Re: List Problems
On 2015-06-16 22:48 , David Mann wrote: Oh yes, of course. Many years ago I used a mail client that understood those headers, but Apple Mail doesn’t so I’d forgotten they exist. Thanks for the reminder. Apple Mail doesn't automate mailing list subs/unsubs, but it can use the List-id header in filters (rules); by default the filter setup options don't include List-id, but it is easy to add the header (Edit Header List… in the popup for defining conditions for a rule), and it is the best header to use for defining filters for mailing lists (in general, not just PDML) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: List Problems
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015, at 07:37 AM, steve harley wrote: On 2015-06-15 18:49 , Brian Walters wrote: Is anyone else experiencing this? For the past week or so I'm not seeing messages from some of you - the only way I know about some postings is when I see replies to posts where I haven't see the originals. FWIW i'm seeing no such problems via Fastmail; since i have threading turned on in Thunderbird, i would see this easily if it were occurring (replies are normally nested, so an un-nested message with Re: in the subject tips me off to missing original messages) I've reactivated my old Fastmail account and that seems to be working well - I prefer to use the web-based interface for PDML messages. By coincidence, the other mail service that was giving me grief suddenly came good, although those missing posts remain missing. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- http://www.fastmail.com - The professional email service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: List Problems
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015, at 01:06 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Not yet. Well something is certainly eating up the bandwidth. The list archives became inaccessible on the 12th of this month (as confirmed by Igor) and something similar has been happening for the past 6 months or so, but not quite so early in the month. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:37 AM, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote: On 6/15/2015 10:49 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting John sesso...@earthlink.net: I've occasionally been seeing something similar; I see threads of some replies before I see the original post. Then I'll see the original post with additional replies threaded off of it. I could live with that but my problem is that the original posts never show up (or, at least they haven't for the last couple of weeks). I wonder if SPAMMERS might be eating up all the PDML server's bandwidth? This morning I got a strange email from someone I don't know at infoparrotDOTcom referencing the PDML pipermail archive at /2014-June/378524.html. He wants me to link to his Lightroom tutorials. The link takes me to a 509 Bandwith Limit Exceeded message from PDML's pipermail. Did anyone else get SPAM that contains a link to the PDML archive? -- http://www.fastmail.com - A fast, anti-spam email service. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: List Problems
On 2015-06-15 18:49 , Brian Walters wrote: Is anyone else experiencing this? For the past week or so I'm not seeing messages from some of you - the only way I know about some postings is when I see replies to posts where I haven't see the originals. FWIW i'm seeing no such problems via Fastmail; since i have threading turned on in Thunderbird, i would see this easily if it were occurring (replies are normally nested, so an un-nested message with Re: in the subject tips me off to missing original messages) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: List Problems
On 6/15/2015 10:49 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting John sesso...@earthlink.net: I've occasionally been seeing something similar; I see threads of some replies before I see the original post. Then I'll see the original post with additional replies threaded off of it. I could live with that but my problem is that the original posts never show up (or, at least they haven't for the last couple of weeks). I wonder if SPAMMERS might be eating up all the PDML server's bandwidth? This morning I got a strange email from someone I don't know at infoparrotDOTcom referencing the PDML pipermail archive at /2014-June/378524.html. He wants me to link to his Lightroom tutorials. The link takes me to a 509 Bandwith Limit Exceeded message from PDML's pipermail. Did anyone else get SPAM that contains a link to the PDML archive? -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: List Problems
Not yet. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:37 AM, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote: On 6/15/2015 10:49 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting John sesso...@earthlink.net: I've occasionally been seeing something similar; I see threads of some replies before I see the original post. Then I'll see the original post with additional replies threaded off of it. I could live with that but my problem is that the original posts never show up (or, at least they haven't for the last couple of weeks). I wonder if SPAMMERS might be eating up all the PDML server's bandwidth? This morning I got a strange email from someone I don't know at infoparrotDOTcom referencing the PDML pipermail archive at /2014-June/378524.html. He wants me to link to his Lightroom tutorials. The link takes me to a 509 Bandwith Limit Exceeded message from PDML's pipermail. Did anyone else get SPAM that contains a link to the PDML archive? -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: List Problems
Not Here. -Original Message- From: John sesso...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: List Problems On 6/15/2015 10:49 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting John sesso...@earthlink.net: I've occasionally been seeing something similar; I see threads of some replies before I see the original post. Then I'll see the original post with additional replies threaded off of it. I could live with that but my problem is that the original posts never show up (or, at least they haven't for the last couple of weeks). I wonder if SPAMMERS might be eating up all the PDML server's bandwidth? This morning I got a strange email from someone I don't know at infoparrotDOTcom referencing the PDML pipermail archive at /2014-June/378524.html. He wants me to link to his Lightroom tutorials. The link takes me to a 509 Bandwith Limit Exceeded message from PDML's pipermail. Did anyone else get SPAM that contains a link to the PDML archive? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: List Problems
Dave, Besides the information in the footer of the message, there is information in the headers of the message. The headers are typically not shown by the mail program (or web-mail interface), but you can see them by choosing an option View all headers (or whatever it is, depending on the tool). Here how it looks in the raw: List-Id: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml.pdml.net List-Unsubscribe: http://pdml.net/mailman/options/pdml_pdml.net, mailto:pdml-requ...@pdml.net?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net/ List-Post: mailto:pdml@pdml.net List-Help: mailto:pdml-requ...@pdml.net?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net, mailto:pdml-requ...@pdml.net?subject=subscribe Some mail programs are smart enough to interpret those headers and tell you that the message contains list management information. I am glad that information was helpful. Igor David Mann Mon, 15 Jun 2015 23:20:28 -0700 wrote: On Jun 16, 2015, at 5:09 pm, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: Any e-mail you get from PDML contains list management information, how to subscribe/unsubscribe. All I see at the bottom of messages is a link to the web-based subscription interface. I might store your message for future reference as I had to wait a week or so after my trip to Oz before I could access the web page. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: List Problems
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015, at 01:51 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Dave, Besides the information in the footer of the message, there is information in the headers of the message. The headers are typically not shown by the mail program (or web-mail interface), but you can see them by choosing an option View all headers (or whatever it is, depending on the tool). Here how it looks in the raw: List-Id: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml.pdml.net List-Unsubscribe: http://pdml.net/mailman/options/pdml_pdml.net, mailto:pdml-requ...@pdml.net?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net/ List-Post: mailto:pdml@pdml.net List-Help: mailto:pdml-requ...@pdml.net?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net, mailto:pdml-requ...@pdml.net?subject=subscribe Some mail programs are smart enough to interpret those headers and tell you that the message contains list management information. I am glad that information was helpful. Well, I resubscribed under this Fastmail account and, of course, the other account that was causing problems suddenly started working properly again... Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- http://www.fastmail.com - The way an email service should be -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: List Problems
On Jun 17, 2015, at 3:51 am, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: Dave, Besides the information in the footer of the message, there is information in the headers of the message. The headers are typically not shown by the mail program (or web-mail interface), but you can see them by choosing an option View all headers (or whatever it is, depending on the tool). Oh yes, of course. Many years ago I used a mail client that understood those headers, but Apple Mail doesn’t so I’d forgotten they exist. Thanks for the reminder. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: List Problems
On Jun 16, 2015, at 5:09 pm, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: Any e-mail you get from PDML contains list management information, how to subscribe/unsubscribe. All I see at the bottom of messages is a link to the web-based subscription interface. I might store your message for future reference as I had to wait a week or so after my trip to Oz before I could access the web page. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: List Problems
Brian, As far as I know, I'm seeing everything. Have you checked one of the archives to see what proportion of the messages you're missing? Maybe Doug is late paying the bill... Rick On Jun 15, 2015, at 8:49 PM, Brian Walters wrote: 'morning all Is anyone else experiencing this? For the past week or so I'm not seeing messages from some of you - the only way I know about some postings is when I see replies to posts where I haven't see the originals. Perusing the archives, it seems I'm not seeing anything from Dan, Frank, Tom, Darren, Eric, Matt, Dave B, Rick and Sandy. There may be others. I'd resubscribe under a different email address to see if that makes a difference but the list seems to have run out of bandwidth early this month. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: List Problems
On 6/15/2015 8:49 PM, Brian Walters wrote: 'morning all Is anyone else experiencing this? For the past week or so I'm not seeing messages from some of you - the only way I know about some postings is when I see replies to posts where I haven't see the originals. Perusing the archives, it seems I'm not seeing anything from Dan, Frank, Tom, Darren, Eric, Matt, Dave B, Rick and Sandy. There may be others. I'd resubscribe under a different email address to see if that makes a difference but the list seems to have run out of bandwidth early this month. I've occasionally been seeing something similar; I see threads of some replies before I see the original post. Then I'll see the original post with additional replies threaded off of it. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: List Problems
Brian, A few days ago (June 9 or 10), I've seen that the mail-archive was stack for a few hours, as it was not getting any new messages, while I was getting (digests) those just fine. Then either it cleared up by itself or Doug used a proverbial plunger. Since that I haven't noticed much of a problem. In the recent past (1-2 months ago), I've see that a few original thread messages didn't make it to that same archive, while the followups did. I don't know why. (I have my suspicions that it could've been related to the long URLs inside those messages that were not in those replies that went through to the archive. I wonder if the mail-archive.com's own anti-spam filters may have been triggered by those URLs.) Just in case: you don't have to use the web-based interface to subscribe/unsubscribe. Any e-mail you get from PDML contains list management information, how to subscribe/unsubscribe. In short: To subscribe a particular account, send from it an e-mail to the address: pdml-requ...@pdml.net With the Subject: subscribe To unsubscribe, use the Subject: unsubscribes. Use Subject:help to get more information about the commands. Follow the instructions you get in the response from the list-management server. Hope that helps, Igor Brian Walters Mon, 15 Jun 2015 19:48:51 -0700 wrote: Quoting Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com: Did you try your spam or junk folder? Yep - nothing there. I don't seem to be having any problems on the PDML, but on another list to which I belong, gmail is sending posts from certain senders to my Spam folder, and it is happening to others there as well. Like Rick, I got your CC to me but your reply hasn't come though on the list mail. It seems odd (to me, anyway). You're obviously not being blocked when you send to me directly so why would your address be blocked when sent via the list? I hope it settles down otherwise I'll try to resubscribe under a different address when the List bandwidth resets at the end of the month. Cheers Brian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
List Problems
'morning all Is anyone else experiencing this? For the past week or so I'm not seeing messages from some of you - the only way I know about some postings is when I see replies to posts where I haven't see the originals. Perusing the archives, it seems I'm not seeing anything from Dan, Frank, Tom, Darren, Eric, Matt, Dave B, Rick and Sandy. There may be others. I'd resubscribe under a different email address to see if that makes a difference but the list seems to have run out of bandwidth early this month. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: List Problems
Quoting Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com: Did you try your spam or junk folder? Yep - nothing there. I don't seem to be having any problems on the PDML, but on another list to which I belong, gmail is sending posts from certain senders to my Spam folder, and it is happening to others there as well. Like Rick, I got your CC to me but your reply hasn't come though on the list mail. It seems odd (to me, anyway). You're obviously not being blocked when you send to me directly so why would your address be blocked when sent via the list? I hope it settles down otherwise I'll try to resubscribe under a different address when the List bandwidth resets at the end of the month. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:49 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: 'morning all Is anyone else experiencing this? For the past week or so I'm not seeing messages from some of you - the only way I know about some postings is when I see replies to posts where I haven't see the originals. Perusing the archives, it seems I'm not seeing anything from Dan, Frank, Tom, Darren, Eric, Matt, Dave B, Rick and Sandy. There may be others. I'd resubscribe under a different email address to see if that makes a difference but the list seems to have run out of bandwidth early this month. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: List Problems
Quoting Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com: Brian, As far as I know, I'm seeing everything. Have you checked one of the archives to see what proportion of the messages you're missing? Maybe Doug is late paying the bill... Rick Thanks for CC'ing that to me because it hasn't come though on the list. The normal list archives aren't accessible because of the list bandwidth being exceeded but the secondary archives at the Mail-Archive show that I'm not seeing any posts from the people I mentioned and I can probably add PJ, Jack and Bruce. I'd say I'm not seeing about 60% of the posts. Cheers Brian ( On Jun 15, 2015, at 8:49 PM, Brian Walters wrote: 'morning all Is anyone else experiencing this? For the past week or so I'm not seeing messages from some of you - the only way I know about some postings is when I see replies to posts where I haven't see the originals. Perusing the archives, it seems I'm not seeing anything from Dan, Frank, Tom, Darren, Eric, Matt, Dave B, Rick and Sandy. There may be others. I'd resubscribe under a different email address to see if that makes a difference but the list seems to have run out of bandwidth early this month. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: List Problems
Did you try your spam or junk folder? I don't seem to be having any problems on the PDML, but on another list to which I belong, gmail is sending posts from certain senders to my Spam folder, and it is happening to others there as well. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:49 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: 'morning all Is anyone else experiencing this? For the past week or so I'm not seeing messages from some of you - the only way I know about some postings is when I see replies to posts where I haven't see the originals. Perusing the archives, it seems I'm not seeing anything from Dan, Frank, Tom, Darren, Eric, Matt, Dave B, Rick and Sandy. There may be others. I'd resubscribe under a different email address to see if that makes a difference but the list seems to have run out of bandwidth early this month. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: List Problems
Quoting John sesso...@earthlink.net: I've occasionally been seeing something similar; I see threads of some replies before I see the original post. Then I'll see the original post with additional replies threaded off of it. I could live with that but my problem is that the original posts never show up (or, at least they haven't for the last couple of weeks). -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
List problems?
I can not reach the pdml list from my primary email account (to...@repiuk.nl). Unsubscribed and subscribed again without success. I guess I was talking to myself for days/weeks/months. Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: List problems?
I can not reach the pdml list from my primary email account (to...@repiuk.nl). Unsubscribed and subscribed again without success. I guess I was talking to myself for days/weeks/months. Toine Did you get into any flame wars? B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: List problems?
On 11-09-17 5:19 AM, Toine wrote: I can not reach the pdml list from my primary email account (to...@repiuk.nl). Unsubscribed and subscribed again without success. I guess I was talking to myself for days/weeks/months. Toine FYI, this is the last message that I see from you that I received via the list: References:calosnq+wv4lqi5mllw67l98eejazvt64o7jjbh8y2bva3kc...@mail.gmail.com Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:30:19 +0200 Message-ID:CALjS1kGWKVj7p714gJX3Cq90WVKoAgH=_Zm7-WR-x=xfrqq...@mail.gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO - Not Happy with your Phone? From: Toineto...@repiuk.nl To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: List problems?
It's working again from another mail account. I don't talk that much on the list, the lost words must be minimal. Toine On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On 11-09-17 5:19 AM, Toine wrote: I can not reach the pdml list from my primary email account (to...@repiuk.nl). Unsubscribed and subscribed again without success. I guess I was talking to myself for days/weeks/months. Toine FYI, this is the last message that I see from you that I received via the list: References:calosnq+wv4lqi5mllw67l98eejazvt64o7jjbh8y2bva3kc...@mail.gmail.com Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:30:19 +0200 Message-ID:CALjS1kGWKVj7p714gJX3Cq90WVKoAgH=_Zm7-WR-x=xfrqq...@mail.gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO - Not Happy with your Phone? From: Toineto...@repiuk.nl To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: List problems?
On 2011-09-17 15:35, Toine wrote: It's working again from another mail account. I don't talk that much on the list, the lost words must be minimal. I had a similar problem back in the spring. Unsubscribed and resubscribed but that didn't fix it. Subscribed from a different email account, and suddenly both started working! I have no idea what went wrong. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: list problems
2009/11/23 eactiv...@aol.com: I don't have gmail, but I suspect there is an option you can check to see your own emails. Marnie Any posts you make to open a new thread are hidden from the Gmail inbox until someone else replies. To make them visible immediately you can select All Mail rather than Inbox on the folder list (they're not really folders but that's what they'd be if you were using an email client rather than webmail) . regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: list problems
Further, because your own posts have already been displayed to you, they appear as read mail and won't be boldface. And unlike new mail from other senders, the thread won't get promoted to the top of the list. It's a good idea to star your own posts so they'll stand out in the list and be easier to track. regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) 2009/11/24 Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com: 2009/11/23 eactiv...@aol.com: I don't have gmail, but I suspect there is an option you can check to see your own emails. Marnie Any posts you make to open a new thread are hidden from the Gmail inbox until someone else replies. To make them visible immediately you can select All Mail rather than Inbox on the folder list (they're not really folders but that's what they'd be if you were using an email client rather than webmail) . regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: list problems
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Gonz rgonzoma...@gmail.com wrote: I posted to the list at 9:30 am (cst usa). Have not seen it. I see other postings. Anybody else having problems? My feet hurt, my back aches, i'm out of beer. Yes i'm having problems.:-) Dave -gonz -- -- Reduce your Government Footprint -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2009/11/24 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com: My feet hurt, my back aches, i'm out of beer. go have a sleeman's or a kokanee for me... I can't get them here... canada actually has some beers above 'like sex in a canoe' grade worth a glance beyond molson and labatt =) cheers ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 6:24 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/11/24 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com: My feet hurt, my back aches, i'm out of beer. go have a sleeman's or a kokanee for me... I can't get them here... canada actually has some beers above 'like sex in a canoe' grade worth a glance beyond molson and labatt =) cheers ecke I know that.:-) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:24:05AM +0100, eckinator scripsit: 2009/11/24 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com: My feet hurt, my back aches, i'm out of beer. go have a sleeman's or a kokanee for me... I can't get them here... canada actually has some beers above 'like sex in a canoe' grade worth a glance beyond molson and labatt =) Both are rather in the large canoe/sailing dinghy category, which is admittedly up, somewhat, from the stain on the national honour/leaky canoe status of the Molbatts product. I was rather partial to Fin du Monde and Iron Duke back when I could drink beer; from Unibrew and the Wellington County Brewery, respectively. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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In a message dated 11/23/2009 3:17:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, pentko...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Gonz rgonzoma...@gmail.com wrote: I posted to the list at 9:30 am (cst usa). Have not seen it. I see other postings. Anybody else having problems? == I think the tone of the list is pretty low sometimes. But whatthefuck I've gotten used to it. Marnie - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I posted to the list at 9:30 am (cst usa). Have not seen it. I see other postings. Anybody else having problems? -gonz -- -- Reduce your Government Footprint -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I saw this post on the list. at least it got through. On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Gonz rgonzoma...@gmail.com wrote: I posted to the list at 9:30 am (cst usa). Have not seen it. I see other postings. Anybody else having problems? -gonz -- -- Reduce your Government Footprint -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Received a post at 7:31 PST titled: OT: Mark Roberts in Wired. That must be it.(?) Jack --- On Sun, 11/22/09, Gonz rgonzoma...@gmail.com wrote: From: Gonz rgonzoma...@gmail.com Subject: list problems To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 9:01 AM I posted to the list at 9:30 am (cst usa). Have not seen it. I see other postings. Anybody else having problems? -gonz -- -- Reduce your Government Footprint -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Yup. I guess that you cant see your own posts with gmail until someone replies. I remember it happening once before. -gonz On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Received a post at 7:31 PST titled: OT: Mark Roberts in Wired. That must be it.(?) Jack --- On Sun, 11/22/09, Gonz rgonzoma...@gmail.com wrote: From: Gonz rgonzoma...@gmail.com Subject: list problems To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 9:01 AM I posted to the list at 9:30 am (cst usa). Have not seen it. I see other postings. Anybody else having problems? -gonz -- -- Reduce your Government Footprint -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -- Reduce your Government Footprint -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2009/11/22 Gonz rgonzoma...@gmail.com: Yup. I guess that you cant see your own posts with gmail until someone replies. I remember it happening once before. correct - I get that all the time cheers ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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In a message dated 11/22/2009 9:44:16 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, rgonzoma...@gmail.com writes: Yup. I guess that you cant see your own posts with gmail until someone replies. I remember it happening once before. -gonz = I don't have gmail, but I suspect there is an option you can check to see your own emails. Marnie - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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At least you get something back. My last five messages to the list went into a black hole: no response and no show on the list. I'm not sure what I did, but . Otis Wright. Paul Stenquist wrote: This is the header that has arrived on the list with my recent messages. More than eight hours after I sent it. I've checked, and my mail program is in text mode. Don't know what's going on here. Paul To: pdml@pdml.net Reply-To: pdml@pdml.net Return-Path: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Received: from imta18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (LHLO IMTA18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net) (76.96.62.94) by sz0125.ev.mail.comcast.net with LMTP; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:52:49 + (UTC) Received: from server1.emwd.com ([74.52.21.50]) by IMTA18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8rso1b00q14q2u20JrsokK; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:52:49 + Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=server1.emwd.com) by server1.emwd.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from pdml-boun...@pdml.net) id 1LRtUZ-0006xX-AX; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:20:59 -0500 Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.64]) by server1.emwd.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from pnstenqu...@comcast.net) id 1LRtUW-0006xC-E0 for pdml@pdml.net; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:20:58 -0500 Received: from OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8jEB1b0050QkzPwA7jM1Qq; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:21:01 + Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([68.41.161.70]) by OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8jLy1b00m1XRxVg8NjM0kt; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:21:00 + X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=a7_V5Mws3qAA:10 a=6WeVvL+Zr/WSDKt3WrBSUw==:17 a=7PE10dTx:8 a=yvpqdvEU:8 a=FnVD762tDm1k_B1rFL4A:9 a=53n4BdLnmDYiLy1zwDSijiBe7zkA:4 a=zUBsD6tbDSsA:10 Domainkey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=pdml.net; h=Message-Id:From:To:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:X-Mailer:X-Spam-Status:X-Spam-Score:X-Spam-Bar:X-Spam-Flag:X-BeenThere:X-Mailman-Version:Precedence:Reply-To:List-Id:List-Unsubscribe:List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Sender:Errors-To; b=KsjZR7vSxcJJvSz7yx9ZmxNSvc/hhxfQzl6yqVNnlyoaGVBUThCfvP+5RklsuP7YzsDSK6wJhdfnxkSIsxet7gwiwDZsEGcdJv8YxCPjm2su5p96ZP/AKWarJBkDfN0x; Message-Id: bcc59e27-77bc-4c3c-8052-ce9346610...@comcast.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 X-Spam-Score: -24 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Beenthere: pdml@pdml.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11.cp3 Precedence: list List-Id: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml_pdml.net.pdml.net List-Unsubscribe: http://pdml.net/mailman/options/pdml_pdml.net, mailto:pdml-requ...@pdml.net?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net List-Post: mailto:pdml@pdml.net List-Help: mailto:pdml-requ...@pdml.net?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net, mailto:pdml-requ...@pdml.net?subject=subscribe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; Format=flowed Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Errors-To: pdml-boun...@pdml.net X-Antiabuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-Antiabuse: Primary Hostname - server1.emwd.com X-Antiabuse: Original Domain - comcast.net X-Antiabuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-Antiabuse: Sender Address Domain - pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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NOW IT WORKS Go figure Otis C. Wright, Jr. wrote: At least you get something back. My last five messages to the list went into a black hole: no response and no show on the list. I'm not sure what I did, but . Otis Wright. Paul Stenquist wrote: This is the header that has arrived on the list with my recent messages. More than eight hours after I sent it. I've checked, and my mail program is in text mode. Don't know what's going on here. Paul To: pdml@pdml.net Reply-To: pdml@pdml.net Return-Path: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Received: from imta18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (LHLO IMTA18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net) (76.96.62.94) by sz0125.ev.mail.comcast.net with LMTP; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:52:49 + (UTC) Received: from server1.emwd.com ([74.52.21.50]) by IMTA18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8rso1b00q14q2u20JrsokK; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:52:49 + Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=server1.emwd.com) by server1.emwd.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from pdml-boun...@pdml.net) id 1LRtUZ-0006xX-AX; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:20:59 -0500 Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.64]) by server1.emwd.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from pnstenqu...@comcast.net) id 1LRtUW-0006xC-E0 for pdml@pdml.net; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:20:58 -0500 Received: from OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8jEB1b0050QkzPwA7jM1Qq; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:21:01 + Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([68.41.161.70]) by OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8jLy1b00m1XRxVg8NjM0kt; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:21:00 + X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=a7_V5Mws3qAA:10 a=6WeVvL+Zr/WSDKt3WrBSUw==:17 a=7PE10dTx:8 a=yvpqdvEU:8 a=FnVD762tDm1k_B1rFL4A:9 a=53n4BdLnmDYiLy1zwDSijiBe7zkA:4 a=zUBsD6tbDSsA:10 Domainkey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=pdml.net; h=Message-Id:From:To:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:X-Mailer:X-Spam-Status:X-Spam-Score:X-Spam-Bar:X-Spam-Flag:X-BeenThere:X-Mailman-Version:Precedence:Reply-To:List-Id:List-Unsubscribe:List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Sender:Errors-To; b=KsjZR7vSxcJJvSz7yx9ZmxNSvc/hhxfQzl6yqVNnlyoaGVBUThCfvP+5RklsuP7YzsDSK6wJhdfnxkSIsxet7gwiwDZsEGcdJv8YxCPjm2su5p96ZP/AKWarJBkDfN0x; Message-Id: bcc59e27-77bc-4c3c-8052-ce9346610...@comcast.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 X-Spam-Score: -24 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Beenthere: pdml@pdml.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11.cp3 Precedence: list List-Id: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml_pdml.net.pdml.net List-Unsubscribe: http://pdml.net/mailman/options/pdml_pdml.net, mailto:pdml-requ...@pdml.net?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net List-Post: mailto:pdml@pdml.net List-Help: mailto:pdml-requ...@pdml.net?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net, mailto:pdml-requ...@pdml.net?subject=subscribe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; Format=flowed Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Errors-To: pdml-boun...@pdml.net X-Antiabuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-Antiabuse: Primary Hostname - server1.emwd.com X-Antiabuse: Original Domain - comcast.net X-Antiabuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-Antiabuse: Sender Address Domain - pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Spent five days trying to subscribe. My msgs would come back to me, but wouldn't show in the archives nor would appear to other list members. All the sudden, worked. LF Otis C. Wright, Jr. escreveu: NOW IT WORKS Go figure Otis C. Wright, Jr. wrote: At least you get something back. My last five messages to the list went into a black hole: no response and no show on the list. I'm not sure what I did, but . Otis Wright. Paul Stenquist wrote: This is the header that has arrived on the list with my recent messages. More than eight hours after I sent it. I've checked, and my mail program is in text mode. Don't know what's going on here. Paul To: pdml@pdml.net Reply-To: pdml@pdml.net Return-Path: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Received: from imta18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (LHLO IMTA18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net) (76.96.62.94) by sz0125.ev.mail.comcast.net with LMTP; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:52:49 + (UTC) Received: from server1.emwd.com ([74.52.21.50]) by IMTA18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8rso1b00q14q2u20JrsokK; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:52:49 + Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=server1.emwd.com) by server1.emwd.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from pdml-boun...@pdml.net) id 1LRtUZ-0006xX-AX; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:20:59 -0500 Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.64]) by server1.emwd.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from pnstenqu...@comcast.net) id 1LRtUW-0006xC-E0 for pdml@pdml.net; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:20:58 -0500 Received: from OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8jEB1b0050QkzPwA7jM1Qq; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:21:01 + Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([68.41.161.70]) by OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8jLy1b00m1XRxVg8NjM0kt; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:21:00 + X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=a7_V5Mws3qAA:10 a=6WeVvL+Zr/WSDKt3WrBSUw==:17 a=7PE10dTx:8 a=yvpqdvEU:8 a=FnVD762tDm1k_B1rFL4A:9 a=53n4BdLnmDYiLy1zwDSijiBe7zkA:4 a=zUBsD6tbDSsA:10 Domainkey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=pdml.net; h=Message-Id:From:To:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:X-Mailer:X-Spam-Status:X-Spam-Score:X-Spam-Bar:X-Spam-Flag:X-BeenThere:X-Mailman-Version:Precedence:Reply-To:List-Id:List-Unsubscribe:List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Sender:Errors-To; b=KsjZR7vSxcJJvSz7yx9ZmxNSvc/hhxfQzl6yqVNnlyoaGVBUThCfvP+5RklsuP7YzsDSK6wJhdfnxkSIsxet7gwiwDZsEGcdJv8YxCPjm2su5p96ZP/AKWarJBkDfN0x; Message-Id: bcc59e27-77bc-4c3c-8052-ce9346610...@comcast.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 X-Spam-Score: -24 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Beenthere: pdml@pdml.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11.cp3 Precedence: list List-Id: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml_pdml.net.pdml.net List-Unsubscribe: http://pdml.net/mailman/options/pdml_pdml.net, mailto:pdml-requ...@pdml.net?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net List-Post: mailto:pdml@pdml.net List-Help: mailto:pdml-requ...@pdml.net?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net, mailto:pdml-requ...@pdml.net?subject=subscribe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; Format=flowed Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Errors-To: pdml-boun...@pdml.net X-Antiabuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-Antiabuse: Primary Hostname - server1.emwd.com X-Antiabuse: Original Domain - comcast.net X-Antiabuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-Antiabuse: Sender Address Domain - pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote: Spent five days trying to subscribe. My msgs would come back to me, but wouldn't show in the archives nor would appear to other list members. All the sudden, worked. Used to be that subscribing to PDML was easy, but it was ~impossible~ to unsubscribe. We used to joke that once subscribed one was a member for life - like it or not. My, how times have changed! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 1/28/09, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote: Spent five days trying to subscribe. My msgs would come back to me, but wouldn't show in the archives nor would appear to other list members. All the sudden, worked. Used to be that subscribing to PDML was easy, but it was ~impossible~ to unsubscribe. We used to joke that once subscribed one was a member for life - like it or not. My, how times have changed! We've become exclusive. -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 10:01 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote: Spent five days trying to subscribe. My msgs would come back to me, but wouldn't show in the archives nor would appear to other list members. All the sudden, worked. Used to be that subscribing to PDML was easy, but it was ~impossible~ to unsubscribe. We used to joke that once subscribed one was a member for life - like it or not. That was no joke. Dave My, how times have changed! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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-Original Message- From: Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com Sent: Jan 28, 2009 10:11 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: list problems On 1/28/09, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote: Spent five days trying to subscribe. My msgs would come back to me, but wouldn't show in the archives nor would appear to other list members. All the sudden, worked. Used to be that subscribing to PDML was easy, but it was ~impossible~ to unsubscribe. We used to joke that once subscribed one was a member for life - like it or not. My, how times have changed! We've become exclusive. I tried to sign up a temproary account when my dedicated PDML account was unavailable. I don't know if the temporary account is even recieving pdml mail yet! That was about a month ago. It was a g-mail account so it doesn't matter really... -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Peter Alling webste...@mindspring.com wrote: snipIt was a g-mail account so it doesn't matter really... Ive got 99 invitations to g-mail. Let me know if you want one... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 11/5/06, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm a glass half full kind of guy. Well stop drinking that muck you call whiskey. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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On 5/11/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If my friends can't abuse me, then who can? You could always abuse yourself... g -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
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Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: The only way to know what order the posts were made in with this list at present is to switch to digest mode and read the digests. Or use a mail client like Thunderbird and browse the list in threaded mode. That's what I do. S
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- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: worst day yet for list problems There's always self abuse ;-)) I hear it can be very gratifying. I'm married. Those issues are dealt with on a daily basis. William Robb
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- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: worst day yet for list problems I'm a glass half full kind of guy. Well stop drinking that muck you call whiskey. Thats whisky you heathen sasanack. William Robb
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On 12/5/06, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: Thats whisky you heathen sasanack. D'oh! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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On 11/5/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm using Gmail I'm not receiving some messages. Mark! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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Have you got somthing against Gmail Cotty? vbg Dave S On 5/11/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/5/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm using Gmail I'm not receiving some messages. Mark! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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I seem to get most messages, but the timing is very odd. It has been like that for some time now. And I am frustrated by this. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11. mai 2006 04:03 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: worst day yet for list problems The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall.
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Quoting Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I seem to get most messages, but the timing is very odd. It has been like that for some time now. And I am frustrated by this. TeleNor has quite good routing agreements with the operators of the American backbones. NextGenTel, which is my provider, has not. :-( Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
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Quoting Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall. Join the club, Paul! :-) The number of list oddities has indeed been on the sharp rise lately. I expect that spam is part of the problem, but I think it's not the only problem. From here, the routing seems to have changed lately. When pinging the list server with NeoTrace!, the signal used to go this way: Norway - Amsterdam - New York - Baltimore Baltimore is as far as NeoTrace! can follow it. Now, however, it takes a more complicated route: Norway - Amsterdam - New York - Southwark (London, UK) - Washington DC - Baltimore The cumulative response time (latency) is effectively doubled by this, which could affect email transmission. Especially in high-traffic periods. Routing is in general determined by routing agreements between different ISPs and their network operators, which could contribute to explain why the problem is different from ISP to ISP. Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
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Apologies for eventual duplicates... Quoting Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall. Join the club, Paul! :-) The number of list oddities has indeed been on the sharp rise lately. I expect that spam is part of the problem, but I think it's not the only problem. From here, the routing seems to have changed lately. When pinging the list server with NeoTrace!, the signal used to go this way: Norway - Amsterdam - New York - Baltimore Baltimore is as far as NeoTrace! can follow it. Now, however, it takes a more complicated route: Norway - Amsterdam - New York - Southwark (London, UK) - Washington DC - Baltimore The cumulative response time (latency) is effectively doubled by this, which could affect email transmission. Especially in high-traffic periods. Routing is in general determined by routing agreements between different ISPs and their network operators, which could contribute to explain why the problem is different from ISP to ISP. Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. - End forwarded message - This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
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Jostein wrote: Apologies for eventual duplicates... Yep, got them both. :-) S
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I'm Comcast, also, and having the same erratic sluggish experience with the list. All other folders appear to be handling mail normally. Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm on comcast. I'm getting all my normal mail. But my outgoing and incoming list messages are disappearing. I would imagine many other people on the list are comcast. Paul On May 10, 2006, at 11:25 PM, William Robb wrote: Other than the occassional out of sequence thread, I don't seem to be having any problems with recieving messages. You might want to query your ISP regarding where in their chain the messages are getting dropped. William Robb - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: worst day yet for list problems The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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On 11/5/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: Have you got somthing against Gmail Cotty? Not at all. Please, go ahead and offer me a couple of dozen :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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Doug Franklin wrote: William Robb wrote: Other than the occassional out of sequence thread, I don't seem to be having any problems with recieving messages. You might want to query your ISP regarding where in their chain the messages are getting dropped. Yep. Everything seems fine here in Atlanta. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) Since Sunday (and this is now THursday in my part of the world) the number of posts in my inbox for PDML numbers only 351. I probably wouldn't bother writing this but don't want anyone to think I'm ignoring their replies to something - I only saw one post of mine come back into my PDML folder... and 351 is roughly 1/4 of the number of posts I was used to seeing. I skim anyway, but if my me too is at all useful in solving the glitch for any reason, thought I'd pipe up. annsan
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Jostein wrote: The cumulative response time (latency) is effectively doubled by this, which could affect email transmission. Especially in high-traffic periods. Routing is in general determined by routing agreements between different ISPs and their network operators, which could contribute to explain why the problem is different from ISP to ISP. Jostein Jostein, In short: unless the latency time is several (many!) seconds (as opposed to tens or hundreds milliseconds) mail traffic will not be affected. If the latency is a few seconds occasionally you can see messages arriving out of order. If you can reliably browse american websites, e-mail traffic will not be affected by the latency time. In a bit more detail: 1. Packet routing is a dynamic process. Besides, it might not be (and very often it is not) symmetric, i.e. packets going from you to another computer could be following a different route from those coming back. 2. If the latency is high, but steady (i.e. doesn't fluctuate wildly), this should not cause TCP packets being lost 3. SMTP protocol implementation is such that if transmission is not successful, it will be retried until completed successfully or until the delay due to retries exceeds some preset time (usual default - 5 days). 4. SMTP protocol (high level protocol used for transmitting e-mails) uses so-called TCP connection (low-level packet transmission protocol), which is capable of retransmitting dropped packets (TCP packets) and reassembling them in the right order if they came out of order due to mildly fluctuating latency. 5. Traceroute that you are using to check packet routing has different implementations and could use different packets (in most cases those are so-called ICMP packets). Depending on the implementation of the router, these packets can have much-much lower priority then the TCP packets, or sometimes could be completely blocked by some ISPs. So, while usually one can get a rather adequate picture using traceroute, in some weird cases, such a picture could be irrelevant to the real situation. I've seen such cases. As far as I can tell, the response time from your ISP to the US does not exceed 200-300 ms which is rather standard for transatlantic connection. Igor
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On 5/11/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/5/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: Have you got somthing against Gmail Cotty? Not at all. Please, go ahead and offer me a couple of dozen :-) Ahhh. You can't trick me. :-) Dave
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I think whoever is managing this list needs to wake up and do something about it! geez Norm From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall.
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The only way to know what order the posts were made in with this list at present is to switch to digest mode and read the digests. Godfrey
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That also seems to be the only way I can see your posts. The last few days I've seen nothing directly from you on the list, only in the digest. Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi The only way to know what order the posts were made in with this list at present is to switch to digest mode and read the digests.
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Same here for a lot of people's posts. Mind you, this is not a bad way to go. On one or two lists I've participated in, *all* the conversation happened in response to messages from a digest. It gives people time to think before responding and not just react out of hand. I'm not suggesting that this is what Doug should do, BTW, but it does generally reduce bandwidth and produce more thoughtful communications, in my experience. Godfrey On May 11, 2006, at 8:49 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: That also seems to be the only way I can see your posts. The last few days I've seen nothing directly from you on the list, only in the digest. Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi The only way to know what order the posts were made in with this list at present is to switch to digest mode and read the digests.
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On this list the digest has consistently produced posts containing the whole digest as a quote. If I wanted to read a digest I would subscribe to the digest, but I would not post messages to the list from it. Also unless the digest has changed it is hard to follow threads in it. Doug has said he is changing things, both the list software and the ISP. That will take a while to set up, I guess. I can certainly put up with this for a week or two. I do find it funny that so much legitimate email goes off into limbo, but the spam seems to have no problems getting here. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Same here for a lot of people's posts. Mind you, this is not a bad way to go. On one or two lists I've participated in, *all* the conversation happened in response to messages from a digest. It gives people time to think before responding and not just react out of hand. I'm not suggesting that this is what Doug should do, BTW, but it does generally reduce bandwidth and produce more thoughtful communications, in my experience. Godfrey On May 11, 2006, at 8:49 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: That also seems to be the only way I can see your posts. The last few days I've seen nothing directly from you on the list, only in the digest. Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi The only way to know what order the posts were made in with this list at present is to switch to digest mode and read the digests. --No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/335 - Release Date: 5/9/2006
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What spam has made it to the list? Shel [Original Message] From: graywolf I do find it funny that so much legitimate email goes off into limbo, but the spam seems to have no problems getting here.
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From: Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jostein wrote: Apologies for eventual duplicates... Yep, got them both. :-) LOL. I got both your replies, but only the second of my own attempts. The trickle of posts has been quite stable today, but evidently not complete yet. Jostein
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On May 11, 2006, at 9:58 AM, graywolf wrote: On this list the digest has consistently produced posts containing the whole digest as a quote. If I wanted to read a digest I would subscribe to the digest, but I would not post messages to the list from it. Also unless the digest has changed it is hard to follow threads in it. The proper way to reply to a post read from the digest is to: a) hit reply, delete the digest copy quotation that is usually auto- entered b) copy into the reply only the relevant material you want to quote c) replace the subject of the message with re: original thread subject d) add your response e) send to the list address It requires more than just hitting the reply button. I get both (two accounts subscribed) and respond from either, depending upon whether the post I want to respond to has made it to me individually or not. I often check the digest to see if other responses have already been made to a given post. Godfrey
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I'd tell you, your an evil man, but I think you know that... Cotty wrote: On 11/5/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: Have you got somthing against Gmail Cotty? Not at all. Please, go ahead and offer me a couple of dozen :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
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Sez you! Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Same here for a lot of people's posts. Mind you, this is not a bad way to go. On one or two lists I've participated in, *all* the conversation happened in response to messages from a digest. It gives people time to think before responding and not just react out of hand. I'm not suggesting that this is what Doug should do, BTW, but it does generally reduce bandwidth and produce more thoughtful communications, in my experience. Godfrey On May 11, 2006, at 8:49 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: That also seems to be the only way I can see your posts. The last few days I've seen nothing directly from you on the list, only in the digest. Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi The only way to know what order the posts were made in with this list at present is to switch to digest mode and read the digests. -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
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I think whoever is managing this list needs to wake up and do something about it! geez Norm From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall.
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Doug is fixing it. But I'm sure that requires a lot of work. We just have to be patient. I wasn't complaining. Just pointing out the slowdown. It's been MUCH better today, at least at my station. Paul -- Original message -- From: Norman Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think whoever is managing this list needs to wake up and do something about it! geez Norm From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall.
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Go back to sleep, Norm. Doug has already posted is intended improvements. It probably will be all fixed by next week. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Norman Baugher wrote: I think whoever is managing this list needs to wake up and do something about it! geez Norm From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall.
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On 11/5/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Doug is fixing it. But I'm sure that requires a lot of work. We just have to be patient. I wasn't complaining. Just pointing out the slowdown. It's been MUCH better today, at least at my station. Paul Paul, Norm's sarcasm literally drips off him. I don't think the man has ever said anything in his life that wasn't tainted with humor. You will meet him, it's only a matter of time. Speaking of which, I'm wearing a black armband the week beginning May 29th. And you know what? because my hours at work have piled up in a certain way, my roster queen has given me an extra day off on Monday June 6th. Like, rub some more salt in the wound baby. However, I have a cunning plan for a limited appearance..nyuk nyuk nyuk Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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It's just so inconsiderate of him. Norm From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Go back to sleep, Norm. Doug has already posted is intended improvements. It probably will be all fixed by next week. Norman Baugher wrote: I think whoever is managing this list needs to wake up and do something about it! geez Norm From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall.
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Cotty wrote: Paul, Norm's sarcasm literally drips off him. I don't think the man has ever said anything in his life that wasn't tainted with humor. You will meet him, it's only a matter of time. Oh my god, is Norm coming to GFM again? Run away! Speaking of which, I'm wearing a black armband the week beginning May 29th. And you know what? because my hours at work have piled up in a certain way, my roster queen has given me an extra day off on Monday June 6th. Like, rub some more salt in the wound baby. However, I have a cunning plan for a limited appearance..nyuk nyuk nyuk Ok... *now* run away!
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I just downloaded today, first since last night I have 125 messages to review! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: worst day yet for list problems The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall.
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Darn Global Warming! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: worst day yet for list problems Damn sunspots :-) I'm using Gmail I'm not receiving some messages. So I don't think it's necessarily an ISP problem. Dave S. On 5/11/06, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, not here in Boone. In fact the other mail list I am on is bogged down too. Maybe a note to charter.net is in order. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Doug Franklin wrote: William Robb wrote: Other than the occassional out of sequence thread, I don't seem to be having any problems with recieving messages. You might want to query your ISP regarding where in their chain the messages are getting dropped. Yep. Everything seems fine here in Atlanta.
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Ironic that all the posts about list problems seem to be getting through to me though!!! :-) Tom C. From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: worst day yet for list problems Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 16:39:54 -0400 I just downloaded today, first since last night I have 125 messages to review! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: worst day yet for list problems The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall.
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On 5/11/06, Norman Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's just so inconsiderate of him. Hey, Normie, You gonna fly in for a few hours of GFM? I need someone to bum smokes from... LOL cheers, frank ps: BTW, where the hell does Cotty get off with this sarcasm dripping off him stuff, eh? -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
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On 11/5/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Oh my god, is Norm coming to GFM again? Run away! Actually I have a soft spot for Norm. It's a peat bog in Yorkshire. Speaking of which, I'm wearing a black armband the week beginning May 29th. And you know what? because my hours at work have piled up in a certain way, my roster queen has given me an extra day off on Monday June 6th. Like, rub some more salt in the wound baby. However, I have a cunning plan for a limited appearance..nyuk nyuk nyuk Ok... *now* run away! Hey, mock not yodler. I have a little role for you... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: worst day yet for list problems Ironic that all the posts about list problems seem to be getting through to me though!!! :-) Irony. My mom never figured out the irony in calling me a bastard. For that matter, my dad didn't figure out the irony in calling me a son of a bitch. I don't know if this says more about them or me... WW
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The fix must be on. By far the best day for some time. I'm even getting through and receiving responses. Doug may be allowed to get some sleep soon. LOL Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug is fixing it. But I'm sure that requires a lot of work. We just have to be patient. I wasn't complaining. Just pointing out the slowdown. It's been MUCH better today, at least at my station. Paul -- Original message -- From: Norman Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think whoever is managing this list needs to wake up and do something about it! geez Norm From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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On 11/5/06, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: ps: BTW, where the hell does Cotty get off with this sarcasm dripping off him stuff, eh? You're only envious!!! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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Cotty wrote: Hey, mock not yodler. I have a little role for you... Yodler??? Have you heard my latest? http://www.robertstech.com/files/gfm.mp3
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Irony. My mom never figured out the irony in calling me a bastard. For that matter, my dad didn't figure out the irony in calling me a son of a bitch. I don't know if this says more about them or me... WW Maybe both were true? :-) I guess this means we can call you just about anything we want, eh? Tom C.
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Nice Mark, very nice. Norm note lack of sarcasm From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cotty wrote: Hey, mock not yodler. I have a little role for you... Yodler??? Have you heard my latest? http://www.robertstech.com/files/gfm.mp3
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I'll be there Saturday afternoonand yes, that is a threat. insert evil laugh here Norm From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh my god, is Norm coming to GFM again? Run away!
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However, I have a cunning plan for a limited appearance..nyuk nyuk nyuk Cheers, Cotty You're going to beam a movie of youself into the sky so that it reflects off the moon rising over the mountain, and make speech, like a Hollywood actor at the BAFTAs: Gee, I'm sorry I can't be with y'all fer this award tonight, but I have to reorganise my sock drawer. Bob
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On 11/5/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Yodler??? Have you heard my latest? http://www.robertstech.com/files/gfm.mp3 Sort of Marillion meets Camelot. And there *is* a bit of wailing in the middle there and at the end ;-) Very nice, I like it. I'm sure you sent me a CD containing that piece a while back. I think it would work well in a cheese-making documentary ;-))) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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On 11/5/06, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: You're going to beam a movie of youself into the sky so that it reflects off the moon rising over the mountain, and make speech, like a Hollywood actor at the BAFTAs: Gee, I'm sorry I can't be with y'all fer this award tonight, but I have to reorganise my sock drawer. That's an insane thought, totally libellous. You think I'm organised enough to keep my socks in a drawer?? Actually I have magical socks. I swear to God, I take them off at night, leave them in a pile and Holy Moses there they are a couple of days later all folded neat and tidy. I must remember to ask my wife where she got such amazing socks from. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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Cotty wrote: On 11/5/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Yodler??? Have you heard my latest? http://www.robertstech.com/files/gfm.mp3 Sort of Marillion meets Camelot. And there *is* a bit of wailing in the middle there and at the end ;-) Very nice, I like it. I'm sure you sent me a CD containing that piece a while back. Nope, not that one. I only wrote it three weeks ago! I think it would work well in a cheese-making documentary ;-))) Well you know what they say: Blessed are the cheesemakers.
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Not mine. No wait, I didn't hit send... Tom C wrote: Ironic that all the posts about list problems seem to be getting through to me though!!! :-) Tom C. From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: worst day yet for list problems Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 16:39:54 -0400 I just downloaded today, first since last night I have 125 messages to review! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: worst day yet for list problems The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall. -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
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Norman Baugher wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cotty wrote: Hey, mock not yodler. I have a little role for you... Yodler??? Have you heard my latest? http://www.robertstech.com/files/gfm.mp3 Nice Mark, very nice. Norm note lack of sarcasm No sarcasm? All right, what have you done with the real Norm Baugher?
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- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: worst day yet for list problems I guess this means we can call you just about anything we want, eh? If my friends can't abuse me, then who can? William Robb
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You have friends William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: worst day yet for list problems I guess this means we can call you just about anything we want, eh? If my friends can't abuse me, then who can? William Robb -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
