Re: Lens Profile Creator for Lightroom; Lr tips

2013-01-30 Thread Igor Roshchin


Tue Jan 29 20:01:51 EST 2013
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I needed to update to an Intel-based system to run LR3. I did ... I'm
glad I did, and a bottom end new system was much much faster than my
old PowerPC top of the line system. I don't blame Adobe for making
their business decisions. Although I wasn't pleased to buy a new
system at that time, I do what I need to in the context of the tools I
want to use. I didn't need to update to LR3 at the time, but it was
worth doing it for other reasons.

Sitting around being angry at Adobe is just a waste of time and
energy. You don't want to use their software? Go use something else.
There are plenty of options.

Godfrey, you are making an assumption, and a wrong one (even if you
only used those words as a colloquial expression).
I am not sitting around. I am busy with too many things to be just
sitting or even to be bothered with upgrading 2-3-year old systems
just for using LR4 while everything else I need runs just fine.[*]
I choose to be running LR3. By making their business decisions, Adobe
created a few inconveniences for me, but those are small enough
to avoid rushing with upgrades or changing the workflow (in any way).

The costs of upgrades are not negligibly low, and the alternative
costs (my time) are prohibitively high at the moment. 
(See a brief sketch of those below, in my response to Zos.)
Obviously, I will upgrade my systems, but when I decide, not Adobe.

-
[*] Moreover, there is a danger that some older software that I still
need might not run or even install on the new system.
-


But Adobe inconvenienced me enough that I am happy to yell at them
publically, even though in this case it won't lead to any tangible
result. But, maybe it would cause a bit of a resonance somewhere, and
next time, they would think for a bit longer before making their
decisions.
Besides, I despise when people (like Mr. Kelby) are using fallacies
to defend their decisions and are very arrogant about that. 

Overall, I have a very diverse opinion about Adobe.
On one hand, there are several good software solutions created (or
acquired) by Adobe, including LR. On another hand, every so often, 
I encounter something that the company does in an awkward
way that creates some inconvenience for me as a customer.
That doesn't preclude me from using their software, but often, I find 
my ways around their idiosyncrasies.

Enough is said on the topic, and I don't want to waist more time 
arguing about things we can not change.



Tue Jan 29 20:11:12 EST 2013
Zos Xavius wrote:

 Lr4 is a huge improvement over 3.

Bzz.. and a huge resource hog.. And the last time I checked, LR4 was still
running slower than LR3. (I don't know if they fixed that with 4.3)

 XP is  no longer supported ...

Sir, you didn't read what I suggested to read, and you didn't bother
to check your facts. So, you fall into the trap of committing the same
fallacy as Mr. Kelby. 

MS is still oficially providing extended  support for WinXP (SP3) until
April 8, 2014.
That is more than 1 year away from now (and more than 2 years from
when Adobe abandoned WinXP).

 Seriously do  yourself  a favor  and   upgrade.  A cheap  300  pc  is
 likely better than  anything  that   had xp  installed on  it
 originally.

I appreciate your concern and your desire to help, but...

You make conclusions based on wrong assumptions. 
You can choose to buy cheap PCs every 2 years (and complain about 
your problems), or you can buy well-balanced system with carefully 
picked _reliable_ components and have it running for much longer.

There are at least two issues/differences here: 1. reliability of 
a cheap PC (Will it still work in 4-5 years? Are you willing to deal
with premature hardware problems?) and 2. ability to
run and (more importantly, -) install certain software on a newer OS.
If you are only playing games and running software that you upgrade
every year anyway, the first scenario might be fine. If you need 
continuity and need certain software of particular versions (and on the 
same computer), then the second scenario is the way to go.  
Some software may not run on Win 7, or its installation may not be
available anymore (if it installs itself over the net, from the
manufacturer's server). And I have those.
And this is just one reason.

Also, I don't have time to reinstall every 2 years all the software 
I need on the desktop.

Needless to say, a $300 PC is unlikely to support two monitors
at a reasonable rate.


 As  far as your wifes laptop not  running windows 7...if  you put  at
 least a gig  or two of ram  in the machine (rather cheap upgrade I
 might  add)

Zos, if you read my message more carefully, you would have realized that
I was talking about a _netbook_. Netbooks (at least before 2011, those
that came with WinXP) typically came with 1GB or 2GB of RAM, and the 
limit was either 1 or 2 GB. In my case, I have 2GB,
and that's all what is supported. So, your comment about the memory is
irrelevant.

But 

Re: Anyone owns Metz 52 AF-1 flash unit?

2013-01-30 Thread Boris Liberman
Thanks for _quite_ reply should read Thanks for _quick_ reply...

One can have only so much tea in the morning...

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 7:06 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for quite reply, Zos...

 I just looked up e-bay and it seems these Metz 54 mz-4i flashes go for 400
 and upwards...

 I have Metz 40 mz-2 flash which supports older SCA modules... It cannot do
 P-TTL. It is reliable but it is big and it is heavy.

 According to BHPhoto
 (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/325242-REG/Metz_MZ_54240S_mecablitz_54MZ_4_TTL_Shoe.html)
 this flash weighs 480 g without batteries... That's too much to me...

 I think that Metz 52AF1 is good balance as it both does native remote P-TTL
 (which is something I might need to use) and it weight only 340 g. Finally I
 can buy it brand new here for about USD 350 which will naturally give me
 local warranty.

 I could buy Metz 50AF1 for USD 300 but I think I'd like to have this touch
 screen interface because I think it is easier to use...

 Boris

 On 1/29/2013 9:19 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:

 If you ask me the metz 54mz-4I is one of the best deals on the
 market. You can find basically new copies on ebay for 200 or  so. You
 do need to get the pentax foot and upgrade it potentially to the
 latest firmware. That  is kinda pricey @ 80. You can alternatively
 just use a standard hotshoe connector and run the flash  full auto
 and manually plug in focal length and iso. The auto mode is superb
 and extremely accurate (within +/- 1/3 EV). You can forget about all
 the  p-ttl problems. No annoying preflash either. This flash is also
 system independant...in fact its the last modular system from metz.
 You cannot optically slave, but a cheap wireless transmitter fixes
 that problem. I never used p-ttl and I always had consistent,
 competent exposures. Highly recommended. My flash bulb blew a couple
 of weeks ago (I have loads of equipment problems atm), but I love
 that flash so much I'm willing to pay the 165 or so to refurbish it.
 The lcd panel is nice and the controls are fairly intuitive. Just a
 suggestion


 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi!

 I am considering replacing my older Metz flash with this modern
 unit. It has touch screen interface and seems to be pretty darn
 good in terms of

 functionality/price ratio.

 Do any of the honored list members have this flash and can share
 with me their experience?

 Thanks.

 Boris







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Re: Pentax Photo Gallery Question

2013-01-30 Thread Igor Roshchin

Brian,

In Firefox, you can click on Tools-Page Info, then, in the 
new window, choose Media tab.
You can click on the jpegs in the list, while looking at the image in
the Media Preview box at the bottom.
Then, you can either use Save as (if you need to save your image),
or right-click on the URL in the list and choose Copy.

E.g. Bong's image that he used as an example has this URL:
http://c759846.r46.cf2.rackcdn.com/gallery/2013/01/20239377_1358055741_K53277BWppg.jpg


HTH,

Igor


On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Brian Walters
apathyman at lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 A quick question for PPG users.

 Is there any way to link directly to an image in the gallery or
 download an
 image from the gallery?  It was possible in the old PPG but I can't
 find a
 way with the new PPG.


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Rather good The Image Deconstructed

2013-01-30 Thread Derby Chang


I love this stuff. A situation that is actually a bit routine, and isn't 
even particularly photogenic. I would have picked the mirror shot as the 
headliner, but that wouldn't tell the story I suppose. It's the people 
that make the story anyhow.


http://www.imagedeconstructed.com/post/spotlight-on-meryl-schenker


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OT GESO - Australia Day

2013-01-30 Thread Derby Chang


Not Pentax, but since Rob was there, I'll show my feeble car shots. I'm 
not much of a car person, but I liked the Brazil Messerschmitt


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/01/australiaday/index.html


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Re: GESO Mannequins, when they're at home

2013-01-30 Thread Derby Chang



The last Raiders of the Lost Ark shot made it for me. Good Twilight Zone 
material





On 28/01/2013 12:42 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

[* Possibly NSFW, See below ... *]

You can blame Frank for this project. :-)

http://www.behance.net/gallery/Mannequins-when-theyre-at-home/6868595
or
http://goo.gl/P7nzw  if the long one broke.

Back in September Frank posted a PESO of some broken mannequins at a
store in his neighborhood. I asked him the address as I'd been looking
for an inexpensive mannequin to use for lighting tests. Sure enough,
the store, Then Again Vintage, had a small number of mannequins left
over from a sale, and I bought one. The clerk mentioned that they had
way more stuff at the main warehouse.

That turned out to be a significant understatement! As you'll see when
you look at the gallery.

All shots: K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 SDM, Tav, 1/60th, ISO ranges 200 - 3200.
Lightroom 4.3, Photoshop CS5.
All ambient light, handheld.


* I hate to need to mention this, but better safe than sorry. Many
images depict flesh coloured, undraped female mannequin torsos. If
displaying plastic boobies on your screen might be a concern, don't
scroll down from the initial image. Yes, the 1st image is 100% safe. *

Comments welcome, of course.

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Re: GESO - Venice

2013-01-30 Thread Dario Bonazza
Excellent! A wonderful gallery of pics, of which you can hardly pick one as 
the best of the bunch because they all deserve that.


Dario

-Messaggio originale- 
From: Jostein Øksne

Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 10:32 PM
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Subject: GESO - Venice

http://www.alunfoto.no/temp/Venezia/

As usual, very few pictures of people, but you'll know it was a PDML event
by the last image.

Shot with Q and 645D.

Warm thanks to Dario who joined us for a good round of... well you've seen
his pictures... :-) We had a great time!

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Re: Venezia

2013-01-30 Thread Dario Bonazza

Then count me on, again! :-)
Dario

-Messaggio originale- 
From: Jostein Øksne

Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 7:12 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Venezia

Fun series, Dario. I think you captured the mood nicely. That thing about
the coffee was Linns idea though. :-)
It was a great pleasure to finally meet you in person! Hope we can do it
again some time. We're probably not quite done with Venice just yet... :-)

Jostein


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Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 2:41 PM
Subject: Venezia


Hi all! Yesterday I met those folks in Venice, and it was a nice gathering 
for sure. Just see by yourself here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dariobon/
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Vertigo

2013-01-30 Thread Dario Bonazza

Asian + photographer + woman =

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2269568/Woman-ledge-Artist-creates-vertigo-inducing-images-perched-precariously-skyscrapers-world.html


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Re: GESO Mannequins, when they're at home

2013-01-30 Thread Bruce Walker
I was thinking The Matrix when I saw it, but Raiders definitely.

Thanks, Derby!

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 4:13 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:


 The last Raiders of the Lost Ark shot made it for me. Good Twilight Zone
 material





 On 28/01/2013 12:42 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 [* Possibly NSFW, See below ... *]

 You can blame Frank for this project. :-)

 http://www.behance.net/gallery/Mannequins-when-theyre-at-home/6868595
 or
 http://goo.gl/P7nzw  if the long one broke.

 Back in September Frank posted a PESO of some broken mannequins at a
 store in his neighborhood. I asked him the address as I'd been looking
 for an inexpensive mannequin to use for lighting tests. Sure enough,
 the store, Then Again Vintage, had a small number of mannequins left
 over from a sale, and I bought one. The clerk mentioned that they had
 way more stuff at the main warehouse.

 That turned out to be a significant understatement! As you'll see when
 you look at the gallery.

 All shots: K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 SDM, Tav, 1/60th, ISO ranges 200 - 3200.
 Lightroom 4.3, Photoshop CS5.
 All ambient light, handheld.


 * I hate to need to mention this, but better safe than sorry. Many
 images depict flesh coloured, undraped female mannequin torsos. If
 displaying plastic boobies on your screen might be a concern, don't
 scroll down from the initial image. Yes, the 1st image is 100% safe. *

 Comments welcome, of course.

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Re: Vertigo

2013-01-30 Thread Derby Chang

Love the concept, but they are oversharpened to a degree that hurts my eyes



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Asian + photographer + woman =

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Re: GESO - Venice

2013-01-30 Thread Derby Chang


Beautiful street work, even if the streets are water. Vendors work late 
in Venice



On 30/01/2013 8:32 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote:

http://www.alunfoto.no/temp/Venezia/

As usual, very few pictures of people, but you'll know it was a PDML 
event by the last image.


Shot with Q and 645D.

Warm thanks to Dario who joined us for a good round of... well you've 
seen his pictures... :-) We had a great time!


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Re: Anyone owns Metz 52 AF-1 flash unit?

2013-01-30 Thread Zos Xavius
Yuh my 54 is blown. I saw them going for 200 on flea bay. Though that might 
have been a bit presumptious.  They  are  rather desirable due  to their system 
independence. Either way the cheapest option for me is to have mine fixed, so 
that  is what I will do. I've long considered switching to a flash  that does 
p-ttl as a remote slave, but quite honestly I would prefer to use flash 
manually off camera and I use m primes a lot when shooting portraits, so p-ttl 
is out of the question  anyways. The autothyristor on the metz is very, very 
good and the diffuser takes it out to 20mm. Its not enough for a room sized 
group, but I'm  more than happy with it for most of my needs. The small 
reflector flash is useful too. I must admit it is a  large and heavy flash. I 
have considered making a hammerhead style bracket for it before.

Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks for _quite_ reply should read Thanks for _quick_ reply...

One can have only so much tea in the morning...

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 7:06 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Thanks for quite reply, Zos...

 I just looked up e-bay and it seems these Metz 54 mz-4i flashes go
for 400
 and upwards...

 I have Metz 40 mz-2 flash which supports older SCA modules... It
cannot do
 P-TTL. It is reliable but it is big and it is heavy.

 According to BHPhoto

(http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/325242-REG/Metz_MZ_54240S_mecablitz_54MZ_4_TTL_Shoe.html)
 this flash weighs 480 g without batteries... That's too much to me...

 I think that Metz 52AF1 is good balance as it both does native remote
P-TTL
 (which is something I might need to use) and it weight only 340 g.
Finally I
 can buy it brand new here for about USD 350 which will naturally give
me
 local warranty.

 I could buy Metz 50AF1 for USD 300 but I think I'd like to have this
touch
 screen interface because I think it is easier to use...

 Boris

 On 1/29/2013 9:19 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:

 If you ask me the metz 54mz-4I is one of the best deals on the
 market. You can find basically new copies on ebay for 200 or  so.
You
 do need to get the pentax foot and upgrade it potentially to the
 latest firmware. That  is kinda pricey @ 80. You can alternatively
 just use a standard hotshoe connector and run the flash  full auto
 and manually plug in focal length and iso. The auto mode is superb
 and extremely accurate (within +/- 1/3 EV). You can forget about all
 the  p-ttl problems. No annoying preflash either. This flash is also
 system independant...in fact its the last modular system from metz.
 You cannot optically slave, but a cheap wireless transmitter fixes
 that problem. I never used p-ttl and I always had consistent,
 competent exposures. Highly recommended. My flash bulb blew a couple
 of weeks ago (I have loads of equipment problems atm), but I
love
 that flash so much I'm willing to pay the 165 or so to refurbish it.
 The lcd panel is nice and the controls are fairly intuitive. Just a
 suggestion


 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi!

 I am considering replacing my older Metz flash with this modern
 unit. It has touch screen interface and seems to be pretty darn
 good in terms of

 functionality/price ratio.

 Do any of the honored list members have this flash and can share
 with me their experience?

 Thanks.

 Boris






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Re: resale value of an almost-3-year-old K7?

2013-01-30 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jan 28, 2013, at 13:11 , Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's pretty torn up. On pf, good looking k-7s are going for 400. I 
 personally wouldn't ask for more than 300 on a body like that. Especially 
 because it likely needs a good cla. You can upload images to pf and use their 
 exif tool to see the actuations. I did this recently and was shocked to see 
 my year old k7 @ over 30k.

http://www.myshuttercount.com

Interesting!

24,656 in 2.5 years.  Approximately what I'd guessed.  What's funny is there 
are only just over 10,000 K7 images in Lightroom, so my keep-to-toss ratio is 
just under 50%.  And I've probably kept twice as many as I should have!

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Re: YIKES!

2013-01-30 Thread Zos Xavius
You gotta love pentax for being different. :)

Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

I received an email from Pentax this morning, offering to sell me a
purple camera, or a pink and green camera:

http://jmtrk.thinkbigsolutions.com/w.aspx?j=280218503m=F0EC00E1F2FA48BC8BB4F0C2D6EE4322

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Re: YIKES!

2013-01-30 Thread P. J. Alling

I'm hurt, Pentax never sends me love letters.

On 1/30/2013 1:17 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I received an email from Pentax this morning, offering to sell me a
purple camera, or a pink and green camera:

http://jmtrk.thinkbigsolutions.com/w.aspx?j=280218503m=F0EC00E1F2FA48BC8BB4F0C2D6EE4322

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SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Aahz Maruch
Howdy,

Larry Colen made me join this list (I used to be a Pentax SLR person
decades ago, currently have a Nikon P7100, Larry's giving me advice on
kit to rent for a mid-May Alaska cruise, which will of course be Pentax).

So I checked the archives and don't see any recent threads about SD
cards, and I'm wondering what size and kinds of cards people are using,
particularly people with K-5/K-30.
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Re: YIKES!

2013-01-30 Thread Bruce Walker
Match your camera to your style -- sure, makes a lot of sense. Don't
bother matching it your technical requirements, subject matter or
anything so prosaic.

So what have they got for a guy who generally styles himself (if you
can call it that) in well-worn jeans, a checked cotton shirt and
sneakers? Hmmm, not covered there. Maybe a boring old SLR in boring
old black with some boring black lenses. Hmph!


On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 I received an email from Pentax this morning, offering to sell me a
 purple camera, or a pink and green camera:

 http://jmtrk.thinkbigsolutions.com/w.aspx?j=280218503m=F0EC00E1F2FA48BC8BB4F0C2D6EE4322

 Dan Matyola
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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Bruce Walker
Welcome aboard, Aahz!

SanDisk Extreme 16GB is my choice. You can't get any safer and
reliable than that.

I also have some older 8 GB and 4 GB Extremes but they mostly just
gather kit-bag lint as I've never filled-up the 16 GB on a shoot.

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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Zos Xavius
I use class 10 8gb cards.  They are dirt cheap. On a k-5 I get like  230 shots 
or so. When one runs full  I just pop  another  in. If one fails  I lost 10 bux 
and some pictures. That's almost the equivalent of 10  rolls of film so that 
should be  enough for a lot of people.

Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:

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Larry Colen made me join this list (I used to be a Pentax SLR person
decades ago, currently have a Nikon P7100, Larry's giving me advice on
kit to rent for a mid-May Alaska cruise, which will of course be
Pentax).

So I checked the archives and don't see any recent threads about SD
cards, and I'm wondering what size and kinds of cards people are using,
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Re: Lens Profile Creator for Lightroom; Lr tips

2013-01-30 Thread Steve Cottrell

Enough is said on the topic, and I don't want to waist more time 
arguing about things we can not change.

Plus this topic doesn't have the legs.


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Re: OT GESO - Australia Day

2013-01-30 Thread Bruce Walker
Great stuff, Derby. Really like the cops lined up under the sale
banner. Is the Messerschmitt that 3-wheeler? That's very cool.

I was going to comment on how grainy some of the shots looked as I'm
used to zero noise in outside daylight, and then I noticed the tag:
Bronica 645 and Tri-X. :-)


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 Not Pentax, but since Rob was there, I'll show my feeble car shots. I'm not
 much of a car person, but I liked the Brazil Messerschmitt

 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/01/australiaday/index.html


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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Bob Sullivan
I've have Patriot and Kingston 16gb plus some Patriot LX 32gb cards,
speed class 10 if possible.
I buy cheap stuff, less than $1 per gb, sometimes $.50 per gb at Frys.
The cards hold a lot of pictures (300+ each), and are tiny.
I get nervous having so many per card.
Take a laptop and download to it.
If you shoot like Larry, you'll have lots of pictures.
Regards,  Bob S.


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Re: Lens Profile Creator for Lightroom; Lr tips

2013-01-30 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:

Enough is said on the topic, and I don't want to waist more time
arguing about things we can not change.

 Plus this topic doesn't have the legs.

Un-hip to say more.

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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread P. J. Alling

On 1/30/2013 1:57 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:

Howdy,

Larry Colen made me join this list (I used to be a Pentax SLR person
decades ago, currently have a Nikon P7100, Larry's giving me advice on
kit to rent for a mid-May Alaska cruise, which will of course be Pentax).

So I checked the archives and don't see any recent threads about SD
cards, and I'm wondering what size and kinds of cards people are using,
particularly people with K-5/K-30.
I'm still using a K20D but the for what it's worth I use a couple of 8 
Gig PNY class 10 that are my primary storage. For backup I have a 
selection of 2 and 4 gig Class 6 PNY and Sandisk cards. I don't really 
see any difference in performance between the Sandisk and PNY cards of 
the same class, except that when newly formatted, the K20D reports that 
the PNY cards can record one more image than the Sandisk cards of the 
same size.


You might want to look into 16 Gig sized cards, to have a reasonable 
amount of storage per card, based on the difference in file size between 
the K-5 and K20D. I find that I can store about 330 K20D images on an 8 
gig card. (funny how spoiled you get, how did I ever get along limited 
to just 36 exposures on a roll of film, when did that become unreasonable).


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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Boris Liberman

Welcome, Aahz!

Galia (my daughter) is using 16GB SanDisk card. I think it is SD Extreme 
or whatever. I am using Patriot LX 64GB SDXC card (which is total 
accident, really, as it was bought for a very different purpose). In 
order to use it reliably, I had to upgrade firmware of both our K-5 to 
version 1.13 (I think it is the very latest one). Otherwise, every now 
and then the resulting image would come out unreadable by the camera 
itself and garbled in my LightRoom.


The link to my card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220496

On 1/30/2013 8:57 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:

Howdy,

Larry Colen made me join this list (I used to be a Pentax SLR person
decades ago, currently have a Nikon P7100, Larry's giving me advice on
kit to rent for a mid-May Alaska cruise, which will of course be Pentax).

So I checked the archives and don't see any recent threads about SD
cards, and I'm wondering what size and kinds of cards people are using,
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Re: Lens Profile Creator for Lightroom; Lr tips

2013-01-30 Thread Steve Cottrell

Enough is said on the topic, and I don't want to waist more time
arguing about things we can not change.

 Plus this topic doesn't have the legs.

Un-hip to say more.

Until then I was in agreementorso I thought.


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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Rick Womer
It's terrible that Larry has forced you into this.  We'll try to be merciful 
(maybe!).

In my K-5 I usually use SanDisk Extreme 8GB cards.  They hold about 300 DNG 
files (a lot more than the camera says it will hold when you first turn it on). 
 I don't like putting too many eggs in one basket, and since I'm not doing 
high-volume shoots (such as a big wedding) I rarely have to change cards.

Recently I bought an Extreme Pro 90MB/s card, and compared write and read 
speeds with a 45MB/s card in the K-5.  There was no difference, except that the 
faster card cost twice as much.

Cheers,

Rick
 
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To: pdml@pdml.net
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Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:57 PM
Subject: SD Card Survey

Howdy,

Larry Colen made me join this list (I used to be a Pentax SLR person
decades ago, currently have a Nikon P7100, Larry's giving me advice on
kit to rent for a mid-May Alaska cruise, which will of course be Pentax).

So I checked the archives and don't see any recent threads about SD
cards, and I'm wondering what size and kinds of cards people are using,
particularly people with K-5/K-30.
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Re: YIKES!

2013-01-30 Thread Rick Womer
That purple is ~so~ you, Dan.
 



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Subject: YIKES!

I received an email from Pentax this morning, offering to sell me a
purple camera, or a pink and green camera:

http://jmtrk.thinkbigsolutions.com/w.aspx?j=280218503m=F0EC00E1F2FA48BC8BB4F0C2D6EE4322

Dan Matyola
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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 It's terrible that Larry has forced you into this.  We'll try to be merciful 
 (maybe!).

I assume that anyone who associates with Larry can deal with the rest of us.

I mostly use a Sandisk Extreme 16 GB and a HP 32 GB card in my K10D.
Large, high-quality cards like the Sandisk Extreme are so inexpensive
now that I see little reason to skimp.

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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 02:05:42PM -0500, Bruce Walker wrote:
 Welcome aboard, Aahz!
 
 SanDisk Extreme 16GB is my choice. You can't get any safer and
 reliable than that.

I've only got the Ultras, not the Extreme.  I started off with 8GBs
when I bought my K-5, but when I was in Texas in November for the
USGP I picked up a couple of the 16GB cards just in case.

At that time the Extremes (45 MB/s, rather than the 30MB/s Ultras)
were a lot more expensive, but nowadays both seem to be around $1/GB.
Today I'd buy the Extremes. The K-5 might not be able to make use of
the extra speed, but maybe your next camera will ...

Larger capacity cards mean you don't have to change them as often
(a serious consideration in adverse conditions, or at big events),
but it's putting a lot more images at risk should the card fail.
I agree with Bruce that 16GB is a good compromise.



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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 02:45:37PM -0500, Matthew Hunt wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  It's terrible that Larry has forced you into this.  We'll try to be 
  merciful (maybe!).
 
 I assume that anyone who associates with Larry can deal with the rest of us.

We'll find out - Aahz will be trying the heft of my K-5  60-250 this weekend.
So if we don't hear from him after that perhaps immunity to Larry doesn't mean
that everybody else in the PDML is acceptable.

Does anyone have a link to the spectacular shot of an Alaskan glacier that
was posted here some time ago?  I'd guess it was a Denali shot by Ken Waller,
but my Google-fu is weak today.  I think the shot was taken with the 600/f4.

P.S. Aahz - don't believe anything Frank or Cotty or various Bobs say ...

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Re: Lens Profile Creator for Lightroom; Lr tips

2013-01-30 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:

 Enough is said on the topic, and I don't want to waist more time
 arguing about things we can not change.
 
  Plus this topic doesn't have the legs.
 
 Un-hip to say more.

 Until then I was in agreementorso I thought.

Poppy coccyx!

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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Bruce Walker
Camera gear investment: a few thousand bucks
Once in a lifetime cruise: many thousands of bucks

 I use class 10 8gb cards.  They are dirt cheap. [...] If one fails I lost 10 
 bux and some pictures.

Priceless!


On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote:
 I use class 10 8gb cards.  They are dirt cheap. On a k-5 I get like  230 
 shots or so. When one runs full  I just pop  another  in. If one fails  I 
 lost 10 bux and some pictures. That's almost the equivalent of 10  rolls of 
 film so that should be  enough for a lot of people.

 Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:

Howdy,

Larry Colen made me join this list (I used to be a Pentax SLR person
decades ago, currently have a Nikon P7100, Larry's giving me advice on
kit to rent for a mid-May Alaska cruise, which will of course be
Pentax).

So I checked the archives and don't see any recent threads about SD
cards, and I'm wondering what size and kinds of cards people are using,
particularly people with K-5/K-30.


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RE: Lens Profile Creator for Lightroom; Lr tips

2013-01-30 Thread Bob W
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker
 
 On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv
 wrote:
 
 Enough is said on the topic, and I don't want to waist more time
 arguing about things we can not change.
 
  Plus this topic doesn't have the legs.
 
 Un-hip to say more.
 

I think you're being a bit spineless, not shouldering more responsibility
for this

B


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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Zos Xavius
Better to lose 8gb worth of pictures than 32just sayinoften when I need 
a card only radio shack is close and I need one that day so rather than pay 
their insane prices I just buy a reasonable 8gb. 

Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

Camera gear investment: a few thousand bucks
Once in a lifetime cruise: many thousands of bucks

 I use class 10 8gb cards.  They are dirt cheap. [...] If one fails I
lost 10 bux and some pictures.

Priceless!


On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com
wrote:
 I use class 10 8gb cards.  They are dirt cheap. On a k-5 I get like 
230 shots or so. When one runs full  I just pop  another  in. If one
fails  I lost 10 bux and some pictures. That's almost the equivalent of
10  rolls of film so that should be  enough for a lot of people.

 Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:

Howdy,

Larry Colen made me join this list (I used to be a Pentax SLR
person
decades ago, currently have a Nikon P7100, Larry's giving me advice
on
kit to rent for a mid-May Alaska cruise, which will of course be
Pentax).

So I checked the archives and don't see any recent threads about SD
cards, and I'm wondering what size and kinds of cards people are
using,
particularly people with K-5/K-30.


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RE: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread J.C. O'Connell
SanDisk class 4 8GB sdhc card, holds more than enough shots from my istDS
and seems fast enough for the camera.

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Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:17 PM
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Better to lose 8gb worth of pictures than 32just sayinoften when I
need a card only radio shack is close and I need one that day so rather than
pay their insane prices I just buy a reasonable 8gb. 

Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

Camera gear investment: a few thousand bucks
Once in a lifetime cruise: many thousands of bucks

 I use class 10 8gb cards.  They are dirt cheap. [...] If one fails I
lost 10 bux and some pictures.

Priceless!


On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com
wrote:
 I use class 10 8gb cards.  They are dirt cheap. On a k-5 I get like 
230 shots or so. When one runs full  I just pop  another  in. If one
fails  I lost 10 bux and some pictures. That's almost the equivalent of
10  rolls of film so that should be  enough for a lot of people.

 Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:

Howdy,

Larry Colen made me join this list (I used to be a Pentax SLR
person
decades ago, currently have a Nikon P7100, Larry's giving me advice
on
kit to rent for a mid-May Alaska cruise, which will of course be
Pentax).

So I checked the archives and don't see any recent threads about SD
cards, and I'm wondering what size and kinds of cards people are
using,
particularly people with K-5/K-30.


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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013, Rick Womer wrote:

 It's terrible that Larry has forced you into this. We'll try to be
 merciful (maybe!).

What is this mercy of which you speak?

 Recently I bought an Extreme Pro 90MB/s card, and compared write and
 read speeds with a 45MB/s card in the K-5.  There was no difference,
 except that the faster card cost twice as much.

That's exactly what I wanted to know.  Thanks!  (And also to everyone
participating in this thread.)  I'm already using a 16GB Extreme in my
P7100, good to have confirmation that the slow writes are the camera and
not the card (which is what I expected per various reviews).
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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread lrc
I think that tbe last time I bought sandisk extreme the best value were the 
32GB cards. They have the advantage of not needing to swap them out often.
Copy your raw files to external drives each day and keep a spare copy of the 
files on the cards until you get home.

Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:

Howdy,

Larry Colen made me join this list (I used to be a Pentax SLR person
decades ago, currently have a Nikon P7100, Larry's giving me advice on
kit to rent for a mid-May Alaska cruise, which will of course be
Pentax).

So I checked the archives and don't see any recent threads about SD
cards, and I'm wondering what size and kinds of cards people are using,
particularly people with K-5/K-30.

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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread lrc
However faster card s offload to the computer faster. Make sure you get a fast 
card reader though.

Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013, Rick Womer wrote:

 It's terrible that Larry has forced you into this. We'll try to be
 merciful (maybe!).

What is this mercy of which you speak?

 Recently I bought an Extreme Pro 90MB/s card, and compared write and
 read speeds with a 45MB/s card in the K-5.  There was no difference,
 except that the faster card cost twice as much.

That's exactly what I wanted to know.  Thanks!  (And also to everyone
participating in this thread.)  I'm already using a 16GB Extreme in my
P7100, good to have confirmation that the slow writes are the camera
and
not the card (which is what I expected per various reviews).

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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jan 30, 2013, at 13:05 , Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Welcome aboard, Aahz!
 
 SanDisk Extreme 16GB is my choice. You can't get any safer and
 reliable than that.
 

I'm with Bruce on this.

Takes a lot to fill 16GB.  I've only ever done it at very long concerts.

Brand-name makes a difference.

I had a Centon 16GB Class 10 card which was in every way slower than my 
Sandisk Ultra-II 4-gig Class 4

Stick with the SanDisk Extremes 16GB and you'll be happy.

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Re: Lens Profile Creator for Lightroom; Lr tips

2013-01-30 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote:

 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker
 
 Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 
 Enough is said on the topic, and I don't want to waist more time
 arguing about things we can not change.
 
  Plus this topic doesn't have the legs.
 
 Un-hip to say more.
 

I think you're being a bit spineless, not shouldering more responsibility
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Re: YIKES!

2013-01-30 Thread Stan Halpin
That purple is snazzy! I recently bought the previous generation (WG-2) red 
one; depending on how it works out for me on my upcoming cruise, I may switch 
up to the purple.

stan

On Jan 30, 2013, at 1:17 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 I received an email from Pentax this morning, offering to sell me a
 purple camera, or a pink and green camera:
 
 http://jmtrk.thinkbigsolutions.com/w.aspx?j=280218503m=F0EC00E1F2FA48BC8BB4F0C2D6EE4322
 
 Dan Matyola
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GESO: Another Venice series

2013-01-30 Thread DagT
Here´s some of my pictures from the trip:
http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/Venice%202013/Venice%202013.html

I even added proof that Jostein and I (as well as Linn and Amund) met Dario :-)

DagT

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Moonrise

2013-01-30 Thread Tim Bray
Strictly speaking a video not a photo but, um, wow:
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap130130.html

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RE: Travel

2013-01-30 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bob W


1. The most wonderful thing I discovered in all of my travels is the
joy of coming home to a bathroom that has the right kind of toilet
paper.



Luxury to have TP at all in some places. In the Ras Hotel in Addis Ababa
when I was there you had to ask the toilet paper lady, sitting outside, to
let you have some before you went in. You get 3 sheets, and have to spend a
lot of time persuading her that this is not going to be adequate. Especially
after some types of Ethiopian food. There are young lads in the streets who
sell the stuff, one sheet at a time.



When I used to travel to those kinds of places, I always carried my own 
personal supply in my ruck-sack. Come to think of it, I still carry an 
emergency supply in my automobile, and it's easy enough to look  see if 
the amenities are adequate to my needs before committing myself.



For those who are unfamiliar with driving in the U.S., we drive on the
right side of the road, so traffic circles naturally flow to the right
(counter-clockwise).



Here's an interesting challenge then:
http://www.itv.com/news/west/2012-10-09/40-years-of-swindons-magic-roundabo
ut/

It helps if you have a PhD in celestial mechanics, and a sound understanding
of the 3-body problem.

B


Hmmm?

No problem. I'd just mount a large flag on my front bumper so everyone 
will know I'm a crazy American driver and get out of my way.


Cue Benny Hill music!

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Re: Lens Profile Creator for Lightroom; Lr tips

2013-01-30 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com:


Bob W wrote:


From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker

Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:

Enough is said on the topic, and I don't want to waist more time
arguing about things we can not change.

 Plus this topic doesn't have the legs.

Un-hip to say more.



I think you're being a bit spineless, not shouldering more responsibility
for this


I for one respect his decision to toe the line on this issue.



Me too. He certainly knee-ded to do that.


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Re: Lens Profile Creator for Lightroom; Lr tips

2013-01-30 Thread kwaller


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- Original Message - 
From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com

Subject: Re: Lens Profile Creator for Lightroom; Lr tips



Bob W wrote:


From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker

Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:

Enough is said on the topic, and I don't want to waist more time
arguing about things we can not change.

 Plus this topic doesn't have the legs.

Un-hip to say more.



I think you're being a bit spineless, not shouldering more responsibility
for this


I for one respect his decision to toe the line on this issue.


Kneed I say anymore.

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Re: Pentax Photo Gallery Question

2013-01-30 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org:


Brian,

In Firefox, you can click on Tools-Page Info, then, in the
new window, choose Media tab.
You can click on the jpegs in the list, while looking at the image in
the Media Preview box at the bottom.
Then, you can either use Save as (if you need to save your image),
or right-click on the URL in the list and choose Copy.

E.g. Bong's image that he used as an example has this URL:
http://c759846.r46.cf2.rackcdn.com/gallery/2013/01/20239377_1358055741_K53277BWppg.jpg


HTH,





Indeed it did.  Works like a charm.  Thanks, Igor.


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On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Brian Walters
apathyman at lyons-ryan.org wrote:

A quick question for PPG users.

Is there any way to link directly to an image in the gallery or
download an
image from the gallery?  It was possible in the old PPG but I can't
find a
way with the new PPG.




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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Mark Roberts
John Francis wrote:

Does anyone have a link to the spectacular shot of an Alaskan glacier that
was posted here some time ago?  I'd guess it was a Denali shot by Ken Waller,
but my Google-fu is weak today.  I think the shot was taken with the 600/f4.

I think you're referring to the one he sent in for the PDML Photo
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Re: Lens Profile Creator for Lightroom; Lr tips

2013-01-30 Thread Mark Roberts
kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com

 Bob W wrote:
 
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker
 
 Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 
 Enough is said on the topic, and I don't want to waist more time
 arguing about things we can not change.
 
  Plus this topic doesn't have the legs.
 
 Un-hip to say more.

I think you're being a bit spineless, not shouldering more responsibility
for this
 
 I for one respect his decision to toe the line on this issue.
 
Kneed I say anymore.

Right. Don't stick your neck out.
 
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Re: Did Pentax announce anything interesting while I was gone?

2013-01-30 Thread John Sessoms

From: Darren Addy

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:01 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

Hmmm?



Hold on to your hat because CP+ is only days away.

The Pentax booth is right next to the Nikon booth.
Largest booths belong to Nikon  Canon
2nd largest booths belong to Olympus  Sony
3rd largest booths belong to Pentax  FujiFilm
http://www.pentaxforums.com/news/cp-plus-2013-pentax.html#more


Just before I headed out I noticed the Tiger Direct store in Raleigh has 
the blue K-30 in stock. It was the first time I'd actually seen a Pentax 
camera on display in a long time.


While I was out at the Grand Canyon, I did meet other Pentax shooter, an 
old guy from Japan shooting with a Stormtrooper K-x, and a couple of 
young kids (also from Japan) sharing a K-10D.



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Re: Lens Profile Creator for Lightroom; Lr tips

2013-01-30 Thread Zos Xavius
Just hold your head high.

Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:

kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com

 Bob W wrote:
 
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce
Walker
 
 Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 
 Enough is said on the topic, and I don't want to waist more time
 arguing about things we can not change.
 
  Plus this topic doesn't have the legs.
 
 Un-hip to say more.

I think you're being a bit spineless, not shouldering more
responsibility
for this
 
 I for one respect his decision to toe the line on this issue.
 
Kneed I say anymore.

Right. Don't stick your neck out.
 


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RE: GESO - Venice

2013-01-30 Thread John Sessoms

From: Jostein ?ksne


http://www.alunfoto.no/temp/Venezia/

As usual, very few pictures of people, but you'll know it was a PDML event
by the last image.

Shot with Q and 645D.

Warm thanks to Dario who joined us for a good round of... well you've seen
his pictures... :-) We had a great time!

Jostein


Very nice. I especially like the fishmonger (fiskehandler).

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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com:


John Francis wrote:


Does anyone have a link to the spectacular shot of an Alaskan glacier that
was posted here some time ago?  I'd guess it was a Denali shot by  
Ken Waller,

but my Google-fu is weak today.  I think the shot was taken with the 600/f4.


I think you're referring to the one he sent in for the PDML Photo
Annual 2011. There's a smallish version on line at
http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2011/gallery/pdml017.html




...or possibly this one in the PUG from August 2011:

http://pug.komkon.org/11aug/slides/KW-NorthFace-B+W.html


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Re: Did Pentax announce anything interesting while I was, gone?

2013-01-30 Thread John Sessoms
Figured out who Evangelion must be from a Google search, but Krey didn't 
return any meaningful (to me) results. I'm afraid the cultural reference 
is wasted on me.


From: P. J. Alling

I could just Krey, I've been waiting all year for this moment!

On 1/29/2013 3:03 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote:

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 3:01 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Hmmm?

Oh, you bet! Exactly what you were hoping for, I'm sure!

http://photorumors.com/2013/01/28/pentax-q10-evangelion-special-edition-camera/



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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread kwaller

Does anyone have a link to the spectacular shot of an Alaskan glacier that
was posted here some time ago?  I'd guess it was a Denali shot by Ken 
Waller,


Ask and you shall receive John.

Is this the image you were referring to? 
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16842892


It wasn't taken in Denali, but from a tour boat in Portage Lake. It was hand 
held with a 300mm f4.4 FA and a 1.4 teleconvertor, probably on a PZ1P or an 
MZ-S.


Its been published in Outdoor Photographer and won first place in Epson's 
'Around the World' photo contest,  used in their advertising for which 
Epson gave me a wide format printer.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: John Francis jo...@panix.com

Subject: Re: SD Card Survey



On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 02:45:37PM -0500, Matthew Hunt wrote:

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 It's terrible that Larry has forced you into this.  We'll try to be 
 merciful (maybe!).


I assume that anyone who associates with Larry can deal with the rest of 
us.


We'll find out - Aahz will be trying the heft of my K-5  60-250 this 
weekend.
So if we don't hear from him after that perhaps immunity to Larry doesn't 
mean

that everybody else in the PDML is acceptable.

Does anyone have a link to the spectacular shot of an Alaskan glacier that
was posted here some time ago?  I'd guess it was a Denali shot by Ken 
Waller,
but my Google-fu is weak today.  I think the shot was taken with the 
600/f4.


P.S. Aahz - don't believe anything Frank or Cotty or various Bobs say ...



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Re: Moonrise

2013-01-30 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 01:32:07PM -0800, Tim Bray wrote:
 Strictly speaking a video not a photo but, um, wow:
 http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap130130.html

Even though I spent a year in NZ, it still looks wrong to see the moon
looking like that; the crater with radial lines should be near the bottom!


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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread kwaller

Welcome aboard Aahz

By now you've gotten the combined wisdom of the list on SD cards, I can only 
add that I only use San Disk Extreme cards but I mainly shoot 2.0 GB size - 
that way if I lose a card I won't be loosing hundreds of images  a 2.0 GB 
card is nicely filled during a day of shooting for me.



BTW last August I took a 9 day 'cruise' on the Inside Passage on a 62 
passenger, 150' 'Expedition Boat' definitely not your typical cruise ship. I 
carried 3 lenses - a 300, 70-210  28-80 and a 1.4 teleconvertor -had no 
need for any other lenses.


We went late August and had phenomenal weather - mostly sunny with temps in 
the low 50's to high 60's during the day.


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com

Subject: SD Card Survey



Howdy,

Larry Colen made me join this list (I used to be a Pentax SLR person
decades ago, currently have a Nikon P7100, Larry's giving me advice on
kit to rent for a mid-May Alaska cruise, which will of course be Pentax).

So I checked the archives and don't see any recent threads about SD
cards, and I'm wondering what size and kinds of cards people are using,
particularly people with K-5/K-30.
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Re: Moonrise

2013-01-30 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 30/1/13, Tim Bray, discombobulated, unleashed:

Strictly speaking a video not a photo but, um, wow:
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap130130.html

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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread steve harley

on 2013-01-30 11:57 Aahz Maruch wrote

 I'm wondering what size and kinds of cards people are using,
particularly people with K-5/K-30.


i don't buy the Sandisk mythology; i've been using a no-name Team 32GB Class 
10 card for the last 6 months, only one month of which i've had a K-5; 
absolutely no problems; speed is plenty for my uses


and as for risk of losing lots of images, there's no rule you have to fill 
the card; i've rarely even filled 8GB cards (but when i did, it was 
inconvenient); i got a large card for possible video use and because i 
occasionally use SD cards for old-fashioned sneakernet


i also use an ADATA class 10 8GB card as a backup, and have used several other 
off brands of class 6  class 10 cards over the years; none have died and 
most are still in use in other cameras; only two or three times did i encounter 
a single corrupt image in tens of thousands of shots on my K200d




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RE: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread John Sessoms

From: Aahz Maruch

Howdy,

Larry Colen made me join this list (I used to be a Pentax SLR person
decades ago, currently have a Nikon P7100, Larry's giving me advice on
kit to rent for a mid-May Alaska cruise, which will of course be Pentax).

So I checked the archives and don't see any recent threads about SD
cards, and I'm wondering what size and kinds of cards people are using,
particularly people with K-5/K-30.
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I've been using 4GB cards with the K-10D and 8GB cards with the K-20D. 
I'd probably go with at least 16GB cards for a K-5.


Tiger Direct has a retail store here, and I get almost all of my memory 
cards from them. Prices on 16GB Class10 SDHC cards today are about what 
I paid for 4GB  8GB Class 4 cards ($12.99), and 32GB Class10 SDHC cards 
were $22.99.


I tend to fill the cards up  swap them out for the one in the battery 
grip before downloading them to my computer. Because of that, I prefer 
to have more small capacity cards on hand rather than fewer large 
capacity cards.


That way, I will lose fewer images that way if I do manage to screw up a 
card.


OTOH, I found an SD card in the dryer a while back that I had apparently 
put into my shirt pocket after downloading and it was still readable 
after having gone through a wash  dry cycle (no bleach).


So far, I've only ever had one card failure (the first 4GB CF card I 
bought for my *ist-D) that did not involve destruction of the plastic case


Will 32GB Class10 SDHC cards work with the K-20D?

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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread steve harley

on 2013-01-30 16:42 John Sessoms wrote

Will 32GB Class10 SDHC cards work with the K-20D?


i have such a card that works fine with my K200d, which came out the same year 
as K20d




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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread John Sessoms

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013, Rick Womer wrote:


It's terrible that Larry has forced you into this. We'll try to be
merciful (maybe!).


What is this mercy of which you speak?



You don't get thrown into a pun thread on your very first post.

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Re: Lens Profile Creator for Lightroom; Lr tips

2013-01-30 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Bob W wrote:

 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker

 Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 
 Enough is said on the topic, and I don't want to waist more time
 arguing about things we can not change.
 
  Plus this topic doesn't have the legs.

 Un-hip to say more.


I think you're being a bit spineless, not shouldering more responsibility
for this

 I for one respect his decision to toe the line on this issue.


Can anyone join this shin dig?

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Re: Lens Profile Creator for Lightroom; Lr tips

2013-01-30 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Mark Roberts
 postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Bob W wrote:

 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker

 Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 
 Enough is said on the topic, and I don't want to waist more time
 arguing about things we can not change.
 
  Plus this topic doesn't have the legs.

 Un-hip to say more.


I think you're being a bit spineless, not shouldering more responsibility
for this

 I for one respect his decision to toe the line on this issue.


 Can anyone join this shin dig?

Yes, but it's getting to be a conthiderable thighs.

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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Mark C
I use Sandisk Extreme and Sandisk Extreme Pro cards. I don't see much 
difference in performance with the K-5 or the Q so the Extreme would 
probably be the best option. I'm starting to switch from 8 gb cards to 
16 gb, though I rarely fill a 16gb card in a single session.


Mark


On 1/30/2013 1:57 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:

Howdy,

Larry Colen made me join this list (I used to be a Pentax SLR person
decades ago, currently have a Nikon P7100, Larry's giving me advice on
kit to rent for a mid-May Alaska cruise, which will of course be Pentax).

So I checked the archives and don't see any recent threads about SD
cards, and I'm wondering what size and kinds of cards people are using,
particularly people with K-5/K-30.



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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread P. J. Alling

On 1/30/2013 6:49 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013, Rick Womer wrote:


It's terrible that Larry has forced you into this. We'll try to be
merciful (maybe!).


What is this mercy of which you speak?



You don't get thrown into a pun thread on your very first post.


Too late.

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Re: Lens Profile Creator for Lightroom; Lr tips

2013-01-30 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Walker wrote:

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
 Bob W wrote:

 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker

 Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 
 Enough is said on the topic, and I don't want to waist more time
 arguing about things we can not change.
 
  Plus this topic doesn't have the legs.

 Un-hip to say more.

I think you're being a bit spineless, not shouldering more responsibility
for this

 I for one respect his decision to toe the line on this issue.

 Can anyone join this shin dig?

Yes, but it's getting to be a conthiderable thighs.

That's OK, I'm getting a lot of laughs from it because it's so
humerus.
 
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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Back when I was shooting with Pentax *ist DS and K10D, I had
standardized on 2G Sandisk Extreme cards.

Then, 2008ish onwards, I standardized on 8G Sandisk Extremes with
Panasonic L1 and G1 bodies.

Last year, I upgraded to 16 and 32 G Sandisk Extreme and HP Class 10s,
shooting with Ricoh GXR-M and Leica M9. With a 32G card in the Leica
M9, I can make about 1500 JPEG + raw, 18Mpixel exposures per card.
This means I need to carry about three-four cards to cover the
entirety of a three week photo trip to the UK, with double redundancy
(I normally find myself shooting about 1500-2000 exposures on these
trips).

The funny part of this, to me anyway, is that the other cameras I
carry much of the time these days take 12 exposures on a roll of 120
film. ;-)
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Re: Lens Profile Creator for Lightroom; Lr tips

2013-01-30 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 8:19 PM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Bruce Walker wrote:

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
 Bob W wrote:

 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker

 Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 
 Enough is said on the topic, and I don't want to waist more time
 arguing about things we can not change.
 
  Plus this topic doesn't have the legs.

 Un-hip to say more.

I think you're being a bit spineless, not shouldering more responsibility
for this

 I for one respect his decision to toe the line on this issue.

 Can anyone join this shin dig?

Yes, but it's getting to be a conthiderable thighs.

 That's OK, I'm getting a lot of laughs from it because it's so
 humerus.


Ugh.  I don't have the stomach for it, myself...

;(
-c

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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013, John Sessoms wrote:
Aahz:
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013, Rick Womer wrote:

It's terrible that Larry has forced you into this. We'll try to be
merciful (maybe!).

What is this mercy of which you speak?
 
 You don't get thrown into a pun thread on your very first post.

The shortest distance between two puns is a straight line, of course.
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Re: Lens Profile Creator for Lightroom; Lr tips

2013-01-30 Thread Stan Halpin

On Jan 30, 2013, at 8:43 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote:

 On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 8:19 PM, Mark Roberts
 postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Bruce Walker wrote:
 
 On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
 Bob W wrote:
 
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker
 
 Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 
 Enough is said on the topic, and I don't want to waist more time
 arguing about things we can not change.
 
 Plus this topic doesn't have the legs.
 
 Un-hip to say more.
 
 I think you're being a bit spineless, not shouldering more responsibility
 for this
 
 I for one respect his decision to toe the line on this issue.
 
 Can anyone join this shin dig?
 
 Yes, but it's getting to be a conthiderable thighs.
 
 That's OK, I'm getting a lot of laughs from it because it's so
 humerus.
 
 
 Ugh.  I don't have the stomach for it, myself...
 
And, sooner or later, someone will need to foot the bill.

stan


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Re: Did Pentax announce anything interesting while I was, gone?

2013-01-30 Thread P. J. Alling

It's supposedly Yiddish...

On 1/30/2013 5:42 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
Figured out who Evangelion must be from a Google search, but Krey 
didn't return any meaningful (to me) results. I'm afraid the cultural 
reference is wasted on me.


From: P. J. Alling

I could just Krey, I've been waiting all year for this moment!

On 1/29/2013 3:03 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote:
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 3:01 PM, John Sessoms 
jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:



Hmmm?

Oh, you bet! Exactly what you were hoping for, I'm sure!

http://photorumors.com/2013/01/28/pentax-q10-evangelion-special-edition-camera/ 








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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013, l...@red4est.com wrote:

 Copy your raw files to external drives each day and keep a spare copy
 of the files on the cards until you get home.

I'm expecting to rent a GoPro to sit on the ship rail for timelapse
photography (plus likely other random usage for photos and video).  Even
a 64GB card won't hold an entire trip's worth of pictures for that, so
I'm operating on the mindset that the external drives are critical (i.e.
at least two of them).
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Re: resale value of an almost-3-year-old K7?

2013-01-30 Thread Mark C
I agree with you completely. While the K-7 is limited Iif I ever broke 
or lost my K-5 I could get by for a while with the K-7. Maybe not so for 
folks who use high ISO. I do wonder how it would do  converted to IR. 
Never thought about having the AI filter removed


Mark

On 1/29/2013 10:50 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:

My k5 recently took a nasty fall. If it broke i know i could still take quality 
pictures, but with more restrictions. Lets face it. The k7 is a very competent 
camera with decent iq at even 1600 iso. Compare to film at the same speed and 
it destroys it. It represented to me a shift where digital started to beat film 
in nearly every aspect. It was my first dslr and i fell completely in love. I 
dont know if i could ever part with it. Ive been certainly thinking about 
converting it to ir. It would be interesting to see what resolution looks like 
with no aa filter too.





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PESO - Crane

2013-01-30 Thread Rick Womer
In Center City Philly; just for the shapes and colors:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16817614size=lg

(K-5, DA 16-45)

Comments always appreciated.

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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Paul Stenquist
Same here: 16 G Sandusk extreme and extreme pro. I own some transcend cards as 
well but haven't used them for quite some time.

Paul via phone

On Jan 30, 2013, at 7:56 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:

 I use Sandisk Extreme and Sandisk Extreme Pro cards. I don't see much 
 difference in performance with the K-5 or the Q so the Extreme would probably 
 be the best option. I'm starting to switch from 8 gb cards to 16 gb, though I 
 rarely fill a 16gb card in a single session.
 
 Mark
 
 
 On 1/30/2013 1:57 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:
 Howdy,
 
 Larry Colen made me join this list (I used to be a Pentax SLR person
 decades ago, currently have a Nikon P7100, Larry's giving me advice on
 kit to rent for a mid-May Alaska cruise, which will of course be Pentax).
 
 So I checked the archives and don't see any recent threads about SD
 cards, and I'm wondering what size and kinds of cards people are using,
 particularly people with K-5/K-30.
 
 
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Re: I hate computers.

2013-01-30 Thread Bob Sullivan
Wow, 67,251 emails.  I'll never change programs.
To be you with a new computer sucks...
(I have my own problems with contractors, floors, and carpets.)
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 8:59 PM, William Robb
anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
 But I really have come to despise email programs.
 New computer, very fast.
 Trying (again!!) to find a program I like. Reverted to Thunderbird,
 which immediately downloaded 67,251 email from the PDML, and locked
 up.

 Anyway, if anything important happened over the past few days, I
 won't be reading about it.

 Gads.

 William Robb

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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Bob Sullivan
My wife presented me with a 16gb card that she had washed and
dried...and it's not the first time!
Each card worked fine after the wash and dry cycle.
They are tougher than they look.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 5:42 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From: Aahz Maruch

 Howdy,

 Larry Colen made me join this list (I used to be a Pentax SLR person
 decades ago, currently have a Nikon P7100, Larry's giving me advice on
 kit to rent for a mid-May Alaska cruise, which will of course be Pentax).

 So I checked the archives and don't see any recent threads about SD
 cards, and I'm wondering what size and kinds of cards people are using,
 particularly people with K-5/K-30.

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 I've been using 4GB cards with the K-10D and 8GB cards with the K-20D. I'd
 probably go with at least 16GB cards for a K-5.

 Tiger Direct has a retail store here, and I get almost all of my memory
 cards from them. Prices on 16GB Class10 SDHC cards today are about what I
 paid for 4GB  8GB Class 4 cards ($12.99), and 32GB Class10 SDHC cards were
 $22.99.

 I tend to fill the cards up  swap them out for the one in the battery grip
 before downloading them to my computer. Because of that, I prefer to have
 more small capacity cards on hand rather than fewer large capacity cards.

 That way, I will lose fewer images that way if I do manage to screw up a
 card.

 OTOH, I found an SD card in the dryer a while back that I had apparently put
 into my shirt pocket after downloading and it was still readable after
 having gone through a wash  dry cycle (no bleach).

 So far, I've only ever had one card failure (the first 4GB CF card I bought
 for my *ist-D) that did not involve destruction of the plastic case

 Will 32GB Class10 SDHC cards work with the K-20D?


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K-01 Has Arrived!

2013-01-30 Thread Mark C
Yippie! The box from BH was on my porch when I got home today - Inside 
was a Panda-Bear white K-01, DA-XS 40mm f 2.8, extra battery and SD 
card. I think this camera will be excellent for snow crsytal shots - I 
just put in my snow crystal setup and did some test shows. It is 
sleeting now and too warm for snow, but as I hoped the focus peaking 
made it very easy to focus despite the extreme macro and shallow DOF. As 
with the Q I could not get the flash to stay in manual mode.  
Fortunately in the last few days I cobbled together a PC cord setup that 
by passes the TTL functions altogether, so I can use the flash in manual 
no problem.


Pentax has done a good job of sticking to a standard control layout, and 
even though the K-01 is a little different with only one control wheel, 
everything falls into to place very intuitively. I did have to look up 
how to activate focus peaking. I think that the focus peaking and 
ability to zoom into the frame for focusing - far more than the Pentax Q 
- will make this a great tool for snow crystals and other extreme macro 
photography.


The 40mm lens is small. Haven't tested it out yet. I did put in my Mz-S 
and shot out a short roll of Tri-X - the vignetting looked fabulous 
through the finder. Discovered that the built in flash on my Mz-S is 
dead. Crap - these film cameras keep fading away


For my specific intended purpose I thing that the K-01 will be great. It 
was 60F when I left for work this morning, 35F when I drove home, and 
high tomorrow is predicted to be 18F. (That would be 15, 2, and -8 C) 
Lots of snow coming so I hope to give this setup a good workout.


As far as general purpose shooting goes... I have to say I look at the 
K-01 and think WTF? I was skeptical about the Q but the moment I 
picked it up it up I thought Wow! The K-01... Well


Mark

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Re: Lens Profile Creator for Lightroom; Lr tips

2013-01-30 Thread kwaller


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info

Subject: Re: Lens Profile Creator for Lightroom; Lr tips




On Jan 30, 2013, at 8:43 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote:


On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 8:19 PM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:

Bruce Walker wrote:

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com 
wrote:

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Bob W wrote:


From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker

Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:



Enough is said on the topic, and I don't want to waist more time
arguing about things we can not change.


Plus this topic doesn't have the legs.


Un-hip to say more.

I think you're being a bit spineless, not shouldering more 
responsibility

for this


I for one respect his decision to toe the line on this issue.


Can anyone join this shin dig?


Yes, but it's getting to be a conthiderable thighs.


That's OK, I'm getting a lot of laughs from it because it's so
humerus.



Ugh.  I don't have the stomach for it, myself...


And, sooner or later, someone will need to foot the bill.

Heel probably take a lot of ribbing for that. 



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Re: YIKES!

2013-01-30 Thread Ann Sanfedele

nice to see they have their priorities straight

ann

On 1/30/2013 13:17, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I received an email from Pentax this morning, offering to sell me a
purple camera, or a pink and green camera:

http://jmtrk.thinkbigsolutions.com/w.aspx?j=280218503m=F0EC00E1F2FA48BC8BB4F0C2D6EE4322

Dan Matyola
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Re: K-01 Has Arrived!

2013-01-30 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jan 30, 2013, at 21:45 , Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
 
 For my specific intended purpose I thing that the K-01 will be great. It was 
 60F when I left for work this morning, 35F when I drove home, and high 
 tomorrow is predicted to be 18F. (That would be 15, 2, and -8 C) Lots of snow 
 coming so I hope to give this setup a good workout.
 

The K-01 almost tempted me at its most-extreme sale point. Just the 40mm alone!

As for temps.. The high here tomorrow will be -1F (-18C).Tomorrow night 
will be down to -14F (-25.5C).  So it's time to find the warm gloves.  And 
maybe a hat!

 -Charles

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Re: resale value of an almost-3-year-old K7?

2013-01-30 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jan 30, 2013, at 20:27 , Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:

 I agree with you completely. While the K-7 is limited Iif I ever broke or 
 lost my K-5 I could get by for a while with the K-7. Maybe not so for folks 
 who use high ISO. I do wonder how it would do  converted to IR. Never thought 
 about having the AI filter removed
 

(shudder)

I just pictured having to go back to the K10D (which my son now uses).

No!

My daughter has the K200D which I got as a replacement (lemon-law, 3 strikes 
you're out) for a defective-after-1.5-years ist-DS.  I've never used it.  But I 
don't want to.

The only non-Pentax user in our family is my wife.  Maybe SHE can learn to 
use/love the K7?

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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Larry Colen
I started out using Patriot SD cards, which were very cheap at Fry's.  They 
pretty much all worked fine electrically, even after they started falling apart 
physically.

I had decent luck with Transcend 8GB cards, but when it got down to $40 for a 
32GB Sandisk Extreme,  I just started going with them.


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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I rarely fill up even a 2G card in a single shoot. (I tend to shoot
with digital much the way I shoot with medium format film ...)

But, it's nice to have lots of space for the rare occasions when I
will shoot a LOT in a short period of time. At the present prices, a
16 or 32 G card is just too cheap to pass by.

G

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello Bruce and PDMLer Friends, That is the question: why buy 16 GB
 Cards when you can't fill it up in a shoot??
 I use mostly 8 GB + 4 GB extreme Sandisk Cards - agree they are the
 best, reliable and safer too as Bruce puts it.
 While in Cologne, Germany, I visited Media Mart, the biggest Camera 
 Electronic super market in Europe, and bought some 8 GB HAMA 10x cards
 on sale. They are pretty good.
 As an amateur photographer it takes me literally days to fill up an 8
 GB card. And if I ever loose one I have lost only 8 GB and not 16 GB.
 Regards.
 Bipin.

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Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Larry Colen

On Jan 30, 2013, at 10:59 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote:

 Hello Bruce and PDMLer Friends, That is the question: why buy 16 GB
 Cards when you can't fill it up in a shoot??

You may not fill it up in a shoot, but you could fill it up in a vacation.


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Re: GESO - Venice

2013-01-30 Thread Jostein Øksne
Thanks Bob. It had rained earlier in the evening on that night, so 
everything was still wet. It really brought the colours out.

Jostein
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To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
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Subject: RE: GESO - Venice


Superb. I particularly like 'Under Academia-Broa', and the long shot of 
the

Grand Canal from on top of the bridge. Canaletto finds the slow speeds on
the dial.

B


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Sent: 29 January 2013 21:32
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Subject: GESO - Venice

http://www.alunfoto.no/temp/Venezia/

As usual, very few pictures of people, but you'll know it was a PDML
event by the last image.

Shot with Q and 645D.

Warm thanks to Dario who joined us for a good round of... well you've
seen his pictures... :-) We had a great time!

Jostein


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Re: GESO - Venice

2013-01-30 Thread Jostein Øksne

Thanks Bruce,
The Q is definately a nice little camera. Its dynamic range falls a little 
short of the 645D, but hey. :-)
Someone said here a while ago that the raw files are comparable with those 
of K20-D. I think it's almost but not quite; still close enough to demand 
respect.


But next time I go to a city like Venice to photograph, I think I'll rather 
bring a K-mount outfit. The 645D and Q combination surely gives you the best 
of image quality and portability in separate packages, but it's inconvenient 
to trade one off against the other. A K-mount outfit is simply a better 
over-all compromise.


Jostein

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From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com

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Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: GESO - Venice



An outstanding gallery, Jostein. A testament to the Q that it's not
obvious which shots were done with which camera.

My fave is Private Parking, but it's a close race with all the others.

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no wrote:

http://www.alunfoto.no/temp/Venezia/

As usual, very few pictures of people, but you'll know it was a PDML 
event

by the last image.

Shot with Q and 645D.

Warm thanks to Dario who joined us for a good round of... well you've 
seen

his pictures... :-) We had a great time!

Jostein

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Re: GESO - Venice

2013-01-30 Thread Jostein Øksne

Thanks Dario! :-)
Jostein
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Excellent! A wonderful gallery of pics, of which you can hardly pick one 
as the best of the bunch because they all deserve that.


Dario

-Messaggio originale- 
From: Jostein Øksne

Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 10:32 PM
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Subject: GESO - Venice

http://www.alunfoto.no/temp/Venezia/

As usual, very few pictures of people, but you'll know it was a PDML event
by the last image.

Shot with Q and 645D.

Warm thanks to Dario who joined us for a good round of... well you've seen
his pictures... :-) We had a great time!

Jostein


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Re: GESO - Venice

2013-01-30 Thread Jostein Øksne

Thanks Derby,
You think about the open shops at the Rialto bridge?
I'm not entirely sure if it is a pattern, but my impression was that shops 
lining the common tourist pathways tended to stay open for longer.

Jostein
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Beautiful street work, even if the streets are water. Vendors work late in 
Venice



On 30/01/2013 8:32 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote:

http://www.alunfoto.no/temp/Venezia/

As usual, very few pictures of people, but you'll know it was a PDML 
event by the last image.


Shot with Q and 645D.

Warm thanks to Dario who joined us for a good round of... well you've 
seen his pictures... :-) We had a great time!


Jostein




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