Re: MZ-60QD
mz-60qd doesnt sound like digital. qd stands for quartz databack. On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 11:04:19PM -0400, gfen wrote: On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, Brett Mckay wrote: Does anyone know any info about this new Pentax that is about to released? I take it to be Pentax's first digital SLR, based around the MZ body. I was under the impression it was the replacement for the ZX-30. -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 200/2.5K deal at Adorama
just a personal experience note: Adorama's ratings are not as conservative as KEH's. Ofcourse there is always a return for refund option :) On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 09:56:29PM -0400, Paul F. Stregevsky wrote: $365 in EX--a very nice deal. Also a 30/2.8K for $285--not the best price, but if you want it... Paul Franklin Stregevsky - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Weird item on eBay
this one looks like a t-mount adapter to me. On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 06:35:59PM -0600, William Robb wrote: Sorry for the eBay post, but this one is a bit strange. It appears to be a PK body to M42 lens adaptor that will cause the lens to lose infinity focus. Any thoughts? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1354965920 William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A*85/1.4 - one for $1,100+, one for $438
On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 01:29:55PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1351000890 Now somebody tell me why this happens. We just talked about a A*85/1.4 that went for over $1,100. This one sold the same day for $438 ! All because the seller restricted his market to Germany. Tell me why he did this? I thought the Germans were smarter than this. I see many Pentax bargains on German Ebay. I wish that I had an easy way to pay from the USA. Any suggestions? winner of this one is from south korea. Must have talked to seller about shipping to korea. Many folks just dont think about it so if you contact them they will do it. 2nd way is to find a friend/contact in germany :) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Ricoh XR-X 2000 (Was: Exposure Lock on ME Super?)
a good place for info on ricoh 35mm slrs is: http://www.butkus.org/chinon/ forum is: http://www.ricoh-cameras.co.uk/forum/ check mike butkus's site. If 2 ricoh camera's look similar they very likely have same way of operating. So if you cant find a manual, simply look for a similar looking model there and see if features listed for it are supported by your camera :) Dont go by their model numbering tho. XR-M is much better than XR-10M :) cheers, nitin On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 10:29:11AM -0700, James Adams wrote: Good morning Nitin, I have been trying to find a manual for the Ricoh XR-X 2000 I picked yesterday, but can't find a reference to it in English. The only thing I found was that an XR-M and XR-X are the same, but nothing on the XR-X 2000. The XR-X 2000 has the built-in motor drive, multi-exposure, 1/2000 Sec. Shutter and Auto-bracketing Exposure probably more(without a manual I don't have a clue). You are right, they do have a nice bright focus screen, and I also like the built-in winder. Bummer, is no shutter release cable port. I'm going down to my local camera store to browse through their manuals box, who knows they might have one. The XR-X 3000 sounds even better! James - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Exposure Lock on ME Super?
Or get the undervalued ricoh bodies and get both :) On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 11:25:19AM -0700, Ron Bhanukitsiri wrote: Hi Shel, The Pentax MX is totally manual, no aperture priority. The exposure is always locked, but it may not be what you want ;-). I've always wondered which is the most often used by photographer and if he/she can pick only one what would it be: AE lock or exposure compensation. Well, at least the AF bodies seem to have both ;-). Ron B[ee] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 7:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Exposure Lock on ME Super? Thanks, Chris ... Sounds like a good, quick workaround g. So, if I wanted to use a manual focus camera, which Pentax has aperture priority and exposure lock ... besides the MX smile. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Exposure Lock on ME Super?
The 2 that I have experience with are xr-p and xr-m. Paul has used xr-p
too and has given it favourable review here. He found it to have a less
vibration compared to his Super A (wrong model?). Our comparitive points
about the 2 are:
+ Bright viewfinder and 0.88x mag for xr-p (.80 for M)
. Built in winder on xr-m (+ for me, - for paul. he prefers to attach winder if
needed).
- ISO overide in xr-m only by taping over the DX contacts or setting
exp. comp
+ exposure comp is in 1/3rd steps.
. xr-p has aperture relay port. xr-m doesnt.
+ DOF in xr-m. not available in xr-p.
+ spot-metering in xr-m. not in xr-p. xr-m also has backlight compensation but thats
+usually better done yourself.
. xr-m takes 4 AA batteries. Which is good because I sort of carry a
spare set in the flash and they last longer. I drained the battery on my
xr-10 too quickly becuase i took several long exposure shots. On the -ve
side AA battery grip on the side also makes it a little oddball to grip
for me. Its nice when holding normally but when taking vertical shots, i
have found it better to keep the battery side (which is also the shutter
release side) below or the camera is less stable in my hands due to the
top being heavier. The fact that i have found the xr-m's shutter button
a little stiff doesnt help either. xr-10 (non-prog) is great this way.
metering is activated by a longish button that falls under your right
hand fingers and shutter release is sensitive and quick.
. xr-p takes standard threaded cable release. you need a wireless or
wired plug-in (2.5mm jack?) type thingie for xr-m.
I havent had experience with the other program models (kr-30sp, 20sp,
xr-3xpf etc) but have read favorable reviews about them.
The caveat ofcourse is getting program lenses (ricoh P lenses) is not
easy. One could try to make their pentax-a lenses into AP lenses :) or
use 3rd party ones. I have been able to (tho i must say i was lucky) to
get the 50/1.4, 28/2.8, 28-100/4, 70-210/3.9,70-300/4.5-5.6 P lenses.
Vivitar 19/3.8 also works in program mode. If the trend continues, soon
I will not qualify to submit anything to PUG :)
On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 01:22:12PM -0700, James Adams wrote:
Thanks Nitin,
Before I bought the ME's and ME Super, I bought a Ricoh KR-10 and
subsequently a Winder, and I love it. What Ricoh 'Program' models would you
recommend, and why?
James
BTW
Just received two items via USPS,
1. Salyut-S for $160{Air Parcel[10 days]) Customs opened it because no
customs label was attached. I was lucky, it was assessed as $50CDN for
customs purposes, and charged $7.25 GST/PST + postal handling fee $7.00).
2. Vivitar 70-150mm f3.8 Zoom (Identical to my Hoya Pentax Screw) for
$20(USPS Air insured [Posted Thursday]).
There was a combined handling charge + GST/PST that came to $21.75 CDN. No
customs duty. That might explain how I, and most others in Canada prefer US
Postal Service, to UPS (They tried to skin me for the Prog Plus for $130 CDN
in charges today).
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Re: Which Ricoh Program body? (was: Re: Exposure Lock on ME Super?)
On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 06:13:33PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll reply in all caps, point by point: Nitin Garg wrote: Built in winder on xr-m (+ for me, - for paul. he prefers to attach winder if needed). YEP. YOU CAN THUS SEE THE WIND LEVER MOVING, FOR REASSURANCE. AND YOU CAN CHOOSE TO ADD A BATTERY-LADEN MOTOR, FOR HEFT, OR SIMPLY USE THE FEATHERWEIGHT GRIP, WITH ITS EXCELLENT AUXIILIARY SHUTTER RELEASE. that is true :) At times i do wish the xr-m weighed like the xr-p :) spot-metering in xr-m. not in xr-p. xr-m also has backlight compensation but thats usually better done yourself. THESE AND OTHER XR-M/XR-X FEATURES ARE ALSO FOUND ON THE XR-M'S REPLACEMENT, THE XRX-3P. ALSO, THESE TWO MODELS, UNLIKE THE XR-P, SHOW YOU THE SHUTTER SPEED ON A TOP-PANEL LCD. xr-x3p is a little more harder to obtain than xr-m and is not as cheap. Which is why i dont have it :) The caveat ofcourse is getting program lenses (ricoh P lenses) is not easy. TRUE, BUT ONCE YOU HAVE IT, YOU HAVE IT. THE 50/2 IS A FINE LENS AND WIDELY AVAILABLE IN P, THOUGH IT WAS NEVER MULTICOATED. THE P 50/1.4 IS SCARCER THAN A PENTAX 50/1.2; I'VE NEVER SEEN ONE FOR SALE IN THREE MONTHS OF LOOKING. You didnt look well enough :) I got mine less than 3 months ago. Pentax 50/1.2 doesnt seem scarce. KEH has 3 of them listed. CONCLUSION: ALL PROGRAM RICOHS OFFER TTL FLASH AND EASY VERTICAL SHOOTING. IF YOU LIKE THE CLASSIC CAMERA FEEL AND OPERATION OR MUST HAVE THE APERTURE WINDOW, GET THE XR-P. IF YOU PREFER MODERN AMENITIES, SKIP THE XR-M/XR-X AND GO FOR AN XR-X 3P. IT ADDS A 1/3000 SECOND SHUTTER AND A BUILT-IN FLASH WITH 28MM COVERAGE AND EXCELLENT (EASY) TTL FLASH FILL. Theres one on ebay right now heheh - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ZX-L and Pentax Metering
On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 02:43:51PM -0600, Joseph Tainter wrote: Shutterbug describes the ZX-L as a 5n replacement. Peterson's reviews it in their current issue and calls it a ZX-7 replacement. Huh? Of course, it comes only with program metering. No center-weighted or spot. This has been said before and everytime somebody corrected it to the contrary. It has both center and spot. I'd like to be able to recommend Pentax to others. But the MZ-S is the only model now in production that includes other metering modes. How can 5n has center and spot too no ? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
me-f mirror locked up.
hi, Is there a simple reason why the mirror of ME-F would be locked up, the shutter button would depress freely, and film advance lever is jammed ? Or does that imply a trip to the repair center ? thanks, nitin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: me-f mirror locked up.
Tried that already :) The batteries were dead but it didnt help. On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 10:09:53PM -0600, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Nitin Garg Subject: me-f mirror locked up. hi, Is there a simple reason why the mirror of ME-F would be locked up, the shutter button would depress freely, and film advance lever is jammed ? Or does that imply a trip to the repair center ? Replace the batteries. Push the shutter button. Just a guess. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax Program Plus
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 09:45:23PM -0600, William Robb wrote: UPS close at 4.30 PM EST and just after lunch Pacific time (Bloody Unions again) no wonder things are SNAFU in Canada. Send it back, get a refund, then report him to the FBI. Shipping something internationally under false auspices must be something they would be interested in. Arent investigation agencies stretched badly most of the time ? I doubt if FBI would do much. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Re: 120 film - developing tanks and reels
From: Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 2 May 2002 10:45:48 -0400 (EDT) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: 120 film - developing tanks and reels Trust me there is nothing better than having life development support with Aaron walking you thru. Very funny slip there on life ;) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Are We Merely Mortal?
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 08:34:47AM -0400, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Comment found on the Leica list: But the Hasselblad, like the Leica, uses its glass to give a transcendent glow, a luminous quality that is not to be found in other cameras meant for mere mortals. Is The Brotherhood comprised of mortals? Try arranging a shooting contest and see who are mortals :) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Sears Auto KS (Ricoh XR-2s): First impressions
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 03:35:35PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The eyepiece blind is a nice touch: It's an internal blind, or shutter, that completely blocks off the light for autoexposed timed shots. Unlike aftermarket blinds like HAMA's, this one allows you to use an eyepiece accessory, such as an eyecup, refconverter (Minolta fits), or 2X magnifier. Interesting :) Didnt know this camera had an internal blind. minolta refconverter work on later ricoh models too. I got one that fits xr-m and xr-10. you had asked me about the focussing speed on xr-10 vs xr-p. I havent had time yet to compare them (and xr-m). If i get time to do it this month will write to you about it. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: In a nutshell - Is Pentax ever going Digital SLR
The best way to merge digital and film is to make *digital film* IMO. Dont know if its possible. Dont think anyone is doing it :) I dont think is going to happen but a On Thu, May 02, 1996 at 07:01:40PM -0700, Jeremy Clegg wrote: I have been away, so I apologize if this topic has been beat to death. Can I be relatively confident that *at some point less than 5 years from now* Pentax will release a Digital SLR that can take all my nice Pentax lenses? I am addicted to Pentax, but also after getting to play with a friend's Canon D30 and his insane lenses, I couldnt help but drool for the days when I can use my Pentax optics for Film or Digital. Thanks Jeremy ( God forbid I should have to sell my Pentax stuff and reinvest in one of the devil's companies ) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS: Black MX, MX winder, Chrome ME Super
Extras from a package I bought. MX - has dent on top of prism housing, near battery cover (so battery cover doesnt come off as easily as they normally do but still does come off :)), some brassing on lower portion of lens mount and at usual edges. works fine. KEH bargain. MX Winder: Broken battery compartment door :) Have to tape it in place to use. Works fine. ME super -- excellent. Some loss of paint on film door. nothing else otherwise. working fine. Got a bunch of misc stuff: cokin and threaded filters, rubber hoods, threaded cable release, bags etc. email me privately if interested. Havent thought about prices. we can fix something mutually agreeable. cheers, nitin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Parts/Service Manuals for 6x7, 35mm, 110, lenses...
#90110. PENTAX 6X7 SINGLE LENS REFLEX CAMERA 145pp, fully illustrated. Reprint of the original factory repair manual; includes exploded views, parts list, full service information. Also includes information on normal lens. $25.00 from http://www.craigcamera.com/newrep.htm maybe you could try your luck with above ? I doubt if it has it but if you need such a book anyways, it might be worth checking. On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 11:04:02AM -0400, Peifer, William [OCDUS] wrote: Hi folks, Ran across the following link and thought I'd share the information. It appears that Finger Lakes Photo Books carries a large selection of service manuals for Spotmatics, K-mount bodies, and 6x7. For instance, the service manual I bought recently off eBay for $40 is available from these folks for $25. Aarrrgh!! Anyway, in case anyone's interested: http://www.photobooksonline.com/books/manual10.html I'm still looking for a service manual -- or even a schematic of the metering circuit -- for a 6x7 TTL prism finder. They don't seem to have one of these. TTFN! Bill Peifer Rochester, NY - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Wide angle lenses
http://home.att.net/~alnem/html/3rdpartyprime.html i got the vivitar 19/3.8 recently too. Will use it soon:) On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 04:14:20PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, I can't speak to the 24mm as the widest I currently have is a 28mm. I am awaiting delivery of a 19mm prime Vivitar f3.8 lens though. I don't need the speed of the 24mm (or the auto focus for that matter) and the used Vivitar cost me a lot less than half the BH price that you quote for the 24mm and offers a wider field of view. I'll report once I get it. Cheers, Dave Hi all- What do you all recommend for a good wide-angle lens? The only new lens I can find wider than 28mm that isn't really expensive is the 24mm f2.0 SMCP-FA IF lens that BH sells for $350. Any experience w/ this lens? I'll be using it on a MF camera (Super A, Super Program), so if the focus ring has a super-short travel, I'm in trouble. Taka mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 300mm f4 screwmount lens- value?
About ~$140 on ebay. $225 on keh. (for super-takumar 300/4) On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 09:53:07PM -0400, TM wrote: How much is one of these things worth? You don't see many of these available, so it's hard to value. Then again, do I really need a 300mm lens? Hmmm. Taka - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 300mm f4 screwmount lens- value?
On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 10:13:56PM -0400, TM wrote: I can't find any screwmount info- if this lens optically is like the K300/4, then it sounds like a good lens, esp. for $140, no? 140 is extrapolated price from keh's price. no gurantee you will find it for that on ebay. with patientce you should be able to. 1 went for 160 odd 2 mins ago (and it looked great). - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ZX-L question
As mentioned on the list before: metal. On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 10:46:24PM -0700, Ron Bhanukitsiri wrote: Does anyone know if the new ZX-L uses a plastic lens mount or metal lens mount? Thanks, Ron B[ee] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
saving slides with water drops on them.
Hi, An offending water droplet landed right on my slide today (thankfully only a shot of architecture here so can take it again sometime). How do I get rid of the spot it formed there ? I also noticed the slide mounting eats away into a portion of the shot all around. Is this standard or are there places that dont do this ? What about those that do their own mounting ? Or should I start just getting them cut and sleeved ? thanks, nitin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: saving slides with water drops on them.
On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 06:50:40PM -0600, William Robb wrote: An offending water droplet landed right on my slide today (thankfully only a shot of architecture here so can take it again sometime). How do I get rid of the spot it formed there ? It is there forever. Nothing will remove it. yikes! I will be more careful with my slides in future :) What about those that do their own mounting ? Or should I start just getting them cut and sleeved ? Cut and sleeved is one option. I learned to crop a wee bit loose to make up for the cutoff from slide mounts and printers. I think if you are scanning them, cut and sleeved might be better. It would be intersting to know what a good slide mount's window size is. for the present I do scan them. I do intend to get myself a slide projector sometime in future so will need mounted slides then. How easy (and more importantly clean) is it to mount the slides yourself ? As an aside question, can the HP S10 be taught to scan reversal film strips correctly? you reminded me of this page: http://www.virtualtraveller.org/epson2450.htm which i had found when someone (david?) recommended the above scanner to jco. This talks about getting good scans from xp2 by treating it as color slide. I wonder if something similar can be done to the scanner you mention ? This is just a wild theory tho. I dont even know what the HP S10 looks like :) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cut and sleeved slides and scanning film strips (was: saving slides with water drops on them)
Another slide question :) If by mistake one gets a fingerprint on a slide (havent done that yet but i do it to prints all the time) is there any better way to clean it than wiping with a soft microfiber cloth ? thanks, nitin On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 09:22:47PM -0400, Christian Skofteland wrote: I just discovered that cut and sleeved slides are a much better option for scanning. I've had major dust issues and with no slide mounts it makes it easier to clean the strip before it goes in the scanner. I also think that the film strip is flatter and gets a better scan. I use an HP photosmart scsi scanner. It's old and honestly I don't know what model it is (I think S20 but the scanner software says S10/S20). It gives me many options as far as film, transparency, or print format is concerned. The past few days it has been handling color slide strips at 2400dpi beautifully. I hope this answers your question about teaching your scanner. Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cut and sleeved is one option. I learned to crop a wee bit loose to make up for the cutoff from slide mounts and printers. I think if you are scanning them, cut and sleeved might be better. It would be intersting to know what a good slide mount's window size is. As an aside question, can the HP S10 be taught to scan reversal film strips correctly? William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: saving slides with water drops on them.
I am sure you have a fix for world's hunger and peace problem too ;) On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 06:23:08PM -0700, Bill D. Casselberry wrote: Nitin wrote: An offending water droplet landed right on my slide today (thankfully only a shot of architecture here so can take it again sometime). How do I get rid of the spot it formed there ? Holding the slide about a half inch above a candle flame will fix that offensive water spot for good. - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cut and sleeved slides and scanning film strips (was: saving slides with water drops on them)
On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 09:58:48PM -0600, William Robb wrote: If by mistake one gets a fingerprint on a slide (havent done that yet but i do it to prints all the time) is there any better way to clean it than wiping with a soft microfiber cloth ? I haven't found one yet. Anything that lands on the base side may be removable (including the aformentioned water drop). ok, yet another (dumb) question: which is the base side ? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cut and sleeved slides and scanning film strips (was: saving slides with water drops on them)
On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 10:30:35PM -0600, William Robb wrote: ok, yet another (dumb) question: which is the base side ? The side that doesn't have the emulsion on it. If you are looking at the slide, and the image is the right way around, you are looking at the base. cool! :) Thanks for all the helpful info. cheers, nitin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Downloading the PUG
There is an equivalent of wget for windows systems. You basically drop the URL http://pug.komkon.org/02may/ (for this months thing) into it. Ask it to fetch everything from it recursively but not to span domains or ascend directory structure (so it wont goto http://pug.komkon.org/anyonther_link_not_starting_with_02may ). You can make it accept only html and jpg files (or only jpg files if you dont want to see the rest of picture info) etc. Having said that there is a program for your needs, I dont remember what it was called :) I think there are a couple of them. I used it long time ago while doing internship and being forced to use windows based machine. It was pretty good and free (or was there a trial period?) although still not as versatile as wget :) Ofcourse there is a windows executable version of wget itself :)(see http://www.interlog.com/~tcharron/wgetwin.html ) But it runs only from the command prompt (ie no gui unless it changed since i last used it on windows 2 yrs ago) which some find bothersome while others desire. There is another program called cURL (again has windows version as well -- http://curl.haxx.se/ ) which has even more features than wget. I havent used if much tho. cheers, nitin On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 03:43:34PM +1000, Anthony Farr wrote: Dear Pugmeisters, Is there an easy way to download the whole PUG without clicking through each picture individually. I thought it would be nice if I could start the process and then go to lunch, or go and play with my 18 month old boy, while the pics downloaded automatically. Then I could review the lot as a slide-show at my leisure. If such a process exposes the PUG to image harvesters, then how about being able to request the pics as an email with attachments, or split up into several emails if attachment sizes or mailbox capacities are a problem. Just a suggestion. Regards, Anthony Farr - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: XR Rikenon P 50/2, two thumbs up
On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 09:34:46AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last week I received the color prints from the first roll of film for which I used an XR Rikenon P 50/2. This is the giveaway lens that comes with so many Ricoh and Sears bodies sold on EBay and elsewhere. At last count, I have 3 of these :) And all of them came attached with other stuff. I am going to sell 2 of them when I have more time. I'd still like to try an XR RIkenon 50/1.4P, which I hear may be even better from f/2 to f/4. When introducing the P versions, Ricoh gave its XR Rikenon 50/1.4 and 50/1.7 a tweaked optical design and multicoating. The 50/2, I believe, remained optically unchanged. The Sears versions of the 1/4 and 1.7 are the pre-P versions; I don't know about the Sears 50/2. The XR designation was dropped and lenses were called Rikenon P. Atleast thats what i am guessing from my lenses all of which say Rikenon P and not XR Rikenon P. Does your 50/2 say XR Rikenon P ? If I didnt use my 50/1.4 P regularly, I would have lent it to you :) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: escaping viruses from the list with netscape 4.6
I got the same email too. It certainly wanst local settings that did anything to it -- i get mail on a unix server that never has to bother with such things :). The deletion must have happened at the list server end. On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 10:42:28AM -0400, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Well guys I got this bit of email I am pasting below from mail in my inbox this morning - note the note at the bottom about deleted .exe file Is it my server protecting me or just my Netscape settings or the list setting that rejects automatically .exe files. ? This came directly to my inbox that is for personal mail, not in my PDML folder. I'm not sure whether I'm writing a warning or a query here :) Comments please guys... the original mail is going in my trash folder pronto. annsan (mail pasted below) vvv_ Your dealers can take advantage of all these great offers and still receive price protection on April 1, 2001 for any unsold units purchased within the last 90 days. Please note that promo money on the IQZoom EZY-S QD and IQZoom 80-S QD will go away on April 1, 2001. We believe the new prices will be sufficient to drive the product at retail. [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of offer.exe] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . __AAA_ THe sender name was D.G. Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
neat pile
http://www.pgoodrick.fsnet.co.uk/lkdsl.htm found by chance when testing network connection. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: about LX prices
On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 08:18:30PM -0400, Christian Skofteland wrote: Probably a good deal, but it's going to need a CLA. They all need CLAs. well, I can return it instead :) ;-) Christian - Original Message - From: Nitin Garg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 8:12 PM Subject: about LX prices 8.5 cosmetically (seller's rating so consider it inflated?) but in perfect working condition (no sticky mirror etc) with 50mm 1.7 lens and grid screen for $350. Is that a good, bad or ok deal ? :) thanks, nitin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: about LX prices
i see :) So i take it to mean its a good deal. thanks for the inputs. cheers, nitin On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 09:03:49PM -0400, Christian Skofteland wrote: That's what I was thinking Christian On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 08:18:30PM -0400, I wrote: Probably a good deal, but it's going to need a CLA. They all need CLAs. And Nitin responded with: well, I can return it instead :) To which William Robb commented: Fer that price, if you want an LX, just buy it and get it CLA'd if it needs it. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Another bargain!
S76, LR44,.. the list of compatible battery is long :) Just take the one you took to store and ask for an equivalent one. On Sun, Apr 28, 2002 at 06:53:17PM +1000, John Coyle wrote: Picked an ESII in not bad condition today, for A$55 including an SMC 50/1,4 and a Vivitar 2x converter, a couple of irrelevant flash guns and a close up lens #4, all in an aluminium case. Unfortunately, the lens had obviously been run over by a truck, as the barrel was oval rather than round. Somebody had tried to make it seem Ok by filling the barrel with oil, losing a couple of retaining screws in the process of disassembling it! I'll only keep it to practice taking it apart! It's all cleaned up now and the question I have is: does anyone know the equivalent current battery to replace the A76's I found in it? John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
marker bid of a different kind.... (smc 50mm f1.2)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1349304300 I remember someone here looking for 50/1.2 and that the last one went for much more than this. I dont need or particularly want this one. Whoever wants it can take it :) (err... not free ofcourse). Is there any place where pdml-ers have noted the lenses they are looking for and the price expected ? That would allow others to help out when they can. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The old digital/film debate
On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 10:28:28AM +1000, Rob Studdert wrote: One interesting exclusion in the current crop of digital cameras is that even though they write all manner of information into the file at the time of capture none provide an option for the camera owner/authors name to be embedded in the file. I wonder when this will become an option? I guess this is easier done in post-processing instead of by the camera. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The old digital/film debate
On Sun, Apr 28, 2002 at 10:11:59PM -0400, Mishka wrote: Whatever you hide into your image, unless it is showing on the print, it can be removed simply by re-JPEG-ing it. Digital watermarking is more involved then that. Simple re-JPEG-ing (like the sound of it :)) wont work without degrading image quality. But still, its relatively easy to remove it. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: I WON!!! at Ebay
That doesnt work for me atleast as i work from different comps at different times. On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 10:35:16AM +, Paul Stenquist wrote: Why not just bookmark auctions you're interested in? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got one of those marker bids on the A100/2.8 Macro that just appeared - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Vivitar Series I, 19-35.
On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 12:43:28PM -0400, Mark Cassino wrote: At 10:56 AM 4/27/2002 -0400, jeff wrote: How good is this lens? I found it to be good, with the only major weakness being flare when the sun directly hits the front element. Otherwise it is sharp and contrasty. I had one for a shot while, but did not use it a whole lot. Here are a couple sample shots taken with it: http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/skanee/skanee25.htm I like this shot. If one ignores dilapidated walls behind, the rest can easily pass of as something in an advanced lab as shown in movies :) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Ebay search -- anyone knows the rules?
http://pages.ebay.com/help/buyerguide/search.html On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 09:43:04PM -0400, Mishka wrote: Does anyone has pointers to the complete syntaxis of Ebay search engine queries? I have been able to find by trial and error that (pentax, smc, pentex) 85mm -(takumar,zoom,screw,67,6x7,645,af,fa) searches everything having pentax OR smc OR pentex, must have 85mm in it, and shouldn't have anything from the takumar,zoom,screw,67,6x7,645,af,fa list. Any additions? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: I WON!!! at Ebay
On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 06:54:10PM -0600, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Nitin Garg Subject: Re: I WON!!! at Ebay That doesnt work for me atleast as i work from different comps at different times. Goshers, you mean you might actually have to pull out a pen and WRITE something on a piece of paper and take it with you from one computer to the other??? Sometimes, life can be so difficult. WW Aww.. there there. poor baby. I didnt know the extra few $ you had to pay due to some lowball marker hurt you so much. Lifes been SO hard on you. Try emulating your online watchlist on a piece of paper for some time. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
good m42 deal on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1348986203 Its $58 including shipping BIN price. Seems pretty good to me. NMA. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
interesting item...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1348991267 ugly but nice ? :) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS: AF 500 FTZ Flash possibly 50mm FA 2.8 Macro
hi, I have an almost new barely used 500 FTZ flash. I was hoping to use it with whichever pentax af body i get after my zx-5n died. But i am pretty happy with my current manual bodies and dont see getting a af body for quite sometime. I dont use flash much anyways. So, its up for sale. BH lists new one for $295. I dont have the manual for it but only the pouch. How about $210 plus shipping ? About the FA 50mm 2.8 macro: Its nicely built and quite useable on mf bodies. But I BINned a kiron 105/2.8 today which i think will suit my needs better. This lens is in very good condition BUT its front element has 2 marks on it. It still works great ( http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~nitin/duke ) but well the blemishes are there. If someone wants it for $210 plus shipping, I will sell it, else I am keeping it :) (of course if the kiron lens thing turns out bad, i am keeping it). nitin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: I WON!!! at Ebay
On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 01:02:12AM -0400, Fred wrote: Just one point more: I wonder just how many (few?) times there have been where someone has spotted something interesting on eBay - something so interesting that he/she wanted to bid on it him/herself - that he/she ~still~ blabbed about it on the PDML anyway... not quite it but i was about to buy the M42 deal i posted about today :) Dont know what made me stop. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: I WON!!! at Ebay
On Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 10:09:55PM -0400, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Another thing that happens is that often a number of people, some with absolutely no intention of buying the item, place marker bids so that they can more easily track the auction. This, too, drives the price up. I do that all the time mainly because of only 20 watchable limit by ebay. I disagree on the no-intention tho. The markers are usually low enough that i would be more than happy to buy things at that price :) It doesnt make sense for anyone to place a marker at a value they wouldnt want to pay in case they won it. So thats not really driving up the price. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Portrait lens recommendations?
The takumar bayonet lenses were cheap consumer grade k-mount lenses. not worth $100 at all. There are better performing lenses available for less. On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 05:45:18PM -0400, J. Gerace wrote: hcan you explain why? Nitin Garg wrote: If its the pentax takumar bayonet lens then its very bad. If its the pentax takumar screwmount lens then its expensive tho not bad. On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 03:57:17PM -0400, J. Gerace wrote: O.K. - you're starting to scare me.: ) I just 'won' a Pentax Takumar 135 2.5 lens on e-bay for $100.Is this bad? Julia James Adams wrote: Peter wrote Well, I am shooting on the 135mm F2.5 Takumar at present. Although I have both the Super Tak 135mm f3.5 and SMC Tak 135mm f3.5 lenses, I have tended to use my SMC Takumar 105mm f2.8 for Portraits. Now that I'm starting BW again, I might experiment with 135mm lenses. James - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: m42 to K adapter -- experience?
On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 11:28:30PM -0400, Mishka wrote: How painful is it? Not at all if you dont try to change between m42 and k mount lenses. Does that mean stop-down metering? Yes. I have heard that these are not lens adapters, but body adapters, whatever that menas. Never heard this before now :) Does it make difficult to swap lenses? No. Switching m42 lenses is pretty quick and easy. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Ricoh XR-M vs. XR-P viewfinder (was: mixed day)
On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 09:39:31AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nitin, The XR-P and its successor, the XR-M, use the same matte. But the XR-P offers a larger magnification (0.88X vs., I think, 0.80) and the aperture window. That, and the option of manual film advance, is why I prefer it to the XR-M. :) i see. I do see the point of manual advance... i prefer it myself and its ironic thats the thing that conked off on my xr-m :(( - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Slow ebay seller
http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MemberSearchShow fill in the contact info request form and ebay will email you the address and contact info they have on file. Hopefully it will still be valid. If its invalid then increase your level of worry about the transaction and act accordingly :) On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 06:21:13PM -0400, TM wrote: Peter- I don't have the guy's phone number, else I would call him. No checks to clear- PayPal and it has already gone through. Taka -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Slow ebay seller In a message dated 18/04/02 18:03:01 GMT Daylight Time, Taka writes: Any advice on how to prod a slow ebayer? I've paid him already and yet he has not responded for 4 days now. I'm getting worried. Taka. You know, you can always use the phone. I do that sometimes, when there's no response - seems like a call from merry olde Englande jumpstarts them into action you're calling from.ENGLAND? Besides which, how did you pay him? Maybe a check has to clear? Kind regards Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What is SMC-F designation?
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 07:58:29AM +0100, John Leonard wrote: SMC-A is manual focus, auto aperture. SMC-FA is auto focus, auto aperture but so (it seems) is SMC-F So what _IS_ SMC-F lens as distinct from SMC-FA? SMC-F is not auto-aperture. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Did I Miss A Bargain?
For quick rough translations use babelfish.altavista.com (google has translate.google.com iirr). Also, the pic shown in the auction is that of a nikon mount lens. On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 09:42:47PM -0500, Ken Archer wrote: I saw this today with about 25 minutes to go didn't have time to get the German translated. Anyone have any experience with a Cosina 20mm...just in case another shows up sometime in the future. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1344823933r=0t=0showTutorial=0ed=1019072822indexURL=0rd=1 -- Kenneth Archer, San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Did I Miss A Bargain?
http://translation.langenberg.com/#WebPage is another place. looked for language translators on google :) On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 11:23:19PM -0500, Ken Archer wrote: For some reason, don't ask me why, the security on network at work will allow you to go to Google, but you can't use its language tools. I know the picture shows a Nikon mount, but then I got the impression the picture on the listing wasn't a picture of the actual lens. It looks a little too polished to be the work of the average seller on ebay. On Wednesday 17 April 2002 10:21 pm, Nitin Garg wrote: For quick rough translations use babelfish.altavista.com (google has translate.google.com iirr). Also, the pic shown in the auction is that of a nikon mount lens. On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 09:42:47PM -0500, Ken Archer wrote: I saw this today with about 25 minutes to go didn't have time to get the German translated. Anyone have any experience with a Cosina 20mm...just in case another shows up sometime in the future. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1344823933r=0t =0showTutorial=0ed=1019072822indexURL=0rd=1 -- Kenneth Archer, San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kenneth Archer, San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Your desert-island kit?
If non-pentax k-mount bodies are allowed, the ricoh's xr-s (has solar cells) could be 1 option for a sunny island where battery availability is an issue and one really wants TTL metering and other assorted power requiring goodies. On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 02:14:55PM -0400, Bill Owens wrote: Wow, the fixed focal length makes this a toughie. I'd probably go with the MZ-S and my M100/4.0 Macro. The MZ-S because of the easy to use interface, and the M100 Macro because I like shooting flowers. However, if I was on a desert island, batteries would be a problem, so the best choice then would be my Honeywell Spotmatic with the Vivitar 50mm 1.8. The spotmatic because of not needing batteries and the Vivitar 50mm because it's the only screw mount 50mm I have. Bill KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 12:09 PM Subject: Your desert-island kit? Ok, here's a new question for you on this bright and happy Monday. Say you have to pare your camera gear down to one body and one fixed-focal-length lens for the next couple of years. The body and lens to come from your current gear selection. What will it be, and why? I'll go first: My MZ-S and SMC-A 50mm F2.8 Macro. Why? I love the MZ-S user interface. The 50 is wide enough for at least some people shots, works well as a landscape lens, and is a reasonable macro lens. I'll miss a telephoto lens, but this setup covers most of my productive shooting. --Mark - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Recommendations
The two questions I have are: 1. Which 35mm camera body should I get (Pentax of course). An old manual focus classic or a new, auto focus gem? If so why and if not why not? Would you recommend other brands (sacrilege)? I would say ricoh body :) Pretty good and cheap. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
pleasantly surprised by my xr-m
I finished my first roll of film in my xr-m. It was a pleasant surprise to find out when opening the back to take the film out that the leader was still out! The manual makes no mention of film leader out on rewind but if this is a assumed feature its pretty neat(and i hope the midroll rewind does the same). I always wanted that in my auto-rewind cameras (xr-10m doesnt have it. zx-5n doesnt). No of shots left (once it is less than 9 on DX encoded film) display in viewfinder can be helpful too tho i dont think i would ever use that. On the negative side, it doesnt let me fire the shutter unless there is film inside. And the rewind is noisy. its neat. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: pleasantly surprised by my xr-m
hi, On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 09:52:57PM +0100, Bob Walkden wrote: Hi, On the Contax RX you have a PF option which lets you choose whether to rewind fully into the cassette, or leave the leader out. I used to make it rewind fully, but that caused problems when I wanted to mid-roll rewind, so changed to leader out. One good feature of the camera is that when it's finished rewinding, if you do want to wind back into the cassette you just push the rewind lever again and back in it goes. Very convenient. The new pentax zx-l also has this feature and i was considering buying that once my 5n died. But i heard people complaining about its pentamirror so havent bought it yet. Wanted to try it out first. But now i think i dont do much photography that warrants AF anyways so i am okay with my MF cameras. That does leave my 500ftz lying around unused for now. I am actually also considering buying a contax slr system (was very impressed by the G2 and now have a G1+45mm lens). But cant afford to do it now so waiting for a better time or a good deal :). I am thinking between 167MT, AX, and maybe RX as the body (might just get a yashica body if money is tight) and of course zeiss lenses. An even better idea, imo, is to have a smart rewind. If it rewinds automatically on end-of-roll then it should rewind fully back into the cassette. If the photographer initiates the rewind by pressing the lever then it should leave the leader out. yep that would be neat. But there should be override mechanism there too in case someone wants it. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
lens adapters
just wondering: What all lens mount types have adapters available to mount them on pentax k bodies. The adapter should be without an optical element preferably. M42 lens is 1. What other mounts ? thanks, nitin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Best Deal Ever?
Being price sensitive, I have actually got most of my equipment at low prices. My latest buy (a smc k 135-600mm) seems like a very good buy too. I paid $550. Keh's online quote thingie says they will pay $766 for it :) Looks like I will be able to recover my money and finance some more stuff if I dont find much use for it. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Used flashes- good or bad?
Used flashes are fine and cost less too. $90 for the af-280t sounds expensive to me however. It could be reasonable tho. I dont have it so dont know :) On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 10:28:26AM -0400, TM wrote: Considering that a AF-280T costs about $150 new, is it worthwhile to buy a used one in excellent condition for about $90? Also, stupid newbie question- how does one tell whether a flash can communicate w/ the camera's hotshoe? I have a Minolta flash that my Dad was using w/ his Spotmatic via a PC cable connection on the body- it fires in 125X flash sync mode with my Super A but without any metering info. While I highly doubt that this flash can communicate with the Super A, I just thought I'd ask. I'm getting the AF-280T anyway, just a matter of whether to buy new or used. Taka - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Collecting cameras
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 10:51:34AM -0400, J. C. O'Connell wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christian Skofteland Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Whats your most used Camera? I have only two cameras a LX and MX. The LX is by far my most used camera. Christian Only 2? I have about 50. 50 ?!! Wow! :) Do you have even more lenses ? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Can K1000 meter correctly with M42 lenses ?
In the auto mode, the lens diaphragm stays open so the meter needle wont move. And the K-mount cams have no mechanism to push the pin of SM lens which causes the lens to stop down. So one has to always use them in manual setting (ie stop down metering). This actually allowed me to buy cheaply lenses with stuck auto-man switch or sticky diaphragm but otherwise good for use on k-mount bodies as these dont matter :) On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 12:41:30AM -0600, William Robb wrote: That would explain the several stops discrepancies I got between metering with a 50mm f/2 bayonet lens and a 55mm f/2 M42 lens, I guess. I also discovered that the lens needs to be in the manual setting to get the meter to deflect at all. William Robb Yes it can! When you put the screwmount adapter on, the open aperture sensor on the K1000 body, goes to rest on the WIDE OPEN position, that is to say the camera thinks the lens will operate at zero stops down from the current aperture setting. Thus as you stop the lens down it gives a true reading as the aperture gets smaller or larger. This is the way the original spotmatic meter works except it didnt have a aperture cam sensing resistor and always assume the f-stop chosen was the fstop for shooting. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Best 2X TC for K mount
I read somewhere (dont remember where) that 7 element converters are much better than 4 element ones (or was it the other way round ? :)) I guess thats not much of a help :D On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 02:45:14AM -0400, J. C. O'Connell wrote: Did Pentax make a high performance K mount 2X teleconvertor for long lenses? I want one to try on my SMCK 1000mm F8. If not Pentax, who made the best one? I dont care about meter coupling, I'll be using manual exposure. JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: someone was selling pictures on ebay... question..
http://www.mail-archive.com/pentax-discuss@pdml.net/msg66732.html Ann Sanfedele i know has done this before. But thats an old post. You might be talking of some other recent post. On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 09:08:26AM +0200, Rogier van der Peijl wrote: Someone mentioned he was selling pictures on ebay when I asked whether people are pro or do it as a hobby (photography I mean). Don't remember who it was, but I was wondering under which section you are selling it on ebay.. Cause I'd like to take a look (just interested) regards, Rogier _ Chat on line met vrienden en probeer MSN Messenger uit: http://messenger.msn.nl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Spike's History ?
When i saw the move A Beautiful Mind the credits said inspired from the events in the life of john nash. It didnt say based on true story. On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 09:04:54AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't that the same way that the recent academy award winning A Beautiful Mind won their oscar ? I never ventured to see the film but all the bruhaha about it centered around the fact that it was VERY loosely based on the main characters life but it was marketed and touted as being based on a true story. Very little of it being actually true or real. By this I mean, any story can be true if you choose it to be. Perhaps a better tagline would/should be based on reality. Then of course you get into the whole parallel universe discussions and the whole bunk about virtual reality etc. Just meandering thoughts, Dave Original Message: - From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 08:03:08 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Top 5 SLR - was RE: On Tuesday, April 9, 2002, at 03:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom wrote: Make your own list, buddy. Reminds me of Spike Lee's response when others fault his movies for presenting his own people--or another group--in an unfavorable light: Paraphrasing: It's my movie. You don't like it the way I made it? Make your own. I don't blame him. I remember him saying this. Didn't he also address one critic's dislike of the way he chose to represent (or leave out) some historical events in Malcolm X by saying Where's [critic's name]'s film about Malcolm X? -Aaron mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Spike's History ?
as was the pen giving tradition. On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 10:47:37AM -0400, Mick Maguire wrote: I heard that the Nobel speech was also a work of fiction too, that he wasn't allowed to speak at all. Regards, /\/\ick... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: OT: Spike's History ?
yes i remember the commercials too which is why i was surprised to see the change in the tone in the credits. After having scenee the movie and talked to friends who had read the book it was fairly obvious why they had to change that :) Perhaps they started out trying to make an based on.. version but later changed too many undesirable aspects to improve feel good factor in movie that it no longer was remotely based on... type :) On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 11:04:14AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ya.. Like I said in my original mail: I never ventured to see the film. I also said that it was marketed as based on a true story (I can remember the radio/tv commercials). I never made claims that the film actually had that phrase in the trailer/credits. Cheers, Dave Original Message: - From: Nitin Garg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 10:45:22 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Spike's History ? When i saw the move A Beautiful Mind the credits said inspired from the events in the life of john nash. It didnt say based on true story. On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 09:04:54AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't that the same way that the recent academy award winning A Beautiful Mind won their oscar ? I never ventured to see the film but all the bruhaha about it centered around the fact that it was VERY loosely based on the main characters life but it was marketed and touted as being based on a true story. Very little of it being actually true or real. By this I mean, any story can be true if you choose it to be. Perhaps a better tagline would/should be based on reality. Then of course you get into the whole parallel universe discussions and the whole bunk about virtual reality etc. Just meandering thoughts, Dave Original Message: - From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 08:03:08 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Top 5 SLR - was RE: On Tuesday, April 9, 2002, at 03:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom wrote: Make your own list, buddy. Reminds me of Spike Lee's response when others fault his movies for presenting his own people--or another group--in an unfavorable light: Paraphrasing: It's my movie. You don't like it the way I made it? Make your own. I don't blame him. I remember him saying this. Didn't he also address one critic's dislike of the way he chose to represent (or leave out) some historical events in Malcolm X by saying Where's [critic's name]'s film about Malcolm X? -Aaron mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: FUJI 100/100 SLIDE FILM
This link might help: http://www.photographyreview.com/pscFilm/Slide,Film/Fuji,MS,100-1000/PRD_83345_3118crx.aspx On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 08:18:17PM -0400, J. C. O'Connell wrote: JUST BOUGHT 5 120 ROLLS OF FUJI 100/1000 SLIDE FILM. ( 99 CENTS A ROLL!) Anyone ever used this stuff? Apparent you can use it at any speed from 100 to 1000 and have it developed according. What is the speed for normal E6 processing? JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Slashdotted! Amy Hughes Lego Church
Whats wrong with /. ? I have never been to the site. Just asking. On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 10:26:58PM -0400, David Brooks wrote: Amy did great work,but my initial impressions of /. are 'control/alt delete' Dave Begin Original Message From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 22:12:37 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Slashdotted! Amy Hughes Lego Church Jerome Daryl Coombs-Reyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, Slashdot covered Amy Hughes Lego church Nice! I glanced at the coverage. Â Is it just me, or was the comment, a monument to dead cats, no less quite callous, and almost downright rude A lot of the comments reminded me why I don't bother with /. and why I find it hard to believe it was once considered the epitome of hip on the Internet. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. Â To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Most Used Body Survey
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 01:52:05PM +1000, Paul Jones wrote: Hi, My most used body at the moment is not actualy a Pentax. Then what is it ? :) I currently use ricoh xr-m and xr-10m. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-6 - Cable Switch CS-205
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 02:35:06PM +0800, Simon King wrote: Hi All, I plan to make some comments on my new MZ-6 soon, but first of all a question. The remote cable release for the MZ-6/ZX-L is Cable Switch CS-205 which has a different plug to the cable switch F. It's looks just like - indeed fits - a 2.5mm jack. Does anyone have a Cable Switch CS-205. If all the switch does is a simple short/open circuit, it would be a cinch to make up ones own cable release. I hope it is! I have a wireless remote release which supposedly works for all such cameras (i have seen generic brand ones on ebay for about $4-$5 each) and it would be cool if i can use it with zx-l as well (i am still not decided about buying it. will goto bh sometime and handle it to see). Let me know if it works out :) cheers, nitin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The Queen Mum
Japan and most of east asia (china, phillipines etc) are still not on the best of terms. What is history and what is recent past are very subjective. Its great that many animosities went by in a couple of generations -- that is source of hope that things turn out well. It is also true that some didn't -- and that is a warning that things can go wrong. Blind optimism that all animosity goes away is idiocy. Some of it needs harder scrubbing to wipe out. You need to understand that. Being optimistic about it is correct attitude as long as you realize it doesnt happen that way always. Each of these case is different enough that the only rule you can carry over from one to the next is: everyones better off if its worked out instead of letting it smoulder. You dont whack bin laden on the head and say dude, be enlightened. Dont harbor hatred of centuries past. That wont work. He already has it. He is a gone case. What is important is to realise that whether its unenlightened or not, such hatred exists and its better dealth with before it causes a disaster. And all this has nothing to do with the queen. This is even more OT and only started because I responded to someone's post about not pulling up things from long ago. And I am not learning history at princeton. On the contrary, I avoid all current news which isnt of immediate significant impact to my day to day life. On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 10:05:39AM -0700, Bob Blakely wrote: Idiocy! The Canadians (then actually the Brits) burned down our White House! This is history. Now we are the best of friends. My Mom cherishes a book titled Between Friends. It's a photo essay with photographs of every inch of the Canadian - American boarder. The Brits declared war on us after the revolution (often referred to as the rebellion in Briton) - the War of 1812. When we had our Civil War, they sided with the Confederacy. Today we are the best of friends. Japan was once our enemy having bombed Pearl Harbor and destroying most of our Navy. We fought a long and bloody war with them and with Germany as well. Today we are friends with both, and Americans think very highly of Japan and Germany. They are not a danger to us any more, nor are we a danger to them. We are the best of friends. Vietnam is over and we lost. We still have within us some serious negative feelings about each other, but we are both trying to normalize relations. The present vestiges of animosity will dissipate when my generation is gone. History is to learn from, not to ferment the hate of centuries from. September 11 is a clear and present danger, not just to the US, but to the entire civilized world. It is not history. It is current events with current impact. It comes with the danger of the same persons spawning further, similar incidents. When all is past into history and the danger is (hopefully) over, we will eventually be friends. This is considerably more enlightened thought than the harboring the hatred of centuries past. It amazes me that you appear unable to see the difference. What the hell are you doing at Princeton? Learning only the events of history and non of it's lessons? Regards, Bob... --- In the carboniferous epoch we were promised perpetual peace. They swore if we gave up our weapons that the wars of the tribes would cease. But when we disarmed they sold us, and delivered us, bound, to our foe. And the gods of the copybook headings said, 'Stick to the devil you know.' --Rudyard Kipling From: Nitin Garg [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 10:14:35PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: Nitin Garg wrote: On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 04:39:59PM -0700, Bill D. Casselberry wrote: Nitin wrote: Doesnt always work. Did the US govt say that to sept 11 and move on ? That has nothing to do with the death of a lady who was incidental to world politics. You are not thinking very clearly, Nitin. It has if u bother to stop and think about what it was said in response to. You dont always let go of something which happens saying oh, its becuase of a heap of history. No one thinks bin laden was a victim and pushed into terrorism (well maybe his supporters do). You hold him RESPONSIBLE for what he did. You dont say well so and so things happened in his life which made him do so but otherwise he is good man. So you cant say hey she just happened to become queen and her ancestors did all the colonization. She continued it and by that endorsed it. Even though one is not responsible for what was done in past but one can become a party to it depending upon how you choose to react to it. Some do remember what your predecessors did and DO hold you responsible (you can say its shouldnt be so, but if it is, it is). Sept 11 wouldnt have happened if no one was like that. No one is going to land a plane in buckingham palace but some do hold its present and past
Re: OT: Rechargeable Lithium Batteries
purely from a how it should be perspective, i wouldnt worry about religiously keeping the batteries charged. But i would periodly recharge them so i dont find it dead when i need it. On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 11:20:51PM -0800, RK wrote: Recently purchased a spare set of rechargeable Lithium's for my Kodak and just wondered if I should keep them charged and let them self-discharge and then charge them again or just store them away until the original set go kaput and then use them? Any/all views gratefully accepted:-) Thanks, RK - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The Queen Mum
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 11:06:46AM -0700, Bob Blakely wrote: More idiocy! bah. Nor does it make her responsible. It does when the same colonial rule continues in the same way during her time as well. You do not understand responsibility. To be responsible for anything, you have to have control or authority over it. The Queen Mum had no control or authority over anything of the like. She had the privileges. By remaining silent on it, she (and all british folks of that time) implicitly take responsibility for it because they all enjoyed the benefits of it. She gets to represent the responsibility becuase she was the queen (the king does too but we arent talking about that here). Did she ever express so much as a belief that colonialism's impact might be harmful? An ordinary person's opinion might not have mattered. Hers would have. She is morally responsible. Legally, maybe not. Now whos doing what here ? I didnt attack anyone on the list personally. I say the queen is responsible and i say it again. Defend that if you must. Dont bunk the strawman. Again, you cannot demonstrate that the Queen Mum had any control or authority to change British policity. Did any member of royal family ever say (even unofficially) that colonialism was harming the native population in places where it obviously was ? Present british folks I have met admit wrongs were done and that is enough for me. I know the british govt helped in ways it could after India became independent. But was there an admission of wrong-doing? no. What does that mean ? tact-schmact. If you have problems with HOW i said things, that is fine. I can change my tact if someone has a problem but address WHAT i said as well. I have a problem with your lack of understanding of responsibility. It is paticularly obnoxous to me that you attempt to make the Queen Mum responsible for something over which she had no control or authority. She may have been Queen, but she had NO AUTHORITY. She was titled Queen because her husband George VI was King. Rail against him if you must. The authority actually rested squarely with the British Parliament. You, being Indian, should know this. England took great amounts of wealth from india (at the cost of welfare of the people there) over a long time. You say the british parliament is responsible ? Who elected them ? Whose bidding were they doing ? The people of england. The queen is part of the people of england. They all share in some of the responsibility. Why was her stand particularly important ? She was the queen. No authority or control you say ? Thats a lame excuse. She had the capacity to do something about it. She didnt. Did she ever say she should have ? No. India. People there have done wrong too (and sadly they do it more to each other everyday). I still hold some of them dear but I wont deny that they are responsible for their actions (or failure to take action). So there we are. You are nothing but piss and hate. Its so convenient to use insults when you dont have anything better to say. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The Queen Mum
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 11:06:46AM -0700, Bob Blakely wrote: Japan and most of east asia (china, phillipines etc) are still not on the best of terms. What is history and what is recent past are very subjective. Its great that many animosities went by in a couple of generations -- that is source of hope that things turn out well. It is also true that some didn't -- and that is a warning that things can go wrong. Yes. There are many persons like you in this world willing to dig the knife into old wounds. old wounds and new wounds are subjective. Deep wounds tend to take longer to heal. Blind optimism that all animosity goes away is idiocy. Nothing I said suggests that blind optimism, or any kind of optimism for that matter. All was said to show that things can be different. And there was no need to show that. If that is all you wanted to show, it was irrelevant or it meant to me what i said above. Some of it needs harder scrubbing to wipe out. This is work, an internal work of the heart, and you are unwilling to do it. No one else can do it for you. Ultimately, it is a choice. That would have made a good movie dialogue but is completely pointless when you try saying that to the victims. What are you trying to imply by me unwilling to do it ? What are you referring to ? Since this is totally tangential to QM's thread, what are you talking about ? Each of these case is different enough that the only rule you can carry over from one to the next is: everyones better off if its worked out instead of letting it smoulder. You not only let it smolder, you've fanned it to flames. This is clearly evident from this thread. You espouse one thing and do another. Really ? And how did you conclude this ? You dont whack bin laden on the head and say dude, be enlightened. Dont harbor hatred of centuries past. That wont work. He already has it. He is a gone case. What is important is to realise that whether its unenlightened or not, such hatred exists and its better dealth with before it causes a disaster. Again, you fail to grasp what was said concerning things that are a present danger and those things that no longer present any threat. and you fail to grasp what could become a danger in future. . What is important is to realise that whether its unenlightened or not, such hatred exists and its better dealth with before it causes a disaster. Yes, and the hatred that exists that is the topic of this thread is in your heart. And the idiocy in your head. And there are plenty more convenient lines that can be thrown around here to only make this more surreal. What hatred in this thread are you talking about? Sept 11 ? animosity between nations ? You are mixing up 2 OT threads. As it is, i dont hate the QM. So far, you have been unwilling to deal with it in any manner other than fermentation of the hatred and justification for fermentation of the hatred. What are you talking about ? And I am not learning history at princeton. On the contrary, I avoid all current news which isnt of immediate significant impact to my day to day life. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it! - George Santayana. *immediate significant impact* has some meaning. One of the lessons of history is what happens when a people cannot let go of the past. It would be nice if you can impart this lesson to women who were used as sex slave by japanese during WWII and convince them to not ask for a japnese apology. The lesson is not to let go of it but how to handle it. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New to group - Looking for advice : )
I got both links fine :) unless the pics i got to see werent what they were supposed to be... On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 03:49:39PM -0400, Peifer, William [OCDUS] wrote: Len wrote: Gee, Bill, what did you do to those pictures? They aren't there any more. ;-) Bill Gates ate them, I suppose. ;-) Seriously, I've had trouble a couple other times posting links to Photocritique.net. Some people get a broken link when they click on them. You may need to go to the Photocritique.net home page, then search for a photographer (Julia Gerace in this case), then go to the list of posted shots. Don't remember the dates or titles for the two I linked in my note, but one was a shot of one of her daughters taking a picture with a PS camera at the zoo, and the other was a shot of her two daughters mixing up dough for Christmas cookies. Cute shots, both! Bill Peifer Rochester, NY - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
sigma xq 100mm macro
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1344692919 anyone have any experience with the above lens ? The 3rd party cult classics page seems to indicate this is T-mount and thats about it. What about its performance ? thanks, nitin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Can K1000 meter correctly with M42 lenses ?
I was using mostly SM lenses till a while back tho not on a k1000 but first a vivitar 4000s and then a ricoh xr-10. The results were always well exposed so it never occured to me that something was amiss (and i didnt have k-mount lenses to compare with anyways). I will try sometime tomorrow to check if i get any problems with the 2 ricoh bodies i now have (one has dof option, other doesnt). On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 07:55:56PM -0400, andre wrote: I changed the title of a previous message to better reach members willing to test their K1000 with M42 lenses. Andre Langevin Hi Frank. Now that you have that MX,have you tried any of your M42's on it.I'm having a meter problem when i set mine on a K1000 and i was wondering if you were having success or not. Dave What is the meter problem you are having ? Your camera meters only like if it was at full aperture ? A repairman once told me some K-mount bodies would not read properly stopped-down (with the K-adaptor). Maybe the K1000 was one of them. As the K1000 doesn't have the depth-of-field preview option, maybe it is not configured internally to do this. Do others have the same problem ? Andre Langevin -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The Queen Mum
The whole world might not agree. She was the colonial ruler of a lot of places which werent thrilled with the british rule :) On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 01:05:43PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Queen Mum, May she rest in peace. There goes one of the true heroes of the 20th Century. She stood tall when her people needed her most. As England stood alone against the German bombs she rallied her people by word and example. Great Britain, alas the whole world, owes a debt, to her and Churchill. The civilized world owes a debt to our greatest ally, England. G-d save the Queen Mum. May she rest in peace. Burt Yust NYC USA - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Very OT: FS: Nikon F5 + related stuff
In the off chance that anyone here is interested, I have some nikon stuff to offload. Not to pollute this list further, ask me directly if interested for details :) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: The Queen Mum
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 02:12:21PM -0700, James Adams wrote: She didn't have a lot of choice in the matter, yes she married a Prince who was next in line to be King. Prior to King Edward's abdication, she had probably given little or no thought to becoming Queen Consort, or to taking on any of the titles that went with the job. Don't forget that after the English Civil War, it was Parliament that took on the role of governing the Colonies/Dominions. The Queens and Kings of the 20th/21st centuries are little more than a figureheads. Then she doesnt deserve the laurels either :) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New to group - Looking for advice : )
Unless there is some feature you think the zx-m lacks and you really need, i would say go for lenses. Find out what focal length lenses you need (read on web. lots of info), and read up on those lenses (or ask the folks here who have experience with them). On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 06:46:49PM -0400, J. Gerace wrote: Hi All, This is my first message here and I've never seen this format before - Wow... I have been studying photography for a little over a year (mainly, just reading a lot and shooting a lot). I have a ZX-M. I bought it simply because it was the most basic camera with no bells and whistles and I figured that it would be the best to learn on. Here is my dilemma. I would like to pursue portraiture more seriously in the future (kind of starting now) and I'm torn on how to upgrade. Do I 1) go for a better body - MZ-S? or PZ-1P 2) go for better lenses (in which case recommendations would be greatly appreciated) 3) Keep saving and eventually go to either medium format or digital. Budget is an issue - so I can't do all at once. Help? Thanks for any replies, Julia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The Queen Mum
Right and churchill (and many before him) was just the PM and the first colonizers were just businessmen and explorers, the british personnel in colonies were just poor sobs seeking employment far away from mother england. Nobody had anything todo with colonization and the aboriginals and red indians just happened to (almost) vanish. The riches of the colonies spontaneously moved to england on its own. On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 05:56:59PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: The Queen Mum wasn't the ruler of anything and had nothing to do with colonization. She was the wife of the King. And she was a heroic and charming lady. Paul Nitin Garg wrote: The whole world might not agree. She was the colonial ruler of a lot of places which werent thrilled with the british rule :) On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 01:05:43PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Queen Mum, May she rest in peace. There goes one of the true heroes of the 20th Century. She stood tall when her people needed her most. As England stood alone against the German bombs she rallied her people by word and example. Great Britain, alas the whole world, owes a debt, to her and Churchill. The civilized world owes a debt to our greatest ally, England. G-d save the Queen Mum. May she rest in peace. Burt Yust NYC USA - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The Queen Mum
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 04:39:59PM -0700, Bill D. Casselberry wrote: Nitin wrote: Right, and Churchill ... snip ... riches of the colonies spontaneously moved to england on its own. C'mon. Let's please not get into dredging up accusations regarding things of the past - we are all where we are today (be that what it might be) due to the accumulated bits of history - the good, the bad the ugly combined. Doesnt always work. Did the US govt say that to sept 11 and move on ? All I am saying is, not the whole world thinks of the queen mum as heroic or charming or whatever. There are people to whom she was (and justifiably so to themselves) the symbol of their continuing misery. To them it doesnt matter if she was charming and a well mannered polite person. For them her civilized behaviour only makes her uglier and disgusting in what she silently supported. So while many may rightly feel loss at her death, there are others in the world who are, again rightly, not at all unhappy about her death. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Spotmatics and screw mount lenses
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 08:47:22PM -0400, TM wrote: Frank, Thanks for the advice. I'll look into another Spotmatic body, maybe a II so I have the hotshoe. I'm really, really slow w/ changing screwmount lenses- paranoid about cross-threading and it seems really slow. Bayonet mount lenses are so simple- line up the dots, turn 1/4 and click, ready to go. Its very very difficult to cross thread a sm lens. I was slow too but I got real quick at it. Simple put on cam mount and spin it around quickly. It is simpler than lining up dots. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The Queen Mum
Right, she just continued to let the blood being sucked out of holes made by her ancestors. Innocent little girl. On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 10:07:53PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: No, you're wrong again. The explorers, merchants and rulers all had a lot to do with colonization. The Queen Mum did not. Go back to school boy. And take a cold shower. Paul Nitin Garg wrote: Right and churchill (and many before him) was just the PM and the first colonizers were just businessmen and explorers, the british personnel in colonies were just poor sobs seeking employment far away from mother england. Nobody had anything todo with colonization and the aboriginals and red indians just happened to (almost) vanish. The riches of the colonies spontaneously moved to england on its own. On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 05:56:59PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: The Queen Mum wasn't the ruler of anything and had nothing to do with colonization. She was the wife of the King. And she was a heroic and charming lady. Paul Nitin Garg wrote: The whole world might not agree. She was the colonial ruler of a lot of places which werent thrilled with the british rule :) On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 01:05:43PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Queen Mum, May she rest in peace. There goes one of the true heroes of the 20th Century. She stood tall when her people needed her most. As England stood alone against the German bombs she rallied her people by word and example. Great Britain, alas the whole world, owes a debt, to her and Churchill. The civilized world owes a debt to our greatest ally, England. G-d save the Queen Mum. May she rest in peace. Burt Yust NYC USA - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The Queen Mum
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 10:23:44PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: Much of the United States was once part of the British Empire, ditto Australia and Canada. I don't think any of us feel that our years as subjects of the crown deprived us in any way. Do red indians (native americans as they are now called) share the same opinion ? and australian aborignals ? I think the same is true of many other former colonies, although a few of them may not be mature enough to realize it. Nor are some of their peoples. This is probably a classic sign of a abuser who thinks the abused actually needs it and he/she is doing them a favor. I wonder if surviving families of those who died in the jalianwala bagh massacre would like to goto Dyer's grave and say thank you for saving us to him (yeah i know this didnt happen in mum's time but equivalent pain happened in all reigns). - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The Queen Mum
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 10:14:35PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: Nitin Garg wrote: On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 04:39:59PM -0700, Bill D. Casselberry wrote: Nitin wrote: Doesnt always work. Did the US govt say that to sept 11 and move on ? That has nothing to do with the death of a lady who was incidental to world politics. You are not thinking very clearly, Nitin. It has if u bother to stop and think about what it was said in response to. You dont always let go of something which happens saying oh, its becuase of a heap of history. No one thinks bin laden was a victim and pushed into terrorism (well maybe his supporters do). You hold him RESPONSIBLE for what he did. You dont say well so and so things happened in his life which made him do so but otherwise he is good man. So you cant say hey she just happened to become queen and her ancestors did all the colonization. She continued it and by that endorsed it. Even though one is not responsible for what was done in past but one can become a party to it depending upon how you choose to react to it. Some do remember what your predecessors did and DO hold you responsible (you can say its shouldnt be so, but if it is, it is). Sept 11 wouldnt have happened if no one was like that. No one is going to land a plane in buckingham palace but some do hold its present and past inhabitants responsible for a lot (even if it was done passively). So while many may rightly feel loss at her death, there are others in the world who are, again rightly, not at all unhappy about her death. Only a mindless few. Even if they indeed are few and are mindless, they exist and exist in this world. Which is what i said to begin with. Not everyone is sad to see her die. Also this is a dangerous classification to make. For eg, I KNOW a fair fraction of indians dont like british in general (and british authorities in particular). With a population of over a billion, that is NOT FEW (Its more than the population of US itself if I extrapolate from fractions I know). Second, calling them mindless is only refusing to try to see WHY they might have such an opinion. And that is only inviting disasters in future (like sept 11 was). One may wipe out taliban once but what about 20yrs down the line when their children grow up remembering the bombs that destroyed their lives ? Its likely they will grow up hating a lot of things (of course its possible to do something to prevent/control this). - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The Queen Mum
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 10:04:39PM -0400, Robert Woerner wrote: I'd rather be ruled by the British Monarchy than by those who believe as you seem to. Give it a rest already. Sheesh! :-) And what is it that i seem to believe ? Britain and the Allies saved the world from the likes of Hitler. And that absolves them of everything ? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The Queen Mum
Thats a pointless cliche which doesnt change anything about the innocent little girl. On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:47:48PM -0500, Ken Archer wrote: Who was it that once said something to the effect that it's not what youth know, but rather that what they know just ain't so? On Tuesday 09 April 2002 09:26 pm, Nitin Garg wrote: Right, she just continued to let the blood being sucked out of holes made by her ancestors. Innocent little girl. -- Kenneth Archer, San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The Queen Mum
Of course she made significant impact. Just that it was negative for some. My memorial, impact or remembrance is irrelevant. A single insignificant person never counts but a collection does. I am as small a fart (or maybe even smaller) than you are but lots of small farts together can be awfully stinking :) On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 08:33:10PM -0700, James Adams wrote: I don't know what was arrogant about the original message, but I find the mindless comments from Nitin offensive. Bob's message was a genuine and heart felt comment on someone whom he felt significant enough to share a personal farewell. Whether you liked her Nitin is irrelevant, you are insignificant, you know nothing about my country, you know nothing about her or her family. She made a significant impact on the lives of more people than you ever will. She was dear to many peoples around the world, and she is being given the honour and respect she deserves. She won't be forgotten, but what will your memorial be? Very little I suspect, you will be go like an insignificant fart in the wind. I was not going to say this, but were you born an asshole, or did you have to take a course. James Unsubscribing. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The Queen Mum
And yes, i dont know anything about your country, about her personal life or her family. That doenst change what happened to some colonial regions and the opinion of some people there. Similarly, you know nothing about my country and what people there went through. If you think stating that not everyone considered her dear is being an asshole then i rather be one :) On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 08:33:10PM -0700, James Adams wrote: I don't know what was arrogant about the original message, but I find the mindless comments from Nitin offensive. Bob's message was a genuine and heart felt comment on someone whom he felt significant enough to share a personal farewell. Whether you liked her Nitin is irrelevant, you are insignificant, you know nothing about my country, you know nothing about her or her family. She made a significant impact on the lives of more people than you ever will. She was dear to many peoples around the world, and she is being given the honour and respect she deserves. She won't be forgotten, but what will your memorial be? Very little I suspect, you will be go like an insignificant fart in the wind. I was not going to say this, but were you born an asshole, or did you have to take a course. James Unsubscribing. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: End this RE: Queen Mum
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 10:59:50PM -0500, Treena Harp wrote: Dude, you are SO wrong -- film sucks! Digital is the wave of the future, man ... :) that it is. But i think the future is too far off for now. - Original Message - From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 9:50 PM Subject: Re: End this RE: Queen Mum Digital sucks. ;) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The Queen Mum
And there was nothing arrogant about the original message. Nor do I think its mindless to (politely) add on a mailing list that not everyone shares the sentiment. ok, ok, no more on this :) On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 08:33:10PM -0700, James Adams wrote: I don't know what was arrogant about the original message, but I find the mindless comments from Nitin offensive. Bob's message was a genuine and heart felt comment on someone whom he felt significant enough to share a personal farewell. Whether you liked her Nitin is irrelevant, you are insignificant, you know nothing about my country, you know nothing about her or her family. She made a significant impact on the lives of more people than you ever will. She was dear to many peoples around the world, and she is being given the honour and respect she deserves. She won't be forgotten, but what will your memorial be? Very little I suspect, you will be go like an insignificant fart in the wind. I was not going to say this, but were you born an asshole, or did you have to take a course. James Unsubscribing. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New lister and some questions (long- sorry)
I dont shoot fast moving objects much so my opinion might not work for you but i didnt find this inconvenient. Often i could just focus stopped down directly and in case it was too dark, open a few stops, focus and quicky stop down again. But if you are used to using program mode then this would be inconvenient for you :) If you are careful you can get good buys on ebay. Photo.net and rec.photo.marketplace and this list itself are other sources to look at. In case you are interested, i am getting rid of some SM lenses myself. cheers, nitin On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 10:53:26PM -0400, TM wrote: So if I use screwmount lenses on a K-mount body, I'll have to focus w/ the aperture open, then meter stopped down? That's a lot of work, maybe not too bad for shooting non-moving subjects or when shooting at the same spot and focus for a time. I gotta think about that- I might have to buy some screwmount bodies, then. Anyone have recommendations for a good source for this stuff? I hesitate to use ebay because I'm concerned about getting a good camera. Taka - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 135-600mm lens on 3011BN+3030 head setup
look before you leap principle :) Better to ask in case its a strict nono rather than see things go in front of you and think frantically about stopping it Or in case there is something to ensure or watch out for (dont want the thing collapsing when i am not looking to catch it) etc. On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 10:18:39PM -0500, Chris Brogden wrote: On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Nitin Garg wrote: I have a bogen 3011N with 3030 head and it serves me well with the small itty-bitty lenses I have. Its specs say supports 11.20 lbs. But I am receiving a SMC K 135-600mm lens soon and the lens itself weighs 4070 g (~9 lbs -- source kmp page). With the cam body about 1 lbs, thats making it really close to the max weight. Should i try using this tripod or get a beefier one ? Since you're getting the lens, and already have the pod/head combo, why not try it for yourself and see if you can detect any movement? chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: RE: Leaf Shutters
the book Photographic Materials and Processes by Leslie Stroebel, John Compton, Ira Current, and Richard Zakia has an explaination of why this happens and has a table of corrections to use. On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 09:23:03PM -0600, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: RE: Leaf Shutters According to the Kodak Professional Photoguide, as well as numerous sources on the 'net, including mailing lists that feature cameras with leaf shutters, high shutter speeds used in conjunction with smaller apertures produce slower effective shutter speeds, producing more exposure than the indicated shutter speed/f-stop combination. This is caused, according to Kodak, by the geometry of the lens-shutter-diaphragm assembly combined with inertia of moving parts, and is not a manufacturing defect. I have heard this as well. I did test my 90mm leaf lens shutter against the camera shutter. I don't recall seing any glaring differences. This might mean my 6x7 body has a slow shutter. This would be no surprise, given the size of the thing. I don't recall ever using a view camera shutter faster than about 1/30th of a second. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 135-600mm lens on 3011BN+3030 head setup
Do you have a recommendation on a good monopod to use it with ? As it is I am looking to buy one since I cant carry around a tripod all the time :) On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:41:05PM -0400, J. C. O'Connell wrote: Subject: Re: 135-600mm lens on 3011BN+3030 head setup On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Nitin Garg wrote: I have a bogen 3011N with 3030 head and it serves me well with the small itty-bitty lenses I have. Its specs say supports 11.20 lbs. But I am receiving a SMC K 135-600mm lens soon and the lens itself weighs 4070 g (~9 lbs -- source kmp page). With the cam body about 1 lbs, thats making it really close to the max weight. Should i try using this tripod or get a beefier one ? Since you're getting the lens, and already have the pod/head combo, why not try it for yourself and see if you can detect any movement? chris Right, and the movement may be the head snapping and the lens plunging to earth! I warn you. I wouldnt mount that lens on anything but the biggest of tripods/heads... JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New lister and some questions (long- sorry)
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 10:52:39PM -0500, Ken Archer wrote: Check with KEH or BH for retail prices and then set your limit. This part is very important! I have seen things going for more than retail price of new or dealer's price of used equipment in better condition. cheers, nitin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
