PESO - images from NorCal PDML gathering
John Celio mused: P.S.: I shot entirely on film, which should be developed tomorrow or the next day, but I'm curious where all the digital photos are. The majority of cameras at the gathering were digital. Anyone got some good ones to post? Even with digital, it takes a little while to proof-and-print :-) Here's several of my images, just to give a feel for what I found. Not all of them are technically all that great, but I thought I'd put up more than usual so we can compare how others saw the same opportunities. There are one or two that I really like, but I'll let you form your own opinions, rather than identifying them. Images at http://jfwaf.com/PDML/ Comments, should you feel so inclined, would be welcome.
Re: PESO - images from NorCal PDML gathering
In a message dated 3/7/2005 12:02:57 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Images at http://jfwaf.com/PDML/ Comments, should you feel so inclined, would be welcome. == I obviously didn't pay you enough. The other photos are nice, though. Marnie aka Doe :-)
Re: NorCal Meeting
On Mar 6, 2005, at 11:25 PM, John Celio wrote: I'm curious where all the digital photos are. The majority of cameras at the gathering were digital. Anyone got some good ones to post? I'm waiting to see who pays up before making the final edit. -Marco
Re: NorCal Meeting
In a message dated 3/7/2005 12:22:03 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm waiting to see who pays up before making the final edit. -Marco == LOL! Marnie aka Doe
Re: NorCal Meeting
Hi, That's pretty much what we did. Godfrey (who suggested the place) is known there. In fact they apparently don't offer the sponge bread platter on Saturdays, but but somebody went out specially to pick up the bread so we could sample the fare. Some of the Ethiopian restaurants here in London have the 'flat bread' (injera) flown in daily from Ethiopia. It's made from a millet-like grain called tef, which is native to Ethiopia, although I think it may be grown in the USA as well and sold through health food stores (it's gluten-free). Here, if you can't get genuine injera the substitute is nowhere near as good as the real thing. Having said that though, there are endless different varieties of it in Ethiopia, and sometimes it's really horrible. I ought to dig out scan some photos of a deacon handing round a particularly dark variety of it to people at a church service as communion bread. I also have some photos of women sitting outside the church during the service, grinding the tef before making the injera. -- Cheers, Bob
Re: Thanks to all
No, you cannot, and you cannot use the car either. - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 2:40 AM Subject: Re: Thanks to all On 6/3/05, Bill Owens, discombobulated, unleashed: My heartfelt thanks to all of you for our concern, encouragement and prayers during my recent hospitalization. The PDML is more and more like a family. Thanks again, Bill BTW dad, can I borrow some money? :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: OT: Any PDMLers in Romania?
How may I help you? Alex Sarbu On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 12:59:34 +1000, Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Help needed.. Cheers, Ryan
RE: M 4/200mm vs F 4-5.6/70-210mm at 200mm
Pentax made very nice, quite famous loupes :-) They ar expensive, thouh. I just use the first wideangle I can find on my shelf. Looking through it reversed gives a great magnification. But sometimes I see the texture in the paper rather than the photograph :-) I'd love to see a test: K 4/200mm vs. M 4/200mm. Anyway, I'm quite surprised that the M 4/200mm seems to perform so well. I actually bought it to sell, but now I believe I'll keep it. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: John Whittingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 6. marts 2005 22:20 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: RE: M 4/200mm vs F 4-5.6/70-210mm at 200mm Congratulation with the K 200mm, John! Quite a bargain! Is it better than the M - or just harder to find? Thanks for posting your results. Thanks Jens, I'm not sure which is the best optically but it'll be interesting to test both some time, perhaps post some results. I never scanned the test shots of the previous test but examined prints under a borrowed loupe, I really need to get a loupe of my own someday but not sure what to buy. I'd like to have the FA 2.8/200mm, which is excellent. But this baby has a list price of 3200 USD here in Denmark, really!! And can be purchased for 1.359 Euro in Germany (which is about half, but still a lot of money) ! I guess I'll nevfer get the FA 2.8 :-) Yes me too, the best I can manage is the FA 135mm f/2.8 (with occasional 1.5x TC attached). I've resigned myself to looking for a Sigma EX 70-200 f/2.8 OR EX 180mm f/3.5 prime, at least I could put my EX converters to more use. But my K 2.8/105mm gives me 2.8/158mm on the *ist D - Brilliant lens! I'll never part with that one. Razor sharp at f2.8! Sounds great, I feel the same way about the 200mm M, I've had it for years and won't part with it even if the K turns out better. John
Re: PESO: This Is Not a Blizzard
Hi, I guess its really what one is used to - here in Sweden we also use headlights during daytime. I really think its the headlights with the woman that brings life into the picture. It really shows what its like in bad weather with some occasional light source needed because its a bit dark in bad weather during winter time. Great Photo frank, Cheers, Ronald It's not the car itself. It's the headlights. For whatever reason, not sure how to explain it, they just don't do it for me. The two little bright spots tend to pull my eye away from the woman. Personal aesthetics, I guess. snip Ah, I getcha now, and I can see yer point. Sometimes these things just distract for some unexplainable reason - kinda like the candy cane sticking out of Dave Brooks' cats ear (in the PAW he just posted). It also may be that the headlights don't bother me because here in Canada, daytime running lights have been the law for 10 years or more, so it would be most peculiar for us to see a car without them on. Or maybe that has nothing to do with it, and it's just a personal thang... vbg Anyway, thanks for your thoughtful comments, Scott, they're really appreciated! cheers, frank
Re: Re: Montreal?
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 15:48:14 -0500, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm about to buy a ticket to Montreal. I have stuff to do on the weekend but I'll be getting in on the 25th with nothing planned until the rest of my party arrives late that night. Any PDML crew up there? CW Geez, I just noticed that you're getting into Montreal on Good Friday? Travelling on the holiday weekend? You there on business or a short hol? (foregive my curiousity, I can't help myself - I'm just thinking that it's a hell of a time to be travelling on business is all...). My brother in law and his partner have just booked flights to Rome for Easter weekend. We'll get accommodation when we're there, he says. I really don't know whether it will be more fun to tell him now or hear the story afterwards... mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: SMC Pentax-FA 35mm f/2 V's Tamron 28-75mm XR Di
JT How is your Tamron at 35 mm and f2.8? If it is okay there, do you need a JT soft f2? When I tried out the FA, it was an excellent lens. The soft might be very relative. It was better than the previous A and M 35mm. the Also, IIRC it is very flare resistant, one of the first Pentax lenses with Ghostless coating. I tested it on film. Good light! fra
Re: SMC Pentax-FA 35mm f/2 V's Tamron 28-75mm XR Di
Hi Joseph I believe Popular Photography tested the FA 35 several years ago -- so along ago that it is not one of the tests posted on their web site. As I recall, and going on others' experiences with the lens, it is a bit soft at f2 but spectacular thereafter -- nearly (but not quite) as good as the FA 31. It is now quite popular as a normal lens for the D or DS. Maybe hard to find too. Yes they tested it, maybe I should order a back copy/reprint. I can cope with the softness wide open, there's probably a little light fall off also but nothing to be concerned over. I believe it's popularity with the DSLR's is what's keeping the prices so high. How is your Tamron at 35 mm and f2.8? If it is okay there, do you need a soft f2? I've not given the Tamron much use yet but expect it will have a serious workout shortly I've got a large amount of group shots to do at work and 35mm might just fit the bill nicely. I'm not really concerned about the faster aperture but can see your point about a soft f/2, image quality is the main aim - I've always liked primes. Other than f2 the FA 35 would almost certainly give superior results, but you might notice them only at extreme enlargement. That Tamron is very good. I think I'll carry on looking, maybe find one at the right price :) Meanwhile I'll run some film past the Tamron. Thanks for the comments. John
Re: Am I mistaken ...
So true John -- Original Message --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Sun, 6 Mar 2005 21:12:32 EST Subject: Re: Am I mistaken ... In a message dated 3/6/2005 1:33:58 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FA primes seem to be well sought after these days, even the 28mm f/2.8 fetches a very good price. John === They just had to come out with a more affordable DSLR. Which they did. Boom! Marnie aka Doe Drat, wish I had waited to sell my Pentax lenses later. --- End of Original Message ---
Re: Re: PESO -- Rock not Roll
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/03/07 Mon AM 05:45:10 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO -- Rock not Roll In a message dated 3/5/2005 7:33:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A little over a yard in diameter. Not all that big as terminal moraine detritus goes. Okay, I'll bite. What is what's its name? A moraine is the line of muck (soil, rocks, etc) that a glacier leaves when it melts. It can either be across the end of the path of the glacier (terminal) or along the course of it (lateral or medial) all of which can be further subdivided. mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: NorCal Meeting
In a message dated 3/7/2005 12:43:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's made from a millet-like grain called tef, which is native to Ethiopia, although I think it may be grown in the USA as well and sold through health food stores (it's gluten-free). Here, if you can't get genuine injera the substitute is nowhere near as good as the real thing. Cheers, Bob === The owner of the restaurant, or the chef, or possibly both, came by and told me (why me, I have no idea) that it was imported. That tef is not grown in the US at all. Actually, at the time, I had no idea what he was talking about and thought maybe he was coughing or something (although I smiled and nodded intelligently). Now I know. Truthfully I found the sponge bread truly weird. Not necessarily bad, but I kept having the feeling I was eating a piece of thin foam -- possibly torn off someone's lawn furniture -- from the padding under the vinyl. Lawn furniture that had been out in the rain, since it didn't have that nice new yellow foam look, but sort of a rotting, too-old, ready-to-fall-apart foam look. Never say I am not a good sport. Especially in the service of a PDML meet. Marnie aka Doe :-)
Re: LCD monitors?
GD Frankly, I'll take their word for it over any ruminations here. GD ;-) Funny. You believe word from Apple that the displays they have made for them are the best? That's not very objective... I agree that the latest high-end LCDs are great, though who has the money for them. Midrange LCDs, not. I would take Eizo over apple anytime, thanks. They are actually producing their stuff. And they include calibration software and hardware with it. And it's the choice in design and graphics. Along with Barco, Sony Artisans and similar. And Eizo have just made an LCD with full AdobeRGB gamut (a CRT with AdobeRGB was by somebody else earlier, so CRTs were more advanced). Though at the price, I will pass... Good light! fra
RE: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues!
Hi Bob, Yes there are 2 versions. The later version is supposedly the same optically as the A 28 and the F 28. Better but still mediocre. The good one is the FA 28 AL, newer still. Don -Original Message- From: Bob Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 12:59 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues! Don, Aren't there 2 versions of this lens. The typical M28/2.8 is cheep and cheerful, but my worst quality Pentax prime lens. The atypical M28/2.8 is a revision with a black rim on a 45 degree slant like the A28/2.8. It was the late production before the switch to the A28/2.8 and is supposed to be better quality. Perhaps this accounts for the price differences. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 08:41:09 -0600, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3879053120 Holy Hoppin Horny Toads! Don
RE: M 4/200mm vs F 4-5.6/70-210mm at 200mm
Pentax made very nice, quite famous loupes :-) They ar expensive, thouh. I just use the first wideangle I can find on my shelf. Looking through it reversed gives a great magnification. Yes expensive for what they are, but I guess there's no point in buying a cheap one. I was thinking of making my own using the front element from a 50mm f/1.7 M (mechanically damaged) and suitable tubing, but I'm not sure that the magnification would be sufficient. I'd love to see a test: K 4/200mm vs. M 4/200mm. Anyway, I'm quite surprised that the M 4/200mm seems to perform so well. I actually bought it to sell, but now I believe I'll keep it. Well worth keeping IMHO. John
Re: Re: Thanks to all
From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/03/07 Mon AM 08:52:57 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Thanks to all No, you cannot, and you cannot use the car either. - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 2:40 AM Subject: Re: Thanks to all On 6/3/05, Bill Owens, discombobulated, unleashed: My heartfelt thanks to all of you for our concern, encouragement and prayers during my recent hospitalization. The PDML is more and more like a family. Thanks again, Bill BTW dad, can I borrow some money? Didn't work a lick, again, Cotty? Eddie - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: PESO the foot
Nice shot. And, yes, it's very cute. Paul On Mar 6, 2005, at 11:28 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: Warning: Cute! http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3175946 Critiques are welcome, of course. -- Scott Loveless Born free. Taxed to death.
Re: LCD monitors?
You can use the Apple Cinema Display on any PC with the correct video card. On Mar 6, 2005, at 11:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/6/2005 7:39:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The guys on the ColorSync team and in the hardware development lab at Apple all agree that the latest flat panel display have more gamut and more adjustability than all but the very best CRTs. The Apple Cinema Display 20 (and the iMac 20 which uses the same display panel) is in the generation of flat panels that surpassed CRTs on the test bench. Everything later than those produced by Apple are at least to those standards. Frankly, I'll take their word for it over any ruminations here. ;-) Godfrey = Okay, but that's Apple/Mac. Hehehehe. Marnie aka Doe
Re: LCD monitors?
DP-2070SB. it shows up refurbished sometimes on PC Connection for around $900. you probably won't find it except mail-order. to get compable quality from a LCD at the same size, you will need to pay 2-3 times more. Herb... - Original Message - From: Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 11:05 PM Subject: RE: LCD monitors? Which one? I tried looking for a 19 Mitsubishi CRT today and all I could find was NEC ones that got awful ratings from users.
Sunday photographer Just to be contrary
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-mar-05.shtml Interestng conclusions. And information that new Nikon F6 sells very well is surprising too. Apparently there are a lot of people still using film for PRO work too (Natoinal Geographic should be a good example)... -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
RE: Some panoramas published
Jens, all your pictures come out well in this PDF print. Didn't read the whole report though... Henk -Original Message- From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 March, 2005 7:22 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Some panoramas published In an amendment to the current Copenhagen Region Plan used 4 of my panoramas, including the front page (part of a panorama), was published: http://www.hur.dk/545A23A1-13D2-4C0D-8658-687F449BDBC3 be patient; 3.9MB Lok at: The front page, Page 8-9, 10-11, 12-14, 15-16. All, but one, done with Pentax *ist D and M or K lenses. The one with the buildings was done ewith a Tokina AT-X 2.6-2.8/28-70mm. Cheers Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -
Re: PESO - images from NorCal PDML gathering
Thanks for posting these, John. Some very nice shots. Love those red berries, and the courtyard with the shadow of the palm in the foreground. Paul On Mar 7, 2005, at 3:01 AM, John Francis wrote: John Celio mused: P.S.: I shot entirely on film, which should be developed tomorrow or the next day, but I'm curious where all the digital photos are. The majority of cameras at the gathering were digital. Anyone got some good ones to post? Even with digital, it takes a little while to proof-and-print :-) Here's several of my images, just to give a feel for what I found. Not all of them are technically all that great, but I thought I'd put up more than usual so we can compare how others saw the same opportunities. There are one or two that I really like, but I'll let you form your own opinions, rather than identifying them. Images at http://jfwaf.com/PDML/ Comments, should you feel so inclined, would be welcome.
Re: NorCal Meeting
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who was it that said, the only thing worse than being talked about is ~not~ being talked about? Oscar Wilde. Right before he said Your majesty is like a big jam doughnut with cream on top. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues!
It was the late production before the switch to the A28/2.8 and is supposed to be better quality. But the A 28/2.8 is not exactly spectacular, either, is it? Fred
Re: LCD monitors?
apple 23 is the same as sony 23. and both are platform (mac/pc) agnostic. best, mishka Okay, but that's Apple/Mac. Hehehehe. Marnie aka Doe
Re: The istD: Report From a First Time User (LONG)
Thanks for the report Shel. Looking forward to your comments re lens performance and the long-awaited Enablement post I have thought inevitable for you over the past 2-3 months :-) Kostas
Re: M 4/200mm vs F 4-5.6/70-210mm at 200mm
JW Yes expensive for what they are, but I guess there's no point in buying a JW cheap one. I was thinking of making my own using the front element from a JW 50mm f/1.7 M (mechanically damaged) and suitable tubing, but I'm not sure that JW the magnification would be sufficient. 50mm lens is quite ok as a loupe. It allows you to see the whole negate/slide at once, unlike shorter lenses. Taking the front element? Why? You would probably end with extremely low power loupe with a lot of spherical and chromatic aberations. Just use the whole lens - that's what it was corrected for, after all! camera lenses make highly corrected loupes. However, you need at least 1.4 aperture to be able to see a whole 35mm frame at once. With 1.7, you won't be able to see it all. Good light! fra
Re: The istD: Report From a First Time User (LONG)
Bruce saved my pics on his portable hard drive and will transfer them to DVD or CD and send 'em back to me. It's just like waiting to get prints back from the lab with a film camera LOL LOL Fred
Re: The istD: Report From a First Time User (LONG)
On Mar 7, 2005, at 2:45 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: .And it can be operated with one hand as the aperture and shutter speed controls are quite easy to use - they're laid out so that my fingers fell readily in place to use them. This brought a smile to my face. During my walkarounds, I frequently shoot with one hand while carrying a cup of coffee in the other. (I do keep the strap around my neck.) I always feel a bit guilty, as though I'm not really putting much effort into my photography, but it is quite easy to shoot one-handed with the *istD. Paul
Re: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues!
- Original Message - From: Fred Subject: Re: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues! It was the late production before the switch to the A28/2.8 and is supposed to be better quality. But the A 28/2.8 is not exactly spectacular, either, is it? Not spectacular compared to the best of what is out there, but... I have used both M and A versions of the 28/2.8, and they turn out perfectly acceptable pictures. William Robb
Re: Some panoramas published
G'day Jens, Nice pictures. I can't read a word of it though :-) Did you get any written credit for the images? Dave S On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 19:22:11 +0100, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In an amendment to the current Copenhagen Region Plan used 4 of my panoramas, including the front page (part of a panorama), was published: http://www.hur.dk/545A23A1-13D2-4C0D-8658-687F449BDBC3 be patient; 3.9MB Lok at: The front page, Page 8-9, 10-11, 12-14, 15-16. All, but one, done with Pentax *ist D and M or K lenses. The one with the buildings was done ewith a Tokina AT-X 2.6-2.8/28-70mm. Cheers Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 6. marts 2005 17:10 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: M 4/200mm vs F 4-5.6/70-210mm at 200mm I took a few test shots today. To see how the SMC-M 4/200mm is doing. Not so bad - compared to the SMC F 4-5.6/70-210mm. I think the prime is the sharper lens of the two. Both photographs shot at f 5.6 and app. 1/2000 sec. handheld. No editing except autolevels and very little cropping (almost the full frames). See for yourself: http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p12447314.html Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
Re: PESO the foot
Thanks for all the wonderful feedback. This photograph was made by trying to focus on my daughter's foot at she was swinging back and forth in a porch swing. I was also using HP5+, which was very new to me at the time. This is not one of my favorites, but is the best of several taken at that time. On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 00:30:36 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Awww. Actually, I find the arm distracting. I'd like it more blurred. Well, that's my critique. ;-) Agreed. The bokeh is not what I was attempting. On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 00:20:17 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Little feet are always cute to peek at. One thing on this one is that the foot seems to blend just a bit too much with the surroundings. There needs to be some way to make it show up a little better. Colour, maybe? I think a little more contrast, or a narrower depth of field. Maybe TriX instead of HP5+. Color would work. I always have problems finding a color film that produces skin tones I can live with, though. Kodak's High Definition 400 seems to be the best of the drug store varieties. I've used Portra 160NC in 120 format and have had decent results. Other than those, I've not been very happy with my color photos of people. Baby parts are always cute, regardless of the quality of the photo (as witnessed here). I suppose I was a bit unfair with the warning. Regardless, thank you all so very much for the critiques. I appreciate the time you've taken. -- Scott Loveless Born free. Taxed to death.
Re: The istD: Report From a First Time User (LONG)
On 6 Mar 2005 at 23:45, Shel Belinkoff wrote: There's a small lip on the card that you can catch with a fingernail, and, as has been said here many times, Bob's your uncle. As has been said here many times before many cards don't feature this lip and not all cards just slip out. There have been numerous complaints (often by those who have never used the camera) that working with pre A series manual lenses would be difficult, and that such use is not intuitive, fast, seamless, or whatever other negative fantasy might gush forth from those ignorant in the ways of the Green Button. It took all of 30 seconds to master the concept, and but a few shots to become reasonably proficient with the technique. Using early manual focus lenses is a piece of cake, and anyone who condemns the method used for so doing, or condemns Pentax for offering a crippled camera that is not completely backwards compatible is just makin' noise. I'm glad you found it so intuitive, thanks for the lesson. Rob (who shot over 1000 images using his *ist D in the last week and still finds the lack of aperture coupler and removing CF cards a PITA)
Re: Sunday photographer Just to be contrary
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 12:45:46 +0100, Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-mar-05.shtml Interestng conclusions. And information that new Nikon F6 sells very well is surprising too. Apparently there are a lot of people still using film for PRO work too (Natoinal Geographic should be a good example)... From the article: Lord, I don't think I have the strength to face a world without Leica I'm just now getting used to a world without Deardorff! This is off topic, but for those of you with an interest in large format, Mr. Deardorff is once again making view cameras under the name J. Deardorff Photographic Products Intl., or DPPI. I have a scan of the catalog that was presented recently by the man himself. It's a VERY LARGE file (~12MB) for only 37 pages. If anyone wants a copy, I'll be happy to post it at my personal site for download. Perhaps someone with a copy of Acrobat would be willing to resize it? -- Scott Loveless Born free. Taxed to death.
Re: The istD: Report From a First Time User (LONG)
On 7/3/05, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: This brought a smile to my face. During my walkarounds, I frequently shoot with one hand while carrying a cup of coffee in the other. (I do keep the strap around my neck.) I always feel a bit guilty, as though I'm not really putting much effort into my photography, but it is quite easy to shoot one-handed with the *istD. yeah I've seen Jostein do this (sans coffee) - I tried to but my other arm kept raising in sympathy. I think they must be slaved or something Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
USB cable
Is there anything special about the USB cable that comes with the *istD? I have bought a second cable from a third party source, to use with a second computer, but the camera and the computer never recognize each other. Do I have to get a Pentax brand cable? This is the cable I bought: http://www.deltaco.se/images/usb-503.jpg anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/ med dagens bild och allt!
Re: USB cable
According to Pentax, the interface is USB 1.1. This is a standard and shouldn't need a Pentax branded camera. Try both cables on both computers. If the new cable doesn't work on either and the Pentax cable works on both, you've probably got a bad cable. Take it back for an exchange. -- Scott Loveless Born free. Taxed to death.
Re: USB cable
shouldn't need a Pentax branded *camera*. Should read cable. Sorry about the typo. On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 08:55:15 -0500, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to Pentax, the interface is USB 1.1. This is a standard and shouldn't need a Pentax branded camera. Try both cables on both computers. If the new cable doesn't work on either and the Pentax cable works on both, you've probably got a bad cable. Take it back for an exchange. -- Scott Loveless Born free. Taxed to death. -- Scott Loveless Born free. Taxed to death.
Re: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues!
Not spectacular compared to the best of what is out there, but... I have used both M and A versions of the 28/2.8, and they turn out perfectly acceptable pictures. I quite like the FA 28mm f/2.8 despite a little vignetting. John
Re: M 4/200mm vs F 4-5.6/70-210mm at 200mm
50mm lens is quite ok as a loupe. It allows you to see the whole negate/slide at once, unlike shorter lenses. Taking the front element? Why? You would probably end with extremely low power loupe with a lot of spherical and chromatic aberations. Just use the whole lens - that's what it was corrected for, after all! camera lenses make highly corrected loupes. However, you need at least 1.4 aperture to be able to see a whole 35mm frame at once. With 1.7, you won't be able to see it all. Thanks for the info, I can't see me using an f/1.4 though - little expensive :) Any idea of the magnification using the full lens? John
Re: USB cable
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, Scott Loveless wrote: According to Pentax, the interface is USB 1.1. This is a standard and shouldn't need a Pentax branded camera. It's standard USB at the computer end, but I wasn't sure that it was standard at the camera end as well. All those different B connectors... Try both cables on both computers. If the new cable doesn't work on either and the Pentax cable works on both, Yes, that's the case. you've probably got a bad cable. Take it back for an exchange. Ok, I'll do that. Just wanted to check first if I've missed something. anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/ med dagens bild och allt!
eBay Scamming - a good read
I didn't mark this as OT, as most here use eBay. This is a bloody good read - go here: http://pages.sbcglobal.net/dumbmrblah/Scamming%20the%20Scammer.htm and download the PDF and read at your leisure. Very funny, and very relevant Best, Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Groovless CDs?
Last pack of CDs I purchased (Memorex Cool Colors) contains discs with no grooves. No radiating groove reflections I am used to seeing. Does anyone know if this is something new/old or a manufacturing blunder? Burned one disc which reproduced a normal looking image. Thanks, Jack __ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/
Re: LCD monitors?
--- David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Cinema Display 20 (and various other Apple monitors) are easily usable with a PC as well, Marnie. Only the new ones - the previous models used ADC connectors. Just in case everyone was rushing off to eBay :) Older models required an interface adapter and power supply, that's all. Godfrey __ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/
Re: The istD: Report From a First Time User (LONG)
fra: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 7/3/05, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: This brought a smile to my face. During my walkarounds, I frequently shoot with one hand while carrying a cup of coffee in the other. (I do keep the strap around my neck.) I always feel a bit guilty, as though I'm not really putting much effort into my photography, but it is quite easy to shoot one-handed with the *istD. yeah I've seen Jostein do this (sans coffee) - I tried to but my other arm kept raising in sympathy. I think they must be slaved or something The weight and size of you Canon camera makes it necessary... DagT
Re: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues!
[the second M 28/2.8] was the late production before the switch to the A28/2.8 and is supposed to be better quality. But the A 28/2.8 is not exactly spectacular, either, is it? Not spectacular compared to the best of what is out there, but... I have used both M and A versions of the 28/2.8, and they turn out perfectly acceptable pictures. I understand. However, in the context of this thread (where an M 28/2.8 was won on eBay for an astronomical price), perfectly acceptable pictures can be had with a lot of pretty pedestrian 28mm lenses under a lot of conditions. I was just suggesting that any not exactly spectacular lens would not be worth spending the proverbial arm-and-a-leg for, that's all. (Keep in mind that my own personal opinion is that Pentax made very, very few K, M, and A lenses that it could not be proud of.) A few years ago I had been in the process of assembling a small manual focus kit of used but minty Pentax gear (centered on a nice Super Program) for a niece of mine. I was trying to use only A lenses (so that she - a photo neophyte - could start out shooting in Program mode). I picked up an A 28/2.8 at a pretty good price, and I (naturally) had to play around with it (for quality control testing purposes, mind you - g) before passing the kit on to my niece. My impression of the lens was that it was certainly decent enough (for perfectly acceptable pictures), and I am sure was entirely adequate for the w/a lens in that kit. I quite like the FA 28mm f/2.8 despite a little vignetting. Sure. My A 28/2 vignettes a bit at full aperture, too. (I am not sure how much of this is due to what I would call true vignetting, where the corners are darkened due to the lens construction, or light falloff, which is due entirely to just the optical design, but that's another question.) Fred
Re: The istD: Report From a First Time User (LONG)
This brought a smile to my face. During my walkarounds, I frequently shoot with one hand while carrying a cup of coffee in the other. (I do keep the strap around my neck.) I always feel a bit guilty, as though I'm not really putting much effort into my photography, but it is quite easy to shoot one-handed with the *istD. yeah I've seen Jostein do this (sans coffee) - I tried to but my other arm kept raising in sympathy. I think they must be slaved or something The weight and size of you Canon camera makes it necessary... Fell on my own sword! Har! Thanks Dag Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: The istD: Report From a First Time User (LONG)
Hmmm. All my CF cards -- five in total -- are easy to insert and remove. I'm quite comfortable metering with K and M lenses as well. I don't really think about it. But I use K lenses quite frequently. Paul On 6 Mar 2005 at 23:45, Shel Belinkoff wrote: There's a small lip on the card that you can catch with a fingernail, and, as has been said here many times, Bob's your uncle. As has been said here many times before many cards don't feature this lip and not all cards just slip out. There have been numerous complaints (often by those who have never used the camera) that working with pre A series manual lenses would be difficult, and that such use is not intuitive, fast, seamless, or whatever other negative fantasy might gush forth from those ignorant in the ways of the Green Button. It took all of 30 seconds to master the concept, and but a few shots to become reasonably proficient with the technique. Using early manual focus lenses is a piece of cake, and anyone who condemns the method used for so doing, or condemns Pentax for offering a crippled camera that is not completely backwards compatible is just makin' noise. I'm glad you found it so intuitive, thanks for the lesson. Rob (who shot over 1000 images using his *ist D in the last week and still finds the lack of aperture coupler and removing CF cards a PITA)
Re: The istD: Report From a First Time User (LONG)
Snipped stuff from Shel Yesterday at the NorCal gathering, Bruce was kind enough to let me use one of his istD cameras. This is the first time I've had a chance to hold and use the camera and get familiar with it. LOL Im anxious to see the results of the experiments and what can be done with the over and under exposed RAW files. Shel Thanks for the report Shel. Although you dont have to sell moi on this camera,maybe it will help in swaying those still on the fence. I'm glad you made mention of the crippled aspect of the istD. I have used M and A and FA lenses with good results so far. The only thing i have yet to try are my M42 mounts. Soon.:-) Having been used to the Nikon DSLR's it didi not take to long to set up the menus for my use. Its a neat little camera and its serving my purpose fine,as a walk about digital. Also still need a bit more flash testing to see whats best with the af280t. Dave Brooks
Re: SMC Pentax-FA 35mm f/2 V's Tamron 28-75mm XR Di
The FA35/2 is a more compact and lighter lens to work with than the Tamron 28-75/2.8. That could also make a difference in your photography, even if it is optically the same as the Tamron. Godfrey __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: eBay Scamming - a good read
Damn.. I want to know how this turned out :) We know the scammer got the goods and paid taxes but then that's it - the story ends just like that. But definitely a good read - and it does look to be valid too :) Thanks for sharing Cotty :) Dave Original Message: - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 14:13:35 + To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: eBay Scamming - a good read I didn't mark this as OT, as most here use eBay. This is a bloody good read - go here: http://pages.sbcglobal.net/dumbmrblah/Scamming%20the%20Scammer.htm and download the PDF and read at your leisure. Very funny, and very relevant Best, Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
Re: eBay Scamming - a good read
ROTFLMAO That was great. Thanks Cotty On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 14:13:35 +, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't mark this as OT, as most here use eBay. This is a bloody good read - go here: http://pages.sbcglobal.net/dumbmrblah/Scamming%20the%20Scammer.htm and download the PDF and read at your leisure. Very funny, and very relevant Best, Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Groovless CDs?
Monday, March 7, 2005, 3:21:45 PM, Jack wrote: JD Last pack of CDs I purchased (Memorex Cool Colors) JD contains discs with no grooves. No radiating groove Wait, where does the needle ride then? Is it 33RPM or another speed? (couldn't resist g) Good light! fra
Re: This Is Not a Blizzard
--- From: frank theriault http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3173937size=lg Just catching up ... I like this, I remember days like that when I lived in New York an eon ago. Well caught! Godfrey __ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/
Re: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues!
(Keep in mind that my own personal opinion is that Pentax made very, very few K, M, and A lenses that it could not be proud of.) I should translate that for our ~British~ anglophones - (Keep in mind that my own personal opinion is that Pentax made very, very few K, M, and A lenses that they could not be proud of.) ;-) Fred
Re: PESO: This Is Not a Blizzard
frank theriault wrote on 3/6/2005, 10:51 AM: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3173937size=lg Nice one frank. Really, nice one. -- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: eBay Scamming - a good read
lol! It's called scambaiting, Cotty- this whole community: http://419eater.com/ is dedicated to it! I read the pdf though. Great stuff, but I was hoping they had a picture of the scammers face at the end! Anticlimax.. :) Cheers, Ryan - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 12:13 AM Subject: eBay Scamming - a good read I didn't mark this as OT, as most here use eBay. This is a bloody good read - go here: http://pages.sbcglobal.net/dumbmrblah/Scamming%20the%20Scammer.htm and download the PDF and read at your leisure. Very funny, and very relevant Best, Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: The istD: Report From a First Time User (LONG)
Hi Rob ... Not trying to give anyone a lesson, just sharing my feelings and experience. Others may not have the same experiences, or have different priorities as to what's important, and so on. Before trying the camera I thought I'd miss the aperture coupling, and using the lens aperture ring, but while using the camera that thought never even crossed my mind, and didn't until I read your comment below. Of course, that may in part be because of how I most often use my manual cameras, where I set aperture and then use my finger to spin the shutter speed wheels, rarely changing aperture unless I want a specific effect. Shel [Original Message] From: Rob Studdert I'm glad you found it so intuitive, thanks for the lesson. Rob (who shot over 1000 images using his *ist D in the last week and still finds the lack of aperture coupler and removing CF cards a PITA)
Re: The istD: Report From a First Time User (LONG)
Never saw your post Paul except as embedded in Cotty's comment. I shoot one handed at times with the Leicas and the MX, and did it a lot in my early days when using a Spottie. The technique works even better with a wrist strap. Shel On 7/3/05, Paul Stenquist This brought a smile to my face. During my walkarounds, I frequently shoot with one hand while carrying a cup of coffee in the other. (I do keep the strap around my neck.) I always feel a bit guilty, as though I'm not really putting much effort into my photography, but it is quite easy to shoot one-handed with the *istD.
Re: SMC Pentax-FA 35mm f/2 V's Tamron 28-75mm XR Di
The FA35/2 is a more compact and lighter lens to work with than the Tamron 28-75/2.8. That could also make a difference in your photography, even if it is optically the same as the Tamron. Yes, unobtrusive as well, especially in crowded places. I love the perspective that the 35mm FL gives. John
OptioX
Howdy! I'm actually posting on-topic for once! Wife and I are currently in the market for a digicam. Here are the requirements: Waist level viewing One handed shooting (My wife has a very small stature.) printable to at least 5*7 wide angle to short tele zoom Under $1000 USD. Preferably, well under. I've tried the Sony 828, which I really like. But it's a bit big for one handed shooting. We're currently toying with the idea of ordering an OptioX from BH, but are reluctant since we've never actually held one. The specs look good, but we've failed to find one locally. Anyone have any experience with this camera? -- Scott Loveless Born free. Taxed to death.
Re: Sunday photographer Just to be contrary
SL the catalog that was presented recently by the man himself. It's a SL VERY LARGE file (~12MB) for only 37 pages. If anyone wants a copy, SL I'll be happy to post it at my personal site for download. Perhaps SL someone with a copy of Acrobat would be willing to resize it? Hi Scott, you can use the Ghostscript (free Postscript) from Unix (also for Windooze and Macs) with a GS/PDF viewer/converter to downsample or extract the pages. Or I can do it, if you send me the link. Best thing is that Ghostscript is free... It probably has too large images which could be safely compressed and downsampled to screen resolution for screen viewing only. Good light! fra
Re: M 4/200mm vs F 4-5.6/70-210mm at 200mm
JW Thanks for the info, I can't see me using an f/1.4 though - little JW expensive :) Any idea of the magnification using the full lens? IIRC the formula is M = 250 / f where M is magnification and f is focal length. Thus a 50mm lens would be a 5x loupe. Good light! fra
Re: M 4/200mm vs F 4-5.6/70-210mm at 200mm
Many thanks. John -- Original Message --- From: Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Whittingham pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 16:51:03 +0100 Subject: Re: M 4/200mm vs F 4-5.6/70-210mm at 200mm JW Thanks for the info, I can't see me using an f/1.4 though - little JW expensive :) Any idea of the magnification using the full lens? IIRC the formula is M = 250 / f where M is magnification and f is focal length. Thus a 50mm lens would be a 5x loupe. Good light! fra --- End of Original Message ---
Re: M 4/200mm vs F 4-5.6/70-210mm at 200mm
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, Frantisek wrote: JW Thanks for the info, I can't see me using an f/1.4 though - little JW expensive :) Any idea of the magnification using the full lens? IIRC the formula is M = 250 / f where M is magnification and f is focal length. Thus a 50mm lens would be a 5x loupe. Where does the aperture come into play in this? K
Spotmatic photos
Hi: Dipping into my old slides from the 60s'... here's some shot with my Spotmatic in Berkeley. People's Park, etc. http://209.197.89.228/Berkeley/ Vivitar Zoom and a 50mm super Takumar. Jim
Re: NorCal Meeting
Hmmm ... I counted five film cameras and five digi cameras. Shel [Original Message] From: John Celio P.S.: I shot entirely on film, which should be developed tomorrow or the next day, but I'm curious where all the digital photos are. The majority of cameras at the gathering were digital. Anyone got some good ones to post?
Re: M 4/200mm vs F 4-5.6/70-210mm at 200mm
Where does the aperture come into play in this? It doesn't, needs to be used wide open. John -- Original Message --- From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Whittingham pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 16:00:48 + (GMT) Subject: Re: M 4/200mm vs F 4-5.6/70-210mm at 200mm On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, Frantisek wrote: JW Thanks for the info, I can't see me using an f/1.4 though - little JW expensive :) Any idea of the magnification using the full lens? IIRC the formula is M = 250 / f where M is magnification and f is focal length. Thus a 50mm lens would be a 5x loupe. Where does the aperture come into play in this? K --- End of Original Message ---
Re: NorCal Meeting
In a message dated 3/7/2005 8:10:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmmm ... I counted five film cameras and five digi cameras. Shel = Well, it seems my ImageTank just went belly up (the screen is lit, but there is no information on it), so that means all my photos up until the Japanese Garden are lost. I must say the ImageTank is one of the worst purchase I have ever made. (I am thinking of taking it to a computer shop that recovers information from damaged hard drives, since basically it is the same thing. Or I might let it go, none of my photos were that great.) This is about only the fourth time I have used it. (Actually, I may unscrew the cover myself.) :-( I have a few photos from the Japanese Gardens which I will post later, though. But nothing great. Marnie aka Doe
Re: The istD: Report From a First Time User (LONG)
No way to be enabled until I've used the camera and seen some results ;-)) Shel [Original Message] From: Kostas Kavoussanakis Thanks for the report Shel. Looking forward to your comments re lens performance and the long-awaited Enablement post I have thought inevitable for you over the past 2-3 months :-)
Re: NorCal Meeting
Aren't there some recovery programs you could try? Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, it seems my ImageTank just went belly up (the screen is lit, but there is no information on it), so that means all my photos up until the Japanese Garden are lost. I must say the ImageTank is one of the worst purchase I have ever made. (I am thinking of taking it to a computer shop that recovers information from damaged hard drives, since basically it is the same thing. Or I might let it go, none of my photos were that great.) This is about only the fourth time I have used it. (Actually, I may unscrew the cover myself.)
Re: Groovless CDs?
Frantisek, Thought I was the only lister old enough to know about needles riding grooves. Jack --- Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Monday, March 7, 2005, 3:21:45 PM, Jack wrote: JD Last pack of CDs I purchased (Memorex Cool Colors) JD contains discs with no grooves. No radiating groove Wait, where does the needle ride then? Is it 33RPM or another speed? (couldn't resist g) Good light! fra __ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/
Re: Sunday photographer Just to be contrary
No surprise that the F6 is selling well. Most of the problem with camera sales was not digital cameras, but the world economic conditions. But things are on the rise again now. I'vw mentioned an 11 year economic cycle many times, and no one listens. I find it strange that none of the so-called economists mention it. Of course I have only lived through six of them: 1948, 1959, 1970, 1981, 1992, and 2003 being the bottoms of the cycle, so maybe my sample is not large enough. Major wars seem to modify that cycle. The bottom was mild in the US in 1970 when the government was spending billions on the VietNam war. And WWII held things off for about 4 years, the bottom of the cycle prior to '48 being 1933. Taking that 4 year slip into account I can find references that show the cycle holds back to 1900. Next bottom 2014; expect the economy to start an obvious down trend about 2010 with a possible sudden drop in the stock market a year or too befor that. Stock market crashes seem to happen at the top of the cycle. People blame them for the following depression, but the depression is going to hit reguardless of that. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Scott Loveless wrote: On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 12:45:46 +0100, Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-mar-05.shtml Interestng conclusions. And information that new Nikon F6 sells very well is surprising too. Apparently there are a lot of people still using film for PRO work too (Natoinal Geographic should be a good example)... From the article: Lord, I don't think I have the strength to face a world without Leica I'm just now getting used to a world without Deardorff! This is off topic, but for those of you with an interest in large format, Mr. Deardorff is once again making view cameras under the name J. Deardorff Photographic Products Intl., or DPPI. I have a scan of the catalog that was presented recently by the man himself. It's a VERY LARGE file (~12MB) for only 37 pages. If anyone wants a copy, I'll be happy to post it at my personal site for download. Perhaps someone with a copy of Acrobat would be willing to resize it? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/2005
*ist-D discovery??
I haven't been able to find this documented anywhere and I don't remember reading this on the list so maybe I'm the first here to figure this out. * Put an M or K class lens on your *ist-D * Set the mode selector to M * Switch on the camera. * Stop down the aperture (The meter stays on). * Adjust the Aperture ring (No surprise the exposure indicator displays the change). * Adjust the Aperture Wheel... (The shutter speed changes!) It would be a PITA to use full stop down metering mode if you had to change the shutter speed with the front hand grip wheel, Pentax cleverly changed the function of the rear wheel to modify shutter speed in this mode! It makes stop down metering almost a joy to use. -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues!
But would you pay $400 US for one? That was the question. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Fred Subject: Re: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues! It was the late production before the switch to the A28/2.8 and is supposed to be better quality. But the A 28/2.8 is not exactly spectacular, either, is it? Not spectacular compared to the best of what is out there, but... I have used both M and A versions of the 28/2.8, and they turn out perfectly acceptable pictures. William Robb -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: Groovless CDs?
Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Monday, March 7, 2005, 3:21:45 PM, Jack wrote: JD Last pack of CDs I purchased (Memorex Cool Colors) JD contains discs with no grooves. No radiating groove Wait, where does the needle ride then? Is it 33RPM or another speed? Frantisek, Thought I was the only lister old enough to know about needles riding grooves. #blink# How else would one properly listen to _Frampton_Comes_Alive_ or catch the back-masking on the 'White Album'[*]? (And then there's the intentional skip at the end of (Your Love Is Like) Nuclear Waste so that the explosion goes on forever. And the Monty Python album that had two grooves on one side, making essentially a three-sided LP. And the really old _record_albums_ that were actually albums of records: books of sleeves holding 78s. But I haven't played with wax cylinders myself, only the flat media, 'cause I'm just a young 'un WRT recording technology. (I'll pretend for a moment not to know how old player-piano rolls are.)) -- Glenn [*] AFAIK, The White Album is a nickname, not the actual title, so I didn't underline it. But I figured if I had called it _The_Beatles_ (I think that's the title), folks wouldn't have been sure what I meant. Then again, I could be wrong about the title...
What do you call those devices ...
... that you download your memory cards to? They're storage devices that have small hard drives or electronics in them to take the images for later xfer to the computer for processing. Shel
Re: Spotmatic photos
Lots of fun. Thanks for posting these. Paul Hi: Dipping into my old slides from the 60s'... here's some shot with my Spotmatic in Berkeley. People's Park, etc. http://209.197.89.228/Berkeley/ Vivitar Zoom and a 50mm super Takumar. Jim
Re: NorCal Meeting
In a message dated 3/7/2005 8:23:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Aren't there some recovery programs you could try? Shel I am sure the images are okay. It's the menus that aren't working and it won't turn off when I push the on/off button. I have it hooked up to the computer through the USB slot, because that is the only way I can get it to turn off. So it's a matter of getting at the hard disk without going through their system. I don't think I can do that myself. Unless I open it and find some way to get at it, but I doubt it. I am thinking of writing the manufacturer and complaining. Not that it will do any good. It's been over six months since I bought it, I just haven't used it that often. I could tell them I am bad mouthing them to a whole group of photographers, though. Hehehe. Marnie aka Doe
Re: USB cable
Fanaticism=on What do you mean you don't need a Pentax branded camera, of course you need a Pentax branded camera everyone needs a Pentax branded camera, and while you're at it buy one for each of your kids, your dog(s) and/or cat(s) and one for each and every one of your goldfish if you have them! /Fanaticism Scott Loveless wrote: shouldn't need a Pentax branded *camera*. Should read cable. Sorry about the typo. On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 08:55:15 -0500, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to Pentax, the interface is USB 1.1. This is a standard and shouldn't need a Pentax branded camera. Try both cables on both computers. If the new cable doesn't work on either and the Pentax cable works on both, you've probably got a bad cable. Take it back for an exchange. -- Scott Loveless Born free. Taxed to death. -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: What do you call those devices ...
I call mine an i-book laptop g. However, a lot of people use portable hard drives of one type or another. For serious shoots, I prefer to have a laptop so I can check results if I so choose. For photo fun, a handful of CF cards is enough for me. Paul ... that you download your memory cards to? They're storage devices that have small hard drives or electronics in them to take the images for later xfer to the computer for processing. Shel
Re: What do you call those devices ...
In a message dated 3/7/2005 9:02:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... that you download your memory cards to? They're storage devices that have small hard drives or electronics in them to take the images for later xfer to the computer for processing. Shel = There is no generic name them, there should be, but there isn't. Image tank is used generically sometimes, but basically you have to search by manufacturer brand name: FlashTrax, P-2000, etc. Definitely don't get the actual ImageTank. Storage devices are how they are classified at photography sites, but at other sites that can mean anything. Marnie aka Doe :-(
Re: The istD: Report From a First Time User (LONG)
Rob Studdert wrote: On 6 Mar 2005 at 23:45, Shel Belinkoff wrote: snip reasonably proficient with the technique. Using early manual focus lenses is a piece of cake, and anyone who condemns the method used for so doing, or condemns Pentax for offering a crippled camera that is not completely backwards compatible is just makin' noise. I'm glad you found it so intuitive, thanks for the lesson. Rob (who shot over 1000 images using his *ist D in the last week and still finds the lack of aperture coupler and removing CF cards a PITA) Me too. (Though it's better than the alternative). -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: What do you call those devices ...
Yeah ...the little portable hard drives that have slots for memory cards ... what are they called, what's the name for the product? I want to search for various such devices. Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] However, a lot of people use portable hard drives of one type or another. For serious shoots, I prefer to have a laptop so I can check results if I so choose. For photo fun, a handful of CF cards is enough for me. Paul ... that you download your memory cards to? They're storage devices that have small hard drives or electronics in them to take the images for later xfer to the computer for processing. Shel
RE: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues!
John the M, A and F share an optical formula. The FA is a different formula, Aspherical lens. I've found it better than the rest also. Don -Original Message- From: John Whittingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 7:54 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues! snip I quite like the FA 28mm f/2.8 despite a little vignetting. John
Re: What do you call those devices ...
On 7/3/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: ... that you download your memory cards to? They're storage devices that have small hard drives or electronics in them to take the images for later xfer to the computer for processing. They're called storage devices that have small hard drives or electronics in them to take the images for later xfer to the computer for processing. Sorry mate, couldn't resist :-) Seriously, I don't think anyone has come up with a decent generic name for them. Epson's is just referred to as a 'Mutlimedia Storage Viewer Reviewer' which is really catchy, you'll agree... http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/epsonp2000/ or how about the Nixvue Vista: a ''portable image storage and playback device' http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nixvuevista/ If I go out shooting and don't take my Powerbook with me, then I will just take extra cards (1 x 2 GB, 2 x 512MB) and be done with it. If I am travelling away from home shooting, then the Powerbook comaes with me so i guess you could say that it becomes a 'Slightly Less Portable Image Viewer And Storage Device But Allows Me To Get My Emails And Listen To Music and Loads Of Neat Stuff As Well'... There *must* be a quick and easy generic name for these things Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: NorCal Meeting
On 7/3/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: I am sure the images are okay. It's the menus that aren't working and it won't turn off when I push the on/off button. I have it hooked up to the computer through the USB slot, because that is the only way I can get it to turn off. Surely if you can hook up via USB, then can you mount the device on your desktop (or whatever the process is called on a PC) and access the hard drive that way? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: What do you call those devices ...
In a message dated 3/7/2005 9:12:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah ...the little portable hard drives that have slots for memory cards ... what are they called, what's the name for the product? I want to search for various such devices. Shel == See my previous post, there is no generic name. Marnie
Re: NorCal Meeting
In a message dated 3/7/2005 9:17:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Surely if you can hook up via USB, then can you mount the device on your desktop (or whatever the process is called on a PC) and access the hard drive that way? Cheers, Cotty == Not when it doesn't show up on the PC as a connected device and the menus on the ImageTank don't work. I've written JOBO a complaint letter and mentioned I am bad mouthing them to a lot of photographers. ;-) We shall see what happens. Fingers crossed. Marnie
Re: NorCal Meeting
It depends on why it's cooked. If there's a problem in the electronics of the hard drive itself there's no way any software alone will recover data. Shel Belinkoff wrote: Aren't there some recovery programs you could try? Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, it seems my ImageTank just went belly up (the screen is lit, but there is no information on it), so that means all my photos up until the Japanese Garden are lost. I must say the ImageTank is one of the worst purchase I have ever made. (I am thinking of taking it to a computer shop that recovers information from damaged hard drives, since basically it is the same thing. Or I might let it go, none of my photos were that great.) This is about only the fourth time I have used it. (Actually, I may unscrew the cover myself.) -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: What do you call those devices ...
On 7/3/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: ... that you download your memory cards to? They're storage devices that have small hard drives or electronics in them to take the images for later xfer to the computer for processing. Ahh, how about 'Portable Image Storage Viewing Devices' according to this primer: http://www.shortcourses.com/sharing/storing-and-viewing.htm And the acronym? PIS VD. You couldn't make this stuff up could you? LOL Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Sunday photographer Just to be contrary
Actually there are four major cycles, the 11 year cycle you mention is somewhat in dispute. Graywolf wrote: No surprise that the F6 is selling well. Most of the problem with camera sales was not digital cameras, but the world economic conditions. But things are on the rise again now. I'vw mentioned an 11 year economic cycle many times, and no one listens. I find it strange that none of the so-called economists mention it. Of course I have only lived through six of them: 1948, 1959, 1970, 1981, 1992, and 2003 being the bottoms of the cycle, so maybe my sample is not large enough. Major wars seem to modify that cycle. The bottom was mild in the US in 1970 when the government was spending billions on the VietNam war. And WWII held things off for about 4 years, the bottom of the cycle prior to '48 being 1933. Taking that 4 year slip into account I can find references that show the cycle holds back to 1900. Next bottom 2014; expect the economy to start an obvious down trend about 2010 with a possible sudden drop in the stock market a year or too befor that. Stock market crashes seem to happen at the top of the cycle. People blame them for the following depression, but the depression is going to hit reguardless of that. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Scott Loveless wrote: On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 12:45:46 +0100, Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-mar-05.shtml Interestng conclusions. And information that new Nikon F6 sells very well is surprising too. Apparently there are a lot of people still using film for PRO work too (Natoinal Geographic should be a good example)... From the article: Lord, I don't think I have the strength to face a world without Leica I'm just now getting used to a world without Deardorff! This is off topic, but for those of you with an interest in large format, Mr. Deardorff is once again making view cameras under the name J. Deardorff Photographic Products Intl., or DPPI. I have a scan of the catalog that was presented recently by the man himself. It's a VERY LARGE file (~12MB) for only 37 pages. If anyone wants a copy, I'll be happy to post it at my personal site for download. Perhaps someone with a copy of Acrobat would be willing to resize it? -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: NorCal Meeting
On 7/3/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Not when it doesn't show up on the PC as a connected device and the menus on the ImageTank don't work. I've written JOBO a complaint letter and mentioned I am bad mouthing them to a lot of photographers. ;-) We shall see what happens. Fingers crossed. Hmm, maybe it needs a driver, or the computer can't see the hard drive past the proprietary electronics. Inside, it will likely be a standard 2.5 inch hard disk. If removed and placed into an external hard drive enclosure (like a LaCie Pocket Drive) it would probably be recognised. If you took it to a disk recovery shop, that's what they might do. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: What do you call those devices ...
Well that's stooopid. Searching on portable storage devices brings up all sorts of stuff I don't want, including music players, things with screens to view photos (only displaying JPEG's). OK, let's try this: I want a small package that has a hard drive in it (20GB seems sufficient, so maybe 40GB is best) and slots for various types of cards and allows for a USB 2.0 connection to download the info to the computer. Any recommendations or suggestions of products to stay away from. Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] See my previous post, there is no generic name. Marnie
Re: NorCal Meeting
There may not be a direct connection between the drive itself and the usb port. Probably have to go through whatever part of the system is cooked to get to the drive. Cotty wrote: On 7/3/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: I am sure the images are okay. It's the menus that aren't working and it won't turn off when I push the on/off button. I have it hooked up to the computer through the USB slot, because that is the only way I can get it to turn off. Surely if you can hook up via USB, then can you mount the device on your desktop (or whatever the process is called on a PC) and access the hard drive that way? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: LCD monitors?
Ah. I've been looking at that Sony. Mishka mused: apple 23 is the same as sony 23. and both are platform (mac/pc) agnostic. best, mishka Okay, but that's Apple/Mac. Hehehehe. Marnie aka Doe
Re: NorCal Meeting
In a message dated 3/7/2005 9:25:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Inside, it will likely be a standard 2.5 inch hard disk. If removed and placed into an external hard drive enclosure (like a LaCie Pocket Drive) it would probably be recognised. If you took it to a disk recovery shop, that's what they might do. Cheers, Cotty === Thanks. Yeah, that is what I was thinking, though I was not exactly sure how they would do it, but that sounds right. I probably will end up doing that. I think the drive is okay it is just everything else that is shot. Marnie Thanks again.
