Re: [newbie] Windows LiLo
On Tuesday 27 Apr 2004 09:43, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Er...I think we've been through this already (day late and a dollar short) NYAH! I rolled over and took it like a Man in the end I reinstalled, and whilst I was at it, set aside 3GB as FAT32, and reloaded '98 on my main drive. It's there, as it worked before I reinstalled LiLo. Trouble is, it aint showing up on LiLo again! And LiLo is on my MBR, and Windows is first on the drive. Oh well, I hopefully will be able to get it going :-) , It's not as though there has been no posts on the subject, so a trawl through the archives may bring up some info! JRH -- Sent using Kmail, on Mandrake Linux 10 Community Exposing Microsoft products directly to the internet, is a bit like painting a large bullseye on your butt, and bending over, naked, in a San Francisco steam room. Except, Microsoft isnt nearly as safe Registered Linux User #340061 ICQ: #86015236 Yahoo!: v6vitanic 16:55:03 up 11 min, 1 user, load average: 0.97, 1.33, 0.91 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Windows LiLo
On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 01:55, JRH wrote: On Tuesday 27 Apr 2004 09:43, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Er...I think we've been through this already (day late and a dollar short) NYAH! I rolled over and took it like a Man in the end I reinstalled, and whilst I was at it, set aside 3GB as FAT32, and reloaded '98 on my main drive. It's there, as it worked before I reinstalled LiLo. Trouble is, it aint showing up on LiLo again! And LiLo is on my MBR, and Windows is first on the drive. Oh well, I hopefully will be able to get it going :-) , It's not as though there has been no posts on the subject, so a trawl through the archives may bring up some info! JRH So now you should be able to point lilo to the /dev/hda1 and boot - have you tried that now? stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Pause for storage relocation. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Windows LiLo
On Tuesday 27 Apr 2004 19:51, Stephen Kuhn wrote: So now you should be able to point lilo to the /dev/hda1 and boot - have you tried that now? Not yet. havent had chance! Just been setting up a Lexmark (spit) printer on my neighbours Windows (spit) computer. Once I have had a coffee and recovered from the stress of the situation, I will have a go! :-) JRH -- Sent using Kmail, on Mandrake Linux 10 Community Exposing Microsoft products directly to the internet, is a bit like painting a large bullseye on your butt, and bending over, naked, in a San Francisco steam room. Except, Microsoft isnt nearly as safe Registered Linux User #340061 ICQ: #86015236 Yahoo!: v6vitanic 19:57:23 up 3:13, 1 user, load average: 0.77, 0.38, 0.24 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Windows LiLo
On Tuesday 27 April 2004 05:14 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2004-04-27 at 20:07, Frank wrote: Good call Tina. ...ya ain't allowed to agree with her! (grin) (...reckon I'll sleep on the lounge tonight) stephen kuhn - owner I thought we were not supposed to agree with Joe! You can't have it both ways. Can ya? -- Dennis M. Linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Windows LiLo
On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 12:41, Dennis Myers wrote: On Tuesday 27 April 2004 05:14 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2004-04-27 at 20:07, Frank wrote: Good call Tina. ...ya ain't allowed to agree with her! (grin) (...reckon I'll sleep on the lounge tonight) stephen kuhn - owner I thought we were not supposed to agree with Joe! You can't have it both ways. Can ya? Point well taken. stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're talking about. -- John von Neumann Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Windows LiLo
Hi all. Until a week ago, Windows used to share my HDD alongside Linux. Then, last weekend, MS-DOS decided it was going to ruin my Linux install (with a little help from me inadvertently I guess!). I have tried to survive without a Windows partition, but In reality, I cant. I have loaded up 98 onto an old 2GB I have lying around, and have installed it in the box, as a slave drive. Now the fun bit. DiskDrake is seeing it, and calling it /dev/hdd1. When I set LiLo to boot from this, it doesent happen. Probably because the drive isnt mounted at this point?? Any Ideas how I can configure the boot loader to pick it up, and boot into Windows from this drive? I flatly refuse to let Linux and Windows co-exist on the same drive anymore!! (if I could find Linux versions of the software I got, I would forget it totally!). JRH -- Sent using Kmail, on Mandrake Linux 10 Community Exposing Microsoft products directly to the internet, is a bit like painting a large bullseye on your butt, and bending over, naked, in a San Francisco steam room. Except, Microsoft isnt nearly as safe Registered Linux User #340061 ICQ: #86015236 Yahoo!: v6vitanic 12:01:27 up 4 min, 1 user, load average: 2.04, 1.35, 0.57 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Windows LiLo
On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 21:06, JRH wrote: Hi all. Until a week ago, Windows used to share my HDD alongside Linux. Then, last weekend, MS-DOS decided it was going to ruin my Linux install (with a little help from me inadvertently I guess!). I have tried to survive without a Windows partition, but In reality, I cant. I have loaded up 98 onto an old 2GB I have lying around, and have installed it in the box, as a slave drive. Now the fun bit. DiskDrake is seeing it, and calling it /dev/hdd1. When I set LiLo to boot from this, it doesent happen. Probably because the drive isnt mounted at this point?? Any Ideas how I can configure the boot loader to pick it up, and boot into Windows from this drive? I flatly refuse to let Linux and Windows co-exist on the same drive anymore!! (if I could find Linux versions of the software I got, I would forget it totally!). JRH After you edited the /etc/lilo.conf - did you re-run lilo? stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Fakir, n: A psychologist whose charismatic data have inspired almost religious devotion in his followers, even though the sources seem to have shinnied up a rope and vanished. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Windows LiLo
On Sunday 25 Apr 2004 12:28, Stephen Kuhn wrote: JRH After you edited the /etc/lilo.conf - did you re-run lilo? Ahh hold up Stephen. I used the GUI tool to alter things. looks like it hasnt saved it! I've noticed it has a habit of doing stuff like that, for example, when I copy my ADSL modem firmware across in drakconnect, it will copy from the floppy, but wont actually save it to the relevant folder. you have to do it manually! That looks like what has happened here... oh well, best VI it then! JRH -- Sent using Kmail, on Mandrake Linux 10 Community Exposing Microsoft products directly to the internet, is a bit like painting a large bullseye on your butt, and bending over, naked, in a San Francisco steam room. Except, Microsoft isnt nearly as safe Registered Linux User #340061 ICQ: #86015236 Yahoo!: v6vitanic 12:44:03 up 46 min, 1 user, load average: 0.69, 0.86, 1.23 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] 9.2 lilo? problems. (solution)
What was needed was acpi=off in lilo config. What confuses me is why it was fine for at least 12 reboots and then all of a sudden stops? Because of the 12 reboots it never even crossed my mind about acpi causing the problem (possibly my lack of knowledge of it as well). -Original Message- From: Paul Kaplan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 10:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] 9.2 lilo? problems. You might try going through the installation routine in expert mode (hit F1 at then type expert to start the installation program). Use existing partitions, but don't reformat them. Select individual package selection when given the chance and then go through the list an only install the appropriate kernel packages. This should be similar similar to rpm -Uvh, which will restore a damaged rpm file. Then continue the installation routine accepting all the default entries (no need to enter new users or passwords as you haven't changed exisiting settings. Worth a try. P On Friday 31 October 2003 05:11 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote: All, I am having a bit of a problem with 9.2. My system is a Asus a7n8x Deluxe 2800+ amd 1gb Corsair ram 2 x 120gb sata hard drives dvd-+rw. I had stability problems with 9.1 and could not find the problem (didn't try to hard as 9.2 was due) have installed 9.2 several times and seemed to have got rid of the stability problem. The new problem I have is after using it for a day or 2, I start my PC and lilo loads but when I try to start any of the kernels it does nothing. Again last night I did a reinstall and rebooted several times last night after updating to see if I could find what caused the problem. The last reboot done last night I did not update anything. I left it running for 2 hours and then shutdown. This morning it will not load any kernel through lilo, it just does nothing. The strangest thing is that is does boot w2k. Any ideas where to start? Thanks, Tony. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] grub lilo
Frank wrote: I'm starting to learn more about grub. And on a Mandrake system that means trouble for someone. I've used both grub and lilo, and cannot find much to choose between them, but mandrake tends to prefer lilo so I use that now days. You see, I now have my primary disk exclusively Mandrake and though the first partition is /boot I have yet to see Lilo ala GUI perform reliably yet. The first screen always comes up OK Called the splash scrre, and offers you choice of OS to boot but when lilo moves on to the second screen, Do you mean the login screen, where you choose which person to log in as ? well, I get to boot successfully usually after the third or fourth try. Form login, or the whole thing ? How much memory ? Sounds to me like maybe xwindows is failing maybe ? Are you booting ked ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] grub lilo
I have used lilo for years and since I changed and learned grub - well I think it is marvelous. Well of course every individual has his/her own taste and I like that. Johan *** - Original Message - From: Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] grub lilo I'm starting to learn more about grub. And on a Mandrake system that means trouble for someone. You see, I now have my primary disk exclusively Mandrake and though the first partition is /boot I have yet to see Lilo ala GUI perform reliably yet. The first screen always comes up OK but when lilo moves on to the second screen, well, I get to boot successfully usually after the third or fourth try. I have had this problem since Mandrake9.0 and it gets annoying when my system will not boot up first time each day. I guess that makes this a con for lilo then? -- Regards Frank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 James Conner wrote: On Sunday 26 October 2003 08:33 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: I've heard grub is experimental .. but RH uses it almost exclusively and alot of ppl say its better than LILO. True? False? I'd search google for a site detailing the differences Pros/cons of each but I don't kow where to start... I know I know, I'm usually good at research but I'm stumped on this. Can somoene gimme a pointer pls? even a google URL? thx Femme I've used both. There are pros and cons on both. Grub: Pros: - You can edit the config file and not worry about having to write it to the mbr like lilo, it'll take effect on the next boot. - You can edit stanzas on the fly on the Grub menu on boot. Cons: - If you mess up the config file, you might end up with a unbootable system. This can be a nightmare for people doing remote support. Lilo: Pros: After you edit the lilo config file you can do a lilo -v and know if you messed anything up or not. Well, most of the time. Syntax is easier to understand and use for newbies. Cons: Versions older than 2 years will have the dreaded 1024 cylinder barrier for /boot. I'm sure that there are more, but that's all I can think of off the top of my head. I usually setup new users with lilo, it's easier to understand and modify if necessary. Jim Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] grub lilo
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:10:17 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank wrote: I'm starting to learn more about grub. And on a Mandrake system that means trouble for someone. I've used both grub and lilo, and cannot find much to choose between them, but mandrake tends to prefer lilo so I use that now days. Strangely, grub was their choice for non-expert install on my first Mandrake distro 7.1. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] grub lilo
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 23:26:42 + James Conner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've used both. There are pros and cons on both. SNIPPAGE I'm sure that there are more, but that's all I can think of off the top of my head. I usually setup new users with lilo, it's easier to understand and modify if necessary. Jim -- Thx Jim thats what I wanted to know! Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] grub lilo
For the differences: Lilo uses the BIOS to access the partition where the image is residing. It is file-system independent. This is accomplished at boot sector installation time, by translating the location of the kernel image into a list of disk sectors, which then LILO loads using the BIOS. As a consequence, when you change anything about the kernel (location, configuration...) you need to re-run lilo so that it can update the map. Grub incorporates a reduced version of a file system, so it uses the file system meta-information to access the kernel image at boot time. That's why you don't need to re-run grub after modifying the kernel: it gets the information it needs directly from the FS. Check Almesberger's paper Booting linux: the history and the future for a very good overview, for example at: ftp://icaftp.epfl.ch/pub/people/almesber/booting/bootinglinux-0.ps.gz raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've heard grub is experimental .. but RH uses it almost exclusively and alot of ppl say its better than LILO. True? False? I'd search google for a site detailing the differences Pros/cons of each but I don't kow where to start... I know I know, I'm usually good at research but I'm stumped on this. Can somoene gimme a pointer pls? even a google URL? thx Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] grub lilo
Sorry, I should have written Grub incorporates a reduced version of a file system _driver_ raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the differences: Lilo uses the BIOS to access the partition where the image is residing. It is file-system independent. This is accomplished at boot sector installation time, by translating the location of the kernel image into a list of disk sectors, which then LILO loads using the BIOS. As a consequence, when you change anything about the kernel (location, configuration...) you need to re-run lilo so that it can update the map. Grub incorporates a reduced version of a file system, so it uses the file system meta-information to access the kernel image at boot time. That's why you don't need to re-run grub after modifying the kernel: it gets the information it needs directly from the FS. Check Almesberger's paper Booting linux: the history and the future for a very good overview, for example at: ftp://icaftp.epfl.ch/pub/people/almesber/booting/bootinglinux-0.ps.gz raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've heard grub is experimental .. but RH uses it almost exclusively and alot of ppl say its better than LILO. True? False? I'd search google for a site detailing the differences Pros/cons of each but I don't kow where to start... I know I know, I'm usually good at research but I'm stumped on this. Can somoene gimme a pointer pls? even a google URL? thx Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] grub lilo
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:21:22 +0100 Raffaele Belardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the differences: Lilo uses the BIOS to access the partition where the image is residing. It is file-system independent. This is accomplished at boot sector installation time, by translating the location of the kernel image into a list of disk sectors, which then LILO loads using the BIOS. As a consequence, when you change anything about the kernel (location, configuration...) you need to re-run lilo so that it can update the map. Grub incorporates a reduced version of a file system, so it uses the file system meta-information to access the kernel image at boot time. That's why you don't need to re-run grub after modifying the kernel: it gets the information it needs directly from the FS. Check Almesberger's paper Booting linux: the history and the future for a very good overview, for example at: ftp://icaftp.epfl.ch/pub/people/almesber/booting/bootinglinux-0.ps.gz raffaele thx your explanation was sufficient for me :) Concise enough I understood perfectly. FEmme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] grub lilo
I'm starting to learn more about grub. And on a Mandrake system that means trouble for someone. You see, I now have my primary disk exclusively Mandrake and though the first partition is /boot I have yet to see Lilo ala GUI perform reliably yet. The first screen always comes up OK but when lilo moves on to the second screen, well, I get to boot successfully usually after the third or fourth try. I have had this problem since Mandrake9.0 and it gets annoying when my system will not boot up first time each day. I guess that makes this a con for lilo then? -- Regards Frank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 James Conner wrote: On Sunday 26 October 2003 08:33 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: I've heard grub is experimental .. but RH uses it almost exclusively and alot of ppl say its better than LILO. True? False? I'd search google for a site detailing the differences Pros/cons of each but I don't kow where to start... I know I know, I'm usually good at research but I'm stumped on this. Can somoene gimme a pointer pls? even a google URL? thx Femme I've used both. There are pros and cons on both. Grub: Pros: - You can edit the config file and not worry about having to write it to the mbr like lilo, it'll take effect on the next boot. - You can edit stanzas on the fly on the Grub menu on boot. Cons: - If you mess up the config file, you might end up with a unbootable system. This can be a nightmare for people doing remote support. Lilo: Pros: After you edit the lilo config file you can do a lilo -v and know if you messed anything up or not. Well, most of the time. Syntax is easier to understand and use for newbies. Cons: Versions older than 2 years will have the dreaded 1024 cylinder barrier for /boot. I'm sure that there are more, but that's all I can think of off the top of my head. I usually setup new users with lilo, it's easier to understand and modify if necessary. Jim Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] grub lilo
On Sunday 26 October 2003 03:33 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: I've heard grub is experimental .. but RH uses it almost exclusively and alot of ppl say its better than LILO. True? False? I use GrUB. I wouldn't call it experimental. It works great. I'd search google for a site detailing the differences Pros/cons of each but I don't kow where to start... I know I know, I'm usually good at research but I'm stumped on this. Can somoene gimme a pointer pls? even a google URL? For me the biggest is that if you make a config change, you don't have to run lilo. Just make your change and reboot. The other thing I like is that you can edit any boot stanza at runtime, meaning that if I made a mistake in my configuration, append statements, etc. I can edit it at boot. I don't use this, but I think it handles hiding partitions better than lilo does too. This is important for some alternative OS's like Darwin, which must be on the first partition of the first disk. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] grub lilo
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 20:08:16 -0500 Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIPPAGE For me the biggest is that if you make a config change, you don't have to run lilo. Just make your change and reboot. The other thing I like is that you can edit any boot stanza at runtime, meaning that if I made a mistake in my configuration, append statements, etc. I can edit it at boot. -- /g thx guess that helps some. heh Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] grub lilo
On Sunday 26 October 2003 08:33 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: I've heard grub is experimental .. but RH uses it almost exclusively and alot of ppl say its better than LILO. True? False? I'd search google for a site detailing the differences Pros/cons of each but I don't kow where to start... I know I know, I'm usually good at research but I'm stumped on this. Can somoene gimme a pointer pls? even a google URL? thx Femme I've used both. There are pros and cons on both. Grub: Pros: - You can edit the config file and not worry about having to write it to the mbr like lilo, it'll take effect on the next boot. - You can edit stanzas on the fly on the Grub menu on boot. Cons: - If you mess up the config file, you might end up with a unbootable system. This can be a nightmare for people doing remote support. Lilo: Pros: After you edit the lilo config file you can do a lilo -v and know if you messed anything up or not. Well, most of the time. Syntax is easier to understand and use for newbies. Cons: Versions older than 2 years will have the dreaded 1024 cylinder barrier for /boot. I'm sure that there are more, but that's all I can think of off the top of my head. I usually setup new users with lilo, it's easier to understand and modify if necessary. Jim -- 11:01pm up 2 days, 9:17, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 Running Mandrake 9.0 - Linux - because life is too short for reboots... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Removing lilo
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 07:50, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 22:17:01 -0400 yankl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from man lilo snip - u [device-name] Uninstall lilo by copying the saved boot sector back. The '-s' and '-C' switches may be used with this option. The device-name is optional. A time-stamp is checked. /snip so from command line do #lilo -u A caveat to this is that a New saved copy of the bootsector is made each time lilo is run so lilo -u may not necessarily restore the Win bootloader. Charles -- When I was crossing the border into Canada, they asked if I had any firearms with me. I said, Well, what do you need? -- Steven Wright - Mandrake Linux 9.2 on PurpleDragon Kernel-2.4.22-10mdk-i686-up-4GB http://www.eslrahc.com - Yeah, lilo -u didn't work. After doing it, the machine wouldn't boot at all. I put my 9.1 cd in and went into rescue, thinking I'd re-install Lilo, then I noticed an option for Restore windows bootloader or something like that. I thought it would just overwrite the MBR with the same /boot/0300 file that lilo -u did, but I decided to give it a try anyway. It worked like a charm. Scott Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Removing lilo
On Saturday 20 September 2003 10:16 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: On Saturday 20 September 2003 07:41 pm, Scott wrote: Hello I want to take a slave hard drive out of a box that I gave to my daughter and install it my box. The primary drive in her box has XP on it. How do I remove lilo from hda and turn booting back over to XP? Thanks, Scott Scott I believe that you would do fdisk /MBR from a dos console in Windex. Somebody slap me if I'm wrong. HTH Slap With Windows XP, the correct command would be to run fixmbr from the recovery console after booting from the WinXP disk. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Removing lilo
On Sunday 21 September 2003 10:01 am, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Saturday 20 September 2003 10:16 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: On Saturday 20 September 2003 07:41 pm, Scott wrote: Hello I want to take a slave hard drive out of a box that I gave to my daughter and install it my box. The primary drive in her box has XP on it. How do I remove lilo from hda and turn booting back over to XP? Thanks, Scott Scott I believe that you would do fdisk /MBR from a dos console in Windex. Somebody slap me if I'm wrong. HTH Slap With Windows XP, the correct command would be to run fixmbr from the recovery console after booting from the WinXP disk. Thank you, I needed that. Although I have never used XP before. : ) -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Removing lilo
On Sunday 21 September 2003 11:25 am, Dennis Myers wrote: On Sunday 21 September 2003 10:01 am, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Saturday 20 September 2003 10:16 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: On Saturday 20 September 2003 07:41 pm, Scott wrote: Hello I want to take a slave hard drive out of a box that I gave to my daughter and install it my box. The primary drive in her box has XP on it. How do I remove lilo from hda and turn booting back over to XP? Thanks, Scott Scott I believe that you would do fdisk /MBR from a dos console in Windex. Somebody slap me if I'm wrong. HTH Slap With Windows XP, the correct command would be to run fixmbr from the recovery console after booting from the WinXP disk. Thank you, I needed that. Although I have never used XP before. : ) Okay, you make aspersions as to my lack of character from using XP in replay to the slap. I guess I had that one coming:-0 -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Removing lilo
On Saturday 20 September 2003 07:41 pm, Scott wrote: Hello I want to take a slave hard drive out of a box that I gave to my daughter and install it my box. The primary drive in her box has XP on it. How do I remove lilo from hda and turn booting back over to XP? Thanks, Scott Scott I believe that you would do fdisk /MBR from a dos console in Windex. Somebody slap me if I'm wrong. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Removing lilo
On Saturday 20 September 2003 08:41 pm, Scott wrote: Hello I want to take a slave hard drive out of a box that I gave to my daughter and install it my box. The primary drive in her box has XP on it. How do I remove lilo from hda and turn booting back over to XP? Thanks, Scott from man lilo snip - u [device-name] Uninstall lilo by copying the saved boot sector back. The '-s' and '-C' switches may be used with this option. The device-name is optional. A time-stamp is checked. /snip so from command line do #lilo -u -- Yankl Tiny IT guy. 100 % Micro$oft free. Registered linux users 181086 URL: http://yankele.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Removing lilo
Yes, but you need to boot using a Win98 boot disk to do that AFAIK. So, get one, boot to a DOS prompt and the command you gave IS then correct. =) Cheers Jason Dennis Myers wrote: On Saturday 20 September 2003 07:41 pm, Scott wrote: Hello I want to take a slave hard drive out of a box that I gave to my daughter and install it my box. The primary drive in her box has XP on it. How do I remove lilo from hda and turn booting back over to XP? Thanks, Scott Scott I believe that you would do fdisk /MBR from a dos console in Windex. Somebody slap me if I'm wrong. HTH Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Aiuto LILO/Linux/Windows
Salve a tutti, avrei bisogno di aiuto riguardo a Linux. Ho un portatile Toshiba Satellite, con un disco rigido partizionato in questo modo: hda1--- Linux MAndrake 9.0 hda3--- Windows XP Professional Ho avuto la cattiva idea di reinstallare Windows nella sua partizione, ma da quello che ho capito l'installazione di Win mi ha anche cancellato (o "confuso") il LILO, quindi adesso quando accendo il computer mi parte direttamente Windows XP senza darmi la possibilita' di accedere alla partizione di Linux. Ho provato anche con dei boot loader per windows, ma essi hanno comunque bisogno, per far partire linux, che sia innstallato e sia funzionante il LILO. Come posso fare? help me =) grazie in ogni caso Luke
Re: [newbie] Aiuto LILO/Linux/Windows
On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 11:22, Luca Tonin wrote: Salve a tutti, avrei bisogno di aiuto riguardo a Linux. Ho un portatile Toshiba Satellite, con un disco rigido partizionato in questo modo: hda1--- Linux MAndrake 9.0 hda3--- Windows XP Professional Ho avuto la cattiva idea di reinstallare Windows nella sua partizione, ma da quello che ho capito l'installazione di Win mi ha anche cancellato (o confuso) il LILO, quindi adesso quando accendo il computer mi parte direttamente Windows XP senza darmi la possibilita' di accedere alla partizione di Linux. Ho provato anche con dei boot loader per windows, ma essi hanno comunque bisogno, per far partire linux, che sia innstallato e sia funzionante il LILO. Come posso fare? help me =) grazie in ogni caso Luke The MBR was rewritten and, of course, Win now dominates his computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] using lilo to customize login
sure you can make a stanza in lilo.conf for that, or you can hit TAB and type lilo 3 with out the quotes for no startx On Saturday 18 January 2003 10:20 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote: Being that graphical login and text login pertain to different system runlevels, it would be tricky at best - but there is a way to have a selection AFTER you've booted the kernel to allow for a text shell or a graphical shell. Just a wild guess. Remember that I am a newbie. Maybe we can control the start of the graphical interface within the script that start it at the proper run level Just a [y/n] question. can't we? If this is possible, then we have almost the same flexibility. Just a wild guess. __ / \\ @ ____@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A. / ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\/ // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___ / _/\__\\//__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] using lilo to customize login
consider passing the runlevels to the kernel in a lilo.conf stanza On Sunday 19 January 2003 12:49 am, Adolfo Bello wrote: Maybe we can control the start of the graphical interface within the script that start it at the proper run level Just a [y/n] question. can't we? If this is possible, then we have almost the same flexibility. Just a wild guess. Well, instead of doing nothing I decided to trash my machine (God forbid). The script /etc/rc.d/rc steps through the runlevels, calling S* scripts located in directories /etc/rc.d/rcN.d/. The S* scripts are just symbolic links to scripts in /etc/init.d/ and after doing an interactive boot, I found out that within runlevel 5 there are two scripts that have something to do with the graphical interface: S20xfs (starts the X Font Server) and S30dm that starts the graphical display manager. So skipping i=20 and i=30 at runlevel 5 within /etc/init.d/rc if the user decides not to start the graphical display, will get us the flexibility desired. Well, I have backed up my data and tomorrow I will be modifying /etc/init.d/rc. Any help before I trash my system, in case I am missing something, will be truly appreciated. (I hope someone come home tomorrow with a couple of beers and beef for a barbecue and rescue me from this out of control curiosity). __ / \\ @ ____@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A. / ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\/ // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___ / _/\__\\//__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] using lilo to customize login
On Sun, 2003-01-19 at 10:47, et wrote: sure you can make a stanza in lilo.conf for that, or you can hit TAB and type lilo 3 with out the quotes for no startx What about the rest of services starting at runlevel 5? Like httpd, network, cups. __ / \\ @ ____@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A. / ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\/ // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___ / _/\__\\//__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] using lilo to customize login
Being that graphical login and text login pertain to different system runlevels, it would be tricky at best - but there is a way to have a selection AFTER you've booted the kernel to allow for a text shell or a graphical shell. Just a wild guess. Remember that I am a newbie. Maybe we can control the start of the graphical interface within the script that start it at the proper run level Just a [y/n] question. can't we? If this is possible, then we have almost the same flexibility. Just a wild guess. __ / \\ @ ____@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A. / ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\/ // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___ / _/\__\\//__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] using lilo to customize login
Maybe we can control the start of the graphical interface within the script that start it at the proper run level Just a [y/n] question. can't we? If this is possible, then we have almost the same flexibility. Just a wild guess. Well, instead of doing nothing I decided to trash my machine (God forbid). The script /etc/rc.d/rc steps through the runlevels, calling S* scripts located in directories /etc/rc.d/rcN.d/. The S* scripts are just symbolic links to scripts in /etc/init.d/ and after doing an interactive boot, I found out that within runlevel 5 there are two scripts that have something to do with the graphical interface: S20xfs (starts the X Font Server) and S30dm that starts the graphical display manager. So skipping i=20 and i=30 at runlevel 5 within /etc/init.d/rc if the user decides not to start the graphical display, will get us the flexibility desired. Well, I have backed up my data and tomorrow I will be modifying /etc/init.d/rc. Any help before I trash my system, in case I am missing something, will be truly appreciated. (I hope someone come home tomorrow with a couple of beers and beef for a barbecue and rescue me from this out of control curiosity). __ / \\ @ ____@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A. / ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\/ // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___ / _/\__\\//__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Getting LILO back after installing Win XP
I've just installed Win XP onto my C: drive using NTFS. My second drive is partitioned into a D: drive with FAT 32 and the remaining 4 gigs has Mandrake 7.0. I've reinstalled Win 98 before but obviously the C: drive was then FAT 32. Using the MDK 7.0 boot CD and choosing upgrade I have always got LILO back. I'm a bit worried now that the C: drive is NTFS. If I use the MDK 7.0 boot CD will I damage something? I have never used NTFS before and don't want to mess things up. I unfortunately don't have a MDK boot floppy disk. Please advise. George Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Getting LILO back after installing Win XP
On Wednesday 08 January 2003 12:06 pm, George Baker wrote: I've just installed Win XP onto my C: drive using NTFS. My second drive is partitioned into a D: drive with FAT 32 and the remaining 4 gigs has Mandrake 7.0. I've reinstalled Win 98 before but obviously the C: drive was then FAT 32. Using the MDK 7.0 boot CD and choosing upgrade I have always got LILO back. I'm a bit worried now that the C: drive is NTFS. If I use the MDK 7.0 boot CD will I damage something? I have never used NTFS before and don't want to mess things up. I unfortunately don't have a MDK boot floppy disk. Please advise. George Baker George, if I understand you correctly you haven't booted into MDK yet, but have XP up and running ?. If you're interested, I still have a MDK 7.0 CD around and will be happy to mail the boot.img to you. Then, dd it to a floppy, and you should be in business. Kaj Haulrich Denmark. === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0 Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Getting LILO back after installing Win XP
My understanding is that LILO only writes the MBR of hda. The MBR is not NTFS and it is separate from any partitions. You should be able to safely replace the MBR with LILO. I beleive your concern to be if lilo can pass control to the boot of the NTFS partition. I haven't heard anyone complain about this not working. On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 05:35, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Wednesday 08 January 2003 12:06 pm, George Baker wrote: I've just installed Win XP onto my C: drive using NTFS. My second drive is partitioned into a D: drive with FAT 32 and the remaining 4 gigs has Mandrake 7.0. I've reinstalled Win 98 before but obviously the C: drive was then FAT 32. Using the MDK 7.0 boot CD and choosing upgrade I have always got LILO back. I'm a bit worried now that the C: drive is NTFS. If I use the MDK 7.0 boot CD will I damage something? I have never used NTFS before and don't want to mess things up. I unfortunately don't have a MDK boot floppy disk. Please advise. George Baker George, if I understand you correctly you haven't booted into MDK yet, but have XP up and running ?. If you're interested, I still have a MDK 7.0 CD around and will be happy to mail the boot.img to you. Then, dd it to a floppy, and you should be in business. Kaj Haulrich Denmark. === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0 Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Getting LILO back after installing Win XP
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 23:06, George Baker wrote: I've just installed Win XP onto my C: drive using NTFS. My second drive is partitioned into a D: drive with FAT 32 and the remaining 4 gigs has Mandrake 7.0. I've reinstalled Win 98 before but obviously the C: drive was then FAT 32. Using the MDK 7.0 boot CD and choosing upgrade I have always got LILO back. I'm a bit worried now that the C: drive is NTFS. If I use the MDK 7.0 boot CD will I damage something? I have never used NTFS before and don't want to mess things up. I unfortunately don't have a MDK boot floppy disk. Please advise. George Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] The problem is going to be this: Yes, lilo writes to the MBR of the FIRST drive - in your case the C:\ drive - but the boot (/boot) HAS to live on the FIRST drive. Being that it's already formatted to NTFS, I would assume that you've used all the available space on the FIRST drive for XP - so that might present problems. In a best case with something like this, you could resize the NTFS partition (as long as it's not a dynamic partition) so that you have 30mb of free space - to use for /boot. LILO could then inhabit the MBR and /boot could inhabit the free space, whilst the rest of your linux file systems lives elsewhere - on the SECOND drive or wherever. Without knowing what tools you have at hand, you might be able to download the demo version of PowerQuest's Partition Magic and resize the NTFS partition (if it's not dynamic) enough...I'd suggest other tools, but in reality, none are more suited to that task. If you're in a position to re-plan your installation, you might consider a new scheme. For instance, you could do your initial install on your FIRST drive, setting aside 35mb of space (safety) that is unpartitioned or unformatted, and install XP on the remaining drive space. When installing linux, you could put the LILO and /boot on the FIRST drive and then the / and /home (or whatever) on the SECOND drive. My situation is that I have put mine as such: hd0: lilo /boot (50mb) / (10gb) XP - 27gb VFAT hd1 SWAP - 640mb /tmp - 500mb XP - 38gb VFAT scsi-hd0 /var /home BTW, having the VFAT for XP/Win98 gives me the ability to easily mount/share/read/write files in between the OS's. HTBH! Cheers and Good Luck! Stephen, you don't have to have the /boot partition on the first dive. I have a setup on one of my computers where the first drive has two windblows OS's and thus the mbr on the first drive, hda, whilst two mandrake OS's and a common /boot partition inhabit the second drive, hdb. It has always worked fine. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie-it] LiLo Boot per Mandrake
Il mar, 2002-12-31 alle 08:58, Felice Gaudente ha scritto: L'unica cosa che mi frena dal reinstallare il tutto è che nei precedenti tentativi mi è toccato anche rifare i Win.Forse mi incasino con le partizioni ed i filesystem... Per installazione per windows intendo l'opzione che dà (e non mi funziona) il cd di bootstrap della Mandrake9. Per quanto riguarda la domanda sul LiLo proprio non l'ho vista...starò più attento la prossima.Se faccio fdisk/mbr non rischio di eliminare anche boot.ini ntldr etc.etc.? Grazie ancora x la risposta. Franco Se hai w2000 o xp c'è una procedura particolare per eliminare il contenuto dell'mbr che va eseguita tramite l'utilizzazione del cd di installazione di windows. Se ti interessa te la mando Ciao Sandro -- Dr. Sandro Porrazzini - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Mandrake 9.0 on Pentium III - 733 Mhz Linux User # 203143 Linux Machine # 175781
Re: [newbie-it] LiLo Boot per Mandrake
mi interessa eccome..vale sia per win2000 che per xp? grazie Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Sandro Porrazzini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie_mandrake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie-it] LiLo Boot per Mandrake Date: 31 Dec 2002 09:58:43 +0100 Il mar, 2002-12-31 alle 08:58, Felice Gaudente ha scritto: L'unica cosa che mi frena dal reinstallare il tutto è che nei precedenti tentativi mi è toccato anche rifare i Win.Forse mi incasino con le partizioni ed i filesystem... Per installazione per windows intendo l'opzione che dà (e non mi funziona) il cd di bootstrap della Mandrake9. Per quanto riguarda la domanda sul LiLo proprio non l'ho vista...starò più attento la prossima.Se faccio fdisk/mbr non rischio di eliminare anche boot.ini ntldr etc.etc.? Grazie ancora x la risposta. Franco Se hai w2000 o xp c'è una procedura particolare per eliminare il contenuto dell'mbr che va eseguita tramite l'utilizzazione del cd di installazione di windows. Se ti interessa te la mando Ciao Sandro -- Dr. Sandro Porrazzini - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Mandrake 9.0 on Pentium III - 733 Mhz Linux User # 203143 Linux Machine # 175781 _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virusxAPID=42PS=47575PI=7324DI=7474SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsgHL=1216hotmailtaglines_virusprotection_3mf
Re: [newbie-it] LiLo Boot per Mandrake
Il mar, 2002-12-31 alle 10:21, Felice Gaudente ha scritto: mi interessa eccome..vale sia per win2000 che per xp? grazie Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Si vale sia per xp che per il 2000 Eccotelo, copiaincolato: RIPRISTINO DEL BOOT LOADER DI WIN2000 Se il computer supporta l'avvio da cd-rom, avviare windows da cd-rom. Quando si raggiunge una schermata come questa: * Installazione di Windows 2000 Professional Installazione Questa fase dell'installazione del sistema operativo Microsoft (R) Windows 2000 prepara Windows 2000 (TM) per l'esecuzione sul computer. Per installare Windows 2000 premere INVIO Per ripristinare un'installazione di Windows 2000, premere R Per uscire dal programma di installazione senza installare premere F3 Premere quindi R per ripristinare l'installazione. La schermata sauccessiva offre la scelta tra l'uso della consolle di ripristino (premere C) o l'uso del processo di ripristino di emergenza (premere R). Entrambi i metodi dovrebbero funzionare. Per usare la console di ripristino (consigliata) bisogna fornire la password di amministratore. Al prompt digitare fixboot per ripristinare il settore di avvio, quindi digitare exit per riavviareil computer. Per utilizzare, invece, il ripristino di emergenza, premere M (ripristino manuale) e deselezionare tutte le opzioni tranne la terza, riguardante il controllo del settore di avvio. Seguire tutte le istruzioni mostrate sullo schermo per completare il ripristino. Note Questo processo copia il settore di avvio attuale nel file Bootsect.dos, e lo sostituisce con il settore di avvio di Windows 2000 END - Ciao Sandro -- Dr. Sandro Porrazzini - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Mandrake 9.0 on Pentium III - 733 Mhz Linux User # 203143 Linux Machine # 175781
[newbie-it] LiLo Boot per Mandrake
Ciao a tutti, mi piacerebbe fare parte della vostra tribù...ma ho trovato qualche difficoltà. Ho un pc da un'annetto e sopra ci ho installato win2000pro,winxp e, visto che ho un'hard disk bello capiente (60Gb) e la necessità di imparare ad usare Linux anche x lavoro oltre che x gusto personale.La macchina è un'intel pentium 3 500Mhz con 196 MB ram. Ho acquistato una rivista che aveva la versione Mandrake9 (3cd)incorporata e quindi ho provato ad installarla. Leggendo la documentazione ho provato a lanciare l'installazione per Windows, ma sul cd non si trovava l'eseguibile. Quindi ho eseguito l'installazione standard incrociando le dita.. Il setup è andato abbastanza bene anche se poi ho riscontrato diversi problemi, ma andiamo per ordine. Al termine dell'installazione sono riuscito a visualizzare il LiLo boot e quindi a selezionare correttamente il sistema operativo che volevo (anche se mi chiedo che vuol dire NT2 e NT3...), beh speravo che ci fosse il modo di partire con il floppy e che Mandrake mi desse la possibilità di scegliere dove installare il LiLo. Posso ancora fare qualcosa senza reinstallare per l'ennesima volta? Purtroppo ho diversi nodi da sciogliere, tipo il mouse con la rotellina che non viene visto nella KDE, le periferiche USB che danno una caterva di errori all'avvio..Spero che qualcuno abbia la pazienza di aiutare questo disperato. Vi ringrazio anticipatamente ed aspetto fiducioso. Franco _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virusxAPID=42PS=47575PI=7324DI=7474SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsgHL=1216hotmailtaglines_virusprotection_3mf
Re: [newbie-it] LiLo Boot per Mandrake
Alle 18:31, lunedì 30 dicembre 2002, Felice Gaudente ha scritto: Ciao a tutti, mi piacerebbe fare parte della vostra tribù...ma ho trovato qualche difficoltà. Ho un pc da un'annetto e sopra ci ho installato win2000pro,winxp e, visto che ho un'hard disk bello capiente (60Gb) e la necessità di imparare ad usare Linux anche x lavoro oltre che x gusto personale.La macchina è un'intel pentium 3 500Mhz con 196 MB ram. Ho acquistato una rivista che aveva la versione Mandrake9 (3cd)incorporata e quindi ho provato ad installarla. Leggendo la documentazione ho provato a lanciare l'installazione per Windows, ma sul cd non si trovava l'eseguibile. Quindi ho eseguito l'installazione standard incrociando le dita.. Il setup è andato abbastanza bene anche se poi ho riscontrato diversi problemi, ma andiamo per ordine. Al termine dell'installazione sono riuscito a visualizzare il LiLo boot e quindi a selezionare correttamente il sistema operativo che volevo (anche se mi chiedo che vuol dire NT2 e NT3...), beh speravo che ci fosse il modo di partire con il floppy e che Mandrake mi desse la possibilità di scegliere dove installare il LiLo. Posso ancora fare qualcosa senza reinstallare per l'ennesima volta? Purtroppo ho diversi nodi da sciogliere, tipo il mouse con la rotellina che non viene visto nella KDE, le periferiche USB che danno una caterva di errori all'avvio..Spero che qualcuno abbia la pazienza di aiutare questo disperato. Vi ringrazio anticipatamente ed aspetto fiducioso. Franco Mh... Mi sembri lo slalomista che si porta tutti i paletti al traguardo... Andiamo con ordine: - Non mi è chiaro cosa intendi per installazione per Windows: per installare, ti basta impostare il cdrom come primo device-boot; riavvii, infili il primo cd e sei in carrozzaAltrimenti puoi copiare l'immagine di boot su un floppy qualsiasi e ripetere la procedura con il floppy inserito (per preparare il floppy ti rimando alle istruzioni presenti sul cd) - Per quanto riguarda LILO, se fossi stato attento in sede di installazione avresti letto la schermata in cui ti si chiede se intendi scrivere LILO sul MBR; a quel punto, se questo non era il tuo intendimento, bastava rispondere no, poichè comunque alla fine ti veniva data la possibilità di fare il floppy di emergenza, che può essere utilizzato anche come chiave per accedere al SO. Togliere LILO comunque è semplicissimo: basta, da win o da lin, vedi un po' tu, dare un fdisk /mbr comando che cancella appunto il settore dove è posizionato il bootloader. Fallo solo dopo aver verificato di avere un floppy di emergenza funzionante... - NT2 e NT3 presumo siano le partizioni dove hai i due win: scegliendo uno dei due dovresti accedere ai sistemi di zio Bill... - Mouse con rotellina : davvero molto strano...è la prima volta che sento di una mdk che fallisce il riconoscimento del topo...vai in /etc/XF86config-4 copiaincolla la sezione del mouse che ci si dà un'occhiata... - USB: passo... In conclusione, sono dell'opinione che qualcosa non sia andato per il verso giusto in sede di installazione...Se fossi in te perderei quell'altra mezz'ora per la reinstallazione completa... Vale. -- - -- Fabio Manunza -- ## n° macchina 140545 ## -
Re: [newbie-it] LiLo Boot per Mandrake
L'unica cosa che mi frena dal reinstallare il tutto è che nei precedenti tentativi mi è toccato anche rifare i Win.Forse mi incasino con le partizioni ed i filesystem... Per installazione per windows intendo l'opzione che dà (e non mi funziona) il cd di bootstrap della Mandrake9. Per quanto riguarda la domanda sul LiLo proprio non l'ho vista...starò più attento la prossima.Se faccio fdisk/mbr non rischio di eliminare anche boot.ini ntldr etc.etc.? Grazie ancora x la risposta. Franco From: Fabio Manunza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie-it] LiLo Boot per Mandrake Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 19:41:21 +0100 Alle 18:31, lunedì 30 dicembre 2002, Felice Gaudente ha scritto: Ciao a tutti, mi piacerebbe fare parte della vostra tribù...ma ho trovato qualche difficoltà. Ho un pc da un'annetto e sopra ci ho installato win2000pro,winxp e, visto che ho un'hard disk bello capiente (60Gb) e la necessità di imparare ad usare Linux anche x lavoro oltre che x gusto personale.La macchina è un'intel pentium 3 500Mhz con 196 MB ram. Ho acquistato una rivista che aveva la versione Mandrake9 (3cd)incorporata e quindi ho provato ad installarla. Leggendo la documentazione ho provato a lanciare l'installazione per Windows, ma sul cd non si trovava l'eseguibile. Quindi ho eseguito l'installazione standard incrociando le dita.. Il setup è andato abbastanza bene anche se poi ho riscontrato diversi problemi, ma andiamo per ordine. Al termine dell'installazione sono riuscito a visualizzare il LiLo boot e quindi a selezionare correttamente il sistema operativo che volevo (anche se mi chiedo che vuol dire NT2 e NT3...), beh speravo che ci fosse il modo di partire con il floppy e che Mandrake mi desse la possibilità di scegliere dove installare il LiLo. Posso ancora fare qualcosa senza reinstallare per l'ennesima volta? Purtroppo ho diversi nodi da sciogliere, tipo il mouse con la rotellina che non viene visto nella KDE, le periferiche USB che danno una caterva di errori all'avvio..Spero che qualcuno abbia la pazienza di aiutare questo disperato. Vi ringrazio anticipatamente ed aspetto fiducioso. Franco Mh... Mi sembri lo slalomista che si porta tutti i paletti al traguardo... Andiamo con ordine: - Non mi è chiaro cosa intendi per installazione per Windows: per installare, ti basta impostare il cdrom come primo device-boot; riavvii, infili il primo cd e sei in carrozzaAltrimenti puoi copiare l'immagine di boot su un floppy qualsiasi e ripetere la procedura con il floppy inserito (per preparare il floppy ti rimando alle istruzioni presenti sul cd) - Per quanto riguarda LILO, se fossi stato attento in sede di installazione avresti letto la schermata in cui ti si chiede se intendi scrivere LILO sul MBR; a quel punto, se questo non era il tuo intendimento, bastava rispondere no, poichè comunque alla fine ti veniva data la possibilità di fare il floppy di emergenza, che può essere utilizzato anche come chiave per accedere al SO. Togliere LILO comunque è semplicissimo: basta, da win o da lin, vedi un po' tu, dare un fdisk /mbr comando che cancella appunto il settore dove è posizionato il bootloader. Fallo solo dopo aver verificato di avere un floppy di emergenza funzionante... - NT2 e NT3 presumo siano le partizioni dove hai i due win: scegliendo uno dei due dovresti accedere ai sistemi di zio Bill... - Mouse con rotellina : davvero molto strano...è la prima volta che sento di una mdk che fallisce il riconoscimento del topo...vai in /etc/XF86config-4 copiaincolla la sezione del mouse che ci si dà un'occhiata... - USB: passo... In conclusione, sono dell'opinione che qualcosa non sia andato per il verso giusto in sede di installazione...Se fossi in te perderei quell'altra mezz'ora per la reinstallazione completa... Vale. -- - -- Fabio Manunza -- ## n° macchina 140545 ## - _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
[newbie] CDROM Lilo entry?
I noticed that there's a 'Boot from floppy' entry in lilo. Is there a way to add a 'Boot from CD' entry? I have an old laptop that can't boot from a CD. Barry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie-it] Lilo
Scusate, ma come si fa ad eliminare Lilo? e se non si ha più linux? Grazie
Re: [newbie-it] Lilo
Il ven, 2002-12-13 alle 01:04, Tommy3 ha scritto: Scusate, ma come si fa ad eliminare Lilo? e se non si ha più linux? Grazie fdisk /mbr Ciao Sandro -- Dr. Sandro Porrazzini - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Mandrake 9.0 on Pentium III - 733 Mhz Linux User # 203143 Linux Machine # 175781
[newbie-it] LILO Boot
Ciao, ho cercato come molti di voi mi hanno detto di inserire le stringhe in /etc/lilo.conf per proporre il caricamento di w2k prof //linea di intestazione che non ricordo other = /dev/hdb1 table = /dev/hdb la voce viene aggiunta. Quando cerco di lanciarla, però ho un errore codice 0x01. E' di qualche aiuto come descrizione della situazione? C'è qualcuno che pensa di sapere cosa ho sbagliato? W2K è su un altro HD primary slave, con partizione unica. Grazie! Enrico _ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plusref=lmtplus
Re: [newbie-it] LiLo
Alle 23:26, giovedì 21 novembre 2002, Emiliano La Licata ha scritto: Alle 22:35, giovedì 21 novembre 2002, Daniele Micci ha scritto: mandarmi la configuarazione del suo LiLO così ricostruisco la sezione mancante? Ciao Grazie! Anche a Fabio. Daniele
[newbie-it] LiLo
Ciao, ho per errore rimosso una delle voci del menù di avvio di LiLo... qualcuno può, per cortesia, mandarmi la configuarazione del suo LiLO così ricostruisco la sezione mancante? GRAZIE! Daniele
[newbie] RE: lilo install
That's a possibility, John. I'll wait until Terry comes back on line later today, to see if he has worked out how to correct things. If he can't sort it I'll try your way - it does sound more promising. Why didn't I think of that? Anne -- Original Message -- Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 15:25:10 + From: John Richard Smith bagsofchoice Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: lilo install Anne, Thinking back on it , I may of removed lilo altergether with a w98 bootup disc from the A: prompt , fdisk mbr, before attemting to replace it with Mandrake CD1 f1 -rescue etc. It's just a thought . John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie-it] Lilo e win
nicola wrote: l'installazione) oppure usando il cd di installazione, digitando la parola rescue2 e seguendo le procedure per montare il fs di root, in modo da poter il 2 era la seconda coppia di virgolette, immagino :-) Piu` precisamente: - avvii da CD - premi subito F1 - al promt lilo: rispondi rescue - ti assicuri (basta dare mount senza opzioni/argomenti) che la partizione linux sia montata in una dir (es. /pippo) - altrimenti la monti - cambi partizione root (es. chroot /pippo) - lanci lilo ciao, Andrea
[newbie-it] Lilo e win
salve come faccio a rimettere lilo dopo che win se lo e' mangiato? Gigi -- Not all who wander are lost (Tolkien) Luigi De Pascale: Indirizzo: Dipartimento di Matematica Applicata U.Dini Via Bonanno Pisano 25/B, 56126 Pisa, ITALY Tel.: +39/050/844745 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie-it] Lilo e win
Come root digita lilo in un qualunque terminale, così facendo non dovrebbe far altro che riscrivere il contenuto del file /etc/lilo.conf nel Master Boot Record. Per sicurezza man lilo Ciao, Germano Il 15:31, mercoledì 13 marzo 2002, hai scritto: salve come faccio a rimettere lilo dopo che win se lo e' mangiato? Gigi
Re: [newbie-it] lilo
Fabio Manunza wrote: Alle 19:22, martedì 5 marzo 2002, hai scritto: salve a tutti sul mio pc avevo sia win 2000 che mandrake 8.0 ho cancellato tutto per reistallare i due sistemi operativi ma alla partenza continua a partirmi lilo, come fare per eliminarlo? Da DOS un buon vecchio fdisk /mbr e fai piazza pulita.. da linux (es. parti con CD, premi F1, entri linux rescue, oppure parti da floppy e entri come linux rescue) # lilo -u e fai piazza pulita. ciao, andrea
[newbie-it] lilo
salve a tutti sul mio pc avevo sia win 2000 che mandrake 8.0 ho cancellato tutto per reistallare i due sistemi operativi ma alla partenza continua a partirmi lilo, come fare per eliminarlo? se gli dico di partire da floppy mi da errore 0x80 sia con disco linux che win autopartenti. se dico al bios di partire con il cd quello di linux parte quello win98 no. perche e lilo che non mi fa partire win 98 che prima partiva? cia caspar
Re: [newbie-it] lilo
Alle 19:22, martedì 5 marzo 2002, hai scritto: salve a tutti sul mio pc avevo sia win 2000 che mandrake 8.0 ho cancellato tutto per reistallare i due sistemi operativi ma alla partenza continua a partirmi lilo, come fare per eliminarlo? Da DOS un buon vecchio fdisk /mbr e fai piazza pulita.. -- - -- Fabio Manunza -- ## n° macchina 140545 ## -
Re: [newbie] Edit lilo
On Saturday 15 December 2001 04:41, you wrote: I could use some help with two problems: 1.) How do I edit lilo.conf? I can find it in a console, but how do I open it and edit or change it? And, 2.) Is there an inherent problem with using a boo loader such as Lilo with Windows XP. Would it be better to use a boot floppy with my other operating system being XP? Thanks, Bob Sprowls vi /etc/lilo.conf and remember to run lilo after the chanes as for xp there is plenty of stuff on lilo and win on the net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Edit lilo
On Friday 14 December 2001 23:41, Robert L Sprowls wrote: I could use some help with two problems: 1.) How do I edit lilo.conf? I can find it in a console, try locate lilo.conf it's at /etc/lilo.conf but how do I open it and edit or change it? vi lilo.conf And, 2.) Is there an inherent problem with using a boo loader such as Lilo with Windows XP. Would it be better to use a boot floppy with my other operating system being XP? The best alternative is to trash windows xp ;-). I don't use windows xp, perhaps there is someone else? -- -Gerald Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Edit lilo
I could use some help with two problems: 1.) How do I edit lilo.conf? I can find it in a console, but how do I open it and edit or change it? And, 2.) Is there an inherent problem with using a boo loader such as Lilo with Windows XP. Would it be better to use a boot floppy with my other operating system being XP? Thanks, Bob Sprowls Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Edit lilo
don't know about your XP problem, but I imagine lilo or grub would work fine. as for editing lilo, you just open /etc/lilo.conf in an editor and edit away.. you could try: mcedit /etc/lilo.conf or pico /etc/lilo.conf you could even use vi, but unless you know it, don't even try. just remember that to update lilo afterwards, type: lilo at the prompt and it will tell you of any syntax errors and write the changes to the mbr. good luck. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert L Sprowls Sent: Saturday, 15 December 2001 12:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Edit lilo I could use some help with two problems: 1.) How do I edit lilo.conf? I can find it in a console, but how do I open it and edit or change it? And, 2.) Is there an inherent problem with using a boo loader such as Lilo with Windows XP. Would it be better to use a boot floppy with my other operating system being XP? Thanks, Bob Sprowls Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Edit lilo
You might want to read the three most recent issues of Lockergnome's Penguin Shell (subscribe at Lockergnome.com) , they've been about editing LILO. Hope it helps, Curt On Friday 14 December 2001 09:41 pm, you wrote: I could use some help with two problems: 1.) How do I edit lilo.conf? I can find it in a console, but how do I open it and edit or change it? And, 2.) Is there an inherent problem with using a boo loader such as Lilo with Windows XP. Would it be better to use a boot floppy with my other operating system being XP? Thanks, Bob Sprowls Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie-it] lilo
Grazie, è già qualcosa! Magari smanettando un po'... ENx Non so se, e come si possa cambiare l'immagine, però ti posso dire che aggiungendo append = nologo a /etc/lilo.conf nella sezione relativa a Linux l'immagine in questione non appare più. Ciao, Beppe. - Original Message - From: ENx [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [newbie-it] lilo : No, veramente non mi riferivo ad Aurora!! Quando ho installato lilo gli : ho detto di visualizzare la schermata dove si selezionano i sistemi : operativi in 1024x768. Come sfondo usa un'immagine viola, se non ricordo : male. Mi piacerebbe cambiarla, comunque grazie lo stesso per l'aiuto!! : ENx : : Fabio Manunza wrote: : : Ciao, penso tu ti riferisca ad Aurora, che ti informa sui progressi di : connessione del sistema. : Vai sul Mandrake Control Center, sezione boot. Da li puoi scegliere il : front-end grafico che più ti aggrada. : Fabio : - Original Message - : From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 9:04 AM : Subject: [newbie-it] lilo : : : qualcuno saprebbe dirmi se si puo` e come si fa a cambiare l'immagine : di sfondo di lilo quando parte in modalita` grafica? : : Grazie ENx : : : : -- : Prendi GRATIS l'email universale che... risparmia: http://www.email.it/f : : Studi e lavori? Con LOL ti prepari da casa con l'assistenza on- line di un : docente. : : Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=59d=10-12 : : : : : -- Prendi GRATIS l'email universale che... risparmia: http://www.email.it/f Studi e lavori? Con LOL ti prepari da casa con lassistenza on-line di un docente. Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=59d=11-12
[newbie-it] lilo
qualcuno saprebbe dirmi se si puo` e come si fa a cambiare l'immagine di sfondo di lilo quando parte in modalita` grafica? Grazie ENx -- Prendi GRATIS l'email universale che... risparmia: http://www.email.it/f Studi e lavori? Con LOL ti prepari da casa con lassistenza on-line di un docente. Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=59d=10-12
Re: [newbie-it] lilo
Ciao, penso tu ti riferisca ad Aurora, che ti informa sui progressi di connessione del sistema. Vai sul Mandrake Control Center, sezione boot. Da li puoi scegliere il front-end grafico che più ti aggrada. Fabio - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 9:04 AM Subject: [newbie-it] lilo qualcuno saprebbe dirmi se si puo` e come si fa a cambiare l'immagine di sfondo di lilo quando parte in modalita` grafica? Grazie ENx -- Prendi GRATIS l'email universale che... risparmia: http://www.email.it/f Studi e lavori? Con LOL ti prepari da casa con l'assistenza on-line di un docente. Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=59d=10-12
[newbie] Disabling lilo
Where do I go to temporarily disable lilo? I think that it's interfering with my attempt to reinstall WinNT. The install hangs up on the blue install screen. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Disabling lilo
In reply to Rich's words, written Wed, 14 Nov 2001 10:49:38 -0500 Where do I go to temporarily disable lilo? I think that it's interfering with my attempt to reinstall WinNT. The install hangs up on the blue install screen. Make sure you have a working linux boot diskette. Boot MessyDOS. Run fdisk /mbr Install NT (won't ask why) Boot from the Linux bootdisk. Find out how to add the boot of NT to Lilo Edit /etc/lilo.conf run lilo -v Ready. Paul -- Choosing a goal and sticking to it changes everything. -Scott Reed http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.6.3 claws Open Source, Open Minds. Linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LOLI LILO (long live lilo)
On Sun, 4 Nov 2001 19:40, _nasturtium wrote: It works and you know it... The NT Loaded stopped Linux from booting and you know it. If it doesn't work then remake it. I've tried it and it works perfectly on a Pentium II 350... And don't forget I happen to be an Internet Security expert (just ask civileme) who can read iptables even in Chinese... This expert is the one that deleted my ENTIRE extended partition once by accident. I'm surprised that such an NT-fanatic could join this list. I is very good as it is now possible to access my primary operating system (Win '98) in one step rather than two. But the _real_ operating system (Linux) could not be accessed at all thanks to the NT loader. How things suddenly stuff up next dayis beyond me but there was probably a bit of helpfrom you. Your comments are unhelpful and so are you turning up on this list. I shall not respond to any more emails from you. Regards, _nasturtium - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] LOLI LILO (long live lilo) It can and _will_ cause you great harm. The next day, LILO got up to LIL- and wouldn't boot. It makes configuring LILO more difficult. It is hacky and dangerous. Causes more trouble than good. It is therefore stupid. - pesarif - Original Message - From: _nasturtium [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 8:42 PM Subject: [newbie] LOLI LILO (long live lilo) Hello, LILO can be placed in the Windows 2000 Boot menu! Using instructions at www.ntcompatible.com/faq2.shtml, (not reproduced here - they are designed with SuSE linux in mind which would not be appropraite on this list!), you can add it - and takes only 512bytes. [at a terminal] lilo -s /mnt/c/linux.bin [in boot.ini add this line] C:\LINUX.BIN=Mandrake Linux 8.0 I have tried it with linux mandrake 8.0 and it works perfectly. Hope it's useful, _nasturtium --- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re[2]: [newbie] LOLI LILO (long live lilo)
On Mon, 5 Nov 2001 02:35, Dan Butler wrote: If LILO is so damn great, why is GRUB so much easier to work with? Does a better job and is easier to manage. I believe in working smarter, not harder. Thus, I have to agree that LILO can be improved. I am sticking with Grub. And I work in the computer industry also, for 25 years now. Dan J Actually I believe in LILO. More people have it. I know how to configure it. GRUB probably is better but I'd have to learn it first. I hate NTLDR. - pesarif Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LOLI LILO (long live lilo)
It can and _will_ cause you great harm. The next day, LILO got up to LIL- and wouldn't boot. It makes configuring LILO more difficult. It is hacky and dangerous. Causes more trouble than good. It is therefore stupid. - pesarif - Original Message - From: _nasturtium [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 8:42 PM Subject: [newbie] LOLI LILO (long live lilo) Hello, LILO can be placed in the Windows 2000 Boot menu! Using instructions at www.ntcompatible.com/faq2.shtml, (not reproduced here - they are designed with SuSE linux in mind which would not be appropraite on this list!), you can add it - and takes only 512bytes. [at a terminal] lilo -s /mnt/c/linux.bin [in boot.ini add this line] C:\LINUX.BIN=Mandrake Linux 8.0 I have tried it with linux mandrake 8.0 and it works perfectly. Hope it's useful, _nasturtium Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LOLI LILO (long live lilo)
It works and you know it... If it doesn't work then remake it. I've tried it and it works perfectly on a Pentium II 350... And don't forget I happen to be an Internet Security expert (just ask civileme) who can read iptables even in Chinese... I is very good as it is now possible to access my primary operating system (Win '98) in one step rather than two. How things suddenly stuff up next dayis beyond me but there was probably a bit of helpfrom you. Regards, _nasturtium - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] LOLI LILO (long live lilo) It can and _will_ cause you great harm. The next day, LILO got up to LIL- and wouldn't boot. It makes configuring LILO more difficult. It is hacky and dangerous. Causes more trouble than good. It is therefore stupid. - pesarif - Original Message - From: _nasturtium [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 8:42 PM Subject: [newbie] LOLI LILO (long live lilo) Hello, LILO can be placed in the Windows 2000 Boot menu! Using instructions at www.ntcompatible.com/faq2.shtml, (not reproduced here - they are designed with SuSE linux in mind which would not be appropraite on this list!), you can add it - and takes only 512bytes. [at a terminal] lilo -s /mnt/c/linux.bin [in boot.ini add this line] C:\LINUX.BIN=Mandrake Linux 8.0 I have tried it with linux mandrake 8.0 and it works perfectly. Hope it's useful, _nasturtium Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] LOLI LILO (long live lilo)
Sunday, November 04, 2001, 9:41:46 AM, you wrote: pbc It can and _will_ cause you great harm. pbc The next day, LILO got up to LIL- and wouldn't boot. pbc It makes configuring LILO more difficult. pbc It is hacky and dangerous. pbc Causes more trouble than good. pbc It is therefore stupid. pbc - pesarif I dont agree, lilo works just fine. But you have to be aware of what you are doing, end believe it or not it is MS's fault again when it does not work. Things are managed in a way (in a stupid way) so that MS OS's can boot, and it is normal that stupidity confuses lilo... hdc = 0x80 when I have hda. Nonsense. Onur Kucuk _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] LOLI LILO (long live lilo)
Hello, LILO can be placed in the Windows 2000 Boot menu! Using instructions at www.ntcompatible.com/faq2.shtml, (not reproduced here - they are designed with SuSE linux in mind which would not be appropraite on this list!), you can add it - and takes only 512bytes. [at a terminal] lilo -s /mnt/c/linux.bin [in boot.ini add this line] C:\LINUX.BIN="Mandrake Linux 8.0" I have tried it with linux mandrake 8.0 and it works perfectly. Hope it's useful, _nasturtium
Re: [newbie] help~ lilo is gone~
In reply to Valerie Cheng's words, written Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:03:44 -0400 Hi Valerie, /boot is EMPTY?? Then somehow you managed to delete everything in there as root user. I am afraid you have to reinstall unless you have a backup. /boot contains all the kernels and such. But wait a few, perhaps another person knows something better. Paul Hi, Please help me... My LILO disappeared.. and when I run lilo to install it, it says that /boot/boot.b is missing... I checked is /boot and it's empty... what do I do??? *sniff sniff* Any help is appreciated~ Valerie -- This message has been ROT-13 encrypted twice for higher security. http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.6.3 Open Source, Open Minds. Linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] help~ lilo is gone~
On Friday 19 October 2001 06:20 pm, you were observed remarking: In reply to Valerie Cheng's words, written Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:03:44 -0400 Hi Valerie, /boot is EMPTY?? Then somehow you managed to delete everything in there as root user. I am afraid you have to reinstall unless you have a backup. /boot contains all the kernels and such. But wait a few, perhaps another person knows something better. Paul Hi, Please help me... My LILO disappeared.. and when I run lilo to install it, it says that /boot/boot.b is missing... I checked is /boot and it's empty... what do I do??? *sniff sniff* Any help is appreciated~ Valerie Val: My favourite disaster recovery technique is to insert cd1 of 8.1 and choose 'expert' and 'upgrade'...that way all your mail and stuff stays there -- -michael- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] help~ lilo is gone~
ok.. The situation was.. My friend found the iso of WinXP.. So I tried installing that.. And I guess WinXP killed lilo.. But I kinda expected that so I had my Linux boot disk ready to use that to come back to linux and run lilo to install it back... And that's what I did... and it acted wierd when it started up and I somehow got linux booted but X can't start.. but I ran lilo anyways.. then that's when it told me it can't find boot.b... so I checked /boot/ and it's *really* empty (took me a while to really believe that it's empty.. and I dunno if it got killed by WinXP)... so I ran upgrade from the Mandrake cd... And it still didn't work. then I ran install w/o formating the / directory... and it still works.. but I'm able to use the boot floppy to get into linux and able start X.. But right now, the only files in my /boot directory are kernel.h and message. And I still can't install lilo since boot.b is missing... So there's no way to install the files for /boot? I'm using MDK 8.0... technically, if I didn't change anything, I could copy my boot files from my laptop (also MDK 8.0) to my desktop? Valerie Onur Kucuk wrote: Hi Valerie, How could you boot, with the boot empty ? Or didnt you boot yet? If you could boot, then most probably you have a partition containing your boot data, but it is not mounted now. Type fdisk -l and compare it with /etc/fstab entries, especially with the line containing /boot . Check if there is a line missing, a partition not mounted etc. And also, if you dont want re-install your system, if you can give us the name which version you have, and if you did not change much in /boot , a copy+paste from a friend would be fine I guess. If it is MDK 8.1 I can send you my /boot/* Onur Kucuk michael wrote: Val: My favourite disaster recovery technique is to insert cd1 of 8.1 and choose 'expert' and 'upgrade'...that way all your mail and stuff stays there Paul wrote: In reply to Valerie Cheng's words, written Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:03:44 -0400 Hi Valerie, /boot is EMPTY?? Then somehow you managed to delete everything in there as root user. I am afraid you have to reinstall unless you have a backup. /boot contains all the kernels and such. But wait a few, perhaps another person knows something better. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] help~ lilo is gone~
Thanks everyone for helping me out. :) My lilo is back alive. :) (and I'm never gonna touch ms windows again...) Valerie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] help~ lilo is gone~
Hi, Please help me... My LILO disappeared.. and when I run lilo to install it, it says that /boot/boot.b is missing... I checked is /boot and it's empty... what do I do??? *sniff sniff* Any help is appreciated~ Valerie Hi Valerie, How could you boot, with the boot empty ? Or didnt you boot yet? If you could boot, then most probably you have a partition containing your boot data, but it is not mounted now. Type fdisk -l and compare it with /etc/fstab entries, especially with the line containing /boot . Check if there is a line missing, a partition not mounted etc. And also, if you dont want re-install your system, if you can give us the name which version you have, and if you did not change much in /boot , a copy+paste from a friend would be fine I guess. If it is MDK 8.1 I can send you my /boot/* Onur Kucuk _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] help~ lilo is gone~
Hi, Please help me... My LILO disappeared.. and when I run lilo to install it, it says that /boot/boot.b is missing... I checked is /boot and it's empty... what do I do??? *sniff sniff* Any help is appreciated~ Valerie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] help~ lilo is gone~
What you can do is to put in your cd1 and reinstall the lilo.rpm with the --force command rpm -Uvh --force lilo-21.7.5-1mdk.i586.rpm (or whatever version you are using) This will install /boot/boot.b /boot/chain.b etc into the boot directory. You may also need to install the kernel again if there is no vmliunuz or initrd.img in the boot directory. On Friday 19 October 2001 03:54 pm, you wrote: ok.. The situation was.. My friend found the iso of WinXP.. So I tried installing that.. And I guess WinXP killed lilo.. But I kinda expected that so I had my Linux boot disk ready to use that to come back to linux and run lilo to install it back... And that's what I did... and it acted wierd when it started up and I somehow got linux booted but X can't start.. but I ran lilo anyways.. then that's when it told me it can't find boot.b... so I checked /boot/ and it's *really* empty (took me a while to really believe that it's empty.. and I dunno if it got killed by WinXP)... so I ran upgrade from the Mandrake cd... And it still didn't work. then I ran install w/o formating the / directory... and it still works.. but I'm able to use the boot floppy to get into linux and able start X.. But right now, the only files in my /boot directory are kernel.h and message. And I still can't install lilo since boot.b is missing... So there's no way to install the files for /boot? I'm using MDK 8.0... technically, if I didn't change anything, I could copy my boot files from my laptop (also MDK 8.0) to my desktop? Valerie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Chose LiLO Graphic mode on boot - it hangs, sort of.
On Monday 01 October 2001 20:34, Bradley D. Thornton wrote: during the last stage of installation I chose Lilo graphics mode on boot and the system appears to hang saying, Starting X Font Server. I can ssh in just fine but even when I kill xfs it remains. I have no virtual consoles or anything. I chose run-level three so I could startx manually only when I wanted to use the machine in X. How do I get it back to text mode on boot and then ultimately end up at a login prompt? Mandrake 8.0/x86. I had the same thing happen a while back - I had updated my bios and the graphics setting had been changed. Once I changed that it completed installation (hehe... thats after I tried installing 7 times!). Maybe your bios settings need tweaking?? skinky -- Help Microsoft stamp out software piracy: give Linux to a friend today... _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] grub/lilo problem
Hi all, I had installed a new Quantum SCSI 36gb harddisk with adapatec scsi card.The partion i made is as below sda1 7gb(fat32) sda2 50mb(ext2) sda3 50mb(ext2) sda5 50mb(ext2) sda6 300mb(swap) sda7 6gb (ext2) sda8 7gb (ext2) sda9 6gb (ext2) sda10 8gb (fat32) I was able to load win98 on sda1 and also i loaded boot magic for booting into different Linux distro's,then i tried to install LM8 ,with /boot on sda2,/home on sda8 and / on sda7.I installed lilo on sda2 ,when i tried to boot into LM8.0 from boot magic option,my screen is filled with 1's and 0's.I also did try GRUB boot loader,but then when i try to boot, it says grub hard disk error.When i tried to install lilo on sda1,i could not even boot from the hard disk.Experts on Lilo and Grub,pls help me to solve this. Thanks Ivan -- Ivan Miranda General Instrument Engineer/IT support Po Box 8746,Doha,Qatar Ph:974-4402524/4402773 Fax:974-4323380 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Graphic LiLo Gone
SInce upgrading to md freq3 my graphical lilo has been replaced with the text one and I can't get it back even through using the mandrake control center. Is there a file that I can tweak to get it back? Nev Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Change lilo/grub default boot - needs to be windoze for now!
Dave Esquer wrote: Hello all, While I'm debugging my Mandrake 8 install, I still need to get some windoze work done and would like the default lilo boot to be windows. I edited the linux.conf file to have the default be windows instead of linux but it still boots me into Mandrake. I'm missing something in the process, is it another file that I need to change because of the Aurora graphical startup? TIA, Dave Daveif you've directly edited the /etc/lilo.conf file and saved the edited version then you also need to, in a console, as root, type: /sbin/lilo to execuite the lilo program which writes the contents of the /etc/lilo.conf file to the lilo bootloader. :) -- Alan
Re: [newbie] Change lilo/grub default boot - needs to be windoze for now!
hmmm... do you think editting the lilo.conf might be a better file to edit (GRIN) there are settings in the control center to set if LILO or GRUB and if you want Aurora On Monday 06 August 2001 16:57, Dave Esquer wrote: Hello all, While I'm debugging my Mandrake 8 install, I still need to get some windoze work done and would like the default lilo boot to be windows. I edited the linux.conf file to have the default be windows instead of linux but it still boots me into Mandrake. I'm missing something in the process, is it another file that I need to change because of the Aurora graphical startup? TIA, Dave
Re: [newbie-it] LILO
Alessandro Rocca wrote: ... Purtroppo in modalità rescue non riesco a dare il comando lilo... quale errore ti da'? perche' forse dopo aver montato il disco potrresti dover dare un chroot. Aehm... effettivamente non ho montato l'hd su quale ho Linux... Controlla prima che non sia gia` stato montato. Il comando mount senza opzioni ne` argomenti elenca i filesystem montati. Con mount /dev/... mi dice che non riesce a trovare in fstab l'hda... Mount ha due modi - semplice. Se quello che vuoi montare e` gia` specificato in /etc/fstab, ti bastera` dire mount /qualcosa. Per esempio in fstab c'e` scritto che /dev/fd0 puo` essere montato su /mnt/floppy, da un utente comune, verificando automaticamente il tipo di formattazione, ... quindi basta dire mount /mnt/floppy. - completo. Per dispositivi non predefiniti. Allora solo root potra` dare un comando in cui si specifica tutto: filesistem, dispositivo, punto di mount, ditritti di accesso, ... Come minimo qualcosa del tipo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy Se tenti un mount semplice di qualcosa di non predefinito in fstab, hai una risposta come ... non riesce a trovare in fstab Quando entri in modalita` rescue il /etc/fstab e` molto scarno. ciao, Andrea
R: R: [newbie-it] LILO
Purtroppo in modalità rescue non riesco a dare il comando lilo... In che senso non riesci a dare il comando lilo? Forse to basta andare nella directory in cui si trova il programma lilo e dare ./.lilo. Luca
Re: [newbie-it] LILO
On Thursday 05 July 2001 17:10, you wrote: Aehm... effettivamente non ho montato l'hd su quale ho Linux... Con mount /dev/... mi dice che non riesce a trovare in fstab l'hda... Che accade? come e' visto il disco o la partzione che vorresti montare? (hda1, hda2 ecc.) che comando dai? cioe' probabilmente dovresti entrare con un floppy o in modalita rescue montare la tua partizione linux con qualcosa come mount /dev/hda_numero partizione /mnt/disk (o altra directory di tua scelta) chroot /mnt/disk e poi dare il comando lilo (man lilo per eventuali opzioni) bye -- Devil Inside Experiment - C'era un bambino che odiava la polizia www.acidlife.com/~freefred Davide Banda Partial Arts [2000] - http://62.149.147.100/~freefred/ ICQ uin 5887365 - PGP key available on keyservers
Re: R: [newbie-it] LILO
Secondary Master? C'è modo di utilizzarlo su un comp diverso da quello su cui è stato creato? HELP!!! credo proprio di no, perche' il floppy di boot e' legato alla tabella di partizioni del sistema su cui e' stato creato (tantoc he andrebbe aggiornato ad ogni variazione della tabella stessa) ciao Alessandro
Re: R: [newbie-it] LILO
From: Andrea Celli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: R: [newbie-it] LILO Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 14:23:47 +0200 Ho riguardarto meglio. C'e` un'apposita opzione lilo -r per ripristinare la situazione precedente. Purtroppo in modalità rescue non riesco a dare il comando lilo... Ho provato anche a creare un floppy di avvio col software per win presente sul cd di boot di mandrake 8 ma non ho ottenuto alcun risultato, dato che quando devo creare l'immagine su dischetto, selezionando un'immagine da CD mi da errore... Chiedo un ulteriore aiuto: qualche anima pia potrebbe inviarmi in privato il contenuto di un floppy di avvio, tramite il quale ottenere il boot da HD Secondary Master? C'è modo di utilizzarlo su un comp diverso da quello su cui è stato creato? HELP!!! Alessandro _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Re: R: [newbie-it] LILO
Andrea Celli wrote: Come posso fare per rimettere LILO al posto suo? Non è una cosa che mi sia mai capitata, ma penso che il comando LILO, lanciato senza alcun flag, vada a riscrivere nell'MBR (che sta per master boot record) le informazioni necessarie, riportate, vado a memoria, nel file /etc/lilo.conf. Tali informazioni sono state sovrascritte daquelle di Windows, che non prevedono altri sistemi operativi. Luca Anch'io non l'ho mai fatto. Pero` farei cosi`: Una volta entrato in modalita` rescue, monterei la partizione Linux (diciamo su /disco) e poi lancerei lilo -C /disco/etc/lilo.conf. Forse occorrera` modificare un po' lilo.conf in modo che l'indirizzo del kernel non sia /boot/..., ma /disco/boot/... Ho riguardarto meglio. C'e` un'apposita opzione lilo -r per ripristinare la situazione precedente. ciao, andrea
Re: [newbie] Editing Lilo boot menu
Thanks to everyone that helped. After going to a prompt and running LILO, my boot menu updated just nicely. Thanks again! On Wednesday 13 June 2001 10:52, you wrote: Folks, I'm having trouble removing old entries in my LILO boot menu. I went through lilo.conf and manually removed the entries, but they still remain when I boot the machine up. Anywhere else I need to look? -- Terry Sheltra PC Technician / Asst. Network Administrator University of Virginia School of Architecture (434) 982-3047 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Registered Linux User #218330
[newbie] Editing Lilo boot menu
Folks, I'm having trouble removing old entries in my LILO boot menu. I went through lilo.conf and manually removed the entries, but they still remain when I boot the machine up. Anywhere else I need to look? -- Terry Sheltra PC Technician / Asst. Network Administrator University of Virginia School of Architecture (434) 982-3047 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Registered Linux User #218330
Re: [newbie] Editing Lilo boot menu
On Wednesday 13 June 2001 15:52, Terry wrote: Folks, I'm having trouble removing old entries in my LILO boot menu. I went through lilo.conf and manually removed the entries, but they still remain when I boot the machine up. Anywhere else I need to look? After editing /etc/lilo.conf you incorporate your changes by running /sbin/lilo as root. -- Linux Mandrake release 8.0 (Traktopel) for i586 Linux 2.4.3-20mdk-win4lin-pnr, KDE: 2.1.2, Qt: 2.3.0 Uptime 21 hours 56 minutes
[newbie-it] Lilo al posto di Grub
Per eliminare grub ed evitare casini le alternative sono le seguenti : installare lilo e questo automaticamente elimina grub ? Da prompt di dos : Fdisk/MBR ? Notare bene che ho winme e quindi non posso fare il boot da dos, ma solo da disco di ripristino funziona ugualmente anche su ME ? Grazie Pier Antonio
[newbie] lost lilo
Hi folks, I just upgraded to Mandrake 8.0 from 7.2. I can no longer dual boot between linux and Win 98. No lilo. How do I get the lilo back? Thanks. Marshall
Re: [newbie] lost lilo
edit /etc/lilo.conf to include windows 98. Then run /sbin/lilo See this page for details: http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/install/iboot.html --- marshall weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, I just upgraded to Mandrake 8.0 from 7.2. I can no longer dual boot between linux and Win 98. No lilo. How do I get the lilo back? Thanks. Marshall __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
[newbie] Re: lilo/grub problem
You had the problem with lilo boot. You have to set the lilo parameters right and write to right drive. As you told, you have windows in first drive, assumed /dev/hda, and linux in second, /dev/hdb. You need to go in linuxconf and write lilo in the second drive, /dev/hdb. I had also problems when moving boot sectors and/or partitions, I like it is better to write always new lilo. That way partition data of lilo keeps in current and it wont crash. Ari
Re: [newbie] Made LILO mistake -- Please Help
Jack Gillis wrote: I just made a mistake in installing. I forgot to tell the installer to put LILO in hda7, my boot, partition. It went into the MBR and that messed up my IBM Boot Manager. I got that straightened out with fdisk /newmbr but now I need to get LILO onto hda7 so Linux will boot. I've seen the answer to this several times but, I am ashamed to say that I never paid any attention to it because of confidence I would never make that mistake. Well here I am looking for the answer. Will some kind person please tell me how to do this? (Chatisements humbly accepted.) Thank you. Jackedit (as root) the first line of /etc/lilo.conf to read: boot=/dev/hda7 and save it. Then in console mode as root, execute lilo, like this: /sbin/lilo -v TIA -- Alan
Re: [newbie] Made LILO mistake -- Please Help
On Fri, 9 Mar 2001 01:27:38 -0800, Alan Shoemaker wrote: Yes! and thank you very much. Jackedit (as root) the first line of /etc/lilo.conf to read: boot=/dev/hda7 and save it. Then in console mode as root, execute lilo, like this: /sbin/lilo -v
