Re: LR 3.0 peculiarity
On 8/26/2010 8:14 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Regards your crashing problems, your hardware looks up to snuff although I'm not sure why you'd run Win XP 64-bit rather than Win 7 64-bit. Seems to me that Win 7 is a LOT better at 64bit operations than anything out of the XP generation, but then I don't do Windows so perhaps I'm missing some subtleties there. Oh, the reasons are purely tangential. I bought WinXP64 when Win7 wasn't available yet in its final form. In the office my workstation runs WinXP64 so I kind of prefer my work computer (10 hours a day, 5 days a week) to be similar to my home computer. So, there is no any *real* reason, just my laziness and obsession with convenience... ... But you might try moving that storage volume to a local connect and see if you still have crashing problems. If you don't, that's the culprit. I will pay special attention to this local connect suggestion, Godfrey, as it *seems* that once it crashes for the first time I doesn't crash any more until I reboot the computer, which would be well in line with some peculiarity of WinXP64 initialization of net interfaces. (My own system is all direct connection via USB2 and FW400. My 'in progress' catalog file has 78,000 images in it, is about 1.12Gbytes in size. I move too much data for even 1G ethernet to handle efficiently, that's why the direct connections.) I see. Lightroom 2.7 was bit-for-bit identical with Lightroom 2.7 RC. When Adobe puts out an RC version for public consumption, it's typically about a 98% probability that the release will be identical. I've been running on 3.2 RC for the past week, it's very reliable and stable. I've deleted 2.7 and 2.0 from my system now. Oh! Fascinating... Well, and you also suggest, I suppose, that moving from 3.2RC is 3.2Rel is going to be fully seamless... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Pentax Photo Gallery
On 8/26/2010 9:04 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I continue to be mystified by the official Pentax Photo Gallery and the process of reviewing submissions. I find that I am unable to predict what they will like and what they will promptly reject. Oh, I find nothing to be mystified about, really, Daniel. Have a look, the process is simple - photos get distributed (as far as I can tell, purely at random) and fellow PPG'ers are given a chance to vote thumb up or thumb down. Then, whatever passes certain threshold is reviewed by some kind of board or whatever and then photos either get accepted or not. Given the randomness of the first stage of this process, I see nothing that cannot be explained here. One day you submit a photo and the bunch of guys looking at it favors photos of this genre, and the other day it is not the case. So, the same photo can be either through the peer review stage or not. I should refrain however from passing a judgment on this process... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Buy My Book! was Re: what I've been doing
Doug Brewer wrote: mike wilson wrote: Doug Brewer wrote: Totally unsolicited. Thanks, Stan. And I agree. You should all order your own copy. If you want, you can send me money, I'll order for you, sign it, and send it on to you. Send me your zip, I'll calculate shipping, and we'll all be deliriously happy. Unless you don't want me to deface it. Can we do that without a PP account via the donate button at www.pdml.net? If so, send me a number for delivery to UK postcode NE38 0DX, please. yeah, I =think= you can, by just using a credit card, but I don't know how it works internationally. If anyone on list has experience with this, please advise. Worked for me when I donated. At least, the money left _my_ account.. Looking at shipping rates from the USPS, UPS and Fedex, USPS looks cheapest. First class international mail for two books would be right around twenty bucks. So, figure whichever version of the book(s) you want, add 6.99 to get to me, then another twenty to get to you. If anyone else in your area wants one, I can probably package a few more for not much more money. I will be doing this for Bob and myself no earlier than 48hours from now. If anyone else in the UK wants, speak up before then. Doug, can you PM me your address, please? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Anybody else going to burning man?
With the dust, people tend to wear dust masks or bandanas, which makes Black Rock City probably the only city where you are more likely to see a woman's breasts than her face. :-) you've never been to a whorehouse in Riyadh then? No I haven't. Is it worth the trip? it's a good way of getting stoned -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO - A Walk Around Southampton, UK
What I like about that one is the Friedlander / Eggleston thing that's going on in the background Hey Miserere: I like the gallery, very nice. I really like this one: http://enticingthelight.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/SAM_1884- small.jpg but the whole gallery is very nice. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Leica's done with film
A couple of years ago: I took months to figure that I couldn't post in RTF, then I figured that I had nothing much to say. And if a man has nothing to say, the very least he can do is to *shut up* (Lehrer). A friend of Godfrey's, lurking and learning. Godders and Dunders. Sounds like a knockabout comedy duo. Well, you've already made a major contribution to the well-being of the list. By using the phrase 'lurk and learn' you've reminded me of the great British comic, er children's illustrated magazine, called 'Look and Learn', my sole companion when I spent 6 weeks in the school sick room as a 13 year old, and I now discover it's online! How to get a classical education and squeeze your pocks at the same time: http://www.lookandlearn.com/ http://www.lookandlearn.com/about.php Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Would you give up an eye to get one of these?
2010/8/27 Bob W p...@web-options.com: I don't think so. The 'cycl-' in cyclops refers to the shape of the eye, not to the number of eyes. 'cycl-' meaning round, as in, er, cycle. To talk about someone with 3 eyes you'd be more likely to refer to them as a triops. Dioptic Bob how bout Binocular Bob then? that would be a breach of the restraining order... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica's done with film
Bob W wrote: Well, you've already made a major contribution to the well-being of the list. By using the phrase 'lurk and learn' you've reminded me of the great British comic, er children's illustrated magazine, called 'Look and Learn', my sole companion when I spent 6 weeks in the school sick room as a 13 year old, and I now discover it's online! How to get a classical education and squeeze your pocks at the same time: http://www.lookandlearn.com/ http://www.lookandlearn.com/about.php Unless my mother has had another manic throwing out phase, the first ten years' production is stored at my parents' house. It's been difficult to find a modern equivalent, although there are some excellent DVDs. http://www.magicofmaking.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Leica's done with film
Well, you've already made a major contribution to the well-being of the list. By using the phrase 'lurk and learn' you've reminded me of the great British comic, er children's illustrated magazine, called 'Look and Learn', my sole companion when I spent 6 weeks in the school sick room as a 13 year old, and I now discover it's online! How to get a classical education and squeeze your pocks at the same time: http://www.lookandlearn.com/ http://www.lookandlearn.com/about.php Unless my mother has had another manic throwing out phase, the first ten years' production is stored at my parents' house. It's been difficult to find a modern equivalent, although there are some excellent DVDs. http://www.magicofmaking.com/ the online sample of Look Learn includes a piece about the Dover- London Road (Watling Street, now the A2) - including a picture of the George, the pub I mentioned to you last week where we once had a PDML session! I'm theorising that the illustrator enjoyed the time he spent in there, drawing the architecture :o) http://www.lookandlearn.com/LookAndLearnMagazine.pdf Next week's episode takes us to Deptford. And from there no doubt to Greenwich. I must buy it! Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ot: a play on words a day keeps the doctor away PUN warning , one photo reference
Thank you, Ann! I enjoyed those. A friend of mine replied with one of his: Position at a publishing company: Pun Intendant. Igor Thu Aug 26 11:34:28 CDT 2010 Ann Sanfedele wrote: These may have been seen by some -- I have a particularly good source for stuff like this Enjoy - ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT KBA vs LBA
On Aug 27, 2010, at 06:41 , Paul Sorenson wrote: ROLO? I tried that but it didn't work too well. Not enough grit, I guess. :-[ ROBO Jr. is what I should have typed. I have two! A red one I got in the early 70s, and a white one I bought at a yard sale in the late 90s. The red one works very well. The white one is crap. Mild carbon steel knives take a good edge easily, they just don't keep it for more than a few months of use. Found a photo of one - on eBay! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?VISuperSizeitem=180520670243 And a red one like mine on CyberAttic. http://www.cyberattic.com/stores/shaysplace/items/977817/item977817cyberattic.html I like ROLOs as well. http://roogdesign.com/rolo/rolo-1.gif -p On 8/27/2010 12:09 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote: Chicago brand cheap carbon steel, two sets. Easy to sharpen, sharpen often with ROLO. :-) That's the way I roll, peeps! Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com There is no off position to the genius switch. Genius can, however, be observed as insanity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Lawn Ornament
Ya looks like its being used for something other than intended.:-) On my bike rides this summer i am seeing more of these being used. Maybe not so much for the environment, but the new houses up here have a front lawn the size of my ass. No need for a gas mower. Dave On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:24 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps they were thinking that by bringing it out and letting it sit on the grass for a day or two the lawn might be less traumatized when it starts the actual mowing process: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/08/lawn-ornament.html I just thought it looked kind of cool - you don't see those manual lawn mowers very often these days (although I think they may be making a bit of a come-back in these environmentally sensitive times). Hope you like. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESOs - Paddington Alive
I know I should link them together in a gallery, but I was taking it easy today, and not shooting narrative. As part of the Fashion Festival, Paddington puts in her significant contribution. Then again, it's always a fashion festival in paddo http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_08/10_08_nikon/01.htm http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_08/10_08_1conversation/01.htm http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_08/10_08_lucette/01.htm http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_08/10_08_debbiemartha/01.htm Actually three quarters on-topic this time. The Pentax 43mm L is such a nice lens to use. Don't know why I don't use it more often. D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs - Paddington Alive
Derby Chang wrote: I know I should link them together in a gallery, but I was taking it easy today, and not shooting narrative. As part of the Fashion Festival, Paddington puts in her significant contribution. Then again, it's always a fashion festival in paddo http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_08/10_08_nikon/01.htm http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_08/10_08_1conversation/01.htm http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_08/10_08_lucette/01.htm http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_08/10_08_debbiemartha/01.htm Actually three quarters on-topic this time. The Pentax 43mm L is such a nice lens to use. Don't know why I don't use it more often. D Oh, one more http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_08/10_08_fineproduce/01.htm -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica's done with film
Bob W wrote: Well, you've already made a major contribution to the well-being of the list. By using the phrase 'lurk and learn' you've reminded me of the great British comic, er children's illustrated magazine, called 'Look and Learn', my sole companion when I spent 6 weeks in the school sick room as a 13 year old, and I now discover it's online! How to get a classical education and squeeze your pocks at the same time: http://www.lookandlearn.com/ http://www.lookandlearn.com/about.php Unless my mother has had another manic throwing out phase, the first ten years' production is stored at my parents' house. It's been difficult to find a modern equivalent, although there are some excellent DVDs. http://www.magicofmaking.com/ the online sample of Look Learn includes a piece about the Dover- London Road (Watling Street, now the A2) - including a picture of the George, the pub I mentioned to you last week where we once had a PDML session! I'm theorising that the illustrator enjoyed the time he spent in there, drawing the architecture :o) http://www.lookandlearn.com/LookAndLearnMagazine.pdf Next week's episode takes us to Deptford. And from there no doubt to Greenwich. I must buy it! Not to mention quoting McGonagall. No wonder we are so erudite. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: The Dream Cruise
Thanks Frank. Your favorite and ugliest choices seem right on to me. Paul On Aug 27, 2010, at 10:30 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:10 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: The first 47 pics are new this year. http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=633960 Runs the gamut from my favourite car of all time (AH Bugeye Sprite) to the ugliest car ever made (AMC Pacer). Terrific gallery, Paul! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica's done with film
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 4:16 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 27/8/10, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: Accepted. Let's be friends, but avoid this subject. Hang on mate - I didn't do anything wrong, I'm just apologising ;-) Mark! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: LR 3.0 peculiarity
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 2:11 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/26/2010 8:14 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Regards your crashing problems, your hardware looks up to snuff although I'm not sure why you'd run Win XP 64-bit rather than Win 7 64-bit. Seems to me that Win 7 is a LOT better at 64bit operations than anything out of the XP generation, but then I don't do Windows so perhaps I'm missing some subtleties there. Oh, the reasons are purely tangential. I bought WinXP64 when Win7 wasn't available yet in its final form. In the office my workstation runs WinXP64 so I kind of prefer my work computer (10 hours a day, 5 days a week) to be similar to my home computer. So, there is no any *real* reason, just my laziness and obsession with convenience... XP64 is pretty buggy, especially with consumer hardware. MS didn't get a truly usable 64-bit version of Windows out until Vista 64 (Win7 64 is Vista 64 under the hood, there are no significant non-UI differences in the 64 bit version) and driver support for XP 64 is poor. Note that XP 64 is not officially supported by LR, official support is XP SP3, Vista Home Premium or betetr (32 64) and Win7 (32 64). Personally I run XP 32 at work with Themes off and Vista 64 at home, with Themes off. There's not that much in the way of difference aside from Vista's better Explorer and Start menu organization. Both otherwise look and act like Win2000. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica's done with film
From: mike wilson John Sessoms wrote: From: David Savage Maybe so, but they gave us crumpets So, what's the difference between a crumpet and an English muffin? ... and Cotty, get your mind out of the gutter! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMNKh0Zp4pw I didn't even know Kinkade had a YouTube channel. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: The Pentax Photo Gallery
From: Daniel J. Matyola I continue to be mystified by the official Pentax Photo Gallery and the process of reviewing submissions. I find that I am unable to predict what they will like and what they will promptly reject. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXMz4TKrL-A -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: The Dream Cruise
Lots of fun, Paul. The cars look great, and your eye has really captured the whacky fun had during this event. Weren't we supposed to have a PDML meet this year for the Dream Cruise? :-) Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 6:29 AM Subject: Re: GESO: The Dream Cruise Thanks Frank. Your favorite and ugliest choices seem right on to me. Paul On Aug 27, 2010, at 10:30 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:10 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: The first 47 pics are new this year. http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=633960 Runs the gamut from my favourite car of all time (AH Bugeye Sprite) to the ugliest car ever made (AMC Pacer). Terrific gallery, Paul! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: The Dream Cruise
On Aug 28, 2010, at 10:09 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Lots of fun, Paul. The cars look great, and your eye has really captured the whacky fun had during this event. Weren't we supposed to have a PDML meet this year for the Dream Cruise? :-) Cheers, Christine Wouldn't have been the best time for that. It rained most of Saturday, and I worked all day Sunday processing pics and writing a web article. Maybe next year! Paul - Original Message - From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 6:29 AM Subject: Re: GESO: The Dream Cruise Thanks Frank. Your favorite and ugliest choices seem right on to me. Paul On Aug 27, 2010, at 10:30 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:10 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: The first 47 pics are new this year. http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=633960 Runs the gamut from my favourite car of all time (AH Bugeye Sprite) to the ugliest car ever made (AMC Pacer). Terrific gallery, Paul! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: LR 3.0 peculiarity
On 8/28/2010 4:09 PM, Adam Maas wrote: XP64 is pretty buggy, especially with consumer hardware. MS didn't get a truly usable 64-bit version of Windows out until Vista 64 (Win7 64 is Vista 64 under the hood, there are no significant non-UI differences in the 64 bit version) and driver support for XP 64 is poor. Note that XP 64 is not officially supported by LR, official support is XP SP3, Vista Home Premium or betetr (32 64) and Win7 (32 64). Well, courses for horses, obviously. Both at work and at home XP64 SP2 has been very stable. If it breaks down or if I have to upgrade h/w, I'll give Win7 proper consideration. Meanwhile, especially at home I prefer to adhere to if it ain't broken, don't fix it mantra... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT More local photogs rights controversy
From: steve harley On 2010-08-26 08:05 , William Robb wrote: -- From: Rob Studdert Subject: OT More local photogs rights controversy http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/08/26/2993756.htm Not unusual. I've run into that a few times in National Parks in the USA, though not Canada as of yet. i did not know there were any such restrictions in US national parks, but looking around i see for example in Denali there are special access permits for professional photographers -- they allow use of a private vehicle which is otherwise not permitted, so in contrast to a restriction, this seems like special access that others don't get http://www.nps.gov/dena/parkmgmt/propho2.htm in Capitol Reef NP, Utah, i see a different type of rule -- only commercial photography which may interfere with normal park visitation requires a permit http://www.nps.gov/care/planyourvisit/comfilmphoto.htm obviously this is a small sample; are there national parks where photography is restricted in less reasonable ways? the situation is different on some US Native American reservations; for example i have visited Acoma Pueblo in New Mexico; while this is a beautiful natural area, and contains also amazing historic structures, it is also still the active residence of a large number of people who also collectively own the land; so i fully understand that camera permits are required as a way to make sure Acoma has a contract with the photographer making clear rights and responsibilities in the case at hand, Ulura-Kata Tjuta National Park, seems to be a bit of a hybrid -- respect for indigenous people is clearly the objective, but the article questions whether the Australian government is the perfect steward for that respect The way I read it was the complaint in Ulura-Kata Tjuta National Park was they were applying an overly restrictive interpretation to what was commercial work, i.e. anyone with an SLR camera. That happened a couple of times in U.S. National Parks back in the 90s, but it seems like the National Park Service has made a real effort to educate their employees. The interfere with normal park visitation usually applies if you want to close off an area for your exclusive use during your shoot, or if you're bringing in so much equipment and crew that there's no room left for other visitors. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT More local photogs rights controversy
From: Ken Waller he photo permits for professionals in Denali are severely restricted and not available to all that apply. There is only one two lane road, around 90 miles long, in Denali and most of the road traffic is for the park run tour busses. In some places there is absolutely no place for a vehicle to park off road. The pros that do get permits are restricted to having their vehicles off the road during specific hours. In the off season the park road is open for a short time to Alaska residents and their vehicles. The restrictions are aimed at motor vehicles, not photographers. The professionals are not permitted to drive off road either; only to go beyond the gate at mile 15. It's basically a concession to allow the winners of the lottery to carry more equipment than you can fit into one bag a tripod. You can go every place the pros can go riding the park bus. You are limited by the physical dimensions of what you can carry on the bus, but they don't restrict what you can photograph with the equipment you are physically able to carry. The fall road permit lottery is open to everyone ... you don't even have to be US citizen. But you have to know to apply during the month of June. Most of the fall permits go to Alaska residents because they're right there at the park and more of them know when to apply for the lottery. I looked at this year's published list for the first day and only 46 of the 400 winners were from out of state and it looked like 90% of the winners were from Anchorage. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - A Walk Around Southampton, UK
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm back from my UK trip, and I'm happy to report that I both took photos, and was not stopped by the police for doing so. I'll have some from London in a few days, but for now here's a small gallery from a jet-lagged walk around Southampton: http://enticingthelight.com/2010/08/17/a-photowalk-with-the-samsung-nx10-and-30mm-f2/ You'll excuse me for having taken them with the Sammy NX10 + 30mm f/2 -- until Pentax delivers us to EVIL, it's all I've got. CC welcome, of course. Cheers, Wonderful gallery, but this one in particular stands out: http://enticingthelight.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/SAM_1878-small.jpg The BWs are wonderfully rendered, BTW. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
metering question
I'm going to plung into this project for the next year. I want to photograph people under the el tracks downtown. I would like to know how folks might meter for this project. The 1st 3 photos were taken with the K20D last year, and from the sax player on those photos were taken with the K7 this year. All photos were at ISO 1600 except the sax player, which was 800. You can see I've some challanges with light and shadow. All 7 photos here are *as shot* except for correction to level allignment for the K20D shots. http://www.caguila.com/caguila/trackstest Big thanks, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso - piano
Thanks Frank and Steve for your comments. --S On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 7:33 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:37 AM, Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4917817657/#/photos/sobol/4917817657/lightbox/ Angry comments are always welcome. I like it, even though I can't tell it's a piano. Wonderful mood, intriguing composition. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT More local photogs rights controversy
From: steve harley On 2010-08-26 14:22 , Ken Waller wrote: The photo permits for professionals in Denali are severely restricted and not available to all that apply. There is only one two lane road, around 90 miles long, in Denali and most of the road traffic is for the park run tour busses. In some places there is absolutely no place for a vehicle to park off road. The pros that do get permits are restricted to having their vehicles off the road during specific hours. right, that corresponds closely to the info in the link i included; i was mainly trying to say that i learned Denali doesn't really restrict photographers -- it restricts everyone, and then it has a lottery to give a few pros special permissions that the general public doesn't have Yeah, but it was worded so that it seemed to imply the professionals got additional rights to photograph in places where the general public can't get to, when in fact, all they get is a slight easing of vehicle restrictions to allow them to schlepp more equipment through the park. They cannot take those vehicles off road. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Anybody else going to burning man?
From: Brian Walters On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 00:31 -0400, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Larry Colen wrote: I didn't get the job I interviewed for today, so WTF, I'm heading to burning man. I don't expect so, but is anyone else going? Well, I was going to ask but decided to Google instead. It sounds like a fun event. I note that, according to Wikipedia, there is a ban on driving, except for approved mutant vehicles and that Burning your own art must be done on an approved burn platform. Hmmm Apparently clothing is optional, which should make your photos interesting. They have VERY restrictive policies regarding photography. The organizers claim ownership of any photography you create while there and you must obtain prior permission from the organizers before publishing. You have to agree to give up your rights before they will let you in. I believe that's specifically aimed at preventing anyone from seeing those interesting photos. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica's done with film
From: Cotty On 26/8/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: So, what's the difference between a crumpet and an English muffin? The interesting bit is when the crumpet presents you with the muffin So, it's some kind of bun? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: The Dream Cruise
I'm sorry to have missed it. We should definitely do a PDML meet next year! Keep us posted as to dates Paul. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 9:30 AM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Aug 28, 2010, at 10:09 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Lots of fun, Paul. The cars look great, and your eye has really captured the whacky fun had during this event. Weren't we supposed to have a PDML meet this year for the Dream Cruise? :-) Cheers, Christine Wouldn't have been the best time for that. It rained most of Saturday, and I worked all day Sunday processing pics and writing a web article. Maybe next year! Paul - Original Message - From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 6:29 AM Subject: Re: GESO: The Dream Cruise Thanks Frank. Your favorite and ugliest choices seem right on to me. Paul On Aug 27, 2010, at 10:30 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:10 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: The first 47 pics are new this year. http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=633960 Runs the gamut from my favourite car of all time (AH Bugeye Sprite) to the ugliest car ever made (AMC Pacer). Terrific gallery, Paul! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica's done with film
From: Mark Roberts Larry Colen wrote: On Aug 27, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Brian Walters wrote: On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 00:14 +0100, Paul Dunderdale dund...@mcb.net wrote: A couple of years ago: I took months to figure that I couldn't post in RTF, then I figured that I had nothing much to say. And if a man has nothing to say, the very least he can do is to *shut up* (Lehrer). Ah. A Lehrer fan. You'll get on well here A friend of Godfrey's, lurking and learning. Better yet, a man that knows how to lurk. A skill that I need to acquire one of these days. My old usenet haunt (alt.peeves) had a one word faq: lurk. Whay wasn't there ever an newsgroup called alt.lurk? That woulda been cool. There was, but it got dropped from the hierarchy because no one ever posted to it. BTW - alt does not stand for alternative. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: metering question
Christine, Wow that is really challenging light when you're using a wide angle lens. The bright sunlight beyond 'under the tracks' really biases the exposures. The first 3 shots with the K-20 are just too dark. It looks like the K-7 did better, but those blow out the sunlight to see into the shadows. I see a lot of 'chimping' in your future. Or maybe HDR? Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: I'm going to plung into this project for the next year. I want to photograph people under the el tracks downtown. I would like to know how folks might meter for this project. The 1st 3 photos were taken with the K20D last year, and from the sax player on those photos were taken with the K7 this year. All photos were at ISO 1600 except the sax player, which was 800. You can see I've some challanges with light and shadow. All 7 photos here are *as shot* except for correction to level allignment for the K20D shots. http://www.caguila.com/caguila/trackstest Big thanks, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - The Lawn Ornament
From: frank theriault Perhaps they were thinking that by bringing it out and letting it sit on the grass for a day or two the lawn might be less traumatized when it starts the actual mowing process: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/08/lawn-ornament.html I just thought it looked kind of cool - you don't see those manual lawn mowers very often these days (although I think they may be making a bit of a come-back in these environmentally sensitive times). If you'd ever cut the grass with one of 'em, you'd know that's probably as far as they got before collapsing from exhaustion. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Pentax Photo Gallery
From: Boris Liberman On 8/26/2010 9:04 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I continue to be mystified by the official Pentax Photo Gallery and the process of reviewing submissions. I find that I am unable to predict what they will like and what they will promptly reject. Oh, I find nothing to be mystified about, really, Daniel. Have a look, the process is simple - photos get distributed (as far as I can tell, purely at random) and fellow PPG'ers are given a chance to vote thumb up or thumb down. Then, whatever passes certain threshold is reviewed by some kind of board or whatever and then photos either get accepted or not. Given the randomness of the first stage of this process, I see nothing that cannot be explained here. One day you submit a photo and the bunch of guys looking at it favors photos of this genre, and the other day it is not the case. So, the same photo can be either through the peer review stage or not. I should refrain however from passing a judgment on this process... Sounds like a charlie-foxtrot to me. They've adopted the worst features of both systems. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs - Paddington Alive
Derby, Those are just pictures without the girls. :-) Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 6:08 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: I know I should link them together in a gallery, but I was taking it easy today, and not shooting narrative. As part of the Fashion Festival, Paddington puts in her significant contribution. Then again, it's always a fashion festival in paddo http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_08/10_08_nikon/01.htm http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_08/10_08_1conversation/01.htm http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_08/10_08_lucette/01.htm http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_08/10_08_debbiemartha/01.htm Actually three quarters on-topic this time. The Pentax 43mm L is such a nice lens to use. Don't know why I don't use it more often. D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica's done with film
On Aug 27, 2010, at 11:19 AM, Bob W wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMNKh0Zp4pw Great work Mike - I love the way you got the pond to shimmer! pay attention - you could learn a few things Aaaghh, it's a digital emetic. It's like being trapped in myspace! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Pentax Photo Gallery
Hear..Hear, Boris! Clearly stated. Jack --- On Fri, 8/27/10, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Subject: Re: The Pentax Photo Gallery To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 11:16 PM On 8/26/2010 9:04 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I continue to be mystified by the official Pentax Photo Gallery and the process of reviewing submissions. I find that I am unable to predict what they will like and what they will promptly reject. Oh, I find nothing to be mystified about, really, Daniel. Have a look, the process is simple - photos get distributed (as far as I can tell, purely at random) and fellow PPG'ers are given a chance to vote thumb up or thumb down. Then, whatever passes certain threshold is reviewed by some kind of board or whatever and then photos either get accepted or not. Given the randomness of the first stage of this process, I see nothing that cannot be explained here. One day you submit a photo and the bunch of guys looking at it favors photos of this genre, and the other day it is not the case. So, the same photo can be either through the peer review stage or not. I should refrain however from passing a judgment on this process... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: metering question
From: Christine Aguila I'm going to plung into this project for the next year. I want to photograph people under the el tracks downtown. I would like to know how folks might meter for this project. The 1st 3 photos were taken with the K20D last year, and from the sax player on those photos were taken with the K7 this year. All photos were at ISO 1600 except the sax player, which was 800. You can see I've some challanges with light and shadow. All 7 photos here are *as shot* except for correction to level allignment for the K20D shots. http://www.caguila.com/caguila/trackstest Big thanks, Christine From my point of view, you don't have a metering problem. You *may* have a lighting problem depending on what you're trying to accomplish. Looks to me like you need to add light in your shadow areas to accomplish what I think you're trying to do. I'd use a cheap radio slave a Vivitar 285HV strobe held off camera (or on a stand) to provide fill light. I can also do it with my dedicated Pentax flashes, but it takes more work because I have to think about it a lot harder to get them to do what I want them to do. The 285 has a sensor mounted on the front and can automatically light the subject for a given exposure. If you set your camera at ISO 200 and set the 285 to the yellow band, it provides light to expose the subject at F/4. Your shutter speed then controls how much ambient light is combined with flash. For the first one I'd have set the camera to ISO 200, set the 285's sensor to the yellow band, ignore the dial on the side of the 285, and pulled the flash head back for wide. I'd install the optional WA diffuser in the 285 if you can find one. Shoot manual at f/4 1/60 - bracketing 1/30 and 1/125. And, there you have a four paragraph summation of my summer semester course in small format. FWIW - at ISO 200 Yellow = F/4, Red = F/8, Cyan = F/11 and Magenta = F/16 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: metering question
As expected, the k7 did a much better job of metering. I think you're about right with those. You have to expect the somewhat blown backgrounds if your subjects are properly exposed. I might shoot a test or two with multipoint metering, look at the histo, then adjust exposure comp if necessary. That's pretty much the way I approach every metering situation these days. Paul On Aug 28, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: I'm going to plung into this project for the next year. I want to photograph people under the el tracks downtown. I would like to know how folks might meter for this project. The 1st 3 photos were taken with the K20D last year, and from the sax player on those photos were taken with the K7 this year. All photos were at ISO 1600 except the sax player, which was 800. You can see I've some challanges with light and shadow. All 7 photos here are *as shot* except for correction to level allignment for the K20D shots. http://www.caguila.com/caguila/trackstest Big thanks, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: metering question
On Aug 28, 2010, at 8:13 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: I'm going to plung into this project for the next year. I want to photograph people under the el tracks downtown. I would like to know how folks might meter for this project. I might put the camera on spot metering and use that to set the exposure on the subject that I want to shoot, but I'd probably put the camera in manual, press the green button, chimp and adjust. At first, it'll take a long time, but pretty soon you'll look at it and say cloudy day, subject is under the tracks, background is in shade..., and know what setting to use. John's suggestions seem spot on. The alternative is to shoot anytime that there isn't direct sunlight, or to find spots where your background is in shadows. I'd look for spots where the lighting works the best, or the least bad. This may well mean shooting on a monopod late in the afternoon. The 1st 3 photos were taken with the K20D last year, and from the sax player on those photos were taken with the K7 this year. All photos were at ISO 1600 except the sax player, which was 800. You can see I've some challanges with light and shadow. All 7 photos here are *as shot* except for correction to level allignment for the K20D shots. http://www.caguila.com/caguila/trackstest Big thanks, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: metering question
Christine - this looks like an interesting project for many reasons. I can't give you any specifics, but here are a few things to think about. This is a situation where shooting in raw can be very helpful. You'll be able to squeeze more dynamic range from your images with raw originals. Maybe a stop or two. The new processing engine and noise reduction in the latest versions of Adobe Camera Raw and/or Lightroom have made a big difference when shooting at high ISO settings. I'm feeling like I can safely go at least 1 full stop higher with the new software. This is also one of those situations where a correct exposure is defined by you and only you. Even with Matrix metering, this isn't exactly an average situation. This might be one of those times when you consider experimenting with the spot metering option. This is a challenging situation and I'm looking forward to following your progress. Thanks, gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: I'm going to plung into this project for the next year. I want to photograph people under the el tracks downtown. I would like to know how folks might meter for this project. The 1st 3 photos were taken with the K20D last year, and from the sax player on those photos were taken with the K7 this year. All photos were at ISO 1600 except the sax player, which was 800. You can see I've some challanges with light and shadow. All 7 photos here are *as shot* except for correction to level allignment for the K20D shots. http://www.caguila.com/caguila/trackstest Big thanks, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Leica's done with film
Well, you've already made a major contribution to the well-being of the list. By using the phrase 'lurk and learn' you've reminded me of the great British comic, er children's illustrated magazine, called 'Look and Learn', my sole companion when I spent 6 weeks in the school sick room as a 13 year old, and I now discover it's online! How to get a classical education and squeeze your pocks at the same time: http://www.lookandlearn.com/ http://www.lookandlearn.com/about.php Unless my mother has had another manic throwing out phase, the first ten years' production is stored at my parents' house. It's been difficult to find a modern equivalent, although there are some excellent DVDs. http://www.magicofmaking.com/ the online sample of Look Learn includes a piece about the Dover- London Road (Watling Street, now the A2) - including a picture of the George, the pub I mentioned to you last week where we once had a PDML session! I'm theorising that the illustrator enjoyed the time he spent in there, drawing the architecture :o) http://www.lookandlearn.com/LookAndLearnMagazine.pdf Next week's episode takes us to Deptford. And from there no doubt to Greenwich. I must buy it! Not to mention quoting McGonagall. No wonder we are so erudite. I suspect that was a deliberate attempt to warp young minds. At the Friday afternoon editorial meeting someone jokingly suggested printing one, just to mess with young heads, but in order to get it by they had to do a worthy article about the Tay Bridge, which frankly no-one would remember but for the great rhymster's magnum opus. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: LR 3.0 peculiarity
On 8/28/2010 4:09 PM, Adam Maas wrote: XP64 is pretty buggy, especially with consumer hardware. MS didn't get a truly usable 64-bit version of Windows out until Vista 64 (Win7 64 is Vista 64 under the hood, there are no significant non-UI differences in the 64 bit version) and driver support for XP 64 is poor. Note that XP 64 is not officially supported by LR, official support is XP SP3, Vista Home Premium or betetr (32 64) and Win7 (32 64). Well, courses for horses, obviously. Both at work and at home XP64 SP2 has been very stable. If it breaks down or if I have to upgrade h/w, I'll give Win7 proper consideration. Meanwhile, especially at home I prefer to adhere to if it ain't broken, don't fix it mantra... your LR problems suggest that it might be broke. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: metering question
I'm going to plung into this project for the next year. I want to photograph people under the el tracks downtown. I would like to know how folks might meter for this project. The 1st 3 photos were taken with the K20D last year, and from the sax player on those photos were taken with the K7 this year. All photos were at ISO 1600 except the sax player, which was 800. You can see I've some challanges with light and shadow. All 7 photos here are *as shot* except for correction to level allignment for the K20D shots. http://www.caguila.com/caguila/trackstest I would shoot at the sensor's 'natural' iso - 100, 160 or whatever, which will give you the most dynamic range. Meter for the highlights and use the histogram to make sure you're exposing as far to the right as you can. Then use LR to pull the shadows to the left if that's needed. If you do this you will ensure the maximum range without blowing out the highlights. If the shadows turn to black then you've lost less then you would if you hadn't expoised to the right. If you want detail in the shadows then you need to be very careful that you exclude extreme highlights from the frame. It's the same as shooting slides, except for the histogram trick. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - The Lawn Ornament
Ya looks like its being used for something other than intended.:-) On my bike rides this summer i am seeing more of these being used. Maybe not so much for the environment, but the new houses up here have a front lawn the size of my ass. No need for a gas mower. Dave post a picture of your ass to we can see if that means big or small. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: metering question
Christine Aguila wrote: I'm going to plung into this project for the next year. I want to photograph people under the el tracks downtown. I would like to know how folks might meter for this project. The 1st 3 photos were taken with the K20D last year, and from the sax player on those photos were taken with the K7 this year. All photos were at ISO 1600 except the sax player, which was 800. You can see I've some challanges with light and shadow. All 7 photos here are *as shot* except for correction to level allignment for the K20D shots. http://www.caguila.com/caguila/trackstest Big thanks, Christine I like the first two more than the rest. How bizarre is that? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica's done with film
Larry Colen wrote: On Aug 27, 2010, at 11:19 AM, Bob W wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMNKh0Zp4pw Great work Mike - I love the way you got the pond to shimmer! pay attention - you could learn a few things Aaaghh, it's a digital emetic. It's like being trapped in myspace! My work here is done. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica's done with film
Bob W wrote: Well, you've already made a major contribution to the well-being of the list. By using the phrase 'lurk and learn' you've reminded me of the great British comic, er children's illustrated magazine, called 'Look and Learn', my sole companion when I spent 6 weeks in the school sick room as a 13 year old, and I now discover it's online! How to get a classical education and squeeze your pocks at the same time: http://www.lookandlearn.com/ http://www.lookandlearn.com/about.php Unless my mother has had another manic throwing out phase, the first ten years' production is stored at my parents' house. It's been difficult to find a modern equivalent, although there are some excellent DVDs. http://www.magicofmaking.com/ the online sample of Look Learn includes a piece about the Dover- London Road (Watling Street, now the A2) - including a picture of the George, the pub I mentioned to you last week where we once had a PDML session! I'm theorising that the illustrator enjoyed the time he spent in there, drawing the architecture :o) http://www.lookandlearn.com/LookAndLearnMagazine.pdf Next week's episode takes us to Deptford. And from there no doubt to Greenwich. I must buy it! Not to mention quoting McGonagall. No wonder we are so erudite. I suspect that was a deliberate attempt to warp young minds. At the Friday afternoon editorial meeting someone jokingly suggested printing one, just to mess with young heads, but in order to get it by they had to do a worthy article about the Tay Bridge, which frankly no-one would remember but for the great rhymster's magnum opus. I think I'll try to find time tonight to watch the Peter Sellers/Spike Milligan film about WMc., that I have on DVD somewhere. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cosina-Voigtlander joins micro-4/3
- Original Message From: Miserere miser...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 6:21:16 AM Subject: Cosina-Voigtlander joins micro-4/3 It's made sense all along: http://www.olympus-global.com/en/news/2010b/nr100826mfourthirdse.html http://www.dpreview.com/news/1008/10082619cosinamicrofourthirds.asp They'll be releasing the Nokton 25mm f/0.95 next month as their first lens (for a little under $1,200). Talk about entering the arena with a bang :-) --M. For less money, if you can find one, try the old angenieux 25mm (1 inch) f.95 lens in C-mount: http://cctvmonitors.org/cctv-lens/the-mijonju-show-f0-95-c-mounts-lens-and-cctv-lens-for-micro-43-cameras-video-test Skip to 2:23 in the video. -Brendan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cosina-Voigtlander joins micro-4/3
- Original Message From: Brendan MacRae brendanmacrae1...@yahoo.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sat, August 28, 2010 11:32:38 AM Subject: Re: Cosina-Voigtlander joins micro-4/3 - Original Message From: Miserere miser...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 6:21:16 AM Subject: Cosina-Voigtlander joins micro-4/3 It's made sense all along: http://www.olympus-global.com/en/news/2010b/nr100826mfourthirdse.html http://www.dpreview.com/news/1008/10082619cosinamicrofourthirds.asp They'll be releasing the Nokton 25mm f/0.95 next month as their first lens (for a little under $1,200). Talk about entering the arena with a bang :-) --M. For less money, if you can find one, try the old angenieux 25mm (1 inch) f.95 lens in C-mount: http://cctvmonitors.org/cctv-lens/the-mijonju-show-f0-95-c-mounts-lens-and-cctv-lens-for-micro-43-cameras-video-test t Skip to 2:23 in the video. -Brendan Ok, well, maybe they used to be cheaper than 1200US, not anymore I suppose: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270604946285 eeeks. -Brendan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cosina-Voigtlander joins micro-4/3
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Brendan MacRae brendanmacrae1...@yahoo.com wrote: - Original Message From: Miserere miser...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 6:21:16 AM Subject: Cosina-Voigtlander joins micro-4/3 It's made sense all along: http://www.olympus-global.com/en/news/2010b/nr100826mfourthirdse.html http://www.dpreview.com/news/1008/10082619cosinamicrofourthirds.asp They'll be releasing the Nokton 25mm f/0.95 next month as their first lens (for a little under $1,200). Talk about entering the arena with a bang :-) --M. For less money, if you can find one, try the old angenieux 25mm (1 inch) f.95 lens in C-mount: http://cctvmonitors.org/cctv-lens/the-mijonju-show-f0-95-c-mounts-lens-and-cctv-lens-for-micro-43-cameras-video-test Skip to 2:23 in the video. -Brendan Good bloody luck, the Angenieux's are regularly going for over $1000 these days and don't even fully cover m4/3rds. The 50/0.95's do cover 4/3rds but the 25's in C mount typically have mechanical vignetting in the corners since they're designed to cover a smaller format -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: metering question
I'll throw one more suggestion into the mix - especially since there's such a wide dynamic range between the highlights and shadows. Consider getting and learning to use an incident meter. Minolta, Gossen, Pentax, Sekonic are usually considered the standards. I have a cheapy (relatively speaking) Shepherd Polaris and have found it to be quite accurate. It will do incident and reflected light as well as flash and multiple flash measurements. If you meter the highlights and shadows accurately to determine range of exposure you can shoot manual and adjust your exposure for highlights, shadows or somewhere in between. http://www.adorama.com/SBP.html -p On 8/28/2010 10:13 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: I'm going to plung into this project for the next year. I want to photograph people under the el tracks downtown. I would like to know how folks might meter for this project. The 1st 3 photos were taken with the K20D last year, and from the sax player on those photos were taken with the K7 this year. All photos were at ISO 1600 except the sax player, which was 800. You can see I've some challanges with light and shadow. All 7 photos here are *as shot* except for correction to level allignment for the K20D shots. http://www.caguila.com/caguila/trackstest Big thanks, Christine No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3099 - Release Date: 08/28/10 01:34:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: metering question
I use my istDS camera in manual mode most of the time. I use the LCD and histogram as my meter and shoot raw. Works good for me. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Join the CD PLAYER DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Sorenson Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 2:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: metering question I'll throw one more suggestion into the mix - especially since there's such a wide dynamic range between the highlights and shadows. Consider getting and learning to use an incident meter. Minolta, Gossen, Pentax, Sekonic are usually considered the standards. I have a cheapy (relatively speaking) Shepherd Polaris and have found it to be quite accurate. It will do incident and reflected light as well as flash and multiple flash measurements. If you meter the highlights and shadows accurately to determine range of exposure you can shoot manual and adjust your exposure for highlights, shadows or somewhere in between. http://www.adorama.com/SBP.html -p On 8/28/2010 10:13 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: I'm going to plung into this project for the next year. I want to photograph people under the el tracks downtown. I would like to know how folks might meter for this project. The 1st 3 photos were taken with the K20D last year, and from the sax player on those photos were taken with the K7 this year. All photos were at ISO 1600 except the sax player, which was 800. You can see I've some challanges with light and shadow. All 7 photos here are *as shot* except for correction to level allignment for the K20D shots. http://www.caguila.com/caguila/trackstest Big thanks, Christine No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3099 - Release Date: 08/28/10 01:34:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT : Bran Everseeking
On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:59:50 -0400 Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: Seems our buddy Bran has had a heart attack and is hospitalized. He reports from his bed that he is OK. I know you'll join me in wishing him a quick recovery. Doug Many Thanks Doug Et al. I have returned home a bit more than a week after leaving. 6 new drugs, and three metal stents in my heart are supposed to help keep me well. dietary is pretty much the same as the old diabetic one excepting less fat and salt which i had started doing anyway. I guess I will be shooting the place where live as I do the required build-up of activity. I found out My son has been lurking here for a bit thats it for now as there went through my wrist yesterday Thanks again all. Bran -- Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition.- Robert Heinlein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT : Bran Everseeking
2010/8/28 Bran Everseeking bran.everseek...@sasktel.net: Many Thanks Doug Et al. I have returned home a bit more than a week after leaving. 6 new drugs, and three metal stents in my heart are supposed to help keep me well. dietary is pretty much the same as the old diabetic one excepting less fat and salt which i had started doing anyway. I guess I will be shooting the place where live as I do the required build-up of activity. I found out My son has been lurking here for a bit thats it for now as there went through my wrist yesterday Thanks again all. Bran welcome back, Bran. good to have you here again. please be good to yourself Cheers Ecke - Cameras don’t shoot people. Photographers shoot people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Buy My Book! was Re: what I've been doing
mike wilson wrote: Sent: 28 August 2010 07:38 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Buy My Book! was Re: what I've been doing I will be doing this for Bob and myself no earlier than 48hours from now. If anyone else in the UK wants, speak up before then. Mike - please add me to the UK list. Just so I'm clear, tell me who to pay, when and how much Thanks, Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Kids in a fountain
I've shot there a couple times and never had a problem. It probably helped that I've been with other photogs when I have shot it. On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:38 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 6:21 PM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: I went on a photowalk on Friday with a local group through Boston. http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4914522823/ There's more on my stream, but this is one of the best IMO. That's a terrific photo! As an aside, I was taking photos at a similar type of fountain we have here in Toronto (Dundas Square, FWIW) and someone came up to me and asked if I'd asked permission of the parents of the kids. I nicely informed her that I didn't need to do that, and in any event I was not up to no good. She started to argue with me so I walked away. Wasn't worth the hassle. The place is usually crawling with security guards and I didn't want to have to deal with one of those wallies. But, your photo's a real gem. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT : Bran Everseeking
Good to hear from you, Bran. The stents seem to work...I had three done 10 years ago. So far, so good. :-) -p (Trying not to temp fate.) On 8/28/2010 2:14 PM, Bran Everseeking wrote: Many Thanks Doug Et al. I have returned home a bit more than a week after leaving. 6 new drugs, and three metal stents in my heart are supposed to help keep me well. dietary is pretty much the same as the old diabetic one excepting less fat and salt which i had started doing anyway. I guess I will be shooting the place where live as I do the required build-up of activity. I found out My son has been lurking here for a bit thats it for now as there went through my wrist yesterday Thanks again all. Bran No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3099 - Release Date: 08/28/10 01:34:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
metering for film
I decided to run a test roll through my Argus C3 to see if it still works. I noticed that the hand held meter seemed to match the meter in my SRT-101 but was a stop or two off from the meter in the K-x. If the K-x said 1/60 the hand held meter said 1/250 sometimes. Other times reading off a grey card, they matched a bit more closely. So, I tried shooting test shots with it both at the hand held metering, and using the metering from the K-x. Oddly enough, there isn't an obvious, huge difference in the way that the prints look. I suspect that Walgreen's printer automatically corrects. I'm not too thrilled with the way the kodacolor 400 that I had laying around looks. Fortunately I still have a bunch of 200 and some 100. It is so weird going back to the C3, which apart from a few shots with my dad's spotty was the camera I started with. Remembering to wind the film and cock the shutter separately. Having to look through a separate window to focus. The shutter only goes up to 1/300, and so forth. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica's done with film
On 29 August 2010 01:37, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: So, it's some kind of bun? Sort of, it's a very moist spongy thick pancake designed to have large bubble holes, straight out of the toaster lavished with melted butter and honey they are almost as good as ... -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica's done with film
On 29 August 2010 07:53, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 August 2010 01:37, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: So, it's some kind of bun? Sort of, it's a very moist spongy thick pancake designed to have large bubble holes, straight out of the toaster lavished with melted butter and honey they are almost as good as ... A pic, not mine: http://img.buzznet.com/assets/imgx/1/6/8/2/0/3/1/orig-1682031.jpg -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Duathlon
I'm getting 404s on both your gallery and your site. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Sun, 8/22/10, David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz wrote: From: David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz Subject: GESO: Duathlon To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, August 22, 2010, 2:04 AM Hi all, Here's another sporting event gallery. I haven't done one in a while as the events calendar tends to be very quiet over winter. But this one was being held close to where I live so I decided that I really should check it out. Nevermind the fact that I'm trying to have a rest day today. http://www.multisport.net.nz/photos/1051-2010-08-22-contact-duathlon-series-chch-photos.html This race was a duathlon which involves a run, then a bike, then a shorter run. This one was part of the Contact Duathlon Series which consists of two races (seems to be a very short series if you ask me). This race also doubled as the Oceania Duathlon Championships. I was thoroughly unprepared but the event was very well run. The only thing that caught me out was that I became slightly lost trying to find the start line for one of the races. Each age group was started separately, which is why the ordering looks all mixed up. I had trouble with AF on the bike section because I was shooting into the sun... which meant the parts I was wanting to focus on were in shadow and the camera wasn't able to keep up. Yes I'm blaming the camera, it's never my fault. The metering was also giving me grief as it was exposing for the background. I had no choice as the bike course was long enough that it really wasn't practical for me to find a better spot and with so many events on at once I had to stay close to the start / transition / finish area. I managed to find a setting in the camera which apparently links the meter to the focus point but I need to read the manual as it still seemed a bit hit and miss. Cheers, Dave David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz http://www.multisport.net.nz/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT : Bran Everseeking
Good to have you back! On Aug 28, 2010, at 2:14 PM, Bran Everseeking wrote: On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:59:50 -0400 Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: Seems our buddy Bran has had a heart attack and is hospitalized. He reports from his bed that he is OK. I know you'll join me in wishing him a quick recovery. Doug Many Thanks Doug Et al. I have returned home a bit more than a week after leaving. 6 new drugs, and three metal stents in my heart are supposed to help keep me well. dietary is pretty much the same as the old diabetic one excepting less fat and salt which i had started doing anyway. I guess I will be shooting the place where live as I do the required build-up of activity. I found out My son has been lurking here for a bit thats it for now as there went through my wrist yesterday Thanks again all. Bran -- Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition.- Robert Heinlein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Leica's done with film
So, it's some kind of bun? Sort of, it's a very moist spongy thick pancake designed to have large bubble holes, straight out of the toaster lavished with melted butter and honey they are almost as good as ... Saint Delia, Our Lady of the Oven Gloves, shows you how: http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/type-of-dish/sweet/home-made-crumpets.ht ml B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Lawn Ornament
Looks like that lawn could easily eat up that lawnmower. Dan On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:24 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps they were thinking that by bringing it out and letting it sit on the grass for a day or two the lawn might be less traumatized when it starts the actual mowing process: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/08/lawn-ornament.html I just thought it looked kind of cool - you don't see those manual lawn mowers very often these days (although I think they may be making a bit of a come-back in these environmentally sensitive times). Hope you like. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: metering question
As a footnote to this, flash would do a lot here to bring the foreground exposure closer to the background. I'd probably start with a full measure and then try maybe a minus half stop. You won't even see it in the results, but the results will be better. Paul On Aug 28, 2010, at 1:01 PM, paul stenquist wrote: As expected, the k7 did a much better job of metering. I think you're about right with those. You have to expect the somewhat blown backgrounds if your subjects are properly exposed. I might shoot a test or two with multipoint metering, look at the histo, then adjust exposure comp if necessary. That's pretty much the way I approach every metering situation these days. Paul On Aug 28, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: I'm going to plung into this project for the next year. I want to photograph people under the el tracks downtown. I would like to know how folks might meter for this project. The 1st 3 photos were taken with the K20D last year, and from the sax player on those photos were taken with the K7 this year. All photos were at ISO 1600 except the sax player, which was 800. You can see I've some challanges with light and shadow. All 7 photos here are *as shot* except for correction to level allignment for the K20D shots. http://www.caguila.com/caguila/trackstest Big thanks, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: metering for film
I decided to run a test roll through my Argus C3 to see if it still works. I noticed that the hand held meter seemed to match the meter in my SRT-101 but was a stop or two off from the meter in the K-x. If the K-x said 1/60 the hand held meter said 1/250 sometimes. Other times reading off a grey card, they matched a bit more closely. The man with one watch always knows the time; the man with two watches, never. As it is with watches, so it is with lightmeters. So, I tried shooting test shots with it both at the hand held metering, and using the metering from the K-x. Oddly enough, there isn't an obvious, huge difference in the way that the prints look. I suspect that Walgreen's printer automatically corrects. I'm not too thrilled with the way the kodacolor 400 that I had laying around looks. Fortunately I still have a bunch of 200 and some 100. It is so weird going back to the C3, which apart from a few shots with my dad's spotty was the camera I started with. Remembering to wind the film and cock the shutter separately. Having to look through a separate window to focus. The shutter only goes up to 1/300, and so forth. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: metering question
On Aug 28, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Bob W wrote: I'm going to plung into this project for the next year. I want to photograph people under the el tracks downtown. I would like to know how folks might meter for this project. The 1st 3 photos were taken with the K20D last year, and from the sax player on those photos were taken with the K7 this year. All photos were at ISO 1600 except the sax player, which was 800. You can see I've some challanges with light and shadow. All 7 photos here are *as shot* except for correction to level allignment for the K20D shots. http://www.caguila.com/caguila/trackstest I would shoot at the sensor's 'natural' iso - 100, 160 or whatever, which will give you the most dynamic range. Meter for the highlights and use the histogram to make sure you're exposing as far to the right as you can. If she meters for the highlights in this situation, she'll have nice pics of the background, but the main subjects will be lost. If she pumps up the shadows to restore them, they'll be noisy as hell. Paul Then use LR to pull the shadows to the left if that's needed. If you do this you will ensure the maximum range without blowing out the highlights. If the shadows turn to black then you've lost less then you would if you hadn't expoised to the right. If you want detail in the shadows then you need to be very careful that you exclude extreme highlights from the frame. It's the same as shooting slides, except for the histogram trick. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: metering question
Christine Aguila wrote: I'm going to plung into this project for the next year. I want to photograph people under the el tracks downtown. I would like to know how folks might meter for this project. The 1st 3 photos were taken with the K20D last year, and from the sax player on those photos were taken with the K7 this year. All photos were at ISO 1600 except the sax player, which was 800. You can see I've some challanges with light and shadow. All 7 photos here are *as shot* except for correction to level allignment for the K20D shots. http://www.caguila.com/caguila/trackstest Big thanks, Christine Good project idea. I quite like the first two, graphic and understated. It's just me, but I wouldn't like it if there was too much fiddling with the light. Maybe with a short tele, take closer shots that are easier to meter, while still keeping those noir-ish shadows. -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica's done with film
On Aug 28, 2010, at 5:54 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 29 August 2010 07:53, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 August 2010 01:37, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: So, it's some kind of bun? Sort of, it's a very moist spongy thick pancake designed to have large bubble holes, straight out of the toaster lavished with melted butter and honey they are almost as good as ... Yes, a crumpet soaks up more butter than an english muffin, and it has a richer flavor -- perhaps more egg. All in all, it's superior. Paul A pic, not mine: http://img.buzznet.com/assets/imgx/1/6/8/2/0/3/1/orig-1682031.jpg -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: metering question
I'm going to plung into this project for the next year. I want to photograph people under the el tracks downtown. I would like to know how folks might meter for this project. The 1st 3 photos were taken with the K20D last year, and from the sax player on those photos were taken with the K7 this year. All photos were at ISO 1600 except the sax player, which was 800. You can see I've some challanges with light and shadow. All 7 photos here are *as shot* except for correction to level allignment for the K20D shots. http://www.caguila.com/caguila/trackstest I would shoot at the sensor's 'natural' iso - 100, 160 or whatever, which will give you the most dynamic range. Meter for the highlights and use the histogram to make sure you're exposing as far to the right as you can. If she meters for the highlights in this situation, she'll have nice pics of the background, but the main subjects will be lost. If she pumps up the shadows to restore them, they'll be noisy as hell. Paul it's a trade-off between that and blown highlights. Then use LR to pull the shadows to the left if that's needed. If you do this you will ensure the maximum range without blowing out the highlights. If the shadows turn to black then you've lost less then you would if you hadn't expoised to the right. If you want detail in the shadows then you need to be very careful that you exclude extreme highlights from the frame. It's the same as shooting slides, except for the histogram trick. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: metering question
On Aug 28, 2010, at 3:44 PM, Derby Chang wrote: Christine Aguila wrote: I'm going to plung into this project for the next year. I want to photograph people under the el tracks downtown. I would like to know how folks might meter for this project. The 1st 3 photos were taken with the K20D last year, and from the sax player on those photos were taken with the K7 this year. All photos were at ISO 1600 except the sax player, which was 800. You can see I've some challanges with light and shadow. All 7 photos here are *as shot* except for correction to level allignment for the K20D shots. http://www.caguila.com/caguila/trackstest Big thanks, Christine Good project idea. I quite like the first two, graphic and understated. It's just me, but I wouldn't like it if there was too much fiddling with the light. Maybe with a short tele, take closer shots that are easier to meter, while still keeping those noir-ish shadows. I like the suggestion of using a longer lens and showing less background. In any case, I am certain that this will be a very educational project to embark upon, and I'm very interested to read and see what Christine learns in the process. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: metering question
On Aug 28, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Bob W wrote: I'm going to plung into this project for the next year. I want to photograph people under the el tracks downtown. I would like to know how folks might meter for this project. The 1st 3 photos were taken with the K20D last year, and from the sax player on those photos were taken with the K7 this year. All photos were at ISO 1600 except the sax player, which was 800. You can see I've some challanges with light and shadow. All 7 photos here are *as shot* except for correction to level allignment for the K20D shots. http://www.caguila.com/caguila/trackstest I would shoot at the sensor's 'natural' iso - 100, 160 or whatever, which will give you the most dynamic range. Meter for the highlights and use the histogram to make sure you're exposing as far to the right as you can. If she meters for the highlights in this situation, she'll have nice pics of the background, but the main subjects will be lost. If she pumps up the shadows to restore them, they'll be noisy as hell. Paul it's a trade-off between that and blown highlights. The highlights are insignificant background elements.With film, exposing for highlights is okay. With digital, it's a no-no, because boosting shadows turns them to shit. In any case, boosting the shadows during exposure is the best solution here. Paul Then use LR to pull the shadows to the left if that's needed. If you do this you will ensure the maximum range without blowing out the highlights. If the shadows turn to black then you've lost less then you would if you hadn't expoised to the right. If you want detail in the shadows then you need to be very careful that you exclude extreme highlights from the frame. It's the same as shooting slides, except for the histogram trick. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: metering question
On Aug 28, 2010, at 7:35 PM, paul stenquist wrote: On Aug 28, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Bob W wrote: I'm going to plung into this project for the next year. I want to photograph people under the el tracks downtown. I would like to know how folks might meter for this project. The 1st 3 photos were taken with the K20D last year, and from the sax player on those photos were taken with the K7 this year. All photos were at ISO 1600 except the sax player, which was 800. You can see I've some challanges with light and shadow. All 7 photos here are *as shot* except for correction to level allignment for the K20D shots. http://www.caguila.com/caguila/trackstest I would shoot at the sensor's 'natural' iso - 100, 160 or whatever, which will give you the most dynamic range. Meter for the highlights and use the histogram to make sure you're exposing as far to the right as you can. If she meters for the highlights in this situation, she'll have nice pics of the background, but the main subjects will be lost. If she pumps up the shadows to restore them, they'll be noisy as hell. Paul it's a trade-off between that and blown highlights. The highlights are insignificant background elements.With film, exposing for highlights is okay. With digital, it's a no-no, because boosting shadows turns them to shit. In any case, boosting the shadows during exposure is the best solution here. Paul I meant to say, boosting the shadows during exposure with flash is the best solution here. Given the distances, one is not likely to overlight them. But a simple check of the results and adjustment of flash exposure comp can control that. Paul Then use LR to pull the shadows to the left if that's needed. If you do this you will ensure the maximum range without blowing out the highlights. If the shadows turn to black then you've lost less then you would if you hadn't expoised to the right. If you want detail in the shadows then you need to be very careful that you exclude extreme highlights from the frame. It's the same as shooting slides, except for the histogram trick. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: metering question
http://www.caguila.com/caguila/trackstest I would shoot at the sensor's 'natural' iso - 100, 160 or whatever, which will give you the most dynamic range. Meter for the highlights and use the histogram to make sure you're exposing as far to the right as you can. If she meters for the highlights in this situation, she'll have nice pics of the background, but the main subjects will be lost. If she pumps up the shadows to restore them, they'll be noisy as hell. Paul it's a trade-off between that and blown highlights. The highlights are insignificant background elements.With film, exposing for highlights is okay. With digital, it's a no-no, because boosting shadows turns them to shit. In any case, boosting the shadows during exposure is the best solution here. Paul when the highlights are blown they become very significant background elements. Exposing to the right of the histogram is all about exposing for the highlights, and a very important element of digital photography. Far from being a no-no. Furthermore, I did not recommend boosting the shadows, I recommended dragging them to the left of the histogram to make most use of the dynamic range if the shadows weren't already hard up to the left. I did suggest later in my original reply that Christine should be looking to exclude highlights from the frame when the contrast is too great. Personally I would try to avoid shooting under such extreme ranges of contrast unless I was deliberately trying to make something of them. Anyway, she has a range of options and would be well advised to try them all and see what works best for her -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica's done with film
I thought that a crumpet was the mate of a strumpet. Dan On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 6:45 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Aug 28, 2010, at 5:54 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 29 August 2010 07:53, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 August 2010 01:37, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: So, it's some kind of bun? Sort of, it's a very moist spongy thick pancake designed to have large bubble holes, straight out of the toaster lavished with melted butter and honey they are almost as good as ... Yes, a crumpet soaks up more butter than an english muffin, and it has a richer flavor -- perhaps more egg. All in all, it's superior. Paul A pic, not mine: http://img.buzznet.com/assets/imgx/1/6/8/2/0/3/1/orig-1682031.jpg -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: metering question
On 29 August 2010 09:55, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I did suggest later in my original reply that Christine should be looking to exclude highlights from the frame when the contrast is too great. Personally I would try to avoid shooting under such extreme ranges of contrast unless I was deliberately trying to make something of them. This is similar to my perspective, basically shoot with significant highlights behind if you want to achieve silhouettes, otherwise flash fill would be a requisite otherwise the highlights will become a significant distraction IMO. Flash fill probably isn't desirable given the project outline. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica's done with film
Crumpets are a North(west) of England thing. They are made from a yeast batter, and cooked in such a way that the upper surface is pitted with holes (from the fermentation). Mum always says that crumpets should be served with an egg in every hole. She served them with an excess of butter (they don't so much soak up more butter as act as a sump (the vertical holes) and a lightly poached egg (hence the egg (yolk) in every hole The crumpets that brave the Irish Sea and arrive at my table are a pale shadow of those delectable Crumpets Of My Youth. I have tried to make my own, but haven't yet achieved adequacy. There are hidden depths to crumpets. I'm sure Cotty would concur. Paul On 28 Aug 2010, at 23:45, paul stenquist wrote: So, it's some kind of bun? Sort of, it's a very moist spongy thick pancake designed to have large bubble holes, straight out of the toaster lavished with melted butter and honey they are almost as good as ... Yes, a crumpet soaks up more butter than an english muffin, and it has a richer flavor -- perhaps more egg. All in all, it's superior. Paul Paul Dunderdale dund...@mcb.net pauldunderd...@mac.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/dunders/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: metering question
On Aug 28, 2010, at 8:02 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 29 August 2010 09:55, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I did suggest later in my original reply that Christine should be looking to exclude highlights from the frame when the contrast is too great. Personally I would try to avoid shooting under such extreme ranges of contrast unless I was deliberately trying to make something of them. This is similar to my perspective, basically shoot with significant highlights behind if you want to achieve silhouettes, otherwise flash fill would be a requisite otherwise the highlights will become a significant distraction IMO. Flash fill probably isn't desirable given the project outline. I think flash fill is the obvious answer. You'll rarely find a pro PJ photographer shooting in daylight without a good flash mounted. It's the best way to bring light to the foreground. Paul -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - A Walk Around Southampton, UK
- Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 2:36 AM Subject: RE: GESO - A Walk Around Southampton, UK What I like about that one is the Friedlander / Eggleston thing that's going on in the background I'd agree with that, though I think Miserere's shot, and gallery, is a bit kinder and gentler. :-) Cheers, Christine Hey Miserere: I like the gallery, very nice. I really like this one: http://enticingthelight.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/SAM_1884- small.jpg but the whole gallery is very nice. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: The Dream Cruise
- Original Message - From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 9:30 AM Subject: Re: GESO: The Dream Cruise On Aug 28, 2010, at 10:09 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Lots of fun, Paul. The cars look great, and your eye has really captured the whacky fun had during this event. Weren't we supposed to have a PDML meet this year for the Dream Cruise? :-) Cheers, Christine Wouldn't have been the best time for that. It rained most of Saturday, and I worked all day Sunday processing pics and writing a web article. Maybe next year! Yep, we'll try for next year :-). Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: The Dream Cruise
Actually, for me any way, a trip to Detroit for Dream Cruise, is a lot easier than trying to get to GFM for some of those events. Lets ponder a WDC one year. Dave On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: - Original Message - From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 9:30 AM Subject: Re: GESO: The Dream Cruise On Aug 28, 2010, at 10:09 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Lots of fun, Paul. The cars look great, and your eye has really captured the whacky fun had during this event. Weren't we supposed to have a PDML meet this year for the Dream Cruise? :-) Cheers, Christine Wouldn't have been the best time for that. It rained most of Saturday, and I worked all day Sunday processing pics and writing a web article. Maybe next year! Yep, we'll try for next year :-). Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: metering for film
I have tested my hand helds with my istD and K10D and my D1. Digital cameras always showed a difference of several stops from the hand held. I use the meter on the camera now. Dave On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I decided to run a test roll through my Argus C3 to see if it still works. I noticed that the hand held meter seemed to match the meter in my SRT-101 but was a stop or two off from the meter in the K-x. If the K-x said 1/60 the hand held meter said 1/250 sometimes. Other times reading off a grey card, they matched a bit more closely. So, I tried shooting test shots with it both at the hand held metering, and using the metering from the K-x. Oddly enough, there isn't an obvious, huge difference in the way that the prints look. I suspect that Walgreen's printer automatically corrects. I'm not too thrilled with the way the kodacolor 400 that I had laying around looks. Fortunately I still have a bunch of 200 and some 100. It is so weird going back to the C3, which apart from a few shots with my dad's spotty was the camera I started with. Remembering to wind the film and cock the shutter separately. Having to look through a separate window to focus. The shutter only goes up to 1/300, and so forth. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Lawn Ornament
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Ya looks like its being used for something other than intended.:-) On my bike rides this summer i am seeing more of these being used. Maybe not so much for the environment, but the new houses up here have a front lawn the size of my ass. No need for a gas mower. Dave post a picture of your ass to we can see if that means big or small. Give me a sec to put the 16mm on the camera. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: metering question
Everyone has made good suggestions, and I aim to try all of them. I'd like to do a small gallery of this subject following the seasons and holidays. In the next month or so, I'll post my 1st go round. I see this as a challenging project, but hopefully the ole'college try will help to overcome the difficulties. We'll see how it goes. Thanks everyone--very much appreciated. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT : Bran Everseeking
Great to hear from you, Bran. Glad you're feeling better. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Bran Everseeking bran.everseek...@sasktel.net To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 2:14 PM Subject: Re: OT : Bran Everseeking On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:59:50 -0400 Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: Seems our buddy Bran has had a heart attack and is hospitalized. He reports from his bed that he is OK. I know you'll join me in wishing him a quick recovery. Doug Many Thanks Doug Et al. I have returned home a bit more than a week after leaving. 6 new drugs, and three metal stents in my heart are supposed to help keep me well. dietary is pretty much the same as the old diabetic one excepting less fat and salt which i had started doing anyway. I guess I will be shooting the place where live as I do the required build-up of activity. I found out My son has been lurking here for a bit thats it for now as there went through my wrist yesterday Thanks again all. Bran -- Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition.- Robert Heinlein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: The Dream Cruise
Dave, What is WDC? Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 8:05 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, for me any way, a trip to Detroit for Dream Cruise, is a lot easier than trying to get to GFM for some of those events. Lets ponder a WDC one year. Dave On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: - Original Message - From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 9:30 AM Subject: Re: GESO: The Dream Cruise On Aug 28, 2010, at 10:09 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Lots of fun, Paul. The cars look great, and your eye has really captured the whacky fun had during this event. Weren't we supposed to have a PDML meet this year for the Dream Cruise? :-) Cheers, Christine Wouldn't have been the best time for that. It rained most of Saturday, and I worked all day Sunday processing pics and writing a web article. Maybe next year! Yep, we'll try for next year :-). Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT : Bran Everseeking
On 28/08/2010 13:14, Bran Everseeking wrote: On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:59:50 -0400 Doug Brewerd...@alphoto.com wrote: Seems our buddy Bran has had a heart attack and is hospitalized. He reports from his bed that he is OK. I know you'll join me in wishing him a quick recovery. Doug Many Thanks Doug Et al. I have returned home a bit more than a week after leaving. 6 new drugs, and three metal stents in my heart are supposed to help keep me well. dietary is pretty much the same as the old diabetic one excepting less fat and salt which i had started doing anyway. I guess I will be shooting the place where live as I do the required build-up of activity. I found out My son has been lurking here for a bit thats it for now as there went through my wrist yesterday Thanks again all. Bran hi dad/ pdml people i am the son of which he speaks. oops i broke the first rule of lurking *hides* -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: metering for film
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 9:10 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: I have tested my hand helds with my istD and K10D and my D1. Digital cameras always showed a difference of several stops from the hand held. I use the meter on the camera now. Dave Reflective and incident meters read differently. If you want to compare, compare a spot meter (like the Pentax unit) to the spot meter in the camera. Expect the handheld to overexpose by a bit because your lenses have a T stop slower than their F stop so you lose a bit of light. Note that Nikon in particular tunes their meters to the sensor and may be well off what the expected reading is. The notional ISO on a digital isn't necessarily the actual ISO you're getting. Older Canon's and at least some Panasonic m43 bodies understate the ISO, with the actual value being 1/3-1/2 stop faster than expected. Some Nikon's (cough*D300*cough) are more than a little bit optimistic at high ISO ratings (the D300's Hi1, notionally ISO 6400, is in fact about ISO 4000) -Adam. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: metering question
Best of outcomes, Christine! I haven't read but a snippet or two of the many suggestions, but I'd gather that you'll work pretty much exclusively with a flash either mounted or in hand and with a variety of compensation settings. In my case it would be a complete crap shoot. Jack --- On Sat, 8/28/10, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: metering question To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, August 28, 2010, 6:15 PM Everyone has made good suggestions, and I aim to try all of them. I'd like to do a small gallery of this subject following the seasons and holidays. In the next month or so, I'll post my 1st go round. I see this as a challenging project, but hopefully the ole'college try will help to overcome the difficulties. We'll see how it goes. Thanks everyone--very much appreciated. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: The Dream Cruise
On Aug 28, 2010, at 10:11 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Dave, What is WDC? Woodward Dream Cruise Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 8:05 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, for me any way, a trip to Detroit for Dream Cruise, is a lot easier than trying to get to GFM for some of those events. Lets ponder a WDC one year. Dave On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: - Original Message - From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 9:30 AM Subject: Re: GESO: The Dream Cruise On Aug 28, 2010, at 10:09 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Lots of fun, Paul. The cars look great, and your eye has really captured the whacky fun had during this event. Weren't we supposed to have a PDML meet this year for the Dream Cruise? :-) Cheers, Christine Wouldn't have been the best time for that. It rained most of Saturday, and I worked all day Sunday processing pics and writing a web article. Maybe next year! Yep, we'll try for next year :-). Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
I just found a Tamron -F AF 1.4x teleconverter in my stuff
I probably got it when I bought someones bag of gear, saw that it was a TC and just tossed it in the drawer without looking at it. I just tried it out and it seems to work fine on autofocus. Does anyone have any experience with one of these? Would it degrade an image less than cropping it by a factor of 1.4? Another cool realization I had was that my Sigma 20/1.8 will work just fine on a K1000 body that I've got lying around, and it'll give me a view that is wider, and faster, than my 16-50 on the digital body. Albeit, that ASA 400 film doesn't seem to be nearly as good as ASA 400 on the sensor. In any case, it should be fun to play with. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: LR 3.0 peculiarity
On 8/28/2010 8:39 PM, Bob W wrote: your LR problems suggest that it might be broke. It *might* indeed. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: metering for film
On 8/29/2010 12:51 AM, Larry Colen wrote: I decided to run a test roll through my Argus C3 to see if it still works. I noticed that the hand held meter seemed to match the meter in my SRT-101 but was a stop or two off from the meter in the K-x. If the K-x said 1/60 the hand held meter said 1/250 sometimes. Other times reading off a grey card, they matched a bit more closely. So, I tried shooting test shots with it both at the hand held metering, and using the metering from the K-x. Oddly enough, there isn't an obvious, huge difference in the way that the prints look. I suspect that Walgreen's printer automatically corrects. Methinks that with negative film the precision of metering is less important than with digital. I am not saying that meter can show you any number, but that the tolerance or leeway is more with film than with digital, even if you shoot raw. Perhaps, it has to do with the difference in how film and sensor react to over and/or underexposure. Also, my understanding was (at the time I was shooting film) that if you give 'em a roll that is constantly over/under exposed, they might be able to compensate for it in a uniform way... I may be totally wrong on both counts as well... Boris P.S. I still remember going out with my Voigtlander Perkeo I folder and not having much problems with exposure at all. I'd take one reading just before I go out with my camera meter (MZ-6) and then set the exposure accordingly. Little folder has no meter of its own... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT : Bran Everseeking
On 8/29/2010 5:43 AM, dylyn wrote: hi dad/ pdml people i am the son of which he speaks. oops i broke the first rule of lurking *hides* How many lurking rules are there then? ;-) Bran, glad to have you back on list. Dear lurker, please take care of your dad. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: metering question
Christine, here is a number of ideas that came to my mind, numbered in
total randomness...
1. All shots you presented seem exposed ok to me.
2. K7 is more prone to burning highlights, therefore you might want to
go like this:
a. set it to spot metering
b. choose the point in the scene that you would want to be the
brightest, measure off this point, add a bit of positive exposure
compensation ('cause meter will make it gray, while you'd want it
brighter) and take a shot.
c. take care of the shadow areas in post
3. Why not to just bracket based on what your favorite metering mode
gives you?
4. Also, in K7 in liveview mode you can see the histogram in real time.
So you can probably be in hyper-p or hyper-m mode and play with exposure
by the histogram as you go. You might have to revert to manual focusing
though.
5. K7 has extended dynamic range mode, that proved useful to me, for
example, when I was in States this February and taking pictures in the
snowy park...
Personally, I'd simply take many shots and rely on my camera's matrix
metering.
Finally, cranking up ISO reduces your camera effective dynamic range
(easier to get blown highlights or totally black shadows), so perhaps
you might want to keep ISO below ISO 400...
HTH.
Boris
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