Re: Web Site Take Two

2004-04-22 Thread Brian Walters
G'day again Shaun

Actually what I was getting at was not moving the external links to a separate
page but including a window target in the HTML code so that the external link
opens in a new, separate window rather than replacing your page.

Most HTML editors should be able to do this but, in any case, you can edit the
code manually.  For example, in the paragraph under Wittenoom Gorge on your
home page there is a link to Mesothelioma Web.  The code for the link is:

a href=http://www.mesotheliomaweb.org/mesothelioma.htm;strongmesothelioma.
/strong/a

When someone clicks on this link the Mesothelioma Web site replaces your page and
the visitor might not return.  However, the following code would open
Mesothelioma Web in a new window and leave your page active.

a href=http://www.mesotheliomaweb.org/mesothelioma.htm;
target=window1strongmesothelioma. /strong/a  


Sorry if I'm telling you something you already know.


+

Brian Walters
Australian Plants Societies
http://farrer.csu.edu.au/ASGAP/


On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 15:12 , 'Dr. Shaun Canning' [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

Thanks for the positive comments Brian. Much appreciated. I will indeed
move the links to a separate page. In fact, I might get rid of that stuff
altogether. Undecided as yet.

Thanks again...

Cheers

Shaun


Brian Walters said:
 Shaun

 Really impressive site - I looked mainly at the flower shots as that's my
 interest.

 I liked the clarity in the thumnbnails and the sharpness of the scans
 generally.
  Were all of these taken with the *istD or have some of them been scanned
 from
 slides and then worked over in software?

 I've got quite a lot of wildflower shots on slides but I've found it
 difficult to
 get decent scans.  My transparency adaptor attached to the Epson 1650
 Photo
 scanner gives results which are acceptable for the web but not much else
 and I've
 found the quality of Kodak Photo CD scans ranges from excellent to abysmal
 with
 most being just OK.



 Back to your website - I agree with earlier comments about the size of the
 images
 and I still think they are a bit large.  Is there a reason why they need
 to be
 that large?   As a viewer of the site, I would prefer if they could fit on
 the
 screen without scrolling.

 The only other thing I can think of is the way you reference your external
 links.
  At present, anyone who clicks on the mesothelioma link, for example,
 gets
 taken away from your site and may not return.  It might be worth
 targeting the
 external links to a separate window so that your site stays active.

 Cheers

 Brian



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Re: Web Site Take Two

2004-04-22 Thread Dr. Shaun Canning
Thanks Brian, that's what I'll do!

P.S. I see you work for CSU? That's my old stomping ground (Albury)

Cheers

Shaun

Brian Walters said:
 G'day again Shaun

 Actually what I was getting at was not moving the external links to a
 separate
 page but including a window target in the HTML code so that the external
 link
 opens in a new, separate window rather than replacing your page.

 Most HTML editors should be able to do this but, in any case, you can edit
 the
 code manually.  For example, in the paragraph under Wittenoom Gorge on
 your
 home page there is a link to Mesothelioma Web.  The code for the link is:

 a
 href=http://www.mesotheliomaweb.org/mesothelioma.htm;strongmesothelioma.
 /strong/a

 When someone clicks on this link the Mesothelioma Web site replaces your
 page and
 the visitor might not return.  However, the following code would open
 Mesothelioma Web in a new window and leave your page active.

 a href=http://www.mesotheliomaweb.org/mesothelioma.htm;
 target=window1strongmesothelioma. /strong/a


 Sorry if I'm telling you something you already know.


 +

 Brian Walters
 Australian Plants Societies
 http://farrer.csu.edu.au/ASGAP/


 On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 15:12 , 'Dr. Shaun Canning'
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

Thanks for the positive comments Brian. Much appreciated. I will indeed
move the links to a separate page. In fact, I might get rid of that stuff
altogether. Undecided as yet.

Thanks again...

Cheers

Shaun


Brian Walters said:
 Shaun

 Really impressive site - I looked mainly at the flower shots as that's
 my
 interest.

 I liked the clarity in the thumnbnails and the sharpness of the scans
 generally.
  Were all of these taken with the *istD or have some of them been
 scanned
 from
 slides and then worked over in software?

 I've got quite a lot of wildflower shots on slides but I've found it
 difficult to
 get decent scans.  My transparency adaptor attached to the Epson 1650
 Photo
 scanner gives results which are acceptable for the web but not much
 else
 and I've
 found the quality of Kodak Photo CD scans ranges from excellent to
 abysmal
 with
 most being just OK.



 Back to your website - I agree with earlier comments about the size of
 the
 images
 and I still think they are a bit large.  Is there a reason why they
 need
 to be
 that large?   As a viewer of the site, I would prefer if they could fit
 on
 the
 screen without scrolling.

 The only other thing I can think of is the way you reference your
 external
 links.
  At present, anyone who clicks on the mesothelioma link, for example,
 gets
 taken away from your site and may not return.  It might be worth
 targeting the
 external links to a separate window so that your site stays active.

 Cheers

 Brian



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Re: DSLR slide duplicator

2004-04-22 Thread Anthony Farr
- Original Message - 
From: Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sorry - I followed the link and all I found was a typical
 1:1 slide duplicator. No indication that they had addressed
 the DSLR issues. I may not have found the right spot in the
 web site...

 Stan


Stan,

You need to read the whole text, it's not obvious from the headings and
captions, except for the first word of the title, Digital Zoom Slide
Duplicator T2 for SLRs.

About halfway down the page, just before the heading Specifications is the
following statement:

specifically to use with digital reflex cameras this slide duplicator was
designed to consider the focal length extension factor of 1.6x compared to
24x36mm. This results in format-filling duplicates.

Seems pretty clear to me that it's meant for APS and similar format DSLRs.

BTW I was mistaken to say it was available now, in the caption of the photo
it says, available approx. 05/04.  That's fairly soon.

To be certain that you found the correct item, this is the pathway from
Soligor's homepage to the item:

Go to www.soligor.com
click on Product Guide (on upper left)
click on Digital / Photo / Optics / Personal Electronics (on illustration)
click on Optical Accessories for DIGICAMS (in list)
click on Slide Duplicator for DIGICAMS (in list)
click on Digital Zoom Slide Duplicator T2 for SLRs (in list)
THIS IS IT!

regards,
Anthony Farr




Re: Web Site Take Two

2004-04-22 Thread Brian Walters
Shaun

Appearances can be deceptive.

CSU (Wagga campus) kindly agreed to host the ASGAP website but I don't work
there.  They've given use access to their server which is really great and has
allowed up to create a much larger web site than would have been possible otherwise.


Cheers

Brian


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Brian Walters
Australian Plants Societies
http://farrer.csu.edu.au/ASGAP/

On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:12 , 'Dr. Shaun Canning' [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

Thanks Brian, that's what I'll do!

P.S. I see you work for CSU? That's my old stomping ground (Albury)

Cheers

Shaun



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Re: Update 2: Paw in progress:Pictures from old work jobs.

2004-04-22 Thread Boros Attila
Hello brooksdj,

Wednesday, April 21, 2004, 3:30:26 PM, you wrote:


bcin 
bcin http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=244208

bcin  Hi gang.

bcin  I have added 10-11 pictures to day,from main land
bcin British Columbia,gliders,humming birds,
bcin and oh, an 
bcin actual work shotvbgThis job was to establish first
bcin order elevations through out the
bcin Yellow Head Hwy 
bcin area from Jasper to Prince George.

Those humming birds photos are great! I like those little blurred
wings, no. 1 is a very pleasing composition against a blue sky framed
by clouds.

Also liked the beachcomber, but would like to see a little more detail
in his beard.

Attila




Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread Bob W
Hi,

 I'm doing some research on the topic of street photography and the question has 
 several parts. The first,
 to keep it on topic, is what Pentax camera and lens(es) make the best street 
 shooting combo
 and why? Pop Photo just did and article on street photography and mentioned the 
 K1000 and a 50mm f2, if
 I remember correctly, as a good option if you can't run out and buy a Leica M7.

The MX with a small lens such as the M35/2, M40/2.8 or M50/1.4 is very
good because it's small, unobtrusive and very quick to use.

 The second part would be who is your favorite street shooter, past or present, and 
 why?

If forced to make a decision I would probably choose Cartier-Bresson.
Although he didn't invent the field he brought it to a state of almost
perfection. He went beyond the fascination with the ordinary,
which I think was a hallmark of his predecessors and occasionally
looked like twee 'genre' painting, and brought that type of
photography into the mainstream of 20th century art by revealing a
world beyond the ordinary. He very clearly continues the traditions of
late 19th century art and thought, but, like the other main figures in
the art of the pre-war years, radically changed that tradition and changed
completely and forever the way we see the world. He is the only photographer
who has ever been an artist of the first rank.

I apologise of this all sounds very pretentious

 I guess a third part would be, do you have a favorite street photo web site or email 
 list?

www.magnumphotos.com

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob



Re: OT: Best restaurants in the world - official!

2004-04-22 Thread Bob W
Hi,

 Also remember that popularity often works
 against a restaurant,  the hoi polloi will abandon a former favourite if
 they think it's getting popular with the riff-raff.

the hoi polloi (Greek: 'the many') and the riff-raff are the very same
people! Perhaps you're thinking of the hoity-toity.

I love this kind of misunderstanding. It reminds me of a friend of
mine who for the first 40 years of his life was convinced that it's a
doggie-dog world.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob



Re: Copyright on photos?

2004-04-22 Thread dagt
 Fra: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
... 
 For instance, say you took a photo a young girl riding a pony in front of a 
 distinctive barn. To use that photo commercially you would need a model release 
 from from the girl, and her parents. You would need a property release from the 
 owner of the pony. And another from the owner of the barn. Then you have a 
 sellable photo. The publisher then needs a release from you to publish the 
 photo. Sometimes the chain of releases is so difficult to chase down the photo 
 has no commercial value at all.
 


 That is international copyright law. There may well be other local laws that 
 apply. Anyone who is not pretty knowledgeable about how the laws work in their 
 area (country, state, county, local) really ought to talk to an attorney who 
 specializes in intellectual property.


I don't agree with you there.  There is a considerable effort made in Europe to 
harmonize the the national copyright laws and there are some things that differ from 
your law.

There are two things you can't publish without permission, and that is persons and 
other, copyrighted material.  There is an exception made for architecture.  So you can 
sell a photo of another persons property, at least as long as you did not have to 
break an entrance to get there (in which case you have broken another law).

So you can sell an image of a general crowd of people in front of a building (without 
any private persons standing out in the image), you can sell the picture of the 
neighbours dog (except if he made an effort in styling it), but you can not sell a 
photo of a sculpture (unless you have made a substantial effort to make the photo more 
than just a photograph of the sculpture).

There are still some differences between the European countries, but the tendency is 
toward the right of the holder of the copyright.

One important thing is that you cannot sell the copyright, only the right to control 
its use.

DagT



Re: Disgusting things that Australians eat

2004-04-22 Thread Bob W
Hi,

Thursday, April 22, 2004, 4:25:53 AM, shaun wrote:

 As an archaeologist in Australia I travel about a bit in Aboriginal
 communities, and from time to time have eaten some of the most disgusting
 sounding things imaginable.

 I have eaten Witchety Grubs (big thick grubs about the size of a mans
 thumb - taste like almonds though), bats, kangaroo intestine, goanna, emu,
 numerous other grubs and ants, bush turkeys, snake, numerous types of
 native fruits etc etc...

 Most of it was great...

what a hero! You must make a contribution to the next edition of
Schott's Food and Drink Miscellany, which is a popular book about,
well, food and drink.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0747566542/026-7267103-3186036

I can't remember the details, but there is one section which tells you
what things other things taste like, e.g. wichety grubs taste like
almonds, cyanide tastes like almonds, almonds taste like something
else, which in turn tastes like grasshoppers, etc. I've only glanced
at it really, but I got the impression that if you resolve all the
crossing lines and exclude the middle, everything tastes like chicken.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob



Re[2]: fast film not a solution?

2004-04-22 Thread Boros Attila
AC To be honest, with 6x8 prints, I can hardly notice any difference... It
AC may be noticeable if you go up to 8x10, but I never tried...
AC I don't overexpose 400 film usually, with ME-S and LX, the correct
AC setting gives excellent exposures.

I use Fuji Superia X-TRA 400. With 6x8 prints, I can't see any
difference. At 8x10 I have to look hard to notice, but I'm not sure
that it is caused by the film or by my cheap consumer zoom. I ought to
buy a better lens some day...

Attila






Re: Copyright on photos?

2004-04-22 Thread Bob W
Hi,

 There are two things you can't publish without permission, and that is persons and 
 other, copyrighted
 material.  There is an exception made for architecture.  So you can sell a photo of 
 another
 persons property, at least as long as you did not have to break an entrance to get 
 there (in which case
 you have broken another law).

 So you can sell an image of a general crowd of people in front of a building 
 (without any private persons
 standing out in the image), you can sell the picture of the neighbours dog (except 
 if he
 made an effort in styling it), but you can not sell a photo of a sculpture (unless 
 you have made a
 substantial effort to make the photo more than just a photograph of the sculpture).

this is oversimplified. Although there are serious problems in France,
I think that in most of the rest of Europe you do not need their permission
to publish a photo of someone. If you did then there would be no
paparazzi, and all other photojournalism would come to an abrupt end.

In Britain I believe you can even use photographs of people in adverts
without their permission if you have made reasonable efforts to get it,
but haven't been able to trace them. This was a source of great argument
in Magnum a few years ago when some very unflattering photos by Martin
Parr were used without permission in adverts with a very unpleasant
copy line.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob



Re: TTL ringlight flash

2004-04-22 Thread Frits Wüthrich
There are quite a few ringflashes at BH, costing to over $1200.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?ci=1sb=pspn=1sq=descInitialSearch=yesO=SearchBarA=searchQ=*shs=ring+flashimage.x=9image.y=9

 There are only two listed on the BH website - one is a Phoenix,
 and the other a Vivitar.  They are very CHEAP (usd$99 and $89
 respectively), and I am a bit
 weary about buying one that is so cheap.

-- 
Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: OT: Best restaurants in the world - official!

2004-04-22 Thread Anthony Farr
That's the word!  Thanks for putting that right, Bob.
Mrs Malaprop ~would~ be proud of me :-)

regards,
Anthony Farr

- Original Message - 
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Hi,

  Also remember that popularity often works
  against a restaurant,  the hoi polloi will abandon a former favourite if
  they think it's getting popular with the riff-raff.

 the hoi polloi (Greek: 'the many') and the riff-raff are the very same
 people! Perhaps you're thinking of the hoity-toity.

 I love this kind of misunderstanding. It reminds me of a friend of
 mine who for the first 40 years of his life was convinced that it's a
 doggie-dog world.

 -- 
 Cheers,
  Bob






Re: Copyright on photos?

2004-04-22 Thread dagt
 Fra: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Hi,
 
  There are two things you can't publish without permission, and that is persons and 
  other, copyrighted
  material.  There is an exception made for architecture.  So you can sell a photo 
  of another
  persons property, at least as long as you did not have to break an entrance to get 
  there (in which case
  you have broken another law).
 
  So you can sell an image of a general crowd of people in front of a building 
  (without any private persons
  standing out in the image), you can sell the picture of the neighbours dog (except 
  if he
  made an effort in styling it), but you can not sell a photo of a sculpture (unless 
  you have made a
  substantial effort to make the photo more than just a photograph of the sculpture).
 
 this is oversimplified. Although there are serious problems in France,
 I think that in most of the rest of Europe you do not need their permission
 to publish a photo of someone. If you did then there would be no
 paparazzi, and all other photojournalism would come to an abrupt end.

Well, yes, there are LOTS of details here :-)

You do not need a written permission (I believe the Germans are/were more strict), but 
the person must at least have accepted that you were there and took some photographs. 
To be safe you should always ask.  If you use it for advertising you have to ask for 
persmission. If you only use the image too promote your own photography, like in an 
exhibition, the person usually can't say no. 

Public persons, like the subjects of the paparazzi, have less rights than private 
persons.  It is part of the job.
 
 In Britain I believe you can even use photographs of people in adverts
 without their permission if you have made reasonable efforts to get it,
 but haven't been able to trace them. This was a source of great argument
 in Magnum a few years ago when some very unflattering photos by Martin
 Parr were used without permission in adverts with a very unpleasant
 copy line.

In Norway you usually can't do that.  We even had a case where IKEA used a person who 
looked like the prime minister.  I think they managed to stop it.

DagT



Re: OT - Can files be retrieved from a damaged CD?

2004-04-22 Thread Rob Studdert
On 22 Apr 2004 at 8:16, Mark Cassino wrote:

 There's a program called ISOBuster that will doggedley pull everything 
 possible off the CD. I had a CD that was missing a chunk of the silver 
 coating, and this program was able to pull almost all of the data off of 
 it. It will also retrieve partial files when possible. 
 http://www.smart-projects.net/isobuster/ (or www.isobuster.com - which will
 redirect to the first page.)  The program was freeware when I used it a year or
 so ago, don't know if it still is.

That's a handy little utility, many thanks for the pointer.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: Character of M135/3.5

2004-04-22 Thread Peter J. Alling
I haven't exactly used the M 3.5 but I was happy with the K 3.5 until I 
picked up a K 2.3.  Even
then it didn't seem too horribly slow especially by modern standards.  
Based on what I've read it
should be a more than acceptable optic.

Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

I picked one up yesterday @ Midwest.
It was interesting to look at the cast of the coatings.
It didn't have that more common rich amber case of the 50mm.
It was more of a mix of amber/blue/purple, more like the
43/1.9 or F50/1.7 (et. al.)
Who out there is happy with this lens?
I know it's a bit slow, but the price was right.
Collin






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Re: First (and hopefully not last) Post and using both flash connectors

2004-04-22 Thread ernreed2
John posted, regarding  http://aussieslang.com
 It's certainly entertaining, though I don't think the author can have been 
 to Britain.  Half his words/phrases are found in Britain, and most, like 
 arse are definitely not imports from Australia.  Arse in fact is Saxon, 
 and came to Britain a very, very long time ago.

A LOT of them are found far from both Britain  Australia, not just in Britain 
as you may not have meant to imply. 

ERN



Re: Character of M135/3.5

2004-04-22 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, Peter J. Alling wrote:

 I haven't exactly used the M 3.5 but I was happy with the K 3.5 until I

I too have the K135/3.5, but it's a different lens (and I like it very
much too, though I would like to try a K2.5-not takumar-to see if I
can hand-hold it for available light).

The only thing I can contribute is that the M135/3.5 is covered
reasonably well in Stan's site.

Regards,
Kostas



Re: Disgusting things that Australians eat

2004-04-22 Thread mapson

It still exists, on North Terrace, outside the Railway station most days.
Not there 24hrs, but certainly regularly.
Love, Light and Peace,
- Peter Loveday
Director of Development, eyeon Software
That's the one I've been thinking of. I thought that it vanished. Must have 
been wrong (not the first or last time). It looks like we have to go on a 
nocturnal expedition to the City ;-)



   (*)o(*) 
Robert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



Re: Disgusting things that people eat

2004-04-22 Thread mapson

Yes, he is 6 years old, and yes, he got sent to his room for being cheeky,
but I guess this just goes to show you how much of a role Vegemite plays in
Australian households! lol.
Long live Vegemite, hail the king! lol...

tan.


On the other hand it is a little sad when young people develop tunnel 
vision. I witnessed a girl (12-13yo) walking into a room, where tables 
could hardly support the food that was deposited on them, in 2 seconds 
scanning through at least 20 various dishes (hot, cold, sweet sour, meats, 
vegetarian, fish you name it - it was there)that were on offer and with 
capricious tone in her voice turning to the hosts and asking do you have 
any Vegemite here?

   (*)o(*) 
Robert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



Re: Character of M135/3.5

2004-04-22 Thread William Johnson
I'm very happy with mine.  I also have the K135/2.5, and they seem pretty
even in image quality, so the determining factors for which one gets used
are speed/size/weight considerations. It's also nice that it takes a common
(to Pentax) 49mm filter.  Handy when matched up with an M28/3.5, M50/1.4,
and an M85/2.

William in Utah
- Original Message - 
From: Collin Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 7:04 AM
Subject: Character of M135/3.5


 I picked one up yesterday @ Midwest.
 It was interesting to look at the cast of the coatings.
 It didn't have that more common rich amber case of the 50mm.
 It was more of a mix of amber/blue/purple, more like the
 43/1.9 or F50/1.7 (et. al.)

 Who out there is happy with this lens?
 I know it's a bit slow, but the price was right.

 Collin






 
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Re: Lost In the Woods

2004-04-22 Thread Ryan Lee
Wonderful account, Mark.. Glad to see you figured it out eventually- though
you should know that we were priming Jostein to be the replacement snowflake
photographer!  I'm just wondering, with the 6x7 gear and the heavyweight
tripod, how you reached the hmm.. I think I'll take the SWAMP TRAIL..
decision!

Cheers,
Ryan


- Original Message - 
From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 11:49 PM
Subject: Lost In the Woods


 Yesterday I went out to a fairly small 325 acre nature preserve, to shoot
 some scenics with wildflowers.  About a mile into the woods, furthest
point
 in, I consulted an old map that was posted and decided to take the Swamp
 Trail.  About a half hour later the trail dwindled down to next to
 nothing, and ended in a dry stream bed.  I took what I thought was the
 continuance of the trail only to find that it was just a little deer path
 that petered out a few hundred yards into thick swampy woods.  Back at the
 dried stream bed, I was unable to relocate the original trail - which I
 later discovered was probably also just a little deer trail that I had
 stumbled onto.

 So, after about 15 minutes I realized I was hopelessly lost. After half an
 hour of wandering around searching for a trail - and almost getting stuck
 knee deep in the swamp muck - I finally found a really old marker sign for
 the trail. Unfortunately, there was absolutely no evidence of any trail
 near it, and I knew I was in trouble. (When I finally got out of the woods
 I discovered that the Swamp Trail no longer existed.  But the really old
 map / sign in the heart of the woods was never updated.)

 Fortunately, I did have a compass with me. I ultimately had to just slog
my
 way in a fixed direction through the woods by compass to get out. I knew
 that a river bordered the east side of the preserve and that the main
trail
 intersected the river, so I just headed due east for about half an hour
 until I hit the river, and then hiked along the bank till I hit the main
 trail.

 All told, it toke about 2 hours before I was on a trail I knew, and was a
 pretty disconcerting experience.  If I had not had the compass, I don't
 know if I ever would have gotten out - it was amazing (when using the
 compass) to see how poor my sense of direction really was - but it was a
 cloudy day, no sun or shadows for reference, and all those trees start to
 look alike after a while.

 So - I entered the woods at 9 a.m. and finally got back to my car at 3 PM,
 having carried my 6x7 gear and heavyweight tripod all the time.  One the
 plus side - I think I got some good shots!

 I know that Marnie raised the question about emergency gear a while
 back.  I have now resolved to always bring a compass (which I usually have
 done anyhow), to always bring a cell phone (mine was sitting in the car
 yesterday), always bring a flashlight (I realized yesterday that the
 compass would be pretty useless out in the dark)  and always bring a
pocket
 raincoat (it fortunately did not rain yesterday, but it looked like it was
 about to at any time.)

 A Snickers bar and bottle of water would of been handy as well

 - MCC
 -

 Mark Cassino Photography

 Kalamazoo, MI

 http://www.markcassino.com

 -







Re: Lost In the Woods

2004-04-22 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Mark!  Compass?  325 acres?  That's not very big.  (Only about 0.73 of a mile square.  
Conversely it's about 0.50 of a square mile.  A section, 1 mile by 1 mile, is 640 
acres.)

You must be from the city!
:)

Collin 





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Re: Disgusting things that Australians eat

2004-04-22 Thread Treena
Oh, that's just great. Now I'll have to hunt one down and try it ...

- Original Message - 
From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: Disgusting things that Australians eat


 We americans invent junk food. It takes you guys to make it insane though.
Now
 why not combine a couple of threads and deep fry some Moon Pies? GRIN.




Re: Disgusting things that Autralians eat

2004-04-22 Thread Treena
Having worked for the great red Coca-Cola god, I can tell you it does still
have some natural flavoring - just not enough to produce the effect for
which it is so famous. :)

- Original Message - 
From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: Disgusting things that Autralians eat


 DR PEPPER may have been prune juice, but it is 100% artificial nowadays,
as far
 as I know.



Re: OT - Can files be retrieved from a damaged CD?

2004-04-22 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/21/2004 8:54:27 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DVD media is much nicer in this 
regard as it has two hard polymer surfaces unlike CDs.


Rob Studdert
--
So, if one has the choice, backing up to DVDs is definitely better?

Any particular brand name of DVD media to recommend?

I am getting enough photos on my computer now where I have to start thinking 
about backup storage more seriously.

Marnie aka Doe   I do have two DVD drives. And can write +R or -R. TIA.



Re: Disgusting things that Autralians eat

2004-04-22 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/22/2004 7:58:57 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Having worked for the great red Coca-Cola god, I can tell you it does still
have some natural flavoring - just not enough to produce the effect for
which it is so famous. :)
--
You're kidding! It still has cocaine in it? Hard to believe. 

Marnie aka Doe ;-)



Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Malcom ...

Not to put too fine a point on it, the M7 is a recent Leica,
only a year or two (at most) on the market. 20+ years ago
you'd have been using an M4-series, or older.

One thing that makes a Leica (and other RF cameras) better
than an SLR for street photography (God, do I hate that term
and description!) is that you can see outside the frame
lines, which means you can see what's coming into the frame
and what's surrounding it, allowing for better composition
in fast changing environments.  There are other factors as
well, but I'll leave them be for now ... although, I will
say that all too often an SLR is too big or too noisy, or
both, for certain situations.

Personally, I like the MX quite a bit for those times when
an SLR is a good choice.  It's a nice compliment to the
Leica, especially with certain lenses, like the M50/1.4 or
the K35/2.5 or 28/3.5.  The FA* 43mm is a superb choice (in
fact, it's also made in a Leica thread mount  ahh!) and
I suspect the FA* 77mm would be fine as well.

shel

Malcolm Smith wrote:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I'm doing some research on the topic of street photography
  and the question has several parts. The first, to keep it on
  topic, is what Pentax camera and lens(es) make the best
  street shooting combo and why? 
 
 I'm sure the MX and 40mm pancake lens will get a mention, it's a great
 combination. The Leica M7 is a rangefinder (isn't it?) and as I haven't
 owned one for 20+ years, I can't remember why that would be better than an
 SLR.




Re: Lost In the Woods

2004-04-22 Thread Doug Brewer
It can be disconcerting. I carry both a compass and a flashlight in my bag, 
and have been known to stuff a Columbia jacket in there as well.

The most absolutely and irrevocably lost I have ever been, though, was in 
Granada, Spain. You wouldn't think so, it being all urban and everything, 
but oh my goodness I was lost. I had decided during the hot part of the day 
to go get a sketchbook and commit a few doodles to paper, and I had seen an 
art supply store not far from the hotel. The proprietors, of course, 
decided at the same time to shut down for the afternoon, and they pulled 
down the little gate, covering the store so I walked right past it. hmmm. I 
know it's right around here somewhere. Maybe down this street. No? Maybe 
this way.

I was supposed to meet my wife back at the hotel for a little siesta, 
change of clothes and then a ride to a reception, and as it got closer to 
time for me to meet her, the farther away I got and the more convinced I 
became that I would soon find myself in Portugal. The time came and went, 
with me no closer than I had been. I saw much, much more of Granada than I 
had intended to on that day.

And my wife, who is normally quite compassionate and worrisome, came back 
to the hotel, snoozed, changed clothes, and left my lost little ass behind.

At long last, tired and angry and sweaty, something occurred to me that 
should have done hours earlier. I hailed a cab. (um, yeah...duh)

Made it back to the hotel, ran upstairs and into my wife's loving ar--- 
hello? Anyone here? I know you were worried...hello?

Oh, well. Changed shirts and got another cab, somehow managing to locate in 
the dark recesses of my brain the name of the place where we were supposed 
to attend the reception,  (at the Alhambra, for you who are familiar), and 
surprised her by actually arriving where I was supposed to be.

I'm glad you made it out okay, Mark. But you gotta love the mind of the 
photographer. Well, let's see, it's getting late in the day. I have no 
food or water or the foggiest idea where I am. I think I'll take some 
pictures.

To drag this back in the neighborhood of being on-topic, this reminds me to 
recycle an old fave:

http://www.alphoto.com/poodles/index.html





At 09:49 AM 4/22/04, throwing caution to the wind, Mark Cassino wrote:

tale of being lost 



Re: annsan's photos hit the big screen - yippie!

2004-04-22 Thread Lon Williamson
Yup.  Ann is one of the best photographers on this list.

Mark Cassino wrote:
WOW! Congrats, Ann! Sounds excellent!



OT: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)

2004-04-22 Thread Eactivist
I am looking into storage for my DSLR, so I can off-load pictures from a 
flash card in the field, wipe the card, and start over. I am realizing that 
shooting with a DSLR I will be shooting tons more photos than before and need a way 
to increase my storage capacity. A bit of extra money will be coming my way 
shortly. However, not enough for me to want to get a laptop. 

So, so far this looks like a fairly good idea:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/BE6FY7/qid=1082646806/sr=1-2
/ref=sr_1_2_etk-electronics/002-9840715-2164845?v=glances=electronicsn=17228
2


I am wondering if anyone has used it or something similar. If another brand 
or another type of gadget, what? And what is your opinion of it?

Any input would be helpful.

TIA, Marnie aka Doe 



Re: ok, now I'm cool

2004-04-22 Thread Lon Williamson
Whither, when withered, do whitted wags whander?
Whut?
frank theriault wrote:
John,

Maybe I was being ironic, and I actually did mean wither.

Of course I wasn't, and I did mean whither.  I couldn't decide which 
way it was spelled, so I guessed.  I guessed wrong.

...snip



Re: OT - Can files be retrieved from a damaged CD?

2004-04-22 Thread Rob Studdert
On 22 Apr 2004 at 10:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So, if one has the choice, backing up to DVDs is definitely better?

Discounting the obvious capacity advantage I think yes at least from the 
perspective of speed and robustness.

 Any particular brand name of DVD media to recommend?

I've been using Sony and Imation 4x DVD-R media (compatible with more players) 
and I've burnt no coasters and had no verification problems in over 20 discs 
now. I've heard all the guff about buying Japanese made product but I've not 
heard anything but speculation as to the quality of media manufactured 
elsewhere. My Imation discs are made in Taiwan and they seem OK. Just like my 
Supermicro M/B and Matrox video card, the previous time I purchased they were 
made in the USA and Canada respectively the last pair I bought were both made 
in China, it's cheaper.

 I am getting enough photos on my computer now where I have to start thinking
 about backup storage more seriously.

Well that was what lead me there, it was pretty painful having to write three 
CDs to one 2GB memory card down-load :-(

 Marnie aka Doe   I do have two DVD drives. And can write +R or -R. TIA.

As I mentioned I'm writing -R media at 4x so a full 4.7GB disc can be written, 
closed and verified in about 30 minutes under Nero 5. What you have to ensure 
data integrity (ire a good burn) is that firstly the drive is properly 
ventilated and has an adequate ripple free power supply and secondly the system 
has adequate data band-width. I've got a RAID array in my server with can 
deliver 45MB/s sustained and the writer has an 8MB buffer so it's streams along 
quite nicely (even on my old Celeron 500 system).


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 Not to put too fine a point on it, the M7 is a recent Leica,
 only a year or two (at most) on the market. 20+ years ago
 you'd have been using an M4-series, or older.

What he meant is he hasn't used a rangefinder in 20+ years.

 One thing that makes a Leica (and other RF cameras) better
 than an SLR for street photography (God, do I hate that term
 and description!) is that you can see outside the frame
 lines, which means you can see what's coming into the frame
 and what's surrounding it, allowing for better composition
 in fast changing environments.

Can you explain this a bit more please? Why is aiming different?

The other thing I would add is that with a wideangle lens and assuming
the right light conditions, one can set the aperture to 8 or 11 and
forget about focusing, just think about the picture.

Kostas



Re: Lost In the Woods

2004-04-22 Thread Mark Cassino
Yeah, I know - not big at all.  The area is claimed to be one of the few 
patches of Michigan forest that was never logged - but the trees don;t look 
all that big. But even in a small area like that, it's easy to spend a lot 
of time wandering around if you don't have a compass for direction.

- MCC

At 10:46 AM 4/22/2004 -0400, you wrote:
Mark!  Compass?  325 acres?  That's not very big.  (Only about 0.73 of a 
mile square.  Conversely it's about 0.50 of a square mile.  A section, 1 
mile by 1 mile, is 640 acres.)

You must be from the city!
:)
Collin
-

Mark Cassino Photography

Kalamazoo, MI

http://www.markcassino.com

-




Re: Lost In the Woods

2004-04-22 Thread cbwaters
Mark,
I'm glad you were not lost to the wilderness for good.
I would have felt the need to move back to the Great Lakes and take-up the
lighthouse and nature mantle.
Shortly after expressing this, I would have felt the smack of my wife's hand
on the back of my head.
So it's good you got out.

Cory

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:49 AM
Subject: Lost In the Woods


 Yesterday I went out to a fairly small 325 acre nature preserve, to shoot
 some scenics with wildflowers.  About a mile into the woods, furthest
point
 in, I consulted an old map that was posted and decided to take the Swamp
 Trail.  About a half hour later the trail dwindled down to next to
 nothing, and ended in a dry stream bed.  I took what I thought was the
 continuance of the trail only to find that it was just a little deer path
 that petered out a few hundred yards into thick swampy woods.  Back at the
 dried stream bed, I was unable to relocate the original trail - which I
 later discovered was probably also just a little deer trail that I had
 stumbled onto.

 So, after about 15 minutes I realized I was hopelessly lost. After half an
 hour of wandering around searching for a trail - and almost getting stuck
 knee deep in the swamp muck - I finally found a really old marker sign for
 the trail. Unfortunately, there was absolutely no evidence of any trail
 near it, and I knew I was in trouble. (When I finally got out of the woods
 I discovered that the Swamp Trail no longer existed.  But the really old
 map / sign in the heart of the woods was never updated.)

 Fortunately, I did have a compass with me. I ultimately had to just slog
my
 way in a fixed direction through the woods by compass to get out. I knew
 that a river bordered the east side of the preserve and that the main
trail
 intersected the river, so I just headed due east for about half an hour
 until I hit the river, and then hiked along the bank till I hit the main
 trail.

 All told, it toke about 2 hours before I was on a trail I knew, and was a
 pretty disconcerting experience.  If I had not had the compass, I don't
 know if I ever would have gotten out - it was amazing (when using the
 compass) to see how poor my sense of direction really was - but it was a
 cloudy day, no sun or shadows for reference, and all those trees start to
 look alike after a while.

 So - I entered the woods at 9 a.m. and finally got back to my car at 3 PM,
 having carried my 6x7 gear and heavyweight tripod all the time.  One the
 plus side - I think I got some good shots!

 I know that Marnie raised the question about emergency gear a while
 back.  I have now resolved to always bring a compass (which I usually have
 done anyhow), to always bring a cell phone (mine was sitting in the car
 yesterday), always bring a flashlight (I realized yesterday that the
 compass would be pretty useless out in the dark)  and always bring a
pocket
 raincoat (it fortunately did not rain yesterday, but it looked like it was
 about to at any time.)

 A Snickers bar and bottle of water would of been handy as well

 - MCC
 -

 Mark Cassino Photography

 Kalamazoo, MI

 http://www.markcassino.com

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Re: Lost In the Woods

2004-04-22 Thread Keith Whaley
The real lesson was, he didn't panic...
He knew he was totally lost, and quite literally didn't know which way 
to turn.
Instead, he kept his wits about him, and thought his way out of an 
otherwise frightening situation, proceeding with a solution that would 
surely get him out and home, albeit with a little delay.

Well done, Mark.

keith whaley

Doug Brewer wrote:

It can be disconcerting. I carry both a compass and a flashlight in my 
bag, and have been known to stuff a Columbia jacket in there as well.

The most absolutely and irrevocably lost I have ever been, though, was 
in Granada, Spain. You wouldn't think so, it being all urban and 
everything, but oh my goodness I was lost. I had decided during the hot 
part of the day to go get a sketchbook and commit a few doodles to 
paper, and I had seen an art supply store not far from the hotel. The 
proprietors, of course, decided at the same time to shut down for the 
afternoon, and they pulled down the little gate, covering the store so I 
walked right past it. hmmm. I know it's right around here somewhere. 
Maybe down this street. No? Maybe this way.

I was supposed to meet my wife back at the hotel for a little siesta, 
change of clothes and then a ride to a reception, and as it got closer 
to time for me to meet her, the farther away I got and the more 
convinced I became that I would soon find myself in Portugal. The time 
came and went, with me no closer than I had been. I saw much, much more 
of Granada than I had intended to on that day.

And my wife, who is normally quite compassionate and worrisome, came 
back to the hotel, snoozed, changed clothes, and left my lost little ass 
behind.

At long last, tired and angry and sweaty, something occurred to me that 
should have done hours earlier. I hailed a cab. (um, yeah...duh)

Made it back to the hotel, ran upstairs and into my wife's loving ar--- 
hello? Anyone here? I know you were worried...hello?

Oh, well. Changed shirts and got another cab, somehow managing to locate 
in the dark recesses of my brain the name of the place where we were 
supposed to attend the reception,  (at the Alhambra, for you who are 
familiar), and surprised her by actually arriving where I was supposed 
to be.

I'm glad you made it out okay, Mark. But you gotta love the mind of the 
photographer. Well, let's see, it's getting late in the day. I have no 
food or water or the foggiest idea where I am. I think I'll take some 
pictures.

To drag this back in the neighborhood of being on-topic, this reminds me 
to recycle an old fave:

http://www.alphoto.com/poodles/index.html





At 09:49 AM 4/22/04, throwing caution to the wind, Mark Cassino wrote:

tale of being lost





RE: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread Amita Guha
 Pop Photo just did and article 
 on street photography and mentioned the K1000 and a 50mm f2, 

The K1000 wouldn't be my first choice for street photography because the
mirror slap is horrendous. Of course, I've tried it anyway. :)

My favorite camera for street photography is my old Yashicamat TLR. The
shutter is quiet because there's no mirror, and you're not actually
looking AT people, you're looking down into the waist finder, so I think
that helps.




Re: OT - Can files be retrieved from a damaged CD?

2004-04-22 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/22/2004 8:35:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I've got a RAID array in my server with can 
deliver 45MB/s sustained and the writer has an 8MB buffer so it's streams 
along 
quite nicely (even on my old Celeron 500 system).


Rob Studdert
--
Rob, thanks for the info.! 

I've come across mentions of RAID before, but really have no idea what it is. 
Is this something that can be put on an ordinary PC? And, well, what is it? 
;-)

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: Lost In the Woods

2004-04-22 Thread Mark Roberts

I always carry a compass with me when I'm shooting in the woods (or the
mountains or the moors or...). Mostly it's for locating where sunset and
sunrise are going to be but I occasionally put it to navigational uses
the way you did :)
I also keep a light Gore-Tex jacket bungeed to the side of my Lowe Pro
backpack and have a Mylar space blanket packed away inside.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: OT: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)

2004-04-22 Thread alex wetmore
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am looking into storage for my DSLR, so I can off-load pictures from a
 flash card in the field, wipe the card, and start over. I am realizing that
 shooting with a DSLR I will be shooting tons more photos than before and need a way
 to increase my storage capacity. A bit of extra money will be coming my way
 shortly. However, not enough for me to want to get a laptop.

 So, so far this looks like a fairly good idea:
 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/BE6FY7/qid=1082646806/sr=1-2
 /ref=sr_1_2_etk-electronics/002-9840715-2164845?v=glances=electronicsn=17228
 2

This link goes to a GMini 120.

There are many many similar gadgets.  I would recommend doing a search
on dpreview's (http://www.dpreview.com) storage forum for any device that
you are considering.

I'll probably pick up a GMini 220 at some point.  They have somewhat
mixed reviews though.  Specifically the battery is not field replacable,
which really limits how many times you can use it on a trip unless
you have access to AC power.

Currently I'm using a 4g Microdrive and I expect this to keep me going
through the summer.  They are $200 if you buy a Creative Labs MuVo2
and remove the drive.  I bought my MuVo2 from JR Music World.  They
are backordered everywhere, but JR got me the unit in about two weeks
which wasn't too bad.

With the 4gb Microdrive you get about 280 RAW pictures or 990+ L***
JPEGs on the Pentax *ist D.

alex



Re: OT: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)

2004-04-22 Thread Rob Studdert
On 22 Apr 2004 at 11:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am wondering if anyone has used it or something similar. If another brand or
 another type of gadget, what? And what is your opinion of it?

I'm using an X-Drive II (as are a few people here) with an 80GB drive, it was 
much less expensive than any other similar products but it is pretty basic, no 
bells and whistles. It is a USB2 device and connected to my PC via USB2 
interface it can sustain about 4.3MB/s from a card of the integrated HDD. 
However the transfer speed from the card to the integrated HDD is less 
spectacular, just over 1MB/s so a full 2GB card takes about 32 minutes. The 
internal L-ion rechargable battery is supposed to have a 6 hour life but I 
suspect it's somewhat shorter than this, I haven't yet tempted fate to find 
out.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: Lost In the Woods

2004-04-22 Thread Mark Cassino
At 12:29 AM 4/23/2004 +1000, Ryan Lee wrote:

Wonderful account, Mark.. Glad to see you figured it out eventually- though
you should know that we were priming Jostein to be the replacement snowflake
photographer!
LOL  - I guess in addition to bringing a flashlight and cell phone, I 
should also get a will :-0

 I'm just wondering, with the 6x7 gear and the heavyweight
tripod, how you reached the hmm.. I think I'll take the SWAMP TRAIL..
decision!
I hope to answer that with a PAW ...

- MCC
-
Mark Cassino Photography

Kalamazoo, MI

http://www.markcassino.com

-




Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread Bob W
Hi,

 ...street photography (God, do I hate that term
 and description!) ...

Hooray! Yes, I hate it too. It carries such a lot of baggage: inverse
snobbery, political correctness, self-satisfied superiority, self-regarding
capital-A artiness, I suffer for the truth undergraduate bullshit,
with a pathetic claim of imagined bravery in the face of pretend
danger, practiced mostly by posers enthralled by their own off-the-peg image
of urban grit.

And it's not just the term.

Most 'street photography' is itself pointless, exploitative, vacuous crap
masquerading as insight and concern, but hiding a boundless vapidity.
Its pompous, pseudo-profundity is chaff thrown out to hide the true
depths of its shallowness.

Present company excepted, of course.

I also hate the term 'travel photography', for some of the same
reasons, then a few others on top.

What other photographic terms do people hate? Don't hold back now!

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob



Re: Character of M135/3.5

2004-04-22 Thread brooksdj
I did some test shots with my 150 and 135 f 3.5last year, with slide film and am very
happy with slide 
and BW results.
Either the mini lab i deal with or the film choices i use are not good,but my proofs 
are
not that great with 
any of my M lenses.To soft. The BW and slides are very sharp.

I do like the size and feel of both of them.

Now that they will work on an *istD Hummm.  :-)

Dave  

 I picked one up yesterday @ Midwest.
 It was interesting to look at the cast of the coatings.
 It didn't have that more common rich amber case of the 50mm.
 It was more of a mix of amber/blue/purple, more like the
 43/1.9 or F50/1.7 (et. al.)
 
 Who out there is happy with this lens?
 I know it's a bit slow, but the price was right.
 
 Collin
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
 
 
  

 






A 600/5.6 @ KEH

2004-04-22 Thread Paul Eriksson
FYI, KEH just listed a A 600/5.6 in Ex condition for $2100.

Paul

_
Test your ‘Travel Quotient’ and get the chance to win your dream trip! 
http://travel.msn.com



Re: Lost In the Woods

2004-04-22 Thread Doug Franklin
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 09:49:28 -0400, Mark Cassino wrote:

 it toke about 2 hours before I was on a trail I knew
 
So _THAT'S_ what happened! :-)



TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ




Re: OT - Can files be retrieved from a damaged CD?

2004-04-22 Thread Rob Studdert
On 22 Apr 2004 at 11:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've come across mentions of RAID before, but really have no idea what it is. Is
 this something that can be put on an ordinary PC? And, well, what is it? ;-)

RAID is an acronym which is well disputed however in essence it's a series of 
independent drive configured to act in concert. RAID arrays can be configured 
to enhance speed or data integrity or both. It can be implemented via hardware 
and in some instances software however if software driven it's likely to load 
your CPU. 

More information can be found at: http://www.acnc.com/04_00.html

Reliable RAID cards at all price points and for all common HDD interfaces can 
be found at: http://www.promise.com



Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread Peter J. Alling
I really like the Kodak Retina IIc for that, everything a camera needs 
except a meter.  Good range finder
Quite shutter folds into a small pocketable package. It doesn't look 
like a modern camera so no one takes
it seriously.  Unfortunately the example I have is a bit worn and I'm 
afraid every time I cock it's shutter will be
the last.

Amita Guha wrote:

Pop Photo just did and article 
on street photography and mentioned the K1000 and a 50mm f2, 
   

The K1000 wouldn't be my first choice for street photography because the
mirror slap is horrendous. Of course, I've tried it anyway. :)
My favorite camera for street photography is my old Yashicamat TLR. The
shutter is quiet because there's no mirror, and you're not actually
looking AT people, you're looking down into the waist finder, so I think
that helps.


 





RE: OT: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)

2004-04-22 Thread Jens Bladt
Doesn't this reqiure a computer, a USB cable and a card reader?
I would prefere a Flash Trax, a Vosonic X-drive, or an Image Tank, that can
read several types of memorycards (for different cameras) and seem more
convenient, since I don't need anything besides this, my camera and card to
unload the pics. The Flash Trax even has a screen to view the shots! Solifor
makes one that can even burn a CD on location!

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: alex wetmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 22. april 2004 17:42
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Re: OT: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)


On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am looking into storage for my DSLR, so I can off-load pictures from a
 flash card in the field, wipe the card, and start over. I am realizing
that
 shooting with a DSLR I will be shooting tons more photos than before and
need a way
 to increase my storage capacity. A bit of extra money will be coming my
way
 shortly. However, not enough for me to want to get a laptop.

 So, so far this looks like a fairly good idea:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/BE6FY7/qid=1082646806/sr=1
-2

/ref=sr_1_2_etk-electronics/002-9840715-2164845?v=glances=electronicsn=172
28
 2

This link goes to a GMini 120.

There are many many similar gadgets.  I would recommend doing a search
on dpreview's (http://www.dpreview.com) storage forum for any device that
you are considering.

I'll probably pick up a GMini 220 at some point.  They have somewhat
mixed reviews though.  Specifically the battery is not field replacable,
which really limits how many times you can use it on a trip unless
you have access to AC power.

Currently I'm using a 4g Microdrive and I expect this to keep me going
through the summer.  They are $200 if you buy a Creative Labs MuVo2
and remove the drive.  I bought my MuVo2 from JR Music World.  They
are backordered everywhere, but JR got me the unit in about two weeks
which wasn't too bad.

With the 4gb Microdrive you get about 280 RAW pictures or 990+ L***
JPEGs on the Pentax *ist D.

alex





RE: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread brooksdj
I dont do a whole lot of it, but if i go into Toronto i usually do the same,take my
Yashica-Mat. I take a 
general meter reading and look down,shuffle my feet,look at a map etc when i focus.The
leaf shutter is 
to quiet to be heard on a busy street corner.

Plus the lens on it is quite good

Dave

  Pop Photo just did and article 
  on street photography and mentioned the K1000 and a 50mm f2, 
 
 The K1000 wouldn't be my first choice for street photography because the
 mirror slap is horrendous. Of course, I've tried it anyway. :)
 
 My favorite camera for street photography is my old Yashicamat TLR. The
 shutter is quiet because there's no mirror, and you're not actually
 looking AT people, you're looking down into the waist finder, so I think
 that helps.
 
 






RE: OT: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)

2004-04-22 Thread Rob Brigham
I think the gmini does have a screen, albeit a very low res mono one.
It also has a CF slot.  It wont view RAW files though - only flashtrax
does that.  I think the Gmini does have better battery life than the
flashtrax though, but wont play mp3s or AVIs if that is of interest
(whereas flashtrax will).

The gmini is a cheap and cheerful job which does basic file holding, is
fairly small and allows you to preview jpgs to make sure the file is
intact.

The flashtrax has a better screen, bigger disc, views RAW files, plays
mp3s  AVIs and has superlative support from the manufacturer (Archos is
poor in this area I believe).

It's a toss up between better functionality and less money I think...
If you use RAW there is no choice IMO.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 22 April 2004 17:27
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: OT: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)
 
 
 Doesn't this reqiure a computer, a USB cable and a card 
 reader? I would prefere a Flash Trax, a Vosonic X-drive, or 
 an Image Tank, that can read several types of memorycards 
 (for different cameras) and seem more convenient, since I 
 don't need anything besides this, my camera and card to 
 unload the pics. The Flash Trax even has a screen to view the 
 shots! Solifor makes one that can even burn a CD on location!
 
 Jens Bladt
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
 
 
 -Oprindelig meddelelse-
 Fra: alex wetmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sendt: 22. april 2004 17:42
 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Emne: Re: OT: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)
 
 
 On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am looking into storage for my DSLR, so I can off-load 
 pictures from 
  a flash card in the field, wipe the card, and start over. I am 
  realizing
 that
  shooting with a DSLR I will be shooting tons more photos 
 than before 
  and
 need a way
  to increase my storage capacity. A bit of extra money will 
 be coming 
  my
 way
  shortly. However, not enough for me to want to get a laptop.
 
  So, so far this looks like a fairly good idea:
 
 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/BE6FY7/qid=1
082646806/sr=1
-2

/ref=sr_1_2_etk-electronics/002-9840715-2164845?v=glances=electronicsn
=172
28
 2

This link goes to a GMini 120.

There are many many similar gadgets.  I would recommend doing a search
on dpreview's (http://www.dpreview.com) storage forum for any device
that you are considering.

I'll probably pick up a GMini 220 at some point.  They have somewhat
mixed reviews though.  Specifically the battery is not field replacable,
which really limits how many times you can use it on a trip unless you
have access to AC power.

Currently I'm using a 4g Microdrive and I expect this to keep me going
through the summer.  They are $200 if you buy a Creative Labs MuVo2 and
remove the drive.  I bought my MuVo2 from JR Music World.  They are
backordered everywhere, but JR got me the unit in about two weeks which
wasn't too bad.

With the 4gb Microdrive you get about 280 RAW pictures or 990+ L***
JPEGs on the Pentax *ist D.

alex






RE: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread Malcolm Smith
Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 Not to put too fine a point on it, the M7 is a recent Leica, 
 only a year or two (at most) on the market. 20+ years ago 
 you'd have been using an M4-series, or older.

I didn't word that too well, what I meant was it's 20+ years since I had a
rangefinder camera - it certainly wasn't a Leica, but back then I couldn't
afford a Pentax. I can't remember who did make it, but it was a present for
my 13th birthday and was used years later as a p/ex for my first Pentax MX.
This will annoy me now, until I remember - I do know it was my second choice
of camera, as I didn't have enough for the Zenit E :-)
 
 One thing that makes a Leica (and other RF cameras) better 
 than an SLR for street photography (God, do I hate that term 
 and description!) is that you can see outside the frame 
 lines, which means you can see what's coming into the frame 
 and what's surrounding it, allowing for better composition in 
 fast changing environments.  There are other factors as well, 
 but I'll leave them be for now ... although, I will say that 
 all too often an SLR is too big or too noisy, or both, for 
 certain situations.

Thanks, all noted.

I agree with you about the term 'street photography', but most of the
alternative descriptions are pretty ghastly too. Perhaps someone can come up
with a better description? 
 
 Personally, I like the MX quite a bit for those times when an 
 SLR is a good choice.  It's a nice compliment to the Leica, 
 especially with certain lenses, like the M50/1.4 or the 
 K35/2.5 or 28/3.5.  The FA* 43mm is a superb choice (in fact, 
 it's also made in a Leica thread mount  ahh!) and I 
 suspect the FA* 77mm would be fine as well.

Both the FA* 43  77mm are on my wish list.

Malcolm




Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I hate using the word images instead of photographs, yet
it's becoming so common that I find myself using it
sometimes, and I REALLY dislike that!

Bob W wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
  ...street photography (God, do I hate that term
  and description!) ...

 What other photographic terms do people hate? Don't hold back now!



Re: Web Site Take Two

2004-04-22 Thread Norm Baugher
Nice stie, great stuff!
Norm
Shaun Canning wrote:

www.heritageservices.com.au
 




Re: digital cameras and filter use

2004-04-22 Thread Rob Studdert
On 22 Apr 2004 at 18:45, Markus Maurer wrote:

 3.Which filters do you use most if any ? Skylight, Pol?
 
 only wondering

Only Pol, ND and severe CC filters (for correcting poor artificial light).


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Retina (was Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey)

2004-04-22 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
I've had/seen several Retina bodies (IIIc) but have never had a IIa or IIc.  How do 
they differ from the IIIc?

Cord has some nice old Schneider Retina lenses if anyone is interested.  And they 
include the original plastic cases!

No mention yet of the (ever-so-popular) Canon G-III QL17 rangefinder.  While I don't 
do street shooting, it would seem good for that function.  Quiet and compact.

CRB 





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Re: Lost In the Woods

2004-04-22 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography

Mark Cassino revealed: ...snip
  So, after about 15 minutes I realized I was hopelessly lostvery
entertaining adventure story snipped here/snip

Thanks heaps for sharing that with us Mark, what a great story, can't wait
to see the pics!

tan.



Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread Rob Studdert
On 22 Apr 2004 at 9:53, Keith Whaley wrote:

 Hey, Shel, no problem here! Images for digital, and photographs for 
 film.
 I think I've always followed that personal preference...

To my mind they are all images, like ship/plane/cars are transport.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: AW: Stll confused *ist D

2004-04-22 Thread Rob Studdert
On 22 Apr 2004 at 18:56, keller.schaefer wrote:

 ... but don't let this stop you. A much as I like the elegant and simple
 layout of the MZ-S - adjusting the aperture with the thumb-wheel (with an A or
 FA lens mounted) also works very well.

Not for all of us.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Lost In the Woods

2004-04-22 Thread Peter J. Alling
Maybe he didn't find his way out and this is all in his mind...

Doug Franklin wrote:

On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 09:49:28 -0400, Mark Cassino wrote:

 

it toke about 2 hours before I was on a trail I knew
   


So _THAT'S_ what happened! :-)


TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ



 





OT: Lyndon B. Johnson Award

2004-04-22 Thread Jens Bladt
Today the Danish prime minister Mr. Rasmussen, received the Lyndon B.
Johnson Award, because the Danish people (the Danish fishermen) smuggled a
lot of jews to Sweeden during WW2, thus saving their lives. The thruth is
that they actually made a lot money this way. Nevertheless they were risking
their lives crossing Øresund and passing the German Marine sixty years ago.
Perhaps the Sweeds should get one for receiveing and adopting the Jewish
people.
Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 21. april 2004 20:16
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Re: History


I'm surprised, Peter.  You're not usually a wise-acre.  vbg

I wonder where that saying comes from?  I can see wise ass (which Peter is
one of, BTW), but wise-acre?  As opposed to those stupid acres?

Well, really, who cares?

-frank

The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist
fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Just when I was composing a wise ass comment.


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Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Then hop in your image and drive to Brisbane LOL

Rob Studdert wrote:

  Hey, Shel, no problem here! Images for digital, and photographs for
  film.
  I think I've always followed that personal preference...
 
 To my mind they are all images, like ship/plane/cars are transport.



Re: OT - Why preflash? (was:Re: DSLR slide duplicator)

2004-04-22 Thread John Francis
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Gamma (also written as the infinity
  symbol, IIRC) .
 
 
 WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!  Shame on me for not checking, and shame on
 list-members who should have known and didn't spot my mistake.

And what about those of us who spotted it, but didn't consider it
worth correcting a minor error in a parenthetical aside?  It's not
as if this was particularly germane to the central discussion.



Re: OT: Lyndon B. Johnson Award

2004-04-22 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Raul Wallenburg was basically abandoned and forgotten for his major part 
in saving many Jewish people from the Nazis during WW II.

Jens Bladt wrote:

Perhaps the Sweeds should get one for receiveing and adopting the Jewish
people.
 





Re: digital cameras and filter use

2004-04-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/4/04, MARKUS, discombobulated, offered:

1. What kind of filters if any do digital photographers still use?
   Only effect filters or some kind of correcting filters too or is everything
made later with software?

Circular polariser. Everything else I can do in Photoshlop. Mainly grad
stuff, but not much.


Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: OT: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)

2004-04-22 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/22/2004 9:36:41 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I would recommend doing a search
on dpreview's (http://www.dpreview.com) storage forum for any device
that you are considering.

-
Yeah, but, you know, the manufacturers' don't call these things all by the 
same name, as in Compact Flash card. So it's hard to search for them anywhere. 
In google and Amazon I plug in portable drive and get some. But it would be 
nice if they had a generic name (portable drive with built-in card reader, or 6 
in 1, or 4 in 1 reader -- of course some are MP3 players and some are not -- 
but they are variously called photo wallets, digital photo albums, portable 
drive, etc., etc.).

Thus, I've already learned a lot from the answers in this thread so far.

Marnie aka Doe ;-)



RE: Lost In the Woods

2004-04-22 Thread Malcolm Smith
Keith Whaley wrote:

 The real lesson was, he didn't panic...
 He knew he was totally lost, and quite literally didn't know 
 which way to turn.
 Instead, he kept his wits about him, and thought his way out 
 of an otherwise frightening situation, proceeding with a 
 solution that would surely get him out and home, albeit with 
 a little delay.
 
 Well done, Mark.

Well said. Great to have a happy outcome to this trip and I look forward to
seeing the PAW. It's also a useful reminder to us all to consider what you
take with you on such a trip - even if you don't become disorientated (which
is all too easily done) other things can happen. One of my friends broke his
ankle badly in the forest, just a few minutes from a well used parking area.
He'd left the 'phone in the car. Normally there would be no end of people
out walking their dogs, but not of course on this occasion. He was there
several hours before someone found him and called for an ambulance.

Malcolm




Re: my first PAW: petals

2004-04-22 Thread Kenneth Waller
Image appears a little soft (focus). The composition is a little static with the 
subject more or less in the center of the picture, try different shots with the center 
of the flower at different positions off center - divide the viewfinder into 9 equal 
size boxes and put the center of the flower at one of the intersections of the corners 
of the box - gives a more dynamic feel to the image. Not a rule but something to keep 
in mind

-Original Message-
From: Gaurav Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Apr 22, 2004 5:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: my first PAW: petals

I am a beginner in photog. Been shooting for more than a couple of years
but have hardly got a good eye for composition and the techniques aren't
any better. Recently, I tried macro for the first time. Here is my first
PAW.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2303410size=lg

All kinds of comments welcome, especially those that will help me improve
my compositions skills as well tell me more about how to handle a camera
better.

Gaurav




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Re: Retina (was Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey)

2004-04-22 Thread Keith Whaley


Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

I've had/seen several Retina bodies (IIIc) but have never 
 had a IIa or IIc.  How do they differ from the IIIc?
Cord has some nice old Schneider Retina lenses if anyone 
 is interested.  And they include the original plastic cases!

These are probably for use with the Retina IIIs or Retina Reflex.
Beautiful lenses they are...
BTW, who's Cord? That name doesn't ring a bell...
No mention yet of the (ever-so-popular) Canon G-III QL17 
rangefinder.  While I don't do street shooting, it would
 seem good for that function.  Quiet and compact.
CRB 
The similarity is great, actually.

The IIa had a 50mm f/2.0 Retina-Xenon lens.
The IIc had a 50mm Xenon-C or Heligon-C with a replaceable
front element, to make it an 80mm f/4.0 or 35mm
f/5.6 W.A. lens, and an LVS scale added.
The IIIc had a built-in light meter, same lens as above.
I think this one was slightly larger body, but I'd
have to confirm that with my Retina book. (Or, lazy
me, I'd only have to take both out to measure them!)
The IIIC was a IIIc with viewfinder enlarged to accept bright
frame lines for standard, wide-angle and telephoto lenses.
keith whaley



Re: OT - Can files be retrieved from a damaged CD?

2004-04-22 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/22/2004 9:12:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
More information can be found at: http://www.acnc.com/04_00.html

Reliable RAID cards at all price points and for all common HDD interfaces can 
be found at: http://www.promise.com



Rob Studdert

Cool. Thanks!

Marnie aka Doe



PAW

2004-04-22 Thread Bruce Dayton
Been a while since I got a PAW put up - too busy, have a bunch I may
get up there.  One thing that I find nice about the PAW vs PUG is
being able to show work that may not be your obvious best but can help
you learn and grow more.  So rather than just being a showcase, it can
be a great tool to improve your talents.

Anyway, shot this one this morning - saw the sun shining through the
petals and thought it provided a perspective that is seen
infrequently.  Shutter speed 1/180, f9.5, ISO 200, *istD, Tamron SP
90/2.8 macro, handheld.  Wish I had the tripod handy, but did the best
I could to hold still-it was somewhat windy.

Your thoughts and comments are appreciated.
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/imgp7114.htm

Bruce





Re: Bit selection for Pentax RAW file?

2004-04-22 Thread Lon Williamson
One must remember, as much as we love Herb (well, I like him!)
that 16 bit might be overkill.  I've done the tests.  I like 8 bit.
Joseph Tainter wrote:
Herb wrote:

i'm surprised you see any difference. that isn't the point. the point 
is that 8-bit mode allows you a few manipulations before you see 
artifacts. 16-bit mode allows you quite a bit more before that starts to 
happen.

Thanks, Herb. I wasn't aware of that. I may now try more 16-bit editing.



Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread mike wilson
Hi,

Bob W wrote:

What other photographic terms do people hate? Don't hold back now!
If you mean titles, then portrait photographer rather makes me itch. 
It always brings a mental picture of someone like Kenneth Williams in 
the Hancock programme, probably with a name like Baron.

Yes, I know he was a real one..

mike





Sports Illistrated workflow

2004-04-22 Thread cbwaters
For those interested in how the big guys cover a big event and how they work
with all the images, here's a link I got from dpreview's main page.
Cool reading IMO.
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-6453-6821

Cory



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Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/22/2004 9:56:27 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Knowledgable sales staff.

Dave
--
ROFL!

Marnie aka Laughing Doe



Re: Character of M135/3.5

2004-04-22 Thread brooksdj
Both Keith.

I did a similar test with the 28-105 i bought from Joe W. in February. 
The colour slides and the BW were just great.Tack sharp. I shot some colour neg film 
for
horse 
passports and again they did not lookt quite right.

Therefore: i'm assuming its in the film or proccessing.I did find out last night he 
will
be going out of 
business in June.Cannot compete in the digital world,so maybe he's not paying 
attention to
detail as he 
once did..

I once though that my M lenses were at fault,but if slide and BW are giving me great
returns,i'd say its 
not the case.

Dave

 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I did some test shots with my 150 and 135 f 3.5last year, with slide film and am 
  very
  happy with slide 
  and BW results.
  Either the mini lab i deal with or the film choices i use are not good,but my 
  proofs
are

  not that great with 
  any of my M lenses.To soft. The BW and slides are very sharp.
  
  I do like the size and feel of both of them.
  
  Now that they will work on an *istD Hummm.  :-)
  
  Dave  
 
 Okay, David, which was it?
 If your BW (prints?) are very sharp, as are your slides (I assume 
 color?) were both shot thru the same lens? Or different lenses?
 Which was responsible for the to [sic] soft prints? The 150mm or the 
 135mm?
 
 keith whaley
 






Re: *ist-D: a report from the field

2004-04-22 Thread Lon Williamson
HEY PENTAX:  We've been complaining about this for years.
FIX IT.
gfen wrote:
yOn Sat, 17 Apr 2004, Bill Owens wrote:

Typical of all Pentax cameras.  When you replace it, put a rubber vand
around it.


Check with wives, daughters, and girlfriends (or long hair hippy types) 
for elastic hair bands. I bought a package of little black, non-fabic 
covered, jobs that aren't supposed to pull your hair out and since they're 
small and black fit -perfectly- around the eyecup of a ZX-5n.





Re: PAW

2004-04-22 Thread brooksdj
Thats a keeper Bruce.

I like the framing,and bokeh. The colours look very rich on my monitor.The water(dew) 
adds
to it i think.

Dave

 Been a while since I got a PAW put up - too 
busy, have a bunch I may
 get up there.  One thing that I find nice about the PAW vs PUG is
 being able to show work that may not be your obvious best but can help
 you learn and grow more.  So rather than just being a showcase, it can
 be a great tool to improve your talents.
 
 Anyway, shot this one this morning - saw the sun shining through the
 petals and thought it provided a perspective that is seen
 infrequently.  Shutter speed 1/180, f9.5, ISO 200, *istD, Tamron SP
 90/2.8 macro, handheld.  Wish I had the tripod handy, but did the best
 I could to hold still-it was somewhat windy.
 
 Your thoughts and comments are appreciated.
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/imgp7114.htm
 
 Bruce
 
 
 






Re: Copyright on photos?

2004-04-22 Thread John Francis
Cotty wrote:

 On 22/4/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, offered:
 
 I have filmed people many times who absolutely *do not* want to be
 filmed, and the shots have been used on national TV ad nauseam.
 
 Basically it's what you can get away with in court :-)

But that's because what you (and I) do falls under the description of
news coverage, which has rather less restrictions.  The rules differ
somewhat from country to country, but freedom of information covers
a multitude of sins.

Trying to use an image from that news coverage for commercial purposes,
though (even something as straightforward as selling a single print to
an individual) means you have to play by a different set of rules.



RE: Lost In the Woods

2004-04-22 Thread Steve Desjardins
I once spoke with a ranger who told me about a woman that got lost going
off the Appalachian trail.  She had a cell phone and a GPS unit, so she
called the park service and told them her coordinates.  This was the
first time it had happened this way, and it wasn't easy for them to
figure out where she was just using latitude and longitude.  They are
better prepared now (new maps with better L/L markings) since this is a
more common combination of equipment.


Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: what's your favorite Pentax macro?

2004-04-22 Thread Nick Clark
I have the Tamron 90mm f2.8 AF and the Pentax F 100mm f2.8. I prefer the Tamron for 
its handling, particularly the large focusing ring, as I'm often used MF for macro. I 
can't really see the difference in image quality, and when I tested them the Tamron 
gave higher contrast. The Pentax did have a fungus problem at the time (since fixed by 
Pentax), so I should probably test them again.

Cheers

Nick

-Original Message-
From: Amita Guha[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 20/04/04 22:55:26
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: what's your favorite Pentax macro?

Pentax glass experts,

It looks like I might finally be able to buy a macro lens soon. I was
wondering, what's your favorite Pentax (or other) macro lens and why? It
could be AF or MF. 

Thanks,
Amita





Re: Update 2: Paw in progress:Pictures from old work jobs.

2004-04-22 Thread brooksdj
Thanks Attila.
I shot 3-4 rolls of these guys over the summer.Tough subject but i got a few 
keepers.:-)

Dave  


 Hello brooksdj,
 
 Wednesday, April 21, 2004, 3:30:26 PM, you wrote:
 
 
 bcin 
 bcin http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=244208
 
 bcin  Hi gang.
 
 bcin  I have added 10-11 pictures to day,from main land
 bcin British Columbia,gliders,humming birds,
 bcin and oh, an 
 bcin actual work shotvbgThis job was to establish first
 bcin order elevations through out the
 bcin Yellow Head Hwy 
 bcin area from Jasper to Prince George.
 
 Those humming birds photos are great! I like those little blurred
 wings, no. 1 is a very pleasing composition against a blue sky framed
 by clouds.
 
 Also liked the beachcomber, but would like to see a little more detail
 in his beard.
 
 Attila
 
 






Re: Retina (was Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey)

2004-04-22 Thread Joe Wilensky
I've had quite a few Retinas over time, from the scale-focusing early 
models to a Ib, a IIc, and currently a IIa. I like the IIa the best 
because of the wonderful f/2 lens and the traditional Retina 
styling -- from the IIc onward (IIIc and then the big c models, IIC 
and IIIC), the wind levers were on the bottom of the camera and the 
bodies were a bit larger and bulkier.

I even had the telephoto lens and auxillary finder for the IIc, but 
the Retina is such a cumbersome and unfriendly camera that way that 
it loses all its benefits (small size, unobtrusive, quick focus). A 
Retina is best, IMO, when it can be folded up when needed and put in 
a pocket but also ready for action. The shutters are whisper quiet, 
and it's the smallest camera I've ever owned with a lens that fast.

The viewfinders are small and squinty, and this is where the Canonet 
and similar '70s rangefinders have an advantage (although most newer 
cameras have the advantage of built-in lightmeters). But the Retinas 
flash synch up to 1/300 or 1/500, (I can't remember their top speed 
now) and can operate in quick point-and-shoot mode. There is even a 
frame-type sportsfinder available for them (with parallax 
adjustment!).

One of the first times I used my Retina IIa was on a day trip to 
Manhattan with a trip to see The Producers on Broadway that night. 
A few nice shots, and I could shoot easily at about 1/60 to 1/125 at 
f/2.8 in Times Square at night on 400 speed film. When not in use, it 
slipped easily into my jacket pocket.

For a nice writeup of the Retina IIa, see Stephen Gandy's page at:
http://www.cameraquest.com/retIIa.htm
Joe


Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

I've had/seen several Retina bodies (IIIc) but have never
 had a IIa or IIc.  How do they differ from the IIIc?

Cord has some nice old Schneider Retina lenses if anyone
  is interested.  And they include the original plastic cases!

These are probably for use with the Retina IIIs or Retina Reflex.
Beautiful lenses they are...
BTW, who's Cord? That name doesn't ring a bell...
No mention yet of the (ever-so-popular) Canon G-III QL17
rangefinder.  While I don't do street shooting, it would
 seem good for that function.  Quiet and compact.
CRB
The similarity is great, actually.

The IIa had a 50mm f/2.0 Retina-Xenon lens.
The IIc had a 50mm Xenon-C or Heligon-C with a replaceable
front element, to make it an 80mm f/4.0 or 35mm
f/5.6 W.A. lens, and an LVS scale added.
The IIIc had a built-in light meter, same lens as above.
I think this one was slightly larger body, but I'd
have to confirm that with my Retina book. (Or, lazy
me, I'd only have to take both out to measure them!)
The IIIC was a IIIc with viewfinder enlarged to accept bright
frame lines for standard, wide-angle and telephoto lenses.
keith whaley




Black Crowned Night Heron (now includes toes!)

2004-04-22 Thread Mark Roberts
http://www.robertstech.com/graphics/pages/7d400839.htm

Mark Cassino (I think) suggested this shot would be better if it
included all of the heron's toes. I pulled it out of the slide mount
and, sure enough, the toes were there! I re-scanned it and darkened the
sky as someone else suggested.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: my first PAW: petals

2004-04-22 Thread Jostein
Hi Gaurav,

I think you have done pretty well with this one.
A shallow Depth Of Field, but focus is in the right parts. It seems very
natural.

To me, it doesn't look like you lack composition skill. :-)

If you have a tripod, play around with it a bit and see how DOF changes (at
close focus distancecs) as you stop down.

Cheers,
Jostein


- Original Message - 
From: Gaurav Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 11:05 AM
Subject: my first PAW: petals


 I am a beginner in photog. Been shooting for more than a couple of years
 but have hardly got a good eye for composition and the techniques aren't
 any better. Recently, I tried macro for the first time. Here is my first
 PAW.

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2303410size=lg

 All kinds of comments welcome, especially those that will help me improve
 my compositions skills as well tell me more about how to handle a camera
 better.

 Gaurav





Re: Black Crowned Night Heron (now includes toes!)

2004-04-22 Thread Christian
nice!  great composition, the toes do help and the darker sky really works!

Christian

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 3:14 PM
Subject: Black Crowned Night Heron (now includes toes!)


 http://www.robertstech.com/graphics/pages/7d400839.htm
 
 Mark Cassino (I think) suggested this shot would be better if it
 included all of the heron's toes. I pulled it out of the slide mount
 and, sure enough, the toes were there! I re-scanned it and darkened the
 sky as someone else suggested.
 
 -- 
 Mark Roberts
 Photography and writing
 www.robertstech.com
 



AW: AW: Stll confused *ist D

2004-04-22 Thread keller.schaefer
Frankly, I find these differences overrated anyway. Maybe that is due to the
fact that I am no professional - but then if I was one, I would hopefully be
able to train myself enough to master the particular oddities of *any* (one)
camera's user interface.
I do find these differences interesting, sometimes amusing, part of the
fun - but really nothing that would stop me using a camera.

What I find annoying is when the layout of a camera (combined with my own
forgetfulness) leads to mistakes - like setting an exposure correction
factor on an ME and not to reset it for the rest of the film. Or switching
the *ist D to ISO 1600 and forget about it...

I'd still say that compared to my other favourite brand (Rollei), Pentax
cameras are very straightforward to use.

Sven



-Ursprungliche Nachricht-
Von: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. April 2004 19:23
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: Re: AW: Stll confused *ist D


On 22 Apr 2004 at 18:56, keller.schaefer wrote:

 ... but don't let this stop you. A much as I like the elegant and simple
 layout of the MZ-S - adjusting the aperture with the thumb-wheel (with an
A or
 FA lens mounted) also works very well.

Not for all of us.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Pentax history . a camera for lefties

2004-04-22 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi
does anybody know whether Pentax ever considered constructing a camera for
lefties (left handed)?
Or have you ever seen another brand?
Would have been nice for me.
Markus







RE: Pentax history . a camera for lefties

2004-04-22 Thread J. C. O'Connell
kyrocera yashica made a half frame 35mm camera in the early
90's that was avail in both right and left hand models.
JCO


   J.C. O'Connell   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://jcoconnell.com


-Original Message-
From: Markus Maurer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 3:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Pentax history . a camera for lefties


Hi
does anybody know whether Pentax ever considered constructing a camera for
lefties (left handed)?
Or have you ever seen another brand?
Would have been nice for me.
Markus







Re: OT: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)

2004-04-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Try USB drive that tends to bring up a lot of hits.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 In a message dated 4/22/2004 9:36:41 AM Pacific Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I would recommend doing a search
 on dpreview's (http://www.dpreview.com) storage forum for any device
 that you are considering.
 
 -
 Yeah, but, you know, the manufacturers' don't call these things all by the
 same name, as in Compact Flash card. So it's hard to search for them anywhere.
 In google and Amazon I plug in portable drive and get some. But it would be
 nice if they had a generic name (portable drive with built-in card reader, or 6
 in 1, or 4 in 1 reader -- of course some are MP3 players and some are not --
 but they are variously called photo wallets, digital photo albums, portable
 drive, etc., etc.).
 
 Thus, I've already learned a lot from the answers in this thread so far.
 
 Marnie aka Doe ;-)



Re: Retina (was Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey)

2004-04-22 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 11:03:51 -0700 
From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Collin Brendemuehl wrote: 

 I've had/seen several Retina bodies (IIIc) but have never 
 had a IIa or IIc.  How do they differ from the IIIc? 
 
 Cord has some nice old Schneider Retina lenses if anyone 
 is interested.  And they include the original plastic cases! 

These are probably for use with the Retina IIIs or Retina Reflex. 
Beautiful lenses they are... 
BTW, who's Cord? That name doesn't ring a bell... 


Cord Camera Centers is a regional chain.
Their 5th Ave. store in Columbus is my source for 
many, many bargains.  Like that load of outdated film
and paper each of the past 2 years.  And a 90WR
for a PDMLer a couple of weeks ago.  And a K105/2.8
about 2 years ago.  They buy and sell a lot of used
equipment.


The similarity is great, actually. 

The IIa had a 50mm f/2.0 Retina-Xenon lens. 
The IIc had a 50mm Xenon-C or Heligon-C with a replaceable 
front element, to make it an 80mm f/4.0 or 35mm 
f/5.6 W.A. lens, and an LVS scale added. 
The IIIc had a built-in light meter, same lens as above. 
I think this one was slightly larger body, but I'd 
have to confirm that with my Retina book. (Or, lazy 
me, I'd only have to take both out to measure them!) 
The IIIC was a IIIc with viewfinder enlarged to accept bright 
frame lines for standard, wide-angle and telephoto lenses. 

keith whaley 

Thanks,

Collin 





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Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread mike wilson
Cotty wrote:
On 22/4/04, MIKE W, discombobulated, offered:


portrait photographer rather makes me itch. 
It always brings a mental picture of someone like Kenneth Williams in 
the Hancock programme, probably with a name like Baron.


Hilary St. Claire !
shudder



Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey

2004-04-22 Thread William Johnson
I just inherited one of these, and it is quite nice.  A little more fall off
in the lens than I would like to see, but it is quite sharp.  I see the lack
of autowinder (although supposedly one can be added to it) a feature, rather
than a liability.

William in Utah.
- Original Message - 
From: Andre Langevin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: Semi OT-Street Photography survey


snip

 Non-SLR choices:

 Pentax PC35 (35mm f2.8)

 Sharp lenses, some distorsion in the 32mm lens, very low noise.  PC35
 has no auto-winding (neither auto-rewinding).  Less noise than a
 Leica.





Re: Character of M135/3.5

2004-04-22 Thread Alan Chan
Here are some M135/3.5 shots.  :-)

http://www.pbase.com/wlachan/pentax_m13535

Regards,
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
Okay, David, which was it?
If your BW (prints?) are very sharp, as are your slides (I assume color?) 
were both shot thru the same lens? Or different lenses?
Which was responsible for the to [sic] soft prints? The 150mm or the 
135mm?

keith whaley
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Re: birds and turtles

2004-04-22 Thread Kenneth Waller
Herb, I didn't appreciate the technique/skill required to capture moving
subjects with long lenses until I got my 600mm several years ago. I had done
fairly well with my 300mm FA. My ratio of keepers to shots taken with the
600 is among the lowest of any lens I shoot. On top of that there are only
so many catalog shots of wildlife that you can take. So it really is a
stalker lens where you might invest a lot of time sitting and waiting for
the wildlife to actually do something other than pose. I love my 600 and I
have a real appreciation for those that capture great images with it.
IMHO long lenses are in a different league than most other lenses (with or
without autofocus).

Kenneth Waller
- Original Message -
From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: birds and turtles


 the point i was trying to make is that autofocus would have made it easier
 to get the shots with the right part in exact focus, not harder. Pentax
has
 a gap in their current FA* long telephoto lenses with no FA* 400/2.8. the
 FA* 400/5.6 isn't of the same quality and the FA* 300/2.8 isn't long
enough.
 right now, the FA* 600/4 is too pricey, but it's in the budget for
October.

 Herb
 - Original Message -
 From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 2:10 PM
 Subject: Re: birds and turtles


  I know how hard it must be to do what you're doing and nail down the
focus
  of moving animals with the aperture wide open.  Actually, I don't know,
  because I've never tried it.  I can imagine it's difficult, though.
 
  As I indicated in my original post, many of the photos I did like, even
 ones
  where the focus was off just a tad.






Re: PAW - Week of 4/12

2004-04-22 Thread Kenneth Waller
Frank, thanks for commenting. With the exception of shooting b+w, I've tried
your technique. It doesn't work for me. VBG
Kenneth Waller
- Original Message -
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: RE: PAW - Week of 4/12


 What would I have done differently?

 I'd have taken it in bw.  I'd have shaken the camera a bit just before I
 snapped, you know, to get that jittery look that's becoming my
trademark.
 I'd have gone with a teeny aperture, so I could see the background better.
 That's what I'd have done.

 OTOH, your approach has it's merits too, Ken!  LOL

 Other than that silly thing about the Wings (you're not talking hockey,
are
 you?), and the fact that you're usurping one of our great country's most
 enduring symbols, I'm pretty much blown away by this.

 The delicate frost, backlit on the edges of the leaves is amazing.  And,
the
 frosted whatevers, nicely OOF in the background are incredible.  Great
comp:
   not one leaf is complete - I love it.

 Great photo, Ken.

 cheers,
 frank

 The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The
pessimist
 fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




 From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: PAW - Week of 4/12
 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 15:17:49 -0400
 
 Taken last fall, on a very frosty morning, in the U P of Michigan.
 
 Comments - likes/dislikes - what would you have done differently
 
 http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html
 
 Thanks in advance for looking /commenting.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 

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Re: OT: Lyndon B. Johnson Award

2004-04-22 Thread Anders Hultman
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, Jens Bladt wrote:

 Perhaps the Sweeds should get one for receiveing and adopting the Jewish
 people.

Receiving jews wasn't something that Sweden was so very good at, really.
One could even say that Sweden was quite bad at it, unfortunately.

anders
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http://anders.hultman.nu/
med dagens bild och allt!



Re: Lost In the Woods

2004-04-22 Thread mapson
At 01:09 AM 23/04/2004, you wrote:
The real lesson was, he didn't panic...
He knew he was totally lost,
He wasn't lost lost, he was just temporarily disoriented. Once you get 
properly lost - YOU STOP and do not move (for a number of reasons)



   (*)o(*) 
Robert
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Re: moire effect - trouble in stills as well as DVD and video?

2004-04-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/4/04, ANNSAN, discombobulated, offered:

Is this something that has always been a problem
with video technology or
is it (a) just since the digital revolution 
 and   (b) only something to worry about in MOVING
images?

AFAIK it's just peculiar to images displayed on a Cathode Ray Tube,
moving or still and can appear due to two identical patterns not exactly
matched up when displayed on a scanning TV screen (CRT). Hence, a noisy
pattern on a jacket that displays the Moire effect on the CRT screen will
not display it when printed out onto paper. The reason is that on the
paper, there is only one image. On the TV screen there are two -
interlaced, appearing together. The critical line-up sometimes cannot be
achieved between the two interlaced images and the 'strobing' effect -
the Moire patterning - results. I'm not sure if it can happen on an LCD
screen, I don't think so but I could be wrong. I'm not a tecchy, but can
find out.

This page may or may not help to understand:

http://www.mathematik.com/Moire/

HTH


Cheers,
  Cotty


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