Re: [OSList] largest ost?

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Lisa,

just to keep the record straight, the 2108 people os was co-facilitated 
by Harrison Owen and me in Würzburg/Germany in 2003.


This open space was convened on the last day of a 4 day international 
conference with a total of 5000 participants on systems constellations.


The Theme was
"Passion and Responsibility
In the Heart of Conflict - Constellations with Families, Organizations, 
Ethnic Groups, Nations".
New was at that time the application of constellations for ethnic groups 
and nations in conflict.


The Theme for the last day in open space was
"NOW, my passion, my responsibility - beyond the conference"

232 issues were posted and delt with in 80 breakout spaces at three 
beginning times... to this day we have no clue how people managed to 
work in the face of 232 issues, it appeared to have been a simple task 
for them.


This event, together with 792 other events are listed in

http://www.openspaceworldscape.org/


a data base and a visualisation of locations on a google map and 
extensive details to each event.


You and everyone having facilitated events is invited to record those 
events in this data base... except for the 2108 event mentioned above 
there is no other of the really big events listed.


By the way, Erich Kolenaty put together a photoshow, its right here

http://www.transformation.at/documents/OS_Wuerzburg_minimized.pdf


His title is "Welcome to the fotoshow of the world‘s hugest Open Space".

Of course, we know better, there are a whole bunch of events with 2, 3 
and more thousands of participants.


Not recorded.

Have a great weekend,
greetings from Berlin, still feeling the Belgrade WOSonOS in my old 
bones and looking for the next one in September of 2015 in Poland.


mmp

On 23.09.2014 22:59, Lisa Heft - wrote:

Hi, Raffi, hi, friends, and a deep bow to you, Harold for your amazing
work behind the scenes to help the mechanics of this list support
incredible communication and sharing.

Mark Matlock and I did several face-to-face OS events in Los Angeles,
Cincinnati and Atlanta, USA - the largest of which was, if I recall
correctly, 3500.
I have done quite a number of them at the 2400+ level. Peggy - I forget
what your largest may have been? Michael P - was it 2108? Christine
Whitney Sanchez - your largest? I name these folks because I am trying
to recall who are my OSLIST colleagues who have done this sort of
large-group OS…

One thing I learned quite a bit from was the collective work done by
Christine Whitney Sanchez, Gabriel Shirley and other amazing folks at
the 51st Girl Scout Congress - how to weave dialogue (of various forms -
different processes with different groups / amounts of people for
different specific reasons) into an 11,000 person event. I was *so*
honored to be on that team, doing among other things an Open Space
meeting of I think it may have been 780 people. Verbal dialogue,
internal dialogue… Open Space, World Cafe, story looms...lovely stuff.
Such rich learning, in the pre-work, in the conference, and upon reflection…

I don’t know how many people Kai Degner (then the mayor of Harrisonburg
- yes - Harrison…burg... Virginia… ) had participating in his city-wide
OS forums…

Lisa

On Sep 23, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Harold Shinsato mailto:har...@shinsato.com>> wrote:


Hi OSList,

Raffi's email below triggered complaints from Google about Raffi's
"Unauthenticated email from yahoo.com " that
unsubscribed at least 130 gmail and googlemail addresses from the
OSList. I've never seen a problem like this in all the years I've been
managing the OSList. Hopefully it is resolved. I think I've added you
all back. But it seems Raffi's email didn't make it through to the non
google people as well.

Raffi asked me to resend it. Hopefully this will go through.

Cheers,
Harold

Subject:
[OSList] largest ost?
From:
Raffi Aftandelian 
Date:
9/23/14 10:39 AM
To:
OSlist 
CC:
Michael Pannwitz , "pe...@opencirclecompany.com"
, "vir...@mail.ru" 

friends,

my friend and colleague Misha Pronin in Moscow is wondering what is
the largest ost event ever and where did it take place?
thanks!

laramtsa,

raffi

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[OSList] Stammtisch at 7pm today in Berlin

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear List,

any and all of you that just happen to be in Berlin, join us for an 
extraordinary Stammtisch here

http://kreuzberger-weltlaterne.de/


Among the guests will be Jasmina who convened the WOSonOS in Belgrade 
last week and at least two colleagues from Poland who are on the 
Planning Team for next years WOSonOS in Krakow.


We start gathering at 7pm.
As always, whoever comes is the right people and any issue anyone raises...

Greetings from Berlin
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Re: [OSList] Open Space for a group of 6??

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Kari,

actually, pretty regularly, much of that which sponsors and the planning 
group envisioned actually did happen in and after the os-events I 
facilitated.
(This becomes evident in meetings of planning groups after os-events 
when they look at the mind-map they produced in the first planning 
session before the os event to the questions: What is different the Day 
after the Event? What has changed? What is taking place in my 
workplace/neighborhood/organisations on the day after the event? Which 
perspectives have opened?...)


Also pretty regularly, there were big (and small) surprises of the kind 
that have been reported in this string (closing stuff down, creating a 
new approach, etc.).


Whatever it is that happens in an os-event has shown me (and I assume 
participants and sponsor-participants see it, too) that there is 
infinetly more possible to manifest itself than I am able to imagine. In 
fact, regardless of what I (and perhaps everybody else in the event) 
expect or envision of the gathering to come up with seems of no interest 
to those processes that act in an os-event.


Sometimes I get the impression that my (and perhaps our) goals, visions, 
aspirations, hopes... are just another kind of control in respect what 
we want to occur. This seems to be just another way of looking at "not 
attached to outcome". Usually, this is a prescription for myself in my 
role as facilitator. Extending it to everyone in an os-gathering might 
free up more of the selforganisationforce.


Greetings from Berlin
mmp

On 06.10.2014 16:36, Kári Gunnarsson via OSList wrote:

I love the stories with few people in Open Space. With one or even with
none, but still a lot of successes. The act of the invitation and the
provision of space are remarkable and have productive outcome without
relation to the actual turnout. But be warned, the actual outcome is not
always within our or ours sponsors prediction, but we have learned that
the produce is good.

/Kári



On 6 October 2014 14:22, Peggy Holman via OSList
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>
wrote:

I once ran a two day Open Space with the 5-member board of a
nonprofit. They got together in every possible configuration over
those two days. Pairs, trios, solo, whole group.

It wasn't as dramatic as Gerard's story. We knew going in we'd just
have five.

As with any good Open Space, there was passion for the subject.  It
was an incredibly productive meeting setting the course for the
organization.


Peggy
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 > On Oct 6, 2014, at 2:23 AM, Robyn Williams ► via OSList
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
 >
 > What a great story, thank you, one of those rich and delightful
learnings.
 >
 >
 > Warm wishes, Robyn
 >
 > Robyn Williams
 > SeeChangeWA
 > Western Australia
 > Fremantle ~ Geraldton
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 >
 >
 > -Original Message-
 > From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org
] On Behalf Of
openspacedk1 via OSList
 > Sent: Monday, 6 October 2014 2:33 PM
 > To: Agnieszka Maja Wawrzyniak; World wide Open Space Technology
email list
 > Cc: g...@openspace.dk 
 > Subject: Re: [OSList] Open Space for a group of 6??
 >
 > Dear Agnieszka,
 >
 > Smallest I have experienced was with 4, I believe that as lf the
issue at stake has enouigh energy, it works - and this is clearlily
the case from what you describe.
 >
 > As an example, I once facilitated an event for the alumni network
of a higher educational institution.
 > All teaching staff and all alumni were invited, a big room and
sufficient catering for everybody.
 >
 > Everybody turned out to be the chairwoman (who had invited) and
five participants.
 > So she was quite depressed and wanted to cancel. I said "the
people are the right people", we'll have good discussions and a
usefullmeeting, and she went along - and we had a good meeting, with
a clear conclusion: the alumni organisation was ended.
 >
 > This was not the end of the story - thechair went to the rector
to inform him, whereupon he said "our alumni association ? Our
network of ambassadors in society ?" What does the director of
the alumni bureay say to this ?
 >
 > When he found out there in act wasn't an alumni bureau, let alone
a director, he called an emergency meeting of the management,
established an alumni bureau and started a capmaign.
 >
 > This is some years ago - I did learn to suggest to have
participants register to avoid wasting all too much coffee and
sandwiches -
 >
 > Greetings Gerard
 >
 > Open Space Institite Denmark
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > isAgnieszka Maja Wawrzy

Re: [OSList] Earliest known reference to {holding the space}

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Jeff, dont forget taking a nap!
mmp, on the run to take just one

On 22.10.2014 00:45, Jeff Aitken via OSList wrote:

Another related piece that comes to memory is an early phrasing that I
have not seen for a long time.

"Preserve and protect the Law of Two Feet."

Now it's often called the Law of Mobility or other terms. But the
words "preserve and protect" I have not seen for years.

I remember my early understanding that this is the one job of the
person holding space. The only occasion to intervene in the event is
when a person (such as the CEO, despite our pre-work) interferes with
another person's ability to exercise the Law. It's our job to preserve
and protect the Law.

Along with being "completely present and completely invisible" and
"picking up coffee cups" ~

Jeff




On 10/21/14, Daniel Mezick via OSList  wrote:

Hi Harrison,

Curiosity motivates my original search, dating back to 2011 or so. Words
and phrases are important symbols and so I am curious about these
symbols, and their origin, and what these symbols might now mean.

And so I wonder if 'holding space', as /you/ use it, might mean 'holding
void'.

Also, I am hoping there might be previous post or two, perhaps located
in OSLIST archives, where your earlier thoughts on this term may be found.

Kind Regards,
Daniel



On 10/21/14 10:56 AM, Harrison Owen via OSList wrote:


I'm not quite sure what motivated the search for the "earliest"
reference to "holding space" or Open Space, but I can assure anybody
who cares that in one form or another it substantially predates the
Quakers and, obviously, me. As Jeff correctly observes, my usage was
first in context that had nothing to do with OST, if only because I
had yet to drink the cool aid. But I had been thinking a lot about the
process of transformation, an interest that dates back to the early
60's. And in many traditions, particularly Buddhist, there is a
critical period/phase/moment of silence and nothingness. Goodness
knows what  the original words were, in whatever language... but a
typical English translation is "void." Works for me, but I guess I
found "open space" to be more congruent with my intent and experience.
Anyhow, that's how it came out.

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*Subject:* Re: [OSList] Earliest known reference to {holding the space}

While tangential, it may be useful to remember that Harrison's own
first definition of Open Space was not the methodology we know.

Rather it refers to the mysterious place in a journey of
transformation - for the individual, for the organization - 'between
what was and what might become.' (In 'Spirit: Transformation and
Development in Organizations' 1987.)

While the methodology showed up in 1985 to later become a powerful
means to support individuals and organizations 'across the open space'
it was not mentioned in the book.

'For the organization standing at the edge of open space with a full
realization that the old way isn't working anymore, and the new way
has yet to be found, the primary issue is the passage through that
Open Space, and the articulation of a new story... a new way of being
there. ... It would not be stretching a point to understand the
process at hand as a dramatic event or sequence of events, with the
leader as director or conductor...'

The job of the leader is 'leadership by indirection, which
orchestrates a new, positive story, created so far as possible out of
the existing elements of mythos, which captures and excites the
organizational Spirit, and focuses it in productive directions.'

And so we give thanks for Open Space Technology, which helps make all
that work SO much easier.

Jeff



 Original message 
From: Jeff Aitken
Date:10/20/2014 8:21 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: Harold Shinsato ,World wide Open Space Technology email list
Subject: Re: [OSList] Earliest known reference to {holding the space}

Brilliant work Harold. I also was thinking about the famous
pediatrician and therapist Winnicott and his theory of the mothering
'holding environment' in which children develop. As the child grows,
the space being held grows too, tho not named that way specifically.

Another child therapist Sandner literally talked about an Open Space
held by the mother role along similar lines. He once came to a talk by
Harrison.

Nozick reminds me of good old Werner Erhard saying we are a 'clearing'
in which bodymind and the world show up. Influenced b

Re: [OSList] Authority Distribution in Open Space

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear John Baxter,

sometimes the folks telling us on TV or such about the weather talk in a 
way as if the weather has a will. And feelings. And a strategy.
Well, this is just their way of talking about something that is 
difficult to describe.
In my way of looking at the world, they are describing manifestations of 
the selforganisationforce meddling with the weather... without having 
proper language for the manisfestations so they use psychological terms 
or the likes to make sense of it.


This holds for manifestations of the selforganisationforce observed in 
groups, organisations and systems composed of people.


One of the specific manifestations is the action of a battle with two 
groups of soldiers attacking each other. It looks as of there is one 
"will" in each group of soldiers. Everybody does the same, all fire at 
the same time, all advance or retreat in orderly fashion.
It seems, however, to be more likely that they show this "will" because 
all will of the kind we usually talk about has been drilled out of their 
minds and souls and bodies...yes, a little bit is left in each soldier, 
but "control", which is that which can reduce the acivity of the 
selforganisationforce to near zero (never completely), has been very 
powerful.


Cheers
mmp



On 22.10.2014 01:11, John Baxter via OSList wrote:

Sure thing Harold

Yes groups have an emergent wholeness, but that does not mean that they
take on characteristics we understand in individuals.  We should be
careful not to anthropomorphise (?) them.

Groups definitely have aliveness, needs, strengths, weakenesses,
robustness, identity... lots of things.  I can understand what these
characteristics mean for a collective, as a system, and a collection of
individuals.  To me they all make sense.

I can't understand what "will" means for a group.  Nor do I see will in
action.  Some similar things I do see... e.g. the individuals in a group
give consent for a collective decision... but this isn't the same thing
as will.  This is group behaviour emerging out of a collective of
individuals, with individual wills, consenting to be identified with a
certain position by virtue of membership (some more loosely bound than
others, and all with their own interpretation of the contract).
This is /not/ will, it is characteristically different.

I am guilty myself of shorthanding, using individual psychological terms
to describe group behaviour.  Sometimes it is pragmatic, but we
shouldn't hold on too tight.

Cheers



Michael M Pannwitz
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Re: [OSList] Opening Space

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Harrison,

as for #2 my take is that there is no such thing as "the" passionate and 
responsible and neither such thing as "the" dispassionate and 
irresponsible. At least I have never seen such critters in my os-life.


And appart from that there are all kinds of realities. Which probably 
could also result in seeing "passionate" und "dispassionate" etc.


And, if I as facilitator get into categorizing folks or doing other 
distracting stuff (for myself), I am down the road of disaster having 
lost the capacity for being "completely present and utterly invisible".


However, I have heard from sponsors and facilitators that they observed 
folks in open space as very responsible and very passionate and were 
amazed... they had always seen those as grey mice in "reality".


In case we all are already in open space, which I suspect is exactly the 
case, are we all scared?


Looking at the folks in the GDR, definitely in open space even though it 
appeared close to shut down, for some reason and in some fashion did 
gather and act in a way that hardly anybody, least they themselves and 
even less those in "power" had thought possible.


Greetings from Berlin
mmp

On 11.11.2014 20:23, Harrison Owen via OSList wrote:

To #1 I might say... I have no idea whether you will get what you want.
But I’m absolutely sure that you will never find it if you don’t look.
Then again, you may find something better along the way.

As for #2... That one is definitely above my pay grade.

Harrison

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*From:*OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf
Of *Daniel Mezick via OSList
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:19 AM
*To:* Harrison Owen; 'World wide Open Space Technology email list'
*Subject:* Re: [OSList] Opening Space

Hi Harrison,

Here is where I am...been thinking about this:

"Everyone's already IN open space, they're just scared of it."

So here goes:

1. Reality: Its all open space all the time. In that environ, then,
Lawof2Feet applies. "Go somewhere you can get what you say you want: to
contribute and/or learn. Since it's all open space all the time, that
law is active all the time, if I do not like the situation, off I go,
seeking what I say I want. Or at least what my unconscious wants.

This raises my question: "does everyone get want they want in the long run?"

2. Reality: Its all open space all the time. In that environ, then,
"Whatever happens is the only thing that could have." There are results;
the passionate and responsible help make "the only thing". Likewise the
dispassionate and irresponsible help make "the only thing." Or do they?
Both groups act on their intent and "the only thing that could have"
ensues...?

This raises my question: "do intentions=results and vice versa?"

Daniel

On 11/11/14 9:58 AM, Harrison Owen wrote:

Dan  -- not quite sure where you are going, but if I had an answer
it would go something like this: “Sometimes... It all depends.”

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*Subject:* Re: [OSList] Opening Space

Yo Harrison,

Couple questions:

 1. Does everyone get what they want, in the long run?
 2. Do intentions = results ...and vice versa?


Daniel

On 11/10/14 8:49 PM, Harrison Owen via OSList wrote:

It might seem like a pure ego trip, and if so – please forgive.
But I do think there might be something here. Please enjoy.  ho

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Re: [OSList] Drucker conference in Vienna: "Managing Complexity"

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Daniel,
before I sit down to write an E-Mail I put on my suit.
So whats this slant on suits.
I recall seeing Harrison with suit and tie in one of the first os events 
he facilitated. After that it went all downhill with hat etc.


Have a great day wherever you are
mmp

On 14.11.2014 17:12, Daniel Mezick via OSList wrote:

I'm not watching the Vienna event as closely as Suzanne, and some of the
others.

I do notice some things about it.

I'm glad that "people in suits" like Gary Hamel (et al) are now noticing
what is happening, and writing and talking about it. As for "doing", it
looks like the main activity is... arranging conference events.

I'm sad and afraid about the format. It's the standard us-them
conference format. The experts dispense wisdom from the stage, the rest
receive this revealed wisdom.


The structure of the program is a big tip-off to what is happening there...

http://www.druckerforum.org/2013/the-event/program/



By attending this, the attendee authorizes the elevation of the people
on the stage to the status of authority figures.

The title of the event might also tip us off: "Managing Complexity"

To manage is to direct and control. The title therefore expands to:

"Directing and Controlling Complexity".

That's a very interesting title for a conference that is presumably
about emergence in business organizations.


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Re: [OSList] December 8-9 London / December 17-18 +19 California: Learning and Exploring Together

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Lisa,

your reminder note wound up in my Spam folder.
It did not show in my OSLIST folder.

In case this is the experience of others, too, something needs to be 
done. Just saw it by my very rare perusal of the Spam folder, usually I 
just delete the stuff there without looking at it.


On another issue: Once you do embark on the long journey from Berkeley 
to London you might have a look on stopping over in Berlin and offer 
your workshops here, too. Even 25 years ago when the Wall was still up, 
folks made it here and I do remember seeing you in Berlin at a WOSonOS.
Berlin being the secret capitol of open space with some 80 os-workers 
residing here and working all over the world this might be fertile 
grounds for expanding on os, prework and other such amazing things...


Good luck on your journey
cheers
mmp

On 18.11.2014 16:55, Lisa Heft - via OSList wrote:

Hello, dear colleagues -
This is just to remind you that I am hosting *four* learning events in the next 
few weeks.
Several of you have asked me to re-announce at a time closer to the events so 
you have a better idea of your work schedules and availability, so that is what 
I am doing.

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Join me for mutual learning and exploration - about these things and about our 
work as facilitators. Contact me directly for further information about...

December 8-9 - Open Space Learning Workshop - London
For people of all levels of experience - an exploration of lessons-learned 
worldwide about everything from developing themes to power dynamics to what-ifs 
and when-not-to’s.

December 10-11 - The Power of Pre-Work - London
An exploration about all the elements that support the success and productivity 
of any face-to-face dialogue meeting, Open Space or otherwise. From the true 
nature of invitation (access and inclusion) to stretching our brains about use 
of the meeting room to documenting dialogue (for whom, why and how).

December 17-18 - Open Space Learning Workshop - Berkeley California USA
For people of all levels of experience - an exploration of lessons-learned 
worldwide about everything from developing themes to power dynamics to what-ifs 
and when-not-to’s.

December 19 - The Fabulous Facilitation Forum - Berkeley California USA
This is what I used to call the Open Space on Open Space - but people invite 
and engage in so many things about facilitation, not just about Open Space. A 
one-day participant-driven conference, about anything you want to explore. 
Because OS is its format.

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For more information about content, schedule and pricing (always when I host - 
each individual gets to create their own unique price) - contact me directly at 
lisah...@openingspace.net

Do let me know **SOON** as this helps me in my own pre-work and planning in 
these final weeks before these learning events.
And because for the Open Space workshop specifically, there may be a bit of 
pre-reading.

I SO look forward to seeing, playing and learning with and from you … !

Lisa Heft
Consultant, Facilitator, Educator
This season’s Poet Laureate, OSLIST
President Emerita, Open Space Institute USA
Fellow Emerita, Columbia University
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Re: [OSList] Open Space by the book?

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Chris,

every time I facilitated an OS-gathering, I carefully checked the place 
and pinpointed the place where folks coming to the event would enter the 
building. Right there I put the "Welcome" sign. If participants came 
from different countries we arranged it so folks could write "welcome" 
in their languages (see attachment).


Then I looked for the door to the space where folks would gather in a 
circle and put the "Be prepared to be surprised" sign (in my German 
version its even more of an admonition: "Augen Auf! Mit Überraschungen 
ist zu rechnen.") on the door making sure it would be seen when the door 
is open. And then, of course, refer to it in my introduction.


As for all signs (Law, Facts of Life, Crittors) I usually used flipchart 
paper and always wrote all of them by hand (anybody can do that 
everywhere any time, just paper and markers) for every event, part of my 
meditation. These posters were hung horizontally except for the 
admonition, it was vertical and slightly askew.


One time during an ost-training when participants got into setting up an 
os event the person in charge for the admonition felt that it had to go 
onto a pinwall in a certain place. Since there was no pinwall left over 
for that purpose she looked through the venue for an alternative and 
found a broken down pinwall with legs of different lengths, so the whole 
contraption was askew, not what you would expect in an orderly place. 
She felt this was perfect for "Be prepared to be surprised!".


Of course, she received the "Most innovative intervention achievement 
award" that year at a special ceremony in Weimar where I treated the 
whole crowd to local wine.


One criteria for the award is a consequential manifestation of "Form 
follows Function". That, I think is also a criteria for the question 
Harrison raises "Why do we do what we do? What is the intent or purpose?"


The outcome of that reflection might be that all facilitating os-events 
will clarify for themselves why they do stuff and what their intention 
is. And that, surprise, will result in infinite variations on the 
approach.


Greetings from Berlin
mmp





On 18.11.2014 00:24, Chris Corrigan via OSList wrote:

Yeah…

I’ve always thought of Fr. Brian’s slogan as the fifth law.  I
appreciate “where ever it happens is the right place” but “Be prepared
to be surprised” was always, like Brian himself, so very practical!

Chris



On Nov 17, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Michael Herman mailto:mich...@michaelherman.com>> wrote:

All of us as facilitators would do well to remember that people
are not coming to a meeting to be wowed by a process that you
personally love.  They are coming to get work done.  And so it
behooves us to put a lid on our passions for the mechanics of the
process and simply open space so that work can get done.  Later on
you can reflect on WHY it happened like that.


yes yes yes, chris.  it may well be that the, shall we say,
"traditional" story of 4 principles, one law and a couple of bugs is
ready to go the way of voting.  there is still something to be said
for talking about the purpose, and something to be said for not
knowing what will happen.  i always liked that fr. brian used to put
"be prepared to be surprised" at the entrance to the space.  and
something to be said for giving people a chance to think about what
they want to do/post, before the chaos of writing and announcing
begins.  probably this "time to think" is the most important part
about talking about principles and bugs.  the higher the stakes and/or
the larger the group, probably the more time for pre-soaking.  guess
that's the art of it really... just enough, but no more, in the
briefing.  and in whatever way that we don't create a distraction from
which we cannot escape.  the better we know the group and the issues,
probably the easier it is to do this.






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On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:

I have opened space many many times without ever mentioning the
four principles, the law or any other assorted wisdom associated
with WHY the process works.

My basic practice is to explain HOW we will organize ourselves,
pointing out the tools we have to do so: paper, markers, bulletin
board.

I talk about passion and responsibility “Please only post a topic
you will personally show up for…” and I mention the freedom of
choosing and moving.

That is all that people need to get into Open Space.  I’m not sure
the principles or the law or anything else are necessary
pre-conditions for the appearance and deployment of Open Space in
a meeting.  I think they help explain what is happening, and I
think they help people let go of control a little.

All 

Re: [OSList] Open Space for my own team

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Agnieszka,

for decades I have practiced the exchange of "rain checks" (kupon, 
Gutschein, كوبون, buono, купон,..) exactly for situations as the one you 
describe.


If someone wants me to be a facilitator for a situation they cant afford 
to pay a fee for I ask them to pay me with a rain check. This means that 
I can draw on them in case I need a facilitator, so we exchange services 
without money flowing.


This, of course, also works for baby sitting, haircuts, back rubs, a 
translation, an editing job... you name it.


We also suggested this procedures to participants of trainings: Convene 
an Open Space in your business / team / neighborhood / school / NGO /etc 
and "hire" another participant from the training to be the 
facilitator... keep doing this for a while and you will be surprised 
about the kind of contracts some of us need (those with fees to buy 
groceries, send the kids to college, etc.).


If you offer not just the facilitation of the "event" but also ask the 
colleague to facilitate the prework (planning session) and the action 
planning and the Next Meeting, the whole enchilada, the colleague will 
get a chance to have a grand experience... and then you in return.


The other aspect you mention has already been discussed a bit by others 
on the list. My experience is that I cant really be totally present and 
utterly invisible for the facilitator role if I also have urgent issues 
and I find it impossible for me to dive into issues full throtle having 
my facilitation role in the back of my mind. So, I avoid it.


My longest experience in one and the same organisation has been my 10 
year stint in the German Agency Youth where I facilitated some 30 events 
in that decade. One of the regular events was the yearly retreat of 
everyone working in the office (about 35 people). After a while folks 
felt that they could run "internal" events in os by themselves. I 
supported their idea adding that I wanted to be part of the experiment 
in the role of visiting colleague giving them a feed back. As far as I 
could tell, it did go well. The two colleagues who did the facilitating 
and also had issues and the group as a whole processed this experience 
and decided not to repeat it.


In another organisation I used to be a member of, the berlin open space 
cooperative (boscop), we switched from one of us being the facilitator 
to all of us having a "silent" introduction. After setting up the venue 
together (chairs, signs, bulletin board, breakout spaces)we gathered 
in the circle and starting moving into the open space everyone having 
the (silent) facilitation role... after 8 to 12 minutes folks started to 
announce and post issues. We had a standard agenda (times and 
activities) and it all went smoothly... after closure we had a feed back 
which resulted in a steady flow of adjustments.
In this case the members of boscop all were experienced os-workers and 
had experienced each other in the various roles typical for an os-event. 
So, the starting point was unique.


Greetings from Berlin and wishing you a productive open space in 
Szczecin and see you next year at the September WOSonOS in Poland

mmp

On 19.11.2014 08:58, Agnieszka Maja Wawrzyniak via OSList wrote:

Hi All,

I am to facilitate an Open Space for a team I am a part of and I really
would like to participate, but as a facilitator, I know I shouldn't.
We will probably not able to hire an external facilitator, so I'm tryng
to work this out...

Do you have similar experiences? Any ideas? Recommendations?

Greets
Agnieszka



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Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 45, Issue 16

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Anne,

intrigued myself with "life force".
Is it related to the "selforganisation force"?

Greetings from Berlin
mmp

On 20.11.2014 22:39, Anne Stadler via OSList wrote:

Is OpenSpace a Meeting?

Dear Daniel et al

For me, open space is a condition of life.

OST has many forms: a meeting or gathering is the most common collective
form.
However, it's also a way of life, a "technology" (tool) for living one's
life.
Do you find yourself (in your inner talk) applying the law or principles
that way?
Eg: "Do i really care about that? Maybe i'll pass that one up."
Or in relationship?
Eg: someone you were expecting at a meeting doesn't show up: "Oh
ok...Whoever comes are the right people."
For me, this form of OST keeps me in the flow of the life force.
Hmmm maybe OST is a way of tracking the life force?  In one's personal
life as well as our collective life??

Those are some thoughts that are coming to me.  You're raising
interesting questions, Daniel.  Thanks!

Anne stadler


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Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 23:45:17 -0500
From: Daniel Mezick via OSList mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>
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Hi Agnieszka,

I feel you have excellent instincts with respect to your discomfort with
the idea of Facilitating and participating as a member at the same time.
Like you,  I, too am also uncomfortable... occupying the roles of
Facilitator and Participant at the same time.

I coach Agile. If I am functioning as coach to the group, I always
refrain from Facilitating OST, because my current belief is that I
probably cannot be effective as the OST Facilitator in that spot.

In any event, instead, I prefer to pay a friend to do the Facilitation,
and then play in the OST game as a Participant.


And so: I wonder if you might have a local friend, someone interested in
your OST work, who is not currently a member of your team. I wonder if
you could teach this local-friend person the basics of OST Facilitation
ahead of time. I wonder if you could teach this person how to do it, in,
say, 1 or 2 hours, with a little, private, mock "chairs-in-a-circle"
walk-through, with the posters, etc.

I wonder if your friend might then be willing to actually do the
Facilitation of your team's OST event,  in exchange for your excellent
before/during/after mentoring (and the very excellent learn-by-doing
opportunity.)

Kind Regards,
Daniel



On 11/19/14 2:58 AM, Agnieszka Maja Wawrzyniak via OSList wrote:

Hi All,

I am to facilitate an Open Space for a team I am a part of and I
really would like to participate, but as a facilitator, I know I
shouldn't.
We will probably not able to hire an external facilitator, so I'm
tryng to work this out...

Do you have similar experiences? Any ideas? Recommendations?

Greets
Agnieszka



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[OSList] Happy Birthday, ho

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear List,

our great friend, brother and just sent a note in which he also 
mentioned his 80th birthday today.
I send a note back and thought I let you know just in case you also 
missed the date.


Greetings from Berlin where I just revelled in memories of his 75th 
birthday party on his visit here conducting his "Practice of Peace" 
program. Among many other things someone had set up a pretty impressive 
martini cocktail bar... just a reminder on what it took to have him 
discover OST.


Cheers
mmp
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[OSList] Fwd: NOW

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

... got permission from Florian to send his birthday greeting also via 
our List... just enjoyed him pointing out the NOW in the name of the 
fellow who is celebrating the beginning of his 80th year on this planet...


cheers
mmp


 Original Message 
Subject:NOW
Date:   Tue, 2 Dec 2014 13:30:46 +0100
From:   fischer florian 
To: harrison owen 



HARRISO*/NOW/*EN

A HUGE AMOUNT
OF FURTHER */NOW/*´S
TO YOU.

FLORIAN




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[OSList] Fwd: Stammtisch zur Weihnachtszeit in Berlin

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear List,

all of you passing through Berlin on December 22 feel invited to our 
extraordinary Stammtisch beginning at 7pm (open end) in this place

http://www.kreuzberger-weltlaterne.de/


The Berlin open space tribe has been meeting there for a decade... the 
Xmastime gatherings started three years ago. Dont be surprised if 
someone brings a guitar and animates us to sing along or to meet someone 
you havent seen for a long time or just last week in New York or 
Singapore...


Cheers
mmp

 Original Message 
Subject: Stammtisch zur Weihnachtszeit in Berlin
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 17:20:54 +0100
From: Michael M Pannwitz 
Reply-To: mmpannw...@gmail.com
To: undisclosed-recipients:;

Lieber open space Stamm in Berlin,

Jo Toepfer und ich laden Euch alle zusammen herzlich ein zu unserem 3.
Stammtisch zur Weihnachtszeit am
Montag
22. Dezember 2014, ab
19:00, wie immer in der
Kreuzberger Weltlaterne
http://www.kreuzberger-weltlaterne.de/

Der große runde Tisch ist reserviert.

Herzliche Grüße von mir und Jo, der sich wie auch 2012 wieder in
Afghanistan tummelt, mit open space natürlich, hier der direkte link zu
der Veranstaltung (30.11. bis 2.12, wahrscheinlich gerade in der
Handlungsplanung) in der Open space worldscape

http://www.openspaceworldscape.org/an_veran.asp?veranstaltungId=1216&sprache=en&von_seite=index.asp&ds=0&branche=&begleiterId=&anzeigeOrtId=


Laden dauert etwas, ist ja auch weit weg!

Herzliche Grüße aus Lichterfelde
mmp
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Auf der open space world map finden Sie 131 Frauen und Männer,
die in Deutschland, Österreich und der Schweiz  mit dem open space
Verfahren arbeiten.
Weltweit haben sich 401 aus 69 Ländern eingetragen, die in insgesamt 143
Ländern aktiv sind.
Mal reinschauen!www.openspaceworldmap.org



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[OSList] WOSonOS 2015

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Adriana,

a pretty impressive group of polish colleagues - more than half a dozen 
- invited WOSonOS 2015 to be in Poland.

As far as I know the dates were set, too:September 10 through 13.
There was also talk about it being in Krakow but as I understand a 
number of other cities are competing. Dont worry we know that wherever 
it happens will be the right place, right?
I myself love Krakow because it has a dragon and is one of the oldest 
cities in Europe that has had a vision of Europe more than 150 years 
ago. And, we had the first international gathering, in opens space of 
course, on the "Interactive Organisation"...


I am sure news will be coming forth soon!

Greetings from Berlin (a pretty good place to pass through on your way 
to Poland next year with more than 50 facilitators here anxious to connect).


To see some of them, have a look at the world map, precisely here where 
you see all listed for Berlin itself

http://www.openspaceworldmap.org/moreinfo/contactinfo.php?c_id=69&zip=1&;


Have a great day either in Mexico or in Canada
cheers
mmp



On 12.12.2014 17:57, Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring via OSList wrote:

Yes Daneil I feel sopported by this grou even considering that we are
far from each other in Kilometers but we are close int his interest in
open space! I have a question when and wherre will be the next wososnos?
I really whant to be there this next time!
Adriana

2014-12-12 10:12 GMT-06:00 Daniel Mezick via OSList
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>:

OK, so it been about 40 hours since the The Lurker Game got started;
almost 2 days.

Almost 70 replies. Some interesting responses! What is most
interesting is what and how people are choosing to disclose so much
rich data. Like, their start with OST, and in what year, what events
they have attended, etc.

There have even been some disclosures about the "why" behind the
pattern of reading but not writing to the list.

All in all, an interesting game so far!

Let's keep playing.


On 12/10/14 6:25 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList wrote:

Some of us were on a call on Tuesday, talking about Open
Spaceand OSLIST

...the participants at the time were

Chuni Li
Daniel Mezick
Karen Davis
Linda Stevenson
Lucas Cioffi
Paul Levy
Peggy Holman
Skye Hirst
Suzanne Daigle
Tricia Chirumbole
Harold Shinsato

We discussed OSLIST culture, and how the culture of OSLIST may not
actually be very easy to figure out...

...we talked about how this list has hundreds upon hundreds of
members, with just 25 to 45 people (give or take) who post or
reply with anything close to a regular frequency, and how some
speak with highly authoritative voices.

...we talked a bit about how the culture of OSLIST /might actually
be kind of intimidating for new people/ to participate in.


The Game

We have no idea how many "regular lurkers" are in the group...we
talked about trying to find out.


So: if you are a "regular lurker", someone who examines these
OSLIST threads periodically but does not actively participate ...
are you willing to play a little game?


The Lurker Game: you are invited to play...

1. *...The goal* is to collectively get some idea of how many of
us on the list are "regular lurkers".

2. *...The rules* are:

  * If you consider yourself a "regular lurker", consider opting
in to the game, by replying...
  * If you reply, absolutely nothing further will be asked of you.
All you are doing is identifying yourself as someone who
lurks. That's it.

3. ...We'll all track *the progress* by watching the thread, and
seeing how many reply over time.

4. ...Participation is *opt-in*.



To participate, just hit [Reply List] and enter "hey" and press
[Enter] ...or...

... (optionally) just say whatever you might want to say, instead

We have no idea what might happen next; let's see what develops.

Thanks!
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Re: [OSList] How do we define LURKER?

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Wikipedia has this:


In Internet culture, a lurker is typically a member of an online
community who observes, but does not actively participate.[1][2] The
exact definition depends on context. Lurkers make up a large
proportion of all users in online communities.[3] Lurking allows
users to learn the conventions of an online community before they
actively participate, improving their socialization when they
eventually de-lurk.[4] However, a lack of social contact while
lurking sometimes causes loneliness or apathy among lurkers.[5]

Lurkers are referred to using many names, including browsers,
read-only participants, non-public participants, legitimate
peripheral participants, or vicarious learners


The German wikipedia also cites a study


Einer Untersuchung von Christian Stegbauer und Alexander Rausch aus
dem Jahr 2000 zufolge stellen auf wissenschaftlichen Mailinglisten
Lurker immer die Mehrheit der Teilnehmer. Verharren Teilnehmer lange
in der Position als Lurker, wird die Wahrscheinlichkeit, dass sie
sich aktiv beteiligen, verschwindend gering.


which, in a nutshell, makes the point that if a lurker remains in a 
lurking mode for a long time the probability of "coming out" diminishes.


Perhaps Dan's game, which resulted in a good number of diverse responses 
so far, might have opened sufficient space for lurkers to come out of 
the shadow... of course, in live os events you see the butterflies and 
can just walk up to them, which does - I have experienced and heard - 
opens up bags full of surprises.


Greetings from Berlin
mmp

On 14.12.2014 23:15, ingrid ebeling ebus via OSList wrote:

I feel like an “active reader“ and like a lurker alternately. Ingrid


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Am 14.12.2014 um 20:59 schrieb Peggy Holman via OSList
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>:


I have played with the term "active readers" rather than lurkers.
Has a different tone.


The compulsive historian in me wants to mention that in November,
2009, a message called /Roll Call: Presen/t was sent by Erik
Fabian (who contributed about 15 messages from June to November of
that year.) He asked people just to respond with a “present”. While
he used the term lurkers, he included in a larger framing (below).

By his count, it brought 100+ responses, similar in tone to those
responding now. Ironically, Erik’s reflections on the roll call
(also below) was his last message to the list.


appreciatively, Peggy


ROLL CALL: PRESENT

On Nov 24, 2009, at 1:13 AM, Erik Fabian
mailto:e...@doublehappinessnyc.com>> wrote:

I was intrigued by Phelim's observation that the OSLIST, not
being a physical space, lacks the information that comes from
people sitting silent or choosing to leave.

I invite the many folks, the lurkers, the newbies, the old
hands, the folks with better things to do, anyone really...to
respond to this message with a "present" if you would like to be
noted as attending to this virtual space.

I know it won't solve the exiting problem but it might perhaps
give a sense of scale to the ratio of talkers to the silent.

Erik - present

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REFLECTING ON THE ROLL CALL


On Nov 29, 2009, at 2:01 PM, Erik Fabian
mailto:e...@doublehappinessnyc.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

1st thing: I don't mean to stop the Roll Call if folks would
still like to chime in. Feel welcome.

2nd: I was quite struck by the 100+ voices that have called
present so far in the Roll Call. Your responses reoriented my
sense of scale on this list and created a fascinating moment
where I didn't know what was going to happen next...I felt like
I watching a filibuster or something.

I was also struck by the sense of willingness to continue to be
present in this OSLIST conversation despite disagreements, other
options, shyness, busy lives, etc. That felt like some kind of
bedrock to me.

The momentum has slowed and the thread has mixed back into the
stream of multiple conversations on the list.  I have also
started to hear some reflection from Michael (here:
http://tinyurl.com/ygupaax) & Harold (here:
http://tinyurl.com/ykx3scs) and so it seems appropriate to put
out a broader invitation to reflect on the Roll Call.

I suppose I should say, I viewed the Roll Call responses in the
context of a couple weeks of debate about OS, where the online
OS community should find its home, differing values around online
 communication styles, and thoughts about OS and change.

Peggy asked an interesting question recently: How do the Open
Space principles help us both support and resist change and what
does that mean for the evolution of OST and opening space?
(http://tinyurl.com/yzg8nh9)

Re: [OSList] Open Space online community numbers

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Harold,

just checked the german language Yahoo Group "openspacedeutsch" which 
was started on January 23, 2002. It presently has 255 members. There 
were about 10 messages a month in 2014.
Here is the link which also opens up a table showing the monthly traffic 
for each of the 13 years it has been going

https://de.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/openspacedeutsch/info


Greetings from Berlin
mmp

On 16.12.2014 23:52, Harrison Owen via OSList wrote:

Thanks Harold! Numbers are always nice... and Spirit does rule! Which is
another way of saying, Whoever shows up are precisely the right people.
They always do. Thanks for everything!!

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*Sent:* Tuesday, December 16, 2014 5:47 PM
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*Subject:* [OSList] Open Space online community numbers

Here are the latest numbers of membership on the known Open Space online
community forums compared with the last time I looked in August.
Presented without commentary:

16 December 2014
 - 778(-9) people on OSList
 - 2211(+194) on FB
 - 1712(+70) on LinkedIn
 - 813(+12) people on Open Space World Ning community
 - 57(+8) people in the "Open Space" Google Plus Circle

11 August 2014
 - 787 people on OSList
 - 2017 people on Facebook Open Space Technology group -
https://www.facebook.com/groups/7189220743
 - 1642 people on LinkedIn Open Space Technology group -
https://www.linkedin.com/groups?home=&gid=81286
 - 801 people on Open Space World Ning community -
http://openspaceworld.ning.com/
 - 49 people in the "Open Space" Google Plus Circle -
https://plus.google.com/stream/circles/p70fe5c7a8a52f291

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Re: [OSList] First open space, advices needed :)

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

... its just the time they need to do a planning meeting for an ost 
event after January 10th

cheers
mmp

On 19.12.2014 12:47, Anne-Béatrice Duparc via OSList wrote:

Hi everyone,

I am asked for my first Open Space! By a group of parents who are
homeschooling their children and want to form as an association.
They already planned the meeting for the 10th of January. The duration
for the planned event is 3h30 and there will be a shared meal before it.
It really seems shortto me for an Open Space.

There will be around 40 adults and 30 children. The children will be
taken care of by some adults, but some of them may also take part to the
event. It would be great :)

We had no preparation meeting so on as I was just contacted but they
already sent me by email some of the subjects they would like to
discuss. Even if I know that in OST subjects are not planned in advance,
I share them with you as a way to determine if OST can be a good thing
for this group of people  :

  -  Aims and objectives of the non-profit we could create.
-  What are the resources we want to give ourselves (time, energy, money) ?
-  What are our resources for the long term?
-  How to build a sustainable association or group that does not depend
on one or two persons?
-  The creation and role a committee could have in the non profit
- Would we like to merge or collaborate with the Homeschool Association
of Switzerland?Pros, cons, how?
-  Next steps
-  Articles of the non-profit
- What is the aim of the non profit? Create activities? Support people
in their choice? To be known?

I have also understood that the situation is tense, because some cantons
in Switzerland are going towards forbiding Homeschooling.

As it would be my first Open Space, any advice is welcome. I am
especially wondering if Open Space is a first good step in that case and
what can be realistically achieved in 3h30 by a group of people that
mostly don't know each other and would like to have some consensual
concrete next steps at the end of the afternoon.

Any advice welcome, even if it is to say : please do something else :)

Thanks!

Béa
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[OSList] children in open space

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

... here is a picture that illustrates what Harrison reports about 
children in open space... this event had to do with the development of a 
public park along a river in the city of Oranienburg north of Berlin... 
one issue was the dirty river and how to clean it up for children to 
swim in it (again)...


good luck with your adventure, Anne-Beatrice
mmp

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[OSList] children in open space... more

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

... here you see children at the first Next Meeting after the open space 
in Oranienburg working on pushing forward a project on playgrounds on an 
island in the river (noticed the dazzled adult)...


mmp



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[OSList] Children in open space... more

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

... at the second Next Meeting you see two children talking to the 
Assistant Mayor of the city of Oranienburg (she herself being the mom of 
children about the same age) on the issue of cleaning up the river (the 
kids were angry for not anything having happended in the last two months)


mmp



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[OSList] children in open space... more

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

... same two children reporting to the whole group on their session 
during the second Next Meeting in Oranienburg


wishing you all a happy weekend

greetings from Berlin
mmp



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Re: [OSList] Review the invitation + latest technology for documentation of conversations + help?

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Leslie,

Jo Toepfer just returned from an os event he facilitated in Masar-e 
Scharif in Afghanistan for a large group of folks engaged in adult 
education and - as is part of the standard procedure at our Stammtische 
- he brought the documentation.
It was impressive. A state of the art template and handwritten reports. 
Easy, simple, adaptable, usable everywhere and completely sufficient for 
a documentation of what people feel they want to report on from their 
breakout sessions. Its a product for the moment - what follows, action 
steps, is different. They can also be handwritten but allow for 
structured information.
Those documents can be copied right at the place of the event and 
distributed, maybe with a table of content and a contact list with the 
data of the participants.

They can also be neatly packed into a pdf.
We have thousands of events in all kinds of situations for which this 
was always fine in the face of any kind of technology.


Here are the templates in english we used at the event in Sevilla in 
20006, they are the ones that are still being used.


Have a great time
mmp


On 24.12.2014 00:31, Leslie Zucker via OSList wrote:

Hi everyone,
Many happy holidays to all of you! It’s moments like this one in which
my appreciation for this community bubbles over!

I only open space about twice a year, and in the meantime, I fall out of
knowing the best practices and newest innovations. Please forgive me if
the answers to my questions are already nicely packaged somewhere and I
don’t know about it. Just point me in the right direction and I’ll be
very grateful.

I am opening space in Washington DC on January 22nd.  I have a few
questions that I’d love some guidance on.  All feedback and thoughts are
very welcome and appreciated.

*1. How’s this invitation? Any suggestions to make it a more
irresistible offer?  If you’d like to see the (not-yet-public) virtual
invitation, it’s here: *
http://www.eventbrite.com/e/space-for-dance-and-dancers-tickets-15038919814

A free, participatory dialogue about what matters to you - space for
dance and dancers!


And, because we know what else matters... free snacks
and drinks will be provided.



However you define "dance" (concert dance, social dance,
competitive dance, street dance, whatever!) and however
you define "space", (for living, dancing, rehearsing,
touring, hosting, traveling, whatever!) if you have
needs, wants, ideas about /space for dance and
dancers/ in the metro DC area, come talk about them!

The beginning (starting at 5:30 PM) is very important - don't miss
that part! It's when you will propose topics of interest to you that
others will join.
The spirit of this event is that you are either inspired and
learning or inspiring and contributing something interesting and
related to /space for dance and dancers/. If, at any time, that is
not true, then you are encouraged to change to a different
conversation where it is.   There are no "key-note speakers" or
other presentations, it's truly a chance for you to be in
conversations.  It's a highly participatory experience and you are
needed to make it work!
The results of this event will be supplied (as we collectively
produce our messages) to donors, studios, companies, presenters,
artists, and more.  Just a few of the places that will use the
results of this event for future planning include: DC Commission on
Arts and Humanities, Artomatic, Cultural DC, Dance Metro DC, Center
for the Creative Economy, ReCreative Spaces.
Organized and facilitated by Leslie Zucker, Trainer, Facilitator and
Life Coach for Life's Dancers
+1 (202) 425 7637 les...@lesliezucker.com
 www.lesliezucker.com



*2.  What is the newest, best way to document the conversations?  Is
there a reliable smart phone app? Is there a website that allows anyone
to contribute?  I’d like the “newsroom” concept to be very 2015! *
*
*
*3. Are there any Open Spacers in the DC area who would like to attend,
support me at the event and/or promote this event to their networks in
the area? *
*
*

Many thanks, in advance. I appreciate this community so much!


Create Your Life From Your Core! Join us for a half-day workshop on
January 10 or 24, 2015. Click here for more details.



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Re: [OSList] Need OS facilitator in Charlotte, NC Jan 16th

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Joe,

if you go to

http://www.openspaceworldmap.org/


and click on SEARCH at the bottom of the map and enter "North Carolina" 
you will see four fully agile os-facilitators not far from Charlotte 
with contact data, websites etc.


Have a great event on the 16th!

Greetings from Berlin
mmp

On 05.01.2015 15:44, Joseph Little via OSList wrote:

Hi,

We are having a Lean Agile Open event in Charlotte Jan 16th.

Can you recommend a good OS facilitator?

Not sure what we can pay.  It is a non-profit event, hosted by Agile
Carolinas.  But we can pay something, for sure.

We need someone who is a bit sympatico with a Charlotte culture, which
is perhaps too dominated by the banks. It is a culture that in my
opinion is not yet familiar with OS.  (Some of us are, and love it, but
we expect many attendees will be newbies to OS.)

The event is a public event, an 'unconference' for Lean and Agile
topics, probably more Agile.  For those who may be interested, we will
also be discussing (well, I intend to) Open Agile Adoption.

Otherwise, as a public event, I expect this to be a normal easy OS
event.  Nothing special or hard.

Any suggestions for OS Facilitator?  (You can contact me offline at
jhlit...@kittyhawkconsulting.com)

Thanks!  Joe


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Re: [OSList] Delegating Open Space Facilitation

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Martin and all you others,

most of the multiple day os events I have been involved in start with a 
"regular" introduction on Day 1 (the other "type" is presented further 
down).


No repetition of the introductions on the following days.
(Once the os has started the "system" will invariable take care of 
people that were not present during the introduction. My take on this 
is, that leadership begins to spread already during the introduction. 
The first window for that is provided through the part of the 
introduction often called "focusing the group". This has nothing to do 
with the facilitator focusing on the group but making an intervention 
very early in the introduction for the participants to focus on each 
other. To repeat the introduction simply cancels that effect, it takes 
away space for the manifestation of selforganisation.)


Also, from the very beginning the full "schedule" of times and places 
for break out sessions for Day 1 and 2 is shown on the Bulletin Board 
(this increases transparency, shows the whole range of opportunities, 
allows for folks inclined that way to strategically post their issues...)


In the introduction I point out that there will be additional 
opportunities to post issues: Anytime during the event, in the evening 
news of Day 1 and in the morning announcements of Day 2. (Whether this 
slows down or speeds up the process of posting is a mystery and probably 
of no importance... folks will post whenever its the right time for 
them. Chances to adapt the structure to this "fact of life" should not 
be missed... it seems the result is a more relaxed crowd.)


There is also a rough overview of the entire event, including Day 3 with 
Action Planning, Closing Circle. And for each day a more detailed 
overview of that particular day is pointed to during morning 
announcements. (For my "professional" career as a full time 
os-facilitator it was useful to change the times right on the poster as 
they varied from the "planned" time using a marker with a different 
color... in processing the event afterwards it provided continuous data 
on variations that often could be matched to the size of the group, 
distances to walk to various parts of the venue, etc... and also allowed 
assumptions on the observation that deviations increased as the event 
went on...)


Now, a different animal are multiple day os events with an "input" every 
morning and perhaps no action planning in the traditional sense on Day 
3. These events (Practice of Peace Program, or the New York gathering, 
or the Wave Rider event) have an overall theme. However, the inputs in 
the morning, so is my experience, do "generate" issues also in response 
to the input. Now, when you have a new input on Day 2, etc. that input 
has an impact on the issues offered on Day 2 and following days.
This does not necessarily make a new "introduction" necessary but for 
various reasons it is done and as reported and experienced it works and 
is good. This might be, because the "input" is an intervention that in a 
way takes folks out of the os-mindset. Having a "new" introduction is 
like a "reminder" that the event continues in the os format.


It also seems that in the first mentioned design, roles appear to be 
more clearly defined: there is a client, a planning team, a business or 
an NGO or some other kind of more or less "defined" organisation, 
facilitation is paid for, etc.


The "input" design seems to be something for our gatherings, bent a bit 
more on experimenting, playing, paying attention to both content and 
form, and the procedure. However, WOSonOSes that I have been too dont 
follow the "input" design.


I gather that paying attention to another principle - "form follows 
function" - might be a key on deciding on which way to go... keeping in 
mind that it is rarely "either/or"... but more 
"either/either/either...or/or/or...".


Have a great weekend
greetings from Berlin
mmp

PS:Quite a bit of what I wrote about is visualised (actual photos of 
actual manisfestations) in the about 100 pictures in "Meine open space 
Praxis" (text is German) both as hard copy:

http://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Meine-open-space-Praxis


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3.01.2015 17:45, Martin Roell via OSList wrote:

Harrison Owen via OSList wrote:

Facilitators taking up
un-needed space/time defeats the purpose. I think.


"Hello, and welcome to the third-day of this Open Space. Facilitator A
who had spoken on day 1 has given the responsibility to open the space
to me: let me introduce myself: I am Facilitator C from X in Z. It is a
great honor to be opening space for you today, after Facilitator A has
already delegated so nicely to Facilitator B yesterday, and didn't he do
a marvellous job? Thank you B, for opening space yesterday, and thank
you A for having delegated this important responsibility! And thank you
all for showing up today, after all, it is _you_ who thi

Re: [OSList] Anticipating number of topics/sessions...

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Susan,

yes, thats my feeling too, 15 to 20 breakout spaces for 30 to 40 issues.

Jeffs response on "combining or abandoning" topics got me to reflect on 
the word "topic". From work wayback with structured brainstorming I 
remember a group of 25 "generating" between 30 to 50 topics.


With os crowds and my use of the word "issue" (with talking a bit about 
what is meant with "issue" in contrast to "topic or idea or something I 
am interested in", mentioning passion, urgency etc.) I find that there 
was decreasing tendency of combining or abolishing. Actually, when 
someone suggested to combine issues I would suggest in a very low-key 
way that this was not illegal and add something like: What might look 
and sound very similar often turns out to be different in an important way.


As a participant I have become 	quite uncomfortable, irritated or even 
foaming when I had a facilitator go to the Bulleting Board and "cluster" 
stuff... turning into a space invador. My reaction, I suppose, got me to 
be cautious with "combining".


How is your take on the impact of the "words" we use?


Cheers and good luck with a very short event!

mmp

On 26.01.2015 22:59, Susan Partnow via OSList wrote:

Hello dear OSers... I am planning a very short OS here in Seattle at the
WOW (Women of Wisdom) conference - Sunday afternoon, Feb 15 - and trying
to call the rule of thumb for anticipating the likely number of sessions
to plan for - We have two brief OS times and expect ~100 participants.
Any educated guesses as we plan for delineating break out spaces? Thanks!

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Re: [OSList] Combining sessions - a slight change of title

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

 weeks ago with a local bank I appreciate
for your thoughts In a couple of recent events - with the "issues
and opportunities" in the title and the invitation to raise any
issues or topics the participants feel strongly about - I have found
myself (well, with assistance) almost 'forced'
to combine as mathematically there were just too many!
With three sessions available and some 70 people we were well above
the 60 odd issues20 plus breakout groups per session?

I know, I know - stand back and let them sort it out...but with
'new' groups and a day what have others done?
My fear is allocating every single topic a breakout space and 20+
groups per session the fragmented nature would mean limited results

I know, I know - stand back and trust the system.
I am trying (I totally do trust the system which is what I love
about it) but it's hard

And I really would welcome anybody's thoughts - what do I do next time?

Best regards from a hot and steamy Malaysia

Nigel

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Behalf Of Michael M Pannwitz via OSList
Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2015 6:55 PM
To: Susan Partnow; World wide Open Space Technology email list
Subject: Re: [OSList] Anticipating number of topics/sessions...

Dear Susan,

yes, thats my feeling too, 15 to 20 breakout spaces for 30 to 40 issues.

Jeffs response on "combining or abandoning" topics got me to reflect
on the word "topic". From work wayback with structured brainstorming
I remember a group of 25 "generating" between 30 to 50 topics.

With os crowds and my use of the word "issue" (with talking a bit
about what is meant with "issue" in contrast to "topic or idea or
something I am interested in", mentioning passion, urgency etc.) I
find that there was decreasing tendency of combining or abolishing.
Actually, when someone suggested to combine issues I would suggest
in a very low-key way that this was not illegal and add something
like: What might look and sound very similar often turns out to be

different in an important way.


As a participant I have becomequite uncomfortable, irritated or even



foaming when I had a facilitator go to the Bulleting Board and "cluster"



stuff... turning into a space invador. My reaction, I suppose, got
me to be cautious with "combining".

How is your take on the impact of the "words" we use?


Cheers and good luck with a very short event!

mmp


On 26.01.2015 22:59, Susan Partnow via OSList wrote:
Hello dear OSers... I am planning a very short OS here in Seattle
at the WOW (Women of Wisdom) conference - Sunday afternoon, Feb 15
- and trying to call the rule of thumb for anticipating the likely
number of sessions to plan for - We have two brief OS times and expect

~100 participants.

Any educated guesses as we plan for delineating break out spaces?

Thanks!


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Re: [OSList] Combining sessions - a slight change of title

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

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 >>> Michael M Pannwitz via OSList
 >>> Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2015 6:55 PM
 >>> To: Susan Partnow; World wide Open Space Technology email list
 >>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Anticipating number of topics/sessions...
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 >>> Dear Susan,
 >>>
 >>> yes, thats my feeling too, 15 to 20 breakout spaces for 30
to 40 issues.
 >>>
 >>> Jeffs response on "combining or abandoning" topics got me
to reflect on
 >>> the word "topic". From work wayback with structured
brainstorming I
 >>> remember a group of 25 "generating" between 30 to 50 topics.
 >>>
 >>> With os crowds and my use of the word "issue" (with talking
a bit about
 >>> what is meant with "issue" in contrast to "topic or idea or
something I
 >>> am interested in", mentioning passion, urgency etc.) I find
that there
 >>> was decreasing tendency of combining or abolishing.
Actually, when
 >>> someone suggested to combine issues I would suggest in a
very low-key
 >>> way that this was not illegal and add something like: What
might look
 >>> and sound very similar often turns out to be different in
an important way.
 >>>
 >>> As a participant I have becomequite uncomfortable,
irritated or even
 >>> foaming when I had a facilitator go to the Bulleting Board
and "cluster"
 >>> stuff... turning into a space invador. My reaction, I
suppose, got me to
 >>> be cautious with "combining".
 >>>
 >>> How is your take on the impact of the "words" we use?
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> Cheers and good luck with a very short event!
 >>>
 >>> mmp
 >>>
 >>>> On 26.01.2015 22:59, Susan Partnow via OSList wrote:
 >>>> Hello dear OSers... I am planning a very short OS here in
Seattle at the
 >>>> WOW (Women of Wisdom) conference - Sunday afternoon, Feb
15 - and trying
 >>>> to call the rule of thumb for anticipating the likely
number of sessions
 >>>> to plan for - We have two 

Re: [OSList] And a little child...

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Diane,

T's story made my day, goosebumps and all!

Greetings from Berlin
mmp

On 16.02.2015 22:54, Diana Larsen via OSList wrote:

Hi all,

Last week, we held the 7th annual Agile Open Northwest conference in
Portland Oregon.

*The Facts: *
*/Theme:/* Agile Vision for Agile Practitioners
*/Duration: /*2.5+ days (+ represents holding the closing activities
after lunch on the third day)
*/Registration: /*246 people registered including organizers,
volunteers, sponsor representatives, attendees, etc.
*/Circle Set-up:/* 3 concentric rows (inner 60, middle 70, outer 80)
about 60-70 ft (~ 20 m) in diameter
*/Attending:/* ~190 people sat in Opening Circle, others drifted in (or
out) over the course of the event, only a dozen badges had not been
claimed by the end of the conference.
*/Marketplace: /*We posted sessions one day at a time over the three days.
*/Session times:/* 16 over three days - 6 on Day 1, 7 on Day 2, 3 on Day 3
*/Sessions possible:/* 208 + more outside pre-arranged times or spaces
*/Sessions held:/* ~140
*/Session spaces: /*13 (9-11 were filled during any one session time,
fewer in the evenings and early morning)
*Session length:* 60 minutes + 10 minutes to move between sessions
*/Location:/* http://leftbankannex.com Converted aeronautic
machined-parts manufacturing shop, 14,000 sq ft on  two floors with a
mezzanine. Lots of concrete, metal, windows, and vast empty space
repurposed for events. Very industrial chic and highly configurable. The
event coming in the day after ours was a huge Bar Mitzvah.
*/Experiments: /*We tried it with a “crew” of OS facilitators, so
everyone could attend sessions, secure in the knowledge that someone(s)
somewhere was attending to the space holding needs. It mostly worked,
there are a few aspects of this I’d change. Harold Shinsato was one of
the crew members. He may have more to say (or not).
*/My role:/* Organizer of the OS crew, participant, bumblebee,
butterfly, board member.

*The best part: *
On the last day, I brought my 4-year-old grand-daughter, T. She had been
on the exploratory visit last fall when the co-chairs chose the
facility, and I thought she’d like to see it all decked out for the
event. Also, her Mom needed time to do a few things that are made
difficult with a 4 y/o in tow. I feel blessed that I knew bringing her
wouldn’t cause a moment’s concern to any of the other board members,
chairs, or organizers. What a great community!

T was interested and a little overwhelmed. I’m not sure she’s ever been
with such a large group before. She spent most of the day shyly curious
and quietly observing, getting her bearings. The buffet breakfast was a
treat for he, so the day started well. She sat intent through "morning
announcements” as member of the OS crew welcomed everyone to the third
day and facilitated additions to the marketplace. She attended three
sessions and butterflied during the two session times before lunch.

She was fascinated by the lunch break with many tables of 8 people
locked in deep discussions. “What are those people doing?”  We explained
the delight of being able to talk about something you care about with
other people who care as deeply…people that you might not otherwise see
often. T considered this for a moment, then nodded her affirmation.

We moved to the closing. She and i found chairs in the circle, as a
facilitator started it off, asking about sessions attended, giving
participants time to announce actions going forward, etc. Toward the
end, I asked her father to come sit with her. I needed to move into a
different place in the circle to receive the microphone and close the
conference space.

I had been sitting in my new seat only a few minutes and my colleague
was still facilitating the harvest, when, spontaneously, T began running
around the outside of the circle, defining the space, inadvertently
causing those who were standing outside to move closer into the circle.
Her shoes hit the floor creating a rhythmic tattoo and an energetic
boundary around the community. She made 5 or so circuits. I sat in awe ,
feeling my eyes moisten and goosebumps rise on my skin. Then, it was
time for me to take the microphone.

Walking into the circle, as I accepted the mic and began to say a few
words, I felt her small hand slip lightly  into mine. Each person said
their short, last comment and I invited them to stand and look around,
to see who remained and remember those who had to leave earlier. She
continued to walk the circle with me. Together we invited everyone to
turn around and step out into their futures, closing the conference

Completely unprompted, from her own instinct, she provided the perfect
reminder that all we do contributes to the world of future generations.
She was totally present and, in her way, invisible, as she held space
for the very first time.

 From a very fortunate Grandma,
Diana



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Re: [OSList] OST and paying attendance fees

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Jen,

I remember one os-event I facilitated where the sponsor paid a fee to 8 
"experts" with the idea that they would post workshops or whatever 
during the market place. This was a 1,5 day event with the experts in 
attendence for the whole time (some 70+ youths from 30+ European 
Countries on the future of participation).
As posting issues was well on its way the sponsor came to me (as is my 
habit during the market phase I was not sitting in the circle but 
standing outside of it trying to be invisible) and whispered "Michael, 
you got to do something, the experts are not offering anything" my 
response was something like "Thats ok, just wait".
Well, they in fact never did offer anything but were very active during 
the entire event... joining the the issue-groups that interested them, 
contributing, I suppose, their "expertise" (just like everyone else, of 
course).
On the evening of the first day some of the experts talked to this 
saying they were fascinated by the issues that were offered and simply 
did not offer the workshops they had prepared.


The others in attendance did not mind paid experts being in attendance 
having experienced worse things at gatherings like this ... and worked 
peacefully with them.


After that event I facilitated many others where sponors had planned to 
have key note speaker, experts and other important input... and told 
them this story. They always dropped this stuff, still inviting folks 
they considered experts but without a fee in a way going along with the 
notions that all that are invited and come are experts. And sometimes I 
suggested they get the information or inputs they felt everyone should 
have printed and circulated ahead of the event... so folks could decide 
whether to read it or not and not be forced to sit through stuff at the 
os-event that reduced their time to work on their issues.


One way out of your dilemma (offering a fee at odds with open space and 
still wanting experts for the benefit of the students) is to have the 
planning group for your masterclass which could be composed of you, of 
course, and a cross-section of who you want to invite (students, other 
staff, experts, researchers, folks from other fields of study, people 
who provide the funding,...) discuss how to attract all that the group 
feels should attend to have a grand os-event (high diversity)


Have a great masterclass
Greetings from Berlin
mmp

On 18.02.2015 22:16, Jenifer Toksvig via OSList wrote:

Dear all,

What are your thoughts on paying fees to attract high-profile attendees
to an open space event?

Has anyone done it?

Is there an impact on that person’s ability to engage with open space
once they’re in the room?

Is there an impact on the ability of non-paid attendees, if they know
that some have been paid a fee to be in the room? Does it make a
difference if the person who was paid a fee is high-profile within that
community?

I think I will have some funding that is supposed to pay for
masterclasses on a course I’ll be teaching this fall.

I’d prefer not to mark out a select few as ‘masters’, but instead offer
a broad invitation to all who are experienced in the field, and hold
regular open space events that they could attend alongside the students.

Offering a fee to be in the room seems at odds with open space to me,
but on the other hand, I do want to put the students in contact with
those who have experience and could mentor, or act as elders, or just be
momentary guides or sounding boards.

Open space seems perfect to me as a way to let the students and the
guests decide how they want to interact, but I do need to get people
into the room in the first place.

Thoughts on fee-paying as a way to do that?

Many thanks :-)

Jen x

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Re: [OSList] workshop: Why I'm no longer promoting participative meetings

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Raffi,

I also shifted my focus a while back, in 1996 after decades of 
OD-consulting, away from meetings where I "created" time and space for 
this and that, especially also "participation" to
stepping back so that the selforganisationforce can more freely unfold 
itself.

Its called Open Space or Open Space Technology.

When I see offerings such as you received I wonder why anyone would want 
to work so hard and why folks are so ready to ignore:

Never delude yourself into thinking you are in control.
(page 128, The Practice of Peace, Harrison Owen).

Next time we meet in San Diego lets have a chat and a glass of wine
if you come to Berlin, its Beer, of course.

The next "very official" opportunity is at the Berlin Stammtisch on 
March 2 (all you others reading this, you are invited to join us!)


Have a great day
mmp

On 25.02.2015 06:56, Raffi Aftandelian via OSList wrote:

friends,
this online workshop may be of interest!

an intriguing reframing!

raffi



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Dear Raffi,
I used to promote highly participatory meetings. As you read this
invitation, you will discover that I have shifted my perspective.

First, a little background to why I promoted highly participative meetings.
I am not willing to be in meetings that are time wasters and yet I am
willing to be in meetings that take a long time.

What is the difference?

Meetings that I consider to be time wasters are meetings in which I sit
and listen to a presentation with no opportunity for conversation. Time
waster meetings, in my opinion, are the kind of meetings in which I
conclude that the presenter could just have sent a memo. I end up
wondering why it was necessary to have a meeting and waste the time of
all of the participants.

Have you had similar experiences?

The meetings that I am willing to attend, and even like attending, are
meetings designed with the participants in mind, to accomplish a
business or development goal. They have one characteristic in common.
The facilitator creates the time and space for lots of participation.

There is value to the participant in such a meeting…the value of idea
generation, idea discussion, innovation, solution generation, and of
course the opportunity to feel heard where it matters. Some of my
favorite highly participative meeting processes are Open Space
Technology, Whole Person Process Facilitation, Dynamic Facilitation,
World Café, and Appreciative Inquiry. In our Genuine Contact program, we
teach two of these meeting methods.

So, why I have I said my perspective has shifted?

I continue to promote highly participatory meetings. And, in looking
more deeply, I realize that there is so much more to the successful
experience and outcomes of these kinds of meetings that goes beyond
simply being ‘highly participatory’.

When we invite people into these meetings, we are inviting them, for a
period of time, to engage in leadership. We ask them to engage in
leadership for their ideas, for taking a stand, and for taking
leadership to express themselves. And they do.

And so my perspective has shifted away from thinking of these meetings
just as participatory meetings.

I now recognize them as meetings to engage leadership.

If I think of participation as the goal, I now recognize that I do a
disservice to the full dynamic that is taking place. People are not
being invited to a participatory meeting. They are invited to engage in
leadership….even if only for a short period of time.


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Re: [OSList] OST Conferences 2015

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Gibson,

the annual World Open Space on Open Space WOSonOS) will be in Poland 
(Krakow) this year, September 10 to 13 (right in the midst of your 
registration work?).
In addition to the location and the time I also know that Karolina Iwa 
with associates will play a role in convening this event, so I am ccing 
her to place you on her list of folks to be invited.

I am planning to be there and would enjoy meeting you.

Another gathering I know will take place is in Iceland, its the 7th or 
so NOSonOS for countries of the North but they could definitely benefit 
from Ghanian input. The folks involved in this are Kari Gunnarsson and 
Thomas Herrmann, I will cc them, too... the NOSonOS event will have 
activities such as trainings and even a trip into the wilds, I think, 
all this will happen between June 8 and 14 this year.


You can see Karolina, Kari and Thoms in the Open Space World Map

http://www.openspaceworldmap.org/

and have a peek at their websites with more information.

So far, there is no one from Ghana who has included himself in the World 
Map (feel invited to do so) but Colins Imoh from Nigeria and Jost Wagner 
from Thailand have worked there (according to the information in their 
World Map listings).


I have been involved with the WOSonOSes since 1997 and we had the 
WOSonOS in Berlin in 2000, 2010 (and will have it again in 2020, of 
course)... at every WOSonOS I have attended people have mentioned the 
wish to have the WOSonOS also in Africa. Has not happened yet but it is 
a sure fire way to get all the people to visit you if you would have it 
in Ghana!


Have a great weekend in Ghany
greetings from Berlin
mmp


On 28.02.2015 12:51, Gibson ANNOR-ANTWI via OSList wrote:

What are the conferences slated for this year? Please send simple
guidelines to registering.

Thanks.

GIBSON


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Re: [OSList] OST Conferences 2015

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Gibson,
just received a note from Gerardo de Luzenberger in Milan, Italy about 
his "corsi" he is offering this year, among them also an OST Training in 
October, here is the direct link

http://www.scuolafacilitazione.it/corso.php?do0=goto&parm0=a%3A1%3A{i%3A0%3Bs%3A1%3A%221%22%3B}


Yes, its probably in Italian which might be just fine for you.

He and a number of others I know here in Europe and beyond would 
probably not hesitate to run a training in Ghana... some have done that 
in other African countries.


Have a great day in Ghana
Greetings from Berlin
mmp

On 28.02.2015 12:51, Gibson ANNOR-ANTWI via OSList wrote:

What are the conferences slated for this year? Please send simple
guidelines to registering.

Thanks.

GIBSON


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Re: [OSList] Discount to Methods for Strategic Collaboration, Phoenix, AZ, April 2015

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Christine and Fritz,

when in you are Berlin in June I offer to convene an extraordinary 
Stammtisch for os-workers in Berlin and folks gathering for the 
Collaboration stuff you are putting on.

Just tell me a date the both of you would feel suits you and off we are.
In June our hangout for 10 years now has plenty of space also in the 
front of the restaurant. Usual starting time is 7pm and everyone comes 
and goes according to their schedule...


Cheers
mmp

On 03.03.2015 04:11, Christine Whitney Sanchez via OSList wrote:

oops - I forgot to mention that any member of the OST list will receive
20% off the registration fee.  Just let me know if you are interested.

Namasté,

Christine

Christine Whitney Sanchez, M.C.
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Dear Open Space Friends,

Please spread the word to anyone (including you) who might be interested
in the Phoenix Methods for Strategic Collaboration
 Foundations Training.  Since
2003, it’s been a very generative and fun workshop.

This is the only 2015 opportunity in the US.  If you can’t make this
one, you might take a look at Fritz Walter’s website
 - we are
offering Methods for Strategic Collaboration June 8-11 in Berlin.

Warm wishes from the rain-cleansed desert,

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[OSList] Fwd: Fwd: Venues-London

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Carmel,

you can get a more direct connection to os-workers in London by opening 
the Open Space World Map

http://www.openspaceworldmap.org/


and entering "London" in the search field within the MENU (upper right 
hand corner right next to the name of the Map).


You will see about a dozen colleague, all with considerable practical 
experience with OST in London.


You are invited to include yourself in the MAP, too.

Greetings from Berlin
mmp

PS: I participated in an Open Space Learning Exchange (also called Open 
Space on Open Space or OSonOS) a good number of years ago  in a lovely 
space right next to the tube station where Colin Morley was killed in 
the London bombing in 2005... but I think the space is too small for 
what you have in mind. It was the   NATFHE Conference Centre, 27 
Britannia Street, London, 5 minute walk from King's Cross tube.



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Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2018 Hope to meet you there

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Tonnie,

the event in Iceland is already on a good journey with your group 
expanding the diversity of participants, one of the preconditions for 
the force of selforganisation to unfold more freely, among other things.


Greetings from Berlin
mmp

Am 19.06.2018 um 10:02 schrieb Tonnie van der Zouwen via OSList:

Dear Kari, dear colleagues OST facilitators,

Thank you for organizing this event Kari. I will be there and bring in a 
team of 6 students,  a teacher and a dean of our University. Their 
question is how they can work with Open Space principles in their HR\ 
program at Avans University of Applied Sciences and develop new forms of 
leadership. I think they can learn a lot from you (and we from them, as 
I experienced last year at the COS Conference ‘What do you do when you 
don’t know what to do). So I hope to meet you all at the WOSonOS.


Looking forward seeing you in October!

Tonnie van der Zouwen

Dr. Tonnie van der Zouwen MCM |Professor Sustainable Working and 
Organising | Centre of Expertise Sustainable Business | Avans University 
of Applied Sciences | +31 6 10 13 70 18 |Postbus 90.116 | 4800 RA Breda, 
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*Verzonden:* maandag 11 juni 2018 22:08
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*CC:* Kári Gunnarsson
*Onderwerp:* [OSList] WOSonOS 2018 Registration

Dear OST-community,

WOSonOS 2018 Bridging the Divide: How are we meeting the challenges of a 
changing world?


Place & Date: Reykjvík Iceland, October 22-24

Please head over to the registration page to read more and sign up: 
https://events.artegis.com/event/WOSonOS_2018


We reserved a few hotel rooms in a hotel nearby and these are available 
on the registration site, but many of us are renting an Airbnb or 
staying in other accommodations close by.


Gamla-Bíó is our venue: https://goo.gl/maps/dDPdoV2jcZE2 ... The 
original plan was to have the event in Harpa, looking at the price led 
to the idea of moving the event to the close-by Gamla-Bíó. I am 
particularly happy that we manage to do that and lower the registration 
fee in the process.


The local currency is ISK (Icelandic Króna), you will get about 105 ISK 
for each USD $ dollar, or about 125 ISK for each € Euro.


The flight time to here from New York is about 6 hours, and from London 
it is about 3 hours. Flights to Iceland are cheap.


With best regards,

The Wosonos 2018 Team



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Re: [OSList] Challenging times (Wosonos)

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Kári,

good to hear from you and your recovery!
What diet led to to the change?

WOSonOS 2018 in Reykjavik will be productive and fun, no doubt.
How do I know? Ok, whoever comes is the right people.
"Right" in this context means that only those with passion and urge to 
act will show up, voluntarily, to deal with what has heart and meaning 
for them around Open Space. This may sound like a mantra and it is and 
it is what I experienced every time I was in an OST event... in all 
WOSonOS I took part in, European Learning Exchanges, even in the 
Stammtische we have regularily in Berlin (such as the one two days ago 
with visitors from Ukraine and Netherlands and Berliners, of 
course)tc not to mention OST events ouside of gatherings about our 
approach.


And it is not a question of how many come. At least that is what I 
experienced as the one and only person who signed up last fall for the 
European Learning Exchange in Keflavik in your country. Together with 
you and the co-host Hróbjartur Árnason we were three participants and it 
became one of my most memorable events. Yes, the outlandishly good food 
we had in fine village pubs was an important ingredient and then that 
what always happened and at that occasion abundantly: laughter and play 
and other deep stuff...


Greetings from Berlin and enjoy your hike in the mountains
mmp

Am 22.06.2018 um 12:09 schrieb Kári Gunnarsson via OSList:

  Hi Oslist

  I am exited about the Wosonos 2018 in Reykjavík this October (22. - 24.)

  My aspiration for this event is that we can, together, with our 
difference in practice, look towards the future and make what we have to 
offer better availability to tows that are looking. There are 
challenging times ahead for many people and organizations and I 
understand that the need for ways of peace and prosperity are urgently felt.


  So, what do you say?
  Are you ready to register?

  with best regards
  Kári

  p.s.
  I have been dealing with a health problem for a few months, but I 
recovered two weeks ago by changed diet.


  I am now going on a hike in the mountains for a week and might not be 
reachable while I am there.
  Feel free to contact Hjördís is on our support team in Iceland Travel 
are taking care of the registration and food at the venue and will help 
with hotels and suchlike. her email is conferen...@icelandtravel.is 



  The registration page is here: 
https://events.artegis.com/event/WOSonOS_2018


*Kári Gunnarsson






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Re: [OSList] Papers and writing about opening space

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Harrison,

I suspect that "academic" approaches of the established kind are very 
weak for really complex stuff such as for instance "selforganisation" 
which was discovered early in our experimental journey to be the 
essential ingredient in the Open Space Technology approach.


In other words, commonly used scientific exploration which is then 
visible in the "academic literature" has a hard time to get to the core. 
That might also result in the incoherent phenomenon of having many 
millions of people all over the world exposed to "OST" and thousands of 
facilitators working with this approach for decades with unusual results 
AND talking about their EXPERIENCES but not "analysing" or "researching" 
it with tools they know but are ineffective.


Of course, this will not discourage our quest for getting an 
understanding... working with it, though, and seeing productive outcomes 
appears to be sufficient for our praxis. I say that in the face of what 
I also believe "there is no better thing for good praxis than a good 
theory" (this is a short form of what Kurt Lewin had to say on this 
subject). So I love folks like Karl who are on the quest!


Looking at the German wikipedia for "self-organisation" I saw this note:

---"They arise predominantly through processes of spontaneous 
self-organization and are usually inaccessible to a theory based on 
known mathematical functions."---


which is embedded in this longer piece that also refers to the work of 
the Santa Fe folks


---"Theory of complex systems

The latest flow is the theory of complex systems. A complex system is a 
system whose properties can not be completely explained by the 
properties of the components of the system. Complex systems consist of a 
multitude of interconnected and interacting parts, entities, or agents.


Complex systems are widespread, indeed almost dominant, from the world 
of elementary particles right up to human society. [2] They arise 
predominantly through processes of spontaneous self-organization and are 
usually inaccessible to a theory based on known mathematical functions. 
Examples are the formation of atomic nuclei, the atoms, the 
transformation of substances from one state of aggregation into another, 
crystallization, chemical reactions, evolution, mental processes in the 
brain, the development of social systems, etc. In open nature, open 
systems are dominant In the inanimate nature, complex systems usually 
form spontaneously with the release of energy or in thermal equilibrium.


The theory of complex adaptive systems is based primarily on the work of 
the Santa Fe Institute. This new complexity theory, which describes 
emergence, adaptation and self-organization, is based on agents and 
computer simulations that include multi-agent systems (MAS), which have 
become an important tool in the exploration of social and complex 
systems."---


Wishing us all a grand weekend
Greetings from Berlin where I will pick the first blackberries of this 
season in our garden, a marvel of selforganisation, those berries

mmp







Am 07.07.2018 um 13:37 schrieb Harrison Owen via OSList:
Karl – there is very little in the academic literature for reasons I’ve 
always found interesting and odd… but predictable. However, the 
International Press has covered it extensively and if you will accept a 
rather biased source, I have a number of books on the subject. 5 remain 
in print and are published by Berrett-Koehler. There are also a number 
of others, now out of print, but available online at 
www.openspaceworld.com  along with s 
number of occasional papers.  You might find my first book, “Spirit: 
Transformation and Development in Organizations” interesting. It is not 
about Open Space per se but represents the basic framework out of which 
it grew. It is also the first time I used the words “open space.” Good 
luck – and I’d love to see where you go.


Harrison

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*From:*OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf 
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*Sent:* Wednesday, July 4, 2018 8:57 AM
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*Subject:* [OSList] Papers and writing about opening space

Dear Colleagues,

I am in the process of writing a PHD by publication and have become 
interested in the conceptual basis of opening space/holding space and 
closing space. I am also interested in the concept of self structuring 
  of open space (contentious I know) and pattern recognition as people 
participate in open space.


Does anyone know of any literature around these themes.. or equally, any 
thoughts?


Just a thought.

Many thanks in advance

Karl

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Re: [OSList] Lisa Heft?

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Harrison,

I opened up her profile on the Open Space World Map, dialed her number 
and we talked a bit > http://www.openspaceworldmap.org/worker/lisa-heft


Seems she is not travelling much any more, just like me but alive and 
kicking.


Have a great day in your summer office
hugs
mmp


Am 09.07.2018 um 13:29 schrieb Harrison Owen via OSList:

Has anybody seen or heard from Lisa Heft?

Harrison

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Re: [OSList] Is there experience in developing Open Space further in organizations and networks after the initial intervention

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Kari,

probably, there are loads of such experiences.
One of them that found its way into "literature" you can see here

https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Practicing-Open-Space-Our-First-Ten-Years-E-Book


(it was first published as Chapter 5 in "Meine open space Praxis" and 
then as a stand-alone; its a short paper and in I think 5 languages)


Several of the participants have been parts of regional, european and 
worldwide OSonOSes. In fact, there were several events focusing 
especially on this experience. They were called "International 
gatherings on InterActived Organisations" that took place in Krakow 
(2002), Budapest (2005) and Istanbul (2006).


I am sending you a seperate email with the invitation to the Istanbul 
event attached.


greetings from Berlin
mmp


Am 06.08.2018 um 14:06 schrieb Kári Gunnarsson via OSList:

Hi my dear open space family

I wonder if there is experience in developing Open Space further in 
organizations and networks after the initial intervention and how we 
could, each of us, go about inviting this experience to participating in 
the next and future Wosonos events.


Who are the people that want to explor how to develop the OST approach 
further in their organizations and networks? I think we usually call 
them sponsors!


With love
Kári




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Re: [OSList] Greetings from OST training in Gävle, Sweden

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Lieber Thomas,

super!

Ich werde andauernd gefragt, wer denn so nach Island fährt. Jetzt lege 
ich selbst eine Liste an.

Wer kommt denn noch aus Schweden oder aus Deinem sonstigen Umkreis?

Herzliche Grüße aus Berlin
mmp

Am 24.09.2018 um 22:26 schrieb Thomas Herrmann via OSList:

Dear friends in Open Space and Genuine Contact (X-posted to both lists)

Sending a greeting after the first day of three in our training Working 
with Open Space Technology, here in Gävle Sweden. Very excited 
participants after having learnt basics about OST, experienced an OSonOS 
and reflected on the different roles in OST meetings. Before closing we 
also looked at the components of an OST meeting and started to reflect 
on what components they will include, because tomorrow they will have 
time to practice opening space. We will then look at convergence, the 
essence, pre-work and follow-up before we co-create the theme for the 
OST some of them will facilitate day 3.


Looking forward and happy to have so many stories to share from what I 
learnt with you all, not the least Harrison Owen. You are always present 
in my trainings and so are you Birgitt Williams, as I am teaching OST 
the Genuine Contact way. I am so happy to have stories to share that I 
heard and picked up from you and others in the community of 
practitioners. Thank you!


Couldn’t think of anything more meaningful to do, right now.

Hugs dear friends, dear community

See you in Iceland!




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Re: [OSList] Greetings from OST training in Gävle, Sweden and looking at 2020

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Tom,

ok, this might be signaling you (and many of us who read this note) that 
you should immediately get yourself a large PIGGY BANK and drop at least 
one dollar or one Euro or 7 Turkish Lira or 5 Brasilian Real or 128 
Iceland Crown or 4 Israelian Scheckelinto it EVERY day so that you 
will be able to come to the WOSonOS in Berlin.
In 2020. Right, that will be the third time that WOSonOS will take place 
in Berlin (previous events were in 2000 and in 2010 where I told 
everyone there - and it was a good crowd of 150+ - that they mark their 
calendars). Thinking of it, you should place piggy banks in several 
strategic places in your home, office, etc. subtly suggesting that this 
fund raising is running.


Regarding Iceland: People keep asking me who all is coming to the 
WOSonOS there this year in October. So I started a list, its growing 
rapidly and in a few days I will let everyone on our LIST know.
So, if any of you reading this want to show others that you are coming, 
let me know. It will contain the names of participants and the countries 
they come from, not more.


If you, Tom, really would like to go to Iceland and a zero interest, pay 
back as you can, loan would help, be in touch. The Open Space World Map 
has a Revolving Credit Fund for such situations. You can read up on that 
here

http://www.openspaceworldmap.org/about-the-world-map


scroll down to the item
"Surplus"
where it is spelled out.

You included yourself in the Map

http://www.openspaceworldmap.org/worker/tom-brown


and those that want to be part of it, go ahead, join the 468 that are 
there already. Financial contributions of all os us (which are not a 
prerequisite for being in the map) cover the costs and whats left goes 
into the Revolving Credit Fund... which has helped a whole bunch of 
people to be part of the WOSonOSes and similar events. As has the 
magnificent Access Queen (hi there, Lisa)  and other more or less formal 
organisations (hi there, OSIUSA)...


Greetings from Berlin
mmp



Am 27.09.2018 um 17:41 schrieb Tom Brown:

Michael,

I have to do this through Google Translate.  I will not be able to go to 
Iceland.  I just don’t have the money at this time.


Ich muss dies über Google Übersetzer tun. Ich werde nicht in der Lage 
sein nach Island zu gehen. Ich habe gerade kein Geld zu dieser Zeit.


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Lieber Thomas,

super!

Ich werde andauernd gefragt, wer denn so nach Island fährt. Jetzt lege
ich selbst eine Liste an.
Wer kommt denn noch aus Schweden oder aus Deinem sonstigen Umkreis?

Herzliche Grüße aus Berlin
mmp


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[OSList] List of participants ...

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

coming to the WOSonOS in Iceland is growing.
Found 15 folks from 4 countries so far.
The list shows the names sorted by country.
There are 8 from Netherlands, 1 from Sweden, 3 from Germany, 3 from Iceland.
Please drop me a note if you are going to Iceland and want to be on this 
list.

Right now would be perfect so that it would be complete next week.

Have a great weekend wherever you are
mmp
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Re: [OSList] List of some participants for this years WOSonOS in Iceland

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Harold,

grand!

The current status of this growing list at this point shows 20 folks

Iceland (3)
Kari Gunnarson
Ingibjörg Gísladóttir
Hróbjartur Árnason

Sweden (3)
Thomas Herrmann
Eva P Svensson
Ulrika Eklund

Netherlands (8)
Leandra Gouw
Lois van der Hoeven
Jane de Bakker
Dere van Velzen
Jody van der Jagt
Camiel Naus
Rick Bastiaanssen
Tonnie van der Zouwen

Germany (4)
Anna Caroline Türk
Bettina Lobenberg
Eda Ursula Maurer
Bianca Sukrow

Canada (1)
Doug Marteinson

United States of America (1)
Harold Shinsanto

Those others going and wanting to be on this "semipublic" list, just let 
me know (via OSLIST or directly).
May it help you to be in touch even before the event... for whatever 
reason (many of those on the list can also be seen in the World Map with 
lots of contact data).


Have a great week
Greetings from Berlin
mmp


Am 01.10.2018 um 03:48 schrieb Harold Shinsato via OSList:

Just got my flight last night. I’ll be there too.

-Harold

On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 9:13 PM doug via OSList 
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
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Michael--

I'll be there.

Doug. Germann

On 09/28/2018 04:28 AM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList wrote:
 > coming to the WOSonOS in Iceland is growing.
 > Found 15 folks from 4 countries so far.
 > The list shows the names sorted by country.
 > There are 8 from Netherlands, 1 from Sweden, 3 from Germany, 3 from
 > Iceland.
 > Please drop me a note if you are going to Iceland and want to be
on this
 > list.
 > Right now would be perfect so that it would be complete next week.
 >
 > Have a great weekend wherever you are
 > mmp
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Re: [OSList] List of some participants for this years WOSonOS in Iceland

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Hulu,

I knew you would not miss this!
Now there are 22, coming from 7 countries.
In case you stop over in Berlin, let me know!

And I am sure more will show up.

Greetings from Berlin
mmp
Am 01.10.2018 um 11:53 schrieb Hulu Chen:

Hi Michael,

I hope this message finds you well!

Folks from China don’t want to be missed out - Just so you know Ms Song Qinghua 
and I (Hulu Chen) are going as well :)

Look forward to seeing some of you soon in Iceland.

Cheers,
Hulu


On 1 Oct 2018, at 08:40, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList 
 wrote:

Dear Harold,

grand!

The current status of this growing list at this point shows 20 folks

Iceland (3)
Kari Gunnarson
Ingibjörg Gísladóttir
Hróbjartur Árnason

Sweden (3)
Thomas Herrmann
Eva P Svensson
Ulrika Eklund

Netherlands (8)
Leandra Gouw
Lois van der Hoeven
Jane de Bakker
Dere van Velzen
Jody van der Jagt
Camiel Naus
Rick Bastiaanssen
Tonnie van der Zouwen

Germany (4)
Anna Caroline Türk
Bettina Lobenberg
Eda Ursula Maurer
Bianca Sukrow

Canada (1)
Doug Marteinson

United States of America (1)
Harold Shinsanto

Those others going and wanting to be on this "semipublic" list, just let me 
know (via OSLIST or directly).
May it help you to be in touch even before the event... for whatever reason 
(many of those on the list can also be seen in the World Map with lots of 
contact data).

Have a great week
Greetings from Berlin
mmp



Am 01.10.2018 um 03:48 schrieb Harold Shinsato via OSList:
Just got my flight last night. I’ll be there too.
-Harold
On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 9:13 PM doug via OSList mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
Michael--
I'll be there.
Doug. Germann
On 09/28/2018 04:28 AM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList wrote:
 > coming to the WOSonOS in Iceland is growing.
 > Found 15 folks from 4 countries so far.
 > The list shows the names sorted by country.
 > There are 8 from Netherlands, 1 from Sweden, 3 from Germany, 3 from
 > Iceland.
 > Please drop me a note if you are going to Iceland and want to be
on this
 > list.
 > Right now would be perfect so that it would be complete next week.
 >
 > Have a great weekend wherever you are
 > mmp
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Re: [OSList] List of some participants for this years WOSonOS in Iceland

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Good news!
Added Michal from Poland to the list I am compiling.
It now has 24 from 8 countries:

Iceland (3)
Kari Gunnarson
Ingibjörg Gísladóttir
Hróbjartur Árnason

Sweden (3)
Thomas Herrmann
Eva P Svensson
Ulrika Eklund

Netherlands (8)
Leandra Gouw
Lois van der Hoeven
Jane de Bakker
Dere van Velzen
Jody van der Jagt
Camiel Naus
Rick Bastiaanssen
Tonnie van der Zouwen

Germany (4)
Anna Caroline Türk
Bettina Lobenberg
Eda Ursula Maurer
Bianca Sukrow

Poland (1)
Michal Szpor

Canada (1)
Doug Marteinson

United States of America (2)
Harold Shinsanto
Douglas German

China (2)
Song Qinghua
Hulu Chen

There are rumors that many more have signed up. If you have signed up 
and also want to be seen on this list, let me know.

If you have not signed up, well, think about it!

Greetings from Berlin
mmp

Am 09.10.2018 um 02:58 schrieb Kári Gunnarsson via OSList:


  hi all



  Now it is less then 2 weeks until our Wosonos gathering in Iceland



  Michal Szpor from Poland sends his greetings, he will be at
  Wosonos in Iceland. I am looking forward to meet him and you all.


There were amazing northern lights displaces (Aurora borealis) yesterday 
night as i was going out of my car at home in Reykjavik city. I hope 
that the ones we have while Wosonos will also be as amazing.


I looked it up at the national aurora forecast, and it was very stron, 
figure 6! that is amazing display.

https://en.vedur.is/weather/forecasts/aurora/

Winter is upon us in Iceland now, so bring out the winter clothing! You 
don't want to catch cold staring at the green lights in the sky


with love from Iceland
Kári


On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 8:22 PM Kári Gunnarsson <mailto:kortleg...@gmail.com>> wrote:



Hey from Iceland

We already have 46 registration for the conference, 11 registration
from Iceland and 35 from other places, registration is still open!

Join us in Iceland 2018 for October 22-24 with a registration at
https://events.artegis.com/event/WOSonOS_2018
**//___^
Looking forward to seeing you all!


On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 11:10 AM Hulu Chen via OSList
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:

Hi Michael,

I hope this message finds you well!

Folks from China don’t want to be missed out - Just so you know
Ms Song Qinghua and I (Hulu Chen) are going as well :)

Look forward to seeing some of you soon in Iceland.

Cheers,
Hulu

 > On 1 Oct 2018, at 08:40, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
 >
 > Dear Harold,
 >
 > grand!
 >
 > The current status of this growing list at this point shows
20 folks
 >
 > Iceland (3)
 > Kari Gunnarson
 > Ingibjörg Gísladóttir
 > Hróbjartur Árnason
 >
 > Sweden (3)
 > Thomas Herrmann
 > Eva P Svensson
 > Ulrika Eklund
 >
 > Netherlands (8)
 > Leandra Gouw
 > Lois van der Hoeven
 > Jane de Bakker
 > Dere van Velzen
 > Jody van der Jagt
 > Camiel Naus
 > Rick Bastiaanssen
 > Tonnie van der Zouwen
 >
 > Germany (4)
 > Anna Caroline Türk
 > Bettina Lobenberg
 > Eda Ursula Maurer
 > Bianca Sukrow
 >
 > Canada (1)
 > Doug Marteinson
 >
 > United States of America (1)
 > Harold Shinsanto
 >
 > Those others going and wanting to be on this "semipublic"
list, just let me know (via OSLIST or directly).
 > May it help you to be in touch even before the event... for
whatever reason (many of those on the list can also be seen in
the World Map with lots of contact data).
 >
 > Have a great week
 > Greetings from Berlin
 > mmp
 >
 >
 >> Am 01.10.2018 um 03:48 schrieb Harold Shinsato via OSList:
 >> Just got my flight last night. I’ll be there too.
 >> -Harold
 >> On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 9:13 PM doug via OSList
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
<mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
<mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>> wrote:
 >>    Michael--
 >>    I'll be there.
 >>    Doug. Germann
 >>    On 09/28/2018 04:28 AM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList wrote:
 >>     > coming to the WOSonOS in Iceland is growing.
 >>     > Found 15 folks from 4 countries so far.
 >>     > The list shows the names sorted by country.
 >>     > There are 8 from N

Re: [OSList] Welcoming WOSonOS 2019 to the U.S.

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Me, too, b, and thanks Harold
mmp

Am 24.10.2018 um 18:02 schrieb Barry Owen via OSList:

BRAVO Harold!

We are up to this "challenge", and I am already excited about gathering 
here in the USA in a year.


Thank you for the great news!

b

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On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 10:55 AM Harold Shinsato via OSList 
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
wrote:


We are grateful that WOSonOS 2018 has accepted our hosting
invitation to Washington D.C. Most likely the second half of October.

I, Harold, am humbled and terrified, to have received the First
Nations talking stick as the symbol of the WOSonOS hosting and will
keep it safe until we hand it to the next host.

One of the biggest lessons is the facilitating Open Space, you hold
the participants lives in your hands. This is wisdom from Harrison.

Thank you to all our wonderful community,

Harold Shinsato
For the Open Space Institute U.S.


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Re: [OSList] Marking a New National/Regional Educational Policy -examples of Open Space meeting being set up?

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Inga,

some colleagues have already reported on their experiences and I imagine 
that there are many others that could add to that.


My take on your inquiry is different. I think, to put it briefly, that 
thinking and even working on it simply reduces the space and several 
important opportunities for those actually in charge of the event at hand.


What can be done, however, and I have seen this work many times, is to 
get the people sponsoring events regardless around what challenge to 
have a planning group/preparation group for the event at hand.


This planning group is a sort of extension of the sponsor who sets up 
the planning group. The way I usually describe the planning group is to 
have a bit of a microcosm of the kind of folks the sponsor would like to 
have or expect at the event.


The planning group is set up and meets as such just once (sometimes but 
rarely more than once) around four questions:


--- what do we envision as happening after the open space event (this 
brings up their intentions, interests, expectations, dreams, etc.)

--- what should be the overall topic, question, theme for the event
--- who all needs to be at the event to have our expectations met and 
addresses our overall topic
--- what are the tasks that need to be taken on before the event and who 
is in charge of them.


Your role as facilitator is then to just facilitate the planning 
session, taking responsibility for process and structure of that event 
and leave all the content to those participating (the sponsor and his 
helpers).


This kind of planning event makes sure from the very beginning that 
nothing context oriented will happen unless folks present take it up. 
Just as in an Open Space event itself.


The Planning session as described above take about 3,5 hours. I have 
used it in my praxis about 200 times before I published the detailed 
design. If you stick to the design I would not be surprised if it were 
to work everytime.


The effect is, that the event is entirely owned by those responsible for 
it.


Have a great day
Greetings from Berlin
mmp



Am 30.10.2018 um 18:20 schrieb Ingibjorg Gisladottir via OSList:

Dear OS community

Can anyone lead me to examples of where OS has been used in the making 
of Educational Policy of a nation/state/community?


I think it is important to invite children, teenagers, 
highschool/university students and young people who are recently out of 
school to the conversations. . ..but who else should be there?


Your insights on this and experience is appreciated if you have the 
possibility to share it with me.


All the best

Ingibjorg (Inga)

ingibjorg.gisladot...@gmail.com 
Reykjavik, Iceland


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Re: [OSList] OS success stories in a business/corporate/startup environment

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Inga,

good news!

Newspapers have reported on OST gatherings, Harrison has often mentioned 
a particular piece in the New York Times.

Here is a link to a Wikiversity entry

https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Open_Space_Technology


Even though the announcement of the wikiversity contains a reference to 
the New York article
((08.08.2018 - Open Space Technology (OST) is an approach for hosting 
meetings,  The story was picked up by the New York Times (need date, 
c. 1985) ...))
I could not spot any of that in the entry itself. Harrison will know the 
source.


The best source for stories from all over the planet are collected in 
"Tales from Open Space"... one of the stories is an account of the first 
OST event in Europe that the Accor Group organized in Paris in 1992 
(Eur-Open Space I, page 63). Some 175 participants gathered from all 
over (at that time Accor had 150 000 employees)... this happened just 
around the time when Accor and Waggons Lits became one company with 
hugely varying cultures.

After the 1992 event Accor incorporated OST in their annual "conference".
The other event mentioned in "Tales", Eur-Open Space II, page 125 
reports on an event in Oxford two years later, in 1994... it was 
facilitated by Roger Benson from Sweden.
"Tales" published by his outfit "Abbott Publishing" in 1995 has long 
been out of print, but it can be found in Harrisons site

http://openspaceworld.com/


und "Books"
here is the direct link

http://openspaceworld.com/Tales.pdf


Its there for free.

Leafing through my copy I noticed that every story is a gem, all of them 
could have happened this year, it is a grand introduction by the then 
pioneers in OST.
(I also sent ccs to colleagues that are connected in different ways with 
journalism... there are many more).


Good luck with your business journalist!

Greetings from Berlin where we just had a grand Stammtisch with folks 
who attended the WOSonOS in Iceland... you would have loved it!


mmp
‎

Am 08.11.2018 um 10:06 schrieb Ingibjorg Gisladottir via OSList:

Dear OS community

I have been in communication with a business journalist who is 
interested in writing about OST meetings in a business section of a 
daily newspaper.  What are the potentials, expected results, success 
stories etc?


I would appreciate if anyone could direct me to some specific success 
stories of what has been done in business/corporate/startup environment. 
Perhaps there is something to be found on the internet?  Or if you could 
give me some insight into specific examples.


Hoping to spread the word in Iceland

Thank you in advance

Ingibjörg (Inga)

Ingibjörg Gísladóttir
ingibjorg.gisladot...@gmail.com 
Reykjavík, Iceland


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Re: [OSList] OS success stories in a business/corporate/startup environment

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Anne,

all the best in Holland.
In case you plan to be in Berlin in conjunction with your trip to 
Holland please let me know right away.

Why?
Well, we is simply famous for having extraordinary os Stammtische when 
important and fascinating folks pass through Berlin.

Would love to see you again and chat
cheers
mmp

Am 08.11.2018 um 13:21 schrieb anne stadler:

There’s a great chapter by Anil Sachdev in a book edited by Dinesh Chandra & 
someone else whose name I’m forgetting about his consistent use of Open Space in 
his business entrepreneur activities/organizations. And I have a chapter in that as 
well.
I’m now in Holland. The book is home in my bookcase. I’m forwarding this to 
Dinesh so he can send you the title etc. ok?

Love Anne

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On Nov 8, 2018, at 1:14 PM, Michael M Pannwitz  wrote:

Dear Inga,

good news!

Newspapers have reported on OST gatherings, Harrison has often mentioned a 
particular piece in the New York Times.
Here is a link to a Wikiversity entry

https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Open_Space_Technology


Even though the announcement of the wikiversity contains a reference to the New 
York article
((08.08.2018 - Open Space Technology (OST) is an approach for hosting meetings, 
 The story was picked up by the New York Times (need date, c. 1985) ...))
I could not spot any of that in the entry itself. Harrison will know the source.

The best source for stories from all over the planet are collected in "Tales from 
Open Space"... one of the stories is an account of the first OST event in Europe 
that the Accor Group organized in Paris in 1992 (Eur-Open Space I, page 63). Some 175 
participants gathered from all over (at that time Accor had 150 000 employees)... this 
happened just around the time when Accor and Waggons Lits became one company with hugely 
varying cultures.
After the 1992 event Accor incorporated OST in their annual "conference".
The other event mentioned in "Tales", Eur-Open Space II, page 125 reports on an 
event in Oxford two years later, in 1994... it was facilitated by Roger Benson from 
Sweden.
"Tales" published by his outfit "Abbott Publishing" in 1995 has long been out 
of print, but it can be found in Harrisons site

http://openspaceworld.com/


und "Books"
here is the direct link

http://openspaceworld.com/Tales.pdf


Its there for free.

Leafing through my copy I noticed that every story is a gem, all of them could 
have happened this year, it is a grand introduction by the then pioneers in OST.
(I also sent ccs to colleagues that are connected in different ways with 
journalism... there are many more).

Good luck with your business journalist!

Greetings from Berlin where we just had a grand Stammtisch with folks who 
attended the WOSonOS in Iceland... you would have loved it!

mmp
‎


Am 08.11.2018 um 10:06 schrieb Ingibjorg Gisladottir via OSList:
Dear OS community
I have been in communication with a business journalist who is interested in 
writing about OST meetings in a business section of a daily newspaper.  What 
are the potentials, expected results, success stories etc?
I would appreciate if anyone could direct me to some specific success stories 
of what has been done in business/corporate/startup environment. Perhaps there 
is something to be found on the internet?  Or if you could give me some insight 
into specific examples.
Hoping to spread the word in Iceland
Thank you in advance
Ingibjörg (Inga)
Ingibjörg Gísladóttir
ingibjorg.gisladot...@gmail.com 
Reykjavík, Iceland
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www.openspaceworldmap.org

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some in English, some as ebooks, some multilingual
https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Kommunikation


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Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany
++49 - 30-772 8000
mmpannw...@gmail.com


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Space Workers in 76 countries working in a total of 145 countries worldwide

www.openspaceworldmap.org

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Re: [OSList] How many countries are in the worldmap?

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Thomas,

well, all the emails I send close with a signature in which the current 
number of countries in the World Map is noted:


"Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 469 resident Open 
Space Workers in 76 countries working in a total of 145 countries worldwide"


You joined the Map on August 18, 2004, being the first from Sweden.
Two months later, in Oktober of 2014, 87 of us from 25 countries had 
joined.


Three years later, in October 2007, the signature said:

"Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 458 resident Open 
Space Workers in 74 countries (working in a total of 132 countries 
worldwide)"


It has not changed much in a decade. However, many folks left and others 
joined over the years... the running ID number is now at 1099 former and 
current members.


Of course, the map shows all the countries listed by the United Nations,
252  in all. In other words, OST has popped up in 145 countries, or in 
57% of all countries. Lots of other spaces to go to, yet.


Why are you interested in the number of countries at just this moment?

Cheers from Berlin
mmp


Am 14.12.2018 um 14:36 schrieb Thomas Herrmann via OSList:

Hi

Anyone still counting? Michael?

Hugs from Sweden

Thomas Herrmann

Open Space Consulting AB

Pensévägen 4, 434 46 Kungsbacka, Sweden

Telefon: +46 (0)709 98 97 81

Email: tho...@openspaceconsulting.com

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Open Space Consulting frigör livskraft i människor, organisationer och 
samhälle.


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Amsterdam airport)


Apr 2-6: Genuine Contact Train the Trainer – Netherlands

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May 15-17: Organizational Health & Balance – Berlin, Germany

Sept 3-5: Working with Open Space Technology – Netherlands

Oct 16-18: Learning to work with Whole Person Process Facilitation - 
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[OSList] Opening Space for Peace & High Performance and WOSonOS 2019 in the USA

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Harold,

thanks for the good wishes, may the rest of 2019 be fortuitous and happy 
for you and me and whoever reads this.


Every year for many years, I melancholically gaze at the invitation to 
the New York event... without going. This year again I will not be 
partaking, shucks!


But, behold, here is what I definitely plan:
WOSonOS 2019 in October in the Washington DC area.
The travel Piggy Bank is set up.

What really will help me to keep it in mind and focus on it is the DATES 
and, if available, the VENUE. I heard you are one of those in the know, 
right?


Let it out!

Greetings from Berlin
mmp

Am 31.12.2018 um 23:40 schrieb Harold Shinsato via OSList:

Happy New Year All!

Hope you'll join us for our annual NYC Open Space at Columbia's 
International House, just before MLK day, Jan 18-20.


http://osius.org/peace-high-performance-2019

Warm Regards,
Harold

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Re: [OSList] OST as a way to go in addressing climate change and other perils

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Alan,

my response to your question:

"Could bringing Open Space Technology (OST) approaches be a vital means 
to address constructively the issues we face as global humanity in the 
now Anthropocene with its perils and opportunities?"


is:

Yes.
Open Space Technology does reliably work for wicked isssues everywhere.
And we know how it works.
The experiment with the prerequisite ingredients is described by 
practitioners such as Harrison Owen and several others in various 
languages. We give it away freely.


So, what is next?

Greetings from Berlin
mmp

See:

Am 19.02.2019 um 00:36 schrieb Alan Stewart via OSList:

G’day Fellow Spaceniks and other Kindred Spirits

The items below may be of interest to you.

They are about the looming perils of climate change and associated ways 
to consider and act on them, recently come to my attention.


I have followed such matters keenly since I attended a presentation by 
James Hansen 
 
while living in Hong Kong a decade ago.



My question: Could bringing *Open Space Technology (OST 
*) approaches be a vital means to 
address constructively the issues we face as global humanity in the now 
*Anthropocene* with its perils and opportunities?


See:

*Opinion | Time to Panic - The New York Times 
*


*Using Open Space to address climate change matters*

*https://jembendell.wordpress.com/2019/02/08/deep-adaptation-retreat-uk-2019/*

**

*We need to have a paradigm shift in how we view society and life.*

*https://americanminion.blog/2018/12/16/we-need-a-paradigm-shift/ 


*

*Also: **Fourth National Climate Change Assessment* 




(To add:  Here is a report, 
entitled 
*Vision, 
Values and Vibes*  which 
illustrates my credentials as a Spacenik!)



*Tall orders indeed*! Yet are there any means at hand other than *OST 
* with its underpinning premises and 
highly practical approaches to addressing complex issues - now needed 
urgently to create a viable living for succeeding generations of we 
humans and otherinhabitants of our tiny, fragile planet home?


With young people, particularly school children, crying out for 
necessary action:


https://www.euronews.com/2019/02/07/this-is-the-climate-generation-thousands-of-students-join-netherlands-protest

Next such events are happening all around Australia on March 15, 2019.


*To conclude:*

While I feel a need and associated responsibility – given the particular 
experiencing I have had over nigh on eight decades of being an earthly 
denizen (including participating in seven 'World Open Space on Open 
Space' gatherings, beginning in 1998) - to bring these perspectives to 
your notice …


It is, in my mind, for you younger *Spaceniks* to make what you will of 
them. Given that what I have drawn attention to here is likely only 
another way of expressing what you are already aware of.


Bearing in mind that,  as with great works of art, "Which cannot be 
taken in at a glance" /Linguist I.A. Richards/, so it will be in your 
grand adventuring ahead.


Looking forward, indeed.👍

*/Al /**//*

Al (formerly Alan) Stewart, PhD
Process Artist
Facilitator of conversations that matter and participatory fun

Senior Fulbright Scholar

Blog: www.conversare.net 

Member:American Society for Cybernetics 

*Member: **National Trouble Makers Union* 

*Residence: Adelaide, South Australia, since 1975
With time away in the USA (1981) and Hong Kong (2005-2011) *

*_*



*"Whenever we treat each other well good things happen."
/Al Stewart/*


*//***

PS. If you feel in need of inspiration, you may wish to look out for  - 
perhaps through your local library - a book of photographs entitled*'The 
Family of Man'. *"The greatest photographic exhibition of all time ..."


This was published in the early 1950s. And was subsequently exhibited in 
many countries. I saw one of these, at age 14, in what is now Harare in 
Zimbabwe. It had a profound influence on me.


You may also find this little story 
to be uplifting. ☺





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Re: [OSList] OST as a way to go in addressing climate change perils

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Alan,

re your question of February 20:
"I wonder if you see that drawing to the attention of the young people
at issue that OST principles and practices could be a way to enable them
to move forward?"

here my musings:
Here is the wikipedia.org entry on School strike for climate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_strike_for_climate


The next opportunity in probably thousands of places in the world to 
talk to them is on March 15 of this year. Wikipedia reports:
"Friday 15 March is expected to be the most widespread of strikes, with 
tens of thousands of children in at least two dozen countries and nearly 
30 US states projected to walk out of school, supported by some of the 
world’s biggest environmental groups."


It seems to me that the aim of the strikes is to get governments 
everywhere to "reduce carbon emissions as per the Paris Agreement". And 
getting organized is not their problem and they are being heard. And 
they are obviously enabling themselves.


And it would not surprise me to see all kinds of activities in many 
areas supporting the same goal. Folks in Adelaide could refuse to drink 
wine or commit other offenses on Fridays, Berliners to not eat even a 
morsel of bread every Friday, Parisiens to simply stay home on Fridays, 
churches everywhere could ring their bells every Friday... stuff like 
this will happen without OST.


What I do know, however, is that many people who have been part of 
gatherings that used ost (in schools, in hospitals, in parishes, in 
youth organisations, in neighborhoods, in foundations, in international 
peace projects, in community organisation projects, regional 
development... in government agencies, in businesses...) will remember 
this for a long time, maybe forever. And they will seek out the nearest 
or dearest or whatever os-worker and find out whether their wicked 
challenge could profit from ost.


Greetings from Berlin and enjoy your favorite beverage in Adelaide or 
wherever you are before climate change wipes it out


mmp

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Re: [OSList] Fwd: The Practice of Peace (2nd Edition) Book

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Michael H. and Martin,

I checked with Human Systems Dynamics Institute in Minnesota who 
published the 2nd edition of The Practice of Peace (this is the version 
that HO has on his website to download 
https://www.openspaceworld.com/final%20pop%20hdsi.pdf


the publisher still has some some of the books and is ready to provide 
them, here is the contact email address rholla...@hsdinstitute.org


If you, Martin, are in Europe, you can also get a copy directly from me 
(I have a number of the books in my office); or order it from the online 
bookstore of my publisher in Berlin

https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/the-practice-of-peace
who also has the German versions both in paper or as an ebook
https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Raum-fuer-den-Frieden
https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Raum-fuer-den-Frieden-E-Book

The story of how "The Practice of Peace" originally did not find a 
publisher and how HO liberated it so any of us could simply print and 
distribute it, is one of the great stories that demonstrate the spirit 
of os-workers around the globe. It was simultaneously published by 
colleagues within weeks after HO let go of it in Germany, USA, Canada, 
Australia, Sweden, Haiti, Taiwan and Israel. I wonder in what languages 
it is available other than English and German.


Apart from all that, Pop is a gem. When I get to feel out of whack or in 
chaos, I read in it... for instance in Chapter VI where you can find 
some guiding points for peacemakers:


Never work hareder than you have to.
Don't fix it if it ain't broke.
Never delude yourself into thinking you are in control.

Greetings from Berlin
mmp


Am 21.02.2019 um 22:59 schrieb Michael Herman via OSList:
The request copied below came in today.  Do we have any more copies of 
the Practice of Peace book?  If anyone is still curating a pile of 
these, could you be in touch with Martin?  Thanks, Michael


Michael Herman
Michael Herman Associates
312-280-7838 (mobile)

http://MichaelHerman.com
http://OpenSpaceWorld.org

-- Forwarded message -
From: *Martin* mailto:martin.r...@gmail.com>>
Date: Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 3:04 PM
Subject: The Practice of Peace (2nd Edition) Book - 
https://openspaceworld.com/intro%20to%20pop.htm

To: mailto:sa...@openspaceworld.org>>


Hello,

I'm looking to purchase a copy of Harrison Owen's book: The Practice of 
Peace (2nd Edition) Book


I've got this contact information from this page:
https://openspaceworld.com/intro%20to%20pop.htm

Please let me know if or when a copy of this book would be available.

Thank you,

Martin



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Re: [OSList] Skye Hello and Welcome today to OS Hotline

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

"Urgency" is one of the prerequisites for an os event that focuses on 
expanding time and space for the unfolding of the Force of Selforganisation.
It is one of 5 or so prerequisites that can be checked on in the process 
of deciding whether OST is the best way of dealing with a wicked 
situatition/burning business issue/raging chaos.
All of the prerequisites are needed for the whole enchilada. "Urgency" 
is one that needs to be in place. If it is not urgent, why bother.

Greetings from Berlin
mmp

Am 26.02.2019 um 19:41 schrieb Skye Hirst via OSList:
Just a follow up notice... We had 4 people on call today and the word 
"urgency" came up. What makes urgency?  What moves us in a world of 
overload with too much information?  How do we use technology to offer 
urgency that might help us act in small ways when big urgencies use up 
so much of our energy, that we feel too numb to do anything?


So, questions to myself I take away from today's conversation:
How can I notice this and use it to invite into circle the urgency of 
the group, of the organization or community?
Can I and/or the inviting group identify a common obvious urgency ?  Do 
invitations need to state the obvious urgency or does it just exist?  Or 
does the urgency become clear in the OS circle?  What simple question 
can I ask myself that would cause me to open more space to change the 
rest of my life? Whew,  where did that come from?  I suspect not 
directly from the conversation, but it's what came up in writing this.


  What simple question are  you asking yourself about Open Space World 
and Technology,

oh, heck, what about OST makes you feel alive with sense of urgency?

Thanks all. Hope to see and hear from you next week, Tue. EST at noon.

On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 7:20 AM Skye Hirst > wrote:


Hello all!!

You are invited to our  OS Tue Hotline Call.  There are so many
exciting events and questions happening within our community. 
Please come with what you are most passionate about and let's meet

up today. Talk soon.


Come meet us on Zoom, *Tuesday February 26th @12 PM EST*. We will
gather for 1+ hours - Law of Two feet applies!

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Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2019 - Save the Date - Oct 25-27

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Yes, grand, thanks, see you there...
mmp

Am 24.03.2019 um 05:47 schrieb Open Space Institute U.S. via OSList:

Save the Date! October 25-27, Friday through Sunday

For the World Open Space on Open Space 2019

In Cherry Hill Park, 980 Cherry Hill Road, College Park, Maryland
(30-45 minutes from Washington, DC and both airports.)

Thursday Evening Gathering and Story Telling

More details (and invitations) to come...

Your Truly,
 From the Board of the Open Space Institute, U.S.

Karen J. Davis, Suzanne Daigle, Barry Owen, Harold Shinsato,
Kevin O'Brien, Mark Sheffield, Myriane Ouellette

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Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2019 Invocations

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Suzanne,

in these parts of the world, folks take everything in with caution that 
reaches them or was written on April first. Even what you read in the 
papers... actually, our daily paper here in Berlin has an intentional 
false piece of news. Everyone looks for it and sends a note to the 
paper: They get dozens of notes pointing to news pieces that are in fact 
"facts".
So, signing off, you would not say "Happy Monday everyone!" but "Survive 
April 1st, everyone!".


I was wondering what you were registering for not having seen a way to 
register for the WOSonOS.
But then I read the note all the way to the end and see that there are a 
couple of timeslots "to participate in the dialog to invite a successful 
WOSonOS 2019" in April.
This started me to think about what "a successful" WOSonOS might be or 
what an unsuccessfull WOSonOS would look like. I have been to a few and 
was among the sponosrs inviting to a couple in Berlin in the last 
decades... if I recall correctly, I had fun, was excited, learned, felt 
how me and everbody else were leading, managing, visioning, befriending 
each other and experiencing surprises which had me in awe and impacting 
me and my work with OST.
And then I remembered the recurring exchanges we had on the "Theme" 
ahead of the WOSonOS.
In the face of the experience that the "Theme" was always "Open Space on 
Open Space" I kept being surprised how hard sponsors were often working 
on that.
Also, I stumbled over "Invocations" (in reference to the April dates). 
Not knowing exactly what it means, I went to wikipedia and found that it 
is an ambigious term that has many connotations:


--- a form of supplication or prayer
--- the main centering prayer of Universal Sufis
--- an episode in a TV series (The X-Files)
--- a method of starting a subroutine in Computing
and so on

In which way does it relate to OST or the WOSonOS?

I also tried "supplication" which is mentioned in the list above. It says:
"Supplication (also known as petitioning) is a form of prayer, wherein 
one party humbly or earnestly asks another party to provide something, 
either for the party who is doing the supplicating (e.g., "Please spare 
my life.") or on behalf of someone else."

Ok, if you are still with me, I stopped my investigation.

Tonight I will attend a gathering of Democrats Abroad (its amazing how 
many of us live/work in Berlin) on the "Theme": "Climate Change: 
Individual vs. Collective Action"...
Fighting Climate Change and Fridays For Future are THE themes in Berlin. 
Last Friday I joined. There were 25 000 schoolkids skipping school 
(totally illegal in Germany). Just great. Has all the prerequisites for 
the force of selforganisation to have a ball: urgent, burning issue, 
decision time of yesterday, very diverse crowd, komplex context, 
voluntary presence, open question, lots of conflict.
On my way home via streetcar a couple of 11 year old girls were 
meticulously discussing the merits and faults of the one-way cups they 
got at McDonalds and a local organic market, including the drinking straws.


Greetings from a sunny Aprilspringday in Berlin
mmp

Am 01.04.2019 um 22:36 schrieb Suzanne Daigle via OSList:
Oops realized I'm a week ahead. Just saying in case someone else is 
overly eager.


Happy Monday everyone!


On Apr 1, 2019 1:17 PM, "Suzanne Daigle" > wrote:


Thank you Harold. I have just registered.
See you tonight.
Suzanne

On Mar 30, 2019 2:43 AM, "Harold Shinsato via OSList"
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:

What do you want to have happen for the World Open Space on Open
Space 2019, October 25-27 in Cherry Park Hill, Maryland in the
Washington D.C. metropolitan area?

What do you want to have happen in the Open Space community?

What do you want to have happen, period? For yourself, your
community, your world?

You're invited, either via video/sound during two online events,
or at any time, to participate in the dialog to invite a
successful WOSonOS 2019.

We'll be facilitating the dialog in Open Space. You are welcome
to attend either or both.

Part 1:http://bit.ly/wosonos2019invoke1
 - Mon April 8 - 7-9pm edt
(evening EDT)
Part 2:http://bit.ly/wosonos2019invoke2
 - Sat Apri 13 - 7-9am edt
(morning EDT)

If neither of these times work but you'd still like to help, you
can also use either of the QIQO Chat links above to contribute
to the dialog online at any time. Or feel free to post to the
OSList or any board member via email.

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Re: [OSList] seeking a good workshop venue in Paris for June 2019

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Andrea,

to be in touch directly with os-colleagues in Paris, go here

https://www.openspaceworldmap.org/


and enter "Paris" in the search field, it will lead you to 10 os-workers 
there with all their contact data, websites, etc..
For instance, Christine Koehler, who organized a European Open Space 
Learning Exchange there and facilitated plenty os in Paris.


Good luck with your project.

mmp

Am 02.04.2019 um 05:51 schrieb Andrea Jane Shaw via OSList:
Dear OpenSpacers: I have long been a lurker on this list and I’ve 
generally used the resources of the Open Space World website if I have 
needed to ask specific questions. Unfortunately, the website does not 
appear to be working so I must trouble everyone with this very specific 
question.


I will be facilitating a workshop in Paris in June (not an Open Space, I 
hasten to add) and would be very grateful for advice about good venues - 
there will be about 35 participants and I would like enough room for one 
circle (9m the narrowest side of the room). I’m looking for natural 
light, decent food and in the same part of Paris as the OECD, if that is 
possible.


Any advice? Thanks heaps in advance.

Kind regards, Andrea

“Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, 
I can hear her breathing”

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Re: [OSList] seeking a good workshop venue in Paris for June 2019

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Andrea,

to be in touch directly with os-colleagues in Paris, go here

https://www.openspaceworldmap.org/


and enter "Paris" in the search field, it will lead you to 10 os-workers 
there with all their contact data, websites, etc..
For instance, Christine Koehler, who organized a European Open Space 
Learning Exchange there and facilitated plenty os in Paris.


Good luck with your project.

mmp

Am 02.04.2019 um 05:51 schrieb Andrea Jane Shaw via OSList:
Dear OpenSpacers: I have long been a lurker on this list and I’ve 
generally used the resources of the Open Space World website if I have 
needed to ask specific questions. Unfortunately, the website does not 
appear to be working so I must trouble everyone with this very specific 
question.


I will be facilitating a workshop in Paris in June (not an Open Space, I 
hasten to add) and would be very grateful for advice about good venues - 
there will be about 35 participants and I would like enough room for one 
circle (9m the narrowest side of the room). I’m looking for natural 
light, decent food and in the same part of Paris as the OECD, if that is 
possible.


Any advice? Thanks heaps in advance.

Kind regards, Andrea

“Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, 
I can hear her breathing”

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Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2019 Invocations

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

When I was still around facilitating os events my intention was to 
expand time and space for the Forces of Selforganisation to unfold more 
freely.
Probably, that was also good for the participants. But I did not worry 
about them, they took care of themselves.

Whole being or not.
And then, I did not expect folks to feel that they can fill up that 
space, I knew they would.
I never opened space for stuff such as topics, or discussions, ideas, or 
beings (see above)... when the Force of Selforganisation started to do 
its thing, all those things simply happened all by themselves.

Not because of the facilitation.
Especially discussions. Never. I knew there would be dialog and 
cooperation and collaboration but not discussion.
And opening space for angels and more I think is pretty outrageous. Them 
are plenty and making space for them is an oxymoron. They might open 
space for us, perhaps.
Of course, Birgitt, I consider all your perspectives with radical 
respect. And I have all kinds of doubts about mine.

Love
mmp


Am 05.04.2019 um 22:14 scA
Thank you for speaking up. I agree. A strong statement of 'You are meant 
to be here with your whole being' lacks the invitational aspect that is 
part of the invitation for OST.


_As a theme_, I think it is provocative and can open up for some great 
discussions about OST
Does it allow us to explore if those who come are really welcome in as 
the 'whole being' that each person is?

Is it safe to be the whole being? Dare I? Dare I not?
Is it implied in meeting method OST that the whole being is welcome? If 
it is implied, and then the actions are different either inside the 
meeting or in the many side meetings outside of the meeting as 
butterflies gather and then what?

What do we do with different perspectives?
When we open up space, are we opening it with the willingness as the 
facilitator for the whole person to show up?


There are many more topics that come to my mind.

In thinking about the theme that I wanted to add to the mix for 
consideration, I was thinking that as a facilitator of OST meetings, 
when I open space I expect the people to feel that they can fill up that 
space, to take the space that they need whether it is big or small, 
because the space is big enough for each unique person to take up what 
is needed. We are not just opening space for the topics, the 
discussions, the ideas...we are opening the space for the beings. I was 
going to say 'human beings' but then I remembered that I open space to 
include the angels and more.


That is it from me. I appreciated reading your perspective,

Birgitt




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Re: [OSList] Teaching OST

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Anthi and you others out there,

as some of us have discovered, OST can not be taught in the traditional 
sense. In a way, I cant think of anything that can be taught in the 
traditional way. Especially when it comes to depth.
The mantra here is you can neither teach nor learn OST but if you are 
lucky, you can remember it.
Now the remembering process is not something that happens much in 
traditional learning. Even getting into OST is too complex for teaching 
and learning, but folks love to do it anyhow and have come up with 
entire programms. That might be one of the reasons why some of what is 
named OST or open space appears so far away from the real thing.


For remembering, if that is what will do the trick, its not teaching and 
learning but getting into such modes as "open space on open space". Here 
form and function are interwoven. An "event" is experienced by those 
that have followed an invitation to come to such an event and are 
physically at the event where time and space are open for spirit, 
selforganisation, high play, hilarious fun ...
Now, imagine you get certified for something that is remembered. 
Possible? I and some others that have been involved in "ost trainings" 
conducted totally in OST, the 3 to 5 day variety, simply issue 
participants a paper that certifies their attendance.


Some of the participants will later add to their cv that they have been 
to such an event and sometimes mention who invited to it. That has 
always puzzled me. Is that a cowtow to widely spread norms? An attempt 
to impress potential clients?


Greetings from Berlin on a sunny April morning...
mmp

Am 10.04.2019 um 07:04 schrieb ANTHI THEIOPOULOU via OSList:

Hi Harrison,

We are also offering FREE a single-user account of the software to ALL. 
I have learned from you so I couldn’t do it any differently than you.


The certification is NOT in OST, is in Organizational Learning (OL) and 
Systems Thinking (ST). We are not teaching technologies that are already 
widely taught very well like OST or AoH or SoL basic trainings. We 
actually ask one of thee training to have been already taken in order to 
take the exam for the certification.


I would deeply appreciate if you could use your free account of the 
software and share your reflections. The innovation is the software that 
allows scaling up of participatory leadership, the workshop is a spin off.


Warm greetings and best wishes,
Anthi
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Re: [OSList] How long for opening for smaller group?

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Jake,

seasoned hands who have the suggestion in mind to have a close look for 
one thing they can do without at their next try (each os event remains 
an experiment) have come up with many things they no longer do.


For someone new at this, the suggestion is to do it by the book the 
first few times and read the entire book before each new event... and 
then get into the mode of "one thing less to do".


And when that happens, this is another Law if you like, the variation or 
other learning needs to get into the big pool since ost has become 
something we all are adapting, improving, shortening, etc.


The punishment for not sharing learning is severe. In Berlin I demand a 
free glas of beer when I meet the culprit. So, watch out, Juliane... you 
should have come up with your insight a long time ago.


Good luck
mmp

Am 11.04.2019 um 01:49 schrieb Jake Yeager via OSList:

Thanks everyone for your input!

Juliane--it's a one-day OS.

I am intrigued by the fact that you do not use pre-determined session 
slots. For the OS I am facilitating, I am basing the design on HO's User 
Guide.


What do you find to be the pros and cons of having the participants 
handle time and, I assume, space management?


Thanks!

All the best,
Jake


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you will be free of problems.

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Re: [OSList] How long for opening for smaller group?

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Well, Juliane, if everyone knew already, why are questions posted?

Actually, I find it good that questions are asked about things that are 
already discussed and apparently settled. Its just another way of 
expanding space over and over again and sharing stuff over and over 
again, its never exactly the same and how could it be?


Peace
mmp

Am 11.04.2019 um 13:47 schrieb Juliane Martina Roell (Structure & 
Process) via OSList:



Michael M Pannwitz via OSList schrieb am 11.04.19 um 08:1> The 
punishment for not sharing learning is severe. In Berlin I demand a
free glas of beer when I meet the culprit. So, watch out, Juliane... 
you should have come up with your insight a long time ago.


Wait... I thought everybody knew this already? OK, allright, time to 
tell more stories I guess...


See you at Stammtisch soon. :)


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Re: [OSList] How long for opening for smaller group?

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Juliand,

aspects such as "time-slots" and other stuff around the Bulletin Board 
and the Marketplace are very subtle.


I, for instance, never speak of "time-slots" but rather of the "starting 
time" for a session and not about the time when it closes. And add a 
little stuff about what might happen "when it is over" and "when it is 
not over" in a breakout session. Actually I have done this in 
conjunction with talking about "When its over/not over" (Vorbei/nicht 
vorbei)... and also address, very briefly, the situation when you face 
the next bunch coming into the  breakout space and the bunch there is in 
the middle of an issue.



And the "Whenever it starts is the right time" (Es fängt an, wenn die 
Zeit reif ist) is also subtle. It has different connotations also in 
different languages, I suppose, from "It starts when it starts / it ends 
when it ends"...


Looking back to my beginnigs with os events in 1996 I see that we had 
very structured Bulletin Boards, with the space outlined to fit exactly 
the size of the paper (A3) that were provided for the issues... in fact, 
you can see such a schedule on pages 73 and 74 in the Third Edition of 
"Open Space Technology-A User's Guide" / 2008.
In "Meine open space Praxis" you see a Bulletin Board on page 97... 
somewhat different.
Really different stuff and design turns up when folks can not read or 
write... its all oral AND it fits the culture in that particular 
situation that I heard about. Written stuff is very suspicious.


This is grand stuff to discuss at os on os  OR at a Stammtisch, of course!

cheers
mmp


Am 11.04.2019 um 13:45 schrieb Juliane Martina Roell (Structure & 
Process) via OSList:

Jake Yeager via OSList schrieb am 11.04.19 um 01:49:

I am intrigued by the fact that you do not use pre-determined
 session slots.  (...)
What do you find to be the pros and cons of having the participants 
handle time and, I assume, space management?


One less thing to do for me. :o)

I also feel that in my contexts (mostly the German-speaking world), 
people follow structure strongly: when a "slot" is 60 minutes, the 
"session" that people put into the "slot" will most likely last 60 
minutes. And it will end on time, because people have another "session" 
to go to (which was put into a pre-defined "slot" earlier on).


"It starts when it starts / it ends when it ends" become somewhat empty 
words.


By _not_ predefining "slots", I show people directly that *they can 
decide how to spend their time - freely*. In the moment. change their 
idea about what is important spontaneously. and so on. Pre-defined slots 
often create a "program" for the day whereas an open schedule creates 
much more flow, spontaneous changes, interesting conflicts and solutions 
about space-usage... and most of all: more *initiative*. With open 
schedule I see much more of "Oh, I have a new idea now; I will call for 
a session immediately!" (goes to board, rings a bell) and much less of 
"oh that was interesting, but the marketplace is already full and all 
these other sessions are scheduled so I might wait and see and distract 
myself..."


(And some people dislike these conflicts and the creativity and the 
intensity that comes with that and go for more ease and efficiency, and 
that may be perfectly valid depending on context.)


Another advantage is that people can create very tiny sessions to fix 
problems. "I have this thing and I need ten minutes to..." And then 
people show up and BOOM it's done, one problem solved, and more capacity 
created to now work on other things. This never happens if all the 
"slots" are 45, 60, 90 minutes long.


Love,
Juliane.



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[OSList] One thing less to do and other neat ideas from the field of experience and practice

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Gray and Juliane and everyone out there,

lonely souls!
Right, this is one reason to have OSLIST. It works.

Remembering and honoring that "breaks" were the beginning of open space 
technology I looked out for ways to have the entire os event in the 
spirit and the structure of a break... and it is not over and probably 
will never be.

Here are some of my details:

--- the event starts with a "break". Its there in the schedule: 8:30 Break

--- there are only beginning times for breakout sessions, no slots (and 
in the introduction I address this aspect in context of one of the Facts 
of Life "When its over, its over... When its not over, its not over")


--- instead of time slots for meals or coffee breaks, there is a 
permanent buffet, from 8:30am, in the first "break", until after the 
closing circle. The permanent buffet has always fresh fruit, vegetable 
sticks, dips, nuts, coffee, tea, water, juice and someone who looks 
after it. During what we usually would call "lunchtime" (lets say from 
11:30 to 14:30) the permanent buffet is expanded with something like a 
hot soup, salad, bread or even fancier stuff and in the afternoon 14.30 
to 16:00 there is another expansion with light cakes cut into small pieces


--- the beginning times for the breakout sessions are fixed and there is 
a longer break between those breakout sessions in the middle of the day 
(I have not experimented without beginning times and am interested to 
hear more details, stories with this approach)


Ok, come out of your lonely place and spread your learning (which, as 
you might have heard, is a Law)


Greetings from Berlin
mmp





Yes, this! For my open spaces since 2007 (at least in one particular 
flavor) we never break up the day - not even for lunch (“At a certain 
time, Lunch will magically appear! If you are hungry then, feel free to 
partake. If not, feel free to keep doing what you’re doing.”) My 
experience has been that I often have to reassure certain people that it 
will be alright - the lack of pre-determined slots makes them nervous. 
By the end of the day, they are almost always happy with it - and 
meanwhile we have sessions (which is what I call them) ranging from 5 
minutes to four and half hours, however much it truly needs.


Juliane, thank you for being the first OS practitioner I’ve ever known 
who also practices this way. I feel less lonely.


:-)

Gray

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[OSList] Prerequisites for Selforganization/open space - in Haiti

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear LIST,

in the midst of our dialogue on
"One thing less to do and other neat ideas from the field of experience 
and practice"
a message from John and Merlin Engle reached me from Haiti in a time of 
deep crisis and chaos.


It describes in detail how "a relatively" safe space in the middle of 
crisis and chaos in an extremely chaotic situation under involvement of 
diverse elements wanting to get through a wicked situation creates 
constructive cooperation in a humane and peaceful and non-violent 
manner. No doubt, the continuing practice of many of those involved in 
day-to-day Haitian style of os was of good help.


It will take a few minutes to read through this note from Haiti, I could 
not interrupt or stop until I came to the end...


Here is the link

https://haitipartners.org/childrens-academy/from-violence-to-dialogue-dealing-with-unrest-at-the-childrens-academy/

I wonder what this means to you.

Greetings from Berlin
mmp






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Re: [OSList] New to the list but not new to the tool.

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Paul,

welcome to the LIST.

Seeing that you live in Florida, I suggest you open the World Map

https://www.openspaceworldmap.org/


and enter "Florida" in the Search field of the MENU in the upper right 
hand corner of the map.

You will see 5 of us living and working in Florida.
Click on their profiles and contact them.
Suzanne Daigle for instance... she once convened our annual world 
gathering in Florida... I was not there but did I hear stories!


And, of course, you are invited to show yourself in the World Map. Just 
click on "Include Yourself in the Map" and off you go.


Greetings from Berlin
mmp

Am 02.05.2019 um 21:10 schrieb Paul Gabbard via OSList:
I am new to the list.  I am interested in observing and learning from 
some experienced facilitators with the goal of becoming a 
facilitator myself.  I live in Gainesville Florida.  Is there anyone 
holding events in the Southeastern United States sometime in the next 4 
or 5 months that would be open to some observation.


Thank you


Paul Gabbard
352.359.2713


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Re: [OSList] Companies using OST regularly

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Francois,

individuals have lists but I do not know of lists beyond that.

For a brief but detailed report on working with OST over a ten-year 
period (2001-2011) see this ebook (it contains the report in German, 
English, Polski, Francais, Espanol and Chinese)

https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Practicing-Open-Space-Our-First-Ten-Years-E-Book


As far as I know they continued after 2011 (when I sort of retired) and 
are still using it.


In case you have "Meine open space Praxis" you will find it there in 
German as Chapter V, paper back

https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Meine-open-space-Praxis


There is a data base that list about 832 events from all over the world 
by about 60 facilitators

https://openspaceworldscape.org/


If you go to

https://openspaceworldscape.org/events?tag=&q=Michael+M+Pannwitz&commit=Search


you can see about 200 events that I deposited there.

And you will discover that some organisations used OST a number of times 
in consecutive years (Friedrich Ebert Stiftung, a political foundation). 
Here is the direct link to 10 events  from 2007 to 2012)

https://openspaceworldscape.org/events?tag=&q=Friedrich-Ebert-Stiftung+Berlin&commit=Search



or in a series over 6 years (once every two years for Strategic 
Planning) in that case the German equivalent to NACOA (National 
Association for Children of Alcoholics) (2008,2010,2012... with another 
one planned for 2019 or 2020)

https://openspaceworldscape.org/events?tag=&q=NACOA&commit=Search


The events that I facilitated are all the classic, non copyrighted 
crittors straight from the book.


Greetings from Berlin
mmp

PS: For those of you who want to have a look at Francois Knuchel with a 
very impressive picture of him, look here

https://www.openspaceworldmap.org/worker/francois-knuchel

He is one of the 40 os-workers in the UK part of the worldmap.


Am 03.05.2019 um 12:42 schrieb Francois Knuchel via OSList:
Hi all.  Do we have a record somewhere of businesses and organisations 
who are using OST internally on a regular basis?  By regular I mean 
either a) as their basic mode of operation (e.g. where all major 
pan-organisational decisions are made in OST), or b) for specific 
purposes, e.g. innovation hackathon, stakeholder dialogues, change 
management, where OST is the default approach, rather than being a one- 
or two-off event.  In both cases regularly over several years.


There are plenty of examples where OST has been applied but on a one-off 
basis, i.e. where OST is the exception rather than the rule.  I’m 
looking for those organisations where OST (or similar, i.e. a 
contextualised form of OST) is the default mode.  Is there such a 
record, has someone compiled such a list, do we know of such an archive? 
(Do they even exist?)


If not, then I’ll be happy to initiate one, but I don’t want to reinvent 
the wheel (one thing less to do), so if something already exists I’d 
appreciate hearing about it.  Please let us know.  Many thanks.


*François Knuchel*

M:  07729371915

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[OSList] Searching for Raffi

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear colleagues and friends,

am not able to reach Raffi Aftandelian (user of the world map since 
2005, at that time still in Russia where he convened the 14th WOSonOS in 
2007) with the contact data I can see here

https://www.openspaceworldmap.org/worker/raffi-aftandelian


Emails I send to this address

raffi_1...@yahoo.com

result in failure notices.

His phone is off.
His website cant be found.

Hmmm!
If anyone has working contact data, please let me know.
Offlist is also great, here my email

mmpannw...@gmail.com


Have a great weekend and greetings from Berlin
mmp



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Re: [OSList] Searching for Raffi

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Thanks for your response, Alan.

Unfortunately, the email you sent and a corrected version
raffi...@protonmail.com
do not work.
Search is still on!

Greetings from Berlin
mmp


Am 05.05.2019 um 08:50 schrieb Alan Stewart:

raffle...@protonmail.com

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [OSList] Searching for Raffi

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Yes, Carmel, that is Raffi alright.
There is a much better picture of him here

https://www.openspaceworldmap.org/country/GB



Since I am not part of Linkedin or similar stuff, I cant see his whole 
profile. If you can and if then you see other contact info than that in 
the WorldMap profile, please let me know and I will test it.


Have a great day in London... by the way, if you are looking for ost 
contacts in London just enter "London" in the Search field of the Map

https://www.openspaceworldmap.org/


to see a dozen of us, all of them famous, of course, especially those 
hanging around with "Devoted & Disgruntled"

https://www.devotedanddisgruntled.com/


Greetings from Berlin and thanks for helping in finding Raffi
mmp

Am 05.05.2019 um 10:48 schrieb Carmel Moore:

Good morning from London. Is this the famous Raffi by any chance?


http://linkedin.com/in/raffi-aftandelian-892354

Carmel Moore
07917 245 248
Sent from my iPhone

On 5 May 2019, at 08:39, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList 
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
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Thanks for your response, Alan.

Unfortunately, the email you sent and a corrected version
raffi...@protonmail.com <mailto:raffi...@protonmail.com>
do not work.
Search is still on!

Greetings from Berlin
mmp


Am 05.05.2019 um 08:50 schrieb Alan Stewart:

raffle...@protonmail.com <mailto:raffle...@protonmail.com>
Sent from my iPhone

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worldwide

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[OSList] No longer searching for Raffi

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

With the help of Alan in Australia and Carmel in the UK Raffi turned up.
I am relieved and there will be an update of his World Map entry soon, I 
am sure.


Take care
mmp
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Re: [OSList] Who Opens the Space?

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Dear Alan,

some time ago when I was still employed and had the joy of working with 
a grand colleague employed in the same outfit we did a lot of odd stuff. 
What we did usually worked, in fact, it was stunning how well it worked.


Other folks working in the same organisation but in different parts of 
Berlin, hearing of what we were doing would say: "Oh well, of course, 
you guys in Steglitz (one of the districts of the city)!" (Similar, it 
appears to me, to someone saying: "From Fremantle, no wonder!")


We felt they accepted what we were doing and pointed out that we were in 
a different space (geographically and perhaps in other ways). What they 
did not know and we ourselves were also unaware of, this was long before 
we ran into OST, was our way of dealing with control. This is what I say 
in hindsight.
We had some principles such as: Never offer people ways of doing stuff 
or giving them advice, even though we were "consultants" or maybe 
because we were consultants. We turned up here and there to watch and 
listen. And then folks came and asked us, we had plenty of time, and 
some kind of relationship began out of which or through which stuff 
unfolded that had been there but was folded.


From my present point of view, I also assume that space is. Sometimes 
it is widely opened and other times it is less opened and sometimes it 
is shrunk to almost zero. I also assume that if it is completely closed 
it has the character of stuff in which all thermal motion ceases, that 
is at O Kelvin, or at -273.15 C / -459.67 F, and stuff just turns into 
dust when you touch it. This is what also happens to groups, 
organizations and systems of our own making when space has shrunk to 
zero. They simply disappear.


Then OST came to me and I tried it. It worked and I kept with it. It 
working was what I liked. As I got practice I appreciated the 5 or 6 
prerequisites for selforganisation and some details about the various 
roles and their functions in the process.


Presently, I feel it works very well if the prerequisites are in place, 
no shortcuts are taken, the sponsor opens the event in such a way that 
it widens the space just a bit and the facilitator introduces the 
approach (kiss, of course). In this process the persons and functions 
change: the sponsor becomes participant, the facilitator disappears and 
the participants lead, structure, connive, manage and act.
Instead of setting up a container, space is expanded (control reduced) 
and the needed structure, call it what you like, is created, maintained, 
adjusted, changed, etc. by those that can best decide what they need, 
the participants in selfcontrol. They are the ones that take or leave 
the invitation to attend, offer or do not offer issues... if those 
things dont happen, the event is over (for some reason I have never 
experienced this but someone among us probably has... what I did 
experience in one case, however, is that after an OST-event, a well 
established and seemingly thriving organisation folded a week after the 
event, hmmm!).


In real events stuff happens such as the sponsor (in this example the 
CEO) turning up in polished shoes, fine thread and perfect tie... and 
after his opening taking off his polished shoes, fine thread and tie and 
slipping into sneakers, jeans and a T-shirt to sit in the circle of 
participants. The facilitator disappearing into the background when all 
the issues have unfolded and have found their place on the bulletin 
board. The participants taking over everything that needs to happen.


What I also discovered is that Action Planning after all issues have 
been dealt with is very successful when done as a "second" open space 
(some call it Action Space). It is superior to statistical methods such 
as voting or weighing with dots because it has at its base not that 
which is important but which folks will act on with passion. This arose 
from the observation that often those proposals with the most dots did 
not find a single actor.


As far as my own role as facilitator is concerned I have no better way 
of describing than the mantra "is totally present and completely 
invisible". This sounds impossible and probaby is. Of course, many feel 
that OST is impossible when the first hear of it. When they engage in 
one they are usually surprised but no longer feel its anything special 
but it puzzles and tickles and you want more. I think it is a natural 
process that continues to be remembered and it is for free. Anybody with 
a clear head and a good heart can do it and most of us have a clear head 
and a good heart. Perhaps practically everybody. At times,

my wife does wonder about my clear head and then I ask for her advice.

Who do you have near you that you ask for advice?

Greetings from Berlin
mmp



Am 08.05.2019 um 17:21 schrieb Alan Halford via OSList:

It is becoming abundantly clear to me that every time  I have the privilege to 
facilitate an Open Space that the space is already open and 

Re: [OSList] Sample Opening Script for Open Space w/o Time Slots?

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Glad you said that, Harrison!

My recommendation is to simply read the Guide about a week before you 
have the good fortune to facilitate an open space event. All of it. 
Every time. I did this for more than twenty years. Found new stuff each 
time. And was not hampered to find my own style. Ok, that is in the book 
that I wrote. Its in German. And all germanspeaking facilitators read 
that before each os event they facilitate. It has pictures, 100. It is 
also available as an ebook. So my next suggestion is to to learn German. 
Took me a long time, too. English was easier.


And once you are really happy about your approach in whatever language, 
write a book in that language. Dont translate it. Let others write their 
version or tell the story in their foreign words.


Greetings from Berlin
mmp

Am 15.05.2019 um 21:20 schrieb Harrison Owen via OSList:

Hate to say it…It’s in the Book!

Harrison

*From:*OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf 
Of *Jake Yeager via OSList

*Sent:* Wednesday, May 8, 2019 7:15 PM
*To:* oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
*Cc:* Jake Yeager
*Subject:* [OSList] Sample Opening Script for Open Space w/o Time Slots?

Hi everyone,

Does anyone have a sample opening script for an Open Space without time 
slots?


Thanks!

All the best,
Jake



When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and 
you will be free of problems.


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Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 97, Issue 13

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Mark,

I assume that its not distraction that prevents people from listening.
My observation is that the reaction time to stuff we hear or observe is 
so short that it can not come from the active brain. Its mostly a 
reflex, sometimes deeply conditioned, that triggers the inactive brain 
to suggest an answer at the speed of light (at least much faster than we 
can think). One might get some control over this mindless, thoughtless 
reflexive mode by  consciously counting to three (slowly), about the 
time needed for the active mind to come up with something other than a 
reflex which is not chosen by the active brain, but forced upon us.


have a great day
mmp

Am 16.05.2019 um 02:41 schrieb Mark Carmel via OSList:
That is right Harrison Owen it IS in the book.  THE Bible  Of 
cooperation communication and collaboration the highest life forms of 
the human spirit. When I set the world record you know open space in 
1993 for convening the largest conference in the world at that time of 
700 people I was scared to death and I followed The Bible. Now 26 years 
later  Segments of our community school system have been transformed  
Significantly for the better with incredible success stories by the 
people who acted to step up and take responsibility.   One of the 
problems in our world right now is people are so distracted they don't  
Listen or try to understand. It's in the book.


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 > On 14. May 2019, at 22:17, Michael Herman via OSList
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 > congrats on the first opening, jake.  there's a sample opening
script in my training and practice guide.  i crafted that from the
user's guide in 1996 and have annotated it along the way.
https://www.michaelherman.com/publications/inviting_leadership_guide.pdf 
...see page 44.

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 >> On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 5:14 PM Jake Yeager via OSList
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 >> Hi everyone,
 >>
 >> Does anyone have a sample opening script for an Open Space
without time slots?
 >>
 >> Thanks!
 >>
 >> All the best,
 >> Jake
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Re: [OSList] open message to Nick Martin

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Marei,

this thorough review of „OST with a twist“ is a gem.

It would not surprise me if it would become an eye-opener for spotting 
other „OST with a twist“.


From me, several thoughts:

--- the OST process has no trademark and is not owned by any one 
individual and Harrison sometimes points out that he is not the inventor 
but simply stumbled onto it with the help of some earthly spirits, in 
fact exactly two of them BUT if you use it, you are committing yourself 
to pass on what you learned


--- one of the mantras for me has become Critical Practice Reflection 
(CPR, not trademarked, mentioned by one of the elders): "Reflect on the 
OST event that I just facilitated and look for one thing I would do 
without next time I facilitate an event"


--- this almost always has a control reduction effect. Thats important 
because I know that a sure fire way to reduce the space for 
selforganisation is "control". The space shrinks and if it disappears 
altogether, whoosh the group, organisation or system evaporates(but dont 
dispair, it never shrinks to absolut zero and no matter how much it 
shrunk it will blow up again under supportive conditions such as 
described in the book


--- doing one thing less also makes the process simpler... and, if it 
works, easier to reproduce. And this is important, if OST is to spread. 
I am interested in having many folks getting into using the OST approach 
because I know how liberating it is to selforganise. OST is available to 
everyone, not just the caste of specialized facilitators


And one last thing: Nothing can be partially inspired by xyz if you 
remove the core notion of xyz.


Greetings from a very hot day in Berlin... here the government of Berlin 
no longer uses the neutral term "climate change" but "climate heating" 
to scare us, I is scared!


mmp

Am 05.06.2019 um 01:53 schrieb Marai Kiele via OSList:

Hello Nick Martin,

I find myself tense in my belly after reading your newsletter today:

I just wanted to share with you a popular WorkshopBank tool 
 you 
can start using with your clients right away. Let me know what you think.


You suggest that the reader lets you know what they think. I choose to 
do that.


I also choose to do that in the form of an open letter, as several 
months back you asked on the os-list for input to your description of 
the OST process for the Workshopbank.
You introduced your version of „OST with a twist“, and there was a 
somewhat heated discussion on this list about it.
I participated in both, revising and giving you feedback on your 
description (as requested) and discussing about „is something with such 
a twist still OST?“


Your twist was about giving the leaders control about the topics.

Back then I used the analogy that you are mixing red wine with coca cola 
(which some people actually do and drink — I tried it out as a teenager).
And that calling such a beverage „red wine with a twist“ is an 
inaccurate representation of a) red wine and b) the taste that a 
consumer will experience.

(side note: usually, this mix is done with red wine of poor quality)
In my analogy, OST is the red wine and controlling the process is the coke.

In your description, you early on distinguish between OST and OST with a 
twist. I first appreciated you for making that distinction so upfront.

Then I read what you wrote under:

*If you’re following the traditional Open Space Process...*

  *
1
Gather your participants together and briefly explain how Open Space
events work using Harrison Owen’s 1 Law and the Guiding Principles
as appropriate. Traditionally you should do this with everyone in a
circle around youbut you don’t necessarily have to.
  *
2
Ask participants to spend 10 minutes thinking through if they have
any issues they’d like to raise.
  *
3
If there is a general agreement that the issue has enough support
and passion behind it invite the issue owner to add the issue to the
schedule.
  *
4
Once all issues have been added invite the participants to sign-up
for the sessions they’re planning on attending (they are free to
change their mind later if they want to).
  *
5
Your sessions start.


There is much more on this page that, as I see it, is NOT "the 
traditional Open Space Process“. I am giving just some further examples:

https://workshopbank.com/open-space-technology


Process for a Session

  *
1
Each session should be a round group of chairs (no table in the
middle) with preferably one facilitator to lead the discussion and a
scribe on the flip-chart.
  *
2
A session starts with the issue owner welcoming and tha

Re: [OSList] number of breakout groups

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Erich Kolenaty created a photo presentation on the one day OST event in 
Würzburg/Germany (2013) that HO mentioned with 2108 participants.
232 issues were presented and dealt with in 3 phases (starting times at 
10:15, 11:45 and 13:45)  which meant 77 breakout spaces. Many of the 
breakout spaces were set up by the participants... look here

https://www.transformation.at/documents/OS_Wuerzburg_minimized.pdf


There is also a 78 minute film on this event, including the English and 
German version of the introduction by HO and mmp,  interviews with 
participants, facilitators and sponsor, available here

https://www.steinhardt-verlag-shop.de/epages/61415289.sf/de_DE/?ObjectID=2386608


If Peggys rule of thumb would have been applied (20% of the people post 
issues in large groups) there should have been 421 issues. At the 
Würzburg event nobody imagined 232 issues. But 232 issues were easily 
dealt with by the 2108... the only explanation I have for that is the 
magic of the force of selforganisation.l


The rule of thumb mentioned in the "mini spec" that Robin Muretisch 
posted "... 3 out of 10 participants will post a session" would have 
meant 632 issues in Würzburg.


So much to the rules of thumb.

My experience is that the number of issues posted is not only a factor 
of the number of folks attending but also has to do with the length of 
the event.
With smaller groups the number of issues can be the same as the number 
of participants and even more if it is a "regular" 2,5 day OST event 
where additional issues are posted during the event.
Another factor is that participants vary greatly in the number of issues 
each participant offers. In some cases there will be participants that 
offer 2 to 10 issues and others dont offer any.


The ressource that Lori Palano remembered to have seen was a graph with 
two parameters (number of participants and number of issues) that was 
prepared by someone in the team that set up the event with 2108 
participants.
Basically, it showed a curve that rose steeply and then tapered off to 
almost a straight line... meaning that in general the number of issues 
rose inversely to the number of participants, or, the larger the group 
the smaller the number of issues per participant.


I am sure someone among us has that graph buried in a file.

I wonder what additional parameters other than than number of 
participants and length of the event would have to be considered for a 
more reliable tool to predict the number of issues to be expected at an 
OST event.


Greetings from Berlin
mmp


Am 05.06.2019 um 17:37 schrieb Harrison Owen via OSList:
And then there was the time when Michael Pannwitz and I had 2108 
participants… And I think we ended up with 175 Groups. We grossly 
under-estimated (75) – but fortunately you can add groups as  many as 
you need. The People are always right, and they will claim the space 
they need. Facilitators are only guessing – and then just get out of the 
way J


Harrison

*From:*OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf 
Of *Lori Palano via OSList

*Sent:* Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:51 AM
*To:* oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
*Cc:* Lori Palano
*Subject:* [OSList] number of breakout groups

Hello all

A number of years ago I seem to remember a resource shared on this list 
that calculated an average number of breakout groups that tended to show 
up according to the total number of participants based on the cumulated 
experience of this community. Does this ring a bell with anyone? I think 
it was an excel sheet. I'd like to find it again, but so far my 
searching hasn't lead to anything.


Here's hoping!

Lori


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[OSList] Fwd: Re: number of breakout groups

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Christian,

yes, it depends on many factors. You identified a number of them.
For those really interested in this aspect and passionate about 
developing a tool, have a look at the list so far:


1--- number of participants
2--- length of event
3--- number of "planned" opportunities (evening announcements, morning news
4--- degree of urgency (decision time of yesterday)
5--- degree of complexity of the challenge
6--- degree of confusion (degree of unknowing in regard to answers)
7--- level of potential conflict
8--- level of diversity among the participants
9--- age of  participants
10-- productive framework (daylight, fresh and healthy food, fresh air, 
a wonderful view into the surroundings, participants staying on-site 
during the entire event... )

---
---
---
Some of these parameters can be arrived at in the registration process 
(1, 8, 9)

Some are part of the design and overall site planning (2, 3, 10)
Some are part of the planning process (going through the prerequisites 
for an OST event in the contact meeting with the sponsor... such as 4, 
5, 6, 7, 8).


I know how to do a graph with 2 parameters... but there must be ways 
with more parameters. A computer program, an algorithm. This might be 
something an agile-ost-worker could work out.


A few times I have also seen participants that would not post issues and 
would not go to breakout session but just hung around and did the 
butterfly. Dont we think that, systemically speaking, butterflies are 
important "centers of inactivity" providing spaces for the unexpected. 
Ok, how would that fit into a "formula"?


Greetings from Berlin
mmp





Am 06.06.2019 um 12:02 schrieb Dr. Christian Kemper:

Am 06.06.19 um 01:10 schrieb Michael M Pannwitz via OSList:

I wonder what additional parameters other than than number of 
participants and length of the event would have to be considered for a 
more reliable tool to predict the number of issues to be expected at 
an OST event.


Hihi, Michael:-)

As far as I experienced there is no rule or reliable answer to this 
question - it depends on so many factors (e.g. how urgent is the os, how 
complex the question, how unknown the answer, how conflictual the 
problem, how diverse the group and so on).


But one thing I was able to see so often is that the younger the people 
are the more issues they raise. In open spaces with children there are 
sometimes as many issues as people participate, the maximum I saw was 
1.3 issues per person (in a 1.5 day os with around 100 people).


I also remember one girl who raised eleven issues in a three-day open 
space with six starting times.


And i remember the boy, who negotiated his issue in the same open space 
over the whole time, again and again and supplemented and expanded it 
and finally probably negotiated with all 250 people right up to the 
action planning. It was: "Cocoa instead of milk in the breaks". At the 
next meeting he reported and justified with a broad chest and proudly 
that it was not implemented after he had gone through all school 
instances (and democracy learned from it).


Sunny greetings to all of you!

Christian



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German, some in English, some as ebooks, some multilingual

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Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany
++49 - 30-772 8000
mmpannw...@gmail.com


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Space Workers in 76 countries working in a total of 141 countries worldwide

www.openspaceworldmap.org

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Re: [OSList] Fwd: Re: number of breakout groups

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Jeff,

what I usually see in ost events in these parts and what I encourage to 
show is a big sign shortly before your reach the space saying "Welcome" 
(Herzlich willkommen), just as you enter the space a big sign saying "Be 
prepared to be surprised" (Augen auf! Mit Überraschungen ist zu 
rechnen.), a big sign stating the Theme that you see as you step into 
the space, 4 (or 5) big signs posted in the space with the principles 
(Tatsachen des Lebens), two big signs with a butterfly and a bumblebee, 
The Law, and the agenda for the event... and a huge empty wall, the 
bulletin board.
If all that is in place  and spaced around the room and in plain sight 
and in big letters so that it can be seen and read from any place in the 
space it is an OST event, of course. Anything less or more is nothing 
but a vain attempt to have "OST with a twist".
When I think of this setting or visualize it I am instantly in the mood 
to post issues and quickly get into breakout groups.
And now I wonder if this simple stuff, visualized, without a spoken word 
is not one of the main parameter for the event to fly.


Have a great day in San Francisco
mmp


Am 06.06.2019 um 18:52 schrieb Jeff Aitken via OSList:
"Be prepared to be surprised" may not be as widely shared as the other 
famous OST phrases - but it sure helps facilitators as well as 
participants!


Jeff
San Francisco


On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 9:37 AM Michael M Pannwitz via OSList 
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
wrote:


Dear Christian,

yes, it depends on many factors. You identified a number of them.
For those really interested in this aspect and passionate about
developing a tool, have a look at the list so far:

1--- number of participants
2--- length of event
3--- number of "planned" opportunities (evening announcements,
morning news
4--- degree of urgency (decision time of yesterday)
5--- degree of complexity of the challenge
6--- degree of confusion (degree of unknowing in regard to answers)
7--- level of potential conflict
8--- level of diversity among the participants
9--- age of  participants
10-- productive framework (daylight, fresh and healthy food, fresh air,
a wonderful view into the surroundings, participants staying on-site
during the entire event... )
---
---
---
Some of these parameters can be arrived at in the registration process
(1, 8, 9)
Some are part of the design and overall site planning (2, 3, 10)
Some are part of the planning process (going through the prerequisites
for an OST event in the contact meeting with the sponsor... such as 4,
5, 6, 7, 8).

I know how to do a graph with 2 parameters... but there must be ways
with more parameters. A computer program, an algorithm. This might be
something an agile-ost-worker could work out.

A few times I have also seen participants that would not post issues
and
would not go to breakout session but just hung around and did the
butterfly. Dont we think that, systemically speaking, butterflies are
important "centers of inactivity" providing spaces for the unexpected.
Ok, how would that fit into a "formula"?

Greetings from Berlin
mmp





Am 06.06.2019 um 12:02 schrieb Dr. Christian Kemper:
 > Am 06.06.19 um 01:10 schrieb Michael M Pannwitz via OSList:
 >
 >> I wonder what additional parameters other than than number of
 >> participants and length of the event would have to be considered
for a
 >> more reliable tool to predict the number of issues to be
expected at
 >> an OST event.
 >
 > Hihi, Michael:-)
 >
 > As far as I experienced there is no rule or reliable answer to this
 > question - it depends on so many factors (e.g. how urgent is the
os, how
 > complex the question, how unknown the answer, how conflictual the
 > problem, how diverse the group and so on).
 >
 > But one thing I was able to see so often is that the younger the
people
 > are the more issues they raise. In open spaces with children
there are
 > sometimes as many issues as people participate, the maximum I saw
was
 > 1.3 issues per person (in a 1.5 day os with around 100 people).
 >
 > I also remember one girl who raised eleven issues in a three-day
open
 > space with six starting times.
 >
 > And i remember the boy, who negotiated his issue in the same open
space
 > over the whole time, again and again and supplemented and
expanded it
 > and finally probably negotiated with all 250 people right up to the
 > action planning. It was: "Cocoa instead of milk in the breaks".
At the
 > next meeting he reported and justified with a broad chest an

Re: [OSList] Thank You

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Thunk of the force of selforganisation?

hugs
mmp

Am 07.06.2019 um 14:08 schrieb Anna Caroline Türk via OSList:

Dear Jake,

thank you for taking the time :)

When I read your reply I miss the focus on building "capacity to learn”.
You say "I assume that all parties and organizational structures are 
constantly growing and evolving."


I wonder do they do that

  * miraculously
  * consciously
  * as a result of CEO learning
  * as a result of whole system learning
  * ….


And you say: "I am here to support development towards higher level of 
awareness, etc.”
Is using Open Space Technology your tool of choice? Which other tools do 
you use for that?


Have you heard of the Genuine Contact program? It is also designed, to 
achieve organizational success through a shift in consciousness. The 
approach focusses on building capacity to learn in organizations. I 
became a Genuine Contact trainer in 2010 and apply the methods and tools 
with my clients I am just so proud to see them getting aware of their 
leadership, structures etc… and evolve their organizations consciously 
from inside out with the wisdom of the whole organization. Check out the 
GC program - it might be valuable for you!


Have a great weekend! And thank you for allowing me to ask questions ;)
Anna Caroline




On Jun 3, 2019, at 10:54 PM, Jake Yeager > wrote:


Hey Anna,

Sorry for the much belated response. Regarding your questions, I 
assume that all parties and organizational structures are constantly 
growing and evolving. I am here to support development towards a 
higher level of awareness, love, wisdom, consciousness, humility, 
courage, joy, etc.


Much love,
Jake


When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, 
and you will be free of problems.

 - Robert Adams 


On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 3:11 PM Anna Caroline Türk 
mailto:annacarol...@truthcircles.com>> 
wrote:


Dear Jake,

I want to ask last is:

What are your assumptions and beliefs about:

- your role and your capacity to support learning
- the AVPs role and his capacity to learn
- the teams role and capacity to learn
- the organizational’s structures and capacities to learn

Have great day!
Anna Caroline




On May 9, 2019, at 1:26 AM, Jake Yeager mailto:jacob.yea...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hey Anna Caroline,

My responses are below:

/If the new team is there to bring a new way of working to the
company - I am curious what their their burning question would
have been?/

Me too. :) There seemed to be significant energy around
communication and governance.

/And whom they would have liked to invite to the Open Space? /

They may have been interested in inviting others from their group
and other groups whom they work with. We are exploring holding a
larger Open Space to do just that.

/I am also wondering if the AVP is aware of the leadership
approach s/he is communicating implicitly, by deciding on this
theme alone last minute? Is this a definition of agile?! /
/
/
Haha, yeah I wonder! And I do not think that this is in the Agile
Manifesto. :)

/In your role as organizational development consultant, how can
you support the leaders of your company to reflect and adjust
their leadership approach if wanted?/
/
/
We also offer coaching services to leaders in the organization. I
am also proposing to the AVP that his group operate in
"continuous" Open Space.

Hope this helps answer your questions.

Much love,
Jake


When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once
again, and you will be free of problems.
 - Robert Adams 


On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 6:23 PM Anna Caroline Türk
mailto:annacarol...@truthcircles.com>> wrote:

Dear Jake,

thank you for your prompt response! I did not know the word
'fledgling' before - but it's a good word to know! :)

I have been contemplating what to ask next and here are my
questions - which you might share, too:

If the new team is there to bring a new way of working to the
company - I am curious what their their burning question
would have been?
And whom they would have liked to invite to the Open Space?

I am also wondering if the AVP is aware of the leadership
approach s/he is communicating implicitly, by deciding on
this theme alone last minute? Is this a definition of agile?!

In your role as organizational development consultant, how
can you support the leaders of your company to reflect and
adjust their leadership approach if wanted?

If you find the time to reply I am happy to read your response.

much Love
Anna Caroline





On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 1:42 AM Jake Yeag

Re: [OSList] Current Success with OST in K-12?

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Jake,

I do not have experience with open space being employed in classrooms.

I do have a lot of memories of open space events that I facilitated in 
after school Kindergarten (6 to 11 year old kids), elementary school (in 
Berlin thats grade 1 through 6), high school (grade 7 to 13), vocational 
training schools (16 through 18 years old)... and in subsystems of these 
organisations (such as student representatives in highschool) and larger 
systems (project exchanges between schools from throughout Germany that 
attempted to have "Democratic Schools" (these were os events for 
professionals from schools and government departments) or "Schools 
without Racism"(this was for 50 elementary schools with 3 students from 
each school... a very joyous event with 150 kids that none of the 
educators watching it could believe).


Among those taking part in these various os events there was recurring 
interest of somehow working with os in the classroom. But I have no 
stories on what actually happend.
It seemed to me  that it would require some twisted ost approach (see 
the current discussion on this list).
However, I remember that the student body representatives in one 
highschool (Beethoven Oberschule in Berlin-Steglitz) decided to use ost 
for their weekly meetings. They selforganised  it and were overwhelmed 
by the productive fun they had.
Anna Carolina Türk (see World Map) was a student at Beethoven at that 
time and active in the student body... she could tell you a lot more on 
this story from her own experience. I will cc to her.


Checking on Chris Weaver of Evergreen Community Charter School in 
Asheville, NC (Birgitt pointed to his work) I also ran into a Book 
"Redesigning America's Schools, a systems approach to improvement" with 
a number of references to OST in schools, but not in classrooms. It 
seemed to me that Chris also wrote on this topic, could not find a 
reference, though.


I have heard of schools employing ost as a basic approach in their 
schools (in Israel) but have no sources. Maybe Tova would know about 
this (see Tova Averbuch in the World Map). I cc this to her.


I have also heard of using ost in graduate programmes where students and 
everyone else involved designed and implemented and ran graduate 
programmes (one University in Seattle if I remember correctly, Ann 
Stadler and Peggy Holman are likely to know more).


Even though I no longer work as a facilitator, I would love to hear of 
ost in the classroom with its challenges (non-voluntary attendance, 
teacher as facilitator, fairly homogeneous groups...).


Oh yes, there are a number of facilitator  colleagues in Germany with 
experience in school settings... for instance Christian Kemper in Bonn.


On reading through our email exchange (Chris and I) I found these notes 
from December 2015:


"I am on a writing retreat, close to publishing a book of a new school 
design, in which OST figures prominently.  Back to work!k"


and a little bit later, in January 2016, after I asked him to be put on 
the list of buyers:


" I'd be honored to share my work with you as soon as it is in a 
finished-ENOUGH form, which is maybe only a few short weeks away.  I am 
most interested to hear if the school design I propose, and the 
philosophy underlying it, makes sense to you, is useful, and suggests a 
potential German-language audience."


And a few days after that:

" the book deals some with the physical space, but that is only a very 
small part.  the word "design" in the title connotes the design of 
process and structures of interaction.  a lot of the book is devoted to 
more than 50 principles and the educational philosophy behind themi 
need to keep in mind harrison's mantra about "one less thing"!


I wonder what happened to this project.

In "About the author" of his book "The Heart of the Canoe..."
it says: "Chris is the author of "Living School Design & Practice" (to 
be published early in 2017, which shares a comprehensive design for a 
new kind of school."


Anybody seen this book?

Greetings from Berlin
mmp


Checking for Books by Chris I found
Am 12.06.2019 um 01:12 schrieb Jake Yeager via OSList:

Hi everyone,

My wife is a journalist who writes about education, and she is curious 
if anyone is currently having success employing Open Space in K-12 
classrooms.


Please let me know if you are and would be willing to speak with her.

Thanks!

All the best,
Jake


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you will be free of problems.

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Re: [OSList] Message for Eric re Hawaii

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

It is exactly 5395 miles / 8682 km... no problem for Romy who walked to 
the North Pole...

mmp

Am 13.06.2019 um 22:22 schrieb Harrison Owen via OSList:
Romy…You have always been MAD… Delightfully so. But your geography is a 
tad off. I understand that anything West of the UK is “out there”. But 
there is a difference between Haiti and Hawaii – Maybe 6000km?


ho

*From:*OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf 
Of *Romy Shovelton via OSList

*Sent:* Thursday, June 13, 2019 10:39 AM
*To:* oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
*Cc:* Romy Shovelton
*Subject:* Re: [OSList] Message for Eric re Hawaii

Sorry everyone…  I’m going happily mad here… John Engle is in Haiti… not 
Hawaii !!




On 13 Jun 2019, at 15:37, Romy Shovelton > wrote:


Eric,

Open Space has been used for /many/ decades in Hawaii - directly with 
the community and in running the amazing organisation that has been 
running the most extraordinary education and other community support. 
John Engle is the absolutely amazing human who has made all this happen.


So sorry to John… I’ve forgotten the name of his organisation in Hawaii. 
There are so many people who will know - including Harrison. I can ask 
others if needed.


Romy

Tyddyn Retreat Mid Wales Venue & Holiday Cottages

+ Wikima Ltd

Wales, UK



Aloha all,

I’m looking for references to a similar situation (more below) where OS 
was the contributing factor of success, in particular to communicate to 
government and community leaders here why OS will get the results they need.


The context is the community engagement piece of recovery efforts from 
the 2018 volcano eruption in Hawaii. I’m consulting with the County 
Recovery Manager, who has been convening other types of gatherings much 
of this year. Now that disaster relief funding is closer to being on the 
ground, the County wants to convene a larger, multi-sector event, to 
encourage development of community-based recovery actions. The County is 
also planning to have a Disaster Recovery Fund setup, which would field 
a competitive process for proposed projects, some of which may have 
convened in the larger event and decided there to collaborate on a proposal.


As with other parts of the recovery effort, this event would be under 
public scrutiny. It may be the largest event they’ve held, and County 
leadership is worried of perceptions and actual results coming from the 
event. In other words, there may be tendencies to have more control over 
the design/outcome of the day, in which case OS wouldn’t be the chosen 
organizing framework, but something else they’re more at ease with or 
accustomed to. I do believe, however, those community-based recovery 
actions are what they want most.


Do you have links or references to similar public sector gatherings 
using OS, under scrutiny, and producing anticipated results satisfactory 
to government and community, that I might share with County leadership?


Mahalo!

~Eric

Eric M. Kapono, CPF

/Advancement Services/

/for Native Nonprofits/

Hilo, Hawaii

808.969.3991

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Re: [OSList] Government community engagement

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Eric,

once upon a time I facilitated an OST event that took place 2 months 
after a carefully planned, execute and successful 3-day FutureSearch 
(Weisbord/Janoff for an inner city neighborhood in Berlin (Helmholtzplatz).


Invited was everyone who took part in the FS (64 people representing 
every aspect of the neighborhood) and whoever else was interested to 
work on projects for which a very large sum was available for distribution.
Announcing his project, one particpant declared that he needed the 
entire sum for his project.


In the closing circle he declared that he did no longer need any money 
because he had found others interested in his project and that was more 
important to him than the money.


Ok, be prepared to be surprised.

mmp

Am 14.06.2019 um 02:10 schrieb Eric M. Kapono via OSList:

This is great.

Harrison, I do hope anyone feels invited and safe enough to open as much 
space as they need at that moment. Whether County wants to go down that 
road is the question I’ll need answered. There is much the recovery 
effort needs to be mindful of, especially with families and communities 
still struggling with loss, and I would hope this would be an 
opportunity to aid social and emotional recovery as much as the public 
recovery efforts. Part of how open, for me, also includes the inevitable 
discussion with how we distribute the initial invitation: publish in the 
daily mass media, or direct invites to the 100s in the database, or more 
narrow? I’m not sure where they are leaning on this.


I’m glad Birgitt brought up about the money. I was wondering this too, 
and how the dynamic changes once money is in the equation. Yours is 
really interesting how it turned out! (And, another story I’ll keep in 
mind when talking with the County!!) We are thinking of announcing a 
grant program through a 3^rd party for collaborative action projects, 
and wondered if that would complicate things more. While we are a ways 
from designing details, my thinking right now is an Issues and 
Opportunities morning circle, then an afternoon Actions circle (1 or 2 
time slots) for personal initiatives that might dovetail to 
collaborative actions which submit later on to the 3^rd party. Or, do we 
take a lighter touch with announcing grant opportunities and then a full 
day Issues and Opportunities circle?


Thanks again! ~Eric

*From:*OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf 
Of *Birgitt Williams via OSList

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I like what Harrison says and the conversations happen...either where 
they don't make a substantial difference (out in the back rooms and 
parking lots or on fb) or they do make a difference (in an OST meeting) 
where they are visible and can be engaged in.


The situation even within an OST takes a different tone when money gets 
involved. When people come from a prosperity frame of mind, they tend to 
believe that there are enough resources including the coming money, to 
do what is needed. When people come from a scarcity frame of mind, they 
start getting into positionality about where the money is going to go.


One example that I was involved in was when a national church made the 
decision to allow ordination of gay/lesbian pastors. Many congregations 
left, taking their money with them in disagreement with the decision. 
Others chose to express their upset by withholding money from social 
justice efforts...and this church was dedicated to social justice work 
within the country and abroad. For three years, there was a hold on 
distribution of the remaining monies/income, and when a new idea came 
forward the answer to spending the money was always a firm 'no'. The 
entire situation was in bunker like mentality of scarcity.


Some in leadership asked me if I could do something to help this 
situation along. I proposed an OST meeting and we used 'givens' that 
included 'any topic that anyone wanted to move forward that did not 
require money from the national church could go forward without further 
approval' and 'any topic requiring money would go forward for a vote to 
determine if it could go forward within a very limited budget that was 
made available...something like $40,000'. We had a great OST meeting and 
it was the first breathing space that the leadership of social justice 
within that church had in some years. I could feel the breathing 
starting in the room. I had organized the posting of reports on two 
different newswalls. One newswall was for reports that did not require 
extra money, the other newswall was for reports that did require extra 
money. If memory serves me right, 78 topics were posted on the wall of 
'not needing extra money' because the people in the discussion knew how 
to resource that topic. Only 6 topics (approx) were on the wall of 
topics requiring extra money. No v

Re: [OSList] Message for Eric re Hawaii

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Romy and you others on the LIST,

now that the geography has been put in order again, here is the www for 
the work John Engle does in Haiti

https://haitipartners.org/


In the earlier days of Haiti Partners, John attended WOSonOSes several 
times and had folks from Haiti attend, too. In the meantime loads of 
folks from Haiti "trained" in ost... all of that was woven into the 
community development and educational projects in Haiti.


Have a look at their website, its an example of what happens in one of 
the poorest countries of the world, permanently stricken with natural 
disasters and political turmoil.


Greetings from Berlin
mmp

PS: Romy: I often remember the "ost-training" I attended in Roffey Park 
that you and the Man with the Hat gave, back in 1996. It was my first 
encounter with ost at age 56 then. It did revolutionize my working life 
and more... and keeps on doing so as I keep enchanting myself with the 
forces of selforganisation. Hugs,mmp.


Am 13.06.2019 um 16:37 schrieb Romy Shovelton via OSList:

Eric,

Open Space has been used for /many/ decades in Hawaii - directly with 
the community and in running the amazing organisation that has been 
running the most extraordinary education and other community support. 
John Engle is the absolutely amazing human who has made all this happen.


So sorry to John… I’ve forgotten the name of his organisation in Hawaii. 
There are so many people who will know - including Harrison. I can ask 
others if needed.


Romy
Tyddyn Retreat Mid Wales Venue & Holiday Cottages
+ Wikima Ltd
Wales, UK




Aloha all,
I’m looking for references to a similar situation (more below) where OS 
was the contributing factor of success, in particular to communicate to 
government and community leaders here why OS will get the results they need.
The context is the community engagement piece of recovery efforts from 
the 2018 volcano eruption in Hawaii. I’m consulting with the County 
Recovery Manager, who has been convening other types of gatherings much 
of this year. Now that disaster relief funding is closer to being on the 
ground, the County wants to convene a larger, multi-sector event, to 
encourage development of community-based recovery actions. The County is 
also planning to have a Disaster Recovery Fund setup, which would field 
a competitive process for proposed projects, some of which may have 
convened in the larger event and decided there to collaborate on a proposal.
As with other parts of the recovery effort, this event would be under 
public scrutiny. It may be the largest event they’ve held, and County 
leadership is worried of perceptions and actual results coming from the 
event. In other words, there may be tendencies to have more control over 
the design/outcome of the day, in which case OS wouldn’t be the chosen 
organizing framework, but something else they’re more at ease with or 
accustomed to. I do believe, however, those community-based recovery 
actions are what they want most.
Do you have links or references to similar public sector gatherings 
using OS, under scrutiny, and producing anticipated results satisfactory 
to government and community, that I might share with County leadership?

Mahalo!
~Eric
Eric M. Kapono, CPF
/Advancement Services/
/for Native Nonprofits/
Hilo, Hawaii
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Re: [OSList] Orgs that Failed to Implement Self-Organization?

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Jake and you others,

I am intriguing myself with your quest for pitfalls in regard to 
"implement self-organization".
If it is assumed that "self-organization" is inherent in all groups, 
organisations, systems and in all processes on this planet and in the 
universe and has been since the Big Bang, it would not be necessary to 
"implement self-organization".
In fact, attempting to "implement self-organization" could in itself be 
the pitfall. This would jive with the notion that a sure fire way to 
impede self-organization is to mess with it (that is, control it).


Picking up on what Rob just wrote
"By definition self organisation occurs despite any efforts to make it 
happen."

I suspect that
"Self-organisation is hampered by efforts to make it happen."

I also wonder if it would be helpful to distinguish between 
"self-organization" as we observe it everywhere around us (such as 
children self-organizing their game on a playground or a butterfly 
unfolding from a chrysalis or a break-out group in an os-event 
self-organizing their activities) and the "force of selforganization".


Assuming  that the force of selforganzation is behind self-organization 
it might be useful to focus on the "factors" that would support an 
environment in which the force of selforganization can thrive, unfold...


One of the stories we have is the development of OST itself. OST was 
dreamt up originally as a way to organize a conference in a few hours 
instead of a whole years work (a wonderful gift that was borne out of 
being bored with working hard). After it kept working in various 
settings with a vast minimum of pre-implemented structure, no panels, no 
speakers, only one facilitator... his originator began wondering on why 
it was working.


We know the rest of the story and have payed attention to the 5 or 6 or 
7 prerequisites that now have been tested in thousands of events which 
need to be in place for the "force of selforganisation" to do its thing 
which we then perceive as "self-organization".


Its simple but not easy.
Is not facing that which seduces to twists, adulterations, creating 
surrogate cocktails...?


Greetings from Berlin
mmp




Am 21.06.2019 um 04:04 schrieb Juliane Martina Roell (Structure & 
Process) via OSList:



Jake Yeager via OSList schrieb am 20.06.19 um 19:31:

Hey everyone,

Does anyone know of organizations that attempted to implement 
self-organization but failed? If so, do you know some of the factors 
that contributed to the failure? We hear about the successes, like 
Semco and AES, but rarely about the failures. I'd like to understand 
better what the pitfalls are and also what the success rate is.

Hi Jake,

what do you mean by "implement self-organization"?
How would one go about doing that?

Best Regards,

Juliane.


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www.openspaceworldmap.org

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German, some in English, some as ebooks, some multilingual

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[OSList] Fwd: Re: Orgs that Failed to Implement Self-Organization?

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear LISTige,

after getting his ok I am forwarding this note from David Osborne that 
was meant to reach all of us but only got to my mailbox.

Greetings from Berlin
mmp



Datum:  Fri, 21 Jun 2019 09:32:52 -0400
Von:David Osborne 
An: Michael M Pannwitz 



Michael,

Your email triggered a few thoughts for me.

My thoughts on self-organization are heavily influenced by lunches at 
the Glen Echo Inn with Harrison.  From these lunches, I learned several 
things that I have been practicing and working with for over a decade 
now related to self-organization. The first of which is the premise that 
you and others have shared here that self-organization is happening all 
the time...it's all self-organizing. We don't have to make it happen. 
What happens in Open Space though are that certain conditions are set 
that enable change to emerge ..rather than intractable, complex 
issues with diverse views staying stuck.


One different view I've had with Harrison is that we don't have to do 
anything at all we can just let it all happen. While this is true. 
I've had a human problem, I care. Passion and caring is part of the root 
energy that fuels both open space and self-organization. My caring has 
led me to want to figure out how can we influence the self-organizing 
process to lead to positive change the help whatever the broader 
organism is, group, organization, country, society, etc.


You raise the point about focusing on the"factors" that affect 
self-organization. That is where I've invested my time and energy over 
the past decade and what I've discovered is that while we cannot control 
change or the self-organizing process we can influence the speed and 
direction of change quite dramatically if we focus on and adjust these 
factors.  It's very powerful and I believe the future of change.


best to all,

David

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On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 3:53 AM Michael M Pannwitz > wrote:


Dear Jake and you others,

I am intriguing myself with your quest for pitfalls in regard to
"implement self-organization".
If it is assumed that "self-organization" is inherent in all groups,
organisations, systems and in all processes on this planet and in 
the universe and has been since the Big Bang, it would not be necessary 
to "implement self-organization".
In fact, attempting to "implement self-organization" could in 
itself be the pitfall. This would jive with the notion that a sure fire 
way to

impede self-organization is to mess with it (that is, control it).

Picking up on what Rob just wrote
"By definition self organisation occurs despite any efforts to make it
happen."
I suspect that
"Self-organisation is hampered by efforts to make it happen."

I also wonder if it would be helpful to distinguish between
"self-organization" as we observe it everywhere around us (such as
children self-organizing their game on a playground or a butterfly
unfolding from a chrysalis or a break-out group in an os-event
self-organizing their activities) and the "force of selforganization".

Assuming  that the force of selforganzation is behind self-organization
it might be useful to focus on the "factors" that would support an
environment in which the force of selforganization can thrive, 
unfold...


One of the stories we have is the development of OST itself. OST was
dreamt up originally as a way to organize a conference in a few hours
instead of a whole years work (a wonderful gift that was borne out of
being bored with working hard). After it kept working in various
settings with a vast minimum of pre-implemented structure, no
panels, no
speakers, only one facilitator... his originator began wondering on why
it was working.

We know the rest of the story and have payed attention to the 5 or 6 or
7 prerequisites that now have been tested in thousands of events which
need to be in place for the "force of selforganisation" to do its thing
which we then perceive as "self-organization".

Its simple but not easy.
Is not facing that which seduces to twists, adulterations, creating
surrogate cocktails...?

Greetings from Berlin
mmp




Am 21.06.2019 um 04:04 schrieb Juliane Martina Roell (Structure &
Process) via OSList:
 >
 >
 > Jake Yeager via OSList schrieb am 20.06.19 um 19:31:
 >> Hey everyone,
 >>
 >> Does anyone know of organizations that attempted to implement
 >> self-organization but failed? If so, do you know some of the
factors
 >> that contributed to the failure? We hear about the successes, like
 >> Semco and AES, but rarely about the failures. I'

Re: [OSList] Orgs that Failed to Implement Self-Organization?

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear David,

you are touching basic issues, which I enjoy.
Getting to basic issues fuels a wider dialog.

Yes, self-organizing has been around since the Big Bang, in everything.

And it shows up regurlary and predictably in OST gatherings. Regardless 
of the conditions that are characteristic of any such gathering. And it 
shows up more or less impressively or noticeably in all kinds of 
situations that are in no way OST events: Tahir Place, Playground, New 
York City, Fridays for Future, neighborhood events... and on and on.


If there is a gathering and it is announced that it will have the form 
of an OST event and that promise is not met, selforganizing will happen 
nonetheless and sometimes with high action that can cause the event to 
close. And while it is certain that there will be change (everything 
changes all the time) there is no predicting what kind of change will 
happen or that a particular change will emerge.


If you go at this with the assumption that the influence of the "force 
of selforganization" can be "seen" in the manifestation of what we 
perceive as "selforganizing" in groups, organizations and systems... 
such as a group of small children selforganizing their activities 
without any apparent leadership (parents) or hired facilitators (us) 
having productive fun... it might be worth taking a closer look at that 
"force".
Taking a closer look aint easy because little is really known (in the 
Scientific meaning of "know") about the "force of selforganization". I 
suspect that has to do with the universal nature of the force. A 
characteristic that is not satisfyingly "researchable" with our limited 
abilities and skills.


One way of looking at it which I find useful for the unfolding of 
selforganization is paying attention to some of the prerequisites that 
expand time and space for the "force" to thrive in. Mind you, its there, 
it will unfold. However, it can be hampered... especially observeable in 
groups, organizations and systems that we ourselves have thought up and 
supplied with all sorts of "control" mechanisms.


Harrison has described how he saw the prerequisites that some deep 
thinkers discovered to be prerequisites for the emergence of "life" 
considerable time after the Big Bang also apply for an OST event. His 
quest into this realm was definitely influenced by the "force of 
selforganisation" which, however, had no idea what this would lead to 
(in the sense that we have "ideas").
Ok, he described the "adapted" prerequisites that, when in place, would 
have a positive influence on the chances for the  "force" to get more 
time and space for its play.


In my practice of OST as facilitator, getting the clients ("hosts") to 
check on the prerequisites led to either accepting the contract for an 
OST event or to suggest that they needed something else or to offer ways 
to them to have more of the prerquisites in place. This often resulted 
in changing from "mandated participation" to "voluntary participation" 
with the additional work of producing a real invitation, or expanded 
"diversity of participants" (not only inviting teachers of the school 
but everybody that has to do with the school or is effected by the 
school such as neighbors or financed the school, parents, or works in 
the school or offers experience in his business to students in the 
school).


Other prerequisites that are often mentioned such as high level of 
conflict, complex issue, open question no single person or group has an 
answer to, decision time of yesterday... also need to be checked on by 
the client/sponsor.


As you have noticed, one of the challenges for a facilitator (struggling 
with being totally present and entirely invisible) is meeting ones own 
care and passion while working as a facilitator.
Care and passion, especially when joined by responsibility, powerfully 
move wicked issues into action. Without these elements, little will 
happen in the circle, market place, in the breakout sessions and the 
ensuing action planning. But what actually happens among the 
selforganizing participants is not the playground of facilitators. That 
is best illustrated by the facilitator also disappearing bodily just 
after the marketplace phase... taking a nap. This is a tough number for 
many of us. But it is the acid test. Often not tolerated by sponsors (is 
this what we are paying you for?) and participants (where is your 
responsibility? Dont you see that this is a whole mess?).


From this perspective, care, passion and responsibility seen that way 
get into the way of the work of the facilitator... and the more freely 
unfolding "Force of Selforganization".


This I vaguely realized for the first time during an OT-Conference in 
Higlands, North Carolina (conducted as an OS) when an Indin Shaman, 
invited by HO, offered a session for us one evening to meet our 
ancestors. He sat in the center drumming, all of us sitting on the floor 
around him. After a while he said: "I love yo

[OSList] Fwd: Re: number of breakout groups and 500 folks or more

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Wojtek,

just returned from a week with some of our grandchildren and was offline.

In June, I  sent a note to the LIST (see below) with all the details and 
links to photos etc. for the  event in Würzburg with 2108 participants.
You definintely should acquire the video, it will give you a good 
insight re the many details that one can pay attention to.

What will actually happen in the event is a different story.
The event event in Würzburg in southern Germany was not in circus tents, 
of course, but in beer tents, rectangular and huge. In fact, so spacious 
that a truck laden with icecream creations could drive into one of the 
tents one evening before the os-gathering as part of the larger 
conference (several thousand participants) and another one with 1000 
percussion instruments for the participants to have monstrous drumming 
sessions.


If you feel like calling me, July 11 or 12 would suit me.
For contact details see my worldmap entry

https://www.openspaceworldmap.org/worker/michael-m-pannwitz


Not seeing you in the world map you are invited to include yourself

https://www.openspaceworldmap.org/inclusion


cheers
mmp


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Betreff: Re: [OSList] number of breakout groups
Datum: Thu, 6 Jun 2019 01:10:14 +0200
Von: Michael M Pannwitz 
An: Harrison Owen via OSList , 
lpal...@yahoo.com, Holman, Peggy S. , 
jlhur...@hfadesign.com


Erich Kolenaty created a photo presentation on the one day OST event in 
Würzburg/Germany (2013) that HO mentioned with 2108 participants.
232 issues were presented and dealt with in 3 phases (starting times at 
10:15, 11:45 and 13:45)  which meant 77 breakout spaces. Many of the 
breakout spaces were set up by the participants... look here

https://www.transformation.at/documents/OS_Wuerzburg_minimized.pdf


There is also a 78 minute film on this event, including the English and 
German version of the introduction by HO and mmp,  interviews with 
participants, facilitators and sponsor, available here

https://www.steinhardt-verlag-shop.de/epages/61415289.sf/de_DE/?ObjectID=2386608


If Peggys rule of thumb would have been applied (20% of the people post 
issues in large groups) there should have been 421 issues. At the 
Würzburg event nobody imagined 232 issues. But 232 issues were easily 
dealt with by the 2108... the only explanation I have for that is the 
magic of the force of selforganisation.l


The rule of thumb mentioned in the "mini spec" that Robin Muretisch 
posted "... 3 out of 10 participants will post a session" would have 
meant 632 issues in Würzburg.


So much to the rules of thumb.

My experience is that the number of issues posted is not only a factor 
of the number of folks attending but also has to do with the length of 
the event.
With smaller groups the number of issues can be the same as the number 
of participants and even more if it is a "regular" 2,5 day OST event 
where additional issues are posted during the event.
Another factor is that participants vary greatly in the number of issues 
each participant offers. In some cases there will be participants that 
offer 2 to 10 issues and others dont offer any.


The ressource that Lori Palano remembered to have seen was a graph with 
two parameters (number of participants and number of issues) that was 
prepared by someone in the team that set up the event with 2108 
participants.
Basically, it showed a curve that rose steeply and then tapered off to 
almost a straight line... meaning that in general the number of issues 
rose inversely to the number of participants, or, the larger the group 
the smaller the number of issues per participant.


I am sure someone among us has that graph buried in a file.

I wonder what additional parameters other than than number of 
participants and length of the event would have to be considered for a 
more reliable tool to predict the number of issues to be expected at an 
OST event.


Greetings from Berlin
mmp


Am 05.06.2019 um 17:37 schrieb Harrison Owen via OSList:
And then there was the time when Michael Pannwitz and I had 2108 
participants… And I think we ended up with 175 Groups. We grossly 
under-estimated (75) – but fortunately you can add groups as  many as 
you need. The People are always right, and they will claim the space 
they need. Facilitators are only guessing – and then just get out of the 
way J


Harrison

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Of *Lori Palano via OSList

*Sent:* Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:51 AM
*To:* oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
*Cc:* Lori Palano
*Subject:* [OSList] number of breakout groups

Hello all

A number of years ago I seem to remember a resource shared on this list 
that calculated an average number of breakout groups that tended to show 
up according to the total number of participants based on the cumulated 
experience of this community. Does this ring a bell with anyone? I think 
it was an excel sheet. I'd like to find it again, but 

Re: [OSList] Creative New Jersey in OST

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Love it. Invite them to the WOSonOS near DC this October!
cheers
mmp

Am 11.07.2019 um 21:39 schrieb Jeff Aitken via OSList:
I enjoy following the work of Creative New Jersey, utilizing OST in 
civic collaborations.


https://www.civicstory.org/civics-blog/2019/6/11/the-sights-and-sounds-of-collaboration-in-newark

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Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Marai,

looking forward to your short stories!

I was not in Nova Scotia but here is the link to all WOSonOSes

https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/osonos/


It seems that the first 4 were in Washington DC.
By my reckoning that means the first was in
1 - 1993
2 - 1994
3 - 1995
4 - 1996
5 - 1997 this one I rememer, it was my first one to attend, Larry and 
Birgitt invited to Toronto
6 - 1998 Monterey, I was there. Until then the gatherings were named 
OSonOS, at the Pacific we realized that the right name would be 
"Worldwide Open Space on Open Space" and some folks at that time had the 
idea to have some kind of Worldwide Open Space Institute that would be 
registered at the United Nations as a global NGO.
7 - 1999 Chicago, where Harrison simply said, lets have it in Berlin 
next year

8 - 2000 Berlin
and the rest you can see in the list up to
26 - 2018 Iceland
27 - 2019 Washingto DC (ok, that would be the 5th in DC)
28 - 2020 Berlin (that will be the third in Berlin)

Halifax has also a perfect set of proceedings, a list of all 
participants included... just looking at it its more than 100, you 
count, the countries of origin of participants are also mentioned.


hugs
mmp

Am 14.07.2019 um 13:07 schrieb Marai Kiele via OSList:

Hey folks,

I am writing a short story about my experience at WOSonOS 2005 in Nova Scotia. 
This will likely be published as a contribution to a short stories book.

It was my first and life-changing experience with collective sense making (the 
way the location for the next WOSonOS was chosen, or rather: how it became 
obvious to the group).

I have the session reports from back then, but what I am missing are numbers 
like:

- How many participants were we?
- From approximately how many countries?

And then the questions that probably have been asked many times before.
Yet I still couldn’t find the „right“ answer:

- Since when does WOSonOS exist?
- In which locations / or in how many locations has it taken place up 
to this year?

Thanks a lot in advance!
Marai

https://about.me/maraikiele

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Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember

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Dear Peggy,

If you dig into the proceedings you will find a list of participants on 
the pages 77, 78 and 79 pretty close to the last page.


At the very end there are some fancy charts on reporting in detail on 
OSI USA activities.


You included a fancy report with colored charts in report nr 38
on The Dynamics of Conscious Emergence. There were about 25 folks in 
that session, from Sweden, Austria, USA, Canada, UK, Turkey...


Many reports contain cross references and links.
The whole thing is a treausure chest.
Including a group poem shared in the closing circle produced by a 
worldwide group of about 25 folks from Turkey to Haiti and so on.


Greetings from Berlin
mmp


AYm 14.07.2019 um 15:48 schrieb Peggy Holman via OSList:

I remember that closing circle!

You’ll find some of your answers on this page listing all of the WOSONOS 
gatherings.

https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/osonos/

The Halifax proceedings are posted but I don’t see a count of people or 
countries. Harrison’s suggestion of searching the archives might work to 
find that information.


Peggy Holman
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Hey folks,

I am writing a short story about my experience at WOSonOS 2005 in Nova 
Scotia. This will likely be published as a contribution to a short 
stories book.


It was my first and life-changing experience with collective sense 
making (the way the location for the next WOSonOS was chosen, or 
rather: how it became obvious to the group).


I have the session reports from back then, but what I am missing are 
numbers like:


   - How many participants were we?
   - From approximately how many countries?

And then the questions that probably have been asked many times before.
Yet I still couldn’t find the „right“ answer:

   - Since when does WOSonOS exist?
   - In which locations / or in how many locations has it taken place 
up to this year?


Thanks a lot in advance!
Marai

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Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 99, Issue 16

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Mark,

had a good laughing attack, reading your message.

The approach I have developed to improve on the role and task of the 
"leader" goes like this:


1. Contact:
I get a call from someone, not necessarily the "leader", sometimes a 
person from the OD department of the organization requesting an OST 
event. This professional person, as anyone else, can really have a 
number of assumptions about the organization she or he works for. After 
listening for a very short while (since I dont want to get confused) I 
suggest my standard procedure, a contact meeting with those that decide 
on this event.


2. Contact meeting face-to-face, never online or similar stuff:
Usually three or four or five people (I suggested to the first caller 
that it should be a bit of a diverse small group) gather for this 
contact meeting which lasts exactly 1 hour and maybe 15 minutes. For 
this meeting I dont charge anything regardless of the outcome. The 
potential client simply pays the costs (if I have to fly to Paris and 
spend a night there which happened in the early stage of the 300 leaders 
with Muslims, Jews and Christians engaged in World Peace in Sevilla (HO 
facilitated, I helped).)
In this meeting I suggest the present folks have an exchange on what the 
gathering is planned for (usually there is a pretty divergent response 
but the central issue becomes clearer).
After that I tell them about the 5 or 6 prerequites for an OST event and 
have them exchange on those.
At the end I also ask them how aware they are about the role of leaders 
after an OST event in face of the fact that participants start to lead 
themselves. Oh, yes, they exclaim, thats what we would love. Hmmm. I 
also add that nobody from the organization should make any promises in 
regard to the potential actions that people will engage in after the 
event. Them then also leading will know what kind of support they need 
and how to get it.

Before leaveing I tell them to sleep over all this and give me a ring.
If they call me and if I have a hunch that it will all work out, the 
third step is the :


3. Planning Meeting (preparatory meeting):
A group of 8 to 35 people (thats the range I have experienced in my 
career of working with OST) that the "leaders" selected, mirroring 
approximately the expected participants, meet for exactly 3.5 hours to
- exchange their expectations re the outcome (Thinking of the first 
working day after the event, what has changed?)
- develope the overall theme (in four steps: everyone for himself 
followed by random small groups to come to one theme, followed by a 
quick round of weighing the various themes, a round of three or four 
that want to come to a final suggestion (in fishbowl with the rest of 
the group watching, one empty chair for folks watching to come in and 
make a suggestion and immeditately leaving the chair again) and fourth 
an exchange of all to see whether the theme is it
- a brainstorming on who all needs to be invited to the event to 
actually work successfully on action that would carry the expectations 
forward under the chosen overall theme... usually a long list pops up 
which is reduced by a quick check on whether concrete people are behind 
the suggestions. For instance if someone says "The press" it will not 
count unless someone comes up with a particular organ or best a 
particular person...). The list is then checked on once more by 
identifying who is essential. If it turns out that someone mentioned as 
"essential" will definitely not come (for whatever reason) I suggest 
that then expectations have to be reduced or the overall Theme changed. 
That can lead to more clarifications and strenghens the common ground.
- produce a list of stuff that needs to be worked on and who will be in 
charge of that for each item, such as producting an invitation, 
designing different invitation procedures for different target groups 
(some will need an letter, others a letter and a phone call, some you 
have to go and see, etc.)


Shortly before the end of the Planning Meeting I ask folks to sit in a 
closing circle and briefly state what they experienced in the last 3.5 
hours. Amazing stuff will surface such as: I came doubting this would 
make any sense, now I am on fire and have taken charge of finding a 
venue... I have been working as an executive for 20 years and never had 
a more productive and fun gathering... we have developed into a real 
group even though several of you I never met before...
(in other words this group together with the "leader" is now leading and 
spreading the word about the event in their system.)


This kind of approach has always worked also because the formal 
"leaders" were present and even though it was not done in "OST" nothing 
happened in the 3.5 hours that was not what those present worked and 
decided on.


There was, however, one event that I was asked to faciliate a year after 
a massacre in a school in a town south of Berlin, where the folks of the 
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Re: [OSList] OSlist

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Gijs,

follow the instructions you see below. It might be best for you to 
unsubscribe first  and then subscribe again with the email you use in 
your World Map entry, just to be congruent

https://www.openspaceworldmap.org/worker/gijs-van-wezel


Greetings from Berlin
mmp

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Re: [OSList] Open Space in Prison

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Yes Chris, it is an amazing success.
Exactly what I would expect.
But still amazing.

By the way, a search in the LIST archives reveals that Birgit, then 
Bolton, has an entry in 1998 and you responded to it a week later... and 
Lisa Heft has an entry in 2005 that started a string...

In all there are 415 matches.

Keep it going.
mmp

Am 02.08.2019 um 05:09 schrieb Chris Kloth via OSList:
This week I have been doing some work with Adam Foss and his Prosecutor 
Impact program in Columbus, Ohio. USA. (See link below)


As part of this two week program we took 40+ prosecutors to Marion 
Correctional Institution for the day. Most had never been in a prison. 
Without going into the details, a group of 12 inmates organized a day of 
activities to provide the prosecutors to explore what it might mean to 
re-imagine the roles of prosecutors on the criminal justice system in 
the US and in Ohio.


We entered a very large chapel in the prison and discovered a very large 
circle of chairs. Imagine my surprise when Wayne, a lifer, said that 
while he had been inside he had learned about a process called Open 
Space Technology and entered into a brief review of the Principles and 
the Law! He sent markers around the circle, explaining that they were 
serving as both a talking sticks and ways to identify topics... an 
approach that accommodated the security concerns reflected in prison 
policies.


Purists might raise a number of questions about how the process was 
planned and executed, but if the essence is opening space for people to 
organize themselves to have several rounds of dialogue within the 
Principles and the Laws... I call it an amazing success. If inmates and 
prosecutors crying and embracing as part of the closing circle... I call 
it an amazing success.


Before we left I asked Wayne how he learned about OST. He said he found 
this "old green book" in the prison library!


I have been blessed to have experienced and convened many OST 
experiences that left me feeling deeply touched, but I suspect this 
session will always live deep  in my heart as one of the most profound!



https://www.ted.com/talks/adam_foss_a_prosecutor_s_vision_for_a_better_justice_system/discussion 






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Re: [OSList] Open Space in Prison

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

hits?
Them is what I got when entering "prison" in the search field of the 
OSLIST Archives.

mmp

Am 02.08.2019 um 07:57 schrieb Michael Herman:

matches, mmp?

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On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 11:55 PM Michael M Pannwitz via OSList 
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
wrote:


Yes Chris, it is an amazing success.
Exactly what I would expect.
But still amazing.

By the way, a search in the LIST archives reveals that Birgit, then
Bolton, has an entry in 1998 and you responded to it a week later...
and
Lisa Heft has an entry in 2005 that started a string...
In all there are 415 matches.

Keep it going.
mmp

Am 02.08.2019 um 05:09 schrieb Chris Kloth via OSList:
 > This week I have been doing some work with Adam Foss and his
Prosecutor
 > Impact program in Columbus, Ohio. USA. (See link below)
 >
 > As part of this two week program we took 40+ prosecutors to Marion
 > Correctional Institution for the day. Most had never been in a
prison.
 > Without going into the details, a group of 12 inmates organized a
day of
 > activities to provide the prosecutors to explore what it might
mean to
 > re-imagine the roles of prosecutors on the criminal justice
system in
 > the US and in Ohio.
 >
 > We entered a very large chapel in the prison and discovered a
very large
 > circle of chairs. Imagine my surprise when Wayne, a lifer, said that
 > while he had been inside he had learned about a process called Open
 > Space Technology and entered into a brief review of the
Principles and
 > the Law! He sent markers around the circle, explaining that they
were
 > serving as both a talking sticks and ways to identify topics... an
 > approach that accommodated the security concerns reflected in prison
 > policies.
 >
 > Purists might raise a number of questions about how the process was
 > planned and executed, but if the essence is opening space for
people to
 > organize themselves to have several rounds of dialogue within the
 > Principles and the Laws... I call it an amazing success. If
inmates and
 > prosecutors crying and embracing as part of the closing circle...
I call
 > it an amazing success.
 >
 > Before we left I asked Wayne how he learned about OST. He said he
found
 > this "old green book" in the prison library!
 >
 > I have been blessed to have experienced and convened many OST
 > experiences that left me feeling deeply touched, but I suspect this
 > session will always live deep  in my heart as one of the most
profound!
 >
 >
 >

https://www.ted.com/talks/adam_foss_a_prosecutor_s_vision_for_a_better_justice_system/discussion

 >
 >
 >

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Re: [OSList] Trello Boards & Open Space

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

There is a string in the OSLIST archives if you enter Trello Boards in 
the Search field.

Here is one note by Paul Nunesda of 6 years ago

https://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org/msg34227.html


mmp

Am 13.08.2019 um 22:57 schrieb Tony Budak via OSList:
Tony Budak, Tom Brown, and Barry Owen were hanging out on the OS Hotline 
today, and the conversation was rambling (as usual)  We wondered about 
using TRELLO as the "Bulletin Board" for an ongoing event with 
participants in a variety of locations. Has anyone done this? If so, is 
there a "Template" for a Trello Board out there somewhere? Just an 
attempt not recreate a wheel that's already been created?


Here's a little background about how we got to where we are. Tony has a 
community group that we think has great potential for "scaling" quickly 
similarly to the short story below:


I Barry) once facilitated an OS Meeting with a group of MBA students. I 
opened the space during their normal class period, and we had enough 
time for 1 round of sessions. When we created the bulletin Board, we 
imagined that the event were a 3 day meeting - 50 students posted 45 
sessions. When the class ended, the students self-organized to convene 
ALL of the sessions in coffee shops, student center, etc. The results 
were cataclysmic because their proceedings were not pleasing to the 
college administrators. I was not asked to do the following semester, 
but I DID learn (again) that Open Space always works.


1- Please share and tell us about any _hosting_ examples (drafts, 
templates or public) of Trello Boards, https://trello.com/home 
 using Open Space Tech?
2- And share if you know about a Trello Board explaining Open Space 
Tech  as  in "to do, doing, done" with OST as the Board content, empty 
process only?


  PS - If you haven't tuned in to the weekly OS Hotline, chime in some 
time . . . It's always been worth the time invested for me


Barry Owen and Tony Budak

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Re: [OSList] Trello Boards & Open Space

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Looking at the invitation to share, I share the "Task Cards for Setting 
up an Open Space event" (first published in 2006 with 6 editions, the 
latest in 2013), structured in 3 stages: "To do!", "In progress!" and 
"Done!".
It provides Task Cards for three stages of an OST event (41 in yellow 
for setting up, 18 in blue for the time the OST is running and 10 in 
green for the Outlook and Action Planning phase.)
The sixth edition of the  2013 edition "set" comes with a two page "A 
User's Guide" (all editions were published both in English and German, 
some other language versions appeared in Chinese, Polish, Ukrainian, 
Dutch...).


This does not "explain" OST. It allows for an "experience" for those 
that set up an OST event (usually 3 or a few more, depending on the size 
of the event, in Würzburg with 2000+ participants we were 12).
Even if none of such a group know much or nothing about OST they can 
selforganize their work in setting up the event effectively, having fun.


Greetings from Berlin
mmp


Am 14.08.2019 um 05:07 schrieb Tony Budak via OSList:
2- And share if you know about a Trello Board explaining Open Space 
Tech  as  in "to do, doing, done" with OST as the Board content, empty 
process only?


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Re: [OSList] Why CERTIFICATION makes sense considering this conversation on Mission, Vision Strategy Plans, etc.

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Karl,

thanks for your note and especially the third paragraph:
"Certification becomes necessary I guess when you need to commodify."
This points to another perspective around our issue at hand.

Allow me to add the link to "commodification" in wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodification


In addition I quote the first 5 sentences at the beginning of the 
wikipedia entry:
"Within a capitalist economic system, Commodification is the 
transformation of goods, services, ideas and people into commodities or 
objects of trade. A commodity at its most basic, according to Arjun 
Appadurai, is "anything intended for exchange," or any object of 
economic value.[1]


Commodification is often criticised on the grounds that some things 
ought not to be treated as commodities—for example water, education, 
data, information, knowledge, human life, and animal life.[2][3]


According to Gøsta Esping-Andersen people are commodified or 'turned 
into objects' when selling their labour on the market to an employer.[4] 
Slavery is a form of the commodification of people."


In the last couple of years I busied myself investigating the Dialogue 
according to David Bohm. One central element in that form of dialogue is 
to become aware or more aware of ones own assumptions and of the 
assumptions of others. Its a tough exercise for me. Especially when I 
follow Bohms suggestion, to sort of holding an assumption in front of 
you and study it, try to find its source.

This has helped me with my assumptions about "certification".

Have a great day
mmp




Am 15.08.2019 um 11:35 schrieb Royle, Karl via OSList:

On certification…

As an educator of many years… there are purposes for certification. 
These mainly sit around competency to perform certain services… 
paramedics, medical doctors etc. They provide entry to a guild of sorts 
and tell people, in theory, that I’m not dangerous.


Open space, I think, is a little different as it’s a human good rather 
than a commodity or a service that any human being could pick up and 
use. Clearly, there is expertise involved in facilitating that is grown 
over several years’ experience and I guess people never stop learning 
because by their very nature each event is different.  However, 
essentially, any community could use open space.


Certification becomes necessary I guess when you need to commodify.

Varoufakis notes: “/A dive, a sunset, a joke: all can have an enormous 
amount of experiential value and no exchange value whatsoever.” 
“Anything without a price, anything that can’t be sold, tends to be 
considered worthless, whereas anything with a price, it is thought, will 
be desirable.”/


I have several agile certifications and several teaching ones. These 
don’t necessarily make me a great practitioner of either that comes 
through review from participants and reflection and improvement each 
time on my part. One thing I do know is that using OST is always an 
adventure an a bit of a leap of faith for the person/people who want to 
use it. The technique or framework just works and works well and I have 
a few ideas for why it does but we all have those.


Finally…. A few words from McLuhan..

*Someday, all of us will spend our lives in our own school, the world. 
And education –in the sense of learning to love, to grow, to change– can 
become not the woeful preparation for some job that makes us less than 
we could be but the very essence, the joyful whole of existence itself. 
**FULL CITATION: McLuhan, M., & Leonard, G. B. (1967). The future of 
education: The class of 1989. /Look, February 21/, 23-24. Online Source 
http://learningspaces.org/files/mcluhanfs.html *


I think OST supports this notion.

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*Date: *Wednesday, 14 August 2019 at 23:16
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*Cc: *Bhavesh Patel , Mark Carmel 

*Subject: *Re: [OSList] Why CERTIFICATION makes sense considering this 
conversation on Mission, Vision Strategy Plans, etc.


Hey Mark,

If you have passion for that, and in your freedom you want to take 
responsibility for that, then please do what ever you feel called to 
do... and the results will speak for themselves. None of us can control 
the space for you. And one thing is for sure, we will learn from your 
experiments...


Smiles Bhav...

On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 at 18:18, Mark Carmel via OSList 
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
wrote:


Fascinating conversation. This is exactly why we need a
certification-like program and an organizational structure for the
future if we want to train people in the finer points of sustaining
open space interventions over time as Chris has done. There is a lot
more to it than just throwing out an invitation and opening up the
market place. It is interesting to me that from the most seasoned
open space masters the idea was instantly shot down, saying.

Re: [OSList] Why CERTIFICATION makes sense considering this conversation on Mission, Vision Strategy Plans, etc.

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

It would not surprise me if Jesus had come to the conclusion that all 
organizations created by man are the work of the devil.


That could then have held him back from founding an institute certifying 
his first followers.


Greetings from Berlin where I mulled over all the certification 
organizations that I encountered in my life. They all contributed to the 
ossification of their victims and made a lot of money.


But then, wait a minute, I do remember taking part in  a training for OD 
consultants and parish consultants back in the seventies of the last 
century in the last millenium.
Folks attending were invited for a final day of certification after the 
training concluded (very complex training, including 5 ten day training 
sessions over 2 years, regional groups for gatherings between the blocks 
and prescribed hours of supervision by especially trained supervisors 
that were certified, of course, none other were accepted).


Now, the invitation to get certified was offered to all of us.
Some needed a certification to work with their skills in their 
organizations.

Others did not. I was one of them. Actually, there were 5 of us.
At first we felt it nice to have a free day.
But, I dont know how that came about but from my present stage of 
looking at stuff I am sure it was the Force of Selforganization that got 
us thinking about all 5 of us certifying each and all of the others, 
including oneself. Only if they passed the certification, of course.
So we set out to come up with a process. We did this in open space (had 
not shown its vicious head yet in 1975) and had a wonderful time. We 
actually drew up a certification document and got two of the training 
staff to put their signature to it along with those of us five. This 
made it look gorgeous. I still have it. Its in German. I could dig it up 
in my archives if any of you would like to get a copy.
As we 5 heard later, our collegial certification was enormously tougher 
than that offered by the training institute.


Have a great day wherever you are
mmp

Am 16.08.2019 um 19:45 schrieb Marai Kiele via OSList:



Am 14.08.2019 um 18:42 schrieb Mark Carmel via OSList 
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>:


Chris, thank you for your response.  However, an Empire is defined as 
an authoritarian organization of countries, or people, under single 
rule like the Roman empire. The chuch's first rule of becoming 
certified as high priest is that women are not allowed In.  We see how 
that worked out... That is not OS and is not what I recommend. So 
please do not misunderstand my intent. I am not calling for empire 
building or authoritarianism, but calling for organization of an 
Educational Institute to train and educate those who facilitate OST in 
the world of empire building WE all live in. If we leave it to mother 
nature to do it out of Spirit alone we could be waiting another 4,000 
years.  How to prepare facilitators and participants to face the 
inevitable pushback from their own leaders (like now) or from leaders 
of empires once raw honesty is put out there is an advanced skill 
set.  One that will help or hurt outcomes. Chris, you are spot on to 
invoke the Devil. Because the Devil always attacks honesty that 
exposes the hidden, dishonest agendas of leaders who proudly open 
space only to crush those who are Too honest for their liking. Therein 
lies a significant learning moment to train facilitators in the 
ability to discern authenticity in the leadership before engaging. 
Dishonesty has become the new trend in management and leadership. Just 
look at the state of American politics and media coverage of it. The 
number one contraindiction as HO aptly defines it, in my experience is 
dishonest leadership. This must be discerned first, as only one of the 
teaching lessons for all future facilitators. Otherwise good, honest 
participants and their facilitators are given up to the devilish 
empire builders you describe.  Especially in the great

US of A democracy that has become Retaliation Nation.
Thanks again Chris!
Miss you having not seen you since Dulles.
Peace!
MC

On Wed, Aug 14, 2019, 10:05 AM Chris Corrigan 
mailto:chris.corri...@gmail.com>> wrote:


You do realize that Jesus never certified practitioners of
Christianity, right? And that subsequent attempts to do so
basically created a toxic blending of Church and Empire that
contributed to mass amounts of suffering through incredibly toxic
and psychopathic uses of power and control for most of the last
1700 years?

And I say that as a Christian who works with churches.

Mark, just open space.  That’s what the world wants more of. It
does not want or need more  people running around saying they are
certified to open space.  It truly doesn’t care. Your credentials
mean nothing if you aren’t actually opening space.  And if you are
opening space, no one will care what your credentials are.  The
best OST meetings I’ve ever been a