Re: Ripping With WMP

2015-06-09 Thread Gary Petraccaro
Thanks.  Found everything you said.  Just couldn't find the rip controls at 
first.


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Gary,

There are two approaches to ripping CD's in Windows Media Player of which 
I am aware.  In another note, you were
referred to the Ripping tab of the options dialog.  On that tap, you can 
check a box that will rip CD's
automatically when you insert one.  It will check first to be sure it was 
not already ripped.  You can also specify
what type of files will be created on that tab.  This works good if you 
are ripping a bunch of them at once.


If you don't want to rip automatically, make sure the associated checkbox 
is not cheched.  When you insert a CD, you
should be focused on the Now Playing tab of Windows Media Player.  If 
you are not on that tab, pressing CONTROL-3
should bring you there.  Once the CD is playing, you should find a Rip 
CD button by tabbing around that dialog.


Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 23:35:31 -0400, Gary Petraccaro wrote:

Running Win7 64-bit and can't find how to rip to mp3 using WMP.  Would 
appreciate either simple instructions or

being pointed to a tutorial.

Thanks.











Re: Ripping With WMP

2015-06-08 Thread Steve Jacobson
Gary,

There are two approaches to ripping CD's in Windows Media Player of which I am 
aware.  In another note, you were 
referred to the Ripping tab of the options dialog.  On that tap, you can 
check a box that will rip CD's 
automatically when you insert one.  It will check first to be sure it was not 
already ripped.  You can also specify 
what type of files will be created on that tab.  This works good if you are 
ripping a bunch of them at once.

If you don't want to rip automatically, make sure the associated checkbox is 
not cheched.  When you insert a CD, you 
should be focused on the Now Playing tab of Windows Media Player.  If you are 
not on that tab, pressing CONTROL-3 
should bring you there.  Once the CD is playing, you should find a Rip CD 
button by tabbing around that dialog.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 23:35:31 -0400, Gary Petraccaro wrote:

Running Win7 64-bit and can't find how to rip to mp3 using WMP.  Would 
appreciate either simple instructions or 
being pointed to a tutorial.
Thanks.







RE: Ripping With WMP

2015-06-07 Thread Adrian Spratt
This suggestion was posted by Kevin Hourigan on a JAWS list. I can't vouch for 
them because I haven't tried them.

1. Open WMP, and it says Turn repeat on button .
2. Press Alt O, arrow down to options, and press enter.
3. Press control tab to rip CD page.
4. Tab around to what you want.

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Petraccaro
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 11:36 PM
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Subject: Ripping With WMP

Running Win7 64-bit and can't find how to rip to mp3 using WMP.  Would 
appreciate either simple instructions or being pointed to a tutorial.
Thanks.



Ripping With WMP

2015-06-07 Thread Gary Petraccaro
Running Win7 64-bit and can't find how to rip to mp3 using WMP.  Would 
appreciate either simple instructions or being pointed to a tutorial.
Thanks.


RE: alternative to WMP 12 to play streaming .asx files

2012-10-09 Thread André van Deventer
You can even try foobar 2000 at

www.foobar2000.org
I think the link is.

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Try MaPlEr.


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Prateek
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 4:58 PM
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Subject: alternative to WMP 12 to play streaming .asx files

Hello

windows7 64bit user.
WMP12 that comes preloaded on my win7 PC is just not working right to stream
audio content over the internet.  this is a known Win7/ WMP12 issue and diff
options to resolve this have failed for me. so my Q is not how to fix WMP12.
Are there any screen reader usable audio players other than Windows Media
Player that will play .asx files?

thanks
Prateek 

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Re: alternative to WMP 12 to play streaming .asx files

2012-10-09 Thread Chris

Yes try Winamp at
www.ninite.com/winamp



Christopher Hallsworth

On 08/10/2012 21:58, Dujari, Prateek wrote:

Hello

windows7 64bit user.
WMP12 that comes preloaded on my win7 PC is just not working right to stream 
audio content over the internet.  this is a known Win7/ WMP12 issue and diff 
options to resolve this have failed for me. so my Q is not how to fix WMP12.
Are there any screen reader usable audio players other than Windows Media 
Player that will play .asx files?

thanks
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alternative to WMP 12 to play streaming .asx files

2012-10-08 Thread Dujari, Prateek
Hello

windows7 64bit user.
WMP12 that comes preloaded on my win7 PC is just not working right to stream 
audio content over the internet.  this is a known Win7/ WMP12 issue and diff 
options to resolve this have failed for me. so my Q is not how to fix WMP12.
Are there any screen reader usable audio players other than Windows Media 
Player that will play .asx files?

thanks
Prateek 

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Re: alternative to WMP 12 to play streaming .asx files

2012-10-08 Thread Jaan Ali

try vlc media player or vinam

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Subject: alternative to WMP 12 to play streaming .asx files

Hello

windows7 64bit user.
WMP12 that comes preloaded on my win7 PC is just not working right to stream 
audio content over the internet.  this is a known Win7/ WMP12 issue and diff 
options to resolve this have failed for me. so my Q is not how to fix WMP12.
Are there any screen reader usable audio players other than Windows Media 
Player that will play .asx files?


thanks
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Re: alternative to WMP 12 to play streaming .asx files

2012-10-08 Thread dennis

will winamp not work for you?
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try vlc media player or vinam

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From: Dujari, Prateek

Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 1:58 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: alternative to WMP 12 to play streaming .asx files

Hello

windows7 64bit user.
WMP12 that comes preloaded on my win7 PC is just not working right to 
stream audio content over the internet.  this is a known Win7/ WMP12 issue 
and diff options to resolve this have failed for me. so my Q is not how to 
fix WMP12.
Are there any screen reader usable audio players other than Windows Media 
Player that will play .asx files?


thanks
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RE: alternative to WMP 12 to play streaming .asx files

2012-10-08 Thread Humberto Rodriguez
Try MaPlEr.


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Prateek
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 4:58 PM
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Subject: alternative to WMP 12 to play streaming .asx files

Hello

windows7 64bit user.
WMP12 that comes preloaded on my win7 PC is just not working right to stream
audio content over the internet.  this is a known Win7/ WMP12 issue and diff
options to resolve this have failed for me. so my Q is not how to fix WMP12.
Are there any screen reader usable audio players other than Windows Media
Player that will play .asx files?

thanks
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Pl provide a URL to get Vinam. (RE: alternative to WMP 12 to play streaming .asx files)

2012-10-08 Thread Dujari, Prateek
I can't find anything clear regarding a Vinam media player upon searching on 
the web. Would you pl share a URL with me where I can find more info on this 
media/audio player?


Prateek
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try vlc media player or vinam

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Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 1:58 AM
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Subject: alternative to WMP 12 to play streaming .asx files

Hello

windows7 64bit user.
WMP12 that comes preloaded on my win7 PC is just not working right to stream 
audio content over the internet.  this is a known Win7/ WMP12 issue and diff 
options to resolve this have failed for me. so my Q is not how to fix WMP12.
Are there any screen reader usable audio players other than Windows Media 
Player that will play .asx files?

thanks
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RE: alternative to WMP 12 to play streaming .asx files

2012-10-08 Thread Dujari, Prateek
I have it and it doesnt play .asx.


Prateek

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Subject: RE: alternative to WMP 12 to play streaming .asx files

Try MaPlEr.


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Prateek
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Subject: alternative to WMP 12 to play streaming .asx files

Hello

windows7 64bit user.
WMP12 that comes preloaded on my win7 PC is just not working right to stream
audio content over the internet.  this is a known Win7/ WMP12 issue and diff
options to resolve this have failed for me. so my Q is not how to fix WMP12.
Are there any screen reader usable audio players other than Windows Media
Player that will play .asx files?

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RE: alternative to WMP 12 to play streaming .asx files

2012-10-08 Thread Humberto Rodriguez
Sorry about that, I went to check and it plays .m3u and .pls but no .asx.
How about Tapin Radio?  Is that the only stream offered?  
Humberto


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I have it and it doesnt play .asx.


Prateek

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Subject: RE: alternative to WMP 12 to play streaming .asx files

Try MaPlEr.


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Prateek
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 4:58 PM
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Subject: alternative to WMP 12 to play streaming .asx files

Hello

windows7 64bit user.
WMP12 that comes preloaded on my win7 PC is just not working right to stream
audio content over the internet.  this is a known Win7/ WMP12 issue and diff
options to resolve this have failed for me. so my Q is not how to fix WMP12.
Are there any screen reader usable audio players other than Windows Media
Player that will play .asx files?

thanks
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Re: alternative to WMP 12 to play streaming .asx files

2012-10-08 Thread Holger Fiallo

what about winamp?

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From: Humberto Rodriguez

Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 6:13 PM
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Subject: RE: alternative to WMP 12 to play streaming .asx files

Sorry about that, I went to check and it plays .m3u and .pls but no .asx.
How about Tapin Radio?  Is that the only stream offered?
Humberto


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Prateek
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Subject: RE: alternative to WMP 12 to play streaming .asx files

I have it and it doesnt play .asx.


Prateek

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Rodriguez
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 2:24 PM
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Subject: RE: alternative to WMP 12 to play streaming .asx files

Try MaPlEr.


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Prateek
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 4:58 PM
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Subject: alternative to WMP 12 to play streaming .asx files

Hello

windows7 64bit user.
WMP12 that comes preloaded on my win7 PC is just not working right to stream
audio content over the internet.  this is a known Win7/ WMP12 issue and diff
options to resolve this have failed for me. so my Q is not how to fix WMP12.
Are there any screen reader usable audio players other than Windows Media
Player that will play .asx files?

thanks
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Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-16 Thread Robert Logue
There is an option to rearange ripped tracks in folders using settings from 
the ripping settings.
Rearrange music in rip music folder, using rip music settings. It is checked 
by default.  Don't know where ripped files go when this isn't checked.


Bob

P.S.  WMP12 is very difficult for me to navigate with Jaws.



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Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


Hi Tom and all. Not sure what to tell you. I had a cd that i ripped that 
had 17 tracks out of 20. I found the 3 tracks in a different folder called 
unknown.
I organize my ripping method by artists directory, then album directory. I 
have found a few stray tracks in other places in these folders.
WMP also moved things around when i had the option to find missing 
information. For example, I had a song that was on a compilation. WMP took 
the song and made a new directory and put that one track in there. When I 
saw the directory of the album name, and I knew I didn't own that album. 
Sure enough when I went to see what was inside the directory it was my 
missing track sitting there by itself with a totally different album name 
in the tag.
So my advice, not the greatest, is too look around your music directory 
that all your wmp stuff goes in to. If it's a big mess try sorting your 
files by last date modified. This will tel lyou what folders have had 
changes made to them in the most recent to the oldest.

Again not sure if i'm helping here or just making you pull out your hair.
good luck
bb
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Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


In my case, I also use Windows Media only to rip music; I then go to My 
Documents; then My Music; that's where my stuff usually will go if I've 
ripped music to my computer.  Once I find it, I then move it to wherever 
I want it; typically to my external drive.  But I still don't know why 
that CD I ripped last night doesn't have all the tracks!  Will have to 
investigate further!

Tom Kaufman
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me!)]



I hate the wmp library and I only use wmp to rip music. I then use 
windows explorer to see where my files have gone.

hth
bb
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me!)]




The problem is that I very seldom boot my Windows PC anymore, but going
from memory, I think you should be able to click on the library view 
and

then view by artist or album to look for those stray tracks. Note that
you can also use other media players like Winamp or FooBar to look
through your library, if those interfaces are easier to use. Even
Windows Explorer should do the trick.

I need to do some ripping on my Windows PC anyway, so I'll take a look
and see if I can offer up any better tips than that.

On 13/06/12 00:59, Tom Kaufman wrote:
Well here's the thing: I know very little about how to navigate this 
WMP

library!  I thought there was an easy way to delete something (I
eventually got there) but I couldn't go back and repeat or retrace my
steps!  I kind of like ripping with WMP for it's ability to title the
tracks right out of the box (CDEX doesn't do this) as I understand it,
you have to set it up to do it!  So maybe if someone would be so kind 
as

to tell me how to search for these tracks (would they be in the WMP
library) it would be most appreciated!
Tom Kaufman
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me!)]



Hi. I agree with Chris. A good place to check is the unknown folder 
if

there is one.
that or the various, or the unknown artist.
When i rip a cd through wmp I actually search to see if there are
multiple entries for the cd sometimes I'll find more than 2 or 3
versions. I can usually tell which is the correct version because
track lists are different or the number of tracks are different.
One more thing, IMO, winamp is a much better autotagger than wmp.
bb
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me!)]



Have you looked around for those tracks? Is it possible they ended

Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-13 Thread Tom Kaufman
Well here's the thing: I know very little about how to navigate this WMP 
library!  I thought there was an easy way to delete something (I eventually 
got there) but I couldn't go back and repeat or retrace my steps!  I kind of 
like ripping with WMP for it's ability to title the tracks right out of the 
box (CDEX doesn't do this) as I understand it, you have to set it up to do 
it!  So maybe if someone would be so kind as to tell me how to search for 
these tracks (would they be in the WMP library) it would be most 
appreciated!

Tom Kaufman
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


Hi. I agree with Chris. A good place to check is the unknown folder if 
there is one.

that or the various, or the unknown artist.
When i rip a cd through wmp I actually search to see if there are multiple 
entries for the cd sometimes I'll find more than 2 or 3 versions. I can 
usually tell which is the correct version because track lists are 
different or the number of tracks are different.

One more thing, IMO, winamp is a much better autotagger than wmp.
bb
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Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:47 PM
Subject: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]



Have you looked around for those tracks? Is it possible they ended up
getting loaded in the library under another artist or album? I've had
this happen to me with different CD rippers, and I usually just edit the
MP3 tags myself to straighten it out.

On 12/06/12 19:42, Tom Kaufman wrote:
Hello list:  I have tried twice to rip a CD, using Windows Media Player 
to my computer.  Both times, it omitted three of the tracks!  My 
question is, Why?  As far as I can tell, I got no error message! 
There is no reason that I can see as to why it's not ripping _all_ of 
the tracks on this CD (it's a commercial CD; one I got from Timelife 
Music.  So what is the deal?  I don't want to have to go through the 
agony of ripping it again, for as I'm sure that some of you know, once 
you've ripped something using Windows Media player (I forgot to mention; 
am using WMP 11 and running Jaws 13) anyhow, when you rip a CD using 
this player, it _will not_ let you rip it again until you first remove 
it from the library!  BTW-can someone tell me the most direct root to 
get to the Windows Media library; then to get to what I might want to 
remove and delete it?

Many thanks!
Tom Kaufman
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Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-13 Thread Christopher Chaltain
The problem is that I very seldom boot my Windows PC anymore, but going
from memory, I think you should be able to click on the library view and
then view by artist or album to look for those stray tracks. Note that
you can also use other media players like Winamp or FooBar to look
through your library, if those interfaces are easier to use. Even
Windows Explorer should do the trick.

I need to do some ripping on my Windows PC anyway, so I'll take a look
and see if I can offer up any better tips than that.

On 13/06/12 00:59, Tom Kaufman wrote:
 Well here's the thing: I know very little about how to navigate this WMP
 library!  I thought there was an easy way to delete something (I
 eventually got there) but I couldn't go back and repeat or retrace my
 steps!  I kind of like ripping with WMP for it's ability to title the
 tracks right out of the box (CDEX doesn't do this) as I understand it,
 you have to set it up to do it!  So maybe if someone would be so kind as
 to tell me how to search for these tracks (would they be in the WMP
 library) it would be most appreciated!
 Tom Kaufman
 - Original Message - From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:28 PM
 Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]
 
 
 Hi. I agree with Chris. A good place to check is the unknown folder if
 there is one.
 that or the various, or the unknown artist.
 When i rip a cd through wmp I actually search to see if there are
 multiple entries for the cd sometimes I'll find more than 2 or 3
 versions. I can usually tell which is the correct version because
 track lists are different or the number of tracks are different.
 One more thing, IMO, winamp is a much better autotagger than wmp.
 bb
 - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain
 chalt...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:47 PM
 Subject: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


 Have you looked around for those tracks? Is it possible they ended up
 getting loaded in the library under another artist or album? I've had
 this happen to me with different CD rippers, and I usually just edit the
 MP3 tags myself to straighten it out.

 On 12/06/12 19:42, Tom Kaufman wrote:
 Hello list:  I have tried twice to rip a CD, using Windows Media
 Player to my computer.  Both times, it omitted three of the tracks! 
 My question is, Why?  As far as I can tell, I got no error
 message! There is no reason that I can see as to why it's not
 ripping _all_ of the tracks on this CD (it's a commercial CD; one I
 got from Timelife Music.  So what is the deal?  I don't want to have
 to go through the agony of ripping it again, for as I'm sure that
 some of you know, once you've ripped something using Windows Media
 player (I forgot to mention; am using WMP 11 and running Jaws 13)
 anyhow, when you rip a CD using this player, it _will not_ let you
 rip it again until you first remove it from the library!  BTW-can
 someone tell me the most direct root to get to the Windows Media
 library; then to get to what I might want to remove and delete it?
 Many thanks!
 Tom Kaufman
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RE: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-13 Thread Adrian Spratt
Tom,

 For locating tracks in WMP, a tip I got from David Biales' manual is to
switch between the library (on the one hand) and all the other options (on
the other) with control-tab. Another way of saying this is if you find
yourself overwhelmed by all the tab sequencing, as I do, just press
control-tab and you should be at the start of the library. Keep tabbing from
there perhaps three times, and a list should appear.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:00 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

Well here's the thing: I know very little about how to navigate this WMP
library!  I thought there was an easy way to delete something (I eventually
got there) but I couldn't go back and repeat or retrace my steps!  I kind of
like ripping with WMP for it's ability to title the tracks right out of the
box (CDEX doesn't do this) as I understand it, you have to set it up to do
it!  So maybe if someone would be so kind as to tell me how to search for
these tracks (would they be in the WMP library) it would be most
appreciated!
Tom Kaufman
- Original Message -
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


 Hi. I agree with Chris. A good place to check is the unknown folder if 
 there is one.
 that or the various, or the unknown artist.
 When i rip a cd through wmp I actually search to see if there are 
 multiple entries for the cd sometimes I'll find more than 2 or 3 
 versions. I can usually tell which is the correct version because 
 track lists are different or the number of tracks are different.
 One more thing, IMO, winamp is a much better autotagger than wmp.
 bb
 - Original Message -
 From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:47 PM
 Subject: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


 Have you looked around for those tracks? Is it possible they ended up 
 getting loaded in the library under another artist or album? I've had 
 this happen to me with different CD rippers, and I usually just edit 
 the
 MP3 tags myself to straighten it out.

 On 12/06/12 19:42, Tom Kaufman wrote:
 Hello list:  I have tried twice to rip a CD, using Windows Media 
 Player to my computer.  Both times, it omitted three of the tracks!  
 My question is, Why?  As far as I can tell, I got no error message!
 There is no reason that I can see as to why it's not ripping _all_ 
 of the tracks on this CD (it's a commercial CD; one I got from 
 Timelife Music.  So what is the deal?  I don't want to have to go 
 through the agony of ripping it again, for as I'm sure that some of 
 you know, once you've ripped something using Windows Media player (I 
 forgot to mention; am using WMP 11 and running Jaws 13) anyhow, when 
 you rip a CD using this player, it _will not_ let you rip it again 
 until you first remove it from the library!  BTW-can someone tell me 
 the most direct root to get to the Windows Media library; then to 
 get to what I might want to remove and delete it?
 Many thanks!
 Tom Kaufman
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Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-13 Thread Brett Boyer
I hate the wmp library and I only use wmp to rip music. I then use windows 
explorer to see where my files have gone.

hth
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]



The problem is that I very seldom boot my Windows PC anymore, but going
from memory, I think you should be able to click on the library view and
then view by artist or album to look for those stray tracks. Note that
you can also use other media players like Winamp or FooBar to look
through your library, if those interfaces are easier to use. Even
Windows Explorer should do the trick.

I need to do some ripping on my Windows PC anyway, so I'll take a look
and see if I can offer up any better tips than that.

On 13/06/12 00:59, Tom Kaufman wrote:

Well here's the thing: I know very little about how to navigate this WMP
library!  I thought there was an easy way to delete something (I
eventually got there) but I couldn't go back and repeat or retrace my
steps!  I kind of like ripping with WMP for it's ability to title the
tracks right out of the box (CDEX doesn't do this) as I understand it,
you have to set it up to do it!  So maybe if someone would be so kind as
to tell me how to search for these tracks (would they be in the WMP
library) it would be most appreciated!
Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]




Hi. I agree with Chris. A good place to check is the unknown folder if
there is one.
that or the various, or the unknown artist.
When i rip a cd through wmp I actually search to see if there are
multiple entries for the cd sometimes I'll find more than 2 or 3
versions. I can usually tell which is the correct version because
track lists are different or the number of tracks are different.
One more thing, IMO, winamp is a much better autotagger than wmp.
bb
- Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain
chalt...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:47 PM
Subject: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]



Have you looked around for those tracks? Is it possible they ended up
getting loaded in the library under another artist or album? I've had
this happen to me with different CD rippers, and I usually just edit 
the

MP3 tags myself to straighten it out.

On 12/06/12 19:42, Tom Kaufman wrote:

Hello list:  I have tried twice to rip a CD, using Windows Media
Player to my computer.  Both times, it omitted three of the tracks!
My question is, Why?  As far as I can tell, I got no error
message! There is no reason that I can see as to why it's not
ripping _all_ of the tracks on this CD (it's a commercial CD; one I
got from Timelife Music.  So what is the deal?  I don't want to have
to go through the agony of ripping it again, for as I'm sure that
some of you know, once you've ripped something using Windows Media
player (I forgot to mention; am using WMP 11 and running Jaws 13)
anyhow, when you rip a CD using this player, it _will not_ let you
rip it again until you first remove it from the library!  BTW-can
someone tell me the most direct root to get to the Windows Media
library; then to get to what I might want to remove and delete it?
Many thanks!
Tom Kaufman
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Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-13 Thread Tom Kaufman
In my case, I also use Windows Media only to rip music; I then go to My 
Documents; then My Music; that's where my stuff usually will go if I've 
ripped music to my computer.  Once I find it, I then move it to wherever I 
want it; typically to my external drive.  But I still don't know why that CD 
I ripped last night doesn't have all the tracks!  Will have to investigate 
further!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


I hate the wmp library and I only use wmp to rip music. I then use windows 
explorer to see where my files have gone.

hth
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]



The problem is that I very seldom boot my Windows PC anymore, but going
from memory, I think you should be able to click on the library view and
then view by artist or album to look for those stray tracks. Note that
you can also use other media players like Winamp or FooBar to look
through your library, if those interfaces are easier to use. Even
Windows Explorer should do the trick.

I need to do some ripping on my Windows PC anyway, so I'll take a look
and see if I can offer up any better tips than that.

On 13/06/12 00:59, Tom Kaufman wrote:

Well here's the thing: I know very little about how to navigate this WMP
library!  I thought there was an easy way to delete something (I
eventually got there) but I couldn't go back and repeat or retrace my
steps!  I kind of like ripping with WMP for it's ability to title the
tracks right out of the box (CDEX doesn't do this) as I understand it,
you have to set it up to do it!  So maybe if someone would be so kind as
to tell me how to search for these tracks (would they be in the WMP
library) it would be most appreciated!
Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]




Hi. I agree with Chris. A good place to check is the unknown folder if
there is one.
that or the various, or the unknown artist.
When i rip a cd through wmp I actually search to see if there are
multiple entries for the cd sometimes I'll find more than 2 or 3
versions. I can usually tell which is the correct version because
track lists are different or the number of tracks are different.
One more thing, IMO, winamp is a much better autotagger than wmp.
bb
- Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain
chalt...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:47 PM
Subject: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]



Have you looked around for those tracks? Is it possible they ended up
getting loaded in the library under another artist or album? I've had
this happen to me with different CD rippers, and I usually just edit 
the

MP3 tags myself to straighten it out.

On 12/06/12 19:42, Tom Kaufman wrote:

Hello list:  I have tried twice to rip a CD, using Windows Media
Player to my computer.  Both times, it omitted three of the tracks!
My question is, Why?  As far as I can tell, I got no error
message! There is no reason that I can see as to why it's not
ripping _all_ of the tracks on this CD (it's a commercial CD; one I
got from Timelife Music.  So what is the deal?  I don't want to have
to go through the agony of ripping it again, for as I'm sure that
some of you know, once you've ripped something using Windows Media
player (I forgot to mention; am using WMP 11 and running Jaws 13)
anyhow, when you rip a CD using this player, it _will not_ let you
rip it again until you first remove it from the library!  BTW-can
someone tell me the most direct root to get to the Windows Media
library; then to get to what I might want to remove and delete it?
Many thanks!
Tom Kaufman
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Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-13 Thread Brett Boyer
Hi Tom and all. Not sure what to tell you. I had a cd that i ripped that had 
17 tracks out of 20. I found the 3 tracks in a different folder called 
unknown.
I organize my ripping method by artists directory, then album directory. I 
have found a few stray tracks in other places in these folders.
WMP also moved things around when i had the option to find missing 
information. For example, I had a song that was on a compilation. WMP took 
the song and made a new directory and put that one track in there. When I 
saw the directory of the album name, and I knew I didn't own that album. 
Sure enough when I went to see what was inside the directory it was my 
missing track sitting there by itself with a totally different album name in 
the tag.
So my advice, not the greatest, is too look around your music directory that 
all your wmp stuff goes in to. If it's a big mess try sorting your files by 
last date modified. This will tel lyou what folders have had changes made to 
them in the most recent to the oldest.

Again not sure if i'm helping here or just making you pull out your hair.
good luck
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


In my case, I also use Windows Media only to rip music; I then go to My 
Documents; then My Music; that's where my stuff usually will go if I've 
ripped music to my computer.  Once I find it, I then move it to wherever I 
want it; typically to my external drive.  But I still don't know why that 
CD I ripped last night doesn't have all the tracks!  Will have to 
investigate further!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


I hate the wmp library and I only use wmp to rip music. I then use windows 
explorer to see where my files have gone.

hth
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]




The problem is that I very seldom boot my Windows PC anymore, but going
from memory, I think you should be able to click on the library view and
then view by artist or album to look for those stray tracks. Note that
you can also use other media players like Winamp or FooBar to look
through your library, if those interfaces are easier to use. Even
Windows Explorer should do the trick.

I need to do some ripping on my Windows PC anyway, so I'll take a look
and see if I can offer up any better tips than that.

On 13/06/12 00:59, Tom Kaufman wrote:
Well here's the thing: I know very little about how to navigate this 
WMP

library!  I thought there was an easy way to delete something (I
eventually got there) but I couldn't go back and repeat or retrace my
steps!  I kind of like ripping with WMP for it's ability to title the
tracks right out of the box (CDEX doesn't do this) as I understand it,
you have to set it up to do it!  So maybe if someone would be so kind 
as

to tell me how to search for these tracks (would they be in the WMP
library) it would be most appreciated!
Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]




Hi. I agree with Chris. A good place to check is the unknown folder if
there is one.
that or the various, or the unknown artist.
When i rip a cd through wmp I actually search to see if there are
multiple entries for the cd sometimes I'll find more than 2 or 3
versions. I can usually tell which is the correct version because
track lists are different or the number of tracks are different.
One more thing, IMO, winamp is a much better autotagger than wmp.
bb
- Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain
chalt...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:47 PM
Subject: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]



Have you looked around for those tracks? Is it possible they ended up
getting loaded in the library under another artist or album? I've had
this happen to me with different CD rippers, and I usually just edit 
the

MP3 tags myself to straighten it out.

On 12/06/12 19:42, Tom Kaufman wrote:

Hello list:  I have tried twice to rip a CD, using Windows Media
Player to my computer.  Both times, it omitted three of the tracks!
My question is, Why?  As far as I can tell, I got no error
message! There is no reason that I can see as to why it's not
ripping _all_ of the tracks on this CD (it's a commercial CD; one I
got from

Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-13 Thread Tom Kaufman
Brett and list:  Based on what knowledge I have (and granted, it's not a 
lot) I've searched for one of the missing tracks from this particular CD, 
using the Windows Search utility; it came up empty!  So I must conclude that 
(for whatever reason) those three tracks did not get ripped..and I still 
have no idea as to why!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


Hi Tom and all. Not sure what to tell you. I had a cd that i ripped that 
had 17 tracks out of 20. I found the 3 tracks in a different folder called 
unknown.
I organize my ripping method by artists directory, then album directory. I 
have found a few stray tracks in other places in these folders.
WMP also moved things around when i had the option to find missing 
information. For example, I had a song that was on a compilation. WMP took 
the song and made a new directory and put that one track in there. When I 
saw the directory of the album name, and I knew I didn't own that album. 
Sure enough when I went to see what was inside the directory it was my 
missing track sitting there by itself with a totally different album name 
in the tag.
So my advice, not the greatest, is too look around your music directory 
that all your wmp stuff goes in to. If it's a big mess try sorting your 
files by last date modified. This will tel lyou what folders have had 
changes made to them in the most recent to the oldest.

Again not sure if i'm helping here or just making you pull out your hair.
good luck
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


In my case, I also use Windows Media only to rip music; I then go to My 
Documents; then My Music; that's where my stuff usually will go if I've 
ripped music to my computer.  Once I find it, I then move it to wherever 
I want it; typically to my external drive.  But I still don't know why 
that CD I ripped last night doesn't have all the tracks!  Will have to 
investigate further!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]



I hate the wmp library and I only use wmp to rip music. I then use 
windows explorer to see where my files have gone.

hth
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]




The problem is that I very seldom boot my Windows PC anymore, but going
from memory, I think you should be able to click on the library view 
and

then view by artist or album to look for those stray tracks. Note that
you can also use other media players like Winamp or FooBar to look
through your library, if those interfaces are easier to use. Even
Windows Explorer should do the trick.

I need to do some ripping on my Windows PC anyway, so I'll take a look
and see if I can offer up any better tips than that.

On 13/06/12 00:59, Tom Kaufman wrote:
Well here's the thing: I know very little about how to navigate this 
WMP

library!  I thought there was an easy way to delete something (I
eventually got there) but I couldn't go back and repeat or retrace my
steps!  I kind of like ripping with WMP for it's ability to title the
tracks right out of the box (CDEX doesn't do this) as I understand it,
you have to set it up to do it!  So maybe if someone would be so kind 
as

to tell me how to search for these tracks (would they be in the WMP
library) it would be most appreciated!
Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]



Hi. I agree with Chris. A good place to check is the unknown folder 
if

there is one.
that or the various, or the unknown artist.
When i rip a cd through wmp I actually search to see if there are
multiple entries for the cd sometimes I'll find more than 2 or 3
versions. I can usually tell which is the correct version because
track lists are different or the number of tracks are different.
One more thing, IMO, winamp is a much better autotagger than wmp.
bb
- Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain
chalt...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:47 PM
Subject: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]



Have you looked around for those tracks

Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-13 Thread Tom Kaufman

But I do thank you for trying to help; forgot to say that before!
Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


Hi Tom and all. Not sure what to tell you. I had a cd that i ripped that 
had 17 tracks out of 20. I found the 3 tracks in a different folder called 
unknown.
I organize my ripping method by artists directory, then album directory. I 
have found a few stray tracks in other places in these folders.
WMP also moved things around when i had the option to find missing 
information. For example, I had a song that was on a compilation. WMP took 
the song and made a new directory and put that one track in there. When I 
saw the directory of the album name, and I knew I didn't own that album. 
Sure enough when I went to see what was inside the directory it was my 
missing track sitting there by itself with a totally different album name 
in the tag.
So my advice, not the greatest, is too look around your music directory 
that all your wmp stuff goes in to. If it's a big mess try sorting your 
files by last date modified. This will tel lyou what folders have had 
changes made to them in the most recent to the oldest.

Again not sure if i'm helping here or just making you pull out your hair.
good luck
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


In my case, I also use Windows Media only to rip music; I then go to My 
Documents; then My Music; that's where my stuff usually will go if I've 
ripped music to my computer.  Once I find it, I then move it to wherever 
I want it; typically to my external drive.  But I still don't know why 
that CD I ripped last night doesn't have all the tracks!  Will have to 
investigate further!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]



I hate the wmp library and I only use wmp to rip music. I then use 
windows explorer to see where my files have gone.

hth
bb
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From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]




The problem is that I very seldom boot my Windows PC anymore, but going
from memory, I think you should be able to click on the library view 
and

then view by artist or album to look for those stray tracks. Note that
you can also use other media players like Winamp or FooBar to look
through your library, if those interfaces are easier to use. Even
Windows Explorer should do the trick.

I need to do some ripping on my Windows PC anyway, so I'll take a look
and see if I can offer up any better tips than that.

On 13/06/12 00:59, Tom Kaufman wrote:
Well here's the thing: I know very little about how to navigate this 
WMP

library!  I thought there was an easy way to delete something (I
eventually got there) but I couldn't go back and repeat or retrace my
steps!  I kind of like ripping with WMP for it's ability to title the
tracks right out of the box (CDEX doesn't do this) as I understand it,
you have to set it up to do it!  So maybe if someone would be so kind 
as

to tell me how to search for these tracks (would they be in the WMP
library) it would be most appreciated!
Tom Kaufman
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]



Hi. I agree with Chris. A good place to check is the unknown folder 
if

there is one.
that or the various, or the unknown artist.
When i rip a cd through wmp I actually search to see if there are
multiple entries for the cd sometimes I'll find more than 2 or 3
versions. I can usually tell which is the correct version because
track lists are different or the number of tracks are different.
One more thing, IMO, winamp is a much better autotagger than wmp.
bb
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chalt...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:47 PM
Subject: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]



Have you looked around for those tracks? Is it possible they ended 
up
getting loaded in the library under another artist or album? I've 
had
this happen to me with different CD rippers, and I usually just edit 
the

MP3 tags myself to straighten it out.

On 12/06/12 19:42, Tom Kaufman wrote:

Hello list

Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-13 Thread Brett Boyer
Hi Tom et al. Ok. One more shot at this thing and I will step off. If the 
track is miss labeled it might not even have the title or artist correct.
In one of the examples I gave last message. My 17 tracks were ripped 
perfectly. There were 3 tracks I had to hunt down. I finally found them in 
other places 1 of them was labeled as track 1 for the title  and the artist 
was unknown. WMP didn't no what to do with it. Like all ms products it tried 
to think for me and put it in the unknown folder under an album folder 
called unknown album followd by a random number or maybe it was the current 
date. There were a few tracks there from a few different discs btw.
So why did this happen? Well when I removed the cd from my library and 
atempted to rip it again i used the search for cd information on the context 
menu of the cd name. I was presented with an edit box to either search or a 
place to manually type in any information. I did a search and sure enough my 
album was listed 4 different ways. Only 1 of these listings had the same 
number of tracks mine did, which again was 20, the other album listings only 
had 17 tracks.
So, armed with this information I hope it helps you im one way or another. 
Another option of course is to use the search for information and go to the 
edit link to manually edit the track names and such. Then re-rip the cd with 
your new info added.
The good thing about wmp, not to say anything about any other program is 
that it's fast, usually makes a good rip, puts proper tags (when it can find 
them) and names the files accordingly. Again I know many other programs do 
this too but For now I'm sticking with wmp.
And again I will stress, no program I have found yet can tag mp3s like 
winamp. I am amazed sometimes how with little information that sucker can 
tell you what it is.

Good luck and I'll shut up now.
bb
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From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]



But I do thank you for trying to help; forgot to say that before!
Tom Kaufman
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From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


Hi Tom and all. Not sure what to tell you. I had a cd that i ripped that 
had 17 tracks out of 20. I found the 3 tracks in a different folder 
called unknown.
I organize my ripping method by artists directory, then album directory. 
I have found a few stray tracks in other places in these folders.
WMP also moved things around when i had the option to find missing 
information. For example, I had a song that was on a compilation. WMP 
took the song and made a new directory and put that one track in there. 
When I saw the directory of the album name, and I knew I didn't own that 
album. Sure enough when I went to see what was inside the directory it 
was my missing track sitting there by itself with a totally different 
album name in the tag.
So my advice, not the greatest, is too look around your music directory 
that all your wmp stuff goes in to. If it's a big mess try sorting your 
files by last date modified. This will tel lyou what folders have had 
changes made to them in the most recent to the oldest.

Again not sure if i'm helping here or just making you pull out your hair.
good luck
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]



In my case, I also use Windows Media only to rip music; I then go to My 
Documents; then My Music; that's where my stuff usually will go if I've 
ripped music to my computer.  Once I find it, I then move it to wherever 
I want it; typically to my external drive.  But I still don't know why 
that CD I ripped last night doesn't have all the tracks!  Will have to 
investigate further!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]



I hate the wmp library and I only use wmp to rip music. I then use 
windows explorer to see where my files have gone.

hth
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]



The problem is that I very seldom boot my Windows PC anymore, but 
going
from memory, I think you should be able to click on the library view 
and

then view by artist or album to look for those stray tracks. Note that
you can also

Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-13 Thread Christopher Chaltain
The only other thing I'd suggest is trying to rerip it with another CD
ripper, and see if that has any better luck. I know I use WMP first, but
if WMP has any problems then I try CDEX to see if that does any better.
For example, the other day I ripped a Gaelic Storm CD, and WMP didn't
come up with the tags, so I ripped it with CDEX, which didn't have any
problems finding the right tag information.

On 13/06/12 19:23, Brett Boyer wrote:
 Hi Tom et al. Ok. One more shot at this thing and I will step off. If
 the track is miss labeled it might not even have the title or artist
 correct.
 In one of the examples I gave last message. My 17 tracks were ripped
 perfectly. There were 3 tracks I had to hunt down. I finally found them
 in other places 1 of them was labeled as track 1 for the title  and the
 artist was unknown. WMP didn't no what to do with it. Like all ms
 products it tried to think for me and put it in the unknown folder under
 an album folder called unknown album followd by a random number or maybe
 it was the current date. There were a few tracks there from a few
 different discs btw.
 So why did this happen? Well when I removed the cd from my library and
 atempted to rip it again i used the search for cd information on the
 context menu of the cd name. I was presented with an edit box to either
 search or a place to manually type in any information. I did a search
 and sure enough my album was listed 4 different ways. Only 1 of these
 listings had the same number of tracks mine did, which again was 20, the
 other album listings only had 17 tracks.
 So, armed with this information I hope it helps you im one way or
 another. Another option of course is to use the search for information
 and go to the edit link to manually edit the track names and such. Then
 re-rip the cd with your new info added.
 The good thing about wmp, not to say anything about any other program is
 that it's fast, usually makes a good rip, puts proper tags (when it can
 find them) and names the files accordingly. Again I know many other
 programs do this too but For now I'm sticking with wmp.
 And again I will stress, no program I have found yet can tag mp3s like
 winamp. I am amazed sometimes how with little information that sucker
 can tell you what it is.
 Good luck and I'll shut up now.
 bb
 - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 5:52 PM
 Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]
 
 
 But I do thank you for trying to help; forgot to say that before!
 Tom Kaufman
 - Original Message - From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 5:38 PM
 Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to
 me!)]


 Hi Tom and all. Not sure what to tell you. I had a cd that i ripped
 that had 17 tracks out of 20. I found the 3 tracks in a different
 folder called unknown.
 I organize my ripping method by artists directory, then album
 directory. I have found a few stray tracks in other places in these
 folders.
 WMP also moved things around when i had the option to find missing
 information. For example, I had a song that was on a compilation. WMP
 took the song and made a new directory and put that one track in
 there. When I saw the directory of the album name, and I knew I
 didn't own that album. Sure enough when I went to see what was inside
 the directory it was my missing track sitting there by itself with a
 totally different album name in the tag.
 So my advice, not the greatest, is too look around your music
 directory that all your wmp stuff goes in to. If it's a big mess try
 sorting your files by last date modified. This will tel lyou what
 folders have had changes made to them in the most recent to the oldest.
 Again not sure if i'm helping here or just making you pull out your
 hair.
 good luck
 bb
 - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:04 PM
 Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to
 me!)]


 In my case, I also use Windows Media only to rip music; I then go to
 My Documents; then My Music; that's where my stuff usually will go
 if I've ripped music to my computer.  Once I find it, I then move it
 to wherever I want it; typically to my external drive.  But I still
 don't know why that CD I ripped last night doesn't have all the
 tracks!  Will have to investigate further!
 Tom Kaufman
 - Original Message - From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:35 PM
 Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to
 me!)]


 I hate the wmp library and I only use wmp to rip music. I then use
 windows explorer to see where my files have gone.
 hth
 bb

Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-12 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Have you looked around for those tracks? Is it possible they ended up
getting loaded in the library under another artist or album? I've had
this happen to me with different CD rippers, and I usually just edit the
MP3 tags myself to straighten it out.

On 12/06/12 19:42, Tom Kaufman wrote:
 Hello list:  I have tried twice to rip a CD, using Windows Media Player to my 
 computer.  Both times, it omitted three of the tracks!  My question is, 
 Why?  As far as I can tell, I got no error message!  There is no reason 
 that I can see as to why it's not ripping _all_ of the tracks on this CD 
 (it's a commercial CD; one I got from Timelife Music.  So what is the deal?  
 I don't want to have to go through the agony of ripping it again, for as I'm 
 sure that some of you know, once you've ripped something using Windows Media 
 player (I forgot to mention; am using WMP 11 and running Jaws 13) anyhow, 
 when you rip a CD using this player, it _will not_ let you rip it again until 
 you first remove it from the library!  BTW-can someone tell me the most 
 direct root to get to the Windows Media library; then to get to what I might 
 want to remove and delete it?
 Many thanks!
 Tom Kaufman
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Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-12 Thread Brett Boyer
Hi. I agree with Chris. A good place to check is the unknown folder if there 
is one.

that or the various, or the unknown artist.
When i rip a cd through wmp I actually search to see if there are multiple 
entries for the cd sometimes I'll find more than 2 or 3 versions. I can 
usually tell which is the correct version because track lists are different 
or the number of tracks are different.

One more thing, IMO, winamp is a much better autotagger than wmp.
bb
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From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:47 PM
Subject: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]



Have you looked around for those tracks? Is it possible they ended up
getting loaded in the library under another artist or album? I've had
this happen to me with different CD rippers, and I usually just edit the
MP3 tags myself to straighten it out.

On 12/06/12 19:42, Tom Kaufman wrote:
Hello list:  I have tried twice to rip a CD, using Windows Media Player 
to my computer.  Both times, it omitted three of the tracks!  My question 
is, Why?  As far as I can tell, I got no error message!  There is no 
reason that I can see as to why it's not ripping _all_ of the tracks on 
this CD (it's a commercial CD; one I got from Timelife Music.  So what is 
the deal?  I don't want to have to go through the agony of ripping it 
again, for as I'm sure that some of you know, once you've ripped 
something using Windows Media player (I forgot to mention; am using WMP 
11 and running Jaws 13) anyhow, when you rip a CD using this player, it 
_will not_ let you rip it again until you first remove it from the 
library!  BTW-can someone tell me the most direct root to get to the 
Windows Media library; then to get to what I might want to remove and 
delete it?

Many thanks!
Tom Kaufman
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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-05 Thread Casey

Hi do you have there version of the mad plug in.
That will work with the newest version of win amp?
If you do would you please send it to me.



On 12/3/2011 11:20 AM, Dane trethowan wrote:

that's not quite true, there are different quality decoders out there
for MP3 files for example, the Mad plug-in for Winamp is one of the
nicest I've heard. There are others.



On 3/12/2011 10:22 AM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:

You're not going to hear any difference in sound quality from player
to player. The only ways to improve sound quality are to use
uncompressed files, or a better audio card. Winamp and Foobar 2000 are
both very accessible.
- Original Message - From: Walter w...@blueyonder.co.uk
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi all. I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players. Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others
are
not accessible with JAWS. At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive. I'm
referring here
to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn. For ripping I use CDEX which I
like. I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I never
did reinstall it. My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned? I have never observed this player being
used
nor of course tried it. Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you need
scripts to access it's functions? How is the playback quality and
response
time. Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful? Finally, what other
players
would you recommend, free or otherwise. The important thing is ease
of use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but
if you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time. All
comments
will be welcome and read. Walter.


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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-04 Thread Hank Smith

Hello isn't that out datated? or did they improve on it?
last I checked you couldn't listen to aac plus feeds and certain stuff 
with that has this changed?

Hank
On 12/3/2011 10:20 AM, Dane trethowan wrote:
that's not quite true, there are different quality decoders out there 
for MP3 files for example, the Mad plug-in for Winamp is one of the 
nicest I've heard. There are others.




On 3/12/2011 10:22 AM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
You're not going to hear any difference in sound quality from player 
to player. The only ways to improve sound quality are to use 
uncompressed files, or a better audio card. Winamp and Foobar 2000 
are both very accessible.

- Original Message - From: Walter w...@blueyonder.co.uk
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi all. I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players. Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still 
others are

not accessible with JAWS. At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive. I'm 
referring here

to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn. For ripping I use CDEX which I
like. I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I 
never

did reinstall it. My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned? I have never observed this player 
being used
nor of course tried it. Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you 
need
scripts to access it's functions? How is the playback quality and 
response

time. Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful? Finally, what other 
players
would you recommend, free or otherwise. The important thing is ease 
of use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world 
but if you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time. All 
comments

will be welcome and read. Walter.


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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-03 Thread chris hallsworth
I use Winamp full time for just about everything except buy music or 
manage my iDevices, which I use iTunes for. I say this as Winamp can 
apparently manage your iPod in a limited way, but choose to use iTunes 
for that and Winamp for others. I know you didn't want anything to rip 
or burn, but I will pass the below on anyway. The free version of Winamp 
allows you to rip at a maximum of 8x in the M4A, or iTunes, format. I'm 
happy with this personally as M4a is the best compared to MP3 in terms 
of audio quality (excellent) and file size (smaller than even MP3). You 
can burn with the free version of Winamp as well but I think you are 
limited to 2x. Anyway back to the point. Winamp is fully accessible 
providing you use the classic not the bundled modern skin that it comes 
with. It works with all screen readers, with or without scripts or sets 
or whatever. I've been using Winamp since 2001, yes 2001, when I was on 
Windows ME and Winamp was 2.7x, something silly like that. I use 5.622 
and it is still as accessible as the early days. There was one 
unsuccessful version of Winamp, Winamp 3, which was an absolute disaster 
in terms of accessibility, and almost turned to another player until I 
tried version 5.0x. Just some thoughts.


On 02/12/2011 23:17, Walter wrote:

Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others are
not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm referring here
to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I never
did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being used
nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you need
scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and response
time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease of use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but if you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All comments
will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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Update on Winamp was Winamp versus wmp...

2011-12-03 Thread Walter
Ok folks.  I have downloaded the latest version of Winamp.  I thank all for
their response but have not been able to reply to each and everyone but
thank you all.  As I said, I've downloaded the latest version and when
installing I had three choices, light, standard and full.  I opted for the
full option, was that a mistake?  Or would the standard or light have been a
better choice?  When I launch Winamp I get the set up dialogue  but I'm not
sure what it is asking me.  The first thing I get is a long list of file
types with check boxes, I assume you can either accept them all or uncheck
any file type you don't want.  I also get a option to enable Winamp agent,
what is this?  If someone could walk me through this I would be grateful as
I don't want to accept stuff that is unnecessary and just confuses things.
I haven't ventured from the first dialogue screen on the set up page.  Your
help would be appreciated.  Walter.


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RE: Update on Winamp was Winamp versus wmp...

2011-12-03 Thread Matthew and Edgar
Hello Walter. All those checkboxes for filetypes are what you want win amp
to be able to play. I usually just choose select all. From what I know
standard should be fine. Also, and this is key. If jaws ever doesn't seem to
be reading right odds are you have changed the skin by accident. You can
only use the classic skin from what I know. You can change this easily by
hitting control p for preferences and then s for skins and choose classic
and hit enter. I hope this is a good enough start and if you have any
further questions feel free to ask.

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On Behalf Of Walter
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 6:55 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: Update on Winamp was Winamp versus wmp...

Ok folks.  I have downloaded the latest version of Winamp.  I thank all for
their response but have not been able to reply to each and everyone but
thank you all.  As I said, I've downloaded the latest version and when
installing I had three choices, light, standard and full.  I opted for the
full option, was that a mistake?  Or would the standard or light have been a
better choice?  When I launch Winamp I get the set up dialogue  but I'm not
sure what it is asking me.  The first thing I get is a long list of file
types with check boxes, I assume you can either accept them all or uncheck
any file type you don't want.  I also get a option to enable Winamp agent,
what is this?  If someone could walk me through this I would be grateful as
I don't want to accept stuff that is unnecessary and just confuses things.
I haven't ventured from the first dialogue screen on the set up page.  Your
help would be appreciated.  Walter.


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RE: Update on Winamp was Winamp versus wmp...

2011-12-03 Thread Walter
Hi.  Well, in the set up dialogue there is an option to select Winamp agent,
the box is checked by default but I don't know what this is and if I would
be better off unchecking it, do you know what it is?  Walter.

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Sent: 03 December 2011 16:18
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Subject: RE: Update on Winamp was Winamp versus wmp...

Hello Walter. All those checkboxes for filetypes are what you want win amp
to be able to play. I usually just choose select all. From what I know
standard should be fine. Also, and this is key. If jaws ever doesn't seem to
be reading right odds are you have changed the skin by accident. You can
only use the classic skin from what I know. You can change this easily by
hitting control p for preferences and then s for skins and choose classic
and hit enter. I hope this is a good enough start and if you have any
further questions feel free to ask.

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Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 6:55 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: Update on Winamp was Winamp versus wmp...

Ok folks.  I have downloaded the latest version of Winamp.  I thank all for
their response but have not been able to reply to each and everyone but
thank you all.  As I said, I've downloaded the latest version and when
installing I had three choices, light, standard and full.  I opted for the
full option, was that a mistake?  Or would the standard or light have been a
better choice?  When I launch Winamp I get the set up dialogue  but I'm not
sure what it is asking me.  The first thing I get is a long list of file
types with check boxes, I assume you can either accept them all or uncheck
any file type you don't want.  I also get a option to enable Winamp agent,
what is this?  If someone could walk me through this I would be grateful as
I don't want to accept stuff that is unnecessary and just confuses things.
I haven't ventured from the first dialogue screen on the set up page.  Your
help would be appreciated.  Walter.


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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-03 Thread Dane trethowan
that's not quite true, there are different quality decoders out there 
for MP3 files for example, the Mad plug-in for Winamp is one of the 
nicest I've heard.  There are others.




On 3/12/2011 10:22 AM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
You're not going to hear any difference in sound quality from player 
to player. The only ways to improve sound quality are to use 
uncompressed files, or a better audio card. Winamp and Foobar 2000 are 
both very accessible.

- Original Message - From: Walter w...@blueyonder.co.uk
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still 
others are

not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm 
referring here

to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I 
never

did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player 
being used
nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you 
need
scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and 
response

time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other 
players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease 
of use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but 
if you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All 
comments

will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus Versus....

2011-12-03 Thread Dane trethowan
I'll throw a forth player into the discussion, I like Itunes, the people 
at GW Micro have - at long last - done a great job with the iTunes 
scripts and it works like clockwork.


the software can be a little challenging for beginners but there are 
plenty of help guides and tutorials around.


I mainly like iTunes I have to admit for the Smart Playlist feature 
where you can create aplaylist and literally programme it to play what 
you want to be played, for example if a song has been played over so 
many times, if a song was added on a particular date and so on.




On 3/12/2011 11:02 AM, Rick Roderick wrote:

I like Winamp because I can always go to the title bar and tell what's
playing.  I have never figured out a way to get WMP to display that, unless
I am looking in the wrong place.

I like the Winamp Book feature, but I can't figure out a way to categorize
things.


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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-03 Thread Dane trethowan
Winamp should suffice most uses yep, I thought Real Player was a part of 
history now?


I've used VLC with the Mac and love it! a very nice player though as yet 
haven't tried it under Windows, I'm told that its accessible? Certainly 
the last Windows version I tried quite some years ago wasn't.




On 3/12/2011 11:04 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I haven't tried all of the players you mentioned.  But I have used 
WMP, Real Player and Winamp; I like Winamp the best!  For one thing, 
with Winamp, it's quite easy to get from point A to point B in a file; 
you can adjust the volume (without having to worry that you'll also 
mess up the volume of your screen reader (Real Player used to have 
that problem; they may have fixed that now) but for what I've used 
players for, I like Winamp!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - From: Walter w...@blueyonder.co.uk
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still 
others are

not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm 
referring here

to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I 
never

did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player 
being used
nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you 
need
scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and 
response

time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other 
players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease 
of use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but 
if you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All 
comments

will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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Re: Update on Winamp was Winamp versus wmp...

2011-12-03 Thread Marsha
HI
  Jaws says you shouldn't use Winamp agent;  however, I use it.  It is 
supposed to keep other players from grabbing the default from Winamp.

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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-03 Thread Dave Scrimenti
Just out of curiosity, have you had someone give you a blind test to 
determine if you can hear the difference, and how much?
- Original Message - 
From: Dane trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus


that's not quite true, there are different quality decoders out there for 
MP3 files for example, the Mad plug-in for Winamp is one of the nicest 
I've heard.  There are others.




On 3/12/2011 10:22 AM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
You're not going to hear any difference in sound quality from player to 
player. The only ways to improve sound quality are to use uncompressed 
files, or a better audio card. Winamp and Foobar 2000 are both very 
accessible.

- Original Message - From: Walter w...@blueyonder.co.uk
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others 
are

not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm referring 
here

to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I 
never

did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being 
used
nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you 
need
scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and 
response

time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other 
players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease of 
use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but if 
you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All 
comments

will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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Re: Update on Winamp was Winamp versus wmp...

2011-12-03 Thread Dave Scrimenti

Uncheck Winamp Agent.
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From: Walter w...@blueyonder.co.uk

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 7:55 AM
Subject: Update on Winamp was Winamp versus wmp...


Ok folks.  I have downloaded the latest version of Winamp.  I thank all 
for

their response but have not been able to reply to each and everyone but
thank you all.  As I said, I've downloaded the latest version and when
installing I had three choices, light, standard and full.  I opted for the
full option, was that a mistake?  Or would the standard or light have been 
a
better choice?  When I launch Winamp I get the set up dialogue  but I'm 
not

sure what it is asking me.  The first thing I get is a long list of file
types with check boxes, I assume you can either accept them all or uncheck
any file type you don't want.  I also get a option to enable Winamp 
agent,
what is this?  If someone could walk me through this I would be grateful 
as

I don't want to accept stuff that is unnecessary and just confuses things.
I haven't ventured from the first dialogue screen on the set up page. 
Your

help would be appreciated.  Walter.


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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-03 Thread Dane trethowan
Certainly have, I know of at least a dozen other people using the 
plug-in who have noticed the difference but regardless of what I or 
others might think, howabout trying it for yourself and giving your ears 
a real treat!


Mad isn't the only one I've listened to, can't remember the name of the 
other one I have here off-hand.




On 4/12/2011 4:56 AM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
Just out of curiosity, have you had someone give you a blind test to 
determine if you can hear the difference, and how much?
- Original Message - From: Dane trethowan 
grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus


that's not quite true, there are different quality decoders out there 
for MP3 files for example, the Mad plug-in for Winamp is one of the 
nicest I've heard.  There are others.




On 3/12/2011 10:22 AM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
You're not going to hear any difference in sound quality from player 
to player. The only ways to improve sound quality are to use 
uncompressed files, or a better audio card. Winamp and Foobar 2000 
are both very accessible.

- Original Message - From: Walter w...@blueyonder.co.uk
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still 
others are
not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a 
good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm 
referring here

to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX 
which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I 
never
did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the 
other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player 
being used
nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do 
you need
scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and 
response

time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other 
players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is 
ease of use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world 
but if you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All 
comments

will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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Re: Update on Winamp was Winamp versus wmp...

2011-12-03 Thread chris hallsworth
Ok in the first screen choose Winamp Classic and click next. On the next 
screen you can leave the file types alone but uncheck use Winamp Agent 
then click next. You might as well skip the rest and click finish to do so.


On 03/12/2011 12:55, Walter wrote:

Ok folks.  I have downloaded the latest version of Winamp.  I thank all for
their response but have not been able to reply to each and everyone but
thank you all.  As I said, I've downloaded the latest version and when
installing I had three choices, light, standard and full.  I opted for the
full option, was that a mistake?  Or would the standard or light have been a
better choice?  When I launch Winamp I get the set up dialogue  but I'm not
sure what it is asking me.  The first thing I get is a long list of file
types with check boxes, I assume you can either accept them all or uncheck
any file type you don't want.  I also get a option to enable Winamp agent,
what is this?  If someone could walk me through this I would be grateful as
I don't want to accept stuff that is unnecessary and just confuses things.
I haven't ventured from the first dialogue screen on the set up page.  Your
help would be appreciated.  Walter.


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Re: Update on Winamp was Winamp versus wmp...

2011-12-03 Thread Marsha
Hi
  Since I have never had any problem with Winamp Agent, and haven't gotten 
any responses, why does everyone un check Winamp Agent?  It keeps other 
players from taking over the default.

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Re: Update on Winamp was Winamp versus wmp...

2011-12-03 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I've just unchecked Winamp Agent because it's just another process I
don't think I need running on my PC. I don't install enough media
players, and I'm careful when I do, so I don't worry about my file
associations getting taken over. That being said, it's a good precaution
for anyone who is worried about it or has had a bad experience with
losing their file associations. I haven't run it in a while, but I don't
think there's an accessibility issue with JAWS. I'd be curious to know
where FS recommends not running Winamp Agent.

There's another utility called Winamp Remote, or something like that,
which as I recall is not accessible and can get in your way of your
winamp experience. It has something to do with controling winamp
remotely. I've always unchecked this option.

Winamp has a nice feature of remembering your settings from your
previous install, and there's an option somewhere where you just tell it
to install Winamp the same way you did before. This is nice because you
don't have to worry about remembering which buttons to check and
unchecked. Unfortunately, because of this, I can't recall which options
I frequently unchecked!

On 03/12/11 13:21, Marsha wrote:
 Hi
   Since I have never had any problem with Winamp Agent, and haven't gotten 
 any responses, why does everyone un check Winamp Agent?  It keeps other 
 players from taking over the default.
 
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Re: Update on Winamp was Winamp versus wmp...

2011-12-03 Thread Dave Scrimenti
I just did it because FS said it was inaccessible and should be unchecked. I 
also like to have as few programs running in the background as necessary.
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Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: Update on Winamp was Winamp versus wmp...



Hi
 Since I have never had any problem with Winamp Agent, and haven't gotten
any responses, why does everyone un check Winamp Agent?  It keeps other
players from taking over the default.

Marsha



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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-03 Thread Stumpy
Do you know if there is a mad plugin that will run with the newest version 
of Winamp?  If so, where can you find it?  I already tried to google it, but 
all I could find were some very outdated plugins.


   Thanks,

   Scott


-Original Message- 
From: Dane trethowan

Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 12:20 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus

that's not quite true, there are different quality decoders out there
for MP3 files for example, the Mad plug-in for Winamp is one of the
nicest I've heard.  There are others.



On 3/12/2011 10:22 AM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
You're not going to hear any difference in sound quality from player to 
player. The only ways to improve sound quality are to use uncompressed 
files, or a better audio card. Winamp and Foobar 2000 are both very 
accessible.

- Original Message - From: Walter w...@blueyonder.co.uk
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others 
are

not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm referring 
here

to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I never
did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being 
used

nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you need
scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and 
response

time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other 
players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease of 
use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but if 
you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All 
comments

will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread Walter
Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others are
not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm referring here
to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I never
did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being used
nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you need
scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and response
time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease of use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but if you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All comments
will be welcome and read.  Walter. 


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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread Dave Scrimenti
You're not going to hear any difference in sound quality from player to 
player. The only ways to improve sound quality are to use uncompressed 
files, or a better audio card. Winamp and Foobar 2000 are both very 
accessible.
- Original Message - 
From: Walter w...@blueyonder.co.uk

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others are
not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm referring 
here

to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I never
did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being 
used

nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you need
scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and 
response

time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease of 
use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but if 
you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All 
comments

will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread Rick Roderick
I like Winamp because I can always go to the title bar and tell what's 
playing.  I have never figured out a way to get WMP to display that, unless 
I am looking in the wrong place.

I like the Winamp Book feature, but I can't figure out a way to categorize 
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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread Tom Kaufman
I haven't tried all of the players you mentioned.  But I have used WMP, Real 
Player and Winamp; I like Winamp the best!  For one thing, with Winamp, it's 
quite easy to get from point A to point B in a file; you can adjust the 
volume (without having to worry that you'll also mess up the volume of your 
screen reader (Real Player used to have that problem; they may have fixed 
that now) but for what I've used players for, I like Winamp!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Walter w...@blueyonder.co.uk

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others are
not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm referring 
here

to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I never
did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being 
used

nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you need
scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and 
response

time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease of 
use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but if 
you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All 
comments

will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread Christopher Chaltain
What are you looking for in a media player? I like Winamp because I can
manage my local libraries, my portable media players and my podcasts. I
also like the bookmarks feature and the ability to skip around in a
file. Handling content over the internet isv't very accessible though.

I like FooBar 2000 because it's interface is so simple. You can also
manage local libraries with it. Setting it up is kind of tedious though,
since you need to set up all of your own hot keys. I don't think it
manages podcasts for you. It does come in a portable flavor though,
which is nice if you want to run it off of a USB drive or SD card.

I still pull up WMP occasionally, but that's mostly just to rip CD's.

On 02/12/11 17:22, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
 You're not going to hear any difference in sound quality from player to
 player. The only ways to improve sound quality are to use uncompressed
 files, or a better audio card. Winamp and Foobar 2000 are both very
 accessible.
 - Original Message - From: Walter w...@blueyonder.co.uk
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
 Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus
 
 
 Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
 players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others
 are
 not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
 enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm
 referring here
 to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
 burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
 like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I never
 did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
 media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being
 used
 nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you need
 scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and
 response
 time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
 opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other
 players
 would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease
 of use,
 it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but
 if you
 can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All
 comments
 will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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RE: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread Walter
Hi.  Well mainly I want other options other than the two I currently use.
The ability to navigate with in a file and particularly the bookmark
facility would be most helpful.  My main concern is just how accessible the
programme is with JAWS.  Also, I understand there are plug ins for the
programme, are they free or do they have a cost attached to them.  Also,
exactly what does the basic version offer?  Does the ability to navigate
within files and bookmarks come within the scope of the standard version or
are scripts required to get full functionality from the programme.  A blind
person can use Gold wave without the scripts if they know what they are
doing but to get the full benefit Scripts are really necessary for gold
Wave, is Winamp the same?  Finally, what other programmes have the Bookmark
facility and ability to navigate within a file.  One other thing I haven't
mentioned but it would be helpful and that is the ability to play a very
large folder of mp3 files in a jukebox fashion.  At the moment I have a
folder with just over 10,000 mp3 files in it.  I have WMP set to shuffle
mode and I merely select all then add to Windows media player and I can play
music for hours without interruption.  This folder is going to grow to
150,000 files and much more.  I just wonder if Winamp will be able to handle
that amount of files in a similar fashion.  Walter.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 03 December 2011 00:23
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus

What are you looking for in a media player? I like Winamp because I can
manage my local libraries, my portable media players and my podcasts. I
also like the bookmarks feature and the ability to skip around in a
file. Handling content over the internet isv't very accessible though.

I like FooBar 2000 because it's interface is so simple. You can also
manage local libraries with it. Setting it up is kind of tedious though,
since you need to set up all of your own hot keys. I don't think it
manages podcasts for you. It does come in a portable flavor though,
which is nice if you want to run it off of a USB drive or SD card.

I still pull up WMP occasionally, but that's mostly just to rip CD's.

On 02/12/11 17:22, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
 You're not going to hear any difference in sound quality from player to
 player. The only ways to improve sound quality are to use uncompressed
 files, or a better audio card. Winamp and Foobar 2000 are both very
 accessible.
 - Original Message - From: Walter w...@blueyonder.co.uk
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
 Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus
 
 
 Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
 players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others
 are
 not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
 enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm
 referring here
 to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
 burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
 like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I never
 did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
 media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being
 used
 nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you need
 scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and
 response
 time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
 opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other
 players
 would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease
 of use,
 it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but
 if you
 can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All
 comments
 will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread Tom Kaufman
Walter:  I would say that Winamp is most accessible; someone I know will 
correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know, no special scripts are needed 
to do things like move within a file and so forth.

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Walter w...@blueyonder.co.uk

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 8:54 PM
Subject: RE: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi.  Well mainly I want other options other than the two I currently use.
The ability to navigate with in a file and particularly the bookmark
facility would be most helpful.  My main concern is just how accessible 
the

programme is with JAWS.  Also, I understand there are plug ins for the
programme, are they free or do they have a cost attached to them.  Also,
exactly what does the basic version offer?  Does the ability to navigate
within files and bookmarks come within the scope of the standard version 
or
are scripts required to get full functionality from the programme.  A 
blind

person can use Gold wave without the scripts if they know what they are
doing but to get the full benefit Scripts are really necessary for gold
Wave, is Winamp the same?  Finally, what other programmes have the 
Bookmark

facility and ability to navigate within a file.  One other thing I haven't
mentioned but it would be helpful and that is the ability to play a very
large folder of mp3 files in a jukebox fashion.  At the moment I have a
folder with just over 10,000 mp3 files in it.  I have WMP set to shuffle
mode and I merely select all then add to Windows media player and I can 
play

music for hours without interruption.  This folder is going to grow to
150,000 files and much more.  I just wonder if Winamp will be able to 
handle

that amount of files in a similar fashion.  Walter.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 03 December 2011 00:23
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus

What are you looking for in a media player? I like Winamp because I can
manage my local libraries, my portable media players and my podcasts. I
also like the bookmarks feature and the ability to skip around in a
file. Handling content over the internet isv't very accessible though.

I like FooBar 2000 because it's interface is so simple. You can also
manage local libraries with it. Setting it up is kind of tedious though,
since you need to set up all of your own hot keys. I don't think it
manages podcasts for you. It does come in a portable flavor though,
which is nice if you want to run it off of a USB drive or SD card.

I still pull up WMP occasionally, but that's mostly just to rip CD's.

On 02/12/11 17:22, Dave Scrimenti wrote:

You're not going to hear any difference in sound quality from player to
player. The only ways to improve sound quality are to use uncompressed
files, or a better audio card. Winamp and Foobar 2000 are both very
accessible.
- Original Message - From: Walter w...@blueyonder.co.uk
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others
are
not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm
referring here
to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I 
never

did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being
used
nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you 
need

scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and
response
time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other
players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease
of use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but
if you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All
comments
will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread Dave Scrimenti

It does use scripts, but they come with Jaws. Most plug-ins are free.
- Original Message - 
From: Walter w...@blueyonder.co.uk

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 8:54 PM
Subject: RE: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi.  Well mainly I want other options other than the two I currently use.
The ability to navigate with in a file and particularly the bookmark
facility would be most helpful.  My main concern is just how accessible 
the

programme is with JAWS.  Also, I understand there are plug ins for the
programme, are they free or do they have a cost attached to them.  Also,
exactly what does the basic version offer?  Does the ability to navigate
within files and bookmarks come within the scope of the standard version 
or
are scripts required to get full functionality from the programme.  A 
blind

person can use Gold wave without the scripts if they know what they are
doing but to get the full benefit Scripts are really necessary for gold
Wave, is Winamp the same?  Finally, what other programmes have the 
Bookmark

facility and ability to navigate within a file.  One other thing I haven't
mentioned but it would be helpful and that is the ability to play a very
large folder of mp3 files in a jukebox fashion.  At the moment I have a
folder with just over 10,000 mp3 files in it.  I have WMP set to shuffle
mode and I merely select all then add to Windows media player and I can 
play

music for hours without interruption.  This folder is going to grow to
150,000 files and much more.  I just wonder if Winamp will be able to 
handle

that amount of files in a similar fashion.  Walter.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 03 December 2011 00:23
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus

What are you looking for in a media player? I like Winamp because I can
manage my local libraries, my portable media players and my podcasts. I
also like the bookmarks feature and the ability to skip around in a
file. Handling content over the internet isv't very accessible though.

I like FooBar 2000 because it's interface is so simple. You can also
manage local libraries with it. Setting it up is kind of tedious though,
since you need to set up all of your own hot keys. I don't think it
manages podcasts for you. It does come in a portable flavor though,
which is nice if you want to run it off of a USB drive or SD card.

I still pull up WMP occasionally, but that's mostly just to rip CD's.

On 02/12/11 17:22, Dave Scrimenti wrote:

You're not going to hear any difference in sound quality from player to
player. The only ways to improve sound quality are to use uncompressed
files, or a better audio card. Winamp and Foobar 2000 are both very
accessible.
- Original Message - From: Walter w...@blueyonder.co.uk
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others
are
not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm
referring here
to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I 
never

did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being
used
nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you 
need

scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and
response
time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other
players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease
of use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but
if you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All
comments
will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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RE: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread André van Deventer
Walter

Don't forget foobar2000 also.  This is what I use for most of my playing.
The downside is that you have to designate your own shortcut keys but this
can be  very easily done.  

Another  interesting option for really a very small fee is Mapler  which is
a small media player written especially for visually impaired persons in
mind.  The amount you pay is neglible if you compare it to what you get for
it.

Just some other options to consider.

Andre



-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Walter
Sent: 03 December 2011 01:18 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus

Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others are
not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm referring here
to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I never
did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being used
nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you need
scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and response
time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease of use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but if you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All comments
will be welcome and read.  Walter. 


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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread Hank Smith

Hello what is the website fore Mapler?
also can you send me off list your keyboard shortcut file fore foobar?
Hank
On 12/2/2011 9:57 PM, André van Deventer wrote:

Walter

Don't forget foobar2000 also.  This is what I use for most of my playing.
The downside is that you have to designate your own shortcut keys but this
can be  very easily done.

Another  interesting option for really a very small fee is Mapler  which is
a small media player written especially for visually impaired persons in
mind.  The amount you pay is neglible if you compare it to what you get for
it.

Just some other options to consider.

Andre



-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Walter
Sent: 03 December 2011 01:18 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus

Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others are
not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm referring here
to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I never
did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being used
nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you need
scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and response
time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease of use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but if you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All comments
will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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RE: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread André van Deventer
Website or Mapler is
http://www.mar-dy.com/MaPlEr/MaPlEr.php

You can actually download a demo from there which  is fully functional except 
for the fact that every 30 seconds or so you hear an announcement that you are 
working with a demo.

I really feel that this little player is more than worth the small sum they 
charge for the full version.



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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On 
Behalf Of Hank Smith
Sent: 03 December 2011 07:33 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus

Hello what is the website fore Mapler?
also can you send me off list your keyboard shortcut file fore foobar?
Hank
On 12/2/2011 9:57 PM, André van Deventer wrote:
 Walter

 Don't forget foobar2000 also.  This is what I use for most of my playing.
 The downside is that you have to designate your own shortcut keys but 
 this can be  very easily done.

 Another  interesting option for really a very small fee is Mapler  
 which is a small media player written especially for visually impaired 
 persons in mind.  The amount you pay is neglible if you compare it to 
 what you get for it.

 Just some other options to consider.

 Andre



 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Walter
 Sent: 03 December 2011 01:18 AM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus

 Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media 
 players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others 
 are not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does 
 a good enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm 
 referring here to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use 
 Nero express for burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping 
 I use CDEX which I like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my 
 PC reformatted I never did reinstall it.  My question is how does 
 Winamp compare with the other media players I've mentioned?  I have 
 never observed this player being used nor of course tried it.  Is it 
 accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you need scripts to access it's 
 functions?  How is the playback quality and response time.  Sometimes 
 the latest version isn't the best version so in your opinion, what 
 version is the most successful?  Finally, what other players would you 
 recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease of use, it 
 is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but if 
 you can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All 
 comments will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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Getting WMP to rip a cd more then once

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Amaro
Hello Listers,
Subject line says it all.  I ripped my first cd using windows media player, how 
ever it ripped it in to WMA format.  So I changed the setting to mp3, but now 
It won't rip the same cd again.  How do I get windows media player to rip the 
same cd in to mp3 format?  Using jaws 12 XP pro.
Thanks
Michael
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Re: Getting WMP to rip a cd more then once

2011-09-19 Thread Byron Stephens
Here's a hint, use a ripper like mp3 ripper or CDex, it's more doable than 
crapdows media player
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From: Michael Amaro mikeam...@earthlink.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:08 PM
Subject: Getting WMP to rip a cd more then once



Hello Listers,
Subject line says it all.  I ripped my first cd using windows media 
player, how ever it ripped it in to WMA format.  So I changed the setting 
to mp3, but now It won't rip the same cd again.  How do I get windows 
media player to rip the same cd in to mp3 format?  Using jaws 12 XP pro.

Thanks
Michael
Windows Live ID:
mikeam...@earthlink.net
Skype ID:
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Re: Getting WMP to rip a cd more then once

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Amaro

is mp3 ripper free?
- Original Message - 
From: Byron Stephens bstephens122...@shaw.ca

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: Getting WMP to rip a cd more then once


Here's a hint, use a ripper like mp3 ripper or CDex, it's more doable than 
crapdows media player
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From: Michael Amaro mikeam...@earthlink.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:08 PM
Subject: Getting WMP to rip a cd more then once



Hello Listers,
Subject line says it all.  I ripped my first cd using windows media 
player, how ever it ripped it in to WMA format.  So I changed the setting 
to mp3, but now It won't rip the same cd again.  How do I get windows 
media player to rip the same cd in to mp3 format?  Using jaws 12 XP pro.

Thanks
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Re: Getting WMP to rip a cd more then once

2011-09-19 Thread Byron Stephens
It's completely free, and I believe you can find it at www.whitestick.co.uk. 
The options are in a windows explorer treeview. I use xp pro from an 
unatended install kit, and mp3 ripper works flawlessly.
- Original Message - 
From: Michael Amaro mikeam...@earthlink.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: Getting WMP to rip a cd more then once



is mp3 ripper free?
- Original Message - 
From: Byron Stephens bstephens122...@shaw.ca

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: Getting WMP to rip a cd more then once


Here's a hint, use a ripper like mp3 ripper or CDex, it's more doable 
than crapdows media player
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From: Michael Amaro mikeam...@earthlink.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:08 PM
Subject: Getting WMP to rip a cd more then once



Hello Listers,
Subject line says it all.  I ripped my first cd using windows media 
player, how ever it ripped it in to WMA format.  So I changed the 
setting to mp3, but now It won't rip the same cd again.  How do I get 
windows media player to rip the same cd in to mp3 format?  Using jaws 12 
XP pro.

Thanks
Michael
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Re: Getting WMP to rip a cd more then once

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Amaro

thanks
- Original Message - 
From: Byron Stephens bstephens122...@shaw.ca

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Getting WMP to rip a cd more then once


It's completely free, and I believe you can find it at 
www.whitestick.co.uk. The options are in a windows explorer treeview. I 
use xp pro from an unatended install kit, and mp3 ripper works flawlessly.
- Original Message - 
From: Michael Amaro mikeam...@earthlink.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: Getting WMP to rip a cd more then once



is mp3 ripper free?
- Original Message - 
From: Byron Stephens bstephens122...@shaw.ca

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: Getting WMP to rip a cd more then once


Here's a hint, use a ripper like mp3 ripper or CDex, it's more doable 
than crapdows media player
- Original Message - 
From: Michael Amaro mikeam...@earthlink.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:08 PM
Subject: Getting WMP to rip a cd more then once



Hello Listers,
Subject line says it all.  I ripped my first cd using windows media 
player, how ever it ripped it in to WMA format.  So I changed the 
setting to mp3, but now It won't rip the same cd again.  How do I get 
windows media player to rip the same cd in to mp3 format?  Using jaws 
12 XP pro.

Thanks
Michael
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Re: Getting WMP to rip a cd more then once

2011-09-19 Thread Byron Stephens
No problem, and you can rip at all bitrates of mp3 as well as ogg vorbis as 
well.
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From: Michael Amaro mikeam...@earthlink.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: Getting WMP to rip a cd more then once



thanks
- Original Message - 
From: Byron Stephens bstephens122...@shaw.ca

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Getting WMP to rip a cd more then once


It's completely free, and I believe you can find it at 
www.whitestick.co.uk. The options are in a windows explorer treeview. I 
use xp pro from an unatended install kit, and mp3 ripper works 
flawlessly.
- Original Message - 
From: Michael Amaro mikeam...@earthlink.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: Getting WMP to rip a cd more then once



is mp3 ripper free?
- Original Message - 
From: Byron Stephens bstephens122...@shaw.ca

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: Getting WMP to rip a cd more then once


Here's a hint, use a ripper like mp3 ripper or CDex, it's more doable 
than crapdows media player
- Original Message - 
From: Michael Amaro mikeam...@earthlink.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:08 PM
Subject: Getting WMP to rip a cd more then once



Hello Listers,
Subject line says it all.  I ripped my first cd using windows media 
player, how ever it ripped it in to WMA format.  So I changed the 
setting to mp3, but now It won't rip the same cd again.  How do I get 
windows media player to rip the same cd in to mp3 format?  Using jaws 
12 XP pro.

Thanks
Michael
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Re: Getting WMP to rip a cd more then once

2011-09-19 Thread Tom Kaufman
Try taking the CD out of the Windows Media library (I don't exactly remember 
the procedure off the top of my head) but if you can accomplish this, then 
you should be able to re-rip the CD.

Tom Kaufman
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From: Michael Amaro mikeam...@earthlink.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 5:08 PM
Subject: Getting WMP to rip a cd more then once



Hello Listers,
Subject line says it all.  I ripped my first cd using windows media 
player, how ever it ripped it in to WMA format.  So I changed the setting 
to mp3, but now It won't rip the same cd again.  How do I get windows 
media player to rip the same cd in to mp3 format?  Using jaws 12 XP pro.

Thanks
Michael
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Re: WMP 12 jaws 12 in Windows 7

2011-07-25 Thread Robert Logue
Hey Brian.  Well, this is a gigabyte motherboard recommended for audio use. 
the computer is from studio cat, which is highly recommended by many blind 
musicians.  So it should be good.  I will write to gigabyte and tell them 
about this.  And since I'm having other issues.  I will also write to studio 
cat.


It is highly likely that some of my other issues are being caused by a 
faulty external hard drive.  I notice that when that drive is turned off,  I 
don't have some of the problems.


Bob.


- Original Message - 
From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: WMP 12 jaws 12 in Windows 7



Hey bob,
Well I really understand you, but you can't be sure that fault is the only 
one  on that board.
Funny enough I've seen exactly the same sound issue on one computer afew 
years ago.


Best regards
Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse- 
From: Robert Logue

Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 7:49 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: WMP 12 jaws 12 in Windows 7

I hope I don't have to return the motherboard.  I'd need to take it out of
the computer, so better to send the whole tower back. Problem with that 
is,

gonna cost me about 60 bucks to ship it as I bought it from an American
company.  And I live in Canada.  I don't want to do that, but I will if I
have to.

Bob.


- Original Message - 
From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 4:16 AM
Subject: Re: WMP 12 jaws 12 in Windows 7



Hi Robert,
Why don't you return that mother Board?

Best regards
Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse- 
From: Robert Logue

Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:25 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: WMP 12 jaws 12 in Windows 7

What does that add up to?  Frustration!

I have a new computer and I have been having all kinds of problems even 
though this computer was made for audio.  You wouldn't believe it.


First there is an error on the motherboard so the only way you can get 
rear channels from the sound card is to plug them into the side channel 
speaker jacks


Next I added an external hard drive with all kinds of media and Windows 
media player went crazy! I repared the library and it still goes crazy. I 
removed that drive from the library and now Windows is taking a long time 
to shut down because the sharing option is taking a long time to shut 
down.


nuts!

As Marvin the Martian said in a Bugs Bunny cartoon quote oh drat those 
computers. They're so naughty and so complex, I could pinch them! end 
quote.


Bob

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Re: WMP 12 jaws 12 in Windows 7

2011-07-25 Thread Robert Logue
Well the reference was actually two learning to use Windows 7, Windows media 
player 12, on a new computer with jaws 12.  Having all kinds of issues and 
not knowing if they were related to the operating system jaws.  The hardware 
or some combination.  I'm finding using jaws with Windows 7.  Just a bit 
frustrating.


Windows media player 12 is quite integrated into the operating system. 
Windows 7, has libraries.


Here is the relevant part from the original message.

Next I added an external hard drive with all kinds of media and Windows 
media player went crazy! I repared the library and it still goes crazy. I 
removed that drive from the library and now Windows is taking a long time to 
shut down because the sharing option is taking a long time to shut down.



- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: WMP 12 jaws 12 in Windows 7



Am I missing something? The subject refers to WMP 12 and JFW 12, but I
don't see anything in the thread below that has anything to do with WMP
or JFW! I'm not even sure Windows 7 is involved here. Now that I think
of it, I don't see that it really has anything to do with PC Audio
either. It's not my list, so I don't really care, I'm just wondering if
I'm missing some earlier part of the thread or something.

On 24/07/11 13:08, Brian Olesen wrote:

Hey bob,
Well I really understand you, but you can't be sure that fault is the
only one  on that board.
Funny enough I've seen exactly the same sound issue on one computer afew
years ago.

Best regards
Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Robert Logue
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 7:49 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: WMP 12 jaws 12 in Windows 7

I hope I don't have to return the motherboard.  I'd need to take it out 
of
the computer, so better to send the whole tower back. Problem with that 
is,

gonna cost me about 60 bucks to ship it as I bought it from an American
company.  And I live in Canada.  I don't want to do that, but I will if I
have to.

Bob.


- Original Message - From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 4:16 AM
Subject: Re: WMP 12 jaws 12 in Windows 7



Hi Robert,
Why don't you return that mother Board?

Best regards
Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Robert Logue
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:25 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: WMP 12 jaws 12 in Windows 7

What does that add up to?  Frustration!

I have a new computer and I have been having all kinds of problems
even though this computer was made for audio.  You wouldn't believe it.

First there is an error on the motherboard so the only way you can get
rear channels from the sound card is to plug them into the side
channel speaker jacks

Next I added an external hard drive with all kinds of media and
Windows media player went crazy! I repared the library and it still
goes crazy. I removed that drive from the library and now Windows is
taking a long time to shut down because the sharing option is taking a
long time to shut down.

nuts!

As Marvin the Martian said in a Bugs Bunny cartoon quote oh drat those
computers. They're so naughty and so complex, I could pinch them! end
quote.

Bob

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Re: WMP 12 jaws 12 in Windows 7

2011-07-24 Thread Brian Olesen

Hi Robert,
Why don't you return that mother Board?

Best regards
Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse- 
From: Robert Logue

Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:25 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: WMP 12 jaws 12 in Windows 7

What does that add up to?  Frustration!

I have a new computer and I have been having all kinds of problems even 
though this computer was made for audio.  You wouldn't believe it.


First there is an error on the motherboard so the only way you can get rear 
channels from the sound card is to plug them into the side channel speaker 
jacks


Next I added an external hard drive with all kinds of media and Windows 
media player went crazy! I repared the library and it still goes crazy. I 
removed that drive from the library and now Windows is taking a long time to 
shut down because the sharing option is taking a long time to shut down.


nuts!

As Marvin the Martian said in a Bugs Bunny cartoon quote oh drat those 
computers. They're so naughty and so complex, I could pinch them! end quote.


Bob

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Re: WMP 12 jaws 12 in Windows 7

2011-07-24 Thread Robert Logue
I hope I don't have to return the motherboard.  I'd need to take it out of 
the computer, so better to send the whole tower back. Problem with that is, 
gonna cost me about 60 bucks to ship it as I bought it from an American 
company.  And I live in Canada.  I don't want to do that, but I will if I 
have to.


Bob.


- Original Message - 
From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 4:16 AM
Subject: Re: WMP 12 jaws 12 in Windows 7



Hi Robert,
Why don't you return that mother Board?

Best regards
Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse- 
From: Robert Logue

Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:25 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: WMP 12 jaws 12 in Windows 7

What does that add up to?  Frustration!

I have a new computer and I have been having all kinds of problems even 
though this computer was made for audio.  You wouldn't believe it.


First there is an error on the motherboard so the only way you can get 
rear channels from the sound card is to plug them into the side channel 
speaker jacks


Next I added an external hard drive with all kinds of media and Windows 
media player went crazy! I repared the library and it still goes crazy. I 
removed that drive from the library and now Windows is taking a long time 
to shut down because the sharing option is taking a long time to shut 
down.


nuts!

As Marvin the Martian said in a Bugs Bunny cartoon quote oh drat those 
computers. They're so naughty and so complex, I could pinch them! end 
quote.


Bob

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Re: WMP 12 jaws 12 in Windows 7

2011-07-24 Thread Brian Olesen

Hey bob,
Well I really understand you, but you can't be sure that fault is the only 
one  on that board.
Funny enough I've seen exactly the same sound issue on one computer afew 
years ago.


Best regards
Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse- 
From: Robert Logue

Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 7:49 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: WMP 12 jaws 12 in Windows 7

I hope I don't have to return the motherboard.  I'd need to take it out of
the computer, so better to send the whole tower back. Problem with that is,
gonna cost me about 60 bucks to ship it as I bought it from an American
company.  And I live in Canada.  I don't want to do that, but I will if I
have to.

Bob.


- Original Message - 
From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 4:16 AM
Subject: Re: WMP 12 jaws 12 in Windows 7



Hi Robert,
Why don't you return that mother Board?

Best regards
Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse- 
From: Robert Logue

Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:25 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: WMP 12 jaws 12 in Windows 7

What does that add up to?  Frustration!

I have a new computer and I have been having all kinds of problems even 
though this computer was made for audio.  You wouldn't believe it.


First there is an error on the motherboard so the only way you can get 
rear channels from the sound card is to plug them into the side channel 
speaker jacks


Next I added an external hard drive with all kinds of media and Windows 
media player went crazy! I repared the library and it still goes crazy. I 
removed that drive from the library and now Windows is taking a long time 
to shut down because the sharing option is taking a long time to shut 
down.


nuts!

As Marvin the Martian said in a Bugs Bunny cartoon quote oh drat those 
computers. They're so naughty and so complex, I could pinch them! end 
quote.


Bob

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Re: WMP 12 jaws 12 in Windows 7

2011-07-24 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Am I missing something? The subject refers to WMP 12 and JFW 12, but I
don't see anything in the thread below that has anything to do with WMP
or JFW! I'm not even sure Windows 7 is involved here. Now that I think
of it, I don't see that it really has anything to do with PC Audio
either. It's not my list, so I don't really care, I'm just wondering if
I'm missing some earlier part of the thread or something.

On 24/07/11 13:08, Brian Olesen wrote:
 Hey bob,
 Well I really understand you, but you can't be sure that fault is the
 only one  on that board.
 Funny enough I've seen exactly the same sound issue on one computer afew
 years ago.
 
 Best regards
 Brian
 
 -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Robert Logue
 Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 7:49 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: WMP 12 jaws 12 in Windows 7
 
 I hope I don't have to return the motherboard.  I'd need to take it out of
 the computer, so better to send the whole tower back. Problem with that is,
 gonna cost me about 60 bucks to ship it as I bought it from an American
 company.  And I live in Canada.  I don't want to do that, but I will if I
 have to.
 
 Bob.
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 4:16 AM
 Subject: Re: WMP 12 jaws 12 in Windows 7
 
 
 Hi Robert,
 Why don't you return that mother Board?

 Best regards
 Brian

 -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Robert Logue
 Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:25 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: WMP 12 jaws 12 in Windows 7

 What does that add up to?  Frustration!

 I have a new computer and I have been having all kinds of problems
 even though this computer was made for audio.  You wouldn't believe it.

 First there is an error on the motherboard so the only way you can get
 rear channels from the sound card is to plug them into the side
 channel speaker jacks

 Next I added an external hard drive with all kinds of media and
 Windows media player went crazy! I repared the library and it still
 goes crazy. I removed that drive from the library and now Windows is
 taking a long time to shut down because the sharing option is taking a
 long time to shut down.

 nuts!

 As Marvin the Martian said in a Bugs Bunny cartoon quote oh drat those
 computers. They're so naughty and so complex, I could pinch them! end
 quote.

 Bob

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WMP 12 jaws 12 in Windows 7

2011-07-23 Thread Robert Logue
What does that add up to?  Frustration!  

I have a new computer and I have been having all kinds of problems even though 
this computer was made for audio.  You wouldn't believe it.

First there is an error on the motherboard so the only way you can get rear 
channels from the sound card is to plug them into the side channel speaker jacks

Next I added an external hard drive with all kinds of media and Windows media 
player went crazy! I repared the library and it still goes crazy. I removed 
that drive from the library and now Windows is taking a long time to shut down 
because the sharing option is taking a long time to shut down. 

nuts!

As Marvin the Martian said in a Bugs Bunny cartoon quote oh drat those 
computers. They're so naughty and so complex, I could pinch them! end quote.

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Re: sync in WMP 12

2011-06-21 Thread David Bailes
Hi Cornell,
 
To manually sync files in wmp12:
First add items to the sync list by selecting them in the main list, press the 
appliction key, open
the add to sub menu, and choose sync list. ctrl+9 is the shortcut for adding to 
the sync list.
Then tab to the start sync button and press it (alt+s).
 
Note that the play, burn, and sync buttons change which list is shown after the 
main list. However, if for example you add a track to the sync list, as 
described above, then the sync list (together with the start sync button) is 
automatically shown. So normally you don't have to press the sync button before 
syncing items as described above.
 
David.
 
original message:
using WMP 12 on Win 7 and JFW 12 latest build. I found the sync button, but not 
sure of keys to sync files to my Stilletto.are there keystroke combos to find 
the actual music files and dropping into sync window? I was able to accomplish 
this in the previous version of WMP. thanks in advance!

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sync in WMP 12

2011-06-17 Thread Cornell Ligon

using WMP 12 on Win 7 and JFW 12 latest build. I found the sync button, but not 
sure of keys to sync files to my Stilletto.are there keystroke combos to find 
the actual music files and dropping into sync window? I was able to accomplish 
this in the previous version of WMP. thanks in advance!

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WMP rip settings

2011-05-22 Thread Cornell Ligon

HI All,
using WMP 12 and cannot locate rip speed settings anywhere. Is that a feature 
no longer availailable in WmP 12 and Windows 7?
thanks in advance!

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WmP 12

2011-05-12 Thread Dean Masters
I have window 7 home premium 64 bit with Windows Media 12. I have installed 
GOM Player as my default media player.

I went to www.acidplanet.com to listen to some audio files. I can get their 
media player to come up but nothing is heard. I checked their help and they 
say if you have another media player as your default you are to uninstall 
WMP and reinstall it. they gave a link where you could download WMP. But on 
that page it says WMP 12  only come installed and not as a download.

so how can I get WMP 12 set up so I can listen to files on this site?

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Another Link To A Streaming Audio That Uses WMP

2010-05-17 Thread Tom Kaufman
Okay folks..here's another page that has several links that _sometimes_ carries 
Philadelphia Phillies baseball games.  Of course, once again..now that I have 
put the word out about my strange encounter, I cannot re-create it!  But I'll 
put it out here..and you folks (should you be interested)..can see what happens 
when you try these links!  The link to the page is 
http://www.freebaseballradio.com/PhiladelphiaMay.html
Tom Kaufman
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RE: Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10

2010-05-09 Thread Brian Olesen
Hi John,
Well here is what you could try.

Open control panel. Then open system. Ctrl tab to hardware and tab to device
manager and hit space.
Now tab to the tree view, where you have all the physical items in your
computer.
Down arrow to cd and dvd drives, or whatever it's called, and right arrow to
expand the branch.
Now you down arrow once, and you are located on your Sony drive.
Press enter, and the properties opens.

If you control tab once to the advanced tab you have various options to look
at.
It depends on which drive which options are shown here, so can't guide you
much further. But an importen thing to ensure is that it should be running
in udma mode for best performance.
You can also check the transfer settings for your drive under the disk
controller.

Hope this was guiding you in the right direction?

Best regards
Brian


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Sent: 8. maj 2010 22:43
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Subject: Re: Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10

Hello Bryan,
I've had this computer for a little more then 3 years.
It's running: Windows XP Service Pack 3.
My CDR drive, was made by SONY.
I don't remember the model number.
It is the CDR drive that was in this computer when I got it from DELL.
My best regards.
  John.
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Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 2:22 PM
Subject: RE: Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10


 Hi,
 We will need more info about your technical specs then. Like operating
 system and cd brand / model.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
 Sent: 8. maj 2010 10:14
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10

 High Bryan,
 If that were the case, then it wouldn't do that to CD's that I burned
 myself.
 But it's doing that with every CD I pop in to the drive.
 If you refer back to my post, I got a message that says, Windows Media
 Player cannot rip this CD correctly.
 The settings with the drive and the device manager don't match.
 Based on this, I think something in the CD rom is a mist, but I don't know
 what it is.
 Help if you can please!
 Again, thinks in advance.
  John.
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 From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 2:37 AM
 Subject: RE: Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10


 Hi,
 It could be that the cd you're trying to rip is copy protected.

 Best regards
 Brian


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 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
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 Sent: 8. maj 2010 03:48
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 Subject: Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10

 Hello all list members.
 Just as the title says, I have problems ripping CD's in WMP-10.
 I put in a CD that I wish to rip to my library,.
 But when I hit the rip button, I get a message that says, Windows Media
 Player cannot rip the CD correctly.
 The settings in the CDRW drive and device manager don't match.
 What does this mean, and how do you fix it?
 Thinks in advance.
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RE: Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10

2010-05-08 Thread Brian Olesen
Hi,
It could be that the cd you're trying to rip is copy protected.

Best regards
Brian


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Sent: 8. maj 2010 03:48
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10

Hello all list members.
Just as the title says, I have problems ripping CD's in WMP-10.
I put in a CD that I wish to rip to my library,.
But when I hit the rip button, I get a message that says, Windows Media
Player cannot rip the CD correctly.
The settings in the CDRW drive and device manager don't match.
What does this mean, and how do you fix it?
Thinks in advance.
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Re: Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10

2010-05-08 Thread DJ DOCTOR P

High Bryan,
If that were the case, then it wouldn't do that to CD's that I burned 
myself.

But it's doing that with every CD I pop in to the drive.
If you refer back to my post, I got a message that says, Windows Media 
Player cannot rip this CD correctly.

The settings with the drive and the device manager don't match.
Based on this, I think something in the CD rom is a mist, but I don't know 
what it is.

Help if you can please!
Again, thinks in advance.
 John.
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To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 2:37 AM
Subject: RE: Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10



Hi,
It could be that the cd you're trying to rip is copy protected.

Best regards
Brian


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On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
Sent: 8. maj 2010 03:48
To: PC audio discussion list.
Subject: Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10

Hello all list members.
Just as the title says, I have problems ripping CD's in WMP-10.
I put in a CD that I wish to rip to my library,.
But when I hit the rip button, I get a message that says, Windows Media
Player cannot rip the CD correctly.
The settings in the CDRW drive and device manager don't match.
What does this mean, and how do you fix it?
Thinks in advance.
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RE: Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10

2010-05-08 Thread Brian Olesen
Hi,
We will need more info about your technical specs then. Like operating
system and cd brand / model.

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On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
Sent: 8. maj 2010 10:14
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10

High Bryan,
If that were the case, then it wouldn't do that to CD's that I burned 
myself.
But it's doing that with every CD I pop in to the drive.
If you refer back to my post, I got a message that says, Windows Media 
Player cannot rip this CD correctly.
The settings with the drive and the device manager don't match.
Based on this, I think something in the CD rom is a mist, but I don't know 
what it is.
Help if you can please!
Again, thinks in advance.
  John.
- Original Message - 
From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 2:37 AM
Subject: RE: Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10


 Hi,
 It could be that the cd you're trying to rip is copy protected.

 Best regards
 Brian


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 On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
 Sent: 8. maj 2010 03:48
 To: PC audio discussion list.
 Subject: Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10

 Hello all list members.
 Just as the title says, I have problems ripping CD's in WMP-10.
 I put in a CD that I wish to rip to my library,.
 But when I hit the rip button, I get a message that says, Windows Media
 Player cannot rip the CD correctly.
 The settings in the CDRW drive and device manager don't match.
 What does this mean, and how do you fix it?
 Thinks in advance.
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Re: Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10

2010-05-08 Thread Sunshine
have you tried other ripping aps like, easy cd da extracter or winamp to rip 
the cds?
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From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 1:22 PM
Subject: RE: Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10


Hi,
We will need more info about your technical specs then. Like operating
system and cd brand / model.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
Sent: 8. maj 2010 10:14
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10

High Bryan,
If that were the case, then it wouldn't do that to CD's that I burned
myself.
But it's doing that with every CD I pop in to the drive.
If you refer back to my post, I got a message that says, Windows Media
Player cannot rip this CD correctly.
The settings with the drive and the device manager don't match.
Based on this, I think something in the CD rom is a mist, but I don't know
what it is.
Help if you can please!
Again, thinks in advance.
  John.
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From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 2:37 AM
Subject: RE: Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10


 Hi,
 It could be that the cd you're trying to rip is copy protected.

 Best regards
 Brian


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 On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
 Sent: 8. maj 2010 03:48
 To: PC audio discussion list.
 Subject: Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10

 Hello all list members.
 Just as the title says, I have problems ripping CD's in WMP-10.
 I put in a CD that I wish to rip to my library,.
 But when I hit the rip button, I get a message that says, Windows Media
 Player cannot rip the CD correctly.
 The settings in the CDRW drive and device manager don't match.
 What does this mean, and how do you fix it?
 Thinks in advance.
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Re: Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10

2010-05-08 Thread DJ DOCTOR P

Hello Bryan,
I've had this computer for a little more then 3 years.
It's running: Windows XP Service Pack 3.
My CDR drive, was made by SONY.
I don't remember the model number.
It is the CDR drive that was in this computer when I got it from DELL.
My best regards.
 John.
- Original Message - 
From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 2:22 PM
Subject: RE: Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10



Hi,
We will need more info about your technical specs then. Like operating
system and cd brand / model.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
Sent: 8. maj 2010 10:14
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10

High Bryan,
If that were the case, then it wouldn't do that to CD's that I burned
myself.
But it's doing that with every CD I pop in to the drive.
If you refer back to my post, I got a message that says, Windows Media
Player cannot rip this CD correctly.
The settings with the drive and the device manager don't match.
Based on this, I think something in the CD rom is a mist, but I don't know
what it is.
Help if you can please!
Again, thinks in advance.
 John.
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From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 2:37 AM
Subject: RE: Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10



Hi,
It could be that the cd you're trying to rip is copy protected.

Best regards
Brian


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[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
Sent: 8. maj 2010 03:48
To: PC audio discussion list.
Subject: Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10

Hello all list members.
Just as the title says, I have problems ripping CD's in WMP-10.
I put in a CD that I wish to rip to my library,.
But when I hit the rip button, I get a message that says, Windows Media
Player cannot rip the CD correctly.
The settings in the CDRW drive and device manager don't match.
What does this mean, and how do you fix it?
Thinks in advance.
 John.
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Re: Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10

2010-05-08 Thread DJ DOCTOR P

Hello Sunshine,
No I haven't, I don't have Easy CDA Abstractor.
And as for Winamp, I haven't tried that one yet.
I did try using Express Rip, but I don't like the way it rips CD's.
The free version won't give me all of the CD information.
 My best regards.
 John.
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10


have you tried other ripping aps like, easy cd da extracter or winamp to 
rip

the cds?
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From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 1:22 PM
Subject: RE: Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10


Hi,
We will need more info about your technical specs then. Like operating
system and cd brand / model.

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
Sent: 8. maj 2010 10:14
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10

High Bryan,
If that were the case, then it wouldn't do that to CD's that I burned
myself.
But it's doing that with every CD I pop in to the drive.
If you refer back to my post, I got a message that says, Windows Media
Player cannot rip this CD correctly.
The settings with the drive and the device manager don't match.
Based on this, I think something in the CD rom is a mist, but I don't know
what it is.
Help if you can please!
Again, thinks in advance.
 John.
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From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 2:37 AM
Subject: RE: Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10



Hi,
It could be that the cd you're trying to rip is copy protected.

Best regards
Brian


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[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
Sent: 8. maj 2010 03:48
To: PC audio discussion list.
Subject: Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10

Hello all list members.
Just as the title says, I have problems ripping CD's in WMP-10.
I put in a CD that I wish to rip to my library,.
But when I hit the rip button, I get a message that says, Windows Media
Player cannot rip the CD correctly.
The settings in the CDRW drive and device manager don't match.
What does this mean, and how do you fix it?
Thinks in advance.
 John.
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Problems Ripping CD's in WMP-10

2010-05-07 Thread DJ DOCTOR P
Hello all list members.
Just as the title says, I have problems ripping CD's in WMP-10.
I put in a CD that I wish to rip to my library,.
But when I hit the rip button, I get a message that says, Windows Media Player 
cannot rip the CD correctly.
The settings in the CDRW drive and device manager don't match.
What does this mean, and how do you fix it?
Thinks in advance.
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Re: WMP Issue

2009-08-14 Thread David Bailes
Hi Mark,

you could try using the seek slider, which you can quickly move to by pressing 
ctrl+tab one or two times. The arrow keys move you by one twentieth of the 
track length, and shift + arrow keys move you by one four hundredth of the 
track length,

David.




original message:
Hi folks,

For some reason I've got a problem with WMP version 11, in that I can't get any 
media to back up...the 'Rewind' button is always shown as unavailable. 

Normally I'm a Winamp user, but for some reason the protected files I'm trying 
to play seem to be causing a problem, or at least that's the only reason I can 
think for Winamp crashing, resulting in the whole system hanging. There WMA 
files if this sheds anymore light on the subject. TIA. 

Regards,

Mark


  


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Re: WMP Issue

2009-08-14 Thread Matthew_2010

David and Mark,

Just tried David's suggestion regarding skipping around in Windows Media 
Player 11 and this works with arrow keys alone and with control or shift 
combinations. I also tried getting a WMA file to play in Winamp and wasn't 
successful. Here is a little more info on the problem:

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=190505

Matthew

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To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 12:50 AM
Subject: Re: WMP Issue



Hi Mark,

you could try using the seek slider, which you can quickly move to by 
pressing ctrl+tab one or two times. The arrow keys move you by one 
twentieth of the track length, and shift + arrow keys move you by one four 
hundredth of the track length,


David.




original message:
Hi folks,

For some reason I've got a problem with WMP version 11, in that I can't 
get any media to back up...the 'Rewind' button is always shown as 
unavailable.


Normally I'm a Winamp user, but for some reason the protected files I'm 
trying to play seem to be causing a problem, or at least that's the only 
reason I can think for Winamp crashing, resulting in the whole system 
hanging. There WMA files if this sheds anymore light on the subject. TIA.


Regards,

Mark





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Re: WMP Issue

2009-08-14 Thread Mark Matthews

David and Matt,

Thanks a Mill for this - using the Seek bar indeed accomplished the task. 
From looking at the info on the Winamp forum page, the DRM is looking to be 
the issue. This doesn't surprise me, as I wasn't even able to acquire the 
license initially, where as in WMP it authorised no problem, which set alarm 
bells ringing in my mind regarding the Management Rights.


Once again thank you!

Regards,

Mark

Mark Matthews
Cardiff, Wales UK

Email/MSN:   mark.matthew...@ntlworld.com
Skype:   MMatthews1981
Mobile:   07800 561442
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From: David Bailes david_bai...@yahoo.co.uk

To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: WMP Issue



Hi Mark,

you could try using the seek slider, which you can quickly move to by 
pressing ctrl+tab one or two times. The arrow keys move you by one 
twentieth of the track length, and shift + arrow keys move you by one four 
hundredth of the track length,


David.




original message:
Hi folks,

For some reason I've got a problem with WMP version 11, in that I can't 
get any media to back up...the 'Rewind' button is always shown as 
unavailable.


Normally I'm a Winamp user, but for some reason the protected files I'm 
trying to play seem to be causing a problem, or at least that's the only 
reason I can think for Winamp crashing, resulting in the whole system 
hanging. There WMA files if this sheds anymore light on the subject. TIA.


Regards,

Mark





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WMP Issue

2009-08-13 Thread Mark Matthews

Hi folks,

For some reason I've got a problem with WMP version 11, in that I can't get 
any media to back up...the 'Rewind' button is always shown as unavailable.


Normally I'm a Winamp user, but for some reason the protected files I'm 
trying to play seem to be causing a problem, or at least that's the only 
reason I can think for Winamp crashing, resulting in the whole system 
hanging. There WMA files if this sheds anymore light on the subject. TIA.


Regards,

Mark

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WMP won't play DVDs

2009-08-03 Thread Dale E. Heltzer
WMP chokes when I try to play a DVD.
It's fine with AVI, WMV, MPG, ETC.
I associated VOB with WMP, I changed the display resolution and color
depth to minimum values, and still no success.
Registry Mechanic doesn't flag Registry errors.

Anyone have a clue for me?

Thanks.
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Dale E. Heltzer
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Re: Tutorial for WMP 11

2009-03-25 Thread David Bailes

Hi Mari,

there's a Jaws guide to wmp 11 which is available at:
http://tinyurl.com/2hwmrn

It was written for wmp 11 running on Windows XP, but I think the only section 
which is different on Vista is the CD Drive Autoplay section.

David.


original message:
Hello, 

Does anyone know if there is a tutorial for Windows Media Player 11 and
Vista? It could either be a text or audio tutorial. Thanks in advance. 

Mari Dole 



  

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RE: Tutorial for WMP 11

2009-03-25 Thread Mari Dole
Hi David, 

Thank you very much. I especially need to know how to make and copy CDS. I
will check out the URL you sent. 

Blessings, 

Mari 



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Hi Mari,

there's a Jaws guide to wmp 11 which is available at:
http://tinyurl.com/2hwmrn

It was written for wmp 11 running on Windows XP, but I think the only
section which is different on Vista is the CD Drive Autoplay section.

David.


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Does anyone know if there is a tutorial for Windows Media Player 11 and
Vista? It could either be a text or audio tutorial. Thanks in advance. 

Mari Dole 



  

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Tutorial for WMP 11

2009-03-22 Thread Mari Dole
Hello, 

Does anyone know if there is a tutorial for Windows Media Player 11 and
Vista? It could either be a text or audio tutorial. Thanks in advance. 

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Re: WMP 11

2009-02-26 Thread David Bailes

Hi,

there's a jaws guide to wmp 11 which covers ripping cds:
http://tinyurl.com/2hwmrn

David.


original message:
I've just installed WMP 11 and can't figure out how to play a movie and how to 
rip a cd.  Are there tutorials on either?
Thanks.




  


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Re: WMP 11

2009-02-26 Thread Gary Petraccaro
Thanks, and, btw, it turns out that I mis-customized the install.  When I 
re-installed and chose the defaults, everything looked better.

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  Hi,

  there's a jaws guide to wmp 11 which covers ripping cds:
  http://tinyurl.com/2hwmrn

  David.


  original message:
  I've just installed WMP 11 and can't figure out how to play a movie and how 
to 
  rip a cd.  Are there tutorials on either?
  Thanks.







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WMP 11

2009-02-24 Thread Gary Petraccaro
I've just installed WMP 11 and can't figure out how to play a movie and how to 
rip a cd.  Are there tutorials on either?
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Re: WMP 11

2009-02-24 Thread Gary Schindler

switch it to classic mode. I think this should fix it for you.
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Re: WMP 11

2009-02-24 Thread Gary Petraccaro
Thanks, I'll try that.

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  switch it to classic mode. I think this should fix it for you.
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   I've just installed WMP 11 and can't figure out how to play a movie and 
   how to rip a cd.  Are there tutorials on either?
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burning audio cds using WMP 11

2008-12-31 Thread Alice
I use Windows Media Player 11 to burn audio cds. However, I have a few 
questions about doing it:
How do I find out the duration of the cd before anything is burned onto it?
How do I find out the total duration of the audio tracks I want to burn?
How do I find out the total size (preferably in megabites) of the audio tracks 
I want to burn?
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Playing MPG with Winamp or WMP

2008-08-28 Thread Steve Matzura
A friend is desperately trying to play standard 48khz/192-bit MPG
files with Winamp.  He doesn't know if any picture is showing, but
certainly there is no sound.  I had him check to see if DirectShow was
in use, and it is.  I tried having install the AC3 default codec pack
you get when you install the DivX video player from www.divx.com, also
n.g.  Any thoughts anyone?


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Re: burning CDs with WMP

2008-08-25 Thread Brian Olesen
hi mark,
the easistest way is to put your songs in a seperate folder and press the 
application key or context key to get into the context menu, and here choose 
the add to play list and press enter.
then you can just stop the mp and press the burn botton or use the burning 
menu.

Brian
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How do you drag songs over?
Mark Bishop
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Hello there,
You can simply go to the file folder of each rip and select individual
songs. Then, copy and drag over to CD drive.Once you've moved all the songs
you want, tab over once, followed by down arrow to 'burn to disc.' That
should then open WMP and you may have to tab over and hit the ‘start burn’
button.
HTH!
Once you’ve put all song files there, tab over once, and then arrow down to
burn



Best Regards,
Cornell

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 Subject: burning CDs with WMP
 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:41:57 -0400

 Hi,

 I ripped all the CDs I want to WMP. Now I want to burn songs from each of
 the CDS, but not every song on every CD. I inserted a blank CD, but am
 stuck on what to do next. I looked at the help for burning CDs, and it
 says I need to create a list and need to drag items to there. I use Jaws.
 What do I need to do and how do I do it to burn the songs I want?

 Thank you.


 Sincerely,

 Lauren

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Re: burning CDs with WMP

2008-08-25 Thread mark bishop
How do you drag songs over?
Mark Bishop
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Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 3:49 PM
Subject: RE: burning CDs with WMP



Hello there,
You can simply go to the file folder of each rip and select individual 
songs. Then, copy and drag over to CD drive.Once you've moved all the songs 
you want, tab over once, followed by down arrow to 'burn to disc.' That 
should then open WMP and you may have to tab over and hit the ‘start burn’ 
button.
HTH!
Once you’ve put all song files there, tab over once, and then arrow down to 
burn



Best Regards,
Cornell

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 Subject: burning CDs with WMP
 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:41:57 -0400

 Hi,

 I ripped all the CDs I want to WMP. Now I want to burn songs from each of 
 the CDS, but not every song on every CD. I inserted a blank CD, but am 
 stuck on what to do next. I looked at the help for burning CDs, and it 
 says I need to create a list and need to drag items to there. I use Jaws. 
 What do I need to do and how do I do it to burn the songs I want?

 Thank you.


 Sincerely,

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