PESO: 'tis the Season

[Tim Bray]

Christmas-tree detail:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/12/16/Tis-the-Season

Best o' the occasion to all, and I hope that we can all agree to blend
our religious and cultural appreciations of its merits in a cheerful
kind of way.  Preferably one that involves good whiskey. -T

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Re: Wow, someone in the Netherlands really wants to hack my web site!

[Tim Bray]

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:45 PM, David Mann  wrote:
> I've had to clean up after successful hacks on people's sites a handful of 
> times this year.  Keep your blog software, and its plugins, up to date.  And 
> be careful not to keep old emails containing passwords lying around.
>
> Oh yes, don't necessarily trust your hosting provider to keep good backups 
> either.

I'm one of the people who worries about the Internet more or less
full-time for a living.  It's impossible to overstate how many bad
guys are out there or how hard they're trying.  We're actually holding
our own against them, mostly, but they do win some.  So anyone who
cares about their online presence should be asking themselves some
questions time to time. What if the server my presence is on were,
suddenly:

(a) under the control of malicious people,
(b) no longer there; the provider simply absent, no phones being answered, etc
(c) still there but providing completely unsatisfactory service and
non-responsive management.

The question you should be asking: Is there a Plan B? Is there a way
to rebuild my online presence?  Am I 100% sure that I have control
over an accurate copy of 100% of my data?

Sorry to be a downer. -T

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Re: Does anybody miss the "new" equipment discussions?

[Tim Bray]

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:12 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> We could talk about guns.

You left out Global Warming.  Jeepers.  Even though you're Not Trying
Hard Enough, I will nonetheless offer this amusing look under the
Wikipedia covers to prove that when it comes to Serious Arguing, we're
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Lamest_edit_wars

 -T

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RE: Does anybody miss the "new" equipment discussions?

[Bob W]

> >> Yeah, politics!  That Obama, what a guy, eh?
> >
> > I suspected you were a fan of Osama. Now we have confirmation:-).
> 
> No, no, Paul.  That's O-B-ama.  With a "B".
> 
> Him I like.
> 
> The other one, not so much...
> 
> (whew, what a difference one letter can make!)
> 
> ;-)

Yep. Ask Ramsay MacDonald.


Bob


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RE: This is Britain

[Bob W]

> 
> Sorry if its posted before.
> 
> http://www.photoradar.com/photographer-of-the-year-2009-winner
> s-this-is-britain
> 
> What are they saying in Britain about this? Oh dear?
> 
> :-)

No idea. Never heard of it before. 



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Re: Pentax macro lens with new approach

[Frits Wüthrich]

A working distance of 13 cm in life-size applications, but a minimum 
focusing distance of 0,303 m (= 30.3 cm).

Magic.

Frits

On 17-12-2009 7:41, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 12/11/2009 6:12:53 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
alunf...@gmail.com writes:
It is delivered with a  unique set of  accessories:
http://www.pentax.jp/english/news/2009/200919.html

Check  towards bottom of  page.



Jostein


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Chocolate?

Marnie  aka Doe ;-)

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Re: Pentax macro lens with new approach

[eckinator]

Makes sense even though it is not obvious.
Focusing distance is measured sensor plane to subject, working
distance front element to subject. I have a Canon FD 4/200 Macro
spec'd at 58 cm focusing distance but the lens extends so much when in
macro that working distance is a mere 19 cm. Still way better than my
DFA 50/2.8 in close combat =)
Cheers
Ecke

2009/12/17 Frits Wüthrich :
> A working distance of 13 cm in life-size applications, but a minimum
> focusing distance of 0,303 m (= 30.3 cm).
> Magic.
>
> Frits
>
> On 17-12-2009 7:41, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> In a message dated 12/11/2009 6:12:53 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
>> alunf...@gmail.com writes:
>> It is delivered with a  unique set of  accessories:
>> http://www.pentax.jp/english/news/2009/200919.html
>>
>> Check  towards bottom of  page.
>>
>> 
>>
>> Jostein
>>
>>
>> =
>> Chocolate?
>>
>> Marnie  aka Doe ;-)
>>
>> -
>> We can't  solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when
>> we
>> created them.  Albert Einstein
>>
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Re: Film Réalité

[Boris Liberman]

Pleasure meeting you, sir. Though I'd rather the circumstances were 
entirely different.


Boris

P.S. Paul, for some reason your look does not frighten me even a bit...

On 12/15/2009 4:41 PM, Walter Hamler wrote:

Paul, here's one just for you!  The surgeon will be happy :-)

Walt

http://walthamler.smugmug.com/Other/ByPass/10656889_xitJf#741624618_VGWZd-L-LB

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Re: PEN&T Cool Guys Like Us - Heavy LR Abuse...

[Boris Liberman]

On 12/12/2009 11:42 PM, eckinator wrote:

Really tortured this shot in LR for practice... it doesn't tell the
story, only the attitude so I figured I might as well...
...
Cheers
Ecke



Ecke, I am afraid I'd be very brutal. I like the original the best. But 
then again, I generally oppose heavy processing of images. Well, how to 
put it. I don't really oppose it - do as you please, but personally, I 
prefer photography and not digital art.


No offense meant.

Boris

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Re: OT: ...and camel?

[Boris Liberman]

On 12/14/2009 10:17 AM, Bob W wrote:

It's gibberish.

Bob


Roger that. Though I couldn't see it from the first sight... Oh well...

Boris

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Re: Peso - PDML friends at GFM 2005

[mike wilson]

 David J Brooks  wrote: 
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:54 AM, frank theriault
>  wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:01 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> >
> 
> > I agree on both counts.  Great long weekend!
> 
> I just wish it was not such a long drive.

That's what aeroplanes are for.

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RE: OT: ...and camel?

[mike wilson]

 Bob W  wrote: 
> After the
> first edit I felt so full of self-loathing for my uselessness that I put
> them away meaning to look again later, and never have done.

Mark.

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RE: PESO: Ammo

[mike wilson]

 Bob W  wrote: 
> > 
> > The gun is still smoking...
> > 
> > http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/
> > 
> > BR, Margus
> > 
> 
> What are they?

Empty shells.

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Re: Peso - PDML friends at GFM 2005

[Boris Liberman]

Happy birthday!

For some reason I thought that Mr Brooks :-) was taller. He does not 
look so on this photo.


Well, don't feel nostalgic, Ann. You, for one, can take pictures like 
these. I cannot *sigh*...


Boris


On 12/14/2009 2:06 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/ybj9hg9

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Random-stuff/2607384_N3Nso/1/739962486_sypvu/Large


turning 73 makes me nostalgic

ann


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upside down portraits

[Frits Wüthrich]

http://www.brutonstroube.com/UDF/

You have to be creative to stand apart from the crowd.

Frits


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Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

[Brian Walters]

On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:30 +, "Cotty"  wrote:
> On 17/12/09, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/album-firefighting/index.html
> 
> 
> Nice shots. A twin-bladed HU1 as well. One of the few helicopters that
> can land, switch off, take off again, do a 360, and land, all on the
> momentum of the rotors.
 

How do you know these things



> I love the smell of napalm in the morning..


I don't know about napalm but I expect the distinct smell of eucalyptus
oil in the AM.


Cheers

Brian

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Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

[Brian Walters]

On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:59 -0800, "Larry Colen"  wrote:
> 
> On Dec 16, 2009, at 11:24 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
> 
> >
> > Of course I took a few photos.
> >
> > :-)>
> >
> >
> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/album-firefighting/index.html
> 
> Very cool set.
> 



Thanks, Larry.


Cheers

Brian

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Re: PESO - Katharina and the Dolphins

[Brian Walters]

On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:47 -0500, "David J Brooks" 
wrote:
> Nice rich colours.
> 


Thanks for looking, Dave.


Cheers

Brian

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> Dave
> 
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 5:17 AM, Brian Walters 
> wrote:
> > Sounds a bit like a 60's rock group.
> >
> > But it isn't
> >
> > http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/187760/Katharina_and_the_Dolphins.html
> >
> >
> > Comments always appreciated.
> >
> >
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Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

[Cotty]

>> >http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/album-firefighting/index.html
>>
>>
>> Nice shots. A twin-bladed HU1 as well. One of the few helicopters that
>> can land, switch off, take off again, do a 360, and land, all on the
>> momentum of the rotors.
>
>
>How do you know these things

Har - you work in news and you pick up little bits of trivia from everywhere.

Actually that came from a book called Chickenhawk that was recommended
to me by another cameraman years ago. An air cav pilots recount of the
vietnam war as seen from the cockpit of a Huey:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chickenhawk_(book)



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Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

[Christian]

Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

We have a serious bushfire burning a few km to the east of us.  It's
downwind of us so that's good - but not good for those in that
direction.

As I write another Erikson Air Crane has just flown over the house - we
have a small lake a couple of hundred metres away and the choppers have
been using it to fill their water tanks for most of the day.

Of course I took a few photos.

:-)>


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/album-firefighting/index.html


Awesome shots Brian.  The one with the chopper "below" ground level and 
the geese/ducks flying up... just great!


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Re: Does anybody miss the "new" equipment discussions?

[Mark Roberts]

Subash wrote:

>frank theriault  wrote:
>
>> > I for one miss those halcyon days of just a few months ago.
>> 
>> We could talk about guns.
>> 
>> Abortion.
>> 
>> Religion.
>> 
>> Politics.
>> 
>> Yeah, politics!  That Obama, what a guy, eh?
>> 
>> How about that climate summit in Sweden!  Or was that Denmark?
>> Whatever!
>> 
>> And how about Time's Person of the Year?  Bernanke?  'Cause he's done
>> such a bang-up job on the economy?  Yeah, right!
>> 
>> Okay, those should keep us going until Pentax releases a new
>> product...
>
>Frank, you left out outsourcing/offshoring...

Come on everyone, this is a Pentax mailing list!

APERTURE SIMULATORS!


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Re: Does anybody miss the "new" equipment discussions?

[paul stenquist]

I don't know what the exact numbers are, but the K7 isn't a lot lighter than 
the K20. Somewhat smaller, but it's packed and well built, so it's rather 
hefty. I prefer a heavier camera. It makes for a steadier grip and balances 
substantial lenses better. The DA* 60-250 and the K7 with battery pack are a 
perfect match.
Paul
On Dec 17, 2009, at 2:07 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

> I thought the same with my K20 & then I touched the K7 & heard the
> shutter--ahhh, that was lovely to the ears.  I do want the K7, so I'm *sort
> of* saving for it--but mainly for the weight--I'm so tired of the weight--my
> own--and camera gear weight; these days I'm traveling really light, and it's 
> still heavy.  I guess I'm a wimp.  A few nights ago I dreamt of my old MX, 
> and I moved around free and easy in that dream.  :-)  Cheers, Christine
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "gldnbearz" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 4:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the "new" equipment discussions?
> 
> 
> I thought the same w/ my K200D.  Then I had to touch a K7 & listen to
> it's shutter sound.  What to do with a K200D + grip? :\
> 
> - Pat
> 
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Brian Walters 
> wrote:
> 
>> Well, it's summer doldrums down here but I get your point
>> 
>> I think that DSLR development has reached the point where incremental
>> gains in performance are relatively small, so upgrading becomes a matter
>> of trying to justify the expense when the current camera is 'good
>> enough'.
>> 
>> I my case, the K200D does pretty much everything I want, so I probably
>> wont upgrade until a camera comes along with similar features but with a
>> better high ISO performance and a sensor with a few more MP of
>> resolution. (Oh, wait. Isn't that the K-x?)
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Re: Does anybody miss the "new" equipment discussions?

[eckinator]

2009/12/17 Mark Roberts :
>
> APERTURE SIMULATORS!

screw-in for the filter thread? including a zoom version?

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Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

[paul stenquist]

Well done!

On Dec 17, 2009, at 6:36 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:59 -0800, "Larry Colen"  wrote:
>> 
>> On Dec 16, 2009, at 11:24 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Of course I took a few photos.
>>> 
>>> :-)>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/album-firefighting/index.html
>> 
>> Very cool set.
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks, Larry.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
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Re: Does anybody miss the "new" equipment discussions?

[frank theriault]

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Mark Roberts  wrote:


> APERTURE SIMULATORS!

Mark,

Why did you HAVE TO BRING UP that topic?!?!?

Are you mocking the IMPORTANCE OF APERTURE SIMULATORS???  Don't you
realize that PENTAX' failure to INCLUDE aperture simulators in their
cameras MARKS the SINGLE BIGGEST BETRAYAL of any CORPORATION TOWARDS
its CUSTOMERS in the history of CAMERA MANUFACTURING

Now you've DONE IT!  We're in for a HUGE FLAME WAR now!

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Re: Does anybody miss the "new" equipment discussions?

[frank theriault]

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 3:42 AM, Tim Bray  wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:12 PM, frank theriault
>  wrote:
>> We could talk about guns.
>
> You left out Global Warming.  Jeepers.  Even though you're Not Trying
> Hard Enough, I will nonetheless offer this amusing look under the
> Wikipedia covers to prove that when it comes to Serious Arguing, we're
> a bunch of rank amateurs:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Lamest_edit_wars

Well, I did mention the Copenhagen Conference...

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Re: Photographer arrested at mall

[frank theriault]

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Sandra Hermann
 wrote:
> The mall cop said because other children were on the Carousel it was illegal. 
> I didn't believe him, but didn't wanna take a chance either.
>  Help me support Autism research!  Join my 
> team!  http://www.walknowforautism.org/stlouis/blubiconsbuddies
>  http://stampmine.blogspot.com/http://samsphotopage.blogspot.com/

I don't blame you for leaving and not confronting the Mall Cop.  The
downside of being arrested (even if no charges are laid) kind of
sucks.  And, as we've heard earlier in this thread (and in other
stories), even if the "real" police realize that taking pix of kiddies
is quite legal, if you argue with them, some police are quick to lay
the ubiquitous "obstruct justice", "assault officer" or "resist
arrest" charges.

Those are an officers best friend.

Still, taking photos of children is quite legal, even if those
children aren't yours.

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Re: Does anybody miss the "new" equipment discussions?

[Mark Roberts]

frank theriault wrote:

>On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 3:42 AM, Tim Bray  wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:12 PM, frank theriault
>>  wrote:
>>> We could talk about guns.
>>
>> You left out Global Warming.  Jeepers.  Even though you're Not Trying
>> Hard Enough, I will nonetheless offer this amusing look under the
>> Wikipedia covers to prove that when it comes to Serious Arguing, we're
>> a bunch of rank amateurs:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Lamest_edit_wars
>
>Well, I did mention the Copenhagen Conference...

We thought that was something to do with chewing tobacco.


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Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

[frank theriault]

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> G'day all
>
> We have a serious bushfire burning a few km to the east of us.  It's
> downwind of us so that's good - but not good for those in that
> direction.
>
> As I write another Erikson Air Crane has just flown over the house - we
> have a small lake a couple of hundred metres away and the choppers have
> been using it to fill their water tanks for most of the day.
>
> Of course I took a few photos.

Very cool set!

You guys should buy come Canadair water bombers.  They work way better
than helicopters:

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/revolution-in-flight-363.jpg

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Re: PESO - PDML special :-)

[Christian]

eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 12/9/2009 12:17:26 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
alunf...@gmail.com writes:



Blog: http://turl.no/6tp
Image:  http://turl.no/6tq

Jostein

=
??? But it's not a  cormorant. Nice shot, good DOF on the background.

Marnie  


Ummm, yes it is.  a "Shag" is the European name for what Americans call 
a cormorant.  Both the double-crested cormorant (made famous by cotty's 
magazine cover) and Jostein's bird are in the same Genus: Phalacrocorax


The Imperial Shag is also known as the King Cormorant.

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Re: OT - Re: Wow, someone in the Netherlands really wants to hack my web site!

[Christian]

John Francis wrote:

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 04:40:30PM -0800, Joseph McAllister wrote:
Since I have gotten no email addressed to me from anyone I know for  
several years through my email account at AOL, I am rescinding my right 
to that user name, as soon as someone from AOL pays attention to my 
attempts to do so.


They won't give it out to anyone else.  They won't even give it back
to you should you ever rejoin them (ask Marnie about that behaviour).


We have started a new screen name recycling program that will allow 
users to use discarded names.  There are caveats however.  Something 
simple like "christ...@aol.com" would be such a spam magnet that it 
would be unusable.  cskoftel...@aol.com would be fine.  Of course that's 
mine and no one is gonna get it. :-)



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Re: Does anybody miss the "new" equipment discussions?

[mike wilson]

 "P. J. Alling"  wrote: 
> The winter doldrums are approaching and the fact that Pentax has finally 
> given us a couple of camera bodies that, (with /appropriately/ lowered 
> expectations), seem to be what most of us want, the of the discussion of 
> future developments has stopped. 
> 
> Ok, I know that DPreview, Pentax Forums and others have such discussion 
> but they're just silly...
> 
> I for one miss those halcyon days of just a few months ago.

You must be missing half the posts on this list.  Typically, the "what lens do 
you want Pentax to produce?" sort.

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AOL - WAS: Re: OT - Re: Wow, someone in the Netherlands really wants to hack my web site!

[Christian]

John Sessoms wrote:

From: Bob Sullivan

Sorry about that.
I never understood AOL's business model.
When they cut back on hosting web pages,
I cut back from $29/month to $10/month.
I can go to $0 when you leave.
I find the interface is getting more cumbersome,
and the time it takes to link to their web pages is often long.
This wasn't noticeable on a dial-up service, but is on a high speed line.
I just leave the AOL site when a page takes more than 5-10 seconds to 
load.

I'm looking to deprive them of eyeballs and ad revenue.
Regards,  Bob S.



I think it's mostly people who don't know anything about computers but 
want email. A lot of people who don't want to know anything else about 
computers. My mom uses AOL for email.


Just one step up from Web-TV.


At the risk of putting myself out there for flames and insults I'm gonna 
respond.  I've given this company five and a half years of my 
professional life.  That's a record for me.  I'd love to give them five 
more to be a part of where the company might be going.  I think our new 
CEO has a vision but I'm worried about his execution.  Moving operations 
offshore is going to destroy this place.  We know first hand that the 
people in Bangalore are not going to be up to the task to take over 
every aspect of operations in the short period of time they have.


The whole "internet on training wheels" insult is old and tired.  AOL 
has changed s much since it was "your mom's ISP."  We are NOT an 
ISP.  We are more like yahoo and MSN.  The term "portal" does not do us 
justice.  We are so much more than that.  We have dozens of sites that 
millions of people go to every day without realizing they are "using" 
AOL.  That's what the future of AOL is supposed to be about.  Content.


Sure we have people still paying for dial-up but we are shedding those 
(on purpose) by the millions every year.  We also have people too stupid 
to use anything but the crappy, bloated, slow, AOL client software.  My 
life in the email ops department would be a billion time easier if we 
scrapped the client because of all the legacy interfaces we have to keep 
around while we modernize the rest of the infrastructure.


Last week we separated completely from Time Warner (a marriage doomed 
from the start) and started trading as "AOL" on the NYSE.  Yes, our 
valuation is crap. Yes, the stock is gonna be pretty bad.  But there is 
a ton of potential too.  Time Warner dragged us down.  A string of bad 
CEOs and CTOs cost the company dearly.  Now that we are independent, 
maybe we can make gains in the marketplace.


Then again, I might get laid off in the next month.  In which case I 
could give a shit what happens



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RE: PESO - Protesters

[mike wilson]

 Bob W  wrote: 
> you'll still be allowed to wear your cowboy boots and eat meat. As long it's
> organically reared.

How will that affect moob production?

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Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

[Boris Liberman]

Brian, the 'copters are all very colorful and cheerful, though your 
story is exact opposite. Strange cognitive contrast...


Hope the fire is put off by now and no one has come to harm.

Boris

On 12/17/2009 9:24 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

We have a serious bushfire burning a few km to the east of us.  It's
downwind of us so that's good - but not good for those in that
direction.

As I write another Erikson Air Crane has just flown over the house - we
have a small lake a couple of hundred metres away and the choppers have
been using it to fill their water tanks for most of the day.

Of course I took a few photos.

:-)>


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/album-firefighting/index.html



Cheers

Brian

++
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Re: PESO: Balls

[Boris Liberman]

Oddly enough the lack of your reflection, Paul, is hmmm intriguing...

Boris

On 12/17/2009 1:26 AM, P N Stenquist wrote:

Stopped by the park and shot these marble balls again. Mid morning light
this time and a much smaller stop.

K7D, DA 16-50/2.8, f16 at 1/40th, ISO 400.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10359670

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OT: suprising lack of spine for a vertebrate

[mike wilson]

http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2009/04/07/rare-species-applies-for-voluntary-extinction/

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Re: PESO - Catharine on Augusta Street

[Boris Liberman]

I do enjoy. Somehow feels classic!

Boris


On 12/17/2009 3:50 AM, frank theriault wrote:

I have mixed feelings about this one, for reasons that I may disclose
later.  Not mixed feelings about the photo itself, which (if I can be
permitted a candid moment) I have to admit I really like a lot, but
rather about the circumstances surrounding the taking of the photo.
Like I said, maybe more on that later.

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/blog-post.html

Leica CL, 40mm Summicron C, Ilford HP5+ (they were out of TriX).

Hope you enjoy.  Feel free to comment.

cheers,
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Re: GESO 2009 - 199-206 - GDG

[Boris Liberman]

Godfrey, there is a sense of infinity in your pavement series. It is 
hard to put down in words, but I thought of streets of all these towns 
and cities around the world, when I looked at your photos. <--- This is 
definitely a compliment.


Boris



On 12/16/2009 3:32 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I capture what I try to see,
sometimes it captures me.

Slideshow:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157623009332080/show/

Set:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157623009332080/

comments and critique always appreciated. thanks for looking!

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Re: PESO - Protesters

[Boris Liberman]

C&C: Contemporary and controversial.

:-)

On 12/15/2009 4:00 AM, frank theriault wrote:

The Hudson's Bay Company is Canada's oldest company, having started as
a fur trading company in the late 17th Century.  Today it's a chain of
stores.  It's flagship store here in Toronto is the city's largest
department store.

They still sell furs (although it's a very small part of their
business) and so they attract protesters and picketers such as these
two earnest looking ladies:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/12/protesters.html

Sort of Canadian Gothic feel to it, eh?  ;-)

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

cheers,
frank




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Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

[mike wilson]

 Brian Walters  wrote: 
> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:30 +, "Cotty"  wrote:
> > On 17/12/09, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:
> > 
> > >http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/album-firefighting/index.html
> > 
> > 
> > Nice shots. A twin-bladed HU1 as well. One of the few helicopters that
> > can land, switch off, take off again, do a 360, and land, all on the
> > momentum of the rotors.
>  
> 
> How do you know these things

There is nothing Cotty is more knowledgable about than a good whup whup whup 
whupping.  Or am I thinking of Bill?

> 
> 
> 
> > I love the smell of napalm in the morning..
> 
> 
> I don't know about napalm but I expect the distinct smell of eucalyptus
> oil in the AM.
> 
> 
> Cheers


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Re: OT: suprising lack of spine for a vertebrate

[AlunFoto]

2009/12/17 mike wilson :
> http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2009/04/07/rare-species-applies-for-voluntary-extinction/

Now doesn't that quite take the biscuit.

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Re: PESO: self-propelled

[Boris Liberman]

Paul, are you familiar with "Carlson who lives on the roof"?

On 12/16/2009 5:22 AM, paul stenquist wrote:

DA* 16-50/2.8, k7D, f4, 1/15th, ISO 800, 50mm. A bit of motion blur here, but I 
like the pic:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10356032
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Re: PESO - GFM sunset

[Boris Liberman]

What Paul and Frank said ;-).

Boris


On 12/14/2009 5:52 AM, paul stenquist wrote:

What Frank said.
Paul
On Dec 13, 2009, at 10:45 PM, frank theriault wrote:


On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 7:09 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Another from 2005 - just a schmaltzy sunset.
I started gathering nature stuff for another calendar

http://tinyurl.com/y9ge97q

ann
http://annsan.smugmug.com


That's gorgeous, Ann.

cheers,
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Re: PESO: Grossmünster

[Boris Liberman]

I think it is wonderful travel photo to remember your trip by.

Boris

On 12/15/2009 6:12 AM, Subash wrote:

hi,

a Peso from the visit to zurich last month. a view from the limmat
river.

http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/Peso#5415307149025339618

K10D/FA 35/2. do tell me what you think.

regards, subash


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Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

[Mark Roberts]

Brian Walters wrote:

>On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:30 +, "Cotty"  wrote:
>> On 17/12/09, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:
>> 
>> >http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/album-firefighting/index.html
>> 
>> Nice shots. A twin-bladed HU1 as well. One of the few helicopters that
>> can land, switch off, take off again, do a 360, and land, all on the
>> momentum of the rotors.
>
>How do you know these things

Well, he doesn't know the proper name of the helicopter: It's "UH-1"
not "HU1"

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Re: PESO - The Whisper - final version (I promise!)

[Boris Liberman]

Definitely the last version.

Cheers ;-)

Boris


On 12/14/2009 1:12 AM, frank theriault wrote:

Sorry to inundate you with all these versions - usually I just show
one and go with it, but for some reason I had the feeling that there's
a better photo in there, waiting to be coaxed out.  I'm not sure if
this is it, but to me it's the best yet:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/whisper-final-version.html

Took Paul's advice to crop, then I brightened it just a bit with
curves, but that really brought the grain out more, so I toned the
grain down to about what it was (I think) in the original.

For comparison (if you care), the original:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/12/whisper.html

and version 2:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/whisper-redux.html

Make of all this what you will...

;-)

Thanks for all your help in this!

cheers,
frank





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Re: PESO: Balls

[P N Stenquist]

On Dec 17, 2009, at 9:54 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:


Oddly enough the lack of your reflection, Paul, is hmmm intriguing...

Boris
There are enough deep shadow areas that I was able to crouch and tuck  
myself into the darkness.


Thanks to all who commented or just had a look.
Paul


On 12/17/2009 1:26 AM, P N Stenquist wrote:
Stopped by the park and shot these marble balls again. Mid morning  
light

this time and a much smaller stop.

K7D, DA 16-50/2.8, f16 at 1/40th, ISO 400.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10359670

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Peso Torch run

[David J Brooks]

Hi all.

The torch run for the Vancouver 2010 winter games ran through
Stouffville this morning between 9-10 am.
After finishing my runs, i tried to find a spot to park and witness
the event. Took a while as the street and parking areas were full, but
i managed a spot ion mid town.

Not a great location but managed to get a few.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10362730

K10D, DA F 50-200.

My eyes were watering up so i relied on the AF beep, but some look
like there may be some BF, as in this

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Re: Does anybody miss the "new" equipment discussions?

[Christine Aguila]

Well, some lighter would help ;-).  Seriously though, when I did the 
camera-store-try on the K7, it felt good to hold and had a nice feel.  I do 
understand the point about weight/steadier grip/with longer lenses--and 
agree, but lately the kit feels so heavy--course so does by body.  Maybe I'm 
just so out of shape, and  I'm probably not shooting enough--actually, I 
just checked Lightroom; I shot 5887 frames so far for 2009.  I suppose by 
PDML standards that's pretty wimpy, but certainly not out of character for 
the wimp I am :-).  Cheers, Christine



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I don't know what the exact numbers are, but the K7 isn't a lot lighter 
than the K20. Somewhat smaller, but it's packed and well built, so it's 
rather hefty. I prefer a heavier camera. It makes for a steadier grip and 
balances substantial lenses better. The DA* 60-250 and the K7 with battery 
pack are a perfect match.

Paul
On Dec 17, 2009, at 2:07 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:


I thought the same with my K20 & then I touched the K7 & heard the
shutter--ahhh, that was lovely to the ears.  I do want the K7, so I'm 
*sort
of* saving for it--but mainly for the weight--I'm so tired of the 
weight--my
own--and camera gear weight; these days I'm traveling really light, and 
it's still heavy.  I guess I'm a wimp.  A few nights ago I dreamt of my 
old MX, and I moved around free and easy in that dream.  :-)  Cheers, 
Christine











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I thought the same w/ my K200D.  Then I had to touch a K7 & listen to
it's shutter sound.  What to do with a K200D + grip? :\

- Pat

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Brian Walters 
wrote:


Well, it's summer doldrums down here but I get your point

I think that DSLR development has reached the point where incremental
gains in performance are relatively small, so upgrading becomes a matter
of trying to justify the expense when the current camera is 'good
enough'.

I my case, the K200D does pretty much everything I want, so I probably
wont upgrade until a camera comes along with similar features but with a
better high ISO performance and a sensor with a few more MP of
resolution. (Oh, wait. Isn't that the K-x?)


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Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

[Christine Aguila]

Sorry to hear about the fires.  Stay safe.  Excellent set though, Brian! 
Just out of interest, what lens were you using?  Cheers, Christine



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Subject: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters



G'day all

We have a serious bushfire burning a few km to the east of us.  It's
downwind of us so that's good - but not good for those in that
direction.

As I write another Erikson Air Crane has just flown over the house - we
have a small lake a couple of hundred metres away and the choppers have
been using it to fill their water tanks for most of the day.

Of course I took a few photos.

:-)>


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/album-firefighting/index.html



Cheers

Brian

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Re: PESO: Grossmünster

[Christine Aguila]

I agree with Boris, and I'd probably crop quite a bit off the top and bottom 
for a more squarish frame.  Just a thought--ignore and carry on if it 
doesn't work for you :-).  Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - 
From: "Boris Liberman" 

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Subject: Re: PESO: Grossmünster



I think it is wonderful travel photo to remember your trip by.

Boris

On 12/15/2009 6:12 AM, Subash wrote:

hi,

a Peso from the visit to zurich last month. a view from the limmat
river.

http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/Peso#5415307149025339618

K10D/FA 35/2. do tell me what you think.

regards, subash


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Re: Does anybody miss the "new" equipment discussions?

[Scott Loveless]

On 12/16/09, frank theriault  wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:41 PM, paul stenquist
>   wrote:
>  > Oh Obama!!
>  > Now I feel better:-).
>
>
> And, yeah, I do like Obama.  A bit right wing for my tastes, but I
>  think his heart's in the right place.

You are, obviously, new to Illinois politics.

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Re: 'tis the Season

[Christine Aguila]

Happy holidays to you too, Tim.  Very colorful close-up of your tree.  And I 
agree, life was better when we all drank more!  Kept us in spirit!  Cheers, 
Christine



- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Bray" 

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Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 2:11 AM
Subject: PESO: 'tis the Season



Christmas-tree detail:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/12/16/Tis-the-Season

Best o' the occasion to all, and I hope that we can all agree to blend
our religious and cultural appreciations of its merits in a cheerful
kind of way.  Preferably one that involves good whiskey. -T

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Re: self-propelled

[Christine Aguila]

Made me giggle, Paul.  That's fun.  Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
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Subject: PESO: self-propelled


DA* 16-50/2.8, k7D, f4, 1/15th, ISO 800, 50mm. A bit of motion blur here, 
but I like the pic:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10356032
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Re: PESO - Catharine on Augusta Street

[Christine Aguila]

I probably missed your explanation of the extended circumstances since I'm 
behind, but I like the portrait.  It's a  nice straight-head picture. 
Cheers, Christine



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From: "frank theriault" 

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Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 7:50 PM
Subject: PESO - Catharine on Augusta Street



I have mixed feelings about this one, for reasons that I may disclose
later.  Not mixed feelings about the photo itself, which (if I can be
permitted a candid moment) I have to admit I really like a lot, but
rather about the circumstances surrounding the taking of the photo.
Like I said, maybe more on that later.

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/blog-post.html

Leica CL, 40mm Summicron C, Ilford HP5+ (they were out of TriX).

Hope you enjoy.  Feel free to comment.

cheers,
frank


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Re: PESO - a couple of "our" favorite birdies

[Christine Aguila]

Calendar looks very nice, Ann, and the bird shot most excellent.  Cheers, 
Christine



- Original Message - 
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Subject: PESO - a couple of "our" favorite birdies



If ya have to ask, ya don't know...

http://tinyurl.com/yctvg4l


ye olde photo taken with 400mm pentax lens on my trusty LX back in .. 1984

Think I have the nature calendar set...
commerants ...mmm I mean...  comments, welcome


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Re: Peso Torch run

[Christine Aguila]

Looks good, Dave--very nice moment; I might try a square crop taking a bit 
from both left and right--tight on the guy in gray on the left & maybe up to 
the young girl with the red hat--just a thought--and here's wishing 
Vancouver and all of Canada an excellent winter games.  Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - 
From: "David J Brooks" 
To: "Pentax Discuss" ; "Barbara Brooks" ; 
"Harry Bolton" 
Cc: "Home Sarah" ; "Conley Leah" 
; "Smillie Dale" 

Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:22 AM
Subject: Peso Torch run



Hi all.

The torch run for the Vancouver 2010 winter games ran through
Stouffville this morning between 9-10 am.
After finishing my runs, i tried to find a spot to park and witness
the event. Took a while as the street and parking areas were full, but
i managed a spot ion mid town.

Not a great location but managed to get a few.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10362730

K10D, DA F 50-200.

My eyes were watering up so i relied on the AF beep, but some look
like there may be some BF, as in this

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Re: GESO - Dancing

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Rick:  Tell your daughter she looks lovely, and her partner is handsome 
too.  Pretty good job here.  I suspect ballroom dancing would be very hard 
to do.  Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Womer" 

To: "Pentax List" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:10 PM
Subject: GESO - Dancing


My daughter has developed an interest in competitive ballroom dancing. 
This is interesting: my complete klutziness is clearly a recessive trait.


The studio she and her dance partner have been using put on a show Sunday. 
Shooting dancing is hard!  The light isn't too good, motion is fast and 
all over the place, and if one's timing is off one can make the most 
graceful people look like clods.


Fortunately Ellen and her partner performed about three-quarters of the 
way through the afternoon, so I had some time to practice and sort out 
technique.  They performed a very intricate waltz, which her partner had 
choreographed.


http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=946280

(K10D, DA 50-200; fixed manual exposure of f/4.5 @ 1/45, ISO 1100.  Used a 
one-stop gradient filter in LR to lighten the top 1/3 or so of most of the 
shots).


Rick






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Re: Photographer arrested at mall

[John Sessoms]

From: frank theriault
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:05 AM, Sandra Hermann 
 wrote:

I was taking picture of Sami on a Mall carousel around town and
the security guard told me I needed to get out of there they had
called the police. ?He gave me enough warning I could get away
Mom stayed with Sami while I walked away and the cops did show
up.


Why did the police show up?

What was being done wrong?

It's not against the law to take photos in a mall.

If the owners (through their agents, the mall cops) don't want you to
 take photos, they have the right to ask you to leave.  If you don't 
leave, you can be charged with trespass.


But you can't be charged with taking photographs.  As far as I know, 
that's not yet against the law.


And taking photos of your own kid at that. What the hell is this country 
coming to?


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Re: Photographer arrested at mall

[John Sessoms]

From: Sandra Hermann

The mall cop said because other children were on the Carousel it was
illegal. I didn't believe him, but didn't wanna take a chance either.


The mall cop is, as my grandmother was wont to say, "full of sawdust and 
slough water." I won't say what I think he's full of.


It's another of those power trips. "You can't do that because I said so."

Little, by little our freedoms are eroded. First they take away our 
right to photograph our own families in a public space ... then what?


Is there a local chapter of the ACLU? I'd suggest contacting them and 
asking if they'd be willing to write a letter of complaint to the mall's 
management.


Might not hurt to contact whatever local TV/Radio yellow journalists you 
can find in your area, and see if they'd be interested in asking the 
mall management "Why are your security guards threatening to arrest a 
mother for photographing her own child on the mall carousel?" I'm sure 
there's some station that has a "troubleshooter".


Good theater if they can set up an ON AIR interview in front of the 
carousel. Better theater if they interview YOU in front of the carousel 
and then ask the mall management to explain just what kind of idiots 
they are.


I realize this is making a mountain out of a molehill, and you'd 
probably rather just get on with your life, but you keep piling one 
molehills on top of one another and eventually you do have a mountain.


Besides, I'm a born troublemaker. It's my god given right to be an 
asshole for the First Amendment.





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Re: Back on faculty

[Evan Hanson]

Congratulations Mark!!

Evan

On Dec 15, 2009, at 8:51 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


OK, after moving to Boston and spending several months looking for a
job... I finally got one. I'll be teaching at Laselle College in
Newton (6 miles from where we now live) starting next semester.

When we first moved here, everyone said that there are so many
colleges in Boston that I'd have an easy time getting a job. What they
failed to take into account is the number of people who come here with
the same idea: The competition for academic jobs is pretty intense.
What I've got is only an adjunct position. But it's a start.

I'll be teaching a Photoshop course and a "Digital Design" course
(Photoshop, Illustrator and In-Design).

Now I have syllabi to prepare!


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RE: K-7, A 50/1.2, Katz Eye, front focus

[John Sessoms]

You eliminated what I hoped might be an easy answer, so I think your 
next step is to determine whether it affects all of your lenses or just 
the one.


I think you next should determine if the FA50/1.4 has the same front 
focus problem. Also whether it's a problem in auto focus as well as 
manual focus.


Possible outcomes:
1. It's only the A50/1.2.
2. It's the A50/1.2 & FA50/1.4, but only in manual focus.
3. It's both lenses in all modes.

I don't know which you'll get, but it seems to me they would point to 
three different problems:

1. the lens
2. the screen
3. something else (I don't see how the screen would affect auto focus).

Of course, I was wrong before.

From: Boris Liberman

Hi!

I think I'd start a new thread.

First of, I've re-checked and re-adjusted my camera diopter, though it 
was probably spot on from the beginning. I used whatever is written 
below the picture in the viewfinder.


Though this is not a scientific test, meaning, e.g., that no tripod was 
used, but I've observed the following (using Yvon's chart, suggested by 
Derby).


1. The closer the object - the more precise is the focus.
2. The worst situation is closer than infinity, but only just. This is 
when just rotating the lens all the way to infinity will result is out 
of focus picture. I suppose it is because of the distance and relative 
smallness of what I have to decide the focus upon.
3. Close to minimal focus distance I get approximately (very roughly) 
8-10 mm of front focus.


I do have a vague recollection of my dialog at Pentax Israel when they 
said that I might have focusing precision problems with the screen 
simply because *usually*, they said, this is what happens.


Suddenly I am feeling like drowning into major time spendage of testing 
K10D with A 50/1.2, testing both cameras with AF lenses (which I have a 
few, notably FA 50/1.4 and FA 43/1.9), and so on.


*Sigh*

Any suggestions as to how to proceed and how avoid major time spendage 
will be appreciated.


Boris

P.S. My eyes ache a little after this exercise...
P.P.S. Meanwhile I learned by experience that when my K-7 shows one mark 
less than full battery I still have probably 50 or may be even 75 shots 
to go including reasonable amount of chimping.



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Re: GESO 2009 - 199-206 - GDG

[Tim Bray]

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> I capture what I try to see,
> sometimes it captures me.
>
> Slideshow:
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157623009332080/show/

Loved 'em, but I kept wanting to turn up the brightness on my screen.
If you were going to print them, I suspect you'd want to lighten up
quite a bit first.  But excellent photos all.  -Tim

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PESO - Snow Patterns #1

[Eactivist]

About two weeks ago, we had a heavy snow fall. (Sorry, been busy, missed  
some PESOs in those weeks, as my mailbox got full.)  

This is like a  one-in-fifty-year event for this area (Northern California, 
San Francisco Bay  Area -- no, don't know if they had any in SF, doubt it, 
I am inland, inland from  Oakland and Berkeley, California).

Yes, sometimes we get snow, but very  rarely. It usually is a light dusting 
that melts within about 1/2 hour after the  sun hit it.  

This was much heavier and lasted much longer; the snow  on my back lawn 
remained there for three days.

So, this California gal,  without going anywhere, just staying at home, 
minding her own  business, gets to inundate you all with snow pictures! 
 
Heh. Never in a million years would I have guessed this would  happen.

Second day, late day, as the snow melts, still some big patches  around.

Snow Patterns  #1
http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/snow1.htm

Comments  welcome.

Marnie aka Doe  Heh, snow,  heheheheheh.

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RE: This is Britain

[John Sessoms]

From: SV Hovland

Sorry if its posted before.

http://www.photoradar.com/photographer-of-the-year-2009-winners-this-is-britain

What are they saying in Britain about this? Oh dear?


The winner is "a nice change from the usual horror stories of binge 
drinking"?


Young & stupid seems to be a common ideal that knows no boundary of 
culture, nationality or geography.


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Re: K-7, A 50/1.2, Katz Eye, front focus

[Boris Liberman]

John,

I went in the direction similar to what you suggest. So far my findings are:

1. FA 50/1.4 is spot on AF with central sensor. Same front focus issue 
in MF mode.

2. FA 77/1.8 is spot on w.r.t. AF and similar front focus issue in MF.
3. On K10D I cannot determine if I have any MF issues. K10D also has 
Katz Eye screen.


I've contacted Rachael Katz and she suggested that modern AF Pentax 
cameras have wider tolerances w.r.t. manual focusing assembly precision. 
I intend to contact Pentax Israel and ask if they would be willing to 
try to calibrate the screen (using special shims). As far as I 
understand all that has to be done is slight change of the screen 
position inside the camera. Depending of what Pentax Israel response 
would be, I should decide my next step.


In principle I could try to focus a bit beyond the point of focus as 
present position of the focusing screen indicates. The problem of course 
is that it is somewhat hit and miss game and that it changes from lens 
to lens. I've been spoiled with relatively precise MF of my K10D using 
similar Katz Eye screen so that I am a bit frustrated, but at least I 
seem to have a plan.


Last but not least, the responsiveness and willingness to help of Rachel 
Katz is to be commended by highest praise. Truly amazing service.


Thanks!

Boris


On 12/17/2009 7:45 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

You eliminated what I hoped might be an easy answer, so I think your
next step is to determine whether it affects all of your lenses or just
the one.

I think you next should determine if the FA50/1.4 has the same front
focus problem. Also whether it's a problem in auto focus as well as
manual focus.

Possible outcomes:
1. It's only the A50/1.2.
2. It's the A50/1.2 & FA50/1.4, but only in manual focus.
3. It's both lenses in all modes.

I don't know which you'll get, but it seems to me they would point to
three different problems:
1. the lens
2. the screen
3. something else (I don't see how the screen would affect auto focus).

Of course, I was wrong before.


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PESO - Snow Patterns #2

[Eactivist]

The second night it must have snowed again.  That time it WAS a light 
dusting that would soon melt in the sun. So I grabbed  the camera and dashed 
out 
of the  house.

http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/snow2.htm

Comments  welcome.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)  
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Re: PESO - GFM sunset

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 12/17/2009 7:09:42 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
bori...@gmail.com writes:
Boris
===
Well, I can count on Boris to  catch me up with the PESOs I missed. ;-)

Pretty, ann.

Marnie aka Doe  
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On 12/14/2009 5:52 AM, paul stenquist  wrote:
> What Frank said.
> Paul
> On Dec 13, 2009, at 10:45  PM, frank theriault wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 7:09 PM,  ann sanfedele  
wrote:
>>> Another from  2005 - just a schmaltzy sunset.
>>> I started gathering nature stuff  for another calendar
>>>
>>>  http://tinyurl.com/y9ge97q
>>>
>>> ann
>>>  http://annsan.smugmug.com


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Re: PESO - GFM sunset

[Boris Liberman]

On 12/17/2009 8:03 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

Well, I can count on Boris to  catch me up with the PESOs I missed. ;-)

Marnie aka Doe


I am usually pretty thorough but more importantly I am awfully slow and 
terribly behind the unread message count...


;-)

Boris


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Re: PESO: Christmas cookies

[Boris Liberman]

Bob, I am thinking that you should take more advantage of Kate's eye 
color. It is gorgeous.


Lovely cookies as well.

Boris

On 12/13/2009 8:27 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Here are some shots from baking cookies yesterday.
It was Kate's 1st time and she was very happy.
Children are a joy!   :-)

http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Kate#5414784520805877602
http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Kate#5414784534257450546
http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Kate#5414784549729324322

All shot wide open with a new toy.

Regards,  Bob S.

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RE: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

[John Sessoms]

From: "Brian Walters"

G'day all

We have a serious bushfire burning a few km to the east of us.  It's
downwind of us so that's good - but not good for those in that
direction.

As I write another Erikson Air Crane has just flown over the house - we
have a small lake a couple of hundred metres away and the choppers have
been using it to fill their water tanks for most of the day.

Of course I took a few photos.

 :-) >


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/album-firefighting/index.html


A minor nit ... rotor-craft & prop driven aircraft need a slower shutter 
speed so you don't completely stop the motion of the rotor/propeller. 
Gives a more pleasing rendition. Most of them need just slightly more 
blur to the rotors, especially the third one.


Learned that the hard way (and hopefully will remember in the heat of 
the moment the next time I need it).


That said, it's a good set. I love the old CH-54. It's good to see 
they're still of use to someone.


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Re: OT: Know when to get out of the way... (cool pictures)

[John Francis]

It was very unlikely that the car would come over the wall?  Watch it again.

Maybe not the whole car, but the rear wheel is up on top of the wall at one
point.  That makes it quite possible that something could snag and wrench
the wheel off.  Even just a wheel, at a mere 50mph, can ruin your whole day.


On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 09:37:18PM -0500, paul stenquist wrote:
> If you watch the video, it's obvious that the car isn't  moving very fast. It 
> veered right immediately off the starting line and probably hit the wall at 
> less than 50 mph. Still frightening, but nothing like a 200+ mph crash. It 
> was very unlikely that the car would come over the wall. And the photographer 
> got some great shots.
> Paul
> On Dec 16, 2009, at 8:53 PM, John Francis wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 06:27:05PM -0500, John Sessoms wrote:
> >> From: Larry Colen
> >>> frank theriault wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Charles Robinson  
> > wrote:
> >>> ...although he ended up with some great shots, he could also just as 
> >>> easily ended up dead.
> >>> 
> >>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1234929/Cheating-death-The-moment-British-photographer-narrowly-escapes-crushed-runaway-drag-race-car.html
> >> Now ~that's~ dedication!  Or stupidity.
> >>> 
> >>> Or he was too scared to move.
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> Too busy rehearsing his acceptance speech for the Darwin Awards banquette.
> > 
> > He looks more thanm old enough to have passed on his genes by now,
> > which makes him ineligible for the Darwin awards.
> > 
> > Personally I agree he's an idiot.  Although the laws of physics make it
> > reasonably easy to predict roughly where the car is going to end up, he's
> > cutting it much too fine (leaving a margin of safety measured in inches,
> > not in feet).  If I'd ever done anything that stupid at the track I'd
> > have expected my credentials to be revoked.  While I (or my estate) would
> > have had no comeback against either the series or the venue, they don't
> > need the bad publicity that would automatically ensue, and the other
> > working photographers don't need extra rules designed to protect idiots.
> > 
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Re: Boris PESO #039

[Boris Liberman]

Thanks, Sandra and Ecke.

Boris


On 12/12/2009 12:00 AM, eckinator wrote:

postcard shot - well seen Boris

2009/12/11 Sandra Hermann:

I love it!  It is perfectly simple.
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Re: Boris PESO #039

[Boris Liberman]

Thanks, Dave. It wasn't difficult at all.

Boris

On 12/12/2009 12:27 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Love this one. The lines, bike placement colours are are great

Dave


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Re: Boris PESO #039

[Boris Liberman]

On 12/12/2009 6:42 AM, frank theriault wrote:

Well, since you posted it especially for me, I feel it incumbent on me
to say something!

;-)

I like it.  My only nit is that it's a bit too dead-centre for my
liking.  I think it might be a much more dynamic photo of maybe a bit
were lopped off the right.  That way there'd be a nice "flow" from the
bike up to the shuttered window on the upper left.

Other than that, I like it a lot.  Colours are amazing - the bike and
the wall work well together.  I really like the choice of focal
length.


Well, the focal length was pre-chosen before we left the house. Most 
often I mount one prime lens on my camera and go on shooting.


I recall that I was rather limited by my choices due to the objects on 
the background that I excluded from the frame - notably the dust bins... 
But you have a point and I hear you.


Thanks!

Boris

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Re: PESO: Balls

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 12/17/2009 7:16:02 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
pnstenqu...@comcast.net writes:
> On 12/17/2009  1:26 AM, P N Stenquist wrote:
>> Stopped by the park and shot these  marble balls again. Mid morning  
>> light
>> this time  and a much smaller stop.
>>
>> K7D, DA 16-50/2.8, f16 at  1/40th, ISO 400.
>>
>>  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10359670

===
Like  reflections on first one. Nice one.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: Boris PESO #039

[Boris Liberman]

Thanks, Thibs!

Larry, it is the original aspect ratio - I did not change it. What you 
suggest seems to support what Frank indicated - the centered position of 
the butterfly. But I'd stick with my version ;-).


Boris


On 12/14/2009 9:57 AM, Larry Colen wrote:


On Dec 13, 2009, at 11:41 PM, Thibouille wrote:


Love it, simply put :)


Very nice. Saw it on my phone the other day, I'd crop the right side
just a touch and maybe a tiny bit off the bottom to help preserve the
aspect ratio.


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Re: Boris Peso #038

[Boris Liberman]

Thanks, Dave and Jack!

Boris

On 12/11/2009 7:22 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

Agreed

Dave

On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:

Composition and exposure (rendering) quite nice.

Jack


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Re: Peso - PDML friends at GFM 2005

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In a message dated 12/17/2009 2:17:48 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
bori...@gmail.com writes:
On 12/14/2009 2:06 AM, ann  sanfedele wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/ybj9hg9
>
>  
http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Random-stuff/2607384_N3Nso/1/739962486_sypvu/Large
>
>
>  turning 73 makes me nostalgic
>
> ann

==
Looks  like a bunch of rednecks and one New Yorker. Heh. Nice shot, 
actually, thanks  for sharing, ann.

Marnie aka Doe  :-) Who gets nostalgic all the  time. (Hope my legs look 
that good at that age.  ;-)).

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Re: Boris Peso #038

[Boris Liberman]

Thanks, Paul!

But you're right, Frank. I should be more precise in my wording... Well, 
not wording exactly, but numbering... Or wording of the numbering... You 
see my point, don't you ;-)?


Boris

On 12/12/2009 7:21 AM, frank theriault wrote:

On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:58 PM, paul stenquist
  wrote:

I like "Busy Evening." Interesting and nicely composed.


I didn't even see "Busy Evening".  Boris said "a picture" and when I
clicked on the link and saw the blog, I saw a photo and didn't think
to scroll down to see if there was more.

Busy Evening is good, but Royalty is the one I really like!

Boris, if you're showing two photos, you should tell us so we know to
scroll down!

;-)

cheers,
frank






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RE: Does anybody miss the "new" equipment discussions?

[John Sessoms]

From: "Bob W"

> >> Yeah, politics! ?That Obama, what a guy, eh?

> >
> > I suspected you were a fan of Osama. Now we have confirmation:-).
> 
> No, no, Paul.  That's O-B-ama.  With a "B".
> 
> Him I like.
> 
> The other one, not so much...
> 
> (whew, what a difference one letter can make!)
> 
>  ;-) 


Yep. Ask Ramsay MacDonald.


Bob


Or more recently the Nigerian yellowcake letter.



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Re: Boris Peso #038

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On 12/14/2009 9:40 AM, Thibouille wrote:

I like 'busy evening' although (but was that possible?) I'd prefer
either faster or slower shutter speed (for its influence on cars
movement).


For some reason, I've a feeling of deja vu here as if you made a similar 
comment on one of my photos with the similar motif in the past. But I'd 
try to experiment more with shutter speed next time. Thanks!


Boris

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Re: PESO - Protesters

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 12/14/2009 11:40:27 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
supera1...@fastmail.fm writes:
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009  21:00 -0500, "frank theriault"
  wrote:
> The Hudson's Bay Company is Canada's oldest company, having  started as
> a fur trading company in the late 17th Century.  Today  it's a chain of
> stores.  It's flagship store here in Toronto is the  city's largest
> department store.
> 
> They still sell furs  (although it's a very small part of their
> business) and so they attract  protesters and picketers such as these
> two earnest looking  ladies:
> 
>  http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/12/protesters.html
> 
> Sort  of Canadian Gothic feel to it, eh?  ;-)
> 

==
Yup.  The signs are sickening but they are so sedate for protestors. 
Interesting  combo, good eye.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: PESO - GFM sunset

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In a message dated 12/17/2009 10:06:15 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
bori...@gmail.com writes:
On 12/17/2009 8:03 PM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
> Well, I can count on Boris to  catch me up  with the PESOs I missed. ;-)
>
> Marnie aka Doe

I am usually  pretty thorough but more importantly I am awfully slow and 
terribly behind  the unread message  count...

;-)

Boris


==
Both. Heh. So it helps  me catch up. In fact, glad you are doing it right 
now.

The thorough part  is the important part, though. ;-)

Marnie aka Doe  

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Re: Boris - PESO #41

[Boris Liberman]

On 12/13/2009 4:18 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

The prefer the second. Nice lighting that must have been a difficult exposure.

Jack


Thanks!

Well, I must admit here, Jack, that it is simply what my K-7 metered me 
in the matrix mode. I grew to rely on it more or less completely. It 
fails sometimes but the conditions must be significantly more difficult 
that on this shot. Though in principle one may see that some of the 
structure of the window on the right is blown out, so perhaps -1/3 or 
-2/3 Ev might have helped. But since no one mentioned that, it is 
probably not overly important.


K-7 is pretty darn good camera.

Boris

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Re: This is Britain

[John Francis]

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 08:21:07AM +0100, SV Hovland wrote:
> Sorry if its posted before.
> 
> http://www.photoradar.com/photographer-of-the-year-2009-winners-this-is-britain
> 
> What are they saying in Britain about this? Oh dear?

Probably not a lot.

But then, what would you expect for a website that gives third prize
in a "This is Britain:2009" competition (supposedly to show contemporary
British society) to a photograph that must have been taken in or before
2007?  Apparently they don't know what "contemporary" means, either.

On the plus side, however:  Their "What digital camera should I buy?"
Christmas buying guide runs over an illustration of a (red) K-x.


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Re: Boris - PESO #41

[Boris Liberman]

Thanks, Paul and David!

Boris


On 12/13/2009 4:08 PM, paul stenquist wrote:

What David said. I find the third pic very intriguing.
Paul
On Dec 13, 2009, at 4:57 AM, David J Brooks wrote:


Nice lighting on 2 and 3.

Dave


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Re: Boris - PESO #41

[Boris Liberman]

On 12/13/2009 4:11 PM, frank theriault wrote:

For some reason I like #3 the best.  Don't know why, I just do.

cheers,
frank


Well, one may wonder what would you have made out of this museum with 
your camera ;-).


Boris



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Re: Boris - PESO #41

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On 12/13/2009 5:11 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Boris:  3 intriguing shots.  I wish I could see the high-wire cyclist
better; that's a funny shot. I also like number 2; the light is nice,
and the art on the wall paired with the table set is playful. Again nice
light in number 3--and intriguing as well. Cheers, Christine


Thanks, Christine!

Boris

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Re: Boris - PESO #41

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On 12/14/2009 9:38 AM, Thibouille wrote:

I like number 2 and number 3 much.
Very nice lighting: good work :)


I only spotted the lighting, I did not create it ;-).

Boris

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Re: PESO - Catharine on Augusta Street

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In a message dated 12/17/2009 6:56:03 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
bori...@gmail.com writes:
On 12/17/2009 3:50 AM, frank  theriault wrote:
> I have mixed feelings about this one, for reasons that  I may disclose
> later.  Not mixed feelings about the photo itself,  which (if I can be
> permitted a candid moment) I have to admit I really  like a lot, but
> rather about the circumstances surrounding the taking of  the photo.
> Like I said, maybe more on that later.
>
>  http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/blog-post.html
>
> Leica  CL, 40mm Summicron C, Ilford HP5+ (they were out of TriX).
>
> Hope  you enjoy.  Feel free to comment.
>
> cheers,
>  frank

===
Bit grainy but a nice portrait shot.

Marnie  aka Doe :-)

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Re: PESO: Christmas cookies

[Bob Sullivan]

Boris,
I agree about the eye color.  I've never photographed someone with
such blue eyes.  She's a darling little girl who was wishing me Happy
Hanukah as we decorated the cookies.  I talked to her mom yesterday
and the cookies she took home were eaten in a day or two.  She must
have had 6 as we decorated them and ate lunch too!
We were invited to her pre-school Christmas presentation and party
yesterday.  It was fun to see the 3 & 4 year old kids singing.  And
bringing a 'healthy snack' to share hasn't changed much either...
cookies are still 'healthy'. :-)
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> Bob, I am thinking that you should take more advantage of Kate's eye color.
> It is gorgeous.
>
> Lovely cookies as well.
>
> Boris
>
> On 12/13/2009 8:27 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>>
>> Here are some shots from baking cookies yesterday.
>> It was Kate's 1st time and she was very happy.
>> Children are a joy!   :-)
>>
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Kate#5414784520805877602
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Kate#5414784534257450546
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Kate#5414784549729324322
>>
>> All shot wide open with a new toy.
>>
>> Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: PESO - Snow Patterns #2

[Boris Liberman]

Marnie, I'd say that the first shot was somewhat more successful, if 
rather different than the second one. However I am at least half mathist 
by education which is probably evident by this comment...


Boris


On 12/17/2009 8:00 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:


The second night it must have snowed again.  That time it WAS a light
dusting that would soon melt in the sun. So I grabbed  the camera and dashed out
of the  house.

http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/snow2.htm

Comments  welcome.

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Re: PESO: Christmas cookies

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In a message dated 12/17/2009 10:07:32 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
bori...@gmail.com writes:
On 12/13/2009 8:27 PM, Bob  Sullivan wrote:
> Here are some shots from baking cookies  yesterday.
> It was Kate's 1st time and she was very happy.
>  Children are a joy!   :-)
>
>  http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Kate#5414784520805877602
>  http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Kate#5414784534257450546
>  http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Kate#5414784549729324322
>
>  All shot wide open with a new toy.
>
> Regards,  Bob  S.

==
Wow, first one, she's beautiful. Literally. Lovely shot  (her eating a 
cookie), just lovely.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: PESO x4: reworked cycling photos

[Boris Liberman]

Dave, to me the b/w version looks much stronger and in fact is a 
terrific shot. I can easily imagine this being on top of the newspaper 
article or magazine article about that cycling competition that you had 
photographed.


Boris


On 12/13/2009 10:45 AM, David Mann wrote:

Hi all,

Here's a followup from last week's cycling photos.  I've grabbed a
couple that I'd left out of the galleries and converted them to B&W.

Each of these pics is around 200kb in size... I should have resized
them a bit smaller as a couple are a little too big vertically for my
laptop screen.



I showed the original version of this last week:


You'll see that I've cropped the B&W version slightly.


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Re: PESO - Snow Patterns #2

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In a message dated 12/17/2009 10:26:29 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
bori...@gmail.com writes:
Marnie, I'd say that the first shot was somewhat  more successful, if 
rather different than the second one. However I am at  least half mathist 
by education which is probably evident by this  comment...

Boris
=
Thanks, Boris. Hmmm, maybe I shouldn't  have used the word, patterns. Snow 
traces?

Marnie aka Doe ;-)

On 12/17/2009 8:00 PM, eactiv...@aol.com  wrote:
>
> The second night it must have snowed again.  That  time it WAS a light
> dusting that would soon melt in the sun. So I  grabbed  the camera and 
dashed out
> of the   house.
>
>  http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/snow2.htm
>
>  Comments  welcome.
>
> Marnie aka Doe  :-)
>  -
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we
> created them.  Albert Einstein


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Re: PESO - 645 Seagulls

[Boris Liberman]

Brian, you evoked some rather grim associations also related to the 
WWII. So one may say, you've hit the bull's eye with this viewer...


Boris


On 12/10/2009 1:21 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

Another one from my trip to Western Australia.

At Geraldton there is a memorial to the sailors who were lost off the WA
coast when the HMAS Sydney II was sunk in WW2.  It's a particularly
beautiful memorial and it's focal pint is a silver dome with 645 silver
seagulls - one for each sailor lost.

The memorial is even more significant now than in the past - the wreck
of the Sydney (and the Kormoran, the German raider that sank her) was
located in 2008, about 100 km off the coast at a depth of 2,468 metres.


http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/186421/645_Seagulls.html



Cheers

Brian

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Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia
http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/



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Re: PESO - Sprinklers On

[Boris Liberman]

Frank, I *am* distracted by the building on the back. It is too heavy 
and too big to simply take for mere background...


Boris


On 12/12/2009 2:02 PM, frank theriault wrote:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/12/sprinklers-on.html

Taken back in the summer.

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

cheers,
frank




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Re: PESO - Gentoo Jump

[Boris Liberman]

On 12/11/2009 5:19 PM, AlunFoto wrote:

Blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2009/12/gentoo-jump.html Image:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/SyJermBXqUI/Ar8/9Z7yBSIylUY/s1600-h/_2MG3784-Edit.jpg

 Posted from a hotel room in London. Post-processing done on laptop,
so the technical quality may be low.

This is from the last day of photography before heading back across
the Drake Passage, so I will end my PESO spamming here, for now.

Jostein



Looks like the guy, err... penguin, on the left is somewhat apprehensive 
about following his jumping fellow... I know, I'd be very apprehensive...


;-)

Made me chuckle...

Boris

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