Re: Remote Backup Solutions
Since last time I looked at this product it can now do data deduplication and Acronis style bare metal recovery :) Shazad - Original message - From: Shazad Anwar sha...@fastmail.co.uk To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:29:24 +0100 Subject: Re: Remote Backup Solutions Check this out [1]http://www.druvaa.com/insync/laptop-backup Similar to dropbox but designed for business use. Works fine over VPN, internet or LAN. Shazad On 8 Oct 2009, at 21:48, Martin Blackstone wrote: I’m looking for some kind of remote backup solution for about 60 road warriors. Something that when the users connect up via VPN would be smart enough to copy their new/changed files up to my storage here at home. I’ve tried the offline files and folders and have never been 100% sold on the reliability. Something I could be a bit granular with. I don’t want to backup their whole laptop, but maybe their My Documents folder. If it could be managed from a console, great. Any ideas? References 1. http://www.druvaa.com/insync/laptop-backup ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Adding a server to the domain
Generally the only way to tell would be to haul the account name from the event and run some WMI or srvinfo query against it to return the OS 2009/10/8 Rick Fogarty rick.foga...@us.army.mil I think it's 645 Security. Now wondering if there is a way to distinguish between workstations and servers. Guess not considering at that point of the process there is no difference. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. http://raythestray.blogspot.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Once more - software RAID
Windows Home Server doesn't do RAID. It just duplicates at the file level using NTFS reparse points. Also the rebalancing functionality of WHS has nothing to do with duplication. Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Mike Hoffman [mailto:m...@drumbrae.net] Subject: RE: Once more - software RAID Home Server takes this to the next level by re-balancing so you can make a software mirror using a dozen drives all of different sizes and different technologies (sata/esata/scsi/usb/firewire) and use them all to full capacity. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: dyndns for webservers
You might get better results with a more 'business-grade' offering from DNS Providers such as DNSMadeEasy.com. They will monitor you website availability and auto switch the DNS entries to your failover IP's when required. http://www.dnsmadeeasy.com/s0306/prod/dnsfosm.html Not too bad for decent hosted DNS and failover for $35 - $60 a year. -Original Message- From: Adam Greene [mailto:maill...@webjogger.net] Sent: 06 October 2009 22:59 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: dyndns for webservers Hi, I have a customer who runs a public-facing webserver on his network and wants to have Internet provider redundancy, without getting a /24 and doing BGP. We can set him up so that if his primary connection fails, he will go out through his backup link, but his public IP addresses will change when it fails over, in that scenario. We are considering suggesting dynamic DNS to associate his webserver domain name with the changing IP addresses. Is anyone doing this, and have you found it to be a reliable solution? Thanks, adam ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ === STEMCOR CONFIDENTIALITY AND DISCLAIMER NOTICE This e-mail is intended only for the addressees named in it. The contents should not be disclosed to any other person nor copies taken. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of Stemcor unless otherwise specifically stated. Stemcor does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message nor responsibility for any change made to it after it was sent by the original sender. You are advised to carry out a virus check before opening any attachment as Stemcor does not accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of any software viruses. You should be aware that Stemcor reserves the right to read incoming and outgoing emails. === ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007
Wonder if anyone has any good links for best practices in backup and restore for Sharepoint 2007 data ( ie, how to recover a document after user accidentally deletes it from the sharepoint database, recovery after drive corruption, etc ). I have an 'associate' that has just installed Sharepoint 2007 at one of his law office clients at their request, but needs to learn more about it. I've done *some* work with Sharepoint but don't consider myself at the expert/specialist level and could use some feedback from those that have the proper experience ... Thanks in advance Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007
You'll need to have a backup solution that is Sharepoint aware not just SQL aware. Backup Exec has an agent specifically for Sharepoint that will do the document level backup/restore you are asking for. Otherwise, if you just rely on SQL backups, you'll have to restore the entire SQL db to recover, which means everything since the backup is lost. I think most of the major backup software packages have something like BE has now for Sharepoint. A few years ago, that wasn't the case and you had to go with 3rd party backup to get the document level restore capability. We used a product called AvePoint for that for a couple of years until BE came out with their SP agent. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com wrote: Wonder if anyone has any good links for best practices in backup and restore for Sharepoint 2007 data ( ie, how to recover a document after user accidentally deletes it from the sharepoint database, recovery after drive corruption, etc ). I have an 'associate' that has just installed Sharepoint 2007 at one of his law office clients at their request, but needs to learn more about it. I've done *some* work with Sharepoint but don't consider myself at the expert/specialist level and could use some feedback from those that have the proper experience ... Thanks in advance Erik Goldoff *IT Consultant* *Systems, Networks, Security * -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007
thanks, I think he might have BE at that client site already, so maybe a simple upgrade will take care of what he needs . Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security _ From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007 You'll need to have a backup solution that is Sharepoint aware not just SQL aware. Backup Exec has an agent specifically for Sharepoint that will do the document level backup/restore you are asking for. Otherwise, if you just rely on SQL backups, you'll have to restore the entire SQL db to recover, which means everything since the backup is lost. I think most of the major backup software packages have something like BE has now for Sharepoint. A few years ago, that wasn't the case and you had to go with 3rd party backup to get the document level restore capability. We used a product called AvePoint for that for a couple of years until BE came out with their SP agent. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com wrote: Wonder if anyone has any good links for best practices in backup and restore for Sharepoint 2007 data ( ie, how to recover a document after user accidentally deletes it from the sharepoint database, recovery after drive corruption, etc ). I have an 'associate' that has just installed Sharepoint 2007 at one of his law office clients at their request, but needs to learn more about it. I've done *some* work with Sharepoint but don't consider myself at the expert/specialist level and could use some feedback from those that have the proper experience ... Thanks in advance Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007
Indeed. I can confirm both Veritas NetBackup and CommVault Simpana both have Sharepoint agent document-level capability. We are moving from the former to the latter. -sc From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007 You'll need to have a backup solution that is Sharepoint aware not just SQL aware. Backup Exec has an agent specifically for Sharepoint that will do the document level backup/restore you are asking for. Otherwise, if you just rely on SQL backups, you'll have to restore the entire SQL db to recover, which means everything since the backup is lost. I think most of the major backup software packages have something like BE has now for Sharepoint. A few years ago, that wasn't the case and you had to go with 3rd party backup to get the document level restore capability. We used a product called AvePoint for that for a couple of years until BE came out with their SP agent. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com wrote: Wonder if anyone has any good links for best practices in backup and restore for Sharepoint 2007 data ( ie, how to recover a document after user accidentally deletes it from the sharepoint database, recovery after drive corruption, etc ). I have an 'associate' that has just installed Sharepoint 2007 at one of his law office clients at their request, but needs to learn more about it. I've done *some* work with Sharepoint but don't consider myself at the expert/specialist level and could use some feedback from those that have the proper experience ... Thanks in advance Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Patch management software question, again...
WSUS will tell you what is pending reboot. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 11:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Patch management software question, again... Yep...understood. We're going to end up going with GFI LANGuard, which has an option to not reboot the server upon updates. However, I would still need to get a script, or something that can give me a report on what servers need to be rebooted. Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com 10/8/2009 11:09 AM On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: But, my sup here wants to be able to schedule the updates, install them, but NOT reboot. I don't think you want to do that. That means you've got some files on the system updated, but others pending move, so you could end up running new tasks with an inconsistent code base. I know I've seen commentary from Microsoft that says you should reboot ASAP after doing an update. Schedule the install and reboot to happen at the same time. You can schedule the install to happen after hours, too. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007
It's available for v. 11 up of BE. It works, I think I've had to do a restore once since we implemented the BE solution for SP. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com wrote: thanks, I think he might have BE at that client site already, so maybe a simple upgrade will take care of what he needs . Erik Goldoff *IT Consultant* *Systems, Networks, Security * -- *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, October 09, 2009 8:40 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007 You'll need to have a backup solution that is Sharepoint aware not just SQL aware. Backup Exec has an agent specifically for Sharepoint that will do the document level backup/restore you are asking for. Otherwise, if you just rely on SQL backups, you'll have to restore the entire SQL db to recover, which means everything since the backup is lost. I think most of the major backup software packages have something like BE has now for Sharepoint. A few years ago, that wasn't the case and you had to go with 3rd party backup to get the document level restore capability. We used a product called AvePoint for that for a couple of years until BE came out with their SP agent. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com wrote: Wonder if anyone has any good links for best practices in backup and restore for Sharepoint 2007 data ( ie, how to recover a document after user accidentally deletes it from the sharepoint database, recovery after drive corruption, etc ). I have an 'associate' that has just installed Sharepoint 2007 at one of his law office clients at their request, but needs to learn more about it. I've done *some* work with Sharepoint but don't consider myself at the expert/specialist level and could use some feedback from those that have the proper experience ... Thanks in advance Erik Goldoff *IT Consultant* *Systems, Networks, Security * -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Newark, TX, United States ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007
AvePoint also have a popular product (DocAve) in addition to the two listed below. I would strongly recommend against DPM 2007. Cheers Ken From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, 9 October 2009 8:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007 Indeed. I can confirm both Veritas NetBackup and CommVault Simpana both have Sharepoint agent document-level capability. We are moving from the former to the latter. -sc From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007 You'll need to have a backup solution that is Sharepoint aware not just SQL aware. Backup Exec has an agent specifically for Sharepoint that will do the document level backup/restore you are asking for. Otherwise, if you just rely on SQL backups, you'll have to restore the entire SQL db to recover, which means everything since the backup is lost. I think most of the major backup software packages have something like BE has now for Sharepoint. A few years ago, that wasn't the case and you had to go with 3rd party backup to get the document level restore capability. We used a product called AvePoint for that for a couple of years until BE came out with their SP agent. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.commailto:egold...@gmail.com wrote: Wonder if anyone has any good links for best practices in backup and restore for Sharepoint 2007 data ( ie, how to recover a document after user accidentally deletes it from the sharepoint database, recovery after drive corruption, etc ). I have an 'associate' that has just installed Sharepoint 2007 at one of his law office clients at their request, but needs to learn more about it. I've done *some* work with Sharepoint but don't consider myself at the expert/specialist level and could use some feedback from those that have the proper experience ... Thanks in advance Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
MPLS
We have three satellite offices in two states connected to our main office via point to point T1s. Each office has their own dedicated Internet connection. All data and email is centralized in our main office with each satellite office having their own phone switch. We use VOIP for inter office communication and voice mail. We do not do video conferencing yet but do make use of VPN and remote desktop services for folks working remotely. I have several vendors pushing me hard for changing all our circuits over to MPLS . It seems that the price of doing this may be more than what everything currently costs now. I have also looked into leaving the P2P Ts as they are but switching most of our dedicated Internet connections to Comcast Business cable. Doing this would multiply my Internet bandwidth by a factor of 6 but cut my monthly costs at our main office by more than 75%. I've read up on MPLS and it seems that the QOS is indeed better but it also sometimes has packet loss issues. I'd appreciate any opinions on the switch to MPLS and any hands on experience stories that you'd be willing to share. Thanks. Steve ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Printer Dissappearring
I have a HP 3700N (PCL5e) that is networked/shared off a Windows 2003 server R2 SE SP2. Every so often (there is no pattern) the printer will be deleted off the server. There's no rhyme or reason as to why. I have double checked to be sure there was no software or services running that would do this (ie. HP's CUE service). I have checked the event log there are only records of when someone prints to it (can't find if there's a way to audit when a printers deleted...still Googling that one). Any suggestions as to why this might be happening? Or how to figure out who/what's doing it? Thanks, Scott --- Scott Wilhelm Computer Technician Massena Central School District St. Lawrence-Lewis BOCES (315) 764-3700 ext. 3043 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Printer Dissappearring
Check the permissions and see who has access to delete it. If needs be, change them to a select few and see if it stops 2009/10/9 Wilhelm, Scott swilh...@mcs.k12.ny.us I have a HP 3700N (PCL5e) that is networked/shared off a Windows 2003 server R2 SE SP2. Every so often (there is no pattern) the printer will be deleted off the server. There’s no rhyme or reason as to why. I have double checked to be sure there was no software or services running that would do this (ie. HP’s CUE service). I have checked the event log there are only records of when someone prints to it (can’t find if there’s a way to audit when a printers deleted…still Googling that one). Any suggestions as to why this might be happening? Or how to figure out who/what’s doing it? Thanks, Scott --- Scott Wilhelm Computer Technician Massena Central School District St. Lawrence-Lewis BOCES (315) 764-3700 ext. 3043 -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. http://raythestray.blogspot.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Printer Dissappearring
We've already buttoned down the security. The teachers students definitely do not have permission to this printer. We have verified this visually through the effective permissions tab. Thank you, Scott From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Printer Dissappearring Check the permissions and see who has access to delete it. If needs be, change them to a select few and see if it stops ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: forward email to fax?
GFI Faxmaker can do this. Whether your email client/server can will depend on your setup. Jim From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 2:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: forward email to fax? In a windows environment(W2k3) with Ex2k3 is there a way to forward email delivered to a mailbox to a fax device and send without user input? would always be going to same fax number. Any ideas, recommendations? Anyone using GFI, Faxmaker, can it be used this way, to forward from mailbox and automatically fax, or would it require some user interraction? Thanks for any help. Jeff ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007
Interesting. We are looking at evaluating DPM. Can you elaborate on why you recommend against it? Thanks ...Tim From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 6:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007 AvePoint also have a popular product (DocAve) in addition to the two listed below. I would strongly recommend against DPM 2007. Cheers Ken From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, 9 October 2009 8:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007 Indeed. I can confirm both Veritas NetBackup and CommVault Simpana both have Sharepoint agent document-level capability. We are moving from the former to the latter. -sc From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007 You'll need to have a backup solution that is Sharepoint aware not just SQL aware. Backup Exec has an agent specifically for Sharepoint that will do the document level backup/restore you are asking for. Otherwise, if you just rely on SQL backups, you'll have to restore the entire SQL db to recover, which means everything since the backup is lost. I think most of the major backup software packages have something like BE has now for Sharepoint. A few years ago, that wasn't the case and you had to go with 3rd party backup to get the document level restore capability. We used a product called AvePoint for that for a couple of years until BE came out with their SP agent. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.commailto:egold...@gmail.com wrote: Wonder if anyone has any good links for best practices in backup and restore for Sharepoint 2007 data ( ie, how to recover a document after user accidentally deletes it from the sharepoint database, recovery after drive corruption, etc ). I have an 'associate' that has just installed Sharepoint 2007 at one of his law office clients at their request, but needs to learn more about it. I've done *some* work with Sharepoint but don't consider myself at the expert/specialist level and could use some feedback from those that have the proper experience ... Thanks in advance Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Wow
I never realized how easy man-in-the-middle attacks were executed... http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=7303 Specifically: http://isc.sans.org/diaryimages/rdp-mitm-mpg.html David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Wilhelm, Scott [mailto:swilh...@mcs.k12.ny.us] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 6:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Printer Dissappearring I have a HP 3700N (PCL5e) that is networked/shared off a Windows 2003 server R2 SE SP2. Every so often (there is no pattern) the printer will be deleted off the server. There's no rhyme or reason as to why. I have double checked to be sure there was no software or services running that would do this (ie. HP's CUE service). I have checked the event log there are only records of when someone prints to it (can't find if there's a way to audit when a printers deleted...still Googling that one). Any suggestions as to why this might be happening? Or how to figure out who/what's doing it? Thanks, Scott --- Scott Wilhelm Computer Technician Massena Central School District St. Lawrence-Lewis BOCES (315) 764-3700 ext. 3043 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: MPLS
I think the saying you get what you pay for applies here. Nothing against Comcast but you won't get the same QOS out of a cable line that you will from MPLS. That being said we have a Comcast business line for a remote warehouse and run an ASA there to hardware VPN back to our main office. It works great, speed is awesome. Yes it bounces up and down a lot but for us the connection isn't that critical and the price of any other type of line was cost prohibitive. So it's really up to you to decide if a little (or a lot of) down time here an there is worth the cost savings. From: chipsh...@comcast.net [mailto:chipsh...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: MPLS We have three satellite offices in two states connected to our main office via point to point T1s. Each office has their own dedicated Internet connection. All data and email is centralized in our main office with each satellite office having their own phone switch. We use VOIP for inter office communication and voice mail. We do not do video conferencing yet but do make use of VPN and remote desktop services for folks working remotely. I have several vendors pushing me hard for changing all our circuits over to MPLS. It seems that the price of doing this may be more than what everything currently costs now. I have also looked into leaving the P2P Ts as they are but switching most of our dedicated Internet connections to Comcast Business cable. Doing this would multiply my Internet bandwidth by a factor of 6 but cut my monthly costs at our main office by more than 75%. I've read up on MPLS and it seems that the QOS is indeed better but it also sometimes has packet loss issues. I'd appreciate any opinions on the switch to MPLS and any hands on experience stories that you'd be willing to share. Thanks. Steve ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: MPLS
We have an 4.5 mb MPLS connection from here to our alternate site and it has served us very well. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:21 AM, chipsh...@comcast.net wrote: We have three satellite offices in two states connected to our main office via point to point T1s. Each office has their own dedicated Internet connection. All data and email is centralized in our main office with each satellite office having their own phone switch. We use VOIP for inter office communication and voice mail. We do not do video conferencing yet but do make use of VPN and remote desktop services for folks working remotely. I have several vendors pushing me hard for changing all our circuits over to MPLS. It seems that the price of doing this may be more than what everything currently costs now. I have also looked into leaving the P2P Ts as they are but switching most of our dedicated Internet connections to Comcast Business cable. Doing this would multiply my Internet bandwidth by a factor of 6 but cut my monthly costs at our main office by more than 75%. I've read up on MPLS and it seems that the QOS is indeed better but it also sometimes has packet loss issues. I'd appreciate any opinions on the switch to MPLS and any hands on experience stories that you'd be willing to share. Thanks. Steve -- -- Gregory Waleed Kavalec - What matters?... Only the flicker of light within the darkness, the feeling of warmth within the cold, the knowledge of love within the void. — Joan Walsh Anglund ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007
If you have a small SharePoint infrastructure it'll probably work OK. If you're looking at a more enterprise level setup, then here's a few things I ran into... a) DPM requires LocalSystem to be sysadmin in the SQL Server instance that SharePoint is installed into. That's for the SQL Server VSS writer to be able to enumerate databases. It also requires DataReader permissions in every other SQL Server instance on the machine (or cluster node). That's a violation of Microsoft's best practise guides for securing SQL Server. If you have the same people administering SQL Server as you have for Windows, then probably not so much of an issue. If you have separate teams, then the DBAs will probably not be happy b) DPM agent can only be installed on a single SharePoint WFE at a time. So you build a highly available MOSS installation with multiple WFEs, clustered SQL Server etc, but your backup solution falls over because one crucial WFE is offline c) DPM restoration requires a separate, standalone, MOSS installation. To restore anything less granular than a single database (e.g. a site or document or list), DPM copies the entire content database to this standalone MOSS installation, then uses SharePoint APIs to extract the necessary documents into a backup file, then copies that to your Production MOSS installation, and then imports it. So, you are paying for extra MOSS license. d) The Site Collection template of the site you are restoring must match the site collection that you are restoring into. But you can't see what those site collection templates are from within DPM. e) If DPM is performing a backup, you can't do a restore without cancelling the in progress backup. However in my experience the actual backup can take a long time (in the order of many hours) if the WFE that you have your DPM agent on is busy (e.g. participating in crawling content). DPM backups will also fail if the SQL Server is heavily loaded (e.g. backups of SQL Server or other maintenance operations are in progress) f) If you remove a content database, you need to take an entire baseline replica again and start taking new snapshots. This can start to blow out your DPM storage requirements if you frequently add/remove content databases g) DPM backs up in a couple of ways - it backs up the databases directly from the SQL Server via VSS, and then gets a catalogue of restorable items from the WFE. If the latter fails, half the time you don't seem to get a decent warning about it. Instead, when you try to restore you find out that you can only restore an entire database. When you attempt to drill down to content, you can't h) Installing DPM relies on a bunch of hotfixes and other stuff to be installed to get it working properly. There's even a DPM hotfix you need to install if you install MOSS Feb 2009 CU, because somehow that MOSS CU stops DPM discovering your MOSS installation as a protectable item. VSS is another thing that seems to require continual patching. Cheers Ken From: Tim Evans [mailto:tev...@sparling.com] Sent: Friday, 9 October 2009 9:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007 Interesting. We are looking at evaluating DPM. Can you elaborate on why you recommend against it? Thanks ...Tim From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 6:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007 AvePoint also have a popular product (DocAve) in addition to the two listed below. I would strongly recommend against DPM 2007. Cheers Ken From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, 9 October 2009 8:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007 Indeed. I can confirm both Veritas NetBackup and CommVault Simpana both have Sharepoint agent document-level capability. We are moving from the former to the latter. -sc From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007 You'll need to have a backup solution that is Sharepoint aware not just SQL aware. Backup Exec has an agent specifically for Sharepoint that will do the document level backup/restore you are asking for. Otherwise, if you just rely on SQL backups, you'll have to restore the entire SQL db to recover, which means everything since the backup is lost. I think most of the major backup software packages have something like BE has now for Sharepoint. A few years ago, that wasn't the case and you had to go with 3rd party backup to get the document level restore capability. We used a product called AvePoint for that for a couple of years until BE came out with their SP agent. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Erik Goldoff
RE: Printer Dissappearring
For the network here, it's only 1 specific printer that's being affected. If the print spooler was dying here, then all the printers on that server would be gone, which would affect the entire district. Thanks, Scott From: David Coffey [mailto:dcof...@sllboces.org] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Printer Dissappearring I have some doing the same and the print spooler service will stop and have to be restarted as well. I think it may be a conflict with some of the later Dell printers and they're software? Dave ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Printer Dissappearring
Maybe use psloggedon or something like that to verify who is logged on around the time it was deleted? I think you can actually turn on printer auditing for certain groups through the Security | Advanced tab in Printer Properties, I would enable this for the users that have access. Not sure it audits deletion actions though, never looked (or had the need, fortunately!) 2009/10/9 Wilhelm, Scott swilh...@mcs.k12.ny.us We’ve already buttoned down the security. The teachers students definitely do not have permission to this printer. We have verified this visually through the effective permissions tab. Thank you, Scott *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] *Sent:* Friday, October 09, 2009 9:32 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Printer Dissappearring Check the permissions and see who has access to delete it. If needs be, change them to a select few and see if it stops -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. http://raythestray.blogspot.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Printer Dissappearring
I looked into the auditing, but there didn't appear to be a way to audit the deletion of a printer. :( I'll look into the psloggedon app, but the problem is that it will most likely give me the option of about 100 teachers 100's of students... Thanks, Scott From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Printer Dissappearring Maybe use psloggedon or something like that to verify who is logged on around the time it was deleted? I think you can actually turn on printer auditing for certain groups through the Security | Advanced tab in Printer Properties, I would enable this for the users that have access. Not sure it audits deletion actions though, never looked (or had the need, fortunately!) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: MPLS
I use PAETEC www.paetec.com for our 9 location (across 6 states) MPLS WAN network. Works very very well, we utilize QoS for VoIP, and have very little problems. PAETEC's account team, and customer service is impeccable. Our main location has a 1.5 MB MPLS connection to PAETEC. Our remote sites have either 512k - 768k - 1.5MB MPLS connections to PAETEC depending on their size. All the remote locations' traffic travels from their site, to PAETEC, then back to my location where all the resources are (servers, internet access) There are no resources at the remote locations, just PCs, printers, a switch, and a router. The run all their applications on our servers (through Citrix), and their phones connect to our PBX via VoIP. Heck, the domain controllers are even in our main location. Hope that helps. PS - Where are you located? This will determine what your options are. From: chipsh...@comcast.net [mailto:chipsh...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: MPLS We have three satellite offices in two states connected to our main office via point to point T1s. Each office has their own dedicated Internet connection. All data and email is centralized in our main office with each satellite office having their own phone switch. We use VOIP for inter office communication and voice mail. We do not do video conferencing yet but do make use of VPN and remote desktop services for folks working remotely. I have several vendors pushing me hard for changing all our circuits over to MPLS. It seems that the price of doing this may be more than what everything currently costs now. I have also looked into leaving the P2P Ts as they are but switching most of our dedicated Internet connections to Comcast Business cable. Doing this would multiply my Internet bandwidth by a factor of 6 but cut my monthly costs at our main office by more than 75%. I've read up on MPLS and it seems that the QOS is indeed better but it also sometimes has packet loss issues. I'd appreciate any opinions on the switch to MPLS and any hands on experience stories that you'd be willing to share. Thanks. Steve ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
NAS/SAN
So, we're working on getting our first big storage appliance here. As the IT Manager it's my job to get quotes, etc. I'm talking to all the big boys out there and getting a lot of good quotes. My requirements are fairly simple: 1) On the order of 5 Terabytes of storage (significantly more than we are using currently.) 2) Redundant everything (disks, controllers, network, power, etc.) That's about it. We are looking, eventually, to bring email in-house, probably using Kerio mail server as it's got the features we need at a price we can live with. The problem is that I'm getting quotes all over the place. The last quote I got was for a QNap ISCSI NAS with 6 1 Tb drives, but it doesn't have the redundancy I'm looking for (no redundant controllers.) I've gotten quotes from vendors for HP, LSI, NetApp, QNap and am working on an Equallogic quote. Anyone else I should be looking at? Our plan is to get two of these for DR/Business Continuity purposes and have one of them at a remote office, and possibly even back the remote one up to tape. J Am I being too paranoid? Not enough? Anything else I should be looking at? At first I was really wanting single-instance storage, but the LSI vendor kind of talked me out of that being a requirement. I get a report every night from the current storage detailing all duplicate files, and there aren't that many so I think I can get away with not having de-duplication/single-instance storage. Your thoughts, please? John-AldrichTile-Tools ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: Adding a server to the domain
Don't know if the OP is looking for a free solution, but we use Active Administrator and have it setup to alert us whenever a comp account is added to the domain, among other events. This has helped us keep our AD environment cleaner by making sure objects are put where they should be from day one. Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Adding a server to the domain Generally the only way to tell would be to haul the account name from the event and run some WMI or srvinfo query against it to return the OS 2009/10/8 Rick Fogarty rick.foga...@us.army.mil I think it's 645 Security. Now wondering if there is a way to distinguish between workstations and servers. Guess not considering at that point of the process there is no difference. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. http://raythestray.blogspot.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Lotus Notes
We have a Lotus Notes client 6.5(only the client, we run Exchange) that is on 4 machines. At the moment the users can't view what is in other users inbox on the clients. Is there a way that we can place the client on a server, then place a shortcut to notes.exe on the 4 users desktops and have them view the same inbox? _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: NAS/SAN
The Dell rebranded EMC units and EqualLogic devices are pretty competitive. These would need to be front ended with something to serve up NAS duties tho... they are FC or iSCSI SAN only -sc From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NAS/SAN So, we're working on getting our first big storage appliance here. As the IT Manager it's my job to get quotes, etc. I'm talking to all the big boys out there and getting a lot of good quotes. My requirements are fairly simple: 1) On the order of 5 Terabytes of storage (significantly more than we are using currently.) 2) Redundant everything (disks, controllers, network, power, etc.) That's about it. We are looking, eventually, to bring email in-house, probably using Kerio mail server as it's got the features we need at a price we can live with. The problem is that I'm getting quotes all over the place. The last quote I got was for a QNap ISCSI NAS with 6 1 Tb drives, but it doesn't have the redundancy I'm looking for (no redundant controllers.) I've gotten quotes from vendors for HP, LSI, NetApp, QNap and am working on an Equallogic quote. Anyone else I should be looking at? Our plan is to get two of these for DR/Business Continuity purposes and have one of them at a remote office, and possibly even back the remote one up to tape. J Am I being too paranoid? Not enough? Anything else I should be looking at? At first I was really wanting single-instance storage, but the LSI vendor kind of talked me out of that being a requirement. I get a report every night from the current storage detailing all duplicate files, and there aren't that many so I think I can get away with not having de-duplication/single-instance storage. Your thoughts, please? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Re: NAS/SAN
I'm in the same boat...looking at around 5TBs, sort of have it narrowed down to lefthand or equallogic. It's a tough choice. A friend of mine went with datacore software...that looks good too. Definitely cheaper/ On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:06 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote: So, we’re working on getting our first big “storage appliance” here. As the IT Manager it’s my job to get quotes, etc. I’m talking to all the “big boys” out there and getting a lot of good quotes. My requirements are fairly simple: 1) On the order of 5 Terabytes of storage (*significantly* more than we are using currently.) 2) Redundant everything (disks, controllers, network, power, etc.) That’s about it. We are looking, eventually, to bring email in-house, probably using Kerio mail server as it’s got the features we need at a price we can live with. The problem is that I’m getting quotes all over the place. The last quote I got was for a QNap ISCSI NAS with 6 1 Tb drives, but it doesn’t have the redundancy I’m looking for (no redundant controllers.) I’ve gotten quotes from vendors for HP, LSI, NetApp, QNap and am working on an Equallogic quote. Anyone else I should be looking at? Our plan is to get two of these for DR/Business Continuity purposes and have one of them at a remote office, and possibly even back the remote one up to tape. J Am I being too paranoid? Not enough? Anything else I should be looking at? At first I was really wanting single-instance storage, but the LSI vendor kind of talked me out of that being a requirement. I get a report every night from the current storage detailing all duplicate files, and there aren’t that many so I think I can get away with not having de-duplication/single-instance storage. Your thoughts, please? [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Re: NAS/SAN
Definitely take a look at StoneFly. They make a variety of iSCSI and FC storage products that are mega redundant, fast, and cost-effective. And highly scalable. I can recommend a VAR as well. -*ASB*: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker Providing Competitive Advantage through Effective IT Leadership On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:06 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote: So, we’re working on getting our first big “storage appliance” here. As the IT Manager it’s my job to get quotes, etc. I’m talking to all the “big boys” out there and getting a lot of good quotes. My requirements are fairly simple: 1) On the order of 5 Terabytes of storage (*significantly* more than we are using currently.) 2) Redundant everything (disks, controllers, network, power, etc.) That’s about it. We are looking, eventually, to bring email in-house, probably using Kerio mail server as it’s got the features we need at a price we can live with. The problem is that I’m getting quotes all over the place. The last quote I got was for a QNap ISCSI NAS with 6 1 Tb drives, but it doesn’t have the redundancy I’m looking for (no redundant controllers.) I’ve gotten quotes from vendors for HP, LSI, NetApp, QNap and am working on an Equallogic quote. Anyone else I should be looking at? Our plan is to get two of these for DR/Business Continuity purposes and have one of them at a remote office, and possibly even back the remote one up to tape. J Am I being too paranoid? Not enough? Anything else I should be looking at? At first I was really wanting single-instance storage, but the LSI vendor kind of talked me out of that being a requirement. I get a report every night from the current storage detailing all duplicate files, and there aren’t that many so I think I can get away with not having de-duplication/single-instance storage. Your thoughts, please? [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: NAS/SAN
I would highly recommend EMC. From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NAS/SAN So, we're working on getting our first big storage appliance here. As the IT Manager it's my job to get quotes, etc. I'm talking to all the big boys out there and getting a lot of good quotes. My requirements are fairly simple: 1) On the order of 5 Terabytes of storage (significantly more than we are using currently.) 2) Redundant everything (disks, controllers, network, power, etc.) That's about it. We are looking, eventually, to bring email in-house, probably using Kerio mail server as it's got the features we need at a price we can live with. The problem is that I'm getting quotes all over the place. The last quote I got was for a QNap ISCSI NAS with 6 1 Tb drives, but it doesn't have the redundancy I'm looking for (no redundant controllers.) I've gotten quotes from vendors for HP, LSI, NetApp, QNap and am working on an Equallogic quote. Anyone else I should be looking at? Our plan is to get two of these for DR/Business Continuity purposes and have one of them at a remote office, and possibly even back the remote one up to tape. J Am I being too paranoid? Not enough? Anything else I should be looking at? At first I was really wanting single-instance storage, but the LSI vendor kind of talked me out of that being a requirement. I get a report every night from the current storage detailing all duplicate files, and there aren't that many so I think I can get away with not having de-duplication/single-instance storage. Your thoughts, please? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: MPLS
I have been using Sprint for our MPLS for the last 5 years. We have sites with 45mbps, 12mbps, and 6mps (9 sites total). I am running VOIP across all of these with no QOS issues or drops. Service has been excellent. From: chipsh...@comcast.net [mailto:chipsh...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: MPLS We have three satellite offices in two states connected to our main office via point to point T1s. Each office has their own dedicated Internet connection. All data and email is centralized in our main office with each satellite office having their own phone switch. We use VOIP for inter office communication and voice mail. We do not do video conferencing yet but do make use of VPN and remote desktop services for folks working remotely. I have several vendors pushing me hard for changing all our circuits over to MPLS. It seems that the price of doing this may be more than what everything currently costs now. I have also looked into leaving the P2P Ts as they are but switching most of our dedicated Internet connections to Comcast Business cable. Doing this would multiply my Internet bandwidth by a factor of 6 but cut my monthly costs at our main office by more than 75%. I've read up on MPLS and it seems that the QOS is indeed better but it also sometimes has packet loss issues. I'd appreciate any opinions on the switch to MPLS and any hands on experience stories that you'd be willing to share. Thanks. Steve ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: NAS/SAN
We got a 20TB iSCSI SAN last year from StoneFly (I had demo'd them with my previous employer). They are fast (both the SAS and SATA modules), and stable. Easy to use and excellent pricing. And they support NAS functionality as a front-end to any portion of the storage. -*ASB*: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker Providing Competitive Advantage through Effective IT Leadership On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in the same boat...looking at around 5TBs, sort of have it narrowed down to lefthand or equallogic. It's a tough choice. A friend of mine went with datacore software...that looks good too. Definitely cheaper/ On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:06 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: So, we’re working on getting our first big “storage appliance” here. As the IT Manager it’s my job to get quotes, etc. I’m talking to all the “big boys” out there and getting a lot of good quotes. My requirements are fairly simple: 1) On the order of 5 Terabytes of storage (*significantly* more than we are using currently.) 2) Redundant everything (disks, controllers, network, power, etc.) That’s about it. We are looking, eventually, to bring email in-house, probably using Kerio mail server as it’s got the features we need at a price we can live with. The problem is that I’m getting quotes all over the place. The last quote I got was for a QNap ISCSI NAS with 6 1 Tb drives, but it doesn’t have the redundancy I’m looking for (no redundant controllers.) I’ve gotten quotes from vendors for HP, LSI, NetApp, QNap and am working on an Equallogic quote. Anyone else I should be looking at? Our plan is to get two of these for DR/Business Continuity purposes and have one of them at a remote office, and possibly even back the remote one up to tape. J Am I being too paranoid? Not enough? Anything else I should be looking at? At first I was really wanting single-instance storage, but the LSI vendor kind of talked me out of that being a requirement. I get a report every night from the current storage detailing all duplicate files, and there aren’t that many so I think I can get away with not having de-duplication/single-instance storage. Your thoughts, please? [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Re: dyndns for webservers
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 6:28 AM, Steve Burkett steve.burk...@stemcor.com wrote: You might get better results with a more 'business-grade' offering from DNS Providers such as DNSMadeEasy.com. While the monitoring/auto-switching stuff may be of benefit if you want that, most of the limitations I described are inherent in the technology. No DNS host can do much of anything about it, except perhaps recognize certain failure modes more quickly when you call for support. :) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: If you’re looking at a more enterprise level setup, then here’s a few things I ran into... Yikes! Thanks for that info. /me crosses DPM off my list of backup solutions to evaluate for next year's server upgrades. I particularly like how Microsoft's own backup solution doesn't comply with Microsoft's own best practices recommendations for their own database solution. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: NAS/SAN
Yah. I planned on sharing the files out over our existing file servers. J John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NAS/SAN The Dell rebranded EMC units and EqualLogic devices are pretty competitive. These would need to be front ended with something to serve up NAS duties tho. they are FC or iSCSI SAN only -sc From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NAS/SAN So, we're working on getting our first big storage appliance here. As the IT Manager it's my job to get quotes, etc. I'm talking to all the big boys out there and getting a lot of good quotes. My requirements are fairly simple: 1) On the order of 5 Terabytes of storage (significantly more than we are using currently.) 2) Redundant everything (disks, controllers, network, power, etc.) That's about it. We are looking, eventually, to bring email in-house, probably using Kerio mail server as it's got the features we need at a price we can live with. The problem is that I'm getting quotes all over the place. The last quote I got was for a QNap ISCSI NAS with 6 1 Tb drives, but it doesn't have the redundancy I'm looking for (no redundant controllers.) I've gotten quotes from vendors for HP, LSI, NetApp, QNap and am working on an Equallogic quote. Anyone else I should be looking at? Our plan is to get two of these for DR/Business Continuity purposes and have one of them at a remote office, and possibly even back the remote one up to tape. J Am I being too paranoid? Not enough? Anything else I should be looking at? At first I was really wanting single-instance storage, but the LSI vendor kind of talked me out of that being a requirement. I get a report every night from the current storage detailing all duplicate files, and there aren't that many so I think I can get away with not having de-duplication/single-instance storage. Your thoughts, please? John-AldrichTile-Tools ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: NAS/SAN
Please do, Andrew. I don't know anyone in this area who sells those. J John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NAS/SAN Definitely take a look at StoneFly. They make a variety of iSCSI and FC storage products that are mega redundant, fast, and cost-effective. And highly scalable. I can recommend a VAR as well. -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker Providing Competitive Advantage through Effective IT Leadership On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:06 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: So, we're working on getting our first big storage appliance here. As the IT Manager it's my job to get quotes, etc. I'm talking to all the big boys out there and getting a lot of good quotes. My requirements are fairly simple: 1) On the order of 5 Terabytes of storage (significantly more than we are using currently.) 2) Redundant everything (disks, controllers, network, power, etc.) That's about it. We are looking, eventually, to bring email in-house, probably using Kerio mail server as it's got the features we need at a price we can live with. The problem is that I'm getting quotes all over the place. The last quote I got was for a QNap ISCSI NAS with 6 1 Tb drives, but it doesn't have the redundancy I'm looking for (no redundant controllers.) I've gotten quotes from vendors for HP, LSI, NetApp, QNap and am working on an Equallogic quote. Anyone else I should be looking at? Our plan is to get two of these for DR/Business Continuity purposes and have one of them at a remote office, and possibly even back the remote one up to tape. J Am I being too paranoid? Not enough? Anything else I should be looking at? At first I was really wanting single-instance storage, but the LSI vendor kind of talked me out of that being a requirement. I get a report every night from the current storage detailing all duplicate files, and there aren't that many so I think I can get away with not having de-duplication/single-instance storage. Your thoughts, please? John-AldrichTile-Tools ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007
We use DPM here for SharePoint backup with no issues at all. Love it actually. But we are not a large enterprise install base. I think it will depend on the individual case. Tim From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007 AvePoint also have a popular product (DocAve) in addition to the two listed below. I would strongly recommend against DPM 2007. Cheers Ken From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, 9 October 2009 8:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007 Indeed. I can confirm both Veritas NetBackup and CommVault Simpana both have Sharepoint agent document-level capability. We are moving from the former to the latter. -sc From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007 You'll need to have a backup solution that is Sharepoint aware not just SQL aware. Backup Exec has an agent specifically for Sharepoint that will do the document level backup/restore you are asking for. Otherwise, if you just rely on SQL backups, you'll have to restore the entire SQL db to recover, which means everything since the backup is lost. I think most of the major backup software packages have something like BE has now for Sharepoint. A few years ago, that wasn't the case and you had to go with 3rd party backup to get the document level restore capability. We used a product called AvePoint for that for a couple of years until BE came out with their SP agent. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.commailto:egold...@gmail.com wrote: Wonder if anyone has any good links for best practices in backup and restore for Sharepoint 2007 data ( ie, how to recover a document after user accidentally deletes it from the sharepoint database, recovery after drive corruption, etc ). I have an 'associate' that has just installed Sharepoint 2007 at one of his law office clients at their request, but needs to learn more about it. I've done *some* work with Sharepoint but don't consider myself at the expert/specialist level and could use some feedback from those that have the proper experience ... Thanks in advance Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: [ActiveDir] Fwd: REPLMON shows errors, but only in 1 direction ...
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Coleman, Hunter hcole...@mt.gov wrote: Who does MJRSWDC001 point to for its primary DNS server? It points to WDC001 (even though it is also a DNS server, it does not point to itself for DNS or WINS). WDC001 is the primary DNS in use by all servers and workstations. If it's pointing to one of the other DCs, and you stop and restart the netlogon service, that will make sure that all of the necessary DNS records get updated on the other DCs. If it's pointed to itself, then switch it to one of the other DCs for the time being. I don't think I can bounce the NETLOGON service during working hours, but I should be able to do that this evening. In changing the IP address on MJRSWDC001, did this also change its site affiliation? No. Site affiliation stayed the same. The only change for this DC was in IP address. More info - we also have WDC002 as a DC. We added this as a replication partner for MJRSWDC001. And now WDC002 is showing the same error during replication, as WDC001 does. (RPC server is unavailable on MJRSWDC001) So it looks like I've narrowed it down to none of the DCs being able to push replication into MJRSWDC001, although I still don't know why ... I have IP connectivity; replication does *sometimes* work. I am considering temporarily putting in another DC at that site; demoting MJRSWDC001 back to a member server; rebuilding it from scratch; and then DCPROMO it again. (and gracefully retire the temp DC). Theoretically, that should resolve that part of the problem. Only question is - do I continue to use the name MJRSWDC001 after rebuilding, for fear of some leftover references in AD that might screw things up ? -Original Message- From: activedir-ow...@mail.activedir.org [mailto:activedir-ow...@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Michael Leone Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:10 PM To: active...@mail.activedir.org; NT Admin Mailing List Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Fwd: REPLMON shows errors, but only in 1 direction ... A thought occurred to us - the server MJRSWDC001 recently had it's IP addresses changed (we moved it from one building to another, so it had to changed subnets). I'm wondering if somehow the replication is confused, and is trying to contact MJRSWDC001 using it's old IP address. It shouldn't - I did check forward and reverse DNS, and that server does show it's proper (new) address. Farfetched? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: MPLS
WOW Nice bandwidth you've got there. How many users at each site? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MPLS I have been using Sprint for our MPLS for the last 5 year We have sites with 45mbps, 12mbps, and 6mps (9 sites total). I am running VOIP across all of these with no QOS issues or drops Service has been excellent. From: chipsh...@comcast.net [mailto:chipsh...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: MPLS We have three satellite offices in two states connected to our main office via point to point T1s. Each office has their own dedicated Internet connection. All data and email is centralized in our main office with each satellite office having their own phone switch. We use VOIP for inter office communication and voice mail. We do not do video conferencing yet but do make use of VPN and remote desktop services for folks working remotely. I have several vendors pushing me hard for changing all our circuits over to MPLS. It seems that the price of doing this may be more than what everything currently costs now. I have also looked into leaving the P2P Ts as they are but switching most of our dedicated Internet connections to Comcast Business cable. Doing this would multiply my Internet bandwidth by a factor of 6 but cut my monthly costs at our main office by more than 75%. I've read up on MPLS and it seems that the QOS is indeed better but it also sometimes has packet loss issues. I'd appreciate any opinions on the switch to MPLS and any hands on experience stories that you'd be willing to share. Thanks. Steve ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Lotus Notes
rant rem I had just finished a major Lotus Nots client issue when your message hit my Inbox. /rem I don't know about 6.5; we're a 7.0.2 shop. I do know that it is all too easy to break things! Our phone system needs a Lotus Nots client (since we're a Lotus Nots shop) to process and deliver voice mail messages. It crapped out on us early this morning, so 3 voice mail messages were not delivered. LOTS of work getting the message information out to the appropriate people in a timely manner! Not that easy to to re-install the Nots client when it breaks that way, either. /rant In a full Domino shop, v7, in the client, one can click the big blue tab at the top of the mail window (below all the menus, tabs, etc) and choose to open their calendar, or Open another person's mail. If mail account permissions are set correctly, one can open all the mailboxes on the other accounts. One might be able to do this (again, we're not 6.5) by using the top menus, File - Database - Open and browse to the mailboxes on the server. Of coarse, this only works if the mailboxes are on the server, and that each persons Nots session reads (rather than download-and-delete) from the server. Don't know if this would work for you or not. Also wondering why one would use a Nots client in an Exchange environment (but I'm sure you'd like to see the end of this - probably something you inherited.) -- Richard D. McClary Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group ASPCA® 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richardmccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761 www.aspca.org The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA ®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote on 10/09/2009 09:11:15 AM: We have a Lotus Notes client 6.5(only the client, we run Exchange) that is on 4 machines. At the moment the users can?t view what is in other users ?inbox? on the clients. Is there a way that we can place the client on a server, then place a shortcut to notes.exe on the 4 users desktops and have them view the same ?inbox?? _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Wow
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:39 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: I never realized how easy man-in-the-middle attacks were executed… http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=7303 Specifically: http://isc.sans.org/diaryimages/rdp-mitm-mpg.html This is why I don't run RDP over the public Internet. All RDP traffic is carried over a crypto tunnel implemented by a third-party that actually knows what they're doing when it comes to security. Microsoft's track record here stinks. And even if it didn't, I like the belt-and-suspenders approach of running two different security implementations. It takes two simultaneous exploits to achieve penetration. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Lotus Notes
A client of ours sent us the notes client to use to receive drug results from an MRO (Medical Review Officer). When we place the client on one user's computer, they access the information by logging into the Lotus client. However when we place the same client onto another user's computer, they can't view what was on the first user's computer. So I thought that I would be able to place the lotus client on the server, share the notes folder and then place a shortcut on each user's desktop. When they go to open notes they receive the following error: Unable to access data directory '\\servername\c:\notes\data' using preferences file 'c:\notes\notes.ini'. Any ideas? Or would this be a no go since we don't run Domino? _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Lotus Notes rant rem I had just finished a major Lotus Nots client issue when your message hit my Inbox. /rem I don't know about 6.5; we're a 7.0.2 shop. I do know that it is all too easy to break things! Our phone system needs a Lotus Nots client (since we're a Lotus Nots shop) to process and deliver voice mail messages. It crapped out on us early this morning, so 3 voice mail messages were not delivered. LOTS of work getting the message information out to the appropriate people in a timely manner! Not that easy to to re-install the Nots client when it breaks that way, either. /rant In a full Domino shop, v7, in the client, one can click the big blue tab at the top of the mail window (below all the menus, tabs, etc) and choose to open their calendar, or Open another person's mail. If mail account permissions are set correctly, one can open all the mailboxes on the other accounts. One might be able to do this (again, we're not 6.5) by using the top menus, File - Database - Open and browse to the mailboxes on the server. Of coarse, this only works if the mailboxes are on the server, and that each persons Nots session reads (rather than download-and-delete) from the server. Don't know if this would work for you or not. Also wondering why one would use a Nots client in an Exchange environment (but I'm sure you'd like to see the end of this - probably something you inherited.) -- Richard D. McClary Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group ASPCA(r) 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richardmccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761 www.aspca.org http://www.aspca.org/ The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals(r) (ASPCA(r)) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote on 10/09/2009 09:11:15 AM: We have a Lotus Notes client 6.5(only the client, we run Exchange) that is on 4 machines. At the moment the users can't view what is in other users inbox on the clients. Is there a way that we can place the client on a server, then place a shortcut to notes.exe on the 4 users desktops and have them view the same inbox? _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007
Wow, Thanks Ken. I think you just saved us a bunch of time ...Tim From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 6:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007 If you have a small SharePoint infrastructure it'll probably work OK. If you're looking at a more enterprise level setup, then here's a few things I ran into... a) DPM requires LocalSystem to be sysadmin in the SQL Server instance that SharePoint is installed into. That's for the SQL Server VSS writer to be able to enumerate databases. It also requires DataReader permissions in every other SQL Server instance on the machine (or cluster node). That's a violation of Microsoft's best practise guides for securing SQL Server. If you have the same people administering SQL Server as you have for Windows, then probably not so much of an issue. If you have separate teams, then the DBAs will probably not be happy b) DPM agent can only be installed on a single SharePoint WFE at a time. So you build a highly available MOSS installation with multiple WFEs, clustered SQL Server etc, but your backup solution falls over because one crucial WFE is offline c) DPM restoration requires a separate, standalone, MOSS installation. To restore anything less granular than a single database (e.g. a site or document or list), DPM copies the entire content database to this standalone MOSS installation, then uses SharePoint APIs to extract the necessary documents into a backup file, then copies that to your Production MOSS installation, and then imports it. So, you are paying for extra MOSS license. d) The Site Collection template of the site you are restoring must match the site collection that you are restoring into. But you can't see what those site collection templates are from within DPM. e) If DPM is performing a backup, you can't do a restore without cancelling the in progress backup. However in my experience the actual backup can take a long time (in the order of many hours) if the WFE that you have your DPM agent on is busy (e.g. participating in crawling content). DPM backups will also fail if the SQL Server is heavily loaded (e.g. backups of SQL Server or other maintenance operations are in progress) f) If you remove a content database, you need to take an entire baseline replica again and start taking new snapshots. This can start to blow out your DPM storage requirements if you frequently add/remove content databases g) DPM backs up in a couple of ways - it backs up the databases directly from the SQL Server via VSS, and then gets a catalogue of restorable items from the WFE. If the latter fails, half the time you don't seem to get a decent warning about it. Instead, when you try to restore you find out that you can only restore an entire database. When you attempt to drill down to content, you can't h) Installing DPM relies on a bunch of hotfixes and other stuff to be installed to get it working properly. There's even a DPM hotfix you need to install if you install MOSS Feb 2009 CU, because somehow that MOSS CU stops DPM discovering your MOSS installation as a protectable item. VSS is another thing that seems to require continual patching. Cheers Ken From: Tim Evans [mailto:tev...@sparling.com] Sent: Friday, 9 October 2009 9:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007 Interesting. We are looking at evaluating DPM. Can you elaborate on why you recommend against it? Thanks ...Tim From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 6:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007 AvePoint also have a popular product (DocAve) in addition to the two listed below. I would strongly recommend against DPM 2007. Cheers Ken From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, 9 October 2009 8:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007 Indeed. I can confirm both Veritas NetBackup and CommVault Simpana both have Sharepoint agent document-level capability. We are moving from the former to the latter. -sc From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007 You'll need to have a backup solution that is Sharepoint aware not just SQL aware. Backup Exec has an agent specifically for Sharepoint that will do the document level backup/restore you are asking for. Otherwise, if you just rely on SQL backups, you'll have to restore the entire SQL db to recover, which means everything since the backup is lost. I think most of the major backup software packages have something like BE has now for Sharepoint. A few years ago, that wasn't the case and you had to go with
Re: MPLS
Located in NH in a major metropolitian area. Vendor availability isn't an issue unless the local carrier (Fairpoint) goes belly up. Thanks. - Original Message - From: David Mazzaccaro david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, October 9, 2009 10:04:45 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: MPLS I use PAETEC www.paetec.com for our 9 location (across 6 states) MPLS WAN network. Works very very well, we utilize QoS for VoIP, and have very little problems. PAETEC's account team, and customer service is impeccable. Our main location has a 1.5 MB MPLS connection to PAETEC. Our remote sites have either 512k - 768k - 1.5MB MPLS connections to PAETEC depending on their size. All the remote locations' traffic travels from their site, to PAETEC, then back to my location where all the resources are (servers, internet access) There are no resources at the remote locations, just PCs, printers, a switch, and a router. The run all their applications on our servers (through Citrix), and their phones connect to our PBX via VoIP. Heck, the domain controllers are even in our main location. Hope that helps. PS - Where are you located? This will determine what your options are. From: chipsh...@comcast.net [mailto:chipsh...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: MPLS We have three satellite offices in two states connected to our main office via point to point T1s. Each office has their own dedicated Internet connection. All data and email is centralized in our main office with each satellite office having their own phone switch. We use VOIP for inter office communication and voice mail. We do not do video conferencing yet but do make use of VPN and remote desktop services for folks working remotely. I have several vendors pushing me hard for changing all our circuits over to MPLS. It seems that the price of doing this may be more than what everything currently costs now. I have also looked into leaving the P2P Ts as they are but switching most of our dedicated Internet connections to Comcast Business cable. Doing this would multiply my Internet bandwidth by a factor of 6 but cut my monthly costs at our main office by more than 75%. I've read up on MPLS and it seems that the QOS is indeed better but it also sometimes has packet loss issues. I'd appreciate any opinions on the switch to MPLS and any hands on experience stories that you'd be willing to share. Thanks. Steve ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: NAS/SAN
The Dell Equallogic offerings should serve your needs very well. They have products with redundant everything, and you can get SATA, SAS, and (I forgot the buzz-word for it...) flash-based storage. From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NAS/SAN So, we're working on getting our first big storage appliance here. As the IT Manager it's my job to get quotes, etc. I'm talking to all the big boys out there and getting a lot of good quotes. My requirements are fairly simple: 1) On the order of 5 Terabytes of storage (significantly more than we are using currently.) 2) Redundant everything (disks, controllers, network, power, etc.) That's about it. We are looking, eventually, to bring email in-house, probably using Kerio mail server as it's got the features we need at a price we can live with. The problem is that I'm getting quotes all over the place. The last quote I got was for a QNap ISCSI NAS with 6 1 Tb drives, but it doesn't have the redundancy I'm looking for (no redundant controllers.) I've gotten quotes from vendors for HP, LSI, NetApp, QNap and am working on an Equallogic quote. Anyone else I should be looking at? Our plan is to get two of these for DR/Business Continuity purposes and have one of them at a remote office, and possibly even back the remote one up to tape. :-) Am I being too paranoid? Not enough? Anything else I should be looking at? At first I was really wanting single-instance storage, but the LSI vendor kind of talked me out of that being a requirement. I get a report every night from the current storage detailing all duplicate files, and there aren't that many so I think I can get away with not having de-duplication/single-instance storage. Your thoughts, please? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Comcast Internet (was: MPLS)
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:21 AM, chipsh...@comcast.net wrote: I have also looked into leaving the P2P Ts as they are but switching most of our dedicated Internet connections to Comcast Business cable. I can't comment on MPLS, but I can on Comcast Business/Workplace/whatever. We've got a feed through them. I'd call it cheap, disposable bandwidth. Static IP address. Comcast claims 6 Mbit/sec down, 768 Kbit/sec up. Actual performance varies quite a bit. They also burst higher for initial traffic, then clamp down after 10 or 20 seconds, which makes it difficult to gauge performance. Their SLA isn't worth the bandwidth it takes to download the PDF. in addition to Comcast, we have a more expensive, slower, but more reliable feed from a local ISP. Important stuff -- mail, VPN -- goes through the other feed all the time. We send our outgoing HTTP client traffic through Comcast Comcast goes down on occasion. When that happens, we change everything to our other feed until it gets fixed. Comcast provided CPE that's basically an integrated cable modem, SOHO router, and 4-port Ethernet switch. It appears to be a halfheartedly re-badged SMC8014. (Halfheartedly because the front panel says Comcast, but the top of the case still has a giant SMC molded into the plastic, and the P/N on the bottom sticker is the same.) The CPE came configured to do NAT, and assigned IP addresses via DHCP in the 10.1.10.0/24 subnet on the LAN switch ports. But the static IP address is also configured on the same Ethernet switch. In other words, the LAN side of the integrated router has multiple IP addresses. You can manage the LAN side by going to http://10.1.10.1/ or the router address for the static feed. Default username is cusadmin; default password is highspeed. I recommend changing the password. :) A few times a year, the CPE looses the upstream and needs to be power cycled to work again. I've found sending mail out through Comcast is more likely to get rejected. Some mail hosts apparently simply consider *everything* from a Comcast customer IP address to be spam. (And I'm not sure that's unreasonable.) This is why all outgoing mail goes through the local ISP feed. Comcast's has a separate phone number for business tech support. It's good for some things, not for others. With connectivity problems, unless it is a known widespread issue, they don't seem to be very motivated and/or capable. But when I called to have reverse DNS changed to be a subdomain of our corporate domain, they knew exactly what I was talking about, got the ticket in within ten minutes, and the change made within an hour or two. I recently had a weird DNS issue, where traffic to one of our DNS provider's servers would get dropped. DNS host said it wasn't them. We called Comcast, they said it wasn't them, but then everything magically started working shortly thereafter. DNS host says that's happened to them with Comcast before. I don't know who to believe, there. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: MPLS
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:10 AM, chipsh...@comcast.net wrote: Located in NH in a major metropolitian area. I live in NH. We don't have any major metropolitan areas. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: NAS/SAN
Solid State drive ? From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NAS/SAN The Dell Equallogic offerings should serve your needs very well. They have products with redundant everything, and you can get SATA, SAS, and (I forgot the buzz-word for it...) flash-based storage. From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NAS/SAN So, we're working on getting our first big storage appliance here. As the IT Manager it's my job to get quotes, etc. I'm talking to all the big boys out there and getting a lot of good quotes. My requirements are fairly simple: 1) On the order of 5 Terabytes of storage (significantly more than we are using currently.) 2) Redundant everything (disks, controllers, network, power, etc.) That's about it. We are looking, eventually, to bring email in-house, probably using Kerio mail server as it's got the features we need at a price we can live with. The problem is that I'm getting quotes all over the place. The last quote I got was for a QNap ISCSI NAS with 6 1 Tb drives, but it doesn't have the redundancy I'm looking for (no redundant controllers.) I've gotten quotes from vendors for HP, LSI, NetApp, QNap and am working on an Equallogic quote. Anyone else I should be looking at? Our plan is to get two of these for DR/Business Continuity purposes and have one of them at a remote office, and possibly even back the remote one up to tape. J Am I being too paranoid? Not enough? Anything else I should be looking at? At first I was really wanting single-instance storage, but the LSI vendor kind of talked me out of that being a requirement. I get a report every night from the current storage detailing all duplicate files, and there aren't that many so I think I can get away with not having de-duplication/single-instance storage. Your thoughts, please? This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately via e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake; then, delete this e-mail from your system. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: MPLS
Well hello there neighbor! In that case, I highly recommend you take a serious look at Paetec. From: chipsh...@comcast.net [mailto:chipsh...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MPLS Located in NH in a major metropolitian area. Vendor availability isn't an issue unless the local carrier (Fairpoint) goes belly up. Thanks. - Original Message - From: David Mazzaccaro david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, October 9, 2009 10:04:45 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: MPLS I use PAETEC www.paetec.com http://www.paetec.com/ for our 9 location (across 6 states) MPLS WAN network. Works very very well, we utilize QoS for VoIP, and have very little problems. PAETEC's account team, and customer service is impeccable. Our main location has a 1.5 MB MPLS connection to PAETEC. Our remote sites have either 512k - 768k - 1.5MB MPLS connections to PAETEC depending on their size. All the remote locations' traffic travels from their site, to PAETEC, then back to my location where all the resources are (servers, internet access) There are no resources at the remote locations, just PCs, printers, a switch, and a router. The run all their applications on our servers (through Citrix), and their phones connect to our PBX via VoIP. Heck, the domain controllers are even in our main location. Hope that helps. PS - Where are you located? This will determine what your options are. From: chipsh...@comcast.net [mailto:chipsh...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: MPLS We have three satellite offices in two states connected to our main office via point to point T1s. Each office has their own dedicated Internet connection. All data and email is centralized in our main office with each satellite office having their own phone switch. We use VOIP for inter office communication and voice mail. We do not do video conferencing yet but do make use of VPN and remote desktop services for folks working remotely. I have several vendors pushing me hard for changing all our circuits over to MPLS. It seems that the price of doing this may be more than what everything currently costs now. I have also looked into leaving the P2P Ts as they are but switching most of our dedicated Internet connections to Comcast Business cable. Doing this would multiply my Internet bandwidth by a factor of 6 but cut my monthly costs at our main office by more than 75%. I've read up on MPLS and it seems that the QOS is indeed better but it also sometimes has packet loss issues. I'd appreciate any opinions on the switch to MPLS and any hands on experience stories that you'd be willing to share. Thanks. Steve ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: NAS/SAN
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.com wrote: ... I forgot the buzz-word for it… flash-based storage. SSD. Solid State Drive. FYI: I recently spoke to a Dell rep regarding server and storage offerings. He was trying to sell me an PowerVault MD3000i, which is Dell's entry-level iSCSI box. 15 disk slots, two controller slots. The two-controller variant lists for over $16K on their website. He quoted me $5K. Heavy promotions going on right now, apparently. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Lotus Notes
Since things already don't work... When the client was installed on the machine where it works, a server was specified? How/what are the permissions on the server mailbox? (In other words, what messages were received from the other 3, non-functional, clients?) My quick fix suggestion would be to make sure c:\notes\data is shared (try calling it NotesData). Back up the NOTES.INI file, then edit instances of data. Replace c:\notes\data with NotesData and see what happens. I don't know how Exchange works, but if that account can be set to keep all mail on the server and to allow multiple folks to access it (in Domino, that would be editing the ACL for that account's database), each machine ought to be able to use its own client and read all the folders in that mailbox. Anyway, try the editing of the NOTES.INI file. -- RMc Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote on 10/09/2009 10:06:36 AM: A client of ours sent us the notes client to use to receive drug results from an MRO (Medical Review Officer). When we place the client on one user?s computer, they access the information by logging into the Lotus client. However when we place the same client onto another user?s computer, they can?t view what was on the first user?s computer. So I thought that I would be able to place the lotus client on the server, share the notes folder and then place a shortcut on each user?s desktop. When they go to open notes they receive the following error: Unable to access data directory ?\\servername\c:\notes\data? using preferences file ?c:\notes\notes.ini?. Any ideas? Or would this be a no go since we don?t run Domino? _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Lotus Notes rant rem I had just finished a major Lotus Nots client issue when your message hit my Inbox. /rem I don't know about 6.5; we're a 7.0.2 shop. I do know that it is all too easy to break things! Our phone system needs a Lotus Nots client (since we're a Lotus Nots shop) to process and deliver voice mail messages. It crapped out on us early this morning, so 3 voice mail messages were not delivered. LOTS of work getting the message information out to the appropriate people in a timely manner! Not that easy to to re-install the Nots client when it breaks that way, either. /rant In a full Domino shop, v7, in the client, one can click the big blue tab at the top of the mail window (below all the menus, tabs, etc) and choose to open their calendar, or Open another person's mail. If mail account permissions are set correctly, one can open all the mailboxes on the other accounts. One might be able to do this (again, we're not 6.5) by using the top menus, File - Database - Open and browse to the mailboxes on the server. Of coarse, this only works if the mailboxes are on the server, and that each persons Nots session reads (rather than download-and- delete) from the server. Don't know if this would work for you or not. Also wondering why one would use a Nots client in an Exchange environment (but I'm sure you'd like to see the end of this - probably something you inherited.) -- Richard D. McClary Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group ASPCA® 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richardmccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761 www.aspca.org The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote on 10/09/2009 09:11:15 AM: We have a Lotus Notes client 6.5(only the client, we run Exchange) that is on 4 machines. At the moment the users can?t view what is in other users ?inbox? on the clients. Is there a way that we can place the client on a server, then place a shortcut to notes.exe on the 4 users desktops and have them view the same ?inbox?? _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com ~
RE: Wow
You can simply use TLS to mutually authenticate the client and server: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc782610%28WS.10%29.aspx Then your connection is as secure as your PKI (and Microsoft's crypto-API). Or you can use IPSec. Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 9 October 2009 11:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Wow On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:39 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: I never realized how easy man-in-the-middle attacks were executed... http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=7303 Specifically: http://isc.sans.org/diaryimages/rdp-mitm-mpg.html This is why I don't run RDP over the public Internet. All RDP traffic is carried over a crypto tunnel implemented by a third-party that actually knows what they're doing when it comes to security. Microsoft's track record here stinks. And even if it didn't, I like the belt-and-suspenders approach of running two different security implementations. It takes two simultaneous exploits to achieve penetration. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: NAS/SAN
Everyone is trying to jumpstart the economy... :) -*ASB*: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker Providing Competitive Advantage through Effective IT Leadership On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.com wrote: ... I forgot the buzz-word for it… flash-based storage. SSD. Solid State Drive. FYI: I recently spoke to a Dell rep regarding server and storage offerings. He was trying to sell me an PowerVault MD3000i, which is Dell's entry-level iSCSI box. 15 disk slots, two controller slots. The two-controller variant lists for over $16K on their website. He quoted me $5K. Heavy promotions going on right now, apparently. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: NAS/SAN
The transition from DAS to network storage requires a bit more planning. Left unsaid in your email is if you're also virtualizing your servers. You haven't quantified you're actually using now. IF you want 5 TB and you're using 3 TB now, 5 may not be sufficient. I would also suggest that you need to factor spindle count into your matrix. You don't want' just gobs of storage, you want to maintain throughput as well. Then, given the risks of recovering from a hard disk failure you should also carefully consider the RAID implementations (and disk size) allowed for each type of device. I ended up selecting an EqualLogic unit at 2 TB (8x250GB disks). The performance has been great, but I underestimated how much storage I would actually end up needing. I'm buying another 2 TB next year. Once you have the capability of doing snapshots and you fully virtualize your infrastructure your network storage needs rise dramatically. -Jonathan On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:06 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote: So, we’re working on getting our first big “storage appliance” here. As the IT Manager it’s my job to get quotes, etc. I’m talking to all the “big boys” out there and getting a lot of good quotes. My requirements are fairly simple: 1) On the order of 5 Terabytes of storage (*significantly* more than we are using currently.) 2) Redundant everything (disks, controllers, network, power, etc.) That’s about it. We are looking, eventually, to bring email in-house, probably using Kerio mail server as it’s got the features we need at a price we can live with. The problem is that I’m getting quotes all over the place. The last quote I got was for a QNap ISCSI NAS with 6 1 Tb drives, but it doesn’t have the redundancy I’m looking for (no redundant controllers.) I’ve gotten quotes from vendors for HP, LSI, NetApp, QNap and am working on an Equallogic quote. Anyone else I should be looking at? Our plan is to get two of these for DR/Business Continuity purposes and have one of them at a remote office, and possibly even back the remote one up to tape. J Am I being too paranoid? Not enough? Anything else I should be looking at? At first I was really wanting single-instance storage, but the LSI vendor kind of talked me out of that being a requirement. I get a report every night from the current storage detailing all duplicate files, and there aren’t that many so I think I can get away with not having de-duplication/single-instance storage. Your thoughts, please? [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image002.jpgimage001.jpg
RE: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007
That's not really a DPM limitation per se - it's the way that the SQL Server VSS writer works (i.e. the SQL Server VSS writer runs as LocalSystem). The client I was at had an internal enterprise SQL Server infrastructure whose services that could be purchased by other people within the company. Depending on the application it might have its own instance. Each instance ran as its own service account, and LocalSystem is not permitted access to SQL Server (to prevent Windows administrators being able to get access to database content). This is per Microsoft's guidance on building shared SQL Server infrastructure. Unfortunately, it doesn't help DPM backup SQL Server databases. Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 9 October 2009 10:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup/Restore best practices for Sharepoint 2007 On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: If you're looking at a more enterprise level setup, then here's a few things I ran into... Yikes! Thanks for that info. /me crosses DPM off my list of backup solutions to evaluate for next year's server upgrades. I particularly like how Microsoft's own backup solution doesn't comply with Microsoft's own best practices recommendations for their own database solution. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: NAS/SAN
Ok, I just got off the phone with a StoneFly sales engineer.He had some interesting things to say about EMC/Dell/Equallogic/NetApp and LSI. I need some fact-checking from people who know more than I about this sort of thing. he said that those are dumb ISCSI devices that can't handle a lot of connections at once and that I ought to buy their product because that hardware can handle a lot more connections and a lot higher throughput than the competition. Was he just blowing smoke up my rear or is that stuff true? Thanks! John-AldrichTile-Tools ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: NAS/SAN
I have an HP EVA 4000 with about 2.5Tb of space with room to grow, it uses
fiber drives. I'm using VMWare 3.5 in the midst of upgrading to VSphere 4. I
have had it for about 9 months and I'm very happy.
I'm also in the midst of adding another HP ML 370 G5 server with about 3Tb
worth of SAS drives for DR across the street in my DR server room. I'm planning
of using double Take for the synchronization.
I'm also using an older GL 370 G5 server with another 6 * 300Bm SAS drives for
slower (not super critical data, like pictures etc.)
I think the most important thing about setting up system like this is to have a
consultant that is very familiar with the equipment!
___
Stefan Jafs
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN
That's it! SSD was the acronym. I kept thinking of superconducting super
collider...
From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com]
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN
Solid State drive ?
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN
The Dell Equallogic offerings should serve your needs very well. They have
products with redundant everything, and you can get SATA, SAS, and (I forgot
the buzz-word for it...) flash-based storage.
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: NAS/SAN
So, we're working on getting our first big storage appliance here. As the IT
Manager it's my job to get quotes, etc. I'm talking to all the big boys out
there and getting a lot of good quotes. My requirements are fairly simple:
1) On the order of 5 Terabytes of storage (significantly more than we are
using currently.)
2) Redundant everything (disks, controllers, network, power, etc.)
That's about it. We are looking, eventually, to bring email in-house, probably
using Kerio mail server as it's got the features we need at a price we can live
with. The problem is that I'm getting quotes all over the place. The last quote
I got was for a QNap ISCSI NAS with 6 1 Tb drives, but it doesn't have the
redundancy I'm looking for (no redundant controllers.)
I've gotten quotes from vendors for HP, LSI, NetApp, QNap and am working on an
Equallogic quote. Anyone else I should be looking at? Our plan is to get two of
these for DR/Business Continuity purposes and have one of them at a remote
office, and possibly even back the remote one up to tape. :)
Am I being too paranoid? Not enough? Anything else I should be looking at? At
first I was really wanting single-instance storage, but the LSI vendor kind of
talked me out of that being a requirement. I get a report every night from the
current storage detailing all duplicate files, and there aren't that many so I
think I can get away with not having de-duplication/single-instance storage.
Your thoughts, please?
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RE: NAS/SAN
Sales talk, nothing but! From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NAS/SAN Ok, I just got off the phone with a StoneFly sales engineer...He had some interesting things to say about EMC/Dell/Equallogic/NetApp and LSI. I need some fact-checking from people who know more than I about this sort of thing... he said that those are dumb ISCSI devices that can't handle a lot of connections at once and that I ought to buy their product because that hardware can handle a lot more connections and a lot higher throughput than the competition. Was he just blowing smoke up my rear or is that stuff true? Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Re: NAS/SAN
Do you need a lot of connections? My environment has three physical servers, which are comprised of 2 hosts running 10 virtual servers and 1 server running disk based backup and is a secondary AD controller. All connections to the SAN are through a separate network/switch. I don't want the san exposed except through the servers. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:39 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote: Ok, I just got off the phone with a StoneFly sales engineer…He had some interesting things to say about EMC/Dell/Equallogic/NetApp and LSI. I need some fact-checking from people who know more than I about this sort of thing… he said that those are “dumb” ISCSI devices that can’t handle a lot of connections at once and that I ought to buy their product because that hardware can handle a lot more connections and a lot higher throughput than the competition. Was he just blowing smoke up my rear or is that stuff true? Thanks! [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image002.jpgimage001.jpg
Re: NAS/SAN
That sounds like nonsense to me. Have you looked into Dell/EMCs CX4-120? Its the entry level CX unit that provides both fiber channel and iscsi connectivity via UltraFlex I/O Modules. It supports 4GB/s and 8GB/s Fiber Channel and 1 GB/s and 10GB/s iSCSI. -Sean On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:39 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote: Ok, I just got off the phone with a StoneFly sales engineer…He had some interesting things to say about EMC/Dell/Equallogic/NetApp and LSI. I need some fact-checking from people who know more than I about this sort of thing… he said that those are “dumb” ISCSI devices that can’t handle a lot of connections at once and that I ought to buy their product because that hardware can handle a lot more connections and a lot higher throughput than the competition. Was he just blowing smoke up my rear or is that stuff true? Thanks! [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: NAS/SAN
Well, we're using approximately 150 Gigs of storage now. When you say virtualize the server what do you mean? All I want to do is migrate the storage role off the file servers to a dedicated storage appliance and have a redundant SAN at a remote location. From what I read on the StoneFly website and the gentleman told me, they have that functionality built into their gear. He proposed a RAID 6 + Hot Spare, my guess is probably around 8 disks. As for email, currently it is hosted by our internet provider, who has graciously given me control over my users on their mail server, so I typically limit them to about 20-25 megs, with the exception of a few outside sales people that are up to about 50-75 megs. When we bring email in-house, I'll probably keep those limits similar to what's on the hosted service, except that I might relax things a little to allow up to 100 megs or so. J I do want to redirect my documents for all my users so that it's on the network, in case their PC blows up, but with less than 100 users behind the firewall, I don't see that increasing storage by more than a couple hundred megs per user.. John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NAS/SAN The transition from DAS to network storage requires a bit more planning. Left unsaid in your email is if you're also virtualizing your servers. You haven't quantified you're actually using now. IF you want 5 TB and you're using 3 TB now, 5 may not be sufficient. I would also suggest that you need to factor spindle count into your matrix. You don't want' just gobs of storage, you want to maintain throughput as well. Then, given the risks of recovering from a hard disk failure you should also carefully consider the RAID implementations (and disk size) allowed for each type of device. I ended up selecting an EqualLogic unit at 2 TB (8x250GB disks). The performance has been great, but I underestimated how much storage I would actually end up needing. I'm buying another 2 TB next year. Once you have the capability of doing snapshots and you fully virtualize your infrastructure your network storage needs rise dramatically. -Jonathan On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:06 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: So, we're working on getting our first big storage appliance here. As the IT Manager it's my job to get quotes, etc. I'm talking to all the big boys out there and getting a lot of good quotes. My requirements are fairly simple: 1) On the order of 5 Terabytes of storage (significantly more than we are using currently.) 2) Redundant everything (disks, controllers, network, power, etc.) That's about it. We are looking, eventually, to bring email in-house, probably using Kerio mail server as it's got the features we need at a price we can live with. The problem is that I'm getting quotes all over the place. The last quote I got was for a QNap ISCSI NAS with 6 1 Tb drives, but it doesn't have the redundancy I'm looking for (no redundant controllers.) I've gotten quotes from vendors for HP, LSI, NetApp, QNap and am working on an Equallogic quote. Anyone else I should be looking at? Our plan is to get two of these for DR/Business Continuity purposes and have one of them at a remote office, and possibly even back the remote one up to tape. J Am I being too paranoid? Not enough? Anything else I should be looking at? At first I was really wanting single-instance storage, but the LSI vendor kind of talked me out of that being a requirement. I get a report every night from the current storage detailing all duplicate files, and there aren't that many so I think I can get away with not having de-duplication/single-instance storage. Your thoughts, please? John-AldrichTile-Tools ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: NAS/SAN
No, I probably don't need a *lot* of connections now, although when I bring email in-house I probably will. I plan on sharing the drive space out through the servers, although it's likely they'll be on the same physical switch as the users. John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NAS/SAN Do you need a lot of connections? My environment has three physical servers, which are comprised of 2 hosts running 10 virtual servers and 1 server running disk based backup and is a secondary AD controller. All connections to the SAN are through a separate network/switch. I don't want the san exposed except through the servers. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:39 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Ok, I just got off the phone with a StoneFly sales engineer.He had some interesting things to say about EMC/Dell/Equallogic/NetApp and LSI. I need some fact-checking from people who know more than I about this sort of thing. he said that those are dumb ISCSI devices that can't handle a lot of connections at once and that I ought to buy their product because that hardware can handle a lot more connections and a lot higher throughput than the competition. Was he just blowing smoke up my rear or is that stuff true? Thanks! John-AldrichTile-Tools ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: NAS/SAN
Thanks. That sort of talk made me suspicious that he was blowing smoke, but it seems like a good product, nonetheless, and if it comes in cheaper than the big boys I may go with that, especially since ASB recommends 'em. J John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NAS/SAN That sounds like nonsense to me. Have you looked into Dell/EMCs CX4-120? Its the entry level CX unit that provides both fiber channel and iscsi connectivity via UltraFlex I/O Modules. It supports 4GB/s and 8GB/s Fiber Channel and 1 GB/s and 10GB/s iSCSI. -Sean On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:39 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Ok, I just got off the phone with a StoneFly sales engineer.He had some interesting things to say about EMC/Dell/Equallogic/NetApp and LSI. I need some fact-checking from people who know more than I about this sort of thing. he said that those are dumb ISCSI devices that can't handle a lot of connections at once and that I ought to buy their product because that hardware can handle a lot more connections and a lot higher throughput than the competition. Was he just blowing smoke up my rear or is that stuff true? Thanks! John-AldrichTile-Tools ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Re: NAS/SAN
They all like to point out the deficiencies of their competitors. Just tell him to focus on his products values and get a demo or at least a walk-through. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:56:01 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: NAS/SAN Thanks. That sort of talk made me suspicious that he was blowing smoke, but it seems like a good product, nonetheless, and if it comes in cheaper than the big boys I may go with that, especially since ASB recommends 'em. J John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NAS/SAN That sounds like nonsense to me. Have you looked into Dell/EMCs CX4-120? Its the entry level CX unit that provides both fiber channel and iscsi connectivity via UltraFlex I/O Modules. It supports 4GB/s and 8GB/s Fiber Channel and 1 GB/s and 10GB/s iSCSI. -Sean On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:39 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Ok, I just got off the phone with a StoneFly sales engineer.He had some interesting things to say about EMC/Dell/Equallogic/NetApp and LSI. I need some fact-checking from people who know more than I about this sort of thing. he said that those are dumb ISCSI devices that can't handle a lot of connections at once and that I ought to buy their product because that hardware can handle a lot more connections and a lot higher throughput than the competition. Was he just blowing smoke up my rear or is that stuff true? Thanks! John-AldrichTile-Tools ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Re: NAS/SAN
Even then, those connections will still go through a mail server, and will appear as only one connection to the SAN. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:55 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote: No, I probably don’t need a **lot** of connections now, although when I bring email in-house I probably will. I plan on sharing the drive space out through the servers, although it’s likely they’ll be on the same physical switch as the users. [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools] *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, October 09, 2009 11:50 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: NAS/SAN Do you need a lot of connections? My environment has three physical servers, which are comprised of 2 hosts running 10 virtual servers and 1 server running disk based backup and is a secondary AD controller. All connections to the SAN are through a separate network/switch. I don't want the san exposed except through the servers. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:39 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Ok, I just got off the phone with a StoneFly sales engineer…He had some interesting things to say about EMC/Dell/Equallogic/NetApp and LSI. I need some fact-checking from people who know more than I about this sort of thing… he said that those are “dumb” ISCSI devices that can’t handle a lot of connections at once and that I ought to buy their product because that hardware can handle a lot more connections and a lot higher throughput than the competition. Was he just blowing smoke up my rear or is that stuff true? Thanks! [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image002.jpgimage001.jpg
Re: NAS/SAN
Maybe ask the other guys (Lefthand, Dell, ...) what they think about StoneFly. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 6:01 PM, asbz...@gmail.com wrote: They all like to point out the deficiencies of their competitors. Just tell him to focus on his products values and get a demo or at least a walk-through. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- *From: * John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com *Date: *Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:56:01 -0400 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *RE: NAS/SAN Thanks. That sort of talk made me suspicious that he was blowing smoke, but it seems like a good product, nonetheless, and if it comes in cheaper than the “big boys” I may go with that, especially since ASB recommends ‘em. J [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools] *From:* Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, October 09, 2009 11:52 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: NAS/SAN That sounds like nonsense to me. Have you looked into Dell/EMCs CX4-120? Its the entry level CX unit that provides both fiber channel and iscsi connectivity via UltraFlex I/O Modules. It supports 4GB/s and 8GB/s Fiber Channel and 1 GB/s and 10GB/s iSCSI. -Sean On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:39 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Ok, I just got off the phone with a StoneFly sales engineer…He had some interesting things to say about EMC/Dell/Equallogic/NetApp and LSI. I need some fact-checking from people who know more than I about this sort of thing… he said that those are “dumb” ISCSI devices that can’t handle a lot of connections at once and that I ought to buy their product because that hardware can handle a lot more connections and a lot higher throughput than the competition. Was he just blowing smoke up my rear or is that stuff true? Thanks! [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Re: MPLS
LOL . I guess I should qualify that. I'm located in a section of the state that passes for a major metropolitan area in NH but would be a very small part of a major city like let's say New York. Thanks. I needed a good Friday laugh . - Original Message - From: Ben Scott mailvortex @ gmail .com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin @ lyris .sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, October 9, 2009 11:18:02 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: MPLS On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Chipshead @comcast.net wrote: Located in NH in a major metropolitian area. I live in NH. We don't have any major metropolitan areas. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http :// www . sunbeltsoftware .com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: NAS/SAN
John, Are you primarily looking at providing additional storage to existing servers or are you looking to consolidate your file servers and serve up storage to clients directly from a storage unit? If the latter, it sounds like you want a solution capable serving up CIFS. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:56 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote: Thanks. That sort of talk made me suspicious that he was blowing smoke, but it seems like a good product, nonetheless, and if it comes in cheaper than the “big boys” I may go with that, especially since ASB recommends ‘em. J [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools] *From:* Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, October 09, 2009 11:52 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: NAS/SAN That sounds like nonsense to me. Have you looked into Dell/EMCs CX4-120? Its the entry level CX unit that provides both fiber channel and iscsi connectivity via UltraFlex I/O Modules. It supports 4GB/s and 8GB/s Fiber Channel and 1 GB/s and 10GB/s iSCSI. -Sean On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:39 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Ok, I just got off the phone with a StoneFly sales engineer…He had some interesting things to say about EMC/Dell/Equallogic/NetApp and LSI. I need some fact-checking from people who know more than I about this sort of thing… he said that those are “dumb” ISCSI devices that can’t handle a lot of connections at once and that I ought to buy their product because that hardware can handle a lot more connections and a lot higher throughput than the competition. Was he just blowing smoke up my rear or is that stuff true? Thanks! [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image002.jpgimage001.jpg
Re: NAS/SAN
We put together our SAN as 6TB of SAS, and 14TB of SATA.
We further allocated about 3TB of the SAS for SQL DB storage, and 6TB of the
SATA for VM storage.
Took us a good month of planning to decide how to segment the network and
finalize the architecture. It's been working fine for us, supporting some 8
physical SQL servers and 5 VM host systems (with ~45 VMs between them)
ASB
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From: Stefan Jafs sj...@amico.com
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:40:40
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN
I have an HP EVA 4000 with about 2.5Tb of space with room to grow, it uses
fiber drives. I'm using VMWare 3.5 in the midst of upgrading to VSphere 4. I
have had it for about 9 months and I'm very happy.
I'm also in the midst of adding another HP ML 370 G5 server with about 3Tb
worth of SAS drives for DR across the street in my DR server room. I'm planning
of using double Take for the synchronization.
I'm also using an older GL 370 G5 server with another 6 * 300Bm SAS drives for
slower (not super critical data, like pictures etc.)
I think the most important thing about setting up system like this is to have a
consultant that is very familiar with the equipment!
___
Stefan Jafs
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN
That's it! SSD was the acronym. I kept thinking of superconducting super
collider...
From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com]
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN
Solid State drive ?
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN
The Dell Equallogic offerings should serve your needs very well. They have
products with redundant everything, and you can get SATA, SAS, and (I forgot
the buzz-word for it...) flash-based storage.
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: NAS/SAN
So, we're working on getting our first big storage appliance here. As the IT
Manager it's my job to get quotes, etc. I'm talking to all the big boys out
there and getting a lot of good quotes. My requirements are fairly simple:
1) On the order of 5 Terabytes of storage (significantly more than we are
using currently.)
2) Redundant everything (disks, controllers, network, power, etc.)
That's about it. We are looking, eventually, to bring email in-house, probably
using Kerio mail server as it's got the features we need at a price we can live
with. The problem is that I'm getting quotes all over the place. The last quote
I got was for a QNap ISCSI NAS with 6 1 Tb drives, but it doesn't have the
redundancy I'm looking for (no redundant controllers.)
I've gotten quotes from vendors for HP, LSI, NetApp, QNap and am working on an
Equallogic quote. Anyone else I should be looking at? Our plan is to get two of
these for DR/Business Continuity purposes and have one of them at a remote
office, and possibly even back the remote one up to tape. :)
Am I being too paranoid? Not enough? Anything else I should be looking at? At
first I was really wanting single-instance storage, but the LSI vendor kind of
talked me out of that being a requirement. I get a report every night from the
current storage detailing all duplicate files, and there aren't that many so I
think I can get away with not having de-duplication/single-instance storage.
Your thoughts, please?
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Re: Comcast Internet (was: MPLS)
Thanks for taking the time to post such a comprehensive reply. I used Comcast in our Boston office for about 4 years and really had no complaint with them. The magically started working phrase is something I see a lot of with Verizon. - Original Message - From: Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, October 9, 2009 11:16:18 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Comcast Internet (was: MPLS) On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:21 AM, chipsh...@comcast.net wrote: I have also looked into leaving the P2P Ts as they are but switching most of our dedicated Internet connections to Comcast Business cable. I can't comment on MPLS, but I can on Comcast Business/Workplace/whatever. We've got a feed through them. I'd call it cheap, disposable bandwidth. Static IP address. Comcast claims 6 Mbit/sec down, 768 Kbit/sec up. Actual performance varies quite a bit. They also burst higher for initial traffic, then clamp down after 10 or 20 seconds, which makes it difficult to gauge performance. Their SLA isn't worth the bandwidth it takes to download the PDF. in addition to Comcast, we have a more expensive, slower, but more reliable feed from a local ISP. Important stuff -- mail, VPN -- goes through the other feed all the time. We send our outgoing HTTP client traffic through Comcast Comcast goes down on occasion. When that happens, we change everything to our other feed until it gets fixed. Comcast provided CPE that's basically an integrated cable modem, SOHO router, and 4-port Ethernet switch. It appears to be a halfheartedly re-badged SMC8014. (Halfheartedly because the front panel says Comcast, but the top of the case still has a giant SMC molded into the plastic, and the P/N on the bottom sticker is the same.) The CPE came configured to do NAT, and assigned IP addresses via DHCP in the 10.1.10.0/24 subnet on the LAN switch ports. But the static IP address is also configured on the same Ethernet switch. In other words, the LAN side of the integrated router has multiple IP addresses. You can manage the LAN side by going to http://10.1.10.1/ or the router address for the static feed. Default username is cusadmin; default password is highspeed. I recommend changing the password. :) A few times a year, the CPE looses the upstream and needs to be power cycled to work again. I've found sending mail out through Comcast is more likely to get rejected. Some mail hosts apparently simply consider *everything* from a Comcast customer IP address to be spam. (And I'm not sure that's unreasonable.) This is why all outgoing mail goes through the local ISP feed. Comcast's has a separate phone number for business tech support. It's good for some things, not for others. With connectivity problems, unless it is a known widespread issue, they don't seem to be very motivated and/or capable. But when I called to have reverse DNS changed to be a subdomain of our corporate domain, they knew exactly what I was talking about, got the ticket in within ten minutes, and the change made within an hour or two. I recently had a weird DNS issue, where traffic to one of our DNS provider's servers would get dropped. DNS host said it wasn't them. We called Comcast, they said it wasn't them, but then everything magically started working shortly thereafter. DNS host says that's happened to them with Comcast before. I don't know who to believe, there. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: [ActiveDir] Fwd: REPLMON shows errors, but only in 1 direction ...
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Coleman, Hunter hcole...@mt.gov wrote: As a point of clarification, the replication is always going to be a pull process. It's probably worth testing to see if MJRSWDC001 can pull changes that you make on WDC001/002, and vice-versa. It's entirely possible that MJRSWDC001 inbound replication is fine, but MJRSWDC001 outbound replication is broken or not consistently successful. That, I can do. I just added a new member server to the site that WDC001 is in. When I connect to MJRSWDC001, I do see it listed in it's proper OU. So I am getting some communication between the DCs ... I made a change to the description of that computer account (and another) while connected to MJRSWDC001. I will see if I can then see those changes on WDC001 in a few minutes (I could try and force replication, but I want to see if it works on the normal schedule). It must have *somewhat* worked - REPLMON is showing me only 2 consecutive failures between WDC001 and MJRSWDC001. If you are putting in another DC in the remote site, you can look at replication between the new DC and MJRSWDC001 and see if the new DC gets the same RPC server is unavailable on MJRSWDC001. A good point. I will look at that, too. It's fine to reuse the MDRSWDC001 name if you rebuild that DC. Make sure that the DC demotion process completes cleanly, and give this demotion time to replicate to all of the other DCs. Not a bad idea to look at the metadata cleanup process that you would use in an unsuccessful demotion and verify that everything did in fact get removed. I am familar with it; I had to do it recently in my virtual domain that I maintain on ESX (a copy of my production domains, used for testing). I had to remove all references to non-virtual DCs in the virtual domain. -Original Message- From: activedir-ow...@mail.activedir.org [mailto:activedir-ow...@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Michael Leone Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:49 AM To: active...@mail.activedir.org; NT Admin Mailing List Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Fwd: REPLMON shows errors, but only in 1 direction ... On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Coleman, Hunter hcole...@mt.gov wrote: Who does MJRSWDC001 point to for its primary DNS server? It points to WDC001 (even though it is also a DNS server, it does not point to itself for DNS or WINS). WDC001 is the primary DNS in use by all servers and workstations. If it's pointing to one of the other DCs, and you stop and restart the netlogon service, that will make sure that all of the necessary DNS records get updated on the other DCs. If it's pointed to itself, then switch it to one of the other DCs for the time being. I don't think I can bounce the NETLOGON service during working hours, but I should be able to do that this evening. In changing the IP address on MJRSWDC001, did this also change its site affiliation? No. Site affiliation stayed the same. The only change for this DC was in IP address. More info - we also have WDC002 as a DC. We added this as a replication partner for MJRSWDC001. And now WDC002 is showing the same error during replication, as WDC001 does. (RPC server is unavailable on MJRSWDC001) So it looks like I've narrowed it down to none of the DCs being able to push replication into MJRSWDC001, although I still don't know why . I have IP connectivity; replication does *sometimes* work. I am considering temporarily putting in another DC at that site; demoting MJRSWDC001 back to a member server; rebuilding it from scratch; and then DCPROMO it again. (and gracefully retire the temp DC). Theoretically, that should resolve that part of the problem. Only question is - do I continue to use the name MJRSWDC001 after rebuilding, for fear of some leftover references in AD that might screw things up ? -Original Message- From: activedir-ow...@mail.activedir.org [mailto:activedir-ow...@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Michael Leone Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:10 PM To: active...@mail.activedir.org; NT Admin Mailing List Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Fwd: REPLMON shows errors, but only in 1 direction ... A thought occurred to us - the server MJRSWDC001 recently had it's IP addresses changed (we moved it from one building to another, so it had to changed subnets). I'm wondering if somehow the replication is confused, and is trying to contact MJRSWDC001 using it's old IP address. It shouldn't - I did check forward and reverse DNS, and that server does show it's proper (new) address. Farfetched? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: MPLS
LOL! So true... and dont beleive what any of those ManchVegas hooligans might try to tell you otherwise! -- ME2 On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:10 AM, chipsh...@comcast.net wrote: Located in NH in a major metropolitian area. I live in NH. We don't have any major metropolitan areas. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Lotus Notes
The server is specified in the notes.ini and points to the remote Domino server via internet. As for the permissions on the server, I wouldn't know this since the server is on our clients network and not ours. *update... so in further looking into the issue, I saw that the UNC path was \\servername\e:\notes\data file:///\\servername\e:\notes\data . When I took out the : I was able to connect without any problems. Thanks Richard for your help. _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lotus Notes Since things already don't work... When the client was installed on the machine where it works, a server was specified? How/what are the permissions on the server mailbox? (In other words, what messages were received from the other 3, non-functional, clients?) My quick fix suggestion would be to make sure c:\notes\data is shared (try calling it NotesData). Back up the NOTES.INI file, then edit instances of data. Replace c:\notes\data with NotesData and see what happens. I don't know how Exchange works, but if that account can be set to keep all mail on the server and to allow multiple folks to access it (in Domino, that would be editing the ACL for that account's database), each machine ought to be able to use its own client and read all the folders in that mailbox. Anyway, try the editing of the NOTES.INI file. -- RMc Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote on 10/09/2009 10:06:36 AM: A client of ours sent us the notes client to use to receive drug results from an MRO (Medical Review Officer). When we place the client on one user's computer, they access the information by logging into the Lotus client. However when we place the same client onto another user's computer, they can't view what was on the first user's computer. So I thought that I would be able to place the lotus client on the server, share the notes folder and then place a shortcut on each user's desktop. When they go to open notes they receive the following error: Unable to access data directory '\\servername\c:\notes\data' using preferences file 'c:\notes\notes.ini'. Any ideas? Or would this be a no go since we don't run Domino? _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Lotus Notes rant rem I had just finished a major Lotus Nots client issue when your message hit my Inbox. /rem I don't know about 6.5; we're a 7.0.2 shop. I do know that it is all too easy to break things! Our phone system needs a Lotus Nots client (since we're a Lotus Nots shop) to process and deliver voice mail messages. It crapped out on us early this morning, so 3 voice mail messages were not delivered. LOTS of work getting the message information out to the appropriate people in a timely manner! Not that easy to to re-install the Nots client when it breaks that way, either. /rant In a full Domino shop, v7, in the client, one can click the big blue tab at the top of the mail window (below all the menus, tabs, etc) and choose to open their calendar, or Open another person's mail. If mail account permissions are set correctly, one can open all the mailboxes on the other accounts. One might be able to do this (again, we're not 6.5) by using the top menus, File - Database - Open and browse to the mailboxes on the server. Of coarse, this only works if the mailboxes are on the server, and that each persons Nots session reads (rather than download-and- delete) from the server. Don't know if this would work for you or not. Also wondering why one would use a Nots client in an Exchange environment (but I'm sure you'd like to see the end of this - probably something you inherited.) -- Richard D. McClary Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group ASPCA(r) 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richardmccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761 www.aspca.org The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals(r) (ASPCA(r)) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and
RE: NAS/SAN
That's bullshit. Pure and simple. From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NAS/SAN Sales talk, nothing but! _ From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NAS/SAN Ok, I just got off the phone with a StoneFly sales engineer.He had some interesting things to say about EMC/Dell/Equallogic/NetApp and LSI. I need some fact-checking from people who know more than I about this sort of thing. he said that those are dumb ISCSI devices that can't handle a lot of connections at once and that I ought to buy their product because that hardware can handle a lot more connections and a lot higher throughput than the competition. Was he just blowing smoke up my rear or is that stuff true? Thanks! John-AldrichTile-Tools ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: NAS/SAN
My thought was to do the latter, but serve up the files through the existing file servers using ISCSI as if the file system were on the file server itself. We currently have two Dell PowerEdge servers handling both file/print serving as well as domain control. I want to keep the two servers, but consolidate the storage on a dedicated storage appliance. John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 12:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NAS/SAN John, Are you primarily looking at providing additional storage to existing servers or are you looking to consolidate your file servers and serve up storage to clients directly from a storage unit? If the latter, it sounds like you want a solution capable serving up CIFS. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:56 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Thanks. That sort of talk made me suspicious that he was blowing smoke, but it seems like a good product, nonetheless, and if it comes in cheaper than the big boys I may go with that, especially since ASB recommends 'em. J John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NAS/SAN That sounds like nonsense to me. Have you looked into Dell/EMCs CX4-120? Its the entry level CX unit that provides both fiber channel and iscsi connectivity via UltraFlex I/O Modules. It supports 4GB/s and 8GB/s Fiber Channel and 1 GB/s and 10GB/s iSCSI. -Sean On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:39 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Ok, I just got off the phone with a StoneFly sales engineer.He had some interesting things to say about EMC/Dell/Equallogic/NetApp and LSI. I need some fact-checking from people who know more than I about this sort of thing. he said that those are dumb ISCSI devices that can't handle a lot of connections at once and that I ought to buy their product because that hardware can handle a lot more connections and a lot higher throughput than the competition. Was he just blowing smoke up my rear or is that stuff true? Thanks! John-AldrichTile-Tools ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: NAS/SAN
And honestly, when a vendor spends more time telling me how bad someone elses product is, that's usually when I walk out the door. From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NAS/SAN Thanks. That sort of talk made me suspicious that he was blowing smoke, but it seems like a good product, nonetheless, and if it comes in cheaper than the big boys I may go with that, especially since ASB recommends 'em. J John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NAS/SAN That sounds like nonsense to me. Have you looked into Dell/EMCs CX4-120? Its the entry level CX unit that provides both fiber channel and iscsi connectivity via UltraFlex I/O Modules. It supports 4GB/s and 8GB/s Fiber Channel and 1 GB/s and 10GB/s iSCSI. -Sean On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:39 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Ok, I just got off the phone with a StoneFly sales engineer.He had some interesting things to say about EMC/Dell/Equallogic/NetApp and LSI. I need some fact-checking from people who know more than I about this sort of thing. he said that those are dumb ISCSI devices that can't handle a lot of connections at once and that I ought to buy their product because that hardware can handle a lot more connections and a lot higher throughput than the competition. Was he just blowing smoke up my rear or is that stuff true? Thanks! John-AldrichTile-Tools ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: NAS/SAN
Ive never even heard of them. From: Rene de Haas [mailto:rene.deh...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NAS/SAN Maybe ask the other guys (Lefthand, Dell, ...) what they think about StoneFly. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 6:01 PM, asbz...@gmail.com wrote: They all like to point out the deficiencies of their competitors. Just tell him to focus on his products values and get a demo or at least a walk-through. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _ From: John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:56:01 -0400 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: NAS/SAN Thanks. That sort of talk made me suspicious that he was blowing smoke, but it seems like a good product, nonetheless, and if it comes in cheaper than the big boys I may go with that, especially since ASB recommends 'em. J John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NAS/SAN That sounds like nonsense to me. Have you looked into Dell/EMCs CX4-120? Its the entry level CX unit that provides both fiber channel and iscsi connectivity via UltraFlex I/O Modules. It supports 4GB/s and 8GB/s Fiber Channel and 1 GB/s and 10GB/s iSCSI. -Sean On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:39 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Ok, I just got off the phone with a StoneFly sales engineer.He had some interesting things to say about EMC/Dell/Equallogic/NetApp and LSI. I need some fact-checking from people who know more than I about this sort of thing. he said that those are dumb ISCSI devices that can't handle a lot of connections at once and that I ought to buy their product because that hardware can handle a lot more connections and a lot higher throughput than the competition. Was he just blowing smoke up my rear or is that stuff true? Thanks! John-AldrichTile-Tools ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: NAS/SAN
I would also jump in here and comment that while you say your needs are simple, they may not be in the future. Additionally you will want to take a look at the software offerings of each vendor. I work for a storage vendor myself and I'm not going to pitch you on one, but here is what I will tell you. If you just want a bunch of disk that is redundant, ANYONE will sell you that and you can buy it mega cheap. Open the back pages of PCWorld and you will find a dozen of them waiting for your call. But if you actually want this stuff to work for YOU and ultimately save you time, money, and your data, you need to look at what types of applications these vendors are going to include. What do you use to provision LUNS? How do you do snapshots, backups, replication, manage data like Exchange or SQL, etc? Can they do native deduplication of data? All of this stuff is important and while you may not realize it now, you should. You go buy a big box of disk and you are going to find yourself hitting a brick wall at some point down the way. Understand how each vendor does snapshots and what kind of storage and performance impact it is going to have on your storage device. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NAS/SAN The transition from DAS to network storage requires a bit more planning. Left unsaid in your email is if you're also virtualizing your servers. You haven't quantified you're actually using now. IF you want 5 TB and you're using 3 TB now, 5 may not be sufficient. I would also suggest that you need to factor spindle count into your matrix. You don't want' just gobs of storage, you want to maintain throughput as well. Then, given the risks of recovering from a hard disk failure you should also carefully consider the RAID implementations (and disk size) allowed for each type of device. I ended up selecting an EqualLogic unit at 2 TB (8x250GB disks). The performance has been great, but I underestimated how much storage I would actually end up needing. I'm buying another 2 TB next year. Once you have the capability of doing snapshots and you fully virtualize your infrastructure your network storage needs rise dramatically. -Jonathan On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:06 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: So, we're working on getting our first big storage appliance here. As the IT Manager it's my job to get quotes, etc. I'm talking to all the big boys out there and getting a lot of good quotes. My requirements are fairly simple: 1) On the order of 5 Terabytes of storage (significantly more than we are using currently.) 2) Redundant everything (disks, controllers, network, power, etc.) That's about it. We are looking, eventually, to bring email in-house, probably using Kerio mail server as it's got the features we need at a price we can live with. The problem is that I'm getting quotes all over the place. The last quote I got was for a QNap ISCSI NAS with 6 1 Tb drives, but it doesn't have the redundancy I'm looking for (no redundant controllers.) I've gotten quotes from vendors for HP, LSI, NetApp, QNap and am working on an Equallogic quote. Anyone else I should be looking at? Our plan is to get two of these for DR/Business Continuity purposes and have one of them at a remote office, and possibly even back the remote one up to tape. J Am I being too paranoid? Not enough? Anything else I should be looking at? At first I was really wanting single-instance storage, but the LSI vendor kind of talked me out of that being a requirement. I get a report every night from the current storage detailing all duplicate files, and there aren't that many so I think I can get away with not having de-duplication/single-instance storage. Your thoughts, please? John-AldrichTile-Tools ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: Lotus Notes
WOW! I helped someone fix a Notes problem - They'll never believe that back at NYC HQ! (Hopefully, they'll not find out. I want to go to IBM school to take Domino 8.5 certification classes. They might decide I don't need it.) Thanks for sending that error message - that is what pointed to the UNC problem. Glad to have helped! -- RMc Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote on 10/09/2009 11:36:52 AM: The server is specified in the notes.ini and points to the remote Domino server via internet. As for the permissions on the server, I wouldn?t know this since the server is on our clients network and not ours. *update? so in further looking into the issue, I saw that the UNC path was \\servername\e:\notes\data. When I took out the : I was able to connect without any problems. Thanks Richard for your help. _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lotus Notes Since things already don't work... When the client was installed on the machine where it works, a server was specified? How/what are the permissions on the server mailbox? (In other words, what messages were received from the other 3, non-functional,clients?) My quick fix suggestion would be to make sure c:\notes\data is shared (try calling it NotesData). Back up the NOTES.INI file, then edit instances of data. Replace c:\notes\data with NotesData and see what happens. I don't know how Exchange works, but if that account can be set to keep all mail on the server and to allow multiple folks to access it (in Domino, that would be editing the ACL for that account's database), each machine ought to be able to use its own client and read all the folders in that mailbox. Anyway, try the editing of the NOTES.INI file. -- RMc Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote on 10/09/2009 10:06:36 AM: A client of ours sent us the notes client to use to receive drug results from an MRO (Medical Review Officer). When we place the client on one user?s computer, they access the information by logging into the Lotus client. However when we place the same client onto another user?s computer, they can?t view what was on the first user?s computer. So I thought that I would be able to place the lotus client on the server, share the notes folder and then place a shortcut on each user?s desktop. When they go to open notes they receive the following error: Unable to access data directory ?\\servername\c:\notes\data? using preferences file ?c:\notes\notes.ini?. Any ideas? Or would this be a no go since we don?t run Domino? _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Lotus Notes rant rem I had just finished a major Lotus Nots client issue when your message hit my Inbox. /rem I don't know about 6.5; we're a 7.0.2 shop. I do know that it is all too easy to break things! Our phone system needs a Lotus Nots client (since we're a Lotus Nots shop) to process and deliver voice mail messages. It crapped out on us early this morning, so 3 voice mail messages were not delivered. LOTS of work getting the message information out to the appropriate people in a timely manner! Not that easy to to re-install the Nots client when it breaks that way, either. /rant In a full Domino shop, v7, in the client, one can click the big blue tab at the top of the mail window (below all the menus, tabs, etc) and choose to open their calendar, or Open another person's mail. If mail account permissions are set correctly, one can open all the mailboxes on the other accounts. One might be able to do this (again, we're not 6.5) by using the top menus, File - Database - Open and browse to the mailboxes on the server. Of coarse, this only works if the mailboxes are on the server, and that each persons Nots session reads (rather than download-and- delete) from the server. Don't know if this would work for you or not. Also wondering why one would use a Nots client in an Exchange environment (but I'm sure you'd like to see the end of this - probably something you inherited.) -- Richard D. McClary Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group ASPCA® 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richardmccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761 www.aspca.org The information contained
RE: NAS/SAN
Why? If you have a NAS, put the files on there. The NAS itself should be able to join your AD and appear as any other server. Then just share out the volume via CIFS and go. No need to go the iSCSI LUN route. Overcomplicated.. From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NAS/SAN My thought was to do the latter, but serve up the files through the existing file servers using ISCSI as if the file system were on the file server itself. We currently have two Dell PowerEdge servers handling both file/print serving as well as domain control. I want to keep the two servers, but consolidate the storage on a dedicated storage appliance. John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 12:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NAS/SAN John, Are you primarily looking at providing additional storage to existing servers or are you looking to consolidate your file servers and serve up storage to clients directly from a storage unit? If the latter, it sounds like you want a solution capable serving up CIFS. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:56 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Thanks. That sort of talk made me suspicious that he was blowing smoke, but it seems like a good product, nonetheless, and if it comes in cheaper than the big boys I may go with that, especially since ASB recommends 'em. J John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NAS/SAN That sounds like nonsense to me. Have you looked into Dell/EMCs CX4-120? Its the entry level CX unit that provides both fiber channel and iscsi connectivity via UltraFlex I/O Modules. It supports 4GB/s and 8GB/s Fiber Channel and 1 GB/s and 10GB/s iSCSI. -Sean On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:39 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Ok, I just got off the phone with a StoneFly sales engineer.He had some interesting things to say about EMC/Dell/Equallogic/NetApp and LSI. I need some fact-checking from people who know more than I about this sort of thing. he said that those are dumb ISCSI devices that can't handle a lot of connections at once and that I ought to buy their product because that hardware can handle a lot more connections and a lot higher throughput than the competition. Was he just blowing smoke up my rear or is that stuff true? Thanks! John-AldrichTile-Tools ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: NAS/SAN
BTW, I would talk to NetApp, Equilogic, EMC, maybe Lefthand. And SIS (Dedupe) is worth talking about absolutely. Especially if you ever decide to virtualize. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NAS/SAN I've gotten quotes from vendors for HP, LSI, NetApp, QNap and am working on an Equallogic quote. Anyone else I should be looking at? Our plan is to get two of these for DR/Business Continuity purposes and have one of them at a remote office, and possibly even back the remote one up to tape. J Am I being too paranoid? Not enough? Anything else I should be looking at? At first I was really wanting single-instance storage, but the LSI vendor kind of talked me out of that being a requirement. I get a report every night from the current storage detailing all duplicate files, and there aren't that many so I think I can get away with not having de-duplication/single-instance storage. Your thoughts, please? John-AldrichTile-Tools ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: Lotus Notes
Lol. What are the benefits (if any) of using Domino/Notes over Exchange/Outlook? _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lotus Notes WOW! I helped someone fix a Notes problem - They'll never believe that back at NYC HQ! (Hopefully, they'll not find out. I want to go to IBM school to take Domino 8.5 certification classes. They might decide I don't need it.) Thanks for sending that error message - that is what pointed to the UNC problem. Glad to have helped! -- RMc Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote on 10/09/2009 11:36:52 AM: The server is specified in the notes.ini and points to the remote Domino server via internet. As for the permissions on the server, I wouldn't know this since the server is on our clients network and not ours. *update... so in further looking into the issue, I saw that the UNC path was \\servername\e:\notes\data. When I took out the : I was able to connect without any problems. Thanks Richard for your help. _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lotus Notes Since things already don't work... When the client was installed on the machine where it works, a server was specified? How/what are the permissions on the server mailbox? (In other words, what messages were received from the other 3, non-functional,clients?) My quick fix suggestion would be to make sure c:\notes\data is shared (try calling it NotesData). Back up the NOTES.INI file, then edit instances of data. Replace c:\notes\data with NotesData and see what happens. I don't know how Exchange works, but if that account can be set to keep all mail on the server and to allow multiple folks to access it (in Domino, that would be editing the ACL for that account's database), each machine ought to be able to use its own client and read all the folders in that mailbox. Anyway, try the editing of the NOTES.INI file. -- RMc Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote on 10/09/2009 10:06:36 AM: A client of ours sent us the notes client to use to receive drug results from an MRO (Medical Review Officer). When we place the client on one user's computer, they access the information by logging into the Lotus client. However when we place the same client onto another user's computer, they can't view what was on the first user's computer. So I thought that I would be able to place the lotus client on the server, share the notes folder and then place a shortcut on each user's desktop. When they go to open notes they receive the following error: Unable to access data directory '\\servername\c:\notes\data' using preferences file 'c:\notes\notes.ini'. Any ideas? Or would this be a no go since we don't run Domino? _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Lotus Notes rant rem I had just finished a major Lotus Nots client issue when your message hit my Inbox. /rem I don't know about 6.5; we're a 7.0.2 shop. I do know that it is all too easy to break things! Our phone system needs a Lotus Nots client (since we're a Lotus Nots shop) to process and deliver voice mail messages. It crapped out on us early this morning, so 3 voice mail messages were not delivered. LOTS of work getting the message information out to the appropriate people in a timely manner! Not that easy to to re-install the Nots client when it breaks that way, either. /rant In a full Domino shop, v7, in the client, one can click the big blue tab at the top of the mail window (below all the menus, tabs, etc) and choose to open their calendar, or Open another person's mail. If mail account permissions are set correctly, one can open all the mailboxes on the other accounts. One might be able to do this (again, we're not 6.5) by using the top menus, File - Database - Open and browse to the mailboxes on the server. Of coarse, this only works if the mailboxes are on the server, and that each persons Nots session reads (rather than download-and- delete) from the server. Don't know if
Price of Office 2007 Pro
Maybe call this a jaded Friday for me, but get a load of this. I found this seller on the tubes that is selling full retail box Office 2007 Professional for $165 apiece. Is this an insane number or normal? It costs so much more everywhere else. And today the order arrived in the mail, and it is the real frickin deal, shrinkwrapped real product, hinged plastic case, with the hologrammed COA and discs, it looks damn legit to me. How the heck could this have been so cheap? Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 THIS ELECTRONIC MESSAGE AND ANY ATTACHMENTS ARE CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY PROPERTY OF THE SENDER. THE INFORMATION IS INTENDED FOR USE BY THE ADDRESSEE ONLY. ANY OTHER INTERCEPTION, COPYING, ACCESSING, OR DISCLOSURE OF THIS MESSAGE IS PROHIBITED. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS MESSAGE IN ERROR, PLEASE IMMEDIATELY NOTIFY THE SENDER AND DELETE THIS MAIL AND ALL ATTACHMENTS. DO NOT FORWARD THIS MESSAGE WITHOUT PERMISSION OF THE SENDER. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: NAS/SAN
We don't have either at this point. My understanding is that while there is a large overlap between NAS and SAN, that the SAN still has some features that the NAS does not. Some things like redundancy come to mind right off. Sure they've got RAID, but do they have redundant controllers and redundant Ethernet? The ones I've looked at don't appear to have that. John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 12:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NAS/SAN Why? If you have a NAS, put the files on there. The NAS itself should be able to join your AD and appear as any other server. Then just share out the volume via CIFS and go. No need to go the iSCSI LUN route. Overcomplicated.. From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NAS/SAN My thought was to do the latter, but serve up the files through the existing file servers using ISCSI as if the file system were on the file server itself. We currently have two Dell PowerEdge servers handling both file/print serving as well as domain control. I want to keep the two servers, but consolidate the storage on a dedicated storage appliance. John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 12:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NAS/SAN John, Are you primarily looking at providing additional storage to existing servers or are you looking to consolidate your file servers and serve up storage to clients directly from a storage unit? If the latter, it sounds like you want a solution capable serving up CIFS. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:56 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Thanks. That sort of talk made me suspicious that he was blowing smoke, but it seems like a good product, nonetheless, and if it comes in cheaper than the big boys I may go with that, especially since ASB recommends 'em. J John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NAS/SAN That sounds like nonsense to me. Have you looked into Dell/EMCs CX4-120? Its the entry level CX unit that provides both fiber channel and iscsi connectivity via UltraFlex I/O Modules. It supports 4GB/s and 8GB/s Fiber Channel and 1 GB/s and 10GB/s iSCSI. -Sean On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:39 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Ok, I just got off the phone with a StoneFly sales engineer.He had some interesting things to say about EMC/Dell/Equallogic/NetApp and LSI. I need some fact-checking from people who know more than I about this sort of thing. he said that those are dumb ISCSI devices that can't handle a lot of connections at once and that I ought to buy their product because that hardware can handle a lot more connections and a lot higher throughput than the competition. Was he just blowing smoke up my rear or is that stuff true? Thanks! John-AldrichTile-Tools ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: Price of Office 2007 Pro
Dang... call the Microsoft anti-piracy and see. What is it, 1800rulegit or something like that? -Original Message- From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 12:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Price of Office 2007 Pro Maybe call this a jaded Friday for me, but get a load of this. I found this seller on the tubes that is selling full retail box Office 2007 Professional for $165 apiece. Is this an insane number or normal? It costs so much more everywhere else. And today the order arrived in the mail, and it is the real frickin deal, shrinkwrapped real product, hinged plastic case, with the hologrammed COA and discs, it looks damn legit to me. How the heck could this have been so cheap? Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 THIS ELECTRONIC MESSAGE AND ANY ATTACHMENTS ARE CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY PROPERTY OF THE SENDER. THE INFORMATION IS INTENDED FOR USE BY THE ADDRESSEE ONLY. ANY OTHER INTERCEPTION, COPYING, ACCESSING, OR DISCLOSURE OF THIS MESSAGE IS PROHIBITED. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS MESSAGE IN ERROR, PLEASE IMMEDIATELY NOTIFY THE SENDER AND DELETE THIS MAIL AND ALL ATTACHMENTS. DO NOT FORWARD THIS MESSAGE WITHOUT PERMISSION OF THE SENDER. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Lotus Notes
It makes it more likely you'll always have a good supply of Preparation-H available... Seriously, NYC (corporate HQ) was originally a Novell shop, and they needed something more robust and (hopefully) secure than SMTP/POP. Exchange was still in its very early stages. Once the concrete sets around your ankles, it's hard to move (although we have and shall continue to investigate making the move to Exchange. Lack of resources is about the only thing holding us back). -- RMc Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote on 10/09/2009 11:55:08 AM: Lol. What are the benefits (if any) of using Domino/Notes over Exchange/Outlook? _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lotus Notes WOW! I helped someone fix a Notes problem - They'll never believe that back at NYC HQ! (Hopefully, they'll not find out. I want to go to IBM school to take Domino 8.5 certification classes. They might decide I don't need it.) Thanks for sending that error message - that is what pointed to the UNC problem. Glad to have helped! -- RMc Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote on 10/09/2009 11:36:52 AM: The server is specified in the notes.ini and points to the remote Domino server via internet. As for the permissions on the server, I wouldn?t know this since the server is on our clients network and not ours. *update? so in further looking into the issue, I saw that the UNC path was \\servername\e:\notes\data. When I took out the : I was able to connect without any problems. Thanks Richard for your help. _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lotus Notes Since things already don't work... When the client was installed on the machine where it works, a server was specified? How/what are the permissions on the server mailbox? (In other words, what messages were received from the other 3, non- functional,clients?) My quick fix suggestion would be to make sure c:\notes\data is shared (try calling it NotesData). Back up the NOTES.INI file, then edit instances of data. Replace c:\notes\data with NotesData and see what happens. I don't know how Exchange works, but if that account can be set to keep all mail on the server and to allow multiple folks to access it (in Domino, that would be editing the ACL for that account's database), each machine ought to be able to use its own client and read all the folders in that mailbox. Anyway, try the editing of the NOTES.INI file. -- RMc Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote on 10/09/2009 10:06:36 AM: A client of ours sent us the notes client to use to receive drug results from an MRO (Medical Review Officer). When we place the client on one user?s computer, they access the information by logging into the Lotus client. However when we place the same client onto another user?s computer, they can?t view what was on the first user?s computer. So I thought that I would be able to place the lotus client on the server, share the notes folder and then place a shortcut on each user?s desktop. When they go to open notes they receive the following error: Unable to access data directory ?\\servername\c:\notes\data? using preferences file ?c:\notes\notes.ini?. Any ideas? Or would this be a no go since we don?t run Domino? _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Lotus Notes rant rem I had just finished a major Lotus Nots client issue when your message hit my Inbox. /rem I don't know about 6.5; we're a 7.0.2 shop. I do know that it is all too easy to break things! Our phone system needs a Lotus Nots client (since we're a Lotus Nots shop) to process and deliver voice mail messages. It crapped out on us early this morning, so 3 voice mail messages were not delivered. LOTS of work getting the message information out to the appropriate people in a timely manner! Not that easy to to re-install the Nots client when it breaks that way, either. /rant In a full Domino shop, v7, in the
RE: Price of Office 2007 Pro
http://www.microsoft.com/howtotell/office/default.aspx?displaylang=en -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 1:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Price of Office 2007 Pro Dang... call the Microsoft anti-piracy and see. What is it, 1800rulegit or something like that? -Original Message- From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 12:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Price of Office 2007 Pro Maybe call this a jaded Friday for me, but get a load of this. I found this seller on the tubes that is selling full retail box Office 2007 Professional for $165 apiece. Is this an insane number or normal? It costs so much more everywhere else. And today the order arrived in the mail, and it is the real frickin deal, shrinkwrapped real product, hinged plastic case, with the hologrammed COA and discs, it looks damn legit to me. How the heck could this have been so cheap? Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 THIS ELECTRONIC MESSAGE AND ANY ATTACHMENTS ARE CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY PROPERTY OF THE SENDER. THE INFORMATION IS INTENDED FOR USE BY THE ADDRESSEE ONLY. ANY OTHER INTERCEPTION, COPYING, ACCESSING, OR DISCLOSURE OF THIS MESSAGE IS PROHIBITED. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS MESSAGE IN ERROR, PLEASE IMMEDIATELY NOTIFY THE SENDER AND DELETE THIS MAIL AND ALL ATTACHMENTS. DO NOT FORWARD THIS MESSAGE WITHOUT PERMISSION OF THE SENDER. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Price of Office 2007 Pro
Oh, and if it turns out to be legit, let us all know where to get it. :-) At a previous employer we bought a bunch of copies of Office that all came in paper sleeves, and all had the same registration code, but the disks all had the hologram. Don't know. Not my problem any more. :-) -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 1:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Price of Office 2007 Pro Dang... call the Microsoft anti-piracy and see. What is it, 1800rulegit or something like that? -Original Message- From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 12:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Price of Office 2007 Pro Maybe call this a jaded Friday for me, but get a load of this. I found this seller on the tubes that is selling full retail box Office 2007 Professional for $165 apiece. Is this an insane number or normal? It costs so much more everywhere else. And today the order arrived in the mail, and it is the real frickin deal, shrinkwrapped real product, hinged plastic case, with the hologrammed COA and discs, it looks damn legit to me. How the heck could this have been so cheap? Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 THIS ELECTRONIC MESSAGE AND ANY ATTACHMENTS ARE CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY PROPERTY OF THE SENDER. THE INFORMATION IS INTENDED FOR USE BY THE ADDRESSEE ONLY. ANY OTHER INTERCEPTION, COPYING, ACCESSING, OR DISCLOSURE OF THIS MESSAGE IS PROHIBITED. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS MESSAGE IN ERROR, PLEASE IMMEDIATELY NOTIFY THE SENDER AND DELETE THIS MAIL AND ALL ATTACHMENTS. DO NOT FORWARD THIS MESSAGE WITHOUT PERMISSION OF THE SENDER. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Price of Office 2007 Pro
Not 100 percent certain but that sounds like less than our EDU price. -Original Message- From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 12:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Price of Office 2007 Pro Maybe call this a jaded Friday for me, but get a load of this. I found this seller on the tubes that is selling full retail box Office 2007 Professional for $165 apiece. Is this an insane number or normal? It costs so much more everywhere else. And today the order arrived in the mail, and it is the real frickin deal, shrinkwrapped real product, hinged plastic case, with the hologrammed COA and discs, it looks damn legit to me. How the heck could this have been so cheap? Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 THIS ELECTRONIC MESSAGE AND ANY ATTACHMENTS ARE CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY PROPERTY OF THE SENDER. THE INFORMATION IS INTENDED FOR USE BY THE ADDRESSEE ONLY. ANY OTHER INTERCEPTION, COPYING, ACCESSING, OR DISCLOSURE OF THIS MESSAGE IS PROHIBITED. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS MESSAGE IN ERROR, PLEASE IMMEDIATELY NOTIFY THE SENDER AND DELETE THIS MAIL AND ALL ATTACHMENTS. DO NOT FORWARD THIS MESSAGE WITHOUT PERMISSION OF THE SENDER. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Price of Office 2007 Pro
Happen to get Smithsonian? There's an article about counterfeit malaria medication (consisting mostly of flour). The frightening thing is, those packages were nicely bubble-packed, stamped, shrink-wrapped, and had holograms which were pretty hard to tell from the genuine (and theraputic) article. -- RMc Phillip Partipilo p...@psnet.com wrote on 10/09/2009 11:56:48 AM: Maybe call this a jaded Friday for me, but get a load of this. I found this seller on the tubes that is selling full retail box Office 2007 Professional for $165 apiece. Is this an insane number or normal? It costs so much more everywhere else. And today the order arrived in the mail, and it is the real frickin deal, shrinkwrapped real product, hinged plastic case, with the hologrammed COA and discs, it looks damn legit to me. How the heck could this have been so cheap? Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 THIS ELECTRONIC MESSAGE AND ANY ATTACHMENTS ARE CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY PROPERTY OF THE SENDER. THE INFORMATION IS INTENDED FOR USE BY THE ADDRESSEE ONLY. ANY OTHER INTERCEPTION, COPYING, ACCESSING, OR DISCLOSURE OF THIS MESSAGE IS PROHIBITED. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS MESSAGE IN ERROR, PLEASE IMMEDIATELY NOTIFY THE SENDER AND DELETE THIS MAIL AND ALL ATTACHMENTS. DO NOT FORWARD THIS MESSAGE WITHOUT PERMISSION OF THE SENDER. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Price of Office 2007 Pro
Could be someone buying through an employee purchase program or something similar and then illegally reselling it to make some quick cash. It would still be pirated software though, even in original shrink wrap. Tim -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 12:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Price of Office 2007 Pro Not 100 percent certain but that sounds like less than our EDU price. -Original Message- From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 12:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Price of Office 2007 Pro Maybe call this a jaded Friday for me, but get a load of this. I found this seller on the tubes that is selling full retail box Office 2007 Professional for $165 apiece. Is this an insane number or normal? It costs so much more everywhere else. And today the order arrived in the mail, and it is the real frickin deal, shrinkwrapped real product, hinged plastic case, with the hologrammed COA and discs, it looks damn legit to me. How the heck could this have been so cheap? Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 THIS ELECTRONIC MESSAGE AND ANY ATTACHMENTS ARE CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY PROPERTY OF THE SENDER. THE INFORMATION IS INTENDED FOR USE BY THE ADDRESSEE ONLY. ANY OTHER INTERCEPTION, COPYING, ACCESSING, OR DISCLOSURE OF THIS MESSAGE IS PROHIBITED. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS MESSAGE IN ERROR, PLEASE IMMEDIATELY NOTIFY THE SENDER AND DELETE THIS MAIL AND ALL ATTACHMENTS. DO NOT FORWARD THIS MESSAGE WITHOUT PERMISSION OF THE SENDER. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Price of Office 2007 Pro
Academic pricing? Or some other discounted pricing/licensing SKU used in a way MS didn't intend. Send a link to this. My bet is that it's not a major known outlet. Not that they are the worst, but licensing from MS is such a pathetic convoluted mess anyway. And they know it. http://www.itpro.co.uk/615901/ballmer-dont-expect-simpler-licensing-soon Oh, did you install it yet? Did it even ask for a key or to activate? :) -- Mike Gill -Original Message- From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Price of Office 2007 Pro Maybe call this a jaded Friday for me, but get a load of this. I found this seller on the tubes that is selling full retail box Office 2007 Professional for $165 apiece. Is this an insane number or normal? It costs so much more everywhere else. And today the order arrived in the mail, and it is the real frickin deal, shrinkwrapped real product, hinged plastic case, with the hologrammed COA and discs, it looks damn legit to me. How the heck could this have been so cheap? Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 THIS ELECTRONIC MESSAGE AND ANY ATTACHMENTS ARE CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY PROPERTY OF THE SENDER. THE INFORMATION IS INTENDED FOR USE BY THE ADDRESSEE ONLY. ANY OTHER INTERCEPTION, COPYING, ACCESSING, OR DISCLOSURE OF THIS MESSAGE IS PROHIBITED. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS MESSAGE IN ERROR, PLEASE IMMEDIATELY NOTIFY THE SENDER AND DELETE THIS MAIL AND ALL ATTACHMENTS. DO NOT FORWARD THIS MESSAGE WITHOUT PERMISSION OF THE SENDER. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Price of Office 2007 Pro
I just googled Office 2007 Professional and got:Top sponsored link www.softdealworld.com who are selling it for £79 And if that wasn't cheap enough, http://www.software4students.co.uk/Microsoft_Office_Professional_Plus_2007-details.aspxhave it for £44! And if that wasn't cheap enough, Enterprise version for £35 http://www.software4students.co.uk/Microsoft_Office_Enterprise_2007-details.aspx http://www.software4students.co.uk/Microsoft_Office_Enterprise_2007-details.aspxThere can be no way on God's green earth that they are legitimate. Can there? 2009/10/9 Richard Stovall richard.stov...@researchdata.com http://www.microsoft.com/howtotell/office/default.aspx?displaylang=en -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 1:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Price of Office 2007 Pro Dang... call the Microsoft anti-piracy and see. What is it, 1800rulegit or something like that? -Original Message- From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 12:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Price of Office 2007 Pro Maybe call this a jaded Friday for me, but get a load of this. I found this seller on the tubes that is selling full retail box Office 2007 Professional for $165 apiece. Is this an insane number or normal? It costs so much more everywhere else. And today the order arrived in the mail, and it is the real frickin deal, shrinkwrapped real product, hinged plastic case, with the hologrammed COA and discs, it looks damn legit to me. How the heck could this have been so cheap? Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 THIS ELECTRONIC MESSAGE AND ANY ATTACHMENTS ARE CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY PROPERTY OF THE SENDER. THE INFORMATION IS INTENDED FOR USE BY THE ADDRESSEE ONLY. ANY OTHER INTERCEPTION, COPYING, ACCESSING, OR DISCLOSURE OF THIS MESSAGE IS PROHIBITED. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS MESSAGE IN ERROR, PLEASE IMMEDIATELY NOTIFY THE SENDER AND DELETE THIS MAIL AND ALL ATTACHMENTS. DO NOT FORWARD THIS MESSAGE WITHOUT PERMISSION OF THE SENDER. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Lotus Notes
Virtually none. However, if you have a lot of Notes apps, it makes it harder to move to Exchange Ronald Wulff Jr 412.288.3601 rwu...@reedsmith.com Reed Smith LLP 20 Stanwix St Suite 1200 Pittsburgh, PA 15222 From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 12:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lotus Notes Lol. What are the benefits (if any) of using Domino/Notes over Exchange/Outlook? _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lotus Notes WOW! I helped someone fix a Notes problem - They'll never believe that back at NYC HQ! (Hopefully, they'll not find out. I want to go to IBM school to take Domino 8.5 certification classes. They might decide I don't need it.) Thanks for sending that error message - that is what pointed to the UNC problem. Glad to have helped! -- RMc Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote on 10/09/2009 11:36:52 AM: The server is specified in the notes.ini and points to the remote Domino server via internet. As for the permissions on the server, I wouldn't know this since the server is on our clients network and not ours. *update... so in further looking into the issue, I saw that the UNC path was \\servername\e:\notes\data. When I took out the : I was able to connect without any problems. Thanks Richard for your help. _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lotus Notes Since things already don't work... When the client was installed on the machine where it works, a server was specified? How/what are the permissions on the server mailbox? (In other words, what messages were received from the other 3, non-functional,clients?) My quick fix suggestion would be to make sure c:\notes\data is shared (try calling it NotesData). Back up the NOTES.INI file, then edit instances of data. Replace c:\notes\data with NotesData and see what happens. I don't know how Exchange works, but if that account can be set to keep all mail on the server and to allow multiple folks to access it (in Domino, that would be editing the ACL for that account's database), each machine ought to be able to use its own client and read all the folders in that mailbox. Anyway, try the editing of the NOTES.INI file. -- RMc Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote on 10/09/2009 10:06:36 AM: A client of ours sent us the notes client to use to receive drug results from an MRO (Medical Review Officer). When we place the client on one user's computer, they access the information by logging into the Lotus client. However when we place the same client onto another user's computer, they can't view what was on the first user's computer. So I thought that I would be able to place the lotus client on the server, share the notes folder and then place a shortcut on each user's desktop. When they go to open notes they receive the following error: Unable to access data directory '\\servername\c:\notes\data' using preferences file 'c:\notes\notes.ini'. Any ideas? Or would this be a no go since we don't run Domino? _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Lotus Notes rant rem I had just finished a major Lotus Nots client issue when your message hit my Inbox. /rem I don't know about 6.5; we're a 7.0.2 shop. I do know that it is all too easy to break things! Our phone system needs a Lotus Nots client (since we're a Lotus Nots shop) to process and deliver voice mail messages. It crapped out on us early this morning, so 3 voice mail messages were not delivered. LOTS of work getting the message information out to the appropriate people in a timely manner! Not that easy to to re-install the Nots client when it breaks that way, either. /rant In a full Domino shop, v7, in the client, one can click the big blue tab at the top of the mail window (below all the menus, tabs, etc) and choose to open their calendar, or Open another person's mail. If mail account permissions are set correctly, one can open all the mailboxes on the other
RE: Price of Office 2007 Pro
The home use program disc boxes I've seen were plastered all over with verbiage to that effect. They also don't have that obscenely-difficult-to-open hinged plastic case. (Or is that part just me?) -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 1:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Price of Office 2007 Pro Could be someone buying through an employee purchase program or something similar and then illegally reselling it to make some quick cash. It would still be pirated software though, even in original shrink wrap. Tim -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 12:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Price of Office 2007 Pro Not 100 percent certain but that sounds like less than our EDU price. -Original Message- From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 12:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Price of Office 2007 Pro Maybe call this a jaded Friday for me, but get a load of this. I found this seller on the tubes that is selling full retail box Office 2007 Professional for $165 apiece. Is this an insane number or normal? It costs so much more everywhere else. And today the order arrived in the mail, and it is the real frickin deal, shrinkwrapped real product, hinged plastic case, with the hologrammed COA and discs, it looks damn legit to me. How the heck could this have been so cheap? Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 THIS ELECTRONIC MESSAGE AND ANY ATTACHMENTS ARE CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY PROPERTY OF THE SENDER. THE INFORMATION IS INTENDED FOR USE BY THE ADDRESSEE ONLY. ANY OTHER INTERCEPTION, COPYING, ACCESSING, OR DISCLOSURE OF THIS MESSAGE IS PROHIBITED. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS MESSAGE IN ERROR, PLEASE IMMEDIATELY NOTIFY THE SENDER AND DELETE THIS MAIL AND ALL ATTACHMENTS. DO NOT FORWARD THIS MESSAGE WITHOUT PERMISSION OF THE SENDER. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Lotus Notes
You'll never be at a loss for things the users complain about! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud From: Cameron Cooper To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Fri Oct 09 12:55:08 2009 Subject: RE: Lotus Notes Lol. What are the benefits (if any) of using Domino/Notes over Exchange/Outlook? _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.commailto:ccoo...@aurico.com From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lotus Notes WOW! I helped someone fix a Notes problem - They'll never believe that back at NYC HQ! (Hopefully, they'll not find out. I want to go to IBM school to take Domino 8.5 certification classes. They might decide I don't need it.) Thanks for sending that error message - that is what pointed to the UNC problem. Glad to have helped! -- RMc Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote on 10/09/2009 11:36:52 AM: The server is specified in the notes.ini and points to the remote Domino server via internet. As for the permissions on the server, I woul�t know this since the server is on our clients network and not ours. *update��� so in further looking into the issue, I saw that the UNC path was \\servername\e:\notes\data. When I took out the : I was able to connect without any problems. Thanks Richard for your help. _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lotus Notes Since things already don't work... When the client was installed on the machine where it works, a server was specified? How/what are the permissions on the server mailbox? (In other words, what messages were received from the other 3, non-functional,clients?) My quick fix suggestion would be to make sure c:\notes\data is shared (try calling it NotesData). Back up the NOTES.INI file, then edit instances of data. Replace c:\notes\data with NotesData and see what happens. I don't know how Exchange works, but if that account can be set to keep all mail on the server and to allow multiple folks to access it (in Domino, that would be editing the ACL for that account's database), each machine ought to be able to use its own client and read all the folders in that mailbox. Anyway, try the editing of the NOTES.INI file. -- RMc Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote on 10/09/2009 10:06:36 AM: A client of ours sent us the notes client to use to receive drug results from an MRO (Medical Review Officer). When we place the client on one user���s computer, they access the information by logging into the Lotus client. However when we place the same client onto another us�s computer, they cat view what was on the first user���s computer. So I thought that I would be able to place the lotus client on the server, share the notes folder and then place a shortcut on each user���s desktop. When they go to open notes they receive the following error: Unable to access data directory \\servername\c:\notes\data��� using preferences file ���c:\notes\notes.ini���. Any ideas? Or would this be a no go since we dot run Domino? _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Lotus Notes rant rem I had just finished a major Lotus Nots client issue when your message hit my Inbox. /rem I don't know about 6.5; we're a 7.0.2 shop. I do know that it is all too easy to break things! Our phone system needs a Lotus Nots client (since we're a Lotus Nots shop) to process and deliver voice mail messages. It crapped out on us early this morning, so 3 voice mail messages were not delivered. LOTS of work getting the message information out to the appropriate people in a timely manner! Not that easy to to re-install the Nots client when it breaks that way, either. /rant In a full Domino shop, v7, in the client, one can click the big blue tab at the top of the mail window (below all the menus, tabs, etc) and choose to open their calendar, or Open another person's mail. If mail account permissions are set correctly, one can open all the mailboxes on the other accounts. One might be able to do this (again, we're not 6.5) by using the top menus, File - Database - Open and browse to the
RE: Lotus Notes
Thas what I have heard thru this list and others. Think we���ll stay with exchange. _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 12:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Lotus Notes You'll never be at a loss for things the users complain about! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud From: Cameron Cooper To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Fri Oct 09 12:55:08 2009 Subject: RE: Lotus Notes Lol. What are the benefits (if any) of using Domino/Notes over Exchange/Outlook? _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lotus Notes WOW! I helped someone fix a Notes problem - They'll never believe that back at NYC HQ! (Hopefully, they'll not find out. I want to go to IBM school to take Domino 8.5 certification classes. They might decide I don't need it.) Thanks for sending that error message - that is what pointed to the UNC problem. Glad to have helped! -- RMc Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote on 10/09/2009 11:36:52 AM: The server is specified in the notes.ini and points to the remote Domino server via internet. As for the permissions on the server, I wouldnt know this since the server is on our clients network and not ours. *upda so in further looking into the issue, I saw that the UNC path was \\servername\e:\notes\data. When I took out the : I was able to connect without any problems. Thanks Richard for your help. _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lotus Notes Since things already don't work... When the client was installed on the machine where it works, a server was specified? How/what are the permissions on the server mailbox? (In other words, what messages were received from the other 3, non-functional,clients?) My quick fix suggestion would be to make sure c:\notes\data is shared (try calling it NotesData). Back up the NOTES.INI file, then edit instances of data. Replace c:\notes\data with NotesData and see what happens. I don't know how Exchange works, but if that account can be set to keep all mail on the server and to allow multiple folks to access it (in Domino, that would be editing the ACL for that account's database), each machine ought to be able to use its own client and read all the folders in that mailbox. Anyway, try the editing of the NOTES.INI file. -- RMc Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote on 10/09/2009 10:06:36 AM: A client of ours sent us the notes client to use to receive drug results from an MRO (Medical Review Officer). When we place the client on one uss computer, they access the information by logging into the Lotus client. However when we place the same client onto another uses computer, they cant view what was on the first users computer. So I thought that I would be able to place the lotus client on the server, share the notes folder and then place a shortcut on each uss desktop. When they go to open notes they receive the following error: Unable to access data directory \\servername\c:\notes\dat using preferences filec:\notes\notes.in. Any ideas? Or would this be a no go since we dot run Domino? _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Lotus Notes rant rem I had just finished a major Lotus Nots client issue when your message hit my Inbox. /rem I don't know about 6.5; we're a 7.0.2 shop. I do know that it is all too easy to break things! Our phone system needs a Lotus Nots client (since we're a Lotus Nots shop) to process and deliver voice mail messages. It crapped out on us early this morning, so 3 voice mail messages were not delivered. LOTS of work getting the message information out to the appropriate people in a timely manner! Not that easy to to re-install the Nots client when it breaks that way,
Re: Price of Office 2007 Pro
I dont know, I pay $69 for my copies of Office. James - Original Message - From: Phillip Partipilo p...@psnet.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 12:56 PM Subject: Price of Office 2007 Pro Maybe call this a jaded Friday for me, but get a load of this. I found this seller on the tubes that is selling full retail box Office 2007 Professional for $165 apiece. Is this an insane number or normal? It costs so much more everywhere else. And today the order arrived in the mail, and it is the real frickin deal, shrinkwrapped real product, hinged plastic case, with the hologrammed COA and discs, it looks damn legit to me. How the heck could this have been so cheap? Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 THIS ELECTRONIC MESSAGE AND ANY ATTACHMENTS ARE CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY PROPERTY OF THE SENDER. THE INFORMATION IS INTENDED FOR USE BY THE ADDRESSEE ONLY. ANY OTHER INTERCEPTION, COPYING, ACCESSING, OR DISCLOSURE OF THIS MESSAGE IS PROHIBITED. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS MESSAGE IN ERROR, PLEASE IMMEDIATELY NOTIFY THE SENDER AND DELETE THIS MAIL AND ALL ATTACHMENTS. DO NOT FORWARD THIS MESSAGE WITHOUT PERMISSION OF THE SENDER. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
