Re: [newbie-it] portatile - consigli

2003-03-24 Per discussione Andrea Celli
On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 23:06:50 +0100
Guido Milanese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dovrei comperare un notebook sul quale installare la Mandrake che uso a 
 casa con il desktop. Qualche consiglio? Il database della Mandrake non 
 è molto utile, dando come 'tested' solo prodotti della Asus e della 
 Clevo.

Ci sono dei siti specifici, ad es:
 http://www.linux-laptop.net/

Comunque, stai attento alle componenti effettivamente presenti sul laptop
che stai acquistando.
Per es. in Istituto abbiamo acquistato in più riprese dei laptop di uno stesso
modello: i primi avevano un soft-modem utilizzabile, l'ultimo una scheda
combo audio+modem configurable solo come audio.
Ufficialmente, sulle caratteristiche tecniche del produttore, c'è scritto
solo che il pc contiene un modem.

ciao, Andrea





[newbie-it] JDBC

2003-03-24 Per discussione Santarella Benedetto
Salve a tutti,
quale programma si usa per gestire i database con JDBC??
Sotto winzoz esisteva una icona nel pannello di controllo chiamata
tipo controllo ODBC (per ODBC), io cerco l'equivalente linux per JDBC!!

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[newbie-it] Leggere un archivio web (.MHT) di microsoft

2003-03-24 Per discussione mirko . cap
ho ricevuto via posta elettronica un file contenente archivi web in formato
.mht
in pratica sono una fusione di html e delle immagini in un unico file
il sistema operativo (MDK 9)li identifica come messaggi di posta elettronica
quindi mi chiedevo se esiste un modo per leggerli
Come posso fare?
mannaggia a questi file strani di Win$!
ciao a tutti

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[newbie-it] Kmail e predefinito

2003-03-24 Per discussione tom

Ave lista,
la domanda è piuttosto banale.
come si fa per cambiare l'indirizzo predefinito in Kmail?
sara che sono a casa con la febbre e non ho un cXXXo da fare,
ma cercando cercando non ho trovato nulla :-)

Ciao , Tom

  
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Re: [newbie-it] Kmail e predefinito

2003-03-24 Per discussione Luigi Pinna
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Alle 17:06, lunedì 24 marzo 2003, tom ha scritto:
 Ave lista,
 la domanda è piuttosto banale
 come si fa per cambiare l'indirizzo predefinito in Kmail?
 sara che sono a casa con la febbre e non ho un cXXXo da fare,
 ma cercando cercando non ho trovato nulla :-)

 Ciao , Tom

Hai provato a trasformare la cartella Mail in un link simbolico alla 
cartella che vuoi usare tu?
O intendevi l'indirizzo email che spedisci con kmail? In tal caso crei 
una nuova identità dal menù Impostazioni--configura kmail.
A quel punto potrai scegliere nella mail con che identità spedire (te lo 
troverai sopra il campo del destinatario.

Gigi

Ps. Ma sei di Sassari?

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Re: [newbie-it] Kmail e predefinito

2003-03-24 Per discussione tom
On Monday 24 March 2003 17:41, Luigi Pinna wrote:

 O intendevi l'indirizzo email che spedisci con kmail? In tal caso crei

yes

 una nuova identità dal menù Impostazioni--configura kmail.
 A quel punto potrai scegliere nella mail con che identità spedire (te lo
 troverai sopra il campo del destinatario.


tnx , ora provo..

 Gigi

Ciao , Tom

  
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Re: [newbie-it] consigli per un'installazione

2003-03-24 Per discussione Giorgio Griffon
Alle 22:12, sabato 22 marzo 2003, Arwan ha scritto:
 Alle Saturday 22 March 2003 16:02, a proposito di Re: [newbie-it] consigli
 per un'installazione (e chissa' a cosa pensava veramente), Giorgio Griffon
 ha

 scritto:
 Giorgio
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 Mitico...
 (ragazzi, non sapete in che razza di posti vada a pescare quelle cose li'
 che ci sono sul sito...)

Accipicchia, grazie per la pubblicità!





[newbie-it] connessione con modem ADSL

2003-03-24 Per discussione Paolo Schiavo



Chiedo aiuto!! Sono passato recentemente alla 
connessione con ADSL, pacchetto fornito da ALICE con modem Telindus Arescom 
ND220. Uso la Mandrake 9.0. Ho un riconoscimento della porta USB a cui è 
connesso (uno dei due lem del modem si accende), per configurarlo però è tutta 
un'altra storia. Il riconoscimento automatico mi propone la scelta tra una lista 
di driver di rete!?Il mio PC non ha nessuna connessione di rete! Come mi devo 
muovere. Sono un newbie assoluto! Grazie a chi vorrà 
aiutarmi!


Re: [newbie] error installing NVIDIA 1.0-4191 drivers

2003-03-24 Per discussione Derek Jennings
On Monday 24 Mar 2003 2:57 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Please forgive me if this post comes across with html formatting, I am
 accessing my email account thru AT$T's web site and I cannot find anywhere
 to change the settings.

 I finally decided to upgrade my nvidia drivers (again - seems to happen as
 often as Mandrake releases!) but this time I am receiving alot of
 unresolved symbol errors.

 Mandrake 9.0
 GeForce2 MMX w/64 ram
 NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-4191.tar.gz
 NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-4191.tar.gz

 From what I can find, it appears that my kernel does not match my
 kernel-header version:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-4191]# rpm -qa | grep kernel
 kernel-2.4.19.16mdk-1-1mdk
 kernel-headers-2.4.18-41mdk
 kernel-source-2.4.19-24mdk
 NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-4191.mdk90up
 kernel-doc-2.4.19-24mdk

 I tried this as well (but not too sure the path was correct)
 make install SYSINCLUDE=/usr/src/linux-2.4.19-24mdk

 with no luck.

 What advise would anybody have?  remove the kernel-source-2.4.19-24mdk and
 install kernel-source-2.4.19-16mdk?  Wait till 9.1 is out? (without startx
 till then...)

 Thanks for any help and or advise
 Steve

It will be the kernel-headers causing you problems. 
kernel-headers-2.4.19-16mdk will be on your CDs

derek

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[newbie] Radio

2003-03-24 Per discussione Pawel Nozderko
How to run my PixelView Station BT878p+ with Fm ?
I have instaled gradio and it doeasn't work, typed that the devises don't 
exist
what should i write:
ln -s /dev/? /dev/radio

And the 2nd problem is how to run my tv card ?
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Re: [newbie] just another cd burning question!

2003-03-24 Per discussione Damian Gatabria
On Monday 24 de March 2003 04:03, Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas wrote:
 In onother machine I have a cd-rom and a DVD!
 I want to remove the cd-rom, place de dvd on it's place and add a
 cd-burner!

 The question is:

 How about the upmi and alike? Do I have to rebuild the database ?
 If so, how?

AFAIK no.

 The plain replacing of cd to a dvd could work?

yeah.

 There is no scsi emulation!

you will have to add it manually. Editing /etc/lilo.conf
and adding hdx=ide-scsi to the append line and running
lilo  is enough. (replace hdx with the real name for the cd-rw
device)


 Ricardo


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RE: [newbie] supermount

2003-03-24 Per discussione Tsur, Oren
I have been trying a few things, thinking the mounting had something to with
it. Well maybe it does. I found that both, supermount and user worked the
same (9.0). In fact I got so confused with mounting and rights, I ended up
re-installing mandrake. After that I logged in as root and gave myself
rights to all removable-media drives (keeping mounting option as
supermount). It is working like a dream now. Also boot in grub, it made a
difference to me

Oren Tsur

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] supermount


If turning off supermount is applied right away (which I assume is the
case), no, it didn't work.  I was trying to make a boot disk with no
luck, turned off supermount, tried again -without- re opening the
control center or anything, and it still didn't work.

R

On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 17:00, Miark wrote:
 On 21 Mar 2003 16:41:25 -0500
 R.L.M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Both my CDROM and Floppy are set to supermount.  CDROM works fine, but
  my Floppy is giving me errors... input/output error, you do not have
  permission, etc.  Any idea why my floppy isn't working (I just got a new
  one thinking it was the floppy itself..)?
 
 Are you able to manually mount it (after turning off supermount) ?
 
 Miark 
 
 
 

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RE: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast

2003-03-24 Per discussione Tsur, Oren
I followed Miark's suggestion and made the change to lilo.conf

append=quiet devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi . It did not make a
difference.
When starting my x-cd-roast my DVD-ROM was still undetected, But then,
AHAAA!!!

I changed my booting agent to grub. PRESTO Everything is working
tralala!!!

So, ideas anyone? Every time I start my computer I get more confused, but
that is well cool!
Learning innit?

Oren 

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Subject: Re: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast


El Jue 20 Mar 2003 08:05, Tsur, Oren escribió:
 Hi All

 Before I start, I am using KDE under MDK 9.0 -

 1) How do I get X-CD-Roast to see my DVD-ROM drive? I want to use it as
 primary or secondary reading device. When I go
into
 set up it shows my cd-rw as the recording device (which is fineda)
 but in the reading device I can only see the recorder drive again.
 Many thanks, Oren

Oren: From www.xcdroast.org, download the last version (0.98alpha13), and
you 
don't need SCSI emulate your DVD reader.

Suerte.

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through the IDE driver, without the help of SCSI emulation.
However, that mode is still experimental and causes some problems.
Using a CD writer in that mode is not recommended - please use always
SCSI emulation here. The ATAPI mode on a writer will cause great delays
in all X-CD-Roast operations, because communication with a device takes
much more time. You will also notice a lot of driver errors in your
system log files. This seems to be normal.

You can tell X-CD-Roast to ignore the ATAPI mode when you start it with the
-a option.

There is also no DMA transfer supported at all though the ATAPI interface.

On some not correctly installed machines X-CD-Roast will find your devices
both via SCSI emulation and via ATAPI - they are displayed double in the
setup. Things could work nevertheless, but use the scsi-emulated devices
only then. (The devices without the ATAPI:-marking)

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Re: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast

2003-03-24 Per discussione John Richard Smith
Tsur, Oren wrote:

I followed Miark's suggestion and made the change to lilo.conf

append=quiet devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi . It did not make a
difference.
When starting my x-cd-roast my DVD-ROM was still undetected, But then,
AHAAA!!!
But did rou run /sbin/lilo in a terminal to get the changes to 
/etc/lilo.conf adopted ?

I changed my booting agent to grub. PRESTO Everything is working
tralala!!!


Oren 
 



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Re: [newbie] 9.1 CD format

2003-03-24 Per discussione Adolfo Bello
On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 01:39, Guy Rouillier wrote:

 Well, I can't help with your original question - sorry.  But I bought a
 pack of the cheapest CD-R's available - Optimum - got a 50 pack for 94
 **cents**.  And I haven't had a single error on the 10 that I've burned
 so far.  Before you toss your Memorex blanks, I would give one to a
 friend to test. Maybe your CD-RW just doesn't like them for some strange
 reason.
At first I was really alarmed thinking that something might be wrong
with my CD burner. To make myself sure I also burned them (the 9,1 CD's)
in another box with the same outcome.

I will try today in one of the company PC's.

Gracias
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Re: [newbie] shutdown is not swith off!

2003-03-24 Per discussione Adolfo Bello
On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 03:13, Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas wrote:
 After the upgrading from mdk8.1 to mdk9.0 the shutdown or halt commands are 
 not switching off the computer anymore!
 
 The screen holds on:
 Power down
 
 And then I have to switch off mannually.
 
 Any help?
 
 TIA
 
 Ricardo

I also had this kind of problem. What I did was to recompile the kernel
turning ACPI on.
(a few days ago somebody said that it has nothing to do with it. But it
worked for me)

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[newbie] /home ownership changes itself

2003-03-24 Per discussione Vahur Lokk
Hello!

I have installed Mandrake 9.0. Yesterday I installed ALT Linux Junior (Russian 
Mandrake derivative) on an empty partition. Both installations share one 
/home partition.
Problem is, if I have used ALTLinux and reboot to Mandrake, my home directory 
belongs to another user. If I use Mandrake and reboot to ALT Linux my home 
directory belongs to user 501. In both cases I have to log in as root first, 
change directory ownership and only then log in as user.
What is the problem and how to cure it?

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Re: [newbie] Trouble with USB mouse on Toshiba Laptop

2003-03-24 Per discussione Adolfo Bello
On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 03:09, Mungandi, Fred wrote:
 Hi, 
 
 I am a newbie to Linux. Over the weekend, I installed Mandrake 9.0 on
 a Toshiba Satellite 1905-S301 laptop. The little devil is powered by a
 P4 running at 2 GHz, has 40 GB HDD and 256 MB RAM. I installed it in a
 dual boot arrangement with Windows XP. 
 
 The laptop has a touch pad mouse, which I do not use. Instead I use a
 Genius PowerScroll USB mouse connected through one of the two USB
 ports. It has no PS2 port at all. I also hooked up a USB keyboard in
 the remaining USB port. 
 
 The problem is that the USB mouse does not work well. When X starts,
 the mouse only moves in the vertical direction with no horizontal
 movement at all. When I remove the mouse during startup and plug it in
 later when X has started, all goes well. It seems that hell breaks
 loose during startup, probably during auto probe. Could this be a
 problem with modprobe? Do I need a USB mouse driver of some sort?
 Please help I am very desperate. I am on the verge of giving up.
 
 Fred Mungandi
 
 Lusaka, Zambia
 Tel: +260-1-254303
 Fax: +260-1-254532
 Cell: +260-97-841560
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I have a Toshiba 5005-S504 and my mouse is working nicely.

It was detected as a USB wheel mouse by Mandrake. Mine is a Microsoft
Intellimouse Optical.

Anyway, go to Mandrake Control Center-Hardware-Mouse and try different
ones. Maybe you find the right one in there.

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RE: [newbie] shutdown is not swath off!

2003-03-24 Per discussione Tsur, Oren
Adolfo,

For the newbies who are still not very conversant with Linux in general and
Mandrake in particular, please can you show (or refer us to a place which
will show this) how this is done?

With all respect to Linux, it would be nice to use the computer as we all
did under 
M$ Window$. Meaning when you ask your computer to shut down, it actually
does it. ;o)

Many thanks, Oren

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From: Adolfo Bello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 March 2003 12:06
To: MDK Mandrake
Subject: Re: [newbie] shutdown is not swith off!


On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 03:13, Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas wrote:
 After the upgrading from mdk8.1 to mdk9.0 the shutdown or halt commands
are 
 not switching off the computer anymore!
 
 The screen holds on:
 Power down
 
 And then I have to switch off mannually.
 
 Any help?
 
 TIA
 
 Ricardo

I also had this kind of problem. What I did was to recompile the kernel
turning ACPI on.
(a few days ago somebody said that it has nothing to do with it. But it
worked for me)

Saludos
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Re: [newbie] shutdown is not swath off!

2003-03-24 Per discussione Anne Wilson
Recompiling the kernel is not trivial.  Most of us can shut down without 
having to do this, so it should be left until you have no other option.  I'm 
not sure where you can check your power settings - it's not where it used to 
be - but I'm sure someone will tell you.  You may have said it already, but 
anyway, please tell us what your power settings in bios are.

Anne

On Monday 24 Mar 2003 12:22 pm, Tsur, Oren wrote:
 Adolfo,

 For the newbies who are still not very conversant with Linux in general and
 Mandrake in particular, please can you show (or refer us to a place which
 will show this) how this is done?

 With all respect to Linux, it would be nice to use the computer as we all
 did under
 M$ Window$. Meaning when you ask your computer to shut down, it actually
 does it. ;o)

 Many thanks, Oren

 -Original Message-
 From: Adolfo Bello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 24 March 2003 12:06
 To: MDK Mandrake
 Subject: Re: [newbie] shutdown is not swith off!

 On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 03:13, Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas wrote:
  After the upgrading from mdk8.1 to mdk9.0 the shutdown or halt commands

 are

  not switching off the computer anymore!
 
  The screen holds on:
  Power down
 
  And then I have to switch off mannually.
 
  Any help?
 
  TIA
 
  Ricardo

 I also had this kind of problem. What I did was to recompile the kernel
 turning ACPI on.
 (a few days ago somebody said that it has nothing to do with it. But it
 worked for me)

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RE: [newbie] File encryption software

2003-03-24 Per discussione Jamie . Kerwick
Thanks for all of the replies on this topic.. Still not too sure what is the
best way of going really. 

The reason for encryption is that the files contain personal data which we
don't want to pass clear text.

In an ideal world the files will unencrypt themselves as the people we are
sending the files are idiots ;) so we have to make it as simple as possible
for them! The caveat for this is that they us windows so it would need to be
an m$ executable file that is created.

We already have a tool that can do what I want, but it needs M$ to do the
encryption as well, I guess I could experiment using this under dosemu /
wine. As the enryption process is done via a script can dosemu be run
scripted rather than interactively (ie the program I have prompts for a
password, can I feen the password in via the (dosemu) calling script
instead?)

Thanks for ALL of your help,

Jamie


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-Original Message-
From: Adolfo Bello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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To: MDK Mandrake
Subject: Re: [newbie] File encryption software


On Sat, 2003-03-22 at 13:41, David E. Fox wrote:

 Well, pkzip can create self-extracting executables, of course. But 
 we've had them too for as long as I can remember -- they're callsed 
 shell archives. Still you need some way to encrypt the file. On the 
 other hand, if the OP wants to be able to extract (cleartext) files, 
 why should the archive be encrypted in the first place?
 
 In case people aren't familiar with them, shell archives are really 
 kind of neat in that they contain a shell script that extracts the 
 files inside the shell script,via what's called  'here' documents (in 
 shell, this is a 'file' that's embedded in a script.)
 
 #! /bin/sh
 # sample here document extractor
 cat extracted-file !EOF
 *
 this is a test of the emergency broadcast system this is only a test
 
 !EOF
 
 More recently, we see self-extracting archives where all the (binary) 
 data is embedded in the script -- for example, open office's 
 installer.
Good one.

Using uuencode/uudecode the problem is solved even for binaries.

The only part missing is the encryption. 
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Re: [newbie] shutdown is not swath off!

2003-03-24 Per discussione Lanman
You could also try installing apmd, which handles power management.
It's also possible that it's installed, but not running. Check to see if
it's activated in your services (Mandrake Control
CenterSystemServices) to see if it's activated at boot. If you don't
find it in the list of services, it's probably not installed.

APMD will usually manage your power-off function by communicating with
acpi, but it may also shut your monitor down into standby mode after 15
minutes or so. However, if you don't like that feature, you can edit
your XF86Config-4 file found in /etc/X11, and comment out the Option
line regarding DPMS. Then restart your X server.

Lanman


On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 07:54, Anne Wilson wrote:
 Recompiling the kernel is not trivial.  Most of us can shut down without 
 having to do this, so it should be left until you have no other option.  I'm 
 not sure where you can check your power settings - it's not where it used to 
 be - but I'm sure someone will tell you.  You may have said it already, but 
 anyway, please tell us what your power settings in bios are.
 
 Anne
 
 On Monday 24 Mar 2003 12:22 pm, Tsur, Oren wrote:
  Adolfo,
 
  For the newbies who are still not very conversant with Linux in general and
  Mandrake in particular, please can you show (or refer us to a place which
  will show this) how this is done?
 
  With all respect to Linux, it would be nice to use the computer as we all
  did under
  M$ Window$. Meaning when you ask your computer to shut down, it actually
  does it. ;o)
 
  Many thanks, Oren
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Adolfo Bello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 24 March 2003 12:06
  To: MDK Mandrake
  Subject: Re: [newbie] shutdown is not swith off!
 
  On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 03:13, Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas wrote:
   After the upgrading from mdk8.1 to mdk9.0 the shutdown or halt commands
 
  are
 
   not switching off the computer anymore!
  
   The screen holds on:
   Power down
  
   And then I have to switch off mannually.
  
   Any help?
  
   TIA
  
   Ricardo
 
  I also had this kind of problem. What I did was to recompile the kernel
  turning ACPI on.
  (a few days ago somebody said that it has nothing to do with it. But it
  worked for me)
 
  Saludos


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Re: [newbie] /home ownership changes itself

2003-03-24 Per discussione Derek Jennings
On Monday 24 Mar 2003 12:07 pm, Vahur Lokk wrote:
 Hello!

 I have installed Mandrake 9.0. Yesterday I installed ALT Linux Junior
 (Russian Mandrake derivative) on an empty partition. Both installations
 share one /home partition.
 Problem is, if I have used ALTLinux and reboot to Mandrake, my home
 directory belongs to another user. If I use Mandrake and reboot to ALT
 Linux my home directory belongs to user 501. In both cases I have to log in
 as root first, change directory ownership and only then log in as user.
 What is the problem and how to cure it?

 Wahur


When files are saved in Linux the ownership of the file is saved as the UID 
number (User Identification Number) of the user. What you have done is assign 
different UID numbers in each of the two distributions. By default Mandrake 
will assign UID of 501 to the first user, then 502 etc.  Most likely AltLinux 
does the same, but if you assigned users in a different order when you 
installed, you will end up with different UID numbering.

The solution is to use kuser or Linuxconf to reassign the UID numbers (not 
userdrake) and then chown all the files in your /home.

HTH

derek


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RE: [newbie] shutdown is not swath off!

2003-03-24 Per discussione Tsur, Oren
This looks like very good solid advice. 
I will try it later today and will let you know;o)

Ann Also thank you, I think you are absolutely right. Good solid OS
shouldn't be about running to THE CODE all the time. Open source should not
be the opposite or not in-line of user friendly!

Oren Tsur

-Original Message-
From: Lanman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 March 2003 13:22
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] shutdown is not swath off!


You could also try installing apmd, which handles power management.
It's also possible that it's installed, but not running. Check to see if
it's activated in your services (Mandrake Control
CenterSystemServices) to see if it's activated at boot. If you don't
find it in the list of services, it's probably not installed.

APMD will usually manage your power-off function by communicating with
acpi, but it may also shut your monitor down into standby mode after 15
minutes or so. However, if you don't like that feature, you can edit
your XF86Config-4 file found in /etc/X11, and comment out the Option
line regarding DPMS. Then restart your X server.

Lanman


On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 07:54, Anne Wilson wrote:
 Recompiling the kernel is not trivial.  Most of us can shut down without 
 having to do this, so it should be left until you have no other option.
I'm 
 not sure where you can check your power settings - it's not where it used
to 
 be - but I'm sure someone will tell you.  You may have said it already,
but 
 anyway, please tell us what your power settings in bios are.
 
 Anne
 
 On Monday 24 Mar 2003 12:22 pm, Tsur, Oren wrote:
  Adolfo,
 
  For the newbies who are still not very conversant with Linux in general
and
  Mandrake in particular, please can you show (or refer us to a place
which
  will show this) how this is done?
 
  With all respect to Linux, it would be nice to use the computer as we
all
  did under
  M$ Window$. Meaning when you ask your computer to shut down, it actually
  does it. ;o)
 
  Many thanks, Oren
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Adolfo Bello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 24 March 2003 12:06
  To: MDK Mandrake
  Subject: Re: [newbie] shutdown is not swith off!
 
  On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 03:13, Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas wrote:
   After the upgrading from mdk8.1 to mdk9.0 the shutdown or halt
commands
 
  are
 
   not switching off the computer anymore!
  
   The screen holds on:
   Power down
  
   And then I have to switch off mannually.
  
   Any help?
  
   TIA
  
   Ricardo
 
  I also had this kind of problem. What I did was to recompile the kernel
  turning ACPI on.
  (a few days ago somebody said that it has nothing to do with it. But it
  worked for me)
 
  Saludos




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[newbie] Testing that I can post again.

2003-03-24 Per discussione Keith Powell
Just over two weeks ago, for no apparent reason, I suddenly stopped receiving 
anything from either the newbie or the expert lists. 

After a lot of work and co-operation between Mandrake and my ISP, they appear 
to have sorted the problems and things now seem to be back to normal. At 
least, I am now receiving again.

Before telling my ISP that all is well, I want to check that I can send to the 
list.

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Re: [newbie] packetCD

2003-03-24 Per discussione ivette brusselmans
Mandrake 9.0 can't read my packetCD, but this probably has to do with the 
fact that I used packetCD compression, and all the files on the CD appear in 
Mandrake as programs (cogwheels), with question marks behind them.
Thanx








From: Graham Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] packetCD
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 19:59:21 +
Greg Meyer wrote:
On Thursday 20 March 2003 05:27 am, ivette brusselmans wrote:

Anyone any experience with reading CDrw's in UDF-format (packetCD 
directCD)
in Mandrake.

Can't be done yet.  It is experimental in the 2.5.x kernel right now.

Not so. I've been doing this since MDK 7.2 at least.

Up until 8.2 I'd mount them from the command line with: mount -t udf 
/dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom.

However, in MDK9 (which I've only been using for a couple of weeks) they 
seem to mount automatically.

Writing to them is a different kettle of worms altogether.  So far as I 
know it can't be done yet.  This is a shame because it's one of the very 
few things that forces me to keep Windoze on my system - well, that and 
lack of support for my scanner.

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Re: [newbie] Radio

2003-03-24 Per discussione Ronald J. Hall
On Monday 24 March 2003 05:14 am, Pawel Nozderko wrote:
 How to run my PixelView Station BT878p+ with Fm ?
 I have instaled gradio and it doeasn't work, typed that the devises don't
 exist
 what should i write:
 ln -s /dev/? /dev/radio

Under the Mandrake Control Center, hardware, TV card. You can click the button 
that enables radio support.

 And the 2nd problem is how to run my tv card ?

It will also setup your TV card with XawTV.

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RE: [newbie] File encryption software

2003-03-24 Per discussione Leonardo Diciolla
What about using pgp? It encrypts files end email with
a customised privacy level (key lenght)?

Leonardo Diciolla

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:  Thanks
for all of the replies on this topic.. Still
 not too sure what is the
 best way of going really. 
 
 The reason for encryption is that the files contain
 personal data which we
 don't want to pass clear text.
 
 In an ideal world the files will unencrypt
 themselves as the people we are
 sending the files are idiots ;) so we have to make
 it as simple as possible
 for them! The caveat for this is that they us
 windows so it would need to be
 an m$ executable file that is created.
 
 We already have a tool that can do what I want, but
 it needs M$ to do the
 encryption as well, I guess I could experiment using
 this under dosemu /
 wine. As the enryption process is done via a script
 can dosemu be run
 scripted rather than interactively (ie the program I
 have prompts for a
 password, can I feen the password in via the
 (dosemu) calling script
 instead?)
 
 Thanks for ALL of your help,
 
 Jamie
 
 
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 Internal Extension : 5806
 Direct Dial: 0870 754 5806
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Adolfo Bello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 22 March 2003 18:27
 To: MDK Mandrake
 Subject: Re: [newbie] File encryption software
 
 
 On Sat, 2003-03-22 at 13:41, David E. Fox wrote:
 
  Well, pkzip can create self-extracting
 executables, of course. But 
  we've had them too for as long as I can remember
 -- they're callsed 
  shell archives. Still you need some way to encrypt
 the file. On the 
  other hand, if the OP wants to be able to extract
 (cleartext) files, 
  why should the archive be encrypted in the first
 place?
  
  In case people aren't familiar with them, shell
 archives are really 
  kind of neat in that they contain a shell script
 that extracts the 
  files inside the shell script,via what's called 
 'here' documents (in 
  shell, this is a 'file' that's embedded in a
 script.)
  
  #! /bin/sh
  # sample here document extractor
  cat extracted-file !EOF
  *
  this is a test of the emergency broadcast system
 this is only a test
  
  !EOF
  
  More recently, we see self-extracting archives
 where all the (binary) 
  data is embedded in the script -- for example,
 open office's 
  installer.
 Good one.
 
 Using uuencode/uudecode the problem is solved even
 for binaries.
 
 The only part missing is the encryption. 
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[newbie] lilo troubles (RH-related)

2003-03-24 Per discussione Raffaele Belardi
I'm helping a friend install RedHat7.3. I realize now how good the MDK 
distributions are!

We are trying to have a dual boot with W2K. The problem is that after RH 
installation, LILO does not show the W2K option. No problem, we think, 
let's boot in linux and insert in lilo.conf the additional entry, but it 
doesn't work: lilo refuses to upgrade the MBR because it does not see 
the partition hda5 (were W2K is).
Looking better, we see that hda5 is not mounted at all. So we mkdir 
/mnt/windows and add a new entry in fstab with appropriate parameters. 
But now mount /mnt/windows reveals that ntfs is not build into the 
kernel. We try an insmod ntfs, but the module cannot be located: it's 
not present in the /lib/modules/.../ directory. :-(

My understanding is that lilo refuses to upgrade the bootloader because 
it first tries to validate the lilo.conf accessing the partitions there 
indicated, but in our case fails because there is no ntfs support in the 
kernel and exits.

It there a way around this mess?

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RE: [newbie] Trouble with USB mouse on Toshiba Laptop

2003-03-24 Per discussione Mungandi, Fred
Title: RE: [newbie] Trouble with USB mouse on Toshiba Laptop





Suerte, 


Thanks for your response. I have tried all the mouse options under Mandrake Control Centre. Nothings works so far.


Fred


-Original Message-
From: Adolfo Bello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:11 PM
To: MDK Mandrake
Subject: Re: [newbie] Trouble with USB mouse on Toshiba Laptop



On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 03:09, Mungandi, Fred wrote:
 Hi, 
 
 I am a newbie to Linux. Over the weekend, I installed Mandrake 9.0 on
 a Toshiba Satellite 1905-S301 laptop. The little devil is powered by a
 P4 running at 2 GHz, has 40 GB HDD and 256 MB RAM. I installed it in a
 dual boot arrangement with Windows XP. 
 
 The laptop has a touch pad mouse, which I do not use. Instead I use a
 Genius PowerScroll USB mouse connected through one of the two USB
 ports. It has no PS2 port at all. I also hooked up a USB keyboard in
 the remaining USB port. 
 
 The problem is that the USB mouse does not work well. When X starts,
 the mouse only moves in the vertical direction with no horizontal
 movement at all. When I remove the mouse during startup and plug it in
 later when X has started, all goes well. It seems that hell breaks
 loose during startup, probably during auto probe. Could this be a
 problem with modprobe? Do I need a USB mouse driver of some sort?
 Please help I am very desperate. I am on the verge of giving up.
 
 Fred Mungandi
 
 Lusaka, Zambia
 Tel: +260-1-254303
 Fax: +260-1-254532
 Cell: +260-97-841560
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I have a Toshiba 5005-S504 and my mouse is working nicely.


It was detected as a USB wheel mouse by Mandrake. Mine is a Microsoft
Intellimouse Optical.


Anyway, go to Mandrake Control Center-Hardware-Mouse and try different
ones. Maybe you find the right one in there.


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[newbie] Re: Radio

2003-03-24 Per discussione Pawel Nozderko
Is any body know what should symbolic linc include:
ls /dev/? /dev/radio

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Re: [newbie] error installing NVIDIA 1.0-4191 drivers

2003-03-24 Per discussione ampster40
Looks like no choice as to top or bottom posting thru AT$T's web site!

Derek,
I am at work, so there is no way to confirm that kernel-headers-2.4.19-16mdk is 
on the cd's - however looking thru the mirrors this morning, I find kernel-
headers-2.4.18-41mdk is what is available for 9.0

If you have it or know where I could find kernel-headers-2.4.19-16mdk I would 
sure be thankfull.  I have done a search, and found nothing close to that.

Thanks
Steve
 On Monday 24 Mar 2003 2:57 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Please forgive me if this post comes across with html formatting, I am
  accessing my email account thru AT$T's web site and I cannot find anywhere
  to change the settings.
 
  I finally decided to upgrade my nvidia drivers (again - seems to happen as
  often as Mandrake releases!) but this time I am receiving alot of
  unresolved symbol errors.
 
  Mandrake 9.0
  GeForce2 MMX w/64 ram
  NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-4191.tar.gz
  NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-4191.tar.gz
 
  From what I can find, it appears that my kernel does not match my
  kernel-header version:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-4191]# rpm -qa | grep kernel
  kernel-2.4.19.16mdk-1-1mdk
  kernel-headers-2.4.18-41mdk
  kernel-source-2.4.19-24mdk
  NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-4191.mdk90up
  kernel-doc-2.4.19-24mdk
 
  I tried this as well (but not too sure the path was correct)
  make install SYSINCLUDE=/usr/src/linux-2.4.19-24mdk
 
  with no luck.
 
  What advise would anybody have?  remove the kernel-source-2.4.19-24mdk and
  install kernel-source-2.4.19-16mdk?  Wait till 9.1 is out? (without startx
  till then...)
 
  Thanks for any help and or advise
  Steve
 
 It will be the kernel-headers causing you problems. 
 kernel-headers-2.4.19-16mdk will be on your CDs
 
 derek


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Re: [newbie] error installing NVIDIA 1.0-4191 drivers

2003-03-24 Per discussione Derek
Sorry My mistake. I assumed the 2.4.19 kernel headers would be on the CD, but 
you are correct they are 2.4.18.
I do not understand why the kernel headers should be for a different version 
of the kernel, and I cannot find any other version available.

Personally I use the precompiled drivers from Mandrake Club, but this guide 
might be of some use to you 
http://www.icculus.org/~dolson/mdkxp/?c=ttrls/nvidiacli

derek



On Monday 24 Mar 2003 3:12 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Looks like no choice as to top or bottom posting thru AT$T's web site!

 Derek,
 I am at work, so there is no way to confirm that
 kernel-headers-2.4.19-16mdk is on the cd's - however looking thru the
 mirrors this morning, I find kernel- headers-2.4.18-41mdk is what is
 available for 9.0

 If you have it or know where I could find kernel-headers-2.4.19-16mdk I
 would sure be thankfull.  I have done a search, and found nothing close to
 that.

 Thanks
 Steve

  On Monday 24 Mar 2003 2:57 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Please forgive me if this post comes across with html formatting, I am
   accessing my email account thru AT$T's web site and I cannot find
   anywhere to change the settings.
  
   I finally decided to upgrade my nvidia drivers (again - seems to happen
   as often as Mandrake releases!) but this time I am receiving alot of
   unresolved symbol errors.
  
   Mandrake 9.0
   GeForce2 MMX w/64 ram
   NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-4191.tar.gz
   NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-4191.tar.gz
  
   From what I can find, it appears that my kernel does not match my
   kernel-header version:
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-4191]# rpm -qa | grep kernel
   kernel-2.4.19.16mdk-1-1mdk
   kernel-headers-2.4.18-41mdk
   kernel-source-2.4.19-24mdk
   NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-4191.mdk90up
   kernel-doc-2.4.19-24mdk
  
   I tried this as well (but not too sure the path was correct)
   make install SYSINCLUDE=/usr/src/linux-2.4.19-24mdk
  
   with no luck.
  
   What advise would anybody have?  remove the kernel-source-2.4.19-24mdk
   and install kernel-source-2.4.19-16mdk?  Wait till 9.1 is out? (without
   startx till then...)
  
   Thanks for any help and or advise
   Steve
 
  It will be the kernel-headers causing you problems.
  kernel-headers-2.4.19-16mdk will be on your CDs
 
  derek


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Re: [newbie] error installing NVIDIA 1.0-4191 drivers

2003-03-24 Per discussione ampster40
I just became a Mandrake Club member this past weekend so I will go find those 
precompiled drivers.  Will take a look at that link as well.  I have installed -
then upgraded Nvidia drivers quite a few times now but never ran into this 
problem.  yanc (HTH - some program for tweaking Nvidia drivers) would not 
install either and I suspect it might be the same problem.  

Thanks for the pointers Derek, will take a look at those options tonight.

Steve
 Sorry My mistake. I assumed the 2.4.19 kernel headers would be on the CD, but 
 you are correct they are 2.4.18.
 I do not understand why the kernel headers should be for a different version 
 of the kernel, and I cannot find any other version available.
 
 Personally I use the precompiled drivers from Mandrake Club, but this guide 
 might be of some use to you 
 http://www.icculus.org/~dolson/mdkxp/?c=ttrls/nvidiacli
 
 derek

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Re: [newbie] lilo troubles (RH-related)

2003-03-24 Per discussione Leonardo Diciolla
Raffaele,
did you install lilo on your root / partition or on
your master partition?
Do you want to dual boot your machine or only mount
your ntfs partition? If you want to mount it you have
to compile the ntfs module at least and then go with
modprobe or insmod. That doesn't depend upon Lilo.

Leonardo.


 --- Raffaele Belardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha
scritto:  I'm helping a friend install RedHat7.3. I
realize
 now how good the MDK 
 distributions are!
 
 We are trying to have a dual boot with W2K. The
 problem is that after RH 
 installation, LILO does not show the W2K option. No
 problem, we think, 
 let's boot in linux and insert in lilo.conf the
 additional entry, but it 
 doesn't work: lilo refuses to upgrade the MBR
 because it does not see 
 the partition hda5 (were W2K is).
 Looking better, we see that hda5 is not mounted at
 all. So we mkdir 
 /mnt/windows and add a new entry in fstab with
 appropriate parameters. 
 But now mount /mnt/windows reveals that ntfs is not
 build into the 
 kernel. We try an insmod ntfs, but the module cannot
 be located: it's 
 not present in the /lib/modules/.../ directory. :-(
 
 My understanding is that lilo refuses to upgrade the
 bootloader because 
 it first tries to validate the lilo.conf accessing
 the partitions there 
 indicated, but in our case fails because there is no
 ntfs support in the 
 kernel and exits.
 
 It there a way around this mess?
 
 raffaele
 
 
 
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Re: [newbie] Re: Radio

2003-03-24 Per discussione Ronald J. Hall
On Monday 24 March 2003 10:21 am, Pawel Nozderko wrote:
 Is any body know what should symbolic linc include:
 ls /dev/? /dev/radio

Here, I have this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]$ ls radio*
radio@  radio0  radio1  radio2  radio3  radio4  radio5  radio6  radio7

[EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]$ ls -al radio
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root6 Mar 20 23:24 radio - radio0

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[newbie] Apache permission problems

2003-03-24 Per discussione Andrew Miller
Having problems with file permissions and Apache on a Mandrake 9.0 box. 
 Error message is:

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /bookmarks2.htm on this server.
Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer/1.3.26 Server at mail.shadowdog.com Port 
80

Permissions for the enclosing directories for the site are as follows:

drwxr-xr-x   10 root root 4096 Mar 17 13:12 home/
drwx--x--x4 shadowdog apache   4096 Nov 19 08:43 shadowdog/
drwxr-xr-x   11 shadowdog apache   4096 Mar  5 10:13 public_html/
I've been through this before, but can't seem to remember what the 
magic permission combo is.  Any help is appreciated.

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RE: [newbie] Trouble with USB mouse on Toshiba Laptop

2003-03-24 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 01:36, Mungandi, Fred wrote:
 Suerte, 
 
 Thanks for your response. I have tried all the mouse options under
 Mandrake Control Centre. Nothings works so far.
 
 Fred
 
Have you tried running mousedrake from a terminal?
You should be able to just choose a generic USB wheel mouse...

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Re: [newbie] 9.1 CD format

2003-03-24 Per discussione H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 24 March 2003 20:08, Adolfo Bello wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 14:32, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
  On Monday 24 March 2003 06:30, Adolfo Bello wrote:
   (Any idea about the 100% processor load?)
  
   Saludos
 
  That's just konq trying to read the file systems on those CD's and not
  really getting there.
 
  Good luck,
  HarM

 It also happened with no CD inside the tray.

 Thanks for the response.

Yeah, well keventd is one or other KDE prog starting up AFAIK. So there is 
something starting up and not working as it should, probably konq I'd guess.

Usually, if I get suspicious of KDE in general I start up an Icewm-session 
(because of the cpu activity gauge bottom left) just to be sure.

Simple enough, if the cpu load is significantly lower (in Icewm) KDE is the 
chief culprit. Frankly, it usually is due to it's very nature trying 
to 'feel' like windows/xp.

Actually, your 'empty' /boot directory after the power failure is IMO much 
more discerning.
I've had quite a few self brought on catastrofes untill now, but never 
something like that. Tell us more!
The more gory details, the better!;o)

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Re: [newbie] how to bounce 'To:' addresses

2003-03-24 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 05:21, Ibly Piblo wrote:
 I have learned how to bounce
 spam and other unwanted mail
 back, but I would like to know
 if anyone here knows how to 
 bounce spam back by the to:
 address instead of the from
 domain, or ip address.
 
 I am looking to bounce all mail
 that is addressed to Undisclosed.Recipients@
 back to the sender.
 
 Wo8uld anyon eknow what I should type
 in /etc/mail/access ?
 
 Or would this be a procmail recipe?
 
 If that is the case, (procmail)
 would some kind soul please tell
 me what to type in the file and
 what to name it and how to call
 procmail?
 
 I would me most ever so grateful.
 
 Thank you
 
 Ibly
 

That would be a job for procmail mate - you'd write a rule/recipe to
bounce it either to /dev/null or somewhere else (like to someone's email
address that you really don't like)

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Re: [newbie] 9.1 CD format

2003-03-24 Per discussione Adolfo Bello
On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 15:53, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:

 Yeah, well keventd is one or other KDE prog starting up AFAIK. So there is 
 something starting up and not working as it should, probably konq I'd guess.
 
 Usually, if I get suspicious of KDE in general I start up an Icewm-session 
 (because of the cpu activity gauge bottom left) just to be sure.
 
 Simple enough, if the cpu load is significantly lower (in Icewm) KDE is the 
 chief culprit. Frankly, it usually is due to it's very nature trying 
 to 'feel' like windows/xp.
 
 Actually, your 'empty' /boot directory after the power failure is IMO much 
 more discerning.
 I've had quite a few self brought on catastrofes untill now, but never 
 something like that. Tell us more!
 The more gory details, the better!;o)
 
 Good hunting,
 HarM

I am just googling around and finding information about keventd.

Until now I have found this piece of information:

fromgoogle http://www.scs.ch/~frey/linux/kernelthreads.html
depending on the context of the creator of the threads the new threads
may inherit properties from the parent you do not want to have. The new
version avoids this by having keventd create the threads. The 2.2.
kernel do not have a keventd, so this approach is not implementable
there
/fromggogle

That's the reason why I don't have problem with 2.4.19 and have always
had with the 2.4.2 series.

Now I have to find out what might be causing keventd to overload my
processor the way is doing it.

With regard to damaging the /boot partition I didn't gather any
additional information. I just reinstalled 9.0.

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Re: [newbie] shutdown is not swath off! - bad spellling?

2003-03-24 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 05:42, Miark wrote:
 On a server, I simply eliminated APM and fixed my reboot/halt problems.
 On the appropriate append line in /etc/lilo.conf, add apm=off. Mine looks
 like this:
 
 append=apm=off
 
 Miark
 
Or when you want things done right:

append=tomato=on mayo=on lettuce=on onions=on bacon=on cheese=on
meat=medium

Today is National SmartArse Day in Aus Tray Ya.

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Re: [newbie] 9.1 CD format

2003-03-24 Per discussione H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 24 March 2003 21:08, Adolfo Bello wrote:
 Now I have to find out what might be causing keventd to overload my
 processor the way is doing it.

 With regard to damaging the /boot partition I didn't gather any
 additional information. I just reinstalled 9.0.

I noticed with 9.1rc1 that KDE insistantly used about 80% cpu whilst only the 
Windowmanager (i.e. no extra prog's) was running. In Icewm no such problem.
On my desktop (P4) this was no real problem but my laptop wasn't useable to my 
liking.

I haven't tried 9.1rc2 (and will not awaiting 9.1 final) so I don't know if 
the problem persists.

In regard to the empty /boot directory: Did you try to do a lilo boot-loader 
installation/upgrade which failed?

Frankly, my desktop runs 9.1rc1 fine and my laptop (which is the real workdog) 
keeps 9.0 for the time being (and my fileserver is still on 8.2, actually it 
only gets the x.2 versions:o)). 

Good luck,
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Re: [newbie] shutdown is not swath off! - bad spellling?

2003-03-24 Per discussione H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 24 March 2003 20:52, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 05:42, Miark wrote:
  On a server, I simply eliminated APM and fixed my reboot/halt problems.
  On the appropriate append line in /etc/lilo.conf, add apm=off. Mine looks
  like this:
 
  append=apm=off
 
  Miark

 Or when you want things done right:

 append=tomato=on mayo=on lettuce=on onions=on bacon=on cheese=on
 meat=medium

 Today is National SmartArse Day in Aus Tray Ya.

Nah! for real work horses you need meat=welldone. Nothing like scraping away 
black crusts to get you back down to to earth.

meat=medium is for white-collars who like to pretend they like it raw;o)

Good (smartarse)hunting,
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Re: [newbie] 9.1 CD format

2003-03-24 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 07:35, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:

 I noticed with 9.1rc1 that KDE insistantly used about 80% cpu whilst only the 
 Windowmanager (i.e. no extra prog's) was running. In Icewm no such problem.
 On my desktop (P4) this was no real problem but my laptop wasn't useable to my 
 liking.
 
...have you tried this from a system runlevel of 3 instead of 5? You
might find that the overall overhead is decreased significantly by
booting into runlevel 3 and manually starting your Xwindows sessions -
and the WM doesn't eat up all that resouce/cpu time...

 I haven't tried 9.1rc2 (and will not awaiting 9.1 final) so I don't know if 
 the problem persists.
 
Yeppers!


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[newbie] Final or rc3?

2003-03-24 Per discussione Todd Slater
I see a 9.1-rc3 appearing on some of the mirrors. Is this the final or
is there to be another round of testing?

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Re: [newbie] 9.1 CD format

2003-03-24 Per discussione H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 24 March 2003 21:41, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 07:35, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
  I noticed with 9.1rc1 that KDE insistantly used about 80% cpu whilst only
  the Windowmanager (i.e. no extra prog's) was running. In Icewm no such
  problem. On my desktop (P4) this was no real problem but my laptop wasn't
  useable to my liking.

 ...have you tried this from a system runlevel of 3 instead of 5? You
 might find that the overall overhead is decreased significantly by
 booting into runlevel 3 and manually starting your Xwindows sessions -
 and the WM doesn't eat up all that resouce/cpu time...

I have/do on the laptop (never into 5)  but it still isn't good enough to keep 
it for work i.e. trustworthyness.
The P4 desktop is for everyone here, so that's KDE (and 9.1) to keep 'm all 
happy .especially teen-age daughters who are trying to co-erce MSN.

Never knew about Xtart though, thanks for the tip and thanks to civileme for 
making it.

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Re: [newbie] 9.1 CD format

2003-03-24 Per discussione Adolfo Bello
On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 16:41, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 07:35, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
 
  I noticed with 9.1rc1 that KDE insistantly used about 80% cpu whilst only the 
  Windowmanager (i.e. no extra prog's) was running. In Icewm no such problem.
  On my desktop (P4) this was no real problem but my laptop wasn't useable to my 
  liking.
  
 ...have you tried this from a system runlevel of 3 instead of 5? You
 might find that the overall overhead is decreased significantly by
 booting into runlevel 3 and manually starting your Xwindows sessions -
 and the WM doesn't eat up all that resouce/cpu time...
 
  I haven't tried 9.1rc2 (and will not awaiting 9.1 final) so I don't know if 
  the problem persists.
  
 Yeppers!

I also booted Gnome and processor load was the same. I didn't try Icewm.

I thought of booting in runlevel 3 but then I recalled that I didn't
know how to look at processor load per process from the cli.

Is there any command to do this?

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Re: [newbie] Final or rc3?

2003-03-24 Per discussione Jason Greenwood
Mandrake hasn't said yet. On Cooker, a few days ago they said 9.1 was 
final. For 9.0 they tricked people. They uploaded an RC then renamed it 
final. This may be what is happening here. The curious thing is that the 
CD's are all over 650MB which on list I thought Mandrake said it would 
not do.

Cheers

Jason

Todd Slater wrote:
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is there to be another round of testing?
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Re: [newbie] CDROM takes minutes to mount

2003-03-24 Per discussione Hendrik Boom
Still no joy.

On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 02:31:40PM -0500, Miark wrote:
 Is autofs running? If so, try turning it off with drakxservices.
 
 Miark
 

Is drakxservices the thing you get to turn services on and off from the MCC?
If so, autofs wsa not even listed as something to turn on or off.

It really seems as though the system is locking up for times varying from thirty 
seconds to over a minute now and then.  Mounting a CD does eventually work (today I 
mounted an old OS/2 shareware CD flawlessly, except that it took four minutes).  Now 
and then id does a read from the CD (as evidenced by the drive light), with *huge* 
time delays.  I'm used to it doing a few reads in less than a second on the old SuSE 
system wtill running on the same hardware (dual boot, SuSE and Mandrake) and returning 
immediately afteward with a successful mount.

So I wonder what could cause the delays.  I sat and watched in boot Mandrake 9.0 
today.  The first noticeable delay was a minute and a half or so starting devFS demon. 
 Id announces that it is starting the devFS demon, and about 90 seconds later (times 
without a clock) it announces success.

The only other delays during boot are understandable timeouts:waiting for adsl to come 
up (the modem was off) and waiting to synchronize the clock (again, no net).

Is ninety-seconds a normal time to take to start up devFS?

Could startup delay with devFS be related to the slow CD mount problem?

Is it possible to reconfigure to skip devFS somehow (I suspect not, but I'll ask 
anyway.)  What does devFS do, anyway?

-- hendrik

 
 
 On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:11:45 -0500
 Hendrik Boom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 05:45:19PM -0500, Miark wrote:
   It's simpler to type the following on the commandline as root:
   
 supermount disable
  
  
  Well, I did this.
   
   and to make it permanent:
   
 supermount -i disable
  
  And then I did this to make it permanent.
  
  Now it takes five and a half minutes to mount the second Mandrake 9.0 installation 
  disk.  The problem is still not fixed.
  
  Once mounted, however, 
  
  ls /mnt/cdrom
  
  is nearly instantaeous, but
  
  ls /mnt/cdrom/Boot
  
  took 34 seconds.  I unmounted,
  
  umount /mnt/cdrom
  
  and the umount finished in only 14 seconds.
  
  Presumably tht ls /mnt/cdrom could be satisfied from some cache or other,
  and didn't actually have to consult the CD.
  
  In case it is relevant (supermount seems to work by changing /etc/fstab),
  here's the contents of /etc/fstab:
  
  - cut here
  /dev/hdb8 / ext2 defaults 1 1
  /dev/hda8 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2
  none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
  /dev/hdd/mnt/cdrom  iso9660 
  codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-15,noauto,nosuid,ro,user,nodev,exec  0 0
  /dev/fd0/mnt/floppy vfat 
  codepage=850,sync,unhide,noauto,iocharset=iso8859-15,nosuid,user,exec,nodev
  0 0
  /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850 0 0
  none /proc proc defaults 0 0
  /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0
  
  /dev/hda5   /suse ext2defaults1   1
  /dev/hdb11  /home2  ext2 defaults1   2
  - cot here
  
  No mention of supermount anywhere.
  
  -- hendrik
  
   
   Miark
   
   
   
   On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:41:45 -0500
   Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

I solved this problem by disabling supermount on my removable drives.You can 
do this in the Mandrake Control Center - Mount Points. -CD Rom or Floppy - 
Options - supermount.
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Re: [newbie] 9.1 CD format

2003-03-24 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 07:59, Adolfo Bello wrote:

 I also booted Gnome and processor load was the same. I didn't try Icewm.
 
 I thought of booting in runlevel 3 but then I recalled that I didn't
 know how to look at processor load per process from the cli.
 
 Is there any command to do this?
 
 Saludos

Buenos Dias! You can run top at the console to view it all!

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Re: [newbie] Final or rc3?

2003-03-24 Per discussione Benjamin Pflugmann
On Tue 2003-03-25 at 09:00:54 +1200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mandrake hasn't said yet. On Cooker, a few days ago they said 9.1 was 
 final. For 9.0 they tricked people. They uploaded an RC then renamed it 
 final. This may be what is happening here. The curious thing is that the 
 CD's are all over 650MB which on list I thought Mandrake said it would 
 not do.

They are not:

-rw-r--r--   682164224 2003/03/24 14:17:37 MandrakeLinux-9.1-rc3-CD1.i586.iso
-rw-r--r--   681279488 2003/03/24 14:19:50 MandrakeLinux-9.1-rc3-CD2.i586.iso
-rw-r--r--   681574400 2003/03/24 14:22:07 MandrakeLinux-9.1-rc3-CD3.i586.iso

682164224 = 650.6MB
681279488 = 649.8MB
681574400 = 650.0MB

They all fit well on my 74min CD-RW without overburning.

Bye,

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Re: [newbie] Final or rc3?

2003-03-24 Per discussione Jason Greenwood
Yup, sorry, just realized I should not be doing math in the morning ;)

Cheers

Jason

Benjamin Pflugmann wrote:
On Tue 2003-03-25 at 09:00:54 +1200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Mandrake hasn't said yet. On Cooker, a few days ago they said 9.1 was 
final. For 9.0 they tricked people. They uploaded an RC then renamed it 
final. This may be what is happening here. The curious thing is that the 
CD's are all over 650MB which on list I thought Mandrake said it would 
not do.


They are not:

-rw-r--r--   682164224 2003/03/24 14:17:37 MandrakeLinux-9.1-rc3-CD1.i586.iso
-rw-r--r--   681279488 2003/03/24 14:19:50 MandrakeLinux-9.1-rc3-CD2.i586.iso
-rw-r--r--   681574400 2003/03/24 14:22:07 MandrakeLinux-9.1-rc3-CD3.i586.iso
682164224 = 650.6MB
681279488 = 649.8MB
681574400 = 650.0MB
They all fit well on my 74min CD-RW without overburning.

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Re: [newbie] Final or rc3?

2003-03-24 Per discussione Simon Prosser
Your math is wrong - 650M = 1024*1024*650 = 681574400bytes.
680M would be 1024*1024*680 = 713031680bytes

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Re: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast

2003-03-24 Per discussione John McQuillen
On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 04:11, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Thursday 20 Mar 2003 4:55 pm, Miark wrote:
  Anne,
 
  What problems? I scsi-emu my DVD drive and I've never had a hiccup
  reading data CDs, music CDs, or with copying.
 
  Miark
 
 I seem to remember that if you did the install from that drive, there would be 
 problems in that the software installer would not be looking at the right 
 place to find the disks.  I'd have to check back to see exactly what was said 
 about this, but I think it was so.
 
 It's worth remembering that just about anything he wants to do can be done on 
 that disk without scsi-emulation, so why risk problems?

H, not sure about the software installer issue exactly, although
I've never had a problem. However, I always make the following changes
after I scsi emulate my DVD-ROM drive:

(as root)

vi /etc/devfs/conf.d/dvd.conf

(then in vi):%s/ide/scsi/g
:wq

vi /etc/devfs/conf.d/rdvd.conf

:%s/ide/scsi/g
:wq

service devfsd restart


%s/ide/scsi/g substitutes all instances of ide in the file with scsi and
ensures that /dev/dvd correctly points to your DVD drive.

Btw, I initially began making this change for the benefit of Xine, not
XCDroast or the software installer...

I hope this helps,

Regards,

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Re: [newbie] 9.1 CD format

2003-03-24 Per discussione Adolfo Bello
On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 17:38, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 07:59, Adolfo Bello wrote:
 
  I also booted Gnome and processor load was the same. I didn't try Icewm.
  
  I thought of booting in runlevel 3 but then I recalled that I didn't
  know how to look at processor load per process from the cli.
  
  Is there any command to do this?
  
  Saludos
 
 Buenos Dias! You can run top at the console to view it all!

Buenos Dias, friend.

Gracias again. (spanglish at its best)
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[newbie] startx/Xtart?

2003-03-24 Per discussione Angus Auld
Greetings,
I have a question regarding something quite mysterious, and I wonder
if anyone out there can help me to understand what is going on here.
I have been using Mdk Linux for several months now, and I have always
had it configured to boot into X at start...a runlevel 5. Well, just
today I thought I would change that and set it to start a runlevel 3.
I am not quite so afraid of the cl now as I once was. :-)

Anyway, what I have noted is that if I start x with the command
Xtart, and then choose my default KDE, when KDE starts I
get a black screen with the KDE3 graphic centered and then my
familiar KDE desktop. What is different though is my fonts. They are
very nice and crisp, and the same typeface as previous...except
smaller.

If I start x with the command startx, when KDE starts I
get the familiar blue default background with the KDE3 graphic
centered, and once more my familiar KDE desktop. This time however my
fonts are larger. What is causing this?
I actually increased the size of the fonts after the first start
using Xtart.

Is this being caused by differing screen refresh rates, or what?
Where can I look to find my current refresh rate?
(etc/X11/XF86Config-4 I can't fathom)

I would truly appreciate any insight into this differing behaviour
from Xtart to startx.
TIA. Best regards.
   

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Re: [newbie] 9.1 CD format

2003-03-24 Per discussione Adolfo Bello
On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 16:41, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 07:35, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
 
  I noticed with 9.1rc1 that KDE insistantly used about 80% cpu whilst only the 
  Windowmanager (i.e. no extra prog's) was running. In Icewm no such problem.
  On my desktop (P4) this was no real problem but my laptop wasn't useable to my 
  liking.
  
 ...have you tried this from a system runlevel of 3 instead of 5? You
 might find that the overall overhead is decreased significantly by
 booting into runlevel 3 and manually starting your Xwindows sessions -
 and the WM doesn't eat up all that resouce/cpu time...
 
  I haven't tried 9.1rc2 (and will not awaiting 9.1 final) so I don't know if 
  the problem persists.
  
 Yeppers!

I just finished installing kernel-2.4.21.0.13mdk using urpmi.

First time that I booted it, X didn't start. I decided to take a look at
processes using top. Again, 100% processor load, with keventd hogging
99% of it.

Keeping my search with google, I found some guys reporting the same
problem, related to kapm-idled, which is supposed to save battery. I
also read that turning apm=off might help solving this problem, so I
added apm=off to append in lilo.conf. Now, when I select that kernel at
the lilo menu the machine turns off almost instantaneously. Isn't that
amazing?

Next step is recompiling this new kernel turning APM off.

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[newbie] USB memory stick

2003-03-24 Per discussione Paul Kaplan
I have access to a Fujifilm 256Mb USB memory stick.  Anyone know what device 
type should be used to call this in /etc/fstab?  Since it is readable by 
default from win98, I assume it is formated as vfat.  Can anyone confirm.

So:

mount -t vfat /dev/??? /mnt/removable   Y/N?
TIA
Paul

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Re: [newbie] /home ownership changes itself

2003-03-24 Per discussione David E. Fox
 change directory ownership and only then log in as user.
 What is the problem and how to cure it?

Have a look at /etc/passwd on both distributions and synchronize
them - at least for the users. It would seem to me that one
distribution uses different user numbers for the users; for instance,
mandrake starts at 500, the other distro might start at 100.

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Re: [newbie] Trouble with USB mouse on Toshiba Laptop

2003-03-24 Per discussione Jason
Don't give up!! You can get it to work I am reasonable certain of that. 
Though, Toshiba hardware is notorious for not playing nicely with Linux 
(they have staff that they employ jointly with MS=).

I have gotten mine to work on my work box (an ASUS) by tweaking the 
XF86Config/-4 files by hand. They are on my work box or I would email 
them to you now. Basically you need to use the send core events 
argument for your usb mouse so it pipes the output through the normal mouse.

I can get you my files as a sample tomorrow unless someone else has some 
handy or knows the changes that need to be made to those files. BTW, 
they are found in /etc/X11/

Cheers

Jason Greenwood

Mungandi, Fred wrote:
Hi,

I am a newbie to Linux. Over the weekend, I installed Mandrake 9.0 on a 
Toshiba Satellite 1905-S301 laptop. The little devil is powered by a P4 
running at 2 GHz, has 40 GB HDD and 256 MB RAM. I installed it in a dual 
boot arrangement with Windows XP.

The laptop has a touch pad mouse, which I do not use. Instead I use a 
Genius PowerScroll USB mouse connected through one of the two USB ports. 
It has no PS2 port at all. I also hooked up a USB keyboard in the 
remaining USB port.

The problem is that the USB mouse does not work well. When X starts, the 
mouse only moves in the vertical direction with no horizontal movement 
at all. When I remove the mouse during startup and plug it in later when 
X has started, all goes well. It seems that hell breaks loose during 
startup, probably during auto probe. Could this be a problem with 
modprobe? Do I need a USB mouse driver of some sort? Please help I am 
very desperate. I am on the verge of giving up.

Fred Mungandi

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Fax: +260-1-254532
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RE: [newbie] Trouble with USB mouse on Toshiba Laptop

2003-03-24 Per discussione Mungandi, Fred
Title: RE: [newbie] Trouble with USB mouse on Toshiba Laptop





Jason, 


Thanks for the tips. I will try tweaking the XF86Config-4 file. Please send me you config file. 


Thanks, 


Fred Mungandi


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Trouble with USB mouse on Toshiba Laptop



Don't give up!! You can get it to work I am reasonable certain of that. 
Though, Toshiba hardware is notorious for not playing nicely with Linux 
(they have staff that they employ jointly with MS=).


I have gotten mine to work on my work box (an ASUS) by tweaking the 
XF86Config/-4 files by hand. They are on my work box or I would email 
them to you now. Basically you need to use the send core events 
argument for your usb mouse so it pipes the output through the normal mouse.


I can get you my files as a sample tomorrow unless someone else has some 
handy or knows the changes that need to be made to those files. BTW, 
they are found in /etc/X11/


Cheers


Jason Greenwood


Mungandi, Fred wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am a newbie to Linux. Over the weekend, I installed Mandrake 9.0 on a 
 Toshiba Satellite 1905-S301 laptop. The little devil is powered by a P4 
 running at 2 GHz, has 40 GB HDD and 256 MB RAM. I installed it in a dual 
 boot arrangement with Windows XP.
 
 The laptop has a touch pad mouse, which I do not use. Instead I use a 
 Genius PowerScroll USB mouse connected through one of the two USB ports. 
 It has no PS2 port at all. I also hooked up a USB keyboard in the 
 remaining USB port.
 
 The problem is that the USB mouse does not work well. When X starts, the 
 mouse only moves in the vertical direction with no horizontal movement 
 at all. When I remove the mouse during startup and plug it in later when 
 X has started, all goes well. It seems that hell breaks loose during 
 startup, probably during auto probe. Could this be a problem with 
 modprobe? Do I need a USB mouse driver of some sort? Please help I am 
 very desperate. I am on the verge of giving up.
 
 Fred Mungandi
 
 Lusaka, Zambia
 Tel: +260-1-254303
 Fax: +260-1-254532
 Cell: +260-97-841560
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 






Re: [newbie] USB memory stick

2003-03-24 Per discussione Rob Blomquist
On Monday 24 March 2003 02:02 pm, Paul Kaplan wrote:
 I have access to a Fujifilm 256Mb USB memory stick.  Anyone know
 what device type should be used to call this in /etc/fstab?  Since
 it is readable by default from win98, I assume it is formated as
 vfat.  Can anyone confirm.

Don't sweat about that if you have hotplug running. When you plug it 
in, it should recognize it, and mount it for you.

My camera, a Fuji FinePix 2650 with xD memory is recognized as MSDOS. 
Now, if you really want to hand mount it, then try using auto.

Now for both these operations, you will learn alot by running (as 
root), tail -f /var/log/messages when you stick the memory stick in. 
That is, if USB is configured for your memory stick. If not, check 
www.linux-usb.org for more answers.

Rob

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Re: [newbie] lilo troubles (RH-related)

2003-03-24 Per discussione Raffaele Belardi
That's what I thought, and I did exactly as you write. But, running lilo 
to update the bootloader, we got the error message partition not found 
or something alike, and the bootloader was not changed.

Thanks for the link, I was quite surprised seeing that ntfs is not 
included in RH. I guess MDK sets expectations too high.

Anyway, the problem is partly solved: reinstalling RH, we noticed that 
there was an error in the way we configured the bootloader, and that's 
why the windows entry did not show up in the lilo menu.

thanks again,

raffaele

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Irregardless of whether the kernel has NTFS built into it, you should
still be able to get lilo to recognise the partition and boot to it.
Your lilo should have an entry like:
other=/dev/hda5
label=windows
table=/dev/hda
You HAVE to rerun lilo after modifying the /etc/lilo.conf - but this
should work.
If you want to mount the partition, you can find the NTFS modules at:
http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/
They require no recompiling of the kernel - just run the RPM package
suitable for your kernel and you're all set. Just remember that writing
to NTFS partitions is NOT a good idea under anything than Windows...
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Re: [newbie] lilo troubles (RH-related)

2003-03-24 Per discussione Raffaele Belardi
Leonardo,

we installed lilo on the first sector of the /boot partition, as 
reccomended by the RH help for NT-linux coexistence on the same disk (in 
case of W95/98-linux coexistance it reccomended to put lilo in MBR 
instead), but I admit I did not understand why.

What's this difference between W2K and W98m in terms of bootloader?

raffaele

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Raffaele,
did you install lilo on your root / partition or on
your master partition?


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