux SWAP partition
 with Partition Magic ...

 (2) Using the Mandrake installation disks, got to Congratulations
 installation is complete! ... installed about 400 meg of files, including
 KDE, GNOME and associated graphics stuff ...

 (3) have successfully logged on into what I call the dos-like mode,
 been able to use

  ls /bin -al |less, |more
  linuxconf
  man man
  cd, su, exit
  Xconfigurator (struggle picking a comparable video card, finally found
 one)

 (4) can reboot back and forth between Windows 2000, XP and Linux on same
 machine with no problem, everything still works just fine ...

 (5) have not been able to get out of the dos mode and into the
 windows mode, namely KDE ... how do I do that ??

The most common cause is video driver problems.  Try running XFDrake to see if 
that helps.

 (6) 700 mHz, 256meg ram, 20 gig hd, Nvidia Vanta video card, Intel ...

Without the proprietary NVidia drivers you will not get hardware acceleration, 
but looking at the rest of your spec you are probably not wanting to play the 
latest games g  so it probably doesn't matter.  Let us know what happens 
when you type XFDrake

 hk ball
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Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-02-15 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 20:07, h k ball wrote:
 ... sent this last night, but think to the wrong  place
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ...
 -
--- so far I have:

 (1) made a 2.5 meg Linux Ext2 partition and a .5 meg Linux SWAP
 partition with Partition Magic ...

 (2) Using the Mandrake installation disks, got to
 Congratulations installation is complete! ... installed about
 400 meg of files, including KDE, GNOME and associated graphics
 stuff ...

 (3) have successfully logged on into what I call the dos-like
 mode, been able to use

  ls /bin -al |less, |more
  linuxconf
  man man
  cd, su, exit
  Xconfigurator (struggle picking a comparable video card, finally
 found one)

 (4) can reboot back and forth between Windows 2000, XP and Linux
 on same machine with no problem, everything still works just fine
 ...

 (5) have not been able to get out of the dos mode and into the
 windows mode, namely KDE ... how do I do that ??

 (6) 700 mHz, 256meg ram, 20 gig hd, Nvidia Vanta video card,
 Intel ...

 hk ball

Congratulations and welcome.  You did fine.

DOS mode is what we call the CLI, the shell, the konsole, the 
terminal etc..  

CLI=Command Line Interface.  From here you can do everything (well, 
almost).  For example get to the GUI (Graphical User Interface), 
like KDE, Gnome or whatever.  Just type :startx (without the 
quotes).

If you prefer to boot directly into the GUI, just (as root) edit the 
file /etc/inittab and change id:3:initdefault: to id:5:initdefault:
That's all.

Kaj Haulrich.
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Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-02-15 Thread hkball
Hi Anne ...

... nice to be here, I'm really really green, nothing but MS windows experience 
...

... no don't need any game stuff ...

... typed XFDrake, got command not found ...

 ... nosing around, found the following KDE files in /usr/bin  (number is filoe 
size):

kde*  24bytes
kdecode* 31512
kdehelp* 194640
kdesetup* 1121
kdesu* 27288 
kdf* 109516
kdm* 136956
kdmconfig* 122740
kdvi* 203452
kedit* 135060

... checking the install.log file in /tmp, I find  installing ...
kdeadmin
kdegames
kdegraphics
kdemultimedia
kdenetwork
kdesu
kdetoys
kdeutils
kdf
kdpms

... on the hi-jacked thing below, no, I didn't do a return on that message (did 
that last night, didn't work) ... did a return from one of the newbie messages, 
that did work ... I just included that as info ...

HK

-Original Message-
From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Feb 15, 2005 2:32 PM
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE  mode?

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On Tuesday 15 Feb 2005 19:07, h k ball wrote:
 ... sent this last night, but think to the wrong  place

Hi, hk, and welcome!

 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ...
 ---
- so far I have:

 (1) made a 2.5 meg Linux Ext2 partition and a .5 meg Linux SWAP partition
 with Partition Magic ...

 (2) Using the Mandrake installation disks, got to Congratulations
 installation is complete! ... installed about 400 meg of files, including
 KDE, GNOME and associated graphics stuff ...

 (3) have successfully logged on into what I call the dos-like mode,
 been able to use

  ls /bin -al |less, |more
  linuxconf
  man man
  cd, su, exit
  Xconfigurator (struggle picking a comparable video card, finally found
 one)

 (4) can reboot back and forth between Windows 2000, XP and Linux on same
 machine with no problem, everything still works just fine ...

 (5) have not been able to get out of the dos mode and into the
 windows mode, namely KDE ... how do I do that ??

The most common cause is video driver problems.  Try running XFDrake to see if 
that helps.

 (6) 700 mHz, 256meg ram, 20 gig hd, Nvidia Vanta video card, Intel ...

Without the proprietary NVidia drivers you will not get hardware acceleration, 
but looking at the rest of your spec you are probably not wanting to play the 
latest games g  so it probably doesn't matter.  Let us know what happens 
when you type XFDrake

 hk ball
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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Welcome on list newbie

 Welcome to the newbie List.
 

 You have just subscribed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Please read this e-mail, and keep it for a future reference.

This indicates that you have 'hi-jacked' a thread.  To better understand why 
this (and several other things) is a problem, read 
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette

Let us know how you get on.

Anne
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Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-02-15 Thread hkball
Hi Kaj ...

... typed startx (no quotes), got 

xauth: error in locking authority file /root/.Xauthority

... then ...
fatal server error:

. ... etc etc, a bunch of other error messages ... tried again from /root, same 
result ..

... on your booting directly approach, I don't know yet how to read a file, 
much less edit it ...

... am about as newbie as you can get, nothing but windows experience ...

HK

-Original Message-
From: Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Feb 15, 2005 2:53 PM
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE  mode?

On Tuesday 15 February 2005 20:07, h k ball wrote:
 ... sent this last night, but think to the wrong  place
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ...
 -
--- so far I have:

 (1) made a 2.5 meg Linux Ext2 partition and a .5 meg Linux SWAP
 partition with Partition Magic ...

 (2) Using the Mandrake installation disks, got to
 Congratulations installation is complete! ... installed about
 400 meg of files, including KDE, GNOME and associated graphics
 stuff ...

 (3) have successfully logged on into what I call the dos-like
 mode, been able to use

  ls /bin -al |less, |more
  linuxconf
  man man
  cd, su, exit
  Xconfigurator (struggle picking a comparable video card, finally
 found one)

 (4) can reboot back and forth between Windows 2000, XP and Linux
 on same machine with no problem, everything still works just fine
 ...

 (5) have not been able to get out of the dos mode and into the
 windows mode, namely KDE ... how do I do that ??

 (6) 700 mHz, 256meg ram, 20 gig hd, Nvidia Vanta video card,
 Intel ...

 hk ball

Congratulations and welcome.  You did fine.

DOS mode is what we call the CLI, the shell, the konsole, the 
terminal etc..  

CLI=Command Line Interface.  From here you can do everything (well, 
almost).  For example get to the GUI (Graphical User Interface), 
like KDE, Gnome or whatever.  Just type :startx (without the 
quotes).

If you prefer to boot directly into the GUI, just (as root) edit the 
file /etc/inittab and change id:3:initdefault: to id:5:initdefault:
That's all.

Kaj Haulrich.
-- 
*sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation*
 * http://haulrich.net *
*Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8*




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Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-02-15 Thread riccardo
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 08:36 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 xauth: error in locking authority file /root/.Xauthority
___-

 ~ try deleting that .Xauthority file

best not to use KDE to log on to Internet

Log on to internet only as User.

Have you yet set up X-windows using XF86 , X-org or what setup system 
Mandrake recommends ?

best rgds





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Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-02-15 Thread hkball
Hello Ricardo ...

... how do I delete a file ? (I am very newbie) ...

... how log on to internet as User ?

... no, have not set up anything, don't no how ... have only logged in and 
nosed around a bit  using ls, cd, etc 

HK

-Original Message-
From: riccardo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Feb 15, 2005 3:56 PM
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE  mode?

On Tuesday 15 February 2005 08:36 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 xauth: error in locking authority file /root/.Xauthority
___-

 ~ try deleting that .Xauthority file

best not to use KDE to log on to Internet

Log on to internet only as User.

Have you yet set up X-windows using XF86 , X-org or what setup system 
Mandrake recommends ?

best rgds







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