Re: [newbie-it]

2001-01-18 Per discussione Andrea Celli

meucci wrote:
 
 dopo un black-out il mio sistema linux mdrk 7.2 non sia avvia pi dicendo
 /dev/hda6:unexpected inconsistency, run fsck manually
 (i.e.,without-a or-p options)
 e ora ?che f?

run fsck manually  = lancia "fsck" a mano ( da una console)

ossia, entra nel sistema con in modalita` console/single
e lanci "fsck" senza le opzioni -a o -p.


ciao, andrea




Re: [newbie-it] configurazione masterizzatore

2001-01-18 Per discussione Andrea Celli

 Fiore Adolfo wrote:
 
 Ho recentemente installato Mandrake 7.2 su un Pentium III 450. Al
 termine dell'installazione il sistema vedeve regolarmente il
 masterizzatore ide Waitec e l'altro cdrom utilizzato per la lettura.
 Dopo aver settato la scheda audio Sb 16 (non riconosciuta
 automaticamente ma manualmente utilizzando soundconfig ) il sistema mi
 segnala che  cambiato qualcosa nella configurazione e non vede pi il
 masterizzatore impedendomi di entrare e settare
 opportunamente X-Cd-Roast. Cosa pu essere successo ? 

forse sndconfig ha assegnato lo stesso IRQ del masterizzatore alla
scheda audio. (?)

Prova a vedere da kde-control-center (c'e` un'apposita utility)
come sono assegnati gli irq e riconfigura la Sb16 assegnandogli un irq
libero.

ciao, Andrea




[newbie-it] I: Urgesi moduli

2001-01-18 Per discussione Germano




A chiunque abbia una mandrake 7.1 con kernel 2.2.15:
 Sareste cos gentili da inviarmi 3 moduli contenuti nella
 directory /lib/modules/2.2.15-4mdk/misc, ve ne sarei immensamente grato (i
 miei li ho erroneamente sovrascritti con 3 pi vecchi per installare un
 modem asuscom isdn pci).
 I moduli incriminati sono: -1)   isdn.o
   - 2) dss1_divert.o
   -3) hisax.o
 Grazie a chiunque voglia perdere tempo a fare ci!
 Germano






[newbie-it] java runtime environment

2001-01-18 Per discussione Francesco Speranza



Ho scoperto Linux solo da poche settimane e sto 
cercando di iniziare i primi passi . Ho installato piu' volte Mandrake 7.2 
nel tentativo di installare correttamente Start office 5.2 . Infatti nel 
programma di installazione si richiede il Java runtime environment che permette 
il corretto funzionamento ma non so proprio come istallarlo. Domande : 
posso installare Java utilizzando i CD di mandrake ? ese si che file devo 
trovare ? .
Ho scaricato il file compresso JDK 1.1.8 richiesto 
da Startoffice ma non so come fare per istallarlo . Chi puo' aiutarmi 
??



Re: [newbie] Netscape 6 and Mime Types SOLVED!!!

2001-01-18 Per discussione Traci Collins

Thanks, I haven't had time to do it all yet but I'm glad to get a
comprehensive answer that definitely looks like it has gotten all the
bases covered.

Traci

Altoine Barker wrote:
 
 I would like to shift to Netscape 6 instead of 4.7x because of its
 ability to manage multiple e-mail accounts for a single Linux user
 (under 4.7x I had to keep a separate user account for each e-mail
 account). My problem is that the scripts which come with RealPlayer8 for
 mime and plugin support only work with 4.7x and not 6. Has anyone
 already gone through the process of getting the mime types to work
 properly with Netscape 6? Are there simple edits that could be made to
 the scripts which will make them work with Netscape 6? There are dozens
 of mime types that mention realplayer in the 4.7x configuration and I
 would really like to avoid adding them one by one under 6. Also six
 seems to have some problems with editing or delete mime-types where you
 made a mistake. Does anyone know the name and location of the file that
 holds this information so that I can manually delete an error that I
 can't seem to remove any other way. Thanks. Any help would be
 appreciated.
 
 --
 Traci Collins
 http://www.rof.net/wp/tcollins/traci.html
 
 Traci,
 
 I found a webpage on linuxnewbie.org that had just what you and I were looking for! 
It was written by Avatar but I've did some modifications for our period of 
instruction. They were written for Netscape 4.7x but I found them compatible with 
Netscape 6 (ie v.6 or v.7)
 
 RealPlayer basically is running the show using these MIME types;
 
 1. Open up Netscape and click on "Edit" and then "Preferences."
 
 2. On the new screen that appears, click the little arrow next to "Navigator" and 
then "Helper Applications."
 On the right, you should see a list of all the mime types already in the system. 
This is where we will be adding in the info to configure the G2 player.
 
 3. Click the "New type..." button to bring up a new mime tpye.
 
 4. Enter the follwing settings,
 ***REMOVE THE CHECK IN THE CHECK BOX***
 then click the "OK" button to save them.
 
 Description of type: RealMedia File
 File extension: .rm
 MIMEType: application/vnd.rn-realmedia
 Application to use: /usr/bin/realplay %s
 
 The description doesn't matter, but the rest does. Make sure to click the box nextto 
"Application" to enable G2, and don't forget the "%s" part or it will just open G2 
and not stream. If G2 installed somewhere other than /usr/bin/realplay, replace that 
part with your path. Another thing to watch is that you put the "." in front of the 
suffix.
 
 5. Add all of the following using the steps 3  4.
 
 Description of type: RealVideo File
 File extension: .rv
 MIMEType: video/vnd.rn-realvideo
 Application to use: /usr/bin/realplay %s
 
 Description of type: RealAudio File
 File extension: .ra, .ram
 MIMEType: audio/vnd.rn-realaudio
 Application to use: /usr/bin/realplay %s
 
 Description of type: RealAudio File 2
 File extension: .ra, .ram
 MIMEType: audio/x-pn-realaudio
 Application: /usr/bin/realplay %s
 
 *Special Note*
 
 I couldn't get Netscape 6 to recognize both RealAudio files but I have had no 
problems... yet! :)
 
 ***REMOVE THE CHECKS IN THE CHECK BOXES***
 
 Now, your G2 player should work great with Navigator 6. But say you hop over to 
live365.com and you want to listen for awhile. Well, live365.com sends you a mp3 play 
list, not a standard stream. This is nice if you're sitting behind a firewall and 
your administrator has blocked streamed data. To get this up and running on you Linux 
box, add this last part into Netscape, again using steps 3  4.
 
 Description of type: Live365
 File extension: .pls
 MIMEType: audio/x-scpls
 Application to use: /usr/bin/realplay %s
 
 So, now maybe you want to hop over to MP3.com and have a lsiten over there.
 No problem. look down the list for "MPEG Audio." Once you find it, click on it, then 
click on edit. Change the follwing:
 
 Description of type:MPEG Audio
 File extension:
 MIMEType: audio/mpeg
 Application to use: /usr/bin/realplay %s
 
 ***REMOVE THE CHECK IN THE CHECK BOX***
 
 (Click OK)
 
 We have to add another one now. Follow step 3  4 to add this one in.
 
 Description of type: MPEG Audio 2
 File extension: .m3u
 MIMEType: audio/x-mpegurl
 Application to use: /usr/bin/realplay %s
 
 ***REMOVE THE CHECK IN THE CHECK BOX***
 
 (Click OK)
 
 That should do it. Now the G2 player will handle all that media from the web with 
little or no hickups. Enjoy!
 
 Cheers Everyone
 -- Al
 __
 Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at 
http://webmail.netscape.com/

-- 
Traci Collins
http://www.rof.net/wp/tcollins/traci.html




[newbie] audio software recommendations please - the more the better

2001-01-18 Per discussione Vicar In A Tutu

My dear, dear fellows, I have a question which I would very much like
answered thoroughly, extensively and possibly off-list to avoid generating
excess traffic (this address is also on the Discordian egroup, and the
postings of the two mix in a way inspired by Eris herself. 
The question is: what about audio software? (Yes, what about it?) 
Audio software. There is no need for me to start raving and ranting about
how detestable a turd Microsoft WinThroes are; however, some very decent
proggies were written for the platform. Cubase. Fruity
Loops. ReBirth. Rubber Duck, which is my absolutely favourite TB-303
emulator. Kindly relate all the information you consider relevant - you
would oblige me incredibly. I would really like to find out what noise one
can make on a Linux box. Don't point me towards Macs and BeOS - I haven't
got a bloody Mac, nor do I need one; BeOS runs black and white and
horribly on my video card, and for this reason it, too, hardly deserves
any of my attention at the moment; I'll consider it when I become
obscenely rich and invest in a new box. So: audio software for Linux,
please. All kinds. Http and ftp links to sites with rpms and cvs links a
preference, but anything goes. Thanks in anticipation, and may the hodge
and the podge be balanced in you all in the name of Eris and Saint Eddie
Izzard, amen! 

Pope Mickey the 23rd, Zee Blue Rat Ov Kaos, Patron Saint Of All Runaway
Eggdrops, Messenger of Discord, Offender Of The Faith. 






Re: [newbie] HDParm and DMA

2001-01-18 Per discussione Tom Brinkman

On Thursday 18 January 2001 01:27 am, Blomquist, Niklas wrote:
 When I turn on the UDMA the speed is increasing a lot, but I can't
 start any program. The Icons on the destop is removed when I click on
 the and the panel is gone when I click on that one...

   What does "turn on the UDMA" mean ?

   I'm guess'n you're referring to 'hdparm -d1' /dev/hd*' ?

What does  'hdparm -v /dev/hd*' say?
-- 
Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay




Re: [newbie] Broken? bad wiring? bug?? Help please.

2001-01-18 Per discussione civileme

On Wednesday 17 January 2001 17:36, you wrote:
 Duplicate entry 'append' near line 17 in file /etc/lilo.conf


 what this mean?

 my lilo.conf


 boot=/dev/hda
 map=/boot/map
 install=/boot/boot.b
 vga=normal
 default=linux
 prompt
 timeout=50
 message=/boot/message
 other=/dev/fd0
 label=floppy
 unsafe
 image=/boot/vmlinuz
 label=linux
 root=/dev/hda5
 initrd=/boot/initrd.img
 append="65532k"
 append="hdd=ide-scsi"
 read-only

It means that you cannot have two appends

make it 

append="hdd=ide-scsi mem=64M"

Civileme




Re: [newbie] I'm completely lost

2001-01-18 Per discussione Kearney

I am a real Newbie too (two weeks) but have learnt a lot in that time.

Especially useful are two PDF files included on the 7.2 CDs (after
installation). First is RUTE.pdf and the other is the Mandrake Reference
Manual (another pdf). If you search for *.pdf you will find them. I printed
them out (400 pages plus) and have put them in a folder. You should read
them at least three times and go through the examples they recommend while
reading. You will have it in no time.

Gray

- Original Message -
From: "Steve Maytum" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] I'm completely lost


 Ralph , can't help right now , but i'll try to e-mail tonight (17/01/01)
 with help. Meantime send info on your system. Regards
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 - Original Message -
 From: Ralph Avery [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 1:29 AM
 Subject: [newbie] I'm completely lost


  I've been tinkering with this Linux for some time, but I still don't
  understand it at all.  I've read the posts on this message board (All
 150+)
  every day, but everyone's completely out of my league with their
 responses.
 
  I have Mandrake Linux (I think 6.2).  I managed to get it up and
running,
 I
  can even connect to the internet.  I have no idea how I did it.  I am
 trying
  to get my sound card and NIC card to work.  I downloaded some files that
 are
  supposed to be the drivers.  They're in tar.gz format.  I've gunzipped
 them,
  and even tarred them.  I have a bunch of files now, and I have no idea
 what
  to do with them.  There's an Adobe PDF with one of them.  I downloaded
the
  latest version of Acrobat to read it.  It makes no sense.
 
  When I log out of KDE (Or any other GUI) I often lose my mouse.  The
 cursor
  goes to the extreme upper right corner, and I can't do squat after that.

  All I can do is hit Reset.  The computer's not locked up, but it won't
let
  me do anything when I return to the GUI.  I would imagine there was a
  command that could be executed which would activate the mouse again.
 
  Is there anyone out there willing to do some one-on-one tutoring, and
help
  someone who's really really trying?
 
 
 
 









Re: [newbie] Broken? bad wiring? bug?? Help please.

2001-01-18 Per discussione civileme

On Wednesday 17 January 2001 17:55, you wrote:
 On Wednesday 17 January 2001 08:20 am, Dennis Myers wrote:
  Tom Brinkman wrote:
   On Tuesday 16 January 2001 09:23 pm, Vic wrote:
   Ok I concede. how I do to get this dangbusted
   stupid cd recorder to work???
   Is there a kludge or a hack??
   Please just tell me what to type and I will do it.
   I am using mandrake 7.0-2
  
   Yes, I'm afraid there is a kludge with 7.0, solved with 7.1 and
   perfected with 7.2.  there was a fix/tutorial on Mandrakes web
   page, but it's no longer there.  Best I can remember it had to do
   with the needed "append=ide-scsi" linked wrong.
 
  The line would be  :   append="hdx=ide-scsi"   added to the lilo.conf
   I believe. I will go through my
  notes at home and see if I can confirm the location, unless someone
  else can jump in here and confirm or
  correct.

 Correct, but there was an additional problem with 7.0.  IIRC, even
 tho the ide-scsi line was properly implemented, the hd* or the /cdrom2
 was improperly, or not even linked to /dev/scd0. Again, IIRC, the fix
 was to delete the offending link and then to create a new correct link.
 The tutorial use to reflect this, but since 7.0 is getting almost
 ancient, the tutorial no longer reflects the needed link fix for 7.0.
 It's got to be in the ML archives somewhere.  If I'm the only one that
 remembers it this way, I'll try to hunt up the fix, but I can't get to
 it right now.  'Course a sure fix would be to upgrade to 7.2 ;)

This may not be as good as a tutorial but it shows how to solve the general 
problem.

http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg56553.html

Vic please please please test the effects on scanbus with that ZIP removed if 
it doesn't show up after you fix the append.  and make sure you run 
/sbin/lilo after you do fix it.  7.0 and later editions had some issues with 
ZIPs in a few of the possible configurations.

Civileme







[newbie] found out the problem with mandrake

2001-01-18 Per discussione Arman Zakaryan

ok i think i found out the prob with linux mandrake. i have a mobo with
integrated video display sh*t. i dont use that one anymore. i use a 3dfx
voodoo3 2000 pci. how can i set it to use that display card rather then the
built in on the mobo? can you please be specific in the command i am
supposed to put?





Re: [newbie] CDR

2001-01-18 Per discussione civileme

On Wednesday 17 January 2001 22:37, you wrote:
 Stupid question time:
 I have a Memorex 1622 CDR that is working just fine in Linux (Mandrake
 7.2). The problem is, I can only write to it as the root (superuser).
 When I have a regular cd in it (already written), the permissions read wide
 open all the way across, but if I put a blank in the permissions change and
 the write permission is only enabled in root.  If I log in as non root and
 try to write, (xtoaster), the program comes back with a permission denied
 message.
 It works great as root though.  I've never been able to write to a cd and
 surf the web, play games, etc in Windoze 98.   Whenever  I wrote to a cd,
 and then did something else,crash city big time.  Linux seems to be rock
 solid.  Just switch to a differnet desktop and go for it.  Life is good.
 Thanks in advance,
 DJW

Just login as a normal user and raise a terminal window.  Then 

$ su -
password: (your root password)
# (toaster command)
Then go about your business  cdwriting is a root privilege, but you don't 
have to login as root to use it, only set user id to root in a virtual 
terminal.

the $ is the normal system prompt the # is root prompt, (Toaster command ) is 
one of the following

xcdroast
gtoaster
kisocd
cdrecord (followed by a list of options for the more 'l33t folks)

Civileme





SV: [newbie] HDParm and DMA

2001-01-18 Per discussione Blomquist, Niklas

I'm guess'n you're referring to 'hdparm -d1' /dev/hd*' ?

That is correct, when I'm turns this on, the system become unstable and do
strange things...
 
 What does  'hdparm -v /dev/hd*' say?
 Multcount = 16 on
I/O Support = O
unmaskirg = 0
using_dma = 0
keepsettings = 0
nowerr = 0
readonly = 0
readahead = 8

This is before I change anything.

I can tweek it a little like:

hdparm -X66 -u1 -c3 -m16 /dev/hda

But I only get 9Mbs, when i turn on the -d1, i get 35, but I can't use the
computer...

/N


 -- 
 Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
 




RE: [newbie] audio software recommendations please - the more the better

2001-01-18 Per discussione ron peake

Hi
Loved your email and sense of humour. Can't help you.
Oh dear.

-- Original Message --

My dear, dear fellows, I have a question which I would very much like
answered thoroughly, extensively and possibly off-list to avoid generating
excess traffic (this address is also on the Discordian egroup, and the
postings of the two mix in a way inspired by Eris herself.
The question is: what about audio software? (Yes, what about it?)
Audio software. There is no need for me to start raving and ranting about
how detestable a turd Microsoft WinThroes are; however, some very decent
proggies were written for the platform. Cubase. Fruity
Loops. ReBirth. Rubber Duck, which is my absolutely favourite TB-303
emulator. Kindly relate all the information you consider relevant - you
would oblige me incredibly. I would really like to find out what noise
one
can make on a Linux box. Don't point me towards Macs and BeOS - I haven't
got a bloody Mac, nor do I need one; BeOS runs black and white and
horribly on my video card, and for this reason it, too, hardly deserves
any of my attention at the moment; I'll consider it when I become
obscenely rich and invest in a new box. So: audio software for Linux,
please. All kinds. Http and ftp links to sites with rpms and cvs links
a
preference, but anything goes. Thanks in anticipation, and may the hodge
and the podge be balanced in you all in the name of Eris and Saint Eddie
Izzard, amen!

Pope Mickey the 23rd, Zee Blue Rat Ov Kaos, Patron Saint Of All Runaway
Eggdrops, Messenger of Discord, Offender Of The Faith.












Re: [newbie] Increasing font size in Netscape on Mandrake 7.2

2001-01-18 Per discussione blinddog

Netscape does fonts badly they are small even on 800x600. I have used the 
following in Mandrake 7.0  Mandrake 7.2.
The main problem is that Netscape wants to use 75dpi fonts which is typically 
too small. You can fix this by specifying the appropriate X resources in your 
.Xdefaults file:

Netscape*documentFonts.sizeIncrement: 20
Netscape*documentFonts.xResolution*iso-8859-1: 100
Netscape*documentFonts.yResolution*iso-8859-1: 100

The number 100 can be chosen arbitrarily. For example, if you like your fonts 
really large than you could use 150 instead.

After changing .xdefaults logout and reboot your machine.

Andrew D

On Wednesday 17 January 2001 10:14, you wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Netscape, under the VIEW menu, the options to "Increase Font" and
  "Decrease Font" are grayed out.
 
  How are these activated?  Video resolution is set to 1024x768 and thus
  some of the fonts are pretty small.
 
  What's the solution to this problem?
 
  Thanks,
 
  =Keith
 
  __
  Do You Yahoo!?
  Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail.
  http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

 What version of X are you running and are your fonts servers started at
 bootup?

 Cheers
 -- Al
 __
 Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at
 http://webmail.netscape.com/




[newbie] Increasing Netscape Fonts

2001-01-18 Per discussione blinddog

Netscape does fonts badly they are small even on 800x600. I have used the 
following in Mandrake 7.0  Mandrake 7.2.
The main problem is that Netscape wants to use 75dpi fonts which is typically 
too small. You can fix this by specifying the appropriate X resources in your 
.Xdefaults file:

Netscape*documentFonts.sizeIncrement: 20
Netscape*documentFonts.xResolution*iso-8859-1: 100
Netscape*documentFonts.yResolution*iso-8859-1: 100

The number 100 can be chosen arbitrarily. For example, if you like your fonts 
really large than you could use 150 instead.

After changing .xdefaults logout and reboot your machine.

Andrew D

On Wednesday 17 January 2001 10:14, you wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Netscape, under the VIEW menu, the options to "Increase Font" and
 "Decrease Font" are grayed out.

 How are these activated? Video resolution is set to 1024x768 and thus
 some of the fonts are pretty small.

 What's the solution to this problem?

 Thanks,

 =Keith

 __
 Do You Yahoo!?
 Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail.
 http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

What version of X are you running and are your fonts servers started at
bootup?

Cheers
-- Al
__
Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at
http://webmail.netscape.com/




Re: [newbie] Re: soundcard

2001-01-18 Per discussione cstoh

How do you do a Google search?






[newbie] No sound can't find in archives

2001-01-18 Per discussione Vic

I installed 7.2 today.

No sound.

Why?

Soundblaster Awe64 ISA

sndconfig

'command not found'

where did it go?

Where is the sound?




Re: [newbie] Re: soundcard

2001-01-18 Per discussione Vic

Go to http://www.google.com and
there should be a little space for
putting the search words in.

Then press the Enter key or click
the Search button

On Thursday 18 January 2001 05:09, cstoh wrote:
 How do you do a Google search?




Re: [newbie] No sound can't find in archives

2001-01-18 Per discussione Vic

Ok I got it now,
somehow, sndconfig did not get installed,
so went and downloaded the rpm,
now have sound.

Weird, must have been a funky
iso image.


On Thursday 18 January 2001 05:33, you wrote:
 do it as root and before you startx
 hth

 Vic wrote:
  I installed 7.2 today.
 
  No sound.
 
  Why?
 
  Soundblaster Awe64 ISA
 
  sndconfig
 
  'command not found'
 
  where did it go?
 
  Where is the sound?




Re: [newbie] No sound can't find in archives

2001-01-18 Per discussione -michael-

do it as root and before you startx
hth

Vic wrote:

 I installed 7.2 today.

 No sound.

 Why?

 Soundblaster Awe64 ISA

 sndconfig

 'command not found'

 where did it go?

 Where is the sound?





Re: [newbie] Patch

2001-01-18 Per discussione s

Hey Tom,
Thanks for the heads up.  That nt is kinda cool.  The installer even put a 
link in my menu.  I haven't used it yet, but it opens to a nice comfortable 
gui.  I'll have to read up on later when I have more time, as I've never used 
downloader before (with 99% being spyware for windows  all).  

-s

On Thursday 18 January 2001 03:43 am, you wrote:


Well yeah I'd suggest one if you're wantin to grab several files
 unattended.  I suspect you're gettin refused with a 'need password'
 mesg or somethin like that, for no other reason than the site is
 overloaded, ie, too many users.  "Specially lately with all the
 clueless Christmas computers getin online.   BUT IMNSHO...

Browers, any of them, really suck as ftp agents.  If you're in the
 habit of d/l'ing a lot (and what linux user isn't?), use a specific ftp
 utility.  Many like to use the CL. Not me.  I like a Russian app called
 Webdownloader (nt, it's available on any Mandrake /contrib mirror,
 nt-1.19-1mdk ).  It does retries, resumes, and you can throttle it so
 you can surf, email, newsgroups while it's d/l'ing. It's idiot simple
 to configure and use, but mainly it works so well it's BulletProof FTP




Re: [newbie] Re: soundcard

2001-01-18 Per discussione Mark Weaver

On Thursday 18 January 2001 06:09 am, you wrote:
 How do you do a Google search?

http://www.google.com
-- 
Mark

"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," 
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."

Linus Torvalds




Re: [newbie] Increasing font size in Netscape on Mandrake 7.2

2001-01-18 Per discussione Altoine Barker

type this command in to see

rpm -qa | grep XFree

and look for anything with "fonts" in the package name.

Also, do you have your system setup as a dual boot?

P.S. Sorry for taking so long to reply but I had killed my X server trying to compile 
it and had to trace my errors. Now all I need to do is figure out how to use the cvs 
for tdfx!

Laters
-- Al


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Al,
 
 OK, X -version shows Xfree 3.3.6, and Mach64 accelerated server for
 ATI,  Patchlevel 1.
 
 Now, how do I check for font servers?  I tried:
 
   ps -ef | grep font
 
 and got nothing but 'grep font' which I expected.  So, how to check for
 font servers under Mandrake 7.2 ?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Keith
 
 
 --- Altoine Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   On Netscape, under the VIEW menu, the options to "Increase Font"
  and
   "Decrease Font" are grayed out.
   
   How are these activated?  Video resolution is set to 1024x768 and
  thus
   some of the fonts are pretty small.
   
   What's the solution to this problem?
   
   Thanks,
   
   =Keith
   
   __
   Do You Yahoo!?
   Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. 
   http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
   
   
  
  What version of X are you running and are your fonts servers started
  at bootup?
  
  Cheers
  -- Al
  __
  Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at
  http://webmail.netscape.com/
  
 
 
 __
 Do You Yahoo!?
 Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online!
 http://photos.yahoo.com/
 
 
__
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Re: [newbie] KDE2 for Mandrake 7.1

2001-01-18 Per discussione Christopher Molnar

If your a new linux user. Don't! Upgrade to 7.2. The dependencies require a 
bunch of additional packages and stuff. Also, 2.1 should be out in a month so 
this gives you plenty of time to upgrade :-)

On Wednesday 17 January 2001 06:18, Cristiano de Lima Logrado wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm a new user ... and i'd like to know where can I get the KDE2 for
 Mandrake 7.1 ?

 Thanks,

 C.Logrado


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[newbie] No hard disk

2001-01-18 Per discussione Micha POZARZYCKI

Hi everybody!

I've got a problem with Mandrake 7.2 installation. All goes well
until the programme asks me for existing SCSII driver. Recording
to the manual of my motherbard (ASUS VIA 761 Chipset) there is a
driver Promise. There is no such a driver in the list I have to
choose from. Anyway I try to say  
no SCSII device and then the programme say there is no valid
device where the file system can be placed, check for hardware
error. My hard disk is
Seagate Barracuda IDE 30,8GB, so I assume that thye error is not
connected
with possible SCSII device error that I probably do. An
additional information is that my BIOS doesn't detect hard disk,
the field Primery Master say None when booting. Also in the Bios
Setup when I choose autodetect Primery Master the Bios doesn't
recognize any data (like PIO level or UDMA level). When I set
Secondary Master autodetect it chooses CD-recorder and gets the
information on PIO or UDMA. 
Sorry if I haven't included enough information - I'm not to good
at it. I am very determined to install Linux on my desktop, but
can't deal with that stuff. If it helps the windows 98 goes
almost well and it recognizes all my three partitions of the
drive, which have been made by firm I bought the computer from
(thay used Partition Magic or some stuff that sounds similiar,
made three partitions 10GB each, and the partitions are in the
format compatibile with DOS or smth.)

Appreciate any comment

michal





RE: [newbie]

2001-01-18 Per discussione Jose M. Sanchez


This happens because you are not running Sndconfig "properly".

Sound config needs to be run on a system that has -NO- sound components
already loaded.

Get out of Xwindows altogether.

Make sure that any window managers or X sessions are "killed" and you are at
a prompt at the console logged in as root.

Now type

# lsmod

You'll get back.

3c59x  20176   1  (autoclean)
ipx13472  15  (autoclean)
awe_wave  159040   0
sb 34752   0
uart401 6384   0  [sb]
sound  58368   0  [awe_wave sb uart401]
soundlow 464   0  [sound]
soundcore   2800   7  [sb sound]
st 24496   0  (unused)
ipip5104   0  (unused)
ip_gre  6688   0  (unused)
ip_masq_portfw  2608   0  (unused)
ip_masq_user3552   0  (unused)

And maybe a bunch of others, including the emu10K1 which does not show up on
my listing.

Now you have to remove them in "reverse" order.

I.E. For my example above

# rmmod awe_wave
# rmmod sb
# rmmod uart40
# rmmod sound
# rmmod soundlow
# rmmod soundcore

In your case you'll also have to

# rmmod emu10k1

If at any point you get a device "busy" error, then you tried to remove a
module without first removing another one that depends upon it. That is you
removed one in the wrong order.

Try again until all the sound related modules are gone...

Type "lsmod" to double check.

Finally when they all disappear, run SNDCONFIG again.

This will cure the problem.

-JMS
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Matt Schroeder
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie]


Hi everyone,

I'm trying to get my sound blaster live X-gamer working.

I got some ideas from some people here yesterday to try and went home last
night and really went nuts on trying to get it to work.

I even yanked my network card and swapped slots with it to see if that
helped.

Anyway, here is a website with the screen dump of the error that sndconfig
gives me...

http://ariesplanet.tripod.com/sndconfig_screenshot.htm

(I only did this in a KDE environment to get the screen capture.  I did it
logged in as root like you're supposed to without X)

If anyone knows anything about this I'd be grateful to hear what you have to
say.

--Matt






RE: [newbie] audio software recommendations please - the more the better

2001-01-18 Per discussione Jose M. Sanchez


Try: http://www.bright.net/~dlphilp/linuxsound/

Let me know what you think!

-JMS
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vicar In A Tutu
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 3:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] audio software recommendations please - the more the
better


My dear, dear fellows, I have a question which I would very much like
answered thoroughly, extensively and possibly off-list to avoid generating
excess traffic (this address is also on the Discordian egroup, and the
postings of the two mix in a way inspired by Eris herself. 
The question is: what about audio software? (Yes, what about it?) 
Audio software. There is no need for me to start raving and ranting about
how detestable a turd Microsoft WinThroes are; however, some very decent
proggies were written for the platform. Cubase. Fruity
Loops. ReBirth. Rubber Duck, which is my absolutely favourite TB-303
emulator. Kindly relate all the information you consider relevant - you
would oblige me incredibly. I would really like to find out what noise one
can make on a Linux box. Don't point me towards Macs and BeOS - I haven't
got a bloody Mac, nor do I need one; BeOS runs black and white and
horribly on my video card, and for this reason it, too, hardly deserves
any of my attention at the moment; I'll consider it when I become
obscenely rich and invest in a new box. So: audio software for Linux,
please. All kinds. Http and ftp links to sites with rpms and cvs links a
preference, but anything goes. Thanks in anticipation, and may the hodge
and the podge be balanced in you all in the name of Eris and Saint Eddie
Izzard, amen! 

Pope Mickey the 23rd, Zee Blue Rat Ov Kaos, Patron Saint Of All Runaway
Eggdrops, Messenger of Discord, Offender Of The Faith. 







Re: [newbie] local unix-win microlan

2001-01-18 Per discussione Quaylar

At 06:44 18.01.2001 +, you wrote:
How are the two machines connected? Via a hub/switch or just a single cable?
If you want to connect them with a single cable from one to the other then
this needs to be a crossover cable. An ordinary cat5 ethernet cable will not
work.


they are connected with a normal thin ethernet coaxial cable with BNC 
connectors at each end ( and they are terminated if this would be your next 
question ;) )

should work, shouldnt it ?

--quay




Chris SW
===
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Cisco, Windows NT, Linux, Samba, DNS

French  German Spoken
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- Original Message -
From: "Quaylar" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:15 PM
Subject: [newbie] local unix-win microlan


hiho,

im trying to set up a unix-win microlan (how it is called in the
mandrakeuser.org-guide) and ive followed the steps as described in the
guide at mentioned adress:

unix side :

ethernet card is recognized
eth0 modules are loaded without probs
local ip adress configured by ifconfig to 192.168.0.1
route add -net 192.168.0.0 eth0  . set
win and unix machine entries in the /etc/hosts file

win2k side

properties for local connection : TCP/IP : 192.168.0.2 netmask
255.255.255.0 (unix side too)
set DNS of my isp and entered the unix box as gateway

so far everything seems to be ok..but i cant ping the
machines...neither win from unix nor unix from win.always reaches a
timeout, has somebody a point regarding this i might have missed ?

furthermore id have a question regarding the difference between ip
masq/proxy/micro lan:

ip masq howto tells me that if one uses ip masq the server would NOT act as
a proxy and the clients would be DIRECTLY connected to the internet through
the server, although for the external network all clients would have the ip
of the server.
so how is this meant ?..what is the difference to the proxy server then
?
and can i also do connection sharing without masq but only the "win/unix
microlan" ?

would be glad if somebody can bring some light into this, cause id really
like to "understand" what im doing ;)

regards,

--quay

--
-Quaylar-
Icq# 30932448
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
! Knowledge is power 





Re: [newbie] No hard disk

2001-01-18 Per discussione Dan LaBine

Dear Micha; You can't install Mandrake, because you don't have any free
partitions left. You said that you had 3 - 10Gb partitions all formatted
with DOS? you need at least one partition UNFORMATTED for Mandrake. It will
format the partition for Linux-Mandrake while it is installing. If all 3
partitions are already formatted for DOS/Windows, there is no place for
Mandrake. Also, check the CD that came with your ASUS board. See if it has a
driver section for the Promise ATA100 adapter on the M/B. There may be a
Linux Driver on it. If your BIOS doesn't detect the drive, check the drive
to make sure that the jumpers on it are set to Master. If they are, replace
your IDE cable (it may be defective,..but probably not). Borrow another IDE
drive and see if your BIOS will detect it. If it does, there may be a
problem with your drive. In any case, you'll have to delete one partition
(the second one is your best bet) in order to make room for Mandrake. Make
sure that you back up your data first!

Good luck!

Dan LaBine
Registered Linux User #190712

- Original Message -
From: "Micha POZARZYCKI" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 8:40 AM
Subject: [newbie] No hard disk


 Hi everybody!

 I've got a problem with Mandrake 7.2 installation. All goes well
 until the programme asks me for existing SCSII driver. Recording
 to the manual of my motherbard (ASUS VIA 761 Chipset) there is a
 driver Promise. There is no such a driver in the list I have to
 choose from. Anyway I try to say
 no SCSII device and then the programme say there is no valid
 device where the file system can be placed, check for hardware
 error. My hard disk is
 Seagate Barracuda IDE 30,8GB, so I assume that thye error is not
 connected
 with possible SCSII device error that I probably do. An
 additional information is that my BIOS doesn't detect hard disk,
 the field Primery Master say None when booting. Also in the Bios
 Setup when I choose autodetect Primery Master the Bios doesn't
 recognize any data (like PIO level or UDMA level). When I set
 Secondary Master autodetect it chooses CD-recorder and gets the
 information on PIO or UDMA.
 Sorry if I haven't included enough information - I'm not to good
 at it. I am very determined to install Linux on my desktop, but
 can't deal with that stuff. If it helps the windows 98 goes
 almost well and it recognizes all my three partitions of the
 drive, which have been made by firm I bought the computer from
 (thay used Partition Magic or some stuff that sounds similiar,
 made three partitions 10GB each, and the partitions are in the
 format compatibile with DOS or smth.)

 Appreciate any comment

 michal







RE: [newbie] local lan problem

2001-01-18 Per discussione Quaylar





im experiencing the same problem.connecting a win and linux box 
directly via ethernet cards..all things configured properly but as u 
said 100% packet loss..so u r not alone..;)

--quay




At 02:04 18.01.2001 -0500, you wrote:
Post the output of:

ifconfig
route -n
cat /etc/resolv.conf

Bill


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Fireman71
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] local lan problem


I am using static ip addys on the local network, ppp connection to the isp
is dynamic. linux machine is 192.168.0.2 and the windows machines have
192.168.0.1 and .0.3. netmask on all machine is 255.255.255.0

I do not have any other network cards in the machine, 56k modem that is
external off of ttyS0. PPP works fine btw. Just the local net isnt doing
anything.

I setup the local network during installation of LM7.1 as i have seen
several people post that it is usually better to do it then and my own
personal experience has been that its also easier to do it then as well. I
did not setup internet connection during installation though, again in
accordance with advice that has been posted here in the past.

hostnames are all as follows and seem to be setup correctly:
192.168.0.1 - windows - comp1.possumtrot.net
192.168.0.2 - linux - comp2.possumtrot.net
192.168.0.3 - windows - comp3.possumtrot.net

Many thanks in advance,
Ian K. Harrell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Istvan Bereti
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 4:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] local lan problem


Hi,

Definitely your netcard is not properly configured on Linux.
Are you using DHCP or fixed IP-s?
Do you have an other netcard in your linx box?
Check hostname and IP addresses.
Steve

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Fireman71
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] local lan problem


No, i cannot ping from either of the win 98 machines to the linux box, nor
from linux to the windows machines but i can ping from one windows machine
to another one fine.

Ian K. Harrell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Istvan Bereti
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 3:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] local lan problem


Hi,

Can you ping from the win98 the network card of the Linux? ping ipaddr.
And also vica - versa...

BR,
Steve


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Fireman71
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 9:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] local lan problem


Trying to setup a linux machine as a firewall and web server on a lan for a
friend of mine. He also wants the linux machine to handle IP masqing.
Installed LM7.1 on a HP Vectra series 5 machine that he had purchased off
the internet to use specifically for Linux. We then put a realtek 8029 PCI
network card in, installed LM7.1 and all appeared to be good in the world,
until

Trying to access anything on the local net is impossible. 100% packet loss,
etc, etc. Currently on the lan there are two other machines both running
windows 98 and then the LM7.1 machine. Both of the windows machines can see
and talk to each other fine but they cant see the linux box.

I double and triple checked all the system settings and everything seemed to
be fine. Drakconf detected the network card, linuxconf showed that all the
values i had entered for IP Addy, netmask, etc were fine.

Thinking this might have been caused by a bad cable we tried three other
cables with no results and also tried every free spot on the hub with a
known good cable from one of the windows machines just to make sure that
there wasnt a bad connection or something in the hub.

During bootup it shows that eth0 is starting up ok and ifconfig reports that
everything seems to be there and working fine as far as i can tell.

I am completely lost at what to do to fix this problem and would appreciate
any and all advice.

One thing i did notice was that when the cable was unplugged from the
network card in the linux box or the hub the light on the card showing that
the network connection was present went off as you would expect it to. When
we plugged the cable back into the hub or the card it returned just like
everything was working normally. On the hub side the light never did come on
showing that there was a connection.

The hub is listed as being *nix compatable and I am using a similar realtek
8029 card in another linux machine at my own home with no problems.

Linux machine info in case this helps...
HP Vectra Series 5
P133 CPU
16M RAM
2.5Gig HD
Realtek 8029
SB AWE16
Generic noname (as far as i can find) SVGA video card
Fresh install of Linux Mandrake 7.1



Many thanks in 

RE: [newbie] Halt Command

2001-01-18 Per discussione Jose M. Sanchez

HALT is normally the last step of the shutdown process. 

You are not permitting your system to shut itself down properly.

Try running "shutdown" instead.

-JMS


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of AL
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 11:34 PM
To: Newbie
Subject: [newbie] Halt Command



Hi!

Running LM 7.2. The system reboots ok but when I issue the 'halt'
command it hangs up and errors/segmentation faults appear.

What is causing this?

Thanks!





RE: [newbie] DHCP Server

2001-01-18 Per discussione Jose M. Sanchez


Getting Linux to "share" your single internet connection is very simple
under 7.2.

There is a GUI interface to set this all up for you.

In 7.1 you need to do all the work yourself.

1) Edit your /etc/rc.local file

Make sure it includes the following lines:

#
#CRITICAL:  Enable IP forwarding since it is disabled by default since
#
#Redhat Users:  you may try changing the options in /etc/sysconfig/network
from:
#
#   FORWARD_IPV4=false
# to
#   FORWARD_IPV4=true
#
echo "1"  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
#
# Load up MASQ support
#
/sbin/modprobe ip_masq_ftp
/sbin/modprobe ip_masq_quake
/sbin/modprobe ip_masq_raudio
# The above three are more than enough.
# Though you might want to enable other MASQ modules as well
#
/sbin/ipchains -P forward DENY
/sbin/ipchains -A forward -s 10.0.0.0/8 -j MASQ -d 0.0.0.0/0
#

This assumes that you have an existing working internet connection of some
sort -AND- another ethernet interface connected to your internet "private"
network.

In the above case my private network is using the reserved IP address range
of

10.0.0.1 thru 10.254.254.254, far more than most people need!

My ethernet card on my internet connected linux box, that will be used to
talk to the "other" machines is at 10.0.0.1 (though any address will work).

Since I'm using a few Winblows machines:

They all have their default gateway address pointing to 10.0.0.1
They all have reserved IP addresses for their Ethernet cards starting with

Machine One: Eternet 10.0.0.10 Sub-Netmask 255.0.0.0
Machine Two: Eternet 10.0.0.11 Sub-Netmask 255.0.0.0
etc.

They DNS entries all point to the DNS server at my ISP (though you could set
up your own to get much faster responses!)

And each machine has a unique name.

Remember: (Normally, unless you REALLY know what you are doing) you should
have two connections on your Linux box, one to the internet.

The Internet Connection may be thru dialup (using PPP), a Cable Modem or DSL
(normally using a seperate ethernet card, configured as eth0), etc.

The "local" connection is seperate (in this case eth1), configured by me
manually as the second connection.

Normally the first connection gets automatically configured for you by your
DSL or Cable provider using a DHCP -CLIENT- on your machine. If you can surf
the internet you already have this set up!

That's about it.

The above configuration is considered a bit "open" since there are almost no
restrictions on what services Linux "provides" to the internet.

After you have things up and running, you can deal with cutting down the
services Linux provides to the internet and thereby increase security.

-JMS


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan Belkie
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 6:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] DHCP Server


Does anyone know of any good docs for a DHCP server setup?

I have Mandrake 7.1 Corp server installed with webmin and I want to plug the
Linux box in at my house on my DLS line and run multiple computers through
it. Maybe 3 or 4.

Any Ideas? And by t the way that corp. server install was soo stupid
easy! Yeah Mandrake!






[newbie] Enlightenment install problem

2001-01-18 Per discussione Tim Goodaire

Hi everyone,

I'm trying to install the latest version of Enlightenment. I downloaded the
tarball from ftp.enlightenment.org, untarred it and tried to do a
./configure. It said that it couldn't find my IMLIB_CONFIG. I know that I
have IMLIB_CONFIG. It's in usr/bin (which is also in my path).

I've been trying to edit the configure.in file to see if I can figure out
how to get it to find the IMLIB_CONFIG and I'm not having any luck. It
appears to be looking in $PREFIX/bin. What exactly is $PREFIX?

Anyone have any ideas of how I can get this damn thing to compile?

Tim Goodaire
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





RE: [newbie] local unix-win microlan

2001-01-18 Per discussione Jose M. Sanchez



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Quaylar
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 5:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] local unix-win microlan


hiho,

im trying to set up a unix-win microlan (how it is called in the
mandrakeuser.org-guide) and ive followed the steps as described in the
guide at mentioned adress:

unix side :

ethernet card is recognized
eth0 modules are loaded without probs
local ip adress configured by ifconfig to 192.168.0.1
route add -net 192.168.0.0 eth0  . set
win and unix machine entries in the /etc/hosts file

win2k side

properties for local connection : TCP/IP : 192.168.0.2 netmask
255.255.255.0 (unix side too)
set DNS of my isp and entered the unix box as gateway

so far everything seems to be ok..but i cant ping the
machines...neither win from unix nor unix from win.always reaches a
timeout, has somebody a point regarding this i might have missed ?

---

Being able to ping your machines across the LAN is the first important step.

This establishes that your LAN cards are correctly configured and that your
wiring is ok.

Assuming for the moment that your lan cards are correctly configured, look
again at your wiring.

Since you are using CO-AX, you -MUST- have a BNC plug at each end of the
cable and then a "T" connector.

I.E.

[=-|--|-=]
   |  |
Computer

The "[=" represents the terminator at each end.

While the -|- represents the "T" connector.

Also, I know this sounds funny, but it's true. If your cable is TOO short,
some lan cards see the unusually low resistance as an "open" connection and
shut down their transmitters.

Make sure your cable is at least 15 feet in overall length. You could add
another segment if it is too short.

Put an Ohm meter across the center ping to the shield with the cable
unplugged from the computers and you should get 1/2 the value of each
terminator's resistance.

If not you have a short or a wiring problem.

BTW: Twisted pair Ethernets are far easier to debug since the hubs normally
have lights to tell you if everything is hooked up properly.

You must start off by being able to ping the different machines...
---
Re: Proxy  Masq

Proxy and Masq are different, though in some confusing ways very similar.

With Proxy servers, the user's application "logs" into the PROXY server as a
user and submits a request to the internet. The PROXY then transmits the
request back to the client.

With proxy servers, you applications must directly support PROXY usage. Many
programs do not!

--

With MASQ, each machine believes that it is "on" the internet. That is that
it has it's very own internet connection via the Linux box, which acts as a
gateway.

What really happens, though, is that they client machine is set up to have a
"private" ip address. This private address creates packets which are not
permitted to be sent out via the internet. The internet would actually
disregard them!

Instead the packets arrive at the "gateway" (Linux box). Linux strips off
information from the packets and "repackages" them with it's own VALID IP
address, and sends them up to the internet.

When the response comes back in, Linux does the opposite.

Linux can do this VERY quickly. As far as your other computers are
concerned, they all have connections to the internet.

As far as Linux is concerned, it is "routing" masq'd packets to the
internet.

As far as your ISP is concerned, your Linux box is a very busy machine, but
you only have ONE internet connected computer.

Thus Linux is a great way to fool your ISP into believing that you only have
one machine "on" the internet.

For the most part the ISP doesn't care, since they are only supporting one
computer connection. Everyone is happy, since you pay less!

-JMS
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




---
furthermore id have a question regarding the difference between ip
masq/proxy/micro lan:

ip masq howto tells me that if one uses ip masq the server would NOT act as
a proxy and the clients would be DIRECTLY connected to the internet through
the server, although for the external network all clients would have the ip
of the server.
so how is this meant ?..what is the difference to the proxy server then
?
and can i also do connection sharing without masq but only the "win/unix
microlan" ?

would be glad if somebody can bring some light into this, cause id really
like to "understand" what im doing ;)

regards,

--quay

--
-Quaylar-
Icq# 30932448
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
! Knowledge is power 






RE: [newbie] local unix-win microlan

2001-01-18 Per discussione Quaylar



---

Being able to ping your machines across the LAN is the first important step.

This establishes that your LAN cards are correctly configured and that your
wiring is ok.

Assuming for the moment that your lan cards are correctly configured, look
again at your wiring.

Since you are using CO-AX, you -MUST- have a BNC plug at each end of the
cable and then a "T" connector.


i DO have...;)




I.E.

[=-|--|-=]
|  |
Computer

The "[=" represents the terminator at each end.

While the -|- represents the "T" connector.

Also, I know this sounds funny, but it's true. If your cable is TOO short,
some lan cards see the unusually low resistance as an "open" connection and
shut down their transmitters.


hmm.the cable is about 10 meters  (about 30ft)..so long enough i 
think .



Make sure your cable is at least 15 feet in overall length. You could add
another segment if it is too short.

Put an Ohm meter across the center ping to the shield with the cable
unplugged from the computers and you should get 1/2 the value of each
terminator's resistance.

If not you have a short or a wiring problem.


i think that the wires are ok because i used them before on 2 windows boxes 
without any problems.
and i just changed both resistors to new ones...so i think we can also 
take this out of consideration.


BTW: Twisted pair Ethernets are far easier to debug since the hubs normally
have lights to tell you if everything is hooked up properly.


ahm..i dont have a hub.i use direct connection with coax thin 
ethernet.



You must start off by being able to ping the different machines...


yeah..i know that..ip masq howto also states this.


---
Re: Proxy  Masq

Proxy and Masq are different, though in some confusing ways very similar.

With Proxy servers, the user's application "logs" into the PROXY server as a
user and submits a request to the internet. The PROXY then transmits the
request back to the client.

With proxy servers, you applications must directly support PROXY usage. Many
programs do not!

--

With MASQ, each machine believes that it is "on" the internet. That is that
it has it's very own internet connection via the Linux box, which acts as a
gateway.

What really happens, though, is that they client machine is set up to have a
"private" ip address. This private address creates packets which are not
permitted to be sent out via the internet. The internet would actually
disregard them!

Instead the packets arrive at the "gateway" (Linux box). Linux strips off
information from the packets and "repackages" them with it's own VALID IP
address, and sends them up to the internet.

When the response comes back in, Linux does the opposite.

Linux can do this VERY quickly. As far as your other computers are
concerned, they all have connections to the internet.

As far as Linux is concerned, it is "routing" masq'd packets to the
internet.

As far as your ISP is concerned, your Linux box is a very busy machine, but
you only have ONE internet connected computer.

Thus Linux is a great way to fool your ISP into believing that you only have
one machine "on" the internet.

For the most part the ISP doesn't care, since they are only supporting one
computer connection. Everyone is happy, since you pay less!

-JMS
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


hey...this is a very good explanation, ..u made the difference clear to 
me

it often happens that although one reads the how-tos u really dont 
understand certain things, that are not explained very clearly -
so thank u very much for your help ;)


--quay







Re: [newbie] Increasing font size in Netscape on Mandrake 7.2

2001-01-18 Per discussione Keith Christian

Hi Al,

rpm -qa | grep XFree sounds good.  I now have a dead video card, when
that's swapped out I'll try the command.

Thanks for all your great help.

===Keith

--- Altoine Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 type this command in to see
 
 rpm -qa | grep XFree
 
 and look for anything with "fonts" in the package name.
 
 Also, do you have your system setup as a dual boot?
 
 P.S. Sorry for taking so long to reply but I had killed my X server
 trying to compile it and had to trace my errors. Now all I need to do
 is figure out how to use the cvs for tdfx!
 
 Laters
 -- Al
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi Al,
  
  OK, X -version shows Xfree 3.3.6, and Mach64 accelerated server for
  ATI,  Patchlevel 1.
  
  Now, how do I check for font servers?  I tried:
  
ps -ef | grep font
  
  and got nothing but 'grep font' which I expected.  So, how to check
 for
  font servers under Mandrake 7.2 ?
  
  Thanks!
  
  Keith
  
  
  --- Altoine Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
On Netscape, under the VIEW menu, the options to "Increase
 Font"
   and
"Decrease Font" are grayed out.

How are these activated?  Video resolution is set to 1024x768
 and
   thus
some of the fonts are pretty small.

What's the solution to this problem?

Thanks,

=Keith

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   at bootup?
   
   Cheers
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Re: [newbie] No sound can't find in archives

2001-01-18 Per discussione civileme

On Thursday 18 January 2001 12:30, you wrote:
 I installed 7.2 today.

 No sound.

 Why?

 Soundblaster Awe64 ISA

 sndconfig

 'command not found'

 where did it go?

 Where is the sound?


the installation of alsa detects pci very well but not ISA

You do need to use sndconfig but first you need to install it

It could have been selected during install but that wasn't done but it is on 
one of the install disks Use KPackage to look at the CDs and install it then 
run it.

Civileme




[newbie] KDE2 PROBLEM

2001-01-18 Per discussione Dale Kosan



Hello,installed the KDE2 rpms and all went well.I 
did a "rpm -Uvf *.rpm --test" and it came back with no failed dependencies.I 
then installed from text console outside of x.I then did a "rpm --rebuilddb" 
followed by "update-menus -v" Once I went to log in I found a whole bunch of 
system users,no biggie,but I now only have KDE, default, and failsafe, all other 
window managers are gone. I have seen that this seems to be common, anyone have 
a fix for the bug? Should I report it and to who? Thanks for your 
time.


Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux

2001-01-18 Per discussione Adrian Smith

this will be a shock to you all, but i have an opinon here.   =)
i agree with Tom -- although i fully confess Tom is much better at saying than I am.  
probably because i am an obnoxious and arrogant and Tom isn't.

but i can't figure this one out ether, why do you guys care so much about converting 
windoze users?  should we make 18 wheelers with automatic stick shifts so that 
everyone who drives a car can drive a semi-truck?

a honda accord has a purpose.  a freightliner tractor/trailer rig has a purpose.
they are not the same purpose.

a hunting rifle has a purpose.  a 50mm vulcan cannon has a purpose.
they are not the same purpose.

windows has a purpose.  linux has a purpose.
they are not the same purpose.

use the right tool for the right job.

if i wanted linux to be like windows, why wouldn't i have just kept using windows?
i may not be the sharpest crayon in the box, but i just don't understand this.
no product can be everything to everybody.  no product.
name any one *specific* product that fills every need held by every person on the 
planet.

i think the "must be like windows" concept is a bad thing.

i'll try to stuff a sock in my mouth now.   =)


Adrian Smith
'de telepone dude
Telecom Dept.
x 7042
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9:29:15 PM 1/17/01 
  OK y'all  !!This marks the last time I'm gonna start a thread 
starting with a news wire URL, well maybe ;  Actually I thought it was 
a business story that kind'a illustrated Linux's present state, and the 
perception of.

   The first full install I did of Mandrake was ~500mb.  A current 'du 
-ch /' with my windoze drive umounted is ~4 gigs! ... and I've 
uninstalled a lot of the apps I don't use, and there's linux stuff on 
the windoze drive, not in that count.  I like it just the way it is, 
the installer that is.  What brandNewbie doesn't install several times 
before they 'settle in' ?  ...and for experienced users, it's easy, 
albeit time consuming, to install just what you want.  As much or 
little.  LM's installation let's YOU choose.  I believe there's nothin 
that needs changin.  I like the current trend in Mandrake's installs.

   As to the 'convert windoze users', and get "linux on everybody's 
desktop' vein this thread has denigrated to.  WHO CARES?  Seriously, be 
more concerned that Linux continues to attract the people that built it 
to begin with ... the people all over the world that contribute to this
free, open source, volunteer effort.  Without them, Linux is dead.  
-- 
Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay






RE: [newbie] Hard drive light always lit

2001-01-18 Per discussione Jose M. Sanchez


Some IDE hard drive/cdroms have jumpering configurations which differ from
what you expect.

I.E. the factory default may be

|--...
|.

and the user jumpers one as master

..|...
..|...

and the other as slave

.|...
.|...

however the "leftmost" jumper which was originally installed makes or breaks
the
LED problem you are seeing.

Normally this is the result of using slightly different IDE drive
technologies from two different manufacturers. It is the result of improper
jumpering, (you almost have it correct, it works but the LED stays lit) or a
bad IDE cable.

You also might have left the "cable select" jumper incorrectly set...

Rarely it's a bad IDE controller chip. If the light goes out in Windows, but
stays on in Linux it's normally one of the above.

I've seen this too. Rejumpering or changing the cable has always fixed this
problem.

-JMS

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kelly, Christopher
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 7:52 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [newbie] Hard drive light always lit


Did you build this machine yourself? Maybe you've got the LED's crossed on
the Mobo?

-Original Message-
From: Po Kwok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 7:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Hard drive light always lit


Miark wrote:

 I don't think memory is the problem--I have 384 MB!

 Any other insights?

 Miark

 - Original Message -
 From: "Irwan Hadi" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  At 11:57 PM 1/5/01 -0700, Miark wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  I dual-boot to Windoze and Mandrake 7.2. In Windoze, the
  hard drive light on my case acts as you'd expect, but in
  Linux, it _never_ turns off. Does that mean that my drive
 is
  always running, or that the hardware mechanism that
 controls
  the light just loses its mind while running Linux?
 
  Probably you need more memory, because perhaps you have
 too many services
  run at boot which consume the memory.
  to control the services, do ntsysv as a root.

tell us your hardware configuration in details.  eg. what kind of
motherboard is it?  how many internal and external devices do you have
.. etc... etc..

aston
sydney, australia





RE: [newbie] local unix-win microlan

2001-01-18 Per discussione Jose M. Sanchez


Assuming your cabling is ok, then it's time to look for trouble with Linux
vis-a-vis your ethernet cards.

First type in

lsdev

This will show something like this...

DeviceDMA   IRQ  I/O Ports

aic7xxx   5  e800-e8fe
cascade 4 2
dma  0080-008f
dma1 -001f
dma2 00c0-00df
eth0 e400-e47f
fpu  13  00f0-00ff
ide0 14  01f0-01f7 03f6-03f6 f000-f007
--- Snip ---

Notice the ethernet entry.

Make sure you see yours. IRQ does not show up, because I'm using a PCI card.

Next type

ifconfig

eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:10:5A:04:36:65
  inet addr:10.0.0.1  Bcast:10.255.255.255  Mask:255.0.0.0
  IPX/Ethernet II addr:00105A043665
  IPX/Ethernet SNAP addr:00105A043665
  IPX/Ethernet 802.2 addr:00105A043665
  IPX/Ethernet 802.3 addr:00105A043665
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:547913 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:1007164 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:403747 txqueuelen:100
  Interrupt:10 Base address:0xe400

loLink encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3924  Metric:1
  RX packets:1423 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:1423 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0

If you can see your eth0 interface, then Linux knows how to talk to it and
it is correctly configured hardware wise. The software configuration might
be in error though.

Post the output of ifconfig see I can see it.

Next type

dmesg

The output from dmesg will include information about your ethernet card like
this...

IPX Portions Copyright (c) 1995 Caldera, Inc.
3c59x.c 16Aug00 Donald Becker and others
http://www.scyld.com/network/vortex.html
eth0: 3Com 3c905B Cyclone 100baseTx at 0xe400,  00:10:5a:04:36:65, IRQ 10
  8K byte-wide RAM 5:3 Rx:Tx split, autoselect/Autonegotiate interface.
  MII transceiver found at address 24, status 786d.
  MII transceiver found at address 0, status 786d.
  Enabling bus-master transmits and whole-frame receives.

Post it as well.

Notice that dmesg displays not only the connection speed but also the type
of port the card is connected to.

It could very well be that Linux is trying to utilize an AUI or 10BaseT port
on your LAN card instead of the thinnet port.

Normally this is set up using a DOS software utility. You may have to run
the software utility for your LAN card that selects the thinnet port, and
sets the IO and IRQ for the card.

If your ethernet interface is PCI also run

lspci

to make sure it is recognized.

Also double check your netmask and gateway settings.

These are the most problematic for most users.

route -n

Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
Iface
255.255.255.255 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0  00 eth0
10.0.0.010.0.0.1255.0.0.0   UG0  00 eth0
10.0.0.00.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0  00 eth0
127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0  00 lo

Remember that your Linux box connected to the internet, should have ROUTING
active but the "default gateway" should be blank.

Your clients should have the default gateway set to the IP of the Linux
machine's local lan interface.

Post the output so I can have a look.

-JMS





Re: [newbie] KDE2 PROBLEM

2001-01-18 Per discussione -michael-

On Thursday 18 January 2001 07:02, regarding [newbie] KDE2 PROBLEM, you said:
  Hello,installed the KDE2 rpms and all went well.I did a "rpm -Uvf *.rpm
 --test" and it came back with no failed dependencies.I then installed from
 text console outside of x.I then did a "rpm --rebuilddb" followed by
 "update-menus -v" Once I went to log in I found a whole bunch of system
 users,no biggie,but I now only have KDE, default, and failsafe, all other
 window managers are gone. I have seen that this seems to be common, anyone
 have a fix for the bug? Should I report it and to who? Thanks for your
 time.


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Dale:
I have the same problem; all my users except me, root and user2 are penguins 
with program names...when I boot to KDE I get icewm, when I do default it is 
enlightenment and I assume that failsafe is a command line. I can only get 
this when i type init 5 instead of startx(which produces enlightenment).
I miss my old KDE!
-- 
~enjoy!~
-michael-




Re: [newbie] Grub Question

2001-01-18 Per discussione Philomena

Its just a text file - make sure you are root, and use whatever text editor 
you prefer. Save the file and thats that - your changes will be in effect 
when you boot.

cheers,
philomena

At 07:11 AM 1/12/2001 -0500, you wrote:
I know that this has been covered, because I remember seeing it. So, please
forgive my ignorance.

How can I edit the Grub menu after it has been installed? I know that the
list resides in /boot/grub/menu.lst. How can I edit that file?

Thanks y'all,

Chris Kelly
---
Boy of Destiny
King of Nothing






[newbie] e-mail

2001-01-18 Per discussione Kelly, Christopher

Sorry about the re-posts guys. My e-mail server at work is having trouble
and it is re-sounding the messages from the last week or so. My apologies...

Chris Kelly
---
Men are from Earth
Women are from Earth
Deal with it...





RE: [newbie] local unix-win microlan

2001-01-18 Per discussione Quaylar

At 11:17 18.01.2001 -0500, you wrote:

Assuming your cabling is ok, then it's time to look for trouble with Linux
vis-a-vis your ethernet cards.

First type in

lsdev


alright..lsdev.command not found.but i know what u are aiming 
at...so here we go  :

first : DMA

4: cascade

second : irqs:

CPU0
   0:1192243  XT-PIC  timer
   1:919  XT-PIC  keyboard
   2:  0  XT-PIC  cascade
   9:  1  XT-PIC  HiSax
  10:359  XT-PIC  eth0
  13:  1  XT-PIC  fpu
  14:  31822  XT-PIC  ide0
  15:  8  XT-PIC  ide1
NMI:  0


third : ios

-001f : dma1
0020-003f : pic1
0040-005f : timer
0060-006f : keyboard
0080-008f : dma page reg
00a0-00bf : pic2
00c0-00df : dma2
00f0-00ff : fpu
0170-0177 : ide1
01f0-01f7 : ide0
02f8-02ff : serial(auto)
0300-030f : 3c509
0376-0376 : ide1
03c0-03df : vga+
03f6-03f6 : ide0
03f8-03ff : serial(auto)
1400-1401 : HFCS isdn
f000-f007 : ide0
f008-f00f : ide1

forth : devices

Character devices:
   1 mem
   2 pty
   3 ttyp
   4 ttyS
   5 cua
   7 vcs
  10 misc
  36 netlink
  43 ttyI
  44 cui
  45 isdn
128 ptm
136 pts

Block devices:
   2 fd
   3 ide0
   9 md
  22 ide1


fifth : modules

3c509   5964   1 (autoclean)
hisax 126536   4
isdn   91604   5 [hisax]
slhc4440   1 [isdn]


these are all the outputs of cat /proc/*



This will show something like this...

DeviceDMA   IRQ  I/O Ports

aic7xxx   5  e800-e8fe
cascade 4 2
dma  0080-008f
dma1 -001f
dma2 00c0-00df
eth0 e400-e47f
fpu  13  00f0-00ff
ide0 14  01f0-01f7 03f6-03f6 f000-f007
--- Snip ---

Notice the ethernet entry.

Make sure you see yours. IRQ does not show up, because I'm using a PCI card.

Next type

ifconfig


ok..so this is my ifconfig :


eth0   Linkverkapselung:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:60:08:71:06:D9
   inet addr:192.168.0.1  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Maske:255.255.255.0
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   Empfangene Pakete:0 Fehler:0 Weggeworfen:0 berlauf:0 Rahmen:0
   Verschickte Packete:2874 Fehler:0 Weggeworfen:0 berlauf:0 
Rahmen:2874
   Kollisionen:0 Sendewarteschlangenlnge:100
   Interrupt:10 Basisadresse:0x300

ippp0  Linkverkapselung:Punkt-zu-Punkt Verbindung
   UP PUNKTZUPUNKT RUNNING NOARP  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   Empfangene Pakete:0 Fehler:0 Weggeworfen:0 berlauf:0 Rahmen:0
   Verschickte Packete:0 Fehler:0 Weggeworfen:0 berlauf:0 Rahmen:0
   Kollisionen:0 Sendewarteschlangenlnge:30

lo Linkverkapselung:Locale Schleife
   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Maske:255.0.0.0
   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3924  Metric:1
   Empfangene Pakete:2877 Fehler:0 Weggeworfen:0 berlauf:0 Rahmen:0
   Verschickte Packete:2877 Fehler:0 Weggeworfen:0 berlauf:0 Rahmen:0
   Kollisionen:0 Sendewarteschlangenlnge:0



eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:10:5A:04:36:65
   inet addr:10.0.0.1  Bcast:10.255.255.255  Mask:255.0.0.0
   IPX/Ethernet II addr:00105A043665
   IPX/Ethernet SNAP addr:00105A043665
   IPX/Ethernet 802.2 addr:00105A043665
   IPX/Ethernet 802.3 addr:00105A043665
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:547913 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:1007164 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:403747 txqueuelen:100
   Interrupt:10 Base address:0xe400

loLink encap:Local Loopback
   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3924  Metric:1
   RX packets:1423 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:1423 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0

If you can see your eth0 interface, then Linux knows how to talk to it and
it is correctly configured hardware wise. The software configuration might
be in error though.


hmm--so maybe in sw.




Post the output of ifconfig see I can see it.

Next type

dmesg


ok..here is dmesg with all msgs that belong to eth0:


eth0: 3c509 at 0x300 tag 1, 10baseT port, address  00 60 08 71 06 d9, IRQ 10.
3c509.c:1.16 (2.2) 2/3/98 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ippp, open, slot: 0, minor: 0, state: 
ippp_ccp: allocated reset data structure c1e75800
eth0: Setting Rx mode to 1 addresses.this is because i set route in 
rc.local at bootup




The output from dmesg will include information about your ethernet card like
this...

IPX Portions Copyright (c) 1995 Caldera, Inc.
3c59x.c 16Aug00 Donald Becker and others
http://www.scyld.com/network/vortex.html
eth0: 3Com 3c905B Cyclone 

Re: [newbie] Supermount and new kernel

2001-01-18 Per discussione Francois Massonneau

  I've just installed kernel 2.2.18 and I have 3 things that don't work
  as before :
  - Kheader : I solved this one by adding a "0" in the kheader file and
  it works now.
  - Supermount : I do not have supermount anymore. How can I do to get
  it back ?
  - The alsa drivers I have installed with my previous kernel, don't
  work. Does that mean I have to reinstall them ?
  I'm running Mandrake 7.1
  Thank you. Francois
 
Whoa which 2.2.18?  2.2.18-1mdk ?  and was it the ready made, or 
 did you compile it, and from mdk source, or vanilla source ... with the 
 appropriate 7.1 patches ?  I believe you can see I'm gettin at there 
 can be endless variables here

I downloaded the one I found on kernel.org named
"linux-2.2.18.tar.bz2"
I compiled it, but I do not know about the "appropriate 7.1 patches"
you're speaking about.
Francois




Re: [newbie] KDE2 PROBLEM

2001-01-18 Per discussione Dennis Myers

I've not noticed that I lost all the other window managers, I'll have to 
check that, but I do have a user
named Tina on the login gui.  So does anyone know what that is all 
about, and is it safe to delete Tina as a
user?  Probably need to report to Mandrake and  kde.org, it is a bug 
accountable to one or the other. Could
look on the KDE web site to see if the things already been reported. It 
still shows up in the KDE2.1beta as welll
as the so called stabel KDE2.0.

-michael- wrote:

 On Thursday 18 January 2001 07:02, regarding [newbie] KDE2 PROBLEM, you said:
 
  Hello,installed the KDE2 rpms and all went well.I did a "rpm -Uvf *.rpm
 --test" and it came back with no failed dependencies.I then installed from
 text console outside of x.I then did a "rpm --rebuilddb" followed by
 "update-menus -v" Once I went to log in I found a whole bunch of system
 users,no biggie,but I now only have KDE, default, and failsafe, all other
 window managers are gone. I have seen that this seems to be common, anyone
 have a fix for the bug? Should I report it and to who? Thanks for your
 time.
 
 
 
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 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 Content-Description: 
 
 Dale:
 I have the same problem; all my users except me, root and user2 are penguins 
 with program names...when I boot to KDE I get icewm, when I do default it is 
 enlightenment and I assume that failsafe is a command line. I can only get 
 this when i type init 5 instead of startx(which produces enlightenment).
 I miss my old KDE!


-- 
Dennis Myers Registered Linux user #180843





Re: [newbie] KDE2 PROBLEM

2001-01-18 Per discussione -michael-



Christopher Molnar wrote:

 I just got back from a Sun Developers conference in Boston :-) (have to spy
 on the other people every once in a while).

 I am about to kick off my build scripts so let's see what happens when I put
 out some 20010119 RPM's in about 8 hours. I suspect this problem may be
 fixed. (no money-back gaurantee though.).

 -Chris

Any more souped up Java support for Konq' in the Sun sessions?

And we appreciate whatever you do for us...

-michael-





RE: [newbie] local unix-win microlan

2001-01-18 Per discussione Jose M. Sanchez



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Quaylar
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 12:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] local unix-win microlan


At 11:17 18.01.2001 -0500, you wrote:

Assuming your cabling is ok, then it's time to look for trouble with Linux
vis-a-vis your ethernet cards.

First type in

lsdev


alright..lsdev.command not found.but i know what u are aiming
at...so here we go  :

---

lsdev not found?

Did you perform a full installation?

---

first : DMA

4: cascade

second : irqs:

CPU0
   0:1192243  XT-PIC  timer
   1:919  XT-PIC  keyboard
   2:  0  XT-PIC  cascade
   9:  1  XT-PIC  HiSax
  10:359  XT-PIC  eth0
  13:  1  XT-PIC  fpu
  14:  31822  XT-PIC  ide0
  15:  8  XT-PIC  ide1
NMI:  0


third : ios

-001f : dma1
0020-003f : pic1
0040-005f : timer
0060-006f : keyboard
0080-008f : dma page reg
00a0-00bf : pic2
00c0-00df : dma2
00f0-00ff : fpu
0170-0177 : ide1
01f0-01f7 : ide0
02f8-02ff : serial(auto)
0300-030f : 3c509
0376-0376 : ide1
03c0-03df : vga+
03f6-03f6 : ide0
03f8-03ff : serial(auto)
1400-1401 : HFCS isdn
f000-f007 : ide0
f008-f00f : ide1

forth : devices

Character devices:
   1 mem
   2 pty
   3 ttyp
   4 ttyS
   5 cua
   7 vcs
  10 misc
  36 netlink
  43 ttyI
  44 cui
  45 isdn
128 ptm
136 pts

Block devices:
   2 fd
   3 ide0
   9 md
  22 ide1


fifth : modules

3c509   5964   1 (autoclean)
hisax 126536   4
isdn   91604   5 [hisax]
slhc4440   1 [isdn]


these are all the outputs of cat /proc/*



This will show something like this...

DeviceDMA   IRQ  I/O Ports

aic7xxx   5  e800-e8fe
cascade 4 2
dma  0080-008f
dma1 -001f
dma2 00c0-00df
eth0 e400-e47f
fpu  13  00f0-00ff
ide0 14  01f0-01f7 03f6-03f6 f000-f007
--- Snip ---

Notice the ethernet entry.

Make sure you see yours. IRQ does not show up, because I'm using a PCI
card.

Next type

ifconfig


ok..so this is my ifconfig :


eth0   Linkverkapselung:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:60:08:71:06:D9
   inet addr:192.168.0.1  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Maske:255.255.255.0
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   Empfangene Pakete:0 Fehler:0 Weggeworfen:0 berlauf:0 Rahmen:0
   Verschickte Packete:2874 Fehler:0 Weggeworfen:0 berlauf:0
Rahmen:2874
   Kollisionen:0 Sendewarteschlangenlnge:100
   Interrupt:10 Basisadresse:0x300

ippp0  Linkverkapselung:Punkt-zu-Punkt Verbindung
   UP PUNKTZUPUNKT RUNNING NOARP  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   Empfangene Pakete:0 Fehler:0 Weggeworfen:0 berlauf:0 Rahmen:0
   Verschickte Packete:0 Fehler:0 Weggeworfen:0 berlauf:0 Rahmen:0
   Kollisionen:0 Sendewarteschlangenlnge:30

lo Linkverkapselung:Locale Schleife
   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Maske:255.0.0.0
   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3924  Metric:1
   Empfangene Pakete:2877 Fehler:0 Weggeworfen:0 berlauf:0 Rahmen:0
   Verschickte Packete:2877 Fehler:0 Weggeworfen:0 berlauf:0
Rahmen:0
   Kollisionen:0 Sendewarteschlangenlnge:0

---

Until you have everything running, why don't you bring down the ppp link,
just in case you have a routing problem?

---


eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:10:5A:04:36:65
   inet addr:10.0.0.1  Bcast:10.255.255.255  Mask:255.0.0.0
   IPX/Ethernet II addr:00105A043665
   IPX/Ethernet SNAP addr:00105A043665
   IPX/Ethernet 802.2 addr:00105A043665
   IPX/Ethernet 802.3 addr:00105A043665
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:547913 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:1007164 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:403747 txqueuelen:100
   Interrupt:10 Base address:0xe400

loLink encap:Local Loopback
   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3924  Metric:1
   RX packets:1423 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:1423 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0

If you can see your eth0 interface, then Linux knows how to talk to it and
it is correctly configured hardware wise. The software configuration might
be in error though.


hmm--so maybe in sw.


Post the output of ifconfig see I can see it.

Next type

dmesg


ok..here is dmesg with all msgs that belong to eth0:

-
eth0: 3c509 at 0x300 tag 1, 10baseT port, address  00 60 08 71 06 d9, IRQ
10.

[newbie] subscribe newbie@linux-mandrake.com

2001-01-18 Per discussione Jim Keigher




subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I loaded Mandrake 7.2. Everything worked well. Then I tried to 
make a change.
Theerror belowoccured after I added a subdirectory to my user 
home directory.
I could not make the addition, while logged in as the user, so I logged out 
and back in as root.
After adding the subdirectory Stuff to jim/home, I could not start XWindows 
again.
I looked for a clue in the user groups, and they say to edit the XF86Config-4 
and XFConfig files to remove the font section. This solution does not 
work.
XFree86 Version 4.0.1 / X Window System(protocol Version 11, revision 
0, vendor release 6400)Release Date: 1 July 2000If the server is 
older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newerthan the above date, 
look for a newer version before reportingproblems. (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)Operating 
System: Linux 2.2.17-21mdksmp i686 [ELF] Module Loader present(==) Log 
file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Wed Jan 17 12:53:18 2001(==) Using 
config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4"Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config 
file, (==) default setting, 
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) 
informational, (WW) warning, 
(EE) error, (??) unknown.(==) ServerLayout "layout1"(**) |--Screen 
"screen1" (0)(**) | |--Monitor "Generic|High Frequency SVGA, 
1024x768 at 70 Hz"(**) | |--Device "Trident 3DImage975 
(generic)"(**) |--Input Device "Mouse1"(**) |--Input Device 
"Keyboard1"(**) Option "AutoRepeat" "250 30"(**) Option "XkbRules" 
"xfree86"(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"(**) Option "XkbModel" 
"pc105"(**) XKB: model: "pc105"(**) Option "XkbLayout" "us"(**) XKB: 
layout: "us"(**) FontPath set to "unix/:-1"(**) RgbPath set to 
"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"(==) ModulePath set to 
"/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"(**) Option "AllowMouseOpenFail"(--) using VT 
number 7
(II) Module ABI versions:XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 
0.1XFree86 Video Driver: 0.2XFree86 XInput driver : 
0.1XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1XFree86 Font Renderer : 
0.1(II) Loader running on linux(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"(II) Loading 
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a(II) Module bitmap: vendor="The 
XFree86 Project"compiled for 4.0.1, module version = 
1.0.0Module class: XFree86 Font RendererABI class: XFree86 
Font Renderer, version 0.1(II) Loading font Bitmap(II) LoadModule: 
"pcidata"(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a(II) Module 
pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project"compiled for 4.0.1, module 
version = 0.1.0ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.2(II) 
PCI: Probing config type using method 1(II) PCI: Config type is 1(II) 
PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x, mode1Res1 = 0x8000(II) PCI: 
PCI scan (all values are in hex)(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 1106,0305 card 
, rev 02 class 06,00,00 hdr 00(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 1106,8305 card 
, rev 00 class 06,04,00 hdr 01(II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 1106,0686 card 
1106, rev 1b class 06,01,00 hdr 80(II) PCI: 00:07:1: chip 1106,0571 card 
, rev 06 class 01,01,8a hdr 00(II) PCI: 00:07:2: chip 1106,3038 card 
0925,1234 rev 0e class 0c,03,00 hdr 00(II) PCI: 00:07:3: chip 1106,3038 card 
0925,1234 rev 0e class 0c,03,00 hdr 00(II) PCI: 00:07:4: chip 1106,3057 card 
, rev 20 class 06,00,00 hdr 00(II) PCI: 00:07:5: chip 1106,3058 card 
1106,3058 rev 21 class 04,01,00 hdr 00(II) PCI: 00:0a:0: chip 10ec,8029 card 
, rev 00 class 02,00,00 hdr 00(II) PCI: 00:0b:0: chip 11c1,0442 card 
1436,0001 rev 01 class 07,80,00 hdr 00(II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 1023,9750 card 
1023,9750 rev f3 class 03,00,00 hdr 00(II) PCI: End of PCI scan(II) 
LoadModule: "scanpci"(II) Loading 
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a(II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 
Project"compiled for 4.0.1, module version = 0.1.0ABI class: 
XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.2(II) UnloadModule: "scanpci"(II) 
Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a(II) Bus 1: bridge is at 
(0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x0c (VGA_EN is set)(II) Bus 1 I/O range:(II) 
Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range:[0] -10xd400 - 
0xd5ff (0x200) MXB(II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range:(--) 
PCI:*(1:0:0) Trident 3DImage975 rev 243, Mem @ 0xd540/22, 0xd580/17, 
0xd500/22(II) Addressable bus resource ranges are[0] 
-10x - 0x (0x0) MXB[1] -10x - 
0x (0x1) IXB(II) OS-reported resource ranges:[0] 
-10xffe0 - 0x (0x20) MXB(B)[1] 
-10x0010 - 0x3fff (0x3ff0) MXBE(B)[2] 
-10x000f - 0x000f (0x1) MXB[3] -10x000c - 
0x000e (0x3) MXB[4] -10x - 0x0009 (0xa) 
MXB[5] -10x - 0x01ff (0x200) IXBE(II) Active PCI 
resource ranges:[0] -10xd600 - 0xd7ff (0x200) 
MXBE[1] -10xd000 - 0xd3ff (0x400) MXBE[2] 
-10xd500 - 0xd53f (0x40) MXB(B)[3] 
-10xd580 - 0xd581 (0x2) MXB(B)[4] -10xd540 
- 0xd57f (0x40) MXB(B)[5] -10xe400 - 0xe4ff 
(0x100) IXBE[6] -10xe000 - 0xe0ff (0x100) 
IXBE[7] -10xdc00 - 0xdcff (0x100) IXBE[8] 
-10xd400 - 

[newbie] Pre Instalation query; partitions

2001-01-18 Per discussione Dave Burrows

I am preparing to install Linux Mandrke 72 as a second OS on my currently
Win98 machine (Celeron 366, 128 RAM, 10 gig).  For now, I just want to
begin learning it; I have no programming skills.  My HD is partitioned into
4; OS on C:\ (1.17 gig avail), applications on D:\ (911 meg avail), data I
back up nightly (databases, email etc.) on E:\ (1.54 gig avail) and music
files on F:\ (178 meg avail but 2 gig potentially so).  MY CD-Roms are G:\
(40x) and H:\ (8x8x24x).  I am not keen on (but not adamently opposed to)
any further partitions if that word is used as I currently understand it.

I'd like to put Linux on C, have the option of which OS I want to use when
I boot and not alter the drive letters of the remaining drives.. my many
shortcuts won't work in that case nor will I have access to my data (on
E:\) without re-configuration.

Where (and how) might you suggest installing Linux given these
particulars?  
-- 
Dave Burrows
741 Cleveland Road
Washington, PA  15301  
USA




Re: [newbie] Xfree86 RPMs for Mandrake 7.0

2001-01-18 Per discussione Christopher Molnar

On Wednesday 17 January 2001 18:49, root wrote:
 I have mandrake 7.0 and everytime I try to update Xfree86 to v4.0.2 it
 screws up my whole system so I thought if I used RPMs for Mandrake it
 would make sure everything worked right, well anyways where can I get
 the RPMs and which ones do I need?

Sending email as root is not a good idea. Hint (and very strong suggestion): 
create a user acount and use that.

As for 7.0 and Xfree 4.02, please consider updating to a more recent Mandrake 
version before you try. There have been packaging changes that will make it 
very difficult to install the current packages on a 7.0 distribution. I 
wouldn't even attempt it.

-Chris




RE: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux

2001-01-18 Per discussione Mark Johnson

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 10:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux

a honda accord has a purpose.  a freightliner tractor/trailer rig has a
purpose.
they are not the same purpose.

a hunting rifle has a purpose.  a 50mm vulcan cannon has a purpose.
they are not the same purpose.

windows has a purpose.  linux has a purpose.
they are not the same purpose.


I get what you are saying, but there is a subtle difference between the
magnitude of purpose between the hunting rifle/cannon and linux/windows.

Presumably, both linux and windows are multiple purpose generic OSs and are
able to solve the same problems in the same domains.  Both OSs can be
deployed for server purposes or desktop purposes.  In that respect that are
more reasonably interchangeable than the rifle and cannon scenario.

There is no reason why Linux cannot or should not be as accessible as MAC
and Windows are.  (There is no reason that Solaris should not be as
accessible as MAC and Windows are -- and in terms of cost as accessible as
MAC, Windows, and Linux are)

The reason why, is that Linux is not as accessible as MAC and Windows is
because Linux doesn't have paying customers that have UI requirements like
the other OSs.  Consequently, the UI priorities are not the same for linux
as Windows, but that's just because of the nature of the Open Source methods
and linux's roots.

use the right tool for the right job.

if i wanted linux to be like windows, why wouldn't i have just kept using
windows?

In short, because you and I and the most of the linux community typically
have philisophical problems with the way MS behaves, beyond any technical
merit of the OS and application it runs.

i may not be the sharpest crayon in the box, but i just don't understand
this.
no product can be everything to everybody.  no product.
name any one *specific* product that fills every need held by every person
on the planet.

You're exaggerating.  Yes, it is reasonable to say that linux can address
everything that comprises an OS and server/desktop platforms just as well as
any other general-purpose OS can address.

i think the "must be like windows" concept is a bad thing.

I don't know if the argument is really  "linux must be like windows", but
rather, "Why can't linux be as accessible as windows and mac and beos?"

ps: I think these tangent discussions are very good, as more people of
different backgrounds look to solve new problems with linux it will make
linux just that much better.

pps: It's too bad I can't convince the VPs here to use linux as our
production machines instead of solaris, because quite frankly linux has a
better (more accesible) devlopment enivronment! (But if you read the unix
newsgroups they complain about linux like we complain about windows --
imagine that!)





Re: [newbie] Upgrade to XFree4.02

2001-01-18 Per discussione Francois Massonneau

Thank you Chris,

Your advice is to download .tgz files, but I have already downloaded
the XFree4.02 rpm source file. I've just finished to rebuild the
files from the source file,  and now I have the following files built :

-rw-r--r--1 root root  1274861 Jan 18 22:01 
XFree86-100dpi-fonts-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm
-rw-r--r--1 root root 10686424 Jan 18 22:01 XFree86-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm
-rw-r--r--1 root root  1101761 Jan 18 22:01 
XFree86-75dpi-fonts-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm
-rw-r--r--1 root root   622913 Jan 18 22:02 
XFree86-Xnest-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm
-rw-r--r--1 root root  1675192 Jan 18 22:02 
XFree86-Xvfb-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm
-rw-r--r--1 root root   385112 Jan 18 22:01 
XFree86-cyrillic-fonts-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm
-rw-r--r--1 root root  1967017 Jan 18 22:01 
XFree86-devel-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm
-rw-r--r--1 root root  9273769 Jan 18 22:02 XFree86-doc-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm
-rw-r--r--1 root root   622058 Jan 18 22:02 
XFree86-glide-module-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm
-rw-r--r--1 root root  2128405 Jan 18 22:01 
XFree86-libs-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm
-rw-r--r--1 root root  6343726 Jan 18 22:02 
XFree86-server-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm
-rw-r--r--1 root root  1756340 Jan 18 22:01 
XFree86-static-libs-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm
-rw-r--r--1 root root   422201 Jan 18 22:02 XFree86-xfs-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm

Is it enuf ??
With my XFree3.3.6 install, I saw that I have the following files
not created for Xfree4.02 :
XFree86-XF86Setup
XFree86-ISO8859-2-75dpi-fonts
XFree86-SVGA
XFree86-VGA16
XFree86-server-common
Do I have to find them for this upgrade ?
Do I need anything else ?

Thank you. Francois

-

On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, you wrote:
 You need to go download the binaries for your system from ftp.xfree86.org.
 Here is a list of the minimum files you need:
 
 Xinstall.sh
 extract
 Xbin.tgz
 Xlib.tgz
 Xman.tgz
 Xdoc.tgz
 Xfnts.tgz
 Xfenc.tgz
 Xetc.tgz
 Xvar.tgz
 Xxserv.tgz
 Xmod.tgz
 
 Just put them in the same directory and type "sh Xinstall.sh". It will ask
 you a couple of questions. I said no to the first question and left the
 answers as default to the rest. Fairly easy to do. Good luck and I hope this
 helps!
 - Original Message -
 From: "Francois Massonneau" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 1:10 PM
 Subject: [newbie] Upgrade to XFree4.02
 
 
  Hi,
  I'm running Mandrake 7.1 with XFree3.3.6 I guess (that's the one that
  comes with Mdke7.1)
  I would like to upgrade XFree4.02, so I downloaded a file named
  "XFree86-4.0.2-4mdk.src.rpm"
  To rebuild it, I've got to upgrade 4 files (freetype... and VGlide
  ). While I'm writting this message, I'm rebuilding this XFree
  source rpm file.
  Now the questions :
  - Do I need something else ?
  - How do I do to install this new XFree. ?
  - Do I have to uninstall XFree3.3.6 then install 4.02 ?
  All your help will be very appreciated, because I 'm really afraid
  about that upgrade.
  Thank you. Francois




RE: [newbie] local unix-win microlan

2001-01-18 Per discussione Quaylar

At 15:52 18.01.2001 -0500, you wrote:


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Quaylar
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 12:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] local unix-win microlan


At 11:17 18.01.2001 -0500, you wrote:

 Assuming your cabling is ok, then it's time to look for trouble with Linux
 vis-a-vis your ethernet cards.
 
 First type in
 
 lsdev


alright..lsdev.command not found.but i know what u are aiming
at...so here we go  :

---

lsdev not found?


Did you perform a full installation?




no, i did a server installation with LM 7.1 because i only have 2x500 MB HD






---

first : DMA

4: cascade

second : irqs:

CPU0
0:1192243  XT-PIC  timer
1:919  XT-PIC  keyboard
2:  0  XT-PIC  cascade
9:  1  XT-PIC  HiSax
   10:359  XT-PIC  eth0
   13:  1  XT-PIC  fpu
   14:  31822  XT-PIC  ide0
   15:  8  XT-PIC  ide1
NMI:  0


third : ios

-001f : dma1
0020-003f : pic1
0040-005f : timer
0060-006f : keyboard
0080-008f : dma page reg
00a0-00bf : pic2
00c0-00df : dma2
00f0-00ff : fpu
0170-0177 : ide1
01f0-01f7 : ide0
02f8-02ff : serial(auto)
0300-030f : 3c509
0376-0376 : ide1
03c0-03df : vga+
03f6-03f6 : ide0
03f8-03ff : serial(auto)
1400-1401 : HFCS isdn
f000-f007 : ide0
f008-f00f : ide1

forth : devices

Character devices:
1 mem
2 pty
3 ttyp
4 ttyS
5 cua
7 vcs
   10 misc
   36 netlink
   43 ttyI
   44 cui
   45 isdn
128 ptm
136 pts

Block devices:
2 fd
3 ide0
9 md
   22 ide1


fifth : modules

3c509   5964   1 (autoclean)
hisax 126536   4
isdn   91604   5 [hisax]
slhc4440   1 [isdn]


these are all the outputs of cat /proc/*



 This will show something like this...
 
 DeviceDMA   IRQ  I/O Ports
 
 aic7xxx   5  e800-e8fe
 cascade 4 2
 dma  0080-008f
 dma1 -001f
 dma2 00c0-00df
 eth0 e400-e47f
 fpu  13  00f0-00ff
 ide0 14  01f0-01f7 03f6-03f6 f000-f007
 --- Snip ---
 
 Notice the ethernet entry.
 
 Make sure you see yours. IRQ does not show up, because I'm using a PCI
card.
 
 Next type
 
 ifconfig


ok..so this is my ifconfig :


eth0   Linkverkapselung:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:60:08:71:06:D9
inet addr:192.168.0.1  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Maske:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
Empfangene Pakete:0 Fehler:0 Weggeworfen:0 berlauf:0 Rahmen:0
Verschickte Packete:2874 Fehler:0 Weggeworfen:0 berlauf:0
Rahmen:2874
Kollisionen:0 Sendewarteschlangenlnge:100
Interrupt:10 Basisadresse:0x300

ippp0  Linkverkapselung:Punkt-zu-Punkt Verbindung
UP PUNKTZUPUNKT RUNNING NOARP  MTU:1500  Metric:1
Empfangene Pakete:0 Fehler:0 Weggeworfen:0 berlauf:0 Rahmen:0
Verschickte Packete:0 Fehler:0 Weggeworfen:0 berlauf:0 Rahmen:0
Kollisionen:0 Sendewarteschlangenlnge:30

lo Linkverkapselung:Locale Schleife
inet addr:127.0.0.1  Maske:255.0.0.0
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3924  Metric:1
Empfangene Pakete:2877 Fehler:0 Weggeworfen:0 berlauf:0 Rahmen:0
Verschickte Packete:2877 Fehler:0 Weggeworfen:0 berlauf:0
Rahmen:0
Kollisionen:0 Sendewarteschlangenlnge:0

---

Until you have everything running, why don't you bring down the ppp link,
just in case you have a routing problem?




alright.let me try..doesnt work.despite of bringing down the 
ippp interface




---


 eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:10:5A:04:36:65
inet addr:10.0.0.1  Bcast:10.255.255.255  Mask:255.0.0.0
IPX/Ethernet II addr:00105A043665
IPX/Ethernet SNAP addr:00105A043665
IPX/Ethernet 802.2 addr:00105A043665
IPX/Ethernet 802.3 addr:00105A043665
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
RX packets:547913 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:1007164 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:403747 txqueuelen:100
Interrupt:10 Base address:0xe400
 
 loLink encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3924  Metric:1
RX packets:1423 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:1423 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
 
 If you can see your eth0 interface, then Linux knows how to talk to it and
 it is correctly configured hardware wise. The software configuration might
 be in error though.



[newbie] I'm using a hotmail acct fot this user group and

2001-01-18 Per discussione Beckycould



I don't know how to be removed from this very busy 
usergroup.
How do I ask to get removed 
please?


[newbie] windows/word

2001-01-18 Per discussione Kmaier26

I recently installed lm 7.2 and i'm still learning it, but my question is, is there a 
way to access and use microsoft word from ,my other partition.  I can access my 
windows fine but i can't run any programs from that OS.  Just curious

Kurt




[newbie] how do I caopy a file from another Linux box?

2001-01-18 Per discussione Homer Shimpsian


I have samba setup, how do I get a file off it into another linux box?





[newbie] NIC Cards

2001-01-18 Per discussione Rob Callow








I have just installed Mandrake on a P60 with 2 3Com 3c509b Ethernet cards.



The system doesnt recognise the cards, what command can I use to add
the correct device drivers ??



Rob 










Re: [newbie] Upgrade to XFree4.02

2001-01-18 Per discussione Chris Hall

H... I can't really help you now because I've never installed using
RPM's. :( I've always used the tar files. I'm sure someone else can tho.

- Original Message -
From: "Francois Massonneau" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Upgrade to XFree4.02


 Thank you Chris,

 Your advice is to download .tgz files, but I have already downloaded
 the XFree4.02 rpm source file. I've just finished to rebuild the
 files from the source file,  and now I have the following files built :

 -rw-r--r--1 root root  1274861 Jan 18 22:01
XFree86-100dpi-fonts-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm
 -rw-r--r--1 root root 10686424 Jan 18 22:01
XFree86-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm
 -rw-r--r--1 root root  1101761 Jan 18 22:01
XFree86-75dpi-fonts-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm
 -rw-r--r--1 root root   622913 Jan 18 22:02
XFree86-Xnest-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm
 -rw-r--r--1 root root  1675192 Jan 18 22:02
XFree86-Xvfb-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm
 -rw-r--r--1 root root   385112 Jan 18 22:01
XFree86-cyrillic-fonts-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm
 -rw-r--r--1 root root  1967017 Jan 18 22:01
XFree86-devel-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm
 -rw-r--r--1 root root  9273769 Jan 18 22:02
XFree86-doc-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm
 -rw-r--r--1 root root   622058 Jan 18 22:02
XFree86-glide-module-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm
 -rw-r--r--1 root root  2128405 Jan 18 22:01
XFree86-libs-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm
 -rw-r--r--1 root root  6343726 Jan 18 22:02
XFree86-server-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm
 -rw-r--r--1 root root  1756340 Jan 18 22:01
XFree86-static-libs-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm
 -rw-r--r--1 root root   422201 Jan 18 22:02
XFree86-xfs-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm

 Is it enuf ??
 With my XFree3.3.6 install, I saw that I have the following files
 not created for Xfree4.02 :
 XFree86-XF86Setup
 XFree86-ISO8859-2-75dpi-fonts
 XFree86-SVGA
 XFree86-VGA16
 XFree86-server-common
 Do I have to find them for this upgrade ?
 Do I need anything else ?

 Thank you. Francois

 -

 On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, you wrote:
  You need to go download the binaries for your system from
ftp.xfree86.org.
  Here is a list of the minimum files you need:
 
  Xinstall.sh
  extract
  Xbin.tgz
  Xlib.tgz
  Xman.tgz
  Xdoc.tgz
  Xfnts.tgz
  Xfenc.tgz
  Xetc.tgz
  Xvar.tgz
  Xxserv.tgz
  Xmod.tgz
 
  Just put them in the same directory and type "sh Xinstall.sh". It will
ask
  you a couple of questions. I said no to the first question and left the
  answers as default to the rest. Fairly easy to do. Good luck and I hope
this
  helps!
  - Original Message -
  From: "Francois Massonneau" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 1:10 PM
  Subject: [newbie] Upgrade to XFree4.02
 
 
   Hi,
   I'm running Mandrake 7.1 with XFree3.3.6 I guess (that's the one that
   comes with Mdke7.1)
   I would like to upgrade XFree4.02, so I downloaded a file named
   "XFree86-4.0.2-4mdk.src.rpm"
   To rebuild it, I've got to upgrade 4 files (freetype... and VGlide
   ). While I'm writting this message, I'm rebuilding this XFree
   source rpm file.
   Now the questions :
   - Do I need something else ?
   - How do I do to install this new XFree. ?
   - Do I have to uninstall XFree3.3.6 then install 4.02 ?
   All your help will be very appreciated, because I 'm really afraid
   about that upgrade.
   Thank you. Francois







Re: [newbie] Disappearing memory... and non accessilble CD-ROM

2001-01-18 Per discussione s

I don't know why, but Linux sees my 733 processor as a 735 and my 256 mb ram 
as 255.  So I would say:  255.   
-s

On Thursday 18 January 2001 07:19 pm, you wrote:

 Hooorah  if at the boot prompt I type "linux mem=256M" I get the full
 amount ...
 however, try as I might I cannot get lilo.conf to automatically see the
 memory.

 I've tried append="mem=256m" and I've tried label="linux mem=256m" and it
 still doesnt work (and yes I did run lilo before rebooting).

 Can someone send me an example lilo.conf with label="linux mem=256" so I
 make sure I've got it in the right place.  I'd send my lilo.conf but I'm
 not at that machine at the moment.

 Finally, if I have 256Mb what amount should I specify.  I notice that for
 64Mb linus starts with "65M" does this imply that for 256Mb I should start
 with 260MB . or is 256 the most.


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[newbie] Help! Need analysis of freeze during 7.2 install

2001-01-18 Per discussione Bradford Sturtevant


Help! I need to get Mandrake 7.2 Complete installed!
I would like to obtain detailed error message
information but cannot read messages briefly displaied
during stage 1 of install. (they scroll by too quickly
to read)

After about 30 reboots I did piece together a stage 1
message:
  Unknown IDE controller on PCI bus 00, device 79,
VID=1166, DID=0211
But I do not know if it is relevant. Next message
suggested try "text expert idebus=33" but made no
difference.

Is there a command I can enter at prompt boot: that
would allow me to step through install processes and
read each message? Or view all stage 1 messages before
stage 2 of install is started?

I have no idea how to procede. Help!

Problem seems to be related to IDE or SCSI controllers.
Or maybe that data cannot be written to harddisk.
I have tried both IDE and SCSI CDROMs and both embedded
Symbios SCSI and Adaptec 29160 SCSI card for harddisk.

I have tried disabling (via Phoenix BIOS) of various
combinations of embedded chips on motherboard (see
below): sound, network, SCSI, IDE, floppy, PCI slots
but install always freezes as follows:

Install Behavior


In general, the install of 7.2 Complete is freezing
(mouse, keyboard do not respond for 30 minutes and
reboot necessary). Freeze occurs when installing
first or second driver during stage 2 of install.

I have tried modes expert, text expert, custom and
recommended. The freeze always occurs just after clicking
on either workstation, server or developer and showing 
one of dialogs below (depending on hardware attempt):

   Please wait
   Installing driver for scsi|disk card
  Symbios|53c1010-33 Ultra3 SCSI Adapter
   (module sym53c8xx)

   Please wait
   Installing driver for scsi|disk card imm
   (module imm)

FYI: I want to kill module imm ;-) What is this beast?
When an Adaptec 29160 card is used to replace disabled,
embedded Symbios SCSI chip the Adaptec driver seems to
install ok but freeze then occurs on the imm driver
install.

Motherboard Info


More info on my super fast hardware (that don't work)
http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunder2500_p.html
Tyan Thunder 2500 (S1867DLU3AN) with:
Note: this motherboard has all 64bit PCI slots of
which 2 run at 66MHz and 4 at 33MHz (more complications!)

Server Works (RCC) Sever Set III HE with:
Two 40-pin IDE connectors (primary / secondary)
Up to 4 drives

Integrated dual channel SCSI via:
Symbios 896 on chip LSI SYM1010

SMC 37B787 Super I/O chip with:
Two 9-pin 16550 UART Serial ports
One 25-pin ECP / Epp Parallel port
Floppy Controller
PS/2 Mouse  Keyboard ports

Phoenix BIOS on 2 Mb flash RAM with:
Auto detection of memory size
Auto configuration of IDE hard disk types
Multiple boot options
DMI 2.0 / PC 99 compliant
No ACPI support

Ensoniq 1373 PCI Sound
Ensoniq AC'97 Codec
Sound Blaster™ Compatible 16-bit Stereo
Line-in, Line-out, MIC and Game / 
MIDI ports

Disk Drives Info


Seagate Cheetah X15 (ST318451LW)
AND
Plextor CDROM (UltraPlex Wide (PX-40TSUWi))
OR
Generic IDE CDROM


Thanks for your time, Any suggestions appreciated,
Bradford Sturtevant


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Re: [newbie]Linux careers

2001-01-18 Per discussione Anthony

http://linux.com/jobs/

 Dear Anyone, Are there any Linux career possibilities? Is there a place
 to research this on the internet? Thank you, Marcia

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[newbie] 3com NIC

2001-01-18 Per discussione Rob Callow

I have just installed Mandrake on a P60 with 2 3Com 3c509b Ethernet cards.

The system doesn't recognise the cards, what command can I use to add the
correct device drivers ??

Rob




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Re: [newbie] Upgrade to XFree4.02

2001-01-18 Per discussione mark

I should mention that when I followed Chris' directions
several times, you cannot boot anymore.  I finally traced it
to running graphical login (xdm) although I was able to get 
the upgrade to work if I used a shell login, and copied 
my old /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc from 3.3.6 back onto the new
one.   This allowed me to keep KDE instead of twm as the
default.  But DONT reconfigure after upgrade for a graphical
logon, or you can't boot anymore.

On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, you wrote:  You need to go download
the binaries for your system from ftp.xfree86.org.  Here
is a list of the minimum files you need:Xinstall.sh
 extract
 Xbin.tgz
 Xlib.tgz
 Xman.tgz
 Xdoc.tgz
 Xfnts.tgz
 Xfenc.tgz
 Xetc.tgz
 Xvar.tgz
 Xxserv.tgz
 Xmod.tgz
 
 Just put them in the same directory and type "sh Xinstall.sh". It will ask
 you a couple of questions. I said no to the first question and left the
 answers as default to the rest. Fairly easy to do. Good luck and I hope this
 helps!
 - Original Message -
 From: "Francois Massonneau" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 1:10 PM
 Subject: [newbie] Upgrade to XFree4.02
 
 
  Hi,
  I'm running Mandrake 7.1 with XFree3.3.6 I guess (that's the one that
  comes with Mdke7.1)
  I would like to upgrade XFree4.02, so I downloaded a file named
  "XFree86-4.0.2-4mdk.src.rpm"
  To rebuild it, I've got to upgrade 4 files (freetype... and VGlide
  ). While I'm writting this message, I'm rebuilding this XFree
  source rpm file.
  Now the questions :
  - Do I need something else ?
  - How do I do to install this new XFree. ?
  - Do I have to uninstall XFree3.3.6 then install 4.02 ?
  All your help will be very appreciated, because I 'm really afraid
  about that upgrade.
  Thank you. Francois
 
 




[newbie]] Linux Careers

2001-01-18 Per discussione marcia

Dear Anyone, Are there any Linux career possibilities? Thank you. Marcia




RE: [newbie] local unix-win microlan

2001-01-18 Per discussione Quaylar

jose,


i found the config utility u spoke from, i configured the card to use the 
BNC port and linux came up recognizing that the card was supposed to use 
the BNC port. ( *hurray*)

i added eth0 routes as u specified but unfortunatly the original problem 
persists ( *argh*)
as before i am not able to ping either the win box from linux nor the linux 
box from win..

do u have another idea what could be going on here ?

--quay





RE: [newbie]Linux careers

2001-01-18 Per discussione Mark Johnson

Can anyone suggest a good place to informally find folks interested in being
hired for development positions? A place for sponsors/recuiters to
informally discuss potential projects?  Like a certain newsgroup or
something?

-Original Message-
From: Anthony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 4:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie]Linux careers


http://linux.com/jobs/

 Dear Anyone, Are there any Linux career possibilities? Is there a place
 to research this on the internet? Thank you, Marcia

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Re: [newbie] No sound can't find in archives

2001-01-18 Per discussione KompuKit

had same problem vic...turn on icq...

Vic wrote:
 
 I installed 7.2 today.
 
 No sound.
 
 Why?
 
 Soundblaster Awe64 ISA
 
 sndconfig
 
 'command not found'
 
 where did it go?
 
 Where is the sound?

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Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux

2001-01-18 Per discussione Mark Weaver

Heavens! don't do that. ToJams don't wash down too easily. And I happen to
agree with what you said. All things have a purpose and I, like you, don't
want Linux to be anymore like windows then the next guy.

-- 
Mark

"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."

Linus Torvalds

On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Adrian Smith wrote:

 this will be a shock to you all, but i have an opinon here.   =)
 i agree with Tom -- although i fully confess Tom is much better at saying than I am. 
 probably because i am an obnoxious and arrogant and Tom isn't.

 but i can't figure this one out ether, why do you guys care so much about converting 
windoze users?  should we make 18 wheelers with automatic stick shifts so that 
everyone who drives a car can drive a semi-truck?

 a honda accord has a purpose.  a freightliner tractor/trailer rig has a purpose.
 they are not the same purpose.

 a hunting rifle has a purpose.  a 50mm vulcan cannon has a purpose.
 they are not the same purpose.

 windows has a purpose.  linux has a purpose.
 they are not the same purpose.

 use the right tool for the right job.

 if i wanted linux to be like windows, why wouldn't i have just kept using windows?
 i may not be the sharpest crayon in the box, but i just don't understand this.
 no product can be everything to everybody.  no product.
 name any one *specific* product that fills every need held by every person on the 
planet.

 i think the "must be like windows" concept is a bad thing.

 i'll try to stuff a sock in my mouth now.   =)


 Adrian Smith
 'de telepone dude
 Telecom Dept.
 x 7042
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  Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9:29:15 PM 1/17/01 
   OK y'all  !!This marks the last time I'm gonna start a thread
 starting with a news wire URL, well maybe ;  Actually I thought it was
 a business story that kind'a illustrated Linux's present state, and the
 perception of.

The first full install I did of Mandrake was ~500mb.  A current 'du
 -ch /' with my windoze drive umounted is ~4 gigs! ... and I've
 uninstalled a lot of the apps I don't use, and there's linux stuff on
 the windoze drive, not in that count.  I like it just the way it is,
 the installer that is.  What brandNewbie doesn't install several times
 before they 'settle in' ?  ...and for experienced users, it's easy,
 albeit time consuming, to install just what you want.  As much or
 little.  LM's installation let's YOU choose.  I believe there's nothin
 that needs changin.  I like the current trend in Mandrake's installs.

As to the 'convert windoze users', and get "linux on everybody's
 desktop' vein this thread has denigrated to.  WHO CARES?  Seriously, be
 more concerned that Linux continues to attract the people that built it
 to begin with ... the people all over the world that contribute to this
 free, open source, volunteer effort.  Without them, Linux is dead.






Re: [newbie] Disappearing memory... and non accessilble CD-ROM

2001-01-18 Per discussione Altoine Barker

Try capitalizing the "M" in "append=256M"

otherwise the problem is with your bios (I think)

Cheers
-- Al

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't know why, but Linux sees my 733 processor as a 735 and my 256 mb ram 
 as 255.  So I would say:  255.   
 -s
 
 On Thursday 18 January 2001 07:19 pm, you wrote:
 
  Hooorah  if at the boot prompt I type "linux mem=256M" I get the full
  amount ...
  however, try as I might I cannot get lilo.conf to automatically see the
  memory.
 
  I've tried append="mem=256m" and I've tried label="linux mem=256m" and it
  still doesnt work (and yes I did run lilo before rebooting).
 
  Can someone send me an example lilo.conf with label="linux mem=256" so I
  make sure I've got it in the right place.  I'd send my lilo.conf but I'm
  not at that machine at the moment.
 
  Finally, if I have 256Mb what amount should I specify.  I notice that for
  64Mb linus starts with "65M" does this imply that for 256Mb I should start
  with 260MB . or is 256 the most.
 
 
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[newbie]] Linux Careers

2001-01-18 Per discussione NERILL

Has anyone succesfully installed Resin ( JSP and Servlet engine) with the 
Apache Server which comes with Linux Mandrake?
I am confused with the configure and make commands.

I have Mandrake 7.0

Thanks




Re: [newbie] Disappearing memory... and non accessilble CD-ROM

2001-01-18 Per discussione Tom Brinkman

On Thursday 18 January 2001 10:27 am, s wrote:
 I don't know why, but Linux sees my 733 processor as a 735 and my 256
 mb ram as 255.  So I would say:  255.
 -s

  The clock generator chip on any motherboard is never exact. 
That's a 133.33mhz bus cpu and the motherboards givin it 133.63mhz.  So 
5.5 (the multiplier for that cpu) times 133.63 = 735mhz.

  Something in the system, prob'ly the motherboard is grabin some 
ram to use, so you only have 255 left. Actually with any motherboard 
that's faulty enough to require an append= fix, 1mb should always be 
subtracted. Any board with integrated video, sound, modem, etc. also 
uses the system ram and forcing linux to see all the ram, eg 
append=256M, will sooner or later cause the system to crash.  Say the 
vendor said the computer has 8mb onboard video (a lie). In that case 
you could only safely use append=247M  If the board also has integrated 
sound, then append=245m, or safer yet =243M.  It's just another of the 
many reasons why onboard crap should be avoided, any OS.
-- 
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Re: [newbie] x-config.SOLVED

2001-01-18 Per discussione Altoine Barker


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, Andres wrote:
 
  Hi, is there a way of changing the xfree server(4.0.1) back to the 3.3.6
  using drakonf? or the only way is by "upgrading" the O.S.?
 
 
 

Yes, and here is your answer.


snip
  From: s [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  I had the same problem til a kind sole told me that I needed to tell X 
  which
  version to link to:
  
  "What defines your X version, is the link
  /etc/X11/X
  
if it is linked to something like
  /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_  then it is the 3.3.6
  
if it is linked to
  /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86then it is 4.0.x
  
Also, /var/log/XFree86.0.log   is the output of your
  last X session, and you can find lot sof info there
  too, just a good way to check out things :)
  
  
To make it 4.0.x straight delete the link and remake
  it in the correct way
  
rm /etc/X11/X
ln -s /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 /etc/X11/X
  
will do the job. Goodluck
  
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[newbie] RESIN with APACHE

2001-01-18 Per discussione NERILL

Has anyone succesfully installed Resin ( JSP and Servlet engine) with the 
Apache Server which comes with Linux Mandrake?
I am confused with the configure and make commands.

I have Mandrake 7.0

Thanks




Re: [newbie] Disappearing memory... and non accessilble CD-ROM

2001-01-18 Per discussione Altoine Barker

Better yet, you are right! Send us your actual lilo.conf file and all it's entirety 
and we will know for sure what is wrong. Expecially if you have SCSI specified in your 
lilo.conf.

Cheers
-- Al

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Try capitalizing the "M" in "append=256M"
 
 otherwise the problem is with your bios (I think)
 
 Cheers
 -- Al
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I don't know why, but Linux sees my 733 processor as a 735 and my 256 mb 
 ram 
  as 255.  So I would say:  255.   
  -s
  
  On Thursday 18 January 2001 07:19 pm, you wrote:
  
   Hooorah  if at the boot prompt I type "linux mem=256M" I get the full
   amount ...
   however, try as I might I cannot get lilo.conf to automatically see the
   memory.
  
   I've tried append="mem=256m" and I've tried label="linux mem=256m" and it
   still doesnt work (and yes I did run lilo before rebooting).
  
   Can someone send me an example lilo.conf with label="linux mem=256" so I
   make sure I've got it in the right place.  I'd send my lilo.conf but I'm
   not at that machine at the moment.
  
   Finally, if I have 256Mb what amount should I specify.  I notice that for
   64Mb linus starts with "65M" does this imply that for 256Mb I should start
   with 260MB . or is 256 the most.
  
  
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Re: [newbie] Disappearing memory... and non accessilble CD-ROM

2001-01-18 Per discussione Altoine Barker

Better yet, you are right! Send us your actual lilo.conf file and all it's entirety 
and we will know for sure what is wrong. Expecially if you have SCSI specified in your 
lilo.conf.

Cheers
-- Al


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Try capitalizing the "M" in "append=256M"
 
 otherwise the problem is with your bios (I think)
 
 Cheers
 -- Al
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I don't know why, but Linux sees my 733 processor as a 735 and my 256 mb 
 ram 
  as 255.  So I would say:  255.   
  -s
  
  On Thursday 18 January 2001 07:19 pm, you wrote:
  
   Hooorah  if at the boot prompt I type "linux mem=256M" I get the full
   amount ...
   however, try as I might I cannot get lilo.conf to automatically see the
   memory.
  
   I've tried append="mem=256m" and I've tried label="linux mem=256m" and it
   still doesnt work (and yes I did run lilo before rebooting).
  
   Can someone send me an example lilo.conf with label="linux mem=256" so I
   make sure I've got it in the right place.  I'd send my lilo.conf but I'm
   not at that machine at the moment.
  
   Finally, if I have 256Mb what amount should I specify.  I notice that for
   64Mb linus starts with "65M" does this imply that for 256Mb I should start
   with 260MB . or is 256 the most.
  
  
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Re: [newbie] 3com NIC

2001-01-18 Per discussione Quaylar

At 22:51 18.01.2001 +, you wrote:
I have just installed Mandrake on a P60 with 2 3Com 3c509b Ethernet cards.

The system doesn't recognise the cards, what command can I use to add the
correct device drivers ??

Rob


rob,

at first u will have to ensure that your precompiled kernel has built-in 
(or module) support for your ethernet cards.
i assume that is has not built-in because the drivers didnt come up at boot 
time.
so you should check for a module called "3c509" (this is the module for 
these cards, at least in kernel 2.2.18) in /lib/modules/ and all 
subdirectories.

if u dont find the module u have to recompile your kernel to support your 
ethernet cards.
if this is the case i suggest u read the Kernel-Howto located in 
/usr/doc/HOWTO or www.linuxdoc.org  and first make sure to configure
the kernel for your eth cards ( and at least to fit your other needs, 
btw...if u recompile your kernel.i suggest doing it with a new version, 
2.2.18 worked good for me, u can download it and all other versions at 
www.kernel.org ).

greetings,

--quay





[newbie]Linux careers

2001-01-18 Per discussione marcia

Dear Anyone, Are there any Linux career possibilities? Is there a place
to research this on the internet? Thank you, Marcia




Re: [newbie] No hard disk

2001-01-18 Per discussione abe

Be aware of any IRQ sharing with the promise controller.  In windows
sharing seems to work ok with that device but I've had some serious
problems in linux.  The (can't remember for sure) third or fourth pci
slot from the top (agp slot) always shares with the promise controller. 
If you really have problems you may need to move that device to a
different slot altogether.


Abe


Dan LaBine wrote:
 
 Dear Micha; You can't install Mandrake, because you don't have any free
 partitions left. You said that you had 3 - 10Gb partitions all formatted
 with DOS? you need at least one partition UNFORMATTED for Mandrake. It will
 format the partition for Linux-Mandrake while it is installing. If all 3
 partitions are already formatted for DOS/Windows, there is no place for
 Mandrake. Also, check the CD that came with your ASUS board. See if it has a
 driver section for the Promise ATA100 adapter on the M/B. There may be a
 Linux Driver on it. If your BIOS doesn't detect the drive, check the drive
 to make sure that the jumpers on it are set to Master. If they are, replace
 your IDE cable (it may be defective,..but probably not). Borrow another IDE
 drive and see if your BIOS will detect it. If it does, there may be a
 problem with your drive. In any case, you'll have to delete one partition
 (the second one is your best bet) in order to make room for Mandrake. Make
 sure that you back up your data first!
 
 Good luck!
 
 Dan LaBine
 Registered Linux User #190712
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Micha POZARZYCKI" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 8:40 AM
 Subject: [newbie] No hard disk
 
  Hi everybody!
 
  I've got a problem with Mandrake 7.2 installation. All goes well
  until the programme asks me for existing SCSII driver. Recording
  to the manual of my motherbard (ASUS VIA 761 Chipset) there is a
  driver Promise. There is no such a driver in the list I have to
  choose from. Anyway I try to say
  no SCSII device and then the programme say there is no valid
  device where the file system can be placed, check for hardware
  error. My hard disk is
  Seagate Barracuda IDE 30,8GB, so I assume that thye error is not
  connected
  with possible SCSII device error that I probably do. An
  additional information is that my BIOS doesn't detect hard disk,
  the field Primery Master say None when booting. Also in the Bios
  Setup when I choose autodetect Primery Master the Bios doesn't
  recognize any data (like PIO level or UDMA level). When I set
  Secondary Master autodetect it chooses CD-recorder and gets the
  information on PIO or UDMA.
  Sorry if I haven't included enough information - I'm not to good
  at it. I am very determined to install Linux on my desktop, but
  can't deal with that stuff. If it helps the windows 98 goes
  almost well and it recognizes all my three partitions of the
  drive, which have been made by firm I bought the computer from
  (thay used Partition Magic or some stuff that sounds similiar,
  made three partitions 10GB each, and the partitions are in the
  format compatibile with DOS or smth.)
 
  Appreciate any comment
 
  michal
 
 




Re: [newbie] windows/word

2001-01-18 Per discussione Michael Scottaline


Kurt wrote:

 I recently installed lm 7.2 and i'm still learning it, but my question is, is 
 there a way to access and use microsoft word from ,my other partition.  I can 
 access my windows fine but i can't run any programs from that OS.  Just 
 curious
 
 Kurt
=
Hi Kurt,
If all you're trying to do is open some of your M$ docs to work on or manipulate 
in Linux, then you don't really need to run M$ Word itself (though that might be 
possible with VMWare, possibly even Wine).  Use StarOffice or Applixware (SO is 
free!!).  StarOffice can open almost any Word, Excel, or Powerpoint doc I've thrown at 
it, more often than not flawlessly!  I've had students e-mail me essays as Word 
attachments.  I've opened in SO, made my comments and corrections in red, saved as a 
Word 97 file, e-mailed it back as an attachment.  No worries; no problems ;o)
Give it a try.  Open SO, Open file, go to /mnt/win98 (or whatever you call your 
windows partition) /mydocuments and try opening a Word file.  You'll be pleasantly 
surprised.
HTH,
Mike
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Re: [newbie] Tecra8100 + Mandrake 7.2

2001-01-18 Per discussione Charles A. Punch

James Hallam wrote:

 hi again,

 has anyone had any experience of installing drak7.2 on a Toshiba Tecra 8100
 laptop

 i can install 7.2 but cannot get X up and running.

 thanks in advance

I have a Satellite Pro 465 CDX, which I have used some Tecra settings, which
worked for me, when there were none for a 465 CDX. I can't even find 465 CDX
on Toshiba's website, but that's beside the point. I assume that they are
somewhat similar. I  am still a newbie at this, but this may help you. I have
been running LM 7.1 for a while with no problems. I ran 6.5 before that. 6.5
was allright, but since I have a Win modem, I couldn't connect. 7.1 reads my
Win modem without a hitch (I am writing this from  my 465 CDX running LM 7.1).
I didn't do anything special, I just set  up a DNS with ELN/ and it worked
from the get go. 7.2 however, would not read it. It seems that some people
like 7.2 better, but I went back to 7.1, for more than one reason. The Modem
was just one of them. I had problems  with 7.2 on both my 465 CDX and on my
Gateway desktop, so I'm not sure if it is system specific or if it is
something I am doing wrong. Neither one of my boxes are even close to what
could be considered Linux compatible hardware, so it's amazing that  it will
run at all on them. Even if it is something I am doing wrong, 7.1 is a safer
option. 7.2 is pretty, but I want something fuctional. It's a shame though,
that K Office thingie loooks sweet.  I read somewhere on this list, that
slackware is a better alternative for notebooks. I might check that out next.
No matter how much trouble it is, it's got to be less than Windows.


ShalomOut

Chal






Re: [newbie] No hard disk

2001-01-18 Per discussione abe

you've got an A7v?  Promise 100 controller?  the mandrake 7.2 installer
down't recognize that controller correctly at boot time.  You have to
pass the loader a command to get it to work.  I can't remember the hack
though ;-(  Try looking at http://www.mandrakeforum.com for it.  You
could also search the archives for this list.



Abe


Micha POZARZYCKI wrote:
 
 Hi everybody!
 
 I've got a problem with Mandrake 7.2 installation. All goes well
 until the programme asks me for existing SCSII driver. Recording
 to the manual of my motherbard (ASUS VIA 761 Chipset) there is a
 driver Promise. There is no such a driver in the list I have to
 choose from. Anyway I try to say
 no SCSII device and then the programme say there is no valid
 device where the file system can be placed, check for hardware
 error. My hard disk is
 Seagate Barracuda IDE 30,8GB, so I assume that thye error is not
 connected
 with possible SCSII device error that I probably do. An
 additional information is that my BIOS doesn't detect hard disk,
 the field Primery Master say None when booting. Also in the Bios
 Setup when I choose autodetect Primery Master the Bios doesn't
 recognize any data (like PIO level or UDMA level). When I set
 Secondary Master autodetect it chooses CD-recorder and gets the
 information on PIO or UDMA.
 Sorry if I haven't included enough information - I'm not to good
 at it. I am very determined to install Linux on my desktop, but
 can't deal with that stuff. If it helps the windows 98 goes
 almost well and it recognizes all my three partitions of the
 drive, which have been made by firm I bought the computer from
 (thay used Partition Magic or some stuff that sounds similiar,
 made three partitions 10GB each, and the partitions are in the
 format compatibile with DOS or smth.)
 
 Appreciate any comment
 
 michal




[newbie] Mandrake / Redhat

2001-01-18 Per discussione Dan Belkie

In a debate over Flavors of Linux, How different would you say Mandrake is
from Redhat?

Sincerely,

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Re: [newbie] Disappearing memory... and non accessilble CD-ROM

2001-01-18 Per discussione Altoine Barker

Try capitalizing the "M" in "append=256M"

otherwise the problem is with your bios (I think)

Cheers
-- Al


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't know why, but Linux sees my 733 processor as a 735 and my 256 mb ram 
 as 255.  So I would say:  255.   
 -s
 
 On Thursday 18 January 2001 07:19 pm, you wrote:
 
  Hooorah  if at the boot prompt I type "linux mem=256M" I get the full
  amount ...
  however, try as I might I cannot get lilo.conf to automatically see the
  memory.
 
  I've tried append="mem=256m" and I've tried label="linux mem=256m" and it
  still doesnt work (and yes I did run lilo before rebooting).
 
  Can someone send me an example lilo.conf with label="linux mem=256" so I
  make sure I've got it in the right place.  I'd send my lilo.conf but I'm
  not at that machine at the moment.
 
  Finally, if I have 256Mb what amount should I specify.  I notice that for
  64Mb linus starts with "65M" does this imply that for 256Mb I should start
  with 260MB . or is 256 the most.
 
 
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RE: [newbie]] Linux Careers

2001-01-18 Per discussione Homer Shimpsian

Welp,   I work in Silicon valley..

We use only Linux on our servers and more then half our workstations.  We're
using Linux as a replacement to Exchange.  I love it.

I've been paid to setup Linux for web servers, firewalls, file servers, and
backup solutions always a joy.

And to further answer your question.  "Linux is where the money is." - one
of our network consultants, who was being paid $150/hour to say this.

Linux and Win2k active directory.  Samba should replace Active Dir soon
right?







-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of marcia
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 9:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie]] Linux Careers


Dear Anyone, Are there any Linux career possibilities? Thank you. Marcia







Re: [newbie] Upgrade to XFree4.02

2001-01-18 Per discussione Chris Hall

Those directions were just what worked for me. I have an NVIDIA Geforce
2 MX and it worked just fine. I had no problems booting either way. 




mark wrote:
 
 I should mention that when I followed Chris' directions
 several times, you cannot boot anymore.  I finally traced it
 to running graphical login (xdm) although I was able to get
 the upgrade to work if I used a shell login, and copied
 my old /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc from 3.3.6 back onto the new
 one.   This allowed me to keep KDE instead of twm as the
 default.  But DONT reconfigure after upgrade for a graphical
 logon, or you can't boot anymore.
 
 On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, you wrote:  You need to go download
 the binaries for your system from ftp.xfree86.org.  Here
 is a list of the minimum files you need:Xinstall.sh
  extract
  Xbin.tgz
  Xlib.tgz
  Xman.tgz
  Xdoc.tgz
  Xfnts.tgz
  Xfenc.tgz
  Xetc.tgz
  Xvar.tgz
  Xxserv.tgz
  Xmod.tgz
 
  Just put them in the same directory and type "sh Xinstall.sh". It will ask
  you a couple of questions. I said no to the first question and left the
  answers as default to the rest. Fairly easy to do. Good luck and I hope this
  helps!
  - Original Message -
  From: "Francois Massonneau" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 1:10 PM
  Subject: [newbie] Upgrade to XFree4.02
 
 
   Hi,
   I'm running Mandrake 7.1 with XFree3.3.6 I guess (that's the one that
   comes with Mdke7.1)
   I would like to upgrade XFree4.02, so I downloaded a file named
   "XFree86-4.0.2-4mdk.src.rpm"
   To rebuild it, I've got to upgrade 4 files (freetype... and VGlide
   ). While I'm writting this message, I'm rebuilding this XFree
   source rpm file.
   Now the questions :
   - Do I need something else ?
   - How do I do to install this new XFree. ?
   - Do I have to uninstall XFree3.3.6 then install 4.02 ?
   All your help will be very appreciated, because I 'm really afraid
   about that upgrade.
   Thank you. Francois
  
  




Re: [newbie] Preliminary Survey Results

2001-01-18 Per discussione Sridhar Dhanapalan

On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 06:18, civileme wrote:
 Keep Mandrake as is : 20

 Add a "simple" option to install: 13 of whom 9 recommended a system

I guess it doesn't hurt to have a "simple" option, as long as nothing else 
changes. As a new user gets more experienced, they can make choices for 
themselves. I have made the below recommendations based on what I believe a 
newbie should begin with, and these should be included in the "simple 
install".

 KDE: 3  WindowMaker with OpenOffice: 1  FVWM with vi: 1   Sawfish with
 SIAG: 1  Gnome with Gnome-apps and Netscape: 1Helix-Code Gnome (Ximian
 Gnome): 1 Blackbox with both KDE and Gnome apps: 1

While I myself prefer GNOME, I think KDE is the best default desktop choice, 
as long as it is just as easy to choose something else. GNOME (preferably 
Ximian GNOME) should be included as well, so it can be chosen if the user 
wants and so the many GTK and GNOME apps can be run. XFce wouldn't be a bad 
choice either, particularly since it is small yet very functional. I have 
said it before (on the newbie list), and I'll say it again, I really like the 
menudrake system of uniform menus across desktop environments. This should be 
built upon in the future.

 Losers:  NO VOTES or less

 Mozilla

As pathetic as it is, we need Mozilla. Its cross-platform nature makes 
migration from Windos and the Mac easier. Also, it means that HTML pages 
rendered in Windos/Mac can look exactly the same in Linux. If Mozilla is 
being included, perhaps something lighter that uses Gekko (e.g. Galeon and/or 
SkipStone) should be too.

 Cooledit
 Kedit (KDE users wanted KWrite)

I quite like Kedit. It is small and fast, a real boon for slower systems. I 
usually bring up a text editor for jotting quick notes. I really get 
irritated when I have to wait for more than a second or two for the programme 
to load. Windos Notepad is good because it is small and very fast (note: this 
is not an endorsement of M$). We need something similar for Linux. If a user 
really needs more sophistication, then they can bring up KWrite or KWord.

 Joe  (One negative vote)

Mandrake badly needs a default console text editor that anyone can use. I 
could never figure out VIM, and after some experimentation I finally settled 
on Jed. Joe claims to be user-friendly, but I could never get the hang of it 
(although I admit I never read any of the documentation). I found Jed to be 
highly intuitive, very much like the MS-DOS Edit which I used to use.

 E

E is a great environment, and it really showcases how lovely the Linux 
desktop can look, particularly in comparison to Windos. I think it should be 
included.

 emacs(One negative vote)

Too powerful and complex for a newbie.

 nist (What-we-gonna-do-for-a-DVD-Player?)

Yes, we need a DVD player. Mandrake needs a more centralised media player 
(perhaps XMMP?). While I don't mind having several different players for 
different things, this could easily confuse newbies who have grown accustomed 
to programmes like Windows Media Player. Also, Mandrake needs better support 
for playing AVI, ASF and DivX movie files. To get these files working in 
mdk7.2, I had to compile the latest version of avifile myself. The Mandrake 
version of libaviplay combined with Xtheater did not work for me.

 IceWM(One negative vote)

A must. IceWM is a light, speedy WM that is also very functional from a 
newbie perspective (more so than E or WindowMaker). We must not neglect those 
with slower systems, since many people change over to Linux since they cannot 
afford or don't want to buy a faster computer. A light WM will also showcase 
Linux's speed. It's one thing getting Linux, but we need apps that grab 
people so that they will contimue to use it. Blackbox is another good choice 
here. It's not as user-friendly as IceWM, but it's very fast.

 gtoaster
 xcdroast

Gtoaster, X-CD-Roast and Gnome-Toaster are essential for CD burning. They all 
have their own strengths and weaknesses. I use all three, since they all 
complement each other very well.

 KVirc

An IRC client is mandatory, since IRC is a great way for a newbie to get 
help. I prefer Xchat to KVirc, though. It would also be good to include 
Mozilla's IRC client. A newsreader like Pan could be useful, too.

 Licq
 gAIM

We need a client for at least ICQ and AIM. Licq and GnomeICU are great for 
ICQ, with the former more suited to KDE and the latter to GNOME. While I 
haven't tried EveryBuddy, I have heard good things about it. A unified IM 
client would be great, as long as all features were supported.

 spruce
 elm
 mutt
 biff

For newbies, Kmail currently is the best, especially since it is integrated 
with Konqueror. Evolution should be great when it comes out, particularly for 
newbies since it looks like M$ Outlook. Mozilla's mail client is good because 
of its use of Gekko and is cross-platform.

 About 1000 others

A downloader like Downloader for X (my favourite) and/or GTM should be 
included, since browsers 

[newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Downloadable Version...

2001-01-18 Per discussione Chris Hall



hey all,
 Is the kde 2.0 that comes with 
the downloadable version of mandrake a beta version? I can't seem to find the 
theme manager in it. Thanks. 
  





 Chris


RE: [newbie] Mandrake / Redhat

2001-01-18 Per discussione Charles A Edwards




 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan Belkie
 Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 8:56 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] Mandrake / Redhat


 In a debate over Flavors of Linux, How different would you
 say Mandrake is
 from Redhat?



Dan
  At one time Mandrake was basicly RH with some extras, similar to what
VAlinux is now.
But with each released new versions they have become more divergent.
  Mandrakes basic package is still RPM, a RH child which was royally screwed
up in RH 7 with the introductoin of RPM 4, but even this should change in
the near future when Mandrake
offers widespread implementation of apt-get to its package management
system.
  Today Mandrake, RH, SuSE, Storm, etc. are all Linux and will always have
certain basics in common but each stands on its own as an OS and each IS
different from the other.

  If you wish a more embellished list of differences you are welcome to
contact me off list.
I shall endeavor and succeed in providing you with several pages.

   If your question was prompted by the quandary of deciding which to
install you should definitly aqueous to Mandrake 7.2, it is by far the
superior of the two especially when you consider that it can require the
services of Roto-Rooter to clean up the blockage that RH 7 can cause.

   Charles  (-:

Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.















Re: [newbie] No hard disk

2001-01-18 Per discussione eryl

Dan LaBine wrote:
 
 Dear Micha; You can't install Mandrake, because you don't have any free
 partitions left. You said that you had 3 - 10Gb partitions all formatted
 with DOS? you need at least one partition UNFORMATTED for Mandrake. 

One solution to this problem is to get a copy of PowerQuests Partition
Magic.  Install it in Windows, then use it to alter the size of your
partitions and free up enough space to install linux. I've done it many
times with many different operating systems.




Re: [newbie] Enlightenment install problem

2001-01-18 Per discussione Jesse C. Chang

Tim Goodaire wrote:

 I've been trying to edit the configure.in file to see if I can figure out
 how to get it to find the IMLIB_CONFIG and I'm not having any luck. It
 appears to be looking in $PREFIX/bin. What exactly is $PREFIX?
 
 Anyone have any ideas of how I can get this damn thing to compile?

$prefix is /usr/local (it should be near the top of configure.in).

Strange though, I didn't have any trouble installing E 0.16.5 a few weeks
ago.  You can try changing $prefix to /usr or enabling fsstd, but I have
no idea what the problem really is.  My imlib_config is also in /usr/bin,
and I actually tried installing E twice - with and without fsstd enabled -
and it worked fine both times.

I did have one problem though;  Linux Mandrake 7.1's graphical login
manager thing was still looking for E in /usr/bin (or wherever LM7.1's
installer CD-ROM puts it), even if I change .xsession to where the new
version of E was installed.  I actually renamed the old E (I guess I
should just delete it), and moved the new E to where the old E was.  I
really need to clean those duplicate E files up.  :)


Jesse
 
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Downloadable Version...

2001-01-18 Per discussione Michael O'Henly

There isn't one. Look for it in the upcoming KDE 2.1.

M.

On Thursday 18 January 2001 19:02, you wrote:
 hey all,
 Is the kde 2.0 that comes with the downloadable version of mandrake a
 beta version? I can't seem to find the theme manager in it. Thanks. Chris


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Re: [newbie] HDParm and DMA

2001-01-18 Per discussione jason-snyder

How do you know that the speed is increased?  I have been having problems where
when I use the -d1 option by itself, the next disk access locks things up.  I
get around this by explicitly setting the x-fer rate (-X66 for Ultra33, -X68
for Ultra66, and -X69 for Ultra100.)

"Blomquist, Niklas" wrote:

 Dear everyone!

 Is there anyone who has problem with using UDAM?

 When I turn on the UDMA the speed is increasing a lot, but I can't start any
 program. The Icons on the destop is removed when I click on the and the
 panel is gone when I click on that one...

 Any suggestions?

 /N





Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Downloadable Version...

2001-01-18 Per discussione Dennis Myers

On Friday 19 January 2001 03:02 am, you wrote:

  hey all,
 Is the kde 2.0 that comes with the downloadable version of mandrake a
 beta version? I can't seem to find the theme manager in it. Thanks. Chris


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7.2 doesn't have a theme manager in it. KDE 2.1+ is supposedly going to add a 
theme manager. but for now you have to use a somewhat cumbersome download and 
install(compared to the old thememanager) procedure. Sorry, I'm waiting too.
-- 
  Dennis M.
  Registered Linux user #180842




Re: SV: [newbie] HDParm and DMA

2001-01-18 Per discussione Sridhar Dhanapalan

Does your hard drive actually support DMA? If it doesn't you could damage 
your data (and possibly the drive itself) by having it turned on.

On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:56, Blomquist, Niklas wrote:
 I'm guess'n you're referring to 'hdparm -d1' /dev/hd*' ?

 That is correct, when I'm turns this on, the system become unstable and do
 strange things...

  What does  'hdparm -v /dev/hd*' say?

  Multcount = 16 on
 I/O Support = O
 unmaskirg = 0
 using_dma = 0
 keepsettings = 0
 nowerr = 0
 readonly = 0
 readahead = 8

 This is before I change anything.

 I can tweek it a little like:

 hdparm -X66 -u1 -c3 -m16 /dev/hda

 But I only get 9Mbs, when i turn on the -d1, i get 35, but I can't use the
 computer...

 /N

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[newbie] Download to CD?

2001-01-18 Per discussione Dave Burrows

I aim to write the downloadable files to CD.  How should the files be
distributed between the 2 (if even both CDs of data are included in the
downloadable files)?  Anyone work this way to install 7.2?  I read in one
place and here that only 1 CD is necessary to install the most important
files.  I read in the tutorial that space is frequently a limiting factor
in determining which components to install.  I read on the web pages that
the parts required for the download (Mandrake tree and Images tree) consume
1 Gig of HD space.. 2 CDs.  Any feedback?  Finally, any other parts of the
downloadable files "must have"?
-- 
Dave Burrows
741 Cleveland Road
Washington, PA  15301  
USA




[newbie] Compa LTE5300 Dock Sta.

2001-01-18 Per discussione kbrowne

I have Mandrake 6.5 installed as a standalone OS on my Compaq 
LTE 5300 laptop. 
*
Pentium 133mmx, 80 meg RAM, 1.3 GB HDD, sound, video, etc. 
Docking station is plugged into a 3 workstation peer to peer WIN 
9x network, laptop has a 33.6K USR (Megahertz) PCMIA modem. 
*
Install was done via CDROM in the docking station. Upon rebooting 
the system hangs while checking the PCMIA slot(s). I've 
uninstalled and reinstalled twice and get same result. If I take the 
laptop out of the docking station and run it off the power supply or 
battery it boots and runs just fine, including using the modem and 
kppp to connect to the internet. Pop it into the docking station and 
it never finishes the boot process. I've probably attempted booting 
in the docking station over 25 times with same (non) result. Any 
ideas?

  Your Correspondent typing in
Lee, MA  "The Gateway to the Berkshires"
  Ken Browne 




Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux

2001-01-18 Per discussione Sridhar Dhanapalan

If everything "has a purpose" then what exactly *is* Linux's purpose? Is it 
to run desktop workstations? Servers? Supercomputers? PDAs? Web pads? 
Wristwatches? Linux has been proven to run well on all these devices, and it 
is continuing to push both downwards (towards embedded devices, etc.) and 
upwards (towards high-end servers, etc.), while consolidating its position 
in the middle (desktop computers, etc.).

While I believe that Linux can be an excellent alternative to M$ Windos, I 
must admit that my greatest fear is that it will be "dumbed down" to cater 
for ordinary users. This fear, while not totally baseless, is unlikely to 
eventuate. There will always be serious computer users, who don't want a 
"dumb" OS. There are, and always will be, apps to cater for these people, 
especially since these are the people who code most Linux apps anyway. KDE 
too "dumb" for you? Use WindowMaker, or BlackBox, or XFce... Think the 
default Linux kernel is too bloated? Recompile it and include only what you 
need. Linux is the most scalable OS ever to exist, and this scalability is 
increasing with time. Linux can be whatever you make it to be. Want it to 
run a Windos competitor? With GNOME and KDE it already is. Want it to work at 
the enterprise level? Kernel 2.4 supports the high-end processors like the 
Itanium in multiprocessor configurations and up to 64GB of RAM. Want it to 
run a PDA? Compile a tiny kernel and run something like QT-embedded or 
GTK-embedded. And the most important point is that Linux excels in all these 
scenarios. See my point?


On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 03:35, Adrian Smith wrote:
 this will be a shock to you all, but i have an opinon here.   =)
 i agree with Tom -- although i fully confess Tom is much better at saying
 than I am.  probably because i am an obnoxious and arrogant and Tom isn't.

 but i can't figure this one out ether, why do you guys care so much about
 converting windoze users?  should we make 18 wheelers with automatic stick
 shifts so that everyone who drives a car can drive a semi-truck?

 a honda accord has a purpose.  a freightliner tractor/trailer rig has a
 purpose. they are not the same purpose.

 a hunting rifle has a purpose.  a 50mm vulcan cannon has a purpose.
 they are not the same purpose.

 windows has a purpose.  linux has a purpose.
 they are not the same purpose.

 use the right tool for the right job.

 if i wanted linux to be like windows, why wouldn't i have just kept using
 windows? i may not be the sharpest crayon in the box, but i just don't
 understand this. no product can be everything to everybody.  no product.
 name any one *specific* product that fills every need held by every person
 on the planet.

 i think the "must be like windows" concept is a bad thing.

 i'll try to stuff a sock in my mouth now.   =)


 Adrian Smith
 'de telepone dude
 Telecom Dept.
 x 7042
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  Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9:29:15 PM 1/17/01 

   OK y'all  !!This marks the last time I'm gonna start a thread
 starting with a news wire URL, well maybe ;  Actually I thought it was
 a business story that kind'a illustrated Linux's present state, and the
 perception of.

The first full install I did of Mandrake was ~500mb.  A current 'du
 -ch /' with my windoze drive umounted is ~4 gigs! ... and I've
 uninstalled a lot of the apps I don't use, and there's linux stuff on
 the windoze drive, not in that count.  I like it just the way it is,
 the installer that is.  What brandNewbie doesn't install several times
 before they 'settle in' ?  ...and for experienced users, it's easy,
 albeit time consuming, to install just what you want.  As much or
 little.  LM's installation let's YOU choose.  I believe there's nothin
 that needs changin.  I like the current trend in Mandrake's installs.

As to the 'convert windoze users', and get "linux on everybody's
 desktop' vein this thread has denigrated to.  WHO CARES?  Seriously, be
 more concerned that Linux continues to attract the people that built it
 to begin with ... the people all over the world that contribute to this
 free, open source, volunteer effort.  Without them, Linux is dead.

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
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