RE: accessible digital recorder with editing

2017-11-10 Thread Steve Jacobson
If this has been covered, I apologize in advance.  I know the Zoom makes very 
nice recordings at a great price, and I also have seen blind people using them 
effectively.  If price is not a primary consideration, do any of the more 
accessible recorders make recordings that are as high in quality?  In other 
words, what makes it worth giving up more accessible menus?

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 11:13 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: accessible digital recorder with editing

No, the H1 doesn't have a Pre-record buffer but i'm sure some of the 
other Zoom models do.

The H1 for waht it is presents a very basic audio recorder designed to 
do a job and do it very well, record audio at a very bargain basement 
price though there's nothing bargain basement about the recordings 
theZoom H1 makes.



On 11/10/2017 11:43 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
> I could be wrong but I believe the H1 has pre record too. I'll have to 
> re listen to Neal's podcast. By the way for the person who started 
> this thread define accessable. These recorders are cirtainly usable as 
> Neal and Dain and others use them. But you must be able to deal with 
> remembering menus remembering where you are at what time, and deal 
> with the fact that there's no sound period at all. I just bring this 
> up cause I sometimes turn off the beeps on my LS-14 i almost said 100. 
> I wish I had a 100. But anyways I turn off the beeps on the 14 and I 
> sometimes can get thrown off by not hearing anything. I guess in a 
> sence I've been spoiled by using stuff like a Plextalk most of the 
> time. So yeah let's not forget what 1 person calls accessible may not 
> be to someone else.
>
>
> On 11/9/2017 3:23 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> The whole point of these digital recorders is to “Record” audio and 
>> then use with a computer afterwards if necessary for editing, 
>> organisation, tweaking of Audio characteristics and so on.
>> All the recorders I have - Zoom H1, Sony PCM-d50 and Olympus DM4 - 
>> have capabilities to create new files on the fly or mark positions 
>> within the file at the push of a button.
>> As far as I know the PCM-d50 is the only recorder I own with the 
>> “Pre-Record Buffer” which is dead handy when you’re making live 
>> recordings, never miss a thing!
>> Good luck if you can find a Sony PCM-d50 . And if you do find 
>> one then you’ve certainly struck gold!
>>
>>
>> **
>> “For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s 
>> you put in the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 9 Nov 2017, at 11:49 pm, Fanus  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Dane & list
>>> Does one get an accessible digital recorder with editing 
>>> capabilities. A friend of mine is a member of a choir. The choir 
>>> master records the songs for her but everytime she makes a mistake 
>>> she must start from scratch resulting in the creation of a new 
>>> file.  They are looking for a recorder which allows for stopping the 
>>> recording and rewind to just before the error and then resume. Does 
>>> one get such a recorder? I suppose it could be handy for lawyers and 
>>> doctors.
>>> Regards
>>> Fanus
>
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Sound Forge Requiring Administrator

2017-08-18 Thread Steve Jacobson
I have not been able to receive messages for a while from this list so
apologize in advance if this has come up recently.  After upgrading to
Windows 10, I can only run Sound Forge 11 as administrator.  When I do not
do that, I get a dialog asking me to register, but when I press "NEXT" it
seems to just disappear.  This did not happen immediately after my upgrade,
but this started happening several weeks after my upgrade to Windows 10.

Has anybody found a way to fix this?  Running as administrator works, but I
would like to get back to being able to run it normally.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson





RE: Adobe Audition

2017-06-10 Thread Steve Jacobson
Dave,

It would be nice if we get someone with current information, but I can provide 
a little.  Starting with version 3 of Adobe Audition, they began displaying 
some data on the screen using a method that is generally not picked up by 
screen readers.  I used Audition a lot before that version but switched to 
Sound Forge.  However, it is my understanding that they have done a pretty good 
job over time of making data that is not picked up by screen readers available 
through MSAA and UIA.  While this is very good, it generally means that one 
probably will have to get scripts to get at this information.  It is my 
understanding that there are JAWS scripts but they may not be free.  The bottom 
line is that Adobe Audition is probably worth checking out to see if you can do 
what you need to do with it, but the experience may be somewhat different than 
with sound forge.  

I would be very curious to know what you are required to do with Adobe Audition 
that you can't do with Sound Forge.  There were things I felt were easier to do 
with Audition, and I still sometimes get a little frustrated with selecting 
portions of a file with Sound Forge and wonder if I should check out Audition 
again.  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dave 
Marthouse
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 12:35 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Adobe Audition

I have been a SoundeForge user since the early 2000's and am extremely 
satisfied with the product.  However, I may have a specific requirement 
for Adobe Audition  in the future.


Does anyone on this list use that app and if so is the accessibility good?


Any information would be appreciated.





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RE: Issues with Mic Echo

2017-04-21 Thread Steve Jacobson
Danny,

I listened with headphones thinking that would be the best way to detect a 
subtle echo.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Danny Miles
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 11:00 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Issues with Mic Echo

Hi Steve.  Thank you for taking the time to listen and respond.

I'm afraid I wasn't given any more info on the issue but I was
surprised that such an issue was raised.  Out of interest, did you
listen with or without headphones (or both)?

Many thanks - take care.

Danny



On 4/21/17, Steve Jacobson  wrote:
> Danny,
>
> I listened to the attached file and did not hear any echo nor did I observe
> any noticeable popping.  In particular, I noticed the letter "P" in the word
> "example" and that seemed to have been handled fine.  I wonder what sort of
> echo was observed?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Danny
> Miles
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 2:42 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Issues with Mic Echo
>
> Hi everyone.  Apologies if this post strays off-topic - I believe it's
> relevant to the list so I've put it here but I guess it might be
> debatable.
>
> I've been setting up to work in audiobook narration and I recently
> made a demo recording.  One of the bits of feedback that I got
> suggested that there was echo on the recording, even though I
> deliberately purchased the Fame Mic Reflexion Screen Pro Set to
> prevent this from happening.  Also, despite using a wind screen (pop
> shield), there are occasional popping sounds.
>
> Personally, although I can hear the pops, I can't tell that there is
> any echo, but this may be because my ears simply aren't finely tuned.
> I'd be grateful if anyone who has the time and inclination could
> please listen to the file and tell me whether or not there appears to
> be echo and how I might be able to correct issues with both the echo
> and the popping ... bearing in mind that I'm using products to reduce
> both (perhaps there are positional issues or something else?).
> Additionally, although I know it's not an audio-related question
> related to this list, if anyone would be kind enough to give feedback
> on the quality (or lack of quality) of the narration itself that would
> also be much appreciated.
>
> If anyone is happy to assist, the file can be found at
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/mjfsty22x0sz1wv/Danny%20Miles%20-%20How%20To%20Exercise.mp3?dl=0
>
> Many thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Take care, Danny
>
>
>
> --
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>
>
>
>


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RE: Issues with Mic Echo

2017-04-21 Thread Steve Jacobson
Danny,

I listened to the attached file and did not hear any echo nor did I observe any 
noticeable popping.  In particular, I noticed the letter "P" in the word 
"example" and that seemed to have been handled fine.  I wonder what sort of 
echo was observed?

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Danny Miles
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 2:42 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Issues with Mic Echo

Hi everyone.  Apologies if this post strays off-topic - I believe it's
relevant to the list so I've put it here but I guess it might be
debatable.

I've been setting up to work in audiobook narration and I recently
made a demo recording.  One of the bits of feedback that I got
suggested that there was echo on the recording, even though I
deliberately purchased the Fame Mic Reflexion Screen Pro Set to
prevent this from happening.  Also, despite using a wind screen (pop
shield), there are occasional popping sounds.

Personally, although I can hear the pops, I can't tell that there is
any echo, but this may be because my ears simply aren't finely tuned.
I'd be grateful if anyone who has the time and inclination could
please listen to the file and tell me whether or not there appears to
be echo and how I might be able to correct issues with both the echo
and the popping ... bearing in mind that I'm using products to reduce
both (perhaps there are positional issues or something else?).
Additionally, although I know it's not an audio-related question
related to this list, if anyone would be kind enough to give feedback
on the quality (or lack of quality) of the narration itself that would
also be much appreciated.

If anyone is happy to assist, the file can be found at
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mjfsty22x0sz1wv/Danny%20Miles%20-%20How%20To%20Exercise.mp3?dl=0

Many thanks in advance for any help.

Take care, Danny



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Email:
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RE: You're So Glad You're Living In The USA!

2016-12-19 Thread Steve Jacobson
Dane,

Have you seen anything on the release of their HD component tuner?

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:26 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: You're So Glad You're Living In The USA!

And you have every reason to be glad - if you like radio that is -.

Tomorrow sees the long awaited release of the Sangean HDR16 HD Stereo 
Portable radio.

I don't have details on this radio at present but I certainly will have 
shortly as a friend of mine will be paying a visit to a retailer to pick 
one up so it won't be long till Universal Radio start stocking them and 
we start seeing reviews.

All i can say is - if its a Sangean product - then we're sure to see 
something good and worth having.

So now we know why Donald Trump spoke to the President of Tiawan, he 
wanted to be sure that the good quality radio sets from Sangean kept 
flowing to the US, Sangean is a Taiwanese company just in case you 
didn't know and they've been in the business of making radio sets and 
other communications equipment since 1974.








RE: Sanjean 909X

2016-12-02 Thread Steve Jacobson
Casey,

Medium Wave is how most of the world refers to what we call the AM band here in 
North America.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Casey
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 6:07 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Sanjean 909X

hi you told us how the medium wave and shortwave is on the telescopic 
antenna.
So how is the F.M  on the antenna that comes with the radio?
And how is the A.m band on the radio not the shortwave band the A.M band 
is that just as good and sensitive as a lot of radio or better?


-- 
Casey






RE: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced

2016-09-08 Thread Steve Jacobson
Was it specified whether there is still a lightning connector, or is charging 
done wirelessly as well?  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:04 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
Subject: RE: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced

To be honest I don't really much care. Other than the fact that oh so now what? 
What of the analog head phones I have? But I for 1 wanna cut the cord anyways. 
Wires are annoying. They tangel they can break and so on. So what evs.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of John Gurd
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 5:39 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
Subject: RE: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced

Ah, but now with the removal of the 3.5mm jack you'll be able to listen 
underwater... (smiles)

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JOHN RIEHL
Sent: 08 September 2016 01:52
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced

Actually, there's a difference between "whining" and legitimate complaints 
about a feature that one values that is now lost. If I were gaining something 
substantial by losing the headphone jack I'd feel better about it, but I'm 
losing a substantial capability -- the ability to use headphones and charge my 
phone at the same time. As I said, I take train trips lasting several hours and 
listen to books, etc, while charging my phone. 

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 8:38 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced

Whilst I don�t travel on planes I do have a hearing impairment -a profound one 
at that - thus I believe I�m in a position to comment as I have done.
There are ways around the charging problem  as you put it, I�ve seen cases 
already that have one or two additional lightning dock connectors.
As far as listening on a plan goes? Well my hearing instruments I reckon would 
be up to the job not that I�ve had absolute personal experience in this area 
given its a bit risky flying on planes with my particular hearing condition but 
that�s bye the bye and not of particular interest to this list.
I think the main problem here is that a lot of folks would rather just whine 
about it all.

> On 8 Sep 2016, at 10:28 AM, JOHN RIEHL  wrote:
> 
> What you don't realize is that for some folks who are deaf or hard of 
> hearing, or people like me who travel on trains and planes, having the 
> ability to use headphones and charge your phones is pretty important. 
> I resent having a substantive capability taken away for the sake of 
> "thinness". 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit 
> Campos
> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 7:16 PM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced
> 
> Yeah not much was said but it sounds like they are more wireless than blue 
> tooth. They talked trach about blue tooth. I mean just to say that they 
> didn't seem keen to use it. So I guess it's some kind of wireless like 
> wireless headphones and keyboards use. Which for distance is much better. Leo 
> Laporte and Andy Anatco were pissed about the jack. They kept insisting that 
> they could have kept it. But that would mean the phone would have to be wider 
> at best. Right? AAlso I agree with Shiller time to cut the cord. Cords always 
> tangle especially the cheep spegetty cord like Apple themselves use for the 
> ear pods. Or you could axidentally step on them and break something like I've 
> done to my Bose OE2I head phone kable. Stuff like that. I agree it's not fare 
> for those that have bought mad expensive stuff that is corded but oh well se 
> la vi. At least they give ya an adaptor.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 6:46 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced
> 
> Indeed it has and no real surprises.
> The headphones socket has gone to make way for another speaker - thus stereo 
> speakers which should dramatically improve the sound of the phone - and that 
> can only be a plus.
> According to the blurb I read the iPhone comes with two very nice additions, 
> a lightning dock to 3.5MM headphones adapter and a set of Airbuds, 
> interesting to know whether these use AirPlay, Bluetooth or yet another 
> standa

RE: The evolution of Spotify

2016-08-22 Thread Steve Jacobson
Dane,

What does Spotify support for bit rates now?

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 3:09 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: The evolution of Spotify

Hi!

If you've not taken a serious look at the Spotify Music platform in a 
good while - and you like your music just the way you want it and not 
how your local radio station wants it - then take a good look at the 
modern Spotify.

I won't go into all the changes I noticed since I last saw it before 
today but the changes are numerous and these changes have really given 
me something to think about regarding the other Music services I'm 
subscribed to, it might very well be that you'll find that Spotify will 
provide your each and every need for your music listening habits. 
particularly if you're a Spotify Premium user.

I used the Spotify IOS App to do my exploration, I found accessibility 
to be first class.

Right now I'm listening to the "Soft Rock" playlist on Spotify through a 
Spotify connect device, the Sangean WRF28D portable radio.

Connecting the device wasn't hard to do, I just selected Spotify from 
the Source list for the radio using the Undok App, I then opened the 
Spotify App from Undok and used the Connect icon at the bottom of the 
screen to locate the radio, the music started playing through it when I 
double-tapped the "Play" icon.








RE: Sound Forge Pro 11 Window-Eyes

2016-07-21 Thread Steve Jacobson
Peter,

I didn't notice any disadvantages but I probably don't use Sound Forge at the 
level that some of you do.  At some point, I started having trouble with 
selecting audio with mark in and mark out, and I don't know what the source of 
that trouble is.  I think I had that trouble with Sound Forge 10, though, as 
well.  I also can't say that I found any advantages, either.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Peter Scanlon
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 7:42 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
Subject: RE: Sound Forge Pro 11 Window-Eyes

Are their any disadvantages in going to SF11 from SF10?

P.
 
-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Thursday, 21 July 2016 10:34 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
Subject: RE: Sound Forge Pro 11 Window-Eyes

Ah cool. I understand. Well if it does work with Win Eyes any more than it 
already kinda did that's epic!

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 10:48 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Sound Forge Pro 11 Window-Eyes

As I said, I wouldn’t have a clue, just passing on a details I received this 
morning.


> On 21 Jul 2016, at 12:36 PM, Hamit Campos  wrote:
> 
> What do you mean? SF 11 works with Window-Eyes? That's interesting if so.
> I've used 11 much easyer than 10. You don't have to hit control r than 
> alt r to record. Just control R and you're off to the races. lol
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 8:18 PM
> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> Subject: Sound Forge Pro 11 Window-Eyes
> 
> This has just been approved for Window-eyes though don't know how good 
> it is or what it does as I don't use Sound Foge 11 and - as far as I 
> know - I've no plans to ever use it .
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: How to connect regular headphones to an iPhone

2016-04-25 Thread Steve Jacobson
A normal headphone jack such as the type that fits into devices such as MP3 
players, the Victor Reader Stream or the BookSense devices will fit the iPhone 
5, but some of the cases for iPhones will not allow them to be pushed in far 
enough.  I am guessing that this is what you are encountering.  What happens is 
that the connector part of the jack fits, but the plastic around the plug is 
too large to fit into the slot of the case.  .  You may have to either partly 
open or remove the case or find headphones that have a plug with a smaller 
plastic surround.  Standard headphones are starting to come with slimmer plugs, 
but that isn't of much help if you already have headphones with a plug having a 
larger body.  

The bottom line here to be clear is that there are two separate issues.  Is the 
plug the correct size to fit the jack in the iPhone, and will the case on your 
iPhone let the plug be pushed in far enough.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 5:35 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: RE: How to connect regular headphones to an iPhone

This is an iPhone 5, and a normal jack won't fit its headphone/earphone 
receptor.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 2:55 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: How to connect regular headphones to an iPhone

Normally you just plug them in assuming the jack of your headphones is a 3.5MM 
jack.

If the jack is larger then you’ll have to buy an adapter which can be purchased 
at your local electronics store.

Connecting a standard set of headphones means that you’ll have to answer a call 
on your iPhone on the iPhone itself, control music playback and volume from the 
iPhone itself and use the iPhones own microphone.

Some headphones such as the B&W P7’s come with interchangeable leads, one 
specifically for an IOS/Android device and the other specifically for 
connection to a stereo system.


> On 26 Apr 2016, at 4:44 AM, Adrian Spratt  wrote:
> 
> I'm guessing there's a connector that enables you to connect headphones with 
> regular jacks to iPhones. I'm hopeless at technical jargon. If there is such 
> a connector, could someone say exactly what I should look for on, say, Amazon?

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High Quality Music Streams

2016-02-06 Thread Steve Jacobson
Recently, I heard of a high quality music source called Deezer.  It appears
to have quite a few tracks, but it requires Sonus hardware as I understand
it.  Do those here have experience with other high quality download or
streaming music sites that are not particular about the hardware used?
Certainly I am aware that it is necessary to have good hardware to take full
advantage of such sources.

 

Best regards,

 

Steve Jacobson

 



RE: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily

2015-07-01 Thread Steve Jacobson
Dane and others,

This is a valuable thread and I hope we can continue with some serious 
discussion because it seems to me that a lot gets glossed over.  I started out 
with CoolEdit and stuck with it when it became Audition 1.0 and also 1.5 from 
Adobe.  It wasn't perfect, but it could do a lot, and it was pretty accessible. 
 Then came Audition 2.0 which displayed everything differently and it was 
suddenly not accessible.  At that point, I switched to Sound Forge.  

While I certainly fall into the category of hoping a new version of Sound Forge 
will be more accessible, I am also relieved when a new version doesn't make 
inaccessible that which I already know as Audition did.  There is also a 
tendency on my part to feel that since I've already made an investment in money 
and also in time to learn the software, that I tend to stick with new versions. 
 Still, I would never say that Sound Forge is the best audio editor for us.  If 
someone gets what they want from another editor that is more accessible, they 
are going to experience a good deal less frustration.

Even so, it does seem to me that there is a lot being said without looking at 
details.  More than once, in my frustration with Sound Forge, I've tried 
something else and found it did a specific thing I was looking for but didn't 
do something else I needed.  I've also seen cases where what Sound Forge gives 
me that is not readily accessible, are sometimes things I don't see offered at 
all in some other programs.  I mentioned a couple of days back that I was 
trying to dynamically expand some compressed audio and I could find no 
accessible way to do it with Sound forge.  I developed an expansion preset 
using an Optacon, a difficult process, but I can now use that preset to 
accomplish some of what I wanted.  When I last checked, I didn't find that I 
could expand data with a couple of the popular programs.  In one case, the 
"expansion" I was told could be done by another package was for expanding the 
sound field, not the dynamic range.  I also found that I got results with the 
Sound Forge Noise Reduction plug-in that to my ear, I could not achieve with a 
couple of other programs.  It wasn't that they didn't reduce noise, they did 
that very well.  One of the four noise reduction modes that Sound Forge had, 
though, allowed me to get rid of more noise with less side effects.  I could 
not find anything that worked as well in that particular case.  I developed a 
process in Sound Forge that I use on meetings that does a nice job of bringing 
up the audio gain for questions off mike that sounds a lot like someone 
manually adjusting the gain.  It delays compression and then after a couple of 
seconds brings up the gain.  Other programs had similar effects, but I could 
just never quite get the same results.

So what's my point, I know I'm sounding like I'm saying that Sound Forge is the 
best.  That's not what I mean to say.  Where my frustration is that I keep 
reading here that program a does something as well as Sound Forge does, and 
program B does something else as good.  What I have not felt has been said 
specifically is where there is a program that does everything Sound Forge does 
for me and also does some of what Sound Forge does in a more accessible way.  
So SWave can edit as tightly.  That is good to know, but what else does it do?  
Does anybody have experience with the latest version of Audition with the 
latest screen reader support for it?  Is it worth a look?  I tried it a while 
back and much of what was lost is now made accessible using MSAA or UIA, but I 
still found gaps.  

I took a close look at Audacity plug-ins a while back and I found a huge number 
of them.  However, it seemed like many were made to deal with very specific 
problems, and in my searching, I didn't find anything that would dynamically 
expand audio, either accessible or not.  

It is fine to say there are many other options, and I wouldn't argue with that 
at all.  It's just that in my experience, it seems as though I would have to 
use many other options to do what I am managing to do with Sound Forge with all 
of its accessibility issues.  I would like to hop onto another band wagon, 
especially if it was better and cheaper, but it would be helpful if we didn't 
each have to try five different programs to find out what each will or not do.  
Has anyone found Audacity plug-ins that are particularly useful?  What else 
does SWave do?  I know that Total Recorder can record pretty much any audio 
that comes into a computer, can be set up for timed recording, and can be used 
to edit, but does it have other audio functions?  Gold wave does a lot of 
things well.  Can anyone who used Sound Forge and moved to Gold Wave talk about 
what is better and what isn't?  It would be helpful to get some specifics from 
people who use various too

RE: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily

2015-06-29 Thread Steve Jacobson
Brian,

I am using Sony Sound Forge 11, and I definitely see some issues, particularly 
with plug-ins, that make it less accessible.  However, would you mind talking 
about what else doesn't work as well in Sound Forge 11?  It is nice to know 
when a difficulty I'm having is my fault or when I can blame Sony.  Also, I am 
not always sure when something might be due to a screen reader limitation.  For 
example, I am having some trouble selecting audio with Mark in and Mark Out in 
that they just don't seem to take effect sometimes.  Something is probably 
happening visually that is pretty self-explanatory, but it goes right past me.  
I do not remember having a similar problem with older versions of Sound Forge, 
but it doesn't seem likely this is an accessibility thing. 

Finally, I have worked some to dynamically expand audio to try to decompress 
some old DBX recordings where I don't have a functioning DBX encoder/decoder.  
I do not see any way to expand audio with any version of Sound Forge without 
graphically manipulating the envelope.  I have managed to do that with the help 
of an Optacon, but it wasn't easy.  Have you found other ways of accomplishing 
dynamic expansion with any version of Sound Forge?

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

Best regards,

Steve


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Hartgen
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 2:35 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily

I agree that Amadeus Pro is ideal on the Mac side, I've used it and it works 
very well.

On Windows, in terms of serious audio production without vision, there is 
nothing that beats Sound Forge V8 if you can get it, V9 and above have serious 
accessibility issues in my view and, despite me reporting these to Sony, 
they've not been fixed.

On Windows, for multi-track work I use Sonar 8.5. Again, it's excellent and 
allows you to be very precise in terms of achieving a good overall balance of 
tracks. I like to be very precise with my editing, and Sonar does not quite 
give me the flexibility that Sound Forge does, but we do use Sonar a lot.

Brian Hartgen
Hartgen Consultancy
www.hartgen.org
Phone UK: 02920-850298.
Phone US: 415-871-0626

JAWS Certified, 2015.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 4:55 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily

If you’re just relying on Sound Forge to record with a simple keystroke then 
you’re money is well and truly wasted, Total Recorder for example 
records at the touch of a keystroke, just type ctrl-r from within the 
Application or set up a global hotkey to record from anywhere.

I’ve not played with Sound Forge Pro for a very long time, Audio Studio does me 
so I’m wondering just how many of the “Visual” features in Sound Forge Pro 11 a 
person without sight can make use of?

If you want to know what my favourite audio package is - for recording, 
editing, multi track recording and just about everything else to do with audio 
- then its undoubtedly Amadeus Pro.


> On 29 Jun 2015, at 1:41 pm, Hamit Campos  wrote:
> 
> Epic, I've tried it. It's so easy to record with it. 1 keystroke and you're 
> capturing.
> I love it. Can't wait for them to upgrade Audio Studio.
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:07 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily
> 
> http://www.studiodaily.com/2013/10/review-sound-forge-pro-11/
> 
> -- 
> 
> **
> Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves
> 
> 
> 
> 

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.









Re: Ripping With WMP

2015-06-08 Thread Steve Jacobson
Gary,

There are two approaches to ripping CD's in Windows Media Player of which I am 
aware.  In another note, you were 
referred to the "Ripping" tab of the options dialog.  On that tap, you can 
check a box that will rip CD's 
automatically when you insert one.  It will check first to be sure it was not 
already ripped.  You can also specify 
what type of files will be created on that tab.  This works good if you are 
ripping a bunch of them at once.

If you don't want to rip automatically, make sure the associated checkbox is 
not cheched.  When you insert a CD, you 
should be focused on the "Now Playing" tab of Windows Media Player.  If you are 
not on that tab, pressing CONTROL-3 
should bring you there.  Once the CD is playing, you should find a "Rip CD" 
button by tabbing around that dialog.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 23:35:31 -0400, Gary Petraccaro wrote:

>Running Win7 64-bit and can't find how to rip to mp3 using WMP.  Would 
>appreciate either simple instructions or 
being pointed to a tutorial.
>Thanks.







Re: horus: the invisible made audio, please please read and share

2014-12-29 Thread Steve Jacobson
Someone asked if these links could be passed on to the National Federation of 
the Blind.  I can send them to our R&D committee for its consideration.  
However, when I reviewed the web site, it looks to me as though there are some 
pretty solid goals and general product design decisions, but it does not 
seem as though it is built on anything existing.  Therefore, I don't know that 
I see what is all that amazing at this point.  Still, it is worth watching.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sun, 28 Dec 2014 15:06:22 +, Robert Godridge wrote:

>here's a link to much more information on it etc, it really is incredible.

>http://crowdfunding.wcap.tim.it/projects/270/horus&lng=2

>On 12/28/14, Robert Godridge  wrote:
>> guys,
>> I was shown this earlier and I am absolutely amazed.
>> Please read it, what do you think?
>> http://horus.technology/en/the-project/
>> I don't know how much money they need but it must be done by the end
>> of the month I think.
>> What do you reckon?
>>








Copying CD's using Windows 7

2014-08-25 Thread Steve Jacobson
I had a program on my computer that I regularly used to copy an entire cd to 
another CD, but it turned out that it was apparently a long trial and it has 
expired.  I 
don't do this very often so I'm not particularly concerned about doing this 
easily, and I'm not particularly anxious to get another program for the few 
times I do 
this.  However, there is likely a way to do this in Windows 7, and I've tried a 
couple of approaches without success.  Is there a way to copy an entire CD to 
another without ripping and then burning using Windows 7 functions?

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson






RE: I'm new to this list, and I have some Sound Forge questions.

2014-08-25 Thread Steve Jacobson
Tina,

My experience with Sound Forge 11 has been primarily with Window-Eyes although 
I am somewhat familiar with JFW and I know a little about Jim 
SnowBarger's scripts.  I have not had the problem you indicate and have not 
observed any differences in that regard between Sound Forge 10 and 11.  
Having said that, though, there are a huge number of options that can have all 
different kinds of effects.  While I can't think of one that should just 
arbitrarily 
put you at the beginning of the file, I have had some options cause some 
strange things to happen.  For example, I brought a file I created in Sound 
Forge 
10 into Sound Forge 11, and none of the over 50 markers I had set worked.  Wow, 
was I mad,  Why didn't they keep compatibility, and on and on.  I went 
back and finished in Sound Forge 10.  I found out later by accident, that 
pressing the letter x changes the "play mode."  It causes markers to be ignored 
in 
favor of other parameters.  I went back to that old Sound Forge 10 file, 
brought it into version 11, and what do you know, all of the markers worked 
flawlessly.

I am not saying that some of what others have found is not true, because my use 
of Sound Forge is not as complex as some of the others here.  However, if 
one is going to use a program like this successfully, it is worth learning as 
much about it as you can.  I think getting version 10 now might be difficult, 
for one 
thing.  Yet, if you are having good luck with Sound Forge 8, you might be best 
served to stick with it if it works with your hardware.  The old version I was 
using did not work on 64-bit systems, as I recall, or it wasn't compatible with 
something in Windows 7, I don't remember any more, but I was forced to switch.  
You will probably be forced to switch from Sound Forge 8 to something newer at 
some point, too, but it might not happen for a while.  If I were you, though, 
since you've spent the money, I'd investigate it a little more before giving 
up.  You can probably have both versions on your computer so it might not have 
to 
be all of one or the other.  I know I can have versions 10 and 11 both on my 
computer at once.  You might also want to be sure you have the latest scripts 
or whether there is anything you have to do to make them work with version 11, 
but you've probably done that.  Checking to see which cursor snapping 
options are in effect could make a difference as well.  Others who are more 
into Sound Forge 11 may have other advice as well, and I may simply not have 
encountered what some have because I tend to be working with two track 
recordings.  Good luck.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 22:28:26 -0700, Tina Wilson wrote:

>Hi Steve, 

>All of this stuff is so crazy. I used Jaws 14 tonight instead of Jaws 15
>with Sound Forge 11 and Jim Snhowberger's scripts, and the editing worked a
>little better, but I still had to keep bringing it back to the spot that I
>wanted to edit because when I would use the number arrow keys, it wanted to
>bring me right back to the front of the file. It took me almost two hours to
>edit a job which probably should have only taken a half hour because it
>wasn't that big of a job. So right now, I hate all of this. But I do think
>you are right. The sound quality is no different in Sound Forge 11 Pro. 

>Tina 

>-----Original Message-
>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Steve
>Jacobson
>Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 7:26 AM
>To: PC Audio Discussion List
>Subject: RE: I'm new to this list, and I have some Sound Forge questions.

>Tina,

>Sorry, my question was not very clear.  Someone said you should go for Sound
>Forge 10 instead of 11, but I upgraded from 10 to 11 and didn't notice
>anything that worked worse, so I wondered why the suggestion to go back to
>10.  You would probably have trouble finding 10.  Before Sound Forge 10, I
>used an older version, but I think it was perhaps version 6, so I don't know
>what features version 8 has.  However going from version 6 to 10, I did gain
>some integrated capability to create CD's which I have found convenient.  As
>far as I can tell, though, the general sound and the Noise Reduction plug-in
>have not really changed.  It could be that you already had some of the
>features that I appreciated in version 10 in your version 8, though.

>Best regards,

>Steve Jacobson

>On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 22:20:00 -0700, Tina Wilson wrote:

>>Hi Steve,

>>I've only used 8 and 11, and I don't notice any difference in the sound 
>>itself after the recordings have been completed at all.

>>Tina

>>-Original Message-
>>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>>Steve Jacobson
>>Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 

RE: I'm new to this list, and I have some Sound Forge questions.

2014-08-24 Thread Steve Jacobson
Tina,

Sorry, my question was not very clear.  Someone said you should go for Sound 
Forge 10 instead of 11, but I upgraded from 10 to 11 and didn't notice 
anything that worked worse, so I wondered why the suggestion to go back to 10.  
You would probably have trouble finding 10.  Before Sound Forge 10, I 
used an older version, but I think it was perhaps version 6, so I don't know 
what features version 8 has.  However going from version 6 to 10, I did gain 
some integrated capability to create CD's which I have found convenient.  As 
far as I can tell, though, the general sound and the Noise Reduction plug-in 
have not really changed.  It could be that you already had some of the features 
that I appreciated in version 10 in your version 8, though.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 22:20:00 -0700, Tina Wilson wrote:

>Hi Steve,

>I've only used 8 and 11, and I don't notice any difference in the sound
>itself after the recordings have been completed at all. 

>Tina  

>-Original Message-
>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Steve
>Jacobson
>Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:16 PM
>To: PC Audio Discussion List
>Subject: Re: I'm new to this list, and I have some Sound Forge questions.

>I'm curious why, I don't notice much difference between Sound Forge 10 and
>11.  Could you explain?

>Best regards,

>Steve Jacobson

>On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 14:06:42 +1000, Peter Scanlon wrote:

>>Go back to SF 10.


>>-Original Message-
>>From: Tina Wilson
>>Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 1:51 PM
>>To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
>>Subject: I'm new to this list, and I have some Sound Forge questions. 

>>Hi everyone,



>>I'm wondering if anyone has used Sound Forge 11 Pro with Windows 7 and 
>>Jaws 15.  I seem to have problems with the programs not interacting 
>>well, and I do a lot of recording and editing for my voiceover 
>>profession. I am wondering if someone could tell me which version of 
>>Jaws would work best with Sound Forge 11 Pro.



>>Thanks. 



>>Tina















Re: I'm new to this list, and I have some Sound Forge questions.

2014-08-24 Thread Steve Jacobson
Thanks and that is interesting.  I've had some unpredictability when trying to 
select audio, but it seemed as though I had the same problems with both 10 
and 11.  I didn't remember having the problem with the version I had before 
that, but as said elsewhere, I think that may have been version 6.  Also, I am 
using Window-Eyes, but I wouldn't think the screen reader would have an effect 
on the issues you mentioned.  Thanks for explaining.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 15:22:11 +1000, Peter Scanlon wrote:

>Well I had a varioety of issues, with playing, cursor movements, and heard 
>that others had simillar issues so I gave upp.


>-Original Message- 
>From: Steve Jacobson
>Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 3:16 PM
>To: PC Audio Discussion List
>Subject: Re: I'm new to this list, and I have some Sound Forge questions.

>I'm curious why, I don't notice much difference between Sound Forge 10 and 
>11.  Could you explain?

>Best regards,

>Steve Jacobson

>On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 14:06:42 +1000, Peter Scanlon wrote:

>>Go back to SF 10.


>>-Original Message- 
>>From: Tina Wilson
>>Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 1:51 PM
>>To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
>>Subject: I'm new to this list, and I have some Sound Forge questions.

>>Hi everyone,



>>I'm wondering if anyone has used Sound Forge 11 Pro with Windows 7 and Jaws
>>15.  I seem to have problems with the programs not interacting well, and I
>>do a lot of recording and editing for my voiceover profession. I am
>>wondering if someone could tell me which version of Jaws would work best
>>with Sound Forge 11 Pro.



>>Thanks.



>>Tina













Re: I'm new to this list, and I have some Sound Forge questions.

2014-08-23 Thread Steve Jacobson
I'm curious why, I don't notice much difference between Sound Forge 10 and 11.  
Could you explain?

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 14:06:42 +1000, Peter Scanlon wrote:

>Go back to SF 10.


>-Original Message- 
>From: Tina Wilson 
>Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 1:51 PM 
>To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org 
>Subject: I'm new to this list, and I have some Sound Forge questions. 

>Hi everyone,



>I'm wondering if anyone has used Sound Forge 11 Pro with Windows 7 and Jaws
>15.  I seem to have problems with the programs not interacting well, and I
>do a lot of recording and editing for my voiceover profession. I am
>wondering if someone could tell me which version of Jaws would work best
>with Sound Forge 11 Pro. 



>Thanks. 



>Tina








Re: Toslink connector question

2014-07-19 Thread Steve Jacobson
Thanks, and yes, that's what I referred to as the optical connector, optical as 
in using optical fiber, but the content is digital audio.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 13:49:43 -0700, Donald L. Roberts wrote:

>The toslink connector is the small rather square indentation immediately 
>to the left of the HDMI connector if the box is oriented so that the 
>connectors are facing you.  I realize that that is the back of the box, 
>but when messing with the connections, I turn the box so that the 
>connectors are facing me.

>Don Roberts


>On 7/18/2014 11:39 AM, Steve Jacobson wrote:
>> Apple TV has no analog outputs that I know of but which is the connector 
>> that you are referring to as TOSLINK?  Is
>> that the optical connection?
>>
>> There are a number of ways to get analog output from your Apple TV.  If your 
>> TV is connected using the HDMI cable,
>> it is also decoding the audio.  Even though the TV's sound is not good, it 
>> may have audio outputs that could go to
>> your stereo receiver.
>>
>> There are also converters that will convert a digital optical output signal 
>> to an analog signal.  Using one of
>> these will also work.
>>
>> There are also converters that will convert an HDMI output to analog video 
>> and audio.  This would degrade your
>> picture, though, but the audio is pretty good.  I am using one of these 
>> since my TV and receiver are old.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Steve Jacobson
>>
>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 08:28:10 -0700, Donald L. Roberts wrote:
>>
>>> This question pertains to the toslink connector on my Apple TV box.  Is
>>> the signal which comes from the Apple TV's toslink connector a digital
>>> signal or an analog signal?  If digital, then I need to convert it to
>>> analog as my receiver is quite old and has no digital inputs, only RCA
>>> analog inputs.  I do realize that I could listen to the television set's
>>> audio, but I do not choose to do so as my TV has the dubious distinction
>>> of producing the tinniest audio I have ever heard.  Thanks.
>>
>>> Don Roberts
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>








Re: Toslink connector question

2014-07-18 Thread Steve Jacobson
Apple TV has no analog outputs that I know of but which is the connector that 
you are referring to as TOSLINK?  Is 
that the optical connection?  

There are a number of ways to get analog output from your Apple TV.  If your TV 
is connected using the HDMI cable, 
it is also decoding the audio.  Even though the TV's sound is not good, it may 
have audio outputs that could go to 
your stereo receiver.

There are also converters that will convert a digital optical output signal to 
an analog signal.  Using one of 
these will also work.

There are also converters that will convert an HDMI output to analog video and 
audio.  This would degrade your 
picture, though, but the audio is pretty good.  I am using one of these since 
my TV and receiver are old.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 08:28:10 -0700, Donald L. Roberts wrote:

>This question pertains to the toslink connector on my Apple TV box.  Is 
>the signal which comes from the Apple TV's toslink connector a digital 
>signal or an analog signal?  If digital, then I need to convert it to 
>analog as my receiver is quite old and has no digital inputs, only RCA 
>analog inputs.  I do realize that I could listen to the television set's 
>audio, but I do not choose to do so as my TV has the dubious distinction 
>of producing the tinniest audio I have ever heard.  Thanks.

>Don Roberts








Re: Need Help with Sound Forge Pro 11

2014-07-16 Thread Steve Jacobson
Kelly,

There are definitely simpler programs than Sound Forge, and if you can get 
version 6 to run then you have it made.  
There are a lot of options that can affect how Sound Forge 11 works and some of 
what you are experiencing probably 
is caused by options chosen.  I occasionally have been fooled by the selection 
process in Sound Forge 10 and 11 
and have found answers to some of my issues and believe that there is probably 
still something I don't understand 
about selecting data rather than it being a program bug.  If you decide you 
have to go back to Sound Forge 11, we 
might be able to work through some of it.  Otherwise, Gold Wave and Audacity 
are both options that others have had 
good luck with besides MP3Cut.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 20:02:56 -0600, Kelly Sapergia wrote:

>Hi All,

>Thanks for all the messages about Sound Forge Pro 11. I do a lot of editing 
>of WAV files, and so far this version is proving, at least for me, to be an 
>utter disaster! Sometimes I can get it to do what I want, but while editing 
>material out of a large WAV file just now, it wasn't removing everything 
>that was selected, or else forgetting where I put a marker, and selecting an 
>earlier portion of the file as a result. What used to be a simple task in 
>6.0D is taking longer to accomplish in 11, and there's no reason for it. 
>It's because of all these issues that I'm going back to 6.0D, assuming it 
>will run on Windows 7. If it ends up not working with this system, I'll 
>definitely be looking for an alternative product, but right now I've had 
>enough.

>Thanks.

>Yours Sincerely,
>Kelly John Sapergia
>Show Host and Production Director
>The Global Voice Internet Radio
>http://www.theglobalvoice.info

>Personal Website: http://www.ksapergia.net
>Business Website (KJS Productions): http://www.kjsproductions.com
>Follow me on Twitter at: KJSapergia 












Re: Need Help with Sound Forge Pro 11

2014-07-14 Thread Steve Jacobson
Tim,

That's a good suggestion.  In my case, I was applying a specific type of 
compression that I already had defined in 
Sound Forge.  I should take a look, though, thanks.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson
compression 
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 16:30:28 -0500, Tim Aune wrote:

>I might suggest using MP3 direct cut for editing MP3 files.  It's very fast, 
>and you don't have to convert the files.  It doesn't have a lot of the 
>features that a program like sound forge has but it is very reliable.

>-----Original Message- 
>From: Steve Jacobson
>Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 9:32 AM
>To: PC Audio Discussion List
>Subject: RE: Need Help with Sound Forge Pro 11

>Bob,

>These are all very good points.  I'd like to explain a bit more about my 
>earlier response in case it helps Kelly.
>I was editing a four hour MP3 file over the weekend, and I was finding 
>everything to be very sluggish including
>moving through the file with PGUP and PGDN.  Since I had worked with some 
>other large files in SF 11 I wondered
>what had changed.  It turned out that I had generally worked with WAV files 
>before.  I saved my MP3 file as a WAV
>file and worked on it in that format and much of the sluggishness I was 
>experiencing was gone.  Of course,
>converting an MP3 file to WAV doesn't make it sound any better, but it did 
>make a large difference in my ability
>to move around in the file.  It may be my imagination as it is not that easy 
>to verify this, but I believe that
>saving a file takes longer in SF 11 than it did in SF 10 or before, but I 
>could be experiencing something else, or
>it could be the added overhead that you mention.  It has been my experience 
>that heavy file activity can lock out
>screen readers or make them not responsive, so saving a file might be 
>causing the appearance of loosing speech.
>Sometimes starting NVDA or Narrator can help one figure out what is 
>happening.

>Best regards,

>Steve Jacobson

>On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 11:13:34 +1000, Robert Nelson wrote:



>>SF 11 is a far more complex program than SF 6.  The way that SF handles the
>>file being edited has changed  because it is now a multi-channel editor and
>>every time you do something that causes SF to write out the edited files to
>>protect you from yourself, it takes time to complete the process.

>>How quick the process will be is dependent on the read/write speed of your
>>hard disk.  If you are working on a large file, that is to say, 4 or 5 hour
>>mp3, then it will appear to be slow.

>>The only setting that you might change is the location of temporary files.
>>If you use a separate drive for the temporary files, there may be some gain
>>but that will depend on the read/write sppeed.

>>And, no, using a solid state drive will not really improve things that much
>>because the Windows way of reading and writing to disk pretty well negates
>>any gain there may be in using a SSD.

>>The mp3 codec does appear to be slower than in SF 6 but you must remember
>>that the program is doing a lot more processing than SF 6 did.

>>Opening, editing and saving in wav format  may be slightly quicker  but you
>>will eventually have to convert it to mp3.

>>However, I find that for files of an hour or less the performance is on a
>>par with SF 8D.

>>The moral of the story may well be that the Sony people did not  anticipate
>>that SF would be used to edit  7 or 8 hour long files.

>>Bob Nelson


>>-Original Message-
>>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Kelly
>>Sapergia
>>Sent: Sunday, 13 July 2014 1:38 PM
>>To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
>>Subject: Need Help with Sound Forge Pro 11

>>Hi,

>>After recently getting a new 64-bit PC with Windows 7 Professional, I
>>decided to upgrade Sound Forge from 6.0D (which I've used for a number of
>>years) to the latest version, Pro 11. However, I've noticed that this new
>>version seems to be rather sluggish when compared to 6.0D.
>>For instance, if I have two files loaded, and I switch to the other file by
>>either using the Window menu or pressing Control+Tab, it seems to take
>>awhile before I can do anything again. With 6.0D, going to a new window was
>>instantaneous. There have also been times where I'll be doing some editing,
>>and the program will seem to freeze for a couple minutes. When this 
>>happens,

>>I lose speech, but can Alt+Tab to another program, such as WinAmp.
>>Eventually, everything works fine again, but I find this very frustrating.
>>If anyone else is using this version, have you experienced these issues? 
>>Are

>>there any settings I should adjust to make it work more smoothly?

>>Thanks.

>>Yours Sincerely,
>>Kelly John Sapergia
>>Show Host and Production Director
>>The Global Voice Internet Radio
>>http://www.theglobalvoice.info

>>Personal Website: http://www.ksapergia.net
>>Business Website (KJS Productions): http://www.kjsproductions.com
>>Follow me on Twitter at: KJSapergia
















RE: Need Help with Sound Forge Pro 11

2014-07-14 Thread Steve Jacobson
Bob,

These are all very good points.  I'd like to explain a bit more about my 
earlier response in case it helps Kelly.  
I was editing a four hour MP3 file over the weekend, and I was finding 
everything to be very sluggish including 
moving through the file with PGUP and PGDN.  Since I had worked with some other 
large files in SF 11 I wondered 
what had changed.  It turned out that I had generally worked with WAV files 
before.  I saved my MP3 file as a WAV 
file and worked on it in that format and much of the sluggishness I was 
experiencing was gone.  Of course, 
converting an MP3 file to WAV doesn't make it sound any better, but it did make 
a large difference in my ability 
to move around in the file.  It may be my imagination as it is not that easy to 
verify this, but I believe that 
saving a file takes longer in SF 11 than it did in SF 10 or before, but I could 
be experiencing something else, or 
it could be the added overhead that you mention.  It has been my experience 
that heavy file activity can lock out 
screen readers or make them not responsive, so saving a file might be causing 
the appearance of loosing speech.  
Sometimes starting NVDA or Narrator can help one figure out what is happening.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 11:13:34 +1000, Robert Nelson wrote:



>SF 11 is a far more complex program than SF 6.  The way that SF handles the
>file being edited has changed  because it is now a multi-channel editor and
>every time you do something that causes SF to write out the edited files to
>protect you from yourself, it takes time to complete the process.

>How quick the process will be is dependent on the read/write speed of your
>hard disk.  If you are working on a large file, that is to say, 4 or 5 hour
>mp3, then it will appear to be slow.

>The only setting that you might change is the location of temporary files.
>If you use a separate drive for the temporary files, there may be some gain
>but that will depend on the read/write sppeed.

>And, no, using a solid state drive will not really improve things that much
>because the Windows way of reading and writing to disk pretty well negates
>any gain there may be in using a SSD.

>The mp3 codec does appear to be slower than in SF 6 but you must remember
>that the program is doing a lot more processing than SF 6 did.

>Opening, editing and saving in wav format  may be slightly quicker  but you
>will eventually have to convert it to mp3.

>However, I find that for files of an hour or less the performance is on a
>par with SF 8D.

>The moral of the story may well be that the Sony people did not  anticipate
>that SF would be used to edit  7 or 8 hour long files.

>Bob Nelson


>-Original Message-
>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Kelly
>Sapergia
>Sent: Sunday, 13 July 2014 1:38 PM
>To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
>Subject: Need Help with Sound Forge Pro 11

>Hi,

>After recently getting a new 64-bit PC with Windows 7 Professional, I 
>decided to upgrade Sound Forge from 6.0D (which I've used for a number of 
>years) to the latest version, Pro 11. However, I've noticed that this new 
>version seems to be rather sluggish when compared to 6.0D.
>For instance, if I have two files loaded, and I switch to the other file by 
>either using the Window menu or pressing Control+Tab, it seems to take 
>awhile before I can do anything again. With 6.0D, going to a new window was 
>instantaneous. There have also been times where I'll be doing some editing, 
>and the program will seem to freeze for a couple minutes. When this happens,

>I lose speech, but can Alt+Tab to another program, such as WinAmp. 
>Eventually, everything works fine again, but I find this very frustrating.
>If anyone else is using this version, have you experienced these issues? Are

>there any settings I should adjust to make it work more smoothly?

>Thanks.

>Yours Sincerely,
>Kelly John Sapergia
>Show Host and Production Director
>The Global Voice Internet Radio
>http://www.theglobalvoice.info

>Personal Website: http://www.ksapergia.net
>Business Website (KJS Productions): http://www.kjsproductions.com
>Follow me on Twitter at: KJSapergia 










Re: Need Help with Sound Forge Pro 11

2014-07-12 Thread Steve Jacobson
Kelly,

I have not experienced all that you have, but I have found that if you are 
editing MP3 files, for example, that saving them to WAV files and working on 
those helps a lot with sluggishness.  I know that Sound Forge up-converts other 
formats to a higher sampling rate, etc., but it seems that it tries to maintain 
some relationship with the original file unless you save the file in a more 
lossless format.  Performing some operations, including saving at times, can 
take a 
couple of minutes.  However, at least with Window-Eyes, I can find the line 
with the mouse pointer that provides the percentage that has been processed.  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson
  
On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 21:38:28 -0600, Kelly Sapergia wrote:

>Hi,

>After recently getting a new 64-bit PC with Windows 7 Professional, I 
>decided to upgrade Sound Forge from 6.0D (which I've used for a number of 
>years) to the latest version, Pro 11. However, I've noticed that this new 
>version seems to be rather sluggish when compared to 6.0D.
>For instance, if I have two files loaded, and I switch to the other file by 
>either using the Window menu or pressing Control+Tab, it seems to take 
>awhile before I can do anything again. With 6.0D, going to a new window was 
>instantaneous. There have also been times where I'll be doing some editing, 
>and the program will seem to freeze for a couple minutes. When this happens, 
>I lose speech, but can Alt+Tab to another program, such as WinAmp. 
>Eventually, everything works fine again, but I find this very frustrating.
>If anyone else is using this version, have you experienced these issues? Are 
>there any settings I should adjust to make it work more smoothly?

>Thanks.

>Yours Sincerely,
>Kelly John Sapergia
>Show Host and Production Director
>The Global Voice Internet Radio
>http://www.theglobalvoice.info

>Personal Website: http://www.ksapergia.net
>Business Website (KJS Productions): http://www.kjsproductions.com
>Follow me on Twitter at: KJSapergia 









Re: re soundforge

2014-07-10 Thread Steve Jacobson
You can have multiple effects processing sound at one time so you can hear the 
end effect.  Of course, this could 
result in a log of processing and a computer may have trouble with processing 
it all in real time.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 18:52:24 +0100, brian parker wrote:

>Hi, what is the purpose of the chainer in soundforge. brian.









Re: Cool Edit

2014-07-10 Thread Steve Jacobson
Peter,

CoolEdit was purchased by Adobe and became Adobe Audition.  Adobe Audition 
through version 1.5 was pretty much 
unchanged from the original CoolEdit.  Audition 2.0 changed how data was 
displayed on the screen and became much 
less accessible.  Adobe did build in some other means of getting the 
information but it requires more scripting to 
get at it, and in my observation doesn't seem quite as complete but I have not 
looked at all of this in a while.  I 
had some difficulty installing Audition 1.0 on a Windows 7 64-bit computer, and 
have not devoted the time to 
determining how accessible the most recent version of Audition is with the 
propper scripts or app under Window-eyes.  
It would be very helpful if someone has really exercised the latest version of 
Audition to know where the gaps might 
be as I did like CoolEdit and Audition.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:01:52 +1000, Peter Scanlon wrote:

>Are folks using cool Edit for editing these days?
>Is it called something else now?
>Are there Jaws scripts?
>Is there a tutorial around in audio or other?

>P.







Re: a files property question

2014-06-29 Thread Steve Jacobson
I'm not certain of the answer, but I believe there is a button to refresh the 
information in the library.  Maybe that has to be done.  Also, there are a lot 
of 
fields in the properties dialog, so maybe there is another that needs to be 
changed.  I must tell you that some of how this all works is still a mystery to 
me.  I 
know that when I changed the file name and the title in one case here that 
Windows Media started displaying it correctly.  Sorry I can't be of more help.

Best regards,

Steve

On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 20:05:18 -0400, John Heath wrote:

>Hi!

>I found the details tab in the properties menu which shows the file titled 
>the way I want; however when playing the song with media player when I check 
>the properties it still lists the track as audio track...
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Steve Jacobson" 
>To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 5:15 PM
>Subject: Re: a files property question


>> With Audio files, you can edit many of the properties using Windows 
>> Explorer.  Select the file and press ALT-Enter.  There is a TAB, the 
>> "Details" tab, that will let you look at and edit many properties such as
>> title, artist, supporting artist, etc.  You will see the values in a list, 
>> but if you pick one and start typing, you can then TAB between them.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Steve Jacobson
>>
>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 15:27:40 -0400, John Heath wrote:
>>
>>>A variant on the thread about cdex. I had the same problem with ripping 
>>>with
>>>Cdex with an album. I manually wrote in the proper information on the 
>>>tracks
>>>themselves but while playing the track with windows media player the
>>>information is still the same audio track one etc.. How do I manually
>>>replace the information so it shows in the property menu while playing the
>>>track? the tracks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 









Re: a files property question

2014-06-28 Thread Steve Jacobson
With Audio files, you can edit many of the properties using Windows Explorer.  
Select the file and press ALT-Enter.  There is a TAB, the "Details" tab, that 
will let you look at and edit many properties such as 
title, artist, supporting artist, etc.  You will see the values in a list, but 
if you pick one and start typing, you can then TAB between them.  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 15:27:40 -0400, John Heath wrote:

>A variant on the thread about cdex. I had the same problem with ripping with 
>Cdex with an album. I manually wrote in the proper information on the tracks 
>themselves but while playing the track with windows media player the 
>information is still the same audio track one etc.. How do I manually 
>replace the information so it shows in the property menu while playing the 
>track? the tracks 









Re: Adobe Audition centre channel extract

2014-06-28 Thread Steve Jacobson
Laurence,

I used Audition 1.5 for a long time, and liked it.  There are two things I can 
suggest.  First,make sure that the sound you are hearing is really part of the 
file 
and not a problem with Audition's playback.  Create the file using the center 
channel extractor and then play it with another program such as Windows 
Media Player.  

Second, I was thinking that the center channel extractor did more than just 
combine channels, and it is possible that combining channels will do most of 
what you want to do.  Try just combining channels and see whether it avoids the 
problem and gets you most of the way there or not.  I think there is an 
item to do that but don't remember where it is any more, or you can probably do 
it by creating a monaural file.  

I had to let Audition go  because I couldn't get it to install on a 64-bit 
system.  It was more complicated than that as I had upgraded from previous 
versions 
and couldn't install one of the previous versions that was required.  I wonder, 
though, if there could be some incompatibility with Windows 7.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 13:45:51 +0100, Laurence Taylor wrote:

>This is what used to be called Cool Edit.

>I am using Audition 1.5 to clean up recording of old 78rpm records.

>The main process involves the "Centre Channel Extract" function
>(since most surface noise is out of phase), and it works very
>well, often needing nothing else to be done.

>However, the resulting file has a low-level repeated burst of
>phase distortion, a sort of "meep ... meep ... meep", which can
>be very distracting.

>I've tried playing with the settings but nothing seems to help
>much, likewise filtering doesn't assist as the meeps are too
>wideband.

>Any ideas as to what it cold be and whay I could do about it, or
>is it just something I'll have to put up with? (Up with which I
>will have to put).

>It's certainly much better than the frying bacon that was there
>before!
>-- 
>rgds
>LAurence
><><
>...Jesus saves - but Joseph scores on the rebound
>---Taglines by Tagzilla (tagzilla.mozdev.org)








RE: Ripping With CDEX:IsIt No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks?

2014-06-26 Thread Steve Jacobson
Tom,

I've written a couple of times but had to reconfirm my membership so don't know 
if they got through.  Therefore, 
I'm sorry if I am repeating myself.

If you still want to figure this out, it is necessary to try to narrow down the 
problem.  Either the CD 
information isn't available on CDEX's databases, something has gone wrong with 
your CDEX install, or something is 
interfering with connections.  Since you have stated that you have seen a "rip" 
button in Windows Media Player, 
I'll assume that my concern that you might be using Window-Eyes and the button 
may not be detected was incorrect.

Have you attempted to see if another CD you feel confident has worked can be 
ripped by CDEX with track 
information?  If you can get CD information through CDEX for another CD, it 
would establish that CDEX is able to 
get information.  This would point a finger at your particular set not being 
entered in the databases that CDEX is 
using.  As others have said, this kind of thing can happen and doesn't always 
seem logical.  If you can't get 
track information for any CD using CDEX, then clearly there is a problem with 
your configuration and it will be 
worth your time to try to track down the problem and resolve it.

Second, I have seen the "rip" button not appear in Windows Media Player when 
Windows Media Player determines it 
can't rip a CD.  This can happen if it thinks it already ripped the CD, or 
possibly if there is data rights 
management involved.  I once had this happen when I did not realize that 
Windows Media Player had already 
successfully ripped a CD for me during a period whan I had the "rip 
automatically" box checked.  I assume that you 
have probably double-checked to be sure the set hasn't already been ripped.

Finally, I had read that you do not have a router, so that couldn't be an 
issue.  Most cable and DSL modems have a 
router built in even if they only have one network connector.  If there is 
wireless capability, there is almost 
certainly a router involved even if it is not a separate piece of hardware.  
These devices also usually have some 
sort of firewall as well, but this isn't something that should have just 
magically changed and therefore started 
causing you trouble.  However, it might not hurt to try unplugging your cable 
or DSL modem if you have it and then 
plugging it back in to get everything to reboot, but only if there seems to be 
no other explanation.  If, for 
example, you can get CDEX to rip even one other CD with track information, then 
you know there is no connectivity 
problem.  If you have some other kind of connection that truly has no router or 
firewall, then obviously this 
paragraph is just wasting your time, although your computer probably has at 
least a Windows firewall.  I hope 
something here is helpful.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 11:18:16 -0400, Tom Kaufman wrote:

>Sounds to me like this Express Rip is something like CDEX in that it gives
>you a couple of choices!  As much as it troubles me, I fear that maybe this
>Hank Williams Complete collection is one of those that CDEX just can't get
>the information from!  I had ripped it a long time ago (this was back before
>I knew that CDEX could be told to title the tracks) so I decided I wanted to
>have the track titles in, but hate to go through the trouble of typing them
>in manually!  This actually is why I left CDEX for a little while as I found
>out that Windows Media would do this for you right out of the box!  Aw but
>this was Windows Media 11; it was much simpler to do back then!  But then
>WMP 12 comes along...and it's just not so "cut-and-dry!"  I did rip a CD
>with Windows Media the other day; it actually showed me the "rip
>button"...but it won't show me that button with this particular CD
>grhrhrhrhrhrhrhrhrowl!
>Tom Kaufman

>-Original Message-
>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Walter
>Ramage
>Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 2:49 AM
>To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX:IsIt No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title
>Tracks?

>Hi.  Not all data base will contain the information you might need.  I've
>just purchased the Porter Wagoner & Dolly Parton 6 disc box set.  This was
>released on the 26th of May this year, I got it 2 weeks after the release.
>However when ripping the discs with CDEX or Express Rip I could get no track
>info and this was a Bear Family box set.  I had to go on the web and find a
>track list and enter the info manually.  It is rather strange because I have
>some very obscure CDs and the Data Base found that info without trouble.
>You might find it of interest that Express Rip gives you the option of two
>Data Bases and if one doesn't g

RE: Ripping With CDEX:IsIt No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks?

2014-06-25 Thread Steve Jacobson
Tom,

I asked earlier if you were using Window-Eyes.  I was thinking you did, and if 
so, there has been a problem with 
identifying some of the buttons on the "Now Playing" window which is where the 
"rip" button is.  If this is the 
case, you could either check the "RIP Automatically" box or you could try NVDA 
which does detect this button.  
This is a known issue for Window-Eyes and it will be corrected.

I was thinking, though, that when you put the CD in that there are options to 
display information about the CD 
even if you don't rip.  I thought if you were seeing CD information that it 
would mean that at least in some cases 
CD information is being retrieved.  This would insure that the problem of not 
getting information was associated 
with CDEX and not with a problem with the CD itself.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 12:43:06 -0400, Tom Kaufman wrote:

>Steve and list:  I've not been able to get Windows Media to rip it at all!
>It won't even show me the "rip button!"
>Tom Kaufman

>-Original Message-
>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Steve
>Jacobson
>Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 12:08 PM
>To: PC Audio Discussion List
>Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX:IsIt No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title
>Tracks?

>Tom,

>Maybe I missed this, but do you get any track information when using Windows
>Media Player?  If you do, this would 
>at least validate that the CD was providing the correct data for lookup.
>Also, if you bought this set used for 
>from Ebay, it is always possible you got a set that was copied incorrectly,
>but again, getting information about 
>the CD from Windows Media Player would show this was not the case.  This
>would at least narrow the problem down to 
>CDEX or the database being accessed.

>Best regards,

>Steve Jacobson


>Best regards,

>Steve Jacobson

>On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 11:17:55 -0400, Tom Kaufman wrote:

>>Okay...so CDEX _doesn't_ used Gracenote; that's what I was wondering!  So I
>>fail to understand why (aafter not having trouble with CDEX giving me the
>>track titles before) why it's doing so now!  It well me be that this CD
>>Bboxed set hasn't been referenced, but it seems strange, for it's a Hank
>>Williams collection that was put out probably ten years ago (iI don't
>>remember the exact year it came out) but I thought surely it could be
>ripped
>>with the track information...but maybe not!
>>Tom Kaufman

>>-Original Message-
>>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
>Alexandra
>>Grünauer
>>Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 3:25 AM
>>To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>>Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX:IsIt No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title
>>Tracks?

>>CDEx never used GraceNote. 
>>You have to install Player.exe to get information from GraceNote that you
>>can also export to CDEx.
>>It is all described here:
>>The url for information and download is:
>>http://www.vuplayer.com/player.php

>>Alexandra
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Peter Scanlon
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 12:53 AM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Ripping With CDEX:IsIt No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title
>>> Tracks?
>>> 
>>> So if Winamp and CDex don't use Gracenote any more, which ripper/player
>>> does?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Byron Stephens
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 8:34 AM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Ripping With CDEX:IsIt No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title
>>> Tracks?
>>> 
>>> It could be your firewall is blocking the connection or it's a cd that's
>>not
>>> been referenced.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Tom Kaufman" 
>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 10:30 AM
>>> Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX: IsIt No Longer Possible To Have Cdex
>Title
>>> Tracks?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Okay...here;'s the latest: I uninstalled CDEX; then installed a later
>>> versionsame results!  I DON'T UNDERSTAND!  To the best of my
>>> knowledge,
>>> I am doing everything correctly (I have written my email where it's
>>> supposed
>>> to go) still..it says "audio track 1; track 1...I must be stupid or
>>> something, for it seems

RE: Ripping With CDEX:IsIt No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks?

2014-06-25 Thread Steve Jacobson
Tom,

Maybe I missed this, but do you get any track information when using Windows 
Media Player?  If you do, this would 
at least validate that the CD was providing the correct data for lookup.  Also, 
if you bought this set used for 
from Ebay, it is always possible you got a set that was copied incorrectly, but 
again, getting information about 
the CD from Windows Media Player would show this was not the case.  This would 
at least narrow the problem down to 
CDEX or the database being accessed.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson


Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 11:17:55 -0400, Tom Kaufman wrote:

>Okay...so CDEX _doesn't_ used Gracenote; that's what I was wondering!  So I
>fail to understand why (aafter not having trouble with CDEX giving me the
>track titles before) why it's doing so now!  It well me be that this CD
>Bboxed set hasn't been referenced, but it seems strange, for it's a Hank
>Williams collection that was put out probably ten years ago (iI don't
>remember the exact year it came out) but I thought surely it could be ripped
>with the track information...but maybe not!
>Tom Kaufman

>-Original Message-
>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Alexandra
>Grünauer
>Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 3:25 AM
>To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX:IsIt No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title
>Tracks?

>CDEx never used GraceNote. 
>You have to install Player.exe to get information from GraceNote that you
>can also export to CDEx.
>It is all described here:
>The url for information and download is:
>http://www.vuplayer.com/player.php

>Alexandra
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
>> Peter Scanlon
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 12:53 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Ripping With CDEX:IsIt No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title
>> Tracks?
>> 
>> So if Winamp and CDex don't use Gracenote any more, which ripper/player
>> does?
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Byron Stephens
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 8:34 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Ripping With CDEX:IsIt No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title
>> Tracks?
>> 
>> It could be your firewall is blocking the connection or it's a cd that's
>not
>> been referenced.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Tom Kaufman" 
>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 10:30 AM
>> Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX: IsIt No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title
>> Tracks?
>> 
>> 
>> Okay...here;'s the latest: I uninstalled CDEX; then installed a later
>> versionsame results!  I DON'T UNDERSTAND!  To the best of my
>> knowledge,
>> I am doing everything correctly (I have written my email where it's
>> supposed
>> to go) still..it says "audio track 1; track 1...I must be stupid or
>> something, for it seems to work for everybody else!
>> Tom Kaufman
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
>> Kaufman
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 1:14 PM
>> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>> Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX: Is It No Longer Possible To Have Cdex
>Title
>> Tracks?
>> 
>> I'm either down to that...or just trying to see what I can do with Windows
>> Media; so far, no luck there as I cannot find something that says "srip CD
>> (I have a set of instructions that tell me that control-3 will put me
>where
>> I need to be for ripping CDs with Windows Media.  However I have been
>> through all the tabs and there's absolutely nothing indicating to me that
>I
>> can rip a CD with this program either!  Totally frustrated!
>> Tom Kaufman
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
>> Blackwell, Clifford
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 1:11 PM
>> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>> Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX: Is It No Longer Possible To Have Cdex
>Title
>> Tracks?
>> 
>> Maybe delete and reinstall?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
>> Kaufman
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 11:47 AM
>> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>> Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX: Is It No Longer Possible To Have Cdex
>Title
>> Tracks?
>> 
&g

RE: Ripping With CDEX: Is It NoLonger Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks?

2014-06-24 Thread Steve Jacobson
Tom,

Am I remembering correctly that you are using Window-Eyes?  Window-Eyes has 
some trouble with the "rip" button in 
Windows Media Player, but there are some ways around the problem.  The rip 
button shows up on the "Now Playing" 
screen which you can bring up by pressing CONTROL-3.  However, if you have a 
few to rip, there is a Windows Media 
Player option to automatically rip a CD when you put one in and this let's you 
avoid the button.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:59:36 -0400, Tom Kaufman wrote:

>I do; it still isn't doing what I need it to do...which is to put in the
>titles and so forth!  I'd go back to Windows Media, but I'm not even seeing
>a "rip" button in there!
>Tom Kaufman

>-Original Message-
>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Robin
>Frost
>Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:52 PM
>To: PC Audio Discussion List
>Subject: Re: Ripping With CDEX: Is It NoLonger Possible To Have Cdex Title
>Tracks?

>Hi,
>In preferences in the remote CD tab do you have the checkbox for auto 
>connect to remote cddb checked?
>Robin


>-Original Message- 
>From: Tom Kaufman
>Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:22 PM
>To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX: Is It NoLonger Possible To Have Cdex Title 
>Tracks?

>Thanks, Chris; will give it a try!
>Tom Kaufman

>-Original Message-
>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Chris
>Skarstad
>Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:03 PM
>To: PC Audio Discussion List
>Subject: Re: Ripping With CDEX: Is It No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title
>Tracks?

>If it doesn't grab them automaticly, go to your cddb sub menu and arrow
>down to freedb batch query and press enter.  I bet you that'll do the trick.


>On 6/24/2014 11:54 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
>> Yup; that's what my CDEX used to do too!  But that isn't what I found
>> yesterday afternoon (it said audio track 1 01 (and so it went like that) I
>> wouldn't think that the information on this particular CD boxed set would
>be
>> hard to get info for!
>> Tom Kaufman
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Chris
>> Skarstad
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 10:51 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Ripping With CDEX: Is It No Longer Possible To Have Cdex
>Title
>> Tracks?
>>
>> When i ripped my last couple of cds about a month ago I didn't even
>> require the player program you guys are talking about. i just put the cd
>> in the drive, launched CDEX and just like magic, there they were, the
>> song titles properly in the right places.  Then I just hit f9 and off it
>> went, ripping to 320 k mp3.  Nice and fast.
>>
>>
>> On 6/24/2014 2:29 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
>>> So where do you get this "player" program from?  I know it _did_ work not
>>> too terribly long ago, so I don't know what could be different!
>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
>> Alexandra
>>> Grünauer
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 1:47 AM
>>> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>>> Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX: Is It No Longer Possible To Have Cdex
>> Title
>>> Tracks?
>>>
>>> ...get a programme there that's called "Player", download it, install it.
>>> This very blindfriendly program will let you grab the information from
>>> Gracenote, then you could either rip to wav or ogg or export the
>> information
>>> in the player.ini from which cdex is able to read it so you can also rip
>>> into whatever formats cdex supports, i.e. mp3.
>>>
>>> Alexandra
>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
>>>> Kaufman
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:19 AM
>>>> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>>>> Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX: Is It No Longer Possible To Have Cdex
>>> Title
>>>> Tracks?
>>>>
>>>> So what you're saying is, go to the Gracenote site and...and then what?
>>>> Afraid it's just not sinking in!
>>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
>>>> Alexandra Grünauer
>&

Re: further help with audacity, please?

2014-06-17 Thread Steve Jacobson
Deb,

I don't have much experience with Audacity but I do have some experience with 
noise reduction.  What it sounds as though is happening is that you may 
have included too much in the sample of noise that you extracted when you 
started with the noise reduction process.  I think that was covered in a 
previous note, but the first thing you have to do is to isolate a sample of the 
noise you want to remove that does not include anything you want to keep.  
If, for example, you got some of the voices in the noise sample that you want 
to keep, Audacity or any other noise reduction software would include those 
voices as part of the noise you wanted to remove.  

However, noise reduction works best on constant noise.  Therefore, it is also 
possible that noise reduction techniques may not do a good job of getting rid 
of background voices since they are not steady.  It is still worth a try, 
though, as noise reduction may help some.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 20:03:29 -0400, Deb Trevino wrote:

>  

>Hi friends,

>I am Dave Trevino's wife and have more Audacity questions:

>1.  Are there any tutorials that can take me from the very beginning?  I have 
>used Studeo Recorder for editing but that's my only experience. 

>2.  The file I want to work with is a conference call with superimposed (or 
>background) voices.  I want to remove the background voices from the file. 

>3.  I don't understand the parameters in the noise reduction feature as to DB 
>settings, etc.   My attempt to use the NR resulted in lower volume of my total 
file and limited success with removing the offending background speech.  
Suggestions appreciated.  

>4.  I'm trying to do all this without laying out any cash!

>Thanks for help.  

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Re: Bose Companion 2 series iii speakers best ever

2014-06-09 Thread Steve Jacobson
I'm a little confused here.  Are you saying there are full-range speakers of 
the same size and price?  How does 
one define full-range?  In my experience, it is very rare that one can simply 
choose between full-range and 
boombox sound with size and price remaining constant.  I have not heard the 
Bose Companion series so I don't know 
if I would like them or not, but there are times when I have found a good 
boombox sound to be acceptable when the 
speakers fit into a tight space or when they were being used by people who 
might not be careful with them.  I also 
still use a set of thirty-year-old Freid floor standing speakers which were 
considered full range and enjoy them 
as well.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 03:38:38 +1000, Dane Trethowan wrote:

>I'm not at all surprised if what you said also applied to these speakers to be 
>honest, let's put it this way, 
there are some people who have gorwn up with a "Boombox" sound, and they know 
nothing better, that's their thing 
of course, so long as they're happy then that's what matters but there's far 
better audio quality out there than 
"Boombox" audio.



>Dane Trethowan's iPhone at +61400494862 has had the privlidge of delivering 
>the above eMail to you.


>> On 10 Jun 2014, at 3:22 am, "Dan Kerstetter"  wrote:
>> 
>> I have to say I hope they're better than the companion 2.  I had a pair of
>> those and got rid of them asap.  It was like listening to a boom box instead
>> of something with full range.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit
>> Campos
>> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 9:36 AM
>> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>> Subject: RE: Bose Companion 2 series iii speakers best ever
>> 
>> That sounds just about right. I don't know if that price  was exact It's not
>> too far from what I recall US ppricing to be. I've heard them and they are
>> good. I just preferred the Companion 5 multimedia speakers.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
>> Trethowan
>> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 5:51 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Fwd: Bose Companion 2 series iii speakers best ever
>> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> This eMail is forwarded from another list I'm on, this list is an Australian
>> eMail list so I don't know about pricing for these Bose speakers in the U.S.
>> so people may wish to check.
>> 
>> If you're looking for a set of computer speakers at a good value for money
>> price then the set described here may be well worth the look given the price
>> they're being sold for right now.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> 
>>> Just wanted to let folks know about these awesome bose companion 2 
>>> series
>> iii speakers i've just bought.
>>> 
>>> There 149 dollars at the bose store or the apple store or any other 
>>> good
>> re-tailer.
>>> 
>>> Basically these are computer desktop speakers consisting of 2 small
>> desktop speakers no sub and very easy to connect up.
>>> 
>>> There are only 4 cables and a single dial on the front for turning the
>> speakers on and for volume.
>>> 
>>> There is also a 3.5 mm headphone  jack just below the on off volume
>> control and on the back you have inputs for the left speaker, a c power, the
>> input for connecting a 3.5 mm cable then the other end of that cable
>> connects to a pc mac iphone whatever you wish to power.
>>> 
>>> The final input is an aux input for connecting to another device.
>>> 
>>> Keep in mind these are not hi-fi speakers but if your looking for
>> something just for a pc or mac or a laptop, you can't go past the bose
>> companion 2 series 3 speakres.
>>> 
>>> These are the newest desktop speakers in the Bose lineup.
>>> 
>>> Grab a pair today and enjoy crisp clear sound never heard from a pair 
>>> of
>> speakers this small.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> **
>> 
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>> Phone US (213) 438-9741
>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
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>> Twitter: @grtdane
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 








Re: Connecting Apple Tv to an older receiver with RCA aux/ins

2014-05-02 Thread Steve Jacobson
Brad,

There are two ways I know of to get analog outputs from an Apple TV.  First, I 
needed to use an older TV with our 
Apple TV and I bought a small converter for around $35 through Amazon that has 
an HDMI input and two Analog Out and 
a video out.  I ended up running the analog out to a stereo instead and it 
sounded good.  an HDMI cable was not 
included nor is a power supply, but I had to run mine from a USB power source 
for it to run reliably.  There is also 
a switch that allows one to choose between two color display systems.  

Second, there is an audio optical output on the Apple TV and there are 
converters that will convert from Optical 
output to Analog output.  I believe I saw those on Amazon as well.  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Fri, 2 May 2014 11:37:38 -0500, Bradford Trainham wrote:

>The subject line says it all.
>I want to stream audio via my Mac through an Apple Tv and from thence into a 
>receiver with RCA/aux inputs.
>Does a cable exist or does one need a converter box?
>Thanks,
>Brad Trainham









Re: Stereo AM Confirmation

2014-04-10 Thread Steve Jacobson
Dane,

I am fairly certain that we used both in the US and that the Motorola system 
was slightly more common in the end, 
but it was never controlled as you said and that likely hurt its chances to 
succeed.  However, FM really took off 
here in the 80's and 90's and that also probably hurt and may have been the 
biggest reason that AM Stereo didn't 
make it.  Who knows.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 12:10:19 +1000, Dane Trethowan wrote:

>Hi!

>Okay, it seems that Australia used the Motoroller method for transmitting 
>Stereo AM in the end after a battle in 
court over here, the U.S. apparently used the Magnavox method or the Haris 
method, nothing was tightly controlled 
by the FCC until it was far too late .



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Re: Stereo AM

2014-04-09 Thread Steve Jacobson
The recording is interesting.  This recording does show AM stereo's 
capabilities, but I have heard better audio 
from receivers using a wider bandwidth, and of course this recording is getting 
some adjacent channel interference 
as well which would make a wider bandwidth less effective.  While long distance 
stereo here in the United States 
was fun, its most useful application in my opinion was on strong and medium 
strength AM signals during the day 
where a wider bandwith is practical.  That could really sound pretty good.  

How AM stereo is handled when a signal is weaker is really a function of the 
receiver being used.  I found that 
less noise was added when a weak AM signal was in stereo than was the case with 
a weaker FM signal.  Fading also 
affected the stereo image as was shown in this recording.  Both the Sony 
Walkman style radio and my Carver tuner 
went into stereo at very low signal levels.

In my experience here in the US, I cannot say that AM stereo caused additional 
interference.  Stations that used a 
wider bandwidth for greater fidelity would, of course, cause more interference, 
and there was a tendency for AM 
stereo stations to want increased fidelity as well, but I didn't notice more 
interference from the stereo process 
itself, nothing like HD radio now.  It is interesting that AM stereo is still 
being used in some areas.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson


On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 10:49:05 +0100, Colin Howard wrote:

>Dane,

>I note nobody has come back on the DropBox link I posted, details below:

>https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7644179/A.%20M.%20stereo.zip

>file name: A. M. stereo.zip

>I would have thought somebody must have heard this, so why no comments?

>I am interested to know what happens when a little out of the strongest
>signal area?  Does the stereo switch on and off with different signal
>strengths mostly due to fading?

>What is the lowest useable frequency?  Did anybody try stereo a.m on long
>wave?

>Just a few thoughts.









RE: Stereo AM

2014-04-05 Thread Steve Jacobson
I had a Carver TX11 tuner that received AM stereo and also a Sony pocket 
portable that did.  There is no doubt that the current HD system on AM is 
quieter and better sounding, but one has to have such a 
perfect signal that I find it pretty annoying.  In addition, stations that use 
HD on AM have to restrict their analog audio bandwidth.  I actually prefer a 
noisier but more reliable AM stereo system as was used here 
in the US in the 1980's.  Even more, that system did not interfere with 
adjacent stations as does the HD system does now.  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sat, 5 Apr 2014 13:09:27 -0400, Tom Kaufman wrote:

>In the 90s. WSM (Nashville, Tennessee) was in AM stereo; we had an AM stereo
>system in the car (a Lincoln Town Car) I remember riding home from a gig and
>would have the Grand Ole Opry on one night; if the station would come in
>just right, the "stereo" would kick in; it sounded great!  But my first
>experience with hearing AM stereo (again it was with WSM) we had traveled to
>Nashville; we had a Lincoln Town Car; I did not realize that the car was
>equipped with AM stereo!  We had stopped to see about getting rooms (my
>father and I stayed in the car and WSM was on the radio.But then I
>noticed it was in stereo, so I figured "no; that couldn't be WSM!"  So just
>to confirm what I thought my ear was telling me, I asked my father to tell
>me what station the radio was on!  When he said 6500, then I knew and was
>totally amazed at how good it sounded!
>Tom Kaufman

>-Original Message-
>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Evan
>Reese
>Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 12:59 PM
>To: PC Audio Discussion List
>Subject: Re: Stereo AM

>Back in the 80s when I was visiting my parents in California, there was a 
>stero AM station. But I didn't have any stereo AM receivers. But I did have 
>two portable radios. I discovered that if you tuned them just right, you 
>could get the stereo sound.
>Evan

>- Original Message - 
>From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 12:34 PM
>Subject: Stereo AM


>Back to the glory days of radio .

>Actually we do have one radio station in Australia to my knowledge that does

>broadcast in AM Stereo to this day and that's 2CA Canberra, Here's a 
>recording I found on Youtube of a station in the U.S. though I'm not sure 
>when the content was actually aired, quite nice audio so - for those who 
>have never heard stereo AM before - take a moment to enjoy.
>


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Re: RF headset

2014-04-05 Thread Steve Jacobson
Dane,

Are these actual RF or Bluetooth?  I know that technically Bluetooth is RF, but 
I looked for some of the older type of RF headphones a year or so ago that have 
greater range than Bluetooth or similar types and 
found it is getting harder to tell what one is getting when one reads the 
package.  I bought some from Radio Shack, for example, that did not mention 
Bluetooth at all, and perhaps they didn't actually use that 
protocol, but the range was only the range of Bluetooth.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sat, 5 Apr 2014 18:40:51 +1100, Dane Trethowan wrote:

>Okay so what's the headset going to be used for, are you using it with a 
>computer and something like Skype or will you be using it with a radio or 
>something else.

>If looking for a Wireless Headset for your computer then the Logitech H600 is 
>worth a look, their's a nice Plantronics model which I have but can't remember 
>the name of it.

>both headsets are different, the Plantronics is a closed back type whilst the 
>Logitech is an open backed type, both go over the head and ears.


>On 5 Apr 2014, at 1:59 pm, John Chilelli  wrote:

>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I need a decent but smallish, lightweight, over the ear RF headset for my 
>> reading.
>> 
>> Has anyone had any experience with this headset?
>> 
>> Anyone have any good recommendations under $100.00?
>> 
>> http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-RS120-Wireless-Headphones-Charging/dp/B0001FTVEK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396665015&sr=8-1&keywords=sennheiser+head+phones
>> 
>> Sorry, for some reason the link got broken.  It's on Amazon for like $87.00
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> John Chilelli
>> 


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RE: re soundforge

2014-04-02 Thread Steve Jacobson
Steve,

I might have to check Groove Mechanic out.  Mostly, I've been happy with Sound 
Forge's Noise Reduction, but I find 
I have to spend a lot of time playing with parameters to get it the way I want 
it.  It would be interesting to see 
what Groove Mechanic would do on a troublesom short clip of something.  Thanks 
for the info.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 17:25:24 +0100, Steve Nutt wrote:

>Hi Steve,

>I am using SF 11 Pro on a 64-bit system without issue.

>As for Izotope, some of the repair stuff works and some doesn't.  I use EQ
>and Exciter mostly, so I can get vocal detail out of bad recordings.

>I also use a stand alone program called Groove Mechanic, which is primarily
>designed for cleaning up vinyl and tape, but the noise reduction and gating
>is fantastic.  If you have a file with noise on it, then do send it to me,
>and I will process it with GM just to show you how good it is.  GM is about
>30 bucks if I remember right but is completely accessible.  GM is designed
>to get rid of all kinds of hiss and it does it without question.  Crackles
>too.  Anything like that is fair game, even 60hz hum.

>Hope this helps.

>All the best

>Steve
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>-----Original Message-
>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Steve
>Jacobson
>Sent: 02 April 2014 17:20
>To: PC Audio Discussion List
>Subject: RE: re soundforge

>Steve,

>I am using Sound Forge 11 and since we are both on the Window-Eyes list, I
>am assuming you also use Window-Eyes.  
>I had thought I ran in to some accessibility issues with some of the Izotope
>stuff, but perhaps I gave up too 
>soon.  Are there any tricks in using the Repair kit?  I also have not really
>found anything in Sound Forge 11 that 
>makes it less usable than Sound Forge 8, although some things I hoped would
>have been improved were not.  I also 
>was thinking that Sound Forge 8 might not work on 64-bit systems, but I am
>not sure of that.  

>Best regards,

>Steve Jacobson

>On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 08:19:43 +0100, Steve Nutt wrote:

>>Hi,

>>For me the Izotope repair kit you get for free with 11 is advantage enough.

>>All the best

>>Steve

>>--
>>Computer Room Services
>>77 Exeter Close
>>Stevenage
>>Hertfordshire
>>SG1 4PW
>>Tel: +44(0)1438-742286
>>Mob: +44(0)7956-334938
>>Fax: +44(0)1438-759589
>>Email: st...@comproom.co.uk
>>Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk

>>-Original Message-
>>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of brian
>>parker
>>Sent: 02 April 2014 08:10
>>To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
>>Subject: re soundforge

>>Hi, i am back again. apart from the append function i mentioned in my 
>>message to curtis, what other obvious advantages are there in the 
>>versions after seven. brian.




















Re: re soundforge

2014-04-02 Thread Steve Jacobson
Curtis,

Thanks for setting the record straight.  I had an old version of Sound Forge 
and had to upgrade because it would 
not install on my 64-bit system which is why I finally had to upgrade.  I was 
thinking it was Sound Forge 8, but 
clearly it was somewhere before that.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 09:54:19 -0700, Curtis Delzer wrote:

>sf8 works fine on base 64 systems, I am using it.

>--
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>HS.

>K 6 V F O
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>skype: curtis1014



>On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 11:20:28 -0500
>"Steve Jacobson"  wrote:

>> Steve,
>> 
>> I am using Sound Forge 11 and since we are both on the Window-Eyes list, I 
>> am assuming you also use Window-
Eyes.  
>> I had thought I ran in to some accessibility issues with some of the Izotope 
>> stuff, but perhaps I gave up too 
>> soon.  Are there any tricks in using the Repair kit?  I also have not really 
>> found anything in Sound Forge 11 
that 
>> makes it less usable than Sound Forge 8, although some things I hoped would 
>> have been improved were not.  I 
also 
>> was thinking that Sound Forge 8 might not work on 64-bit systems, but I am 
>> not sure of that.  
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Steve Jacobson
>> 
>> On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 08:19:43 +0100, Steve Nutt wrote:
>> 
>> >Hi,
>> 
>> >For me the Izotope repair kit you get for free with 11 is advantage enough.
>> 
>> >All the best
>> 
>> >Steve
>> 
>> >--
>> >Computer Room Services
>> >77 Exeter Close
>> >Stevenage
>> >Hertfordshire
>> >SG1 4PW
>> >Tel: +44(0)1438-742286
>> >Mob: +44(0)7956-334938
>> >Fax: +44(0)1438-759589
>> >Email: st...@comproom.co.uk
>> >Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk
>> 
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of brian
>> >parker
>> >Sent: 02 April 2014 08:10
>> >To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
>> >Subject: re soundforge
>> 
>> >Hi, i am back again. apart from the append function i mentioned in my 
>> >message to curtis, what other obvious advantages are there in the 
>> >versions after seven. brian.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 









RE: re soundforge

2014-04-02 Thread Steve Jacobson
Steve,

I am using Sound Forge 11 and since we are both on the Window-Eyes list, I am 
assuming you also use Window-Eyes.  
I had thought I ran in to some accessibility issues with some of the Izotope 
stuff, but perhaps I gave up too 
soon.  Are there any tricks in using the Repair kit?  I also have not really 
found anything in Sound Forge 11 that 
makes it less usable than Sound Forge 8, although some things I hoped would 
have been improved were not.  I also 
was thinking that Sound Forge 8 might not work on 64-bit systems, but I am not 
sure of that.  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 08:19:43 +0100, Steve Nutt wrote:

>Hi,

>For me the Izotope repair kit you get for free with 11 is advantage enough.

>All the best

>Steve

>--
>Computer Room Services
>77 Exeter Close
>Stevenage
>Hertfordshire
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>Mob: +44(0)7956-334938
>Fax: +44(0)1438-759589
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>-Original Message-
>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of brian
>parker
>Sent: 02 April 2014 08:10
>To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
>Subject: re soundforge

>Hi, i am back again. apart from the append function i mentioned in my 
>message to curtis, what other obvious advantages are there in the 
>versions after seven. brian.












Re: Audio Sample Of Pl880 Radio

2014-03-24 Thread Steve Jacobson
Does anyone know if KNX is HD?  If he went 10 KHZ below or above KNX, which was 
the audio we originally heard, the 
noise could have been the HD noise.  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 08:14:33 +1100, Dane Trethowan wrote:

>I think it more than white noise, interference from somewhere and I'm not at 
>all surprised given that the 
recording was made near a computer but still remarkable audio quality from a 
very small portable.

>On 24 Mar 2014, at 11:06 pm, Hamit Campos  wrote:

>> Sounds pretty good. Sounds like you get a lot of white noise on the AM band
>> though in the spaces between stations. Damb that was a lot of wind like
>> noise.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
>> Trethowan
>> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 5:53 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Audio Sample Of Pl880 Radio
>> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> I sent a review of this radio to the list earlier on today.  Here's a link
>> to some audio samples from the radio recorded by a friend of mine living in
>> Orange County, Tom scrolls up and down the FM band first before turning his
>> attention to the AM band and playing about with the various band with
>> filters.
>> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10565527/PL880.MP3>
>> If link doesn't work the first time then try again in a few minutes, file
>> may still be uploading to Dropbox.
>> 
>> **
>> 
>> Dane Trethowan
>> Skype: grtdane12
>> Phone US (213) 438-9741
>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
>> Mobile: +61400494862
>> faceTime +61400494862
>> Fax +61397437954
>> Twitter: @grtdane
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 


>**

>Dane Trethowan
>Skype: grtdane12
>Phone US (213) 438-9741
>Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
>Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
>Mobile: +61400494862
>faceTime +61400494862
>Fax +61397437954
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Re: Hum from Cable

2014-03-20 Thread Steve Jacobson
Dean,

There have been several suggestions that you might want to check out, a ground 
isolator that could be put between 
your cable and your TV, or someone suggested such a device on your patch cord.  
I have not seen one for patch 
cords so don't know about those.  I bought such a device for a cable many years 
ago, but a search on Amazon might 
turn something up or perhaps others with more recent experience could suggest 
something specific.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 10:15:25 -0400, Dean Masters wrote:

>In the past I would record the programs on VHS then disconnect the cable and 
>play the VHS so I could record on my PC without the hum. so it seems like 
>the only way to record without the hum is to disconnect the cable. But I was 
>hoping not to have to record on one thing then play to record to my PC. I 
>was hoping to cut out the middle man and twice the time to record. Plus I am 
>having trouble with the VHS. The machine also has a DVD recorder if I can 
>figure out how to run that thing. I guess I need to do that then play the 
>DVD after disconnecting the cable.

>Dean


>-Original Message- 
>From: Laurence Taylor
>Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 5:44 PM
>To: PC Audio Discussion List
>Subject: Re: Hum from Cable

>On 19/03/2014 01:52, Dean Masters wrote:
>> I am wanting to run a patch cord from the headphone jack on my TV to my PC
>> to record some shows but there is a hum. I have Comcast cable.

>This sounds like an earth loop of some kind.

>The first thing to check is whether the cable outlet is isolated
>- it should be. Do you use a cable box or does the cable go
>straight into the TV? If you have a box, check if you still get
>the hum with it disconnected. If not, that's the cause of the
>problem and the isolated outlet will cure it.

>If you still get hum without the TV cable connected there are
>other things to check; is the TV connected to anything else? Do
>you have an outside aerial as well, or a satellite receiver?

>If the TV is fitted with a two-pin mains plug, is it the right
>way round? Try reversing it in the socket.

>I'd plump for the cable outlet first, though, it's a very common
>problem.


>-- 
>rgds
>LAurence
><><
>...Life is what happens to you while you are making other plans.
>---Taglines by Tagzilla (tagzilla.mozdev.org) 









Re: Hum from Cable

2014-03-19 Thread Steve Jacobson
Dean,

I'm not sure what you mean about not wishing to raise the volume unless the 
movie has explosions and loud parts.  
I was referring to when you had the patch cord plugged into the headphone plug 
and you were recording.  I am 
assuming that you are not listening to the movie when you do that.  If you 
raise the volume on the TV, you might 
have to lower the record level on the PC.  

The advice to get one long good quality cable rather than using two with the 
RCA connector might be worth a try, 
too.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 16:54:34 -0400, Dean Masters wrote:

>Thanks for all you wrote. Someone said the problem is that Comcast doesn't 
>ground their cables correctly. i did raise the volume and that would be fine 
>if I was recording a movie with all kinds of explosions. but htat is not 
>what I want to record. And I don't have a portable recorder. I do have a 
>VDR/DVD recorder hooked in to that TV so I guess I am goingn to have to 
>figure out how to record with DVD. So far I have taped with tapes but either 
>the tapes are wearing outor the recorder is. I would then disconnect the 
>cable and hook cables to the RCA jacks and run from the recorder to my PC. 
>so it took twice as long to record something on my PC. I was hoping to 
>delete the middle man and save half the time.

>I think to finish the DVD recording I would have to have sighted help to go 
>through the menus or I could rip them onto my PC.

>Dean


>-Original Message- 
>From: Steve Jacobson
>Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:18 PM
>To: PC Audio Discussion List
>Subject: Re: Hum from Cable

>This is probably stating the obvious, but be sure to turn up the volume some 
>on your TV to overcome any residual
>hum that is a part of the TV's circuitry.  If you run your headphones at 
>relatively low volume, you may not hear
>the hum, but when that same signal is fed through another amplifier and 
>played back at a higher volume, hum can
>become evident.  However, that would be too easy a fix.

>Also check where your cable is routed.  Sometimes if a cable is too close to 
>another power supply, even an AC
>adapter, hum can be introduced.

>Finally, the cause is most likely the hardest to fix, that being a ground 
>loop.  This is especially likely if your
>TV is connected to cable TV.  It can be further complicated if your computer 
>is connected to a network through an
>ethernet connection as well.  Try disconnecting the cable from your TV while 
>it is on to see if the hum goes away,
>realizing, of course, this isn't a viable solution.  If the hum does go 
>away, you probably have a groundloop.  We
>tend to think that "ground" is "ground" and this just isn't the case.  When 
>devices are connected to ground
>through multiple paths that take different routes, those paths can 
>themselves create what amounts to one turn on a
>large coil that can pick up hum.  Sometimes to correct such a problem you 
>have to actually disconnect a device
>from ground or isolate devices.  Let's take a quick possible example.  Let's 
>say that your computer is connected
>to internet by being plugged into a router that is connected to a cable 
>modem.  In addition to normal grounds,
>there is a ground on the ethernet cable that connects back to the ground of 
>your router, that connects to the
>ground on your cable modem that connects to the ground or outer shield of 
>the coaxial cable that goes to a
>splitter where the cable splits and goes to your tv.  Now, the ground on 
>your tv is connected to the audio ground
>on your patch cord which connects to the audio ground on your desktop which 
>is connected to your desktops ground.
>We have just described a path that makes a long trip that can be described 
>as a loop.  If disconnecting the cable
>from your TV gets rid of the hum, there are filters that can be placed 
>between a TV and a cable that allows the
>cable's shield to act as a ground for radio and TV signals but not for AC. 
>This would then break this particular
>loop.  Unfortunately, there are other interactions that can cause ground 
>loops so figuring out how to avoid them
>is a pain.

>Of course, if you were able to connect your TV to your desktop using 
>bluetooth, there would be no physical
>connection.  This can be done in a number of ways, but the bluetooth sound 
>might be lower quality.  You also might
>consider recording on aa portable audio recorder and then transferring the 
>results to your computer.  In the end,
>you should be able to record directly on your desktop, but depending upon 
>other factors, the hum may not be so
>easy to eliminate.  Maybe, though, you'll be lucky, and turning up the TV's 
>volume 

Re: Hum from Cable

2014-03-19 Thread Steve Jacobson
This is probably stating the obvious, but be sure to turn up the volume some on 
your TV to overcome any residual 
hum that is a part of the TV's circuitry.  If you run your headphones at 
relatively low volume, you may not hear 
the hum, but when that same signal is fed through another amplifier and played 
back at a higher volume, hum can 
become evident.  However, that would be too easy a fix.

Also check where your cable is routed.  Sometimes if a cable is too close to 
another power supply, even an AC 
adapter, hum can be introduced.  

Finally, the cause is most likely the hardest to fix, that being a ground loop. 
 This is especially likely if your 
TV is connected to cable TV.  It can be further complicated if your computer is 
connected to a network through an 
ethernet connection as well.  Try disconnecting the cable from your TV while it 
is on to see if the hum goes away, 
realizing, of course, this isn't a viable solution.  If the hum does go away, 
you probably have a groundloop.  We 
tend to think that "ground" is "ground" and this just isn't the case.  When 
devices are connected to ground 
through multiple paths that take different routes, those paths can themselves 
create what amounts to one turn on a 
large coil that can pick up hum.  Sometimes to correct such a problem you have 
to actually disconnect a device 
from ground or isolate devices.  Let's take a quick possible example.  Let's 
say that your computer is connected 
to internet by being plugged into a router that is connected to a cable modem.  
In addition to normal grounds, 
there is a ground on the ethernet cable that connects back to the ground of 
your router, that connects to the 
ground on your cable modem that connects to the ground or outer shield of the 
coaxial cable that goes to a 
splitter where the cable splits and goes to your tv.  Now, the ground on your 
tv is connected to the audio ground 
on your patch cord which connects to the audio ground on your desktop which is 
connected to your desktops ground.  
We have just described a path that makes a long trip that can be described as a 
loop.  If disconnecting the cable 
from your TV gets rid of the hum, there are filters that can be placed between 
a TV and a cable that allows the 
cable's shield to act as a ground for radio and TV signals but not for AC.  
This would then break this particular 
loop.  Unfortunately, there are other interactions that can cause ground loops 
so figuring out how to avoid them 
is a pain.

Of course, if you were able to connect your TV to your desktop using bluetooth, 
there would be no physical 
connection.  This can be done in a number of ways, but the bluetooth sound 
might be lower quality.  You also might 
consider recording on aa portable audio recorder and then transferring the 
results to your computer.  In the end, 
you should be able to record directly on your desktop, but depending upon other 
factors, the hum may not be so 
easy to eliminate.  Maybe, though, you'll be lucky, and turning up the TV's 
volume a little will clear up 
everything!

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 14:17:09 -0400, Dean Masters wrote:

>Yes it is to a desktop. All outlets are the three prong type which means 
>they should be grounded.

>Dean


>-Original Message- 
>From: Joe Paton
>Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:15 AM
>To: PC Audio Discussion List
>Subject: Re: Hum from Cable

>Hi,

>are you connecting to a desktop computer?

>You might try grounding your machine if this is the case.

>Joe

>On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 21:52:03 -0400
>Dean Masters  wrote:

>I am wanting to run a patch cord from the headphone jack on my TV to my PC 
>to record some shows but there is a hum. I have Comcast cable. The patch 
>cord is actuallly two cords with male plugs on both ends and a connector 
>with two female plugs.

>When I put headpohones in the jack there is no hum.

>Is there something I can do to get rid of the hum?

>Thanks,
>Dean

>-- 
>Joe Paton 









Re: Apple TV

2014-02-24 Thread Steve Jacobson
Gary,

The Apple TV must be plugged into an HDMI input.  If your cable box lets you 
switch between inputs as a few do, 
this should work.  Still, you have to be more specific if our answers are going 
to mean anything.  How is your 
cable box connected to your TV?  Does your cable box have an HDMI input as well 
as an HDMI output?  Does your TV 
have multiple HDMI inputs assuming that one is being used by your cable box?  
If you are not sure of all this, you 
will need to get someone who is familiar with these kinds of connections to 
give you a hand.  There are other 
variables as well, just too many to guess at.  Cable boxes can generally be 
connected to a TV by HDMI, other 
analog cables, or using an RF coaxial cable putting its signal on a TV chanel, 
but this last is not generally used 
on newer TV's.  Some cable boxes have the ability to add extra inputs, usually 
for games, and an apple TV could be 
plugged into such an input if it is an HDMI input.  TV's themselves often have 
more than one input, often to 
accommodate a DVD player, or games, etc.  an Apple TV could go there as well if 
the input is an HDMI input.  If a 
TV is not an HD TV and if it doesn't have HDMI inputs, one can buy converters 
as mentioned before that will allow 
an Apple TV to be plugged into older style inputs.  To figure this out, though, 
one has to have an idea of how it 
needs to be approached and what is available on a particular TV and Cable box.  
It is really very similar to 
figuring out how you would connect another input device such as a VCR or video 
game except that the Apple TV only 
has an HDMI output for audio and video.  There is another Optical audio input 
that could be used to connect to an 
audio system, but that's separate from the cable box issue.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 03:04:01 -0500, Gary Wood wrote:

>At this time, I don't have it set up, because I had to get a replacement for 
>my cablebox.  You see, when a frind of mine got it plugged in, my cablebox 
>wouldn't work.  I don't know if the box failed because she plugged the Apple 
>TV into it, or not.  I hope that shouldn't effect it though.
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Steve Jacobson" 
>To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 12:31 AM
>Subject: Re: Apple TV


>> Please explain more what you mean.  The Apple TV is an input to your 
>> regular TV so it does not interfere with what you watch on your regular 
>> TV.  The Apple
>> TV only received programming from the internet so it does not receive 
>> cable channels directly.  However, I'm not sure I answered your question.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Steve Jacobson
>>
>> On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 21:50:16 -0500, Gary Wood wrote:
>>
>>>When someone sets up Apple TV, can he or she still watch the cable 
>>>channels normally watched, or can they only watch ones on the Apple TV 
>>>system?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 












Re: Apple TV

2014-02-23 Thread Steve Jacobson
Dane,

I agree, but I would think that he would already know if they had to disconnect 
the cable box, but yes, we need more information.  I had to buy an HDMI to 
Analog converter for about $30 US for mine so I 
could use it through an older TV and that has worked all right.  If he has 
analog inputs that may be an option.  The bottom line, though, is that we need 
to know more about his setup as we have both already 
said.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 05:12:16 +1100, Dane Trethowan wrote:

>Hi!

>I can't comment any further then I have already done on this thread but I'm 
>wondering if the equipment Gary is using has limited HDMI connectivity, that 
>is to say only 1 HDMI port for example, if this is the 
case then that may cause problems given that you either have the Cable Box 
connected or the Apple TV connected so perhaps that's what Gary' getting at 
when he says he should have a choice of watching 
Apple TV or Cable? So Gary yes please, give us more details and I'm sure we'll 
be able to find a solution to the problem.


>On 24 Feb 2014, at 2:28 am, Steve Jacobson  wrote:

>> Gary,
>> 
>> My response last night got stuck so is late, but the Apple TV shouldn't 
>> affect cable at all, it doesn't generally even use the same connections 
>> unless you're 
>> using an HDMI cable from your cable box.  Please explain more about your 
>> setup.
>> 
>> Also, I've had an Apple TV for a year now and am very happy.  There are a 
>> good number of things you can do with it for free.  For example, you can 
>> search for and watch a lot on YouTube, and there is a radio option that has 
>> a good number of options as well.  There is a lot that can be watched on PBS 
>> as well.  While not free, the $7.99 a month Netflix streaming option let's 
>> you watch a lot of stuff on your Apple TV without paying for each program.  
>> If you 
>> have other Apple devices such as an iPhone, there are some things you can do 
>> to share iTunes music between devices, and you can send your iPhone 
>> output to your Apple TV which is nice if you have your Apple TV connected to 
>> a stereo.  You will need an Apple ID, but you don't need to pay to get that. 
>>  
>> 
>> While Dane is correct that there are restrictions, the big one being that 
>> accessing your personal music must be done through iTunes, there are home 
>> sharing options that let you access music from another computer on your 
>> network that provide some flexibility.  I have found the Netflix interface 
>> to be 
>> much nicer than accessing it through a computer.  It would be interesting to 
>> know how Raspberry Pie handles that.  When someone says "It's accessible 
>> but not out of the box and there are several ways to go" as was said about 
>> Raspberry pie, that sets off alarm bells for me.  Since you have already 
>> made 
>> the purchase of the Apple TV, I'd be surprised if you regret it.  What 
>> concerns me a little is that there may not be a clear understanding of what 
>> the Apple 
>> TV is, and some of us can help with that.  Generally, you can pay to get 
>> some programming and you can get some for free, but there aren't really apps 
>> as 
>> such.  You will have to select which input you want to be watching on your 
>> TV, and that isn't always simple on some TV's but can usually be mastered.  
>> However, we need to understand better how your system is set up and what you 
>> already understand so that we don't give you a bunch of useless 
>> information.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Steve Jacobson
>> 
>> On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 04:09:14 -0500, Gary Wood wrote:
>> 
>>> I did buy one.  We tried setting it up the other day, but for some reason, 
>>> I 
>>> couldn't get anything on cable.  What's the advantages of the Rasberry Pie?
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 12:42 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Apple TV
>> 
>> 
>>> The Apple TV is a separate device from your cable system, nothing whatever 
>>> to do with the cable system, are you thinking of buying one? The Apple TV 
>>> is 
>>> a good system, I have one but there are better systems available such as 
>>> the 
>>> Raspberry Pi running XMC Media Center.
>> 
>>> On 23 Feb 2014, at 1:50 pm, Gary Wood  wrote:
>> 
>>>> When someone sets up Apple TV, can he or she still watch the cable 

Re: Apple TV

2014-02-23 Thread Steve Jacobson
Gary,

My response last night got stuck so is late, but the Apple TV shouldn't affect 
cable at all, it doesn't generally even use the same connections unless you're 
using an HDMI cable from your cable box.  Please explain more about your setup.

Also, I've had an Apple TV for a year now and am very happy.  There are a good 
number of things you can do with it for free.  For example, you can 
search for and watch a lot on YouTube, and there is a radio option that has a 
good number of options as well.  There is a lot that can be watched on PBS 
as well.  While not free, the $7.99 a month Netflix streaming option let's you 
watch a lot of stuff on your Apple TV without paying for each program.  If you 
have other Apple devices such as an iPhone, there are some things you can do to 
share iTunes music between devices, and you can send your iPhone 
output to your Apple TV which is nice if you have your Apple TV connected to a 
stereo.  You will need an Apple ID, but you don't need to pay to get that.  

While Dane is correct that there are restrictions, the big one being that 
accessing your personal music must be done through iTunes, there are home 
sharing options that let you access music from another computer on your network 
that provide some flexibility.  I have found the Netflix interface to be 
much nicer than accessing it through a computer.  It would be interesting to 
know how Raspberry Pie handles that.  When someone says "It's accessible 
but not out of the box and there are several ways to go" as was said about 
Raspberry pie, that sets off alarm bells for me.  Since you have already made 
the purchase of the Apple TV, I'd be surprised if you regret it.  What concerns 
me a little is that there may not be a clear understanding of what the Apple 
TV is, and some of us can help with that.  Generally, you can pay to get some 
programming and you can get some for free, but there aren't really apps as 
such.  You will have to select which input you want to be watching on your TV, 
and that isn't always simple on some TV's but can usually be mastered.  
However, we need to understand better how your system is set up and what you 
already understand so that we don't give you a bunch of useless 
information.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 04:09:14 -0500, Gary Wood wrote:

>I did buy one.  We tried setting it up the other day, but for some reason, I 
>couldn't get anything on cable.  What's the advantages of the Rasberry Pie?
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 12:42 AM
>Subject: Re: Apple TV


>The Apple TV is a separate device from your cable system, nothing whatever 
>to do with the cable system, are you thinking of buying one? The Apple TV is 
>a good system, I have one but there are better systems available such as the 
>Raspberry Pi running XMC Media Center.

>On 23 Feb 2014, at 1:50 pm, Gary Wood  wrote:

>> When someone sets up Apple TV, can he or she still watch the cable 
>> channels normally watched, or can they only watch ones on the Apple TV 
>> system?


>**

>Dane Trethowan
>Skype: grtdane12
>Phone US (213) 438-9741
>Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
>Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
>Mobile: +61400494862
>faceTime +61400494862
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Re: Apple TV

2014-02-23 Thread Steve Jacobson
Please explain more what you mean.  The Apple TV is an input to your regular TV 
so it does not interfere with what you watch on your regular TV.  The Apple 
TV only received programming from the internet so it does not receive cable 
channels directly.  However, I'm not sure I answered your question.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 21:50:16 -0500, Gary Wood wrote:

>When someone sets up Apple TV, can he or she still watch the cable channels 
>normally watched, or can they only watch ones on the Apple TV system?  







RE: Victor Reader Stream Upgrade

2014-02-19 Thread Steve Jacobson
Unless I am mistaken, it may not be clear that OOTunes is a gateway to many 
internet stations and is not just one 
station.  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 22:17:47 +0100, Adrien Collins wrote:

>Hi 

>Nothing as yet but it will come, one thing at a time.

>Regards

>Adrien


>-Original Message-
>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On
>Behalf Of Andrea Sherry
>Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 5:21 AM
>To: PC Audio Discussion List
>Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream Upgrade

>So apart from this OOTunes what other internet radio
>services are there?
>Andrea
>On 17/02/2014 3:06 PM, Sunshine wrote:
>> when you say the other service is that what itunes uses to
>get their
>> streams?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Kulvinder Singh Bhogal" 
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 6:30 AM
>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream Upgrade
>>
>>
>> No problem.
>>
>> Kulvinder Singh Bhogal
>> Twitter: @BhogalKulvinder
>> SKYPENAME: bobba2006
>> Tel: +441332 514323
>> Mob: +447581 483856
>>
>> From: Gary Schindler
>> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 12:37 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream Upgrade
>>
>> I am glad you cleared this up.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Kulvinder Singh Bhogal" 
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 4:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream Upgrade
>>
>>
>> Hi there
>>
>> Just to clear up this business about Tunein radio, the
>Stream does not use
>> it but it does use Ootunes like the Apple products do.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> Kulvinder Singh Bhogal
>> Twitter: @BhogalKulvinder
>> SKYPENAME: bobba2006
>> Tel: +441332 514323
>> Mob: +447581 483856
>>
>> From: Howard
>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 5:36 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream Upgrade
>>
>>
>> howard wolcott
>>
>> --
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 8:02 AM
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream Upgrade
>>
>>> Possibly they do and no one has said they aren't.
>>>
>>> On 15 Feb 2014, at 11:57 pm, Gary Schindler
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I thought that Humanware used Tunein Radio.
>>>> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan"
>>>> 
>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 7:48 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream Upgrade
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Okay well that's not too bad then if Humanware are using
>a provider, I
>>>> don't know what the provider is for Apple's iTunes/Apple
>TV Radio
>>>> service, I know that Denon and Panasonic use vTunes and
>Sangean use
>>>> something called Wifi Radio.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 15 Feb 2014, at 9:34 pm, Brian Olesen
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> hi,
>>>>> no not flash, and it's also only afiliated with one
>radio provider. The
>>>>> same one as Apple is using.
>>>>> But there are allot of well known stations like public
>service stations,
>>>>> and even ACB.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Dane Trethowan
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 11:15 AM
>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream Upgrade
>>>>>
>>>>> So can the Victor Reader Stream handle flash streams
>like most other
>>>>> portable Internet Radio devices can?
>>>>>
>>>>> If it can then I'll certainly look at buying one.
>> hi:
>> humanware uses ootunes.
>>
>>>>> One thing than can be said about the new Victor Reader
>Stream is that it
>>>>> has a far better speaker than the older model but then
>again, what
>>>>> doesn't!
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm looking at Daisy players at the moment, the
>Plextalk Pocket looks a
>>>>> very attractive option still even though the processor
>isn'

Re: Sound Forge Pro 11

2014-02-08 Thread Steve Jacobson
Yes, you can have multiple versions of Sound Forge on one computer.  I 
currently have versions 10 and 11.  I believe everything you can do in version 
6 
you can do in 11, but there are some things that are not all that accessible, 
and I wouldn't say that accessibility improved.  However, some bugs have 
been fixed and version 11 will work with later versions of Windows.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sat, 8 Feb 2014 16:24:37 -0600, Kelly Sapergia wrote:

>Hi,

>Currently, I use version 6.0D of Sound Forge, but have been considering 
>upgrading to Pro 11. Has anyone tried this version? If so, how do you like 
>it in terms of accessibility and usability? I've downloaded the demo version 
>of 11, and am wondering if it can be installed alongside version 6?

>Thanks.

>Yours Sincerely,
>Kelly John Sapergia
>Show Host and Production Director
>The Global Voice Internet Radio
>www.theglobalvoice.info

>Personal Website: www.ksapergia.net
>Business Website (KJS Productions): www.kjsproductions.com









RE: Question: Rewinding in Windows Media Player?

2014-02-01 Thread Steve Jacobson
Alexandra,

You are probably partly right but it is more complicated.  I think that rewinde 
works all right on WMA and WAV files for example, and I think it works on some 
MP3's.  Also, I have heard that WinAmp does better 
with this than Windows Media Player on MP3 files.  Therefore, it might be the 
player to some extent but it is also the file type as some files will rewind 
fine in Windows Media Player.  While it is probably true that 
some players handle this better than Windows Media Player, there are a number 
of variables in MP3 files that can make a difference in other cases.  I've had 
MP3 files, for example that will play on my 
BookSense but not on a BrailleNote.  If you have determined that the problem is 
not your bypass key, then there is nothing else you can do, but you might find 
that rewinding does work sometimes.  Also, the 
"seq" slider does seem to generally work, and who knows, maybe this is 
something that will get fixed at some point by Microsoft, or maybe there is 
some other setting that causes this that someone else here is 
aware of.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson


On Sat, 1 Feb 2014 18:56:04 +0100, Alexandra Grünauer wrote:

>Thanks for this information. The bypassing is not the problem because my
>sighted assistant told mea s wellt hat moving backward is not available. 

>The funny thing ist hat moving forward works fine while moving backward
>isn't available. So it can't be the files but must be the media player.

>Take care,
>Alexandra
>-Original Message-
>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Steve
>Jacobson
>Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 6:23 PM
>To: PC Audio Discussion List
>Subject: RE: Question: Rewinding in Windows Media Player?

>I do not believe that rewind and fast forward work on all file types.  In
>particular, I am not sure they work on MP3 files, for example, or at least
>not on all bit- rates.  However, it is possible that CONTROL-SHIFT-B is used
>by your screen reader.  For example. Window-Eyes uses it to toggle between
>restrictions on the mouse pointer keys.  You can get past that by using the
>key that bypasses controls first.  In case of Window-Eyes, pressing INSERT-B
>first will cause CONTROL-SHIFT-B to be passed through to Windows Media
>Player.  One way you can determine if the rewind is working is to find
>"Rewind" in the menus.  Go do "Play and then to "rewind".  If it is not
>functioning, it will say "Rewind" disabled.  Incidentally, I have some MP3's
>where fast forward works but rewind does not.

>Best regards,

>Steve Jacobson

>On Sat, 1 Feb 2014 10:23:05 +0100, Alexandra Grnauer wrote:

>>Hi Humberto,

>>thanks, but the control-shift-b button doesn't work. There must be some 
>>setting that makes it work and I can't find it.

>>How did you make it work?

>>Take care,
>>Alexandra

>>-Original Message-
>>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>>Humberto Rodriguez
>>Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 11:48 PM
>>To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>>Subject: RE: Question: Rewinding in Windows Media Player?

>>Control-Shift-B to rewind
>>Control-Shift-F to Fast Forward

>>Humberto


>>-Original Message-
>>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom 
>>Kaufman
>>Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 5:07 PM
>>To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>>Subject: RE: Question: Rewinding in Windows Media Player?

>>I would kind of like to know this myself, for so far (as much as I can
>>determine) there seems to be no way to do this!  So this is why I use 
>>Winamp!
>>Tom Kaufman

>>-Original Message-
>>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>>Alexandra Grnauer
>>Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 5:02 PM
>>To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>>Subject: Question: Rewinding in Windows Media Player?

>>Hi List,

>>I hope someone can help me. In school my students have to use windows 
>>media player. I read in the menu that the short cut to rewinding or 
>>moving backward in a track is supposed tob e control shift b. But in 
>>the menu it keeps telling me that it is not available and the key 
>>stroke ctrl+shift+b doesn't work either. What do I have to do to make 
>>it work? The fast forward
>>ctrl+shift+f works fine.

>>Any help is greatly appreciated.

>>Thanks in advance.
>>Alexandra


















RE: Question: Rewinding in Windows Media Player?

2014-02-01 Thread Steve Jacobson
I do not believe that rewind and fast forward work on all file types.  In 
particular, I am not sure they work on MP3 files, for example, or at least not 
on all bit-
rates.  However, it is possible that CONTROL-SHIFT-B is used by your screen 
reader.  For example. Window-Eyes uses it to toggle between restrictions 
on the mouse pointer keys.  You can get past that by using the key that 
bypasses controls first.  In case of Window-Eyes, pressing INSERT-B first will 
cause CONTROL-SHIFT-B to be passed through to Windows Media Player.  One way 
you can determine if the rewind is working is to find "Rewind" in 
the menus.  Go do "Play and then to "rewind".  If it is not functioning, it 
will say "Rewind" disabled.  Incidentally, I have some MP3's where fast forward 
works but rewind does not.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sat, 1 Feb 2014 10:23:05 +0100, Alexandra Grnauer wrote:

>Hi Humberto,

>thanks, but the control-shift-b button doesn't work. There must be some
>setting that makes it work and I can't find it.

>How did you make it work?

>Take care,
>Alexandra

>-Original Message-
>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Humberto
>Rodriguez
>Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 11:48 PM
>To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>Subject: RE: Question: Rewinding in Windows Media Player?

>Control-Shift-B to rewind
>Control-Shift-F to Fast Forward

>Humberto


>-Original Message-
>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
>Kaufman
>Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 5:07 PM
>To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>Subject: RE: Question: Rewinding in Windows Media Player?

>I would kind of like to know this myself, for so far (as much as I can
>determine) there seems to be no way to do this!  So this is why I use
>Winamp!
>Tom Kaufman

>-Original Message-
>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Alexandra
>Grnauer
>Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 5:02 PM
>To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>Subject: Question: Rewinding in Windows Media Player?

>Hi List,

>I hope someone can help me. In school my students have to use windows media
>player. I read in the menu that the short cut to rewinding or moving
>backward in a track is supposed tob e control shift b. But in the menu it
>keeps telling me that it is not available and the key stroke ctrl+shift+b
>doesn't work either. What do I have to do to make it work? The fast forward
>ctrl+shift+f works fine.

>Any help is greatly appreciated.

>Thanks in advance.
>Alexandra












Re: wintrans

2013-12-14 Thread Steve Jacobson
Leslie,

If you mean the WINTRANS braille translator, I might be able to help but we 
should probably take it off list since the only thing that is audio are error 
tones.  
WINTRANS as I know it is a Windows program that runs NFBTRANS.  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson


On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 14:52:17 -0800, leslie ferrell wrote:

>Does anyone know how to use wintrans.  I've had it on my computer for a 
>long time and want to use it but forgot how.  thanks leslie
>-- 
>How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are?








Re: What are the common keyboard shortcuts for Goldwave & Soundforge

2013-12-11 Thread Steve Jacobson
If you are able to look at all of the shortcuts used by Sound Forge, Gold Wave, 
and even Adobe Audition, and thorw in Audacity, you will see that these 
programs have so many that conflict that it is hard to 
make any kind of recommendation.  For example, sound Forge uses I for Mark In 
and o for Mark Out.  The arrow keys work somewhat differently.  Copying any 
program's keyboard shortcuts completely might 
also raise issues with those programs.  Each of these programs have some 
shortcuts that are probably not even that important.  To me, the actual 
shortcut chosen is less important than being able to assign a 
shortcut.  Without knowing the scope of his program, it is hard to make 
suggestions.  As many shortcuts as Sound Forge have, there are places where 
more are needed in some of their plug-ins.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 21:24:02 -0500, Petro T. Giannakopoulos wrote:

>I don't have Goldwave here. I am looking for some recommendations when it 
>comes to keyboard shortcuts for editing type software programs.

>Keep up the great work there!


>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Dane Trethowan 
>  To: PC Audio Discussion List 
>  Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 9:09 PM
>  Subject: Re: What are the common keyboard shortcuts for Goldwave & Soundforge


>  I've never assumed that any software - whether it be Audio, Video or 
> anything else - had any particular standard which was adhered to when it 
> comes to keyboard shortcuts apart from those used as 
standard keyboard shortcuts in Microsoft Windows such as Copy To clipboard 
CTRL-C, Paste From Clipboard CTRL-V and so on.

>  With both pieces of software you can customise the keyboard shortcuts to 
> your liking.

>  With Goldwave you'll find a complete Keyboard Shortcut reference in the 
> Goldwave User Manual found under the help menu.


>  On 11 Dec 2013, at 12:54 pm, Petro T. Giannakopoulos  
> wrote:

>  > I am helping a developer with his software program. It will be both a 
> video and audio editing program. He wants to know what you would recommend 
> when it comes to keyboard shortcuts for his editing 
program.
>  > 
>  > I have so far,
>  > { for Start Mark
>  > } for End Mark
>  > 
>  > What about for the slider control? 
>  > 
>  > he will add a context menu key list of options.
>  > 
>  > Any help is greatly appreciated.
>  > 
>  > Thank you.


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RE: Ripping CDs With Windows Media

2013-11-29 Thread Steve Jacobson
Tom,

I agree with you, but there is a sort of logic to it.  If you are playing a CD, 
the CD is not what is "Now Playing" because it takes precedence over your 
libraries.

What happened is that you chose the WinAmp option to "Autoplay" when you put in 
a CD.  You can choose what Windows 7 does automatically with all kinds of 
media.  If you bring up the Start Menu, type 
Autoplay into the Edit box and then use the UP and DOWN ARROW to see what was 
found.  You should see a couple of Autoplay options that will help you.  You 
should be able to find out what will be done 
when a CD is inserted and see that your current choice is Winamp.  You can 
change that to Windows Media Player, or I think there is an option to have it 
ask you what you want done.  You should be able to 
close WinAmp and open Windows Media Player as well, but you might have to 
select Audio CD or something, I have not tried that.  

Also, when I just experimented, I could not get the "rip" button to show, but I 
think it is because I already ripped the CD I put in and it is getting too late 
for me to think clearly.I have ripped a CD within the 
past week, though, by turning on "rip CD Automatically" so that is another 
option that works.  It is in the "Tools" "options" and on the "Rip Music" tab.  
I'm curious about the "Rip" button now, though.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sat, 30 Nov 2013 00:29:08 -0500, Tom Kaufman wrote:

>Hello Steve and list:  I think I saw that "now playing" thing, but it didn't
>sound like this was what I wanted!  Would be nice if these programs would
>say it how they mean it!  Before, there was a definite "start rip" button
>(or something that clearly indicated that this is what you wanted to do if
>you wanted to rip) in case you missed it before, am running Jaws 15 with
>Windows Home Premium.  When I first put the CD in, it gave me choices; one
>of those was "play CD using Winamp.  At the time, I wanted to hear the CD,
>so this is what I chose; problem is that, now when I put the CD in, it just
>brings up Winamp and starts playing!  There seems to be no way to get around
>it; at least not as far as I can tell!  But thanks for your explanation and
>will try to put your instructions to use!
>Tom Kaufman

>-Original Message-
>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Steve
>Jacobson
>Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 6:28 PM
>To: PC Audio Discussion List
>Subject: Re: Ripping CDs With Windows Media

>Tom,

>You can rip them in the version of Windows Media Player that I use, and I
>think it is the latest.  You can rip from the "Now Playing" window which is
>accessed with CONTROL-3, or is probably the window that 
>has focus if Windows Media Player starts automatically when you put in a CD.
>Some screen readers don't read the controls, though.  Another approach is to
>go to the Tools and Options menu and choose the 
>rip tab.  You can choose which format you want them ripped to there, and you
>can also check a box that will rip a cd automatically when you start Windows
>Media Player.

>Unfortunately, how a lot of this works depends upon your "autoplay" settings
>and even your screen reader, but it's worth exploring before you get another
>program.  If your screen reader doesn't read the 
>controls on the now playing window, NVDA should work.

>Best regards,

>Steve Jacobson

>On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 15:37:22 -0500, Tom Kaufman wrote:

>>Hello list:  Is it still possible, using Windows Media Player to rip a CD?
>>I've just tried to rip my first one with this new computer, using Windows
>>Media Player!  However I see nothing that says "Rip" in the menus!  I am
>>running Windows 7 (64 bit) running Jaws 15; is it still possible to do
>this?
>>Or will I need to use another program to rip my CDs?

>>Tom Kaufman














Re: Ripping CDs With Windows Media

2013-11-29 Thread Steve Jacobson
What I think was missed now that I have seen all of the messages is that there 
is no "start Ripping" in the options, he is right.  However, there is a control 
to start ripping on the now playing window, but some 
screen readers don't pick it up.  Tom, which screen reader are you using?  If 
you don't want to rip automatically, you might need to use NVDA for now.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 18:38:05 -0500, ken reed wrote:

>Hi,  Steve gave you good advice.
>It sounds like he's ben there with windows media.


>-Original Message- 
>From: Tom Kaufman
>Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 4:47 PM
>To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>Subject: RE: Ripping CDs With Windows Media

>Ken:  Are you saying that Windows Media no longer is accessible?  This is
>mainly what I used with no difficulty with XP; Cdex is also good; I just
>figured since Windows Media is already here, I could just go ahead and use
>it!  But maybe not; I don't know!  This is why I decided to put it out here
>and see what it is I need to do (if I can even rip) CDs, using Windows Media
>anymore!  Thanks for your responses thus far!
>Tom Kaufman

>-Original Message-
>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of ken reed
>Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 4:15 PM
>To: PC Audio Discussion List
>Subject: Re: Ripping CDs With Windows Media

>This is my advice.  Use cdburnerxp, or egsact audio copy.
>A lot of  people use things like nero also.  I haven't used nero, but I have

>used these above programs.


>-Original Message- 
>From: Tom Kaufman
>Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 3:58 PM
>To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>Subject: RE: Ripping CDs With Windows Media

>Ken and list:  I am attempting to rip a CD using Windows Media Player!  It
>was no problem with my old machine!  However, I find that with windows 7 and
>Windows Media 12, there appears to be no way to rip!  I obviously am missing
>something!  Help appreciated!
>Tom Kaufman

>-Original Message-
>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of ken reed
>Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 3:55 PM
>To: PC Audio Discussion List
>Subject: Re: Ripping CDs With Windows Media

>Hi Thom,  I've seen a wrip there, but if you still have winamp
>theres a wrip in the library, and
>as long as you have a playlist you can creat an audio cd.


>-Original Message- 
>From: Tom Kaufman
>Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 3:37 PM
>To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
>Subject: Ripping CDs With Windows Media

>Hello list:  Is it still possible, using Windows Media Player to rip a CD?
>I've just tried to rip my first one with this new computer, using Windows
>Media Player!  However I see nothing that says "Rip" in the menus!  I am
>running Windows 7 (64 bit) running Jaws 15; is it still possible to do this?
>Or will I need to use another program to rip my CDs?

>Tom Kaufman











Re: Ripping CDs With Windows Media

2013-11-29 Thread Steve Jacobson
Tom,

You can rip them in the version of Windows Media Player that I use, and I think 
it is the latest.  You can rip from the "Now Playing" window which is accessed 
with CONTROL-3, or is probably the window that 
has focus if Windows Media Player starts automatically when you put in a CD.  
Some screen readers don't read the controls, though.  Another approach is to go 
to the Tools and Options menu and choose the 
rip tab.  You can choose which format you want them ripped to there, and you 
can also check a box that will rip a cd automatically when you start Windows 
Media Player.

Unfortunately, how a lot of this works depends upon your "autoplay" settings 
and even your screen reader, but it's worth exploring before you get another 
program.  If your screen reader doesn't read the 
controls on the now playing window, NVDA should work.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 15:37:22 -0500, Tom Kaufman wrote:

>Hello list:  Is it still possible, using Windows Media Player to rip a CD?
>I've just tried to rip my first one with this new computer, using Windows
>Media Player!  However I see nothing that says "Rip" in the menus!  I am
>running Windows 7 (64 bit) running Jaws 15; is it still possible to do this?
>Or will I need to use another program to rip my CDs?

>Tom Kaufman








Re: is there hope for a noisy recording?

2013-11-29 Thread Steve Jacobson
Dale,

Use Audition's noise reduction process.  It has been a while since I used 
Audition 1.5, but I used it a lot at one time, and its noise reduction works 
pretty well.  Even if there are some crackles and pops, I am 
guessing that the noise is fairly constant which is more what the noise 
reduction process is for.  You will have to experiment some to get the best 
results possible, but you might be able to get something 
worthwhile.  The noise reduction process requires that you capture a bit of 
noise only that it can use to compare with your recording to remove.  This 
means you need to find a relatively silent place and use 
that.  Unfortunately, my muddled mind now doesn't remember how it works in 
Audition as opposed to Sound Forge, so if you can't figure it out you may have 
to remind me what options you have.  There are 
several settings you need to play with as well to see what effect they have.  
One thing you might want to to do is to set the FFT value to a high value 
before you capture the noise sample.  It seems to me that 
the sample has to be using the same FFT value.  Generally, the higher the 
value, the longer the process takes but the fewer digital artifacts result.  I 
believe the FFT value was in a combo box and it tends to be 
expressed in powers of 2.  I think 4096 or 8192 are pretty good values.  

Once you have the noise sample, you can mark part of the recording and preview 
your noise reduction with different values.  It is almost certain that you can 
get rid of a lot of the noise.  What is not certain is 
how badly it may affect the remaining sound.  Only you can judge what is 
acceptable.  Usually, one finds that rather than shooting for the miracle cure, 
one is best off getting rid of some noise and leaving some 
noise along with a more intact recording.

As I recall, the Audition help file describes the settings pretty well, but it 
assumes some knowledge so I remember I had to read it a few times before it 
made sense.

Good luck.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson


On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 10:48:28 -0600, DALE HELTZER wrote:

>Here's the situation:

>I brought a PTP-1 to a telethon audition. Because the amplification in the
>room was so high, I set the recording volume of the PTP-1 quite low, but
>because I was in a hurry, I set it *too low.

>When I tried to listen to the recording later, I heard *nothing. In
>disbelief, I put the *.wav file on my computer and normalized it to 99
>percent.

>The result sounds like something Thomas Edison might have recorded on a wax
>cylinder - *very noisy with lots of crackle.

>I've tried using Adobe Audition V1.5's click and pop functions, but don't
>get much satisfaction.

> 

>Any suggestions?

> 

>Thanks.

> 

> 

> 

>Dale E. Heltzer

>dehelt...@msn.com

> 








Re: another soundforge question

2013-10-31 Thread Steve Jacobson
Some versions of Sound Forge have an "append" checkbox in the open dialog.  If 
you have that option, check it and 
each file you open will be appended.  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 09:21:31 +, brian parker wrote:

>Hi, is there any way of using soundforge to join a number of mp3 
>files together to make one file. that is, apart from loading them one 
>by one, and joining them through the clipboard. brian.


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Re: copying audio cd's onto a computer

2013-10-04 Thread Steve Jacobson
Just for the record, Window-Eyes does allow one to drag and drop in a manner 
that is similar to what I remember JFW doing.  


Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 13:47:02 -0400, Dave Scrimenti wrote:

>If WindowEyes doesn't let you drag and drop, try NVDA or a demo of JFW. Or 
>even easier, just have your sighted friend move the files to your PC. After 
>all, how often are you going to encounter these unfinalized CD's? As long as 
>you can play them, and copy and paste them to an external drive, you don't 
>have to use the CD's again. I know you want to do it yourself, but why go 
>through all this unnecessary trouble for something you'll rarely if ever 
>have to do in the future?
>- Original Message - 
>From: "john riehl" 
>To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 12:57 PM
>Subject: RE: copying audio cd's onto a computer


>> As I said, a sighted friend can drag and drop with no problem but I am not
>> able to copy and paste. The drive reads the CDs fine and once I get them
>> onto my C drive they play fine. It's figuring out that intermediate step
>> that's the problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary
>> Petraccaro
>> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 10:49 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: copying audio cd's onto a computer
>>
>>
>>
>> It just occurred to me after reading your other message that unless it's 
>> the
>> same kind of drive, and maybe the same software, it can't read unfinalized
>> disks.  I put one of these in
>> my current drive from another drive where I didn't finalize and it 
>> wouldn't
>> play or read.  In my case, it was a movie and the software to read the 
>> disk
>> couldn't possibly be the same.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Steve Jacobson" 
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 9:31 AM
>> Subject: Re: copying audio cd's onto a computer
>>
>>
>>>I am seeing a lot of responses as to how he can rip these CD's, but from
>>>what he has said, it seems to me that his CD's are
>>> unfinalized data CD's with MP3 files.  Therefore, I'm not sure that
>>> "ripping" them will work, unless some have had experience to
>>> the contrary.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Steve Jacobson
>>>
>>> On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 21:16:34 -0500, Sunshine wrote:
>>>
>>>>or ez audio converter will help you rip them to your computer.
>>>
>>>>- Original Message -
>>>>From: "Howard Traxler" 
>>>>To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 12:22 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: copying audio cd's onto a computer
>>>
>>>
>>>>CDex or Express Rip.
>>>>- Original Message -
>>>>From: "john riehl" 
>>>>To: "pcaudio" 
>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 12:11 PM
>>>>Subject: copying audio cd's onto a computer
>>>
>>>
>>>>> I've just purchased a number of old-time radio shows on cd. I want to
>>>>> copy
>>>>> them onto my computer. I tried copying and pasting the files but that
>>>>> did
>>>>> not work.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have Nero burning  Rom, but I can't find an option to copy a CD onto
>>>>> my
>>>>> computer. I've done this with XP, but am now using Windows-7. Anybody
>>>>> got
>>>>> any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> John riehl
>>>>>
>>>>>
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RE: copying audio cd's onto a computer

2013-10-04 Thread Steve Jacobson
John,

I don't mind writing you off list but I don't know what else to suggest and 
others on this list probably have more experience with 
dealing with unfinalized CD's than I do.  It might help if you would explain 
what happens when you put the CD in.  Do you get 
Autoplay options?  Are you able to play the files on the CD with your computer? 
 Are you seeing a Windows Explorer sort of list or 
are you seeing some other software coming up with the list?  If you are not 
seeing a Windows Explorer list, have you tried opening 
Windows Explorer and finding the CD there to see if that allows you to copy?  I 
mentioned that I use Window-Eyes, but I don't 
think this is a screen reader problem.  If you have done the same thing with 
the same CD under Windows XP, it seems unlikely that 
it won't work under Windows 7, so it seems as though something extra is 
probably occurring of which we are not aware.  While I'm 
all right at digging out facts, I don't consider myself an expert in this area, 
which is why I have kept this on the list for now.  


Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Fri, 04 Oct 2013 09:48:12 -0400, john riehl wrote:

>Steve, rather than tying up the list, can you e-mai me off-list?

>These are unfinished CD's; I don't remember seeing a "copy" option when I
>hit the context key. I want to copy all of the files from the CDs onto my
>computer. 

>  Thanks for all of your suggestions.

>John 

> 

>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Steve
>Jacobson
>Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 4:13 PM
>To: PC Audio Discussion List
>Subject: RE: copying audio cd's onto a computer

> 

>John,

>Strictly speaking, even though you have audio files on the CD, it is likely
>a "data" CD since it is holding many MP3 files.  An
>audio CD has a fairly prescribed format and you can only get about 75
>minutes, give or take a few, on a CD.  Normally you can
>treat a data CD as you would treat an external file.

>Are you trying to copy selected files, or do you want to copy the whole CD?
>If you are saying the disk was not "finalized," I'm
>not certain what the best approach would be.  When you put the CD in, can
>you look at the files with Windows Explorer?  If you
>can, try pressing the "applications" key, the one that brings up the context
>menu, and check to see what options there are.  can
>you play the files on your computer?  I am just trying to determine what
>functionality is being affected by the disk not being
>finalized.  The next time you have a sighted person there, try to determine
>if the problem is that you cannot select files to be
>copied, or if the problem is with pasting it.  Still, if you can select a
>file and press ENTER to play it, then selecting the file
>and seeing what the Applications key choices are might be helpful.  I have
>seen situations where there was a "copy" option in the
>Application Key menu that worked when CONTROL-C did not work, for example,
>although that is very rare.  As you may know from the
>GW Micro lists, I am also a Window-Eyes user.

>Best regards,

>Steve Jacobson

>On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 14:17:33 -0400, john riehl wrote:

>>They are audio, mp3 cd's. I tried copying and pasting but that didn't work;
>>apparently the discs weren't "finished". A sighted friend can drag and drop
>>the files, but I don't know how to do that with Windoweyes.

>>

>>

>>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Steve
>>Jacobson
>>Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 2:12 PM
>>To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>Subject: Re: copying audio cd's onto a computer

>>

>>John,

>>First, you need to determine if the old radio shows are stored as MP3 or
>>other audio file types, or if the CD is an audio CD.  If
>>they are stored as MP3 files or files in some other format, then you should
>>be able to cut and paste them and knowing exactly what
>>you did and what happened would be helpful.  If the CD contains MP3 files,
>>than there would be many hours of programming on a
>>single CD.

>>If each CD contains only an hour or a little more of programming, then the
>>CD is probably an Audio CD and you will need to "rip"
>>the cd to your computer.  Even Windows Media Player can do that but there
>is
>>other software as well.

>>Best regards,

>>Steve Jacobson

>>On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 13:11:15 -0400, john riehl wrote:

>>>I've just purchased a number of old-time radio shows on cd. I want to copy
>>>them onto my computer. I tried copying and pasting the files but that did
>>>not work.

>>>I have Ner

Re: Marking in and out points in Sound Forge

2013-10-04 Thread Steve Jacobson
Steve,

I don't have a copy of Sound Forge here at work or I would be more specific, 
but when I am going to delete something I use the key 
that reads the pre-roll and post-roll without reading the selection which I 
believe is CONTROL-K.  This, in effect, shows me how 
the delete will work without actually performing the deletion.  That allows me 
to avoid having to undo the action.  This also 
allows me to see in advance that my selection isn't what I expected.  I've had 
the same problem that you have had where sometimes 
it seems that the beginning of my selection is stuck at a previous point 
instead of where I just marked.  I've had this problem 
with a good number of versions of Sound Forge now so I assume this is probably 
not a bug but rather something I am not 
understanding.  It is probably obvious visually.  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Fri, 04 Oct 2013 08:18:05 -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:

>I am having two troubles with this. First, how do you know where the
>marks are once you press the I or O keys? Second, if you mark
>something, then delete it, decide you don't like how it sounds and
>want to do it over, and use the Undo function, what happens to the
>markers? Are they brought back, or do you have to re-mark? Third,
>after marking in and out points and deleting, sometimes when I press
>the PageUp key, I get thrown back to some previously marked point, or
>I discover that the in mark is somewhere way off in the distance. How
>did that happen, and how do I prevent it from happening? It doesn't
>happen often, but when it does, it's a major source of annoyance and
>frustration because it means I have to go back and redo something I
>thought I'd done right the first time but hadn't.

>TIA if you know what's going on and set me straight on it.

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Re: copying audio cd's onto a computer

2013-10-04 Thread Steve Jacobson
I am seeing a lot of responses as to how he can rip these CD's, but from what 
he has said, it seems to me that his CD's are 
unfinalized data CD's with MP3 files.  Therefore, I'm not sure that "ripping" 
them will work, unless some have had experience to 
the contrary.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 21:16:34 -0500, Sunshine wrote:

>or ez audio converter will help you rip them to your computer.

>- Original Message - 
>From: "Howard Traxler" 
>To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 12:22 PM
>Subject: Re: copying audio cd's onto a computer


>CDex or Express Rip.
>- Original Message - 
>From: "john riehl" 
>To: "pcaudio" 
>Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 12:11 PM
>Subject: copying audio cd's onto a computer


>> I've just purchased a number of old-time radio shows on cd. I want to copy
>> them onto my computer. I tried copying and pasting the files but that did
>> not work.
>>
>> I have Nero burning  Rom, but I can't find an option to copy a CD onto my
>> computer. I've done this with XP, but am now using Windows-7. Anybody got
>> any ideas?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> John riehl
>>
>>
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RE: copying audio cd's onto a computer

2013-10-04 Thread Steve Jacobson
John,

Strictly speaking, even though you have audio files on the CD, it is likely a 
"data" CD since it is holding many MP3 files.  An 
audio CD has a fairly prescribed format and you can only get about 75 minutes, 
give or take a few, on a CD.  Normally you can 
treat a data CD as you would treat an external file.

Are you trying to copy selected files, or do you want to copy the whole CD?  If 
you are saying the disk was not "finalized," I'm 
not certain what the best approach would be.  When you put the CD in, can you 
look at the files with Windows Explorer?  If you 
can, try pressing the "applications" key, the one that brings up the context 
menu, and check to see what options there are.  can 
you play the files on your computer?  I am just trying to determine what 
functionality is being affected by the disk not being 
finalized.  The next time you have a sighted person there, try to determine if 
the problem is that you cannot select files to be 
copied, or if the problem is with pasting it.  Still, if you can select a file 
and press ENTER to play it, then selecting the file 
and seeing what the Applications key choices are might be helpful.  I have seen 
situations where there was a "copy" option in the 
Application Key menu that worked when CONTROL-C did not work, for example, 
although that is very rare.  As you may know from the 
GW Micro lists, I am also a Window-Eyes user.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 14:17:33 -0400, john riehl wrote:

>They are audio, mp3 cd's. I tried copying and pasting but that didn't work;
>apparently the discs weren't "finished". A sighted friend can drag and drop
>the files, but I don't know how to do that with Windoweyes. 

> 

> 

>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Steve
>Jacobson
>Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 2:12 PM
>To: PC Audio Discussion List
>Subject: Re: copying audio cd's onto a computer

> 

>John,

>First, you need to determine if the old radio shows are stored as MP3 or
>other audio file types, or if the CD is an audio CD.  If
>they are stored as MP3 files or files in some other format, then you should
>be able to cut and paste them and knowing exactly what
>you did and what happened would be helpful.  If the CD contains MP3 files,
>than there would be many hours of programming on a
>single CD. 

>If each CD contains only an hour or a little more of programming, then the
>CD is probably an Audio CD and you will need to "rip"
>the cd to your computer.  Even Windows Media Player can do that but there is
>other software as well.

>Best regards,

>Steve Jacobson

>On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 13:11:15 -0400, john riehl wrote:

>>I've just purchased a number of old-time radio shows on cd. I want to copy
>>them onto my computer. I tried copying and pasting the files but that did
>>not work.

>>I have Nero burning  Rom, but I can't find an option to copy a CD onto my
>>computer. I've done this with XP, but am now using Windows-7. Anybody got
>>any ideas?

>>

>>   

>>

>>John riehl

>>

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Re: copying audio cd's onto a computer

2013-10-03 Thread Steve Jacobson
John,

First, you need to determine if the old radio shows are stored as MP3 or other 
audio file types, or if the CD is an audio CD.  If 
they are stored as MP3 files or files in some other format, then you should be 
able to cut and paste them and knowing exactly what 
you did and what happened would be helpful.  If the CD contains MP3 files, than 
there would be many hours of programming on a 
single CD.  

If each CD contains only an hour or a little more of programming, then the CD 
is probably an Audio CD and you will need to "rip" 
the cd to your computer.  Even Windows Media Player can do that but there is 
other software as well.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 13:11:15 -0400, john riehl wrote:

>I've just purchased a number of old-time radio shows on cd. I want to copy
>them onto my computer. I tried copying and pasting the files but that did
>not work.

>I have Nero burning  Rom, but I can't find an option to copy a CD onto my
>computer. I've done this with XP, but am now using Windows-7. Anybody got
>any ideas?

> 

>

> 

>John riehl

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Re: Help needed with Best Buy HD radio

2013-09-27 Thread Steve Jacobson
Don,

Hold down the PRESET button that you are not using to delete.  As I recall, the 
DOWN button deletes and the UP button stores.  
Remember, though, that presets are accessed in the order of their frequency and 
not the order in which you enter them which I 
think is poor.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:32:52 -0700, Donald L. Roberts wrote:

>I apologize for asking this question here, but I completely struck out 
>on Blind tech.

>I bought the now discontinued HD radio from Best Buy. This set is 
>nothing to get excited about but does have a few nice features. I cannot 
>seem to locate the accessible instructions for operating this radio, and 
>I cannot recall how to save a station in the presets. I can delete a 
>preset but can't save one. Please if anyone on list has this thing and 
>knows the answer, please tell me how to save a preset. Additionally, if 
>someone can point me to an accessible set of instructions I would be 
>most grateful.

>Thanks for any assistance.

>Don Roberts

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Re: AC line filter question

2013-09-11 Thread Steve Jacobson
John,

Here are a couple of thoughts on this, although Gary may have some better ideas.

First, have you been able to establish whether you hear the high-pitched sound 
when recordings are being monitored?  I have seen 
it happen where sounds like this are introduced particularly when playing back 
a recording made at a lower sampling rate.  

If you can hear the sound while monitoring the mixer through your computer, 
then check each of your inputs by turning all of the 
gains down to see if this problem is being introduced by a particular input.  
Extraneous noise can easily be introduced by a 
microphone input if nothing is plugged in but the gain is up for example.  If 
you find that a particular input is causing the 
problem, then determine if it remains if you disconnect the cable to that 
input.  Knowing which device is causing the problem 
might help us come up with ideas.  

Make sure your mixer isn't sitting on top of or just underneath another device 
such as a modem or router.

If you find that you still hear the pitch even with all inputs durned down, the 
problem is harder to find.  However, it is still 
worth unplugging all cables to the mixer except the USB cable that connects it 
to the computer to see if the sound disappears.  If 
it does not, you should look at options that affect the USB  interface to your 
computer.  Even trying another USB input or another 
USB cable is worth while.  If disconnecting all cables even with the gain 
turned down removes the problem, reconnect each cable 
until you figure out which cable starts the problem.  If a digital device is 
connected to that cable, it is possible that the 
analog output of the digital device doesn't have remaining digital signals 
filtered out very well.  Another possibility is that 
you have what is called a ground loop.  Ground loops most often cause AC hum to 
be added, but they can cause digitial interference 
as well.  They result when a device has two separate ground paths going to a 
computer.  For example, if you had an audio player 
connected to computer speakers that are also connected to your computer, a 
ground path will exist from that device to your 
speakers and then to your computer.  If that device is also connected to the 
mixer, a second ground path exists from the device, 
through the mixer, and then to your computer through the USB cable.  This isn't 
an exact science, though, and it can depend some 
on how various devices are designed, and whether your mixer accepts digital 
inputs as well as analog inputs and on and on.  But 
you have to narrow down the cause before you can attack it.

Another thing to check is whether you have other devices that might emit 
interference that is getting into your system.  For 
example, older computer monitors or televisions can emit interference.  If such 
a device is too close to your equipment, this can 
get into your system and result in audible interference when it mixes with 
other digital signals.  

Good luck.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 22:45:44 -0400, John Chilelli wrote:

>Gary,

>I'm using a new Allen -Heath Zed 10Fx mixing board with usb interface  
>and my cableing is brand new as well.  My Win 7 I3, 8gb computer is also 
>brand new and I'm using Audacity 2.0.3.  In a way I'm glad you don't 
>think that it is line noise  interference.   But how do I go about 
>finding the problem?  Oh I forgot to mention that I'm using one of two 
>new EV voice quality mics and a Kurzwell K2600.  Any suggestions on how 
>I go about finding where the problem may be is appreciated.

>Thanks,

>John
>On 9/10/2013 10:14 PM, Gary Schindler wrote:
>> That doesn't sound like an AC line problem. If you had an AC line 
>> problem you would hear a 60 or 120 HZ hum. it wouldn't be high pitched.
>>
>> It may be noisy circuitry in your mixer, coupled with a cabling 
>> problem, such as poor shielding or an impedance mismatch.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "John Chilelli" 
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 5:48 PM
>> Subject: AC line filter question
>>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I am experiencing some sort of high pitch line noise in my 
>>> recordings.  I am using an Allen - Heath mixing board with a usb 
>>> interface into my Windows 7 computer using Audacity 2.0.4.  I was 
>>> told that I should look into an AC line adapter, but I'm afraid that 
>>> the entire electrical system for tha room I am using is on one 
>>> circut, including overhead lights and fans.  I wish to be able to get 
>>> rid of this line noise that exists even with the overhead fan off.  
>>> Can anyone make a good suggestion as to what I should do for this 
>>> pro

Re: comparing adobe audition and audacity

2013-09-05 Thread Steve Jacobson
Although I would not argue with the assessment of Audition, apparently Audition 
makes some of its information available through 
MSAA, or possibly UI Automation, so there is some possibility that it could be 
made more accessible with scripting.  However, I 
think there are still gaps in the accessibility.  I was a CoolEdit and Audition 
user through 1.5 and liked the program and was 
frustrated to see this change, but I thought it was worth mentioning that if 
someone needs to use Audition for some reason, there 
might be some possibilities that have not been explored because of the 
availability of other alternatives.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson


On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 15:49:53 +1000, Robert Nelson wrote:



>To the best of my knowledge, Audition is not accessible with Jaws and is not 
>likely to be at any time in the future.

>Audacity, on the other hand, is very accessible using a screen reader as 
>blind people have played a central role in its development.

>Audacity is a multi-track editor and has various audio processing plug ins 
>which make it possible to produce a high quality stereo output.

>However, for the first time user, Audacity can be quite daunting unless you 
>are prepared to read the manual and experiment.

>Bob Nelson

>- Original Message - 
>From: "Andr‚ van Deventer" 
>To: 
>Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 2:36 AM
>Subject: comparing adobe audition and audacity


>> Hi all
>>
>>
>>
>> Another of my silly home recording questions.  This is after I have spoken
>> to a friend of mine.
>>
>>
>>
>> What is the difference between adobe audition and  audacity?  Do they
>> perform the same function.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is adobe audition also accessible with Jaws 14 on windows 7?
>>
>>
>>
>> Just curious!
>>
>>
>>
>> Andre
>>
>>
>>
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Re: question

2013-09-04 Thread Steve Jacobson
Thanks.  I guess I only used the noise reduction plug-ins on the 
"effects" menu and they don't appear to have changed.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson
main noise reduction 
On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 09:17:15 -0700, Curtis Delzer wrote:

>Some of the noise plug-in dialogs are not as accessible after v8, that
>has been my experience, otherwise it is similar.

>--
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>HS.

>K 6 V F O
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>On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 06:09:34 -0500
>"Steve Jacobson"  wrote:

>> Curtis,
>> 
>> I don't want to have given Joe bad advice, but I didn't notice much of what 
>> I did with Sound Forge 6 to be less accessible in 
version 10 and 11, but there 
>> has been stuff added that is not all that accessible.  I don't know about 
>> Sound Forge 7, but I upgraded because I could not get 
version 6 to work with 
>> Windows 7 64-bit.  Am I missing something?
>> 
>> On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 01:21:51 -0700, Curtis Delzer wrote:
>> 
>> >I would upgrade no higher than sf8 if you can get it.  SF10 or now it is
>> >sf11 isn't quite as accessible as 8 and earlier.
>> 
>> >--
>> >Curtis Delzer.
>> >HS.
>> 
>> >K 6 V F O
>> >San Bernardino, CA.
>> 
>> >curtis1...@verizon.net
>> 
>> >skype: curtis1014
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> >On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 09:03:51 +0100
>> >"Joe Bollard"  wrote:
>> 
>> >> eureka, it worked, a different USB cable and we're in business thanks 
>> >> folks, for all your help, thinking now of upgrading 
from sound forge seven to 
>> sound forge ten, is there much of a difference? and will i have to get new 
>> scripts? thanks again all of you, god bless, travel 
safely, joe., 
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Re: question

2013-09-04 Thread Steve Jacobson
Joe,

Sound Forge 11 is out now.  The basic interfaces are not much different, but 
there has been quite a number of things added.  Some of what has been 
added is not accessible with screen readers, though, like some of the new 
plug-ins.  However, I have not concentrated on figuring them out, so perhaps 
there is a way to handle it if one works at it.  I think that being ab le to 
create a CD from inside Sound Forge might be new since 7, and I've used that 
successfully.  Also, sound Forge 11 has a "transport" menu item so that you can 
get at transport controls from the menu bar instead of needing to get to 
the transport controls window.  Of course, most have keyboard shortcuts, but 
sometimes it is handy to have the pulldown menu when you can't remember 
a specific shortcut.  Sound Forge 11 as made some changes to the Record dialog, 
too, which mostly is accessible, although I have not used it much.  I 
really can't comment on the multi-track capability to know if that has changed 
or is better.  I went from Sound Forge 6 to 10 and did not find the things I 
did 
to have changed much.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson
On Wed, 4 Sep 2013 09:03:51 +0100, Joe Bollard wrote:

>eureka, it worked, a different USB cable and we're in business thanks folks, 
>for all your help, thinking now of upgrading from sound forge seven to sound 
>forge ten, is there much of a difference? and will i have to get new 
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Re: question

2013-09-04 Thread Steve Jacobson
Curtis,

I don't want to have given Joe bad advice, but I didn't notice much of what I 
did with Sound Forge 6 to be less accessible in version 10 and 11, but there 
has been stuff added that is not all that accessible.  I don't know about Sound 
Forge 7, but I upgraded because I could not get version 6 to work with 
Windows 7 64-bit.  Am I missing something?

On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 01:21:51 -0700, Curtis Delzer wrote:

>I would upgrade no higher than sf8 if you can get it.  SF10 or now it is
>sf11 isn't quite as accessible as 8 and earlier.

>--
>Curtis Delzer.
>HS.

>K 6 V F O
>San Bernardino, CA.

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>skype: curtis1014



>On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 09:03:51 +0100
>"Joe Bollard"  wrote:

>> eureka, it worked, a different USB cable and we're in business thanks folks, 
>> for all your help, thinking now of upgrading from sound forge seven to 
sound forge ten, is there much of a difference? and will i have to get new 
scripts? thanks again all of you, god bless, travel safely, joe., 
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Re: Apple TV

2013-08-01 Thread Steve Jacobson
For what it is worth, Amazon has HDMI to Analog converters and I had to buy one 
to use our Apple TV with the old TV.  The first one 
didn't work but the second one seems fine.  It converts the HDMI signal to a 
video out jack and stereo audio outputs.  The autio is 
fine and I hear the picture isn't super but good enough to get by.  I think I 
paid around forty dollars for it so it isn't cheap.  I 
also had to buy an HDMI cable with our Apple TV as it was not included.  Amazon 
actually had a bundle of Apple TV, HDMI Cable and the 
HDMI to analog converter.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 15:58:11 -0400, Merv Keck wrote:

>I've been thinking about getting an Apple TV but our 52 or 54 inch HDTV is a 
>2004 model and does not have an HDMI jack. We currently have a Roku 2 
>however, my eyes have got to the point that out of the over 500 channels 
>available on the roku I can see to access like 5 of them and Roku does not 
>seem like they are interested in accessibility. I have written to them 
>several times concerning accessibility and noted the Apple TV. A friend of 
>ours has the Apple TV and I liked what I saw however I am not sure I can 
>make it work with our current setup. I just recently dropped Hulu plus 
>because it has got so ftrustrating to use not only on the iPhone but also on 
>the PC and the Roku. 


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Re: Apple TV

2013-08-01 Thread Steve Jacobson
Gary,

To get your Apple TV going, you could move the HDMI cable from your cable box 
to your Apple TV.  That should work.  You probably 
don't want to do that in the long run, though, as those connectes may not stand 
up to that kind of frequent connecting and 
disconnecting.  As someone else mentioned, it is quite possible you have a 
second HDMI input on your TV, and if that is the case 
you will probably want to use a separate HDMI cable to connect your apple TV to 
that input.  You will need to be able to switch 
between inputs in that case, cable box or Apple TV using your TV's remode.  

The problem is that we could be giving you useless information since I don't 
know if you have a second HDMI input on your TV, nor 
do I know if you might have an HDMI input on your cable box.  I've seen cable 
boxes with game inputs for example.  You probably 
need someone there to work with you on this to figure out the best solution, or 
gather some additional information so we can be of 
better assistance.  TV's and even cable boxes nowadays can vary a good deal in 
terms of inputs and outputs.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Wed, 31 Jul 2013 20:40:38 -0500, Gary Wood wrote:

>Thanks Steve.  Maybe I shouldn't have given you this much yet.  One end of 
>my hdmi cable is connected to the cable box, and the other end is connected 
>to my TV.  Now the end that is connected to the cablebox, should that end be 
>connected to the Apple TV?
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Steve Jacobson" 
>To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 12:21 PM
>Subject: Re: Apple TV


>> Gary,
>>
>> Yes, Apple TV comes with its own remote but it doesn't look like a normal 
>> remote.  It is very thin and fairly narrow and is made
>> of metal.  When you open your Apple TV, you could easily miss it.  As I 
>> mentioned bfore, it has only a few buttons.  If you have
>> not opened the box yet, you definitely should check out some of the 
>> resources and read about it to make sure you have everything
>> you need.  For example, I don't think mine came with an HDMI cable, so if 
>> you got this as a result of an auction, you will need to
>> see if you have an HDMI cable for it.  It sounds as though we may be 
>> giving you too much information too quickly if you haven't
>> seen the remote control yet.  If you have more basic questions, we can try 
>> to help, but there is a lot we don't know about your
>> setup.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Steve Jacobson
>>
>> On Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:35:18 -0500, Gary Wood wrote:
>>
>>>Thank you.  Then it comes with its own remote.
>>>- Original Message - 
>>>From: "Mary Otten" 
>>>To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>>Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:37 AM
>>>Subject: Re: Apple TV
>>
>>
>>>> Gary, no you can't use the cable tv remote to interact with the apple
>>>> tv for things like selecting netflix movies or iTunes movies etc.
>>>>
>>>> Mary
>>>>
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Re: Apple TV

2013-07-31 Thread Steve Jacobson
Gary,

Yes, Apple TV comes with its own remote but it doesn't look like a normal 
remote.  It is very thin and fairly narrow and is made 
of metal.  When you open your Apple TV, you could easily miss it.  As I 
mentioned bfore, it has only a few buttons.  If you have 
not opened the box yet, you definitely should check out some of the resources 
and read about it to make sure you have everything 
you need.  For example, I don't think mine came with an HDMI cable, so if you 
got this as a result of an auction, you will need to 
see if you have an HDMI cable for it.  It sounds as though we may be giving you 
too much information too quickly if you haven't 
seen the remote control yet.  If you have more basic questions, we can try to 
help, but there is a lot we don't know about your 
setup.  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:35:18 -0500, Gary Wood wrote:

>Thank you.  Then it comes with its own remote.  
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Mary Otten" 
>To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:37 AM
>Subject: Re: Apple TV


>> Gary, no you can't use the cable tv remote to interact with the apple
>> tv for things like selecting netflix movies or iTunes movies etc. 
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
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Re: Apple TV

2013-07-31 Thread Steve Jacobson
Gary,

I'm guessing that the HDMI cable you have mentioned goes from your cable box to 
your TV.  You will need to connect the Apple TV 
somewhere else, either to an HDMI input on your cable box, if your cable box 
has an input, or do another HDMI input on your TV, if it has one.  
However, it sounds as though you have things in hand there, and checking the 
other resources makes sense.  I think you will want 
to get an Apple ID as well, though.

There are multiple ways to get an Apple ID.  If you think you may want to be 
streaming stuff from your computer to your system, you may want to install 
iTunes on your computer.  
There is an option within iTunes to create an Apple ID.  If you do this, you 
will want to understand some about iTunes as you will need to decide to what 
degree you want iTunes 
to manage media on your computer and whether you want iTunes to become your 
media player.  You can also just do a Google search for create apple id and 
find a link that way.  The 
link I found is

https://appleid.apple.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/MyAppleId.woa/wa/createAppleId

But there is a CAPTCHA on that page and I did not see an audio alternative that 
I found.  There is no CAPTCHA when creating the ID through iTunes.

There are not a lot of functions on the Apple TV, so as Mary said, it likely 
won't work with another remote unless that remote supports the Apple TV as 
another device.  That 
could happen at some point, and maybe a programmable remote could learn the 
Apple remote's codes, but I don't know if it is worth it.  The big thing that 
is useful is a keyboard 
to type in searches if you use your Apple TV to look for YouTube videos or 
movies.  You can do it using the Apple remote and the on-screen keyboard, but 
it is slower.  Using 
another TV remote won't help this process at all, even if you could program it. 
 The Apple remote is pretty much just four arrows, a select key, a play/pause, 
and a Menu button 
which is also a "Back" button.  I don't have the remote in my hand so I could 
be missing something, but it is pretty basic.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 03:37:59 -0500, Gary Wood wrote:

>I do have an HDMI cable that's connected to my cablebox.  I have everything 
>connnected to my surround sound.  surround
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Steve Jacobson" 
>To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 10:21 PM
>Subject: Re: Apple TV


>> Gary,
>>
>> You need to plug the Apple TV through an HDMI plug to an HD TV.  If your 
>> cable box has an HDMI input that can be routed to your TV, that might 
>> work, I don't know.  Cable boxes I have seen have HDMI
>> OUT to go to a TV, and that will not work.  You may need to get some help 
>> there from someone who knows what equipment you have.
>>
>> Once you get the Apple TV connected to a tv and to a sound source, 
>> probably your TV speakers, then you need to get voiceover turned on.  I 
>> believe that the first time you start the apple TV, it will speak a
>> prompt to turn on voiceOver using the little remote control.  If it has 
>> already been turned on, you may have missed the prompt, but I believe 
>> there is a shortcut to turning it on with the remote.  Once you have
>> voiceover going, you will need to explore the menus some.  You will next 
>> need to get it connected to your WI-FI network because everything you 
>> watch on it comes through the internet.  I believe that you will
>> next need to enter an Apple-ID and password into the unit.
>>
>> You might try doing some Google searches to see if anyone has instructions 
>> for blind persons.  The PDF user's guide is all right but some of the 
>> steps are shown in pictures.  It is hard to know how much more to
>> try to say without knowing your setup.  If you bought it at an Apple 
>> Store, they are pretty good to answer questions as well, although this can 
>> vary.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 21:07:52 -0500, Gary Wood wrote:
>>
>>>Can someone tell me how to install it?  I've never seen one of these 
>>>things
>>>before, but what I've seen, it's pretty small.  Someone told me that you
>>>plug it into HDMi of my cable box, and that's it's accessible using
>>>voiceover.  I'm sorry that this may be offtopic, but I just want something
>>>for starters.  I may get an IPhone in the near future.
>>>- Original Message - 
>>>From: "Mary Otten" 
>>>To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>>Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 8:52 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Apple TV
>>
>>
>>>> No, 

Re: Apple TV

2013-07-30 Thread Steve Jacobson
Mary,

Thank you, and that could be handy.  I might have to look into that.  To be 
clear, though, for Gary's purposes, this isn't a requirement to use the Apple 
TV.  

Best regards,

Steve

On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:41:14 -0700, Mary Otten wrote:

>Steve,
>Just fyi: if you have an iPhone, or an iPod for that matter, not sure
>about the iPad, there is a free remote app from Apple that will let you
>use the i-device as a remote to control the Apple tv, rather than using
>the remote that comes with the A-tv. 

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Re: Apple TV

2013-07-30 Thread Steve Jacobson
Gary,

As stated before, getting an Apple ID is a good idea and might be required, but 
you don't need an iPhone for that.  As a matter of fact, I don't know of any 
way the iPhone will help with Apple TV except that if 
you had music on your iPhone you could play it through your Apple TV.  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 03:32:58 -0500, Gary Wood wrote:

>Hi Steve.  I had some sighted help, and she told me that I maybe had to have 
>an IPhone, but I'M GLAd I don't.  I'll have to see what I can do.  I plan to 
>get an IPhone at some point, but I just thought I'd see what I could do 
>presently.  oD
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Steve Jacobson" 
>To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 10:12 PM
>Subject: Re: Apple TV


>> Gary,
>>
>> Have you gotten it connected with your WI FI network?  If so, what kind of 
>> problems are you running into?  It is good to get an Apple-ID, and I think 
>> some of its functionality depends on you having an Apple-
>> ID.  I do not know if that ID acts as a gateway into YouTube and 
>> Podcasting or not, but it might.  You do not need an iPhone to get an 
>> Apple ID, though.  If you use iTunes, you already have an Apple ID.
>> Since you can get an Apple ID with an iPhone, that might be what was being 
>> thought of, but as stated, you don't need an iPhone to get an Apple ID. 
>> It is very nice to have access to iTunes with the Apple TV,
>> so creating an iTunes account when you get an Apple ID is also a good 
>> idea.  There are a lot of inexpensive movies and TV shows to rent on 
>> iTunes, but there is also some free stuff.  Using the keyboard for
>> searching can be done with the little remote, but it is much easier with a 
>> BlueTooth keyboard.  This is something else to consider.  The Apple TV 
>> supports something called Air Play that lets other apple devices,
>> iPhones, iPods, etc., play music through the apple TV.  This is handy but 
>> certainly not a must to enjoy the Apple TV.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Steve Jacobson
>>
>> On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:59:35 -0500, Gary Wood wrote:
>>
>>>Can you give suggestions for a beginner on how to use it?
>>>- Original Message - 
>>>From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>>>To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>>Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 8:52 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Apple TV
>>
>>
>>>> Of course it isn't true, absolute twaddle, utter piffle, nothing but
>>>> flapdoodle .
>>>>
>>>> On 30/07/2013, at 11:49 AM, "Gary Wood"  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just bought an Apple TV almost two weeks ago.  Someone told me that 
>>>>> you
>>>>> have to buy an IPhone, in order to make it work.  Is that true?
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Re: Apple TV

2013-07-29 Thread Steve Jacobson
Gary,

You need to plug the Apple TV through an HDMI plug to an HD TV.  If your cable 
box has an HDMI input that can be routed to your TV, that might work, I don't 
know.  Cable boxes I have seen have HDMI 
OUT to go to a TV, and that will not work.  You may need to get some help there 
from someone who knows what equipment you have.  

Once you get the Apple TV connected to a tv and to a sound source, probably 
your TV speakers, then you need to get voiceover turned on.  I believe that the 
first time you start the apple TV, it will speak a 
prompt to turn on voiceOver using the little remote control.  If it has already 
been turned on, you may have missed the prompt, but I believe there is a 
shortcut to turning it on with the remote.  Once you have 
voiceover going, you will need to explore the menus some.  You will next need 
to get it connected to your WI-FI network because everything you watch on it 
comes through the internet.  I believe that you will 
next need to enter an Apple-ID and password into the unit.  

You might try doing some Google searches to see if anyone has instructions for 
blind persons.  The PDF user's guide is all right but some of the steps are 
shown in pictures.  It is hard to know how much more to 
try to say without knowing your setup.  If you bought it at an Apple Store, 
they are pretty good to answer questions as well, although this can vary.

Best regards,

Steve

On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 21:07:52 -0500, Gary Wood wrote:

>Can someone tell me how to install it?  I've never seen one of these things 
>before, but what I've seen, it's pretty small.  Someone told me that you 
>plug it into HDMi of my cable box, and that's it's accessible using 
>voiceover.  I'm sorry that this may be offtopic, but I just want something 
>for starters.  I may get an IPhone in the near future.
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Mary Otten" 
>To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 8:52 PM
>Subject: Re: Apple TV


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>>
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Re: Apple TV

2013-07-29 Thread Steve Jacobson
Gary,

Have you gotten it connected with your WI FI network?  If so, what kind of 
problems are you running into?  It is good to get an Apple-ID, and I think some 
of its functionality depends on you having an Apple-
ID.  I do not know if that ID acts as a gateway into YouTube and Podcasting or 
not, but it might.  You do not need an iPhone to get an Apple ID, though.  If 
you use iTunes, you already have an Apple ID.  
Since you can get an Apple ID with an iPhone, that might be what was being 
thought of, but as stated, you don't need an iPhone to get an Apple ID.  It is 
very nice to have access to iTunes with the Apple TV, 
so creating an iTunes account when you get an Apple ID is also a good idea.  
There are a lot of inexpensive movies and TV shows to rent on iTunes, but there 
is also some free stuff.  Using the keyboard for 
searching can be done with the little remote, but it is much easier with a 
BlueTooth keyboard.  This is something else to consider.  The Apple TV supports 
something called Air Play that lets other apple devices, 
iPhones, iPods, etc., play music through the apple TV.  This is handy but 
certainly not a must to enjoy the Apple TV.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:59:35 -0500, Gary Wood wrote:

>Can you give suggestions for a beginner on how to use it?
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 8:52 PM
>Subject: Re: Apple TV


>> Of course it isn't true, absolute twaddle, utter piffle, nothing but 
>> flapdoodle .
>>
>> On 30/07/2013, at 11:49 AM, "Gary Wood"  wrote:
>>
>>> I just bought an Apple TV almost two weeks ago.  Someone told me that you 
>>> have to buy an IPhone, in order to make it work.  Is that true?
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Re: C Crane pocket radio

2013-07-27 Thread Steve Jacobson
Dane,

I think the one I bought was a little Sony that was on sale, AM, FM, and 
Weather with no speaker.  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 03:08:22 +1000, Dane Trethowan wrote:

>Which one did you buy?


>On 28/07/2013, at 3:05 AM, "Steve Jacobson"  wrote:

>> What can you say about the radio's sensitivity and selectivity?  I bought 
>> another of their radios that was some cheaper and was a little disappointed 
>> in the performance given that it was advertised as being 
>> particularly sensitive at the time.  I was not so disappointed as to return 
>> it, though, as it sounds nice and is convenient.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Steve Jacobson
>> 
>> On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 08:43:55 -0700, Grant E. Metcalf wrote:
>> 
>>> I bought one of the C Crane pocket radios and am satisfied with its 
>>> performance. The price was $59 US plus shipping and California sales tax.
>>> It has lots of buttons which are easily identified. the top  button on the 
>>> right side of the radio selects AM, FM, and the weather band. The on/off 
>>> button, volume wheel and earphone jack are on the very top. On the face of 
>>> the radio you will find 2 vertical buttons which move up and down the dial. 
>>> There are 5 buttons you can use to pre-select your preferred frequencies. 
>>> Once you have located a station you hold down one of the 5 buttons for 2 
>>> seconds until you hear a beep and then repeat the process for the next 
>>> station you want. There are more buttons and functions which I still don't 
>>> understand and/or need at the moment. The sound is acceptable to my old 
>>> ears. There is a 60 day return policy if you decide you do not want this 
>>> radio.
>>> Hope this is helpful. -
>>> Grant
>>> Bartimaeus Alliance of the Blind, Inc.
>>> Website: http://bartimaeus.us/
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Re: C Crane pocket radio

2013-07-27 Thread Steve Jacobson
What can you say about the radio's sensitivity and selectivity?  I bought 
another of their radios that was some cheaper and was a little disappointed in 
the performance given that it was advertised as being 
particularly sensitive at the time.  I was not so disappointed as to return it, 
though, as it sounds nice and is convenient.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 08:43:55 -0700, Grant E. Metcalf wrote:

>I bought one of the C Crane pocket radios and am satisfied with its 
>performance. The price was $59 US plus shipping and California sales tax.
>It has lots of buttons which are easily identified. the top  button on the 
>right side of the radio selects AM, FM, and the weather band. The on/off 
>button, volume wheel and earphone jack are on the very top. On the face of 
>the radio you will find 2 vertical buttons which move up and down the dial. 
>There are 5 buttons you can use to pre-select your preferred frequencies. 
>Once you have located a station you hold down one of the 5 buttons for 2 
>seconds until you hear a beep and then repeat the process for the next 
>station you want. There are more buttons and functions which I still don't 
>understand and/or need at the moment. The sound is acceptable to my old 
>ears. There is a 60 day return policy if you decide you do not want this 
>radio.
>Hope this is helpful. -
>Grant
>Bartimaeus Alliance of the Blind, Inc.
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Re: A Favour

2013-07-27 Thread Steve Jacobson
Hank,

The Sony Tuner is no longer manufactured and hasn't been for a while.  
Therefore, you might have trouble finding it.  I'll dig out the model of the 
Coby, but as I recall, there were two of them, a tuner, and a 
portable of some kind.  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 21:19:35 -0700, hank smith, and seeing-eye dog iona wrote:

>all I am finding is a  tuner for cars are u sure the sony hd is the 
>correct model number?
>also what was the model of the coby one as well?
>Hank
>On 7/24/2013 9:10 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> Hmm, and I thought our DAB+ system was bad at times .
>>
>> I'm very sorry to hear that you seem to have a lack of choice when it comes 
>> to tuners etc.
>>
>> I'm outside the DAB+ receiving area of Melbourne in theory and I can still 
>> receive DAB+ on all my sets here though the Yamaha Tuner I wrote about last 
>> week handles DAB+ signals better than any other 
DAB+ capable device I have here and I have around a dozen of those.
>>
>> Someone told me that Sony made a very "Hot" HD tuner and perhaps this is the 
>> one you refer to in your message below?
>>
>> If they're still available then they're worth grabbing, not so much for the 
>> HD content but they're very good for DXing work.
>>
>>
>> On 25/07/2013, at 11:55 AM, Gary Schindler  wrote:
>>
>>> Steve, usually the CBS and Clear channel stations have good CD quality 
>>> audio on HD 1 and 2 here in Pittsburgh. On KDKA HD 3 you get the CBs Radio 
>>> Sports programming which doesn't sound any 
better than FM programming. I would guess that WCCO probably has the same setup.
>>>
>>> There is another local broadcast company called Steel City Media that 
>>> broadcast on all 4 hd channels in Stereo. all of them sound like hd quality 
>>> but the fourth channel is much weaker on both stations, so 
if we have windy days you have a lot of drop outs.
>>>
>>>
>>> I concur with you, A M HD isn't good at all. during the day KDKA A M was 
>>> decent, but at night, the signal wasn't strong enough to hold it locked in. 
>>> WTAE was weak enough that it is impossible to listen to 
it in the day time too.
>>>
>>> Since the a m uses the ajacent channels you can forget night time DX 
>>> listening.
>>>
>>> I think you have a Coby from what you are describing, and I was tempted to 
>>> buy one but never did. Try looking for a Sony HD-100 tuner. that should 
>>> have a 75 ohm F connector that you want. I guess you 
will have to find it on EBay.
>>>
>>> I have a couple of Radiosoppy tabletop hd radios that you take the whip 
>>> antenna off the back of the radio and there is the F connector for a 
>>> rooftop antenna. they don't make the sets any more, so EBay 
might be the place to find them too.
>>>
>>> any more you have to get hd tuners incorporated in to stereo receivers like 
>>> Pioneer, Demon or something like that.
>>> - Original Message - From: "Steve Jacobson" 
>>> 
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 12:00 PM
>>> Subject: Re: A Favour
>>>
>>>
>>>> Dane,
>>>>
>>>> I do have an inexpensive HD Tuner and a couple of HD radios and could 
>>>> provide an example.  However, I am not sure what such a
>>>> sample will tell you.  HD Radio in the United States is so variable in its 
>>>> quality.  For example, on FM, the HD programming can be
>>>> divided into multiple programs and the bandwidth that is allocated to each 
>>>> program can vary.  One of the Christian stations here
>>>> in Minneapolis-St. Paul, Minnesota, has four HD channels.  One of our 
>>>> public stations has three HD channels but one is the BBC and
>>>> they allocate very little bandwidth to it so it sounds a little like a 
>>>> lower bit-rate MP3.  Some radio stations seem pretty good
>>>> about not compressing the HD program while others seem to feed pretty much 
>>>> the same signal to the HD program as to the main analog
>>>> program so the difference is just less noise.  .  From what I have read, 
>>>> DAB is clearly a superior system, but it uses an
>>>> additional frequency band that broadcasters here did not want to risk.
>>>>
>>>> In my opinion, HD on AM radio here is not very good.  A good HD signal on 
>>>> AM sounds very nice, almost as good as an analog FM
>>>

Re: A Favour

2013-07-27 Thread Steve Jacobson
Gary,

You are correct, it is a Coby Tuner.  Besides the antenna connection, the unit 
received had a power supply that generated so much AM interference that it was 
difficult to get an HD signal.  I found another 
power supply to substitute and the problem was gone completely.  The tuner 
itself is pretty good, though, and I am very happy with the audio performance.  

I also have a Teac HD radio that does have a 75 ohm connector, and it has a 
line out jack as well.  I am thinking that it might be worth trying to pick 
another of those up and use it as a tuner.  I am certain that 
we are discussing the same Sony tuner.  I would be willing to pay something 
above list to get one, but not three times the list from a questionable seller. 
 I should look around more, though.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On 25/07/2013, at 11:55 AM, Gary Schindler  wrote:

>> Steve, usually the CBS and Clear channel stations have good CD quality audio 
>> on HD 1 and 2 here in Pittsburgh. On KDKA HD 3 you get the CBs Radio Sports 
>> programming which doesn't sound any better 
than FM programming. I would guess that WCCO probably has the same setup.
>> 
>> There is another local broadcast company called Steel City Media that 
>> broadcast on all 4 hd channels in Stereo. all of them sound like hd quality 
>> but the fourth channel is much weaker on both stations, so if 
we have windy days you have a lot of drop outs.
>> 
>> 
>> I concur with you, A M HD isn't good at all. during the day KDKA A M was 
>> decent, but at night, the signal wasn't strong enough to hold it locked in. 
>> WTAE was weak enough that it is impossible to listen to it 
in the day time too.
>> 
>> Since the a m uses the ajacent channels you can forget night time DX 
>> listening.
>> 
>> I think you have a Coby from what you are describing, and I was tempted to 
>> buy one but never did. Try looking for a Sony HD-100 tuner. that should have 
>> a 75 ohm F connector that you want. I guess you 
will have to find it on EBay.
>> 
>> I have a couple of Radiosoppy tabletop hd radios that you take the whip 
>> antenna off the back of the radio and there is the F connector for a rooftop 
>> antenna. they don't make the sets any more, so EBay 
might be the place to find them too.
>> 
>> any more you have to get hd tuners incorporated in to stereo receivers like 
>> Pioneer, Demon or something like that.
>> - Original Message - From: "Steve Jacobson" 
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 12:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: A Favour
>> 
>> 
>>> Dane,
>>> 
>>> I do have an inexpensive HD Tuner and a couple of HD radios and could 
>>> provide an example.  However, I am not sure what such a
>>> sample will tell you.  HD Radio in the United States is so variable in its 
>>> quality.  For example, on FM, the HD programming can be
>>> divided into multiple programs and the bandwidth that is allocated to each 
>>> program can vary.  One of the Christian stations here
>>> in Minneapolis-St. Paul, Minnesota, has four HD channels.  One of our 
>>> public stations has three HD channels but one is the BBC and
>>> they allocate very little bandwidth to it so it sounds a little like a 
>>> lower bit-rate MP3.  Some radio stations seem pretty good
>>> about not compressing the HD program while others seem to feed pretty much 
>>> the same signal to the HD program as to the main analog
>>> program so the difference is just less noise.  .  From what I have read, 
>>> DAB is clearly a superior system, but it uses an
>>> additional frequency band that broadcasters here did not want to risk.
>>> 
>>> In my opinion, HD on AM radio here is not very good.  A good HD signal on 
>>> AM sounds very nice, almost as good as an analog FM
>>> signal, but the AM signal has to be so good that the analog signal would 
>>> sound pretty good if it was not restricted in bandwidth
>>> because of the HD signal.  I bought a Carver tuner that was capable of 
>>> receiving AM Stereo back in the 1980's here, and the sound
>>> quality was pretty good.  HD AM radio sounds better, but it takes so little 
>>> to disrupt it that it doesn't seem all that practicle.
>>> 
>>> Another frustration of mine is that I can't find a good HD Tuner any more. 
>>> I bought one from Amazon that listed for $99 but is
>>> now sold for $35 and it isn't bad, but it has a permanently connected wire 
>>> antenna for FM with no obvious place to connect a
>>> g

Re: A Favour

2013-07-25 Thread Steve Jacobson
Dane,

The HD range on FM signals here isn't too bad.  In general, where I have been 
frustrated with the sound, it has not been the fault of HD, but how it was 
implemented at the particular station.  If you are still 
interested in samples, let me know and I can try to come up with something.

Bestregards,

Steve Jacobson
On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 14:10:40 +1000, Dane Trethowan wrote:

>Hmm, and I thought our DAB+ system was bad at times .

>I'm very sorry to hear that you seem to have a lack of choice when it comes to 
>tuners etc.

>I'm outside the DAB+ receiving area of Melbourne in theory and I can still 
>receive DAB+ on all my sets here though the Yamaha Tuner I wrote about last 
>week handles DAB+ signals better than any other 
DAB+ capable device I have here and I have around a dozen of those.

>Someone told me that Sony made a very "Hot" HD tuner and perhaps this is the 
>one you refer to in your message below?

>If they're still available then they're worth grabbing, not so much for the HD 
>content but they're very good for DXing work.


>On 25/07/2013, at 11:55 AM, Gary Schindler  wrote:

>> Steve, usually the CBS and Clear channel stations have good CD quality audio 
>> on HD 1 and 2 here in Pittsburgh. On KDKA HD 3 you get the CBs Radio Sports 
>> programming which doesn't sound any better 
than FM programming. I would guess that WCCO probably has the same setup.
>> 
>> There is another local broadcast company called Steel City Media that 
>> broadcast on all 4 hd channels in Stereo. all of them sound like hd quality 
>> but the fourth channel is much weaker on both stations, so if 
we have windy days you have a lot of drop outs.
>> 
>> 
>> I concur with you, A M HD isn't good at all. during the day KDKA A M was 
>> decent, but at night, the signal wasn't strong enough to hold it locked in. 
>> WTAE was weak enough that it is impossible to listen to it 
in the day time too.
>> 
>> Since the a m uses the ajacent channels you can forget night time DX 
>> listening.
>> 
>> I think you have a Coby from what you are describing, and I was tempted to 
>> buy one but never did. Try looking for a Sony HD-100 tuner. that should have 
>> a 75 ohm F connector that you want. I guess you 
will have to find it on EBay.
>> 
>> I have a couple of Radiosoppy tabletop hd radios that you take the whip 
>> antenna off the back of the radio and there is the F connector for a rooftop 
>> antenna. they don't make the sets any more, so EBay 
might be the place to find them too.
>> 
>> any more you have to get hd tuners incorporated in to stereo receivers like 
>> Pioneer, Demon or something like that.
>> - Original Message - From: "Steve Jacobson" 
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 12:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: A Favour
>> 
>> 
>>> Dane,
>>> 
>>> I do have an inexpensive HD Tuner and a couple of HD radios and could 
>>> provide an example.  However, I am not sure what such a
>>> sample will tell you.  HD Radio in the United States is so variable in its 
>>> quality.  For example, on FM, the HD programming can be
>>> divided into multiple programs and the bandwidth that is allocated to each 
>>> program can vary.  One of the Christian stations here
>>> in Minneapolis-St. Paul, Minnesota, has four HD channels.  One of our 
>>> public stations has three HD channels but one is the BBC and
>>> they allocate very little bandwidth to it so it sounds a little like a 
>>> lower bit-rate MP3.  Some radio stations seem pretty good
>>> about not compressing the HD program while others seem to feed pretty much 
>>> the same signal to the HD program as to the main analog
>>> program so the difference is just less noise.  .  From what I have read, 
>>> DAB is clearly a superior system, but it uses an
>>> additional frequency band that broadcasters here did not want to risk.
>>> 
>>> In my opinion, HD on AM radio here is not very good.  A good HD signal on 
>>> AM sounds very nice, almost as good as an analog FM
>>> signal, but the AM signal has to be so good that the analog signal would 
>>> sound pretty good if it was not restricted in bandwidth
>>> because of the HD signal.  I bought a Carver tuner that was capable of 
>>> receiving AM Stereo back in the 1980's here, and the sound
>>> quality was pretty good.  HD AM radio sounds better, but it takes so little 
>>> to disrupt it that it doesn't seem all that practicle.
>>> 
>>

Re: A Favour

2013-07-24 Thread Steve Jacobson
Dane,

I do have an inexpensive HD Tuner and a couple of HD radios and could provide 
an example.  However, I am not sure what such a 
sample will tell you.  HD Radio in the United States is so variable in its 
quality.  For example, on FM, the HD programming can be 
divided into multiple programs and the bandwidth that is allocated to each 
program can vary.  One of the Christian stations here 
in Minneapolis-St. Paul, Minnesota, has four HD channels.  One of our public 
stations has three HD channels but one is the BBC and 
they allocate very little bandwidth to it so it sounds a little like a lower 
bit-rate MP3.  Some radio stations seem pretty good 
about not compressing the HD program while others seem to feed pretty much the 
same signal to the HD program as to the main analog 
program so the difference is just less noise.  .  From what I have read, DAB is 
clearly a superior system, but it uses an 
additional frequency band that broadcasters here did not want to risk.  

In my opinion, HD on AM radio here is not very good.  A good HD signal on AM 
sounds very nice, almost as good as an analog FM 
signal, but the AM signal has to be so good that the analog signal would sound 
pretty good if it was not restricted in bandwidth 
because of the HD signal.  I bought a Carver tuner that was capable of 
receiving AM Stereo back in the 1980's here, and the sound 
quality was pretty good.  HD AM radio sounds better, but it takes so little to 
disrupt it that it doesn't seem all that practicle.  

Another frustration of mine is that I can't find a good HD Tuner any more.  I 
bought one from Amazon that listed for $99 but is 
now sold for $35 and it isn't bad, but it has a permanently connected wire 
antenna for FM with no obvious place to connect a 
ground.  My system is in a basement and I have an outdoor FM antenna, but there 
is no simple way to connect a 75-ohm coxial cable 
to it.  The HD table radios I have all have coxial cable connections so I never 
thought to check if the tuner had a 75-ohm 
connection.  The wire antenna would be adequate above ground level.  I have 
some electronic knowledge so I've experimented with 
making a connection to the 75-ohm cable available in the basement, but the 
connection is not very efficient.  I saw a Sony tuner 
available used but it was at three or four times the original price, and there 
were some bad reviews associated with the seller.


Finally, here in the Twin Cities in Minnesota, apparently HD is not a part of 
many of our stations' backup transmitters.  A number 
of our bigger stations are on a couple of tall transmission towers, and when 
they do maintenance on the towers, the analog signal 
is transmitted from a backup site but no HD.  This has been a somewhat common 
occurrence this summer for some reason.

Even with all this, I like HD because the sound can be good, and it opens up 
the potential for additional programming on our FM 
bands.  

After reading all of this, let me know what sort of samples you might like or 
if you would simply like a good and a poor example.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson


On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 11:48:52 +1000, Dane Trethowan wrote:

>Hi!

>Does anyone out there have a HD Tuner? I'm looking for some samples of HD 
>radio so if someone could provide then I'd be most 
appreciative.

>I can return the favour perhaps by providing some samples of DAB+.


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2013-05-27 Thread Steve Jacobson
I am looking for a way to expand some audio files that have been compressed.  I 
realize that to do a good job I need to get the time constants to be close to 
the inverse of what is used when the files are compressed, but I am having some 
trouble finding something that will expand.  I have Sound Forge 10, and it is 
capable of expanding, but the values I can control seem to only compress unless 
I am missing something.  It appears that I need to manipulate a graph to get 
it to expand and have had no success in doing that although I am able to use 
Window-Eyes to know where I am on the graph.  Does anyone have any 
ideas?

Best regards,

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Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

2013-02-09 Thread Steve Jacobson
Don,

There are at least two things that can happen with noise reduction.  First, 
some noise reduction algorithms do cause a loss of high frequencies.  The noise 
reduction in Sound Forge actually has an option to 
add highs back, but one could do the same with an equalizer.  However, hiss, 
itself, can make a recording sound brighter.  I have heard examples where the 
sound spectrum with and without hiss was made 
the same, and the one with hiss sounded brighter.  As you say, sound is very 
subjective in some ways, but the ear can be fooled as well.  More than once I 
have thought I had found a tremendous set of 
parameters to get rid of noise on a recording, only to find there were 
artifacts of noise reduction that were very apparent to me when I listened the 
next day.  It is a challenge.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson
to  
On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 16:43:25 -0800, Donald L. Roberts wrote:

>I do not claim to be knowledgeable regarding noise reduction.  However, 
>most of the time I have dealt with old recordings which have been 
>subjected to noise reduction software, there are almost no highs 
>whatsoever.  I am thinking of a lot of big band and vocal recordings 
>made on 78s during the 30s and 40s, and yes I know that the modulating 
>frequencies were seldom more than 5000 cycles.  But I have heard a 
>number of those recordings on the original vinyl and later heard those 
>same recordings after going through noise reduction procedures, and the 
>resulting sound is so bland that I would much prefer the originals, 
>complete with hiss and a few pops.

>As stated earlier, I haven't played with this stuff much, so I am not 
>bashing.  I am just suggesting that good sound is an extremely 
>subjective thing.

>Don Roberts


>On 2/9/2013 12:25 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:
>> Hi,
>> the noise remover in Audacity is far better.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Curtis Delzer
>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 5:15 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition
>>
>>
>> "auto noise capture" in sound forge is great, and
>> then the trick is to get it to lower the defaults
>> to more than one of the saved configurations to more than 12.5 DB.
>> You can totally get rid of "cassette" noise, for
>> example, at about -40 DB or so, any more than
>> that and it starts to make the typical NR swishy
>> sounds which are not desirable.
>>
>>
>>
>> At 08:19 AM 12/04/12, you wrote:
>>> In case this matters, I also really liked Audition's Noise Reduction.
>>> However, I feel as though the Sound Forge Noise reduction
>>> is just as good but one needs to play with it some.  For example, the
>>> Sound Forge noise reduction plug-in as four different modes,
>>> and certain modes work better with certain kinds of content.  I didn't
>>> feel I had to work as hard at Audition's noise reduction to
>>> get good results, but if you are forced away from Audition, I think
>>> you can do all right with the Sound Forge noise reduction
>>> plug-in if you experiment with settings..
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Steve Jacobson
>>>
>>> On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 08:27:01 -0500, Merv Keck wrote:
>>>
>>> >Adobe Audition still has the best noise reduction I have ever seen on
>>> the
>>> >PC. Before losing most of my vision I never used anything else but Adobe
>>> >Audition 3 for multitrack editing. However,
>>> since March of 22011 it has been
>>> >too difficult for nme to use it since it is
>>> not very speech friendly. I kept
>>> >waiting for a new version to come out but it never did. I'm going to
>>> >download Reaper today and give it a try.
>>>
>>> >-Original Message-
>>> >From: Hamit Campos
>>> >Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:21 PM
>>> >To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>>> >Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition
>>> >I used Audition professionally for a long time and still miss it very
>>> >much.
>>> >Actually I should care because I believe this does surround sound too
>>> no?
>>>
>>> >-Original Message-
>>> >From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Samuel
>>> >Wilkins
>>> >Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 12:44 PM
>>> >To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>>> >Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition
>>>
>>> >The reason I am interested in using A

Re: GoldWave stereo

2012-12-08 Thread Steve Jacobson
To add more to this good suggestion, make sure that the plugs are completely 
inserted.  Some of the symptoms you describe can occur if a 1/8-inch plug is 
not quite completely inserted.  Sometimes the plugs 
on cables fit tighter than those on headphones, for example.  Also make sure 
the cable is working correctly.  Make sure you didn't get a cable that converts 
stereo to mono, for example.  I bought on by 
accident once.  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 03:11:49 -0700, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

>One important thing you haven't mentioned, is your cable from your cassette 
>deck a stereo cable?
>***
>character is found in how you treat people who can't do anything for you.

>web page
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>- Original Message - 
>From: "Adrian Spratt" 
>To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 3:12 PM
>Subject: GoldWave stereo


>Hi. I am unable to transfer a stereo recording in stereo to my computer with
>GoldWave. Here's what I've achieved so far and where I'm stuck.

>1. I determined that the microphone jack on my Dell Dimension 4700 is mono
>and that in order to record in stereo, I need to use the line-in jack.

>2. Activating the line-in jack on my XP was an adventure, but between sounds
>and Audio in the control panel and Entertainment in Accessories, I got it
>unmuted and the volume raised.

>3. Now I can transfer a recording from my cassette player, but it is still
>in mono, with a bias toward the left speaker. I've confirmed with headphones
>that the cassette was recorded is in good, balanced stereo.

>4. I thought I might have found the solution in GoldWave at something called
>"Stereo Mixer" in, I believe, configuration. this item is set at 60,
>whatever that means, and it was unchecked. However, I checked it. The next
>recording stayed mono.

>5. I went to the GoldWave manual to read about "stereo mix" and found only
>one short paragraph, which reads as follows:

>Some devices, such as "Stereo Mix" or "What You Hear" are disabled in
>Windows by default and have to be enabled manually. Choose the Configure
>button, select the Recording tab, right-click anywhere in the list and
>select Show Disabled Devices, then right-click on the device in the list and
>choose Enable.

>This sounds simple enough, but I'm unable to get to this area or, if I've
>succeeded, right-clicking does nothing.

>Can anyone pull me out of this purgatory?

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Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

2012-12-04 Thread Steve Jacobson
In case this matters, I also really liked Audition's Noise Reduction.  However, 
I feel as though the Sound Forge Noise reduction 
is just as good but one needs to play with it some.  For example, the Sound 
Forge noise reduction plug-in as four different modes, 
and certain modes work better with certain kinds of content.  I didn't feel I 
had to work as hard at Audition's noise reduction to 
get good results, but if you are forced away from Audition, I think you can do 
all right with the Sound Forge noise reduction 
plug-in if you experiment with settings..

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 08:27:01 -0500, Merv Keck wrote:

>Adobe Audition still has the best noise reduction I have ever seen on the 
>PC. Before losing most of my vision I never used anything else but Adobe 
>Audition 3 for multitrack editing. However, since March of 22011 it has been 
>too difficult for nme to use it since it is not very speech friendly. I kept 
>waiting for a new version to come out but it never did. I'm going to 
>download Reaper today and give it a try.

>-Original Message- 
>From: Hamit Campos
>Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:21 PM
>To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition
>I used Audition professionally for a long time and still miss it very much.
>Actually I should care because I believe this does surround sound too no?

>-Original Message-
>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Samuel
>Wilkins
>Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 12:44 PM
>To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

>The reason I am interested in using Adobe Audition is because of its
>multitrack editing capabilities, as I have some tracks I would like to edit,
>and I would like to be able to do this at home with Window-Eyes.

>-Original Message-
>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Vítek
>Sent: 02 December 2012 18:32
>To: PC Audio Discussion List
>Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

>Hi Sam,

>My view might be a little subjective but from what I've tried out in the
>past when I got myself Adobe Audition just to take a look at it got totally
>worse than e.g. 2.1 version of Adobe Audition when you know they changed
>their label from Cool Edit which was the predecessor of that one. I wasn't
>confortable with that as many objects were placed without any shortcut keys
>on the screen beyond the menu so OK it was possible to grab them using the
>virtual mouse and crowling around but it was a real pain. It has the
>standard menu from what I remember and maybe they improved some particular
>things of that I can't tell but generally the older version were incredible
>having most of things in menu reachable via the keyboard unlike the latest
>versions. But maybe somebody knowing more of that will chime in. I say the
>most blind-friendly one is Sound Forge:).

>For the record I don't think it'll be better with Window Eyes as the
>universal way of the layout and localizing the object is identical to all
>screen readers regardless of whether it's NVDA Jaws or Window Eyes etc.



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Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

2012-12-02 Thread Steve Jacobson
Your cautions are legitimate, but there were some changes that were intended to 
help screen readers between Adobe audition 2 and 3.  I have not experimented 
enough to know where things are now, but if 
someone has a reason to want to use Audition, I really think it is worth trying 
the demo to see where things are now.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 19:32:23 +0100, Vítek  wrote:

>Hi Sam,

>My view might be a little subjective but from what I've tried out in the past 
>when I got myself Adobe Audition just to take a look at it got totally worse 
>than e.g. 2.1 version of Adobe Audition when you know 
they changed their label from Cool Edit which was the predecessor of that one. 
I wasn't confortable with that as many objects were placed without any shortcut 
keys on the screen beyond the menu so OK it 
was possible to grab them using the virtual mouse and crowling around but it 
was a real pain. It has the standard menu from what I remember and maybe they 
improved some particular things of that I can't tell 
but generally the older version were incredible having most of things in menu 
reachable via the keyboard unlike the latest versions. But maybe somebody 
knowing more of that will chime in. I say the most blind-
friendly one is Sound Forge:).

>For the record I don't think it'll be better with Window Eyes as the universal 
>way of the layout and localizing the object is identical to all screen readers 
>regardless of whether it's NVDA Jaws or Window Eyes 
etc.



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Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

2012-12-02 Thread Steve Jacobson
Samyuel,

I am a Window-Eyes user and I used Adobe Audition in its early days and 
CoolEdit before then which Adobe purchased.  The current version of Audition 
conveys information to screen readers using other 
methods that are not evident from the screen.  Mostly, I think MSAA is used, 
although there could be some UI Automation.  What this means is that if you 
just try to explore the screens with the mouse pointer, 
you are going to notice that some things that others see on the screen are just 
not there.  GW Micro does have an Audition app that gets a lot of the 
information you need.  When I tried that some time ago, it 
worked pretty well, but there were some gaps when dealing with certain 
plug-ins.  I had switched to Sound Forge before these capabilities became 
available, though, so I didn't buy a full Audition version, and I 
have not tried it for a while.

I would suggest that you ask on the GW-Info list, though, and I would also see 
if you can get a demo version and plan on really working the heck out of it for 
thirty days or so.  I don't know if you can download 
a demo version or not.

If you do try this, I for one would be very, very interested to hear what you 
find out.  Also, if there are specific problems, Aaron Smith of GW Micro might 
be willing to see if something can be done with the app.  
While I am not unhappy with Sound Forge, I would consider moving back to 
Audition if it works reasonably.

Good luck.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 15:21:31 -, Samuel Wilkins wrote:

>Hello everyone, I am considering migrating to Adobe Audition.  However, I
>was wondering how accessible the latest version is with a screen reader.  I
>am using Window-Eyes as my reader.  Thank you.  


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RE: Accessible Impulse Response Converter

2012-11-22 Thread Steve Jacobson
Samuel,

I have seen some messages about this program on GW-Info.  I think people were 
using it with Window-Eyes, but that there was some sort of problem but don't 
remember what it was or how serious it was.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 17:34:32 -, Samuel Wilkins wrote:

>Hello Rob, thank you for your response.  How accessible is Reeper with
>Window-Eyes?  

>-Original Message-
>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Rob Tabor
>Sent: 22 November 2012 14:20
>To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>Subject: RE: Accessible Impulse Response Converter

>Hello Samuel and list.

>In partial answer to your question there is a sound editor called Reaper
>which has several free VST (virtual instruments and effects) plugins
>available for download, convolution reverb being one of them. I will
>forewarn you, however, that Reaper is very sophisticated with a boatload of
>features and audio effects and has a rather steep learning curve. If you
>want to produce convolution reverb without using an audio editing package, I
>have no other solutions to suggest at this time. I wish you the best with
>your project.
>Best regards,
>Rob Tabor KS/USA

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>Wilkins
>Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 7:09 AM
>To: PC Audio Discussion List
>Subject: Accessible Impulse Response Converter

>Hello everyone, I was wondering if anyone knows of an accessible programme
>that can convert wave files into impulse response files to use with sound
>files.  I am studying impulse response files for making convolution reverb
>in university, and I am interested in making my own.  Thank you.  


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RE: some questions about sound forge

2012-10-09 Thread Steve Jacobson
Yes, you can select with "Mark in" and "Mark out" keys, the letters i and o on 
the keyboard.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 17:33:33 -0400, HHamit Campos wrote:

>The latest is 10. I'm not too sure of the build. Um, Audio Studio is what
>the cut down virsion is called, and I'm not sure about the selection thing.

>-Original Message-
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>cumings
>Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 4:28 PM
>To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
>Subject: some questions about sound forge

>1. What is the latest version of sound forge, and does it run with either
>window-eyes, jaws, or both? 
>Are there scripts for both screen-readers? 
>2. Is there still a low-cost stripped-down version of sound forge? 
>3. Is there a way in sound forge to set a start and finish marker at the
>beginning and end of the selection you want to delete? 
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Re: RocketFish Sound Card 5.1 Recording

2012-10-06 Thread Steve Jacobson
It is also possible that the mic jack also functions as the Line-in jack.  This 
has probably already been checked, but one needs to check that line-in is 
checked and not muted in volume control as well.  Some sound cards have a check 
box to increase mic gain, unchecking this or checking any 
"attenuation" check box could make the Mic jack work adequately instead of 
using Line-In.  If using the microphone input, one needs to be careful not tu 
reduce the volume too much or one will pick up residual noise of the cassette 
player that is there when the gain is all the way down.  There needs to be 
enough audio to cover that up as it can be pretty noticeable on some machines.

Best regards,

Seve Jacobson

On Sat, 6 Oct 2012 15:56:36 -0400, Dave Trevino wrote:

>If you want to connect a cassette player to your computer, and your only 
>success is through your microphone jac,, you might try dropping your mike 
>gain to zero and gradually increasing it.  If it distorts, back off the 
>gain.  Playing the cassette at low gain, or using an attenuated patch cord 
>could also figure into the remedy.  There will be a lot of trial and error, 
>but you won't mess up anything, and you can always reset your microphone 
>level if you want to do some talking.

>Staying a laugh ahead of life,

>Dave Trevino
>- Original Message - 
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>To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 12:18 PM
>Subject: Re: RocketFish Sound Card 5.1 Recording


>>I am a blind person, but can give you the following information. My wife, 
>>sighted, checked the sound card and there are 4 different icons on the 
>>jacks..1 pink which is the microphone, and 3 orange ones, the one closest 
>>to the michrophone is the one I have the speakers pluged into. In the 
>>properties of the recording devices there are 3 microphones listed and 2 
>>line-ins listed. I have the microphone listed for the Rocketfish  is set as 
>>default. As I said , I can record from the microphone.
>> Was wondering if the Microphone jack and the line-in jack are the same. 
>> Think it could be, if I changed the default to the Rocketfish default, 
>> what might happen if I tried that??   Can I blow the thing up??..lol
>> Thanks,
>> Morey
>>
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