RE: Vivitar Series 1 28/1.9 Lens Focusing
Hi Steve and all Vivitar users, yes it's normal and due to the floating element. IIRC, the rear element is the floating one. If you turn the focus ring, you can see that from a specific point, the rear element is moving ( or was it the front element ?). As it gets hold in normal position by springs, you have to apply the extra force from the specific point of focussing to stretch this springs. As I openend some time ago my sample, I know a little bit more than one can see from the outside. Bernd H. Steve Larson wrote: > Normal. Both of mine do this, and others I`ve handled also do it. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Texas PDML outing invite
Any Texas PDML'ers interested in shooting on June 22nd, there is a photo outing a club I belong is having. Got one other PDML member probably attending, and a non-PDML Pentax shooting couple for sure, and maybe one stray SF-10 user! Any other Pentaxers in the Houston area, we having an ORIENTAL PHOTO Day, the details are on the club website: http://www.blkbox.com/nwhpc I got couch and futon is anyone wants to drive from 'far' - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Mercury 625 batteries?
I've heard that they don't last very long? --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > B&H sells Zinc-air versions of the Px625 by wein for > a little more than 4 > bucks a pop. > > - Brendan > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Mercury 625 batteries?
B&H sells Zinc-air versions of the Px625 by wein for a little more than 4 bucks a pop. - Brendan - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Mercury 625 batteries?
Hey all. I realize this might be slightly off topic. However, I have recently acquired some older rangefinder cameras that use the mercury 625 batteries. Does anyone know of a source to purchase these? Is it legal to ship them to me in the US? Any chance a list member might have some for sale, at a reasonable price? I only need 2 at the momemt. I'm not thrilled about paying $17 for the two that are currently listed on Ebay. TIA, Steve Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cool portraiture (what do you think Shel?)
Not too impressed with what I've seen thus far. I just looked through one portfolio, the homeless. The photos are cliché, and show little connection between the photographer and the people he was photographing. Overall, I was not impressed. IMO, the most important aspect of portraiture, regardless of the type, is that the photographer and the subject have some sort of connection. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > It's OT since it's Rolleiflex TLR, not Pentax, > but I think this guy's work is great. > Enjoy... > > http://www.pyke-eye.com/main.html -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 200/2.5K deal at Adorama
Having had the good fortune recently to stumble upon, and acquire, this lens, I'd suggest that it's one sweet piece of glass. It's a wonderful focal range, not too big and not too small, so it handles well. I'll be getting the first roll of film back from the lab in a few days so I might be able to comment on the color aspects of it, but tonight I developed a roll of D 100, the last few frames taken with this lens. Very nice, sharp negatives. "Paul F. Stregevsky" wrote: > Also a 30/2.8K for $285--not the best price, but if you want it... -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cool portraiture (what do you think Shel?)
I didnt really like most of the portraits, the style of them was a bit to the same and got boring. Although i didn like alot of the other shots on the site. He has alot of work up there and some if it is excellent. Regards, Paul - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:53 AM Subject: Re: Cool portraiture (what do you think Shel?) > I have mixed reactions. The poses are imaginative, but the lighting is > flat. It seems he just goes for an extreme pose and hopes that speaks > for the subject. Interesting, but in my opinion, not very artful. > Paul > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > It's OT since it's Rolleiflex TLR, not Pentax, but I think this guy's work > > is great. > > Enjoy... > > > > http://www.pyke-eye.com/main.html > > > > Albano > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: any pdmlers in boston area?
i knew it, there must be intelligent life forms here! :) Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
New Tools In The Bag
The later part of last month I indicated I was going to buy a new AF camera and a couple of lenses. Several members of the list gave me some things to think about and I am indebted to those who participated in the discussion. My first inclination was to go with a PZ-1p because of its 4.3 fps and 1/250 sec. flash sync. I have to thank Wheatfield and Mark Dalal for suggesting a look at the Nikon F100. That is one beautiful feature laden camera that really feels good in my relatively large hands. It was a tough decision, but I stayed with my original selection of the PZ-1p primarily because of the 30+ Pentax lenses I have laying around here. I located a new one in a box at Adorama delivered with a 4-year Pentax warranty for about $515. The one thing I liked about the F100 was the accessory battery grip that provides a lot of leverage when using big lenses. Since they don't make one for the PZ-1p, I made my own and it really makes a difference. At the suggesting of Mark Dalal, a new resident of San Antonio BTW, and comments from Mark Cassino, I bought the Sigma 100-300/f:4 EX from B&H. I also bought a LN- SMC 28-105/4.5-5.6 power zoom from KEH. I shot three rolls of Portra NC 160 and 400 with the big zoom Sunday morning at a local dog club training session. That is one sweet lens...sharp, great contrast and excellent color. Once again, thanks to all who helped -- Kenneth Archer, San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 200/2.5K deal at Adorama
just a personal experience note: Adorama's ratings are not as conservative as KEH's. Ofcourse there is always a return for refund option :) On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 09:56:29PM -0400, Paul F. Stregevsky wrote: > $365 in EX--a very nice deal. > > Also a 30/2.8K for $285--not the best price, but if you want it... > > Paul Franklin Stregevsky > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
200/2.5K deal at Adorama
$365 in EX--a very nice deal. Also a 30/2.8K for $285--not the best price, but if you want it... Paul Franklin Stregevsky - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: SMC or Super-Multi-Coated?
I'll definitely agree with you about the build quality. Bob Rapp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No! The difference is a rubber focusing ring and, perhaps, a loss of mechanical build quality. I have some of both and prefer the feel of the old S-M-C over the later SMC. Bob - Original Message - From: "smcforme" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:20 AM Subject: M42: SMC or Super-Multi-Coated? > I have heard that there are optical differences between some screw mount lenses marked SMC and those marked Super-Multi-Coated. Is this true? I have never actually seen a screw mount lens other than a 50mm or 55mm that was marked SMC, but I remember reading somewhere that there was a 200mm SMC that suposadly was better than the Super-Multi-Coated version. > Sign-up for Video Highlights of 2002 FIFA World Cup > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Sign-up for Video Highlights of 2002 FIFA World Cup - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cool portraiture (what do you think Shel?)
I have mixed reactions. The poses are imaginative, but the lighting is flat. It seems he just goes for an extreme pose and hopes that speaks for the subject. Interesting, but in my opinion, not very artful. Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > It's OT since it's Rolleiflex TLR, not Pentax, but I think this guy's work > is great. > Enjoy... > > http://www.pyke-eye.com/main.html > > Albano > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: SMC or Super-Multi-Coated?
No! The difference is a rubber focusing ring and, perhaps, a loss of mechanical build quality. I have some of both and prefer the feel of the old S-M-C over the later SMC. Bob - Original Message - From: "smcforme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:20 AM Subject: M42: SMC or Super-Multi-Coated? > I have heard that there are optical differences between some screw mount lenses marked SMC and those marked Super-Multi-Coated. Is this true? I have never actually seen a screw mount lens other than a 50mm or 55mm that was marked SMC, but I remember reading somewhere that there was a 200mm SMC that suposadly was better than the Super-Multi-Coated version. > Sign-up for Video Highlights of 2002 FIFA World Cup > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Problem with list
I was subscibed to the list a while back, when I suddenly stopped getting messages. I never got a majordomo message saying I was unsubscribed. Does this just happen sometimes? Sign-up for Video Highlights of 2002 FIFA World Cup - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Vivitar Series 1 28/1.9 Lens Focusing
Normal. Both of mine do this, and others I`ve handled also do it. Maybe it`s a two speed focusing mechanism? Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 9:18 AM Subject: Vivitar Series 1 28/1.9 Lens Focusing > I just picked up a K-mount Vivitar Series 1 28/1.9 lens. It seems > to be in very nice condition, nicely finished in look and feel (a > typical early Series 1 lens, I would say), except for one possible > thing that concerns me: > > When focusing from infinity down to it closest focus distance point > of about 0.28 meters, there is a slight change in focus feel that > occurs at about 0.41 meters. From about 0.41 meters to infinity, > the focus seems just a little bit stiffer, while from 0.41 meters to > 0.28 meters, the focus seems just a little easier. > > The transition at 0.41 meters seems abrupt (even if subtle), > although it does not feel rough or anything that suggests trouble, > per se. It's just that I have never had a lens that exhibited an > obvious (if subtle) change in focus feel at one focus distance > before. Perhaps it's just that the focus mechanism "changes modes" > at 0.41 meters, or that a floating element comes into play, or > something (???). (Neither my K 28/2 or A 28/2 exhibit any such > change in feel while focusing.) > > Does anyone else out there have one of these critters to > confirm that this effect is "normal"? Thanks. > > Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
M42: SMC or Super-Multi-Coated?
I have heard that there are optical differences between some screw mount lenses marked SMC and those marked Super-Multi-Coated. Is this true? I have never actually seen a screw mount lens other than a 50mm or 55mm that was marked SMC, but I remember reading somewhere that there was a 200mm SMC that suposadly was better than the Super-Multi-Coated version. Sign-up for Video Highlights of 2002 FIFA World Cup - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Vivitar Series 1 28/1.9 Lens Focusing
I just checked my 28/1.9K and confirmed what Shel reported: the change in focusing effort is normal. I think Steve Larson called it a clutch. Perhaps it is related to the floating elements, even though, as you point out, no such two-stage effort is found in the floating-element 28/2K. If you're interested, I have an Adorama-brand black metal circular threaded 58mm wide-angle hood that I bought for this lens. It measures 93mm (3.7 inches) in diameter by 22mm (0.8 in.) deep. $8 shipped. (I now have an original Vivitar hood.) Paul Franklin Stregevsky - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 6X7 Chromes
JCO wrote: > Just got back my first roll of > slide film using the 67. WOW! > Damn these 6X7 chromes are nice. Well, I dare say it's about time! All that mucking about w/ TMax films is far to labor-intensive. E-6 is done when you get it back. ;^)Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: 67 & batteries in LOOONG exposures
Frantisek, I have found that two things cause enablement for the 67 system. First is to hold and use it. For those who enjoy the old manual days (early K thru M), the feel and usage of the system is nothing short of wonderful. Those liking the Super Program and later bodies might like the 645n better. But, oh, the feeling of using that big, smooth system is so enjoyable to me. With the 67II you even have more metering options (Center Weighted, Spot and Matrix). The second and perhaps bigger enablement factor is looking at the negs/prints or slides from this system. Simply astounding! There is such a marked difference between that and 35mm. I used to pursue the very best optical quality lenses I could and the slowest, finest grained film to produce good shots. The 67 size has it all over 35mm. It makes it very easy to choose when to use the 67 - whenever possible! There are still some cases where 35mm works better, but image quality suffers. Once bitten, it is hard to resist. Brother Bruce Tuesday, June 11, 2002, 2:48:03 PM, you wrote: >snip< FV> frantisek (When I shot with Aaron's 67 and 2.8/75 AL this weekend, FV> I made the worst mistake of my life... now I want one of my own FV> too!!! Aaron's the best enabler here in the 'hood of bloat - oh FV> sacrilege ) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Phoenix Ringlight Flash & TTL
Does anybody out there use a Phoenix ringlight flash? Does it link up to TTL metering in the LX or Super Program. Or the PZ-1 for that matter... Regards, Bob S. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: EI-2000 digital camera
Steven, It's a pretty nice digital camera. I have the HP 912, which is the same thing. The camera is a joint effort betwen HP and Pentax. It falls into the consumer catagory of cameras (IMHO) like the low end Pentax SLR's. Has many of the same features. The zoom is a little slow, but gets the job done. The digital output is nice and clean, give nice high res jpg's of tiff output. The major drawbacks are very limited accessories and options. If you like lots of gadgets this is not for you. Doesn't compeate with the other major brand bodies. It's starting to shows it's age with the 2.2 MP sensor, but I still get some nice 8x10's out of it. Better than some digital P&S's, but below a true digital SLR. Mark -Original Message- From: Steve Desjardins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: EI-2000 digital camera Greetings, I noticed on the pentax European site that they have a digital ZLR camera called the EI-2000. Interestingly, it has that pentax look to it, but only has a 2.2 MP sensor. Does anyone know anything about this? Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 463-8873 FAX: (540) 463-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Pentax 6x7
Hi Ali, You can check here for instructions on repairing a broken chain: http://www.salzgeber.at/articles/6x7chainRepair.html As Mark Roberts notes, I had this problem with my 6x7 and was able to repair it myself. You could probably find a suitable piece of silver chain at a jewelry store or jewelry repair shop. You'll need a piece 4 cm in length. Might be more difficult to find another aperture coupling ring, but I'd think these would be quite difficult to break and would generally not need replacement. You might want to watch eBay for a good price on a broken camera, then use it for extra parts -- or possibly check with Pentax in Englewood, Colorado to see if they have such an item in stock. Hope this helps. Bill Peifer Rochester, NY > -Original Message- > From: a.fyffe1 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 2:43 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Pentax 6x7 > > I am looking for source of spares for my Pentax 6x7. Particularly looking > for > meter coupling chain and the ring that it connects to in the lense barrel > > Appreciate any help with this. > > Ali > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Vivitar Series 1 28/1.9 Lens Focusing
Fred, I don't have one, but have had the opportunity to try three samples, and they've all exhibited similar behavior. I recall using one of Steve Larson's Viv 1 lenses, although maybe not the 28/1.9, and noticed a similar effect. I believe Steve said it was normal. Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fred wrote: > When focusing from infinity down to it closest focus distance point > of about 0.28 meters, there is a slight change in focus feel that > occurs at about 0.41 meters. From about 0.41 meters to infinity, > the focus seems just a little bit stiffer, while from 0.41 meters to > 0.28 meters, the focus seems just a little easier. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
EI-2000 digital camera
Greetings, I noticed on the pentax European site that they have a digital ZLR camera called the EI-2000. Interestingly, it has that pentax look to it, but only has a 2.2 MP sensor. Does anyone know anything about this? Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 463-8873 FAX: (540) 463-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Re[2]: (2): film in the fridge?
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of gfen > > > On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, tom wrote: > > No. The only variation I see in curl is brand to brand. > D3200 is the > > worst. > > I think he first noted it when we were both shooting tmax > 400, and he > developed the rolls for me. > > I will say, however, that I always buy imported, and he > buys teh US stuff. > Actually (backtracking a little), curl is also affected by the ambient humidity when drying. The more humid, the less curl. I suppose a drying aid could have an affect as well, but basically my point is that I don't see how storage temperature could affect curl when so many other things obviously do. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Re[2]: (2): film in the fridge?
On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, tom wrote: > No. The only variation I see in curl is brand to brand. D3200 is the > worst. I think he first noted it when we were both shooting tmax 400, and he developed the rolls for me. I will say, however, that I always buy imported, and he buys teh US stuff. -- http://www.infotainment.org "The destructive character is cheerful." - Walter Benjamin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: any pdmlers in boston area?
I'm in Hanover NH, so not too far away. Regards, /\/\ick... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Cost of Black and White Film Processing?
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeff Post > > > Where I get my film developed here is Massachusetts, USA, > it is $5.00 to > develop and then $0.30 a print. Basically $15.80 to > develop and print a > roll of 36. For regular b+w? I pay more than that for color tv > At 11:11 PM 6/10/2002 -0400, you wrote: > >Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 18:22:08 -0700 > >From: "harald_nancy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Cost of Black and White Film Processing? > > > >Just got back from a trip, and took a few rolls of black > and white Tri-X. > >First time I've used black and white in many years. > >The sticker shock, Kits Camera wants $16.00 to develop and print > >a 36 exposure b&w roll. Is that a normal price? > >Last time I used black and white, it was less expensive than color. > >Does anyone know a more cost effective lab for b&w film processing? > >I'm not planning to develop and print my own b&w. > >Thanks for any info. > >Harald > >- - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Re[2]: (2): film in the fridge?
No. The only variation I see in curl is brand to brand. D3200 is the worst. tv -- Thomas Van Veen Photography www.bigdayphoto.com 301-758-3085 > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bruce Dayton > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 12:37 PM > To: gfen > Subject: Re[2]: (2): film in the fridge? > > > That's news to me. I've never heard anything about it. I wonder if > it is related to specific films. Certainly most professional films > are refrigerated by manufacturer specification. > > Anybody else heard of this issue? > > > Bruce > > > > Tuesday, June 11, 2002, 7:33:06 AM, you wrote: > > g> On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > >> It's not too cold. My freezer is at about 0-degrees F. > As long as you > >> allow the film to come to room temp, or close to it, > before opening the > >> canister, all will be fine. > > g> Does anyone notice increased curling on frozen film? > > g> My friend was the one who poitned it out to me. He > doesn't chill his film > g> at all. His curl is minimal. I put mine in the fridge. > It can have a > g> pretty brutal curl to it, unless I'm careful when I dry > it. I froze my > g> film a time or two, and the curling was atrotcious on > development. I don't > g> even think hanging weights helped it too much. > > g> -g. > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
any pdmlers in boston area?
subj. -- just curious Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: (2): film in the fridge?
That's news to me. I've never heard anything about it. I wonder if it is related to specific films. Certainly most professional films are refrigerated by manufacturer specification. Anybody else heard of this issue? Bruce Tuesday, June 11, 2002, 7:33:06 AM, you wrote: g> On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Shel Belinkoff wrote: >> It's not too cold. My freezer is at about 0-degrees F. As long as you >> allow the film to come to room temp, or close to it, before opening the >> canister, all will be fine. g> Does anyone notice increased curling on frozen film? g> My friend was the one who poitned it out to me. He doesn't chill his film g> at all. His curl is minimal. I put mine in the fridge. It can have a g> pretty brutal curl to it, unless I'm careful when I dry it. I froze my g> film a time or two, and the curling was atrotcious on development. I don't g> even think hanging weights helped it too much. g> -g. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ME-F Bodies...Why so little mention?
On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Fred wrote: > Prices vary a lot. On eBay, I've seen LNIB ones go for about $150 > USD. (I was lucky to get a LNIB one for just under $100, but I was I let KEH give me an online qoute for $200 (although, I think I should've opted for the next condition down than I did). At that rate, it sounds like I'd be better off trying to sell it to them? > lucky.) At the other extreme, I've seen used ones go for as little > as about $50 USD. A somewhat common statement made by sellers of I actually bought it from Adorama awhile ago for a price much closer to that.. > these lenses is "I don't have the camera body to test this with, so > I'm selling it 'as is'". (Of course, the same sort of statement is Finding pentax gear in local shops is next to impossible. Finding a working ME-F is going to be past impossible. :) Perhaps I'll just send it off to KEH and let them give me what they will, since it sounds like they'll probably give me more. Oh well. -- http://www.infotainment.org "The destructive character is cheerful." - Walter Benjamin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Converter for Tokina AT-X 100-300/4?
>> Now, I have a question. I'm looking for a good 1.4 converter to >> my old MF Tokina AT-X 100-300/4 zoom. Which high-quality >> teleconverter gives good results with that lens? I have tried >> with the Pentax AF 1.7, and I didn't like the results, at least >> not stopped down to 5.6. > The Pentax 2X-S is vert good indeed. I have used both the A 2X-S and the older T6-2X with several prime lenses, and I have found these TC's to be both very good (considering, of course, that a TC is always a compromise), and very difficult to tell apart optically. However, although I also have a Tokina AT-X 100-300/4 (a ~very~ good zoom, by the way), I have to confess that I have never used either of those TC's (or the A 1.4X-S, either) with that zoom. So, I can't provide a specific report for you, Erik, but I would suggest that either the A 2X-S or the T6-2X would probably work with the 100-300/4 as well as would any TC. Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Vivitar Series 1 28/1.9 Lens Focusing
I just picked up a K-mount Vivitar Series 1 28/1.9 lens. It seems to be in very nice condition, nicely finished in look and feel (a typical early Series 1 lens, I would say), except for one possible thing that concerns me: When focusing from infinity down to it closest focus distance point of about 0.28 meters, there is a slight change in focus feel that occurs at about 0.41 meters. From about 0.41 meters to infinity, the focus seems just a little bit stiffer, while from 0.41 meters to 0.28 meters, the focus seems just a little easier. The transition at 0.41 meters seems abrupt (even if subtle), although it does not feel rough or anything that suggests trouble, per se. It's just that I have never had a lens that exhibited an obvious (if subtle) change in focus feel at one focus distance before. Perhaps it's just that the focus mechanism "changes modes" at 0.41 meters, or that a floating element comes into play, or something (???). (Neither my K 28/2 or A 28/2 exhibit any such change in feel while focusing.) Does anyone else out there have one of these critters to confirm that this effect is "normal"? Thanks. Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Saturday E-6 processing in Calgary
- Original Message - From: Herb Chong Subject: Saturday E-6 processing in Calgary > since there seems to be a Canadian contigent on this list living nearby, > does anyone have a recommendation for a place that does E-6 processing on > Saturdays in Calgary? i went to Vistek/West Canadian to look at their used > camera stuff while on my trip here and i was surprised to find out that > they didn't do E-6 on Saturdays. Calgary isn't that small. well, i'll be > back from Jasper Friday night and i want to get my Provia processed before > heading back home through the airports. no sense in subjecting the film to > more X-rays than necessary. the guy at Vistek recommended the big London > Drugs in the NE. Try Nova Photo on (I think) 10th Ave SW @ 9th. (It's around there someplace), or possibly Calgary Photo (if they do E-6 at all, I don't know), which is in the same area as Nova, I think just a block or two away. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Non MLU 6x7
- Original Message - From: Paul Ewins Subject: Non MLU 6x7 > A question for the Brotherhood: > I received a couple of fixer-upper come "parts" 6x7's in the mail > today, and while they are both definietly non MLU, there are a number of > detail differences between them. One is serial # 40042xx while the other is > 40348xx, so presumably they are 30600 units apart. > The most obvious differences are the film reel locks on the bottom plate, > which are a the same as the battery case on the newee model, but on the > older one are simply moved by thumb pressure on a textured surface which > looks kind of like a microprism grid. The bottom plate is different on both > to accomodat the change. The battery covers are different too (more satin > chrome on one) and the wind lever is also different. Some of the lettering > is pale blue on one and pale green on the other and the numbering on the > shutter speed dial is thicker on one than on the other. > Does anyone know when these sort of changes were made? Is this a case of a > mark 1 and mark 2 version of the non MLU 6x7, or were there a number of > variations in its life? You got an early non MLU model from the first few years of production, and a later non MLU version, from a year or so prior to the MLU cameras coming out. I am not entirely sure of the dates, I think the 6x7 first came out in the very early 1970s, and they added MLU about 6 years later. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Converter for Tokina AT-X 100-300/4?
- Original Message - From: Erik Nordin Subject: Converter for Tokina AT-X 100-300/4? > > Now, I have a question. I'm looking for a good 1.4 converter to my old MF > Tokina AT-X 100-300/4 zoom. Which high-quality teleconverter gives good > results with that lens? I have tried with the Pentax AF 1.7, and I didn't > like the results, at least not stopped down to 5.6. The Pentax 2X-S is vert good indeed. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Saturday E-6 processing in Calgary
since there seems to be a Canadian contigent on this list living nearby, does anyone have a recommendation for a place that does E-6 processing on Saturdays in Calgary? i went to Vistek/West Canadian to look at their used camera stuff while on my trip here and i was surprised to find out that they didn't do E-6 on Saturdays. Calgary isn't that small. well, i'll be back from Jasper Friday night and i want to get my Provia processed before heading back home through the airports. no sense in subjecting the film to more X-rays than necessary. the guy at Vistek recommended the big London Drugs in the NE. Herb... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cost of Black and White Film Processing?
Where I get my film developed here is Massachusetts, USA, it is $5.00 to develop and then $0.30 a print. Basically $15.80 to develop and print a roll of 36. Jeff At 11:11 PM 6/10/2002 -0400, you wrote: >Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 18:22:08 -0700 >From: "harald_nancy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Cost of Black and White Film Processing? > >Just got back from a trip, and took a few rolls of black and white Tri-X. >First time I've used black and white in many years. >The sticker shock, Kits Camera wants $16.00 to develop and print >a 36 exposure b&w roll. Is that a normal price? >Last time I used black and white, it was less expensive than color. >Does anyone know a more cost effective lab for b&w film processing? >I'm not planning to develop and print my own b&w. >Thanks for any info. >Harald >- - >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cool picture
Chris Stoddart wrote: > Gary Rothwell?? Here he is doing a stoppie at Laguna Seca anyway. > > http://photo.popmonkey.com/9807lagunaseca/big/9807Rothwell_stoppie.html Yes, of course. That's the name. Thanks, Chris. Stephen - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: (2): film in the fridge?
On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > It's not too cold. My freezer is at about 0-degrees F. As long as you > allow the film to come to room temp, or close to it, before opening the > canister, all will be fine. Does anyone notice increased curling on frozen film? My friend was the one who poitned it out to me. He doesn't chill his film at all. His curl is minimal. I put mine in the fridge. It can have a pretty brutal curl to it, unless I'm careful when I dry it. I froze my film a time or two, and the curling was atrotcious on development. I don't even think hanging weights helped it too much. -g. -- http://www.infotainment.org "The destructive character is cheerful." - Walter Benjamin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cool picture
Stephen Moore wrote: >Mark Roberts wrote: > >> Ah, you mean this: http://www.steves-digicams.com/dpotd/jun2002/06102002.jpg > >Yeah, somehow "Ottawa Tulip Festival" didn't quite fit the >ensuing comments :-) > >> I've seen stunt riders do this for over a hundred yards and then put the >> wheel back down. This guy is clearly one of them (notice the bach plate >> bolted on the exhaust under the engine) and knows what he's doing. > >There's a somewhat famous guy (whose name escapes me, of course) >who's appeared at several AMA Superbike races over the last couple >of years. In addition to "wheelies," he also does "stoppies -- >the front-wheel equivalent of this -- with one, two, and sometimes >three other people aboard. Helps satisfy the natural human desire >to look at somebody doing something and be able to say, >"Wow! That guy's *nuts*!" > >Mark, help me out if you can. What's his name? There are a lot of people specializing in these kind of stunts now (Starboyz being the group I saw last year). The superbike races often have them as kind of a "half-time show" between races. Two-up stoppies are routine now. The famous Wheelie King was Doug Domokos (who was killed in an ultralight aircraft accident in 2000) may have done that kind of stuff. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: (2): film in the fridge?
It's not too cold. My freezer is at about 0-degrees F. As long as you allow the film to come to room temp, or close to it, before opening the canister, all will be fine. David Brooks wrote: > > I quess nows the time to ask my question,although > Shel may have answered it with his freezer comment. > I measured the temp in my home fridge and its about > +5 to 6 C(+48 Far).Is that to cold or is it ok. > The two places i buy my Portra, Provia etc seem > to have their store fridge around + 55 Far(+12 C) > BTW I let the film climatize at least 3-4 hours,or > overnight if i can plan ahead. scb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cool picture
> Mark, help me out if you can. What's his name? Gary Rothwell?? Here he is doing a stoppie at Laguna Seca anyway. http://photo.popmonkey.com/9807lagunaseca/big/9807Rothwell_stoppie.html HTH? :-) Chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cool picture
Mark Roberts wrote: > Ah, you mean this: http://www.steves-digicams.com/dpotd/jun2002/06102002.jpg Yeah, somehow "Ottawa Tulip Festival" didn't quite fit the ensuing comments :-) > I've seen stunt riders do this for over a hundred yards and then put the > wheel back down. This guy is clearly one of them (notice the bach plate > bolted on the exhaust under the engine) and knows what he's doing. There's a somewhat famous guy (whose name escapes me, of course) who's appeared at several AMA Superbike races over the last couple of years. In addition to "wheelies," he also does "stoppies -- the front-wheel equivalent of this -- with one, two, and sometimes three other people aboard. Helps satisfy the natural human desire to look at somebody doing something and be able to say, "Wow! That guy's *nuts*!" Mark, help me out if you can. What's his name? Stephen - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS: B+W 010 MC filter, $14
I just sold off the last of my lenses that used 49mm filters, and I still have one of these top-of-the-line B&H multicoated UVs for sale, in great condition with clean glass. $14 + $3 shipping to US, or $5 to Canada. This is half the B&H new price. Paul Franklin Stregevsky 13 Selby Court Poolesville, Maryland 20837-2410 [EMAIL PROTECTED] H (301) 349-5243 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cool picture
Nick Wright wrote: > >Bruce Dayton asked if this guy could pull out of this. For my fairly limited >experience with motorbikes I believe he could have pulled out of it. A >slight pressure on the rear brake should've put the front wheel back down. >But... from the look on this guy's face I'd almost bet that he lost it after >the photo was taken. Ah, you mean this: http://www.steves-digicams.com/dpotd/jun2002/06102002.jpg I've seen stunt riders do this for over a hundred yards and then put the wheel back down. This guy is clearly one of them (notice the bach plate bolted on the exhaust under the engine) and knows what he's doing. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Re: Cost of Black and White Film Processing?
Yep... Process only: $6.00 CDN with prints 4x6: $24.00 - 26.00 That's in CDN funds as well per roll of 36.. now does anyone wonder why I've turned back to developing my own ? :) Cheers, Dave (as well) Original Message: - From: David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 08:02:23 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cost of Black and White Film Processing? Hi Harald. Just looking at an old bill from May. Process 2 rolls of 36 $10.00 Proofs,4x6 times 72 $46.80 Add taxes $65.32 Total Above are in Canadian funds Us would be about $40.00 Dave Begin Original Message From: "harald_nancy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 18:22:08 -0700 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Cost of Black and White Film Processing? Just got back from a trip, and took a few rolls of black and white Tri-X. First time I've used black and white in many years. The sticker shock, Kits Camera wants $16.00 to develop and print a 36 exposure b&w roll. Is that a normal price? Last time I used black and white, it was less expensive than color. Does anyone know a more cost effective lab for b&w film processing? I'm not planning to develop and print my own b&w. Thanks for any info. Harald - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Photo of Jet Breaking the Sound Barrier
Daniel J. Matyola >On the contrary, courts in my jurisdiction frequently admit drawing of >the scene of a crime or an accident, as well as many other illustrations >drawn by hand or computer. Like everyone else, judges know that >photographs can be altered, and for that reason they are never admitted >on their own, but only after a person testifies, under oath, that the >photo is an accurate depiction of what it purports to show, I asked my lawyer about this and he pretty much confirmed the above (this applies to U.S. law only, obviously): The photo, digital or traditional, isn't really worth anything as evidence in and of itself; what's important is the testimony of witnesses who swear under oath that the image is an accurate depiction of whatever it's intended to show. Subsequently, either traditional or digital photographs are acceptable. I didn't ask about drawings but what you describe makes sense. >Mishka wrote: > >> photographs are accepted in courts as evidence. >> paintings are not. >> have no idea about digital. >> this sorts it out, doesn't it? -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: media philosophy debate
also: put on the 16mm fisheye lens and you'll se 180deg angle of view -- *more* than you actually can ever see with your eyes (and, there are 360deg setups too -- so weird... :) mishka > From: Rfsindg > Subject: Re: media philosophy debate > Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 03:55:59 -0700 > > > > Mike, > > Think about the opposite. Have you ever gone somewhere with someone > and then shown them the pictures upon your return, only to have them > say, "Where was that?" "I never saw that!" > > The camera sharpens my vision and experiences in the world. It > rarely diminishes them. > > Regards, Bob S. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << Another problem I have is that the camera intrudes on my own > reality.I was therefore able to > see the event, in the perspective of the landscape, in its > entirety. Instead of a portion of it through the eyepiece. My > benefit, potential viewers of my photograph's loss. If I had > any "artistic" skills, I could reproduce the event as a > painting. Now it is gone, except in my mind - which is, by the > way, full of these events. > > Anyone else find this paradoxical? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
A good opportunity (what I've been doing lately)
Hi all, I just want to share my great satisfaction... As Juan Bhuler I've been lurking for some time now but the reason was I'd been working on a very interesting project (and a paid assignment). A friend of mine had to provide the organization for an event here in Roma called "Pelagos, 4th festival of the Submarine Image" and closely related to the "Festival of the Submarine Image" in Antibes, France. He asked me to provide images of the coastal part of the province of Roma. I've been wandering around the zone for a few weeks and shot a whole reel of Fuji Provia 100F (what a nice film). Besides I selected about a hundred of shots from my archive. In the end 42 images were selected and 35 of them got digitally printed on 70x100 cm. (about 32x40") boards which covered the entire inside wall of the Province stand, about 2x6 mt. (2,2x10 yds.). Of course my name was there and I was really pleased to see they were appreciated by both the visitors and by the competent people (photographers and tv/cinema people) visiting and competing or judging the photo/video contests being held. I also got compliments from Mr. Daniel Mercier, founder and president of the Antibes Festival! Moreover the organization is also negotiating their presence at the 29th edition of the French Festival and they want me to provide them the images for a continuous slide show they're planing to have in their stand to promote the roman coastal region. As a bonus the shots were filmed for an italian pay TV travel channel and will be broadcasted soon. All in all a very tiring and demanding job but it got me a big satisfaction and I'm more and more thinking about "going pro"...who knows. As for Pentax content I've been shooting with the Z1-p and about all the lenses I have but mainly the 100/2.8 FA, 50/1.7 A, 28/2.8 A, 24/2,8 K, the newly acquired Tokina 100-300/4 formerly belonging to Mark Cassino and the Tokina 28-105 AF. Polarizers were used rather extensively. Tripod and monopod, both Manfrotto, were also important. A little flash was threw in now and then. The images were printed at 300 dpi up to about 40x60 cm. (16x20") and are all quite sharp. I plan to put up a separate gallery for these shots on my site ASAP. Thanks for reading. Ciao, Flavio - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Re (5a): Photo of Jet Breaking the Sound Barrier
Yes. All too true, Bob. Another way to put it could be: If lying is the objective, then all media can be made to "bear false witness". Len --- -Original Message- From: Bob Walkden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 7:00 PM To: Robert Soames Wetmore Subject: Re: Re (5a): Photo of Jet Breaking the Sound Barrier My claim is that this view is incorrect and indeed naive, and that the medium, whether it's digital photography, wet photography, writing, painting, sculpture or whatever, is irrelevant to the trustworthiness of the representation. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Hey, Albano! was: June PUG picks
Frank wrote: I'm really saddened to hear about what's been happening in your country, even moreso when I hear how it's affecting you personally with your photography. // Thanks Frank. Yes, it sucks but I suppose it has to get better sometime in the future. All that, then England ties you in the World Cup - on a phantom trip that lead to Beckham's penalty shot (the guy was never touched before he went down as far as I could see). // Yes, he never touched him. And then Spice boy, who was a phantom all the match, appears to kick (horribly) the penalty and f... us. In the second half, all of them stay in their area, and we can't make a simple gol. Bitter friday in a good time. I hope things turn around for you and your countrymen (and women). / Thanks again regards Albano - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: RE: advice needed: 5N or S ?
Lens cap was on,shutter not cocked,quess not LOL Dave Begin Original Message From: "Rob Brigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3 Ask Dave brooks - he dropped his Pentax from a helicopter the Pacific ocean! Does this count as an underwater experience? > -Original Message- > From: ROBERTO FRANCHINI [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 11 June 2002 10:12 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: advice needed: 5N or S ? > > > Hi all, > > I really hope you can help me with some questions about > Pentax equipment > (what else ;-)): > > > 1) Does anyone know which SLR between mz-5n and mz-s has the highest > eyepoint (and bigger) viewfinder ? > > 2) Does anyone know if is it possible to build a simple > adapter to use a TTL > N > flash with a Pentax camera in TTL mode? > > > I am asking ask this not because I don't like Pentax flashes > but because I > would like > to bring my beloved Pentax lenses underwater (well...in a > housing...;-)) > and it seems that all u/w flashes are produced with N dedication. > This brings me to the 3rd question: > > 3) Has anybody some experience to share about u/w photograpy > with Pentax > SLR camera ? > > > > Any suggestion is GREATLY appreciated ! > Thanks in advance > > Roberto > > _ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: (2): film in the fridge?
>From what I hear, you can freeze film to make it last even longer - so your temps should be fine. I think the main thin is not to go over 15C or whatever it says on the film. > -Original Message- > From: David Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 11 June 2002 13:18 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: (2): film in the fridge? > > > I quess nows the time to ask my question,although > Shel may have answered it with his freezer comment. > I measured the temp in my home fridge and its about > +5 to 6 C(+48 Far).Is that to cold or is it ok. > The two places i buy my Portra, Provia etc seem > to have their store fridge around + 55 Far(+12 C) > BTW I let the film climatize at least 3-4 hours,or > overnight if i can plan ahead. > > Dave > > Begin Original Message > > From: "Bob Rapp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:06:06 +1000 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: film in the fridge? > > > From: "Maris V. Lidaka Sr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: film in the fridge? > > > > P.S. I would put it in a plastic bag or freezer bag first. > > > > Maris > > > LABEL BAG : KIDS!! > DO NOT DEFROST IN MICROWAVE > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > End Original Message > > > > > Pentax User > Stouffville Ontario Canada > http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ > http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses > Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: (2): film in the fridge?
I quess nows the time to ask my question,although Shel may have answered it with his freezer comment. I measured the temp in my home fridge and its about +5 to 6 C(+48 Far).Is that to cold or is it ok. The two places i buy my Portra, Provia etc seem to have their store fridge around + 55 Far(+12 C) BTW I let the film climatize at least 3-4 hours,or overnight if i can plan ahead. Dave Begin Original Message From: "Bob Rapp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:06:06 +1000 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: film in the fridge? From: "Maris V. Lidaka Sr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: film in the fridge? > P.S. I would put it in a plastic bag or freezer bag first. > > Maris > LABEL BAG : KIDS!! DO NOT DEFROST IN MICROWAVE - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Non MLU 6x7
A question for the Brotherhood: I received a couple of fixer-upper come "parts" 6x7's in the mail today, and while they are both definietly non MLU, there are a number of detail differences between them. One is serial # 40042xx while the other is 40348xx, so presumably they are 30600 units apart. The most obvious differences are the film reel locks on the bottom plate, which are a the same as the battery case on the newee model, but on the older one are simply moved by thumb pressure on a textured surface which looks kind of like a microprism grid. The bottom plate is different on both to accomodat the change. The battery covers are different too (more satin chrome on one) and the wind lever is also different. Some of the lettering is pale blue on one and pale green on the other and the numbering on the shutter speed dial is thicker on one than on the other. Does anyone know when these sort of changes were made? Is this a case of a mark 1 and mark 2 version of the non MLU 6x7, or were there a number of variations in its life? Just wondering... Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cost of Black and White Film Processing?
Hi Harald. Just looking at an old bill from May. Process 2 rolls of 36 $10.00 Proofs,4x6 times 72 $46.80 Add taxes $65.32 Total Above are in Canadian funds Us would be about $40.00 Dave Begin Original Message From: "harald_nancy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 18:22:08 -0700 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Cost of Black and White Film Processing? Just got back from a trip, and took a few rolls of black and white Tri-X. First time I've used black and white in many years. The sticker shock, Kits Camera wants $16.00 to develop and print a 36 exposure b&w roll. Is that a normal price? Last time I used black and white, it was less expensive than color. Does anyone know a more cost effective lab for b&w film processing? I'm not planning to develop and print my own b&w. Thanks for any info. Harald - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Converter for Tokina AT-X 100-300/4?
Hi all, I'm back on the list after some time, although I have been checking the mail archive frequently - just to stay tuned! Now, I have a question. I'm looking for a good 1.4 converter to my old MF Tokina AT-X 100-300/4 zoom. Which high-quality teleconverter gives good results with that lens? I have tried with the Pentax AF 1.7, and I didn't like the results, at least not stopped down to 5.6. Thanks in advance, Erik - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: media philosophy debate
Mike, Think about the opposite. Have you ever gone somewhere with someone and then shown them the pictures upon your return, only to have them say, "Where was that?" "I never saw that!" The camera sharpens my vision and experiences in the world. It rarely diminishes them. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Another problem I have is that the camera intrudes on my own reality.I was therefore able to see the event, in the perspective of the landscape, in its entirety. Instead of a portion of it through the eyepiece. My benefit, potential viewers of my photograph's loss. If I had any "artistic" skills, I could reproduce the event as a painting. Now it is gone, except in my mind - which is, by the way, full of these events. Anyone else find this paradoxical? >> - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 67 & batteries in LOOONG exposures
The external battery pack takes the same battery. It plugs and latches in and the original cover/holder are inserted into a socket at the end of the cord. Bob - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > If I remember correctly there is an external battery pack you can get for > the 67, for keeping the batteries warm in your pocket so they last longer. > I'm not sure if it takes AA or the standard battery but it'd be easy to > just cut the cable and put a 4xAA holder in its place. > > Cheers, > > - Dave (going home on Friday!) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: media philosophy debate
Sorry, but I couldn't see where the paradox is... is it that reality is only at full when you are not looking at it through the viewfinder, but you are supposed to be trying to portray it thus? Don't forget that your own views of reality are mediated by your own personal experiences, culture, society, time... This is quite clear in your example of the German photographer during nazism. Fernando - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 67 & batteries in LOOONG exposures
Frantisek Vlcek wrote: > a friend who has a 67 goes to mountains and he plans to do some > long bulb exposures in the night (that's usually around 30minutes > or more). He needs to know how much batt. to take (as they are also > somewhat expensive) If I remember correctly there is an external battery pack you can get for the 67, for keeping the batteries warm in your pocket so they last longer. I'm not sure if it takes AA or the standard battery but it'd be easy to just cut the cable and put a 4xAA holder in its place. Cheers, - Dave (going home on Friday!) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: film in the fridge?
I put all my film in the fridge. I figure it's a way of being certain it won't be subjected to excessive temperature. When removing it, I try to let it sit for an hour before opening the can or wrapper. However, I have used rolls almost immediately, even in warm humid weather, with no apparent effect. I think the film warms to air temperature rather quickly and any condensation dissipates rapidly. Of course it's better to wait. Paul CBWaters wrote: > > After taking advantage of a generous shipping-cost split from a list member, > I have several rolls of Kodak B&W film sitting in my dining room. It > regularly gets up to about 80F in my house (stupid "builder-grade" AC > components). I don't expect to use all this film for at least three months. > It's all fresh from B&H though it's the import version of each type. So > should I put it in the fridge or what? What do you do to avoid condensation > when removing the film from the chilly confines? > > Thanks list, > > Cory Waters > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 67 & batteries in LOOONG exposures
- Original Message - From: Frantisek Vlcek Subject: 67 & batteries in LOOONG exposures > Hi, >a friend who has a 67 goes to mountains and he plans to do some >long bulb exposures in the night (that's usually around 30minutes >or more). He needs to know how much batt. to take (as they are also >somewhat expensive) > >Anybody has tried how much total time open can you get >out of the batteries? The owners manual says you will get approximately 6 hours of timed exposure out of a fresh silver oxide battery. > >Also, can you stack up regular 44 type batteries (4 of them), or >two 3v Lithium batteries (the 2/3DLN type I think) which are the >height of 2x44 ? Yes to both. If you dissasemble a PX28 silver oxide battery, you will discover 4 s76 batteries inside. If you take apart a PX28 lithium, you will find 2 DL1/3n batteries inside. > >What is the best type for it - silver oxide or lithium? I guess >Lithium, as they have the best temperature range effectivity. Crap shoot, as the silver battery packs more effective power, but it loses it faster in the cold. If the person has sure hands, he could pop the battery out and warm it before using it. How cold is he expecting to see? William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: advice needed: 5N or S ?
1 I dont think there is much in it, although the S is said to be clearer, sharper and better shooting into the light. 2 I dont think so. 3 Ask Dave brooks - he dropped his Pentax from a helicopter the Pacific ocean! Does this count as an underwater experience? > -Original Message- > From: ROBERTO FRANCHINI [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 11 June 2002 10:12 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: advice needed: 5N or S ? > > > Hi all, > > I really hope you can help me with some questions about > Pentax equipment > (what else ;-)): > > > 1) Does anyone know which SLR between mz-5n and mz-s has the highest > eyepoint (and bigger) viewfinder ? > > 2) Does anyone know if is it possible to build a simple > adapter to use a TTL > N >flash with a Pentax camera in TTL mode? > > > I am asking ask this not because I don't like Pentax flashes > but because I > would like > to bring my beloved Pentax lenses underwater (well...in a > housing...;-)) > and it seems that all u/w flashes are produced with N dedication. > This brings me to the 3rd question: > > 3) Has anybody some experience to share about u/w photograpy > with Pentax > SLR camera ? > > > > Any suggestion is GREATLY appreciated ! > Thanks in advance > > Roberto > > _ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: advice needed: 5N or S ?
Ciao Roberto, I believe the site http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/pentaxlx/index.htm Has info about underwated pentax use (and is a good site for the LX) Hope it helps Alla prossima Michele Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
