Re: [newbie] Divx movies -- yes or no?!
On Tuesday 04 June 2002 04:56 am, John Richard Smith wrote: You are absolutely correct, I simply applied LM8.2's own Mplayer version which came with the distro which is Mplayer v 0.50-3asp . Now this is no good you are saying? If so which particular version would be better and does it have to be tar ball versions, are there no rpm 's that are just as good ? Yes, tarball, as Mplayer's authors have strongly discouraged anyone making rpm's from their source (PLF use to). The latest (.90pre4) is at http://www.MPlayerHQ.hu/homepage/just remember to compile with ./configure --disable-gcc-checking as the authors also have strong feelings about usin gcc-2.96, mistakenly thinking that all 2.96 versions are RedHat's. Best movie program ... imature authors. FWIW, I've noticed that some .avi's or .mpg's I have play fine usin the open source 'nv' driver, but fail miserably if I have the closed source secret evil unsecureable buggy half a$$ed binary only 'nvidia' driver enabled. El cheapo Abit Gef2, but I suspect also other cards, YMMV ; -- Tom BrinkmanCorpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Divx movies -- yes or no?!
On Wednesday 05 June 2002 16:05, you wrote: On Wednesday 05 June 2002 08:03 am, s wrote: On Wednesday 05 June 2002 08:51 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Ok I found mplayer-0.90pre4-fr1.src.rpm,but as soon as I start to recompile:- [root@localhost pk]# rpm --rebuild mplayer-0.90pre4-fr1.src.rpm Installing mplayer-0.90pre4-fr1.src.rpm error: failed build dependencies: So now I'm stuck. John I ain't never had any luck with plf's files. You're better off going to mplayer's site and download the tarball. jmo, -s I havt'a agree, at least for mplayer. While I always had better results with the PLF mplayer rpms, that has reversed since mplayer .60. FWIW, all the deps John listed are also at the PLF d/l site, but if IIRC I still had trouble getting the src.rpm to compile and produce a working player. I think that was with .90pre2 tho. So now I use the tarball ; -- I've lost the thread about changing my compiler version, which one do I have to have. John John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Divx movies -- yes or no?!
Although there is a lot of talk that the version of gcc that comes with Mandrake works perfectly, I beg to differ. At least with mencoder and lame. Both are needed if you are planning of encoding DivX movies. As far as just playing films goes, yes, the --disable-gcc-checking works fine... but it was when I started trying to encode my own that things started going wrong. I wasn't getting sound, or was, but just hisses and buzzes, and mencoder wasn't functioning properly. After an install of the gcc 3.0.4 all the problems vanished and now it works perfectly ;-) On 7 Jun 2002, John McQuillen wrote: On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 23:00, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday 05 June 2002 06:18 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: I've lost the thread about changing my compiler version, which one do I have to have. John Type 'gcc --version' in a terminal. That'll probly return '2.96'. When Red Hat 7.0 was released, it had a real buggy 2.96 version. Mandrake's 2.96 is completely different. So to get around mplayer's authors rants about gcc 2.96, compile their source with ./configure --disable-gcc-checking make su (give root password) make install My experience with MPlayer is that it does not play avi's properly when compiled with gcc 2.96 (YMMV). Anyway, it can't hurt compiling with the developer's preferred kernel, can it? I could not aggree more. Yes I was also stubborn, but after hours of %$#^# around, I realised that there is no real cheat to this problem... just upgrade / downgrade. They would not put such an emphasis on it if it wasn't true. I compiled it using: ./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-gui --cc=gcc-3.0.4 make su (root password) make install And it works beautifully. Yeah, it sure does. It brought a whole new concept to the multimedia role of Linux I think. Finally a descent player that supports a LOT, is fast and very stable. It does take a lifetime to learn and keep up with the ever changing encoding properties, but it's woprth every minute of it =) Greetings Ralph -- Homepage: http://tuxpower.f2g.net/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Divx movies -- yes or no?!
On Friday 07 June 2002 10:08 am, Ralph Slooten wrote: Although there is a lot of talk that the version of gcc that comes with Mandrake works perfectly, I beg to differ. At least with mencoder and lame. Both are needed if you are planning of encoding DivX movies. Beg all y'a want partner ;~ $ which mencoder /usr/local/bin/mencoder $ which lame /usr/bin/lame 'lame' came from 'notlame-3.91-3plf' (http://plf.zarb.org/) and can't be published for world wide legal reasons. ( See also http://www.mp3dev.org/mp3/ ) 'mencoder' was _from_ the mplayer source. As to gcc 2.96, you're seriously misinformed. Google might be your friend, that or http://www.mandrakeforum.org/article.php?sid=642lang=en Sorry if the links don't work, this is _real_ old news ;p As far as just playing films goes, yes, the --disable-gcc-checking works fine... but it was when I started trying to encode my own that things started going wrong. After an install of the gcc 3.0.4 all the problems vanished and now it works perfectly ;-) Problems are best approached as USER, then hardware or software, mostly USER. As Charles mentioned in this (similar thread ?), I'd suggest only the strong of heart attempt usin anything but gcc 2.96 with current Mandrake distros (8.x). You will incur glibc and source problems. Current (sort'a stable) gcc is 3.1.1, and your kernel and libs (apps too) weren't made with it. Now all y'a gotta do is wonder what you did break believ'n mplayer author rants 'bout Red Hat's 2.96 -- Tom BrinkmanCorpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Divx movies -- yes or no?!
On Thursday 06 June 2002 03:38, you wrote: I've lost the thread about changing my compiler version, which one do I have to have. John John Richard Smith well, you can use any, but if you use Mandrake's default you will have to use an extra parameter no make the ./configure not check it. anyhow, they recommend 2.95, or any version 3.0.1 and above. your Mandrake CD's include a gcc version ( not installed by default ) that works fine. i think it's 3.0.4 or something. HTH Damian Well, I seem to have, gcc-cpp v2.96-0.76mdk gcc v2.96-0.76mdk gcc3.0 v3.0.4-2mdk (gnu compiler) gcc3.0-cpp v3.04-2mdk so any of these should be OK ? It doesn't seem to matter then that so many compiler versions are present at once, they don't get confused then ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Divx movies -- yes or no?!
On Thursday 06 June 2002 06:59 am, John Richard Smith wrote: On Thursday 06 June 2002 03:38, you wrote: I've lost the thread about changing my compiler version, which one do I have to have. John John Richard Smith well, you can use any, but if you use Mandrake's default you will have to use an extra parameter no make the ./configure not check it. anyhow, they recommend 2.95, or any version 3.0.1 and above. your Mandrake CD's include a gcc version ( not installed by default ) that works fine. i think it's 3.0.4 or something. HTH Damian Well, I seem to have, gcc-cpp v2.96-0.76mdk gcc v2.96-0.76mdk gcc3.0 v3.0.4-2mdk (gnu compiler) gcc3.0-cpp v3.04-2mdk so any of these should be OK ? It doesn't seem to matter then that so many compiler versions are present at once, they don't get confused then ? John Why naw, it ain't gonna get confused. The default appears to be handled by a link in /etc/alternatives. Change the link to change the default compiler. Also many configure scripts allow you to specify which compiler to use with the switch --cc= (I think that's it, do a ./configure --help to get exact syntax). Shoot, just go for it and worry after you get an error (but that's just me: untar, read README INSTALL, then go for it!). using --disable-gcc-checking --enable-gui --disable-runtime-cpudetection is my usual formula, that way I don't have to worry about it complaining or my risking the compiler by goofing with it. Anyway, someone should make a howto for this mplayer as there are sooo many questions about it here and in the ngs. -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Divx movies -- yes or no?!
On Thu, 6 Jun 2002 06:24:46 -0500 s [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I seem to have, gcc-cpp v2.96-0.76mdk gcc v2.96-0.76mdk gcc3.0 v3.0.4-2mdk (gnu compiler) gcc3.0-cpp v3.04-2mdk so any of these should be OK ? It doesn't seem to matter then that so many compiler versions are present at once, they don't get confused then ? John Why naw, it ain't gonna get confused. The default appears to be handled by a link in /etc/alternatives. Change the link to change the default compiler. Also many configure scripts allow you to specify which compiler to use with the switch --cc= (I think that's it, do a ./configure --help to get exact syntax). Shoot, just go for it and worry after you get an error (but that's just me: untar, read README INSTALL, then go for it!). using --disable-gcc-checking --enable-gui --disable-runtime-cpudetection is my usual formula, that way I don't have to worry about it complaining or my risking the compiler by goofing with it. It is best to leave the default compiler set to that with which the kernel was compiled which in 8.2 was gcc-2.9.6 the mplayer build problem has been discussed numerous times. The aversion it has for 2.9.6 is because of RH using a pre 2.96 and calling it 2.9.6. This is not the case with mandrake so the --disable-gcc-checking option can be used without problem. Should you still prefer to do the build with gcc3.0 then; Open a terminal that you can set aside to be used for building with gcc3.0 su to root and enter # export CC=gcc-3.0.4 From that point, unless you install a new kernel any program built from That terminal will use gcc3.0 Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Divx movies -- yes or no?!
On Wednesday 05 June 2002 06:18 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: I've lost the thread about changing my compiler version, which one do I have to have. John Type 'gcc --version' in a terminal. That'll probly return '2.96'. When Red Hat 7.0 was released, it had a real buggy 2.96 version. Mandrake's 2.96 is completely different. So to get around mplayer's authors rants about gcc 2.96, compile their source with ./configure --disable-gcc-checking make su (give root password) make install -- Tom BrinkmanCorpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Divx movies -- yes or no?!
On Wednesday 05 June 2002 00:07, you wrote: On PLF you can find mplayer-gui rpm, both compiled and source Smiley Ok I found mplayer-0.90pre4-fr1.src.rpm,but as soon as I start to recompile:- [root@localhost pk]# rpm --rebuild mplayer-0.90pre4-fr1.src.rpm Installing mplayer-0.90pre4-fr1.src.rpm error: failed build dependencies: libdvdread-devel is needed by mplayer-0.90pre4-fr1 SDL-devel is needed by mplayer-0.90pre4-fr1 divx4linux is needed by mplayer-0.90pre4-fr1 lame-devel is needed by mplayer-0.90pre4-fr1 libvorbis-devel is needed by mplayer-0.90pre4-fr1 [root@localhost pk]# Now there are lots of rpms with similar sounding names either installed or on LM8.2 distro discs but none are what is needed here. They all appear to be the wrong versions. So now I'm stuck. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Divx movies -- yes or no?!
On Tuesday 04 June 2002 06:13, you wrote: I found a small DivX trailer file to download and got it to work with the linux DivX movie player. It would not work with Mplayer for some reason. The name of the file that I downloaded was: Contact.zip which when unzipped (linux extract prog)became two files Contact_movie.avi divx.log So far, I cannot find any sites to download full length movies,seems like this field needs a audiogalaxy type setup. Let me guess: You didn't intall the DivX codecs first, or download libavcodec to add the the tarball of Mplayer (CVS versions)? Otherwise it should have worked I guess.. in fact I know. Actually I have never seen a player that supports so many different file formats. DivX was just one of the main ones, and trust me... it DOES work great ;-) Ralph You are absolutely correct, I simply applied LM8.2's own Mplayer version which came with the distro which is Mplayer v 0.50-3asp . Now this is no good you are saying? If so which particular version would be better and does it have to be tar ball versions, are there no rpm 's that are just as good ? Also, thank you all for your replies , there is certainly something to follow up here. thanks. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Divx movies -- yes or no?!
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 10:56:29 +0100 John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 04 June 2002 06:13, you wrote: I found a small DivX trailer file to download and got it to work with the linux DivX movie player. It would not work with Mplayer for some reason. The name of the file that I downloaded was: Contact.zip which when unzipped (linux extract prog)became two files Contact_movie.avi divx.log So far, I cannot find any sites to download full length movies,seems like this field needs a audiogalaxy type setup. Let me guess: You didn't intall the DivX codecs first, or download libavcodec to add the the tarball of Mplayer (CVS versions)? Otherwise it should have worked I guess.. in fact I know. Actually I have never seen a player that supports so many different file formats. DivX was just one of the main ones, and trust me... it DOES work great ;-) Ralph You are absolutely correct, I simply applied LM8.2's own Mplayer version which came with the distro which is Mplayer v 0.50-3asp . Now this is no good you are saying? If so which particular version would be better and does it have to be tar ball versions, are there no rpm 's that are just as good ? Also, thank you all for your replies , there is certainly something to follow up here. thanks. John OOooh yeah i remember Mandrake's Mplayer. yuck. it even doesn't look like the real Mplayer. well, you gan get the tarball for Mplayer at www.mplayerhq.hu dowload it and if you like a GUI remember to configure it with the --enable-gui switch. you can get an RPM in Penguin Liberation Front http://plf.zarb.org/ search for it there, you'll find it. However, i've notice a little performance decrease when i use the RPM version. compiling the source in your own machine gives the program better speed. HTH Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Divx movies -- yes or no?!
On Tuesday 04 June 2002 11:29, you wrote: You are absolutely correct, I simply applied LM8.2's own Mplayer version which came with the distro which is Mplayer v 0.50-3asp . Now this is no good you are saying? If so which particular version would be better and does it have to be tar ball versions, are there no rpm 's that are just as good ? Also, thank you all for your replies , there is certainly something to follow up here. thanks. John OOooh yeah i remember Mandrake's Mplayer. yuck. it even doesn't look like the real Mplayer. well, you can get the tarball for Mplayer at www.mplayerhq.hu dowload it and if you like a GUI remember to configure it with the --enable-gui switch. you can get an RPM in Penguin Liberation Front http://plf.zarb.org/ search for it there, you'll find it. However, i've notice a little performance decrease when i use the RPM version. compiling the source in your own machine gives the program better speed. Damian Thanks Damian, Look, you obviously have tons more experience, than me, with this app. here is what I have been able to find so far. divx avifile-0.7.6-20020508.tgz avifile-utils-0.7.7-1.i386.rpm divx-player-installer/ avifile-0.7.7-1.i386.rpmavifile-utils-0.7.7-3.i386.rpm divx-player-installer.tar.gz avifile-0.7.7-20020523.tgz divx4linux-20011025.tgz libdivxdecore-0.4.7-3.i686.rpm avifile-0.7.7-3.i386.rpmdivx4linux-20020418/ libdivxdecore-devel-0.4.7-3.i686.rpm avifile-devel-0.7.7-1.i386.rpm divx4linux-20020418.tgz libdivxdecore-static-0.4.7-3.i686.rpm avifile-devel-0.7.7-3.i386.rpm divx4linux501-20020418.tgz rippers/ mplayer mplayer-0.50-20011101.2.src.rpm MPlayer-0.50-3.asp.src.rpm MPlayer-0.90pre4.tar.bz2 MPlayer-0.50-3.asp.i586.rpm MPlayer-0.90pre3.tar.bz2 vcd vcd-0.3.5-3mdk.i586.rpm vcd-0.3.5-3mdk.src.rpm rippers drip-0.6.7-dag.1.src.rpm Video-DVDRip-0.40.tar.gz Video-DVDRip-0.41_02.tar.gz Video-DVDRip-0.30-1mdk.i686.rpm Video-DVDRip-0.41_01.tar.gz Video-DVDRip-0.41_03.tar.gz -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Divx movies -- yes or no?!
Yeah, I make my own RPM's for personal use, however I suggest you download the tarball and work on it from there. You should upgrade your GCC though, and I suggest to the gcc 3.0.4 which is on your Mandrake 8.2 CD's. The standard GCC is messed up I'm afraid, and although compiling everything (well almost) else causes no problems, 0.9.6 has quite a gew mmx / mxx / whatever... can't remember .. problems ;-) If I remember correctly I had to symlink /usr/bin/cc to /usr/bin/gcc afterwards, but if you are going to upgrade GCC, delete totally gcc-0.9.6 first, including the devel file. You can bypass this by using the --disable-gcc-checking, however if you want to use Mencoder properly with DivX, upgrade. I had the same problems with Lame (for MP3 audio in the films). At first it's a drag to do it all, but once you have it working you will realise why MPlayer stands at Number 1 on the Popular statistics on Freshmeat... even above the Linux Kernel ;-) If you run into big problems, first reffer to the documentation included in the tarball, and whatever you do, do NOT ask stupid questions on the MPlayer Mailing list... they have this great way of flaming people to a crisp ;-) I guess I can understand it to a point, as many questions get asked so many times though... and they do get tired answering the same questions over and over and over and over and over again... so maybe that's why their standard answer has become RTFM. Everything as I said is well documented, however if you descide not to replace GCC 0.9.6 with a later or earlier version, then don't even bother asking questions on their site =) Good luck and reading ;-) Greetings Ralph On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, John Richard Smith wrote: On Tuesday 04 June 2002 06:13, you wrote: I found a small DivX trailer file to download and got it to work with the linux DivX movie player. It would not work with Mplayer for some reason. The name of the file that I downloaded was: Contact.zip which when unzipped (linux extract prog)became two files Contact_movie.avi divx.log So far, I cannot find any sites to download full length movies,seems like this field needs a audiogalaxy type setup. Let me guess: You didn't intall the DivX codecs first, or download libavcodec to add the the tarball of Mplayer (CVS versions)? Otherwise it should have worked I guess.. in fact I know. Actually I have never seen a player that supports so many different file formats. DivX was just one of the main ones, and trust me... it DOES work great ;-) Ralph You are absolutely correct, I simply applied LM8.2's own Mplayer version which came with the distro which is Mplayer v 0.50-3asp . Now this is no good you are saying? If so which particular version would be better and does it have to be tar ball versions, are there no rpm 's that are just as good ? Also, thank you all for your replies , there is certainly something to follow up here. thanks. John -- Homepage: http://tuxpower.f2g.net/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Divx movies -- yes or no?!
Thanks Damian, Look, you obviously have tons more experience, than me, with this app. dunno about tons, maybe a couple of pounds after spending a lot of time messing around with it. here is what I have been able to find so far. snip ..it didn't show when i looked for it under categories, but i ran a search for mplayer and found ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/PLD/current/dists/ra/PLD/i386/PLD/RPMS/mplayer-0.90pre4-2.i386.rpm however i was unable to find the 'gui' RPM i got from them the other day.. so this package will probably install the commandline version only. ( looks like they had to take the Mplayer RPMs off sight. as you may already know, Mplayer developers do not build/support/recommend/allow Mplayer precompiled binaries. ) at this point i should probably recommend you to download the source from mplayer's homepage and compile. it's the only way to know it will work. anyway, try this download and see if it works for you. post back if you encounter new problems or decide to compile from source, or if you can't find the right commands to make Mplayer work. Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Divx movies -- yes or no?!
On Tuesday 04 June 2002 12:18 pm, you wrote: however i was unable to find the 'gui' RPM i got from them the other day.. so this package will probably install the commandline version only. On Mplayers' site, they stay to download the source RPM and rebuild it to get a GUI via RPM Did you try the penguin site for a GUI version? Maybe they have one... -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Divx movies -- yes or no?!
On Friday 31 May 2002 23:36, you wrote: DivX is not the same as the now defunct Circuit City DVD competitor wannabe Divx. DivX (also called DivX:), I believe it is) is a form of video compression. So no, you can not play your Circuit City Divx disc on Linux (or anywhere else for that matter). At least you have a nice Abyss coaster. ;) Vince I found a small DivX trailer file to download and got it to work with the linux DivX movie player. It would not work with Mplayer for some reason. The name of the file that I downloaded was: Contact.zip which when unzipped (linux extract prog)became two files Contact_movie.avi divx.log So far, I cannot find any sites to download full length movies,seems like this field needs a audiogalaxy type setup. However, I would like to know whether Linux has a programme to convert Commercial DVD format to the Divx format which as I understand it is MP4 which is easily written to CD by an ordinary writer.I just proved it to be the case with the abovementioned file. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Divx movies -- yes or no?!
By old Divx movies.. you are referring to DivX 3.x ? Yeah sure... afaik all players for linux that support DivX can play it well. I personally use MPlayer, which supports something like 50 different formats, including all versions of DivX (even the latest 5.something), asf, mpg and so on. There is a lot of documentation on their site and in the tarballs about how it works, so I won't waiste my time writing pages of repeated text ;-) Greetings Ralph On Fri, 31 May 2002, Miark wrote: I've been to many sites trying to figure out if these old Divx movies can be played in Linux, but I can't seem to find a straight answer. Can they, or can't they? If so, how? Miark -- Homepage: http://tuxpower.f2g.net/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Divx movies -- yes or no?!
DivX is not the same as the now defunct Circuit City DVD competitor wannabe Divx. DivX (also called DivX:), I believe it is) is a form of video compression. So no, you can not play your Circuit City Divx disc on Linux (or anywhere else for that matter). At least you have a nice Abyss coaster. ;) Vince On Fri, 2002-05-31 at 15:44, Miark wrote: Ralph Slooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith: By old Divx movies.. you are referring to DivX 3.x ? I have _The_Abyss_ here. I dunno what version of Divx it is. This is the rental deal, mind you. Maybe that goes without saying. Yeah sure... afaik all players for linux that support DivX can play it well. I personally use MPlayer, which supports something like 50 different formats, including all versions of DivX (even the latest 5.something), asf, mpg and so on. It also has about 50 dependencies. I thought Xine was a pain in the ass. MPlayer is the pain-in-the-ass king of installations. There is a lot of documentation on their site and in the tarballs about how it works, so I won't waiste my time writing pages of repeated text ;-) What other players will read a divx movie rental? Miark On Fri, 31 May 2002, Miark wrote: I've been to many sites trying to figure out if these old Divx movies can be played in Linux, but I can't seem to find a straight answer. Can they, or can't they? If so, how? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
