Re: [newbie] KMail doesn't take the mailto addy
On Saturday 10 August 2002 04:59 am, you wrote: On Saturday 10 Aug 2002 12:41 am, D. Olson wrote: If I click a link in Galeon, KMail starts up a new message, but it doesn't take the email address from the mailto: part of the link. Anyone know off hand how to do this? In the appropriate box (do Settings | Preferences, then Handlers, then Programs), type kmail %t in the Mail Handler box. BTW putting Please see the Galeon Manual for a full listing of available expansion characters right up front in the interface is _really_ lazy design; the expansion characters, as well as %t, are: %t To %c Cc %b Bcc %k Reference %w News Host %n News Group %p Priority %a Attachment %e Reference %h Html %y Body %s Subject %r Reply %o Follow up %u Whole URL Alastair That is so beatiful... I tried putting kmail %1 (my bash/gawk programming experience made me think that would work) but that didn't do squat. Thanks for that list, I am putting it into my Linux journal. ciao! -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] KMail doesn't take the mailto addy
If I click a link in Galeon, KMail starts up a new message, but it doesn't take the email address from the mailto: part of the link. Anyone know off hand how to do this? -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re:[newbie] Make ISO WAS: Command line burning
Yeah, I know that there are some howtos already, but my main goal is to make my own collection of tutorials on my site for newbies to be able to follow simply. No extra stuff, just the info they need. That's my goal. I think that the dd command line is what I was after. Thanks a lot! On Wednesday 24 July 2002 05:51 pm, you wrote: On Wednesday July 24 2002 03:16 pm, D. Olson wrote: I have been working a bit on a tutorial for this, but I would like to add how to make an ISO of a CD, and then burn it. Do you know how, via the commandline, to take everything on a CD and make it into an ISO? Preferably including the volume label and all that jazz. Thanks! Here's my latest ( disertation ;) on CL burning http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg99825.html Search the rest of the archive (expert too) and you'll find that others have added many good and useful ideas. The example I posted about on the cooker page (link below) gives an example of exactly how to make a bootable .iso, create a bootable CD If you just want to take everything on a CD and copy it to an .iso on your HDD, simply 'dd if=/dev/cdrom/ of=/where/you/want-it/filename.iso' If it's a bootable CD, the copy (.iso) on the HDD will be also since it already includes a bootable .img file. A CD-writing HowTo already exists, and has examples. Best way to find out what works... is trial'n error. Just use the '-dummy' option when testing CD writes. Soon you won't need it after you get the hang of it. Then you'll wonder why anybody would want the confusion of GUI's for CD burning. MOF, I believe it's needed to learn CL burning, just to figure out most CD burning software GUI's ;) -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NVidia 4 video card and XF86
On Saturday 13 July 2002 01:34 am, you wrote: Has anyone had any probs trying to get an Nvidia card working under Drake 8.2? There is a tutorial on http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ that walks you through installing the drivers for 3D. Worked every time for me. -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Web Page
I use Quanta, and I use straight HTML, CSS, and PHP for my pages. On Wednesday 10 July 2002 02:59 pm, you wrote: Can someone give me some info? Wondering what other webpage creating software there is for linux other than cgi? Thanks much -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Quake III with nvidia
On Monday 08 July 2002 04:19 am, you wrote: I've got the Loki version of Quake 3 and it installs well, but doesn't want to start. I guess the problem is my nvidia geforce2. I have 3d (armagetron etc. works) but quake 3 just doesn't want to start. How can I start it? How did you install it? If you are using the Windows CD and the Loki installer, it just installs the binaries, and you have to copy the pak files yourself. Run it from a terminal and tell us any errors it tells you. -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows Games
On Saturday 06 July 2002 12:20 am, you wrote: As WineX develops, Transgaming will be able to make more deals and partnerships with other games companies to make their games compatible with WineX. That's EXACTLY what I DON'T want. We want NATIVE games. -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows Games
On Saturday 06 July 2002 12:48 am, you wrote: I know I'm going back on what I said earlier, but I can't help it... :-( D.Olson, can you tell me what you hardware setup is please? I'm just curious because I do not get the same performance from WineX that you do... Sure: AMD 1.2GHz Tbird 266 bus EPoX 8KTA3L+ 512MB PC133 SDRAM ASUS V7700 DDR Deluxe (GeForce2 GTS) w/ 32MB Creative Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 Maxtor 30GB 7200RPM UDMA100 HDD 1. Framerates here are as fast as, or faster than the same game running under the Windoze environment. 2. Not all games install correctly, or work correctly. I agree. 3. None of the games I'm using lockup, or lock my system up. Thats playing them for hours, even across my LAN and over the 'Net... Lyvim and I both did have one game (Lord of Destruction) do an occasional lockup. Changing a setting in the game options resolved this. Oh, I didn't say that the games that WORK lock the system up. But TESTING games locks up systems like mad. Don't believe me? Have a look at my listing that I posted a link to earlier. Try the games that I noted locked up the system, and you tell me if your system continues running perfectly fine or not. Ask Lyvim about Baldurs Gate. I think he plays it regularly under Winex. Sorry, I've not had a chance to try to install it yet. Don't be sorry. I wouldn't want to play it in WineX anyhow. -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows Games
What is *it* ? Which games? What framerates? Come on, out with it! ;) On Saturday 06 July 2002 10:43 am, you wrote: On Saturday 06 July 2002 02:36 am, you wrote: AMD 1.2GHz Tbird 266 bus EPoX 8KTA3L+ 512MB PC133 SDRAM ASUS V7700 DDR Deluxe (GeForce2 GTS) w/ 32MB Creative Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 Maxtor 30GB 7200RPM UDMA100 HDD Thats so odd. Your system is more powerful than mine! I've got: AMD Athlon 900mhz CPU Shuttle MB 384 megs Ram SB Xgamer Live IBM 60 gig Deskstar HD Geforce 2 Titanium (64megs) (but Winex played fine with the 32 meg card I had before) It doesn't make sense to me that it plays so well here, on an inferior system, and plays so poorly there... :-( -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows Games
Okay, here's a summary of my past postings here, since you are too damn lazy (or stupid, take your pick) to actually read past posts: Firstly, I tried the whole WineX thing. And let me tell you, it sucks. I was using the CVS (read: FREE) version, of which you can find a tutorial on my site: http://mdkxp.by-a.com/htm/tutorials/winex.php But since CVS was supposed to suck in comparison to the RPMs that they release, I got subscribed for 3 months. During that time, they released ONE RPM. ONE. As soon as I got it, I installed it. WineX 2.0. I have tested over 70 games myself on WineX 2.0, and less than 10% of them worked, IIRC. Here is a partial list of the games I tested: http://mdkxp.by-a.com/winex/WineXGames.html I have over 100 games, I just got sick of testing them. I should still have a list of most of them on this site: http://games.dolson.cjb.net/ Can you also see why I would buy WineX in hopes that many of my games would work? And could you not see how I would be disappointed when I find that 90% or more of my games don't work, and many of them froze my computer with WineX? I bought Baldur's Gate 2 because it had a high rating. And it works, SOMETIMES. Other times, it doesn't, and that is of course, if you can actually get it to install. I think that they should work on EXISTING games, the ones that people still like and aren't ported/never will be ported, before they work on the new ones. Yes, they are working on CURRENT games. Which means that MORE AND MORE companies will rely on TRANSGAMING to get their games working and they will IGNORE native ports. Emulated can NEVER compare to NATIVE Linux games. EVER. On Saturday 06 July 2002 04:08 am, and idiot wrote: On Fri, 2002-07-05 at 17:55, D. Olson wrote: I'm a little confused also, since anyone alive and not living under a rock has heard about Loki's demise. Transgaming is the bridge from the gaming world to the world of linux, and it's working. Nuff said. It's working? 30% of the Windows framerate is not what I call working. 5 out of 70 games is not what I call working. Locking up systems is not what I call working. Where are you getting your numbers, Olsen? Where are you seeing 30% of the Winblows framerate? Where are you seeing 5 out of 70 when you haven't even run WineX for your own self? Where are you seeing Locking up systems? If you come on here blowing off at the mouth about something, you darn sure better have your ducks in a row, cause here we cite our sources. That way we cut the troll crap off at the nut level. So cite your sources and quit wasting everybody's time with possibly malinformed rhetoric; especially for the benefit of those of us who actually run and have VALID Winex experience; while not locking up. Such as myself, Darklord, and others. All WineX is doing is showing developers that their work in porting software natively isn't worth a damn because Wine can handle it. You don't see it now, but Wine and WineX will be the downfall of the Linux gaming market. And when that happens, I'll have you to thank for it. Now, let me move right on along to the next few points. First of all, I'm glad you've got this brilliant idea about writing games for Linux. I suggest you put your money where your mouth is and come off the hip with a few million dollars and start your own company that rewrites winblows games for linux. That way you can promote Linux in your own way, and you won't be bugging the crap and high horseing others who are promoting it in their own way. If you need a name for your company, I've even got a suggestion for that; how does Loki sound? What a brilliant concept. You can take the onus of the programming work off of the winblows game programmers, saving them time and money, and hire your own team of programmers; hopefully you'll be able to pay them, eh? Yeah, what an idea. Something just occurred to me tho...there's only one problem with this brilliant idea, thoit's ALREADY BEEN DONE. Dern...I forgot about that ALREADY BEEN DONE part. RL's a bitch, aint it? Maybe we could start out being a little better informed next time, eh? You know, before we find out that we are actually milking a bull. But let's see...what else could you do? Oh hey, I know!! You could go talk to Bethesda Softworks or John Carmack (ever heard of them?) and get them to write for two OS's!! John Carmack would probably be OK with it (since he's already doing it for zero profit out of pure goodwill), but Bethsoft would have to either hire new game programmers or put their existing ones on double duty plus a new learning curve. Come to think of it, knowing them as I do and what a tight ship they run, Bethsoft might laugh you off the property. But hey, that's a risk you're willing to take, right? Anything to stop those stupid Winex users from playing their games under Linux. And don't forget...you've got ME
Re: [newbie] Windows Games
On Saturday 06 July 2002 05:30 pm, you wrote: My experience is the same, shane. Diablo 2 works just fine, and crashes just don't happen anymore. On the other hand, under Winblows I continually had problems. Plus from what I've seen, Diablo 2 runs faster and smoother under Linux. Is that the only game that you have running fine in WineX? Have you tried any of the other 69 or 70 on my list? -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows Games
Umm... Why the hell are you playing these in Wine(X)? There are native ports for all the Quake games, and they run better than they ever will in Wine(X). umm i the hell did because at one time i didn't know, i the hell don't now. Okay, well, it's a valid question... Most people do know that you can play those games (as well as RTCW, Unreal, UT, and Doom) in Linux natively. I am surprised that a list like this, especially people who use WineX don't know about that already. I mean, even in the Transgaming forums they talk about the native versions of the Quake games. no, go load windows and play them and lay off the list. we aren't going to fix it. no list memebers own game companies. preach to those who can do something about it. Yeah, well, if I am the only person who emails any companies, how will they ever find out about YOU? How will they know that YOU want native games? THEY WON'T. Okay. But I don't see what's hard to understand about it. If a company sees that some people are satisfied with a game running at 34% of the speed under WineX, then they will shrug and not bother porting it. I would. if that were the case it would matter. Well, it will matter in the future, but remember, you are the ones who are making it that way. Companies are even replying to emails saying I recommend you try running the game/application in Wine/WineX which means that obviously they aren't going to bother porting it. Don't ask for references, as I read about this on a forum. I think it was the Mandrake User Board, a long while ago, but I don't recall. If you don't read the posts, then don't start insulting people saying they don't know what they are talking about when they have stated it fully previously. It just makes people look like - (blanked out for you, buddy). actually i did read the posts, i was saying i was questioning following further based on your attitude. i no longer question. if you feel i insulted you, imagine how your assinine remarks sound. I wasn't saying that you didn't. It was Lyvim Xaphir who started saying stupid things like Where are you seeing 5 out of 70 when you haven't even run WineX for your own self? I wasn't directing that at you personally, it was a statement. Period. You obviously didn't notice that blanked out for you, buddy part in my statement, in which I wouldn't have called you buddy if you were the one who said something as dumb as If you come on here blowing off at the mouth about something, you darn sure better have your ducks in a row, cause here we cite our sources. don't bother editing your comments, i can edit them. i have added you to my sort to trash list. That's nice. -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I thought Wal Mart had a deal with L-MDK?
On Friday 05 July 2002 09:06 am, you wrote: The only wish I have for KDE and not so much Linux (well, any WM/DE really, as I'd love *box if it had some sort of icons) is one of those bars like in Mac OS Ten... That'd be SOOO sweet! I LOVE how it zooms Mmmm I haven't seen OSX, but you can get the KDE taskbar icons to zoom. Are you talking about a whole zooming taskbar? My icons don't zom anymore... They do for one second, then the don't zoom. They just highlight. And yeah, the Mac OS Z bar zooms in too... NICE Oh, the eye candy. You should have a peek at it if you can. Oh, and make sure you minimize a window too... M. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I thought Wal Mart had a deal with L-MDK?
I meant OS X... Not OS Z... On Friday 05 July 2002 02:12 pm, you wrote: On Friday 05 July 2002 09:06 am, you wrote: The only wish I have for KDE and not so much Linux (well, any WM/DE really, as I'd love *box if it had some sort of icons) is one of those bars like in Mac OS Ten... That'd be SOOO sweet! I LOVE how it zooms Mmmm I haven't seen OSX, but you can get the KDE taskbar icons to zoom. Are you talking about a whole zooming taskbar? My icons don't zom anymore... They do for one second, then the don't zoom. They just highlight. And yeah, the Mac OS Z bar zooms in too... NICE Oh, the eye candy. You should have a peek at it if you can. Oh, and make sure you minimize a window too... M. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows Games
I'm a little confused also, since anyone alive and not living under a rock has heard about Loki's demise. Transgaming is the bridge from the gaming world to the world of linux, and it's working. Nuff said. It's working? 30% of the Windows framerate is not what I call working. 5 out of 70 games is not what I call working. Locking up systems is not what I call working. All WineX is doing is showing developers that their work in porting software natively isn't worth a damn because Wine can handle it. You don't see it now, but Wine and WineX will be the downfall of the Linux gaming market. And when that happens, I'll have you to thank for it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I thought Wal Mart had a deal with L-MDK?
On Friday 05 July 2002 02:34 pm, you wrote: On Friday 05 July 2002 02:12 pm, you wrote: On Friday 05 July 2002 09:06 am, you wrote: The only wish I have for KDE and not so much Linux (well, any WM/DE really, as I'd love *box if it had some sort of icons) is one of those bars like in Mac OS Ten... That'd be SOOO sweet! I LOVE how it zooms Mmmm I haven't seen OSX, but you can get the KDE taskbar icons to zoom. Are you talking about a whole zooming taskbar? My icons don't zom anymore... They do for one second, then the don't zoom. They just highlight. And yeah, the Mac OS Z bar zooms in too... NICE Oh, the eye candy. You should have a peek at it if you can. Oh, and make sure you minimize a window too... M. Not sure but I think the icons only zoom if the task bar size is set to tiny, small or medium... (and zooming is enabled of course!) HTH I have tried them all, and it works for the first 3 seconds after you apply the changes, then it stops working. Don't know why. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I thought Wal Mart had a deal with L-MDK?
On Friday 05 July 2002 04:35 pm, you wrote: I haven't seen OSX, but you can get the KDE taskbar icons to zoom. Are you talking about a whole zooming taskbar? Imagine the shape of a snake as it swallows a large object whole. In OSX, the taskbar takes on the same shape as you move the pointer over something. That is, not only does the icon you're pointing at get big, but the icon on either side gets slightly bigger. Very cool. Hey Miark, that's a great way to describe it! I never thought of that. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] FTPing mondo files
Why not set up a network share using NFS or even Samba? It is pretty easy to do using Webmin or MCC. On Friday 05 July 2002 09:02 pm, you wrote: I'm trying to ftp an ISO image between two MDK computers on my network, but the connection keeps timing out, so the transfer never works. How can get this ISO onto my other computer? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] FTPing mondo files
Hmm... I don't know. I don't do things the hard way... I'd love to know how, but I am too lazy to learn if Mandrake has tools that make it easy. I am sorry, I can't help you with that, and I don't use Bastille or anything like that. On Friday 05 July 2002 11:48 pm, you wrote: Okay, I decided to try NFS: On the server: 1) /etc/rc.d/init.d/nfs start 2) Put /mnt/win_d 192.168.0.7(rw) in /etc/exports 3) exportfs -ra On the client 4) /etc/rc.d/init.d/netfs start 5) mkdir /mnt/m-win_d; chmod 777 /mnt/m-win_d (as root, of course) 6) mount -t nfs 192.168.0.1:/mnt/win_d /mnt/m-win_d And then it hangs, and I can't kill the process. I tried a rpcinfo -p on the server, and all is well. I then did a rpcinfo -p 192.168.0.1 on the client, and it came up the same, as it should. Both machines are running 8.2. Bastille isn't running. Why is it hanging? Miark D. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith: Why not set up a network share using NFS or even Samba? It is pretty easy to do using Webmin or MCC. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows Games
On Wednesday 03 July 2002 11:40 am, you wrote: So do I, Shane! I bought just about everything they offered... ;-( I saw three Loki games today - EUS (I already have it), Myth II, and some train simulator game. I would have loved to buy both of the latter two, but I decided on just Myth II. Why? Not because I am not supporting the Linux games, but I mean, $45 for a TRAIN SIM? I am sorry, but I just don't like trains. So I got Myth II for $7.99. If that train sim is still there in a month or so, I will offer them $15 for it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows Games
Well strap a collar on and call me Lassie... I actually found a Loki game today... Myth II - $7.99 CAD... I got it. Gonna try it in a few minutes. On Tuesday 02 July 2002 11:59 pm, you wrote: On Tuesday 02 July 2002 05:30 pm, D. Olson did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: Yes, very strange indeed. Funny how I only ever saw ONE Linux game on a store shelf... Hmm... Go figure. i have seen a few, but not much. it boils down to the chicken and the egg. if nobody makes linux games, you buy win games and run them in linux, but then nobody is buying linux games, so why make linux games? personally, i support wine because they are doing something bigger than games, but i only buy games if they are for linux. i miss loki Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I thought Wal Mart had a deal with L-MDK?
On Wednesday 03 July 2002 06:51 pm, you wrote: If that was true, yes, you would be more open to viruses (virii isn't a word), but since Lindows has made it clear that users log in using usernames and passwords, I think that they have fixed this hole. Unless I read their FAQ wrong... Well paint me purple and call me Barney. Looks like they didn't bother changing it, but they did mention it in the FAQ... The lurking terror of Root So far I haven't addressed the questionable design decision to make the user run as root. This opens the door for viruses and insecurities like the ones that have plagued Windows for years. The Unix system of limited privileges has been an effective means of restricting viral code. To throw all that away now seems very foolish. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows Games
On Tuesday 02 July 2002 09:41 am, you wrote: On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 09:11:02 -0400, D. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 02 July 2002 12:46 am, you wrote: But why would anyone buy the GNU/Linux version when you can get the Windows version for the same price (sometimes cheaper) and download the GNU/Linux binaries off the Internet? That way, you can have the game working in both OSs. Well, AFAIK you can do the same with the Linux version of Q3A... Just download the Windows point release... So... Someone would NOT buy the Linux release because they are misinformed... But where can you find the GNU/Linux release? Most people buy their games in stores, but the only store I've seen selling Quake 3 for GNU/Linux is GNU/Linux-only. How often do you go to a GNU/Linux store? Many GNU/Linux users would know that Quake 3 binaries are available on the Internet, so it doesn't matter which version they buy. These people would then go to their local games shop and buy the Windows version. Why go out of the way to some tiny GNU/Linux store when you can just go to a shop just around the corner? It's sad but it happens. I know what you are saying, but that wasn't my point initially... You said That way, you can have the game working in both OSs and my point was that it didn't matter what version you bought, as they BOTH work in BOTH OSes. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows Games
Whatever. Why is it so hard to see that without Linux games, there CAN'T be a Linux gaming market? How can we prove that we will buy games if there ARE NO GAMES to buy? On Tuesday 02 July 2002 12:03 pm, you wrote: On Monday 01 July 2002 05:24 pm, you wrote: everything snipped You can run your mouth about how I should order online like the rest of you, but it just so happens that I don't own a credit card, nor do I want one. And really, do Windows users have to buy their games online? No. I like to walk into a store, pay for my game, and then have the game in MY HANDS. I don't like to order over the internet from people I don't know, with no guarantee that I will actually ever see the product. If thats true, then its obvious there needs to be a much larger game playing user base under Linux to get these companies attention and hold it. Let me tell you something. How the fuck do you expect the Linux gaming community to grow when THERE ARE NO FUCKING GAMES FOR LINUX? I'll be the first to celebrate when that day arrives! :-) I doubt it. I don't know at what point this conversation turned the way it has, but as far as I'm concerned its over. Thank you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows Games
On Tuesday 02 July 2002 04:31 pm, you wrote: there was a couple of companies making them. they went out of buis. go figure. Yes, very strange indeed. Funny how I only ever saw ONE Linux game on a store shelf... Hmm... Go figure. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows Games
Firstly, I tried the whole WineX thing. And let me tell you, it sucks. I was using the CVS (read: FREE) version, of which you can find a tutorial on my site: http://mdkxp.by-a.com/htm/tutorials/winex.php But since CVS was supposed to suck in comparison to the RPMs that they release, I got subscribed for 3 months. During that time, they released ONE RPM. ONE. As soon as I got it, I installed it. WineX 2.0. I have tested over 70 games myself on WineX 2.0, and less than 10% of them worked, IIRC. Here is a partial list of the games I tested: http://mdkxp.by-a.com/winex/WineXGames.html Now, I have a listing along with the installers on this page: http://mdkxp.by-a.com/htm/articles/gamelist.php And I think you missed a critical part of my message: On Sun, 2002-06-16 at 20:12, D. Olson wrote: Oh, only NATIVE games, please. Why? Cuz WineX performance is less than 50% of the Windows/Linux equivalent. Don't argue; it's a fact. I tested it myself, and it was benchmarked on some website as well. I hate WineX, and if we settle for emulated crap, then the developers will just say Oh, I see that our work is not appreciated/needed, since Wine(X) is good enough for them, so I suppose we won't port this game now. Emulated can NEVER compare to NATIVE Linux games. EVER. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] enlarge a linux partition?]
I used DiskDrake to resize / on my wife's PC. How? I booted from the install CD. Worked fine here. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Switching from Voodoo to GeForce2
All you're mail are belong to KMail. On Saturday 29 June 2002 10:53 am, you wrote: D. Olson wrote: Well, the link worked for me Ok, I suspected the email problem might depend on the client you're using -- what client do you use? (I'll have to recheck when I don't have a headache, but, IIRC, the link did not work for me yesterday from my Netscape 3.04 mail client, but then, they almost never do -- I cut and paste them to IE. (Sorry!)) But anyway, that's all beside the point... But I meant the link on the site... Yeah, you're right! Found the problem -- it's due to the square brackets that were around newbie. Fixed that, but now having trouble navigating from the cited post to the one by you == probably will have to re-search the archives and put a new link in. I've probably got several pages with the same problem (square brackets around newbie or expert). Thanks, Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Switching from Voodoo to GeForce2
Wow. I just did this last week on my wife's PC. Perfect timing. Here's how. 1) Shut off PC. 2) Remove Voodoo. 3) Install GeForce. 4) Power up PC. 5) Log in, but don't do startx 6) su to root 7) run XFdrake so that it switches to the GeForce card. 8) Install the NVidia GLX drivers and configure them. 9) Now type exit to go back to your user 10) do startx and you're all set! No reboot needed. If you don't know how to do step 8, have a look at http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ at the tutorial section. You can memorize it or print it for reference. Download the SRC RPMs to your home folder before you do step 1, unless you know how to download from the commandline. This worked perfectly for me. On Friday 28 June 2002 01:03 am, you wrote: On Thu, 2002-06-27 at 21:25, Barry Michels wrote: All this talk about swapping video cards has reminded me to ask, is there anything that should be done before swapping my Voodoo3 3500TV for a GeForce2 400MX? I'm swapping hardware between 2 computers in an attempt to get 1 really nice one for linux and make a winblows machine with the leftovers. Barry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GeForce 4
On Friday 21 June 2002 04:04 pm, you wrote: On Friday 21 June 2002 02:28 pm, darklord wrote: On Friday 21 June 2002 01:46 pm, you wrote: On Friday 21 June 2002 11:22 am, Miark wrote: Are these bad-boys supported in Linux? Miark by nvidia drivers. I installed one while running 8.2 and it didn't have a problem. Then I installed the cooker snapshot and had to go with FBdev during installation, but upon boot, do a XFdrake --expert --noauto and pick gf3, load up the drivers, edit config and start X. No problems. :) -s Hmm, is the 3D gaming stuff working as well? Or is this 2D only? Thanks. Oh man, it's flat out rocking, kick-ass fraggin' 3D! :D -s Yes, but if you are using the DL edition, you should get the NVidia RPMs and install them. Otherwise the 3D won't work. I have a tutorial on my site if you need it. http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Virus in Linus OS ...
On Saturday 15 June 2002 10:26 am, you wrote: Nimda virus affects Linux! My linux boxes have had their bandwidth chewed up by four thousand Nimda servers infected with IIS. OH LOL! I LOVE IT! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] loki went bust???
i have to admit that the real reason i first choose Mandrake over SuSE was SuSE's damn no free ISO for you! policy. considering the amount of money i have sent Mandrake in the last few years, SuSE should hope i am the exception, not the rule... Well, I am an exception too... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Quake 2
Woohoo!!! Lots of purty browns and oranges! Oh, and shadows, lots of those!!! http://www.icculus.org/quake2/installers/icculus_org_quake2.run Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)
On Thursday 13 June 2002 10:37 pm, you wrote: you see, when i said mandrake needs a graphic redesign, i really meant mandrake. not KDE, Gnome, or any other product. just the looks of Mandrakesoft's products. Totally agree. All the icons look too similar... Too much purple CAN be a bad thing. :) Anyhow, who said you need a star in EVERY icon? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux, intuitive?
Whiles we're bitching about copy and paste, let me throw my anger in here too. Stupid Klipper doesn't work as expected all the time. Why is it that sometimes it doesn't pick up what I selected? And why is it that sometimes I select something, and it picks it up, yet in order to paste it, I HAVE to go into the klipper menu and click it to get the checkmark beside it? That's inconsistent to me. And I like CTRL+V as much as the next guy. ONE clipboard would be sufficient, and one thing at a time, I think. But others digress. On Friday 14 June 2002 04:27 pm, you wrote: On Friday 14 June 2002 01:04 pm, Joshua James did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: Why is Ctl-V intuitive? Just because that is how Windows does it does not make it 'intuitive' I have better things to do with my time than figure out why I can't cut and paste. You can try to tell me I'm doing it wrong because I'm ignorant if you'd like. I was however able to cut from Evolution and paste to KEdit using both the CTRL keys and the Edit menu commands. i don't think he is telling you that you are ignorant, but for reference the middle button paste works in most apps and between most apps, the klipper tool on the task bar is good as a history, which once you get used to having you will love. the real point is that for various reasons paste by command (or other wise) is not always the same acrossed the board. that is not the only problem with linux. after many years use i can tell you there are in fact others. :) the good news is that the pluses out weigh the quirks and outright minuses. ...and please try to understand nobody (that i have read) feels you are ignorant or stupid for not knowing something, but do try to recall you aren't in redmond anymore toto. :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux, intuitive?
I only use CTRL+V is middle click doesn't work, which is the problem I described. On Friday 14 June 2002 05:47 pm, you wrote: On Fri 14 Jun 2002 23:03, D. Olson wrote: Whiles we're bitching about copy and paste, let me throw my anger in here too. Stupid Klipper doesn't work as expected all the time. Why is it that sometimes it doesn't pick up what I selected? And why is it that sometimes I select something, and it picks it up, yet in order to paste it, I HAVE to go into the klipper menu and click it to get the checkmark beside it? That's inconsistent to me. And I like CTRL+V as much as the next guy. ONE clipboard would be sufficient, and one thing at a time, I think. Well actually part of the problem is quiet often that there are some non KDE-native apps that run perfectly well (as if they're native) but just don't collaborate as well. The solution (to a narrow mind) would be to make KDE the 'one and only' desktop and force all the others to comply or die! Now that reminds me of some other OS doesn't it? Part of freedom of choice is to be aware what the choice is. Making it all the harder though! Using the 'middle mouse button' as a substitute when CTRL C V doesn't work, just means you're using 'gpm' i.e. not using X. It works though! Hèhèhèh! Long live the commandline :o) Have fun, Harm (and as always don't get in my way:o) ) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Gimp WAS: Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)
On Thursday 13 June 2002 02:20 pm, you wrote: clearly you haven't seen kde-301 yet, have you? and besides...it's not their job to make it look prettier. thats what desktop managers like KDE, Blackbox, and the rest are for, right? -- But the mandrake team, our even us newbies could design our own theme and make it official for all window managers. Than we can use it as the preinstalled theme :-) (we definately need to change the basic mandrake colors and logo!!!) Maybe we should make a redesign contest! I will enter as soon as I can figure gimp out. Photoshop seems much easyer... Poppycock Gimp is not harder to use. So what if you right-click on the image to access the menus instead of the File menu? Whoppee... Oh, you could use that little Arrow button too. :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] building an RPM
Umm... If it acts like it works then it works...
It would have installed checkinstall.
On Wednesday 12 June 2002 12:38 pm, you wrote:
Does anyone know why this doesn't work
It builds chkrootkit-0.35-1.i386.rpm and chkrootkit-0.35-1.src.rpm
But when I run rpm -ivh chkrootkit-0.35-1.i386.rpm. I can't find any thing
that it did, it acts like it works?
#file chkrootkit.spec
Summary: chkrootkit-0.35
Name: chkrootkit
Version: 0.35
Release: 1
Source0: %{name}.tar.gz
License: GPL
Group: Development/Tools
%description
%prep
%setup -q
%build
make sense
%install
if [ -d /home/tools ]; then
if [ -d /home/tools/chkrootkit-0.35 ]; then
cp * /home/tools/chkrootkit-0.35/;
else
mkdir /home/tools/chkrootkit-0.35;
cp * /home/tools/chkrootkit-0.35/;
fi
else
mkdir /home/tools;
mkdir /home/tools/chkrootkit-0.35/;
cp * /home/tools/chkrootkit-0.35/;
fi
%files
%defattr(-,root,root)
/home/tools/chkrootkit-0.35/COPYRIGHT
/home/tools/chkrootkit-0.35/Makefile
/home/tools/chkrootkit-0.35/README
/home/tools/chkrootkit-0.35/README.chklastlog
/home/tools/chkrootkit-0.35/README.chkwtmp
/home/tools/chkrootkit-0.35/check_wtmpx.c
/home/tools/chkrootkit-0.35/chklastlog.c
/home/tools/chkrootkit-0.35/chkproc.c
/home/tools/chkrootkit-0.35/chkrootkit
/home/tools/chkrootkit-0.35/chkrootkit.lsm
/home/tools/chkrootkit-0.35/chkwtmp.c
/home/tools/chkrootkit-0.35/ifpromisc.c
/home/tools/chkrootkit-0.35/strings.c
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Re: [newbie] building an RPM
On Wednesday 12 June 2002 03:51 pm, you wrote: On Wednesday 12 June 2002 03:05 pm, D. Olson wrote: Umm... If it acts like it works then it works... It would have installed checkinstall. Actually this is what it does. [root@gail gerald]# rpm -ivh chkrootkit-0.35-1.i386.rpm Preparing...### [100%] so maybe all it does is prop?? It doesn't go back to the prompt after installing it?? No errors? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Corrupt rpm database?
On Friday 12 June 2009 09:36 pm, you wrote: Whenever I rpm or urpmi something, I get the following message: rpmdb: read: 0x4014b274, 4096: Input/output error rpmdb: Hash bucket 428 maps to non-hash page 518 error: db3 error(-30985) from db-verify: DB_VERIFY_BAD: Database verification failed I assume my database is corrupt, but how do I fix it (I tried rpm --rebuilddb to no avail)? Sir Robin I thought it was rebuilddb or something... You gotta do it as root I think... I don't recall... Sorry. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] loki went bust???
Long time ago. Loki had a good idea, and put out some good products (I have their Railroad Tycoon still) but the market wasn't ready. As a software developer I once contacted (in the hope that he might consider porting to Linux) said, Linux users are generally pretty stingy about software. Getting all that stuff free (as in beer as well) makes you stop and think about paying $50 for a game. The other factor is that most Linux gamers have Windows on their boxes as well, so there is no point in their buying Linux versions (except to avoid the minor irritation of having to reboot). This is more pertinent in a lot of countries where you can buy any Windows game for $3 on the street (I sometimes think penguinistas should support moves to stamp out software piracy, as this would kill the Windows monopoly in most of the world). So for now, RIP Loki. But I'm sure in a few years' time either a similar compnay will start up, or existing games companies will start producing Linux versions themselves. Well There is a growing number of games that do work in Linux already... Doom Quake Quake 2 (apparently) Quake 3 Arena Unreal Tournament Unreal Return to Castle Wolfenstein and soon: NEVERWINTER NIGHTS (I know I know, I missed a few) So... Companies are starting to support us. Now we need to support them. Now, I totally DISAGREE with the whole Linux users are stingy bastards point you and that software developer make. I bought approximately 90 to 100 games during 2001, and if there were Linux games in that great a number, I would be buying them in quantities like that now. However, I got lucky that out of those 90+ games I bought last year that 4 of them now work in Linux... At the time I didn't know any better though... I was still using Windows as my primary OS, but I switched in October (and so did my wife :) ). I should have saved my money... So now I am selling my games. :( (http://games.dolson.cjb.net/) Anyhow, I would GRATEFULLY pay $50 for games that run on Linux. If I could buy a Linux version or a Windows version, which would I buy?? It would be absolutly stupid to purchase Windows games if you are a Linux user. I think that this is a wussy approach and is a programmer's only way out now - before it was that Linux wasn't a major player, now it's that we're all too cheap... I can't believe that you would stand for that kind of trash talk!!!?!?! I wrote BioWare and told them that if they DON'T put the Linux version onto shelves that I won't be buying it. They assured me that it would be... And in the same box as the Windows AND MAC versions! NOW THAT'S HOW IT OUGHT TO BE. I am paying $80 for this game as soon as it comes out. Thanks for recognising us, BioWare!!! I love you! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] loki went bust???
On Tuesday 11 June 2002 06:01 pm, you wrote: Yeah, I hear you! Why do you think it's so easy to make a pirate copy of winblow$ whereas a stupid copy-protected audiocd from Sony knocks everybody over? Good hunting, Harm Well... If no one said this already, then you should know that you can easily defeat that by filling in the band with a pen. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hahaha, did you see?
http://www.roaringpenguin.com/adti2.php3 AdTI uses the story of Netscape killing the open-source Mosaic. Well, Mosaic was never GPL'd. If it had been, Netscape would have been unable to kill it. Umm... So that made it right for AdTI, er, sorry, I mean Microsoft to go and kill (or attempt to) Netscape? Geez, that's really good logic. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Intro and E-Mail client??
On Monday 10 June 2002 04:37 pm, you wrote: On Monday 10 June 2002 11:28 am, Bulloved wrote: snip What Linux email clients do people on the list prefer? I like kmail Same here, but my wife uses Evolution. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Censorship
Yeah. Well some messages just plain didn't show up. I always send using the right account. But thanks. GO RED WINGS! On Tuesday 04 June 2002 07:46 pm, you wrote: D. Olson wrote: Is this board censored? I noticed that some of my posts haven't been showing up... What am I posting that is wrong Thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com No. tis not censored or moderated, but it must come from the email you subscribed from and it may hang in the queue for a while while more recent posts go right on through. I don't think Mandrakesoft has ever kicked anyone off the list; however, I did see some folks frozen out by being universally ignored. They were being personally abusive to others, in each case I observed. Civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Surround Sound
I have an SB Live! 5.1, which appears to use the same drivers, and it does the same thing. I get sound in the rear speakers. Now, I have a question about it... This sound in the rear speakers is only mirrored stereo, right? Or is it true surround sound (4 speaker) that I get? IE: in games and stuff, should I get 4 separate channels of audio? On Sunday 09 June 2002 08:58 pm, you wrote: I have an audigy too, and for me the rear (just a regular pair of powered computer speakers) work fine, I would check the plug. On Sunday 09 June 2002 08:18 pm, you wrote: On Sun, 09 Jun 2002 18:35:06 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to play audio CDs with good sound. I have an Audigy card, and CDPlayer (Mandrake 8.2) plays the CDs, but only on front speakers. No rear speakers, no sub. Is it the app that can't cope, or do I need to do something to configure the sound card? Anne http://opensource.creative.com/ Try there for drivers for the Audigy. The reason you're not getting sound beyond 2 speakers is b/c MDK drivers are compiled coded for normal speaker setups. You obviously have 5.1 or 4.1 surround. Give that site a look Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] test
On Saturday 08 June 2002 10:46 am, you wrote: On Saturday 08 June 2002 12:11 am, D. Olson wrote: On Friday 07 June 2002 11:50 pm, you wrote: On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 23:12:01 -0400 D. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 07 June 2002 07:33 pm, you wrote: On Saturday 08 June 2002 00:24, you wrote: On Friday 07 June 2002 06:53 pm, you wrote: On Saturday 08 June 2002 00:23, Derek Byram wrote: On Friday 07 June 2002 15:03, you wrote: On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Jay wrote: Oh tks! ;-) But as someone has mentioned before... this kind of thread is only possible due to the subscribers maturity level as well as nice sense of humor and fellowship! Ricardo Castanho I can't help but laugh at what this thread has become Some file permisions needed fixing and a setting in postfix On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Jay wrote: I was having problems sending to the list, but I fixed it. fixed what? ;-) On Wednesday 05 June 2002 08:31 pm, you wrote: On Thu, 06 Jun 2002 08:24, D. Olson wrote: On Wednesday 05 June 2002 09:47 am, you wrote: On Wednesday 05 June 2002 06:32 am, Jay wrote: test It works. -- cmg What works? Jays test works. Jay who? What thread??? Don't push it ;o) Don't push what Why can't anyone speak coherently? PS Why can't you leave my sig in the mail ;p What sig??? i told you, everyone. this thread belongs to the expert list now we are all confused.. What expert list? New record for posts per byte. Brevity rules. What record? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] run windows executable in Linux ...
On Saturday 08 June 2002 11:37 am, you wrote: On Friday 07 June 2002 11:16 pm, D. Olson did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: On Saturday 08 June 2002 01:23 am, you wrote: Wow. I really don't think someone asking, on a Linux mailing list, if there's free software to do what they want to do is unreasonable. He didn't ask if someone had a cracked version of these programs. He didn't even say he wasn't willing to pay for something. Just seemed to be asking honest question to me. Way to jump down this persons throat. Good grief I wasn't trying to jump down anyone's throat... I always come across that way, and I don't mean to... I need to learn how to type or communicate or something. well if it helps it didn't sound like an attack to me, but a well explained answer to the question. maybe we lack (have?) the same communication skills... dammit! ;) Thanks. It's really hard to communicate emotions via text, so people assume things that aren't necessarily true. It happens to me all the time... Expecially on forums. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] test
On Saturday 08 June 2002 08:42 pm, you wrote: please, children, enough. once, funny. twice, a grin. 14, ridiculous. tc,hago. g . What once? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] WTF?????
On Friday 07 June 2002 01:41 pm, you wrote: Have you got 2 ISP accounts? Something like this happens if you are connected on one ISP's account and trying to use the smtp of the other one. Nope... I got two incoming POP3 accounts, but I only have one outgoing... Don't ask why, that's my college's dumb policy. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] run windows executable in Linux ...
On Thursday 05 December 2002 03:10 am, you wrote: hello miark thanks alot for your mail .. all these apps which you say are monetary .. Linux is open source and GPL (copy left) why some app in this platform is monetary ? bye You are wrong. All those apps AREN'T monetary. You can install Wine for free, and you can install WineX for free. IF you know how. The others? Well, don't buy them if you don't want to pay for them... Seems like a logical thing to me. You are asking to do things that you would otherwise be REQUIRED to pay for... You want to do what Windows does, but FREE OF CHARGE. Last time I looked, Windows XP Pro cost $449CAD, and that's a big chunk of change for a shit OS that crashes all the time and distributes my data to Microsoft and God knows who else... Hey, you know that BioWare is putting out Neverwinter Nights with the Windows, Mac, and Linux versions in the same box? Should they give it away for free because it runs on Linux? NO. The attitude that EVERYTHING HAS TO BE FREE is going to be the downfall of Linux... If it were possible. Also, take StarOffice, for example. People had the OPTION of paying for it. Did they? No. But would a business touch it? NO. So.. What do they do? They put a mandatory charge on it, and now it is what, the number one seller at Amazon Amazing, isn't it? Just because something costs money, doesn't mean that it isn't worth the money... Think about it... Linux software is usually cheaper than Windows software (Mandrake is $60 here... Compare that to $299 for WinXP Homo Edition...). StarOffice is 20% the price of Microsoft's Office... So there. That's my rambling opinion... Good luck running shitty apps in Linux. When all else fails, maybe you should just use Windows. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] test
On Friday 07 June 2002 06:53 pm, you wrote: On Saturday 08 June 2002 00:23, Derek Byram wrote: On Friday 07 June 2002 15:03, you wrote: On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Jay wrote: Oh tks! ;-) But as someone has mentioned before... this kind of thread is only possible due to the subscribers maturity level as well as nice sense of humor and fellowship! Ricardo Castanho I can't help but laugh at what this thread has become Some file permisions needed fixing and a setting in postfix On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Jay wrote: I was having problems sending to the list, but I fixed it. fixed what? ;-) On Wednesday 05 June 2002 08:31 pm, you wrote: On Thu, 06 Jun 2002 08:24, D. Olson wrote: On Wednesday 05 June 2002 09:47 am, you wrote: On Wednesday 05 June 2002 06:32 am, Jay wrote: test It works. -- cmg What works? Jays test works. Jay who? What thread??? Don't push it ;o) Don't push what Why can't anyone speak coherently? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] run windows executable in Linux ...
On Saturday 08 June 2002 01:23 am, you wrote: Wow. I really don't think someone asking, on a Linux mailing list, if there's free software to do what they want to do is unreasonable. He didn't ask if someone had a cracked version of these programs. He didn't even say he wasn't willing to pay for something. Just seemed to be asking honest question to me. Way to jump down this persons throat. Good grief I wasn't trying to jump down anyone's throat... I always come across that way, and I don't mean to... I need to learn how to type or communicate or something. Sorry. However, he wasn't asking about if there was a free program (which there was and both had been mentioned already), but why a company would charge money for LINUX software... At least that's how I read it... But I guess I am the only one. Sorry. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office 6 Adabas question
As I said, all you need is OpenOffice... Unless Mandrake installed dBase when I wasn't looking. Just press F4... It's been a long time since I used dBase (III, III+, and IV) (on dos and Windows), but, don't you need the dBase engine in addition to whatever data Open/StarOffice puts out, to make use of the data in that format? Do you make use of the data in dBase format? With or without a dBase engine? Maybe MySQL or Postgres can handle dBase format data as an option? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] test
On Wednesday 05 June 2002 08:31 pm, you wrote: On Thu, 06 Jun 2002 08:24, D. Olson wrote: On Wednesday 05 June 2002 09:47 am, you wrote: On Wednesday 05 June 2002 06:32 am, Jay wrote: test It works. -- cmg What works? Jays test works. Jay who? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Yahoo! Chat
Does Gaim not work in Yahoo chats? Gaim is great. I use it for everything (I have an MSN, ICQ, Yahoo, AIM, and three IRC accounts, and it works perfectly). http://gaim.sf.net/ Hello, everybody! Can you suggest me a good chat client for Yahoo clubs Chatroom like $Windows$ Cheeta-Chat? Smiley Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] OT problem using linux
On Thursday 06 June 2002 04:16 pm, you wrote: on the other hand, if your problem is just not seeing any return or echo (like as you fill in the password, don't worry, just type the correct password and hit enter.. then enter the free and open world of Linux, were we might do it a little different than M$ winblows, but different is not neccessarly wrong. No kidding! Different is the RIGHT way of doing things! :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] WTF?????
I get this message when I send some messages to the list: This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason: Each of the following recipients was rejected by a remote mail server. The reasons given by the server are included to help you determine why each recipient was rejected. Recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reason:5.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Relaying denied. Proper authentication required. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] test
On Wednesday 05 June 2002 09:47 am, you wrote: On Wednesday 05 June 2002 06:32 am, Jay wrote: test It works. -- cmg What works? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office 6 Adabas question
On Wednesday 05 June 2002 12:56 pm, you wrote: Where can you get a copy of dBase? *sigh* It's a database format that Open/StarOffice uses, just like it supports Microsoft Word and Excel documents without you needing to use Microsoft software to edit the documents... Like I said, press F4 and add a new Data Source, of type dBase. OpenOffice is quite good with databases... If you don't like it, try MySQL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office 6 Adabas question
Umm... That's cuz Adabas is a file format, not a database editor... There is NO GUI. You can do databases in OpenOffice too... When you are in Writer or any other modules, press F4. That'll open up the data sources. Take it from there. D.Olson On Tuesday 04 June 2002 09:50 am, you wrote: Currently I'm using Mandrake 8.2 with Star Office 6 and Adabas installed for database. I previously used Star Office 5.2 with Adabas and had set up several small relational databases for home and business use. I had no problems. With SO 6, I can't figure out how to even launch Adabas After installing the Adabas package from the PowerPack Edition cd's, it automagically set up a link in my menu under Office Accessories titled Adabas Installation. I launched that, Adabas went through it's setup. It created an Adabas sub directory in my home directory (just like it should), there were no errors noted during the installation. The problem is that I can NOT find an executable file anywhere on my system to launch the Adabas GUI! In SO5.2 Adabas would launch from inside the Star Office menus. I checked to be sure Adabas was installed using the Software Manager and it shows as installed. If anyone knows what executable I need to launch to get Adabas running, please let me know. Many thanks in advance for your help. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to set up Apache to host personal web page
Install Apache. That's about it... That's all I did, and it works. The URL will be your IP. On Tuesday 04 June 2002 08:06 pm, you wrote: Has anyone set up Apache to host their own web page, and if so what is a good way to start? I have been through the man for apache and several online sources but can't really get a feel for making the html available to the internet. I will put the server ahead of my firewall but from there I am not sure how to load the pages and set the URL. Is Running Apache by O'Reilley a good instructional book for this? Point me and I will forge onward. Thanks for any Help. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to set up Apache to host personal web page
Oh yeah, and I forgot about this: By default, my users all have webpages too. In their ~/public_html/ directories. To access this, someone would go to http://my.ip.addy.here/~username/ and their webpage will load. If that isn't enabled for you, you can enable it in Webmin or the Apache config. On Tuesday 04 June 2002 08:34 pm, you wrote: Install Apache. That's about it... That's all I did, and it works. The URL will be your IP. On Tuesday 04 June 2002 08:06 pm, you wrote: Has anyone set up Apache to host their own web page, and if so what is a good way to start? I have been through the man for apache and several online sources but can't really get a feel for making the html available to the internet. I will put the server ahead of my firewall but from there I am not sure how to load the pages and set the URL. Is Running Apache by O'Reilley a good instructional book for this? Point me and I will forge onward. Thanks for any Help. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Star Office 6 Adabas question
Yeah, you need to add a new data source, then add a new table, then add a link to a document to edit... It works nearly the same as in 5.2. There must be some tutorial online somewhere. And by the way, AdabasD's file format sucks, IMHO. I just use dBase. It's simple and has no limitations. On Wednesday 05 June 2002 12:30 am, you wrote: On Tuesday 04 June 2002 02:49 pm, you wrote: Umm... That's cuz Adabas is a file format, not a database editor... There is NO GUI. You can do databases in OpenOffice too... When you are in Writer or any other modules, press F4. That'll open up the data sources. Take it from there. D.Olson Thank you for your help. I appologize for my ignorance. Star Office 5.2 apparently came with a GUI database editor for Adabas. SO 6.0 does not seem to have one! I have used Microsoft Access since their version 1.0 for relational database creation and management. Created several business specific databases with it. The database editor in Star Office 5.2 is very much like Microsoft Access and was easy for me to use and figure out. I rely heavily on the GUI at this point with Linux. I tried opening up the data sources in SO 6.0 as you suggested but it's not exactly what I am looking for. How do I create a new database with it? Adabas with 5.2 was very easy to use. I can't figure out how to get the same GUI editor with 6.0 (maybe it's no longer there). Do you have any other suggestions? Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Gui for MySQL!!!
I like that signature! Anyhow, you can interface to MySQL using Apache and a a PHP webpage, as far as I know. I didn't get much into it, but I am pretty sure you can. PHP is worth learning too. IMHO. On Wednesday 05 June 2002 12:08 am, you wrote: Hello to all of you! I've been wondering if there is any gui for use with MySQL client. Thanks a lot and cheers to everybuddy Dimitris Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Iomega Zip drive
On Monday 03 June 2002 08:28 am, you wrote: What happens if you try /mnt/zip /mnt/zip supermount dev=/dev/sda4,fs=vfat 0 0 ? Just guessing, cuz that's how my CD-ROM drive is.. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux virus
Hey, umm we've been discussing this for a while already. Just join in our conversation. On Monday 03 June 2002 08:34 pm, you wrote: Hi, I know the likelihood of a linux virus is very (extremely) small but at Symantec there is a write up about one http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/linux.simile.html Does anyone on the list have any info on this particular virus.the method of checking on a linux system; how to be rid of it, etc? Thanks and regards, Bill W. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux virus
Oh geez... Sorry... I am subscribed to both the newbie and the expert mailing lists... Heh... Sorry again. :| On Monday 03 June 2002 10:46 pm, you wrote: Hi, I checked the archives'virus', 'trojan', 'simile', etc.nothing is showing up.can you give me a message header to work with here... tia, Bill W. On Monday 03 June 2002 05:51 pm, you wrote: Hey, umm we've been discussing this for a while already. Just join in our conversation. On Monday 03 June 2002 08:34 pm, you wrote: Hi, I know the likelihood of a linux virus is very (extremely) small but at Symantec there is a write up about one http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/linux.simile.html Does anyone on the list have any info on this particular virus.the method of checking on a linux system; how to be rid of it, etc? Thanks and regards, Bill W. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] This sucks vacuum hard... ;-(
Gah. I'm glad I am not an American. But sadly, my government isn't much better and would probably have given in long ago. I should move to Peru... Hmm Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] (Most) Linuxes unite
On Friday 31 May 2002 09:56 am, you wrote: From what I have read they are not interested in the desktop side anyway, only the server. Also Mandrake have been contacted, but after the signing of the deal, but the same time as redhat. Tony. Well, it doesn't matter because they invite any company to join, and all this is is a base for distros... There will still be SuSE, Turbo, etc. just all will be compatible... Really isn't a bad idea, IMO. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Unreal
Quake or Quake 2? I have a tutorial on my site for Quake. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Thrown off the list ?
On Friday 31 May 2002 09:50 pm, you wrote: On the other hand : maybe I just screwed something up in my post. Something that the internet can't digest. - Like spam ??? Well, I can't digest spam myself, so there ya go. ;) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Unreal
Did anyone try this yet? I was considering buying it tomorrow, but I hear that it is pretty hacked together... If it is good, then I will get it. Hey, what's another Native Linux game to add to my collection? Unreal is like $10 here or something. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] StarOffice
On Thursday 30 May 2002 09:29 am, you wrote: On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 22:01, Terry Sheltra wrote: and download OpenOffice 6.0 for free. From what I've seen and heard, OpenOffice is no different than StarOffice, just that it's free. OpenOffice 6 is out? When did that happen? I just downloaded 1.0 like a couple weeks ago... I guess they still haven't updated their site yet, because it still says 1.0. Link? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Unreal
Let me clarify: I already have UT GOTY edition... I have a tutorial for installing it on my site (http://mdkxp.by-a.com/). What I was asking about was the original Unreal, the one that someone just released a Loki installer for. I think I may buy it anyhow. Someone else told me that it works well. DOlson On Thursday 30 May 2002 11:46 am, you wrote: On Thu, 30 May 2002, D. Olson wrote: Did anyone try this yet? I was considering buying it tomorrow, but I hear that it is pretty hacked together... If it is good, then I will get it. Hey, what's another Native Linux game to add to my collection? Unreal is like $10 here or something. :) believe me when I tell you it is the best $10 dollars you will have ever spent on a game to run in Linux. Provided you're not going to try and run on a machine less then a PII with at least 128MB of RAM and a vid card with less then 16MB of memory on it. as for Unreal itself you will have to get the version that installs in windows and then download the Linux binary to install what's on the CD's to your Linux system. It looks and plays exactly the same in Linux as it does in windows thanks to OpenGL. Loki has done a spectacular job on this game. if you get the CD's labeled UT_GOTY let me know. there is a specific binary that you'll need to run to install the game correctly. I have it here at home and can stick on the FTP server for you no trouble at all. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] StarOffice
Link? http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/mandrake8.2/OpenOffice.org-1.0-3mdk.i58 6.rpm and for better fonts on your 8.2 system, also get http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/mandrake8.2/freetype2-2.0.9-3plf.i586.r pm Openoffice uses almost entirely different code than SO 6, and many report it's better than SO 6. OO had to be rewritten in it's beginning to rid itself of SO's proprietary code. SO is now aimed mostly at Windoze Office users. That's what I have... It's OpenOffice.org 1.0, not 6.0. I think shane was right. There is not OOo 6.0 yet. And most likely won't be for a lng time. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Unreal
On Thursday 30 May 2002 02:46 pm, you wrote: Are we talking about Unreal or Unreal Tournament here?? Well, I was talking about Unreal. If I had been talking about Unreal Tournament, I would have said UT or Unreal Tournament. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Unreal
On Friday 31 May 2002 12:17 am, you wrote: It is the Loki release for Linux, right? If so, then grab it. Works great with my Geforce here No, someone hacked the UT installer and made it so you can use Unreal in Linux now too. I am told at MUB that it is really cool, so I am looking to get it now. Its a wonderful game though, and worth the effort to get it setup... ;-) I have a tutorial on installing UT on my site. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] New Frozen Bubble and js question
Frozen Bubble 0.9.3 came out today, as far as I know... Does anyone know if you can emulate keystrokes somehow with a joystick? I REALLY want to play this game with my joystick. Thanks! -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ Outlook is a petri dish. I don't know why anyone uses it. -- James Gosling, Sun Microsystems Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DivX Player - Solution found
On Monday 20 May 2002 04:59 pm, you wrote: Thanks a lot Ralph! I'll be sure to check out MPlayer too, but I decided to go with the player from divx.com since I've had so much trouble getting any of the other programs to recognize the codec - namely Xine. Yeah, IMHO, Xine sucks. MPlayer is THE PLAYER. BTW, sorry to whoever had this originally, but I stole a piece of your signature... I liked it that much. Also, I want people to ask what that is supposed to mean, and that will give me a reason to throw Linux in their face. Hehe... -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ Outlook is a petri dish. I don't know why anyone uses it. -- James Gosling, Sun Microsystems Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DivX Player - Solution found
the original, full quote is There are two kinds of security problems. The first kind arises where people are too stupid for words. Outlook is a petri dish. I don't know why anyone uses it. -- James Gosling, lead engineer and architect of Java at Sun Microsystems Yeah, I know. That's where I took my signature from... a petri dish is the little clear plastic plate doctors use to grow cultures. in other words outlook is only good for growing a virus. And yeah, I know that. I took science class back in public school and high school... And yeah, I know what Oulook's downfalls are... Don't you think it'd be kinda dumb for me to take a quote as my sig if I didn't understand it? LOL! But thanks anyhow! -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ Outlook is a petri dish. I don't know why anyone uses it. -- James Gosling, Sun Microsystems Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DivX Player - Solution found
On Monday 20 May 2002 06:32 pm, you wrote: ok, so i totally misread what you said. i blame lack of sleep due to an 8 month old.. :) *note to self, re-read everything before posting until you get a full night sleep. like when the kid is 7. :) Hehehe. No problems. :) -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ Outlook is a petri dish. I don't know why anyone uses it. -- James Gosling, Sun Microsystems Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Winex Supported Games
On Friday 17 May 2002 11:29 am, you wrote: actually the worst performing game i have in linux, is the linux version of quake, i wonder how the windows running in wine would compare. i may just try that.. Quake? Or Quake 3? If it is Quake, then I have a tutorial RPM on my site for a very nice Quake engine, and it runs really fast on my computer. -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Winex Supported Games
Hmm... Can you point me in the direction of getting Quake 2 to work? I use an NVidia card.. If that matters. Thanks! On Friday 17 May 2002 01:19 pm, you wrote: On Friday 17 May 2002 10:09, D. Olson opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: Quake? Or Quake 3? If it is Quake, then I have a tutorial RPM on my site for a very nice Quake engine, and it runs really fast on my computer. sorry, actually it is quake 2 and 3. but not 1 :-) -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Winex Supported Games - Quake (original)
On Friday 17 May 2002 01:53 pm, you wrote: * Setting are apparently not saved anywhere. Can I set up a config file? Umm... I think that they are supposed to be in your home directory in a .twilight folder or something... * There is no option to turn mouselook on permanently--at least that I can find. Do you know of a way to do that? No clue... I just play the game. Miark -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Winex Supported Games
On Thursday 16 May 2002 02:06 am, you wrote: Its a Geforce2 i'm running quake normally, nothing special no winex And you only get 20fps? You installed the NVidia drivers properly? That's messed... -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Logitech Quickcam
I want to get this thing to work... I did once, but it was very choppy. The method I used was I downloaded some driver from some little website, and it wasn't very good... Is there an easy way to do this in Mandrake? -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Winex Supported Games
I have a list of games that I *personally* have tested in WineX. Here is the HTML version of my spreadsheet: http://mdkxp.by-a.com/winex/WineXGames.html -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Question Re: [newbie] Samba is not working in 8.2
On Monday 13 May 2002 02:23 am, you wrote: Hi, I've just installed new 8.2 from Linux Format DVD. Ohh So... The latest Linux Format DVD has Mandrake 8.2 on it? Does it have anything else? Or just Mandrake? And is it a bootable DVD, or does it just have ISOs on it? This would be handier than the 3 CDs... -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 8.2 DVD
Thanks for replying! I think I may pick this up. Sounds good. Question... Is there a way to burn it to CDs if required? Or is this not something that would work? On Monday 13 May 2002 07:04 pm, you wrote: Hi, Monday, May 13, 2002, 11:56:46 PM, you wrote: DO Ohh So... The latest Linux Format DVD has Mandrake 8.2 on it? Does it DO have anything else? Or just Mandrake? And is it a bootable DVD, or does it DO just have ISOs on it? This would be handier than the 3 CDs... Installs straight from DVD and it has a lot of other stuff on it. Check magazine out for details. With best wishes, Dave -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] semi OT redhat battles the evil empire?
I saw that on Red Hat's site when I went to download RH7.3. It didn't phase me one bit. I have RH7.3 on here, but IMHO, it sucks. I am sticking with Mandrake. Mandrake is on my server, my PC (along with RH and Win98SE (which I only have for learning purposes - Samba PDC BABY YEAH!), and my wife's PC. Here are details: http://www.redhat.com/software/linux/upgrade_rebate.html Oh, and if you look at that in more detail, I dont see how that is really a bad thing... If I buy Mandrake PowerPack or whatever, then Red Hat is willing to give me a discount when I buy Red Hat... What's wrong with that? They aren't saying that you can't use Mandrake anymore... They are just being nice and giving a deal. I like that. -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] semi OT redhat battles the evil empire?
On Saturday 11 May 2002 10:55 am, you wrote: that is my opinion too. still, mandrake has the big market share in linux right now, and suse compares well with mandrake. redhat well, in many ways doesn't. is redhat afraid they are on the way out? if so, why try to keep share by taking other linux users rather than windows? They AREN'T. They are simply giving a discount to other Linux users... If I bought Mandrake PowerPack 8.2, then I decided hey, I'd like to buy Red Hat 7.3 as well I would rather pay $10 or $20 less JUST BECAUSE I BOUGHT MANDRAKE. And that is what they are doing. You don't sign any agreement to NEVER use Mandrake again, you don't have to agree that you REMOVE it from your PC, or anything like that. Quit complaining about a company that is giving Linux users a discount. And how could Red Hat be on the way out? They are supported by the big companies, such as IBM. -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] semi OT redhat battles the evil empire?
On Saturday 11 May 2002 01:16 pm, you wrote: They AREN'T. They are simply giving a discount to other Linux users... Do you know that for a fact, or are you just giving them the benefit of the doubt? Umm... They aren't forcing anyone to give away their Mandrake CDs, and they aren't forcing you to agree to not use Mandrake... You should be a little less hasty toward a company that produced much of Mandrake. -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] semi OT redhat battles the evil empire?
On Saturday 11 May 2002 02:40 pm, you wrote: i _am_ going to pass judgement on the fact that while that rebate seems reasonable, why is it not extended to users of, say for example, win95 or win98? Because that would be rewarding those people who support Microsoft by buying their software? -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] semi OT redhat battles the evil empire?
On Saturday 11 May 2002 02:44 pm, you wrote: i am not saying they are, i do know they have said there is no chance of a linux desktop Yes, and their distro SUCKS for a desktop. that most ppl who use linux as a desktop rather than a server use something else, and that now their desktop offering has a rebate for upgrading from other linux disros. i am asking if redhat perhaps percieves they are losing ground. Maybe they are... But so long as they have the support of the big companies, they don't have to worry. Whether you or I like it or not, Red Hat is te defacto standard as far as Linux is concerned. They have done much good work, and as a result, Mandrake was created. I personally prefer Mandrake as a distro, and as a company, because they do believe in the Linux desktop market. I am not going to battle it out with you guys over this stupid Red Hat issue. Red Hat users hate Mandrake users, and Mandrake users hate Red Hat users. It's a brutal war. Get over it. It is a freaking distro of Linux. Use what you want, and stop bitching about the other. Okay... Now, if Mandrake offered a discount for Red Hat or SuSE users, would you all flip out at Mandrake and scream foul! foul! or would you be all Yay Mandrake! You beat up that mean guy in red! I am betting on the latter. -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: now way OT was Re: [newbie] semi OT redhat battles the evil empire?
is there anyone who would like to address the actual (attempted) topic, does redhat feel they are slipping away as a desktop offering? or shall we just play taps and bury this? :) Red Hat doesn't try to be a desktop offereing. They made that clear to me at least when they said that Linux will NEVER succeed on the desktop IMHO, of course. -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] semi OT redhat battles the evil empire?
That wasn't the point of my email... I bought Windows 98 SE only three months ago, even though I have been using Mandrake for 6 months... I have nothing against buying Windows... I just mean that Red Hat would be giving a rebate to people who bought MS software, which is stupid. IMHO. On Saturday 11 May 2002 06:51 pm, you wrote: D. Olson wrote: On Saturday 11 May 2002 02:40 pm, you wrote: i _am_ going to pass judgement on the fact that while that rebate seems reasonable, why is it not extended to users of, say for example, win95 or win98? Because that would be rewarding those people who support Microsoft by buying their software? Ummm soo sorry, but that conjecture seems a bit unreasonable. Most people have 95 or 98 because they perceived at the time that they had no other choice or simply did not know any better. Those who have it because they want to support Microsoft are unlikely to be buying _ANY_ linux distro. Civileme -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
