Re: Extensions and templates site down
Here is what an OSUOSL admin said in July when this happened last: > Looks like varnish died on the machine and I just kicked it. The site(s) > should be back online now. > > The sites have been in an unstable state for quite a while mostly > because neither we (OSL) nor Sun/Oracle had time to fix the performance > issues both of the sites entails. Couple that with the fact that the > machines they power those sites are very underpower considering the load > they take. It's gotten so bad that we've turned off notifications > because they just go off all the time. > > What really needs to happen is to have the sites completely > re-architected from the ground up with scaling in mind. At least one of > the sites is a stock Drupal 5.0 with a very hacked core. I know some > Sun/Oracle engineers had been working on fixing that into a Drupal 6 > module but I'm not sure where that left off. > > Anyways, If you would like some more help with how these sites can be > fixed moving forward, please let me know. But we are strectched thin for > resources. > > Thanks- It is certainly a load issue. It might be a place to donate hardware and Drupal "foo" Regards, Dave On Aug 14, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Nóirín Plunkett wrote: > On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 4:14 PM, drew wrote: >> On Sun, 2011-08-14 at 09:07 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: >> >>> Or is this something that could be moved to apache-extras.org ? >> >> Hola Rob, >> >> We would get slammed with license issues, wouldn't we? >> - at least that is what I think. If we are on non-apache servers, then >> dishing up the broader license mix is acceptable is the take I get from >> what I've read so far, but on ASF hardware...nope. (*smile* - then again >> could be 100% mistaken there.) >> > > You've got the gist of it :-) > > But apache-extras is actually Google hardware, and exists explicitly > to support extensions and add-on pieces that, for whatever reason, > don't belong on Apache hardware. One of the potential reasons being, > of course, the license :-) > > http://community.apache.org/apache-extras/faq.html > > Noirin
Re: Extensions and templates site down
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 4:14 PM, drew wrote: > On Sun, 2011-08-14 at 09:07 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: > >> Or is this something that could be moved to apache-extras.org ? > > Hola Rob, > > We would get slammed with license issues, wouldn't we? > - at least that is what I think. If we are on non-apache servers, then > dishing up the broader license mix is acceptable is the take I get from > what I've read so far, but on ASF hardware...nope. (*smile* - then again > could be 100% mistaken there.) > You've got the gist of it :-) But apache-extras is actually Google hardware, and exists explicitly to support extensions and add-on pieces that, for whatever reason, don't belong on Apache hardware. One of the potential reasons being, of course, the license :-) http://community.apache.org/apache-extras/faq.html Noirin
Re: Extensions and templates site down
On Sun, 2011-08-14 at 09:07 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: > On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 8:26 AM, drew wrote: > > The site (particularly templates) seems hinky, bad, and has for a over a > > day now, once again. > > > > Do we know what the underlying issue is? Is it load related? > > Do we have any stats on the most-downloaded extensions? Would it be > worth treating them specially, getting them into a mirroring > infrastructure, for example? > > Or is this something that could be moved to apache-extras.org ? Hola Rob, We would get slammed with license issues, wouldn't we? - at least that is what I think. If we are on non-apache servers, then dishing up the broader license mix is acceptable is the take I get from what I've read so far, but on ASF hardware...nope. (*smile* - then again could be 100% mistaken there.) //drew
Re: Extensions and templates site down
2011.08.14. 15:07 keltezéssel, Rob Weir írta: On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 8:26 AM, drew wrote: The site (particularly templates) seems hinky, bad, and has for a over a day now, once again. Do we know what the underlying issue is? Is it load related? I don't know, may be not enough resources to do administration. At the end of July when similar down happens, I submitted a support question to supp...@osuosl.org e-mail. After few days the pages were up. And get answer: Should be back online. This is a persistent issue that we do not have the time nor resources to resolve long term. I'm waiting to hear where this site will end up (hopefully with the ASF). For now I have to just mend it along. Zoltan Do we have any stats on the most-downloaded extensions? Would it be worth treating them specially, getting them into a mirroring infrastructure, for example? Or is this something that could be moved to apache-extras.org ? On Tue, 2011-07-12 at 17:37 -0500, Pedro Giffuni wrote: We will have to find an alternative repository We Need to fix the current one - the fact that LibreOffice will open yet another repository (as mentioned there are already other locations on the net hosting OO.o/Libo compatible extensions) is IMO great, the current site however has the largest collection of files and one would be foolish to just close it. What would be _really_ nice is someone hack an extension that lets the user change default repos, and for bonus points, search ala InkScape and OpenClipart...but I wander OT there. my very late .02 //drew
Re: Extensions and templates site down
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 8:26 AM, drew wrote: > The site (particularly templates) seems hinky, bad, and has for a over a > day now, once again. > Do we know what the underlying issue is? Is it load related? Do we have any stats on the most-downloaded extensions? Would it be worth treating them specially, getting them into a mirroring infrastructure, for example? Or is this something that could be moved to apache-extras.org ? > > On Tue, 2011-07-12 at 17:37 -0500, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > > >> We will have to >> find an >> alternative repository > > > We Need to fix the current one > > - the fact that LibreOffice will open yet another repository (as > mentioned there are already other locations on the net hosting OO.o/Libo > compatible extensions) is IMO great, the current site however has the > largest collection of files and one would be foolish to just close it. > > What would be _really_ nice is someone hack an extension that lets the > user change default repos, and for bonus points, search ala InkScape and > OpenClipart...but I wander OT there. > > my very late .02 > > //drew > >
Re: Extensions and templates site down
The site (particularly templates) seems hinky, bad, and has for a over a day now, once again. On Tue, 2011-07-12 at 17:37 -0500, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > We will have to > find an > alternative repository We Need to fix the current one - the fact that LibreOffice will open yet another repository (as mentioned there are already other locations on the net hosting OO.o/Libo compatible extensions) is IMO great, the current site however has the largest collection of files and one would be foolish to just close it. What would be _really_ nice is someone hack an extension that lets the user change default repos, and for bonus points, search ala InkScape and OpenClipart...but I wander OT there. my very late .02 //drew
RE: Extensions and templates site down
> -Original Message- > From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] > Sent: Wednesday, 13 July 2011 12:32 AM > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: Extensions and templates site down > We did get a zone file yesterday, but it was missing these two domains. Who is 'we' please ? Can you forward a copy to me and to joes please (or just to r...@apache.org if you're not happy with doing the former.) Thanks Gav... > I > think that the track is to transfer the domain and zone dns to the ASF first > and then we will be able to do what we want. > > Regards, > Dave > > > > > -Rob > > > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 2:01 AM, Reizinger Zoltán > wrote: > >> 2011.07.11. 15:41 keltezéssel, TJ Frazier írta: > >>> > >>> On 7/11/2011 07:28, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Reizinger Zoltán wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> The two sites works sporadically, needs four five web page refresh > >>>>> to > >>>>> load: > >>>>> http://templates.services.openoffice.org/ > >>>>> http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/ > >>>>> To help OOo present users, needs to stabilize sites work. > >>>>> Somebody knows what the cause of this problem. > >>>> > >>>> Yes, I posted some more details in this message a few weeks ago: > >>>> > >>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo- > dev/201106.m > >>>> box/browser and I don't have further updates available. > >>>> > >>>> Note that those sites are not part of the Oracle infrastructure. > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Andrea. > >>>> > >>> Hi, all, > >>> > >>> Andrea Pescetti's helpful message is easier to find here: > >>> > >>> > >>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo- > dev/201106.mb > >>> ox/%3c1308391724.2986.34.camel@localhost.localdomain%3e > >>> > >>> since it is titled, "Re: Bugzilla or JIRA? ..." etc. > >>> > >>> Oregon State University Open Source Lab hosts the extensions site, > >>> and some Apache-related things as well. Just for fun, I tried > >>> looking up OSUOSL's service ticket #18367, but their website was > >>> impenetrable to my relatively feeble search attempts. > >>> > >>> As a systems programmer (retired), I used to read a lot of tickets, > >>> and it was my job to solve them. I find this protracted trouble > >>> curious, to say the least. :-/ > >> > >> It seems to me it is an abandoned site, nobody care for it, it hurt > >> all OOo effort if we not find a solution to restart, the users ask > >> every day on forum which way they could find specific extensions, and > >> we can not help them. It is sad thing. > >> Zoltan > >>
Re: Extensions and templates site down
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Jul 12, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > > > >> On Jul 12, 2011, at 4:41 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > >> > >>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > >>> > Another option that comes to mind: > > 3) Have OOo extensions hosted by a 3rd party website and we link to > that site. It is done that way essentially now with OSL. But I think > we'll want to be more explicit about such links to 3rd party sites > going forward, stating that this is not Apache code, etc. > > Also, if most of the extensions are applicable to LibreOffice and > other derived products, as well as OpenOffice, then this might be an > opportunity for collaboration with The Document Foundation on a common > extension repository. > > >>> > >>> As it happens I'd already started exploring this one with the Document > >>> Foundation Steering Committee, and Jomar Silva raised it on the > >> TDF-Discuss > >>> list. TDF are just about to launch a full version of their extensions & > >>> templates system and they would be perfectly happy for AOOo to redirect > >> the > >>> URL that OpenOffice.org is using to access the repository so that it > uses > >>> the system TDF are hosting for LibreOffice. > >> > >> Is the intent to host all of the extensions currently at the OOo site? > >> Or a subset? Or a different set? > >> > > > > They host only extensions that have open source licenses, so the ones at > the > > OOo site that have proprietary licenses are not hosted. > > I'd like to have a central catalog of all extensions, commercial as > well as open source. Not necessarily hosting them, but having the > basic metadata with links to whatever site hosts them. If we have > something like this then we can escape the need for having a singe > host site that gates user visibility of extensions based on eclectic > things like license considerations. You could even have multiple > such catalogs. Maybe some which curate only GPL extensions for > example. > > To do something like the above would require agreeing on a metadata > description file for extension authors. > i think most of this is already available. We need to extend the code to handle multiple repositories in the extension manager as known from for example NetBeans. You can of course already define your own update URL for your own extension and everything works out of the box to get the update information via this URL. The current repository provides automatically an update URL for extensions hosted in the repo. The whole mechanism is already very flexible. To add my personal opinion, i would still prefer a repo for all kind of extensions. What we need is a working eco system around the office suite and i think commercial extensions can be an important part of such an eco system. Specialized extensions for only a subset of (business) users for example. It would allow ISV's to build their own business around the office suite ... Juergen > I think this is complementary to TDF's interest in hosting open source > extensions. > > > S. >
Re: Extensions and templates site down
On Jul 12, 2011, at 10:59 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 12/07/2011 Simon Phipps wrote: >> TDF are just about to launch a full version of their extensions & >> templates system and they would be perfectly happy for AOOo to redirect the >> URL that OpenOffice.org is using to access the repository so that it uses >> the system TDF are hosting for LibreOffice. > > While I believe cooperation would be nice and I've written for months > that I don't support the idea to host OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice > extensions on separate sites, we should get facts straight on this. > > The LibreOffice extensions site is being developed for two reasons: > 1) the Document Foundation doesn't want to depend on *.openoffice.org > sites (and in this case it cannot, since on the launch day it > promised to only offer free software extensions). > 2) http://extensions.services.openoffice.org was unreachable at times. > Now, reason 1 does not exactly go in the direction of a shared resource, > while reason 2 is now obsolete: the site is now fixed and the problems > were in the caching server, NOT in the OOo extensions site. > > If we are to use a common resource, then let's go for the best one, > which is (don't consider the URL!) the one currently living at > http://extensions.services.openoffice.org . Reasons: mature, tested, > nicer, flexible, populated with hundreds of extensions. > > With a bit (quite a bit) of customization it could even be tweaked so > that is is accessible, say, both as http://extensions.openoffice.org and > http://extensions.libreoffice.org and that it shows different branding > depending on the URL; it could even be set up so that non-free > extensions are hidden when browsing it in "LibreOffice mode". That can certainly be done. > > This would be a really shared resource, where anybody can submit > extensions that anybody can download and use regardless of the software > he is using, and where all identities are respected. It could of course > be extended to other derivatives and it would be a remarkable example of > something useful to the whole community. +1 and the key is not so much the site in front as it is the repository behind it. Maybe we should have a shared repository somewhere with agreed upon metadata and files all stored in a repository. A bunch of mirrors and alternative front-ends are possible. Each project (OpenOffice.org, LibreOffice, Lotus Symphony, RedOffice, ) would then be responsible for validating the extension vs. product versions. In addition the license could be reviewed and be marked for compatibility with either ASF, FSF, dual license commercial, etc. Having a repository with credentials etc. would be a good separation of concerns. UIs like extensions.services.openoffice.org and http://extensions.libreoffice.org become read-only front-ends. Contributors of extensions and templates would request a directory within the repository and then get direct access to use which ever front end they prefer to maintain their repository. Projects can query for new extensions and templates to test and then indicate the revisions that are "tested" for each version. Please feel free to start a migration plan for extensions and templates on the Community Wiki at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Extensions+and+templates Please continue this thread. Regards, Dave
Re: Extensions and templates site down
Raphael Bircher wrote: > The site has a verry hight number of visitors. I think a CMS like Drupal > is not a good choice for a site like thise. We need same thing self > programmed only for this page. This is not really a problem; again, the bottleneck was not Drupal. See Thorsten Bosbach's presentation about this at OOoCon 2010 http://www.ooocon.org/index.php/ooocon/2010/paper/view/209 (video might be online somewhere too; we had a nice long discussion worth watching). The figures Dave Fisher wanted (by the way, thanks for getting the OOo extensions site running again!) were given as around 120.000 page views per day on each site, see above link. And the sites functioned smoothly. After that, I know that Thorsten was porting both sites to Drupal 6 and cleaning the Drupal 5 tweaks; as far as I know, work was done for both sites, but only one production site (Templates) has been updated. Whoever submitted an extension/template will have seen that the backend was really customized to fit the use case, Thorsten did a nice job with this; it would be nice to get the code of the Drupal 6 port as part of the Oracle grant, it is really valuable. Regards, Andrea.
Re: Extensions and templates site down
Hi, Am 13.07.2011 00:37, schrieb Pedro Giffuni: While this is understandable, it is not good enough. We will have to find an alternative repository and link to it from Apache's website. This is something that can wait though. You might think different, when you was an actual user or author of an extension. E.g., the extensions I published at the ooo extension site are listed in other software repositories as well, but just as a link. E.g. Heise.de does so. Within the last weeks I got several notifications that my extensions would be de-registered, as it is not available anymore. Seems, stil many here did not yet realize that apache has taken a project *and product* with dozends of millions active users. But - good to know, that (according to Andrew) there is work on this here (as well as at TDF). André
Re: Extensions and templates site down
On 12/07/2011 Rob Weir wrote: > > 1) The new extensions.openoffice.org site hosts no code or binaries. > > It is simply a directory of 3rd party extensions and links to outside > > sites for the actual files. This would really be suboptimal since the OpenOffice.org community really expects to use the extensions site both for downloading and uploading extensions: unaffiliated members involved with extensions development used to outnumber unaffiliated members working on core. > > 2) Optionally, in conjunction with #1, host the extension source and > > distributions at http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/hosting/ . > ... 3) Have OOo extensions hosted by a 3rd party website and we link to > that site. It is done that way essentially now with OSL. But I think > we'll want to be more explicit about such links OK, then it's probably time to decide on a DNS zone corresponding to what used to be *.services.openoffice.org and dedicated to community resources, since the Apache Extras option does not seems practical seeing the dozens of sites needed. Maybe "*.services.openoffice.org" is not explicit enough: would "*.community.openoffice.org" be better? Shorter options? Regards, Andrea.
Re: Extensions and templates site down
On 12/07/2011 Simon Phipps wrote: > TDF are just about to launch a full version of their extensions & > templates system and they would be perfectly happy for AOOo to redirect the > URL that OpenOffice.org is using to access the repository so that it uses > the system TDF are hosting for LibreOffice. While I believe cooperation would be nice and I've written for months that I don't support the idea to host OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice extensions on separate sites, we should get facts straight on this. The LibreOffice extensions site is being developed for two reasons: 1) the Document Foundation doesn't want to depend on *.openoffice.org sites (and in this case it cannot, since on the launch day it promised to only offer free software extensions). 2) http://extensions.services.openoffice.org was unreachable at times. Now, reason 1 does not exactly go in the direction of a shared resource, while reason 2 is now obsolete: the site is now fixed and the problems were in the caching server, NOT in the OOo extensions site. If we are to use a common resource, then let's go for the best one, which is (don't consider the URL!) the one currently living at http://extensions.services.openoffice.org . Reasons: mature, tested, nicer, flexible, populated with hundreds of extensions. With a bit (quite a bit) of customization it could even be tweaked so that is is accessible, say, both as http://extensions.openoffice.org and http://extensions.libreoffice.org and that it shows different branding depending on the URL; it could even be set up so that non-free extensions are hidden when browsing it in "LibreOffice mode". This would be a really shared resource, where anybody can submit extensions that anybody can download and use regardless of the software he is using, and where all identities are respected. It could of course be extended to other derivatives and it would be a remarkable example of something useful to the whole community. Regards, Andrea.
Re: Extensions and templates site down
--- On Tue, 7/12/11, Jomar Silva wrote: ... > > > On 2011/6/12 19:38 Pedro Giffuni wrote: > > > While this is understandable, it is not good enough. > > We will have to find an alternative repository and > > link to it from Apache's website. This is something > > that can wait though. > > Can you please explain the 'not good enough' and also > propose an alternative solution ? > (keeping politics apart) The Office Suite market is very competitive and we want to be commercially friendly if we want to have success. Furthermore we are providing an API specifically so that commercial guys use it. Forcing developers to make available the source in order to be listed is not very commercial friendly. I am sure we can find someone else that can host those files, and if some sort of ad supported service is provided that's OK too. With time we may even offer some sort of certification seal if that helps attract developers and users. cheers, Pedro.
Re: Extensions and templates site down
Am 13.07.11 03:21, schrieb Dave Fisher: On Jul 12, 2011, at 5:42 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: Am 13.07.11 01:47, schrieb Jomar Silva: On 2011/6/12 19:38 Pedro Giffuni wrote: While this is understandable, it is not good enough. We will have to find an alternative repository and link to it from Apache's website. This is something that can wait though. Can you please explain the 'not good enough' and also propose an alternative solution ? You removed the answare. The fact that only Open Source extension are alowed is not ideal. Everyone at OOo knows the storry about this topic. The wish to have only Open Source extensions come from the FSF. This wish was refused by the CC of OpenOffice.org with good reasons. I don't think, this reasons go away only because we move to the ASF. A Extension Repository with only Open Source Extension makes maybe the FSF happy, but do not cover our need. So this is one more time more a ideological question. +1 - We should attempt to have the most complete and agnostic registry of all extensions and the most open collection of templates possible. I've asked the contact that I made last night at OSUOSL for two things. (1) Some statistics about the server. (2) Contacts at Sun/Oracle who were working on the performance issues - which involve scale. With data we have a better idea of what infrastructure is required. The site has a verry hight number of visitors. I think a CMS like Drupal is not a good choice for a site like thise. We need same thing self programmed only for this page. We need not a load of scripts for it. It's a big difference if you ave a script with mayby 100 Lines code ore you hav a CMS with thousands Line of code. Even Drupal is fast, it's to slow for this service. I'm willing to help there I think we need to find out from Legal if the ASF actually has an issue with hosting differently licensed software on a machine that is not on the internet at *.apache.org, but on *.openoffice.org. Regards, Dave -- My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/
Re: Extensions and templates site down
On Jul 12, 2011, at 5:42 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: > Am 13.07.11 01:47, schrieb Jomar Silva: >> >> On 2011/6/12 19:38 Pedro Giffuni wrote: >> >>> While this is understandable, it is not good enough. We will have to >>> find an >>> alternative repository and link to it from Apache's website. This is >>> something >>> that can wait though. >> Can you please explain the 'not good enough' and also propose an alternative >> solution ? > You removed the answare. The fact that only Open Source extension are alowed > is not ideal. Everyone at OOo knows the storry about this topic. The wish to > have only Open Source extensions come from the FSF. This wish was refused by > the CC of OpenOffice.org with good reasons. I don't think, this reasons go > away only because we move to the ASF. > > A Extension Repository with only Open Source Extension makes maybe the FSF > happy, but do not cover our need. So this is one more time more a ideological > question. +1 - We should attempt to have the most complete and agnostic registry of all extensions and the most open collection of templates possible. I've asked the contact that I made last night at OSUOSL for two things. (1) Some statistics about the server. (2) Contacts at Sun/Oracle who were working on the performance issues - which involve scale. With data we have a better idea of what infrastructure is required. I think we need to find out from Legal if the ASF actually has an issue with hosting differently licensed software on a machine that is not on the internet at *.apache.org, but on *.openoffice.org. Regards, Dave
Re: Extensions and templates site down
Am 13.07.11 01:47, schrieb Jomar Silva: On 2011/6/12 19:38 Pedro Giffuni wrote: While this is understandable, it is not good enough. We will have to find an alternative repository and link to it from Apache's website. This is something that can wait though. Can you please explain the 'not good enough' and also propose an alternative solution ? You removed the answare. The fact that only Open Source extension are alowed is not ideal. Everyone at OOo knows the storry about this topic. The wish to have only Open Source extensions come from the FSF. This wish was refused by the CC of OpenOffice.org with good reasons. I don't think, this reasons go away only because we move to the ASF. A Extension Repository with only Open Source Extension makes maybe the FSF happy, but do not cover our need. So this is one more time more a ideological question. -- My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/
Re: Extensions and templates site down
On 2011/6/12 19:38 Pedro Giffuni wrote: > While this is understandable, it is not good enough. We will have to > find an > alternative repository and link to it from Apache's website. This is > something > that can wait though. Can you please explain the 'not good enough' and also propose an alternative solution ? Best, Jomar
Re: Extensions and templates site down
Pedro Giffuni wrote: > On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 22:43:10 +0100, Simon Phipps wrote: > ... >> >>> > >>> > As it happens I'd already started exploring this one with the Document >> >>> >>> Is the intent to host all of the extensions currently at the OOo site? >>> Or a subset? Or a different set? >>> >> >> They host only extensions that have open source licenses, so the ones >> at the >> OOo site that have proprietary licenses are not hosted. >> > > While this is understandable, it is not good enough. We will have to > find an > alternative repository and link to it from Apache's website. This is > something > that can wait though. > > Pedro This is being worked on at this time. Andy
Re: Extensions and templates site down
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Jul 12, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > > > >> On Jul 12, 2011, at 4:41 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > >> > >>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > >>> > Another option that comes to mind: > > 3) Have OOo extensions hosted by a 3rd party website and we link to > that site. It is done that way essentially now with OSL. But I think > we'll want to be more explicit about such links to 3rd party sites > going forward, stating that this is not Apache code, etc. > > Also, if most of the extensions are applicable to LibreOffice and > other derived products, as well as OpenOffice, then this might be an > opportunity for collaboration with The Document Foundation on a common > extension repository. > > >>> > >>> As it happens I'd already started exploring this one with the Document > >>> Foundation Steering Committee, and Jomar Silva raised it on the > >> TDF-Discuss > >>> list. TDF are just about to launch a full version of their extensions & > >>> templates system and they would be perfectly happy for AOOo to redirect > >> the > >>> URL that OpenOffice.org is using to access the repository so that it > uses > >>> the system TDF are hosting for LibreOffice. > >> > >> Is the intent to host all of the extensions currently at the OOo site? > >> Or a subset? Or a different set? > >> > > > > They host only extensions that have open source licenses, so the ones at > the > > OOo site that have proprietary licenses are not hosted. > > I'd like to have a central catalog of all extensions, commercial as > well as open source. Not necessarily hosting them, but having the > basic metadata with links to whatever site hosts them. If we have > something like this then we can escape the need for having a singe > host site that gates user visibility of extensions based on eclectic > things like license considerations. You could even have multiple > such catalogs. Maybe some which curate only GPL extensions for > example. > > To do something like the above would require agreeing on a metadata > description file for extension authors. > Sounds like a job for the ODF Plugfest (or at least a subset of its attendees). Meanwhile, the offer stands as a practical and pragmatic solution to keep end users running during the transition. S.
Re: Extensions and templates site down
On Jul 12, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> On Jul 12, 2011, at 4:41 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >>> Another option that comes to mind: 3) Have OOo extensions hosted by a 3rd party website and we link to that site. It is done that way essentially now with OSL. But I think we'll want to be more explicit about such links to 3rd party sites going forward, stating that this is not Apache code, etc. Also, if most of the extensions are applicable to LibreOffice and other derived products, as well as OpenOffice, then this might be an opportunity for collaboration with The Document Foundation on a common extension repository. >>> >>> As it happens I'd already started exploring this one with the Document >>> Foundation Steering Committee, and Jomar Silva raised it on the >> TDF-Discuss >>> list. TDF are just about to launch a full version of their extensions & >>> templates system and they would be perfectly happy for AOOo to redirect >> the >>> URL that OpenOffice.org is using to access the repository so that it uses >>> the system TDF are hosting for LibreOffice. >> >> Is the intent to host all of the extensions currently at the OOo site? >> Or a subset? Or a different set? >> > > They host only extensions that have open source licenses, so the ones at the > OOo site that have proprietary licenses are not hosted. I'd like to have a central catalog of all extensions, commercial as well as open source. Not necessarily hosting them, but having the basic metadata with links to whatever site hosts them. If we have something like this then we can escape the need for having a singe host site that gates user visibility of extensions based on eclectic things like license considerations. You could even have multiple such catalogs. Maybe some which curate only GPL extensions for example. To do something like the above would require agreeing on a metadata description file for extension authors. I think this is complementary to TDF's interest in hosting open source extensions. > S.
Re: Extensions and templates site down
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 22:43:10 +0100, Simon Phipps wrote: ... > > As it happens I'd already started exploring this one with the Document Is the intent to host all of the extensions currently at the OOo site? Or a subset? Or a different set? They host only extensions that have open source licenses, so the ones at the OOo site that have proprietary licenses are not hosted. While this is understandable, it is not good enough. We will have to find an alternative repository and link to it from Apache's website. This is something that can wait though. Pedro
Re: Extensions and templates site down
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Jul 12, 2011, at 4:41 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > > > >> Another option that comes to mind: > >> > >> 3) Have OOo extensions hosted by a 3rd party website and we link to > >> that site. It is done that way essentially now with OSL. But I think > >> we'll want to be more explicit about such links to 3rd party sites > >> going forward, stating that this is not Apache code, etc. > >> > >> Also, if most of the extensions are applicable to LibreOffice and > >> other derived products, as well as OpenOffice, then this might be an > >> opportunity for collaboration with The Document Foundation on a common > >> extension repository. > >> > > > > As it happens I'd already started exploring this one with the Document > > Foundation Steering Committee, and Jomar Silva raised it on the > TDF-Discuss > > list. TDF are just about to launch a full version of their extensions & > > templates system and they would be perfectly happy for AOOo to redirect > the > > URL that OpenOffice.org is using to access the repository so that it uses > > the system TDF are hosting for LibreOffice. > > Is the intent to host all of the extensions currently at the OOo site? > Or a subset? Or a different set? > They host only extensions that have open source licenses, so the ones at the OOo site that have proprietary licenses are not hosted. S.
Re: Extensions and templates site down
On Jul 12, 2011, at 4:41 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> Another option that comes to mind: >> >> 3) Have OOo extensions hosted by a 3rd party website and we link to >> that site. It is done that way essentially now with OSL. But I think >> we'll want to be more explicit about such links to 3rd party sites >> going forward, stating that this is not Apache code, etc. >> >> Also, if most of the extensions are applicable to LibreOffice and >> other derived products, as well as OpenOffice, then this might be an >> opportunity for collaboration with The Document Foundation on a common >> extension repository. >> > > As it happens I'd already started exploring this one with the Document > Foundation Steering Committee, and Jomar Silva raised it on the TDF-Discuss > list. TDF are just about to launch a full version of their extensions & > templates system and they would be perfectly happy for AOOo to redirect the > URL that OpenOffice.org is using to access the repository so that it uses > the system TDF are hosting for LibreOffice. Is the intent to host all of the extensions currently at the OOo site? Or a subset? Or a different set? > > They are also happy for this arrangement to continue for as long as it makes > sense, and have no problem with a shared repository indefinitely. Like > Apache, they are only willing to host open source packages, so if anyone > wanted a system that also hosted closed packages it would need to be created > as a downstream of TDF's system > I'm happy to act as a liaison on this if necessary, as I suspect is Jomar. > > S.
Re: Extensions and templates site down
> As it happens I'd already started exploring this one with the Document > Foundation Steering Committee, and Jomar Silva raised it on the TDF-Discuss > list. TDF are just about to launch a full version of their extensions & > templates system and they would be perfectly happy for AOOo to redirect the > URL that OpenOffice.org is using to access the repository so that it uses > the system TDF are hosting for LibreOffice. > > They are also happy for this arrangement to continue for as long as it makes > sense, and have no problem with a shared repository indefinitely. Like > Apache, they are only willing to host open source packages, so if anyone > wanted a system that also hosted closed packages it would need to be created > as a downstream of TDF's system. > > I'm happy to act as a liaison on this if necessary, as I suspect is Jomar. > > S. > I'll be happy too :) Jomar
Re: Extensions and templates site down
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > Another option that comes to mind: > > 3) Have OOo extensions hosted by a 3rd party website and we link to > that site. It is done that way essentially now with OSL. But I think > we'll want to be more explicit about such links to 3rd party sites > going forward, stating that this is not Apache code, etc. > > Also, if most of the extensions are applicable to LibreOffice and > other derived products, as well as OpenOffice, then this might be an > opportunity for collaboration with The Document Foundation on a common > extension repository. > As it happens I'd already started exploring this one with the Document Foundation Steering Committee, and Jomar Silva raised it on the TDF-Discuss list. TDF are just about to launch a full version of their extensions & templates system and they would be perfectly happy for AOOo to redirect the URL that OpenOffice.org is using to access the repository so that it uses the system TDF are hosting for LibreOffice. They are also happy for this arrangement to continue for as long as it makes sense, and have no problem with a shared repository indefinitely. Like Apache, they are only willing to host open source packages, so if anyone wanted a system that also hosted closed packages it would need to be created as a downstream of TDF's system. I'm happy to act as a liaison on this if necessary, as I suspect is Jomar. S.
Re: Extensions and templates site down
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: >> I sent an email to supp...@osuosl.org last night and got a response in 30 >> minutes. >> >> OSUOSL admin says: >> >>> Looks like varnish died on the machine and I just kicked it. The site(s) >>> should be back online now. >>> >>> The sites have been in an unstable state for quite a while mostly >>> because neither we (OSL) nor Sun/Oracle had time to fix the performance >>> issues both of the sites entails. Couple that with the fact that the >>> machines they power those sites are very underpower considering the load >>> they take. It's gotten so bad that we've turned off notifications >>> because they just go off all the time. >>> >>> What really needs to happen is to have the sites completely >>> re-architected from the ground up with scaling in mind. At least one of >>> the sites is a stock Drupal 5.0 with a very hacked core. I know some >>> Sun/Oracle engineers had been working on fixing that into a Drupal 6 >>> module but I'm not sure where that left off. >>> >>> Anyways, If you would like some more help with how these sites can be >>> fixed moving forward, please let me know. But we are strectched thin for >>> resources. >> >> It looks like these two sites are going to need attention whether they are >> physically moved or the servers transferred to the ASF. >> > > Since the extensions site has 3rd party code that is not under Apache > 2.0 license, we have two options: > > 1) The new extensions.openoffice.org site hosts no code or binaries. > It is simply a directory of 3rd party extensions and links to outside > sites for the actual files. > > 2) Optionally, in conjunction with #1, host the extension source and > distributions at http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/hosting/ . > That is where Apache projects host things like this. > Another option that comes to mind: 3) Have OOo extensions hosted by a 3rd party website and we link to that site. It is done that way essentially now with OSL. But I think we'll want to be more explicit about such links to 3rd party sites going forward, stating that this is not Apache code, etc. Also, if most of the extensions are applicable to LibreOffice and other derived products, as well as OpenOffice, then this might be an opportunity for collaboration with The Document Foundation on a common extension repository. >> Rob says: >> >>> Can we make it a priority to migrate these two site to Apache? We >>> need volunteers to do this. Nothing happens by magic here. We need >>> volunteers to define the technical requirements and work with Apache >>> Infrastructure to make this happen. Hopefully we'd make some platform >>> and technology choices that would be more stable than the current >>> site. I'd recommend moving and then asking Oracle to redirect >>> requests for those two subdomains to Apache. >> >> We did get a zone file yesterday, but it was missing these two domains. I >> think that the track is to transfer the domain and zone dns to the ASF first >> and then we will be able to do what we want. >> >> Regards, >> Dave >> >>> >>> -Rob >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 2:01 AM, Reizinger Zoltán >>> wrote: 2011.07.11. 15:41 keltezéssel, TJ Frazier írta: > > On 7/11/2011 07:28, Andrea Pescetti wrote: >> >> Reizinger Zoltán wrote: >>> >>> The two sites works sporadically, needs four five web page refresh to >>> load: >>> http://templates.services.openoffice.org/ >>> http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/ >>> To help OOo present users, needs to stabilize sites work. >>> Somebody knows what the cause of this problem. >> >> Yes, I posted some more details in this message a few weeks ago: >> >> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201106.mbox/browser >> and I don't have further updates available. >> >> Note that those sites are not part of the Oracle infrastructure. >> >> Regards, >> Andrea. >> > Hi, all, > > Andrea Pescetti's helpful message is easier to find here: > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201106.mbox/%3c1308391724.2986.34.camel@localhost.localdomain%3e > > since it is titled, "Re: Bugzilla or JIRA? ..." etc. > > Oregon State University Open Source Lab hosts the extensions site, and > some Apache-related things as well. Just for fun, I tried looking up > OSUOSL's service ticket #18367, but their website was impenetrable to my > relatively feeble search attempts. > > As a systems programmer (retired), I used to read a lot of tickets, and it > was my job to solve them. I find this protracted trouble curious, to say > the > least. :-/ It seems to me it is an abandoned site, nobody care for it, it hurt all OOo effort if we not find a solution to restart, the users ask every day on forum which way t
Re: Extensions and templates site down
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: > I sent an email to supp...@osuosl.org last night and got a response in 30 > minutes. > > OSUOSL admin says: > >> Looks like varnish died on the machine and I just kicked it. The site(s) >> should be back online now. >> >> The sites have been in an unstable state for quite a while mostly >> because neither we (OSL) nor Sun/Oracle had time to fix the performance >> issues both of the sites entails. Couple that with the fact that the >> machines they power those sites are very underpower considering the load >> they take. It's gotten so bad that we've turned off notifications >> because they just go off all the time. >> >> What really needs to happen is to have the sites completely >> re-architected from the ground up with scaling in mind. At least one of >> the sites is a stock Drupal 5.0 with a very hacked core. I know some >> Sun/Oracle engineers had been working on fixing that into a Drupal 6 >> module but I'm not sure where that left off. >> >> Anyways, If you would like some more help with how these sites can be >> fixed moving forward, please let me know. But we are strectched thin for >> resources. > > It looks like these two sites are going to need attention whether they are > physically moved or the servers transferred to the ASF. > Since the extensions site has 3rd party code that is not under Apache 2.0 license, we have two options: 1) The new extensions.openoffice.org site hosts no code or binaries. It is simply a directory of 3rd party extensions and links to outside sites for the actual files. 2) Optionally, in conjunction with #1, host the extension source and distributions at http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/hosting/ . That is where Apache projects host things like this. > Rob says: > >> Can we make it a priority to migrate these two site to Apache? We >> need volunteers to do this. Nothing happens by magic here. We need >> volunteers to define the technical requirements and work with Apache >> Infrastructure to make this happen. Hopefully we'd make some platform >> and technology choices that would be more stable than the current >> site. I'd recommend moving and then asking Oracle to redirect >> requests for those two subdomains to Apache. > > We did get a zone file yesterday, but it was missing these two domains. I > think that the track is to transfer the domain and zone dns to the ASF first > and then we will be able to do what we want. > > Regards, > Dave > >> >> -Rob >> >> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 2:01 AM, Reizinger Zoltán >> wrote: >>> 2011.07.11. 15:41 keltezéssel, TJ Frazier írta: On 7/11/2011 07:28, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > Reizinger Zoltán wrote: >> >> The two sites works sporadically, needs four five web page refresh to >> load: >> http://templates.services.openoffice.org/ >> http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/ >> To help OOo present users, needs to stabilize sites work. >> Somebody knows what the cause of this problem. > > Yes, I posted some more details in this message a few weeks ago: > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201106.mbox/browser > and I don't have further updates available. > > Note that those sites are not part of the Oracle infrastructure. > > Regards, > Andrea. > Hi, all, Andrea Pescetti's helpful message is easier to find here: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201106.mbox/%3c1308391724.2986.34.camel@localhost.localdomain%3e since it is titled, "Re: Bugzilla or JIRA? ..." etc. Oregon State University Open Source Lab hosts the extensions site, and some Apache-related things as well. Just for fun, I tried looking up OSUOSL's service ticket #18367, but their website was impenetrable to my relatively feeble search attempts. As a systems programmer (retired), I used to read a lot of tickets, and it was my job to solve them. I find this protracted trouble curious, to say the least. :-/ >>> >>> It seems to me it is an abandoned site, nobody care for it, it hurt all OOo >>> effort if we not find a solution to restart, the users ask every day on >>> forum which way they could find specific extensions, and we can not help >>> them. It is sad thing. >>> Zoltan >>> > >
Re: Extensions and templates site down
I sent an email to supp...@osuosl.org last night and got a response in 30 minutes. OSUOSL admin says: > Looks like varnish died on the machine and I just kicked it. The site(s) > should be back online now. > > The sites have been in an unstable state for quite a while mostly > because neither we (OSL) nor Sun/Oracle had time to fix the performance > issues both of the sites entails. Couple that with the fact that the > machines they power those sites are very underpower considering the load > they take. It's gotten so bad that we've turned off notifications > because they just go off all the time. > > What really needs to happen is to have the sites completely > re-architected from the ground up with scaling in mind. At least one of > the sites is a stock Drupal 5.0 with a very hacked core. I know some > Sun/Oracle engineers had been working on fixing that into a Drupal 6 > module but I'm not sure where that left off. > > Anyways, If you would like some more help with how these sites can be > fixed moving forward, please let me know. But we are strectched thin for > resources. It looks like these two sites are going to need attention whether they are physically moved or the servers transferred to the ASF. Rob says: > Can we make it a priority to migrate these two site to Apache? We > need volunteers to do this. Nothing happens by magic here. We need > volunteers to define the technical requirements and work with Apache > Infrastructure to make this happen. Hopefully we'd make some platform > and technology choices that would be more stable than the current > site. I'd recommend moving and then asking Oracle to redirect > requests for those two subdomains to Apache. We did get a zone file yesterday, but it was missing these two domains. I think that the track is to transfer the domain and zone dns to the ASF first and then we will be able to do what we want. Regards, Dave > > -Rob > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 2:01 AM, Reizinger Zoltán > wrote: >> 2011.07.11. 15:41 keltezéssel, TJ Frazier írta: >>> >>> On 7/11/2011 07:28, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Reizinger Zoltán wrote: > > The two sites works sporadically, needs four five web page refresh to > load: > http://templates.services.openoffice.org/ > http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/ > To help OOo present users, needs to stabilize sites work. > Somebody knows what the cause of this problem. Yes, I posted some more details in this message a few weeks ago: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201106.mbox/browser and I don't have further updates available. Note that those sites are not part of the Oracle infrastructure. Regards, Andrea. >>> Hi, all, >>> >>> Andrea Pescetti's helpful message is easier to find here: >>> >>> >>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201106.mbox/%3c1308391724.2986.34.camel@localhost.localdomain%3e >>> >>> since it is titled, "Re: Bugzilla or JIRA? ..." etc. >>> >>> Oregon State University Open Source Lab hosts the extensions site, and >>> some Apache-related things as well. Just for fun, I tried looking up >>> OSUOSL's service ticket #18367, but their website was impenetrable to my >>> relatively feeble search attempts. >>> >>> As a systems programmer (retired), I used to read a lot of tickets, and it >>> was my job to solve them. I find this protracted trouble curious, to say the >>> least. :-/ >> >> It seems to me it is an abandoned site, nobody care for it, it hurt all OOo >> effort if we not find a solution to restart, the users ask every day on >> forum which way they could find specific extensions, and we can not help >> them. It is sad thing. >> Zoltan >>
Re: Extensions and templates site down
Can we make it a priority to migrate these two site to Apache? We need volunteers to do this. Nothing happens by magic here. We need volunteers to define the technical requirements and work with Apache Infrastructure to make this happen. Hopefully we'd make some platform and technology choices that would be more stable than the current site. I'd recommend moving and then asking Oracle to redirect requests for those two subdomains to Apache. -Rob On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 2:01 AM, Reizinger Zoltán wrote: > 2011.07.11. 15:41 keltezéssel, TJ Frazier írta: >> >> On 7/11/2011 07:28, Andrea Pescetti wrote: >>> >>> Reizinger Zoltán wrote: The two sites works sporadically, needs four five web page refresh to load: http://templates.services.openoffice.org/ http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/ To help OOo present users, needs to stabilize sites work. Somebody knows what the cause of this problem. >>> >>> Yes, I posted some more details in this message a few weeks ago: >>> >>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201106.mbox/browser >>> and I don't have further updates available. >>> >>> Note that those sites are not part of the Oracle infrastructure. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Andrea. >>> >> Hi, all, >> >> Andrea Pescetti's helpful message is easier to find here: >> >> >> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201106.mbox/%3c1308391724.2986.34.camel@localhost.localdomain%3e >> >> since it is titled, "Re: Bugzilla or JIRA? ..." etc. >> >> Oregon State University Open Source Lab hosts the extensions site, and >> some Apache-related things as well. Just for fun, I tried looking up >> OSUOSL's service ticket #18367, but their website was impenetrable to my >> relatively feeble search attempts. >> >> As a systems programmer (retired), I used to read a lot of tickets, and it >> was my job to solve them. I find this protracted trouble curious, to say the >> least. :-/ > > It seems to me it is an abandoned site, nobody care for it, it hurt all OOo > effort if we not find a solution to restart, the users ask every day on > forum which way they could find specific extensions, and we can not help > them. It is sad thing. > Zoltan >
Re: Extensions and templates site down
On 11/07/2011 TJ Frazier wrote: > On 7/11/2011 07:28, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > Yes, I posted some more details in this message a few weeks ago: > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201106.mbox/browser > > and I don't have further updates available. ... > Andrea Pescetti's helpful message is easier to find here: > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201106.mbox/%3c1308391724.2986.34.camel@localhost.localdomain%3e Indeed. Thanks for digging it up from my link, I realize I sent just the generic archive link... > Just for fun, I tried looking up > OSUOSL's service ticket #18367, but their website was impenetrable I was put in CC of the ticket by Thorsten Bosbach of Oracle, and as far as I know there is no web interface; unfortunately, I don't know how to add other people in CC or check the ticket history, I just know that I didn't receive further updates. Regards, Andrea.
Re: Extensions and templates site down
2011.07.11. 15:41 keltezéssel, TJ Frazier írta: On 7/11/2011 07:28, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Reizinger Zoltán wrote: The two sites works sporadically, needs four five web page refresh to load: http://templates.services.openoffice.org/ http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/ To help OOo present users, needs to stabilize sites work. Somebody knows what the cause of this problem. Yes, I posted some more details in this message a few weeks ago: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201106.mbox/browser and I don't have further updates available. Note that those sites are not part of the Oracle infrastructure. Regards, Andrea. Hi, all, Andrea Pescetti's helpful message is easier to find here: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201106.mbox/%3c1308391724.2986.34.camel@localhost.localdomain%3e since it is titled, "Re: Bugzilla or JIRA? ..." etc. Oregon State University Open Source Lab hosts the extensions site, and some Apache-related things as well. Just for fun, I tried looking up OSUOSL's service ticket #18367, but their website was impenetrable to my relatively feeble search attempts. As a systems programmer (retired), I used to read a lot of tickets, and it was my job to solve them. I find this protracted trouble curious, to say the least. :-/ It seems to me it is an abandoned site, nobody care for it, it hurt all OOo effort if we not find a solution to restart, the users ask every day on forum which way they could find specific extensions, and we can not help them. It is sad thing. Zoltan
Re: Extensions and templates site down
On 7/11/2011 07:28, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Reizinger Zoltán wrote: The two sites works sporadically, needs four five web page refresh to load: http://templates.services.openoffice.org/ http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/ To help OOo present users, needs to stabilize sites work. Somebody knows what the cause of this problem. Yes, I posted some more details in this message a few weeks ago: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201106.mbox/browser and I don't have further updates available. Note that those sites are not part of the Oracle infrastructure. Regards, Andrea. Hi, all, Andrea Pescetti's helpful message is easier to find here: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201106.mbox/%3c1308391724.2986.34.camel@localhost.localdomain%3e since it is titled, "Re: Bugzilla or JIRA? ..." etc. Oregon State University Open Source Lab hosts the extensions site, and some Apache-related things as well. Just for fun, I tried looking up OSUOSL's service ticket #18367, but their website was impenetrable to my relatively feeble search attempts. As a systems programmer (retired), I used to read a lot of tickets, and it was my job to solve them. I find this protracted trouble curious, to say the least. :-/ -- /tj/
Re: Extensions and templates site down
Reizinger Zoltán wrote: > The two sites works sporadically, needs four five web page refresh to load: > http://templates.services.openoffice.org/ > http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/ > To help OOo present users, needs to stabilize sites work. > Somebody knows what the cause of this problem. Yes, I posted some more details in this message a few weeks ago: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201106.mbox/browser and I don't have further updates available. Note that those sites are not part of the Oracle infrastructure. Regards, Andrea.
