Citrix web interface query
We have two old Windows 2003 domains with PS3 and PS4 farms respectively. We are in the process of migrating the users to a Windows 2008 R2 domain running Xen6. We need to keep some of the old applications from the old domains available in the new infrastructure via the Program Neighborhood Agent, so we have multi-homed our new web interface server with connections to the old PS3 and PS4 farms. So far, so good. Problem comes when a user in the new domain logs onto the PNAgent. They get an error of the credentials supplied were invalid. When I remove the entries for the legacy farms from the web interface, the user can log in fine. So it appears when the PNAgent is submitting the user credentials to the legacy domains for validation, they are being rejected somewhere. Is there anything special that needs to be done to allow the user to log into the web interface in this configuration? There is obviously a trust in place, so the user in the new domain should be validated by the old ones. I *could* just publish up some .ica files for the new users, but that smells like an administrative nightmare Any help is appreciated, TIA, JRR -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Citrix web interface query
An update on thisthe web interface logon works fine if the username and password from the new domain match that in the legacy domain. Which will mean that it will fail again as soon as user's change their password in the new domain... On 29 October 2010 11:18, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: We have two old Windows 2003 domains with PS3 and PS4 farms respectively. We are in the process of migrating the users to a Windows 2008 R2 domain running Xen6. We need to keep some of the old applications from the old domains available in the new infrastructure via the Program Neighborhood Agent, so we have multi-homed our new web interface server with connections to the old PS3 and PS4 farms. So far, so good. Problem comes when a user in the new domain logs onto the PNAgent. They get an error of the credentials supplied were invalid. When I remove the entries for the legacy farms from the web interface, the user can log in fine. So it appears when the PNAgent is submitting the user credentials to the legacy domains for validation, they are being rejected somewhere. Is there anything special that needs to be done to allow the user to log into the web interface in this configuration? There is obviously a trust in place, so the user in the new domain should be validated by the old ones. I *could* just publish up some .ica files for the new users, but that smells like an administrative nightmare Any help is appreciated, TIA, JRR -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Citrix web interface query
Are you publishing apps from PS3, PS4 and XA6? What Web Interface version are you using? Version 5.3 is the only version that can talk to XA6 and anything on 2008 R2. I have never had to multi-home a WI server. WI can easily serve apps from multiple PS/XA version with no problems. I am writing an article on how to do this but it may be a few weeks before it is published. Thanks Carl Webster Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Subject: Citrix web interface query We have two old Windows 2003 domains with PS3 and PS4 farms respectively. We are in the process of migrating the users to a Windows 2008 R2 domain running Xen6. We need to keep some of the old applications from the old domains available in the new infrastructure via the Program Neighborhood Agent, so we have multi-homed our new web interface server with connections to the old PS3 and PS4 farms. So far, so good. Problem comes when a user in the new domain logs onto the PNAgent. They get an error of the credentials supplied were invalid. When I remove the entries for the legacy farms from the web interface, the user can log in fine. So it appears when the PNAgent is submitting the user credentials to the legacy domains for validation, they are being rejected somewhere. Is there anything special that needs to be done to allow the user to log into the web interface in this configuration? There is obviously a trust in place, so the user in the new domain should be validated by the old ones. I *could* just publish up some .ica files for the new users, but that smells like an administrative nightmare Any help is appreciated, ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Citrix web interface query
Yes, we are using apps from all three farms, it is the latest WI, 5.3 I think my use of the term multi-home may have been a little misleading - I just meant that it was connected up to all three disparate farms from the same web interface - I haven't had to do anything with the networking. Ooops It's almost as if the trusts aren't working between the domains - I can only log on successfully as a new domain user when the passwords and usernames match up. if a user changes his password in the new domain, there won't be any synchronisation done to the old, so that will bring the problem up again. On 29 October 2010 12:02, Webster carlwebs...@gmail.com wrote: Are you publishing apps from PS3, PS4 and XA6? What Web Interface version are you using? Version 5.3 is the only version that can talk to XA6 and anything on 2008 R2. I have never had to multi-home a WI server. WI can easily serve apps from multiple PS/XA version with no problems. I am writing an article on how to do this but it may be a few weeks before it is published. Thanks Carl Webster Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] *Subject:* Citrix web interface query We have two old Windows 2003 domains with PS3 and PS4 farms respectively. We are in the process of migrating the users to a Windows 2008 R2 domain running Xen6. We need to keep some of the old applications from the old domains available in the new infrastructure via the Program Neighborhood Agent, so we have multi-homed our new web interface server with connections to the old PS3 and PS4 farms. So far, so good. Problem comes when a user in the new domain logs onto the PNAgent. They get an error of the credentials supplied were invalid. When I remove the entries for the legacy farms from the web interface, the user can log in fine. So it appears when the PNAgent is submitting the user credentials to the legacy domains for validation, they are being rejected somewhere. Is there anything special that needs to be done to allow the user to log into the web interface in this configuration? There is obviously a trust in place, so the user in the new domain should be validated by the old ones. I *could* just publish up some .ica files for the new users, but that smells like an administrative nightmare Any help is appreciated, ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Citrix web interface query
Did you add the Zone Data Collector from each farm to each WI site and XenApp Services Site and to CSG/CAG/NS? Thanks Carl Webster Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Subject: Re: Citrix web interface query Yes, we are using apps from all three farms, it is the latest WI, 5.3 I think my use of the term multi-home may have been a little misleading - I just meant that it was connected up to all three disparate farms from the same web interface - I haven't had to do anything with the networking. Ooops It's almost as if the trusts aren't working between the domains - I can only log on successfully as a new domain user when the passwords and usernames match up. if a user changes his password in the new domain, there won't be any synchronisation done to the old, so that will bring the problem up again. On 29 October 2010 12:02, Webster carlwebs...@gmail.com wrote: Are you publishing apps from PS3, PS4 and XA6? What Web Interface version are you using? Version 5.3 is the only version that can talk to XA6 and anything on 2008 R2. I have never had to multi-home a WI server. WI can easily serve apps from multiple PS/XA version with no problems. I am writing an article on how to do this but it may be a few weeks before it is published. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Subject: Citrix web interface query We have two old Windows 2003 domains with PS3 and PS4 farms respectively. We are in the process of migrating the users to a Windows 2008 R2 domain running Xen6. We need to keep some of the old applications from the old domains available in the new infrastructure via the Program Neighborhood Agent, so we have multi-homed our new web interface server with connections to the old PS3 and PS4 farms. So far, so good. Problem comes when a user in the new domain logs onto the PNAgent. They get an error of the credentials supplied were invalid. When I remove the entries for the legacy farms from the web interface, the user can log in fine. So it appears when the PNAgent is submitting the user credentials to the legacy domains for validation, they are being rejected somewhere. Is there anything special that needs to be done to allow the user to log into the web interface in this configuration? There is obviously a trust in place, so the user in the new domain should be validated by the old ones. I *could* just publish up some .ica files for the new users, but that smells like an administrative nightmare Any help is appreciated, ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Citrix web interface query
Yes, got all the appropriate entries in there. The logon works fine if I specify credentials from the old domains. It's just when I supply a username and password from the new domain - it barfs out the invalid credentials error. I can access file shares and such like in the old domains under a new domain userid, so I'm a bit confused as to why the PNAgent logon won't go. On 29 October 2010 12:13, Webster carlwebs...@gmail.com wrote: Did you add the Zone Data Collector from each farm to each WI site and XenApp Services Site and to CSG/CAG/NS? Thanks Carl Webster Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] *Subject:* Re: Citrix web interface query Yes, we are using apps from all three farms, it is the latest WI, 5.3 I think my use of the term multi-home may have been a little misleading - I just meant that it was connected up to all three disparate farms from the same web interface - I haven't had to do anything with the networking. Ooops It's almost as if the trusts aren't working between the domains - I can only log on successfully as a new domain user when the passwords and usernames match up. if a user changes his password in the new domain, there won't be any synchronisation done to the old, so that will bring the problem up again. On 29 October 2010 12:02, Webster carlwebs...@gmail.com wrote: Are you publishing apps from PS3, PS4 and XA6? What Web Interface version are you using? Version 5.3 is the only version that can talk to XA6 and anything on 2008 R2. I have never had to multi-home a WI server. WI can easily serve apps from multiple PS/XA version with no problems. I am writing an article on how to do this but it may be a few weeks before it is published. *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] *Subject:* Citrix web interface query We have two old Windows 2003 domains with PS3 and PS4 farms respectively. We are in the process of migrating the users to a Windows 2008 R2 domain running Xen6. We need to keep some of the old applications from the old domains available in the new infrastructure via the Program Neighborhood Agent, so we have multi-homed our new web interface server with connections to the old PS3 and PS4 farms. So far, so good. Problem comes when a user in the new domain logs onto the PNAgent. They get an error of the credentials supplied were invalid. When I remove the entries for the legacy farms from the web interface, the user can log in fine. So it appears when the PNAgent is submitting the user credentials to the legacy domains for validation, they are being rejected somewhere. Is there anything special that needs to be done to allow the user to log into the web interface in this configuration? There is obviously a trust in place, so the user in the new domain should be validated by the old ones. I *could* just publish up some .ica files for the new users, but that smells like an administrative nightmare Any help is appreciated, ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Question on Granting service account read access to Domain Controller Eventlogs
It has a service that runs as an account that contacts the DC's to read the logs, this service accounts doesn't run on the DC's but on the Vericept Console itself. Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 12:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Question on Granting service account read access to Domain Controller Eventlogs Presumably this product has an agent or uses WinRM or something to read/pull in the logs in real time, back to a central location for correlation. The service account that's being used requires permission to read the logs. Cheers Ken From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Friday, 29 October 2010 3:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Question on Granting service account read access to Domain Controller Eventlogs If your environment is that big how can they look at multiple DCs in real time and correlate them? Maybe I don't understand your requirements but it seems like you want to ship the logs real-time to a SIEM or log management tool managed by the security team or MSSP, that is a far better way to do it than to grant access to the logs directly. From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Question on Granting service account read access to Domain Controller Eventlogs Its for Vericept, and they need to read the logs in realtime to correlate what is seen on the network with a user. Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Question on Granting service account read access to Domain Controller Eventlogs Could you not just setup a job to copy the security.evtx file to somewhere else and let them access that? On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:48 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: Can you control this by NTFS access to the .evt file itself? On 27 October 2010 16:31, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org wrote: Running a Windows 2008 R2 DFL/FFL domain, security team needs a service account to have read only access to the Security Eventlog accordingly. Is there a way via the Default Domain Controllers Policy to Grant this, or maybe a users right in Windows 2008 R2 accordingly? Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org mailto:email%3aezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a
Re: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?
Good point. S510. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Angus Scott-Fleming angu...@geoapps.comwrote: On 28 Oct 2010 at 21:43, Jeff Steward wrote: I'll second that. Bought one for work and it was *the* most impressive game changing piece of hardware I'd used in a long time. I scanned to PDF things that I never would have thought to scan just because it was so easy to use. -Jeff On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: Fujitsu ScanSnap. Cheap, easy, just works. Couldn't work without it. Which one(s), there are many different models. -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Gary K. Slinger Voice: 727-475-1947 // gChat gary.slin...@gmail.com // Skype: garyslinger Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/garyslinger ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?
We use them for our doc imaging system, pretty solid hardware, easy to keep running. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 8:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: trade publications - toss or archive? Good point. S510. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Angus Scott-Fleming angu...@geoapps.commailto:angu...@geoapps.com wrote: On 28 Oct 2010 at 21:43, Jeff Steward wrote: I'll second that. Bought one for work and it was *the* most impressive game changing piece of hardware I'd used in a long time. I scanned to PDF things that I never would have thought to scan just because it was so easy to use. -Jeff On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.commailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: Fujitsu ScanSnap. Cheap, easy, just works. Couldn't work without it. Which one(s), there are many different models. -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Gary K. Slinger Voice: 727-475-1947 // gChat gary.slin...@gmail.commailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com // Skype: garyslinger Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/garyslinger ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
Hello, We're looking at hosting an application for several other arts organizations. My thinking is that we should use one of these two technologies - but I'm not sure which one. We're behind an ISA 2006 firewall, and we're looking at increasing our internet pipe to Cavalier's Ethernet over Copper product (from a T-1) at 5M. Whichever setup we go with, what logon set-up would be best - we're running a 2003 AD (soon to be 2008 R2). Sean Rector, MCSE Subscriptions and tickets are on sale now! Rigoletto | Cos? Fan Tutte | The Valkyrie | Madama Butterfly Visit us online at www.VaOpera.org or call 1-866-OPERA-VA The vision of Virginia Opera is to enrich lives through the powerful integration of music, voice and human drama. This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). Unless otherwise specified, persons unnamed as recipients may not read, distribute, copy or alter this e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail belong to the author and may not necessarily represent those of Virginia Opera. Although precautions have been taken to ensure no viruses are present, Virginia Opera cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that may arise from the use of this e-mail or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Citrix web interface query
Do you specify a domain in the sites or do the users enter the domain when they login? There is also an issue that if you specify a login domain as websterslab.com in the site settings but the user logs in websterslab\user the PNAgent (AKA online plugin) will NOT authenticate because websterslab != websterslab.com. Webster From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Subject: Re: Citrix web interface query Yes, got all the appropriate entries in there. The logon works fine if I specify credentials from the old domains. It's just when I supply a username and password from the new domain - it barfs out the invalid credentials error. I can access file shares and such like in the old domains under a new domain userid, so I'm a bit confused as to why the PNAgent logon won't go. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
What OS will you be hosting the application on? Thanks Carl Webster Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Hello, We're looking at hosting an application for several other arts organizations. My thinking is that we should use one of these two technologies - but I'm not sure which one. We're behind an ISA 2006 firewall, and we're looking at increasing our internet pipe to Cavalier's Ethernet over Copper product (from a T-1) at 5M. Whichever setup we go with, what logon set-up would be best - we're running a 2003 AD (soon to be 2008 R2). ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
Windows - the application is Tessitura (http://www.tessitura-network.org), and is used for CRM Ticketing for arts organizations. Sean Rector, MCSE From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? What OS will you be hosting the application on? Thanks Carl Webster Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Hello, We're looking at hosting an application for several other arts organizations. My thinking is that we should use one of these two technologies - but I'm not sure which one. We're behind an ISA 2006 firewall, and we're looking at increasing our internet pipe to Cavalier's Ethernet over Copper product (from a T-1) at 5M. Whichever setup we go with, what logon set-up would be best - we're running a 2003 AD (soon to be 2008 R2). ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Subscriptions and tickets are on sale now! Rigoletto | Cos? Fan Tutte | The Valkyrie | Madama Butterfly Visit us online at www.VaOpera.org or call 1-866-OPERA-VA The vision of Virginia Opera is to enrich lives through the powerful integration of music, voice and human drama. This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). Unless otherwise specified, persons unnamed as recipients may not read, distribute, copy or alter this e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail belong to the author and may not necessarily represent those of Virginia Opera. Although precautions have been taken to ensure no viruses are present, Virginia Opera cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that may arise from the use of this e-mail or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
Windows??? Do you mean 2003, 2008 or R2? If 2003 or 2008, 32-bit or 64-bit? Webster From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Windows - the application is Tessitura (http://www.tessitura-network.org), and is used for CRM Ticketing for arts organizations. From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? What OS will you be hosting the application on? From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Hello, We're looking at hosting an application for several other arts organizations. My thinking is that we should use one of these two technologies - but I'm not sure which one. We're behind an ISA 2006 firewall, and we're looking at increasing our internet pipe to Cavalier's Ethernet over Copper product (from a T-1) at 5M. Whichever setup we go with, what logon set-up would be best - we're running a 2003 AD (soon to be 2008 R2). ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
It'll be Server 2008 R2, 64-bit. Sean Rector, MCSE From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Windows??? Do you mean 2003, 2008 or R2? If 2003 or 2008, 32-bit or 64-bit? Webster From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Windows - the application is Tessitura (http://www.tessitura-network.org), and is used for CRM Ticketing for arts organizations. From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? What OS will you be hosting the application on? From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Hello, We're looking at hosting an application for several other arts organizations. My thinking is that we should use one of these two technologies - but I'm not sure which one. We're behind an ISA 2006 firewall, and we're looking at increasing our internet pipe to Cavalier's Ethernet over Copper product (from a T-1) at 5M. Whichever setup we go with, what logon set-up would be best - we're running a 2003 AD (soon to be 2008 R2). ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Subscriptions and tickets are on sale now! Rigoletto | Cos? Fan Tutte | The Valkyrie | Madama Butterfly Visit us online at www.VaOpera.org or call 1-866-OPERA-VA The vision of Virginia Opera is to enrich lives through the powerful integration of music, voice and human drama. This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). Unless otherwise specified, persons unnamed as recipients may not read, distribute, copy or alter this e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail belong to the author and may not necessarily represent those of Virginia Opera. Although precautions have been taken to ensure no viruses are present, Virginia Opera cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that may arise from the use of this e-mail or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
To be pedantic, LCD is a family of technology that includes transmissive flavors that require backlighting, and reflective, which does not. That having been said, the Kindle is not only reflective, it's E-ink is a different underlying technology that gives it a different feel than even reflective LCD... I find white-background backlit LCD displays the least comfortable to read for extended periods. Inverting the background colors helps tremendously. Reflective LCD is easier on the eyes yet, provided you have the correct lighting conditions. I've not used the Kindle extensively, but my impression is that one of the chief advantages of the E-ink they use is that it's not a light-polarization type scheme and it's reasonably high resolution... -sc From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive? Kindle has no backlight. It's a completely different experience than reading an LCD. From: Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 17:20:18 -0500 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive? I can't read much online without my eyes getting strained. Something about the backlight, I think. Short reads are okay, but I don't think I could make it through The Foundation Trilogy online or on a Kindle. From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive? +100 I'm afraid that we're seeing the end of paper bound trade pubs as we know it. Call me old fashioned, but I think it is sooo much easier to thumb through a book or magazine sometimes than to search online. And then there's also the concern of whether the content has been tampered with or not. Hard to tamper with a physical copy once it has been printed and bound... Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA jra...@eaglemds.com BLOCKED::mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com www.eaglemds.com BLOCKED::http://www.eaglemds.com/ From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive? I'm pretty disappointed it went digital. I'd definitely be willing to pay for it, but they gave out so many free subscriptions, I think it just became a casualty. From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive? I'm curious - a few mentioned keeping their old TechNet magazines. Does everyone else keep up with that publication since it went digital only? I used to look forward to it, but have to admit I haven't looked at it since it stopped coming in a print version. From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive? Aside from that...the nagging thing in my mind is the conspiracy theory voice that says, if you have it in print, you can prove it. If it is online...well, it can be changed... :-) Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA jra...@eaglemds.com BLOCKED::mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com www.eaglemds.com BLOCKED::http://www.eaglemds.com/ From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive? True - that's what I keep thinking, maybe all of this is right at our fingertips online for however long we will need it, but then the pack rat comes back and whispers, you know, you may need this little book or that little article and it won't be out there... From: Ben Schorr b...@rolandschorr.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 3:10:39 PM Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive? I had that situation. Then my wife and I moved to a new house and I took the opportunity to donate most of them to the local public library. I realized that I'd rarely opened any of those books in the previous two years (Google is so much easier). Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com http://www.rolandschorr.com/ b...@rolandschorr.com mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bschorr http://www.twitter.com/bschorr
Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk
We lost our setup disks. HELP! Can anyone help? This is out of maintenance and the setups are no longer available. We are rolling out new machines, and need it! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
They don't provide much information on their software. BTW, there is no - in their URL. Is their software supported on TS/RDS/Citrix? Is it supported on R2? Thanks Webster From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? It'll be Server 2008 R2, 64-bit. From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Windows??? Do you mean 2003, 2008 or R2? If 2003 or 2008, 32-bit or 64-bit? From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Windows - the application is Tessitura (http://www.tessitura-network.org), and is used for CRM Ticketing for arts organizations. From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? What OS will you be hosting the application on? From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Hello, We're looking at hosting an application for several other arts organizations. My thinking is that we should use one of these two technologies - but I'm not sure which one. We're behind an ISA 2006 firewall, and we're looking at increasing our internet pipe to Cavalier's Ethernet over Copper product (from a T-1) at 5M. Whichever setup we go with, what logon set-up would be best - we're running a 2003 AD (soon to be 2008 R2). ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: trade publications - toss or archive?
Another $.02 Don't we all make time for the list emails? Not a whole lot different then blocking out time for reading/professional dev. IMO these discussions/issues are a huge part of the research etc that we dofrom opions to testing to gotchas, etc etc etc...the list goes on. Having said that, I much prefer a book or mag than reading online. Cheers! Cameron On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote: To be pedantic, LCD is a family of technology that includes transmissive flavors that require backlighting, and reflective, which does not. That having been said, the Kindle is not only reflective, it’s E-ink is a different underlying technology that gives it a different feel than even reflective LCD… I find white-background backlit LCD displays the least comfortable to read for extended periods. Inverting the background colors helps tremendously. Reflective LCD is easier on the eyes yet, provided you have the correct lighting conditions. I’ve not used the Kindle extensively, but my impression is that one of the chief advantages of the E-ink they use is that it’s not a light-polarization type scheme and it’s reasonably high resolution… -sc *From:* Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:33 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: trade publications - toss or archive? Kindle has no backlight. It's a completely different experience than reading an LCD. -- *From: *Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com *Date: *Thu, 28 Oct 2010 17:20:18 -0500 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *ReplyTo: *NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *RE: trade publications - toss or archive? I can’t read much online without my eyes getting strained. Something about the backlight, I think. Short reads are okay, but I don’t think I could make it through The Foundation Trilogy online or on a Kindle. *From:* Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:11 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: trade publications - toss or archive? +100 I’m afraid that we’re seeing the end of paper bound trade pubs as we know it. Call me old fashioned, but I think it is sooo much easier to thumb through a book or magazine sometimes than to search online. And then there’s also the concern of whether the content has been tampered with or not. Hard to tamper with a physical copy once it has been printed and bound… Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA* *jra...@eaglemds.com* *www.eaglemds.com -- *From:* Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:52 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: trade publications - toss or archive? I’m pretty disappointed it went digital. I’d definitely be willing to pay for it, but they gave out so many free subscriptions, I think it just became a casualty. *From:* Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:38 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: trade publications - toss or archive? I’m curious – a few mentioned keeping their old TechNet magazines. Does everyone else keep up with that publication since it went digital only? I used to look forward to it, but have to admit I haven’t looked at it since it stopped coming in a print version. -- *From:* Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:34 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: trade publications - toss or archive? Aside from that…the nagging thing in my mind is the conspiracy theory voice that says, if you have it in print, you can prove it. If it is online…well, it can be changed… J Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA* *jra...@eaglemds.com* *www.eaglemds.com -- *From:* Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:25 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: trade publications - toss or archive? True - that's what I keep thinking, maybe all of this is right at our fingertips online for however long we will need it, but then the pack rat comes back and whispers, you know, you may need this little book or that little article and it won't be out there... -- *From:* Ben Schorr b...@rolandschorr.com *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Sent:* Thu, October 28, 2010 3:10:39 PM *Subject:* RE: trade publications - toss or archive? I had that situation. Then my wife and I moved to a new house and I took the opportunity to donate most of them to the local
RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
There are pros and cons to both. I run both TS and Citrix XenApp5 in my environment. If the app is not certified for Citrix, tread cautiously, IMO. Even then, just because it works well in one instance, having a handful of users hit a single TS (or Citrix server) to run the app simultaneously could be bad news from a performance standpoint. I believe that the ICA protocol is much more efficient than RDP, however performance if the app is poorly designed and not suited for use via Citrix can be worse in Citrix than in a TS environment. YMMV. TEST, TEST, TEST, and when you're done testing, test some more. Get feedback from other customers prior to signing on the dotted line if possible, and ask very pointed questions about how they are deploying. Get service levels and guarantees in the contract so you can have an exit strategy if things don't pan out according to your performance needs. (no pun intended). Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA jra...@eaglemds.comBLOCKED::mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com www.eaglemds.comBLOCKED::http://www.eaglemds.com/ From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? They don't provide much information on their software. BTW, there is no - in their URL. Is their software supported on TS/RDS/Citrix? Is it supported on R2? Thanks Webster From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? It'll be Server 2008 R2, 64-bit. From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Windows??? Do you mean 2003, 2008 or R2? If 2003 or 2008, 32-bit or 64-bit? From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Windows - the application is Tessitura (http://www.tessitura-network.org), and is used for CRM Ticketing for arts organizations. From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? What OS will you be hosting the application on? From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Hello, We're looking at hosting an application for several other arts organizations. My thinking is that we should use one of these two technologies - but I'm not sure which one. We're behind an ISA 2006 firewall, and we're looking at increasing our internet pipe to Cavalier's Ethernet over Copper product (from a T-1) at 5M. Whichever setup we go with, what logon set-up would be best - we're running a 2003 AD (soon to be 2008 R2). ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the information that it contains. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
Yes and Yes. We're running it currently - but are investigating setting up a Consortium of arts companies. What further information would you need? It's a SQL server-based application - I completely understand separation of orgs within the app - it's the network/remote desktop part that I'm not 100% sure of how to set up. We'll be the keeper of the kingdom so to speak... Sean Rector, MCSE From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? They don't provide much information on their software. BTW, there is no - in their URL. Is their software supported on TS/RDS/Citrix? Is it supported on R2? Thanks Webster From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? It'll be Server 2008 R2, 64-bit. From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Windows??? Do you mean 2003, 2008 or R2? If 2003 or 2008, 32-bit or 64-bit? From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Windows - the application is Tessitura (http://www.tessitura-network.org), and is used for CRM Ticketing for arts organizations. From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? What OS will you be hosting the application on? From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Hello, We're looking at hosting an application for several other arts organizations. My thinking is that we should use one of these two technologies - but I'm not sure which one. We're behind an ISA 2006 firewall, and we're looking at increasing our internet pipe to Cavalier's Ethernet over Copper product (from a T-1) at 5M. Whichever setup we go with, what logon set-up would be best - we're running a 2003 AD (soon to be 2008 R2). ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Subscriptions and tickets are on sale now! Rigoletto | Cos? Fan Tutte | The Valkyrie | Madama Butterfly Visit us online at www.VaOpera.org or call 1-866-OPERA-VA The vision of Virginia Opera is to enrich lives through the powerful integration of music, voice and human drama. This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). Unless otherwise specified, persons unnamed as recipients may not read, distribute, copy or alter this e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail belong to the author and may not necessarily represent those of Virginia Opera. Although precautions have been taken to ensure no viruses are present, Virginia Opera cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that may arise from the use of this e-mail or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Update: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless
That is, IMO, best practice; and that is *exactly* how we are setup. Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA jra...@eaglemds.comBLOCKED::mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com www.eaglemds.comBLOCKED::http://www.eaglemds.com/ From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 2:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Update: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless I know its late, but sometimes pictures help: [cid:image001.jpg@01CB774F.9C013E40] Rings=signal strength. AP placement as triangular as possible for further expansion. -- ME2 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:36 AM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: If I should only use those 3 channels, what's my best approach? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the information that it contains. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmininline: image001.jpg
RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
Last I checked TS licensing was far cheaper than Citrix - see if there's a big
price delta. If yes, then see if there's any reason the cheaper solution
wouldn't work. If no big price difference do you have any in-house knowledge
that knows one app better than the other? I am in the midst of standing up
2008 Terminal Servers to replace our aging Citrix Metaframe and 2008 R2 TS is
very easy to set up.
To add into this question, I'd love to hear why people would recommend Citrix
over TS 2008. TS 2008's application management is far better than previous
Terminal Server versions.
Dave
From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 6:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
It'll be Server 2008 R2, 64-bit.
Sean Rector, MCSE
From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
Windows??? Do you mean 2003, 2008 or R2? If 2003 or 2008, 32-bit or 64-bit?
Webster
From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]
Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
Windows - the application is Tessitura (http://www.tessitura-network.org), and
is used for CRM Ticketing for arts organizations.
From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com]
Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
What OS will you be hosting the application on?
From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]
Subject: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
Hello,
We're looking at hosting an application for several other arts organizations.
My thinking is that we should use one of these two technologies - but I'm not
sure which one. We're behind an ISA 2006 firewall, and we're looking at
increasing our internet pipe to Cavalier's Ethernet over Copper product (from a
T-1) at 5M.
Whichever setup we go with, what logon set-up would be best - we're running a
2003 AD (soon to be 2008 R2).
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
Personally I'd rather use Citrix instead of TS/RDP given the option as long as
it performs well. We use a Citrix Access Gateway, and my end users love it (as
long as the required plugin is easily downloadable/installable!!! - for both PC
And Mac!) it is a far sight easier to use and support IMO than traditional
VPN/RDP.
Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians Associates, PA
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From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
Yes and Yes. We're running it currently - but are investigating setting up a
Consortium of arts companies. What further information would you need? It's a
SQL server-based application - I completely understand separation of orgs
within the app - it's the network/remote desktop part that I'm not 100% sure of
how to set up. We'll be the keeper of the kingdom so to speak...
Sean Rector, MCSE
From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
They don't provide much information on their software. BTW, there is no - in
their URL. Is their software supported on TS/RDS/Citrix? Is it supported on
R2?
Thanks
Webster
From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]
Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
It'll be Server 2008 R2, 64-bit.
From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com]
Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
Windows??? Do you mean 2003, 2008 or R2? If 2003 or 2008, 32-bit or 64-bit?
From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]
Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
Windows - the application is Tessitura (http://www.tessitura-network.org), and
is used for CRM Ticketing for arts organizations.
From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com]
Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
What OS will you be hosting the application on?
From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]
Subject: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
Hello,
We're looking at hosting an application for several other arts organizations.
My thinking is that we should use one of these two technologies - but I'm not
sure which one. We're behind an ISA 2006 firewall, and we're looking at
increasing our internet pipe to Cavalier's Ethernet over Copper product (from a
T-1) at 5M.
Whichever setup we go with, what logon set-up would be best - we're running a
2003 AD (soon to be 2008 R2).
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RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
Perhaps I lean toward Citrix because I haven't had the opportunity of
using/deploying TS under 2008 - we're still using 2003...thanks for pointing
out that TS under 2008 has improved!
As mentioned before, this list is priceless!
Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians Associates, PA
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Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 10:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
Last I checked TS licensing was far cheaper than Citrix - see if there's a big
price delta. If yes, then see if there's any reason the cheaper solution
wouldn't work. If no big price difference do you have any in-house knowledge
that knows one app better than the other? I am in the midst of standing up
2008 Terminal Servers to replace our aging Citrix Metaframe and 2008 R2 TS is
very easy to set up.
To add into this question, I'd love to hear why people would recommend Citrix
over TS 2008. TS 2008's application management is far better than previous
Terminal Server versions.
Dave
From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 6:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
It'll be Server 2008 R2, 64-bit.
Sean Rector, MCSE
From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
Windows??? Do you mean 2003, 2008 or R2? If 2003 or 2008, 32-bit or 64-bit?
Webster
From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]
Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
Windows - the application is Tessitura (http://www.tessitura-network.org), and
is used for CRM Ticketing for arts organizations.
From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com]
Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
What OS will you be hosting the application on?
From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]
Subject: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
Hello,
We're looking at hosting an application for several other arts organizations.
My thinking is that we should use one of these two technologies - but I'm not
sure which one. We're behind an ISA 2006 firewall, and we're looking at
increasing our internet pipe to Cavalier's Ethernet over Copper product (from a
T-1) at 5M.
Whichever setup we go with, what logon set-up would be best - we're running a
2003 AD (soon to be 2008 R2).
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RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
Why don't you have a bake off between the two? Setup a set of VMs for the two technologies and test them. You can download an eval copy of XenApp 6 with a 90-day license for 99 users. That way you can test and not spend any money, just time. See which works best for you and your users. Webster From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Yes and Yes. We're running it currently - but are investigating setting up a Consortium of arts companies. What further information would you need? It's a SQL server-based application - I completely understand separation of orgs within the app - it's the network/remote desktop part that I'm not 100% sure of how to set up. We'll be the keeper of the kingdom so to speak. From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? They don't provide much information on their software. BTW, there is no - in their URL. Is their software supported on TS/RDS/Citrix? Is it supported on R2? From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? It'll be Server 2008 R2, 64-bit. From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Windows??? Do you mean 2003, 2008 or R2? If 2003 or 2008, 32-bit or 64-bit? From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Windows - the application is Tessitura (http://www.tessitura-network.org), and is used for CRM Ticketing for arts organizations. From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? What OS will you be hosting the application on? From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Hello, We're looking at hosting an application for several other arts organizations. My thinking is that we should use one of these two technologies - but I'm not sure which one. We're behind an ISA 2006 firewall, and we're looking at increasing our internet pipe to Cavalier's Ethernet over Copper product (from a T-1) at 5M. Whichever setup we go with, what logon set-up would be best - we're running a 2003 AD (soon to be 2008 R2). ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
Hmmm...food for thought, that... Sean Rector, MCSE From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Why don't you have a bake off between the two? Setup a set of VMs for the two technologies and test them. You can download an eval copy of XenApp 6 with a 90-day license for 99 users. That way you can test and not spend any money, just time. See which works best for you and your users. Webster From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Yes and Yes. We're running it currently - but are investigating setting up a Consortium of arts companies. What further information would you need? It's a SQL server-based application - I completely understand separation of orgs within the app - it's the network/remote desktop part that I'm not 100% sure of how to set up. We'll be the keeper of the kingdom so to speak... From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? They don't provide much information on their software. BTW, there is no - in their URL. Is their software supported on TS/RDS/Citrix? Is it supported on R2? From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? It'll be Server 2008 R2, 64-bit. From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Windows??? Do you mean 2003, 2008 or R2? If 2003 or 2008, 32-bit or 64-bit? From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Windows - the application is Tessitura (http://www.tessitura-network.org), and is used for CRM Ticketing for arts organizations. From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? What OS will you be hosting the application on? From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Hello, We're looking at hosting an application for several other arts organizations. My thinking is that we should use one of these two technologies - but I'm not sure which one. We're behind an ISA 2006 firewall, and we're looking at increasing our internet pipe to Cavalier's Ethernet over Copper product (from a T-1) at 5M. Whichever setup we go with, what logon set-up would be best - we're running a 2003 AD (soon to be 2008 R2). ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Subscriptions and tickets are on sale now! Rigoletto | Cos? Fan Tutte | The Valkyrie | Madama Butterfly Visit us online at www.VaOpera.org or call 1-866-OPERA-VA The vision of Virginia Opera is to enrich lives through the powerful integration of music, voice and human drama. This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). Unless otherwise specified, persons unnamed as recipients may not read, distribute, copy or alter this e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail belong to the author and may not necessarily represent those of Virginia Opera. Although precautions have been taken to ensure no viruses are present, Virginia Opera cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that may arise from the use of this e-mail or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
I'd love to hear why people would recommend Citrix over TS 2008 http://www.dabcc.com/article.aspx?id=9771 At my previous employer, we had several customers that tried moving from Presentation Server 4.5 to TS2008, gave up and moved back. IMNSHO, TS2008 just doesn't scale well for large enterprises unless you have some very experienced people around. Webster From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Last I checked TS licensing was far cheaper than Citrix - see if there's a big price delta. If yes, then see if there's any reason the cheaper solution wouldn't work. If no big price difference do you have any in-house knowledge that knows one app better than the other? I am in the midst of standing up 2008 Terminal Servers to replace our aging Citrix Metaframe and 2008 R2 TS is very easy to set up. To add into this question, I'd love to hear why people would recommend Citrix over TS 2008. TS 2008's application management is far better than previous Terminal Server versions. From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? It'll be Server 2008 R2, 64-bit. From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Windows??? Do you mean 2003, 2008 or R2? If 2003 or 2008, 32-bit or 64-bit? Webster From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Windows - the application is Tessitura (http://www.tessitura-network.org), and is used for CRM Ticketing for arts organizations. From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? What OS will you be hosting the application on? From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Hello, We're looking at hosting an application for several other arts organizations. My thinking is that we should use one of these two technologies - but I'm not sure which one. We're behind an ISA 2006 firewall, and we're looking at increasing our internet pipe to Cavalier's Ethernet over Copper product (from a T-1) at 5M. Whichever setup we go with, what logon set-up would be best - we're running a 2003 AD (soon to be 2008 R2). ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
Cool, I was hoping there was an article like that someone would point out, thanks! Dave suddenly feeling déjà vu Lum From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 7:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? I'd love to hear why people would recommend Citrix over TS 2008 http://www.dabcc.com/article.aspx?id=9771 At my previous employer, we had several customers that tried moving from Presentation Server 4.5 to TS2008, gave up and moved back. IMNSHO, TS2008 just doesn't scale well for large enterprises unless you have some very experienced people around. Webster From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Last I checked TS licensing was far cheaper than Citrix - see if there's a big price delta. If yes, then see if there's any reason the cheaper solution wouldn't work. If no big price difference do you have any in-house knowledge that knows one app better than the other? I am in the midst of standing up 2008 Terminal Servers to replace our aging Citrix Metaframe and 2008 R2 TS is very easy to set up. To add into this question, I'd love to hear why people would recommend Citrix over TS 2008. TS 2008's application management is far better than previous Terminal Server versions. From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? It'll be Server 2008 R2, 64-bit. From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Windows??? Do you mean 2003, 2008 or R2? If 2003 or 2008, 32-bit or 64-bit? Webster From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Windows - the application is Tessitura (http://www.tessitura-network.org), and is used for CRM Ticketing for arts organizations. From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? What OS will you be hosting the application on? From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Hello, We're looking at hosting an application for several other arts organizations. My thinking is that we should use one of these two technologies - but I'm not sure which one. We're behind an ISA 2006 firewall, and we're looking at increasing our internet pipe to Cavalier's Ethernet over Copper product (from a T-1) at 5M. Whichever setup we go with, what logon set-up would be best - we're running a 2003 AD (soon to be 2008 R2). ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk
Hello, my name is Steve and I'd like to publicly declare my intent to commit an act of software piracy. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Steve Kelsay kels...@sctax.org wrote: We lost our setup disks. HELP! Can anyone help? This is out of maintenance and the setups are no longer available. We are rolling out new machines, and need it! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Gary K. Slinger Voice: 727-475-1947 // gChat gary.slin...@gmail.com // Skype: garyslinger Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/garyslinger ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk
**cooking up some popcorn** Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 10:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk Hello, my name is Steve and I'd like to publicly declare my intent to commit an act of software piracy. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Steve Kelsay kels...@sctax.org wrote: We lost our setup disks. HELP! Can anyone help? This is out of maintenance and the setups are no longer available. We are rolling out new machines, and need it! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Gary K. Slinger Voice: 727-475-1947 // gChat gary.slin...@gmail.com // Skype: garyslinger Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/garyslinger ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk
It would only be piracy if they were not licensed. They are most definitely licensed, even though they are obsolete and no longer available for purchase or supported by the developers. We have our own license keys. From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 10:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk Hello, my name is Steve and I'd like to publicly declare my intent to commit an act of software piracy. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Steve Kelsay kels...@sctax.org wrote: We lost our setup disks. HELP! Can anyone help? This is out of maintenance and the setups are no longer available. We are rolling out new machines, and need it! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Gary K. Slinger Voice: 727-475-1947 // gChat gary.slin...@gmail.com // Skype: garyslinger Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/garyslinger ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: RE: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk
Do you have it already installed on a system? I'd try Pick My App and see if you can copy and move the program from the existing computer to the new system. My $.02. On Oct 29, 2010 10:36 AM, Steve Kelsay kels...@sctax.org wrote: It would only be piracy if they were not licensed. They are most definitely licensed, even though they are obsolete and no longer available for purchase or supported by the developers. We have our own license keys. From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 10:29 AM To:... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.c... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: RE: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk
We have it on XP systems, but the new systems are windows 7, so probably would not migrate, therefore the installs would be probably be needed. That is why we are looking for an install disk. Still, it is worth a try. Thanks for the response! From: Daniel Rodriguez [mailto:drod...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 10:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: RE: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk Do you have it already installed on a system? I'd try Pick My App and see if you can copy and move the program from the existing computer to the new system. My $.02. On Oct 29, 2010 10:36 AM, Steve Kelsay kels...@sctax.org wrote: It would only be piracy if they were not licensed. They are most definitely licensed, even though they are obsolete and no longer available for purchase or supported by the developers. We have our own license keys. From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 10:29 AM To:... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.c... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)
Yes I meant DL, anyhow I got a new drive pulled the old one and hot-swapped the new drive it rebuilt in less than 1 hour, back up with no problems, thanks for all the suggestions. Stefan On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Louis, Joe jlo...@guardianalarm.comwrote: Did you mean DL instead of GL? I’ve been using DL 380s since G1. Most of the Proliants are similar. Cant say that I’ve ever seen one where the RAID 0+1 is in a box that doesn’t support hot swappable drives. It “should” be as simple as pulling the one going bad and putting the new one in. You shouldn’t have to bother with Smartstart. On Proliants, most of the Hot-swappable parts have purple handles. The HP Array control software would tell you exactly how it is configured and you can make your decision from there. If Insight says that the drive is going bad, it should already have marked it as such and the drive would have a red fault light on. If so, it would already be offline. The Windows event log will show degrading status entries. They are really good about those kinds of things and hyper sensitive for good reason. It might just need to be reseated. I’ve used drives for years after first identified with an alert. *From:* Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:32 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0) Me thinks those are most likely hot swap drives. Make sure you’ve got a good backup, pull the failing drive, put new one in and the raid controller should automatically rebuild. No down time. *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:27 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0) I have an HP GL380 G5 server with 2 drives for the OS, it's now telling me that drive 1 is about to fail! 2 months after the end of Warranty! I'm ordering a new drive but how do I replace it? Do I have to shut down and start with SmartStart go to ACU and split the Array or do I simply shut down replace the drive and re-start? - - Stefan Jafs ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Stefan Jafs ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Question on Granting service account read access to Domain Controller Eventlogs
I have learned here over the years not to be overly presumptive hence the caveat about not understanding the requirements which were a little vague to me, particularly the fact that I didn't see an agent mentioned J That's also the opposite of the SIEM solutions and MSSPs I've ever worked with as well, IME the endpoints push to the collector/aggregator and as I said, I don't envision how an aggregator pulling logs scales worth a darn so I asked the question. From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Question on Granting service account read access to Domain Controller Eventlogs Presumably this product has an agent or uses WinRM or something to read/pull in the logs in real time, back to a central location for correlation. The service account that's being used requires permission to read the logs. Cheers Ken From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Friday, 29 October 2010 3:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Question on Granting service account read access to Domain Controller Eventlogs If your environment is that big how can they look at multiple DCs in real time and correlate them? Maybe I don't understand your requirements but it seems like you want to ship the logs real-time to a SIEM or log management tool managed by the security team or MSSP, that is a far better way to do it than to grant access to the logs directly. From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Question on Granting service account read access to Domain Controller Eventlogs Its for Vericept, and they need to read the logs in realtime to correlate what is seen on the network with a user. Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Question on Granting service account read access to Domain Controller Eventlogs Could you not just setup a job to copy the security.evtx file to somewhere else and let them access that? On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:48 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: Can you control this by NTFS access to the .evt file itself? On 27 October 2010 16:31, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org wrote: Running a Windows 2008 R2 DFL/FFL domain, security team needs a service account to have read only access to the Security Eventlog accordingly. Is there a way via the Default Domain Controllers Policy to Grant this, or maybe a users right in Windows 2008 R2 accordingly? Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org mailto:email%3aezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here:
RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
I did just that, Webster. I tried to save our organization some money by using Terminal Server 2008 for our enterprise medical system. That lasted maybe a year of constant issues. Meanwhile my XenApp systems hummed along quietly. Currently I am moving the Terminal Servers XenApp systems. One thing I really like about XenApp is siloing. Great Plains users on a few servers, EMR on another, another bunch of servers for general apps. Not possible in Terminal Server. So the money I saved was burned by man hours supporting it. Webster carlwebs...@gmail.com 10/29/2010 10:12 AM “I’d love to hear why people would recommend Citrix over TS 2008” http://www.dabcc.com/article.aspx?id=9771 At my previous employer, we had several customers that tried moving from Presentation Server 4.5 to TS2008, gave up and moved back. IMNSHO, TS2008 just doesn’t scale well for large enterprises unless you have some very experienced people around. Webster From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Last I checked TS licensing was far cheaper than Citrix – see if there’s a big price delta. If yes, then see if there’s any reason the cheaper solution wouldn’t work. If no big price difference do you have any in-house knowledge that knows one app better than the other? I am in the midst of standing up 2008 Terminal Servers to replace our aging Citrix Metaframe and 2008 R2 TS is very easy to set up. To add into this question, I’d love to hear why people would recommend Citrix over TS 2008. TS 2008’s application management is far better than previous Terminal Server versions. From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? It’ll be Server 2008 R2, 64-bit. From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Windows??? Do you mean 2003, 2008 or R2? If 2003 or 2008, 32-bit or 64-bit? Webster From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Windows – the application is Tessitura (http://www.tessitura-network.org), and is used for CRM Ticketing for arts organizations. From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? What OS will you be hosting the application on? From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Hello, We’re looking at hosting an application for several other arts organizations. My thinking is that we should use one of these two technologies – but I’m not sure which one. We’re behind an ISA 2006 firewall, and we’re looking at increasing our internet pipe to Cavalier’s Ethernet over Copper product (from a T-1) at 5M. Whichever setup we go with, what logon set-up would be best – we’re running a 2003 AD (soon to be 2008 R2). ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Question on Granting service account read access to Domain Controller Eventlogs
You may want a peek at using wevtutil as outlined in http://blogs.technet.com/b/janelewis/archive/2010/04/30/giving-non-admin istrators-permission-to-read-event-logs-windows-2003-and-windows-2008.as px I know you got pointed to the old KB about SDDL elsewhere but this also outlines a different approach for WS2008 and above. From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 4:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Question on Granting service account read access to Domain Controller Eventlogs It has a service that runs as an account that contacts the DC's to read the logs, this service accounts doesn't run on the DC's but on the Vericept Console itself. Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 12:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Question on Granting service account read access to Domain Controller Eventlogs Presumably this product has an agent or uses WinRM or something to read/pull in the logs in real time, back to a central location for correlation. The service account that's being used requires permission to read the logs. Cheers Ken From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Friday, 29 October 2010 3:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Question on Granting service account read access to Domain Controller Eventlogs If your environment is that big how can they look at multiple DCs in real time and correlate them? Maybe I don't understand your requirements but it seems like you want to ship the logs real-time to a SIEM or log management tool managed by the security team or MSSP, that is a far better way to do it than to grant access to the logs directly. From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Question on Granting service account read access to Domain Controller Eventlogs Its for Vericept, and they need to read the logs in realtime to correlate what is seen on the network with a user. Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Question on Granting service account read access to Domain Controller Eventlogs Could you not just setup a job to copy the security.evtx file to somewhere else and let them access that? On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:48 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: Can you control this by NTFS access to the .evt file itself? On 27 October 2010 16:31, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org wrote: Running a Windows 2008 R2 DFL/FFL domain, security team needs a service account to have read only access to the Security Eventlog accordingly. Is there a way via the Default Domain Controllers Policy to Grant this, or maybe a users right in Windows 2008 R2 accordingly? Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org mailto:email%3aezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage
Re: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Steve Kelsay kels...@sctax.org wrote: It would only be piracy if they were not licensed. software piracy has no legal definition. What you suggest would still be considered copyright infringement. When you buy a copy of software, you have the right to that one copy -- that one disc. You do not have right to make additional copies unless license is granted. The license typically grants you permission to install it, and maybe make a backup. In the world of traditional payware, you're practically never granted permission to distribute additional copies, even to someone else who had a separate license. I doubt anyone would sue you over it, of course. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk
That is all we want to do. Install it. The developer cannot provide installation media. I licensed an install. Actually, several dozen installs. I would like to do that. I see no copyright infringement if I use a legitimate original copy of a setup media to install a licensed copy of the software. Now, if the license was attached to that particular disk, perhaps you would have a point, but it is not. It is separate from the install media. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 11:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Steve Kelsay kels...@sctax.org wrote: It would only be piracy if they were not licensed. software piracy has no legal definition. What you suggest would still be considered copyright infringement. When you buy a copy of software, you have the right to that one copy -- that one disc. You do not have right to make additional copies unless license is granted. The license typically grants you permission to install it, and maybe make a backup. In the world of traditional payware, you're practically never granted permission to distribute additional copies, even to someone else who had a separate license. I doubt anyone would sue you over it, of course. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Vipre and deployment
Yes Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: For you guys with experience using Vipre (I presume it's come a long way by now...) I am curious about a couple things. I gave up on Avira, my first point of support was the var in Canada who proved beyond a shadow of a doubt to be useless. Sophos required far too much reconfiguration of the wkst's and didn't offer their agent as an MSI so I could roll it out myself. Awaiting info from Kasperksy... Can the agents for Vipre be provided by MSI's so I don't have to change anything on the wkst's except maybe a port rule between it and the mgmt host after I push it via GP's? Thanks! jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk
You may see no copyright infringement, but the law would generally disagree with you. It's possible you have the one installation license out there that isn't written the way Ben suggests, but I'd doubt it. Especially if it's old enough that the developer is no longer around. That's just the way those licenses were written, in general, at that time - and you can disagree with them all you want, it doesn't change them. There are very good odds that what you're asking, publicly, is technically illegal. Can you do it? Have IT Admins been doing it for years? Yup. Does asking about it on a public mailing list make sense? Not so much. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Steve Kelsay kels...@sctax.org wrote: That is all we want to do. Install it. The developer cannot provide installation media. I licensed an install. Actually, several dozen installs. I would like to do that. I see no copyright infringement if I use a legitimate original copy of a setup media to install a licensed copy of the software. Now, if the license was attached to that particular disk, perhaps you would have a point, but it is not. It is separate from the install media. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 11:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Steve Kelsay kels...@sctax.org wrote: It would only be piracy if they were not licensed. software piracy has no legal definition. What you suggest would still be considered copyright infringement. When you buy a copy of software, you have the right to that one copy -- that one disc. You do not have right to make additional copies unless license is granted. The license typically grants you permission to install it, and maybe make a backup. In the world of traditional payware, you're practically never granted permission to distribute additional copies, even to someone else who had a separate license. I doubt anyone would sue you over it, of course. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Gary K. Slinger Voice: 727-475-1947 // gChat gary.slin...@gmail.com // Skype: garyslinger Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/garyslinger ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: RE: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk
Well, I think that EASUS has some software that will allow you to migrate an application from XP to 7. Might want to check that out. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Steve Kelsay kels...@sctax.org wrote: We have it on XP systems, but the new systems are windows 7, so probably would not migrate, therefore the installs would be probably be needed. That is why we are looking for an install disk. Still, it is worth a try. Thanks for the response! *From:* Daniel Rodriguez [mailto:drod...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, October 29, 2010 10:40 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: RE: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk Do you have it already installed on a system? I'd try Pick My App and see if you can copy and move the program from the existing computer to the new system. My $.02. On Oct 29, 2010 10:36 AM, Steve Kelsay kels...@sctax.org wrote: It would only be piracy if they were not licensed. They are most definitely licensed, even though they are obsolete and no longer available for purchase or supported by the developers. We have our own license keys. From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 10:29 AM To:... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.c... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Vipre and deployment
Just curious, what is your deployment method? We packaged the Sophos .exe file with SCCM and it is deploying perfectly in our environment. Jim Holmgren Manager of Server Engineering XLHealth Corporation The Warehouse at Camden Yards 351 West Camden Street, Suite 100 Baltimore, MD 21201 410.625.2200 (main) 443.524.8573 (direct) 443-506.2400 (cell) www.xlhealth.com -Original Message- From: David Minich [mailto:dmin...@datamovers.us] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 11:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre and deployment Yes Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: For you guys with experience using Vipre (I presume it's come a long way by now...) I am curious about a couple things. I gave up on Avira, my first point of support was the var in Canada who proved beyond a shadow of a doubt to be useless. Sophos required far too much reconfiguration of the wkst's and didn't offer their agent as an MSI so I could roll it out myself. Awaiting info from Kasperksy... Can the agents for Vipre be provided by MSI's so I don't have to change anything on the wkst's except maybe a port rule between it and the mgmt host after I push it via GP's? Thanks! jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or protected health information. Under the Federal Law (HIPAA), the intended recipient is obligated to keep this information secure and confidential. Any disclosure to third parties without authorization from the member of as permitted by law is prohibited and punishable under Federal Law. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. NOTA DE CONFIDENCIALIDAD: Este facs�mile, incluyendo lo adjunto, es para el uso exclusivo del destinatario(s) y puede contener informaci�n confidencial y/o informaci�n protegida de salud. En virtud de la Ley Federal (HIPAA), el destinatario tiene la obligaci�n de mantener esta informaci�n segura y confidencial. Cualquier divulgaci�n a terceros sin la autorizaci�n de los miembros de lo permitido por la ley est� prohibido y penado en virtud de la Ley Federal. Si usted no es el destinatario, por favor, p�ngase en contacto con el remitente por tel�fono y destruir todas las copias del mensaje original ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Vipre and deployment
You can deploy Vipre as an MSI from the console. I suppose that you can push the MSI with GP if you like. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: For you guys with experience using Vipre (I presume it’s come a long way by now…) I am curious about a couple things. I gave up on Avira, my first point of support was the var in Canada who proved beyond a shadow of a doubt to be useless. Sophos required far too much reconfiguration of the wkst’s and didn’t offer their agent as an MSI so I could roll it out myself. Awaiting info from Kasperksy… Can the agents for Vipre be provided by MSI’s so I don’t have to change anything on the wkst’s except maybe a port rule between it and the mgmt host after I push it via GP’s? Thanks! jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Vipre and deployment
GPO's... -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:jholmg...@xlhealth.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vipre and deployment Just curious, what is your deployment method? We packaged the Sophos .exe file with SCCM and it is deploying perfectly in our environment. Jim Holmgren Manager of Server Engineering XLHealth Corporation The Warehouse at Camden Yards 351 West Camden Street, Suite 100 Baltimore, MD 21201 410.625.2200 (main) 443.524.8573 (direct) 443-506.2400 (cell) www.xlhealth.com -Original Message- From: David Minich [mailto:dmin...@datamovers.us] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 11:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre and deployment Yes Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: For you guys with experience using Vipre (I presume it's come a long way by now...) I am curious about a couple things. I gave up on Avira, my first point of support was the var in Canada who proved beyond a shadow of a doubt to be useless. Sophos required far too much reconfiguration of the wkst's and didn't offer their agent as an MSI so I could roll it out myself. Awaiting info from Kasperksy... Can the agents for Vipre be provided by MSI's so I don't have to change anything on the wkst's except maybe a port rule between it and the mgmt host after I push it via GP's? Thanks! jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or protected health information. Under the Federal Law (HIPAA), the intended recipient is obligated to keep this information secure and confidential. Any disclosure to third parties without authorization from the member of as permitted by law is prohibited and punishable under Federal Law. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. NOTA DE CONFIDENCIALIDAD: Este facs�mile, incluyendo lo adjunto, es para el uso exclusivo del destinatario(s) y puede contener informaci�n confidencial y/o informaci�n protegida de salud. En virtud de la Ley Federal (HIPAA), el destinatario tiene la obligaci�n de mantener esta informaci�n segura y confidencial. Cualquier divulgaci�n a terceros sin la autorizaci�n de los miembros de lo permitido por la ley est� prohibido y penado en virtud de la Ley Federal. Si usted no es el destinatario, por favor, p�ngase en contacto con el remitente por tel�fono y destruir todas las copias del mensaje original ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Vipre and deployment
Yea, if I do it with the Console, I need to enable file and print services on the wkst etc... If I use a GPO, I don't. From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre and deployment You can deploy Vipre as an MSI from the console. I suppose that you can push the MSI with GP if you like. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.commailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: For you guys with experience using Vipre (I presume it's come a long way by now...) I am curious about a couple things. I gave up on Avira, my first point of support was the var in Canada who proved beyond a shadow of a doubt to be useless. Sophos required far too much reconfiguration of the wkst's and didn't offer their agent as an MSI so I could roll it out myself. Awaiting info from Kasperksy... Can the agents for Vipre be provided by MSI's so I don't have to change anything on the wkst's except maybe a port rule between it and the mgmt host after I push it via GP's? Thanks! jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk
What would be copyright infringement? We are not copying anything. I am asking for the use of a legitimate copy of a disk to do what that disk was sold to do, to make a licensed install of the product for which it was sold Not additional copies, no illegal copies. No unlicensed copies. They allow the setup disk to be copied to a network install location for the same purpose. What would be the difference if I copy it to that network location from my original downloaded file, disk, or another legitimate downloaded disk? From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 11:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk You may see no copyright infringement, but the law would generally disagree with you. It's possible you have the one installation license out there that isn't written the way Ben suggests, but I'd doubt it. Especially if it's old enough that the developer is no longer around. That's just the way those licenses were written, in general, at that time - and you can disagree with them all you want, it doesn't change them. There are very good odds that what you're asking, publicly, is technically illegal. Can you do it? Have IT Admins been doing it for years? Yup. Does asking about it on a public mailing list make sense? Not so much. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Steve Kelsay kels...@sctax.org wrote: That is all we want to do. Install it. The developer cannot provide installation media. I licensed an install. Actually, several dozen installs. I would like to do that. I see no copyright infringement if I use a legitimate original copy of a setup media to install a licensed copy of the software. Now, if the license was attached to that particular disk, perhaps you would have a point, but it is not. It is separate from the install media. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 11:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Steve Kelsay kels...@sctax.org wrote: It would only be piracy if they were not licensed. software piracy has no legal definition. What you suggest would still be considered copyright infringement. When you buy a copy of software, you have the right to that one copy -- that one disc. You do not have right to make additional copies unless license is granted. The license typically grants you permission to install it, and maybe make a backup. In the world of traditional payware, you're practically never granted permission to distribute additional copies, even to someone else who had a separate license. I doubt anyone would sue you over it, of course. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Gary K. Slinger Voice: 727-475-1947 // gChat gary.slin...@gmail.com // Skype: garyslinger Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/garyslinger ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
System Defragmenter malware
I just had to go clean one of my systems, because the user was infected with System Defragmenter and it wasn't letting anything run, claiming the hard drive had bad sectors. I managed to get rid of it, but I thought I'd warn you guys. it got in even with Vipre Enterprise being up-to-date and a deep scan last night. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk
Don't read too much into it. If you migrate the application from one computer to another, you just need to remove the program from the old system. Now, in your case, I would just migrate it. The XP systems will go away, eventually. Why can't you setup a Virtual Desktop, load XP in it and then do the migration from Pick Me App? That way, you can still run it on the Windows 7 system, at least till you can find a way to install it directly in Windows 7. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Steve Kelsay kels...@sctax.org wrote: What would be copyright infringement? We are not copying anything. I am asking for the use of a legitimate copy of a disk to do what that disk was sold to do, to make a licensed install of the product for which it was sold Not additional copies, no illegal copies. No unlicensed copies. They allow the setup disk to be copied to a network install location for the same purpose. What would be the difference if I copy it to that network location from my original downloaded file, disk, or another legitimate downloaded disk? *From:* Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, October 29, 2010 11:50 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk You may see no copyright infringement, but the law would generally disagree with you. It's possible you have the one installation license out there that isn't written the way Ben suggests, but I'd doubt it. Especially if it's old enough that the developer is no longer around. That's just the way those licenses were written, in general, at that time - and you can disagree with them all you want, it doesn't change them. There are very good odds that what you're asking, publicly, is technically illegal. Can you do it? Have IT Admins been doing it for years? Yup. Does asking about it on a public mailing list make sense? Not so much. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Steve Kelsay kels...@sctax.org wrote: That is all we want to do. Install it. The developer cannot provide installation media. I licensed an install. Actually, several dozen installs. I would like to do that. I see no copyright infringement if I use a legitimate original copy of a setup media to install a licensed copy of the software. Now, if the license was attached to that particular disk, perhaps you would have a point, but it is not. It is separate from the install media. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 11:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Steve Kelsay kels...@sctax.org wrote: It would only be piracy if they were not licensed. software piracy has no legal definition. What you suggest would still be considered copyright infringement. When you buy a copy of software, you have the right to that one copy -- that one disc. You do not have right to make additional copies unless license is granted. The license typically grants you permission to install it, and maybe make a backup. In the world of traditional payware, you're practically never granted permission to distribute additional copies, even to someone else who had a separate license. I doubt anyone would sue you over it, of course. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Gary K. Slinger Voice: 727-475-1947 // gChat gary.slin...@gmail.com // Skype: garyslinger Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/garyslinger ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here:
RE: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk
I'm by no means a license expert, but isn't a license tied to USE of the software, not the physical media? Maybe depends on the company? Many software vendors just put the executables right on their website for download. Heck many even put it on third party shareware websites that we all hate. You just need a license to USE it. So, is there a real difference than downloading the software from the Internet as opposed to downloading from another place on the Internet? Being rhetorical, not suggesting it is actually legal. I'm no lawyer. From: Steve Kelsay [mailto:kels...@sctax.org] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 10:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk What would be copyright infringement? We are not copying anything. I am asking for the use of a legitimate copy of a disk to do what that disk was sold to do, to make a licensed install of the product for which it was sold Not additional copies, no illegal copies. No unlicensed copies. They allow the setup disk to be copied to a network install location for the same purpose. What would be the difference if I copy it to that network location from my original downloaded file, disk, or another legitimate downloaded disk? From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 11:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk You may see no copyright infringement, but the law would generally disagree with you. It's possible you have the one installation license out there that isn't written the way Ben suggests, but I'd doubt it. Especially if it's old enough that the developer is no longer around. That's just the way those licenses were written, in general, at that time - and you can disagree with them all you want, it doesn't change them. There are very good odds that what you're asking, publicly, is technically illegal. Can you do it? Have IT Admins been doing it for years? Yup. Does asking about it on a public mailing list make sense? Not so much. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Steve Kelsay kels...@sctax.org wrote: That is all we want to do. Install it. The developer cannot provide installation media. I licensed an install. Actually, several dozen installs. I would like to do that. I see no copyright infringement if I use a legitimate original copy of a setup media to install a licensed copy of the software. Now, if the license was attached to that particular disk, perhaps you would have a point, but it is not. It is separate from the install media. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 11:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Steve Kelsay kels...@sctax.org wrote: It would only be piracy if they were not licensed. software piracy has no legal definition. What you suggest would still be considered copyright infringement. When you buy a copy of software, you have the right to that one copy -- that one disc. You do not have right to make additional copies unless license is granted. The license typically grants you permission to install it, and maybe make a backup. In the world of traditional payware, you're practically never granted permission to distribute additional copies, even to someone else who had a separate license. I doubt anyone would sue you over it, of course. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Gary K. Slinger Voice: 727-475-1947 // gChat gary.slin...@gmail.com // Skype: garyslinger Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/garyslinger ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
RE: Vipre and deployment
We still use Symantec on all our workstations. Would love to move over to Vipre. We have about a hundred workstations. Would I still have to go to all the workstations to change from Symantec to Vipre or is there now a way to do this from the server? From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 11:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vipre and deployment Yea, if I do it with the Console, I need to enable file and print services on the wkst etc... If I use a GPO, I don't. From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre and deployment You can deploy Vipre as an MSI from the console. I suppose that you can push the MSI with GP if you like. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.commailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: For you guys with experience using Vipre (I presume it's come a long way by now...) I am curious about a couple things. I gave up on Avira, my first point of support was the var in Canada who proved beyond a shadow of a doubt to be useless. Sophos required far too much reconfiguration of the wkst's and didn't offer their agent as an MSI so I could roll it out myself. Awaiting info from Kasperksy... Can the agents for Vipre be provided by MSI's so I don't have to change anything on the wkst's except maybe a port rule between it and the mgmt host after I push it via GP's? Thanks! jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: System Defragmenter malware
It is highly polymorphic and quite nasty. If you find it and VIPRE doesn't detect it, please let us know asap. Alex -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 12:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: System Defragmenter malware I just had to go clean one of my systems, because the user was infected with System Defragmenter and it wasn't letting anything run, claiming the hard drive had bad sectors. I managed to get rid of it, but I thought I'd warn you guys. it got in even with Vipre Enterprise being up-to-date and a deep scan last night. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Vipre and deployment
http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/Agent-Uninstallers/ From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 12:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vipre and deployment We still use Symantec on all our workstations. Would love to move over to Vipre. We have about a hundred workstations. Would I still have to go to all the workstations to change from Symantec to Vipre or is there now a way to do this from the server? From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 11:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vipre and deployment Yea, if I do it with the Console, I need to enable file and print services on the wkst etc... If I use a GPO, I don't. From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre and deployment You can deploy Vipre as an MSI from the console. I suppose that you can push the MSI with GP if you like. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.commailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: For you guys with experience using Vipre (I presume it's come a long way by now...) I am curious about a couple things. I gave up on Avira, my first point of support was the var in Canada who proved beyond a shadow of a doubt to be useless. Sophos required far too much reconfiguration of the wkst's and didn't offer their agent as an MSI so I could roll it out myself. Awaiting info from Kasperksy... Can the agents for Vipre be provided by MSI's so I don't have to change anything on the wkst's except maybe a port rule between it and the mgmt host after I push it via GP's? Thanks! jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Vipre and deployment
Sunbelt should have a tool to automate the removal of Symantec for you. Check with them to be sure. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Holstrom, Don dholst...@nbm.org wrote: We still use Symantec on all our workstations. Would love to move over to Vipre. We have about a hundred workstations. Would I still have to go to all the workstations to change from Symantec to Vipre or is there now a way to do this from the server? *From:* Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] *Sent:* Friday, October 29, 2010 11:56 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Vipre and deployment Yea, if I do it with the Console, I need to enable file and print services on the wkst etc… If I use a GPO, I don’t. *From:* Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, October 29, 2010 9:55 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Vipre and deployment You can deploy Vipre as an MSI from the console. I suppose that you can push the MSI with GP if you like. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: For you guys with experience using Vipre (I presume it’s come a long way by now…) I am curious about a couple things. I gave up on Avira, my first point of support was the var in Canada who proved beyond a shadow of a doubt to be useless. Sophos required far too much reconfiguration of the wkst’s and didn’t offer their agent as an MSI so I could roll it out myself. Awaiting info from Kasperksy… Can the agents for Vipre be provided by MSI’s so I don’t have to change anything on the wkst’s except maybe a port rule between it and the mgmt host after I push it via GP’s? Thanks! jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: System Defragmenter malware
cough Admin rights /cough Seriously, if you can't give up giving admin rights for political reasons consider creating an account which has local admin rights that users can use and move users standar accounts to nonadmin rights. In my environment, we were running with admin rights, but we afford our employees enough freedom to install software to do their jobs as necessary. Creating an account with admin rights was the best way for us to move forward. Employees are still bound to AUPs which stipulate that software not interfere with business use of applications. I don't care for the common local admin account myself, but I don't chase malware nearly as often. It's been once in the two years since the change. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Alex Eckelberry al...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: It is highly polymorphic and quite nasty. If you find it and VIPRE doesn't detect it, please let us know asap. Alex -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 12:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: System Defragmenter malware I just had to go clean one of my systems, because the user was infected with System Defragmenter and it wasn't letting anything run, claiming the hard drive had bad sectors. I managed to get rid of it, but I thought I'd warn you guys. it got in even with Vipre Enterprise being up-to-date and a deep scan last night. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk
+1. I think the main thing is that everyone is speculating on what the license agreement actually says. Unless someone knows what the license agreement actually says, nobody here can say whether what the OP was requesting was legal or not. From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 12:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk I'm by no means a license expert, but isn't a license tied to USE of the software, not the physical media? Maybe depends on the company? Many software vendors just put the executables right on their website for download. Heck many even put it on third party shareware websites that we all hate. You just need a license to USE it. So, is there a real difference than downloading the software from the Internet as opposed to downloading from another place on the Internet? Being rhetorical, not suggesting it is actually legal. I'm no lawyer. From: Steve Kelsay [mailto:kels...@sctax.org] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 10:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk What would be copyright infringement? We are not copying anything. I am asking for the use of a legitimate copy of a disk to do what that disk was sold to do, to make a licensed install of the product for which it was sold Not additional copies, no illegal copies. No unlicensed copies. They allow the setup disk to be copied to a network install location for the same purpose. What would be the difference if I copy it to that network location from my original downloaded file, disk, or another legitimate downloaded disk? From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 11:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk You may see no copyright infringement, but the law would generally disagree with you. It's possible you have the one installation license out there that isn't written the way Ben suggests, but I'd doubt it. Especially if it's old enough that the developer is no longer around. That's just the way those licenses were written, in general, at that time - and you can disagree with them all you want, it doesn't change them. There are very good odds that what you're asking, publicly, is technically illegal. Can you do it? Have IT Admins been doing it for years? Yup. Does asking about it on a public mailing list make sense? Not so much. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Steve Kelsay kels...@sctax.org wrote: That is all we want to do. Install it. The developer cannot provide installation media. I licensed an install. Actually, several dozen installs. I would like to do that. I see no copyright infringement if I use a legitimate original copy of a setup media to install a licensed copy of the software. Now, if the license was attached to that particular disk, perhaps you would have a point, but it is not. It is separate from the install media. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 11:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Steve Kelsay kels...@sctax.org wrote: It would only be piracy if they were not licensed. software piracy has no legal definition. What you suggest would still be considered copyright infringement. When you buy a copy of software, you have the right to that one copy -- that one disc. You do not have right to make additional copies unless license is granted. The license typically grants you permission to install it, and maybe make a backup. In the world of traditional payware, you're practically never granted permission to distribute additional copies, even to someone else who had a separate license. I doubt anyone would sue you over it, of course. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Gary K. Slinger Voice: 727-475-1947 // gChat gary.slin...@gmail.com // Skype: garyslinger Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/garyslinger ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
RE: Vipre and deployment
I can't speak for Symantec, but at least for AVG 8.5, Vipre's uninstaller didn't do a very good job of removing it, and several times I had to go to the local machine and manually delete the service. YMMV, though. From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 12:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vipre and deployment http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/Agent-Uninstallers/ From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 12:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vipre and deployment We still use Symantec on all our workstations. Would love to move over to Vipre. We have about a hundred workstations. Would I still have to go to all the workstations to change from Symantec to Vipre or is there now a way to do this from the server? From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 11:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vipre and deployment Yea, if I do it with the Console, I need to enable file and print services on the wkst etc If I use a GPO, I dont. From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre and deployment You can deploy Vipre as an MSI from the console. I suppose that you can push the MSI with GP if you like. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: For you guys with experience using Vipre (I presume its come a long way by now ) I am curious about a couple things. I gave up on Avira, my first point of support was the var in Canada who proved beyond a shadow of a doubt to be useless. Sophos required far too much reconfiguration of the wksts and didnt offer their agent as an MSI so I could roll it out myself. Awaiting info from Kasperksy Can the agents for Vipre be provided by MSIs so I dont have to change anything on the wksts except maybe a port rule between it and the mgmt host after I push it via GPs? Thanks! jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: System Defragmenter malware
The user in question did NOT have admin rights. Trust me on this... I couldn't even update Java as that user. I had to log that user out and log in as myself to update Java. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 12:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: System Defragmenter malware cough Admin rights /cough Seriously, if you can't give up giving admin rights for political reasons consider creating an account which has local admin rights that users can use and move users standar accounts to nonadmin rights. In my environment, we were running with admin rights, but we afford our employees enough freedom to install software to do their jobs as necessary. Creating an account with admin rights was the best way for us to move forward. Employees are still bound to AUPs which stipulate that software not interfere with business use of applications. I don't care for the common local admin account myself, but I don't chase malware nearly as often. It's been once in the two years since the change. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Alex Eckelberry al...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: It is highly polymorphic and quite nasty. If you find it and VIPRE doesn't detect it, please let us know asap. Alex -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 12:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: System Defragmenter malware I just had to go clean one of my systems, because the user was infected with System Defragmenter and it wasn't letting anything run, claiming the hard drive had bad sectors. I managed to get rid of it, but I thought I'd warn you guys. it got in even with Vipre Enterprise being up-to-date and a deep scan last night. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: System Defragmenter malware
Well, I have seen that, too, unfortunately. Usually when some ad gets slipped in on frequented news sites. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 1:11 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote: The user in question did NOT have admin rights. Trust me on this... I couldn't even update Java as that user. I had to log that user out and log in as myself to update Java. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 12:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: System Defragmenter malware cough Admin rights /cough Seriously, if you can't give up giving admin rights for political reasons consider creating an account which has local admin rights that users can use and move users standar accounts to nonadmin rights. In my environment, we were running with admin rights, but we afford our employees enough freedom to install software to do their jobs as necessary. Creating an account with admin rights was the best way for us to move forward. Employees are still bound to AUPs which stipulate that software not interfere with business use of applications. I don't care for the common local admin account myself, but I don't chase malware nearly as often. It's been once in the two years since the change. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Alex Eckelberry al...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: It is highly polymorphic and quite nasty. If you find it and VIPRE doesn't detect it, please let us know asap. Alex -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 12:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: System Defragmenter malware I just had to go clean one of my systems, because the user was infected with System Defragmenter and it wasn't letting anything run, claiming the hard drive had bad sectors. I managed to get rid of it, but I thought I'd warn you guys. it got in even with Vipre Enterprise being up-to-date and a deep scan last night. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Citrix web interface query
Did you get this resolved yet? Webster From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Subject: Re: Citrix web interface query Yes, got all the appropriate entries in there. The logon works fine if I specify credentials from the old domains. It's just when I supply a username and password from the new domain - it barfs out the invalid credentials error. I can access file shares and such like in the old domains under a new domain userid, so I'm a bit confused as to why the PNAgent logon won't go. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?
On 29 Oct 2010 at 8:28, Gary Slinger wrote: Good point. S510. So when you scan stuff from your trade rags, you cut the pages out first? -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk
On 29 Oct 2010 at 9:30, Steve Kelsay wrote: We lost our setup disks. HELP! Can anyone help? This is out of maintenance and the setups are no longer available. We are rolling out new machines, and need it! [G,D,RLH] Good luck with that Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Google Search FREE SOFTWARE Listing -(f). DOWNLOAD NOW! Flow Chart PDQ 1.1x Floppy Image v2.3.1 ... Floppy Image v 2.3 Floppy Image 2.1 FlopImager v2.1 ... Flow Chart PDQ v1.1x Floppy Image v2.30 ... www.beyondstats.com/software/free.../F/.../2400.htm - Cached - Similar - Filter http://www.google.com/search?num=30hl=ensafe=offclient=firefox-ahs=poYrls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficialq=Flowchart+PDQ+version+1.1aq=faqi=aql=oq=gs_rfai= -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Vipre and deployment
Unless the uninstaller has changed, it didn't work very well for us either with Symantec. It ended up being easier to remove it from each workstation and then push down the Vipre agent. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 1:10 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote: I can't speak for Symantec, but at least for AVG 8.5, Vipre's uninstaller didn't do a very good job of removing it, and several times I had to go to the local machine and manually delete the service. YMMV, though. From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 12:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vipre and deployment http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/Agent-Uninstallers/ From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 12:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vipre and deployment We still use Symantec on all our workstations. Would love to move over to Vipre. We have about a hundred workstations. Would I still have to go to all the workstations to change from Symantec to Vipre or is there now a way to do this from the server? From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 11:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vipre and deployment Yea, if I do it with the Console, I need to enable file and print services on the wkst etc… If I use a GPO, I don’t. From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre and deployment You can deploy Vipre as an MSI from the console. I suppose that you can push the MSI with GP if you like. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: For you guys with experience using Vipre (I presume it’s come a long way by now…) I am curious about a couple things. I gave up on Avira, my first point of support was the var in Canada who proved beyond a shadow of a doubt to be useless. Sophos required far too much reconfiguration of the wkst’s and didn’t offer their agent as an MSI so I could roll it out myself. Awaiting info from Kasperksy… Can the agents for Vipre be provided by MSI’s so I don’t have to change anything on the wkst’s except maybe a port rule between it and the mgmt host after I push it via GP’s? Thanks! jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Vipre and deployment
It removed McCrappee from a few workstations and a server just fine when I was demoing it. Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 2:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre and deployment Unless the uninstaller has changed, it didn't work very well for us either with Symantec. It ended up being easier to remove it from each workstation and then push down the Vipre agent. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 1:10 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I can't speak for Symantec, but at least for AVG 8.5, Vipre's uninstaller didn't do a very good job of removing it, and several times I had to go to the local machine and manually delete the service. YMMV, though. From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 12:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vipre and deployment http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/Agent-Uninstallers/ From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 12:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vipre and deployment We still use Symantec on all our workstations. Would love to move over to Vipre. We have about a hundred workstations. Would I still have to go to all the workstations to change from Symantec to Vipre or is there now a way to do this from the server? From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 11:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vipre and deployment Yea, if I do it with the Console, I need to enable file and print services on the wkst etc... If I use a GPO, I don't. From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre and deployment You can deploy Vipre as an MSI from the console. I suppose that you can push the MSI with GP if you like. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: For you guys with experience using Vipre (I presume it's come a long way by now...) I am curious about a couple things. I gave up on Avira, my first point of support was the var in Canada who proved beyond a shadow of a doubt to be useless. Sophos required far too much reconfiguration of the wkst's and didn't offer their agent as an MSI so I could roll it out myself. Awaiting info from Kasperksy... Can the agents for Vipre be provided by MSI's so I don't have to change anything on the wkst's except maybe a port rule between it and the mgmt host after I push it via GP's? Thanks! jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
Re: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?
I don't find myself saving a lot from trade rags, but there are exceptions, and yes - rip, scan, trash. Straight to a PDF which initially goes in to an inbox folder in my scanner's app. Once a month I purge that folder, file things away (e.g. bank statements) as personal, read and trash if it was short-term, or move over to Evernote if I want it for longer term archive/reference. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming angu...@geoapps.comwrote: On 29 Oct 2010 at 8:28, Gary Slinger wrote: Good point. S510. So when you scan stuff from your trade rags, you cut the pages out first? -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Gary K. Slinger Voice: 727-475-1947 // gChat gary.slin...@gmail.com // Skype: garyslinger Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/garyslinger ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
OT: SDM Software’s new GP Reporting Pak?
Anyone using this ? http://www.sdmsoftware.com/blog/ If so, I'd like to hear feedback on how you like it. Looks like the perfect tool for a project I'm working on. Just got off the phone with the sales guy. Waiting on pricing. He told me it's licensed by the number of GPOs in your environment. Thinking it might be pricey. Chris Bodnar, MCSE Systems Engineer Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: SDM Software’s new GP Report ing Pak?
I am not using that tool in particular but have use others of theirs. Pricing is negotiable with anybody J I have known the principal of that endeavor for quite some time and he’s beyond reproach IMHO and as good as it gets WRT GPOs outside MS. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 11:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: SDM Software’s new GP Reporting Pak? Anyone using this ? http://www.sdmsoftware.com/blog/ http://www.sdmsoftware.com/blog/ If so, I'd like to hear feedback on how you like it. Looks like the perfect tool for a project I'm working on. Just got off the phone with the sales guy. Waiting on pricing. He told me it's licensed by the number of GPOs in your environment. Thinking it might be pricey. Chris Bodnar, MCSE Systems Engineer Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
“Great Plains users on a few servers, EMR on another, another bunch of servers for general apps. Not possible in Terminal Server” Huh? Are you talking about this scenario? “Your customer wants to install and then publish an application to 3 out of 5 new 2008 based Terminal Servers in their new farm and load balance that application across the 3 servers in question (but remember, they are not licensed for the application to publish it across the remaining 2 servers). Now this is a typical example of the kind of administration and application deployment that can happen every day in a Citrix environment, but there is a slight problem here. They would need to split the farm containing the 5 servers in two, because a farm in the Terminal Services 2008 sense is a group of servers that are configured identically with applications and the remaining 2 servers are not.“ I ask because in the strict sense you can put some apps on some TS servers but not others. I’m wondering at what scale it makes sense to choose XenApp vs. TS 2K8? We, for example have all of 15 licenses for Citrix (and have got by with just one server) and have been that way for over 3 years. I just kicked up to 50 CAL’s of W2K8 TS and am creating a simple TS farm of 3 servers, but your comments make me curious… Dave From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 8:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? I did just that, Webster. I tried to save our organization some money by using Terminal Server 2008 for our enterprise medical system. That lasted maybe a year of constant issues. Meanwhile my XenApp systems hummed along quietly. Currently I am moving the Terminal Servers XenApp systems. One thing I really like about XenApp is siloing. Great Plains users on a few servers, EMR on another, another bunch of servers for general apps. Not possible in Terminal Server. So the money I saved was burned by man hours supporting it. Webster carlwebs...@gmail.com 10/29/2010 10:12 AM “I’d love to hear why people would recommend Citrix over TS 2008” http://www.dabcc.com/article.aspx?id=9771 At my previous employer, we had several customers that tried moving from Presentation Server 4.5 to TS2008, gave up and moved back. IMNSHO, TS2008 just doesn’t scale well for large enterprises unless you have some very experienced people around. Webster From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Last I checked TS licensing was far cheaper than Citrix – see if there’s a big price delta. If yes, then see if there’s any reason the cheaper solution wouldn’t work. If no big price difference do you have any in-house knowledge that knows one app better than the other? I am in the midst of standing up 2008 Terminal Servers to replace our aging Citrix Metaframe and 2008 R2 TS is very easy to set up. To add into this question, I’d love to hear why people would recommend Citrix over TS 2008. TS 2008’s application management is far better than previous Terminal Server versions. From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? It’ll be Server 2008 R2, 64-bit. From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Windows??? Do you mean 2003, 2008 or R2? If 2003 or 2008, 32-bit or 64-bit? Webster From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Windows – the application is Tessitura (http://www.tessitura-network.org), and is used for CRM Ticketing for arts organizations. From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? What OS will you be hosting the application on? From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Hello, We’re looking at hosting an application for several other arts organizations. My thinking is that we should use one of these two technologies – but I’m not sure which one. We’re behind an ISA 2006 firewall, and we’re looking at increasing our internet pipe to Cavalier’s Ethernet over Copper product (from a T-1) at 5M. Whichever setup we go with, what logon set-up would be best – we’re running a 2003 AD (soon to be 2008 R2). ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not
RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
Where is that from? That's a bit confusing. Is that saying you can or cannot silo your applications in Terminal Server 2008? Don't know about R2. Is that new to R2? Because my 2008 Terminal Server Resource book points out that all servers need to have identical application installations. In any case the quote makes it look bad to silo applications. It is not. It is merely a method by which to segregate servers to which users are directed. I would not want my Great Plains users and EMR users to be on the same server running those concurrently, as both are enormous resources hogs. David Lum david@nwea.org 10/29/2010 3:03 PM “Great Plains users on a few servers, EMR on another, another bunch of servers for general apps. Not possible in Terminal Server” Huh? Are you talking about this scenario? “Your customer wants to install and then publish an application to 3 out of 5 new 2008 based Terminal Servers in their new farm and load balance that application across the 3 servers in question (but remember, they are not licensed for the application to publish it across the remaining 2 servers). Now this is a typical example of the kind of administration and application deployment that can happen every day in a Citrix environment, but there is a slight problem here. They would need to split the farm containing the 5 servers in two, because a farm in the Terminal Services 2008 sense is a group of servers that are configured identically with applications and the remaining 2 servers are not.“ I ask because in the strict sense you can put some apps on some TS servers but not others. I’m wondering at what scale it makes sense to choose XenApp vs. TS 2K8? We, for example have all of 15 licenses for Citrix (and have got by with just one server) and have been that way for over 3 years. I just kicked up to 50 CAL’s of W2K8 TS and am creating a simple TS farm of 3 servers, but your comments make me curious… Dave From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 8:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? I did just that, Webster. I tried to save our organization some money by using Terminal Server 2008 for our enterprise medical system. That lasted maybe a year of constant issues. Meanwhile my XenApp systems hummed along quietly. Currently I am moving the Terminal Servers XenApp systems. One thing I really like about XenApp is siloing. Great Plains users on a few servers, EMR on another, another bunch of servers for general apps. Not possible in Terminal Server. So the money I saved was burned by man hours supporting it. Webster carlwebs...@gmail.com 10/29/2010 10:12 AM “I’d love to hear why people would recommend Citrix over TS 2008” http://www.dabcc.com/article.aspx?id=9771 At my previous employer, we had several customers that tried moving from Presentation Server 4.5 to TS2008, gave up and moved back. IMNSHO, TS2008 just doesn’t scale well for large enterprises unless you have some very experienced people around. Webster From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Last I checked TS licensing was far cheaper than Citrix – see if there’s a big price delta. If yes, then see if there’s any reason the cheaper solution wouldn’t work. If no big price difference do you have any in-house knowledge that knows one app better than the other? I am in the midst of standing up 2008 Terminal Servers to replace our aging Citrix Metaframe and 2008 R2 TS is very easy to set up. To add into this question, I’d love to hear why people would recommend Citrix over TS 2008. TS 2008’s application management is far better than previous Terminal Server versions. From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? It’ll be Server 2008 R2, 64-bit. From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Windows??? Do you mean 2003, 2008 or R2? If 2003 or 2008, 32-bit or 64-bit? Webster From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Windows – the application is Tessitura (http://www.tessitura-network.org), and is used for CRM Ticketing for arts organizations. From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? What OS will you be hosting the application on? From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Hello, We’re looking at hosting an application for several other arts organizations. My thinking is that we should use one of these two technologies – but I’m not sure which one. We’re behind an ISA 2006 firewall, and we’re looking at increasing our internet pipe to Cavalier’s Ethernet over Copper product (from a T-1) at 5M. Whichever setup we go with, what logon set-up would be best –
RE: SDM Software’s new GP Reporting Pak?
Agreed you will be happy with them. I also know the key person there well. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c – 312.731.3132 From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 1:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: SDM Software’s new GP Reporting Pak? I am not using that tool in particular but have use others of theirs. Pricing is negotiable with anybody ☺ I have known the principal of that endeavor for quite some time and he’s beyond reproach IMHO and as good as it gets WRT GPOs outside MS. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 11:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: SDM Software’s new GP Reporting Pak? Anyone using this ? http://www.sdmsoftware.com/blog/ If so, I'd like to hear feedback on how you like it. Looks like the perfect tool for a project I'm working on. Just got off the phone with the sales guy. Waiting on pricing. He told me it's licensed by the number of GPOs in your environment. Thinking it might be pricey. Chris Bodnar, MCSE Systems Engineer Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Steve Kelsay kels...@sctax.org wrote: I see no copyright infringement if I use a legitimate original copy of a setup media to install a licensed copy of the software. One thing everyone should understand: What you or I think *should* be the way things work doesn't matter. I'm describing the law -- the reality of the situation. Copyright law doesn't care that you had a license for your copy. If you and I both buy a copy of the same book, and you loose your copy, I don't have the right to make a copy for you. The same applies to software or anything else protected under copyright law. If the license I have specifically grants me the right to make copies for other people who also have a license to use the software, that would be okay, but I've never heard of such a thing for payware, and I would be quite astonished to learn of it. Making copies for others is usually explicitly forbidden, in very strong language. There is a copyright concept called fair use. For example, making a backup copy for yourself is considered fair use. Ripping a CD to MP3 for use on your own MP3 player is considered fair use. I suppose you could argue me making a copy for you is fair use, but I'd be surprised if a court accepted that, especially in the current legal climate. That said, I'm haven't done a case law search. If people here don't like this, I suggest you write your congressional representatives and ask them to consider the rights of consumers as well as copyright holders. I wouldn't hold out much hope for that, though; the copyright cartels (RIAA, BSA, etc.) practically own congress. Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, but I expect I have studied copyright law more than most laymen. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
That’s verbatim from the link Webster provided. By silo, do you mean say 3 servers with apps A,B and C, 2 servers with D and E? Can’t you do that with TS servers? You’d just have 2 TS farms right and they wouldn’t necessarily need to know the other farm exists so it wouldn’t matter that the 2 servers aren’t identical to the two others. I’m obviously missing something here… I have 3 TS machines here – not in a farm yet – and two are identical to each other and the 3rd is completely different, so the different one probably can’t be part of a farm that the other two are in, right? Dave From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 12:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Where is that from? That's a bit confusing. Is that saying you can or cannot silo your applications in Terminal Server 2008? Don't know about R2. Is that new to R2? Because my 2008 Terminal Server Resource book points out that all servers need to have identical application installations. In any case the quote makes it look bad to silo applications. It is not. It is merely a method by which to segregate servers to which users are directed. I would not want my Great Plains users and EMR users to be on the same server running those concurrently, as both are enormous resources hogs. David Lum david@nwea.org 10/29/2010 3:03 PM “Great Plains users on a few servers, EMR on another, another bunch of servers for general apps. Not possible in Terminal Server” Huh? Are you talking about this scenario? “Your customer wants to install and then publish an application to 3 out of 5 new 2008 based Terminal Servers in their new farm and load balance that application across the 3 servers in question (but remember, they are not licensed for the application to publish it across the remaining 2 servers). Now this is a typical example of the kind of administration and application deployment that can happen every day in a Citrix environment, but there is a slight problem here. They would need to split the farm containing the 5 servers in two, because a farm in the Terminal Services 2008 sense is a group of servers that are configured identically with applications and the remaining 2 servers are not.“ I ask because in the strict sense you can put some apps on some TS servers but not others. I’m wondering at what scale it makes sense to choose XenApp vs. TS 2K8? We, for example have all of 15 licenses for Citrix (and have got by with just one server) and have been that way for over 3 years. I just kicked up to 50 CAL’s of W2K8 TS and am creating a simple TS farm of 3 servers, but your comments make me curious… Dave From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 8:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? I did just that, Webster. I tried to save our organization some money by using Terminal Server 2008 for our enterprise medical system. That lasted maybe a year of constant issues. Meanwhile my XenApp systems hummed along quietly. Currently I am moving the Terminal Servers XenApp systems. One thing I really like about XenApp is siloing. Great Plains users on a few servers, EMR on another, another bunch of servers for general apps. Not possible in Terminal Server. So the money I saved was burned by man hours supporting it. Webster carlwebs...@gmail.com 10/29/2010 10:12 AM “I’d love to hear why people would recommend Citrix over TS 2008” http://www.dabcc.com/article.aspx?id=9771 At my previous employer, we had several customers that tried moving from Presentation Server 4.5 to TS2008, gave up and moved back. IMNSHO, TS2008 just doesn’t scale well for large enterprises unless you have some very experienced people around. Webster From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Last I checked TS licensing was far cheaper than Citrix – see if there’s a big price delta. If yes, then see if there’s any reason the cheaper solution wouldn’t work. If no big price difference do you have any in-house knowledge that knows one app better than the other? I am in the midst of standing up 2008 Terminal Servers to replace our aging Citrix Metaframe and 2008 R2 TS is very easy to set up. To add into this question, I’d love to hear why people would recommend Citrix over TS 2008. TS 2008’s application management is far better than previous Terminal Server versions. From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? It’ll be Server 2008 R2, 64-bit. From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Windows??? Do you mean 2003, 2008 or R2? If 2003 or 2008, 32-bit or 64-bit? Webster From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Windows – the application is
Re: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: I’m by no means a license expert, but isn’t a license tied to USE of the software, not the physical media? License agreements typically attempt to cover all sorts of things. One of the things licenses cover is copyright permissions. If they didn't, installing software from CD to your hard disk would potentially be considered copyright infringement (although fair use would probabbly cover it anyway). This part of the license is backed up by force of copyright law. The copyright holder can file a civil suit against you if you infringe. Licenses may also attempt to cover use. This is not part of copyright law. My understanding of this aspect is much more limited. As I understand it, software publishers generally argue the license agreement is a contract, and thus you agree to follow their terms of use, or subject yourself to whatever penalties the contract specifies. The enforceability of license agreements as a legally-binding contract is somewhat murky. You usually don't get to see the license until after you've paid, and you usually don't have to sign anything, and I'm told both of those are no-no's in the world of contract law. That said, I've not studied this stuff extensively, so the software publisher view may have more legal currency then I think. But any restrictions on use (enforceable or not) are independent of copyright law. The OP is asking for someone to make a copy, not about use. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
Okay I understand you. Yes, your definition is correct. On XenApp servers though, a farm is your collection of servers. Some may have one app, others different applications. Or you can have multiple farms to keep admin/availability separate. It's based on preference and politics. I have one farm but apps on different servers. As for your TS machines, I cannot speak to R2, so it might be different in that version. In 2008 you want to have all apps installed on all terminal servers. This is because the session broker routes to any server, and you cannot define which servers are to be used for particular applications. Perhaps someone on the list with R2 can confirm/correct me here. Tom David Lum david@nwea.org 10/29/2010 3:55 PM That’s verbatim from the link Webster provided. By silo, do you mean say 3 servers with apps A,B and C, 2 servers with D and E? Can’t you do that with TS servers? You’d just have 2 TS farms right and they wouldn’t necessarily need to know the other farm exists so it wouldn’t matter that the 2 servers aren’t identical to the two others. I’m obviously missing something here… I have 3 TS machines here – not in a farm yet – and two are identical to each other and the 3rd is completely different, so the different one probably can’t be part of a farm that the other two are in, right? Dave From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 12:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Where is that from? That's a bit confusing. Is that saying you can or cannot silo your applications in Terminal Server 2008? Don't know about R2. Is that new to R2? Because my 2008 Terminal Server Resource book points out that all servers need to have identical application installations. In any case the quote makes it look bad to silo applications. It is not. It is merely a method by which to segregate servers to which users are directed. I would not want my Great Plains users and EMR users to be on the same server running those concurrently, as both are enormous resources hogs. David Lum david@nwea.org 10/29/2010 3:03 PM “Great Plains users on a few servers, EMR on another, another bunch of servers for general apps. Not possible in Terminal Server” Huh? Are you talking about this scenario? “Your customer wants to install and then publish an application to 3 out of 5 new 2008 based Terminal Servers in their new farm and load balance that application across the 3 servers in question (but remember, they are not licensed for the application to publish it across the remaining 2 servers). Now this is a typical example of the kind of administration and application deployment that can happen every day in a Citrix environment, but there is a slight problem here. They would need to split the farm containing the 5 servers in two, because a farm in the Terminal Services 2008 sense is a group of servers that are configured identically with applications and the remaining 2 servers are not.“ I ask because in the strict sense you can put some apps on some TS servers but not others. I’m wondering at what scale it makes sense to choose XenApp vs. TS 2K8? We, for example have all of 15 licenses for Citrix (and have got by with just one server) and have been that way for over 3 years. I just kicked up to 50 CAL’s of W2K8 TS and am creating a simple TS farm of 3 servers, but your comments make me curious… Dave From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 8:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? I did just that, Webster. I tried to save our organization some money by using Terminal Server 2008 for our enterprise medical system. That lasted maybe a year of constant issues. Meanwhile my XenApp systems hummed along quietly. Currently I am moving the Terminal Servers XenApp systems. One thing I really like about XenApp is siloing. Great Plains users on a few servers, EMR on another, another bunch of servers for general apps. Not possible in Terminal Server. So the money I saved was burned by man hours supporting it. Webster carlwebs...@gmail.com 10/29/2010 10:12 AM “I’d love to hear why people would recommend Citrix over TS 2008” http://www.dabcc.com/article.aspx?id=9771 At my previous employer, we had several customers that tried moving from Presentation Server 4.5 to TS2008, gave up and moved back. IMNSHO, TS2008 just doesn’t scale well for large enterprises unless you have some very experienced people around. Webster From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Last I checked TS licensing was far cheaper than Citrix – see if there’s a big price delta. If yes, then see if there’s any reason the cheaper solution wouldn’t work. If no big price difference do you have any in-house knowledge that knows one app better than the other?
RE: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk
To use your metaphor, no one is asking you to make a copy of your book. I am asking if you will loan me your book for the original legitimate and legal purpose. You are all reading into the request things that were not asked, for purposes of the discussion. I was looking for an original installation disk. Not a copy. One that was sold for the purpose of installing one licensed copy on each machine for which a license was purchased. They provided one installation disk without limit to the number of copies to be installed, so long as each copy installed was covered by a license. That is what we wanted to do. They are not able to replace the lost or damaged disk since the version in use is no longer supported. So we are trying to do locate one online. No one is trying to make a copy of licensed software. Or install unpurchased copies. Never mind. It is not worth the continuing arguments this is generating. Thanks anyway. By the way, in the same vein, be sure not to use anything but the very install disks you got with your individual copy of your server software to do reinstall. That would also be copyright infringement according to all the people that have just said so. And no network installs. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 3:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Steve Kelsay kels...@sctax.org wrote: I see no copyright infringement if I use a legitimate original copy of a setup media to install a licensed copy of the software. One thing everyone should understand: What you or I think *should* be the way things work doesn't matter. I'm describing the law -- the reality of the situation. Copyright law doesn't care that you had a license for your copy. If you and I both buy a copy of the same book, and you loose your copy, I don't have the right to make a copy for you. The same applies to software or anything else protected under copyright law. If the license I have specifically grants me the right to make copies for other people who also have a license to use the software, that would be okay, but I've never heard of such a thing for payware, and I would be quite astonished to learn of it. Making copies for others is usually explicitly forbidden, in very strong language. There is a copyright concept called fair use. For example, making a backup copy for yourself is considered fair use. Ripping a CD to MP3 for use on your own MP3 player is considered fair use. I suppose you could argue me making a copy for you is fair use, but I'd be surprised if a court accepted that, especially in the current legal climate. That said, I'm haven't done a case law search. If people here don't like this, I suggest you write your congressional representatives and ask them to consider the rights of consumers as well as copyright holders. I wouldn't hold out much hope for that, though; the copyright cartels (RIAA, BSA, etc.) practically own congress. Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, but I expect I have studied copyright law more than most laymen. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
Ahh…so if servers aren’t identical then you have to use a different session broker for each group. That article (I didn’t read it all until about an hour ago) was quite insightful and I see TS is aimed at smaller shops like mine. Good to know that if I want to scale outward very much that XenApp is something to be seriously considered, especially in high availability and management. I also just looked at the 2008 R2 changes from straight 2008 (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/whats-new.aspx) and don’t see any Terminal Server changes. Dave From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 1:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Okay I understand you. Yes, your definition is correct. On XenApp servers though, a farm is your collection of servers. Some may have one app, others different applications. Or you can have multiple farms to keep admin/availability separate. It's based on preference and politics. I have one farm but apps on different servers. As for your TS machines, I cannot speak to R2, so it might be different in that version. In 2008 you want to have all apps installed on all terminal servers. This is because the session broker routes to any server, and you cannot define which servers are to be used for particular applications. Perhaps someone on the list with R2 can confirm/correct me here. Tom David Lum david@nwea.org 10/29/2010 3:55 PM That’s verbatim from the link Webster provided. By silo, do you mean say 3 servers with apps A,B and C, 2 servers with D and E? Can’t you do that with TS servers? You’d just have 2 TS farms right and they wouldn’t necessarily need to know the other farm exists so it wouldn’t matter that the 2 servers aren’t identical to the two others. I’m obviously missing something here… I have 3 TS machines here – not in a farm yet – and two are identical to each other and the 3rd is completely different, so the different one probably can’t be part of a farm that the other two are in, right? Dave From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 12:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Where is that from? That's a bit confusing. Is that saying you can or cannot silo your applications in Terminal Server 2008? Don't know about R2. Is that new to R2? Because my 2008 Terminal Server Resource book points out that all servers need to have identical application installations. In any case the quote makes it look bad to silo applications. It is not. It is merely a method by which to segregate servers to which users are directed. I would not want my Great Plains users and EMR users to be on the same server running those concurrently, as both are enormous resources hogs. David Lum david@nwea.org 10/29/2010 3:03 PM “Great Plains users on a few servers, EMR on another, another bunch of servers for general apps. Not possible in Terminal Server” Huh? Are you talking about this scenario? “Your customer wants to install and then publish an application to 3 out of 5 new 2008 based Terminal Servers in their new farm and load balance that application across the 3 servers in question (but remember, they are not licensed for the application to publish it across the remaining 2 servers). Now this is a typical example of the kind of administration and application deployment that can happen every day in a Citrix environment, but there is a slight problem here. They would need to split the farm containing the 5 servers in two, because a farm in the Terminal Services 2008 sense is a group of servers that are configured identically with applications and the remaining 2 servers are not.“ I ask because in the strict sense you can put some apps on some TS servers but not others. I’m wondering at what scale it makes sense to choose XenApp vs. TS 2K8? We, for example have all of 15 licenses for Citrix (and have got by with just one server) and have been that way for over 3 years. I just kicked up to 50 CAL’s of W2K8 TS and am creating a simple TS farm of 3 servers, but your comments make me curious… Dave From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 8:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? I did just that, Webster. I tried to save our organization some money by using Terminal Server 2008 for our enterprise medical system. That lasted maybe a year of constant issues. Meanwhile my XenApp systems hummed along quietly. Currently I am moving the Terminal Servers XenApp systems. One thing I really like about XenApp is siloing. Great Plains users on a few servers, EMR on another, another bunch of servers for general apps. Not possible in Terminal Server. So the money I saved was burned by man hours supporting it. Webster carlwebs...@gmail.com 10/29/2010 10:12 AM “I’d love to
Re: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server?
I would say it makes sense to have the same hardware config, but not that that's an absolute requirement. Doesn't the thread say that the application installations should be identical instead? This being so they act the same way regardless of which TS server a user hits when they start the application. We use Citrix vs TS as our platform so I can't say too much about TS. However, in our citrix farm, we have about 60 servers running mps 4.5. We have what we call Silos. For example, the MS Office SIlo may have 6 servers. They aren't all the exact same hardware, but they all use the exact same Office installation, settings, patches, etc. Same for some of our home grown applications - one of them has 4 servers and 3 of the servers are the same hardware and OS(Windows Server 2000), 1 happened to have been upgraded to server 2003 on a new box, but the application installation, configuration, drive letters, etc. are all the same and it works fine (at least in our farm). Don K From: David Lum david@nwea.org To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Fri, October 29, 2010 2:55:43 PM Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? That’s verbatim from the link Webster provided. By silo, do you mean say 3 servers with apps A,B and C, 2 servers with D and E? Can’t you do that with TS servers? You’d just have 2 TS farms right and they wouldn’t necessarily need to know the other farm exists so it wouldn’t matter that the 2 servers aren’t identical to the two others. I’m obviously missing something here… I have 3 TS machines here – not in a farm yet – and two are identical to each other and the 3rd is completely different, so the different one probably can’t be part of a farm that the other two are in, right? Dave From:Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 12:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Where is that from? That's a bit confusing. Is that saying you can or cannot silo your applications in Terminal Server 2008? Don't know about R2. Is that new to R2? Because my 2008 Terminal Server Resource book points out that all servers need to have identical application installations. In any case the quote makes it look bad to silo applications. It is not. It is merely a method by which to segregate servers to which users are directed. I would not want my Great Plains users and EMR users to be on the same server running those concurrently, as both are enormous resources hogs. David Lum david@nwea.org 10/29/2010 3:03 PM “Great Plains users on a few servers, EMR on another, another bunch of servers for general apps. Not possible in Terminal Server” Huh? Are you talking about this scenario? “Your customer wants to install and then publish an application to 3 out of 5 new 2008 based Terminal Servers in their new farm and load balance that application across the 3 servers in question (but remember, they are not licensed for the application to publish it across the remaining 2 servers). Now this is a typical example of the kind of administration and application deployment that can happen every day in a Citrix environment, but there is a slight problem here. They would need to split the farm containing the 5 servers in two, because a farm in the Terminal Services 2008 sense is a group of servers that are configured identically with applications and the remaining 2 servers are not.“ I ask because in the strict sense you can put some apps on some TS servers but not others. I’m wondering at what scale it makes sense to choose XenApp vs. TS 2K8? We, for example have all of 15 licenses for Citrix (and have got by with just one server) and have been that way for over 3 years. I just kicked up to 50 CAL’s of W2K8 TS and am creating a simple TS farm of 3 servers, but your comments make me curious… Dave From:Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 8:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? I did just that, Webster. I tried to save our organization some money by using Terminal Server 2008 for our enterprise medical system. That lasted maybe a year of constant issues. Meanwhile my XenApp systems hummed along quietly. Currently I am moving the Terminal Servers XenApp systems. One thing I really like about XenApp is siloing. Great Plains users on a few servers, EMR on another, another bunch of servers for general apps. Not possible in Terminal Server. So the money I saved was burned by man hours supporting it. Webster carlwebs...@gmail.com 10/29/2010 10:12 AM “I’d love to hear why people would recommend Citrix over TS 2008” http://www.dabcc.com/article.aspx?id=9771 At my previous employer, we had several customers that tried moving from Presentation Server 4.5 to TS2008, gave up and moved back. IMNSHO,
Re: Citrix web interface query
It is just using pass-through for their currently logged-on credentials, they don't specify it. I'm starting to consider other alternatives now, such as trying to migrate these app servers to a legacy farm in the new domain On 29 October 2010 14:05, Webster carlwebs...@gmail.com wrote: Do you specify a domain in the sites or do the users enter the domain when they login? There is also an issue that if you specify a login domain as websterslab.com in the site settings but the user logs in websterslab\user the PNAgent (AKA online plugin) will NOT authenticate because websterslab != websterslab.com. Webster *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] *Subject:* Re: Citrix web interface query Yes, got all the appropriate entries in there. The logon works fine if I specify credentials from the old domains. It's just when I supply a username and password from the new domain - it barfs out the invalid credentials error. I can access file shares and such like in the old domains under a new domain userid, so I'm a bit confused as to why the PNAgent logon won't go. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Office 2007 Customization Tool
Ok, I'm running into a brick wallplease help! We have several Custom Office 2007 packages and I'm trying to update one to include the installation of a couple of Outlook Plugins. Using the OCT, I open the existing package, and have tried multiple methods of installing one simple Outlook plugin: Add installations and run programs: 1) Pointing directly to the plugin.msi, with /quiet /norestart switches 2) Pointing directly to the plugin.msi, no switches 3) Moving the plugin.msi to the Updates location for Office12 then pointing to that. 4) Creating a batch file to install plugin.msi, and pointing to that. I've opened our existing package and tried saving the changes back to the original. I've tried opening the package and saving it as new. It doesn't seem to be working. I'm testing this on a PC without Office installed, so I should be able to run the setup.exe /adminfile custom.mspright? End resultOffice installs just fine, my plugin does not. It appears to ignore the fact I've included additional post install tasks. My googlefu hasn't turned up much of anything, other than notes about the proper way to update existing Office installs. I'm trying to do a new install. Has anyone run into this before? - Sean ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Office 2007 Customization Tool
Set your installation of the plugin to use detailed logging, see what's tanking. Setup a procmon in a console while you install, then filter, see if it's getting called if no log appears with the answer. jlc From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 4:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Office 2007 Customization Tool Ok, I'm running into a brick wallplease help! We have several Custom Office 2007 packages and I'm trying to update one to include the installation of a couple of Outlook Plugins. Using the OCT, I open the existing package, and have tried multiple methods of installing one simple Outlook plugin: Add installations and run programs: 1) Pointing directly to the plugin.msi, with /quiet /norestart switches 2) Pointing directly to the plugin.msi, no switches 3) Moving the plugin.msi to the Updates location for Office12 then pointing to that. 4) Creating a batch file to install plugin.msi, and pointing to that. I've opened our existing package and tried saving the changes back to the original. I've tried opening the package and saving it as new. It doesn't seem to be working. I'm testing this on a PC without Office installed, so I should be able to run the setup.exe /adminfile custom.mspright? End resultOffice installs just fine, my plugin does not. It appears to ignore the fact I've included additional post install tasks. My googlefu hasn't turned up much of anything, other than notes about the proper way to update existing Office installs. I'm trying to do a new install. Has anyone run into this before? - Sean ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Office 2007 Customization Tool
I added some prompts to the batch file I created that should have prompted for input before continuing. That's what leads me to believe the package isn't invoking the additional installations I specified. I'll try your procmon idea. Thanks. - Sean On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: Set your installation of the plugin to use detailed logging, see what’s tanking. Setup a procmon in a console while you install, then filter, see if it’s getting called if no log appears with the answer. jlc *From:* Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, October 29, 2010 4:09 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Office 2007 Customization Tool Ok, I'm running into a brick wallplease help! We have several Custom Office 2007 packages and I'm trying to update one to include the installation of a couple of Outlook Plugins. Using the OCT, I open the existing package, and have tried multiple methods of installing one simple Outlook plugin: Add installations and run programs: 1) Pointing directly to the plugin.msi, with /quiet /norestart switches 2) Pointing directly to the plugin.msi, no switches 3) Moving the plugin.msi to the Updates location for Office12 then pointing to that. 4) Creating a batch file to install plugin.msi, and pointing to that. I've opened our existing package and tried saving the changes back to the original. I've tried opening the package and saving it as new. It doesn't seem to be working. I'm testing this on a PC without Office installed, so I should be able to run the setup.exe /adminfile custom.mspright? End resultOffice installs just fine, my plugin does not. It appears to ignore the fact I've included additional post install tasks. My googlefu hasn't turned up much of anything, other than notes about the proper way to update existing Office installs. I'm trying to do a new install. Has anyone run into this before? - Sean ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Citrix web interface query
In Web Interface Management Console: Click your site Click Authentication Methods Click on your selected method Click Properties Click General | Domain Restriction Do you have Restrict to the following domains selected? If so, what domain(s) is/are there? For mine I have websterslab.com. If I login as websterslab\cwebster, the online plugin will not pass-through the login credentials because they do not match what you specified. Same problem if you specify websterslab and the user logs in with websterslab.com\cwebster or, if you allow, cwebs...@websterslab.com, the pass-through will not pass-through because the domains do not match. Am I clear in what I am trying to explain what may be causing your issue? Thanks Carl Webster Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Subject: Re: Citrix web interface query It is just using pass-through for their currently logged-on credentials, they don't specify it. I'm starting to consider other alternatives now, such as trying to migrate these app servers to a legacy farm in the new domain On 29 October 2010 14:05, Webster carlwebs...@gmail.com wrote: Do you specify a domain in the sites or do the users enter the domain when they login? There is also an issue that if you specify a login domain as websterslab.com http://websterslab.com/ in the site settings but the user logs in websterslab\user the PNAgent (AKA online plugin) will NOT authenticate because websterslab != websterslab.com http://websterslab.com/ . Webster From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Subject: Re: Citrix web interface query Yes, got all the appropriate entries in there. The logon works fine if I specify credentials from the old domains. It's just when I supply a username and password from the new domain - it barfs out the invalid credentials error. I can access file shares and such like in the old domains under a new domain userid, so I'm a bit confused as to why the PNAgent logon won't go. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Flowchart PDQ version 1.1 - Need setup disk
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Steve Kelsay kels...@sctax.org wrote: I was looking for an original installation disk. Not a copy. My apologies; I assumed you wanted to find someone with a disc so they could make you a copy. I presumed that if someone had a copy, they would not want to transfer it to you, since they were presumably saving it for some reason. By the way, in the same vein, be sure not to use anything but the very install disks you got with your individual copy of your server software to do reinstall. That would also be copyright infringement according to all the people that have just said so. No, actually, it wouldn't. As I mentioned, most licenses do permit copies to be made by the purchaser, for internal use, for purposes of installation, staging, and/or backup. And even if they did not, the law specifically allows for such use. See US Code, Title 17, Chapter 1, Section 117, Subsection (a). http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode17/usc_sec_17_0117000-.html -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OT: weather.com
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qsource=s_qhl=engeocode=q=Geographical+Center+of+North+America+Monumentsll=32.831433,-117.237131sspn=0.007645,0.013078ie=UTF8hq=Geographical+Center+of+North+America+Monumenthnear=Geographical+Center+of+North+America+Monument,+Rugby,+Pierce,+North+Dakota+58368z=15iwloc=A -- ME2 On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote: Rugby, ND. At least the monument is there. Technically, it's a bit further off than that. http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/11486 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OT: weather.com
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote ... On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote ... You trapped in a time warp again, ME2? :) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OT: weather.com
I just passed through Rugby, on my way from Hannibal, MO to Moose Jaw, SK. this summer... And I think it was 90 miles between McDonalds!! Michael---Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 20:39:05 -0700 Subject: Re: OT: weather.com http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qsource=s_qhl=engeocode=q=Geographical+Center+of+North+America+Monumentsll=32.831433,-117.237131sspn=0.007645,0.013078ie=UTF8hq=Geographical+Center+of+North+America+Monumenthnear=Geographical+Center+of+North+America+Monument,+Rugby,+Pierce,+North+Dakota+58368z=15iwloc=A [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qsource=s_qhl=engeocode=q=Geographical+Center+of+North+America+Monumentsll=32.831433,-117.237131sspn=0.007645,0.013078ie=UTF8hq=Geographical+Center+of+North+America+Monumenthnear=Geographical+Center+of+North+America+Monument,+Rugby,+Pierce,+North+Dakota+58368z=15iwloc=A] -- ME2 On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] wrote: Rugby, ND. At least the monument is there. Technically, it's a bit further off than that. http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/11486 [http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/11486] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ [http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/] ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ [http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/] or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com [mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
A real puzzler...
All, I'm in the US, and have a problem in our AU office that I'm having difficulty wrapping my brain around. I have a theory, but it is still a strange situation, and any feedback anyone can provide would be appreciated. The AU office has a server, which I've just recently stood up, using an address assigned by DHCP. This is not ideal, obviously, but the thing refuses to take the static IP address that it's slated to get (192.168.61.30.) It's a VM on a new ESXi server. When I try to assign it the static address, it keeps getting an error message that another machine has the address. However, when I ping the IP address that the machine refuses to use, I get no answer. When I use netmon on the VM in the AU office to capture ARP traffic, I get a MAC address that's for the DC. However, the DC has never had 192.168.61.30 - it's been 192.168.61.31 all its life in the AU office. I've even fired up regedit on the DC to search for the IP address, and all I'm showing is the one it's supposed to have - 192.168.61.31 I'm more than a little baffled by this one. One thing I should note, just because: The DC in the AU office is a machine that had been used in the US office about two years ago. We did a P2V on it, and the VM from that still lives on in the US office. They do share a MAC address (I don't know why, as I would have expected the the MAC to change when it got the virtual NIC), but AFAICT this shouldn't make a difference, since they are in different subnets entirely, with different addresses. Anyone have thoughts on this? Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
