Re: [newbie] Browser Encoding
--- Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 03 January 2005 19:38, OOzy Pal wrote: Dears, I am using UTF-8 Encoding. My site chars looks good and nice on Linux (Firefox) but it looks ugly and unreadable on Windows browsers (Firefox for win and IE6) Can anyone help? Why use UTF-8, iso-85xx, windows charsets etc.. in html documents ? You can bypass all that crap, including national special characters, by using plain ASCII. For every thinkable, special character there is an escape-sequence. For example, the Danish *ø* (can you read that ?) will be readable in every browser in every country by encoding it as : *oslash;*. A quotation mark is *quot;* and so on and so forth. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* I can not write my complete site in ASCII as quot etc. The site is not in english. Can any one help = Regards, OOzy What is the purpose of life? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Browser Encoding
On Tuesday 04 January 2005 18:24, OOzy Pal wrote: snip I can not write my complete site in ASCII as quot etc. The site is not in english. Can any one help /snip What language then ? - My guess is that one of the iso-8859-x will cover it. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Browser Encoding
Kaj, The language is Arabic. The reason I am using utf-8 is because google.com does that. I usualy try to look at other guru's code and learn from it. Thank you --- Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 04 January 2005 18:24, OOzy Pal wrote: snip I can not write my complete site in ASCII as quot etc. The site is not in english. Can any one help /snip What language then ? - My guess is that one of the iso-8859-x will cover it. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com = Regards, OOzy What is the purpose of life? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Browser Encoding
OOzy Pal wrote: Kaj, The language is Arabic. The reason I am using utf-8 is because google.com does that. I usualy try to look at other guru's code and learn from it. Check out some other Arabic written web sites. I just took a look at http://www.ahram.org.eg/ and the code uses meta http-equiv='content-type' content='text/html; charset=windows-1256' The web page and font look good both in Linux and Mac OS X. I don't have a Windows machine to test this though. Avi -- Avi Schwartz http://public.xdi.org/=avi.schwartz When you have robbed a man of everything, he is no longer in your power. He is free again. -- Alexander Solzhenitsyn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Browser Encoding
On Monday 03 January 2005 19:38, OOzy Pal wrote: Dears, I am using UTF-8 Encoding. My site chars looks good and nice on Linux (Firefox) but it looks ugly and unreadable on Windows browsers (Firefox for win and IE6) Can anyone help? Why use UTF-8, iso-85xx, windows charsets etc.. in html documents ? You can bypass all that crap, including national special characters, by using plain ASCII. For every thinkable, special character there is an escape-sequence. For example, the Danish *ø* (can you read that ?) will be readable in every browser in every country by encoding it as : *oslash;*. A quotation mark is *quot;* and so on and so forth. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] browser identification
On Monday 08 Nov 2004 15:15, M.Schild wrote: hello, I have installed the kdeaddons. I am puzzled by the browser identification in Konq ´tools´. What is its´ use? Maryse I haven't installed that, so I have to guess, but that's almost certainly where you can put something to make it look as though you are running IE. There are a few really badly designed sites that simply won't let you in if you are running something else, and they mostly read the browser identification. Some mail apps, like Firefox, allow you to have more than one identification, I understand, and switch between them. That way you escape the really annoying thing of having to pretend that you are running windows. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] browser identification
I haven't installed that, so I have to guess, but that's almost certainly where you can put something to make it look as though you are running IE. There are a few really badly designed sites that simply won't let you in if you are running something else, and they mostly read the browser identification. Some mail apps, like Firefox, allow you to have more than one identification, I understand, and switch between them. That way you escape the really annoying thing of having to pretend that you are running windows. That´s more or less what I thouhgt. I shall just avoid sites that want me to pretend I use Windows :-) thanks Matusr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] browser identification
On Monday 08 Nov 2004 17:02, M.Schild wrote: I haven't installed that, so I have to guess, but that's almost certainly where you can put something to make it look as though you are running IE. There are a few really badly designed sites that simply won't let you in if you are running something else, and they mostly read the browser identification. Some mail apps, like Firefox, allow you to have more than one identification, I understand, and switch between them. That way you escape the really annoying thing of having to pretend that you are running windows. That´s more or less what I thouhgt. I shall just avoid sites that want me to pretend I use Windows :-) thanks Matusr For the main part, I agree with you, but a few sad people have found that their banking lines insist on IE. I would be sorely tempted to change banks, but then. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] browser identification
I would be sorely tempted to change banks, but then. mine gives me no trouble Maryse Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] browser identification
On Monday 08 Nov 2004 17:33, M.Schild wrote: I would be sorely tempted to change banks, but then. mine gives me no trouble Maryse Fortunately, neither does mine Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] browser identification
On Monday 08 Nov 2004 17:33, M.Schild wrote: I would be sorely tempted to change banks, but then. mine gives me no trouble Maryse A few days ago I was downloading Opera and in the things fixed page they mentioned the ability to connect to banks. Do not remember if this was Linux or windows version or if it was fixed or going to be fixed. Pat Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Browser
On Thursday 25 September 2003 11:09 am, Lee Wiggers wrote: |I'm using Opera because I'm addicted to mouse gestures. Is there a |OpenSource alternative with this feature? |Lee Firebird has them too -- Imagination is more important than knowledge. ~ Einstein Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Browser
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:10:23 -0500 Curt Tresenriter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 25 September 2003 11:09 am, Lee Wiggers wrote: |I'm using Opera because I'm addicted to mouse gestures. Is there a|OpenSource alternative with this feature? |Lee Firebird has them too -- Imagination is more important than knowledge. ~ Einstein Thanks Curt -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Browser
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:09:09 -0400 Lee Wiggers [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I'm using Opera because I'm addicted to mouse gestures. Is there a OpenSource alternative with this feature? I put the office on Mozilla getting ready for the big mdk day 'cause it'll look the same Monday morning as it did on Win2K Friday afternoon. But...I'm going to have trouble withdrawing from the mouse gesture addiction personnaly. Well, you could switch to a window manager that automatically groups browser windows, open all new pages in a new window, and use the mouse wheel to move between pages. There's this one WM called Pekwm I've heard of that does this... ;-) -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ [Wisdom] is a tree of life to those laying hold of her, making happy each one holding her fast. -- Proverbs 3:18, NSV Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Browser
On Thursday 25 September 2003 12:09 pm, Lee Wiggers wrote: I'm using Opera because I'm addicted to mouse gestures. Is there a OpenSource alternative with this feature? I put the office on Mozilla getting ready for the big mdk day 'cause it'll look the same Monday morning as it did on Win2K Friday afternoon. But...I'm going to have trouble withdrawing from the mouse gesture addiction personnaly. Lee Never tried it, but there is a plugin for Mozilla thats supposed to add this. Can't remember the name of it though, sorry! -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Browser
Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Thursday 25 September 2003 12:09 pm, Lee Wiggers wrote: I'm using Opera because I'm addicted to mouse gestures. Is there a OpenSource alternative with this feature? I put the office on Mozilla getting ready for the big mdk day 'cause it'll look the same Monday morning as it did on Win2K Friday afternoon. But...I'm going to have trouble withdrawing from the mouse gesture addiction personnaly. Lee Never tried it, but there is a plugin for Mozilla thats supposed to add this. Can't remember the name of it though, sorry! Franki: What are mouse gestures? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Browser
Franki wrote: Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Thursday 25 September 2003 12:09 pm, Lee Wiggers wrote: I'm using Opera because I'm addicted to mouse gestures. Is there a OpenSource alternative with this feature? I put the office on Mozilla getting ready for the big mdk day 'cause it'll look the same Monday morning as it did on Win2K Friday afternoon. But...I'm going to have trouble withdrawing from the mouse gesture addiction personnaly. Lee Never tried it, but there is a plugin for Mozilla thats supposed to add this. Can't remember the name of it though, sorry! Franki: What are mouse gestures? http://optimoz.mozdev.org/gestures/ -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Linux user #322847 | Linux machine #207465 | http://counter.li.org/ AMD Duron 1.3GHz | Mandrake Linux 9.1 | Kernel 2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk Reiserfs and XFS | KDE 3.1.3 | Mozilla 1.4 Mail Client Uptime: 14:00:00 up 19 days, 1:15, 1 user, load average: 0.35, 0.21, 0.17 --- All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Browser
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 01:10:24 +0800 Franki [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: What are mouse gestures? You move back and forward in your browser window by moving your mouse left and right...kinda gimmicky. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Force has no place where there is need of skill. -- Herodotus Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Browser
Wow! I never heard of them before your message. I just took at look at how they're implemented in Opera here: http://www.opera.com/features/mouse/ and I have to say that's _awesome_! No wonder you're an addict! Miark On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:09:09 -0400, Lee Wiggers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using Opera because I'm addicted to mouse gestures. Is there a OpenSource alternative with this feature? I put the office on Mozilla getting ready for the big mdk day 'cause it'll look the same Monday morning as it did on Win2K Friday afternoon. But...I'm going to have trouble withdrawing from the mouse gesture addiction personnaly. Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Browser
Where? Miark On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:10:23 -0500, Curt Tresenriter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |I'm using Opera because I'm addicted to mouse gestures. Is there a |OpenSource alternative with this feature? Firebird has them too Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Browser
Lee Wiggers wrote: I'm using Opera because I'm addicted to mouse gestures. Is there a OpenSource alternative with this feature? I put the office on Mozilla getting ready for the big mdk day 'cause it'll look the same Monday morning as it did on Win2K Friday afternoon. But...I'm going to have trouble withdrawing from the mouse gesture addiction personnaly. Lee http://optimoz.mozdev.org/gestures/ -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Linux user #322847 | Linux machine #207465 | http://counter.li.org/ AMD Duron 1.3GHz | Mandrake Linux 9.1 | Kernel 2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk Reiserfs and XFS | KDE 3.1.3 | Mozilla 1.4 Mail Client Uptime: 14:15:00 up 19 days, 1:30, 1 user, load average: 0.19, 0.24, 0.18 --- All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Browser
On M Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |Where? | |Miark | |http://www.texturizer.net/firebird/extensions.html |On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:10:23 -0500, Curt Tresenriter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | |I'm using Opera because I'm addicted to mouse gestures. Is there a | |OpenSource alternative with this feature? | | Firebird has them too | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Browser
Nevermind--I found them on the Extensions web page. Miark On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:14:50 -0400, Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where? Miark On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:10:23 -0500, Curt Tresenriter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |I'm using Opera because I'm addicted to mouse gestures. Is there a |OpenSource alternative with this feature? Firebird has them too Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Browser
Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Thursday 25 September 2003 12:09 pm, Lee Wiggers wrote: I'm using Opera because I'm addicted to mouse gestures. Is there a OpenSource alternative with this feature? I put the office on Mozilla getting ready for the big mdk day 'cause it'll look the same Monday morning as it did on Win2K Friday afternoon. But...I'm going to have trouble withdrawing from the mouse gesture addiction personnaly. Lee Never tried it, but there is a plugin for Mozilla thats supposed to add this. Can't remember the name of it though, sorry! http://optimoz.mozdev.org/gestures/ -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Linux user #322847 | Linux machine #207465 | http://counter.li.org/ AMD Duron 1.3GHz | Mandrake Linux 9.1 | Kernel 2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk Reiserfs and XFS | KDE 3.1.3 | Mozilla 1.4 Mail Client Uptime: 01:25:00 up 19 days, 12:40, 1 user, load average: 0.43, 0.29, 0.20 --- All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] browser save all
El Vie 05 Sep 2003 18:20, Anarky escribió: the only cool thing that I was able to do with MS Internet Explorer but I have not been able to do with any other (free) browser is save a web page as a whole in one neat file ... IE had the .mht format ... and it was very cool that it was all bundled in one file (html, the pics ...) ... isn't there anything like that anywhere else? If you are running KDE: KonquerorToolsArchive Web page. The page will be saved as xxx.war Suerte -- Pilagá GNU/Linux Mandrake 9.1 Núcleo multimedia 2.4.21-0.16 09:38:01 up 19 min, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.05, 0.10 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] browser save all
On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 07:20, Anarky wrote: the only cool thing that I was able to do with MS Internet Explorer but I have not been able to do with any other (free) browser is save a web page as a whole in one neat file ... IE had the .mht format ... and it was very cool that it was all bundled in one file (html, the pics ...) ... isn't there anything like that anywhere else? Um - that was never a first for Microsoft, mate. Mozaic was able to do that many years ago. Most other browsers will do exactly the same thing, but instead of creating a proprietary file type archive - they save the main page, then create a subdirectory that then contains all the images and other bits'n'bobs of the page...which makes it easier to access and modify to suit. stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Pain is a thing of the mind. The mind can be controlled. -- Spock, Operation -- Annihilate! stardate 3287.2 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] browser save all
On Friday 05 September 2003 09:20 pm, Anarky wrote: the only cool thing that I was able to do with MS Internet Explorer but I have not been able to do with any other (free) browser is save a web page as a whole in one neat file ... IE had the .mht format ... and it was very cool that it was all bundled in one file (html, the pics ...) ... isn't there anything like that anywhere else? Opera. Kaj Haulrich. -- Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk Sent to you from a 100 % MicroSCOft-free computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] browser save all
Hello Anarky, Friday, September 5, 2003, 2:20:02 PM, you wrote: Athe only cool thing that I was able to do with MS Internet Explorer A but I have not been able to do with any other (free) browser is save a A web page as a whole in one neat file ... IE had the .mht format ... and A it was very cool that it was all bundled in one file (html, the pics A ...) ... isn't there anything like that anywhere else? Opera can 'save with images' - not all in one file, but everything seems to be there. -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] browser save all
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 07:20, Anarky wrote: the only cool thing that I was able to do with MS Internet Explorer but I have not been able to do with any other (free) browser is save a web page as a whole in one neat file ... IE had the .mht format ... and it was very cool that it was all bundled in one file (html, the pics ...) ... isn't there anything like that anywhere else? You can use an extension for Mozilla Firebird, Leech, to download everything into one directory. Kat Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] browser save all
kat wrote: Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 07:20, Anarky wrote: the only cool thing that I was able to do with MS Internet Explorer but I have not been able to do with any other (free) browser is save a web page as a whole in one neat file ... IE had the .mht format ... and it was very cool that it was all bundled in one file (html, the pics ...) ... isn't there anything like that anywhere else? You can use an extension for Mozilla Firebird, Leech, to download everything into one directory. hmm .. I'll take a look Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] browser save all
On Friday 05 September 2003 05:20 pm, Anarky wrote: the only cool thing that I was able to do with MS Internet Explorer but I have not been able to do with any other (free) browser is save a web page as a whole in one neat file ... IE had the .mht format ... and it was very cool that it was all bundled in one file (html, the pics ...) ... isn't there anything like that anywhere else? wget will do that from the cli. There are several other tools for Linux that will do it but since it only takes one simple wget command to capture an entire site, specifying the number of levels to go, not sure why you would care about using anything else. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Browser compatibility.
On Thursday 04 Jul 2002 5:55 pm, you wrote: On Thursday 04 July 2002 02:27 am, Anne Wilson did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: I guess so - but since I'm in Linux most of the time now it really isn't an issue. Mozilla and Konq both can access, so what the hell? mozilla works but netscape is insecure? they are truely clueless.. It's OK - they're only a bank to which thousands of us trust our money and future... Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Browser compatibility.
Contacting offending websites is a good idea. I can normally only be bothered to do it with sites I visit regularly, or ones I'm related to in some way (e.g. departments at my university). If you can spare the time, it's very good to explain what it is in the site that is causing the problem (this is not always a Linux/w3c issue - it might be related to general web design problems, such as setting an absolute font size which comes out as gigantic or microscopic at the wrong resolution). For example, in the days when I didn't have Flash installed, some bad javascript would cause the Download Flash popup to open in over ten boxes - I wrote to one offending site and it was fixed within the hour. Similarly, when I started out on the web (well before my Linux days) I made the mistake of thinking I could use MS Word's Save as HTML feature. A few polite emails started me on the long road to Linux ... Sir Robin Josef Lowder wrote: The protest message I send to offending websites: Do you realize that limitations you have built into your website cut off more than half the world from being able to access your website? How savvy is that? Why in the world would you design your website to require visitors to use any one type of browser (and/or specific add-on functions like flash) when more than half of the computer users in the world cannot access your website as a consequence? -- Furthermore, when they require a bunch of personal info that I do not want to provide, I just put X's in each field and for an email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;)) On Wednesday 03 Jul 2002 9:35 am, you wrote: Michael Adams wrote: I tried to visit this site. http://www.bet365.com The result upset me so much i sent them this. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- So I repeat myself? I am great, I contain tautologies. Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Üniversitesi Ankara Turkey http://www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Browser compatibility.
On Wednesday 03 Jul 2002 6:03 pm, you wrote: On Wednesday 03 July 2002 12:10 pm, you wrote: On Wednesday 03 Jul 2002 9:35 am, you wrote: Michael Adams wrote: I tried to visit this site. http://www.bet365.com The result upset me so much i sent them this. (Justifiable complaint snipped) --- I am still miffed but i feel better for doing something. I've fired off a few e-mails along similar lines myself in the last week or so. I've got conciliatory though ultimately unhelpful replies - generally along the lines of the use of Windows Media Player being due to circumstances beyond their control. (This was particularly galling with the live coverage from Glastonbury - I had really wanted to see the White Stripes). One of the more knowledgeable respondents suggested I get the CrossOver plugin. I think we should all complain every time we are shut out of a site or other resource due to exercising our right to choose non-MS software. Eventually they might conclude that it's easier to provide platform independent content than to keep having to answer (if answers they can be called) the complaints. On similar lines, though Windows based, I complained to HSBC bank that I was unable to access the on-line bank whilst using Netscape 6.2. I was told that it was not and would not be supported as it was inherently insecure i.e. could save login/passwords. I guess I should have pointed out to them that I could just as easily do that from any number of my linux browsers, if I were stupid enough to do so, but I didn't. I regret that now, although they would probably have just seen that as an excuse to block out linux browsers as well. You could just as well say that I can't have a PIN nu,mber, because I might write it down. How stupid can you get? Anne have you tried it with the browser reporting that it is ie4+? if they are going to tell me I cann't come in without the right key, and the only thing that makes it the right key is me telling them it's the right key then if I want in still, I will tell them; heck yea, it's the right key, and it fits and i have been using this key for x number of months I guess so - but since I'm in Linux most of the time now it really isn't an issue. Mozilla and Konq both can access, so what the hell? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Browser compatibility.
On Wednesday 03 Jul 2002 6:40 pm, you wrote: On Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:10:13 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On similar lines, though Windows based, I complained to HSBC bank that I was unable to access the on-line bank whilst using Netscape 6.2. I was told that it was not and would not be supported as it was inherently insecure i.e. could save login/passwords. I guess I should have pointed out to them that I could just as easily do that from any number of my linux browsers, if I were stupid enough to do so, but I didn't. I regret that now, although they would probably have just seen that as an excuse to block out linux browsers as well. You could just as well say that I can't have a PIN nu,mber, because I might write it down. How stupid can you get? Insecure? Have they read ANYTHING about IE. Besides you can save passwords with IE just like any browser. Bill 'Ignorance is bliss! 'Tis folly to be wise' Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Browser compatibility.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 04 July 2002 02:27 am, Anne Wilson did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: I guess so - but since I'm in Linux most of the time now it really isn't an issue. Mozilla and Konq both can access, so what the hell? mozilla works but netscape is insecure? they are truely clueless.. - -- Microsoft, the RIAA, the TCPA, Palladium, etc. ad nausium, these are assaults on our basic rights as humans. They are all efforts to control us. They must be fought. You can have peace or freedom, but rarely both at once. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9JH4DBwq+ZwvIN/oRAn+CAJ4q7+UTXNV1IcZH4zonX/WvYijLmwCeIqRl m5gdSNQ35lWpROGDnGaEmwA= =2DKR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Browser compatibility.
Bill Davidson wrote: On Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:10:13 +0100 Insecure? Have they read ANYTHING about IE. Besides you can save passwords with IE just like any browser. Bill Oh man, they are pathetic. Mozilla is much more secure then any version of IE. And if they don't know You can set Mozilla to encrypt all passwords that are saved. So it would be very hard to get passwords even if someone tried it on your own machine. Oh yeah and not to say that IE also can save passwords and I don't trust it one bit. And so much security problems with IE. Damn they should ban IE users :) -- Live long and prosper! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Browser compatibility.
On Wed, 03 Jul 2002 19:38, Michael Adams wrote: I tried to visit this site. http://www.bet365.com The result upset me so much i sent them this. -- Incompatible Browser From: Michael Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Sir I am one of the many people turning to the Virus Free Linux/Unix alternative for my browsing. Internet Explorer is not written for Linux. Microsofts browser has never been a W3C standard for viewing of web pages. HTML has and i have 5 browsers on my computer that can read HTML, JAVA, JavaScript, CSS, XML and Flash in most if not all of their incarnations. Making your site available to one browser only is like allowing fords only on the road. You force me to do business elsewhere - thus i will comply and do bussiness elsewhere. --- I am still miffed but i feel better for doing something. Whoops :-( I got bounced, so i sent it to the bounce address MAILTO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Browser compatibility.
Michael Adams wrote: I tried to visit this site. http://www.bet365.com The result upset me so much i sent them this. (Justifiable complaint snipped) --- I am still miffed but i feel better for doing something. I've fired off a few e-mails along similar lines myself in the last week or so. I've got conciliatory though ultimately unhelpful replies - generally along the lines of the use of Windows Media Player being due to circumstances beyond their control. (This was particularly galling with the live coverage from Glastonbury - I had really wanted to see the White Stripes). One of the more knowledgeable respondents suggested I get the CrossOver plugin. I think we should all complain every time we are shut out of a site or other resource due to exercising our right to choose non-MS software. Eventually they might conclude that it's easier to provide platform independent content than to keep having to answer (if answers they can be called) the complaints. -- Graham Watkins For me, morning begins when I realize that the soft warm body curled up next to me is a cat. (Kinky Friedman - Frequent Flyer) Registered Linux user number 265254 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Browser compatibility.
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On Wednesday 03 July 2002 9:21 am, Michael Adams wrote:
I am still miffed but i feel better for doing something.
Whoops :-( I got bounced, so i sent it to the bounce address
MAILTO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
WD for finding this - I've been hoping to ever since I started using
Linux but had not come across one yet :)
The source contains the dead giveaway:
meta name='GENERATOR' content='Microsoft FrontPage 4.0'
and the site uses (Microsoft) Internet Information Server.
Evidently a 'Microsoft shop', and it's quite likely 'incompatible
browser' = 'site done on cheap, thus no testing with other browsers'.
I can view the front page by changing the Konqueror browser
identification to 'IE 4.01 on Windows 2000' (Tools | Change Browser
Identification); however, if I go inside Konqueror locks up.
I also love this puffery ('excellent site design' ... for one browser!)
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2001/10/prweb28773.php
Alastair
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Alastair Scott (London, United Kingdom)
http://www.unmetered.org.uk/
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RE: [newbie] Browser compatibility.
Although I have to use Windows at work I choose not to use IE and switch between Opera and Netscape. Web designers who only design for one browser are very shortsighted. Maybe if he/she gets enough email about it they will see the error of their ways. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael Adams Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 3:39 AM To: NEWBIE Subject: [newbie] Browser compatibility. I tried to visit this site. http://www.bet365.com The result upset me so much i sent them this. -- Incompatible Browser From: Michael Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Sir I am one of the many people turning to the Virus Free Linux/Unix alternative for my browsing. Internet Explorer is not written for Linux. Microsofts browser has never been a W3C standard for viewing of web pages. HTML has and i have 5 browsers on my computer that can read HTML, JAVA, JavaScript, CSS, XML and Flash in most if not all of their incarnations. Making your site available to one browser only is like allowing fords only on the road. You force me to do business elsewhere - thus i will comply and do bussiness elsewhere. --- I am still miffed but i feel better for doing something. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Browser compatibility.
On Wednesday 03 Jul 2002 9:35 am, you wrote: Michael Adams wrote: I tried to visit this site. http://www.bet365.com The result upset me so much i sent them this. (Justifiable complaint snipped) --- I am still miffed but i feel better for doing something. I've fired off a few e-mails along similar lines myself in the last week or so. I've got conciliatory though ultimately unhelpful replies - generally along the lines of the use of Windows Media Player being due to circumstances beyond their control. (This was particularly galling with the live coverage from Glastonbury - I had really wanted to see the White Stripes). One of the more knowledgeable respondents suggested I get the CrossOver plugin. I think we should all complain every time we are shut out of a site or other resource due to exercising our right to choose non-MS software. Eventually they might conclude that it's easier to provide platform independent content than to keep having to answer (if answers they can be called) the complaints. On similar lines, though Windows based, I complained to HSBC bank that I was unable to access the on-line bank whilst using Netscape 6.2. I was told that it was not and would not be supported as it was inherently insecure i.e. could save login/passwords. I guess I should have pointed out to them that I could just as easily do that from any number of my linux browsers, if I were stupid enough to do so, but I didn't. I regret that now, although they would probably have just seen that as an excuse to block out linux browsers as well. You could just as well say that I can't have a PIN nu,mber, because I might write it down. How stupid can you get? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Browser compatibility.
On Wednesday 03 July 2002 12:10 pm, you wrote: On Wednesday 03 Jul 2002 9:35 am, you wrote: Michael Adams wrote: I tried to visit this site. http://www.bet365.com The result upset me so much i sent them this. (Justifiable complaint snipped) --- I am still miffed but i feel better for doing something. I've fired off a few e-mails along similar lines myself in the last week or so. I've got conciliatory though ultimately unhelpful replies - generally along the lines of the use of Windows Media Player being due to circumstances beyond their control. (This was particularly galling with the live coverage from Glastonbury - I had really wanted to see the White Stripes). One of the more knowledgeable respondents suggested I get the CrossOver plugin. I think we should all complain every time we are shut out of a site or other resource due to exercising our right to choose non-MS software. Eventually they might conclude that it's easier to provide platform independent content than to keep having to answer (if answers they can be called) the complaints. On similar lines, though Windows based, I complained to HSBC bank that I was unable to access the on-line bank whilst using Netscape 6.2. I was told that it was not and would not be supported as it was inherently insecure i.e. could save login/passwords. I guess I should have pointed out to them that I could just as easily do that from any number of my linux browsers, if I were stupid enough to do so, but I didn't. I regret that now, although they would probably have just seen that as an excuse to block out linux browsers as well. You could just as well say that I can't have a PIN nu,mber, because I might write it down. How stupid can you get? Anne have you tried it with the browser reporting that it is ie4+? if they are going to tell me I cann't come in without the right key, and the only thing that makes it the right key is me telling them it's the right key then if I want in still, I will tell them; heck yea, it's the right key, and it fits and i have been using this key for x number of months Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Browser compatibility.
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:10:13 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On similar lines, though Windows based, I complained to HSBC bank that I was unable to access the on-line bank whilst using Netscape 6.2. I was told that it was not and would not be supported as it was inherently insecure i.e. could save login/passwords. I guess I should have pointed out to them that I could just as easily do that from any number of my linux browsers, if I were stupid enough to do so, but I didn't. I regret that now, although they would probably have just seen that as an excuse to block out linux browsers as well. You could just as well say that I can't have a PIN nu,mber, because I might write it down. How stupid can you get? Insecure? Have they read ANYTHING about IE. Besides you can save passwords with IE just like any browser. Bill Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Browser compatibility.
On Wednesday 03 July 2002 03:38, Michael wrote: I tried to visit this site. http://www.bet365.com The result upset me so much i sent them this. I sent the letter below, and I encourage everyone on the list to send a similar letter. - Subject: Create a Real Web Site Please From: Bryan S. Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] When attempting to view your site using Konqueror 2.2.1 and Mozilla 0.9.4, both Linux web browsers, I was curtly informed that my browser is incompatible. Your site, sir, is what is incompatible. Stick with established standards and real html, not Microsoft proprietary features. *** Powered by SuSE Linux 7.3 Professional KDE 2.2.1 KMail 1.3.1 This is a Microsoft-free computer Bryan S. Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Browser compatibility.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 03 July 2002 6:48 pm, Bryan Tyson wrote: When attempting to view your site using Konqueror 2.2.1 and Mozilla 0.9.4, both Linux web browsers, I was curtly informed that my browser is incompatible. Your site, sir, is what is incompatible. Stick with established standards and real html, not Microsoft proprietary features. Excellent - even someone who can't string two words together will understand that :) It may well work. Some time ago www.smile.co.uk was a famous browser-cracker but (in my Windows days) I and others managed to persuade the Co-Operative Bank to make it work with Opera. They did better and threw out all the non-standards-compliant plumbing; it now works with all three principal Linux browsers whereas, I suspect, it once worked with none of them. (I admit to pressing down on a huge lever; the Co-Op takes great pride in being an ethical organisation* and I wrote to the CEO arguing that cutting out potential swathes of users through carelessness was both unethical and poor business sense!) Alastair * http://www.smile.co.uk/images/pdf/ethical_policy.pdf - -- Alastair Scott (London, United Kingdom) http://www.unmetered.org.uk/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9IziECv59vFiSU4YRAtk5AKCezaSeYnAHInYdfDE2RXSdlN6KPACfZA5z uLaXjr1bwZpI9ECid3QXJKc= =ofah -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Browser compatibility.
The protest message I send to offending websites: Do you realize that limitations you have built into your website cut off more than half the world from being able to access your website? How savvy is that? Why in the world would you design your website to require visitors to use any one type of browser (and/or specific add-on functions like flash) when more than half of the computer users in the world cannot access your website as a consequence? -- Furthermore, when they require a bunch of personal info that I do not want to provide, I just put X's in each field and for an email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;)) On Wednesday 03 Jul 2002 9:35 am, you wrote: Michael Adams wrote: I tried to visit this site. http://www.bet365.com The result upset me so much i sent them this. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Browser compatibility.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 03 July 2002 04:55 am, Jure Repinc did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: If you set it to represent itself as IE. If you set it to represent itself as Opera, site blocks it. Sites like this really stink. i have always wondered how much of the IE % of use is really other browsers pretending. damn chicken and egg again - -- Going from DOS to Linux is like trading a glider for an F117. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9I0ShBwq+ZwvIN/oRAsHBAJ97h4QmI6ujADig2GSKuVeOurS7wQCfRdA2 wDxnsE8jTl9ulzGZjSb4zxs= =5XCR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Browser compatibility.
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Michael Adams wrote: I tried to visit this site. http://www.bet365.com The result upset me so much i sent them this. ... snip ... Good for you. You can view the site in Opera with the identifier set to MSIE 5.0 - but don't tell them that! -- Len Lawrence Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Browser testing grounds
On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 07:36, Miark wrote: Strange. I just pointed Konqueror at www.prepaid-phone-cards-gbs.com and not only are the floating tables not floating, but the Mandrake and Apache images at the bottom of the page don't appear at all! The Mozilla trio (Mozilla, Galeon, and Netscape) have no problem. I guess if you need a page to test browsers (I'm thinking of something Civileme said this week) this is a good one. Miark It looks fine to me. I'm using Konqueror from KDE 2.2b1. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] Browser testing grounds
On Thursday 19 July 2001 22:36, Miark wrote: Strange. I just pointed Konqueror at www.prepaid-phone-cards-gbs.com and not only are the floating tables not floating, but the Mandrake and Apache images at the bottom of the page don't appear at all! The Mozilla trio (Mozilla, Galeon, and Netscape) have no problem. I guess if you need a page to test browsers (I'm thinking of something Civileme said this week) this is a good one. Miark WorksForMe © -- Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales. Registered Linux User No. 219434 ( see http://counter.li.org/ ). Linux Mandrake release 8.0 (Traktopel) for i586, kernel 2.4.3-20mdk-win4lin-pnr, XFree86 4.0.3, patch level 11mdk, KDE: 2.1.2, Qt: 2.3.1. Uptime 5 hours 28 minutes
Re: [newbie] browser based system config
Thats the fella, cheers Jamie From: Joan Tur Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] browser based system config Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:40:21 -0500 https://127.0.0.1:1 Jamie Kerwick escribió: I'm back to using Mandrake after a good few months after experimenting, and can't for the life of me remember how to access the browser based admin tools, all i can remember is that it started https:// -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Re: [newbie] browser based system config
https://127.0.0.1:1 Jamie Kerwick escribi: I'm back to using Mandrake after a good few months after experimenting, and can't for the life of me remember how to access the browser based admin tools, all i can remember is that it started https:// -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783
Re: [newbie] Browser Problem
El Lunes 12 Febrero 2001 01:45, escribiste: Dear List, Running LM7.2; whenever I use Netscape 4.75 or Konqueror for a few minutes browsing, it _always_ shuts down (or more approriately, the application dies), and I'm returned to the desktop or worst to the login screen. Any ideas? Thanks -- I have the same problem What's going on? Is it a security issue? John David Molina
Re: [newbie] Browser Problem
John David Molina wrote: El Lunes 12 Febrero 2001 01:45, escribiste: Dear List, Running LM7.2; whenever I use Netscape 4.75 or Konqueror for a few minutes browsing, it _always_ shuts down (or more approriately, the application dies), and I'm returned to the desktop or worst to the login screen. Any ideas? Thanks -- I have the same problem What's going on? Is it a security issue? John David Molina Can you log back into X with no problem after this happens, or does the desktop appear and then a crash occur when the system restores the previous settings? Does this happen with all the Xservers, or just with KDE?
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I screwed this one up didn't I? I meant Windows Managers, not Xservers. Brain in neutral, again. Original Message Subject: Re: [newbie] Browser Problem Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:00:27 -0800 From: eryl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] John David Molina wrote: El Lunes 12 Febrero 2001 01:45, escribiste: Dear List, Running LM7.2; whenever I use Netscape 4.75 or Konqueror for a few minutes browsing, it _always_ shuts down (or more approriately, the application dies), and I'm returned to the desktop or worst to the login screen. Any ideas? Thanks -- I have the same problem What's going on? Is it a security issue? John David Molina Can you log back into X with no problem after this happens, or does the desktop appear and then a crash occur when the system restores the previous settings? Does this happen with all the Xservers, or just with KDE?
Re: [newbie] Browser Fonts...
When using Netscape, the best things to do (IMHO) are to either use the fonts that come with the Mozilla Fonts package (on the Mandrake 7.1 CD) or to use Drakfont (or do it manually if you wish) to import your WinDOS TTF (TrueType) fonts and use them. I prefer the latter, and I use Arial and Times New Roman (both TTF fonts) in all my apps. BTW, does anyone know if there is anything wrong with what I am doing, like higher memory consumption or something? I can't find any problems, but I'm asking just in case. On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, Altoine Barker wrote: Here is my preference for my browser fonts; I use my default encoding: Western (iso-8859) Variable Width Font: Helvetica (Adobe) Size 14.0 Fixed Width Font: Courier (Adobe) Size 14.0 allow scaling box selected and I set "Use my default fonts, overriding document-specified fonts" This has allowed me to have very satisfactory viewable and very legible fonts that I don't have to quint my eyes to read. Sincerely, Al Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't forget once you've selected what font you want to be presented on the page you've also got to tell the browser that you want this font displayed in lieu of any other fonts that may be embeded on the page. -- _ Sridhar Dhanapalan Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! _
Re: [newbie] Browser Fonts...
Robert -- If you are using Netscape (or as some affectionately call it "Nutscrape" giggle) go to edit --- preferences appearance fonts. You can then change the font face and/or the font size to what you would like. I also check the "Use my default fonts, overriding" Hope this helps :-) Patti Registered Linux User #184611 Original Message On 9/3/00, 8:07:50 AM, Robert Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [newbie] Browser Fonts...: Hi, when i'm surfing on the net all the fonts on web page's are tiny and a horrible font type, i can put up with it but if anybody knows how to change them, i would be grateful, there kinda hard to read on certain pages. Thanks in advance... Robert. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [newbie] Browser Fonts...
Robert Griffiths escribió: Hi, when i'm surfing on the net all the fonts on web page's are tiny and a horrible font type, i can put up with it but if anybody knows how to change them, i would be grateful, there kinda hard to read on certain pages. Thanks in advance... Robert. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Download and install the following: ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake/7.1/Mandrake/RPMS/mozilla-fonts-2310-5mdk.noarch.rpm -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joan.Tur.pagina.de Club.Ibosim.pagina.de
Re: [newbie] Browser Fonts...
Netscape | Edit | Preferences | Appearance | Fonts: Variable Width Fonts...Size 16.0 Fixed Width Fonts... Size 14.0 Hi, when i'm surfing on the net all the fonts on web page's are tiny and a horrible font type, i can put up with it but if anybody knows how to change them, i would be grateful, there kinda hard to read on certain pages. Thanks in advance... Robert. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif
Re: [newbie] Browser Fonts...
don't forget once you've selected what font you want to be presented on the page you've also got to tell the browser that you want this font displayed in lieu of any other fonts that may be embeded on the page. -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Patti Wavinak wrote: Robert -- If you are using Netscape (or as some affectionately call it "Nutscrape" giggle) go to edit --- preferences appearance fonts. You can then change the font face and/or the font size to what you would like. I also check the "Use my default fonts, overriding" Hope this helps :-) Patti Registered Linux User #184611 Original Message On 9/3/00, 8:07:50 AM, Robert Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [newbie] Browser Fonts...: Hi, when i'm surfing on the net all the fonts on web page's are tiny and a horrible font type, i can put up with it but if anybody knows how to change them, i would be grateful, there kinda hard to read on certain pages. Thanks in advance... Robert. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [newbie] Browser Fonts...
Here is my preference for my browser fonts; I use my default encoding: Western (iso-8859) Variable Width Font: Helvetica (Adobe) Size 14.0 Fixed Width Font: Courier (Adobe) Size 14.0 allow scaling box selected and I set "Use my default fonts, overriding document-specified fonts" This has allowed me to have very satisfactory viewable and very legible fonts that I don't have to quint my eyes to read. Sincerely, Al Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't forget once you've selected what font you want to be presented on the page you've also got to tell the browser that you want this font displayed in lieu of any other fonts that may be embeded on the page. -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Patti Wavinak wrote: Robert -- If you are using Netscape (or as some affectionately call it "Nutscrape" giggle) go to edit --- preferences appearance fonts. You can then change the font face and/or the font size to what you would like. I also check the "Use my default fonts, overriding" Hope this helps :-) Patti Registered Linux User #184611 Original Message On 9/3/00, 8:07:50 AM, Robert Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [newbie] Browser Fonts...: Hi, when i'm surfing on the net all the fonts on web page's are tiny and a horrible font type, i can put up with it but if anybody knows how to change them, i would be grateful, there kinda hard to read on certain pages. Thanks in advance... Robert. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail
Re: [newbie] Browser of Choice
You're out of luck then. You can't change the option of what browser opens when you click a link in KMail. You're just going to have to copy the link and paste into a Netscape window. Thanks for the reply. I am using KMail. Will have to look into the other mailer you mentioned. Will do as you suggested with chmod, but your reply begs the question. What do I know about chmod, so it is off to man, chmod land. See you on the other side. :) On Sat, 13 May 2000, you wrote: On Fri, 12 May 2000, Bob wrote: When I clicka link in Mail Client the KFM file manager opens. A nice little browser, just can't access it from my desktop. What I would like is to be able to select Netscape as my browser of choice. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Browser of Choice
Thanks for the reply. I am using KMail. Will have to look into the other mailer you mentioned. Will do as you suggested with chmod, but your reply begs the question. What do I know about chmod, so it is off to man, chmod land. See you on the other side. :) On Sat, 13 May 2000, you wrote: On Fri, 12 May 2000, Bob wrote: When I clicka link in Mail Client the KFM file manager opens. A nice little browser, just can't access it from my desktop. What I would like is to be able to select Netscape as my browser of choice. What mail client are you using? Pine? Mutt? Elm? KMail? Balsa? Mahogany? If you want to use Netscape Mail and this happens, for me it would translate to this: open a terminal type 'chmod 01777 /var/spool/mail/Bob' (without quotes) and ENTER. if that does not do the trick, type: su enter root password chmod 01777 /var/spool/mail/Bob exit Good luck! Paul )0(---)0( Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]]-)0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] Browser of Choice
Hi ~ Can I just say, I'm a newbie to Linux and I'm a home-user, not a Sys Admin. But I think you'll find that if you su to root, cd to /var/spool/mail/ and type: chmod -R 777 * Then that should solve the problem. For details of what this is doing, see the man (or info) pages on chmod. ttfn, Del --- Bob wrote: When I clicka link in Mail Client the KFM file manager opens. A nice little browser, just can't access it from my desktop. What I would like is to be able to select Netscape as my browser of choice. When I attempt to invoke Netscape's mail the following error message appears: "Can't move mail unable to write to /var/spool/mail/Bob Permission denied. It continues: For the internal movemail method to work, we must be able to lock files. On many systems, this is best accomplished by making that directory be mode 01777. If that is not not possible, then an external setgid/setuid movemail program must be used. All I can say is HUH??? Your advise please
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On Sun, 7 May 2000, Andrew Scotchmer wrote: Hi again, Can anyone help with this question as I need it for a newspaper article I am writing about the Linux system. Is there any way root can view the web browsers history content of a particular user or how long a connection has been for? For the history, it's really simple : each user's history is in his $HOME/.netscape/history.list file. This file (as ANY other file) is of course accessible by root. About the lenght of the connection, could you be more precise, and tell what exactly you want to know? If you are talking about monitoring each tcp connection, (ie : watch "which computer is accessing which internet site"), this can be done with netsat. I beleive, and I don't know if you agree, that one area in which Linux can grow is with the security it offers to parents who worry over how much time is spent by their children surfing the net and what it is they are viewing. Of course there are programs that stop particular material and sites being viewed, but my experience of them whilst in windows was less than impressive. Sure! Again, you monitor each connection currently in use with netstat and you can setup a firewall to precise that "This computer cannot have access to This site" or "Nobody can access this computer on the ftp port" and things like that. The tool to set it up is called "ipchains" and has recently been discussed on this list. Err, I won't even tell you my feelings about windows in that matter... :-) (anyway this is not the place to discuss about it.) Therefore with the concern that is being voiced about the internet's content and the lack of control parents have over what their children can view (in England anyway and I presume elsewhere) I feel that this is an area that Linux can exploit. By showing parents that if they owned the root account they are free to view the files and actions of their children and even dis-allow permission to the internet if they are on a night out and worried that their fifteen year old, or worse, their baby sitter, may be running up a huge bill on the telephone, may be one way to increase the interest and popularity of both Linux and the open source movement. This is true. But at the moment, this kind of monitoring requires usually a knowledge about TCP/IP and a "rather deep" (but not TOO deep, yet) understanding of the OS that most people are not ready to afford. I think it's just because they are kind of "afraid" of comuters, and don't want to spend the time needed to learn how it all works (just my point of view!!!). Nevertheless, I'm sure that soon, developpers will create tools to make all this easier. I'm not in favour of the "to make it work, just click here, and click here" philosophy (cfr KDE), but I realize that it could help some people. Well sorry it's been so long winded but your comments on my question or on the subject as a whole would be appreciated. Well, I think that if you are going to write about linux (in a positive way!! ;-) ) in a magasine or any publication, it's worth the time to read and answer you. Keep on spreading the good word! HTH Flupke PS : Maybe you could mention freeBSD, openBSD, and such. Those are other free unix operating systems, but they require a somewhat deeper knowledge of computers and networks. -- Andrew Blackburn England --Learning at the deep end--
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Well the kfm browser in KDE can be used to a point, although it does not have java or frames, it is useable for text and simple graphics. see http://www.kde.org Netscape for Linux has its ups and downs, and requires a very fast machine with alot of memory minimum 64Megabytes, and can crash alot. http://www.netscape.com Mozilla (an offshoot from Netscape?) is still a toddler and needs much work but from what I have experienced is coming right along and looks like it will be stable someday. http://www.mozilla.org Opera I dont know much about except that its still a baby and not really ready for use. lynx is for text browsing only, when you don't care about the graphics and such, if you just want to view text information. On Fri, 07 Apr 2000, Sami A. Kutbi mewed: What Internet browsers can be used with LINUX? Thanks for the help -- My new linux web server with Apache http://kittypuss.dnydns.org Sign up for ClickDough and get paid to surf the web. http://secure.clickdough.com/servlets/cr/CRSignup.po?referral_id=kittypuss
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So far as I know the main players are Netscape, Mozilla, and Lynx. So, nothing good I'm afraid. -Original Message- From: Sami A. Kutbi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 April 2000 21:24 To: Newbie Subject: [newbie] Browser What Internet browsers can be used with LINUX? Thanks for the help
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On Fri, 07 Apr 2000, you wrote: What Internet browsers can be used with LINUX? Thanks for the help obviously netscape then mozzila there lynx but it's text based only mozzilla (which is netscape under a diff name ) and opera but your best bet unfortunatley is netscape there's also net reality which claims to be a browser but when i tried to open web addy's with it it wouldn't and any links in it's virtual world opened in netscape GET THE BEST FREE INTERNET ACCESS * Free Email * Free Support * Software* * No Credit Check * Privacy Guaranteed* GOTO http://www.HomeFreeWeb.com
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There's netscape 4.7 and 6.0, and a bunch of others. A good resource - goto www.cnet.com, at the top click on linux - theres a message board at the bottom, with a question "lightweight browsers" -- has a bunch of 'em listed. --- "Sami A. Kutbi" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What Internet browsers can be used with LINUX? Thanks for the help __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
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21 differnt Linux browsers: http://www.linux.trix.net/browsers.en.htm And heres' a few more: http://www.webreview.com/pub/2000/02/04/feature/index4.html However the main ones are Netscape and Mozilla for graphics, and Lynx for text-based browsing. What Internet browsers can be used with LINUX? Thanks for the help -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
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On Fri, 7 Apr 2000 22:04:56 +0100, you wrote: So far as I know the main players are Netscape, Mozilla, and Lynx. So, nothing good I'm afraid. Opera is in the Alpha phase of its development right now; I think its available at http://www.opera.com -Original Message- From: Sami A. Kutbi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 April 2000 21:24 To: Newbie Subject: [newbie] Browser What Internet browsers can be used with LINUX? Thanks for the help peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com
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Oh, please. Never ever give someone the advice to use --force with rpm. I totally screwed up my old redhat 5.2 that way, about a year ago. Instead, identify and download the package that would satisfy these dependencies and install it first. Or just put 'em on the same line alltogether like this: rpm -Uvh netscape-file dependency-file On Mar 28 Anthony Huereca wrote: You must download this file: ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/updates/6.0/i386/netscape-common-4.72-6.i386.rpm and then you can choose either communictor (the full thing, browser+email+newsreader): ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/updates/6.0/i386/netscape-communicator-4.72-6.i386.rpm or for just the browser: ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/updates/6.0/i386/netscape-navigator-4.72-6.i386.rpm use "rpm -Uvh the_netscape_file" to upgrade. Or if that doesnt' work (I think it may give you dependency errors), try "rpm --force -Uvh the_netscape_file" which file(s) do I download for the 4.72 update... will it work on Mandrake...seeing as most drake files... are of the i586.rpm format... steve harris wrote: Someone asked earlier about browsers. Not really anything other than Netscape. Mozilla is getting better though, M14 is the latest I think. This 4.72 Netscape is better on my old machine than the 4.61 and 4.70 "stable" versions. Download the 4.72 stable versions from this ftp site. ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/updates/6.0/i386/ The single file versions from the Netscape site itself always seemed to be unstable. fwiw steve -- Rial Juanhttp://nighty.ulyssis.org e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Belgiumtel:(++32) 89/856533 ulyssis system admininstrator http://www.ulyssis.org The little critters in nature; they don't know they're ugly. That's very funny... A fly marying a bumble-bee... Sign the petition at http://www.libranet.com/petition.html Help bring us more Linux Drivers
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You don't need the '--force' option, just put the three files in one directory and type 'rpm -Uvh *.rpm' and there won't be a dependency problem because you're installing all at the same time. *note* If you install Netscape 128 bit version, it doesn't allow you to install both communicator and navigator, navigator is built into communicator. You'll need to uninstall the old navigator and just install the common and communicator packages - confusing? This may also be the case with the standard version, I haven't tried (I'm using the 128 bit version). Try using all three packages first, and if you have a problem installing, try leaving out the navigator package. Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Rial Juan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 4:48 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] browser Oh, please. Never ever give someone the advice to use --force with rpm. I totally screwed up my old redhat 5.2 that way, about a year ago. Instead, identify and download the package that would satisfy these dependencies and install it first. Or just put 'em on the same line alltogether like this: rpm -Uvh netscape-file dependency-file On Mar 28 Anthony Huereca wrote: You must download this file: ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/updates/6.0/i386/netscape-common-4.72-6.i 386.rpm and then you can choose either communictor (the full thing, browser+email+newsreader): ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/updates/6.0/i386/netscape-communicator-4. 72-6.i386.rpm or for just the browser: ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/updates/6.0/i386/netscape-navigator-4.72- 6.i386.rpm use "rpm -Uvh the_netscape_file" to upgrade. Or if that doesnt' work (I think it may give you dependency errors), try "rpm --force -Uvh the_netscape_file" which file(s) do I download for the 4.72 update... will it work on Mandrake...seeing as most drake files... are of the i586.rpm format... steve harris wrote: Someone asked earlier about browsers. Not really anything other than Netscape. Mozilla is getting better though, M14 is the latest I think. This 4.72 Netscape is better on my old machine than the 4.61 and 4.70 "stable" versions. Download the 4.72 stable versions from this ftp site. ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/updates/6.0/i386/ The single file versions from the Netscape site itself always seemed to be unstable. fwiw steve -- Rial Juanhttp://nighty.ulyssis.org e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Belgiumtel:(++32) 89/856533 ulyssis system admininstrator http://www.ulyssis.org The little critters in nature; they don't know they're ugly. That's very funny... A fly marying a bumble-bee... Sign the petition at http://www.libranet.com/petition.html Help bring us more Linux Drivers
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Give me a few minutes and I'll send the exact address. Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Murray Strome" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] browser Out of curiosity, where did you find an rpm version of the 128 bit version of Netscape 4.71? On the Red Hat site, I can find one for 4.71, and the standard regular version of 4.72. At the Netscape site, I can find the 128 bit version of 4.72, but it is not in rpm format and things do not get carried over cleanly from Communicator 4.6 when using the ns install they suggest. Murray Strome Mike Tracy Holt wrote: You don't need the '--force' option, just put the three files in one directory and type 'rpm -Uvh *.rpm' and there won't be a dependency problem because you're installing all at the same time. *note* If you install Netscape 128 bit version, it doesn't allow you to install both communicator and navigator, navigator is built into communicator. You'll need to uninstall the old navigator and just install the common and communicator packages - confusing? This may also be the case with the standard version, I haven't tried (I'm using the 128 bit version). Try using all three packages first, and if you have a problem installing, try leaving out the navigator package. Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Rial Juan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 4:48 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] browser Oh, please. Never ever give someone the advice to use --force with rpm. I totally screwed up my old redhat 5.2 that way, about a year ago. Instead, identify and download the package that would satisfy these dependencies and install it first. Or just put 'em on the same line alltogether lik e this: rpm -Uvh netscape-file dependency-file On Mar 28 Anthony Huereca wrote: You must download this file: ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/updates/6.0/i386/netscape-common-4.72-6.i 386.rpm and then you can choose either communictor (the full thing, browser+email+newsreader): ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/updates/6.0/i386/netscape-communicator-4. 72-6.i386.rpm or for just the browser: ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/updates/6.0/i386/netscape-navigator-4.72- 6.i386.rpm use "rpm -Uvh the_netscape_file" to upgrade. Or if that doesnt' work (I think it may give you dependency errors), try "rpm --force -Uvh the_netscape_file" which file(s) do I download for the 4.72 update... will it work on Mandrake...seeing as most drake files... are of the i586.rpm format... steve harris wrote: Someone asked earlier about browsers. Not really anything other than Netscape. Mozilla is getting better though, M14 is the latest I think. This 4.72 Netscape is better on my old machine than the 4.61 and 4.70 "stable" versions. Download the 4.72 stable versions from this ftp site. ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/updates/6.0/i386/ The single file versions from the Netscape site itself always seemed to be unstable. fwiw steve -- Rial Juanhttp://nighty.ulyssis.org e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Belgiumtel:(++32) 89/856533 ulyssis system admininstrator http://www.ulyssis.org The little critters in nature; they don't know they're ugly. That's very funny... A fly marying a bumble-bee... Sign the petition at http://www.libranet.com/petition.html Help bring us more Linux Drivers
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get the Communicator, Common, and Navigator files...also the easiest way I found to install 4.72 was to uninstall the existing version (that way there are no version conflicts), don't worry about DIR being empty, and installing new version. The DIR not being empty means that all you bookmarks, plugins are safe. After this proceedure, my Nutscrape came up without a problem with my plugin's, and I think my bookmarks also. You might want to back-up your bookmark file first though. HTH Jaguar KompuKit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: which file(s) do I download for the 4.72 update... will it work on Mandrake...seeing as most drake files... are of the i586.rpm format... steve harris wrote: Someone asked earlier about browsers. Not really anything other than Netscape. Mozilla is getting better though, M14 is the latest I think. This 4.72 Netscape is better on my old machine than the 4.61 and 4.70 "stable" versions. Download the 4.72 stable versions from this ftp site. ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/updates/6.0/i386/ The single file versions from the Netscape site itself always seemed to be unstable. fwiw steve __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- ===KompuKit=== Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED]Lowell, Mass. Web Designer http://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer:http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M-F 6pm-12am,S+S 12pm-12am EST) ===KompuKit=== Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
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which file(s) do I download for the 4.72 update... will it work on Mandrake...seeing as most drake files... are of the i586.rpm format... steve harris wrote: Someone asked earlier about browsers. Not really anything other than Netscape. Mozilla is getting better though, M14 is the latest I think. This 4.72 Netscape is better on my old machine than the 4.61 and 4.70 "stable" versions. Download the 4.72 stable versions from this ftp site. ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/updates/6.0/i386/ The single file versions from the Netscape site itself always seemed to be unstable. fwiw steve __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- ===KompuKit=== Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED]Lowell, Mass. Web Designer http://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer:http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M-F 6pm-12am,S+S 12pm-12am EST) ===KompuKit===
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You must download this file: ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/updates/6.0/i386/netscape-common-4.72-6.i386.rpm and then you can choose either communictor (the full thing, browser+email+newsreader): ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/updates/6.0/i386/netscape-communicator-4.72-6.i386.rpm or for just the browser: ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/updates/6.0/i386/netscape-navigator-4.72-6.i386.rpm use "rpm -Uvh the_netscape_file" to upgrade. Or if that doesnt' work (I think it may give you dependency errors), try "rpm --force -Uvh the_netscape_file" which file(s) do I download for the 4.72 update... will it work on Mandrake...seeing as most drake files... are of the i586.rpm format... steve harris wrote: Someone asked earlier about browsers. Not really anything other than Netscape. Mozilla is getting better though, M14 is the latest I think. This 4.72 Netscape is better on my old machine than the 4.61 and 4.70 "stable" versions. Download the 4.72 stable versions from this ftp site. ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/updates/6.0/i386/ The single file versions from the Netscape site itself always seemed to be unstable. fwiw steve __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- ===KompuKit=== Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED]Lowell, Mass. Web Designer http://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer:http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M-F 6pm-12am,S+S 12pm-12am EST) ===KompuKit=== -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Press any key to continue and any other key to quit
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The i386 files run fine on a kernel that is i586, it is backwards compatible usually. Get the common and communicator two files if you want email and newsgroups. Get the common and navigator two files if you want a browser only. Get the 4.72 files, not 4.7 Install the common first, which will uninstall the original also. The install teh corresponding second one you need. I run the Kpackage to do my work in Mandrake. Not the update facility. netscape-common-4.72-6.i386.rpm (must have) netscape-communicator-4.72-6.i386.rpm (email and browser and news) netscape-navigator-4.72-6.i386.rpm (browser only) I use these files on a MacMillan 6.0 system which is i586. steve Original Message Follows From: KompuKit [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] browser Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 20:06:42 -0500 which file(s) do I download for the 4.72 update... will it work on Mandrake...seeing as most drake files... are of the i586.rpm format... steve harris wrote: Someone asked earlier about browsers. Not really anything other than Netscape. Mozilla is getting better though, M14 is the latest I think. This 4.72 Netscape is better on my old machine than the 4.61 and 4.70 "stable" versions. Download the 4.72 stable versions from this ftp site. ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/updates/6.0/i386/ The single file versions from the Netscape site itself always seemed to be unstable. fwiw steve __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- ===KompuKit=== Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED]Lowell, Mass. Web Designer http://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer:http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M-F 6pm-12am,S+S 12pm-12am EST) ===KompuKit=== __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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Murray Strome wrote: OK I give up! I went to the Mandrake Cooker site and could not fine the 4.72 rpms -- can you please give us a more specific location? Thanks. Murray Strome Michael Holt wrote: Just go to the Mandrake Cooker site and download the 4.72 rpms (common, communicator and navigator) then use kpackage to install them Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] KompuKit wrote: which file(s) do I download for the 4.72 update... will it work on Mandrake...seeing as most drake files... are of the i586.rpm format... steve harris wrote: Someone asked earlier about browsers. Not really anything other than Netscape. Mozilla is getting better though, M14 is the latest I think. This 4.72 Netscape is better on my old machine than the 4.61 and 4.70 "stable" versions. Download the 4.72 stable versions from this ftp site. ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/updates/6.0/i386/ The single file versions from the Netscape site itself always seemed to be unstable. fwiw steve Sorry 'bout that! First, you should probably bookmark these pages because you'll want to visit frequently for updates (actually if you sign up as a developer from the Mandrake home page, you'll get a copy in your email of all the new updates): ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/contrib/RPMS ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS The specific locations of the files you need are: ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS/netscape-common-4.72-1mdk.i586.rpm ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS/netscape-navigator-4.72-1mdk.i586.rpm ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS/netscape-communicator-4.72-1mdk.i586.rpm In case the above links get wrapped to your window size, make sure that you type each one as a complete line, no spaces. You need all three files, and then you can install with kpackage Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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MurrayI don't know about cooker, but I downloaded them from a crypto mirror site. http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/fcrypto.php3 Alan Murray Strome wrote: OK I give up! I went to the Mandrake Cooker site and could not fine the 4.72 rpms -- can you please give us a more specific location? Thanks. Murray Strome Michael Holt wrote: Just go to the Mandrake Cooker site and download the 4.72 rpms (common, communicator and navigator) then use kpackage to install them Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] KompuKit wrote: which file(s) do I download for the 4.72 update... will it work on Mandrake...seeing as most drake files... are of the i586.rpm format... steve harris wrote: Someone asked earlier about browsers. Not really anything other than Netscape. Mozilla is getting better though, M14 is the latest I think. This 4.72 Netscape is better on my old machine than the 4.61 and 4.70 "stable" versions. Download the 4.72 stable versions from this ftp site. ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/updates/6.0/i386/ The single file versions from the Netscape site itself always seemed to be unstable. fwiw steve
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Someone asked earlier about browsers. Not really anything other than Netscape. Mozilla is getting better though, M14 is the latest I think. This 4.72 Netscape is better on my old machine than the 4.61 and 4.70 "stable" versions. Download the 4.72 stable versions from this ftp site. ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/updates/6.0/i386/ The single file versions from the Netscape site itself always seemed to be unstable. fwiw steve __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
